WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:04.080 As the recording of this podcast. TikTok is supposed to 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:06.799 be banned this Sunday, the nineteenth. 3 00:00:06.879 --> 00:00:08.839 Yeah, I mean I have. 4 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:10.560 A few thoughts about it, And I guess the first 5 00:00:10.560 --> 00:00:15.640 thing I'll say is I have a conspiracy theory, meaning 6 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:21.000 I think, well, this is just a theory, no facts 7 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:25.760 on this. But you know how the Supreme Court those 8 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:30.719 are aren't those majority like Trump's people. Yeah, so they're 9 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.799 gonna make it sound like they're gonna ban it, and 10 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:37.320 then there's gonna be an extension, a delay, and then 11 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.600 when Trump is officially in office, which that's happening in 12 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.960 a few days, like he's gonna save it. Yeah, and 13 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:48.320 then TikTok is saved. 14 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.399 So yeah, I mean, well, did you hear about the 15 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:54.759 CEO of TikTok's supposed to be inauguration. I just saw 16 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:57.600 that today, which was interesting, and I know that he's 17 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:01.320 been wanting it to be uh the band put on pause. 18 00:01:02.920 --> 00:01:07.760 But away from away from the conspiracy theorist, what's your 19 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:12.719 thoughts on just the decision of even banning an app? 20 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:14.719 Well, did you see that a lot of people are 21 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:17.400 going to these other Chinese apps? 22 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:17.840 Yeah? 23 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.079 Or China based ap red notes. 24 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:24.599 Essentially prove a point of like, yo, these apps are 25 00:01:24.599 --> 00:01:26.040 owned by China too, Like what are you going to do? 26 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:26.519 Band ease? 27 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:33.840 I understand the sentiments, the thought process of oh, you 28 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:38.480 know this, they're they're spying on our info. Any app, 29 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:45.280 any smart hacker can probably make that happen with anything. 30 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.400 So what do you think is the real reason then, 31 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:50.000 or do you think that is their reasoning? 32 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:53.040 That's the part that confuses me because you're gonna hurt 33 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:57.879 a lot of businesses, a lot of youngsters that are 34 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.840 becoming famous out of this from this app, and they're 35 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.920 making their money this way. Like I said, small businesses. 36 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:11.800 I've bought many things on TikTok. I've been on the 37 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:17.319 TikTok shop. So it's gonna affect small businesses, people that 38 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:19.520 were people that were influencers. 39 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.039 Yeah, like that's their job is to be on TikTok. 40 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:25.560 Now, yes, there's other apps, but as we know, the 41 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.280 world works when things are hot. When the iron is 42 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:31.120 hot in TikTok is the hot thing right now, So 43 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:35.719 will people recover and find something else more than likely. 44 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:40.919 But I'm just saying for right now, it's just the 45 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.120 way I see it. I don't see a threat. And 46 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:45.800 obviously I'm not in the government. I'm not in the 47 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:50.479 you know, in uh. I was gonna say, like the. 48 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.120 Not the Pentagon, but you're not in government. 49 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:58.400 Just you know, it's just an entertaining app and it 50 00:02:58.599 --> 00:02:59.719 for me just feels like. 51 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:03.599 Really yeah, and if they when they have done something 52 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:05.639 already by now, I mean TikTok's been around for a 53 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:09.319 few years now, so I don't know, like it's already 54 00:03:09.319 --> 00:03:12.919 out there. There's oh, you know, millions of people on it. 55 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:17.240 I don't really understand. Now, what is your gut feeling. 56 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:20.800 Do you believe it's actually gonna go away on Sunday? 57 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:21.120 No? 58 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:21.840 Really? 59 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.520 Yeah, you think he's gonna be delayed. 60 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:26.319 Okay, it'll be delayed and then and then they'll eventually 61 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:29.039 just be around still. Or do you think do you 62 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.159 think someone will buy it because they're pretty adamant about 63 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:34.599 not selling, or do you feel like there's just this 64 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.800 who's gonna budge first? And you know there's almost like 65 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.840 this this game is being played between both sides, like 66 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:42.599 are you gonna buy? 67 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:43.919 Are you gonna well, I. 68 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.400 Be surprised if he gets band. No, I just don't 69 00:03:46.400 --> 00:03:49.840 think it will because this is just my how I 70 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.199 see things. It's not that serious. 71 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.159 Yeah. 72 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:59.719 So yeah, TikTok is a learning tool for me. How 73 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.719 many recipes I've learned on there. I've been learning how 74 00:04:02.759 --> 00:04:07.639 to play golf from TikTok videos, So i'd yeah, it suck. 75 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:10.680 It would suck if it disappeared. I use it as 76 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:16.160 entertainment and a learning tool. So I just I don't 77 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:20.279 understand just why that app I know it's you know, 78 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:24.079 the owner of it, Chinese government, but it's been around. 79 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.879 It's kind of like what you just said, like they 80 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.240 would have gotten. And also the information I have on 81 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:34.560 there is nothing that there's nothing super personal on there. 82 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:39.279 I mean we always say too like let's say, let's 83 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.879 just say something happens and I'm not thinking of anything major. 84 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.040 I'm thinking of something minor, and they go like, see, 85 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.480 well then you deal with it at that moment. You've 86 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:51.040 been having TikTok for years. 87 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:52.240 And nothing crazy has happened. 88 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:54.480 Yeah. Man, So I don't think it's going to disappear. 89 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:56.000 That's how Wait real quick, how about you? 90 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:57.800 I don't think it is either I think something's gonna 91 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.439 either like delay it or they'll put a stop. But 92 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.319 come this Sunday when it's supposed to allegedly go black 93 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.519 in the United States. I don't think so, but I 94 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:14.639 guess we'll find out in a few days. 95 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:17.600 This could give me for our podcast What Up on Jizzo? 96 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:20.759 That is John Magic and we are back now. 97 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:26.879 The title it's happy twenty years to Young Jizzo's radio career. 98 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:31.120 But I would be remiss if I didn't mention because 99 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:34.000 it does kind of have to go along with this podcast. 100 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:38.680 The recording of this podcast is on Eliah's birthday. And 101 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:42.079 I'm not gonna make this long winded story long at all. 102 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:46.240 Just keep it short. My first week in radio ever. 103 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.879 Just imagine a young twenty something year old on Power 104 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:56.399 one oh six in la first week, never been on 105 00:05:56.439 --> 00:05:59.759 the radio ever, and your boss calls you and says, 106 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:01.319 Leah passed away and. 107 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:03.920 Like you have to make the announcement. 108 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:06.720 Wow. I was so confused, Like how do I do 109 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:07.319 this without? 110 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:09.199 I don't think you ever told me that story. 111 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:10.959 Yeah, I was. I had to announce it. 112 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:12.360 Do you remember what shift it was? 113 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.240 It was the weekend shift. It was in the afternoon. 114 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.120 It was like during the mix, and I remember my 115 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.079 bosses like get some alias songs ready, put it into 116 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:22.600 the Scott's system. 117 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.079 We had the Scott touch screen. 118 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.839 Yeah, that's I mean, obviously this was twenty plus years ago, 119 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:32.959 and I was the one that had to say it 120 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.519 on the radio. And to this day, I have friends 121 00:06:35.959 --> 00:06:39.959 on Alia's either Alia's birthday or Aliyah's death anniversary, they'll 122 00:06:40.040 --> 00:06:42.120 like text me and say, hey, I was listening to 123 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:45.079 you that day. I have friends that still text me 124 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:47.959 and remember that moment that I had to announce it. 125 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:50.680 Do you remember what you said or how you said 126 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:51.120 it or no. 127 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.120 I just I remember just staying calm. I didn't want 128 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:57.240 to make it this big speech because I didn't know 129 00:06:57.279 --> 00:06:59.920 how to present it. I've never been on the radio. 130 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:01.319 Before, and you got to present something like that. 131 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.040 It's pretty serious, yes, So I just remember just keeping 132 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.680 it short and then letting them like playing her music. 133 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:09.079 Yeah yeah, And then the calls just came in and 134 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:10.920 I didn't even know how to handle that. I wish 135 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:14.120 I knew what I knew now, and I would have 136 00:07:14.199 --> 00:07:18.040 made it a better presentation. Probably over the radio air 137 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.720 some calls calls, but I was so new to radio. 138 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:24.879 But just imagine a rookie you getting called like, hey, 139 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:25.879 you have to announce this. 140 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:28.759 Yeah, it's tough. I mean, I mean I've done it 141 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.480 numerous times over the years. When someone passes away, you 142 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:33.800 sort of, you know, mention it on the radio. But 143 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:36.399 I mean at that time, though, like your first, I 144 00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:37.879 would have been kind of nervous too. 145 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:39.000 How do I say this? 146 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:41.199 I don't want to come off like I don't care. 147 00:07:41.319 --> 00:07:43.079 I don't want to, you know, say something that sounds 148 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:44.240 out of pocket. 149 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:46.800 Everything that you just said is what was going through 150 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.000 my But I bring that up my first weekend radio 151 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.879 because we got to congratulate you and give you your 152 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:57.879 flowers for making it to twenty years in the radio business. 153 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:58.240 Yeah. 154 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.079 Man, this month marks my twenty And it's crazy because 155 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:03.079 when I tell people that, they're like, damn, so, how 156 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.199 old are you? But I'll say this, I've basically been 157 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.000 in radio since right after high school, so that's why 158 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:11.639 it seems crazy. And people still say that I still 159 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:15.399 look young, so I'll take it. But yeah, man, twenty years. 160 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.120 Yeah, I mean, you're gonna have to remind me the 161 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.839 beginnings of it, because I don't even remember making you 162 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:23.560 my intern. 163 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:24.000 Yeah. 164 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.160 I don't remember these things, and I'm sure you these 165 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.079 are like core memories for you. 166 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:32.600 Yeah, I got the the internship over the radio because 167 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:36.159 back when we set have interns and I think every semester. 168 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:38.720 It was an announcement for the fall in the spring 169 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.600 that the radio station was looking for interns, and so 170 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.159 I had applied. My dad had actually told me about it. 171 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:47.279 He had heard it on the radio. And I was 172 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:50.679 a full time student in college but I didn't have 173 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:52.720 a job, so I thought this could be cool radio. 174 00:08:52.879 --> 00:08:54.879 By the way, radio was nothing that I ever thought 175 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:58.200 I would be in, especially you know, I'm the introvert. 176 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:00.919 I was the quiet kid. But I thought, you know, 177 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.519 I like hip hop and music, and I thought it 178 00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:07.039 could be fun to be an on air person like that. 179 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.600 And I just remember I applied for it and I 180 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:14.080 went to my interview. You were actually sitting in the interview, 181 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:15.200 do you remember, I don't. 182 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:17.120 I know we've brought this story up before, but I don't. 183 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:19.240 Okay, Yeah, So it was the PD at the time, 184 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.600 you and then the afternoon guy at the time, and 185 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.480 I just remember getting interviewed, and of course we've talked 186 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:29.200 about this before, but we're just not good interviewers new 187 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:32.519 or is it interviewees interviewers okay or. 188 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.080 I don't know. I'm not good when someone's interviewing me. 189 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:36.200 I just I don't know. 190 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:39.519 I know we've did a whole podcast about this, but 191 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:41.759 I was probably quiet. My answers were probably just like 192 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.600 one and done, and then I just left. And I 193 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:46.399 remember I got the call from the PD at the 194 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:48.679 time and he even said, like, your interview was horrible, 195 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:51.279 like you didn't say anything, but I just I just 196 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:52.320 see something in you. 197 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.440 Who knows if that was real. I was about to say, no, 198 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:58.919 that could be there's some truth in that, because there's 199 00:09:58.960 --> 00:10:01.039 a piece of me that trying to remember. I think 200 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:04.360 we wanted to just hire everyone, Yeah, but at that 201 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:07.720 time I think no, I think g wanted was selective. 202 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.440 Yeah, because obviously the more, the more, the more you get, 203 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.399 the more help you get. Right, So it could have 204 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:15.440 just been one of those situations where maybe he really 205 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.000 did see something in me, because obviously twenty years later, 206 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:21.480 I'm still here. So I remember getting that call back 207 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:25.519 and coming here to do my internship. And where where 208 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:27.840 did you start? Like what was your my first things? 209 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:30.679 My first thing was to learn the board. That was 210 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:31.919 the first thing that you learned? 211 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:34.679 Was it through me? Because usually I remember I was 212 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:36.559 the one teaching a lot of the interns. 213 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.440 Uh No, it was actually because the way my schedule was, 214 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.159 I had like that noontime open, so I learned during 215 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.120 the noon mix. So at the time there was a 216 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:49.759 mix during noon. And Josh Butters shouts to Josh Butters, 217 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:51.360 he was an intern, he used to work here as 218 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:55.159 a good friend of mine. He showed me the board 219 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:57.519 because he was running the board. 220 00:10:57.600 --> 00:10:57.679 Ye. 221 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.000 By the way, if you don't know what the board is, 222 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:01.840 it's like all the switches on the board. 223 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:02.240 I don't know. 224 00:11:02.360 --> 00:11:04.919 Yeah, when you look when the classic you look in at. 225 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:07.000 Your radio station, you see the board. Yeah, so you 226 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:10.200 have to learn that first. So I learned that, and 227 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.240 I was a super quick learner. Just that's kind of 228 00:11:13.240 --> 00:11:18.840 my personality. And I remember you you were doing the 229 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:21.480 night show at the time, and you just needed an 230 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.159 extra board op for whatever reason, maybe because who you 231 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:26.720 had at the time it was just they would they would, 232 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.799 their schedule was maybe hit or miss, and you kind 233 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:31.960 of needed someone who had learned the boards already to 234 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:33.879 do your nine o'clock mix at night. 235 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.720 Up because so I would during my show, I would 236 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:41.120 be doing the show on my own, meaning running the board. 237 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:44.279 But at nine o'clock, I would mix, and at this 238 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:45.320 time we mixed live. 239 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:47.480 Yeah, and you can't really mix and run the board 240 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:48.039 at the same time. 241 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:51.559 Yeah, I mean it's not impossible, but it's just so 242 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:53.600 much better when you have someone running the board while 243 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:54.159 you're mixing. 244 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:54.440 Yeah. 245 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:56.320 So I don't know if somebody told you that I 246 00:11:56.519 --> 00:11:59.200 was good or give me a shot or something, I 247 00:11:59.240 --> 00:11:59.879 do remember this. 248 00:12:01.240 --> 00:12:03.720 So at that time I was trying to create something 249 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:07.720 on my show where if some interns are gonna be here, 250 00:12:08.279 --> 00:12:09.919 like I want them to be part of my show. 251 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:11.960 And it's something that I was kind of used to 252 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:16.080 being doing a radio in LA I remember just seeing 253 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.960 I like the energy of a lot of people in there, so. 254 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:20.399 I know, sounds like a party. 255 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:22.519 I know I wanted to put together a team, but 256 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.360 I didn't say that to anyone, but in my head, 257 00:12:24.399 --> 00:12:26.919 I'm like, I need to find some interns. And I 258 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.240 was very selective because I wanted to pick people that 259 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:31.759 kind of fit the night show. So if you were 260 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.360 like someone just calm and you know, not energetic, I 261 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.279 probably wouldn't pick you. And also it had to fit 262 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:42.039 the time slot, meaning like were you available at that time, 263 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:44.519 So that's sort of like how I was kind of 264 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:48.679 looking for interns. But the one big thing that why 265 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:51.799 I remember wanting you as part of my show is 266 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:55.399 because of your fashion. Like I had the look. Can 267 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:59.080 you describe because it's almost an inside joke with the 268 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:01.159 homies of how you used to dress. 269 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:04.240 Well, let me just say this was during the era 270 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.519 at that time. Yeah, so it was like the big 271 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.320 white tees. It was like the baggy clothes. It was 272 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.960 the you know, the fitted hats, fitted it has the 273 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.639 baggy clothes. I had that. I had that whole get up, 274 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.200 you know what I mean. I even had the airbrush 275 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:19.960 shirt like everything. I had, that whole get up. It 276 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:21.879 was during that time. And in my head, like as 277 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.080 you say, you're like, oh, he kind of fits that fit, 278 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:25.600 like you know, it's. 279 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:29.200 Hip it's a hip hop station. Yeah. So and then 280 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.679 I think that, I mean, obviously there you might have 281 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:35.240 to like kind of fill me in on some highlights 282 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:37.960 on that. But I do remember you knew how to 283 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.399 run my show. Yeah, yeah, you knew how to run 284 00:13:40.440 --> 00:13:44.759 the board to the point. So it's so weird how 285 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:46.320 how we do radio today. 286 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:47.399 Yeah, it's a lot different. 287 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.919 It's because you could record a show, you could do 288 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:54.320 a show remotely from somewhere else, and that's I do 289 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:56.799 it from home, that's and that's okay, yeah yeah. But 290 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:02.480 so you have to remember twenty years ago, this technology 291 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:04.399 didn't exist. 292 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:07.799 You had to be super hands on, super active, pay 293 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:11.960 attention like everything had to run like manually essentially, and 294 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:13.679 so you had to be on top of things. 295 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:17.320 And at this time I was super busy as a 296 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:22.679 touring DJ. I was DJing man, I was djaying Thursday 297 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:23.399 through Sunday. 298 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:25.519 Was this during the hot important nights. 299 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:29.799 Everything hot important nights clubs with Joe. My off days 300 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:33.440 would just be Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then Thursday through Sunday. 301 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:37.240 I would be out of town exactly. 302 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:41.679 Trap flying out of airports and during this time, you 303 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:45.639 know rpds. Actually, it's just the way our business was. 304 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:49.240 You couldn't just leave. You had to ask for vacation 305 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:50.639 time and so forth. 306 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.679 You couldn't just record and dip. You technically could at 307 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:55.879 the time, but it just what they didn't want you to. 308 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:58.960 Well. Also, if you recorded, like you said, you needed 309 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:01.799 someone there though, to make sure it all ran right, 310 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:04.759 all ran correctly, Because we didn't have the technology of 311 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:07.600 the timing and all that stuff. Yeah, it does it automatically. 312 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:12.559 So as the months went on of me understanding, like, man, 313 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:16.120 Jesse understands my show. Yeah, I would just record on 314 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.720 the vox Pro radio. People will know what the vox 315 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:21.399 Pro is, but it's just a machine where you could 316 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:22.720 record your talk breaks. 317 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:24.320 Yeah, and you see the waves in there, yep. 318 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.720 And then you would need a board ope you to 319 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.240 play it back and make it sound like I was there, 320 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.000 and I would sneak out. Yeah. 321 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:34.600 Man, I can't believe you did that. And what made 322 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:39.519 it even crazier is you did it when even like 323 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.919 I wasn't even supposed to be here because it was 324 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:45.200 during summertime and they didn't have interns in summer. But 325 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:47.279 I remember it used to hit me and you'd be like, yo, 326 00:15:47.360 --> 00:15:50.679 you want to run my show while I leave? So 327 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:52.360 you're not supposed to be leaving and I'm not even 328 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:53.080 supposed to be here. 329 00:15:53.159 --> 00:15:57.759 Can you believe that? I mean, it's not illegal, but 330 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:00.320 I'm just saying the words of like a work envin, 331 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:02.840 I was doing some illegal ship like. 332 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:04.799 I'm out that could have got you in trouble. 333 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:09.360 And isn't there a story where we almost got caught 334 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:11.519 like a the PD called. 335 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:14.159 I don't remember, but I do remember you saying like, 336 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:17.559 if anybody calls, Yeah, we had like we had like 337 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:20.679 I stepped out or something. And then I think I 338 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:23.000 just said a like the PD called and then you 339 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:24.919 may have called him and it was like, oh, I 340 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:26.799 just stepped out for something like that. 341 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:28.399 I don't remember it was, That's what it was. 342 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:32.159 I was halfway to lay and then I was like, oh, hey, 343 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:35.679 Gizo said that you called. And then he said something 344 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:37.679 and I think I was like, oh, yeah, I'm just 345 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:40.279 down the street. I'm on my way back, but I 346 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:41.960 was already near La. 347 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:42.720 I mean that. 348 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:44.559 I mean at the time, if you think about it, 349 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:46.200 you really had to put a lot of trust in 350 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:48.720 me to make sure that your show did ran good, 351 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:51.679 because that could have been a disaster over air. Not 352 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.799 to mention it would have got back to the PD. 353 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:56.399 You would have gotten in trouble. I probably would have 354 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:59.279 gotten not allowed in this building anymore. Yeah, I mean 355 00:16:59.279 --> 00:16:59.960 I was scared. 356 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.799 So I do have to say I never I never 357 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.519 got caught, never got in trouble. Yeah, no one ever knew. 358 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:08.039 And usually the times I needed you is when I 359 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:11.000 would have a gig in La. So hence me having 360 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:13.400 So my show at the time was seven to midnight. Yeah. Yeah, 361 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:15.640 so that's if you guys are wondering, like, why don't 362 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:17.079 you just do your show and then leave? No, Like 363 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:20.880 I needed to be four hours away for a gig 364 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:22.640 and I can't leave at seven. 365 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:23.640 Yeah, basically you were. 366 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.680 You were at your gig in La or whatever at 367 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.240 the club and your show was still going on. Like 368 00:17:29.240 --> 00:17:30.240 that's how crazy it was. 369 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:34.400 But the cool thing was, you know when you're when 370 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:37.039 you're driving and it's before Bakersfield and my show's playing, 371 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.480 I could see, I could listen to it, and you 372 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:42.759 always ran my show like it sounded like I was there. 373 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.039 And this was even before iHeart radio, so you had 374 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:49.160 to like listen on the in your car. But that 375 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:51.359 was fun times. Of course, you know, at that time, 376 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:53.559 you're young and hungry, not that I'm not anymore, but 377 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:56.160 at that time you're willing to do whatever. Like I 378 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:57.319 wasn't even paid or anything. 379 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.680 It's rare to find people like that because I was. 380 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:04.359 I mean, you know, I was like that. I'm not 381 00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:06.799 trying to like put the lot on me, but it's 382 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:10.079 just a comparison to your work ethic. Is how I 383 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:15.400 was when I was an intern at KGGI nineteen ninety six, 384 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.839 but that's even before that. But yet that's a good point. 385 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:23.200 But bobbysoto dot com was my first mentor DJ where 386 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:25.400 I would have to pick up his lunch, you know, 387 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:29.960 grab my laundry or you know at the dry cleaners. 388 00:18:30.279 --> 00:18:34.279 I did all that and in my head, I didn't 389 00:18:34.319 --> 00:18:37.680 care that I wasn't getting paid. Yeah, those are like 390 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:41.160 rare people to find, and sometimes those are the stories 391 00:18:41.200 --> 00:18:45.759 of the people that became successful. Are people that do that. 392 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:47.960 And to bring up the point that you said, when 393 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:50.680 I was working at Power we had the big at 394 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:54.480 the time, the biggest festivals show before it was called festivals, 395 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:56.640 but it was when all the artists would performance called 396 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.079 the Powerhouse the radio yeah, the radio stations concert. I 397 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.880 had like twenty artists performed on twenty of the biggest artists. 398 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.359 It was called Powerhouse. I was at Power Want six 399 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.839 for two years total. I did not go to one Powerhouse. 400 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.480 Why it's because at the time, same thing there was 401 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:15.000