WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:11.560 Good evening, everybody, and welcome to another edition of The 2 00:00:11.560 --> 00:00:14.400 Cajun Night Live. I am your host, Jacob Mook the 3 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:18.879 Cajun Night and uh boy, oh boy, what a world 4 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:21.239 we are living in. I know we say that a lot, 5 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:24.800 oh these wild times and this and this, but you know, honestly, 6 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:27.399 the wild times have a bit of a calmness to 7 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.280 them if you are of a certain mindset. Right, yes, 8 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:32.880 there's a lot of chaos going on. But if you 9 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:35.200 and I'm not even saying politically aligning yourself, but if 10 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:39.320 you at least have your mindset aligned to you know, logic, 11 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:44.159 sound reasoning, a little bit of some critical thinking, then 12 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:46.439 you actually can see this chaos and realize that this 13 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:50.600 is the storm before the calm, in the weird flip 14 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.119 reverse of things. I'm gonna go ahead and share the 15 00:00:53.119 --> 00:00:56.159 screen at this time, and I wanted to jump into 16 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.520 a couple of different geopolitical things that are going on, 17 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:01.280 and if any he has anything that they would like 18 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:03.119 to open for him discuss here, drop it in the 19 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:04.680 chat and we will get to it here in just 20 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.879 a moment. But I feel like these things might take 21 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.079 a little bit of precedence to it, so as we 22 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:13.879 see here. There's a couple of BBC articles that I 23 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:17.319 have to read on this evening. Jd Vance attacks Europe 24 00:01:17.400 --> 00:01:22.640 over free speech and migration. Now, at first, when I 25 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:25.359 read that title, I'm thinking, bro jd Vance is kind 26 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:29.680 of I know that he's going around and doing this 27 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:32.519 thing right now with his tour of speeches and things, 28 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:36.359 but I don't see the man as a. 29 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.480 Aggressive type, you know what I mean. He's not a. 30 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:41.319 Trump by any means, but I do think he's a 31 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:44.280 solid guy. I know some people kind of threw shade 32 00:01:44.280 --> 00:01:47.040 on him because of his investors and how he comes 33 00:01:47.040 --> 00:01:50.280 from Silicon Valley and these things, but honestly, I like 34 00:01:50.359 --> 00:01:52.319 to look at the man for you know, what he 35 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:55.120 has done where he has been, and I do like 36 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:59.280 the book that he wrote and his rise into the 37 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.799 political realm and for the reasons that he rose there. 38 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:05.200 I actually liked the man. Not gonna lie, Yeah, he's 39 00:02:05.480 --> 00:02:07.519 The liberal media went on just saying that he was 40 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.560 weird a lot, like a lot. 41 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:11.680 That seemed to be like their one buzzword for him 42 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:12.599 for quite a little bit. 43 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:15.240 But then I'm hearing that he's over in Europe and 44 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:18.639 he is, you know, talking that noise towards Europe's free 45 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:21.680 speech and immigration, so I thought it was worth looking 46 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:25.879 into here. Let's read in US Vice President JD. Vance 47 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:29.599 has launched a scalding attack on European democracies, saying the 48 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.719 greatest threat facing the continent was not from Russia and 49 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:37.280 China but quote unquote from within Uh. For the record, 50 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.680 I find no lies detected here at this moment, but 51 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:44.120 let's keep going. It had been expected that Vance would 52 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.039 use his speech at the Munich Security Conference to address 53 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:49.560 possible talks to end the war in Ukraine. Of course 54 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:51.840 they were hoping that that would be the conversation, but 55 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:56.680 instead he's spent the majority accusing European governments, including the UKs, 56 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.719 of retreating from their values and ignoring voter concerns. On 57 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:04.400 mygration and free speech. Yeah again, I gotta say, no 58 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:06.560 liaes detected. I'm not some sort of a master of 59 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:09.759 geopolitics by any means, but we do in fact know 60 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:12.800 that politicians do not care about their voters or what 61 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.199 their constituents actually want. Like that's been a rinse and 62 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:20.360 repeat en mass and as he's in Munich, and you 63 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:23.039 look at what Merkele did with the immigration policies to 64 00:03:23.080 --> 00:03:23.680 that country. 65 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:26.319 I feel like he was absolutely just. 66 00:03:26.719 --> 00:03:28.240 Hitting and where it hurt, you know what I mean. 67 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:32.000 The address was met by silence in the hall and 68 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.759 later denounced by several politicians at the conference. Defense Minister 69 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:40.240 Boris Pistorius said. 70 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:41.680 It was not acceptable. 71 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.319 German defense minister is going to talk some shit about 72 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:48.400 the immigration policy of Germany. I think that's kind of ironic, 73 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:52.639 but we'll continue. Vance repeated the Trump administration's line that 74 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.439 Europe must quote step up in a big way to 75 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.560 provide for its own defense end quote. Again, no laws 76 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:03.159 detected here, and I don't know in particular if Germany 77 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:07.159 has actually met their GDP requirements to be a part 78 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:08.879 of NATO or not, but I do know that there 79 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:11.800 is a large number of European countries that have not 80 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:16.439 given their mandatory three percent in a good while. You know. 81 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.240 I know Germany's military is kind of coming up in 82 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:21.240 that regard. I know they've got a couple of badass 83 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:25.720 tanks that they just released, and they've restructured. 84 00:04:25.079 --> 00:04:26.639 In a more efficient way. 85 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.600 I don't know if it's necessarily in a big financial way, 86 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:33.319 but from what I have heard recently, especially with their 87 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.680 weapons platforms, that they've designed and everything. Germany's military is 88 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:38.879 not one to just turn the nose up to anymore. 89 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:42.439 They have definitely come up in that regard. But either way, 90 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:47.360 the Ukraine War was mentioned, with Van saying he hoped 91 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:51.720 a reasonable settlement could be reached after the US President 92 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:54.279 Donald Trump's surprise announcement earlier this week that he and 93 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:56.079 Russias Vladimir Putin had. 94 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:57.759 Agreed to begin peace talks. 95 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.800 Now, I know that there's some people that got mad 96 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:03.800 at Trump for trying to make a deal happen to 97 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.160 make peace talks go down, But let's keep in mind 98 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:09.240 this is a man who literally altered the book the 99 00:05:09.399 --> 00:05:12.160 art of the deal, you know. But yeah, I guess 100 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:15.279 people get mad at a zebra for having stripes or whatever. 101 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:20.199 But Vance's address otherwise focused on culture, war issues and 102 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.639 key themes of Trump's campaign for the US presidency, a 103 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:27.000 departure from the usual security and defense discussions at the 104 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:32.639 annual conference. He alleged the European Union commissars were suppressing 105 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:35.920 free speech, blame the continent for mass migration, and accuse 106 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:39.519 its leaders of retreating from some of its most fundamental values. 107 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:43.480 The EU's foreign policy chief, Kaja Collis. I hope I'm. 108 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:44.120 Pronouncing that right. 109 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.959 Characterize Vance as trying to pick a fight with Europe, 110 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:50.959 home to some of US's closest allies. 111 00:05:51.920 --> 00:05:53.160 I thought that that was funny. 112 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.000 If the US wanted to pick a war with Europe, 113 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:58.000 we would just do that if we were trying to 114 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.600 pick a fight. I think this was more or less 115 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.199 him trying to light a fire under the asses of 116 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:08.240 the political elites of Europe. But I digress. Michael McFall, 117 00:06:08.279 --> 00:06:11.439 former US Ambassador to Russia, told Politico Vance's remarks were 118 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:16.040 insulting and just empirically not true. Keep in mind, Vance 119 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:20.560 said nothing negative towards Russia, but the former US ambassador 120 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:23.199 to Russia spoke up and said that this was insulting. 121 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:25.319 I found that to be interesting, but let's go on. 122 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.120 Vance used his twenty minute speech to single out several 123 00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:31.360 European nations, including the UK. 124 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:34.480 About that life, I'm good with him. He raised a 125 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:35.519 legal case. 126 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:39.040 In which an Army veteran who was silently praying outside 127 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:43.199 an abortion clinic was convicted of breaching a one hundred 128 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.319 and fifty meters safe zone around the center. 129 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.079 For the record, there are people that have come out 130 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:50.240 and said, oh, that's not true. 131 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.000 That's not what happened, even though there's videos of the 132 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:55.000 incident and that's exactly what happened. 133 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.720 This one was sitting on a bench silently, by the way. 134 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.519 It wasn't like she was holding signs and loudly speaking 135 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.040 in tongues and all this, you know, all that hoopla. 136 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:06.160 Not even a little bit, not even a little bit. 137 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:08.879 This woman, who was a veteran of the UK Army 138 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:12.639 was literally silently praying. And when the police came up 139 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.399 and asked her, are you praying to yourself? All her 140 00:07:15.439 --> 00:07:18.720 response was I might be, And that was enough for 141 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:23.279 her to be arrested. So you know, now they're saying 142 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.680 that's not what happened, that there was other allegations it wasn't. 143 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:29.040 There wasn't, and even the police on scene have come 144 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.399 forward and given statements that that was what happened. The 145 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:33.680 fact that she was within a one hundred and fifty 146 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:37.040 meters save zone. By save zone they mean no religious 147 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:39.120 ideologies can be within one hundred and fifty meters of 148 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:43.120 an abortion clinic. Now, I'm with it for the whole 149 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:45.399 separation of church and state thing, although I think that's 150 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.639 kind of crazy that the UK would have that policy. 151 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:49.680 I thought that was kind of like one of their 152 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:52.040 whole shticks, you know, the Church of England and all that. 153 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:56.800 But yeah, all right, moving on the save zone introduced 154 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.879 in October of twenty twenty two bands activity in favor 155 00:07:59.879 --> 00:08:05.399 of or against abortion services, including protests, harassment and vigils. 156 00:08:06.120 --> 00:08:09.240 That's also incorrect. Like if you go outside of an 157 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:13.040 abortion clinic in the UK with a sign supporting abortion, 158 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:15.399 I promise nobody's going to send the police after you, 159 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:18.399 not even a little bit. But you know, okay, whatever. 160 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.839 But Vans argued that the quote unquote basic liberties of 161 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:28.480 religion of religious Britons in particular, were under threat. Vance 162 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.959 went on to criticize the use of laws enforcing buffer zones, 163 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:34.639 saying that free speech was in retreat and alleging that 164 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:38.279 the Scottish government had warned people against private prayer within 165 00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:42.279 their own homes. I'm gonna go ahead and say that 166 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:44.120 one more, another game, because I couldn't believe the first 167 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:47.720 time I wrote it free speech was in retreat, and 168 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:51.639 he alleged that Scottish government had warned people against private 169 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:54.240 prayer within their own homes. Now I did do a 170 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.039 little bit of fact checking on that, and that is 171 00:08:56.080 --> 00:09:00.639 not a mandate at this time. However, there are certain 172 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:02.559 politicians that are trying to make that a thing. 173 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:06.120 It's it's baffling to me. 174 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.639 In response, the Scottish government said Vance's claims were incorrect 175 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:15.960 and the law was carefully drafted to capture only intentional 176 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:21.200 or reckless behavior close to a small number of premises premises, 177 00:09:21.480 --> 00:09:24.799 premises whatever, providing abortion services. 178 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:28.399 Again, I that would of course be their response. 179 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:31.919 Nine days before a tense national election in Germany, he 180 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:34.919 touched on a heated debate in the country around mainstream 181 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:39.559 political parties maintaining a so called firewall of non cooperation 182 00:09:39.679 --> 00:09:43.759 with the far right Alternative for Germany Germany or AfD party, 183 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:46.679 And if I'm not mistaken, that would be the party 184 00:09:46.679 --> 00:09:49.159 that currently has control over Germany. 185 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.559 So is it not Tony helped me out here. 186 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.399 No, not yet. But they're pulling higher and higher every 187 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:59.840 week heading into this election, and even though the official 188 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:03.639 have them losing, they could pull a Donald Trump and 189 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.200 they could actually be way higher than they're reported to be. 190 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:09.200 Every week, well every couple of weeks, there's a new 191 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:14.840 like immigrant crime that gets a lot of attention. Then 192 00:10:14.840 --> 00:10:17.279 there were two this past week, one in Munich of 193 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:23.200 all places, on seidel Strasa and Dachauer Strassa coincidentally, and 194 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:26.600 another one down in Austria. And every time this happens, 195 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:29.679 Off Day goes up like a percent in popularity. And 196 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:35.679 their leader, Alice Videal, she seems to be pretty popular. 197 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.320 Her party might win big and if they do, the 198 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:42.240 EU might try to cancel the election like they did 199 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.360 with Romania. And I think Vance even talked about the 200 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:49.919 Romania situation when he was speaking in Munich. If an 201 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:53.600 election goes their way, they declare victory and keep the 202 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:57.159 euro and keep the you know, the Eurocrats in power. 203 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.759 And if it doesn't, they find a way to get 204 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.480 around that. It's kind of a soro strategy. Keep having 205 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:04.559 elections until we win, and then. 206 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:08.799 You know, not if we don't, right exactly, And I 207 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.879 mean that's the other thing too. The polls quote unquote 208 00:11:12.159 --> 00:11:15.080 show that the AfD is clearly not gonna win this. 209 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:19.320 The quote unquote polls showed that Kamala Harris not only 210 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.399 had a snowball's chance in hell, but was like leading 211 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:25.759 for a good portion of this and then out of notewhere, 212 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:29.120 Trump pulled out a landslide victory that nobody saw coming 213 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:32.600 if we are to believe the polls. So it's like, ah, 214 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:34.879 I got a hard time believing these things these days, 215 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:38.759 to be honest with you. But anyway, anyway, in the 216 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:42.039 decades since democracy was restored in Germany after the defeat 217 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:44.279 of the Nazis, there had been a consensus among its 218 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:47.159 main political parties not to work with the far right parties. 219 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:49.240 And I could see that too, a little bit of 220 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:51.080 enemy of my enemy as my friend thing. All the 221 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.720 other political parties kind of allying themselves to try to 222 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.559 stop this wave coming in. 223 00:11:57.159 --> 00:11:59.279 But again, this is the response to. 224 00:11:59.240 --> 00:12:03.519 Merkle and her policies, like shocker that the German people 225 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:05.519 would have enough of that and go to the opposition 226 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.279 of side of things. But democracy rests in the sacred 227 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:12.360 principle that the voice of the people matters. Vance said, 228 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:15.320 there's no room for fire walls. You either uphold the 229 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:19.480 principle or you don't. The AfD's candidate for Chancellor, Alice Videl, 230 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.960 later shared parts of his speech on x praising that 231 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:26.840 as excellent. The two reportedly met afterwards, according to German 232 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:31.799 public broadcaster ZDF. In his own speech, Pistorius directly addressed Vance, 233 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.039 saying democracy was called into question by the US Vice 234 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.840 President for the whole of Europe, which again I no 235 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.759 lies detected. That's literally what we're talking about here. He 236 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:47.080 speaks of the annihilation of democracy, he continued, and if 237 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:50.720 I have understood him correctly, he is comparing conditions in 238 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.799 parts of Europe with those in authoritarian regimes, and that 239 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:55.840 is not acceptable. 240 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:59.240 Even though that's quite literally what's going on here. 241 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.159 It's also made reference to the presidential election in Romania, 242 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:07.840 which was annulled in December after declassified documents suggested it 243 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:12.039 had been targeted by Russian state interference. Vance told the conference, 244 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.879 if your democracy can be destroyed with a few hundreds 245 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.799 of dollars of digital advertising from a foreign country, then 246 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:22.679 it wasn't very strong to begin with. I'm gonna be honest. 247 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:25.679 I really like that. I really like that. Like only 248 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:27.759 it wasn't even like a million dollars worth of quote 249 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:31.600 unquote Russian rubles that had made its way into the 250 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.360 political sphere of Romania. And if that was enough to 251 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.480 sway the entire election, then either a your people were 252 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.879 seriously on the fence to begin with, or be the 253 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.360 political parties really don't have much of a foothold within 254 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:53.960 the country. Romanian Prime Minister Marcel Si Salu Silaosu sure 255 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.759 said his country remains a defender of the democratic values 256 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:00.759 that Europe shares with the USA. You know how to 257 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.679 pronounce that word, tony, No, I do not. Okay, I'm 258 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:05.360 about to say bro. If you do, please help me here. 259 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:07.399 There's a lot of vowels and consonans on that shit. 260 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:11.080 I don't speak Romanian, all right, A quote here. All 261 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:17.080 Romanian authorities are committed to organising whatever, organizing free and 262 00:14:17.120 --> 00:14:20.480 fair elections by empowering citizens and guaranteeing the freedom to vote, 263 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.360 he wrote on x Vance later met with the Ukrainian 264 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:27.360 President Vladimir Zelenski on the sidelines of the conference, which 265 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:31.679 has otherwise mainly focused on Russia's full scale invasion. Zelenski 266 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.240 said during the meeting that more work was needed on 267 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.159 planning to end the fighting, while Vance said the pair 268 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:42.320 shared a fruitful conversation. Trump said US, Russia and Ukrainian 269 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.279 officials would meet in Munich, but Moscow has said it 270 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:49.720 is not sending a delegation to the summit, So a 271 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:53.480 lot of things to kind of unpack there, especially because 272 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:59.240 Trump also just recently called Zelensky a mid tier comedian 273 00:14:59.480 --> 00:15:02.240 who's best this attribute is playing Joe Biden like a fiddle. 274 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.679 Let's go ahead and listen in on that one real quick, but. 275 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:11.879 A modestly successful comedian. President Zelenski talked the United States 276 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:15.840 of America into spending three hundred and fifty billion dollars 277 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.840 to go into a war that basically couldn't be one 278 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:22.240 that never had to start and never would have started 279 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.320 if I was president, not even a chance, and it 280 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.679 didn't start for four years. He refuses have elections. Is 281 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:31.399 low in the real Ukrainian polls. I mean, how can 282 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:33.840 you be high with every city is being demolished. 283 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:34.960 It's hard to be. 284 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.000 Somebody said, oh no, his polls are good, give me 285 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:41.240 a break. Every city's being demolished. They looked like a 286 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.559 demolition site, every single one of them. And the only 287 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:48.080 thing he was really good at was playing Joe Biden 288 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:49.919 like a fiddle. He played him like a fiddle. That's 289 00:15:49.960 --> 00:15:54.440 an expression we use, yes, sir, to say that he's 290 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:58.240 pretty easy. Pretty easy something all admit that only Trump 291 00:15:58.320 --> 00:15:59.799 is going to be able to do. When the Trump admen, 292 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:02.639 we're going to be able to do it. I think 293 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.200 Putin even admitted. 294 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.000 That Biden never tried. 295 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:10.919 Europe has failed to bring peace, and Zolensky probably wants to. 296 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:13.159 Maybe he wants to keep the gravy train going. I 297 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:15.120 don't know what's the problem, but he hasn't been able. 298 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:17.840 He's very upset that he wasn't invited. He could have 299 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:20.000 come if he wanted to, but that he wasn't invited 300 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:23.240 to Saudi Arabia. But he's been working for three years, 301 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.960 has never been even meeting so phone calls to stop 302 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:29.159 this war. It's a horrible thing. I love Ukraine, but 303 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:33.039 Zolensky has done a terrible job. His country is shattered 304 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:38.080 and millions and millions of people have unnecessarily died. And 305 00:16:38.120 --> 00:16:40.799 you can't bring a war to an end if you 306 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:42.039 don't talk to both sides. 307 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:42.639 You got to talk. 308 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:44.879 They haven't been talking for three years. 309 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:49.879 No lies detected. To be completely honest with y'all. 310 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:54.039 Uh, everybody who has an opinion on this, please weigh in. 311 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:55.399 I mean, there was a lot of things that were 312 00:16:55.440 --> 00:17:00.440 said from JD. Trump pretty much called Zelensky again, a 313 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:04.640 moderately successful comedian who is kind of I'm not gonna 314 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.119 say ran Ukraine into the ground by any means. I mean, 315 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.079 I don't know of anybody who would have done a 316 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:13.599 necessarily better job, because again I'm not like, I don't 317 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:15.759 have my finger on the pulse of Ukrainian politics by 318 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:20.519 any means. But I will say that his main racket 319 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.519 has been trying to get as much money sent to 320 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.240 Ukraine as possible from every country that's willing to write 321 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:33.400 a check. You know, the military aid. I understood rockets, tanks, weapons, 322 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.279 these things. At least I could understand. I could put 323 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:37.039 the pieces together in my mind as to why they 324 00:17:37.039 --> 00:17:40.079 would need that. And now they're saying something around one 325 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:45.039 hundred billion US dollars have just evaporated. They they don't 326 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:48.079 really know what happened to this actual money. You know, 327 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.279 it's crazy. What are your thoughts on this? 328 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:55.119 Well, my thought going back a few years is Zelenski 329 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:58.200 used to be regarded as a relatively pro Russian politician 330 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:00.839 in Ukraine back in twenty seventeen when he was elected 331 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:05.359 because he was replacing Petro Poroshenko and another guy ur 332 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:08.680 Senni yachts and yuk who were bigger Ukrainian nationalists than 333 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:13.519 he was. But he's definitely gotten. He's moved in the 334 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:18.319 more Ukrainian nationalist direction. I was listening to a podcast 335 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:20.759 today with a guy named Stormy Waters talking about the 336 00:18:20.799 --> 00:18:24.079 internal politics inside Ukraine and how they're sitting on a 337 00:18:24.119 --> 00:18:31.160 lot of minerals. And there's different rich oligarchs within Ukraine 338 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:36.480 like Ihor Kolomoyski who kind of have grown in their 339 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:41.880 ability to control Zelenski over all this time. And Zelenski 340 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:43.880 at the very beginning of this war in twenty twenty 341 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:47.640 two in March, wanted to meet with Putin in Ankara 342 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:51.119 or Istanbul to negotiate a peace agreement, but the British 343 00:18:51.119 --> 00:18:54.720 wouldn't let him. Boris Johnson flew to Kiev and told 344 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:59.799 him not to go. And the entire Western European establishment 345 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:02.559 Zelenski have a really dug in their heels, just fighting 346 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.519 Russia as hard as they can, trying to get their 347 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:07.599 old territory back, which you're never going to get back, 348 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.160 and the minerals that it's sitting on because the US 349 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:15.920 has lent them a couple hundred billion dollars. Trump said 350 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.559 three hundred and fifty billion. I don't know if it's 351 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.000 that high. I know it's been at least one hundred billion, 352 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:24.880 But how are they going to pay it back? Supposedly 353 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:27.440 with minerals. Another way they've been paying it back is 354 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:31.799 by allowing Americans and other foreigners to buy Ukrainian farmland. 355 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:37.519 So Archer, Daniels, Midland and DuPont and Monsanto have now 356 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.000 bought more Ukrainian agricultural land than all of the disputed 357 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:44.079 territories put together, which is like, I don't know, maybe 358 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:50.079 ten percent of Ukrainian's Ukrainian territory. So it's Ukraine's been 359 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.440 bought by the West, and I think that's bad for 360 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.279 them and bad for us, bad for everybody, and we 361 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:58.720 need to get this war ended. So I'm fully in 362 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:01.240 favor of Trump doing everything you can't to do that. 363 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:04.799 You've asked in the past about why Western Europe supports 364 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.799 this war against Russia so much, and Stormy had some 365 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:10.960 opinions on that too. He thinks that Britain is in 366 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:13.559 danger of a sovereign debt default, and he thinks that's 367 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:17.960 part of the reason why the COVID panic was forced 368 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:21.880 on the world by the Anglo sphere, because if you're 369 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:23.720 gonna have a debt default, you have to have some 370 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:27.079 kind of crisis to distract everybody and shut down the economy, 371 00:20:27.680 --> 00:20:30.039 or you have to have a big war. So they 372 00:20:30.039 --> 00:20:32.160 already did the former, and now they're trying to do 373 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:36.559 the latter by upping the chances of war against Russia. 374 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:42.400 Britain and France both have both discussed sending troops to Ukraine, 375 00:20:42.599 --> 00:20:45.519 and Germany has tried to veto it with whatever power 376 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:51.880 they have in NATO and in the EU. So go 377 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:55.440 Germany on that front. Germany former East Germany is relatively 378 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:59.440 pro Russia because I guess they were owned by Russia 379 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:01.039 for a while. Not really, they weren't part of the 380 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:03.119 Soviet Union, but they were part of the Warsaw Pact, 381 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.160 and the pro Russia feelings there are still pretty high, 382 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:09.559 are they. The Germans who I've ever known personally are 383 00:21:09.559 --> 00:21:11.680 in the West, and they all have hated Russia for 384 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:14.359 a long time, so I actually kind of part company 385 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:16.160 with them on that issue. 386 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:18.400 I know that a lot of I mean, Germany is 387 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:22.160 a very diverse country. I know when an American thinks 388 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:24.519 of Germany, we think of a very unified people, and 389 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.640 of course we think of the World War II, you know, 390 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:30.480 tism that goes along with it, and I get that fine. 391 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:31.640 It were kind of a it was kind of a 392 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:34.119 big talking point for a long time, right, fair enough, 393 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:37.160 But the Cold War pretty much separated Germany. I know 394 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.279 Berlin was separated into two, but a lot of people 395 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:44.480 had very differing opinions on which side of the capitalists 396 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:48.279 versus communist ideations they really fell on. I didn't know 397 00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:52.440 if Germany is pro or anti Russia these days. To 398 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:54.720 be honest with you, I don't think that. Like, I 399 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:58.799 don't think Germany as a whole are concerned about Putin 400 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:01.720 invading their land like that. That's not a concern by 401 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.759 any means, right of this whole thing of like, well, 402 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:04.640 if we don't stop. 403 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:06.880 Putin in Ukraine, he's just gonna keep going. 404 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:09.960 I don't think Germany really feels that way. But I'm 405 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.480 sure there are some people that go along with that. 406 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:13.319 I don't know. 407 00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:16.680 Yeah, some of the politicians talk that way. Uh And 408 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:20.319 but among the Western Germans I've ever talked to, they 409 00:22:20.319 --> 00:22:23.759 have overall negative opinions about Russians. It's kind of similar 410 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:29.559 to American right wing anglo opinions against you know, Mexican stereotypes. 411 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:34.599 They're lazy, they're criminals, and they're alcoholics. That's what West 412 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:41.720 Germans tend to think about Russians. I thought, yeah, about 413 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:46.440 the polls, I don't know a little similar, like they 414 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:50.119 consider Slavs to be kind of the way American right 415 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:53.559 wing anglos consider Mexicans and Hispanics. 416 00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:55.119 I've learned that too. 417 00:22:55.200 --> 00:23:01.200 Apparently Polish man is Europe's Flora Man. There's a news 418 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:03.279 article for every single day of the year, just like 419 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.079 Florida Man, and you look up name the date and 420 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:09.640 there's some crazy news article about Florida man doing some wildness. 421 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:13.799 Apparently Polish man has the exact same thing. That's Europe's 422 00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:17.000 Florida come to find out. So, and I've never understood 423 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:20.119 the racism towards the Polox, like why there was so 424 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:23.759 much stigma towards certain European. 425 00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:26.079 Nations against them and all these cause. 426 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:27.720 I've never I don't think I've ever met a Polish 427 00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:32.559 person that was like a bad person or would embrace 428 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:33.559 any of these stereotypes. 429 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:35.319 But apparently, like you said, kind of the. 430 00:23:35.640 --> 00:23:39.880 Fat, lazy, uh, trashy, alcoholic and all these things. And 431 00:23:39.920 --> 00:23:43.160 I'm like, is that really like the Polish stereotype, because 432 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:45.920 I mean, apparently that's the Russian stereotype. You know, boris 433 00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.599 over here wearing his top and bottom matching a Didas 434 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.839 track suit with a wife white beater with a gold 435 00:23:50.920 --> 00:23:53.240 chain and a cigarette hanging out the mouth. That's the 436 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:56.599 Russian stereotype, you know what I mean. But apparently Poland's 437 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.759 like got a whole nother vibe on that one too. 438 00:23:58.880 --> 00:23:59.720 I don't know, man. 439 00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.880 Yeah, Historically, I guess all those negative stereotypes applied pull on. 440 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.880 But in the modern day, I think a lot of 441 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.759 Western liberals really don't like Poland for the same reason 442 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:14.559 they don't like Hungary, which is Poland is a little 443 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.799 less pro immigrant and a little more right wing. Poland 444 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:21.119 is very Catholic for the same reason the Irish for 445 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:25.720 Catholic because their neighbors aren't, and they don't like their neighbors, right. 446 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:29.000 Right, Okay, I get that now, So all the stereotypes 447 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.279 that go along with that ands they kind of spawn 448 00:24:31.319 --> 00:24:32.480 into their own flavoring. 449 00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:35.920 Yeah, yep, I get this. 450 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:40.640 Jesus. It's very weird when you see racism, like between 451 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.519 the same ethnicity of people. Well, I want to say 452 00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:47.240 that because they'll get mad at that one. I guess 453 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:50.680 because in America we look at racism with very much 454 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:55.319 skin color depends on the racism right. Europe is not 455 00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.599 that case. White people be hating white people for a 456 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:01.440 whole other reasons in Europe, and it's pretty entertaining from 457 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:04.759 you know, third party looking at it. You know, long 458 00:25:04.799 --> 00:25:09.240 standing feuds, centuries old feuds that are still prevalent today, 459 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:13.039 but just take on modern adaptations. It's yeah, like Hungary, 460 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.359 for instance, I feel like most people don't even acknowledge 461 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:18.279 that it's like still a country anymore, but it absolutely is. 462 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:20.640 And they have a whole other plethora of problems along 463 00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.880 with Romania. Who would have thought that Romania had any 464 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.799 of these issues. But apparently Russia threw a couple hundred 465 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:32.640 k in their direction and rigged an election by like 466 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.880 a couple of hundreds of thousands of dollars. 467 00:25:34.920 --> 00:25:36.359 That's also pretty hysterical to me. 468 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:43.440 Yeah, it sounds like another Russia Gate controversy. And mainly 469 00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.160 the Western liberals just don't like the candidate who was 470 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:49.319 gonna win, so they call them a Russian asset and 471 00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:50.880 get the election canceled. 472 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:53.720 M I see that. Now. 473 00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.000 As far as the whole free speech thing that JD 474 00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.720 was talking about, I gotta say a lot of the 475 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.559 sore that I looked at in Europe. Of course. Yeah, 476 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:05.440 if you're looking at a mainstream media, they're gonna say 477 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:06.920 they totally have free speech. 478 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.079 But that is not the case. 479 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:12.079 I mean, we know for sure that anything within the 480 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:16.920 British Commonwealth do not actually have freedom of speech, freedom 481 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:19.279 of religion, and freedom of speech and these types of 482 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.920 things that Americans really take for granted. A lot of 483 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:25.799 European countries do not have that. I mean, sure, this 484 00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:30.440 chick silently praying close enough to an abortion clinic, like okay, fine, 485 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:32.279 people want to throw shade at that, even though she, 486 00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:34.400 in my opinion, really wasn't doing anything wrong. She was 487 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:38.440 sitting there with her eyes closed. That that was the situation, 488 00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:41.079 and the police arrested her for it because she said, 489 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:43.880 I might be when they asked her if she's praying 490 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.519 to herself, she could have. That could have been just 491 00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:48.920 her being a dick, like you know what I mean, like, 492 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:52.839 are you causing any problems? I might be like that. 493 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:54.720 That could have just been her being sarcastic. She was 494 00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:58.200 arrested one hundred percent for that, and uh yeah, that's 495 00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.440 that's kind of a growing consensus as well. In European countries, 496 00:27:01.519 --> 00:27:07.119 although if any of the Arabic migrants want to loudly 497 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.480 proclaim their faith regardless of where they're at, they're somehow 498 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:14.279 politically protected. That's a whole other stick right now. 499 00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.240 Yeah, yeah, I'd say that's true. But Europe's never had 500 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.759 free speech, and it's kind of shocking to Americans, kind 501 00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:25.400 of like they've never had gun rights except Czechia used 502 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:28.920 to chech Czechoslovakia or Czechia way back in the sixteen 503 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.039 hundreds was the first place with a right to bear arms. 504 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.839 But in Europe in general, they've never had free speech. 505 00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.880 I remember I actually took my honeymoon there with my 506 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.680 wife back in twenty twelve, and I was reading the 507 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:46.119 newspapers in Germany and there was some controversy about somebody 508 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:51.720 burning a kran somewhere, and the newspaper asking people for 509 00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:55.000 their opinions. Should this be forbidden to post on the internet, 510 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.920 And the slight majority opinion was yes, it should be 511 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:02.200 illegal to post this on the internet. Nobody arguing about 512 00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.400 First Amendment. They don't know what the First Amendment is, 513 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.160 they've never had anything like that. They think it's totally 514 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.400 legitimate to ban wrong opinions, and everybody's got their own 515 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.000 idea of what a wrong opinion is, and when they 516 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:13.880 get in power, they want to impose that idea. 517 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:16.519 But if they have a group of flying an Isis 518 00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:19.640 flag and burning Bibles or burning you know, any other 519 00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:22.720 type of religious book, well, you know, that's just their culture. 520 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:23.759 It's okay. 521 00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:27.279 Yeah, I don't know if that's happened. Maybe it has. 522 00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:31.640 But one country that burns the most Kurans, you might 523 00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:36.359 not guess it is Saudi Arabia because lots of people 524 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:39.599 go there for the Hodj, which is required for Muslims 525 00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:41.599 to do. It's in Mecca. Everyone's got to go there 526 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:46.839 once in their life. And there's only one approved Koranic version. 527 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.960 It's called the Hoffs version of the Arabic Koran, and 528 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.960 it was ratified in nineteen twenty four, surprising it took 529 00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:59.039 that long. But people will come and with Qurans written 530 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:03.559 in far See or any other language, and the Saudist 531 00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.920 will just burn it. And apparently that's the respectful way 532 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:08.559 to get rid of it, kind of like the respectful 533 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:10.279 way to get rid of the US flag is to 534 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:14.039 burn it properly. But yeah, you know, it's a whole 535 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:16.880 question of intent behind burning both of those items. 536 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:19.400 Yeah. So speaking about the burning of the US flag, 537 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:22.079 I actually did that with my kids two weeks ago. 538 00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:25.119 I had a couple of actually like three different American 539 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.200 flags and two Marine Corps flags that I fly both 540 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.079 in front of my house at all times, and they 541 00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.680 had gotten tattered and weathered as you do. And I 542 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.640 showed my children the proper way to dispose of US flags. 543 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:37.039 You have to cut them up a certain way, and 544 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:39.599 you have to do certain things and all this. And 545 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:41.880 one of their friends came over, is like, you're burning 546 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.039 a flag, and I had to like explain to them, like, no, no, 547 00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:48.680 this is the correct, respectful way of putting to rest 548 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:52.880 this article in this symbol of America. So I could 549 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:55.640 understand the burning of the Quran and that way if 550 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.759 it's being done respectfully and with that intention. But talking 551 00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:02.839 about burning Korans, you hear a lot of people who 552 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.240 will say that, like, you know, the Bible, for instance, 553 00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.480 as a book that has so many different translations and 554 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:10.640 there's so many different versions and all of these things, 555 00:30:10.759 --> 00:30:12.039 well you don't have that with the Koran. 556 00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:14.599 There's one version that's only made it through them bu 557 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:15.039 By Buck. 558 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.240 The reason why would be a caliph Uffmann I in Afan, 559 00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.200 He ordered the burning of all other copies of the 560 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.839 Koran after he finished his own version. This was during 561 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:29.200 the Third calif He literally just sent one of his 562 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.279 generals out to find every other version of the Quran 563 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.440 in existence and get rid of them, get rid of 564 00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.519 him because he was the only one that had any 565 00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.519 kind of actual insight to the prophet, allegedly. And that's 566 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.720 just the way it is now. And so yeah, it's 567 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.920 pretty crazy how they almost had the exact same situation 568 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.440 that the Christians have, but they just decided to consolidate 569 00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:54.839 it and unify it way early on. And that's the 570 00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:57.599 version that everybody's going into now. And that's just the 571 00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:59.480 way it is. I didn't know they were burning it 572 00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:02.119 in different religions. Are a different religiouscuse me? 573 00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:08.200 In different languages languages, yes, But there are no euthmonic 574 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.000 Qurans that have survived to the present day. That's one 575 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.759 issue for them to claim that it's never changed. And 576 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:18.880 another issue is that there are several different Arabic versions 577 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.039 that survived up until nineteen twenty four and in a 578 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:25.240 few parts of North Africa and other places you can 579 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.640 still get the other versions. Besides the Hofs version, there's 580 00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:32.720 one called the Warsh version, and there's actually like thirty 581 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:38.200 of them. So yeah, it's not true that not one 582 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.039 letter has been changed, which they will claim. They also 583 00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.680 claim that the Koran exists in heaven on golden tablets, 584 00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.000 which is why Joseph Smith was accused of being an 585 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.599 American Muhammed. He was making very similar claims about golden tablets. 586 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.720 Yeah, Joseph Smith kind of he did the same thing 587 00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:57.599 that Mohammad kind of did, if we really want to 588 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:00.319 get technical about it. He took a little from this group, 589 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.200 a little from that group and kind of made its 590 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.160 own amalgamation and kind of ran with it. He wasn't 591 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.039 the warlord type that Mohammed was. He waited till his 592 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:15.240 pre his protege of Brigham Young, and he went on 593 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.359 the war path and just slaughtered people. 594 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:19.000 Have y'all seen that show on Netflix? 595 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.119 No, I haven't, but I read a little bit about 596 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:26.680 how they would dress up as Indians and lead other 597 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:28.480 settler people. 598 00:32:28.759 --> 00:32:33.400 Yeah, American Primeval and they did such a good job 599 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.160 of portraying the truth of what Brigham Young was doing 600 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.279 that the Mormon church had to come out and protest 601 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.200 it and try to dispel it in some way. But 602 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:44.319 the more they tried to dispel it, the more they 603 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.359 had to acknowledge the fact of the matter that the 604 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:51.000 Mormon faith, the Church of Latter day Saints, was essentially 605 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.559 trying to have their own country in Utah. They weren't 606 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:56.559 trying to be a state of the United States. They 607 00:32:56.559 --> 00:32:59.920 were trying to be their own sovereign territory all under 608 00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.799 h the Prophet and then bring them young. Even though 609 00:33:03.839 --> 00:33:06.200 the Prophet was kicked out of his own land and 610 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.720 then gunned down in the top story of a building, 611 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:10.640 which I think that's like a religious site to them 612 00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:11.160 these days. 613 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:12.920 I forget where it was. 614 00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.279 Where he was, uh he was killed, but I know 615 00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.839 a lot of Mormons try to pilgrimage their way to 616 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:19.839 that site, and the people that live in that city 617 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:23.880 these days like freaking hate them and like do what 618 00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.839 they can to dissuade them from coming there. It's uh, 619 00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:29.960 it's pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy. But yeah, he was 620 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.880 kind of the in that regard. I would say he's 621 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.079 kind of the modern Mohammed. You know, take a little 622 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.480 bit from this pagan tribe, take a little bit from 623 00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:39.200 this mythos, take a little bit from this religious book, 624 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.519 take a little bit from the Bible, same as Mohammad did, 625 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:43.359 and just kind of run with it and make it 626 00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:46.000 your own man. And and just uh, you know, kill 627 00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.599 anybody that disagrees with you. You'll just you'll be shocked 628 00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:50.119 at how your flock will grow. 629 00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.640 But uh yeah. 630 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:57.720 Yeah, wild things. Ah So all right, So that's uh, 631 00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.160 that's pretty much is where I wanted to go with 632 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:00.920 the European side things. I got a couple of things 633 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.920 I wanted to bring up as far as the continent 634 00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.519 of Africa was concerned. But before we jump on that, 635 00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:08.159 anything that any of y'all would like to bring up 636 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:09.719 at this time. We have a few people in this 637 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:10.480 group this evening. 638 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.559 Maybe I want to talk about the three Secrets of Fatma. 639 00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:19.679 We could do that later. I've talked enough so far. 640 00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.000 Okay, what you got there, Royce? 641 00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.960 No, so, I just I sent a link basically to 642 00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.719 a Newsweek article that AOC got herself in some hot 643 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:34.280 water because she tried to post a video to illegal 644 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:38.880 immigrants on how to avoid ice, and mister Holmand was 645 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.599 not so happy about it. And like the news article 646 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:47.320 basically essentially said that he doesn't know if the DJ 647 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:52.280 should actually press charges on her. Wow, so I thought 648 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:55.039 that was I thought that was actually pretty ironic. 649 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:56.199 I love it. 650 00:34:56.880 --> 00:34:59.679 Let's just read it together. Why not AOC who for 651 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:04.760 the It's still it blows my mind that actual adults 652 00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.880 voted this human being into some sort of a political 653 00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:13.679 position like that. That shocks me, deserves me, It makes 654 00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:17.719 me sad. But she is still currently there currently. We 655 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:20.199 shall see how the future plays out here. But AOC 656 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:25.360 under investigation over illegal immigration is a Newsweek article borders are, 657 00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:28.079 Which Jesus Christ, is that still. 658 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:29.199 A title that we're running with. 659 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.440 I know that was Kamala's title at one point that 660 00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:34.880 she later said was never her title or whatever, But like, 661 00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:38.039 that's hilarious that that's a real position in the United 662 00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:43.000 States government. But all right, borders are or Tom Horne 663 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:49.519 haman Homan whatever, suggested that Homan all rights are? Tom 664 00:35:49.639 --> 00:35:56.280 Homan suggested Representative Alexandria Ascario Cortes, the bartender that got 665 00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.880 Lucky is being investigated by the Department of Justice for 666 00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:05.440 potentially impeding immigration enforcement law. AOC host d a live 667 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:09.239 webinar on Wednesday advising migrants in her congressional district about 668 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.039 their rights if they come into contact with Immigration and 669 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:18.199 Customs enforcement or ICE agents looking to deport them. 670 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:22.599 Impediment is impediment. In my opinion, impediment is impediment. 671 00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.639 I don't know, maybe I'm mispronouncing that, home In told 672 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.880 Fox News asked, he questioned whether her behavior was crossing 673 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.880 the line. She's standing in front of the Capitol building 674 00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:34.599 with a sign saying hashtag asylum is a right. 675 00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.199 Okay, political asylum. 676 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:41.519 Yes, we should offer that to neighboring countries who are 677 00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.239 dealing with something like Haiti. For instance. Haiti is in 678 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.199 the middle of a like a ridiculous crisis right now. 679 00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.480 And if enough Haitian people build a boat and make 680 00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.760 it to US shores and they're trying to claim political 681 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:56.679 asylum temporarily until things cool off, sure we could have 682 00:36:56.719 --> 00:36:59.119 that conversation of giving them a little bit of an asylum 683 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:01.960 that is out what's happening on the Mexico US border 684 00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:02.360 right now. 685 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.360 But okay, why it matters. 686 00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:07.880 Trump made a strict immigration measure a core component of 687 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.000 his return to the White House. Along with carrying out 688 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:13.840 mass deportations, his second administration has vowed to prosecute anyone 689 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:18.239 who impedes their immigration enforcement operation. In that case, I 690 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.320 really do believe that AOC should be prosecuted. 691 00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:21.360 What to know? 692 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:25.440 The Know Your Rights with ICE virtual event was streamed 693 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:30.119 live on AOC's Facebook page, providing migrant viewers with information 694 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.199 on handling ICE search requests and of officers arrive at 695 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:38.000 their homes or workplace. The fifty four minute live stream 696 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:41.679 was designed to inform migrants living in her fourteenth district, 697 00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.519 which encompasses Areas of Queens and the Bronx, of their rights. 698 00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.280 She is so far away from the border that it 699 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.440 shocks me that this is even a talking point for her. 700 00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:54.519 But okay, she says, quote believe it or not, in America, 701 00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.920 everyone has rights. She wrote this on X on Thursday, 702 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.679 sharing a guide on the legal rights undocumented migrants have. 703 00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.800 For the record, they are undocumented immigrants. They have no 704 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.000 rights in America. Just throwing that out. Yes, there are 705 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:13.679 certain inalienable rights to all humans, and I will give 706 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.039 you that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But 707 00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:21.199 if they're not in America legally, then they're breaking the law. Therefore, 708 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.519 our Bill of Rights says that you know they are 709 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:27.440 criminals by definition at that time, but anyway, Homan criticized 710 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.360 the events and question whether it constituted obstruction of immigration enforcement. 711 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.320 He claimed to have controlled the DJ for clarification on 712 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:39.159 whether AOC's actions could be considered unlawful interference. I sent 713 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:42.280 an email to the Deputy AG today. At what level 714 00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:46.519 is that impediment? Impediment? I don't know what it's getting 715 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:51.760 in the way, right, is that impeding our law enforcement efforts? 716 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.840 If so, what are we going to do about it? 717 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.480 If she's crossing the line. I'm working with the DOJ 718 00:38:56.599 --> 00:38:58.920 to find out. Maybe AOC is going to be in 719 00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.320 trouble now, He added, AOC fire back and told the 720 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.639 nation's top immigration official to read the US Constitution. Whoo okay, 721 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:11.039 what a clapback AOC. Good, good job read the Constitution? 722 00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:14.480 You mean the thing that only applies to American citizens? Smart? 723 00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.719 Uh, Maybe she's going to be in trouble now. 724 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.519 Maybe he can learn to read the Constitution would be 725 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.400 a good place to start, she wrote on X and 726 00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.360 when all of that was like some were capital somewhere 727 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.480 lower case. She's trying to make fun of him. Yeah, 728 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.679 the Constitution would be a great place for you. To 729 00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:33.880 start as well, AOC to learn you know what you're 730 00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.840 trying to uphold and defend, and all the things that 731 00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:40.280 you said within your oath to the American people, and. 732 00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:43.239 All that was the webinar for migrants. 733 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:47.480 Illegal hosting Know Your Rights seminars for migrants to deal 734 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.159 with ICE is not illegal in the United States. In fact, 735 00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:56.679 prove providing legal education, including informing individuals of their constitutional rights, 736 00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.320 is protected under the First Amendment, which is the freedom 737 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:02.440 of speech, again the first Amendment of the US. For 738 00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:06.079 US citizens, these typically cover essential rights including the right 739 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.159 to remain silent, which she really should do at this time, 740 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:12.519 the right to refuse consent to a search, which they 741 00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:14.360 don't have the right to do because they're not citizens, 742 00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.119 and what to do if ICE arrived at a home, workplace, 743 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.760 or public space. They also provide guidance on how individuals 744 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:25.079 can seek legal assistance to protect themselves and navigate immigration 745 00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.639 related encounters. Effectively, Anthony I c R hand raised Sarah 746 00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.280 get ahead. 747 00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:37.000 Okay, So I feel like I have to caveat this 748 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.719 statement with I am absolutely not a fan of AOC, 749 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:44.039 I am not elected, but as we're having this conversation, 750 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.320 I feel like this is the place to have that conversation. 751 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:50.679 You know, there was a sentiment raised that these people 752 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:54.199 are here illegally, which I agree with. Therefore they don't 753 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:59.599 have rights. So if we are going to have that mentality, 754 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:05.280 where does the buck end? Because then okay, well, if 755 00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:10.159 you if you're if you're a criminal, you don't have rights. 756 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.639 So are we taking away the basic human rights of 757 00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:17.079 people that are currently incarcerated, regardless of what they did? 758 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:19.039 Like like, so. 759 00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.199 I guess like as much as I don't like this woman, 760 00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:28.880 I don't the convict in me does not see anything 761 00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:34.480 wrong with her, educating with her, educating people about their rights. 762 00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:40.920 In regards to dealing with federal cops, I don't trust cops. 763 00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.199 I hear them. But at the same time, a convicted felon, 764 00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:48.000 for instance, does forfeit certain rights, for instance, the right 765 00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:48.800 to bear arms. 766 00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:53.599 So you're right, certain rights, but not all but not 767 00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.039 all rights fair enough. So so for so for it's 768 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.320 I'm more just thinking, ah, some you know, who's ever 769 00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:02.719 who's ever listening to this? 770 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.119 Like it's a after some. 771 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.400 Points that were that that that were made, which are valid, Like, yes, 772 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.079 the somebody that's here, I legally they do not have 773 00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:18.880 all the same rights of uh a full citizen, right, 774 00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:21.400 you know what I mean? And yes they need to 775 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:25.840 go home. But it we start getting into the slippery 776 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:32.320 slope of who does, who does or doesn't have rights. 777 00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:34.800 I think what you're saying here, I do. 778 00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.599 But we also have to keep in mind that when 779 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:42.840 even an incarcerated person in America is still a US citizen, 780 00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:48.079 so they have certain inalienable rights to the US citizenry. 781 00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:52.079 An illegal immigrant does not. 782 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:55.360 A good question here what counts as due process? And 783 00:42:55.400 --> 00:43:00.679 how do we go about uh deporting your legal immigrants 784 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:05.679 without doing it so quickly that we are risking, you know, 785 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.159 killing them basically because a lot of them are going 786 00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.039 to exclaim I can't go back to my home country. 787 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.159 I need asylum here because if I go back to 788 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.360 my home country, somebody's going to kill me. And if 789 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:17.400 they all say that, how do we tell which ones 790 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:20.079 are telling the truth? And what's a reasonable amount of 791 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.559 time to ascertain whether they're telling the truth or not? 792 00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:26.960 Maybe maybe that's the question here, or maybe it isn't. 793 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.679 I think you asked a really good question, and I'm 794 00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:33.679 not in favor of, you know, just getting rid of 795 00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.320 everybody with no consideration for what's going to happen to them. 796 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.719 I think some of them, some of them are being honest. 797 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.840 I feel how much duty do we have to you know, 798 00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:42.639 spend time on that. 799 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.239 But how many of them are being right throwing that out? 800 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:50.199 Certain people from across the border did come here to 801 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.760 seek asylum because maybe they have some sort of connection 802 00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:56.360 to cartels and they're trying to escape that life right 803 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:58.599 and start a new life somewhere and all these things 804 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.400 they're trying to get for better opportunities for them and 805 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:01.960 their family. 806 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:03.880 I have sympathy for this one hundred percent. 807 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.000 At one point in time, Cuban nationals were making boats 808 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.400 out of trash to get to America to leave the 809 00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:13.119 communist regime in their country because they were being killed. 810 00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.159 And okay, fine, I have sympathy for this. There is 811 00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:19.719 a difference between somebody seeking political asylum and or like 812 00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.239 for their lives and people that are just coming here 813 00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.800 just because they can make more money doing the same 814 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:28.559 job here that they would have had elsewhere. I feel 815 00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.639 like the vast majority of them will try to say 816 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.760 that exact sentence when I feel like most of that 817 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:39.760 would be incorrect. So, like, again, how do we determine 818 00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:43.239 who is and is not actually a political asylum seeker 819 00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.880 or just an asylum seeker in general. 820 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:47.960 I don't know. 821 00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:50.079 I feel like the majority of them that get sent 822 00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.119 back to their home countries will not be killed, you know, 823 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:57.199 the vast majority of them. I feel like we'll probably 824 00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.719 just be able to go back to their home cities 825 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.159 and home villages and whatever the case is, and pick 826 00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:03.239 up where they left off. 827 00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.519 I don't know, Uh, Anthony, go ahead. 828 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.519 So yeah, I just want to Uh, I always forget 829 00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:15.320 that legal term, but yeah, due process was was where 830 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.400 I was going with that. Like this this conversation right here, 831 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:23.840 and uh, it's it's a great conversation. But what like 832 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.360 the way both the way. 833 00:45:26.440 --> 00:45:29.039 There's this. 834 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.519 And especially like the people you know and in including myself, 835 00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.599 that are forced you know, sending people home. 836 00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:39.400 Hm. 837 00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:43.840 What I'm having a hard time with in in myself, 838 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:45.960 and maybe I'm the only one right it is okay, 839 00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:49.960 Trump actually got in. He's doing all these things right, 840 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:55.519 and it's fucking great. But now my freaking conspiracy theorist 841 00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.960 senses are going off and the warning light it's like, no, 842 00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.519 this this is too things are going so smooth. What's 843 00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:03.159 the setup? 844 00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.440 I feel like it could have been this easy the 845 00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:08.719 whole time, but nobody had the balls to do it. 846 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:12.880 That everybody was saying this right. And I'm not for 847 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:14.840 the record when I say they don't have rights. I'm 848 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:17.079 not saying they don't have basic human rights right like 849 00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:20.360 the kids in cages. That was deplorable, That was absolutely 850 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.320 awful done by Obama. I might add like, we don't 851 00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:26.239 need that by any means. I'm not saying that once 852 00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:27.960 we catch a group of illegals trying to make their 853 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.599 way across the border, we should treat them like animals. 854 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:32.159 No, absolutely not. 855 00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:36.559 I am saying that we should absolutely send them home. 856 00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:41.039 And I actually wouldn't be mad if the financial burden 857 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.800 of sending them home falls on the country to which 858 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:48.599 they came. I'm here for this one hundred percent. And yes, 859 00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:52.760 I understand they're trying to make a better life for themselves, 860 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:56.000 but there's other places that they could have gone other 861 00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:59.320 than here. Besides, we have enough problems to deal with 862 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:01.880 on our own. Be honest with you, I don't think 863 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:03.880 that we need to send them all to jail because 864 00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:07.000 they're here illegally, therefore making them criminals. I believe we 865 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.039 just need to send them home and their home countries 866 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.079 can deal with them as they see fit. And it's 867 00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:14.840 not like every single country in Central America is just 868 00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:18.719 a full on collapsing state where it's death and destruction 869 00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:21.239 around every corner. There are I mean, yes, there are 870 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.239 certain rough areas no matter where you go. Hell, we 871 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.360 got rough areas in America. But I would argue that 872 00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.840 a lot of these countries actually have a pretty decent 873 00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:34.719 living situation, not the best, not first world. Although I'm sure, 874 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:37.599 I'm I'm I'm pissing off some people by saying that 875 00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:38.880 Central America has. 876 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:40.280 Tons of first world amenities. 877 00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.000 I'm sure, I'm sure, But that's kind of a point, 878 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.880 you know what I mean, I don't know, I don't 879 00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.320 know what the due process is for. Whenever you find 880 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:53.360 a criminal committing a crime, how do you get rid 881 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.880 of said criminal or how do you put that criminal 882 00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:57.679 to justice. 883 00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.000 If somebody is robbing a place, it's very simple. 884 00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:05.360 If somebody is trespassing, for instance, the answer is also 885 00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:10.039 pretty simple. But again, US citizens get sent to US jails. 886 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.440 Non US citizens that are caught here illegally should be 887 00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:17.079 sent home. And I know, I mean, I don't believe 888 00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:21.679 that they have the same quote unquote rights that are 889 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.199 granted to American citizens by our constitution. 890 00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.039 I don't know, although I do agree with you, Anthony, 891 00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:30.760 that this would. 892 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.039 Be the time and place to have these types of 893 00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:34.000 hard conversations one hundred percent so. 894 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.559 And it's not like I'm saying, Look, I have. 895 00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:39.000 A lot of buddies that are felons right and have 896 00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:40.960 turned their lives around and are trying to do better 897 00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.920 these days, and like they have paid their debt to society, 898 00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:45.880 and they should, in my opinion, have the right to 899 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:48.159 vote and be able to own weapons and all these things. 900 00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:51.119 I have no problem with this. The problem is that 901 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.320 that's not the way laws work. Laws are always a 902 00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.639 blanket policy, and they don't go for the case by 903 00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.400 case minority. They go for the majority. You know. I 904 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:03.400 believe that's certain people should be able to pay their debt, Dessy, 905 00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:07.159 especially for non violent offenders. Right, Like for a nonviolent crime, 906 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.840 why can't this person have a piece within their home 907 00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:14.559 to protect their home. That's ridiculous to me, But somehow 908 00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:18.280 that's not allowed. Although they could still own cannons. They 909 00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:20.920 can still absolutely own canons, even if you are a 910 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.280 violent offender, there's nothing stopping. 911 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.599 You from owning a home made blunderbuss throwing it out. 912 00:49:25.960 --> 00:49:29.760 But another big problem with immigration, and I've heard conflicting 913 00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:32.039 things about this, but a lot of them and their 914 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:35.000 families do end up taking advantage of welfare benefits that 915 00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:37.239 didn't exist one hundred or one hundred and fifty years 916 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:41.599 ago when those immigration ways were coming to the United States. 917 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:45.960 And I've heard conflicting things about this, but the more 918 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.800 extreme examples are somebody with an H one b comes 919 00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:53.280 over from India, brings like five family members, especially older 920 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:56.880 family members. They all go on some kind of government assistance. 921 00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:02.079 They're getting snap, they're getting housing as assistance. Or for example, 922 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:05.199 the group of Haitians that went to Springfield, Ohio, and 923 00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:09.559 they ended up making twelve dollars an hour instead of 924 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.599 the normal sixteen, which was the previous prevailing wage, but 925 00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:16.400 they got all kinds of benefits provided by the state, 926 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:22.480 for example housing assistants and even assistants getting cars and 927 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:26.199 driver's licenses, and they never driven cars before, so there 928 00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:29.039 were a bunch of accidents and they really just destroyed 929 00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.199 the identity of the town. And it wasn't just these 930 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:37.039 immigrants doing it. It was skilled lawyers who crafted this 931 00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:39.639 and saw a way to make this all work where 932 00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.760 the employer was benefiting and the lawyers were benefiting, and 933 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.400 the immigrants were getting to live in this town and 934 00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:51.599 they were their critical mass. They're like, you know, a 935 00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:55.320 big block. Now, they're not scattered all over the country individually, 936 00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:58.039 but they're like their own community in this town. Now 937 00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.079 that didn't have to be that way, and they just 938 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.760 don't belong there. I know that sounds bad, but not really. 939 00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.000 You know, some segregation in the world is okay. The 940 00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:11.000 world started out segregated, and you know, some blending should 941 00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:14.159 happen on its own pace. It shouldn't be you know, 942 00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.239 done by people deliberately stirring the pot almost literally in 943 00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:20.880 terms of you know, reacting people together like this. 944 00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:24.559 No doubt, And I'm not even for segregation. What I 945 00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:27.440 am saying is that a Haitian that comes to America 946 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.159 legally gets here and does what they can and makes 947 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:33.440 a life for themselves. You notice they typically they hit 948 00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:36.400 the ground running. They don't take a job making twelve 949 00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.719 dollars an hour. If they do, it's very temporary, so 950 00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:41.360 that they can go to college and get a better life. 951 00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:43.679 Going for themselves and then they end up killing it 952 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:45.679 in the financial sector or whatever the case may be. 953 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:48.679 A lot of foreign nationals that come here the right way, 954 00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:52.119 they don't come here and squander the opportunity. Then you 955 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.000 have those that do. And there's a pretty hard dividing 956 00:51:55.039 --> 00:51:56.440 line between these, you know what I mean. 957 00:51:57.039 --> 00:51:58.559 Yeah, And I know what I said. It might have 958 00:51:58.599 --> 00:52:01.559 sounded harsh, but I have an aunt who's Haitian and 959 00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:06.280 she's great. And here's let's imagine the roles were reversed. 960 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:09.760 Let's say that there were like a million white Americans 961 00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.079 who moved down to Haiti and basically colonized it. The 962 00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.920 left would be saying, that's colonization, that's colonialism. You can't 963 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:18.519 do that, and they would kind of be right, we 964 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:23.000 don't really belong there if that's their country, And you know, 965 00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:26.000 lasts of numbers of them don't belong in Springfield, Ohio either, 966 00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:26.880 That's all I'm saying. 967 00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:28.119 Yeah, And that's another thing. 968 00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:29.880 When they get here, they pretty much just have to 969 00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.719 file for a driver's license and they get it. That's 970 00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.159 scary to me because when I was living in DC, 971 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:36.880 I got ran off the road. 972 00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.039 I was the vice president of a motorcycle club. 973 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:41.480 While I was up there, I literally went down because 974 00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:45.119 an Ethiopian ran me off the road. DC is surrounded 975 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:48.840 by Ethiopians and Samerians, dude, and they're very proud about that. 976 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.559 They have Ethiopian pride bumper stickers. I don't know why 977 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.159 someone would be proud as yeah, yeah, I. 978 00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.920 Say Samarrians, but I mean Somalians. 979 00:52:57.239 --> 00:52:59.480 Although there's a lot of there's a lot of Arab 980 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.039 fluence surrounding Washington, DC on all sides. I'm not even 981 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:06.239 saying that on some sort of like uh, yeah, they're 982 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:06.760 all sleep or. 983 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:08.840 Sells, waiting on the call from the mother country. 984 00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.280 That might be the case, but like taking that down 985 00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:14.159 a couple of notches, Okay, fine, when they get here, 986 00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:18.639 they all work for taxi companies, probably never actually operating 987 00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.159 a motor vehicle in their home country. And I still 988 00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:22.960 to this day to understand why somebody would have an 989 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:25.880 Ethiopian pride bumper sticker. You're proud to be from a 990 00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.639 country where you're known for starving your people, Like that 991 00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:31.960 blows my mind. And then before I left, they opened 992 00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.960 an Ethiopian restaurant, Like I have no idea what the 993 00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.159 fuck they served their hopes and dreams, I guess, but 994 00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:40.880 like whatever, I wanted to go there before, like I left, 995 00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.760 but like driving by the place, the smell would hit 996 00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.280 you and I was just like, whatever they're cooking, I 997 00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:47.559 actually don't want any part of that. 998 00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:47.960 Now. 999 00:53:48.119 --> 00:53:49.719 I'm sure there's some people that get down with it. 1000 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:52.559 It's same with like Indian food. Some people love that. 1001 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:54.000 I don't have the palette for it. 1002 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:54.679 It's not for me. 1003 00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:58.320 Whatever the Ethiopians were cooking bag there, I wanted no 1004 00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.400 part of it. Beside the point, Yeah, they're surrounded by this, 1005 00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:04.800 and then you see all of these taxis, Like every 1006 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.159 day there's a new wreck, and it's always a foreigner 1007 00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:10.840 who is driving, and it's like, bro, where'd you get 1008 00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.000 your driver's at the back of a cereal box? I 1009 00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:16.960 mean pretty much pretty much. So I mean again, I'm 1010 00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:20.199 not saying that that is the case for the Central 1011 00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.480 American migrants that are making their way here. Most of them, 1012 00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.239 I hope, have operated some sort of a motor vehicle 1013 00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.800 in their life before. Cool, but yeah, when they get here, 1014 00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:33.159 they kind of they colonize certain areas. And I do 1015 00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:37.079 use that term for what it actually means. Certain political 1016 00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.599 parties will make sure that they go to certain cities 1017 00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:42.559 or to certain states, and then they're pushing to have 1018 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.280 these voter rights given to them without any kind of 1019 00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.559 actual identification needed to be shown. And then they wonder 1020 00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:53.079 why certain states are swayed in these political elections. And 1021 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:56.079 I mean, it's like a compounding problem. It's not just 1022 00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:59.239 the elections. It's not just the infrastructure issues. It's not 1023 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:01.320 just the housing. It's not just the. 1024 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.079 Welfare and the wick and all this. 1025 00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:06.719 It is the combination of all of those to where 1026 00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:08.639 like at a certain point, y'all, I'm with you for 1027 00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:11.360 the due process, and I'm with you with the empathy 1028 00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:14.119 and the sympathy for people that are coming here who 1029 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:17.360 left a horrible situation in their homeland. I get it, 1030 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:21.280 hearts and thoughts and prayers, all the things. But at 1031 00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:24.519 what point do we decide enough's enough? And yes, that's 1032 00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:28.480 not a comfortable transition to make that change, but it's 1033 00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.119 one that I would say we desperately have been needing 1034 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:36.559 for years years, Like illegals have been making their way 1035 00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.639 across the border for decades. This is nothing new, but 1036 00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:43.760 it became a real, real systemic problem within the last 1037 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.320 I would just say two decades. We could. We could 1038 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:51.639 argue the early nineties, but even still in the early nineties, 1039 00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.960 Ellian Gonzalez, when he got here, Clinton signed off on 1040 00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:59.280 SWAT teams raiding the family home and ripping this nine 1041 00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:01.679 year old out of a closet to send him back 1042 00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:02.880 to Communist Cuba. 1043 00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:04.639 His parents died in the crossing. 1044 00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:09.000 Somehow, that same political party is now the same political 1045 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.519 party that AOC is over here trying to give people 1046 00:56:11.559 --> 00:56:17.159 the keys to staying here illegally. There's a weird shift 1047 00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:19.159 that has happened here in the last few decades, y'all. 1048 00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.239 I just yeah, And again, I'm not saying that these 1049 00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:26.639 people are subhuman and are not capable or deserving of 1050 00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:28.079 basic human rights. 1051 00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:29.000 Of course they are. 1052 00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:33.239 We shouldn't treat them like animals, but we also have 1053 00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:35.559 to kick them out in some way, shape or form. 1054 00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:38.599 If when I was working on a construction site, on 1055 00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:42.880 a live unit at Shell, for instance, if someone was 1056 00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:46.880 on site without their proper identification, they could be arrested. 1057 00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.199 Is that wrong? They're a free inhabitant of America. What 1058 00:56:51.239 --> 00:56:53.159 do you mean they can't be on this American land? 1059 00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:56.079 Yeah, except that's privately owned and you can't be there 1060 00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:58.480 without your twig and without your card and all these things. 1061 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.199 Same with this. I understand that it's just a patch 1062 00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:03.480 of dirt, but it's the American patch of dirt. And 1063 00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:06.320 if you don't have American credentials or some sort of 1064 00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:09.880 authorization to be here, you see what I mean. 1065 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:11.480 It's just the way it. 1066 00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:16.079 Is, something like quadrupled under Biden too. They know what 1067 00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:18.400 they're doing. They know they're getting a new population in 1068 00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:20.639 here that's going to vote for them, and they don't 1069 00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:23.679 care if that disrupts the amount of philia in our 1070 00:57:23.719 --> 00:57:26.840 society that actually holds us together. It's more about just 1071 00:57:27.559 --> 00:57:32.360 getting new voters, getting temporary economic output, and you know, 1072 00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:35.960 appeasing certain special interest groups. That's all they really care about. 1073 00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:39.800 I have no problem with migrants, especially those from Latin America. 1074 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:44.199 Their food is the best ever, their music, their culture, 1075 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:44.960 all of these things. 1076 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:48.159 You ever had an authentic street taco bro probably seen 1077 00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:48.559 that meme? 1078 00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:52.760 I mean, it's true. Have you ever had authentic by Soley? 1079 00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:52.840 Know? 1080 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:55.079 That's some life changing shit right there. But at the 1081 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:56.079 same time. 1082 00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:01.280 I make do you yeah? Every several times. 1083 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:03.480 I gotta say Miss Maria back where I used to work, 1084 00:58:03.519 --> 00:58:05.440 she would come in with the tamales once every couple 1085 00:58:05.519 --> 00:58:07.639 of weeks, and I would buy a dozen off of 1086 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.559 hers so fast. They were so good and so spicy, 1087 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.840 and they would hurt me, but it was a hurting 1088 00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:16.679 of love, if you will. But my point is, you can't. 1089 00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:20.000 You can't do that to this mass. If everybody comes 1090 00:58:20.039 --> 00:58:23.360 here legally, then I have no problems. America is, if 1091 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.639 nothing else, a melting pot. Okay, I have no problems 1092 00:58:26.679 --> 00:58:31.239 with America not being so white anymore. Okay, fine, If 1093 00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:33.079 that is the way that the times are shifting, then 1094 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:34.360 that's the way the times are shifting. 1095 00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:35.320 I'm good with it. 1096 00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:39.320 But we cannot have it on this scale illegally, because 1097 00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:43.639 whenever we do this. I had an economics professor that 1098 00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:45.480 was actually showing this example. He had a bunch of 1099 00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:49.440 jars with gumballs, and he was essentially showing whenever the 1100 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.039 jar is at this capacity, it only has enough room 1101 00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:54.159 for so many gumballs, and it could fit things the 1102 00:58:54.239 --> 00:58:56.440 right way, and if you're trying to fit more gumballs in, 1103 00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:57.559 we have to go for a bigger jar. 1104 00:58:57.599 --> 00:58:59.599 So we got a bigger jar, and things progress and 1105 00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:00.599 progress and progressed. 1106 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.480 But the problem is if you're adding one at a time, 1107 00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:05.400 or two at a time, or whatever the case is, 1108 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.519 the jar is able to hold that. Whenever you dump 1109 00:59:08.679 --> 00:59:12.199 a five gallon bucket of gumballs into this jar, it's 1110 00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:15.480 never going to work efficiently. It's not going to happen. 1111 00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.400 That is currently what's going on. Our infrastructure is not 1112 00:59:19.519 --> 00:59:23.840 designed to hold this many migrants at this capacity, at 1113 00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:26.719 this rate, so we have to do something to stop it. 1114 00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:29.000 The dose situation is another. 1115 00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:31.719 Example of this. It's an uncomfortable shift for a lot 1116 00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:34.599 of people, right, a lot of politicians anyway, and they 1117 00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:36.960 see it as too many changes, too fast, and what's 1118 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:38.280 the ramifications and what's this? 1119 00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:40.000 And I get it. I get it. 1120 00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:43.039 But at the same time, if drastic changes don't happen now, 1121 00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:46.079 we will not have the ability to make these changes 1122 00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:46.760 in the future. 1123 00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:49.880 That's the math be math in on this. 1124 00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:53.800 But I do agree with you, Anthony, that it seems 1125 00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:55.960 to be a lot in a very short amount of time, 1126 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:59.719 too much, too fast. Some might say, However, for my 1127 00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:02.920 own for my own math and my own economy and 1128 01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:07.159 my own personal opinions on it, I feel like it's 1129 01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:12.440 actually long overdue. So I mean, you know, this newsweek 1130 01:00:12.519 --> 01:00:16.599 article continues to say, many organizations, including the ACLU, immigrant 1131 01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.920 rights groups, and legal aid societies routinely conduct know your 1132 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.320 Rights training to help migrants understand their legal rights. As 1133 01:00:23.320 --> 01:00:27.079 long as these sessions do not involve harboring undocumented individuals 1134 01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:30.920 or obstructing law enforcement operations, they are entirely legal. Now, 1135 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:34.119 I'm very curious what she said on this hour long 1136 01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:41.559 Facebook seminar thing that wouldn't have been involving harboring undocumented 1137 01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:45.239 individuals or obstructing law enforcement operations, because I feel like 1138 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.079 that was kind of the main talking points of what 1139 01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:49.320 she was going for. I could be so wrong here, 1140 01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.960 I don't know. Experts note that while sharing general information 1141 01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:57.440 is lawful, actively advising individuals to evade law enforcement could 1142 01:00:57.480 --> 01:00:59.480 potentially raise legal concerns. 1143 01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:02.679 Yeah, I would agree with that. 1144 01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:06.519 The implications of alerting others to potential ice activity depend 1145 01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.559 on how the information is shared. According to Bennett Gershman, 1146 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:13.800 a professor at Pace University's Law School, free speech protections 1147 01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:19.119 allow residents to discuss law enforcement in their neighborhoods. Residents 1148 01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.760 to discuss law enforcement in their neighborhoods language that actively 1149 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:27.719 encourages evasion of authority could be constructed as obstruction of justice. 1150 01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:29.400 I agree with this, dude. 1151 01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.599 Gershman told Newsweek that's saying I hear that the Ice 1152 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:37.360 agents may be coming around is generally protected. Fair enough, right, 1153 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:39.719 little who do who the cops are in the neighborhood? 1154 01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:44.960 I get that, Okay, little heads up, little red flag. However, 1155 01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:49.159 he said, the words tips or warnings might readily be 1156 01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:52.320 seen as an obstruction of justice and make the tipster 1157 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:56.199 subject to criminal liability. I suppose saying something more generally 1158 01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:59.159 like quote, I hear the Ice agents may be coming 1159 01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:02.800 around our neighborhood soon or something like that doesn't sound 1160 01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:06.119 like a warning or a tip. That might be more defensible, 1161 01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:10.000 even though the person speaking might mean it as a warning. Okay, 1162 01:02:10.039 --> 01:02:12.400 So they're talking about what you can say that will 1163 01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:18.519 legally skirt the legal precedence here, and which terms will 1164 01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:21.400 absolutely be like, Hey, there's gonna be is Satan's doing 1165 01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.719 a raid on this location at this time and this date. Yeah, 1166 01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:25.800 that might be a little different. 1167 01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:26.039 Right. 1168 01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:29.639 In any case, there is the frightening possibility that people 1169 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:32.760 thinking they're doing the right thing and the humanitarian thing 1170 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.519 in trying to protect friends and neighbors from getting arrested 1171 01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:39.880 might themselves wind up in jail. So, I mean, you know, 1172 01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:45.239 we're talking nonviolent crimes here. Let's say hypothetically, you have 1173 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:48.800 a neighbor that's running a trap house next door, throwing 1174 01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:51.039 it out here, and you know for sure that it's 1175 01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:54.119 a trap house. There's no gun shots going off, and 1176 01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:56.400 somehow it's a safe trap house and you never even 1177 01:02:56.440 --> 01:03:00.400 see robberies happening or anything like that. But you got 1178 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:02.639 a friend who's a cop, and he lets you know, Hey, 1179 01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:04.880 by the way, if you see our cars outside tomorrow, 1180 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.000 don't worry, it's just us raiding your neighbor. We know 1181 01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:10.239 it's a trap house. You going and alerting your neighbor 1182 01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:12.760 that they're about to raid his home? Are you being 1183 01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:16.559 a homie about it? For sure, no doubt, okay. But 1184 01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:21.039 also if you do that, you might be criminally liable 1185 01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:23.880 for obstructing justice. And I mean, like, if you're going 1186 01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:26.960 to be a homie like that, be prepared to face 1187 01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.360 the consequences for that. And I mean, that's cool if 1188 01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:30.920 that's the route that you want to go with it. 1189 01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:33.559 But at the same time that, I mean, the cops 1190 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:35.840 shouldn't tip you off. That's why these operations go down 1191 01:03:35.880 --> 01:03:38.880 the way they do. But yeah, that's that would be 1192 01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:40.880 kind of the legal precedence for this type of situation. 1193 01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:41.440 Am I wrong? 1194 01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:44.360 Yeah? This reminds me of two two things. This reminds 1195 01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:47.039 me of how sometimes cops have pulled over people who 1196 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:49.719 flash their brights or honk their horns to alert others 1197 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:52.920 to speed traps. Yeah, that's kind of been challenge. But 1198 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:57.320 this also reminds me of the Sovereign Citizen movement advising 1199 01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:58.480 people to break the law. 1200 01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.360 Dude, I'm gonna be honest with you, I've been doing 1201 01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:05.840 so much research into that group because of the episode 1202 01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:11.000 that we're about to shoot about it. I don't I 1203 01:04:11.039 --> 01:04:13.639 am not happy with the things that I have found 1204 01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:18.079 about this soft Set movement, because I don't want it 1205 01:04:18.119 --> 01:04:22.000 to come across like I am being demeaning to people 1206 01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:27.119 who support that movement or anything. What I'll say is 1207 01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:31.760 that you can't look at that movement without finding it's 1208 01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:38.800 really really disgusting past and the people who founded it, 1209 01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:43.719 the people that promoted its ideals, and certain things like 1210 01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:47.960 the straw Man for instance, that whole thing it was 1211 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:50.880 created by a neo Nazi, and that's not even like 1212 01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:54.679 a joke like he was associated with multiple white supremacist groups. 1213 01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:57.599 Then no, man, I don't want to give away too much. 1214 01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:00.800 He went to jail and pretty much was telling minority 1215 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.760 groups about it, hoping to get them arrested for breaking 1216 01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:05.880 the law because he knew that this was illegal from 1217 01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:09.880 the beginning. And it's we're gonna talk about it on 1218 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:11.679 the episode on the Culture Conspiracy. 1219 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:12.760 It's it's wild. 1220 01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:14.760 But I will say, doing the research for it, I 1221 01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:17.679 feel like I've actually lost brain cells and IQ points 1222 01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:21.559 through it. It's it's a it's a whole thing. It's 1223 01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:27.840 a whole thing. But yeah, anyway, what people are saying, uh, 1224 01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:32.639 Genia Blasser blass A, I don't know of Immigrant Defense 1225 01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:35.719 Project already off to a great start here, says quote. 1226 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:38.679 Just because someone ends up on ICE radar and ICE 1227 01:05:38.760 --> 01:05:41.559 believes that they can deport someone, it doesn't mean that 1228 01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:44.199 under the law the person can be deported or that 1229 01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:47.199 they don't have the option to fight their case to remain. 1230 01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:52.559 In the US. Okay, they do have the ability to 1231 01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:55.840 fight their case. I just have a hard time. 1232 01:05:55.719 --> 01:05:57.960 Believing it's gonna go the way they think it's gonna go. 1233 01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:00.960 But I you know, everybody does their day in court, 1234 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:05.599 and if you're caught breaking the law or being here illegally, sure, 1235 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:08.760 should we put this person in jail and then wait 1236 01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:12.440 time months, possibly years before they're seen by a judge 1237 01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:17.239 to hear every single case to see if you know 1238 01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:20.039 this person has a real reason to be here. If 1239 01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:24.480 they don't, sure, that's fine. Our prison population is already 1240 01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:28.639 really overpopulated right now. I don't think that we have 1241 01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:31.960 the proper facilities for that, big man, I don't know. 1242 01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:35.960 It seems like that would be more wasteful spending of 1243 01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:39.039 tax dollars to try to house people in prison cells, 1244 01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:41.880 which will only make prison gangs get even more dangerous 1245 01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:46.000 and more deadly. Yeah, I just I can't see that 1246 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:50.000 working out positively. I see the net positive and best 1247 01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:56.679 option available would just be mass deportations rather than mass incarcerations. Otherwise, 1248 01:06:56.719 --> 01:06:59.880 we're gonna have to start building whole new jails, which 1249 01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:03.719 at that point be more like concentration camps to properly 1250 01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:08.800 house the illegal undocumented migrants until they get their day 1251 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:12.719 in court. That's just gonna cost more money and more 1252 01:07:12.760 --> 01:07:16.320 time and more resources. I don't I don't see that 1253 01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:20.800 as a net positive. Even though she continues, and even 1254 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:23.400 if during an encounter with eyes, what they're doing doesn't 1255 01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.559 feel legal or it doesn't feel fair, it's important to 1256 01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:29.639 know that everyone has rights during their encounters with ice. Yes, 1257 01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:31.960 basic human rights. I agree, Like, you can't just kill 1258 01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:34.559 them on site because they're here illegally. That's not kosher, 1259 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:35.239 that's not cool. 1260 01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:36.039 Uh. 1261 01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:39.800 Blaster says, everyone has rights regardless of their immigration status 1262 01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:44.159 in the United States. Again, the basic human rights for sure, 1263 01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:45.960 for sure, But that doesn't mean they have the right 1264 01:07:46.039 --> 01:07:49.679 to a fair and speedy you know, jury or court 1265 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:53.159 or it's I don't know. I'm not a lawyer, so 1266 01:07:53.239 --> 01:07:56.280 I don't know where exactly the legal law or the 1267 01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:59.760 legal lines fall on this. I do know that mass 1268 01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:03.320 deportation seems to be the best viable option we currently have. 1269 01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:05.119 What happens next. 1270 01:08:05.119 --> 01:08:07.920 The dj has not yet commented on whether it will 1271 01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:12.559 investigate AOC's webinar, but legal experts widely agree that know 1272 01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:16.960 your Rights sessions are not illegal. Given the constitutional protections 1273 01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.079 for free speech and legal education, any potential case against 1274 01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:24.359 AOC would likely face significance legal hurdles. The DOJ does 1275 01:08:24.479 --> 01:08:28.880 process with an investigation or excuse me, does proceed with 1276 01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:33.680 an investigation, it would need to establish that her webinar 1277 01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:38.279 actively obstructed ICE operations rather than merely provided information. This 1278 01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:41.479 would be difficult, a difficult threshold to meet, given long 1279 01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:46.520 standing legal precedents protecting the rights to share legal knowledge. Well, 1280 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:53.239 and apparently this on the meter was read as unfair 1281 01:08:53.359 --> 01:09:00.079 left leaning. Okay, that's the general rating of the Newsweek article, which, okay, 1282 01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:01.439 that kind of checks out as. 1283 01:09:01.359 --> 01:09:04.920 Far as Newsweek is concerned. So fair enough. 1284 01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:10.720 Ah, it's a dirty, dirty topic. I get that. But man, 1285 01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:14.640 oh man, oh man, I see Roy said some politicians 1286 01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:17.600 are pushing forward. Apparently Raven Lee chimed in and said, 1287 01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:20.359 I didn't know this about this factory in Colombia. We've 1288 01:09:20.399 --> 01:09:23.159 talked a lot about mosquitos, but I just found out 1289 01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:24.199 that the biggest. 1290 01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:25.479 One is owned by Colombia. 1291 01:09:26.199 --> 01:09:29.800 Mosquitoes like a mosquito factory. 1292 01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:34.039 Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have to talk about that one now. 1293 01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:36.640 As we're talking about Central America and some of the 1294 01:09:36.640 --> 01:09:39.560 wild things that are going down there. Alda the best 1295 01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:42.479 of the American multicultural and Latino experience. 1296 01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:44.119 There's a picture of Bill Gates. 1297 01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:46.159 With a Mosquitos So we are already off to a 1298 01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.640 great start on this one, Bill Gates, a mosquito factory 1299 01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:52.479 in Colombia and its contribution to health. 1300 01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:55.479 Oh sweet Jesus. 1301 01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:58.880 The mosquito farm and Mediinees supported by the Bill Molina 1302 01:09:58.880 --> 01:10:02.319 Gates Foundation, rep in a significant breakthrough in the fight 1303 01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:09.560 against mosquito born Oh oh god, okay, I can already 1304 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:11.239 tell this is going to be a bit of a doozy. 1305 01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:15.880 Innovative mosquito farm and mediine an ally against dingay and 1306 01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.760 other diseases. In twenty twenty four, Mediine Colombia positioned itself 1307 01:10:19.800 --> 01:10:22.439 as a global leader in the fight against mosquito born diseases. 1308 01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:25.279 An innovative mosquito farm supported by the Bill Milinda Gates 1309 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:28.800 Foundation and part of the World Mosquito Program WMP. 1310 01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:31.039 I actually never heard of that before. 1311 01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:34.760 Produces approximately thirty million eighties at im sure. Oh yeah, 1312 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:36.880 that's a word. I'm not gonna say, mosquitoes per week. 1313 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:40.720 But these are not ordinary mosquitoes. They carry a revolutionary 1314 01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:49.239 solution to combat dingay, zeka, chickaguna, and yellow fever. Oh god, 1315 01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:53.520 So now we have mosquitoes that are now carrying anecdotes 1316 01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:58.199 or antidotes for viruses and for sicknesses instead of spreading 1317 01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:00.960 these things. What they're going to cure them? Let's let's 1318 01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:04.800 just read on here the challenge of mosquito born diseases. 1319 01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:10.760 The agypty mosquitoes is the primary vector for these viral diseases, 1320 01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:14.560 which affect millions in the tropical and subtropical regions and 1321 01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:18.520 Medine Dingay outbreaks in twenty ten and twenty sixteen impacted 1322 01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:22.359 over thirty five thousand people, highlighting the urgent need for 1323 01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:26.560 innovative and effective solution. The World Mosquito Program Strategy the 1324 01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:31.119 WMP strategy in is both ingenious and natural. 1325 01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:34.439 I already find faults in that statement, but let's go 1326 01:11:34.479 --> 01:11:34.800 on here. 1327 01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:42.560 Infect mosquitoes with the Waalbakia Wallbacchia bacteria okay, Wallbachia, which 1328 01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:46.239 occurs naturally in many insects but not in the eighties agyptie. 1329 01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:51.720 The bacterium reduces the mosquito's ability to transmit viruses to humans. 1330 01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.880 By releasing Wallbachia infected mosquitoes into the environment, they mate 1331 01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:59.680 with local populations, spreading the bacteria dramatically reducing the diseases 1332 01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:03.880 trans mission. Since the implementation in twenty seventeen, the project 1333 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:08.279 has achieved a ninety ninety seven percent reduction in the 1334 01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:14.880 incidence of dingay in Theboro Valley. These results position Mediine 1335 01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:18.600 as an airnational model for applying this technique with unprecedented 1336 01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:22.279 success in Latin America. Now, let's talk about expanding the 1337 01:12:22.319 --> 01:12:27.199 project to Cali. Okay. In Cali, the Waalbakia method was 1338 01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:30.399 implemented in twenty twenty, benefiting over one point six million 1339 01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:35.239 residents in eighteen districts as of December in twenty twenty four. Currently, 1340 01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:39.399 the program's fourth phase continues releasing Wallbachia infective mosquitoes, further 1341 01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:43.960 consolidating its impact and reducing dingay, Zica and chicagunya. 1342 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:47.840 I hope. I'm saying that right benefits to this method. 1343 01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:52.239 One disease reduction significally reduces the virus transmission and protecting 1344 01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:57.680 protecting vulnerable communities. Number two. Environmental sustainability a natural biological 1345 01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:03.680 solution that avoids excess insecticide uses, preserving ecological balance. Number 1346 01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:08.520 Three Community engagement. Community acceptance and participation are essential to 1347 01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:14.399 the program's success, promoting education and civic commitment. Further perspectives. 1348 01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:17.439 The success in medi Eniancali has driven the expansion of 1349 01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:19.920 the wall Bakia method to other regions of Columbia and 1350 01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:24.039 Latin America. Through continuous evaluation and adaptation, the strategy aims 1351 01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:26.960 to improve its effectiveness and benefit millions of people in 1352 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:31.000 communities affected by these diseases. The mosquitoform mediine, supported by 1353 01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:34.760 the Bill and Milindigates Foundation, not only represents a scientific breakthrough, 1354 01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:37.560 but also a sustainable and effective model for the global 1355 01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:41.359 public health. By leveraging a natural biology of insects and 1356 01:13:41.439 --> 01:13:44.800 the power of international collaboration, this initiative is transforming the 1357 01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:48.000 fight against mosquito born diseases, improving the quality of life 1358 01:13:48.039 --> 01:13:52.359 for thousands of people in Colombia and beyond. Wow. 1359 01:13:53.439 --> 01:13:54.840 Now I know that I'm. 1360 01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:58.880 A conspiracy theorist, and so anything that Bill Malindigate's Foundation 1361 01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:01.760 is involved with typically just throw out a red flag, 1362 01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:06.439 just on natural instinct at this time, but especially whenever 1363 01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:08.720 this is the same guy that was talking about reducing 1364 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:12.640 the world's population by ten percent only a couple of 1365 01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:15.960 years ago, I have a hard time believing that he's 1366 01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:18.359 trying to save people's lives like this. 1367 01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:18.720 Yeah. 1368 01:14:18.720 --> 01:14:20.760 I know he does a lot of work with vaccines 1369 01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:23.520 and things like that, and he goes to India and 1370 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:25.479 he goes to Africa and he goes to these places. 1371 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:31.359 But genetically modifying mosquitoes, I just I don't know. Maybe 1372 01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:33.760 I'm just a little too old school in antiquated and 1373 01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:35.560 the way my brain works, but I. 1374 01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:36.319 Feel like. 1375 01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:40.159 I feel like that's just a recipe for bad things 1376 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:43.560 to happen next. I don't know, because I remember on 1377 01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:45.880 the Cult of Conspiracy we just did an episode. I 1378 01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:47.239 feel like it was a couple of weeks ago, but 1379 01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.119 it might have been longer where they were talking about 1380 01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:55.439 infecting mosquitoes with antidotes for viruses to where we don't 1381 01:14:55.479 --> 01:14:57.119 have to get people to go to the clinic to 1382 01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:01.119 get vaccinated. We could just vaccinate the mosquitos and through 1383 01:15:01.199 --> 01:15:05.600 natural processes, the mosquitos would vaccinate the inhabitants of the country. 1384 01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:10.279 And that sounds far fetched until you read that type 1385 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:13.399 of article where it's saying that they're already genetically modifying 1386 01:15:13.439 --> 01:15:17.760 mosquitos for other means. It doesn't seem that crazy and 1387 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:19.800 out of the realm of possibility that they would genetically 1388 01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:23.119 modify them for uh, you know, that's benevolent means, But 1389 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:27.359 how quickly could they genetically modify these insects for malicious means? 1390 01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:29.760 You know. I just I don't know. I have a 1391 01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:31.000 hard time trusting it. 1392 01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:35.880 Let's see here, let's go to the chat drunk Alexandra, 1393 01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:39.600 what's up, alex what's that in which you finally got 1394 01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:42.119 the sound to work? Lol? Alex are you gonna work 1395 01:15:42.159 --> 01:15:44.680 this evening? I couldn't tell because you I thought it 1396 01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:46.600 looked like you were at home. And I don't know, 1397 01:15:47.039 --> 01:15:49.000 but I'm happy as hell do you were able to 1398 01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:51.760 join us this evening. Appreciate you also, by the way 1399 01:15:51.800 --> 01:15:55.439 I went and listened to your band. I didn't read 1400 01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:58.600 the messages on Patreon yet. What is your position in 1401 01:15:58.640 --> 01:16:02.359 the band? Because if that's the vote, then Jesus, you 1402 01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:06.600 have a growl to you that is insane. But yeah, 1403 01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:08.680 I like y'all's music. I like your sound. 1404 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:11.960 Y'all. Have a good night, Anthony. I gotta get to bed. 1405 01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:15.159 See y'all on the next one, Anthony, as you're listening 1406 01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:16.960 to this, probably Thursday, to see all the rest of 1407 01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.199 the conversation went, Love you to death, brother, Glad you 1408 01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:20.880 could join us for this evening for as long as 1409 01:16:20.920 --> 01:16:25.600 you could. Happy whiskey Wednesday. I wish I was drinking whiskey, 1410 01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:28.640 but I cannot. I can't partake of the of the 1411 01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:31.640 juice anymore. The sauce. The sauce got a hold to 1412 01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:33.439 me bad at one point. I gotta I gotta stay 1413 01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:36.560 on the straight and narrow. Let's see, Zombie, this isn't 1414 01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:39.880 the only company they have their hands in about the mosquitoes. No, 1415 01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:43.319 I absolutely agree. I know they've been doing work in 1416 01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:47.359 India and all over Africa for the same means. And actually, 1417 01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:49.600 as I bring up Africa, this is kind of a 1418 01:16:49.680 --> 01:16:52.640 nice little segue for us to talk about the wild 1419 01:16:52.720 --> 01:16:56.479 things that are going on in the continent of Africa 1420 01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:59.600 right now. Let's see here is this one? 1421 01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:02.640 No, in the one? Where's the one? Here we go. 1422 01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:05.319 This is a BBC article that's talking about what's going 1423 01:17:05.359 --> 01:17:08.760 down in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Not to 1424 01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:12.960 be confused with Congo. The Democratic Republic of the Congo 1425 01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:19.199 is a whole separate nation. And apparently Rwanda's military slash militia. 1426 01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:22.640 Forces from Rwanda have now invaded the dr of Congo 1427 01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:26.840 and it's wild things. As South Africa and Zimbabwe have 1428 01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:29.159 their own beef that they're squabbling over at this time. 1429 01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:32.279 Now we have things happening more in Central Africa and 1430 01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:33.479 it's pretty crazy. 1431 01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:33.680 Here. 1432 01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:37.800 Let's read in here the BBC article it's a wich 1433 01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:40.960 akin that the jokes right themselves. Here a BBC article 1434 01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:44.039 about fighting in Africa. I swear the jokes right themselves. 1435 01:17:44.600 --> 01:17:47.560 The mineral rich east of the Democratic Republic of the 1436 01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:51.680 Congo has been dodged by dogged, dogged by conflict for 1437 01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:55.640 more than thirty years. Since the nineteen ninety four Rwandan genocide, 1438 01:17:56.359 --> 01:17:59.319 numerous armed groups have competed with the central authorities for 1439 01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:01.960 power and control of the potential fortune. 1440 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:05.760 In this vast nation, the in state La La. 1441 01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:09.600 The instability has sucked the neighboring countries to devastating effect, 1442 01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:13.600 notoriously in the nineteen nineties, when two huge conflicts dubbed 1443 01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:17.560 Africa's World Wars, resulted in the deaths of millions of people. 1444 01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:19.800 What is happening at the moment. 1445 01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:23.199 After a rapid advance of the in the east, fighters 1446 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:25.039 from the M twenty three rebel group that would be 1447 01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:27.479 the one based out of Rwanda have captured a number 1448 01:18:27.479 --> 01:18:30.439 of key cities and towns. Their first major coup was 1449 01:18:30.439 --> 01:18:33.319 at the end of January taking This with the taking 1450 01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:36.359 of Goma, a city in the North Kivu province that 1451 01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:38.800 is home to more than a million people, sitting on 1452 01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.680 the border with Rwanda and the shores of Lake Kivu. 1453 01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:45.319 Goma is a vital trading and transport hub that is 1454 01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:48.720 within reach of mining towns, supplying metals and minerals in 1455 01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:52.479 high demand. When the rebels took over Goma, UNAID agencies 1456 01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:55.680 warned of a major humanitarian crisis, with shortages of food 1457 01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:00.359 and water, hospitals overwhelmed by casualties, and bodies lie on 1458 01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:04.000 the streets. M twenty three have also seized another key 1459 01:19:04.039 --> 01:19:08.159 city in the region, South Kivu provincial capital, Bakavu I 1460 01:19:08.159 --> 01:19:10.800 Hope or Bukavu I hope. I'm pronouncing these right. My 1461 01:19:10.880 --> 01:19:13.319 apologies to any of our African listeners. I'm not trying 1462 01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:17.880 to disrespect I just I speak with American dialects and 1463 01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:21.840 sounds of vowelsand things. Other locations now under N twenty 1464 01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:27.520 three controled include Masisi, ruth Shiu, and Katali. The rebels 1465 01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:31.560 previously threatened to continue their offensive to the capitol Kinshasa, 1466 01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:36.399 although analysts say this may be unlikely as the city 1467 01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.880 is twenty six hundred kilometers or sixteen hundred miles away. 1468 01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:42.520 On the other side of this vast country. Now, who 1469 01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.359 are the M twenty three. Now, this is where things 1470 01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:47.079 get a little interesting here, because if we look at 1471 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:49.560 what happened with the Rwandan genocide in which groups suffered 1472 01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:52.079 the biggest casualties at the hands of the other group 1473 01:19:53.239 --> 01:19:55.680 gets a little crazy here. The M twenty three are 1474 01:19:55.720 --> 01:19:58.880 led by ethnic Tutsis who say they needed to take 1475 01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:02.199 up arms to protect them and the rights of as 1476 01:20:02.279 --> 01:20:05.039 the right of Jesus need to take up arms to 1477 01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:07.359 protect the rights of the minority group. The Tutsis are 1478 01:20:07.359 --> 01:20:12.399 absolutely the minority in Rwanda. That's why the Hutus slaughtered. 1479 01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:15.399 As of now, the count is somewhere around eight hundred 1480 01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:18.840 thousand in one mass casualty event. But I mean, who 1481 01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:21.199 really knows what the true death toll of the Rwanda 1482 01:20:21.239 --> 01:20:25.640 genocide really is. They say that several previous deals to 1483 01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:28.199 end the fighting have not been respected. They take their 1484 01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:30.600 name from a peace agreement that was signed on the 1485 01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:33.279 twenty third of March in two thousand and nine. Shortly 1486 01:20:33.319 --> 01:20:36.560 after its creation in twenty twelve, the M twenty three 1487 01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:40.199 rapidly gained territory and seized Goma, acts that were met 1488 01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:45.800 with international opprobrium and accusations of war crimes and human 1489 01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:48.880 rights violations. It was forced to withdraw from Goma and 1490 01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:51.079 then suffered a series of heavy defeats at the hands 1491 01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:54.079 of the Conglese Army with a UN force that saw 1492 01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:57.880 it expelled from the country. M twenty three fighters then 1493 01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.760 agreed to be integrated into the Arms ME in return 1494 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:04.640 for promises that the Tutsis would be protected, but in 1495 01:21:04.720 --> 01:21:06.880 twenty twenty one the group took up arms again, saying 1496 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:08.479 the promises had been broken. 1497 01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:12.039 In rwan is Rwanda involved in the fighting. 1498 01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:16.640 The M twenty three leader, Sultani Mkinga, is a Congolese 1499 01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:18.760 Tutsi who previously. 1500 01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:19.920 Fought in the Rwandan Army. 1501 01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:24.319 Rwanda in the past has consistently denied that it supported 1502 01:21:24.520 --> 01:21:27.079 the M twenty three, but ever since twenty twelve, the 1503 01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:30.760 UN experts have accused it of providing weapons, logistical support, 1504 01:21:30.800 --> 01:21:35.159 and even ultimately commanding the rebels. Dr Congo's government, as 1505 01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:38.479 well as the US and France, have also identified Rwanda 1506 01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:41.800 as backing the group. Last year, a UN expert report 1507 01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:45.239 the experts report that said that up to four thousand 1508 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:50.119 Rwandan troops were fighting alongside the M twenty three. On Friday, 1509 01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:54.279 Rwandan government spokesperson Yalandi Macolo told the BBC that the 1510 01:21:54.319 --> 01:21:56.680 country's troops are deployed along its border to prevent the 1511 01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:00.399 conflict from spilling over to its territories. Rwanda PRIs obviously 1512 01:22:00.399 --> 01:22:03.399 said that it had been skateegoaded and blamed the recent 1513 01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:06.279 fighting on the Congolese authorities, saying that they had refused 1514 01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:09.199 to enter into a dialogue with m twenty three. A 1515 01:22:09.239 --> 01:22:13.560 peace process mediated by Angola in involving Rwanda and the 1516 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:17.439 Democratic of the Congo did result in a ceasefire deal 1517 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:20.439 last year. However, that soon fell apart and fighting resumed. 1518 01:22:20.840 --> 01:22:24.279 So what is the connection with Rwanda. The origin of 1519 01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:26.399 the current fight can partially be traced back to the 1520 01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:29.560 genocide of Rwanda in nineteen ninety four about oh, well 1521 01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:30.000 there it is. 1522 01:22:30.159 --> 01:22:32.079 About eight hundred thousand people, the vast. 1523 01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:35.159 Majority of from the Tutsi community, were slaughtered by ethnic 1524 01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:38.359 Hutu extremists. The genocide ended with the advance of the 1525 01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:42.359 force of Tutsi led rebels commanded by Paul Kagame, who 1526 01:22:42.399 --> 01:22:46.159 is now president. Fearing reprisal, the estimated one million Hutus 1527 01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:48.479 fled across the border to what is now the Democratic 1528 01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.960 Republic of the Congo. This stoked ethnic tensions. As a 1529 01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:58.359 marginalized Tutsi group in the East, the Banya Mulingi sure 1530 01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:02.880 felt increasingly under threat. Rwanda's army twice invaded the Democratic 1531 01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:05.199 Republic of the Congo, saying it was going after some 1532 01:23:05.239 --> 01:23:08.000 of those responsible for the genocide, and worked with members 1533 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:15.119 of the Bonyamlingi, Banya Malingi and other armed groups. After 1534 01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:17.640 thirty years of conflict, one of the Hutu groups, the 1535 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:21.199 Democratic Force for the Liberation of Rwanda, or the FDLR, 1536 01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:24.439 which includes some of those responsible for the Rwandan genocide, 1537 01:23:24.479 --> 01:23:25.760 is still active in the. 1538 01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:27.439 Eastern Democratic Republica of the Congo. 1539 01:23:28.439 --> 01:23:33.479 Rwanda describes the FDLR as a quote genocidal militia end quote, 1540 01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:36.920 and says its continued existence in the Democratic Republic of 1541 01:23:36.920 --> 01:23:41.279 the Congo's east threatens its own territory. The Rwandan spokesperson 1542 01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:44.760 said they wanted to return to Rwanda to finish the job, 1543 01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:48.000 so that would be some of the tensions as to 1544 01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:50.079 why things are going the way they are. It accuses 1545 01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:53.319 the Congolese authorities of working with the FDLR accusations with 1546 01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.560 the dr Congo denies Rwanda is unlikely to stay out 1547 01:23:57.560 --> 01:24:00.319 of the dr Congo unless it is satisfied that the 1548 01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.039 FDLR is no longer a threat to itself or the 1549 01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:07.960 Tutsi communities in Eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo. Now 1550 01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.239 we get into kind of the money side of things, 1551 01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:13.159 because when any kind of big conflict happens, you. 1552 01:24:13.119 --> 01:24:14.640 Do, in fact need to follow the money. 1553 01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:19.399 What about the Congo's of mineral wealth, which is a big, 1554 01:24:20.039 --> 01:24:23.199 big source of contention a lot within Africa. To be 1555 01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:25.920 honest with you, but this is kind of where things 1556 01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:28.039 get a little dicey. The Democratic Republic of the Congo 1557 01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:31.000 and multiple UN reports have accused Rwanda of using the 1558 01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:33.640 conflict as a way of looting Congolese minerals such as 1559 01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:37.079 gold and coulton, which is used to make mobile phones 1560 01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:41.319 and other electronic items such as cameras and inside cars. 1561 01:24:41.680 --> 01:24:43.760 In the recent years, the N twenty three has seized 1562 01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:47.039 several lucrative mining areas, and a report by the UN 1563 01:24:47.039 --> 01:24:49.560 experts last December said that around one hundred and twenty 1564 01:24:49.600 --> 01:24:53.279 tons of coulton were was being sent by the M 1565 01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:57.199 twenty three to Rwanda every four weeks. One hundred and 1566 01:24:57.199 --> 01:24:59.760 twenty tons and I believe in that case it would 1567 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:02.439 be metric tons, not regular tons. Maybe that's why they 1568 01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:05.000 spell it that way. Maybe it's because the BBC article 1569 01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:07.560 and they spell words with weird letters sometimes, I don't know. 1570 01:25:08.359 --> 01:25:11.319 They also noted a huge rise in Rwanda's mineral exports 1571 01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:13.439 in recent years, most of which is believed to come 1572 01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:17.079 from the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Rwanda has consistently 1573 01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:21.600 denied allegations of exploiting dr Congo's minerals. At the same time, 1574 01:25:22.319 --> 01:25:25.520 you can't deny that these minds were taken over by 1575 01:25:25.560 --> 01:25:28.319 the way those minds were being worked by slave labor. 1576 01:25:28.640 --> 01:25:30.199 Not even a joke, that's just the way it is. 1577 01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:34.239 And now Rwandan militia groups have control over them and 1578 01:25:34.279 --> 01:25:40.119 are sending the you know, the uh, the goods back 1579 01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:42.079 to the home country. So I mean, at least it's 1580 01:25:42.119 --> 01:25:45.079 profiting the home turf in that regard, and that would 1581 01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:47.960 be why there's so much speculation on this. Now, what 1582 01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:51.479 are the UN peacekeepers doing about this situation? A UN 1583 01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:54.199 peacekeeping mission that has been in place since nineteen ninety nine. 1584 01:25:54.840 --> 01:25:58.600 The current force, known as MANUSCO, is made up of 1585 01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:01.399 more than ten thousand troops. However, of these only the 1586 01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:04.880 Force Intervention Brigade is allowed to carry out offensive operations 1587 01:26:04.920 --> 01:26:07.800 against armed groups. It was this force that helped defeat 1588 01:26:07.840 --> 01:26:11.319 the M twenty three in twenty thirteen. MANUSCO has been 1589 01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.439 the target of anger from ordinary Congolese. 1590 01:26:13.880 --> 01:26:16.600 Who see it as a failing to do its job. 1591 01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:22.000 President Felix the Shikadi, I think I'm saying that right, 1592 01:26:22.399 --> 01:26:25.279 deemed the mission a failure and has asked to leave 1593 01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:27.840 by the end of last year, but the departure was 1594 01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:30.680 delayed and in December the mission was extended for another year. 1595 01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:35.239 The South African Development Community, a regional group of sixteen countries, 1596 01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:39.479 has also deployed a military force to eastern dr Congo, 1597 01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:43.000 but it has been unable to halt the rebels. South 1598 01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:45.680 Africa has said that fourteen of its soldiers have died 1599 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:47.479 in the clashes with the M twenty three. 1600 01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:48.960 Soldiers from the likes. 1601 01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:54.680 Of Mala, Malawi and Tanzania have also been killed. The 1602 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:57.760 South African president warned Rwanda that further attacks on its 1603 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:01.119 troops would be considered a declaration of war. And again, 1604 01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:05.239 South Africa's kind of got its own jam right now. 1605 01:27:05.319 --> 01:27:07.920 So it just as always, it looks like Africa Africa 1606 01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:08.760 is popping off. 1607 01:27:09.039 --> 01:27:11.079 We have things popping off in Sudan, we have things 1608 01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:13.239 popping off in Mally, we have things popping off in 1609 01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:16.520 the Congo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and 1610 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:17.680 in Rwanda and. 1611 01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:21.039 In South Africa. It's it's just it's wild things, you know. 1612 01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:23.760 And Uh, to be honest with you, I wouldn't be 1613 01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:28.880 shocked if Africa becomes the new source of contention as 1614 01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:31.159 far as things go on the world stage. I know 1615 01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:32.760 I kind of read a lot there, But if any 1616 01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:34.800 of y'all have anything y'all would like to add into that, 1617 01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:35.560 please do so. 1618 01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:41.880 I just want to add that the Democratic Republic of 1619 01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:46.399 the Congo is a big country. Yeah, Rwanda is a 1620 01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:51.479 small country, very small. Kamala Harris would agree with that 1621 01:27:51.560 --> 01:27:57.319 assessment it and uh yeah that who too, Toots. You 1622 01:27:57.439 --> 01:28:01.279 think I've heard somewhere that Paulka got is a cia 1623 01:28:01.479 --> 01:28:04.199 AS set that I read years ago, but I can't 1624 01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:06.640 do justice to it right now. I don't know exactly 1625 01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:08.319 whose side I'm on it this whole thing. 1626 01:28:09.079 --> 01:28:11.479 That wouldn't shock me if he was, to be honest 1627 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:14.359 with you, I mean, how many of those coupes in 1628 01:28:14.479 --> 01:28:17.159 Africa through the sixties and the seventies and the eighties 1629 01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:22.239 and the nineties were being funded and perpetuated by outside forces. 1630 01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:26.560 I'm not going to necessarily say CIA or KGB or 1631 01:28:26.640 --> 01:28:29.439 Inner Pole or essay as a name it am I 1632 01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:32.119 sixth name your group, right, It doesn't matter at the 1633 01:28:32.199 --> 01:28:35.840 end of the day, which country has a reason to 1634 01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:38.000 have control over the minds there. 1635 01:28:39.159 --> 01:28:41.479 That's pretty much what it boils down to. As a 1636 01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:44.399 matter of fact. Shoot, now, I gotta search this up. 1637 01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:47.520 Have any of y'all seen the Netflix movie The Siege 1638 01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:48.199 at Jatte Bill? 1639 01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:50.479 Have not? 1640 01:28:51.359 --> 01:28:54.600 Oh? Man? It is a solid film and it is 1641 01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:57.359 all about uh yeah, yeah. It was the Congo crisis 1642 01:28:57.359 --> 01:29:00.960 from nineteen sixty to nineteen sixty four. Long story short, 1643 01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:05.520 We the UN, not we, but the UN sent in 1644 01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:09.960 a peacekeeping force comprised of Irish soldiers. Now, Ireland has 1645 01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:14.239 always been famously neutral in international conflicts, which is why 1646 01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:15.720 it was seen that it was a good idea to 1647 01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:19.039 send Irish troops to handle a UN peacekeeping operation. 1648 01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:21.479 There was also some Indian troops that were sent in. 1649 01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:23.279 India seems to always be in the mix when it 1650 01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:26.760 comes to things like this too. When they got there, 1651 01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:31.399 the Irish troops were set up in a small mining 1652 01:29:31.439 --> 01:29:35.560 town called Jaddettville or Jadoville. I don't know how the 1653 01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:40.039 locals pronounce it, but long story short, the uranium that 1654 01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:43.560 was used to create the United States atomic bombs in 1655 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:48.760 World War Two were mined from that very area. And 1656 01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:51.079 it's at the time they were trying to make Katongo, 1657 01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:53.399 which is an area of the Congo. They were trying 1658 01:29:53.439 --> 01:29:56.520 to get that to be seen as a recognized nation 1659 01:29:57.039 --> 01:29:59.920 by the UN. A war lord, it pretty much rose 1660 01:29:59.920 --> 01:30:03.159 to power. He was taking over and you know, doing 1661 01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:06.039 what warlords be doing to the local inhabitants. It wasn't 1662 01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:09.479 exactly a fun time for anybody, but he had backing, 1663 01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:14.199 and oddly enough, he had backing from the French Foreign 1664 01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:19.520 Legion and other commandos that were not exactly wearing uniforms, 1665 01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:24.000 but all happened to be speaking French. Meanwhile, the you 1666 01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:27.960 and peacekeeping Irish troops they set up shop and haled 1667 01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:32.279 out a siege at Jadetville, and for days they were 1668 01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:35.199 under siege and they were hooking in, jabbing and taking 1669 01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:37.560 down as many of these dudes as they could, to 1670 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:40.079 the point to where they literally had no more ammo 1671 01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:43.399 in any of their weapons left to fire and they 1672 01:30:43.479 --> 01:30:46.840 all got taken into custody that nobody. They did not 1673 01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:50.600 lose a single man in the operation. And then when 1674 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:54.479 they got home they were seen as cowards for surrendering 1675 01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:57.079 when they were only sent there for peacekeeping operations. These 1676 01:30:57.159 --> 01:31:00.800 dudes weren't like hardened combat vets. Ireland don't exactly have that. 1677 01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:04.199 These dudes just did what they could to stay alive 1678 01:31:04.319 --> 01:31:06.039 for a few days, and then when they finally had 1679 01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:10.880 no other sources or resources available, they surrendered. And then 1680 01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:14.279 they were almost tried when they got home for cowardice. 1681 01:31:15.159 --> 01:31:19.000 It's insane. Finally they were recognized in the early two thousands, 1682 01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:22.720 if I'm not mistaken, as actual being a valorous unit, 1683 01:31:22.840 --> 01:31:24.920 but for a long time it was like seen as 1684 01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:28.239 a badge of dishonor to be associated with them. They 1685 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:31.680 actually had a nickname called the Jattetville Jacks back in Ireland, 1686 01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:35.039 and they were ostracized and shit on by their local 1687 01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:36.479 It was horrible, but. 1688 01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:39.319 The area in question. 1689 01:31:39.560 --> 01:31:41.000 But the point I was trying to make with all 1690 01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:43.359 of that is you got to look at what resources 1691 01:31:43.399 --> 01:31:46.279 are in that area and what country stands to benefit 1692 01:31:46.359 --> 01:31:51.319 from having controlling interest in that area. So that's kind 1693 01:31:51.359 --> 01:31:54.680 of been Africa's stick for the last few centuries. Honestly, 1694 01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:57.359 it's imperialism, but now it's got a whole new face, 1695 01:31:57.399 --> 01:31:59.479 to be honest with you, So to say that a 1696 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:03.079 certain political leader or warlord leader, or whatever the case is, 1697 01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:08.920 maybe a three letter agency asset or might be being 1698 01:32:09.039 --> 01:32:14.880 swayed from another country or another political ideation that completely 1699 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:17.600 checks out to me. Honestly, that seems like a rinse 1700 01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:20.840 and repeat of what's been going down to Africa for 1701 01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:28.600 quite some time. It's a mess anyway, all right. So 1702 01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:31.399 now we have talked about the Africa conversation, does anybody 1703 01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:32.920 else have anything they would like to bring up? 1704 01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:33.239 Royce? 1705 01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:34.880 You had said earlier you had something you wanted to 1706 01:32:34.880 --> 01:32:42.439 bring up? Or was that the Newsweek article? If Royce 1707 01:32:42.520 --> 01:32:43.239 is still with us? 1708 01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:48.640 I do not know. Yeah, you know. 1709 01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:52.279 Well sorry, sorry, hold on, I'm sorry I missed a question. 1710 01:32:52.359 --> 01:32:53.279 I was busy. 1711 01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:55.840 What's up? I was saying, did you have anything else 1712 01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:56.760 you wanted to bring up? 1713 01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:58.520 I know you had something earlier, but I didn't know 1714 01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:00.319 if that was the Newsweek article or or if that 1715 01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:02.520 was something else. 1716 01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:05.600 Oh no, the only thing that I had pretty much, 1717 01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.199 how was the newsweak card got. The comment that I 1718 01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:12.279 made was in response to Zombie asking about what you 1719 01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:16.319 said about prayer not being allowed in one's house. 1720 01:33:17.720 --> 01:33:19.960 Yeah, that's at this time. 1721 01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:23.079 That is a rumor that is going around in Scotland 1722 01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:28.079 that the Scottish authorities are about to try to outlaw 1723 01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:32.520 prayer even within one's own home. Now, as of now, 1724 01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:35.880 it's not happened. People are allowed to be whatever religion 1725 01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:39.199 they want in Scotland. You are not allowed to openly 1726 01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:45.119 profess your faith unless you happen to be a immigrant 1727 01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:49.840 from a Muslim nation. Then apparently you can do whatever 1728 01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:52.119 your heart tells you to do and claim it's. 1729 01:33:51.960 --> 01:33:52.720 A part of your culture. 1730 01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:57.199 That's kind of a jam at this time, but according 1731 01:33:57.279 --> 01:34:01.680 to certain sources, it may become very very real, very 1732 01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:04.239 soon that they just kind of outlaw religion as a 1733 01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:08.520 whole in Scotland. They're still trying to they're still trying 1734 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:11.079 to separate from the UK, if I'm not mistaken. They 1735 01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:14.119 tried that a couple of years ago, and Tony, actually 1736 01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:16.800 you can chime in on this one. They were stopped 1737 01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:19.439 because if they did, they said that they weren't going 1738 01:34:19.520 --> 01:34:22.359 to ally with Russia. But they also weren't going to 1739 01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:24.880 go against Russia in any way, shape or form either, 1740 01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:28.600 meaning that their waterways to the north of England would 1741 01:34:28.640 --> 01:34:32.479 have been seen as free international water and the NATO 1742 01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:34.279 forces really didn't like that. 1743 01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:38.000 And yeah, I don't remember super well, but in twenty 1744 01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:40.920 eighteen and twenty nineteen I worked for Chevron and I 1745 01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:44.000 talked to a girl from Scotland, and I don't remember 1746 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:45.960 that aspect, but she was telling me all the young 1747 01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:49.000 people tended to vote in favor of seceding from England, 1748 01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:54.279 but the older people's pension, their social security basically really 1749 01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:57.800 was hanging in the balance there and they voted to remain. 1750 01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.520 So I think that was the reason, and that the 1751 01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:03.640 old people barely won that'll action or referendum. 1752 01:35:04.520 --> 01:35:05.199 I believe that. 1753 01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:08.199 Yeah, they've been joined to England ever since seventeen oh one, 1754 01:35:08.359 --> 01:35:10.399 the active union, which had to do with the big 1755 01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:14.039 bank bailout that happened that year, the British bailing out 1756 01:35:14.239 --> 01:35:18.840 Scottish banks. Yeah, been stuck together ever since. And I 1757 01:35:18.920 --> 01:35:22.239 don't really understand the whole picture, but in general I'm 1758 01:35:22.279 --> 01:35:25.239 more in favor of independence and secession and people having 1759 01:35:25.239 --> 01:35:28.439 the right to self determination and more local control as 1760 01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:29.359 much as possible. 1761 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:33.079 I agree with that sentiment personally. Like, for instance, Ireland, 1762 01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:37.399 I believe that that should be a completely Irish controlled island. 1763 01:35:37.960 --> 01:35:40.159 That's just my own personal hot take. I believe that 1764 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.000 the UK should go ahead and just give Northern Ireland 1765 01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:46.600 back to the Irish. You know, at least at that 1766 01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:49.520 point the IRA could go away. It would literally take 1767 01:35:49.560 --> 01:35:52.479 out an entire terrorist organization that quickly. 1768 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:56.159 But uh, you know, and I don't. I personally don't. 1769 01:35:56.439 --> 01:35:59.279 I have mixed feelings about the IRA being considered a 1770 01:35:59.399 --> 01:36:02.680 terrorist organisation or are they a our militia that is 1771 01:36:02.720 --> 01:36:06.079 defending their homeland from foreigners. I mean, you know, there's 1772 01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:10.119 I get both sides of that argument. But at the 1773 01:36:10.159 --> 01:36:15.520 same time, Ireland has been going way more socialists in 1774 01:36:15.560 --> 01:36:18.079 their viewpoints, so I kind of you know, me, I 1775 01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:21.560 don't believe that commedis and socialists are like people, So 1776 01:36:21.680 --> 01:36:26.800 I don't. I don't like that personally, but yeah, it's 1777 01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:31.039 I could see. Scotland, I've been told, is kind of 1778 01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:33.199 in the same boat. Like you said, the younger crowd 1779 01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:37.039 is more in favor of secession, but they're also more 1780 01:36:37.079 --> 01:36:42.840 in favor of more far left slash Marxist ideations and 1781 01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:46.640 that's not positive for anybody. So I kind of got 1782 01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:48.399 mixed emotions on it, to be honest with you. 1783 01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:53.840 Yeah, I don't know enough about the whole good question. 1784 01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:55.840 But is it like a fifty to fifty split in 1785 01:36:55.880 --> 01:36:58.560 popular opinion in Northern Ireland as to whether they want 1786 01:36:58.560 --> 01:36:59.439 to remain or leave? 1787 01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.479 It depends on the source you ask from. 1788 01:37:02.359 --> 01:37:03.960 What I win it right now and I can't get 1789 01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:07.520 a solid answer, but that around fifty fifty. 1790 01:37:08.439 --> 01:37:09.159 If you're right. 1791 01:37:09.199 --> 01:37:11.560 If you look it up, you may find something more 1792 01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:13.680 along the lines of fifty to fifty. But then again 1793 01:37:13.720 --> 01:37:16.640 it's like, well, what's the poll, Like who's getting polled? 1794 01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:20.119 Which neighborhood is being polled? Right? I mean, if you 1795 01:37:20.119 --> 01:37:22.520 ask the people of Belfast, they may say one thing, 1796 01:37:22.600 --> 01:37:24.600 when if you go all the way to the absolute 1797 01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:27.800 northernest coast of Ira of North Ireland, they may have 1798 01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:29.680 a completely other opinion. 1799 01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:34.279 There's parades every year where these people parade English flags 1800 01:37:34.640 --> 01:37:37.159 and they are proud to be English and like all 1801 01:37:37.239 --> 01:37:37.640 these things. 1802 01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:40.119 And it's a very big Protestant thing too, because that's 1803 01:37:40.199 --> 01:37:43.039 like a whole thing in that section of the of 1804 01:37:43.079 --> 01:37:43.520 the world. 1805 01:37:44.199 --> 01:37:48.439 But they are like super beating the English drums. 1806 01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:51.560 Then on the opposite side of that you have Irish 1807 01:37:51.680 --> 01:37:56.800 nationals and Irish Nation supporters who want the island to 1808 01:37:56.960 --> 01:38:00.760 be controlled by the Irish, and it's that would be 1809 01:38:01.119 --> 01:38:04.479 a big source of why the fighting has always been 1810 01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:05.000 this way. 1811 01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:07.760 I mean, yeah, the Irish had their issues with the English, 1812 01:38:07.800 --> 01:38:08.279 and I mean we. 1813 01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:11.159 Can go back even before Oliver Cromwell if we're really 1814 01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:13.159 gonna go that route. But as far as it goes 1815 01:38:13.199 --> 01:38:17.000 in the modern day, shin Fame, which is the political 1816 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:20.359 party that spun off of the IRA after the peace 1817 01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:23.920 negotiations were signed, in all these things, they seem to 1818 01:38:23.960 --> 01:38:26.520 be what the IRA became, but more of the suit 1819 01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:29.800 and tie aspect of it rather than the baclavas and aks. Right, 1820 01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:35.720 But they are slowly, but surely, if I've been reading 1821 01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:39.479 the right articles here, gaining more traction in Ireland, and 1822 01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:41.960 I wouldn't be surprised that they actually try to propose 1823 01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:42.640 a referendum. 1824 01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:44.439 But at that point, again, you're what are you gonna do? 1825 01:38:44.760 --> 01:38:49.000 The leader of Ireland is gonna appeal to the leader 1826 01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:51.920 of England and tell them to fuck off. I just 1827 01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:56.479 I don't see that going smoothly or at all for 1828 01:38:56.560 --> 01:39:00.279 that matter. But I mean, at that point, where do 1829 01:39:00.279 --> 01:39:00.920 we draw the line? 1830 01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:01.479 Right? 1831 01:39:01.520 --> 01:39:04.680 Because the UK is comprised allegedly of like four countries 1832 01:39:04.720 --> 01:39:09.600 within one. So if North Ireland's Seeds and Scotland's the Seeds. 1833 01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:13.000 Is Wales going to do the same thing? You know? 1834 01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:15.039 Where do they? Although the Welsh, I don't think I 1835 01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:16.800 actually have any issue being a part of the UK, 1836 01:39:17.039 --> 01:39:21.079 but I'm just saying, yeah, it's. 1837 01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:24.279 Not that I really listen or keep my ear to 1838 01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:25.800 the ground in there that much. Anyway. 1839 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:29.399 I try, but the Welsh dialect is so hard to understand, dude. 1840 01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:31.720 It sounds you know, and I'm not trying to talk shit. 1841 01:39:32.039 --> 01:39:35.279 And I also got like lit up because, uh, on 1842 01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:39.439 the cult, Jonathan had brought on a chick who claimed 1843 01:39:39.439 --> 01:39:42.720 to have predicted certain events that were gonna come to pass, 1844 01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:44.920 and it sounded like she had a Scottish accent, and 1845 01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:47.000 people in the commers are like, that's a Jordi accent, 1846 01:39:47.039 --> 01:39:49.680 you idiot, And I'm like, okay, fuck off. I don't 1847 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:53.760 know the dialects of English accents. Apparently, like every neighborhood 1848 01:39:53.760 --> 01:39:56.199 has their own accent and you people can tell, but 1849 01:39:56.279 --> 01:39:58.199 we can't. We're in America. It all sounds the same 1850 01:39:58.239 --> 01:40:03.840 to us, but uh yeah, the Welsh accent sounds completely 1851 01:40:03.880 --> 01:40:05.760 different than the English. 1852 01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:06.439 It sounds like. 1853 01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:11.640 Sounds like marbles in the throat of somebody who like 1854 01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:15.239 wants to be like trashy British. It's it's crazy. But 1855 01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:17.479 they also have a pretty crazy culture too. Their their 1856 01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:21.000 Christmas traditions are also pretty wild. The horse skull coming 1857 01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.479 and knocking on your door at Christmas and shit, it's wild. 1858 01:40:24.159 --> 01:40:29.079 But anyway, anyway, off topic there, So I don't know. 1859 01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:31.399 I don't know what to expect with things in the future. 1860 01:40:31.439 --> 01:40:34.560 I do know that Brexit was huge. Uh, these other 1861 01:40:34.640 --> 01:40:37.199 nations if they do split off. They have also made 1862 01:40:37.279 --> 01:40:38.880 mentioned that they do not want to be a part 1863 01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:43.079 of the EU, and uh, I don't know how they 1864 01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:45.920 would even financially support themselves. I don't know what kind 1865 01:40:45.960 --> 01:40:50.119 of booming industry Scotland or Ireland has for themselves. Uh, 1866 01:40:50.720 --> 01:40:57.079 you know, the the Internet they're fishing, right, and their 1867 01:40:57.119 --> 01:41:01.039 liquor they're in that Okay, fine, sure, but like is 1868 01:41:01.039 --> 01:41:03.279 that really enough to sustain an entire country? 1869 01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:05.479 And maybe that's why they're more Marxist. 1870 01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:08.359 I don't know the Scots wanted to remain in the EU, 1871 01:41:09.159 --> 01:41:12.920 and the British definitely wanted out. I mean, you know 1872 01:41:13.079 --> 01:41:15.840 the total polls and percentages and everything, So that was 1873 01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:19.439 another reason Scotland was trying to secede because Brexit was 1874 01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:22.199 in twenty sixteen, right something like that, and I think 1875 01:41:22.239 --> 01:41:24.520 the Scottish referendum was twenty eighteen. 1876 01:41:25.720 --> 01:41:26.840 Yeah, that sounds about right. 1877 01:41:28.279 --> 01:41:30.560 Yeah, that's one that want to be in the EU 1878 01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:32.680 for some reason. They feel like they get something out 1879 01:41:32.680 --> 01:41:36.239 of it, and it's probably some trade related thing that 1880 01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:38.159 I just don't have any awareness of. 1881 01:41:38.760 --> 01:41:40.119 So they want to be a part of the EU, 1882 01:41:40.199 --> 01:41:41.880 but they didn't want to be a part of NATO. 1883 01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:45.479 Well yeah, yeah, to be honest with you, it's not 1884 01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:48.359 like Scotland would be able to immediately start contributing three 1885 01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:51.960 percent of their GDP to their military, don't. I don't 1886 01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:53.880 even know what a Scottish military would look like at 1887 01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:56.680 this point, to be honest with you. I mean, they 1888 01:41:56.680 --> 01:42:00.960 have the was it the Blackguard, the only British unit 1889 01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:03.960 that's still allowed to wear kilts, and they're primarily based 1890 01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:06.720 out of Scotland, which is a badass military unit. Their 1891 01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:12.680 their battlefield track record is impeccable, but that being said, like, 1892 01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:16.119 you know, that's not enough to have an entire nation's 1893 01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:18.520 military under But then I wonder if they would go 1894 01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:23.199 more of the route of having a domestically based military, right, 1895 01:42:23.279 --> 01:42:25.439 more like a national guard style military. 1896 01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:28.399 I don't think they'd be sending troops into international situations. 1897 01:42:28.680 --> 01:42:29.039 I don't know. 1898 01:42:29.199 --> 01:42:32.960 Yeah, hey, I have a different topic. I was wondering 1899 01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:34.880 if you want to talk about do you know much 1900 01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:40.279 about the miracle and the secrets of the Fatima apparition? 1901 01:42:42.319 --> 01:42:44.880 Heard? Okay, I have heard of it. We've talked about 1902 01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:47.119 on the cult a little bit. But please let's talk 1903 01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:47.479 about it. 1904 01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:47.720 Man. 1905 01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:53.119 Oh yeah, I must not have caught it, but if yeah, 1906 01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:57.560 let's talk about it a little bit. Wasn't It was 1907 01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:02.399 in Portugal? Portugal, It's pretty close. And to lay a 1908 01:43:02.399 --> 01:43:06.720 little bit of background, the Portuguese monarchy was overthrown in 1909 01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:10.439 nineteen ten after eight hundred years of existence, and it 1910 01:43:10.479 --> 01:43:14.680 was replaced by the first Portuguese Republic. And this Portuguese 1911 01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:18.600 Republic was very anti clerical, really trying to knock down 1912 01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:21.520 the Catholic Church a few pegs. So that is the 1913 01:43:21.520 --> 01:43:24.720 political situation that was going on at the time, which. 1914 01:43:24.560 --> 01:43:27.199 Is typical when a monarch is overthrown, they're typically try 1915 01:43:27.239 --> 01:43:29.079 to step away from religion checks out. 1916 01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:34.119 A few years later, Mexico experienced a similar thing and 1917 01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:37.039 started in Spain, and that's where the Spanish Civil War 1918 01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:42.760 came from. But in Portugal nineteen ten, the monarchy is overthrown, 1919 01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:47.119 replaced by a republic, and then World War One breaks 1920 01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:50.920 out and Portugal's neutral until nineteen sixteen, and then I 1921 01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:54.319 think they join in on the British side, But that's 1922 01:43:54.359 --> 01:43:58.079 not really a major factor to this story. This story 1923 01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:04.880 starts in nineteen seven, on May thirteenth. From May thirteenth 1924 01:44:04.920 --> 01:44:11.199 to October thirteenth, there were three shepherd children who in 1925 01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:14.960 the village of Fatima, which is named after one of 1926 01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:19.039 Mohammad's daughters or granddaughters. I think Fatima is an Arabic word. 1927 01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:22.039 Yeah, if you look at Spain and that whole section 1928 01:44:22.119 --> 01:44:24.439 of the world and what happened with the Moorish population 1929 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:27.199 and what they did to the local inhabitants, like, yeah, 1930 01:44:27.239 --> 01:44:32.399 certain areas are very Muslim sounding for historical reasons. I'm 1931 01:44:32.439 --> 01:44:32.640 with you. 1932 01:44:33.520 --> 01:44:36.199 Yeah, So this is a town of Fatima, and it's 1933 01:44:36.239 --> 01:44:41.600 a big pilgrimage site now because this miraculous thing happened 1934 01:44:41.800 --> 01:44:44.520 back in nineteen seventeen, and the name of the three 1935 01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:52.159 Shepherd children were Lucia Dos Santos and her cousins Francisco 1936 01:44:52.279 --> 01:44:57.119 and Jacintha Marto. Francisco and Jasina died in the Big 1937 01:44:57.279 --> 01:45:02.359 flu pandemic in nineteen eighteen, but Lucilla lived until something 1938 01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:07.479 like nineteen eighty or seventy or something like that. The 1939 01:45:07.560 --> 01:45:12.760 three of them in nineteen seventeen, on May thirteenth claimed 1940 01:45:12.800 --> 01:45:17.319 that out in this rural area, they saw the Virgin 1941 01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:21.960 Mary appear to them, and she was super bright, like 1942 01:45:22.800 --> 01:45:26.279 the burning rays of the sun. And she told them, 1943 01:45:26.600 --> 01:45:28.920 don't be afraid, come closer. I have some things to 1944 01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:34.479 tell you. And the things she told them were well. 1945 01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:37.199 There were six of these apparitions on the thirteenth of 1946 01:45:37.239 --> 01:45:44.159 every month, from May to October, and she says, in May, 1947 01:45:44.239 --> 01:45:46.600 I do not be afraid. I will do you no harm. 1948 01:45:46.680 --> 01:45:48.720 I am from Heaven. I came to ask you here 1949 01:45:48.760 --> 01:45:51.560 on the thirteenth day for six months at the same time. 1950 01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:53.239 There I will tell you who I am and what 1951 01:45:53.319 --> 01:45:55.800 I want, and afterwards I will return here. Seventh time, 1952 01:45:57.640 --> 01:46:01.279 you will go to heaven. But first you must say 1953 01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:05.640 many rosaries that's kind of the substance of the May message. 1954 01:46:05.840 --> 01:46:09.880 What is a rosary? The Rosary is a series of 1955 01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:15.840 about fifty Hail Mary prayers with a few Our Fathers 1956 01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:20.520 and Glory Bee's thrown in after each ten, just to 1957 01:46:20.560 --> 01:46:23.119 break it up a little bit. Yeah, and the Rosary 1958 01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:25.880 was not really like as much of a major devotion 1959 01:46:26.039 --> 01:46:31.800 until this happened, and it really increased in popularity after this, really, 1960 01:46:32.079 --> 01:46:33.920 so yeah, I actually. 1961 01:46:33.720 --> 01:46:35.960 Don't know when the praying of the Rosary really became 1962 01:46:36.039 --> 01:46:38.279 more I don't want to say mainstream, but as far 1963 01:46:38.279 --> 01:46:41.359 as Catholicism is concerned, I kind of figured that was 1964 01:46:41.359 --> 01:46:42.159 always a part of it. 1965 01:46:42.199 --> 01:46:43.920 But is that more of a Vatican two thing? 1966 01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.199 It was a pre Vatican two and it goes back 1967 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:50.920 to the Dominicans from maybe fifteen hundred, I would say, 1968 01:46:50.960 --> 01:46:55.199 But good question. Something I just I don't know all 1969 01:46:55.239 --> 01:46:57.359 the details of it. Does not go back to like 1970 01:46:57.399 --> 01:47:00.960 the very origins of the Catholic Church. It's from the 1971 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:06.119 Middle Ages sometime, I'm pretty sure, fair enough, but in Okay, 1972 01:47:06.439 --> 01:47:08.399 I know this might be a little boring, but it's 1973 01:47:08.399 --> 01:47:13.000 building up to something kind of exciting. June message, she said, 1974 01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:15.319 I want you to come here again on the thirteenth day, 1975 01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:20.760 pray the Rosary every day, and there's a sick woman 1976 01:47:20.800 --> 01:47:23.319 in her family and she's going to be cured and 1977 01:47:23.399 --> 01:47:26.840 blah blah blah. Then the next month, and the kids 1978 01:47:26.920 --> 01:47:30.760 keep going month after month, and people around them hear 1979 01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:33.199 about how, oh, if they go to this place, they're 1980 01:47:33.239 --> 01:47:36.560 going to see this woman, the Virgin Mary, and only 1981 01:47:36.600 --> 01:47:39.479 they can see the woman. But the crowds get bigger 1982 01:47:39.479 --> 01:47:46.239 and bigger every month, and then just skip into the 1983 01:47:46.359 --> 01:47:49.399 end a little bit. There was in October the Miracle 1984 01:47:49.439 --> 01:47:52.920 of the Sun, and the Miracle of the Sun took 1985 01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:55.319 place in front of a crowd that is reported to 1986 01:47:55.359 --> 01:47:59.159 be between thirty and one hundred thousand people, including photographers, 1987 01:48:00.279 --> 01:48:04.800 and it was a rainy day and they were looking 1988 01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:08.840 for a miracle. But then suddenly, many of the witnesses 1989 01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:11.920 reported seeing the sun break through the clouds and dance 1990 01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:16.680 and spin around, and they saw radiant colors and everything 1991 01:48:16.760 --> 01:48:20.119 dried up within a miraculously short period of time, like 1992 01:48:20.159 --> 01:48:23.359 a minute or two. So that was the miracle of 1993 01:48:23.399 --> 01:48:28.720 the Sun. And you know, that's considered a big miracle 1994 01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:31.880 that it even attracted a lot of skeptics, and some 1995 01:48:31.920 --> 01:48:34.319 of them reported Oh, yeah, it was a miracle. On 1996 01:48:34.359 --> 01:48:37.079 the other hand, some people reported they didn't really see anything, 1997 01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:40.800 but maybe people were anticipating a miracle. So that's just 1998 01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:43.600 kind of both sides and interpretations of what happened here. 1999 01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:49.000 But I want to get into so that's actually building 2000 01:48:49.079 --> 01:48:54.359 up to something else, because there's this controversial thing called 2001 01:48:54.399 --> 01:48:57.800 the Third Secret of Fatima, and it has to do 2002 01:48:58.039 --> 01:49:03.600 with revelations that were made over twenty years after this. 2003 01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:11.079 So after World War One, the Dos Santos kids, they 2004 01:49:11.159 --> 01:49:14.439 actually died in the flu pandemic, but Lucilla lived and 2005 01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:15.520 became a nun. 2006 01:49:16.199 --> 01:49:17.880 And I'll bet she did. 2007 01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:21.279 Yeah, and she was already they were all very religious 2008 01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:26.600 before any of this stuff happened. Anyway, And I'm trying 2009 01:49:26.640 --> 01:49:30.760 to confirm this right now, but there was a bunch 2010 01:49:30.760 --> 01:49:33.479 of stuff about how Russia needs to be consecrated to 2011 01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:37.520 marry His Immaculate Heart. And I'm pretty sure the thing 2012 01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:40.600 going on here is that there was a long period 2013 01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:43.880 of silence after nineteen seventeen, but in nineteen forty one 2014 01:49:43.920 --> 01:49:49.960 to nineteen forty four, Lucilla revealed to the world, Hey, 2015 01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:53.520 there's these three secrets. The Virgin Mary wanted me to 2016 01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:58.560 tell everybody three secrets, and I'll tell you what they are. 2017 01:49:58.600 --> 01:50:00.920 The first one she wants me to tell you is 2018 01:50:01.880 --> 01:50:05.239 that she showed us what hell looks like. She showed 2019 01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:08.039 us a great sea of fire which seemed to be 2020 01:50:08.119 --> 01:50:10.479 under the earth, and plunged into this fire where demons 2021 01:50:10.479 --> 01:50:13.880 and souls in human form, and they were burning, and 2022 01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:16.239 there were demons and they were black and transparent, and 2023 01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:19.399 it scared us so much we almost thought we were 2024 01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:24.560 gonna die. And then there's the second secret. The second 2025 01:50:24.640 --> 01:50:29.279 secret is in two parts. The first part says the 2026 01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:33.279 Virgin Mary, tells them, you have seen how souls of 2027 01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:35.640 poor sinners go to hell to save them. God wishes 2028 01:50:35.720 --> 01:50:38.359 to establish in the world devotion to my immaculate Heart. 2029 01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:40.560 If what I say to you is done, many souls 2030 01:50:40.600 --> 01:50:44.319 will be saved and there will be peace, and World 2031 01:50:44.319 --> 01:50:46.359 War one is going to end. But if people do 2032 01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:48.800 not cease offending God, a worst one will break out. 2033 01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:52.399 During the pontificate of Pope Pious the eleventh. Now there 2034 01:50:52.479 --> 01:50:54.479 was a Pope Pious the eleventh who took an office 2035 01:50:54.479 --> 01:50:57.079 in nineteen twenty two, but World War II happened under 2036 01:50:57.079 --> 01:50:59.479 Pious the twelfth. Unless you want to argue that it 2037 01:50:59.520 --> 01:51:02.720 started earlier, for example, in nineteen thirty seven with the 2038 01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:06.079 child with the Japanese conquest of Nanjing that was still 2039 01:51:06.159 --> 01:51:09.920 under pious the eleventh. So people argue these technicalities. So 2040 01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:15.960 the second part of the second secret was the consecration 2041 01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:18.159 of Russia. To prevent this, I shall come to ask 2042 01:51:18.199 --> 01:51:20.960 for the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart and 2043 01:51:21.039 --> 01:51:24.319 the communion of reparation on the first Saturdays. Blah blah blah. 2044 01:51:24.479 --> 01:51:27.800 There's a few other little things in there, but yeah, 2045 01:51:27.840 --> 01:51:30.680 both of these were finally declared in nineteen forty one, 2046 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:33.039 and this is like what twenty three, twenty four years 2047 01:51:33.079 --> 01:51:38.880 after nineteen seventeen. And then there's the third secret of 2048 01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:47.199 Fatima where Lucilla told her bishop Bishop Laria, I think, crap, 2049 01:51:47.199 --> 01:51:50.520 where's his name? It's something like that. Oh yeah, there's 2050 01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:54.800 a third secret. But Mary told me not to tell anybody, 2051 01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:58.159 and the Bishop's going, well, it's like nineteen forty four, 2052 01:51:58.399 --> 01:52:01.760 and you know, Old War two is a fever pitch 2053 01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:04.880 right now, and we want to know what's this third secret. 2054 01:52:05.159 --> 01:52:07.520 This is after she's been a nun, like she's been 2055 01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:09.840 consecrated as a nun. I think that might be the 2056 01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:12.800 word confirmed. I don't know whatever. She's taken her oaths 2057 01:52:12.880 --> 01:52:15.960 as a nun. Now as the war is going on, 2058 01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:17.359 She's like, by the way, there was another one. 2059 01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:18.880 I kept a secret. 2060 01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:22.359 It's the third secret of Fatima. And she said, but 2061 01:52:22.520 --> 01:52:24.840 I was told not to tell you what it is. Well, 2062 01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:30.840 she it, so he pleads and pleads. Eventually, eventually she 2063 01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:34.119 writes it down in a letter and says, well, this 2064 01:52:34.279 --> 01:52:37.279 is not to be opened until either I die or 2065 01:52:37.319 --> 01:52:43.199 the year nineteen sixty, whichever comes first. So finally, in 2066 01:52:43.600 --> 01:52:48.560 nineteen sixty, the Pope opens the letter and she did. 2067 01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:52.600 At that point, Uh, crap, where is she? I forget 2068 01:52:52.680 --> 01:52:53.319 where she is? 2069 01:52:53.560 --> 01:52:56.399 I assume So if she it was me dying or 2070 01:52:56.479 --> 01:52:59.960 nineteen sixty, whoever comes first, Oh, whatever comes first, Okay, 2071 01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:02.000 in nineteen sixty, she might have still been alive. 2072 01:53:02.560 --> 01:53:04.479 Oh she was a life till two thousand and five, 2073 01:53:04.600 --> 01:53:06.159 nineteen oh seven to two thousand and five. 2074 01:53:06.399 --> 01:53:10.920 She damn, what a good run, especially for surviving the 2075 01:53:10.960 --> 01:53:14.680 Spanish flu and like living in Portugal post World War 2076 01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:17.680 one and two, like yo, she had a good run. 2077 01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:19.119 But all right, I digress. 2078 01:53:20.199 --> 01:53:22.760 Uh huh, yeah, I'm trying to find the letter but 2079 01:53:23.600 --> 01:53:27.359 here's the thing. It all it said was kind of 2080 01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:30.840 like way more mundane stuff than people were expecting. People 2081 01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:34.359 were expecting it to say that, oh, the Catholic Church 2082 01:53:34.399 --> 01:53:36.960 and the Pope is going to become an apost state 2083 01:53:37.119 --> 01:53:40.359 and the Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist, 2084 01:53:41.199 --> 01:53:44.680 and a lot of Catholics were really expecting something like this. 2085 01:53:45.239 --> 01:53:50.279 But then when it was finally read and it was 2086 01:53:50.319 --> 01:53:55.520 not publicized by the Vatican in nineteen sixty, they waited 2087 01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:59.399 until June twenty sixth, the year two thousand and to 2088 01:53:59.479 --> 01:54:02.600 read this letter. She says, I write to you in 2089 01:54:02.640 --> 01:54:06.239 obedience who command me to do this through His Excellency, 2090 01:54:06.279 --> 01:54:09.199 the Bishop of Laria, and through your most Holy Mother 2091 01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:12.079 and mine. After the two parts which I have already explained, 2092 01:54:12.479 --> 01:54:15.479 we saw an angel with flaming sword in his left hand, 2093 01:54:15.520 --> 01:54:18.199 flashing and gave out flames and looked as though it 2094 01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:20.000 would set the world on fire, but they died out 2095 01:54:20.039 --> 01:54:24.479 in contact with the splendor of our Lady. The angel 2096 01:54:24.520 --> 01:54:26.880 cried out in a loud voice, Penance, Penance, Penance, and 2097 01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:30.760 we saw an immense light that is God, something similar 2098 01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:32.600 to how people appear in a mirror when they pass 2099 01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:34.359 in front of it a bishop dressed in white. We 2100 01:54:34.399 --> 01:54:37.039 had the impression that it was the Holy Father, other bishops, 2101 01:54:37.119 --> 01:54:39.800 priestsmen and women religious, going up a steep mountain at 2102 01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:41.560 the top of which there was a big cross of 2103 01:54:41.680 --> 01:54:44.199 rough hewn trunks as of a cork tree with bark. 2104 01:54:44.439 --> 01:54:47.640 Before reaching there, the Holy Father passed through a big city, 2105 01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:51.079 half in ruins and half trembling with halting step. Afflicted 2106 01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:53.039 with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of 2107 01:54:53.079 --> 01:54:55.680 the corpses he met along the way. Having reached the 2108 01:54:55.680 --> 01:54:58.439 top of the mountain on his knees, at the at 2109 01:54:58.439 --> 01:55:00.920 the foot of the big cross, he was killed by 2110 01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:03.359 a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, 2111 01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:06.640 and in the same way they're died, one after another 2112 01:55:06.760 --> 01:55:09.560 of the bishops, priests, men and women religious, and various 2113 01:55:09.600 --> 01:55:12.439 lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two 2114 01:55:12.560 --> 01:55:15.399 arms of the cross, there were two angels, each with 2115 01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:20.000 a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered 2116 01:55:20.079 --> 01:55:23.439 up the blood of the martyrs, and with it sprinkled 2117 01:55:23.479 --> 01:55:27.520 the souls that were making their way to God. March first, 2118 01:55:27.760 --> 01:55:32.840 nineteen forty four. So this was the letter, and people 2119 01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:35.479 were expecting that, oh, this is going to say something, 2120 01:55:36.479 --> 01:55:39.319 you know, more like exactly who's going to start World 2121 01:55:39.359 --> 01:55:42.680 War III, or what exactly the end times are going 2122 01:55:42.720 --> 01:55:45.159 to be when they're going to come, or the Pope 2123 01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:48.199 and the Church are going to become apostates. And especially 2124 01:55:48.199 --> 01:55:52.439 after the Second Vatican Council, especially traditional Catholics were expecting 2125 01:55:52.479 --> 01:55:56.279 some message like that. So when this letter finally came out, 2126 01:55:56.600 --> 01:56:00.439 I mean, it sounds like very poetic and emotion, but 2127 01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:03.840 they actually found it really underwhelming, and they're started to 2128 01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:07.119 evolve all these conspiracies that well they didn't release the 2129 01:56:07.159 --> 01:56:10.279 real one. There's a real third secret, and they're just 2130 01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:12.159 not telling us because it's going to tell us the 2131 01:56:12.159 --> 01:56:15.520 Pope isn't a pastate. And now we're, I guess twenty 2132 01:56:15.560 --> 01:56:18.800 four years later, and some people are still really into 2133 01:56:18.800 --> 01:56:24.239 this secret and others. You know, I actually believe the 2134 01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:27.720 letter is probably what she actually wrote. I have a feeling. 2135 01:56:28.279 --> 01:56:31.680 I know this makes me sound less faithful, but you 2136 01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:35.920 experienced something there. She experienced something, But maybe twenty four 2137 01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:38.680 years later, in nineteen forty one to nineteen forty four, 2138 01:56:38.720 --> 01:56:40.760 she was trying to do something or say something and 2139 01:56:40.800 --> 01:56:43.760 to maintain relevance, and she said, you know, I think 2140 01:56:43.840 --> 01:56:45.880 there was something about some secrets. Let me tell you 2141 01:56:45.920 --> 01:56:48.199 about them, but I don't know. Maybe Virgin Mary told 2142 01:56:48.239 --> 01:56:51.680 me not to tell you, and okay, okay, well i'll 2143 01:56:51.680 --> 01:56:53.119 tell you. I'll put this right. And she had to 2144 01:56:53.159 --> 01:56:55.520 come up with something, and that's just what she came 2145 01:56:55.640 --> 01:56:58.319 up with. That's kind of my impression of it. 2146 01:56:58.439 --> 01:57:01.600 So a couple of couple of things that kind of 2147 01:57:01.680 --> 01:57:05.560 jump out at me here. This was released in nineteen sixty. 2148 01:57:06.640 --> 01:57:07.960 When did the Vatican two. 2149 01:57:07.920 --> 01:57:08.720 Take place. 2150 01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:14.039 Ancil It was sixty two to sixty four, and it 2151 01:57:14.119 --> 01:57:16.439 basically ended Latin Mass and it said it's going to 2152 01:57:16.439 --> 01:57:19.520 be in the normal languages like English from now on, 2153 01:57:19.760 --> 01:57:22.560 and personally, I think that was the wrong decision. Agree 2154 01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:24.680 so the decision they've made. 2155 01:57:24.920 --> 01:57:28.199 So I'm just making sure I fully understand this. Right 2156 01:57:28.279 --> 01:57:31.319 before the Vatican two was to take place, and I'm 2157 01:57:31.359 --> 01:57:34.039 sure that there was already kind of murmurs about a 2158 01:57:34.119 --> 01:57:39.199 reformation happening within the church before this time. This woman, 2159 01:57:39.399 --> 01:57:42.840 this nun, who was one of the only people that 2160 01:57:42.920 --> 01:57:46.560 could actually see the Virgin Mother and all that came 2161 01:57:46.600 --> 01:57:50.760 forward with a third thing that no one knew about 2162 01:57:50.840 --> 01:57:54.560 up until this point and basically said that if things 2163 01:57:54.600 --> 01:57:58.800 don't change, things are going to go really south, right 2164 01:57:58.840 --> 01:58:02.199 before the Vatican two to place. That's interesting to me, 2165 01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:04.720 and I'm not saying though this is bullshit. 2166 01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:07.000 That's when the letter was opened. She actually wrote that 2167 01:58:07.039 --> 01:58:08.279 in nineteen forty four. 2168 01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:13.000 Okay, okay, all right, fair enough then. Also the whole 2169 01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:16.800 thing about the Russians needing to acknowledge the Virgin Mother, 2170 01:58:17.319 --> 01:58:20.920 the Russian Orthodoxy Church acknowledges her as the Mother of God, 2171 01:58:21.119 --> 01:58:21.640 so like. 2172 01:58:23.119 --> 01:58:26.119 Yes they do. But you know, this is another thing 2173 01:58:26.159 --> 01:58:29.239 I've noticed people today who are really into the fatimaus 2174 01:58:29.319 --> 01:58:32.279 stuff really really don't like Russia, which is weird because 2175 01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:36.359 they tend to be the most traditional Catholics and they 2176 01:58:36.399 --> 01:58:39.520 don't even care so much that Russia isn't communists anymore. 2177 01:58:39.920 --> 01:58:41.640 And if you really want to get into the nitty 2178 01:58:41.680 --> 01:58:46.239 gritty here, the apparitions were from May to October of 2179 01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:49.920 nineteen seventeen. That was before the Bolshevik takeover, but after 2180 01:58:49.960 --> 01:58:54.399 the February Revolution, so Russia was not communist yet after 2181 01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:57.800 all these events happened, it was definitely interpreted that, oh, 2182 01:58:57.920 --> 01:59:01.199 the Virgin Mary hates Communists, which I actually agree. 2183 01:59:00.880 --> 01:59:03.800 With I think that she would, Yeah, no doubt. 2184 01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:09.279 But that was my interpretation too. And yet, when you 2185 01:59:09.279 --> 01:59:12.039 you know, read through what was going on in nineteen seventeen, 2186 01:59:12.600 --> 01:59:15.560 communism was not a part of the problem that she 2187 01:59:15.640 --> 01:59:18.880 was talking about. She was just talking about Russia, not communists. 2188 01:59:19.239 --> 01:59:22.439 Does the Russian Orthodoxy do they pray the Rosary or 2189 01:59:22.479 --> 01:59:23.439 is that more of a Roman. 2190 01:59:23.279 --> 01:59:25.640 We don't have it ninety nine percent sure they don't 2191 01:59:25.680 --> 01:59:29.680 have it. Interesting but they tell her the Theo Tokos, 2192 01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:34.239 which is the mother of God. That's Greek because Theo 2193 01:59:34.439 --> 01:59:36.359 is God and Tokos's mother. 2194 01:59:36.800 --> 01:59:39.000 Which makes sense because Russian Orthodoxy is kind of a 2195 01:59:39.000 --> 01:59:41.760 subrendit of the Greek Orthodoxy, so that makes sense they would. 2196 01:59:41.600 --> 01:59:44.960 Have Greek teams in there, Greek stuff they do. 2197 01:59:45.439 --> 01:59:47.840 Royce actually chime in on this one real quick. I'm 2198 01:59:47.920 --> 01:59:52.039 very curious Mary. I know that you know, you have 2199 01:59:52.079 --> 01:59:54.000 a different set of beliefs as far as the Bible 2200 01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:57.439 and Mary goes. But she was a Jewish woman around 2201 01:59:57.439 --> 02:00:00.840 the turn of the millennia and all these things. What 2202 02:00:00.960 --> 02:00:05.159 is the Jewish take on communism, like for religious reasons 2203 02:00:05.159 --> 02:00:07.560 and things like that. Because I'm I'm in agreement with 2204 02:00:07.640 --> 02:00:10.920 Tony here, I believe that the Virgin Mother probably would 2205 02:00:10.960 --> 02:00:15.079 have not liked communism as a even a thought process, 2206 02:00:15.159 --> 02:00:18.000 let alone an actual system of governance, especially with the 2207 02:00:18.039 --> 02:00:20.239 amount of murders and deaths that it's attributed. 2208 02:00:20.720 --> 02:00:24.520 But what is the Jewish take on Commedi's. 2209 02:00:25.199 --> 02:00:29.000 So I don't really think that a lot of Jews 2210 02:00:29.359 --> 02:00:35.439 would be pro communistic, mainly because from what I think, 2211 02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:39.359 like in the Toro, whenever the Jews were supposed to 2212 02:00:39.359 --> 02:00:42.359 bring like their their annual offerings or the grain offerings 2213 02:00:42.399 --> 02:00:45.279 whatever to the temple, it said that you that you 2214 02:00:45.319 --> 02:00:49.000 will bring what God has blessed you with. It doesn't do, 2215 02:00:49.239 --> 02:00:52.359 it doesn't say and usual. I mean there were certain 2216 02:00:52.399 --> 02:00:55.800 things that like were when it came to the the 2217 02:00:55.920 --> 02:00:59.279 taally of how many Jews there were, like they're every Jew, 2218 02:00:59.279 --> 02:01:03.039 regardless of whether they were rich or poor, they needed 2219 02:01:03.079 --> 02:01:07.119 to give a a half shekel, I think. But as 2220 02:01:07.560 --> 02:01:10.640 far as like your grain offerings or whatever you were, 2221 02:01:10.920 --> 02:01:15.560 you were able to whether it was grain or animals, whatever, 2222 02:01:16.239 --> 02:01:21.680 basically says that you will bring a certain amount of this. 2223 02:01:22.720 --> 02:01:26.199 So I don't really believe that they would have been for. 2224 02:01:26.079 --> 02:01:29.760 It fair fair, Okay, So yeah, right off the rip, 2225 02:01:29.800 --> 02:01:33.039 we can pretty much unilaterally agree that the Virgin Mother 2226 02:01:33.119 --> 02:01:33.680 does not. 2227 02:01:33.720 --> 02:01:36.720 Like comedies or communistic ideas. I like it a lot. 2228 02:01:37.199 --> 02:01:40.279 I like it a lot, although the whole the Third 2229 02:01:40.319 --> 02:01:42.840 Fatoma Revelation, I don't even. 2230 02:01:42.680 --> 02:01:44.439 Know if we talked about that on that episode, to 2231 02:01:44.439 --> 02:01:45.560 be honest with you, because it. 2232 02:01:45.560 --> 02:01:48.000 Was like I think we touched on some of the 2233 02:01:48.039 --> 02:01:53.000 more famous Marian apparitions or miracles or however they're you know, 2234 02:01:53.000 --> 02:01:55.600 however they're described, depending on what article you're reading and 2235 02:01:55.680 --> 02:01:58.840 who wrote it kind of thing. But there's been quite 2236 02:01:58.880 --> 02:02:01.560 a few of them that we talked about. That one 2237 02:02:01.640 --> 02:02:05.279 is definitely a very seriously interesting one, to say the least. 2238 02:02:05.880 --> 02:02:09.359 But that's also kind of crazy that it's said that 2239 02:02:09.640 --> 02:02:13.720 the Roman Catholic Church will become an apostate, or the 2240 02:02:13.760 --> 02:02:16.319 pope would become an apostate, so to speak. And there's 2241 02:02:16.359 --> 02:02:18.520 a lot of people that would argue that the parent 2242 02:02:18.920 --> 02:02:22.159 or the parent, the Jesus Christ, the Holy Father, the 2243 02:02:22.199 --> 02:02:25.880 current pope would be a little bit of an apostate 2244 02:02:26.039 --> 02:02:29.600 as far as things are concerned. I know, again, I 2245 02:02:29.640 --> 02:02:31.760 need to any of the Catholics listening. I'm not trying 2246 02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:34.039 to piss an y'alls Cheerios here. I just I think 2247 02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:37.319 we can all agree Pope Francis pretty pretty much sucks 2248 02:02:37.760 --> 02:02:38.560 like across the board. 2249 02:02:38.640 --> 02:02:41.640 Actually I believe it, or I actually read an article 2250 02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:47.600 today about that kind of that. There was a news 2251 02:02:47.640 --> 02:02:50.119 reporter that actually wanted to ask if the Pope is 2252 02:02:50.159 --> 02:02:54.640 actually actually Catholic because he goes against some of the 2253 02:02:55.720 --> 02:02:59.640 main principles of their faith, which is kind of an 2254 02:02:59.640 --> 02:03:03.199 interesting saying. It takes. You wouldn't necessarily think that unless 2255 02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:06.520 you actually delves really deeply into it. 2256 02:03:11.439 --> 02:03:14.560 There's a pretty big group well, actually I shouldn't call 2257 02:03:14.600 --> 02:03:18.439 them that big. They're small group of Catholics called set 2258 02:03:18.479 --> 02:03:20.840 of the Cantists who believe that the Pope has been 2259 02:03:20.880 --> 02:03:25.880 illegitimate since nineteen sixty four, roughly with the Second Vatican Council. 2260 02:03:25.920 --> 02:03:29.680 They considered the Second Vatican Council to be formal heresy. 2261 02:03:30.560 --> 02:03:35.600 And there's another group called Old Catholics who split over 2262 02:03:35.640 --> 02:03:39.560 the First Vatican Council in eighteen seventy yeah, which is 2263 02:03:39.600 --> 02:03:43.359 the one that said that the Pope can be infallible. 2264 02:03:43.920 --> 02:03:48.359 So there's several splinter groups like that. They're pretty small 2265 02:03:48.560 --> 02:03:54.680 in total, but traditional, the Latin loving Catholics really want 2266 02:03:54.680 --> 02:03:58.159 to have you know they wanted to have something out 2267 02:03:58.159 --> 02:04:00.720 of this third Secret saying you got to have Latin 2268 02:04:01.399 --> 02:04:06.000 and you know, or the Pope is gonna become an apostate, 2269 02:04:06.119 --> 02:04:08.399 and they didn't get that out of the ladder. So 2270 02:04:08.560 --> 02:04:10.279 some of them believe that, oh, the letter must have 2271 02:04:10.359 --> 02:04:13.119 said that, but they're they're still holding that back from us. 2272 02:04:13.479 --> 02:04:15.840 Dude. I feel like with all the changes he's trying 2273 02:04:15.880 --> 02:04:18.520 to make the current pope, I wouldn't be shocked if 2274 02:04:18.520 --> 02:04:22.079 we have a Vatican three happen sooner than like, I know, 2275 02:04:22.199 --> 02:04:24.159 if we're going to go off the current trend here, 2276 02:04:24.199 --> 02:04:26.960 it would be more around like the twenty sixty twenty 2277 02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:30.760 seventy timeframe. But I feel like there's going to be 2278 02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:33.640 a reformation sooner rather than later if things keep going 2279 02:04:33.680 --> 02:04:36.079 the way they're going. You, being the resident Catholic, what 2280 02:04:36.119 --> 02:04:36.880 are your thoughts on that. 2281 02:04:37.680 --> 02:04:39.880 Yeah, I'm in favor of having a third one. I 2282 02:04:39.920 --> 02:04:43.039 feel like it wouldn't be a problem to me. We've 2283 02:04:43.039 --> 02:04:45.640 had a lot throughout the history of the Catholic Church. 2284 02:04:45.680 --> 02:04:47.520 Most of them are not a Vatican. They're called, like 2285 02:04:48.039 --> 02:04:51.119 lateran Council or the Council of Trent. Those are the 2286 02:04:51.119 --> 02:04:53.399 big ones and There's been a whole bunch more that 2287 02:04:53.840 --> 02:04:56.760 I don't remember, but you know, that's a part of 2288 02:04:56.760 --> 02:04:58.039 our history. We can do it again. 2289 02:04:58.800 --> 02:05:01.880 Yeah, by the way, so randomly, So a few minutes ago, 2290 02:05:01.920 --> 02:05:05.960 you guys were talking about the fact that with the 2291 02:05:06.000 --> 02:05:10.079 Second Reformation that they took out the Latin from the church. 2292 02:05:10.560 --> 02:05:13.359 So what I find very interesting about that is I 2293 02:05:13.399 --> 02:05:16.920 don't necessarily know what specific time frame it was. But 2294 02:05:17.079 --> 02:05:22.319 so currently right now, we have three main I wouldn't 2295 02:05:22.319 --> 02:05:25.439 necessarily want to call them sects of Judaism, but you 2296 02:05:25.520 --> 02:05:28.600 have three main roads called you have the right wing, 2297 02:05:29.079 --> 02:05:31.159 which would be like the Orthodox, the middle which is 2298 02:05:31.199 --> 02:05:35.760 the conservative, and the left wing, which is like the Reform. 2299 02:05:36.520 --> 02:05:40.720 And in other synagogues, like when in it comes to 2300 02:05:41.479 --> 02:05:48.680 Conservative or Reform either shoals or temples, there is Hebrew 2301 02:05:48.760 --> 02:05:51.000 that's a part of it, but a lot of it 2302 02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:56.279 is actually in English, as opposed to Orthodox synagogues where 2303 02:05:56.319 --> 02:05:59.039 it's I mean, all all the doubt butting all the 2304 02:05:59.079 --> 02:06:01.520 prayers are done in Hebrew. 2305 02:06:03.560 --> 02:06:06.640 Yeah, and I'm sure there's groups that call the other 2306 02:06:06.760 --> 02:06:11.000 groups like the what do y'all call it? Not apostates, huh? 2307 02:06:11.239 --> 02:06:13.039 I mean, so it's not nostally a positive but just 2308 02:06:13.119 --> 02:06:16.720 sometimes they're just not Jewish. I mean, for example, I'm 2309 02:06:16.960 --> 02:06:22.800 somebody who might have been raised reform or even conservative. 2310 02:06:22.840 --> 02:06:30.239 Let's just say they are if their father was not Jewish, 2311 02:06:30.319 --> 02:06:32.640 I'm sorry, if their mother was not the Jewish but 2312 02:06:32.680 --> 02:06:37.239 their father was. According to conservative and reform Judaism, they're 2313 02:06:37.279 --> 02:06:41.520 considered Jews and of themselves, but Orthodox don't recognize them. 2314 02:06:41.880 --> 02:06:50.640 Orthodox don't recognize conversions of conservatives or reform. So like 2315 02:06:50.720 --> 02:06:52.479 if you have somebody who wants to say, we'll have 2316 02:06:52.600 --> 02:06:55.840 spent anywhere between one and two years, one to two 2317 02:06:55.920 --> 02:07:01.319 years studying, learning, you know, passing a test for whatever 2318 02:07:01.920 --> 02:07:05.199 house of rabbis that they go to to take their 2319 02:07:05.239 --> 02:07:09.479 tests to actually become Jewish. If they were to walk 2320 02:07:09.479 --> 02:07:15.199 into a synagogue and they knew that they were converts 2321 02:07:15.479 --> 02:07:21.720 and that it was done under not Orthodox auspices, then 2322 02:07:22.279 --> 02:07:27.680 they are not considered Jewish because the levels are different. 2323 02:07:27.720 --> 02:07:31.000 Because the whole idea about being Jewish is that you 2324 02:07:31.119 --> 02:07:35.119 are accepting upon yourself. Tora and Mintsos and somebody who 2325 02:07:35.159 --> 02:07:38.840 is conservative or reform, they don't really chept upon themselves 2326 02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:41.159 to our miss. They don't really keep stabbis. They don't 2327 02:07:41.199 --> 02:07:44.840 really keep kosher. They don't do the thing that the 2328 02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:50.279 Torah slash the rabbis have prescribed, so therefore like that 2329 02:07:50.279 --> 02:07:53.600 that doesn't count. It's like, well, that's fantastic, great job 2330 02:07:53.640 --> 02:07:55.800 for learning. If you want to be Jewish, you needed 2331 02:07:55.800 --> 02:07:58.920 to take these extra steps. And what's even interesting is 2332 02:07:58.920 --> 02:08:03.399 that there there are some groups of Judaism that don't 2333 02:08:03.520 --> 02:08:09.039 necessarily convert people, like ah Bad for example, that was 2334 02:08:11.239 --> 02:08:13.680 that is still very very much so around and they 2335 02:08:14.319 --> 02:08:19.079 do widespread learning and teaching and try to try to 2336 02:08:19.079 --> 02:08:23.039 get you Jews to become written more religious and being 2337 02:08:23.760 --> 02:08:27.359 to come back to the faith. They actually don't convert people, 2338 02:08:27.399 --> 02:08:31.039 Like if somebody says I want to convert, it said, fantastic, 2339 02:08:31.159 --> 02:08:37.119 consider contact your lo r your local Orthodox rabbi, so 2340 02:08:37.520 --> 02:08:41.680 that they don't actually do conversions end of themselves. And 2341 02:08:41.840 --> 02:08:48.199 I've heard that even some Spartan don't actually accept converts 2342 02:08:48.520 --> 02:08:53.119 at all. Now, grant, I don't necessarily how true that is, 2343 02:08:53.199 --> 02:08:56.199 but I believe, I mean, I believe the person who 2344 02:08:56.359 --> 02:08:59.399 told me that they don't really look very highly on 2345 02:08:59.399 --> 02:09:02.039 on convert or just you know, there's maybe it's just 2346 02:09:02.079 --> 02:09:05.119 such a process and you know, they don't know, if 2347 02:09:05.159 --> 02:09:09.319 they're sincere, because obviously sincerity is a big thing. You know, 2348 02:09:09.399 --> 02:09:13.439 if somebody's just doing it temporarily, or are they trying 2349 02:09:13.520 --> 02:09:17.000 to you know, reise their way into like what are 2350 02:09:17.039 --> 02:09:20.000 their motives? You know when they realize that, you know, 2351 02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:22.520 it's not fun to be Jewish, are they just going 2352 02:09:22.560 --> 02:09:25.439 to you know leave the faith a couple of years 2353 02:09:25.479 --> 02:09:27.800 later and then you know, and it doesn't look good 2354 02:09:27.880 --> 02:09:31.319 on the rabbies, look good on the person and of themselves. 2355 02:09:31.560 --> 02:09:34.920 And well, let's to say, even religiously, if these people 2356 02:09:35.439 --> 02:09:39.399 actually did go through the conversion process, even if they 2357 02:09:39.439 --> 02:09:43.399 were to quote unquote convert back to whatever religion they 2358 02:09:43.840 --> 02:09:47.039 came from, like God is still holding them accountable for 2359 02:09:47.239 --> 02:09:51.039 the things that they're doing that they shouldn't be doing. Right, So, 2360 02:09:51.079 --> 02:09:53.800 if you have someone who spent you know, years and 2361 02:09:53.920 --> 02:09:57.279 converted to world wixed Judaism, was this say a couple 2362 02:09:57.239 --> 02:10:00.159 of years later they said, yeah, fe fuck it, I 2363 02:10:00.159 --> 02:10:03.079 don't I don't want to do anymore. Let's just say 2364 02:10:03.079 --> 02:10:04.880 they say, all right, well I want to go to 2365 02:10:04.960 --> 02:10:08.560 being Christian, Muslim, you know, you name, you know, pick 2366 02:10:08.640 --> 02:10:13.560 your religion here. Whenever they are not observing the Sabbath, 2367 02:10:13.640 --> 02:10:16.239 whenever they are not keeping kosher, whenever they're not doing 2368 02:10:16.279 --> 02:10:19.239 any things that we're supposed to God in essence is 2369 02:10:19.279 --> 02:10:22.079 counting that against them, you know, as opposed to someone 2370 02:10:22.119 --> 02:10:27.279 who's not Jewish. It's not quote unquote wrong for you, 2371 02:10:28.279 --> 02:10:32.960 Jacob to drive your car on Shabbis or on Saturday. Right, 2372 02:10:33.039 --> 02:10:35.560 So that's not that's not counted against you because it's 2373 02:10:35.600 --> 02:10:37.800 not your commandment. 2374 02:10:37.319 --> 02:10:38.880 To do God. 2375 02:10:39.000 --> 02:10:42.439 So it's which is also the reason why Jews don't 2376 02:10:42.479 --> 02:10:46.720 try to convert people is because like, first of all, 2377 02:10:46.760 --> 02:10:48.800 we have enough Jews that have a hard time not 2378 02:10:48.880 --> 02:10:50.960 wanting to do the things themselves. We don't really need 2379 02:10:51.000 --> 02:10:54.760 it anymore, right, And like why why, like why would 2380 02:10:54.840 --> 02:10:58.239 I put a stumbling block in front of you. It's like, 2381 02:10:58.359 --> 02:11:00.680 it's it's hard being Jewish. It's it's hard to pray 2382 02:11:00.720 --> 02:11:02.439 all the time. It's hard to keep kosher all the time. 2383 02:11:02.479 --> 02:11:06.039 You know, it's not an easy lifestyle. 2384 02:11:07.079 --> 02:11:07.840 I feel that. 2385 02:11:07.800 --> 02:11:12.039 So so better not to bring somebody into the faith 2386 02:11:12.840 --> 02:11:16.359 and have them fall and stumble and have the things 2387 02:11:16.359 --> 02:11:21.079 that they're doing now that isn't wrong, would be wrong 2388 02:11:21.119 --> 02:11:23.920 eventually if they were to go back to doing them. 2389 02:11:23.920 --> 02:11:26.079 So like that, you know better to not put a 2390 02:11:26.079 --> 02:11:27.560 stumbling block in. 2391 02:11:27.520 --> 02:11:28.000 Front of them. 2392 02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:31.600 I agree with that for sure. Man. We went off 2393 02:11:31.640 --> 02:11:34.119 on that tirade, going off with the whole Latin mass thing, 2394 02:11:34.159 --> 02:11:40.079 but I do appreciate the perspective for sure, Royce. Man, Yeah, 2395 02:11:40.199 --> 02:11:42.920 we found our way into religious conversation on this episode, 2396 02:11:42.960 --> 02:11:43.279 didn't we. 2397 02:11:44.439 --> 02:11:44.840 I think. 2398 02:11:45.039 --> 02:11:48.159 I think it seems like every single episode we veer, 2399 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:50.840 which is kind of nice because you have the. 2400 02:11:50.880 --> 02:11:53.960 At least obviously this is a very much smaller group. 2401 02:11:54.279 --> 02:11:58.239 You have people that are either subject matter experts or 2402 02:11:58.319 --> 02:12:01.760 know more about certain subjects, whether it's geopolitics, whether it's 2403 02:12:02.319 --> 02:12:06.079 certain parts of the country, whether it's Judaism, Christianity, whatever, 2404 02:12:06.399 --> 02:12:08.720 which is so it's kind of nice. So it's like 2405 02:12:08.840 --> 02:12:13.439 it's no one is excluded, you know, because like I 2406 02:12:13.479 --> 02:12:16.000 know that during the geopolitics of like, I don't really 2407 02:12:16.000 --> 02:12:19.760 know anything. I spend all my time either at work, 2408 02:12:19.760 --> 02:12:21.680 in the gym or school. 2409 02:12:21.880 --> 02:12:24.520 I have no time to learn this stuff or to 2410 02:12:24.520 --> 02:12:26.760 do my own research. So that's why I come here 2411 02:12:27.520 --> 02:12:32.880 to learn, not to necessarily insert my opinion or because 2412 02:12:32.920 --> 02:12:35.319 I just don't have one. That's fair so better than 2413 02:12:35.760 --> 02:12:37.720 so better that everybody is able to get like a 2414 02:12:37.720 --> 02:12:39.479 little piece and snippets here and there. 2415 02:12:39.600 --> 02:12:46.680 So absolutely absolutely so all right, Tony with the Fatima revelation, 2416 02:12:47.199 --> 02:12:49.079 what are your final closing thoughts on this? 2417 02:12:49.159 --> 02:12:49.399 Man? 2418 02:12:50.199 --> 02:12:53.239 Yeah, one final thing was for a concentration of Russia. 2419 02:12:54.079 --> 02:12:54.199 Uh. 2420 02:12:54.560 --> 02:12:58.319 This is another controversial thing because the popes and bishops 2421 02:12:58.319 --> 02:13:01.680 have tried to do it like five times in nineteen 2422 02:13:01.720 --> 02:13:05.439 forty two, nineteen fifty two, nineteen sixty four, nineteen eighty three, 2423 02:13:05.479 --> 02:13:09.279 and eighty four, and each time people are critical of 2424 02:13:09.319 --> 02:13:11.560 it and they say they didn't do it right. So 2425 02:13:12.439 --> 02:13:15.039 the third secret of Fatimah, people who are really into 2426 02:13:15.039 --> 02:13:17.079 this subject say, well, we still need to do it 2427 02:13:17.159 --> 02:13:20.640 because even though it's been attempted, they've never done it right. 2428 02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:22.600 That's why it hasn't worked. That's why we don't have 2429 02:13:22.680 --> 02:13:27.000 world peace, that's why Russia doesn't obey the pope. And 2430 02:13:27.119 --> 02:13:28.840 you know, if we would just do it right, it 2431 02:13:28.880 --> 02:13:32.720 would work. And so I'm more nuanced on this, and 2432 02:13:32.760 --> 02:13:35.359 I think it doesn't really matter exactly how you do it. 2433 02:13:35.399 --> 02:13:37.920 If there's no magic word or spell you can say 2434 02:13:38.279 --> 02:13:39.680 it's gonna make this work. 2435 02:13:40.319 --> 02:13:42.039 I'm pretty sure that they would argue that, like for 2436 02:13:42.079 --> 02:13:45.920 Instanstagram around Scotland, real quick. Scotland, I would argue, has 2437 02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:50.279 been consecrated into the Catholic Church. Meanwhile, a street preacher 2438 02:13:50.359 --> 02:13:54.039 will be arrested right now in Scotland for just being 2439 02:13:54.119 --> 02:13:58.600 on a street corner preaching the word. So, even though 2440 02:13:58.640 --> 02:14:01.039 it's been quote unquote concept, do they actually have the 2441 02:14:01.079 --> 02:14:04.880 religious freedom to be what they want to be? Russia 2442 02:14:04.920 --> 02:14:09.119 again not communist anymore, and the Russian Orthodox Church would 2443 02:14:09.199 --> 02:14:11.399 be the primary religion of Russia. 2444 02:14:12.119 --> 02:14:13.520 They acknowledge the Holy Mother. 2445 02:14:13.760 --> 02:14:15.600 I just I'm with you. 2446 02:14:16.079 --> 02:14:18.279 I feel like, at what point do we draw that line? 2447 02:14:18.600 --> 02:14:18.760 Right? 2448 02:14:18.800 --> 02:14:21.399 Do we actually need some sort of archdiocese to come 2449 02:14:21.439 --> 02:14:25.600 in and bless the entire nation, because I'm pretty sure 2450 02:14:25.600 --> 02:14:29.119 they've had, you know, Russian Orthodox which is a version 2451 02:14:29.159 --> 02:14:32.239 of Catholicism. I'm pretty sure they've already had one of 2452 02:14:32.279 --> 02:14:34.359 them do that at some point in time. I just 2453 02:14:34.479 --> 02:14:38.520 I don't know for a fact, but yeah, I don't. 2454 02:14:39.119 --> 02:14:41.039 We can always argue they didn't do it right. 2455 02:14:41.640 --> 02:14:43.920 Right, of course, we can. 2456 02:14:43.800 --> 02:14:46.520 Do it right finally this time, and that'll solve all 2457 02:14:46.560 --> 02:14:48.079 the world's problems. 2458 02:14:48.560 --> 02:14:49.800 Yeah, that's what I would take. 2459 02:14:49.880 --> 02:14:51.399 It would take that and all of a sudden, the 2460 02:14:51.479 --> 02:14:54.720 Russia Ukraine conflict would end. All of the things in 2461 02:14:54.760 --> 02:14:57.920 Africa would seee, the things in Central and Latin America 2462 02:14:57.920 --> 02:14:58.439 would cease. 2463 02:14:58.479 --> 02:15:00.840 It would just it would just be like that. But uh, 2464 02:15:01.760 --> 02:15:02.520 I guess we'll see. 2465 02:15:02.680 --> 02:15:04.279 I guess we'll see, and I guess we'll find out 2466 02:15:04.279 --> 02:15:07.800 if the Pope becomes an apostate, because there's a lot 2467 02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:09.359 of people that would say that he is, and a 2468 02:15:09.399 --> 02:15:12.880 lot of people that still ride that train hard and 2469 02:15:12.920 --> 02:15:14.880 say that while they may not agree with what he says, 2470 02:15:14.960 --> 02:15:16.840 they do see him as the Vicar of Rome and 2471 02:15:16.880 --> 02:15:18.199 therefore the vicar of the world. 2472 02:15:18.399 --> 02:15:21.319 So I mean, I you know, I'm kind of the latter. 2473 02:15:22.159 --> 02:15:23.479 I don't like him, but. 2474 02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:28.680 Oh you you are. Yeah, you don't like him, But 2475 02:15:28.680 --> 02:15:31.880 do you still think he speaks on behalf of God. 2476 02:15:32.359 --> 02:15:35.680 If he wants to. Yeah, he makes a lot of mistakes. 2477 02:15:35.800 --> 02:15:38.760 He makes a lot of mistakes. He's very fallible. But 2478 02:15:39.039 --> 02:15:41.800 I don't think he's spoken ex cathedra or in an 2479 02:15:41.800 --> 02:15:46.479 infallible way yet. I mean, well, it's only under very 2480 02:15:46.479 --> 02:15:49.840 specific circumstances that that's supposed to happen. So I think 2481 02:15:49.880 --> 02:15:51.960 he's allowed to make a lot of mistakes and even 2482 02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:56.319 though he shouldn't. But that doesn't mean that we don't 2483 02:15:56.319 --> 02:16:00.439 respect the office. I'm not a set of a cantist yet. 2484 02:16:00.760 --> 02:16:04.159 I probably the first controversial pope that's ever done wild 2485 02:16:04.199 --> 02:16:07.000 ship there, there's been a track record of that throughout history. 2486 02:16:07.159 --> 02:16:09.880 Yeah, he's he's too liberal for me, he's too conservative 2487 02:16:09.920 --> 02:16:12.520 for other people. I think he's trying. 2488 02:16:12.279 --> 02:16:16.199 To who is saying he's conservative. 2489 02:16:16.279 --> 02:16:22.920 For some people like social people? Okay, fair, fair, you know, 2490 02:16:23.279 --> 02:16:27.680 no gay marriage and uh no homosexuals in the priesthood. 2491 02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:30.359 Some people think that's intolerant. 2492 02:16:30.640 --> 02:16:32.840 So he stuck to his guns about that. 2493 02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:37.959 Really well, yeah, he said that privately to Archbishop Vigano, 2494 02:16:38.079 --> 02:16:41.680 who unfortunately has left the church since then, maybe just 2495 02:16:42.200 --> 02:16:44.559 three or four or five months ago. Vigano if if 2496 02:16:44.600 --> 02:16:47.399 you want to google him. But yeah, I could probably 2497 02:16:47.959 --> 02:16:50.280 make this podcast way too long. It's already a little 2498 02:16:50.280 --> 02:16:51.840 too long. But thank you for letting me go on 2499 02:16:51.920 --> 02:16:54.200 about that. We could do more of this next time. 2500 02:16:54.639 --> 02:16:56.840 Well, I I'm picking up where we left off here 2501 02:16:56.840 --> 02:16:59.799 on the next episode. Uh. I want to thank everybody 2502 02:16:59.840 --> 02:17:02.600 for coming out and joining the conversation this evening, especially 2503 02:17:02.600 --> 02:17:05.559 our newest addition to the crew, Trunk Alexandra. 2504 02:17:05.840 --> 02:17:07.159 Thank you for joining in on this one. 2505 02:17:07.680 --> 02:17:10.280 And uh yeah uh I can't wait to do this 2506 02:17:10.319 --> 02:17:10.959 again next week. 2507 02:17:11.040 --> 02:17:11.280 Y'all. 2508 02:17:11.479 --> 02:17:13.239 God bless and everybody take care.