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Speaker 3: It's a great loved bab Hi, Get everyone, It's Brian Howie.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the Great Love Debate, the world's number one
Speaker 3: dating air relationship podcast since twenty fifteen. I am back
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Speaker 3: for the People. I am the one in Boca Raton, Florida,
Speaker 3: and it is lovely. Somebody said to me once again,
Speaker 3: you don't enough guys on your podcast. You don't have
Speaker 3: men on your podcasts. And I'm always like, I want
Speaker 3: somebody who has a perspective that is more interesting than mine,
Speaker 3: that is deeper than mine, that has done more work
Speaker 3: than mine.
Speaker 1: So I was handed a book.
Speaker 3: About two weeks ago and I was like, Wow, I
Speaker 3: need to really dive into this. Is there any chance
Speaker 3: I can get the author?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: I got the author.
Speaker 3: He wrote, Partners in Passion positively transform all your relationships
Speaker 3: with the power of a high vibration energy, which sounds
Speaker 3: very technical, but I think there's very practical in.
Speaker 1: There because I've read the book. David Francis, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm good. Thanks, Brian, good to see you.
Speaker 1: That accent's not from South Florida. Where are you from?
Speaker 2: I am originally from England And.
Speaker 1: What brought you over here to the colonies? As are
Speaker 1: still the colonies.
Speaker 2: I went to Canada and founded a school, and then
Speaker 2: I came down to New York and now Florida.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: It seems to be going sound once you hit.
Speaker 3: New York, you always end up in Florida is where
Speaker 3: all of us Sex New Yorkers go. You're all about
Speaker 3: the energy and you believe that fundamentally we are not
Speaker 3: just wired a certain way, but there are things that
Speaker 3: attract us to each other. How did you get interested
Speaker 3: in that? And when did you first discover that?
Speaker 2: Absolutely right back college days, going to an esotic school
Speaker 2: in London and learning how to see and feel energy.
Speaker 2: So I learned how to see energy from my hands,
Speaker 2: how to see the aura around people. I like to
Speaker 2: call it the atmosphere around people. And that admit to
Speaker 2: the idea of what passion actually is, like partners in Passion.
Speaker 2: There reason it's that name is it's to do with
Speaker 2: any word that ends in ion is an energy word.
Speaker 2: Congratulate ion, pass ion, hesitate, ion, because an ion. You
Speaker 2: look it up in the dictionary. It's a positively or
Speaker 2: negatively charged particle. So two people having a passion means
Speaker 2: they're passing lots of energy backwards and forwards between them. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: if there's not much energy, there's not much passion, that unlikely.
Speaker 2: The guy says, why should we meet again? It's like,
Speaker 2: maybe not because there is not much passion exactly. Passion.
Speaker 2: Passion is fundamental. So and the initial passion I call
Speaker 2: it passion automatic almost like there's three gradations to relationships.
Speaker 2: They look at partners in passion. That's the beginning. And
Speaker 2: so two people can be attracted to each other. Then
Speaker 2: they develop a purpose between themselves. If they do, I
Speaker 2: call that the mutually agreed purpose or a map. And
Speaker 2: then if they're into the spiritual realm, they become partners
Speaker 2: in evolution. That's another step. Again, it's just like three
Speaker 2: levels to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So early on, so chemistry is a real thing.
Speaker 3: Early on when you feel sort of that that moment,
Speaker 3: that magic, and it continues and it continues, but early
Speaker 3: on it's like it it finds its level into what
Speaker 3: I needs. But early on it's it's it's mostly physical
Speaker 3: it's a little nervous, it's a lot of curiosity, it's
Speaker 3: somewhat rooted in hope. It's probably got a layer of fear.
Speaker 3: All of those kind of things are ions within our
Speaker 3: our bodies, minds and souls.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot of the ions in the move
Speaker 2: and I look at it also that in the initial relationship,
Speaker 2: it's kind of a testing process. If it's only skin deep,
Speaker 2: that's twenty eight days. Skin deep goes with the sightle
Speaker 2: of the moon. So every twenty eight days we actually
Speaker 2: lose our skin cells. So we do we do. It's
Speaker 2: on the back of a toothpaste tube like, oh okay,
Speaker 2: but it's the case sorry of skin creadth. But every
Speaker 2: twenty eight days, our skin cells get sloughed off like
Speaker 2: a snake, like a snake. Thankfully, if it happened all
Speaker 2: at once.
Speaker 1: Okay, then it'll be kind of a mess.
Speaker 2: That would be a problem. Yes, we're saying I'm not
Speaker 2: coming out tonight now, I'm staying there right, Yeah, but no,
Speaker 2: it's it's happening all the time. When you're going around
Speaker 2: the place with the vacuum where it's saying where does
Speaker 2: all the dust come from?
Speaker 1: It comes from us.
Speaker 2: It comes from us.
Speaker 1: We're blaming the dog and the atmosphere.
Speaker 2: When vacuum up ourselves. So the twenty eight days relationship
Speaker 2: skin deep. That goes with the lunar cycle. Twenty eight days,
Speaker 2: twenty eight seasons, that's the seven year itch, that's the
Speaker 2: planetary cycle. It's like the man looks at the woman says, well,
Speaker 2: you're not the woman I'm married, or you're not the
Speaker 2: man I'm married. It's true. All the cells have been changed,
Speaker 2: right except for the cells in the brain.
Speaker 3: Is there a time in the lunar cycle that we
Speaker 3: are more likely to attract and mate and all that?
Speaker 1: Do we look for full moons like where.
Speaker 2: We tend to get more, we tend to get more lonely. Actually,
Speaker 2: at the full moon, people tend to get a little
Speaker 2: bit more wanting to find out, find some kind of
Speaker 2: extra stimulation, some kind of entertainment. And that is to
Speaker 2: do with the lunar influence. So you know what astrology
Speaker 2: and astronomy I look at the as twin sciences. If
Speaker 2: you want to disprove astrology, you have to disprove the
Speaker 2: pull of the moon, because that's astrological. You want to
Speaker 2: disprove astrology then you have to disprove the getting a suntan.
Speaker 2: That's astrology as you're going out and get the influence
Speaker 2: of the sun. Just the influence of Mars and Venus.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a quote a famous book.
Speaker 1: We've had them on the podcast.
Speaker 2: Those influences are a bit more subtle. So one of
Speaker 2: them is more red, more to do with iron. One
Speaker 2: is more to do with acid, that's the red the Mars.
Speaker 2: The other is more copper, or to do with venus,
Speaker 2: more to do with the nurturing aspect. So the real powers,
Speaker 2: the red and the blue. You could look at it
Speaker 2: like the acid and the alkali.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So these two things, they have an innate attraction to
Speaker 2: each other. And so that's built in to our human systems.
Speaker 3: Because you are aware of this and you study this
Speaker 3: order every encounter, conversation, new interaction. Are you always thinking
Speaker 3: about it? Are you always aware of it? Are you
Speaker 3: trying to read another person or how you feel?
Speaker 2: Always aware of the energetic aspect?
Speaker 1: You are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like right now there's an energy exchange.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: What we're doing is we're finding we're finding a third power.
Speaker 2: I think of that love is a third power. Okay,
Speaker 2: So the man doesn't fall in love with the woman
Speaker 2: or the woman with the man.
Speaker 1: They conversation has an ion, Yes.
Speaker 2: Exactly can they fall in love with what happens between them?
Speaker 2: So that's the third power. So I think love is
Speaker 2: the third force. If you think of the man like
Speaker 2: the number one, right, the woman like the number two. Well,
Speaker 2: there's a third power that actually is the glue that
Speaker 2: holds them together. And if the glue isn't strong, they
Speaker 2: come apart.
Speaker 3: They So I always tell people that before you can
Speaker 3: find love, you have to define it for yourself what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: You know what you're looking for, you know what you feel.
Speaker 1: Do you have a definition of what love is?
Speaker 2: Oh, it would go through a seven seven stages.
Speaker 1: Actually, which I'm sure is in the book.
Speaker 2: Seven Phases of Love. The first level would be that
Speaker 2: level of ionic attraction between two people. They haven't even
Speaker 2: spoken to each other, and what actually happens is their
Speaker 2: energy fields interact. That's why you can go into like
Speaker 2: one hundred people in a room. And the way I
Speaker 2: think of it, everybody's on a certain color, like it
Speaker 2: said all blue, but you're say red, and you're standing
Speaker 2: in the corner another red person walks in and somehow
Speaker 2: the eyes meet, energy flashes across the room, like I
Speaker 2: have to talk to that person because there are on
Speaker 2: the same frequency. So the first level of love is
Speaker 2: attraction because of being on the same frequency, and that
Speaker 2: would be the first thing, and then it moves on
Speaker 2: from there and moves into love being much more something,
Speaker 2: which is the agreed mutual purpose that two people share.
Speaker 2: So this would kind of move through the move through
Speaker 2: the seven levels. The most the mostation, io, yes it does.
Speaker 2: The most basic attraction is your sort of physical attraction.
Speaker 2: You almost say, it's the animalistic attraction between male and female.
Speaker 2: That's your fundamental male female attraction. But that doesn't last.
Speaker 2: People will sing songs about it. I love you forever
Speaker 2: and forever, but it's over after a year. Why because
Speaker 2: it's only short term. It's like that lunar thing.
Speaker 1: It has to be something more substantive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that, and that even works at our cellular level.
Speaker 2: Because if the love is only skin deep and it's
Speaker 2: all based on the way the other person looks, well,
Speaker 2: the face in the mirror is not going to look
Speaker 2: the same after thirty.
Speaker 1: Years, no, if not, and your eyes might not see
Speaker 1: them the same way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, emotional filters that can change the way people look
Speaker 3: or how the way you feel about how they look.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: Are there things people can do? Say you go out
Speaker 3: you brought up being in a room with one hundred
Speaker 3: people to enhance your energy or in your ability to
Speaker 3: pick up on other people who see who is able
Speaker 3: to be engaged with you know? Or is it just
Speaker 3: it won't happen until you connect.
Speaker 2: It happens when you connect. But the first thing is
Speaker 2: being comfortable in your own skin, being authentic. Like if
Speaker 2: you're putting on a show, the other person's going to
Speaker 2: see the show and that they need to meet the
Speaker 2: face behind the face. So it's actually been.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people aren't comfortable with the face
Speaker 3: behind the face, or they're not even sure what the
Speaker 3: face is behind the face because they're always putting on
Speaker 3: a show.
Speaker 1: A lot of people know how to hide.
Speaker 2: And those relationships don't tend to last. Or you end
Speaker 2: up with two people both putting on a show for
Speaker 2: each other, and they may have a third interest that
Speaker 2: keeps together. That's like economics, so called power couple. They'll
Speaker 2: keep together for an energy vibration that's not particularly fine vibration,
Speaker 2: so This is where we get to early there's seven
Speaker 2: different levels of vibration, and so when there's the lower vibration,
Speaker 2: you can have two people. You can have a couple
Speaker 2: together for crime, and that will be agreed purpose. But
Speaker 2: it's a very low body and Clyde very low.
Speaker 3: But are they together because of the the rush.
Speaker 1: The stimulate, the gain of the crime.
Speaker 3: The crime is just sort of the vehicle, but they
Speaker 3: want that adrenaline of the keeper.
Speaker 2: Something gotten together in the first place, right then they
Speaker 2: find that's their common denominator. You get two people together
Speaker 2: for political purpose and they find that's their common denominator.
Speaker 2: So this is kind of again climbing the levels. You
Speaker 2: get two professors together. They're together because they've got an
Speaker 2: intellectual common denominator. But when you get into the higher levels,
Speaker 2: you actually get to people who are able to be
Speaker 2: natural with each other and producing more. I call it
Speaker 2: evolutionary energy. Spirituals the word these mostly use these spiritual relationship.
Speaker 2: It goes beyond soulmates. We get the odia of soulmates.
Speaker 2: It's more to being spiritual kin. They're akin to each
Speaker 2: other rather than soulmates. Soulmates is a kind of lower
Speaker 2: turn doesn't last. Virtual kin that can last right the
Speaker 2: way through the life, spiritual kin, right the long lasting relationship.
Speaker 1: This is fascinating. I have a million questions. I'm sure
Speaker 1: my audience do. It does too. I take a quick
Speaker 1: break so we.
Speaker 3: Can let our sponsors have some positive vibration here. I'm
Speaker 3: with David Francis. We will be back right after this,
Speaker 3: and we are back. Is there a way to change
Speaker 3: your frequency or vibration to turn it up? Turn it
Speaker 3: down for somebody who's introverted extroverted? Is that tie into
Speaker 3: what you're putting out into the world.
Speaker 2: Yes. And what that comes to is, again, it's that
Speaker 2: dynamic of being authentic, being the author of yourself. So
Speaker 2: that's where that authentic, that word connects to being your
Speaker 2: own author, making your own portrait. So that's to do
Speaker 2: with the dynamic of human development, personal development, personal growth.
Speaker 2: So if you want to attract new people in your
Speaker 2: life of a higher vibration, you need to lift your
Speaker 2: own level of vibration to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: That's where I wrote a book on relationships. But the
Speaker 2: other book I wrote it's called Go with the Glow,
Speaker 2: and that is about enhancing the level of vibration of yourself,
Speaker 2: and that's the first thing to do. It's like, how
Speaker 2: does a bird attract a mate sings its own song
Speaker 2: if it's not singing its own song. If you get
Speaker 2: a blackbird pretending to be a chaffinch, right, it ain't
Speaker 2: going to attract nothing.
Speaker 3: So the bird thing is some time has a level
Speaker 3: of confidence and self awareness.
Speaker 1: That is attractive to something else.
Speaker 3: So so many people and a lot of our audience
Speaker 3: is at best wounded, at worse severely damaged by past
Speaker 3: relationships that didn't work at hour, how do they shed
Speaker 3: that bit of skin and put that positive energy out
Speaker 3: so other people be attracted to it, so you're not
Speaker 3: always leading with the fear or the pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a key, key dynamic. That's the idea of woundology.
Speaker 2: It's been called to people attracted and it's a valid thing.
Speaker 2: Two people share the same wounds and they come together.
Speaker 2: Usually that relationship lasts for as long as it takes
Speaker 2: and to work through the wounds, and that's the reason.
Speaker 1: So if one works it through quicker, that's the waiting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they can work through the wounds and get
Speaker 3: to a positively healing place. If there's an understanding of
Speaker 3: you have childhood trauma, you have pain from your divorce
Speaker 3: or whatever, and you know, let's.
Speaker 1: Get through this together.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of people, you know, in
Speaker 3: the relationship space are always like you need to be
Speaker 3: a complete person before you can attract somebody else. There's
Speaker 3: no such thing as a complete person. I mean, we're all,
Speaker 3: you know, bodies in motion.
Speaker 2: We're all working progress.
Speaker 1: We're all working progress.
Speaker 3: You know, somebody said, what would you if you had
Speaker 3: to write an autobography, what's the title of your book?
Speaker 1: Work in progress? I agree, and you want that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So two people are coming together and they're prepared
Speaker 2: and they're working. They have work in progress together. That's
Speaker 2: the key to a long lasting, successful relationship, right, rather
Speaker 2: than going, well, I love you as you are, don't change. Well,
Speaker 2: that's that's really not a good basis for relationship because
Speaker 2: you want to be working together.
Speaker 1: You're on a journey with them exactly. You have to
Speaker 1: give them space.
Speaker 3: You also have to give them boundaries and there's ways
Speaker 3: that you kind of go towards something together, which is
Speaker 3: hopefully you know, a lifetime of happiness. Where do you
Speaker 3: stand if somebody said, there says to the phrase opposites attract.
Speaker 2: But that is also true.
Speaker 1: Oh, that is also true.
Speaker 2: And why both are true? If someone as an example,
Speaker 2: there's the idea of being attracted to someone on the
Speaker 2: other side of the tracks, that old idea, right, So
Speaker 2: if someone has been suppressing something in their energy field
Speaker 2: and they've been pushing it down, then it ends up
Speaker 2: being like a ball of energy in their field that
Speaker 2: will attract something else that's like itself. So it will
Speaker 2: actually attract something which is opposite to what other people
Speaker 2: might even expect. So it is the case opposite is attract.
Speaker 2: And also things which are I call it same same
Speaker 2: with each other, they attract, so both can be true.
Speaker 2: The ones that tend to last are actually the ones
Speaker 2: that there's a shared purpose. So they're looking together into
Speaker 2: a third I call it a third power. So and
Speaker 2: it can be the most common one in relationships that
Speaker 2: lasts for twenty eight years plus. It is children. So
Speaker 2: the glue that holds the relationship together is the fact
Speaker 2: that they're both focused in on the child, right, which also.
Speaker 3: Is that's a different kind of a relationship, though there's
Speaker 3: a coul parenting in a way, and a lot of
Speaker 3: times the parents stay together because of the children and
Speaker 3: a lot of the you know, the chemistry, vibration, whatever
Speaker 3: you want to talk about is.
Speaker 1: Either gone or different.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's different.
Speaker 1: You go from husband, wife to mom and dad. It's
Speaker 1: different energy.
Speaker 2: You go from silver, which is like the engagement ring
Speaker 2: is silver, the wedding ring is gold. Okay, silver is
Speaker 2: the new fresh. Wow, this is amazing, this is just starting.
Speaker 2: We start with a silver spoon in our mouth and
Speaker 2: we end up with our golden years. So we go
Speaker 2: from something which is more electric, electrifying, to something which
Speaker 2: is you can say, more magnetic. So we go from
Speaker 2: the silver at the beginning of the rainbow, silver flash
Speaker 2: at the beginning. We go through our spectrum journey of life,
Speaker 2: and then we end up in the with the pot
Speaker 2: of gold. And so marriage is more moving into the
Speaker 2: Over time, you still want to keep the silver alive.
Speaker 2: It's got more and more a magnetic hold to it.
Speaker 2: So after twenty eight years or so, it can be
Speaker 2: that the children leave, the parents look at each other
Speaker 2: and kind of go, we're not really into each other anymore, right,
Speaker 2: and it comes apart, And there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: It's simply the natural cycle. They've moved in different directions.
Speaker 2: Beautiful word, because being indifferent to somebody moving in different directions,
Speaker 2: that's actually more how I see relationships divorce than a
Speaker 2: big bouts of anger and all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: When two people become indifferent to each other, that's much
Speaker 2: more telling in terms of the relationship. Is it's kind,
Speaker 2: it's cooling. Put it that way, a.
Speaker 1: Very expensive English degree. I've learned more in the last
Speaker 1: half hour here than I ever have. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about that that way.
Speaker 3: What are are there things somebody can do if they're
Speaker 3: if they're not feeling at their best, or if they're
Speaker 3: skeptical or fearful of getting out there and getting a relationship,
Speaker 3: that can can change their energy to put it back
Speaker 3: out there. Obviously, you know you want to always try
Speaker 3: and be your best self, but that might take a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 2: Let's let's give a practical example. Happened And when I
Speaker 2: had a client in New York and he wanted to
Speaker 2: be in a relationship in a single man for a
Speaker 2: long time. And I visited him in his house and
Speaker 2: I pointed out, I looked around the place, everything in
Speaker 2: the place was there was a single person on the
Speaker 2: in the artwork, there was a singular bird, little statue
Speaker 2: on everything was single.
Speaker 1: So I said, well, look, party of one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first thing is change the take call. Put put
Speaker 2: things that have got too man and a woman, man
Speaker 2: and a woman. And within actually a few months, he
Speaker 2: was in a relationship. It made a difference because he
Speaker 2: was changing what was on the outside, right, So then
Speaker 2: changed what was on the inside, right. I mean telling
Speaker 2: someone just change yourself, that's a pretty hard thing to
Speaker 2: do because they've got to go straight within. But changed
Speaker 2: the environment, changed the environment, and that sends a new
Speaker 2: message back to the inside. So he started to.
Speaker 1: Put a pair of pads things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything was passed.
Speaker 3: And so either subliminally or even overtly, people pick up
Speaker 3: on that, like, oh, this is a this is a.
Speaker 1: House of two.
Speaker 2: He changed his energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people are very used to to
Speaker 1: being a one.
Speaker 3: And uh I remember years ago my girlfriend, she'd been
Speaker 3: single a long time, and we started dating, and we
Speaker 3: were at some event and somebody was like calling, as
Speaker 3: is anybody here alone or and her her instinct was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm that person. I'm like, we've been dating for years here.
Speaker 3: But it was just the way she was wired as
Speaker 3: a as a one and you have to shift over
Speaker 3: into being a two. And a lot of ways you
Speaker 3: can do that is sort of put your put it
Speaker 3: out there to the universe that there's a possibility of
Speaker 3: coupling in here.
Speaker 2: Agreed. So especially in the West, like in the East,
Speaker 2: they kind of say go within and change, But in
Speaker 2: the West we're very designed to change things on the
Speaker 2: outside and then that causes change on the inside. So
Speaker 2: what I recommend, mostly in dealing with Western people is
Speaker 2: start by changing things externally and you'll change it internally
Speaker 2: because which in reality, it starts within because you decided
Speaker 2: to change your day core and you are starting on
Speaker 2: the inside, then you're projecting it, then it comes back
Speaker 2: into you and you're starting the process of making the change.
Speaker 1: How long have you been in America or at least Canada.
Speaker 2: In North America? Thirty seven years?
Speaker 3: Thirty seven years, so maybe another best person to ask
Speaker 3: this question because I don't know how old you are.
Speaker 3: Is there a difference between the way the Brits engage
Speaker 3: or getting relationships and Americans?
Speaker 2: Yes, there is, Okay, the Brits tend to be more reserved.
Speaker 1: So that's not a stereotype, No, it's not. It's why
Speaker 1: his stoically stiff upper the.
Speaker 2: Stiff upper lip, which is why alcohol is so preferred
Speaker 2: in British party because what does alcohol do breaks down
Speaker 2: the filters inhibit ion those words and inhibit ion means
Speaker 2: that you're kind of holding your energies back, reserved and preserved.
Speaker 2: So then the alcohol is used to break that down.
Speaker 2: Now better still is get to the point in development
Speaker 2: where you don't need to use like an external aid.
Speaker 2: But great, so there is more reservation. But when you
Speaker 2: actually then when that reserves another I am then both
Speaker 2: are very much we're humans, we're human beings. But the
Speaker 2: the outer the outer coating is more crusty in English.
Speaker 1: So you can say, you'd say that it won't be offensive.
Speaker 1: So that is a true thing.
Speaker 3: The upper crust, it's the upper crust, is that it
Speaker 3: is you brought up you know the Far East. Don't
Speaker 3: know how much you've traveled over there. It's just a
Speaker 3: different energetic vibe. When you go to any of the
Speaker 3: major Asian cities, there's this sort of cacophony of sound
Speaker 3: and saits and smell and everything that really change.
Speaker 1: You feel a different energy around you.
Speaker 3: You're almost like a bubble floating in a waterfall that
Speaker 3: it feels differently than a lot of their places in
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 2: Well, I would say to that that culture. Culture is
Speaker 2: the outer coating like inside of us, right down at
Speaker 2: the level of the spirit and the soul. We're all
Speaker 2: fundamentally human, we have the same basic wiring. Then you
Speaker 2: grow up in a particular culture, and that then coats
Speaker 2: it in a different way. Learn a different language, got
Speaker 2: a different frequency from the ground, different religion. All of
Speaker 2: these things then flavor the basic human proposition. But when
Speaker 2: you really get down to it, every human has a spirit,
Speaker 2: has a soul, has an energy field, and are wired
Speaker 2: into masculine feminine energy in different ways.
Speaker 3: And we are wired to be with another. We are
Speaker 3: wired to pair up. We are wired that way, right,
Speaker 3: It is the way we are fundamentally. If you are
Speaker 3: not that way, you are sort of fighting against your
Speaker 3: own nature.
Speaker 2: It's built in it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because a lot of people now they're like,
Speaker 3: you know, and I get this, I'd rather be alone,
Speaker 3: you know. They look at the possibility of a good
Speaker 3: relationship is very remote, and they're very It's a lot
Speaker 3: of ways to entertain yourself as stimulate yourself well by
Speaker 3: yourself now, but you.
Speaker 1: Are fighting against the nature of your wiring. Right.
Speaker 2: Yes, what I'd say is the psycho logical is overwhelming
Speaker 2: the biological.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm very interested in that idea of logic
Speaker 2: because I'd like to say to clients, well, let's be
Speaker 2: less psycho and more logical, right, because you know, if
Speaker 2: the psyche is governing the logic, then you're only as
Speaker 2: good as the psyche. So part of the journey of
Speaker 2: development is to get more and wired into the real world.
Speaker 2: It's the big danger of idea logical. If the idea
Speaker 2: is no good, then the logic is going to be
Speaker 2: really bad. I mean it's tested against reality, it falls apart.
Speaker 2: So some I might have their ideal person that they
Speaker 2: think they're going to be with reality might be quite different.
Speaker 2: Is what's the reality of what it is that they're
Speaker 2: actually they're actually wired for, and then how do they
Speaker 2: match that? And the less authentic a person is, the
Speaker 2: more trouble they've got finding it because their psychology is
Speaker 2: overcoming the logic of reality.
Speaker 3: Well, and you mentioned the logic a lot of this.
Speaker 3: If on first glance it's very spiritual and woo whatever,
Speaker 3: but the.
Speaker 1: Way you break it down. Oh, that's why it really
Speaker 1: does make sense.
Speaker 3: It really just sort of these are the building blocks
Speaker 3: of who we are and what we want to get.
Speaker 2: Yes, which then isn't it isn't wou woo. The only
Speaker 2: way it can appear woo woo.
Speaker 1: Is because it's the unfamiliar.
Speaker 2: And our psyche has been so moved away from reality
Speaker 2: that we then we then look at we look at
Speaker 2: things through a lens, which is just not a real lens.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: So you break up the moon and the stars and
Speaker 3: people are like, oh, that's really out there on another planet.
Speaker 1: But we're on another planet.
Speaker 2: We're on a planet.
Speaker 1: We're on a planet.
Speaker 2: And if you don't know, if you don't accept the
Speaker 2: influence of the sun, uh huh, well then you're not
Speaker 2: going to go with you know, you're not going to
Speaker 2: go and get a tan in the sun. You're not
Speaker 2: going to the seaside.
Speaker 3: Or don't move to Florida if you don't understand the
Speaker 3: power of the sun or the attraction of it, or
Speaker 3: a sunset or a sunrise or a star filled sky
Speaker 3: like those all have a primal effect on our core being.
Speaker 2: And what a full moon does, Like we just come
Speaker 2: through a King tide. Why is it a king tide?
Speaker 2: Why is it a certain time of year? Why is
Speaker 2: it's known that kind of the equinox is a major
Speaker 2: pull of the moon. Well, if the moon is a
Speaker 2: powerful enough magnet to pull the entire Atlantic and Pacific Ocean,
Speaker 2: you think it doesn't have an effect on the human
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 1: So do you pay attention? Do you always know what
Speaker 1: the moon's going to be?
Speaker 2: I keep I pay attention to it. But even in
Speaker 2: the old days, the German farmers, they would go and
Speaker 2: cut the cabbages for this souur kraut a full moon.
Speaker 2: Why wasn't some kind of hocus post focused things, because
Speaker 2: the moon will pull the sap the cabbage up, so
Speaker 2: they get a juicy a cabbage at full moon than
Speaker 2: they would if they did it at quarter moon. The
Speaker 2: same thing with the druids cut in the missiletoe. It's
Speaker 2: like it's it's fundamental science that has been known about
Speaker 2: for thousands of years, but only in the last couple
Speaker 2: of hundred we lost it.
Speaker 3: So you know, we've lost away a lot of things.
Speaker 3: But you know, you come with the great love to
Speaker 3: bit you get sour kraut. Patch Pulling facts and figures.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff in this book. I could
Speaker 3: sider all day and say, lay it all out. I
Speaker 3: want people to get it. Tell people where they can
Speaker 3: find you, where they can read this and all the
Speaker 3: other stuff.
Speaker 2: They can go to Amazon and it's Partners in Passion
Speaker 2: and it is by David Price Francis. They can go
Speaker 2: to my website which is called Energyworlds dot com. So
Speaker 2: just go to Energyworlds dot com can purchase the copy there.
Speaker 2: And there's also the other book I wrote called Go
Speaker 2: with the Glow, which is about how to overcome the
Speaker 2: major obstacles to personal growth and development. Like pinpointed nine
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Speaker 2: all of which get in the way of affective dating
Speaker 2: because if you're fragmented and overwhelmed, it's pretty hard to
Speaker 2: have a sound platform for a relationship. So personal growth
Speaker 2: goes then with finding the appropriate other. So both these
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Speaker 1: This was great, This is fascinating.
Speaker 3: I always say our job here at the Great Love
Speaker 3: Debate is to raise questions and hope to find answers.
Speaker 3: I think we found some answers, and I think you
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