Speaker 1: Welcome to Political Beatdown. I don't know if I was just.
Speaker 2: You're a little frozen in for a second in the introduction.
Speaker 3: So here, let me take it off. Welcome.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put on my I'm gonna put on my
radio voice. Now, Welcome to Political beat Down and my
cells and yours, truly, Michael Cohen.
Speaker 1: It didn't show me. I mean, I think because I
was just getting off with what if I just stood
there for like ten minutes, but just so the people
know who are watching, I kept my stance though I
was very dedicated to that.
Speaker 2: You got to close the stands, just you gotta close
the stands just a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I didn't move, I didn't flinch. I was waiting
for I was waiting for it to go I was
waiting for it to go live. I assume what happened
is because I've been going back to back to back
lives and I was just live with Karen Freedman Magnifilo
discussing things that we can't necessarily discuss here on this show.
The stream yard software got a little confused. But anyway,
Michael Cohen, people don't need to hear the technicals that
Michael Cohen I'm welcome, And the first thing I just
want to ask you. There's obviously so much I want
to ask you. There's so much I want to talk
to you about. Obviously, you know, I respect the brigaders,
respect respect everybody respects that. You know, you've you've been
very clear that you are not going to be discussing
the events that are taking place in trial. And if
at all I veer into areas that discuss it or
may discuss it, you know, you'll just simply turn off
your camera. And this isn't something You're not on trial.
There's no gag order against Michael Cohen. You are a
subpoena witness. Donald Trump is the criminal defendant. But you
made I think a important call to do what you're doing,
and we obviously respect that. What I think I can
ask you, though, and everybody wants to know, is how
are you doing? How are you feeling right now? Are
you able to kind of just take some time to
yourself to do some hobbies like I want to speak
it not Michael co and the witness, Michael.
Speaker 3: Co and the person.
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what I hate. My entire life,
I've been somebody who was continuously active. I actually thrive
on the on the action. It's why I ended up
going to work at the organization in the first place.
And now I feel very much, if not even more so,
hindered in my life than even when I was on
home confinement. You know, no matter what you do, somebody
has something to comment about, you know. You know, Oh
my god. A buddy of mine calls me up and
he says to me, Hey, is this lady that's talking
about you on one of the shows. Because on your
TikTok show that I do at ten PM, I'm talking
about his baseball hats and his shoes and the sneakers.
And they actually showed like sixty seconds of people putting
funny you know, gifts on you and stuff like that,
and they're they're talking about, oh, well, he could be
ruining the case. He let me be clear, I will
not talk about this case. That was my promise. Am
I going to talk about sneakers? Am I going to
talk about an ugly hat?
Speaker 3: Fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But even that, I'm just I'm trying to find things
to do.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I've basically finished, I think almost every single decent show
that anybody has recommended. I'm taking these nice long walks
through Central Park, meeting up with friends over at my
favorite coffee place a couple blocks away, just sitting outside
enjoying the sun. You know, the stress is enormous, you know. Fortunately,
according to the doctor, I'm gonna be okay. So no
worries depending upon you know, when I finally you know,
finish and I finally testify. After that, I'm gonna end
up doing a stress test. There's a lot of pressure on,
you know, on me, and a lot of stupidity by
pundits that all have, you know, comments that they want
to make and so on. I just my comment to
everybody's let's just all take a little.
Speaker 3: Bit of a breather.
Speaker 2: And I am talking to myself here more than anybody.
Just take a little bit of a breather. Right, things
you can't stop. You can't stop time. It's the one
thing that no matter how rich or you know, that
you can't buy time. It is what it is. You know,
you go to sleep, you wake up. Is that the
day that they're gonna call me? I don't know, Maybe
it could be the day after. Sure, I have no clue,
and I wish that I think is what's probably given
me some anxiety. But but again I will not talk
about any of the specifics. I will not tell anything.
I am trying as hard as possible to stay away
from any news whatsoever. I can't tell you the number
of episodes I've seen of court dam below deck.
Speaker 3: Parking wars, I mean, neighborhood wars.
Speaker 2: I can't believe that this stupidity is actually on television.
But worse than that, Ben and Brigators, I can't believe
that I've been actually watching this shit. I feel stupider
today watching all of this. I feel much stupider than
ever before.
Speaker 1: So Cohen, as of now, though you don't know when
you're going to be called?
Speaker 3: Is that fair? That's fair to say?
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, but I will tell you, you know, one
of the things that I am trying to stay abreast
of is everything that's going on right now in the
college campuses, and it is it's.
Speaker 3: Really getting it's really getting ugly out there.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's and it's said because we were like, look. One
of the things that I have said on Mayakulpe, I've
said it here is that I do believe that between
women and gen Z that the election is going to
be a massive blue blue wave. Sadly though, I'm beginning,
you know, to even question the gen Z aspect.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't understand where this is all coming from. It
doesn't make sense. It's almost like everybody wants to get
in on the Instagram lives or the Facebook lives or
the social media lives in order to you know, project themselves.
It reminds me of like the Million Women March and
so on. You had people that were there and you're like, hey,
you know, what are you doing here there?
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I just heard that there was going to be, uh,
you know, some big march going, and I wanted to
you know, I wanted to put it up on my Instagram.
I I don't understand what's what's going on. Uh, there's
so much there's so much that is right about the protests,
but there's so much that is wrong about it too.
You know, peaceful protest, absolutely, but when you start barricading
yourself into schools, when you start intimidating and you know,
using threats and you know, anti semitic tropes against your
fellow students, this this I do not understand.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, Cohen, I think an important point you
made is talking about peaceful protests and everybody having the
right to peacefully protest and to advocate. You know, look,
my background before launching a media network was that I
represented and Colin Kaepernick, and was business partners with Colin Kaepernick,
who peacefully protested police brutality for which he was retaliated
against by taking a knee. He was, you know, not
doing it in any way other than kept to himself.
He was silent, and he was trying to and he
took a knee because it shows respect and he thought,
you know, also reverence to those lives that were lost
because the police brutality, and he wanted to do it
in a respectful way. And I reflect on that moment
and where I was. I didn't know I was going
to be launching a media network at that time, but
I remember what Donald Trump said at the time when
he was in Huntsville, Alabama. Trump said, get that sob
but he used the curseword off the field, and eventually
that's you know what happened in Colin's never been able
to really play another professional football game again. But reflecting
on Colin taking a knee peacefully protesting while the anthem
was playing frankly as a sign of respect, comparing that
to what we see now. Though, also with the fact
that Trump and the MAGA Republicans have changed our national anthem.
They have their own new version of our national anthem
that's sung by the January sixth insurrectionists and they play
the j sixth anthem. Also that our great American flag
has been changed, and now at all of the Trump
rallies they have Trump's image on it, or Trump's base
on it, or Trump's name on.
Speaker 3: It, you know.
Speaker 1: And then I think obviously about January sixth then how
the flags were being used as weapons to batter and
maime and harm and in some instances, you know, resulting
in the death of police officers, you know. And so
I fundamentally, you know, reflect on the importance of protest.
I mean, again, again with my background, especially representing Kaepernick,
I also think protests need to be peaceful protests, and
I respect the rights of everybody you know, to do that.
But one of the things that we have here though
as well in general, is there's a full fledge assault
though on our democracy. And I think that's what we're
facing right now. That's what we're confronting right now, and
with these arguments with the Supreme Court on this idea
of absolute immunity, as Judge Lutig, who spoke with Michael Popak, said,
it's in many ways unsouling our nation. The soul of
our nation is rooted in no man or no person
is above the law, and if you remove that concept,
then you really kind of remove why this nation. It's
as simple to me coin, I want to get your
take on this. Why our country was founded, how it
was founded. This isn't a complicated thing that you have
to do statutory construction or constitutional this or go to
read the federalist papers. I mean, our country was founded
because there was absolute immunity. It was called the king,
it was authoritarians. We were founded as a reaction to that.
So as I think about maga conservativism versus what conservativism
should be, conservativism should be about preserving our democratic democracy,
small D institutions. The maga version of this is conserving
the monarchy, conserving what existed throughout humankind.
Speaker 2: Dictator exactly what we had, exactly what we thought, it's
exactly what we fought to break away from. I mean,
that's just the simplest way of describing it. Why these
folks want to end up going back to a way
of life that we fought, that American blood was spilled
on our land in order to create what we have today, this,
you know, this democratic republic. You know, there's the ideal,
as you said, that that all men, you know, are
created equal, or actually all persons are created equal. I
mean to me, I don't understand what the Supreme Court
is doing. I am incredibly troubled by the Department of Justice.
I'm incredibly troubled by some of the decisions that the
Supreme Court are acting upon.
Speaker 3: And I get it.
Speaker 2: They have a different set of values than I. They
live by some theocratic old you know, the New Testament,
that their strict interpretation of it as opposed to the law.
I don't know if you saw this, but there was
a preacher and I'm gonna make it up for a second.
Maybe one of our brigaders can help me out here.
I think he's like in North Carolina, South Carolina, something
like that, a preacher, and he attacked the Trump Bible
with such ferocity, with such anger that nobody's supposed to
brand a Bible that it's blasphemous. Did anybody see that too,
North Carolina. Yeah, I was so.
Speaker 3: I was so.
Speaker 2: Taken back by him because normally, look, you know, I've
seen these shows my entire life.
Speaker 3: They've always intrigued me.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm close with the Fallwells, or at least
I used to be much closer. But I've been watching
you know, even since I was a little kid. I
was always mesmerized by Oral Roberts and the size of
the Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I used to
get a kick out of him walking back and forth,
and you know the theatrics that go on, but there
were no theatrics here. The fact that there is the
Bill of Rights of the Constitution in the back of
a Bible. How many times on this program bend on
this Midas Touched network, the network that you go to
when you want facts, not in not in nuendo. How
about how many times did we end up talking about
the fact that the Bible and constitutional Bill of Rights
or you know, we'll call it government documents should never
be attached to a Bible. It's the it's the definition
of the separation of church and state being violated. For
fifty nine to ninety nine and this this preacher was
so angry that people are actually buying it that, you know,
to have a branded Bible, the only the only this
no branding of the Bible. The Bible is branded the Bible,
right it's it's it's funny.
Speaker 3: It would be funny if it.
Speaker 2: Was if it wasn't true, but the fact that it
is true, it's not funny, it's pathetic.
Speaker 3: Then you're.
Speaker 1: Let me give you some Let me give you some
easy ones, Cohen that I think are some low hanging
fruit for you right here, which are big topics that
lots of people are discussing. Christy Nome, Christie Nome and
uh talking about how she killed her puppy cricket because
there wasn't hunting the way she wanted it to hunt.
And she willingly told this story in her new book.
And she's apparently going to the villages now in Florida
to promote this. And then she started talking about how
like then she like killed a goat right after she
apparently killed three horses on the same day. It was
odd that she like I understand, I really don't understand,
but like you know, if the time then three on
the same day here here here's a photo another photo
of Cricket that that we have of the dog that
she killed. I think we have it. But she then
goes and talks about how she go there. It is
I can understand why some people are upset about a
twenty year old story of Cricket, one of the working
dogs at a ranch. In my upcoming book, No Going Back,
the book is filled with many honest stories of my life,
good and bad days, challenges, painful decisions, and lessons learned.
And so the way Maga has kind of mutated now Cohen,
is she thinks that this story because in her kind
of bubble, she thought that this story was going to
be something that actually earned her cred that she killed
her puppy.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 1: It is so odd and strange. What do you what
do you make of that?
Speaker 3: Cohen?
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of Norman Bates, you know,
I mean, for God's sakes, this makes absolutely no sense
to me how she thought that any rational American, any
rational human being, your dog is barking, Your dog isn't
acting a puppy, isn't acting the way that she wants
it to do. So you take the dog, you put
it down, into a into a ditch, and then you
shoot it. And she thought she's going to become vice
president of the United States by shooting a puppy. I mean,
with a whole due respect. I mean, now I understand
why she likes Corey Lewandowski, why they're together. You know,
they're two basket cases.
Speaker 3: How do you turn her?
Speaker 2: What? Listen, if you don't want the dog, bring it
to a shelter, bring it to a next door neighbor.
I'm sure somebody would take your puppy. Right, there's no
dubt in my mind. People adopt dogs all the time. Instead. Instead,
she felt that she had to she had to terminate
this puppy's life because the puppy wasn't acting according to
the way that she wanted it to. It's a sick dementit.
And then to go and to try now, she announced, Now,
we're in damage control business, baby, and there's nobody that
knows damage controlled better than you. All right, So she's
now out there trying to say it's not true. It's
not in my book. You know, cricket died, that that died,
whatever it might be. You know, she realized that she
put her foot in her mouth right. The problem is
that the shoeing. The shoe doesn't taste like peppermint. That
I can tell you. But the fact I don't care
if you're a Republican, if you're a Democrat, I don't care.
If you're independent. I don't care if you're old, if
you're young. It makes no difference what generation you follow.
You shoot a puppy, you're a piece of shit.
Speaker 1: Well, will reserve potential two finger salute there. But I'm
going to give you a number of candidates right now.
So we have Christy Nome who's eligible for the two
finger salute. Let me show you.
Speaker 2: No matter what I just I'm gonna I'm gonna get
a little hint to everybody.
Speaker 3: She's number one on my list.
Speaker 2: Well, anybody that kills a puppy a piece of shit
as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 1: Well, here's Vivek Ramaswami at a recent speech where he
talks about how the founding fathers they're the ones who
will hold people accountable in the afterlife. Here at play
this clip.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be every one of you, every one of
us doing our part as well for this country, and
when we face our founding fathers, in the afterlife and
they ask us what sacrifice did you make for your country?
Speaker 3: We better have a damn good answer for them, and
we will.
Speaker 6: This is a seventeen seventy six moment in our country.
Speaker 1: I don't say that, Land, I don't even know what
you're saying. Viveke, this is a seventeen seventy six moment.
It must be so easy, like if you don't give
a crap about anything, going to just go on there
and just say this is a seventeen seventy six moment,
and our founding fathers they will be waiting for each
of you to judge if you are true patriots, how
big of a patriot. It's like the moment, why are
you even talking? This is some weird to ask him.
Speaker 2: I would personally like to ask him, what have you
ever done for this country? Did you serve in the military.
Did you go to war in order to protect our
democratic republic? Let me ask you this. Have you gone
ahead and have you testified before Congress seven times? Did
you assist the Moler team right? Did you hold you know,
individuals accountable for their dirty deeds?
Speaker 3: Or what did you do?
Speaker 2: You ran a race and you ended up you know, winning,
you know, winning an election, you fooled a bunch of people.
Speaker 3: I mean, what did you do to.
Speaker 2: Benefit anybody else? And the answer is not a goddamn thing.
We all know how he made his money. But this
fucking jerk off is up there and you have people
standing there and applauding and clapping for him. What are
you saying? What are you saying? Seventeen seventy six, right,
this wasn't compared to twenty twenty four. Think about how
this country has progressed since seventeen seventy six to twenty
twenty four.
Speaker 3: Think about it. Now, let's go back a.
Speaker 2: Little over a year or so before the overturning of
Roe v. Wade via the Dogs decision. And then you
turn around and say, well, whoa, if we're on one
of those mathematical scales, right, we're now we hit the
top of that and we're actually on a decline. So
I don't understand what they're talking about. I mean, the
level of hatred, you know, between Republicans and Democrats, the
fact that you have you know, now this of anti semitism, islamophobia.
I mean, what are we doing? We're so much as
forget about just as Americans, we are so much better
than this. We are so much better than somebody like
Vivek Ramaswami, all right, who is standing up on a
stage basically calling for another civil war in this country,
but a civil war between their sort of eighteen sixty
four ideals in values as compared to the values that
we should have and more in the year twenty twenty four.
I don't understand. It's all for them about becoming the
elite class. You see, that's what they see right now,
that they could become the elite class by shifting to
that direction, right by following one in individual, following him,
raising money off of it, and they will be as
we have in with Vladimir Putin. They will be the oligarchs.
Speaker 1: Christino Vivek. We're gonna we're doing a list right here.
Here we have Rudy Giuliani on the right wing media,
and here's what he said that MAGA Mike Johnson should
be doing in terms of withholding aid to Ukraine unless
uh President Selenski turns over to the magas in the
House of Representative a Biden file. You know, it sounds
like deja vu to me, but this is what Giuliani.
It's a confession. But this is what Giuliani just said.
Play the clip.
Speaker 7: Hitting with Brennan when they were hatching when when he
was informed of Hillary coming up with the false plot.
It should begin with him, and it should. It should
include Brennan, It should include Biden, the vice president who
approved it and helped out. They should bring over from
Ukraine about twenty Ukrainian witnesses. I can get them that
are still being held there. A couple I've found out
very recently are in here a dath and they should.
Somebody should lean on, ze Lynsky. You want another penny,
Give us your Biden, give us your Biden.
Speaker 1: File said, somebody should hold on.
Speaker 2: Wait, can we go back and see if somebody can't
figure out what kind of painting that was. Maybe it's
a well known artist or something, because I'm sure Ruby
Freeman and Shay Moss, you know, would like to grab
a hold of that too as part of the Julianius eighth.
Somebody needs to go, hey, I'm going to send that
to a friend of mine who's actually an art dealer,
and I.
Speaker 3: See, maybe maybe it's like the cooning.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's uh, you know, maybe it's a famous artist
or something a debouchet, right, could you you imagine? And
then all of a sudden like, well, hold on that,
Rudy Kaludi, drunken Juliani, you psychopath? Right, don't you owe
something like one hundred million dollars to Ruby Freeman and
Shine Moss. We're gonna stop by, We're going to take
control over that painting.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very odd placement of that painting though too.
Here show it one more time, not the video, just
the photo of it. Like the way he's positioned right there.
You know, you have like the moldings on the wall,
like why would you randomly like why it's off balanced?
Why is it even there? Anyway? I could definitely give
you my whole esthetic room rating of that. But let's
talk about that one. That one we get to one
point two. That's like that's like that's like a bed
Dave Portnoy pizza. Yeah, I think he gave a rating
like that from I think it was a Costco pizza
with the bad flop, too much oil and.
Speaker 2: The cheese was just not not tasty. He gave like
a one point too. I give that room raid Er
David por No one point two.
Speaker 1: He's basically saying to the Maga Republicans in the House
of Representatives to lean on, basically extort President Zelenski that
you won't fund Ukraine's defense from the unlawful invasion of
Russia unless duce Biden file, which is a made up
concept and a made up thing. But lean on them
to dig up dirt in a presidential I mean, that's
what and he's just saying. And I I anyway, I
was going to make a connection that I can't necessarily make,
but focus on Rudy. I won't go bring in the
other point I wanted to make, but bring to talk
about just Rudy and Rudy's statement right there, we don't
have to talk.
Speaker 3: There's nothing.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's there really to talk about. Didn't he
get himself already into enough trouble. I mean, he's already
losing his apartment here in the city. He's going to
lose his house or his apartment in Florida and Palm Beach.
Lord knows where he's going to live. It's certainly not
going to be with his idiot son Andrew. I mean,
this kid, this kid can't find himself. You know, he
can't find himself in a one man hide and seek game.
It's it's incredible. I saw there was something on, whether
it was TikTok or Instagram. His son was at some
rally and the guy comes over to him and he said,
I'm Andrew Julian And he goes, Wait, the you mean
related to the guy who had the stuff dripping from
he goes?
Speaker 3: So he goes, he goes. He refused to acknowledge that
Rudy was his father or something like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is just seriously, it's it's becoming a
clown show of stupidity. He realizes at the end of
the day he's going to be left with nothing. America's
mayor at one time is going to end up being
a homeless charge. Can you imagine this? I mean, talk
about how many more people have to follow in my
in my footsteps, how many more people have to turn
around and lose everything. I told Rudy that this was
going to happen. I told Mark Meadows, this is going
to happen. Did I not yell it loud enough when
I was the railroaded? Could when you have Christina, Bob
John Eastman, you have I mean, god, how many more
people are going to end up, you know, losing their
law license, losing their livelihood, their honor, their reputation, their
family's happiness, all of for for what, all for what?
For the prospect that's never going to happen. By the way,
the interesting thing in Rudy's bankruptcy proceeding. Could you imagine
that the single greatest asset in Rudy's bankruptcy preceding filing
is the outstanding legal fees owed to him by the
former president. Could you imagine this that's the largest asset.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I have a lot more to say
on that, and I'm sure you may as well, but
we'll save that for future episodes of political beat down
there as well. So we went through Christy Nome, We
talked about Vivek, we talked about Rudy Giuliani. When we
get back, I want to talk about James Comer, I
want to talk about Jared Kushner, and then we'll have
you vote for who's going to win your two finger
salute with all of these people.
Speaker 2: He also want to just bring up thanks to all
of our brigaders and everything that they're doing in terms
of with the help with the GoFundMe and everything between
Donia Perry who's my lawyer, and Justin Nelson, who's the
famous defamation lawyer that actually sued Fox and got that
seven hundred plus million dollar verdict. An fully retracted and apologized.
Think about this ben a far right wing media network
apologizing to Michael Cohen about a story that is a lie,
that was fake.
Speaker 3: So hopefully we'll get to that too.
Speaker 1: I definitely want to talk about that first. In fact,
when we come back from this quick break.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're live on Political beat Down. That's great
to be here with you. Michael Cohen, I'm Cohen. I'm
just gonna read your statement. I'm not going to ask
that you react to this one. You just a statement
that you gave generally to the press, so I feel
comfortable reading it if we can pull it up. Cohen
wrote that the imposed fine this is regarding the gag
order violations that we're found today in court. The imposed
fine is irrelevant. Justice Mrshan's decision elucidates that this behavior
will not be tolerated and that no one is above
the law. Let me just leave it there, and co
I don't want you to even respond further. That's your
statement that you put out publicly. I do want to
say this as well, and I think it's fair for
me to say, no, we only had one sponsorship block today.
And as I was reflecting on this ABC story that
has like, you know, I don't want you to respond
to it either, but I just want to make this
point that has you on TikTok, and it was like, oh, look,
Cohen doing all of these things. Like I can tell
you from being an executive here at the Minus Touch
network that we used to have two sponsorship blocks. It's
certainly less now as a result of you know, as
a result of the proceedings. And it's actually not you
you know, it's actually there's a lot that I can't
talk about that I you know, that I'm doing on
a separate show. So you know, any of that that's
out there is just simply you know, you know, in
my own perspective, revetted by the reality of the situation.
So let me just leave it at that. But you
are able to talk about the Oan situation, So I
want to hear from you there, Cohen, about Oan and
what went down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what happened was they put out this story.
We talked about it here on Beatdown a while back,
claiming that it was I who was having the affair
with Stormy, and that Stormy and I concocted a plan
in twenty sixteen to extort Trump and the corporate and
the Trump organization out of money before the presidential race.
And where did they come up with this ingenious story,
this fantastical story, Some guy named Tony Saruga who is
allegedly friends with Michael Avnatti or he was business partners,
or they shared an office or something like that. And
obviously Avenadi then came out and said, it's bullshit. Seruga
just you know, he just wants to be relevant and
get his name into the paper. And he denied it,
of course, and the whole thing is so stupid anyway,
So I sent to cease and desist. Was then contacted
by OAN's general counsel. I then turned the entire file
over to Justin Nelson, the attorney. As I was saying,
before they got the seven hundred million dollar verdict against
Fox and Oan and so on, and in conjunction with
Donia Perry, who was my lawyer, within about two weeks,
we had a statement that was put out. They did
a full retraction, they removed it from their website and
apologized for any harm that the article may have caused me.
You know, it's a wind because it's about time that
people start holding these these companies to task when it
comes to defamation, slander and so on.
Speaker 3: And it's you know what.
Speaker 2: Most people don't understand, because thank god, you've never been
through it, But these sort of articles when they get when,
when they get regurgitated and promoted over and over and
over again, between the oa NS, the Newsmax, the Fox
and so on, as well as the entire Magamoronic cult,
this is what ends up happening. It just it becomes overwhelming.
Even for somebody who has incredibly thick skin and has
been down this road before, it is overwhelming and it
is mentally taxing. So I am extremely thankful and appreciative
that o An did the right thing, retracted the statement,
apologized and removed it and shut the shit right down.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it was great work. And you know, you
standing up for yourself not backing down. You know a
lot of people would have just been like, hey, whatever,
you know, that's just I'm just gonna let it happen,
not you. And I think that's one of the things
we all appreciate about what you about what you do.
We've talked about Christy Nome, the veg Gramaswame Rudy Giuliani.
Next up on my list is Maga Republican James Comer,
who chairs the House Oversight Committee. His new talking point
last night when he did the right wing media circuit
is that the reason his impeachment investigation is stalled is
actually because there is too much evidence. He says, here,
play this clip.
Speaker 8: Here's a sixty four thousand dollars question, Chairman, and do
we hold them accountable for perjury or evading taxes?
Speaker 9: A lot a lot at evading taxes, many financial crimes.
The reason that this has taken so long, in addition
to the obstruction for the White Heath, is there's more
evidence that comes in every day.
Speaker 1: Ween you know, he's too cowardly to even hold hearings
anymore because Jared Moskowitz, Jamie Raskin, you know others in
the house, Jasmine Crockett. Here he is again, and this
is just a funny moment where he's basically just trying
to make fetch happen. Take a look at this.
Speaker 8: Tell us what you've found. You've got some new news
here that may really implicate Jim Biden and Hunter tell
us about it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, this isn't more evidence of influence peddling. This
is what we've been saying for the past year.
Speaker 1: Let me show you.
Speaker 2: It's really a shame because I know Eric Bowling. I've
known him for a long time and as well as
his wife, and I'm so disappointed. He's better, I'm telling you,
and Brigaders don't get angry at me for saying this,
because he's a Fox News guy. He's better than this,
and he fucking knows it, right, He knows better. He's
been through terrible shit in his life. He knows he
knows what he's doing. The question becomes why why? It
makes no sense. He knows what he's saying is horseshit.
He's laughing at the stupidity of Comer, and more so,
he's laughing at the stupidity of the people that voted
for Comer to become a representative.
Speaker 3: This is it's such a shame.
Speaker 2: They all know better, but for whatever the reason is,
they have gone down this this dumpster hole, right, this
gigantic hole, and fell right into this dumpster cult. I
don't understand what I'd have so much we would all
have so much more respect for him if he would
stand up and he would say what he really believes in,
what he really means, and the same name, Well.
Speaker 1: You just gotta follow the money. It's actually next he's
a Newsmax and they gave him his own show. He
goes out, he says these ridiculous things. They've got a
base of people who eat this stuff up. And you know,
he fancies himself as you know, like a Hannity, like
a Tucker, and he wasn't able to really reach his
dreams or what he thought he could achieve. So what
do you do. You know, you go and you say
this ridiculous stuff, and you get a whole base of
people who eat this up, and you feed lies to
people who don't want to deal with complicated issues. And
the reality is, though Cohen like, at the same time,
you have Comer saying that, right, here's one of the
things that we do know. I mean, he's still talking
about Hunter, Hunter, Biden, Hunter this, Hunter that. And then
when they had the opportunity to have Hunter actually testify live,
when Hunters showed up, none of them actually asked Hunter questions.
But take a look at this. Here's a chart I
think we have it right here of Kushner's Middle East
deals from affinity partners. So while the MAGA Republicans are
complaining about things that like when President Biden was not
even the vice president and not the president, he loaned
Hunter four thousand dollars, right, That's one of the main accusations.
The other stuff is like they use whistleblowers from Russia
who are not really whistleblowers, Like they use foreign agents
from Russia, barign agents from the CCP against a sitting president.
Here's just undisputed facts staring us all in the face.
That while Kushner was in office and right as he left,
you know, he was appointed to lead Middle East policy
and then he was like negotiating these deals. I think
while he was ill in these positions, Kushner raised three
point one billion dollars and basically all of it from
foreign places like Katar, Uae, Saudi Arabia, other non US countries.
Saudi Arabia gave him two billion dollars, UAE two hundred
million dollars, Qatar two hundred million dollars, and other foreign
nations six hundred and twenty five million dollars. You have
MBS the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia saying that Kushner
is in his pocket. You had this exclusive from the
Daily Mail that went unrebutted. Saudi Crown Prince Bragg that
Jared Kushner gave him CIA intelligence about other Saudi saying,
here are your enemies, days before corruption crackdown which led
to torture and death. And here's Jared Kushner recently, in
an interview with Axios, asks about the billions of dollars
received from Saudi Arabia, and Kushner goes, you know, are
we really still talking about this or are you really
still at is this still a thing?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: Play this clip.
Speaker 5: The d and I report came out a couple of
weeks after you left the White House. It says that
MBS personally was responsible. Do you agree with the DNI
do you or do you believe that report?
Speaker 1: Are we really still doing this?
Speaker 8: Dan?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 7: So let's go to this.
Speaker 1: Then, finally, Cohen, here's what Jim Jordan recently said about
Jared Kushner. Let's play this.
Speaker 8: Clip and Dan Goldman. I don't think we have the
sound by queue up, but I think Dan Goldman came
out and said, oh yeah, one hundred and nothing to
do with foreign governments. But Jared Kushner did that narrative
come up?
Speaker 4: Again. I'm not going to get into what came up
in this in this uh interview today, this deposition, but
the idea that Jared Kushner did something wrong is ridiculous.
I mean, the Trump family that has been an investigative
more than any family on the planet, and what they've
what they're attempted to do to President Trump and been
doing to President Trump over the last seven years is unbelievable.
So again, I don't want to get into that, but
I will say this all let's do this, let's see this.
Speaker 1: I want you to focus your answer here Kushnan, now
not on he who's not named on the show for now,
but on Kushner, on right wing media, on James Comer,
and where you have Kushner's conduct staring us in the
face that is the most egregious of egregious, and you
hear that level of lies and gaslighting.
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is that many people who watched that
show or have seen that clip, they're all saying the
same thing. Of course, this corruption that went on here
Jared is not a hedge fun guy. In fact, Jared
is known in New York as being one of the
worst real estate guys in the city's history, especially with
the single worst real estate deal ever done in New
York City, and that was the acquisition of sixty sixty
six Fifth Avenue, which if in fact that it went
under which it was supposed to do, would have caused
potentially the Kushner company with his daddy started to go
bankrupt somehow or another, not partaving sixty sixty six Fifth Avenue.
All right, So what ends up happening is I think
it was Qatar that bailed out the building through Brookfield
Properties or something like that, and they ended up putting
like over two hundred million dollars into their pocket what
was supposed to be a complete and total loss considering
they overspent in the acquisition of it twenty some years ago.
He is he is not. He is not somebody that
Mohammad Ben Salman, the Saudi Investment Authority, the Katari Investment
Authority would normally give their money, which is why MBS
turned around and said I don't care. After the Finance
division of the Saudi Investment Authority said no, he doesn't
meet our standards, MBS turned around and said give it
to him. So when you start seeing people like MBS
saying I got him in my pocket, or that they
showed him CIA top secret CIA information that led to
the roundup of all of the other members of the
various royal families where NBS had them sign over their funds.
Let me tell you this, on three billion dollars, with
the way that affinity works, they get two and twenty.
Speaker 3: He's pulling down. So we can all laugh.
Speaker 2: At this, at this fucking scarecrow he's pulling down. Or
if that three point one billion, every January one he
gets to write himself a check for sixty million dollars,
all right, and whatever profit that they make, I think
they're taking twenty percent of the profit.
Speaker 3: So who's laughing at who?
Speaker 1: Well, we should all be outraged. And it shouldn't be
a Democrat or Republican thing, this team or that team thing.
I know that's the way politics is right now. But
why I wanted to show the video in that series,
what James Comer was saying to what is actually undisputed
before our eyes and what you and I like to
talk about on this show, are really the undisputed facts.
Part of why we call this show political beatdown is
a beatdown on politics that's trying to prevent us from
getting at the facts. It's a beatdown on the spin.
It's just focus on these things. Yes, you and I
will have strong opinions once we lay out the facts,
but we don't start with anger or outrage. We start
with the facts and then we share our respective views.
So Cohen.
Speaker 3: Have anger and outrage all the time.
Speaker 2: You know you on the other hand, Ben, you know
you You balance me.
Speaker 3: You know that. That's why.
Speaker 1: That's why the show works. And I've made a career
of balancing people. That's one's the one skill set that
I am is balancing people. All Right, we got Christino,
vivek Ramaswami, you have Juliani, You've got Comer, and I'll
just throw a Kushner on the list. Just because you've
got to give the two finger salute to just one,
Michael Cohen, I know you may want to give it
to everybody. That's a cop out. It has to go
to one, and you got to explain why, and we'll
leave it there. Who do you give it to?
Speaker 3: Christine?
Speaker 2: Hands down, I don't don't even think that an explanation
is warranted. I think anybody that wants to brag about
killing a puppy in this case, this cute cricket has
to get the two fingers salute. In fact, I'll tell
you what I'd really like to see, based upon all
the information that we now have, I would like to
see the authority show up to her house and you know,
and indict her to be honest with you for animal cruelty.
All right, she is, she's she's a sad excuse for,
you know, for a human being to shoot a puppy
because it's what the dog wasn't acting the way that
you wanted to.
Speaker 3: I mean that just that just.
Speaker 2: Goes to a whole another level of somebody's got some
real problems.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: You have it. Rest in peace, cricket. Rest in peace, cricket,
Not to you, cricket.
Speaker 3: That's for Christine.
Speaker 1: No, that's not for cricket. That's not for resting cricket.
Speaker 3: We give one of those.
Speaker 1: Christy crickets the heart. I want to thank everybody for watching.
Thank you for our pro democracy sponsors who are sticking
with this program.
Speaker 3: We are going great.
Speaker 2: Thank you for all the love that you keep showing
to me. You have no idea, you know, I don't
know if you could see it, even my clothes.
Speaker 3: And now much bigger. I'm down.
Speaker 2: I'm down twenty six pounds, right, I mean literally twenty
six pounds. It's so hard to eat. I'm so wound
up over all of this shit, waiting every single day
to get a phone call from my lawyer who's going
to tell me when I'm going. But together we'll get
through it, you know. And I thank you Ben, and
I thank Jordie, and I thank Bread and Jeremy and
Salty and the entire Mitus Touch Network team, every you know, everybody.
I get phone calls just so you guys know from
you know, from the brothers and and everybody there at
the company. You're on a regular basis, how you're holding up,
You're holding up everything, Okay.
Speaker 3: You know. It's a lot of pressure, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's not pressure because of the questions or worrying
about cross examination.
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit.
Speaker 2: There's nothing that anybody can say to me that's going
to get me to change my story. It's been the
same story for six years. It's the it's the whole
work up to it you know, it's like it's like
an exam. Think about it that way, right, You study
for the exam, you know everything cold, but you still
have that nervous tension before the exam starts, despite the
fact on how prepared you are for it.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just a human reaction.
Speaker 2: So I thank you, Ben, and I thank all our
brigaders for being a part of this journey with me.
We're not we're not finished. We haven't crossed the finished line,
but soon enough.
Speaker 1: We're all here for you, Cohen, we appreciate you and
Cohen and I appreciate all of you brigadors. Thank you
for watching, Thank you for sticking with us. Thank you
for respecting that there are certain areas that we can
no longer discuss on the show and still making this
a hugely popular episode with a lot of people in here.
Thank you for that. And we feed off of your
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