1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:09,439 Epstein Chronicles. Whenever you hear people try and dismiss what 3 00:00:09,519 --> 00:00:12,000 Jeffrey Epstein was up to, one of the first things 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,240 people point to is the fact that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,199 charged the first time around with trafficking or anything in 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,199 the realm that resembles trafficking. So of course people say, well, 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,239 Jeffrey Epstein was in charge with trafficking, he wasn't convicted 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,440 of trafficking, so how could he be a human trafficker? Well, 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,920 one of the main reasons that that didn't occur is 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:40,280 because it was by design the state when after their 11 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:44,759 own witnesses, they destroyed their own witnesses credibility on behalf 12 00:00:44,799 --> 00:00:48,399 of Jeffrey Epstein Barry Krisher than the rest of them. 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,359 That's what happened. You really think that a jury would 14 00:00:52,359 --> 00:00:54,439 have given a shit if a kid had a MySpace 15 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:58,200 page talking about drinking and smoking some pot if they 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,799 were molested by Jeffrey fucking Epstein. This is the kind 17 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:05,879 of bullshit we've been dealing with since the very beginning 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,840 of this. Oh well, these kids are incredible. They smoked 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,319 some pot, They drank some beers, They talked about sex. 20 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,840 Do you forget being a teenager? I did all of that, 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,840 and I'm sure most of you did too. So does 22 00:01:18,879 --> 00:01:21,280 that mean that they couldn't have been abused by Jeffrey Epstein? 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,840 Does that mean that they had a credibility problem? Well 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,359 maybe if it was one person, but what about forty? 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,840 What about fifty? So today we have an article from 26 00:01:31,879 --> 00:01:35,439 the New York Post and the headline Jeffrey Epstein accusers 27 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:40,840 had credibility challenges, including past arrests, changing stories. Doj memos 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,920 detail and we've talked about this countless times. We didn't 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,560 need the memos for this. It's no secret that they 30 00:01:47,599 --> 00:01:50,120 destroyed their own case and their own witnesses, and they 31 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:54,239 only brought one girl up. Now they'll tell you it's 32 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:59,439 because they had credibility issues, but that's not really true. 33 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:03,840 Does Glenn Maxwell have credibility issues? She sure got some 34 00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:07,560 favorable treatment. Huh? How about Sammy de Bolgravano or how 35 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,439 about Whitey Bulger Give me a break. Okay, they think 36 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:14,240 you're stupid, That's what it comes down to. And of 37 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,639 course it gives ammunition to the people that are running 38 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,560 cover for the cover up, and there's plenty of them 39 00:02:19,599 --> 00:02:25,319 out there. This article was authored by Samuel Chamberlain and 40 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:30,599 Josh Christiansen. South Florida prosecutors pitched the sixty count indictment 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,639 of Jeffrey Epstein on charges including child prostitution and sex 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,639 trafficking in the late two thousands, but fretted that their 43 00:02:37,719 --> 00:02:41,240 case would be undone by some of the pedophiles alleged victims. 44 00:02:41,439 --> 00:02:45,439 According to newly released files, well, the OIG report says 45 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:49,800 that CEOs, the Child Exploitation Unit, was completely on board 46 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:52,400 and wanted to go forward, and everything was on track 47 00:02:52,439 --> 00:02:57,319 to do so until Mukasey and Philippe got involved from 48 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,319 Main Justice, And of course that came after a lot 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,000 of pressure that was put on them by Epstein's legal team. 50 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:07,680 So it wasn't like, you know, there was this gigantic 51 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:11,840 push for this case to go away. In fact, they 52 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,919 thought they had enough. And that's basically all the line prosecutors. 53 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,080 It was the bosses, the brass that killed it. The 54 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:24,879 Justice Department made public twenty additional documents related to the 55 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,599 disgraced financier at Thursday evening, including for the first time 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,879 memos laying out the aborted Sunshine State case against Epstein, 57 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,680 who died in his Manhattan JEL cell in August of 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,960 twenty nineteen while awaiting trial on separate sex trafficking charges. Yeah. 59 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,199 But the first time around they were incredible, right the 60 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:48,000 second time though very credible. The idiocy here is just 61 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,439 almost unbelievable. And it's whild that they believe that anyone 62 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:55,439 is going to believe this. As we said a week ago, 63 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,400 the Department of Justice reviewed public allegations that formed three 64 00:03:59,479 --> 00:04:03,120 h two inters summary documents originally produced a Glenn Maxwell 65 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:06,039 and discovery of our criminal case we're missing from the 66 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,840 EFTA Epstein Files Transparency Act library. The DOJ posted on 67 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:15,439 x What we found through extensive review is that a 68 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:19,199 published in review summary additionally disclosed in a published spreadsheet, 69 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,680 had a subsequent document that were coded as duplicative. The 70 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,079 DOJ also said, after this was brought to our attention, 71 00:04:27,519 --> 00:04:31,079 we reviewed the entire batch with similar coding and discovered 72 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:36,800 fifteen documents were incorrectly coded as duplicative under normal circumstances, 73 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,079 I might give you the benefit of the doubt, but 74 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,600 here I do not. I think you're lying, and I 75 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:47,759 think everything you're saying is bs. Five more documents were 76 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:51,199 prosecution memos, three of which were drafted by the office 77 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:55,279 of then South Florida US Attorney Alex Acosta. Those memos 78 00:04:55,439 --> 00:04:59,560 revealed that prosecutor suggested taking Epstein into custody as early 79 00:04:59,639 --> 00:05:02,639 as May two thousand and seven and seeking the seizure 80 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,720 of his Pond Beach, Florida home and two private jets 81 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,480 until Epstein's lawyers started controlling the situation. Have you not 82 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:16,519 been paying attention? That's what happened. Epstein's lawyers got the 83 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:21,000 justice the brass and started, you know, pulling levers. That's 84 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,160 why he hired the people he did. What you think 85 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:27,319 Ken Starr was just out of the blue. Alan Dershowitz 86 00:05:27,399 --> 00:05:31,560 just out of the blue. Left Kowitz out of the blue, 87 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,240 Menchell out of the blue, Lily Sanchez out of the blue, 88 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,120 Bruce Reinhart out of the blue. Come on, all these 89 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,639 people were working on the case and then they flipped 90 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:42,639 sides to start working for Epstein. Nothing to see here though, 91 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:47,959 No big deal. However, the documents also outlined the lines 92 00:05:47,959 --> 00:05:50,439 of attack that could be used by Epstein's all star 93 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,319 legal team to place reasonable doubt in the minds of 94 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,800 a potential jury that is such BS. Can you imagine 95 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,959 sitting on a jury and then trying to pitch that 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,600 to you, and then the prosecution bringing eight ten girls 97 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,399 up to tell you their story, which way you got 98 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,600 to lean as a juror? The whole thing is BS. 99 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,639 And that's why it makes me so goddamn mad. Top 100 00:06:14,639 --> 00:06:17,199 of the lists potential weaknesses was the girl whose parents 101 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:20,759 initially flagged Epstein's proclivities to the Palm Beach Police Department 102 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,680 in two thousand and five. Get Ready for this. Copies 103 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,000 of a MySpace page credited or redacted were provided to 104 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,279 the State Attorney's Office and to our office. Reads the 105 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,360 possible credibility challenges section from a February two thousand and 106 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:39,480 eight version of the prosecuting memo. On that page, redacted 107 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:42,360 states that she's twenty one years old, she drinks and 108 00:06:42,439 --> 00:06:45,360 has taken drugs, she shoplifts, and she earns two hundred 109 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,480 and fifty grand a year. The MySpace page also shows 110 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,920 a picture of redacted wrestling with her boyfriend and a 111 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,480 photograph of a naked girl lying on a beach during 112 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,279 her first session with the police. She also minimized what 113 00:06:58,319 --> 00:07:02,240 happened with Epstein denying that he touched her she was scared. 114 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:04,920 How about the second interview or the third one that 115 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:07,519 we went through. You see, they can't fool us. We've 116 00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:11,160 actually read the interviews, so they can try and spin 117 00:07:11,199 --> 00:07:15,839 it however they want. But I've given it to you, uncut, unadulterated, 118 00:07:16,279 --> 00:07:18,759 so that when they try their bullshit, you see it 119 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,800 for what it is. The memo then sought to address 120 00:07:23,839 --> 00:07:26,680 each of those concerns, noting that the accuser denied the 121 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,399 MySpace page was hers acclaim investigators could neither confirm or refute, 122 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:35,240 and adding that prosecutors had secured two experts to testify 123 00:07:35,279 --> 00:07:38,519 that sex accuse victims minimize what happened to them until 124 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:42,399 they feel more secure about the interviewer. Well, that's pretty obvious, 125 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,040 and we can see Jane Doe wore them up to 126 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,759 Michelle Pegan as she's talking to her in the interview. 127 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,519 Another accuser was flagged for having brought several girls Devestein's home, 128 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,279 knowing that they were under age, and she has been 129 00:07:56,319 --> 00:08:01,399 given immunity for her testimony, though prosecutorsted that she is 130 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:04,639 very straightforward about Epstein's actions and her own, and that 131 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:07,519 members of the federal grand jury had seemed to believe her. 132 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,519 I think they're talking about Hailey Robson here and her 133 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:17,040 behavior and her activities while in Epstein's clutches. Now, there's 134 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,000 a bunch of dickheads out there that'll try and tell 135 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,279 you that Hailey Robson is some kind of gigantic human trafficker. 136 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,920 But let's remember that she fell into Epstein's clutches when 137 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:29,079 she was sixteen, and not only that, she spoke with 138 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,879 the police, not like she was hiding. She wasn't pulling 139 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,559 a Nadia Marsenkova. She didn't pull a Leslie Groff or 140 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,759 a Sarah kellen Vickers. She talked to the police. Maybe 141 00:08:38,759 --> 00:08:41,600 somebody should let Anna Pauline a Luna know that when 142 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,600 she's done with her interdimensional demons or whatever the fuck 143 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,200 she's up to. A third was mentioned as a credibility 144 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:51,879 risk after an arrest while a juvenile for marijuana possession 145 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,759 and shoplifting, while concerns were raised about a fourth accuser 146 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,840 over an arrest on drug charges and her dismissal from 147 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,279 a retail job Victoria's Secret for theft. So those are 148 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,000 the credibility issues, as Adjur would any of that matter 149 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,519 to you. If all the evidence was overwhelming, you had 150 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:14,279 the massage pads, I mean, the message pads, you had 151 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,360 all the corroborating evidence, you had all the circumstantial stuff 152 00:09:17,399 --> 00:09:20,879 we seen. Would that really matter to you? It wouldn't 153 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:23,960 to me, because guess what, even if those girls were 154 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,600 doing drugs and having sex and all the rest of 155 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:29,720 its shoplifting, they can still be abused. They can still 156 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:35,159 be taken advantage of. So stop the bullshit, follow the 157 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,120 evidence wherever it goes. The same accuser admittedly has used 158 00:09:40,159 --> 00:09:43,120 drugs since becoming involved with Epstein, but she seems to 159 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,840 have finished that phase of her life. Prosecutors also noted 160 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,039 that our allegations were backed up by phone and financial 161 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,000 records indicating Epstein paid her between three hundred and one 162 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:59,360 thousand four sexual favors. Ever, think she was using drugs 163 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,240 because Epstein was abusing her, that might have something to 164 00:10:02,279 --> 00:10:05,960 do with it, right, I mean, you know, correlation and all. 165 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,480 In a February two thousand and eight memo, prosecutors noted 166 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,080 that a fifth victim had given testimony to a state 167 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,679 grand jury during which she exhibited no hostility towards Epstein 168 00:10:17,039 --> 00:10:20,120 and said that she testified only because she was subpoenaed 169 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:23,559 to appear. Well, did you ever think that Epstein got 170 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,799 to her, reached out to her, paid her, threatened her, 171 00:10:25,879 --> 00:10:31,000 threatened her family. Holy shit, man, Her statements are well 172 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:34,440 corroborated by the telephone records, et CETERA. Prosecutor said of 173 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,399 this accuser. But as with the other girls, her past 174 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,200 is not pristine. If she's under age, it doesn't matter. 175 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,879 There's no coercion when someone's underage. That's it. You cannot 176 00:10:44,919 --> 00:10:48,360 have relations with her. Stupid. You can't traffick her. Stupid, 177 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,080 you can't coerce her. Stupid. Protective orders in the Southern 178 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,960 District of New York and Southern District of Florida had 179 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,159 initially prohibited the release of grand jury material in the 180 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,960 Epstein and max All cases, a senior DOJ official told 181 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,039 The Post on Thursday. Appearing before the House Oversight Committee 182 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,759 in September of twenty twenty five, Acosta told lawmakers that 183 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,679 securing a guilty verdict against Epstein would have been a crapshoot, 184 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,399 Borrowing the characterization of the case from an officer in 185 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,639 the Justice Departments Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section who work 186 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,000 briefly on the case. That's not true. We know that 187 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,559 CEOs was completely on board. Just go back and read 188 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,279 the OIG report, and again, that's why we do it. Well, 189 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,320 you think I have fun reading all those core documents. 190 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Not exactly the greatest time in the world, but it's necessary, 191 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:43,799 and I think it's important that all of you know 192 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,799 what's going on and not from these people telling you 193 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,159 directly from the source. That's how you form a real opinion. Right. Ultimately, 194 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,039 we just wanted the guy to go to jail, he 195 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,279 said of a much derided June two thousand and eight 196 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,279 non prosecution agreement. That's aw Epstein's are fewer than thirteen 197 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,759 months on a state charge of soliciting sex from a minor, 198 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:07,480 with much of that time spent on work release. Very 199 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,440 fair deal, very fair, the kind of deal everybody gets, right, 200 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,960 Certainly not the deal my family member got launched disaster 201 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,720 at prison for over six years for illegal gambling. But cool, 202 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:23,919 Jeffrey Epstein thirteen months, gets to go out do whatever 203 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,720 he wants and continue to abuse people while he's under 204 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:29,639 the custody of the state. Hell of a job, guys, 205 00:12:29,799 --> 00:12:32,399 hell of a job. Tell us about credibility issues some more, 206 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,399 though many victims refused to testify. Many victims had changing stories. 207 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:40,159 All of us understood why they had changing stories, but 208 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,039 they did, and defense counsel would have cross examination would 209 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,919 have been withering a cost to added, many of them 210 00:12:46,919 --> 00:12:49,799 had issues in their background, They had the MySpace pages, 211 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,000 they had priors that would have been used against them 212 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:55,120 by defense counsel. And that was at a time when 213 00:12:55,159 --> 00:12:58,559 in all candor, defense could be much much tougher on 214 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,320 victims on the stand, said the former US attorney, who 215 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,240 added that he considered the tactics used by Epstein's legal team, 216 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,879 which included famed advocate Alan Dershowitz and former independent counsel 217 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,039 Kenneth Starr, skirted the line of professional misconduct. Not skirted 218 00:13:14,039 --> 00:13:17,639 the line. They crossed the line many many times, and 219 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,320 alex Acosta didn't have the courage to stare them down. 220 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,799 Insteady acquiesced to everything that they demanded, and when he 221 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,080 didn't acquiesce to one of their requests, they just went 222 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:33,080 over his head with the non prosecution agreement. Acosta said, 223 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,919 we put him in jail, he registered as a sex offender, 224 00:13:36,039 --> 00:13:38,519 and the victims had an opportunity to recover and that 225 00:13:38,639 --> 00:13:40,799 was a win. Not true. You put him in jail, 226 00:13:40,919 --> 00:13:43,639 he kept abusing. Victims had a chance to recover. Which 227 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:46,759 ones point them out? Everybody likes to say victims this, 228 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:52,440 survivors that, which ones. They're not monolithic. These are all 229 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,879 different people with unique stories of abuse that they suffered 230 00:13:55,879 --> 00:13:59,200 at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein and his friends. It's 231 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:04,360 not monolithic looking at all of this. The ultimate judgment 232 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,799 was dear all the dice and if he gets away 233 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,360 with it, you're sending a signal to the community that 234 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,559 he can get away with it. Such bullshit. You sent 235 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,000 that signal to the community by not going hard. That 236 00:14:17,159 --> 00:14:20,559 was the signal you sent. Don't give us as bs. 237 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,200 You were scared to go after him at trial. Federal 238 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,399 prosecutors pursue shit all the time. That's way weaker than this. 239 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,399 It wasn't You didn't have the evidence, you didn't have 240 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,600 the courage. That's what it was. A senior DOJ official 241 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:38,960 toll reporters that roughly sixty thousand documents had been pulled 242 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,440 from the Epstein library and placed back under review to 243 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:47,639 ensure proper redactions of victim images or pornographic material. More 244 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:49,679 than three and a half million pages of the documents 245 00:14:49,879 --> 00:14:53,039 have been reviewed by DOJ employees and placed on the 246 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,879 library's web page since President Trump signed the Epstein Files 247 00:14:56,919 --> 00:15:00,639 Transparency Act into law last November YO. There's no such 248 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,000 thing as a perfect victim. All kinds of people can 249 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,360 be victimized, even people that have a checkered past, and 250 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:09,679 that doesn't make them liars. That doesn't mean we shouldn't 251 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:12,840 believe them. What we should do is look at all 252 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,879 the evidence provided and go from there. But they just 253 00:15:15,879 --> 00:15:19,000 skipped all of that and instead decided that it wasn't 254 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,840 worth pursuing in federal court, and they just kicked it 255 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:24,679 back down to state, because you know, that's what the 256 00:15:24,679 --> 00:15:28,519 federal government always does. So they can talk about credibility 257 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:31,200 issues all they want, But the only credibility issue I 258 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:34,240 see here isn't what the witness is. It's with the 259 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,240 DOJ itself. All the information that goes with this episode 260 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,240 can be found in the description box.