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Speaker 1: Welcome to Political Beatdown. I don't know if I was just.

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Speaker 2: You're a little frozen in for a second in the introduction.

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Speaker 3: So here, let me take it off. Welcome.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put on my I'm gonna put on my

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radio voice. Now, Welcome to Political beat Down and my

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cells and yours, truly, Michael Cohen.

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Speaker 1: It didn't show me. I mean, I think because I

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was just getting off with what if I just stood

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there for like ten minutes, but just so the people

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know who are watching, I kept my stance though I

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was very dedicated to that.

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Speaker 2: You got to close the stands, just you gotta close

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the stands just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't move, I didn't flinch. I was waiting

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for I was waiting for it to go I was

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waiting for it to go live. I assume what happened

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is because I've been going back to back to back

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lives and I was just live with Karen Freedman Magnifilo

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discussing things that we can't necessarily discuss here on this show.

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The stream yard software got a little confused. But anyway,

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Michael Cohen, people don't need to hear the technicals that

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Michael Cohen I'm welcome, And the first thing I just

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want to ask you. There's obviously so much I want

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to ask you. There's so much I want to talk

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to you about. Obviously, you know, I respect the brigaders,

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respect respect everybody respects that. You know, you've you've been

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very clear that you are not going to be discussing

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the events that are taking place in trial. And if

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at all I veer into areas that discuss it or

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may discuss it, you know, you'll just simply turn off

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your camera. And this isn't something You're not on trial.

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There's no gag order against Michael Cohen. You are a

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subpoena witness. Donald Trump is the criminal defendant. But you

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made I think a important call to do what you're doing,

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and we obviously respect that. What I think I can

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ask you, though, and everybody wants to know, is how

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are you doing? How are you feeling right now? Are

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you able to kind of just take some time to

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yourself to do some hobbies like I want to speak

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it not Michael co and the witness, Michael.

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Speaker 3: Co and the person.

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Speaker 2: So I'll tell you what I hate. My entire life,

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I've been somebody who was continuously active. I actually thrive

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on the on the action. It's why I ended up

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going to work at the organization in the first place.

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And now I feel very much, if not even more so,

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hindered in my life than even when I was on

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home confinement. You know, no matter what you do, somebody

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has something to comment about, you know. You know, Oh

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my god. A buddy of mine calls me up and

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he says to me, Hey, is this lady that's talking

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about you on one of the shows. Because on your

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TikTok show that I do at ten PM, I'm talking

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about his baseball hats and his shoes and the sneakers.

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And they actually showed like sixty seconds of people putting

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funny you know, gifts on you and stuff like that,

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and they're they're talking about, oh, well, he could be

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ruining the case. He let me be clear, I will

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not talk about this case. That was my promise. Am

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I going to talk about sneakers? Am I going to

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talk about an ugly hat?

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Speaker 3: Fuck? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: But even that, I'm just I'm trying to find things

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to do.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I've basically finished, I think almost every single decent show

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that anybody has recommended. I'm taking these nice long walks

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through Central Park, meeting up with friends over at my

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favorite coffee place a couple blocks away, just sitting outside

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enjoying the sun. You know, the stress is enormous, you know. Fortunately,

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according to the doctor, I'm gonna be okay. So no

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worries depending upon you know, when I finally you know,

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finish and I finally testify. After that, I'm gonna end

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up doing a stress test. There's a lot of pressure on,

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you know, on me, and a lot of stupidity by

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pundits that all have, you know, comments that they want

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to make and so on. I just my comment to

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everybody's let's just all take a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit of a breather.

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Speaker 2: And I am talking to myself here more than anybody.

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Just take a little bit of a breather. Right, things

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you can't stop. You can't stop time. It's the one

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thing that no matter how rich or you know, that

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you can't buy time. It is what it is. You know,

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you go to sleep, you wake up. Is that the

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day that they're gonna call me? I don't know, Maybe

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it could be the day after. Sure, I have no clue,

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and I wish that I think is what's probably given

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me some anxiety. But but again I will not talk

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about any of the specifics. I will not tell anything.

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I am trying as hard as possible to stay away

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from any news whatsoever. I can't tell you the number

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of episodes I've seen of court dam below deck.

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Speaker 3: Parking wars, I mean, neighborhood wars.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that this stupidity is actually on television.

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But worse than that, Ben and Brigators, I can't believe

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that I've been actually watching this shit. I feel stupider

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today watching all of this. I feel much stupider than

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ever before.

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Speaker 1: So Cohen, as of now, though you don't know when

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you're going to be called?

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Speaker 3: Is that fair? That's fair to say?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, but I will tell you, you know, one

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of the things that I am trying to stay abreast

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of is everything that's going on right now in the

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college campuses, and it is it's.

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Speaker 3: Really getting it's really getting ugly out there.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's and it's said because we were like, look. One

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of the things that I have said on Mayakulpe, I've

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said it here is that I do believe that between

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women and gen Z that the election is going to

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be a massive blue blue wave. Sadly though, I'm beginning,

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you know, to even question the gen Z aspect.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand where this is all coming from. It

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doesn't make sense. It's almost like everybody wants to get

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in on the Instagram lives or the Facebook lives or

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the social media lives in order to you know, project themselves.

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It reminds me of like the Million Women March and

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so on. You had people that were there and you're like, hey,

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you know, what are you doing here there?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I just heard that there was going to be, uh,

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you know, some big march going, and I wanted to

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you know, I wanted to put it up on my Instagram.

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I I don't understand what's what's going on. Uh, there's

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so much there's so much that is right about the protests,

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but there's so much that is wrong about it too.

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You know, peaceful protest, absolutely, but when you start barricading

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yourself into schools, when you start intimidating and you know,

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using threats and you know, anti semitic tropes against your

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fellow students, this this I do not understand.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, Cohen, I think an important point you

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made is talking about peaceful protests and everybody having the

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right to peacefully protest and to advocate. You know, look,

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my background before launching a media network was that I

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represented and Colin Kaepernick, and was business partners with Colin Kaepernick,

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who peacefully protested police brutality for which he was retaliated

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against by taking a knee. He was, you know, not

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doing it in any way other than kept to himself.

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He was silent, and he was trying to and he

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took a knee because it shows respect and he thought,

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you know, also reverence to those lives that were lost

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because the police brutality, and he wanted to do it

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in a respectful way. And I reflect on that moment

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and where I was. I didn't know I was going

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to be launching a media network at that time, but

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I remember what Donald Trump said at the time when

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he was in Huntsville, Alabama. Trump said, get that sob

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but he used the curseword off the field, and eventually

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that's you know what happened in Colin's never been able

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to really play another professional football game again. But reflecting

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on Colin taking a knee peacefully protesting while the anthem

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was playing frankly as a sign of respect, comparing that

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to what we see now. Though, also with the fact

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that Trump and the MAGA Republicans have changed our national anthem.

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They have their own new version of our national anthem

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that's sung by the January sixth insurrectionists and they play

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the j sixth anthem. Also that our great American flag

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has been changed, and now at all of the Trump

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rallies they have Trump's image on it, or Trump's base

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on it, or Trump's name on.

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Speaker 3: It, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then I think obviously about January sixth then how

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the flags were being used as weapons to batter and

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maime and harm and in some instances, you know, resulting

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in the death of police officers, you know. And so

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I respect the rights of everybody you know, to do that.

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But one of the things that we have here though

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as well in general, is there's a full fledge assault

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though on our democracy. And I think that's what we're

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facing right now. That's what we're confronting right now, and

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with these arguments with the Supreme Court on this idea

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of absolute immunity, as Judge Lutig, who spoke with Michael Popak, said,

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it's in many ways unsouling our nation. The soul of

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our nation is rooted in no man or no person

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is above the law, and if you remove that concept,

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then you really kind of remove why this nation. It's

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as simple to me coin, I want to get your

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take on this. Why our country was founded, how it

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was founded. This isn't a complicated thing that you have

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to do statutory construction or constitutional this or go to

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read the federalist papers. I mean, our country was founded

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because there was absolute immunity. It was called the king,

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it was authoritarians. We were founded as a reaction to that.

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So as I think about maga conservativism versus what conservativism

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should be, conservativism should be about preserving our democratic democracy,

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small D institutions. The maga version of this is conserving

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the monarchy, conserving what existed throughout humankind.

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Speaker 2: Dictator exactly what we had, exactly what we thought, it's

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exactly what we fought to break away from. I mean,

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that's just the simplest way of describing it. Why these

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of life that we fought, that American blood was spilled

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on our land in order to create what we have today, this,

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you know, this democratic republic. You know, there's the ideal,

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as you said, that that all men, you know, are

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created equal, or actually all persons are created equal. I

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mean to me, I don't understand what the Supreme Court

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is doing. I am incredibly troubled by the Department of Justice.

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I'm incredibly troubled by some of the decisions that the

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Supreme Court are acting upon.

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Speaker 3: And I get it.

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Speaker 2: They have a different set of values than I. They

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live by some theocratic old you know, the New Testament,

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that their strict interpretation of it as opposed to the law.

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I don't know if you saw this, but there was

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a preacher and I'm gonna make it up for a second.

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Maybe one of our brigaders can help me out here.

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I think he's like in North Carolina, South Carolina, something

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like that, a preacher, and he attacked the Trump Bible

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with such ferocity, with such anger that nobody's supposed to

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brand a Bible that it's blasphemous. Did anybody see that too,

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North Carolina. Yeah, I was so.

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Speaker 3: I was so.

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Speaker 2: Taken back by him because normally, look, you know, I've

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seen these shows my entire life.

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Speaker 3: They've always intrigued me.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm close with the Fallwells, or at least

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I used to be much closer. But I've been watching

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you know, even since I was a little kid. I

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was always mesmerized by Oral Roberts and the size of

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the Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I used to

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get a kick out of him walking back and forth,

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and you know the theatrics that go on, but there

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were no theatrics here. The fact that there is the

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Bill of Rights of the Constitution in the back of

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a Bible. How many times on this program bend on

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this Midas Touched network, the network that you go to

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when you want facts, not in not in nuendo. How

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about how many times did we end up talking about

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the fact that the Bible and constitutional Bill of Rights

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be attached to a Bible. It's the it's the definition

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of the separation of church and state being violated. For

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fifty nine to ninety nine and this this preacher was

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so angry that people are actually buying it that, you know,

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to have a branded Bible, the only the only this

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no branding of the Bible. The Bible is branded the Bible,

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right it's it's it's funny.

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Speaker 3: It would be funny if it.

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Speaker 2: Was if it wasn't true, but the fact that it

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is true, it's not funny, it's pathetic.

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Speaker 3: Then you're.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you some Let me give you some

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easy ones, Cohen that I think are some low hanging

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fruit for you right here, which are big topics that

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lots of people are discussing. Christy Nome, Christie Nome and

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uh talking about how she killed her puppy cricket because

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there wasn't hunting the way she wanted it to hunt.

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And she willingly told this story in her new book.

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And she's apparently going to the villages now in Florida

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to promote this. And then she started talking about how

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like then she like killed a goat right after she

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apparently killed three horses on the same day. It was

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odd that she like I understand, I really don't understand,

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but like you know, if the time then three on

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the same day here here here's a photo another photo

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of Cricket that that we have of the dog that

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she killed. I think we have it. But she then

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goes and talks about how she go there. It is

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I can understand why some people are upset about a

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twenty year old story of Cricket, one of the working

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dogs at a ranch. In my upcoming book, No Going Back,

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the book is filled with many honest stories of my life,

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good and bad days, challenges, painful decisions, and lessons learned.

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And so the way Maga has kind of mutated now Cohen,

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is she thinks that this story because in her kind

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of bubble, she thought that this story was going to

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be something that actually earned her cred that she killed

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her puppy.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: It is so odd and strange. What do you what

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do you make of that?

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Speaker 3: Cohen?

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Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me of Norman Bates, you know,

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I mean, for God's sakes, this makes absolutely no sense

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to me how she thought that any rational American, any

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rational human being, your dog is barking, Your dog isn't

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acting a puppy, isn't acting the way that she wants

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it to do. So you take the dog, you put

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it down, into a into a ditch, and then you

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shoot it. And she thought she's going to become vice

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president of the United States by shooting a puppy. I mean,

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with a whole due respect. I mean, now I understand

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why she likes Corey Lewandowski, why they're together. You know,

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they're two basket cases.

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Speaker 3: How do you turn her?

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Speaker 2: What? Listen, if you don't want the dog, bring it

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to a shelter, bring it to a next door neighbor.

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I'm sure somebody would take your puppy. Right, there's no

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dubt in my mind. People adopt dogs all the time. Instead. Instead,

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she felt that she had to she had to terminate

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this puppy's life because the puppy wasn't acting according to

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the way that she wanted it to. It's a sick dementit.

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And then to go and to try now, she announced, Now,

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we're in damage control business, baby, and there's nobody that

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knows damage controlled better than you. All right, So she's

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now out there trying to say it's not true. It's

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not in my book. You know, cricket died, that that died,

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whatever it might be. You know, she realized that she

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put her foot in her mouth right. The problem is

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that the shoeing. The shoe doesn't taste like peppermint. That

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I can tell you. But the fact I don't care

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if you're a Republican, if you're a Democrat, I don't care.

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If you're independent. I don't care if you're old, if

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you're young. It makes no difference what generation you follow.

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You shoot a puppy, you're a piece of shit.

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Speaker 1: Well, will reserve potential two finger salute there. But I'm

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going to give you a number of candidates right now.

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So we have Christy Nome who's eligible for the two

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finger salute. Let me show you.

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Speaker 2: No matter what I just I'm gonna I'm gonna get

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a little hint to everybody.

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Speaker 3: She's number one on my list.

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Speaker 2: Well, anybody that kills a puppy a piece of shit

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as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's Vivek Ramaswami at a recent speech where he

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talks about how the founding fathers they're the ones who

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will hold people accountable in the afterlife. Here at play

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this clip.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be every one of you, every one of

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us doing our part as well for this country, and

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when we face our founding fathers, in the afterlife and

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they ask us what sacrifice did you make for your country?

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Speaker 3: We better have a damn good answer for them, and

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we will.

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Speaker 6: This is a seventeen seventy six moment in our country.

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Speaker 1: I don't say that, Land, I don't even know what

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you're saying. Viveke, this is a seventeen seventy six moment.

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It must be so easy, like if you don't give

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a crap about anything, going to just go on there

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and just say this is a seventeen seventy six moment,

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and our founding fathers they will be waiting for each

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of you to judge if you are true patriots, how

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big of a patriot. It's like the moment, why are

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you even talking? This is some weird to ask him.

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Speaker 2: I would personally like to ask him, what have you

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ever done for this country? Did you serve in the military.

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Did you go to war in order to protect our

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democratic republic? Let me ask you this. Have you gone

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ahead and have you testified before Congress seven times? Did

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you assist the Moler team right? Did you hold you know,

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individuals accountable for their dirty deeds?

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Speaker 3: Or what did you do?

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Speaker 2: You ran a race and you ended up you know, winning,

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you know, winning an election, you fooled a bunch of people.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what did you do to.

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Speaker 2: Benefit anybody else? And the answer is not a goddamn thing.

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We all know how he made his money. But this

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fucking jerk off is up there and you have people

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standing there and applauding and clapping for him. What are

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you saying? What are you saying? Seventeen seventy six, right,

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this wasn't compared to twenty twenty four. Think about how

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this country has progressed since seventeen seventy six to twenty

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twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Think about it. Now, let's go back a.

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Speaker 2: Little over a year or so before the overturning of

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Roe v. Wade via the Dogs decision. And then you

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turn around and say, well, whoa, if we're on one

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of those mathematical scales, right, we're now we hit the

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top of that and we're actually on a decline. So

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I don't understand what they're talking about. I mean, the

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level of hatred, you know, between Republicans and Democrats, the

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fact that you have you know, now this of anti semitism, islamophobia.

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I mean, what are we doing? We're so much as

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forget about just as Americans, we are so much better

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than this. We are so much better than somebody like

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Vivek Ramaswami, all right, who is standing up on a

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stage basically calling for another civil war in this country,

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but a civil war between their sort of eighteen sixty

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four ideals in values as compared to the values that

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we should have and more in the year twenty twenty four.

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I don't understand. It's all for them about becoming the

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elite class. You see, that's what they see right now,

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that they could become the elite class by shifting to

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that direction, right by following one in individual, following him,

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raising money off of it, and they will be as

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we have in with Vladimir Putin. They will be the oligarchs.

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Speaker 1: Christino Vivek. We're gonna we're doing a list right here.

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Here we have Rudy Giuliani on the right wing media,

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and here's what he said that MAGA Mike Johnson should

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be doing in terms of withholding aid to Ukraine unless

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uh President Selenski turns over to the magas in the

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House of Representative a Biden file. You know, it sounds

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like deja vu to me, but this is what Giuliani.

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It's a confession. But this is what Giuliani just said.

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Play the clip.

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Speaker 7: Hitting with Brennan when they were hatching when when he

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was informed of Hillary coming up with the false plot.

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It should begin with him, and it should. It should

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include Brennan, It should include Biden, the vice president who

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approved it and helped out. They should bring over from

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Ukraine about twenty Ukrainian witnesses. I can get them that

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are still being held there. A couple I've found out

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very recently are in here a dath and they should.

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Somebody should lean on, ze Lynsky. You want another penny,

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Give us your Biden, give us your Biden.

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Speaker 1: File said, somebody should hold on.

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Speaker 2: Wait, can we go back and see if somebody can't

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figure out what kind of painting that was. Maybe it's

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a well known artist or something, because I'm sure Ruby

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Freeman and Shay Moss, you know, would like to grab

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a hold of that too as part of the Julianius eighth.

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Somebody needs to go, hey, I'm going to send that

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to a friend of mine who's actually an art dealer,

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and I.

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Speaker 3: See, maybe maybe it's like the cooning.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's uh, you know, maybe it's a famous artist

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or something a debouchet, right, could you you imagine? And

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then all of a sudden like, well, hold on that,

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Rudy Kaludi, drunken Juliani, you psychopath? Right, don't you owe

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something like one hundred million dollars to Ruby Freeman and

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Shine Moss. We're gonna stop by, We're going to take

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control over that painting.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very odd placement of that painting though too.

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Here show it one more time, not the video, just

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the photo of it. Like the way he's positioned right there.

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You know, you have like the moldings on the wall,

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like why would you randomly like why it's off balanced?

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Why is it even there? Anyway? I could definitely give

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you my whole esthetic room rating of that. But let's

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talk about that one. That one we get to one

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point two. That's like that's like that's like a bed

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Dave Portnoy pizza. Yeah, I think he gave a rating

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like that from I think it was a Costco pizza

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with the bad flop, too much oil and.

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Speaker 2: The cheese was just not not tasty. He gave like

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a one point too. I give that room raid Er

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David por No one point two.

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Speaker 1: He's basically saying to the Maga Republicans in the House

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of Representatives to lean on, basically extort President Zelenski that

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you won't fund Ukraine's defense from the unlawful invasion of

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Russia unless duce Biden file, which is a made up

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concept and a made up thing. But lean on them

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to dig up dirt in a presidential I mean, that's

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what and he's just saying. And I I anyway, I

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was going to make a connection that I can't necessarily make,

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but focus on Rudy. I won't go bring in the

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other point I wanted to make, but bring to talk

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about just Rudy and Rudy's statement right there, we don't

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have to talk.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's there really to talk about. Didn't he

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get himself already into enough trouble. I mean, he's already

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losing his apartment here in the city. He's going to

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lose his house or his apartment in Florida and Palm Beach.

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Lord knows where he's going to live. It's certainly not

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going to be with his idiot son Andrew. I mean,

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this kid, this kid can't find himself. You know, he

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can't find himself in a one man hide and seek game.

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It's it's incredible. I saw there was something on, whether

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it was TikTok or Instagram. His son was at some

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rally and the guy comes over to him and he said,

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I'm Andrew Julian And he goes, Wait, the you mean

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related to the guy who had the stuff dripping from

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he goes?

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Speaker 3: So he goes, he goes. He refused to acknowledge that

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Rudy was his father or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just seriously, it's it's becoming a

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clown show of stupidity. He realizes at the end of

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the day he's going to be left with nothing. America's

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mayor at one time is going to end up being

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a homeless charge. Can you imagine this? I mean, talk

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about how many more people have to follow in my

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in my footsteps, how many more people have to turn

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around and lose everything. I told Rudy that this was

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going to happen. I told Mark Meadows, this is going

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to happen. Did I not yell it loud enough when

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I was the railroaded? Could when you have Christina, Bob

477
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John Eastman, you have I mean, god, how many more

478
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people are going to end up, you know, losing their

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law license, losing their livelihood, their honor, their reputation, their

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family's happiness, all of for for what, all for what?

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For the prospect that's never going to happen. By the way,

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the interesting thing in Rudy's bankruptcy proceeding. Could you imagine

483
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that the single greatest asset in Rudy's bankruptcy preceding filing

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is the outstanding legal fees owed to him by the

485
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former president. Could you imagine this that's the largest asset.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine. I have a lot more to say

487
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on that, and I'm sure you may as well, but

488
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we'll save that for future episodes of political beat down

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there as well. So we went through Christy Nome, We

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talked about Vivek, we talked about Rudy Giuliani. When we

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get back, I want to talk about James Comer, I

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want to talk about Jared Kushner, and then we'll have

493
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you vote for who's going to win your two finger

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salute with all of these people.

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Speaker 2: He also want to just bring up thanks to all

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of our brigaders and everything that they're doing in terms

497
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of with the help with the GoFundMe and everything between

498
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Donia Perry who's my lawyer, and Justin Nelson, who's the

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famous defamation lawyer that actually sued Fox and got that

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seven hundred plus million dollar verdict. An fully retracted and apologized.

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Think about this ben a far right wing media network

502
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apologizing to Michael Cohen about a story that is a lie,

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that was fake.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully we'll get to that too.

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Speaker 1: I definitely want to talk about that first. In fact,

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when we come back from this quick break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. We're live on Political beat Down. That's great

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to be here with you. Michael Cohen, I'm Cohen. I'm

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just gonna read your statement. I'm not going to ask

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that you react to this one. You just a statement

570
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that you gave generally to the press, so I feel

571
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comfortable reading it if we can pull it up. Cohen

572
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,079
wrote that the imposed fine this is regarding the gag

573
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order violations that we're found today in court. The imposed

574
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fine is irrelevant. Justice Mrshan's decision elucidates that this behavior

575
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will not be tolerated and that no one is above

576
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the law. Let me just leave it there, and co

577
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I don't want you to even respond further. That's your

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statement that you put out publicly. I do want to

579
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say this as well, and I think it's fair for

580
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me to say, no, we only had one sponsorship block today.

581
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And as I was reflecting on this ABC story that

582
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has like, you know, I don't want you to respond

583
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,679
to it either, but I just want to make this

584
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point that has you on TikTok, and it was like, oh, look,

585
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,519
Cohen doing all of these things. Like I can tell

586
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,760
you from being an executive here at the Minus Touch

587
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,880
network that we used to have two sponsorship blocks. It's

588
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certainly less now as a result of you know, as

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a result of the proceedings. And it's actually not you

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00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760
you know, it's actually there's a lot that I can't

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talk about that I you know, that I'm doing on

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a separate show. So you know, any of that that's

593
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out there is just simply you know, you know, in

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my own perspective, revetted by the reality of the situation.

595
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So let me just leave it at that. But you

596
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are able to talk about the Oan situation, So I

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00:36:04,159 --> 00:36:06,599
want to hear from you there, Cohen, about Oan and

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what went down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what happened was they put out this story.

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We talked about it here on Beatdown a while back,

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claiming that it was I who was having the affair

602
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with Stormy, and that Stormy and I concocted a plan

603
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in twenty sixteen to extort Trump and the corporate and

604
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:39,039
the Trump organization out of money before the presidential race.

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And where did they come up with this ingenious story,

606
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,800
this fantastical story, Some guy named Tony Saruga who is

607
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:54,119
allegedly friends with Michael Avnatti or he was business partners,

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or they shared an office or something like that. And

609
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:01,840
obviously Avenadi then came out and said, it's bullshit. Seruga

610
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just you know, he just wants to be relevant and

611
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,840
get his name into the paper. And he denied it,

612
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,000
of course, and the whole thing is so stupid anyway,

613
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So I sent to cease and desist. Was then contacted

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by OAN's general counsel. I then turned the entire file

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over to Justin Nelson, the attorney. As I was saying,

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before they got the seven hundred million dollar verdict against

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Fox and Oan and so on, and in conjunction with

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Donia Perry, who was my lawyer, within about two weeks,

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we had a statement that was put out. They did

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a full retraction, they removed it from their website and

621
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apologized for any harm that the article may have caused me.

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You know, it's a wind because it's about time that

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people start holding these these companies to task when it

624
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comes to defamation, slander and so on.

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Speaker 3: And it's you know what.

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Speaker 2: Most people don't understand, because thank god, you've never been

627
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through it, But these sort of articles when they get when,

628
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when they get regurgitated and promoted over and over and

629
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over again, between the oa NS, the Newsmax, the Fox

630
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and so on, as well as the entire Magamoronic cult,

631
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this is what ends up happening. It just it becomes overwhelming.

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Even for somebody who has incredibly thick skin and has

633
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been down this road before, it is overwhelming and it

634
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is mentally taxing. So I am extremely thankful and appreciative

635
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that o An did the right thing, retracted the statement,

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apologized and removed it and shut the shit right down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it was great work. And you know, you

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standing up for yourself not backing down. You know a

640
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lot of people would have just been like, hey, whatever,

641
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,440
you know, that's just I'm just gonna let it happen,

642
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:29,360
not you. And I think that's one of the things

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00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,920
we all appreciate about what you about what you do.

644
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We've talked about Christy Nome, the veg Gramaswame Rudy Giuliani.

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Next up on my list is Maga Republican James Comer,

646
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who chairs the House Oversight Committee. His new talking point

647
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last night when he did the right wing media circuit

648
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is that the reason his impeachment investigation is stalled is

649
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actually because there is too much evidence. He says, here,

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play this clip.

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Speaker 8: Here's a sixty four thousand dollars question, Chairman, and do

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we hold them accountable for perjury or evading taxes?

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Speaker 9: A lot a lot at evading taxes, many financial crimes.

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The reason that this has taken so long, in addition

655
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to the obstruction for the White Heath, is there's more

656
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evidence that comes in every day.

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Speaker 1: Ween you know, he's too cowardly to even hold hearings

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anymore because Jared Moskowitz, Jamie Raskin, you know others in

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the house, Jasmine Crockett. Here he is again, and this

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is just a funny moment where he's basically just trying

661
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to make fetch happen. Take a look at this.

662
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Speaker 8: Tell us what you've found. You've got some new news

663
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here that may really implicate Jim Biden and Hunter tell

664
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us about it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, this isn't more evidence of influence peddling. This

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is what we've been saying for the past year.

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Speaker 1: Let me show you.

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Speaker 2: It's really a shame because I know Eric Bowling. I've

669
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known him for a long time and as well as

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his wife, and I'm so disappointed. He's better, I'm telling you,

671
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,000
and Brigaders don't get angry at me for saying this,

672
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because he's a Fox News guy. He's better than this,

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and he fucking knows it, right, He knows better. He's

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been through terrible shit in his life. He knows he

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knows what he's doing. The question becomes why why? It

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makes no sense. He knows what he's saying is horseshit.

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He's laughing at the stupidity of Comer, and more so,

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he's laughing at the stupidity of the people that voted

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for Comer to become a representative.

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Speaker 3: This is it's such a shame.

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Speaker 2: They all know better, but for whatever the reason is,

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they have gone down this this dumpster hole, right, this

683
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gigantic hole, and fell right into this dumpster cult. I

684
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don't understand what I'd have so much we would all

685
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have so much more respect for him if he would

686
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stand up and he would say what he really believes in,

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what he really means, and the same name, Well.

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Speaker 1: You just gotta follow the money. It's actually next he's

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a Newsmax and they gave him his own show. He

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00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:24,039
goes out, he says these ridiculous things. They've got a

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base of people who eat this stuff up. And you know,

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he fancies himself as you know, like a Hannity, like

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a Tucker, and he wasn't able to really reach his

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dreams or what he thought he could achieve. So what

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00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,280
do you do. You know, you go and you say

696
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,039
this ridiculous stuff, and you get a whole base of

697
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:48,280
people who eat this up, and you feed lies to

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people who don't want to deal with complicated issues. And

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the reality is, though Cohen like, at the same time,

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you have Comer saying that, right, here's one of the

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things that we do know. I mean, he's still talking

702
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about Hunter, Hunter, Biden, Hunter this, Hunter that. And then

703
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when they had the opportunity to have Hunter actually testify live,

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when Hunters showed up, none of them actually asked Hunter questions.

705
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But take a look at this. Here's a chart I

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think we have it right here of Kushner's Middle East

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deals from affinity partners. So while the MAGA Republicans are

708
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complaining about things that like when President Biden was not

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even the vice president and not the president, he loaned

710
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,239
Hunter four thousand dollars, right, That's one of the main accusations.

711
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,719
The other stuff is like they use whistleblowers from Russia

712
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,639
who are not really whistleblowers, Like they use foreign agents

713
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from Russia, barign agents from the CCP against a sitting president.

714
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Here's just undisputed facts staring us all in the face.

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That while Kushner was in office and right as he left,

716
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you know, he was appointed to lead Middle East policy

717
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,119
and then he was like negotiating these deals. I think

718
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:04,000
while he was ill in these positions, Kushner raised three

719
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:08,719
point one billion dollars and basically all of it from

720
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foreign places like Katar, Uae, Saudi Arabia, other non US countries.

721
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Saudi Arabia gave him two billion dollars, UAE two hundred

722
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:26,679
million dollars, Qatar two hundred million dollars, and other foreign

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00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:31,039
nations six hundred and twenty five million dollars. You have

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MBS the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia saying that Kushner

725
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is in his pocket. You had this exclusive from the

726
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Daily Mail that went unrebutted. Saudi Crown Prince Bragg that

727
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:48,400
Jared Kushner gave him CIA intelligence about other Saudi saying,

728
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here are your enemies, days before corruption crackdown which led

729
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to torture and death. And here's Jared Kushner recently, in

730
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an interview with Axios, asks about the billions of dollars

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received from Saudi Arabia, and Kushner goes, you know, are

732
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we really still talking about this or are you really

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still at is this still a thing?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 1: Play this clip.

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Speaker 5: The d and I report came out a couple of

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weeks after you left the White House. It says that

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MBS personally was responsible. Do you agree with the DNI

739
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do you or do you believe that report?

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Speaker 1: Are we really still doing this?

741
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Speaker 8: Dan?

742
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

743
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Speaker 1: Absolutely?

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Speaker 7: So let's go to this.

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Speaker 1: Then, finally, Cohen, here's what Jim Jordan recently said about

746
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Jared Kushner. Let's play this.

747
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Speaker 8: Clip and Dan Goldman. I don't think we have the

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sound by queue up, but I think Dan Goldman came

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out and said, oh yeah, one hundred and nothing to

750
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do with foreign governments. But Jared Kushner did that narrative

751
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come up?

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Speaker 4: Again. I'm not going to get into what came up

753
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,519
in this in this uh interview today, this deposition, but

754
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:56,800
the idea that Jared Kushner did something wrong is ridiculous.

755
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:00,559
I mean, the Trump family that has been an investigative

756
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more than any family on the planet, and what they've

757
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,800
what they're attempted to do to President Trump and been

758
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,679
doing to President Trump over the last seven years is unbelievable.

759
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So again, I don't want to get into that, but

760
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I will say this all let's do this, let's see this.

761
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Speaker 1: I want you to focus your answer here Kushnan, now

762
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not on he who's not named on the show for now,

763
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but on Kushner, on right wing media, on James Comer,

764
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:29,480
and where you have Kushner's conduct staring us in the

765
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face that is the most egregious of egregious, and you

766
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hear that level of lies and gaslighting.

767
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Speaker 2: Well, the problem is that many people who watched that

768
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,920
show or have seen that clip, they're all saying the

769
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,360
same thing. Of course, this corruption that went on here

770
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Jared is not a hedge fun guy. In fact, Jared

771
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:57,559
is known in New York as being one of the

772
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worst real estate guys in the city's history, especially with

773
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the single worst real estate deal ever done in New

774
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York City, and that was the acquisition of sixty sixty

775
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:14,679
six Fifth Avenue, which if in fact that it went

776
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,519
under which it was supposed to do, would have caused

777
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:23,599
potentially the Kushner company with his daddy started to go

778
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,840
bankrupt somehow or another, not partaving sixty sixty six Fifth Avenue.

779
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:32,599
All right, So what ends up happening is I think

780
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it was Qatar that bailed out the building through Brookfield

781
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,800
Properties or something like that, and they ended up putting

782
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,960
like over two hundred million dollars into their pocket what

783
00:47:44,119 --> 00:47:47,960
was supposed to be a complete and total loss considering

784
00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:52,480
they overspent in the acquisition of it twenty some years ago.

785
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,400
He is he is not. He is not somebody that

786
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:03,360
Mohammad Ben Salman, the Saudi Investment Authority, the Katari Investment

787
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,079
Authority would normally give their money, which is why MBS

788
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,559
turned around and said I don't care. After the Finance

789
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:15,920
division of the Saudi Investment Authority said no, he doesn't

790
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,679
meet our standards, MBS turned around and said give it

791
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,800
to him. So when you start seeing people like MBS

792
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,480
saying I got him in my pocket, or that they

793
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:31,639
showed him CIA top secret CIA information that led to

794
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:35,880
the roundup of all of the other members of the

795
00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:41,480
various royal families where NBS had them sign over their funds.

796
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:45,480
Let me tell you this, on three billion dollars, with

797
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:50,280
the way that affinity works, they get two and twenty.

798
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,559
Speaker 3: He's pulling down. So we can all laugh.

799
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: At this, at this fucking scarecrow he's pulling down. Or

800
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,960
if that three point one billion, every January one he

801
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:07,639
gets to write himself a check for sixty million dollars,

802
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:11,280
all right, and whatever profit that they make, I think

803
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,440
they're taking twenty percent of the profit.

804
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: So who's laughing at who?

805
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: Well, we should all be outraged. And it shouldn't be

806
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,400
a Democrat or Republican thing, this team or that team thing.

807
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,760
I know that's the way politics is right now. But

808
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,639
why I wanted to show the video in that series,

809
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:36,960
what James Comer was saying to what is actually undisputed

810
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:39,719
before our eyes and what you and I like to

811
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,719
talk about on this show, are really the undisputed facts.

812
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,400
Part of why we call this show political beatdown is

813
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,719
a beatdown on politics that's trying to prevent us from

814
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,400
getting at the facts. It's a beatdown on the spin.

815
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,679
It's just focus on these things. Yes, you and I

816
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,639
will have strong opinions once we lay out the facts,

817
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,599
but we don't start with anger or outrage. We start

818
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:10,840
with the facts and then we share our respective views.

819
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So Cohen.

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Speaker 3: Have anger and outrage all the time.

821
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Speaker 2: You know you on the other hand, Ben, you know

822
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,840
you You balance me.

823
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Speaker 3: You know that. That's why.

824
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Speaker 1: That's why the show works. And I've made a career

825
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,639
of balancing people. That's one's the one skill set that

826
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,920
I am is balancing people. All Right, we got Christino,

827
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:40,639
vivek Ramaswami, you have Juliani, You've got Comer, and I'll

828
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just throw a Kushner on the list. Just because you've

829
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,360
got to give the two finger salute to just one,

830
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,840
Michael Cohen, I know you may want to give it

831
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,679
to everybody. That's a cop out. It has to go

832
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,679
to one, and you got to explain why, and we'll

833
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,079
leave it there. Who do you give it to?

834
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Speaker 3: Christine?

835
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Speaker 2: Hands down, I don't don't even think that an explanation

836
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:07,079
is warranted. I think anybody that wants to brag about

837
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,719
killing a puppy in this case, this cute cricket has

838
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,760
to get the two fingers salute. In fact, I'll tell

839
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,639
you what I'd really like to see, based upon all

840
00:51:18,679 --> 00:51:21,119
the information that we now have, I would like to

841
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:24,159
see the authority show up to her house and you know,

842
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,920
and indict her to be honest with you for animal cruelty.

843
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,800
All right, she is, she's she's a sad excuse for,

844
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,719
you know, for a human being to shoot a puppy

845
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,440
because it's what the dog wasn't acting the way that

846
00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:45,440
you wanted to.

847
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,079
Speaker 3: I mean that just that just.

848
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: Goes to a whole another level of somebody's got some

849
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,239
real problems.

850
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Speaker 3: There.

851
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Speaker 1: You have it. Rest in peace, cricket. Rest in peace, cricket,

852
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:00,840
Not to you, cricket.

853
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:01,599
Speaker 3: That's for Christine.

854
00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:04,639
Speaker 1: No, that's not for cricket. That's not for resting cricket.

855
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 3: We give one of those.

856
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: Christy crickets the heart. I want to thank everybody for watching.

857
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,679
Thank you for our pro democracy sponsors who are sticking

858
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with this program.

859
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,039
Speaker 3: We are going great.

860
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:17,039
Speaker 2: Thank you for all the love that you keep showing

861
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:19,599
to me. You have no idea, you know, I don't

862
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:21,760
know if you could see it, even my clothes.

863
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,519
Speaker 3: And now much bigger. I'm down.

864
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,599
Speaker 2: I'm down twenty six pounds, right, I mean literally twenty

865
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:33,639
six pounds. It's so hard to eat. I'm so wound

866
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,639
up over all of this shit, waiting every single day

867
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,719
to get a phone call from my lawyer who's going

868
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,519
to tell me when I'm going. But together we'll get

869
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:47,320
through it, you know. And I thank you Ben, and

870
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,440
I thank Jordie, and I thank Bread and Jeremy and

871
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:55,679
Salty and the entire Mitus Touch Network team, every you know, everybody.

872
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,280
I get phone calls just so you guys know from

873
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,639
you know, from the brothers and and everybody there at

874
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:04,719
the company. You're on a regular basis, how you're holding up,

875
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,159
You're holding up everything, Okay.

876
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: You know. It's a lot of pressure, you know.

877
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,559
Speaker 2: And it's not pressure because of the questions or worrying

878
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,239
about cross examination.

879
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit.

880
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: There's nothing that anybody can say to me that's going

881
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,039
to get me to change my story. It's been the

882
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:25,199
same story for six years. It's the it's the whole

883
00:53:25,679 --> 00:53:28,119
work up to it you know, it's like it's like

884
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:30,920
an exam. Think about it that way, right, You study

885
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,840
for the exam, you know everything cold, but you still

886
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,719
have that nervous tension before the exam starts, despite the

887
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,679
fact on how prepared you are for it.

888
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: It's just it's just a human reaction.

889
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,639
Speaker 2: So I thank you, Ben, and I thank all our

890
00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:51,280
brigaders for being a part of this journey with me.

891
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:55,239
We're not we're not finished. We haven't crossed the finished line,

892
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,880
but soon enough.

893
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: We're all here for you, Cohen, we appreciate you and

894
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:04,559
Cohen and I appreciate all of you brigadors. Thank you

895
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:08,719
for watching, Thank you for sticking with us. Thank you

896
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for respecting that there are certain areas that we can

897
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:15,599
no longer discuss on the show and still making this

898
00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:19,679
a hugely popular episode with a lot of people in here.

899
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Thank you for that. And we feed off of your

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energy as well, Brigaders, So it just it means a

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lot to us. We look at the chat, we look

902
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