Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, everybody, Welcome back to.
Speaker 2: Good Spin It Out Jesus Challenge the podcast all about
the challenge. I'm Brian sitting uh in his room, obviously drunk.
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Speaker 4: Yes I do, because Tim was getting drunk and trying
to get laid and then asking for advice on how
to follow up a text message for a potential new date,
not following any of the ad and saying failed me.
Speaker 3: By the way, you guys failed me. I asked for
a word for word and you guys just said start
the show. We're not going to do it.
Speaker 4: Yep. Okay, So we start off back in the house.
We get a CT pro tip almost immediately. CT pro
tip it's better to be lucky than good. A win
is a win.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 4: Very obviously does not feel super great about his I
mean it's win against Derek, but he's still in the
house and Derek is not, so there's that. Yeah, but yep,
we do see a few people in the house celebrating
that CT came back. He asks, I think it was Jeremy.
Do you think this wipes the board for everybody else
clears my my, my wrongs with the lack of stuff,
and Jeromy's like, no, no, it doesn't. And then we
get the talking head from Majeremy saying, you know, people
still feel the justice for lack of stuff, and that's
the end of all of that that we hear for
the rest of the episode.
Speaker 3: But in Dear for Jeremy, I liked that Jeremy was
sort of no bullshit here. I liked that CT was
sort of no bullshit. I don't know, there was something
about this exchange that was sort of endearing to both
of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean, I feel like CT
has been no bullshit for a really long time, but
I feel like Jeerremie has actually been no bullshit kind
of all season. I've enjoyed the little that we have
been able to see of him. Yeah, playing politics. That's
why I would really like to see him in if
you know, if this show continues. I'd really like to
see him in future seasons and see how he is,
you know, going forward, like to actually see his political
game totally.
Speaker 3: I remember his conversation with Gabe where he seemed politically
like coherence anyway, like he had a strategy, he had
something that he was aiming for. Yeah, he seems cool.
I like Jearmie, I really do. He's one of the
kind of he's quiet, but he seems like maybe I
don't know, he'd compare him to maybe he'll maybe he'll
I'm throw in a second season ethetically gifted. Otherwise he's
too quiet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, he is very quiet, And honestly, I don't
know if it's necessarily he's too quiet, or if it's
just that we have a lot of very loud people
in this episode or in this season. Yeah, we've feet
a lot of the big personalities from the Vets and
from the New Threats, honestly, So yeah, really, it just
it goes straight into everybody kind of talking about the
locking in their partners and how the selection is gonna
go and who thinks who's going to be able to
pick first, and how this next challenge is going to happen.
And what it's going to do to affect their points,
and it's just I mean, it's just constant. This entire
episode is all about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Who like people kind of jocking for Okay, well, if
I get two points then I could potentially be here.
If I don't get any points that I'm gonna be here,
or people like Gabe who are like, well, I mean,
I'm just fucked. I have a feeling I'm gonna end
up with Johnny regardless of what I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I kind of like this. I kind of
wish they were danging this this permanent partner thing earlier
in this season. So this, this could have been a
better strategy of trying to get out the weaker of
the opposite gender. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like
that could have been a really fun thing. We only
see it really in a couple of episodes where Michaela's
trying to get out CT and but this could have
been like a theme, right, you know, you're pair of
the week, You're paired of the weak opposite gender you
have and throw it and try to get them out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is definitely this is one of the few
times that I wholeheartedly agree with you if I wish
that we had gotten all the rules at the beginning,
because if we had gotten all the rules at the beginning,
we've gotten the fact that there was going to be
this big shake up later on in the game. Then yeah,
I think that people like America would definitely like there
would be some people who would be really trying to
keep her to fuck over their opponents, but for the
most part, everybody who was trying to get her out,
they'd be trying to get CTT, they'd be trying to
get some of these players out there, and maybe we
would have kept bananas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because yeah, the women could have saved him.
I mean, they could have stopped him from even being
a And there's something exciting, like interesting if you know
that ahead of time, and you're you know, I've enjoyed
these these episodes were were the're able to capitalize on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 4: We do get a talking head from Adrian at this
point in time, saying that the rookie girls are kind
of fucked, like they really drew the short end of
the stick with the vet guys, which, like when we
first started this season, I did not think that they
drew the short end of the stick. But as we've
gone through this season, I wholeheartedly agree. I mean, they
had the rookie girls had the potential to be paired
up with Derek, Derek fat Cet THEO who is like
just failing miserably on all of his shit, Turbo, who's
really the only one of all of them that's been
really great.
Speaker 5: Who else I.
Speaker 2: Wanted to point out Turbo this season super focused? Yeah, oh,
got super doing really well. And I feel like when
he's super focused, like this unstoppable.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he saw it a little.
Speaker 2: Bit in his very first season, and then I feel
like he's just been in chaos every season he's been
on since then. Yeah, he's like super focused. He's dangerous.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I mean this episode especially really shows just
how fucking dangerous he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that you're cluing into what I'm cluing
in on with with Turbo. It's just, yeah, he's a
he's chaos. He's crazy. He's a completely insane person. Been
incredibly competent and capable and like, yeah, yeah crazy, Yeah,
the best the best of the Vet of the Vet, mean,
by a thousand yards.
Speaker 4: By the best of almost everybody in that house by
a lot. Yeah, like he he's he's good at this game. Ye,
he's good at the weird ship. He's yeah.
Speaker 3: He also he's also very like self deprecating this season
and kind of yeah.
Speaker 6: I love that he's.
Speaker 3: Playing the like the social game a little better than
for the audience. I mean, the audience is able to
relate to him better this season than any other season.
Speaker 4: He seems to finally be in on the joke yeah,
which I love.
Speaker 3: Yes, when he talks later this episode about I can't
speak English, I don't know what this phrase. I have
no idea. It's yes, he's relatable, it's fun, it's personal,
it's fun, it's funny. It's yes, it's a different, different turbo.
Speaker 4: Yes, I agree with that. We have at the very
beginning of the episode, we have Nanny and Will talking
about how they want to pick each other as partners
because they they both think, you know, like this this
hook up thing has been really good, Like you have
to be able to work with your partner. You have
to know that you have like good chemistry with your partner.
And so they're both initially they're both like, yeah, I
want to be partnered with the other one. We have
Ashley saying that she doesn't think that she's going to
Oh so this was our first like real drama of
the episode.
Speaker 5: Ashley is, I think she's in the gym talking.
Speaker 4: To a few people. Oh, no, she's she's talking with Anissa,
and basically is like I Anissa says something to the
effect of like, yeah, you know, I'm really trying hard.
I'm gonna go for like the big players to see
if I can get a great partner, and I'm really
gonna go for the win. And Ashley's response is like,
I don't even think that I can win. The fuck
do you mean you think you can win? And Anissa
goes back at her like, I, you know, I'm in
the best shape of my life, Like I think that
I have a serious chance this season. Well, then we
get a cut to a little bit later where Ashley's
laughing with people in the gym about Anissa and like, oh,
I can't believe that she's so fucking delusional, Like we
have people like Sydney and Olivia, and Anissa's over here
thinking that she can she can beat these rookies and
beat these other players. And Anissa, of course hears this
and walks in and is like, what the fuck do
you want to say that shit to my face? And
you know Ashley is clearly shit faced.
Speaker 3: And on this fight, where are you?
Speaker 4: Okay? He's right, There's no way in Heleny Say is
ever going to win. Facts, just barn on. She is
doing significantly better this season than I thought she would.
She has some of the highest points of all of
the women, but she she may be in the best
shape of her life. But in order to win this game,
she has to beat Sydney. She has to beat Olivia, who,
as much as we have all liked Olivia, she's done
really fucking well this season. She has to beat d
she has to be atle she There are so many
players in this game that she has to beat. And
Anissa is never going to be the regardless of what
her body looks like, She's never going to be that person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that I'm and I hate to say
this because I don't like Ashley either, but I'm on
Ashley's side with this. And we've spoken of this same
ship right of Like Anissa shows up to this stuff
not ready to go, like she's she's doing the dramatic thing.
She's not doing this to win. And now Anissa it's
too late, and like, I believe you best shape you've
ever been, and that's fine. You've never won before either,
so you could be in the best shape you've ever
been and still not able to do it. And I
think that actually has a point of like be realistic,
just don't don't fucking lie to people and be shitty,
like just.
Speaker 4: That's the thing I feel like. It's I don't feel
like it's Anissa trying to lie to anybody. I think
it's a Nissa trying to lie to herself to keep
herself motivated. That's the only thing that I can think of. Sure,
but it's still like Anissa, you do not have a
shot in hell.
Speaker 3: Well she breaks into this shit of like, oh my
body is just not the body you're used to seeing.
But it's like your body is just not capable of
it because it's too big, Like it's not I'm not
judging the body for what it is, Like I could
be tracked to the body, I could like it. But
Ashley is right, like it's an athletic thing. It's like
a niece was just saying, this is not a fictivity,
So like you can't pick and choose a Nissa of,
like some things you're capable of, some things are not.
Somethings your body can do, somethings your body can't. I
don't know. This fucking pissed me off, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: CT in the Invasion of the Champs was definitely dad
bod CT.
Speaker 5: He was not as dadbod as.
Speaker 4: He is right now, or.
Speaker 5: I guess he was not fat CT.
Speaker 4: He was dadbod ct uh And he won that season,
but that season did not have That season was also
a fucking joke. Ashley also won that season. That season
did not have competitors on it like this season does. Yeah,
and yeah, it's just it all around. It just I
hate that I'm on Ashley's side on this, but I am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am too, because.
Speaker 4: Ashley's argument, like the argument makes sense, the way that
she presents it is so fucking foul.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, she's a mean girl, mean girl, mean girl.
Way to do it.
Speaker 2: But I'm not on side because I don't even think
Anissa has a big problem with what she said when
they were talking one on one. I think the biggest
problem she has with this whole situation is Ashley is
grand standing in front of all these new people that
she wants to try to impress, and she starts doing
what are you dumb? And starts doing a bunch of
bullshit like that and starts trying to like make jokes.
Like I said, I don't think a Nissa had a
big problem with what they when they were talking one
on one with what she said. But then Anissa also
comes in and says, if you're not gonna support yourself,
nobody else is going to. So I'm gonna believe in
myself and you can fuck off. And as we I
didn't know because I'm not keeping track week two week,
but you go look at the leader board, A Nissa's
further ahead than Ashley is, so maybe a fuck off.
Speaker 3: Well, to Ash's credit, she was also saying I can't
win this season either, like look at these ladies, dude.
Look there's Sydney and there's Mikayla, Like, how are you
supposed to do this?
Speaker 2: No, well, but don't use it for clout with other
people and be like, well see, let's make fun of
them together and that makes us friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't like the mineral aspect she did the
meaneral thing. I don't like that.
Speaker 4: I agree with the with the general argument that Ashley
is making. I do not agree with any of the
rest of it. The way that she presented it, the
ship that she did around it, the things that she
said to her, like some of the ship that she
said they she made something I can't even remember the comment,
hmmm at the very end of the argument, something about
being big.
Speaker 5: She made some comment that it was.
Speaker 4: Like that is so out of line and so unnecessary.
Ashley's just she's such a little Yeah, do you not.
Speaker 3: Like actually can leave forever? She was also saying she
couldn't win. I love Ashley. Please her recent in Great TV,
and he says, been crying for pity for twenty years. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh. He also says, Wolf of your volume is so
much better than the last few weeks. Marked down these
settings because we enjoy hearing you. That's great. I've done
absolutely nothing since last week. So these are the same
settings as last week.
Speaker 3: You're leaned in, though you're talking closer to the maybe
nice one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the heart of they fall, which is what she
yelled down the hall. It's like, that's stupid, Ashley, shut up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a low blow.
Speaker 2: Shit, it's not even a low blow. It's just like,
what the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bryan's this is a great line to Me's just like, hey,
you're fat at Lisa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just Ashley was just out of line
with everything, everything she was saying, the way that she
was presenting, the argument, the ship that she was trying
to do in front of people that do not care,
that also don't want to be paired with her.
Speaker 5: Mike, Yeah, Yeah, it was just Yeah, it was bullshit.
Speaker 2: Even I almost would say if they were sitting in
there having like a realistic conversation and Ashley was just
like looking, he's just said she's gonna win, Like, I
don't believe her. She's obviously not in great shape Like
that would have been fine. It was her whole presentation
of the whole thing. Yep, it's just ridiculous. Yeah, so
fuck her, Yeah, Peter As, that's what I say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that talk to the people talking
shit behind her back. That's might be yeah, but also
it's it's one of those like no lies detected things right,
Like she said it in a shitty way, but she's
not wrong.
Speaker 4: Wrong, And I also don't think Ashley's ever going to
win this shit again. M I feel like the only
time that Ashley. So, Ashley won her first season because
Invasion the Champs was just a fucking bullshit season. And
she won her second season because she was paired with
Hunter and she came in late, and she also screwed
over her her alliances like they were able to prop
her up and somehow she and Hunter got the points.
So in all reality, I think Ashley kind of lucked
into both of her wins. As much as she wants
to say that she deserves it whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, not only that I agree with you and all
that that that is all true, but we're also seeing, uh,
these the old crew not do well in these challenges anymore, right,
and as she's part of that, it's like forty plus,
Like you're kind of fucking over you know, this is
what it is? Yep.
Speaker 4: No, like a niece is never going to win this shit, never, no, never,
never never. She had one season that she could have
potentially won it and that was her last season on
this on this show, and she.
Speaker 5: Fucked that up.
Speaker 3: So yep, yep. But I agree, No, she's.
Speaker 4: Not moving on. We've got Johnny saying that she's basically
pitching herself to all of the rookie guys, and apparently
none of the rookie guys want anything to do with her.
Speaker 3: This cut scene was sort of pathetic. It made a
look pretty pathetic.
Speaker 4: Ja. This entire season since she came in has seemed
super pathetic.
Speaker 3: What was this? Why why did she do this? Like
she's at the lowest of the thing. To me, it
seems sort of like like let your cards fall where
they may now, Like you you joined late. I get
that you're you're low on the points because of that, Like,
but to go and pitch yourself like this pathetically to
all of I don't know, it felt weird. Yeah, it
felt weird.
Speaker 4: From a champ, Johnny has just felt off this entire season.
She's felt very unsure of herself. She's felt very like
and honestly, I wonder if part of it is like
she was able to win two seasons of All Stars
where it's a bunch of old people competing with other
old people and it's not a bunch of newbies, like
being able to kick ass and take names, and now
that she's having to compete against these these newbies, she's like,
oh shit, no, I'm really not ready for this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I wonder definitely part of part of it, yep,
I think so.
Speaker 4: Um Oh, we've got Turbo talking to Cedric and Jeremi, uh,
basically telling the two of them that he wants to
go to the final with the both of them, and
they're like, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 5: We want to go to the final with you.
Speaker 4: Like you want to help us get there, we will
absolutely help you get there too, like works for us.
Speaker 3: Turbo is the only one that I believe when he
says I want to go to the final with strong people.
I think that's true of Turbo, and I think he
he knows he can beat Cedric and Jeremy. Probably.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that Turbo has a pretty fucking good
chance to win this entire season. Uh yeah, I would
be very surprised if.
Speaker 3: He doesn't seem intimidated, and he seems like he does
seem as he's talking to these people, it doesn't seem political.
He really to me, it seems like I know I
can beat you in the final, even though you're really good. Yeah,
it seems confident in cocky And what do I like
to see from Turbo?
Speaker 5: Yep, me too.
Speaker 4: Oh and then finally we've just got Mikayla and Olivia
talking to each other and or not talking to each other.
They're both talking at different times in they're talking heads
and both of them mentioned that they want to be
paired with Cedric. So it's just it's, like I said,
this entire episode is a lot of people talking about
who they want to be paired with. Those people talking
about that they want to be paired with other people
unbeknownst to the originals. It's it's kind of funny to
see everybody.
Speaker 3: Cedric is a weird rookie pick though. Right, It's like
it seems like Jearimy has been the standout. Cedric has
sort of like been been faded around.
Speaker 4: Like I was really surprised that Jeremy's name was not
thrown around more. I don't think anybody said Jeremy's name or.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It kind of baffles me because Jeremy from the get
go has shown us that he is really fucking good
at this ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so no.
Speaker 2: I don't would you say, maybe Cedric is more under
the radar. Yeah, I have a big target on his
back when all this stuff gets locked in, which means
whoever is paired with him is going to get thrown
into eliminations at whatever chance they get to do that.
Cedric's maybe more like third on the list, and maybe
that's a little safer position. He still does decently well,
but he's not like so good that there's a target
on him.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, I get we're coming with that.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, when we started this season,
Yera may beat the shit out of everybody running up
the mountain and running to the house and both of
those things, we thought that they were going to paint
a big target on his back. And he's been mentioned
for like one elimination. His name is base And granted
he's also done pretty well through most of these things,
but even when he hasn't done well, like he has
still kind of stayed under the radar. So I don't
really know if maybe it's just what we're seeing. I
don't know that he's any less safe than Cedric.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ryan says, maybe it's because he's mouldible like a
hear me, Cedric seems super fun like smiles and doesn't
take it all that seriously. But that's another reason I
kind of wonder why MICHAELA did this, Because MICHAELA takes
it so seriously mm hmm, and Cedric is kind of
like a jokester looking dude from like the little bit
we've seen of him. I think I think.
Speaker 4: For for Michayla specifically, I think that it's probably the
multible bit because she wants to be able to play
her game and she could probably get Cedric to go
along with what she wants to do, whereas hear me,
he's going to be a little bit more like, no,
I've got my own game.
Speaker 5: I want to play too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I do like Cedric a lot, and I
like Michaela obviously, like I like this parent of it.
It was a surprise to me when Michaela was so
he didn't like she wants Cedric. Yep, that was like,
that's weird, Like why Mikayla why?
Speaker 4: I was surprised by the too all right, and now
we're onto the challenge.
Speaker 2: Not so much challenge as a mini final when people doesn't.
Speaker 3: Also, I spend very little time on this ship because
it doesn't matter, It doesn't influence the game because of
all the cheating ship, the fact what a weird, what
a weird.
Speaker 4: Thing, the high the quick points before the before the
challenge even happens, we have the top eight men and
women like normal are going to be given points, and
those points this time around are going to be worth
one and a half per point rather than just one,
so you have the potential of really jumping up if
you are able to beat everybody else.
Speaker 5: And they are. The course is six running six miles on.
Speaker 4: A paved path on a paved road. I mean yeah,
like come on, so it's they're running six miles up
seventy or seven thousand feet. There are five checkpoints. The
first checkpoint is you have to memorize a set of
symbols that are a math equation on your way up.
The answer to said math equation is in Checkpoint two
is the lock code for this lock box. You open
the lock box. Here is nutrition in it, which we
find out later is garlic, an onion, and a half
a ginger, a.
Speaker 5: Hot pepper.
Speaker 4: I think that's it. You have to eat all of
the food before you can continue on to checkpoint four.
Checkpoint or sorry, checkpoint three. Checkpoint three is a puzzle tower.
It's basically just a bunch of blocks. You have to
match up the symbols on this tower, and everybody doesn't
really easily. Checkpoint four is you have to hang ten
chains and they all have to and you have to
create and hang ten chains and they all be the
same length.
Speaker 5: This really trips a lot of people up.
Speaker 4: And then checkpoint five is you have to answer a
riddle and the answer to that riddle is you're basically
playing hangman, but really you just you have to answer
a riddle and then you have to carry stones one
at a time from the riddle to the answer spot,
and once you've got your answer correct, then you can
run to the finish line, which is like twenty feet away.
Speaker 3: The sounds it yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 2: This challenge started. Were you guys waiting to see what
the big cheating scandal? Was it going to be?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I was like, Okay, what's it going to be?
Because when they come up with the lock combination and
some of the newbies start telling each other, I was like,
oh shit, is that going to be it? Is that
going to be the normal?
Speaker 4: Specifically? Because of that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, normally they don't don't really harp on that too much,
but I'm just like, is this gonna be the big thing?
And then you know, we get to the next one
and the next one, and then suddenly there's the big reveal.
Speaker 4: Of yeah, people, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Which of all eating challenges, I feel like this is
one of the easiest ones.
Speaker 3: Totally. It's totally Take.
Speaker 4: A bite of the garlic and swallow it. Take a
bite of like take the other half of the garlic.
Speaker 5: And swallow it.
Speaker 4: Take a bite of the onion, do two or three. Honestly,
I feel like that with most of the challenge, Like
you can get them to small enough morsels that you
can just swallow.
Speaker 3: It the country as you did Wolf. My buddy Favish,
his family grew onions and we picked him out of
the ground like fucking super Mario Brothers Part two. Remember
that when they just flogged them out, we would eat
them like apples, just for fun, for like multiple years.
I can still eat an app I could eat an
onion like an apple. Yeah, I'm not gonna say no problem,
it's they're good. It's gonna be a problem. But I
could fucking do it. I could do it easier than
a pig brain and shit like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, after I got it all in my stomach,
I may end up throwing it up just because that's
a lot.
Speaker 3: But I mean, like, this is nothing like regular food.
Speaker 4: It's just regular in comparison to some of the foods
that they have had on this show.
Speaker 5: This is pathetic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then we've got.
Speaker 3: We see some people throwing them away, right, we.
Speaker 4: See initially initially we we get through, like some people
start leaving the like they finish their food and they
start running on and then they get to checkpoint three
and check point four, and when they're at checkpoint four,
like doing the chains, is when we kind of flash
back to the eating thing. We realize, oh, like half
the people are still at the eating challenge. They still
haven't finished their food. And then Mikayla says, oh, by
the way, that's not my onion, and it cuts down
to an onion on the ground that is clearly it
has like a bite out of it. And then we
start here and all the people who are still there
just fucking pissed.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 4: So many people throw their food, and then we start
getting all the clips of like, yeah, I think it's
I don't know if it was d or Olivia throwing
their food behind them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely d was one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh, john A was one, like yeah, but Johnny was later, yes,
And I don't blame john A as much as I
blame sort of the early ones that weren't caught uh
once they once the challengers sort of get to the
point where it's like, oh, so many people have cheated.
I guess I'll just also cheat and take whatever penalty
the rest of us get. I kind of agree with that, Like,
I kind of I don't blame John A or Nissa
or one of the more people that did this sort
of later or take yeah, uh more respect for Derek
and America and those that didn't do it, of course,
but I also don't blame the other ones. Like this
is a weird thing, right.
Speaker 4: You are so clearly far behind everyone else. Yeah, they're like,
you're not going to catch up with them. There are
clearly people who have cheated significantly. You have tried your
fucking damnedest to get as much of this down as
you can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's.
Speaker 4: Kind of it's kind of like the the Challenge USA.
Uh a few years ago when one of the ladies
she went to bed in that overnight challenge where like
they had to finish counting the whatever, and she was like,
you know what, fuck this, I'm just gonna take the
penalty and I'm gonna go to bed, which we all
thought was a brilliant strategy, because why not. I mean
that you shouldn't be d q'ed for that. That's just
a you take the penalty and you go. And then
she got completely decued that season four, which I thought
was fucking stupid, but whatever. It's just it's one of
those things, like it's a it's kind of part of
the challenge, like this blatant was a little ridiculous, but
it is also still kind of part of the challenge.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, eating challenges are like this, Like it's usually
like you just put in your mouth for a second
and then throw it up, and like that's that's fair.
You can't throw it over your shoulder like that, Like
that's fucked up. That's yeah, and I do. I lost
a lot of respect for some of the people that
did it, like d who I liked previous to this,
so I'm kinda like, fuck you, d Yeah, I mean,
for like America and Derek.
Speaker 5: At least put it in your mouth.
Speaker 4: At least put it in your mouth, chew it up
a few times, and then.
Speaker 5: Act like you're throwing it.
Speaker 4: Like we've definitely seen that happen more than a few times. Sure,
Like that's how you cheat without actually cheating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was blatant, This is gross, This was not respectable.
I didn't like any part of this. I wish, you know, spoiler,
they threw out this whole competition, and I really wish
they would have rewarded people like Derek in America.
Speaker 4: I feel like they probably, like I feel like they
probably didn't have like all, they know a lot of
these people cheated. I feel like they probably couldn't prove
exactly who it was that had cheated, and that's why
they threw the whole thing out.
Speaker 3: No, it was, but I feel like they could have
done something else then, right like redo, like let's start,
let's start again, and like just the eating portion. I
don't know something, but this felt to throw the whole
thing out was just pretty fucked up. Especially and we'll
get into the will and the CT thing like this
could have changed the whole course of the game. Yes,
and for people that did it fairly, that didn't cheat,
they were now penalized for like having not cheated, and
that's fucked up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But we were talking about Turbo a little bit ago.
Speaker 5: Turbo just proves how good he's at this game.
Speaker 4: He literally he gets through the eating and he says,
this is like breakfast in Turkey. This is what I
have all the fucking time. I'm looking for the waiter,
wanting more. CT gets to the eating challenge and just
fucking houses all the molish because it's CT. Yes, Turbo
gets to checkpoint three, finishes the tower, and leaves before
anyone else even shows up, which we then find out
it's not quite as impressive because it seems like everybody
kind of does that. The tower seems pretty easy, super easy.
Speaker 3: They're knocking it over and shit, it's like that's not
doing anything because this is the easiest fucking problem. Nobody's
looking at. Anybody else is to figure this out, you
know what it is?
Speaker 4: Yep. Turbo gets to checkpoint four the chains, takes a
little bit to do it, but then continues on like
he gets it pretty quickly. M He then gets to
checkpoint five, which is the riddle, and it's just like, well.
Speaker 3: Fuck, loved this, loved it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what this means. I read a bunch
of words and they just all mean gobbledego for me.
So yep, Turbo sitster and in his talking head he's like, yeah,
so I'm I mean, I'm I'm playing with Sydney. I'm
just basically gonna wait until she finishes her checkpoint four
and gets to checkpoint five, and in the meantime, I'm
just going to start picking up all of the rocks
and running them to the top.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's awesome. Yeah, it's incredible. And I did like the though.
I liked the cooperating. I liked that it was sort
of like Sydney and Turbo clearly won each other, they're
working together. I liked. I liked all that. I liked
everything about the episode until they threw away the app,
Like the point of the app, I.
Speaker 4: Will say the one thing with the cheating, Like these
people really thought that they could get away with throwing
their food behind them. They are on a show that's
being televisied. There are so many fucking cameras. Really, what
is wrong with them?
Speaker 3: But whatever, I guarantee did the original ship. It was
the Vets that came in later and copied them. That
has to be how this worked out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I that's how what I think.
Speaker 3: So too.
Speaker 4: Oh, I have a note in here saying that I
really don't like Will. Multiple times in this episode. Will
first fuck.
Speaker 3: Out of me. He's awful, it's terrible.
Speaker 4: Uh oh yeah, shows up pretty late to check point
four and fucking rain Man's it like he does. She goes, oh,
I get this, and then boo, he's on to checkpoint five. Well,
there are still people who like who've been sitting there
for what looks like ten fifteen minutes and can't figure
out what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. For as much as all the women are like, oh,
I don't want to see T as a partner, CT
came in second. Yeah he beat all even all these
fucking new threat bitches that cheated. Yeah, you still beat
all of them, So fuck you.
Speaker 3: Is the perfect example of like you make it up
with the checkpoints. Yeah, like you fucking sloppy bitch. You
can't walk up a mountain solve a puzzle quick, so
you Yeah.
Speaker 4: The to the argument that Ashley and Anissa were having earlier,
he is the perfect example of what I think Anissa
thinks that she is. Anissa thinks that she can do
the same shit as CT. That she can, you know,
regardless of not being in the best of shape and
all that sort of things, she can still beast moded
up this mountain and win this challenge. Like she still
thinks that she has the has what it takes, and
she's just she's not on the same playing field. She
never has been.
Speaker 3: She never had what it took.
Speaker 2: She's never she's still beat Ashley though she's.
Speaker 3: Never she's never one, she's never one.
Speaker 2: No, But I'm just saying, if Ashley's going to run
her mouth, and as much as you want to defend
her and be like actually said, you wouldn't win either.
I would just be like, bitch, maybe you worry about
yourself and catch it up to me. Let alone the
people that are in front of me.
Speaker 5: Not denying that, not at all denying that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh, America is the very very very last one.
She's she's still back at the fucking eating challenge when
people are finishing.
Speaker 3: She's so chirming, so charming. When it went to.
Speaker 4: Any of this crushing you actually.
Speaker 3: Please tell me a lot of this bull ship.
Speaker 4: Tim is drunk.
Speaker 3: I am drunk.
Speaker 4: This is her talking about first generation of America, first
generation of American parents.
Speaker 6: And she was humble, she was and she like she
was loved the.
Speaker 4: Show and it's such a it's such an honor to
be here.
Speaker 5: And I don't want to quit, and.
Speaker 3: I don't care so cute. I loved this.
Speaker 2: I love this.
Speaker 3: America. Well, if he fell in love with America, you'd.
Speaker 2: Be like, I don't care why you're here, just want
to play.
Speaker 6: If you hit the button the other one, the other button, No,
the other button.
Speaker 3: No, the America button.
Speaker 6: God damn it, the America button.
Speaker 4: Do you forget?
Speaker 2: Do you forget it?
Speaker 4: God?
Speaker 3: Damage?
Speaker 2: Do you have the American button?
Speaker 4: Can you say it like that America?
Speaker 3: No? Say it like ms God damn it, Wolfy Donald
Trump your you're gonna wear the shirt of the band.
Speaker 4: You're gonna go see, don't be that guy.
Speaker 3: I'm done. I'm done. I'm marrick.
Speaker 5: This is a lot of fun. I'm enjoying this.
Speaker 3: Kylie text me before I lose Carlyn to help me.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Um alright, so yeah, Turbo finishes first. Sydney is the
first female to finish, her to finish. So the the
order in which people finish we have for men, it
goes Turbo CT, which was a CT was a bit
of a dark horse Will who I didn't realize that
Will was as good as at this ship and as
high up in the points as he apparently was. That
was surprised me, Yeah, so yeah, it's uh turbo ct
Will THEO of all people who fucking gassed out on
the last running challenge, Jeremy, Cedric Gabe, Leo, Jake Derrek
Leroy and I feel like I'm forgetting one of the guys.
Speaker 5: I don't know who though, And.
Speaker 4: Then Justin, Justin's in there somewhere. Uh. And then for
the women, it went Sydney, Aviv, d Olivia, Ashley, Uh, Nanny, Mikayla,
John Ay, Adrian, Anissa Tay, America Ashley.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I guess you did this, but she didn't.
Overall in points, she has.
Speaker 3: Finished last linf you hit the America button.
Speaker 4: So we can we get to the end, and has
everybody lined up, but everybody's waiting to hear the points
and like who won? And TJ says, you know, you
know how I hate quitters, Well, I hate cheaters even more.
Speaker 5: And there were a shit ton of cheaters on this episode.
Speaker 4: They have overwhelming evidence of a bunch of people cheating.
And because they have so much evidence of so many
people cheating, you know, does anybody want to cop to it?
And not a single person does. I was actually kind
of surprised by that. I would have thought that, like
Anissa or john A would because like they so obviously
purposely cheated, like way after everybody else. So I kind
of figured that they would just be like, yeah, I
mean everybody else had done it. I wanted to keep going,
but nobody cops to it, and so he goes, We're
just gonna throw the whole thing out. None of the
points matter nothing. You guys just did matter. Everybody's keeping
the places they were already in.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 3: It's fucked right. This this is real stupid. This is
the worst possible thing they could have on here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan's in the shot. I'm complaining because I'm not
reading enough of his comments, but he says, this cheating
thing sucks, and how the fuck did no cast members
bitch about it? They edited like everyone was fine with
the challenge getting thrown out. Lame as fuck.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, agree, totally agree, Yeah, super lame. They
should have absolutely found the cheaters whoever they could have found,
de que them, give them, give them zero, and let
the rest of the ship play out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I one hundred percent thought that it was going to be, uh,
you know, you've got your your top eight, and of
those top eight like, you know, four of them they
found video evidence of them cheating, and they're like, Okay,
well you guys don't get any points. We're pulling up
the next four totally because that would have made that
would have made so much that, Oh, that would have
been so much better.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: So I think they just couldn't figure out who had
actually been cheating, and they were they didn't want to
mess it up.
Speaker 3: Yep. And I also read that like some of this cheating, right,
like the telling each other answers to the quizzes, could
have also been considered cheating.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we see that sort of shit in all
kinds of seasons.
Speaker 3: Sure, But I mean, I guess just it adds to
this sort of complexity of like why they threw this
whole thing out. But yeah, I don't like them throwing
it out because it really did it could have changed
the game in a lot of ways. They punished people
that didn't deserve it, like, see, he didn't cheat. He
could have been in a much better position had this
thing counted and he wasn't, you know. And some people
are fine with it, like Mikaela, I don't think gives
a shit. She was top either way. So who cares.
But yeap for those of like like a Will, that
it mattered. I get Will. My will is pissed.
Speaker 4: I honestly for Will, I don't really understand why he
was pissed because he was already tied for first place,
like in the house, tied for first place with Araby.
So he's either going to get first or second pick like, yeah,
I mean.
Speaker 3: I guess he wanted first. He wanted first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it almost felt more like an ego thing
than it did like I want to be able to
pick this person type of thing for well.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it did affect his game.
Person he wanted he wanted to pick got picked before him.
Speaker 4: True, and he got before he could pick anybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it did affect his game. This whole situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 4: I just I don't know it just it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Ryan keeps harping that we haven't that we haven't mentioned
the CT finished second and Turbo was like really excited
about it. CT fell on the ground and then Turbo
acts like he's giving him CPR. It was a pretty
pretty funny little clip there, all right, like.
Speaker 2: He was going to give mouth to mouth to mouth
and Cet trying to make out with him.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's pretty hot. Calent. Kylie texted me.
Speaker 2: And oh my god, she's so clean. You should you
should just block her.
Speaker 4: Tim'll send you more than three words the whole.
Speaker 3: Show she did? She did, she said, crying laughing emoji.
You didn't get far enough into the conversation with any
others to even learn if they were or not. I'm
glad you gave me your number so I could text you.
Speaker 2: God, she just wants everything, just god, thirsty, thirsty.
Speaker 3: I know it's too much. I'm feeling. I'm feeling. Listen
to figure out box Boxton.
Speaker 5: So, Tim, was there something more to that that you wanted?
Speaker 3: No, just think about how how I should reply to that.
Speaker 4: And I have already given you you just haven't.
Speaker 2: How many words did she send? Tim shed after show?
Speaker 3: Will count him in the after show, Carl, and you
can give me a word for word, fourteen fourteen, it's
gotta be fourteen or less.
Speaker 2: So so what happened?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: All right? So yeah, we got back to the house
to cheat. Everybody hates that. Not everybody. A lot of
people hate this whole like the you know, cheating made
this whole thing did not count, and there's a lot
of bitching and moaning, but it's still a lot of
people talking about, you know, who they're going to pick
and all that sort of things. We get another little
clip of john A being really fucking weird. She is
talking to a few of the guys and says, like,
you know, I don't think that Tay and America really
understood what this whole cheating thing was about, and like
what what you're really supposed to do, And so she
she takes she gets America and like takes her off
to the side and tries to kind of explain like, oh,
you know, it's hey, this is how you cheat, and
like this is what you're supposed to do with that
sort of situation, and like it wasn't something anything against
you guys, and like we weren't trying to fuck you
guys over and thought and it made me feel and
I'm sure a lot of people felt this way. It
seemed like Johnny felt like she was the only one
who cheated, or like she was the only one who
got caught cheating. I don't know, it just Jenny looked
fucking ridiculous doing this, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is junior high. Shit right, have like punished
the whole class because of the because of one thing
and a weird way that turns the whole house against
the one person. And Johnny thinks she's that one person. Yeah,
so she's defensive about it, but it was like it.
Speaker 4: Was so clearly obvious when he was talking about it
that a lot of people cheated. It wasn't just her.
Speaker 5: I don't know it was.
Speaker 4: It was strange.
Speaker 3: And this she does.
Speaker 4: I did not like the way that Johnny came off
this episode. She looks really fucking pathetic. It's really the problem.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so she does that.
Speaker 4: Oh we get in Sydney's talking head she says that
she ate like ninety five percent of her stuff and says, oh,
you cheated only like five percent.
Speaker 3: So she taking a social media to talk more about this.
And I agree with this. When you get down to
like the fucking end of the onion, there is a
part that's inedible. It's like it's that middle fucking thing.
Speaker 4: That's what she said that like the little green piece.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get that. There's some part you can't,
like you can't shoot enough to fucking swallow it. I
get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I get that too, but at the same time,
it's an eating challenge.
Speaker 3: Hmmm, I'm defending her. She's pushing well.
Speaker 4: And then so then we get a cut scene to
they they are being served a fancy dinner.
Speaker 2: Which I think the fair thing would have been. They
put all the plates they got the little silver you know,
domes on them and then they reveal them and be like,
the only food we brought into the house for this
dinner is one and a half bolbs of onion, garlic,
ginger and whatever else.
Speaker 3: Yes, part of me did this or starve?
Speaker 4: Yeah, part of me did think that for the people
that they knew cheated, they were going to do something
like that for But he didn't do anything. Watched it, Yeah,
and C t asked, Okay, so for all the newbies,
what do you guys think of your first season of
the Challenge? And they start going around talking about I
fast forwarded through all of that because I didn't care.
Speaker 2: Did you see Will tell everybody that they were bitches
for cheap?
Speaker 4: I am not there yet. I fast forwarded, fast forwarded
that all of the sentimental bullshit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but still he stopped the stinky part. But he's
stinked up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So then Will he starts talking.
Speaker 4: He is okay, no, fine, I'll just I guess I'll wait,
and he does it super rude like people like people
are still talking about other things. And then he like
he clearly has something to say, clearly has something to say,
you know. Finally, like every kind of why it's down,
and he gets going on his little diatribe of like,
you know, I this whole cheating thing is bullshit, and
like if I if you want to pick me as
a partner, like if you're one of the people who
cheated it, I really don't want you as.
Speaker 5: A partner because it shows what kind of person you are.
Speaker 4: And I think he just goes on this whole thing
about how he hates the cheaters and that they really
fucked him over and that they really fucked up this
game and that they should be that they should have
been punished, and that he's mad about it, and everybody
was like, he's right.
Speaker 2: Game, he's right. Not denying that does not get the
partner he once because everybody fucked him over.
Speaker 3: I hate this because I hate Will. I hate Will.
I think he's a dramatic, fucking.
Speaker 4: So overly dramatic.
Speaker 3: I could never hang with that guy. I could never
fucking hang with this guy.
Speaker 2: I could, I would be in a competition with them.
Speaker 3: He's right here, and I don't like this. He's He's
totally right. He should be pissed.
Speaker 4: My favorite part about this whole little conversation is you
have CT and Turbo at the end of the table
talking and one of the two of them says, oh,
we'll just got broken up with and he doesn't even
know it because Nanny, you you can watch in real time,
Nanny get the ick.
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I saw it.
Speaker 4: I saw it, wrotch her face in real time. Good,
just you see it immediately. And she's just like, yeah,
that was that was not we that did not need
to happen right now. There's a time that place for it,
and this dinner was not that time and place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she even said something. It wasn't like I have
the ech, but she said something like you got to
read the room, dude, Like she said something that was like, oh,
I see it, Carl, I see it, I see it. Nanny,
You're done.
Speaker 5: Real time, real time got the.
Speaker 3: Yeah tapped out of this one.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I did too, Nanny, I did too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I found that pretty funny. And then we're
on to the next day.
Speaker 3: Hang on, you got you see this guy, right, this guy,
this guy's problems. This guy's red flag. If you if
you saw this guy on a dating app, will he's
just he's a swipe writer.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean not on a dating app because she
hasn't had a conversation with it.
Speaker 3: He's hot, but he's got problems.
Speaker 2: How are you going to see that in a dating app?
Speaker 3: I feel like you could sus that out, like right
away if you are Carlin, who knows things.
Speaker 2: This would be the one where Carl Carlin would send
a message and be like, hey, I'm Carlin, and then
the guy would respond. Jesus fucking Christ, Why did it
take so long for you to reply? I don't twelve words?
You better said more.
Speaker 3: I'm counting your word. God, those lunatics the count words. God,
it's wrong.
Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody.
Speaker 3: God, they're all fucked up.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes they are.
Speaker 3: Don't keep count It's so dumb.
Speaker 2: You don't need to tell me. Ryan says Nonny fucking
on TV and getting around say of the challenge.
Speaker 5: All right, I mean I'm good. I'm glad for her.
Speaker 4: Like a girl, get after it, as long as it's
not as long as you're not like really putting your
heart into it, letting your head get completely fucked up
around it was a bear?
Speaker 3: Was a bear though? Bad dude, It's bad dude. He's
gonna tear the coolers at a camp site. What what happened?
Just keep going, keep yeah.
Speaker 5: We've got the next day.
Speaker 4: We've got a lot of talk of like people talking
about who they want to pick who. Jake says he
really doesn't want.
Speaker 5: An a uh. Dee says that she really wants Turbo
to pick.
Speaker 3: Her t asks is de.
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 5: We get a Really?
Speaker 4: I found this scene kind of funny, but it also
look ridiculous. C T sits down with tay and and
you can see him. He looks so fucking nervous.
Speaker 3: This is a really.
Speaker 4: He does we're a fifteen year old? Will you go
to prom with me? This is so weird, awkward, doesn't
know how to ask a girl out type of conversation.
Speaker 3: Why did they do this?
Speaker 4: Hey, if she wants to be his partner.
Speaker 3: Karan, why did they do this? Why did they do
this scene? Why does he T do this? What's happening?
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: I found the same question just because it's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's nervous because he's not been doing well this season.
Speaker 3: He's playing a part, he's not he's fucking around here.
He's just having fun.
Speaker 5: Probably maybe I don't really know. M Yeah, we got that.
Speaker 4: We've got Oh, we also get some like we see
that Nannie is not super She like she does not
want to be Will's partner in the challenge in the
in the rest of the game. She's really hoping for
someone else to pick her. So we see her talking
with Justin saying, hey, Justin, will you pick me? And
he's like, yeah, absolutely, will pick you. We see her
talk to Leo and ask the same thing to him. Gabe.
Gabe is just kind of resigned to the fact that
he thinks that he's gonna end up with Johnny because
he's going to end up with Johnny because he's in
the last place, and so is she. And then we've
got Will bitching and moaning. Oh my god, so much
bitching and moaning about the challenge and about the cheating
and all the shit, Like you can't go back and
change it. It's already happened, Nothing's gonna nothing's gonna change
that outcome. Yeah, bitching and moaning to Nannie and Nanni
is just like, oh my god, dude, you are doing
way too much, way too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the new gies are hard to deal with, I think.
And some of them yeah like large dozes, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of them definitely, well too much dealing.
Speaker 3: Well is a lot, dude. I couldn't deal with that
fucking guy will It is very sensitive.
Speaker 2: I think if I was on the show, I would
have similar problems. I would not be able to separate
the game from real life. And now he tries to
tell him that and he's like, yeah, but this whole
thing is not real life. And she's like she's going
to answer it.
Speaker 3: She's just like that's what I'm fucking saying, dumbas you.
Speaker 4: Retard, Yeah, and she's she just says like this, this
whole this is this is in saying this is crazy,
Like I don't know what to do, and he goes,
you're crazy, calls her crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean to be fair, not saying that it's.
Speaker 3: Not true, but crazy people can call other people crazy.
Speaker 4: America and Leroy talked to each other and both of
them kind of decide like, yeah, we want each other
as partners.
Speaker 3: Well, Lera is just like I'll take any please, yeah
brown on that sound part please.
Speaker 4: We've got Olivia telling Nanny that she's considering either Will
or Leo, and she wanted to check with Nanny because
she and Nannie and Nanny and Will have been fucking
and she knows that they might pick each other and
not please no, if you have the chance to pick him,
pick him, Nanny or who. I've already said that. Uh. Oh,
Will tells Aviv that if she's still up there when
he gets to pick, then he's going to pick her.
Speaker 5: And then we go to the selection.
Speaker 4: You don't say my name, bitch, or do.
Speaker 2: Say my name?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Please say my name, bitch.
Speaker 4: So we get told by TJ that, uh, there will
be no elimination tonight because we are doing the lock in.
Speaker 3: And there are Do you ever go to lock in?
Speaker 4: Carlin? I did not.
Speaker 5: When I was in high school.
Speaker 3: Or generation or whatever that was then something, but like
every other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why they thought we were
so cool though, either, like, oh, I get to sleep
at the school tonight, Yeah.
Speaker 4: At home, and you better hang out with my friends
all night.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't talk to any of those people anymore,
so was obviously wasting time.
Speaker 4: So t J I also says, uh, for the people
who are tied in points, we are going to go
by whoever has placed the highest in the most of
the fur in the most of highest and the most
of the first child. But sounds I wrote that sentence
weird anyway.
Speaker 3: Well, what harar it's done is it's kind of weird,
right because the house sort of figured that it was
one way, but then it was the other way, right.
Speaker 4: Well, no, because they they weren't sure if it was
going to be Will Riemie. Will was kind of hoping
that it was going to be him because he hit
he got to that second place spot before Jeremy did.
Speaker 3: And that's why I think I assumed it would be
Will also, I guess for that same exact reason. But
then it was Jeremy was first. And I don't think
we know why it was Jearimi.
Speaker 5: I literally just said it.
Speaker 4: It's because Jeremy placed higher more often than Will did
and they just both ended up with the same not
they ultimately ended up with the same number of points,
but Jeremy got it because he got higher points.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's stupid. Yeah, I agree that also see that
that's like they just picked a measurement right because they like.
Speaker 4: They needed something that they could that they could have
that wouldn't be like a random arbitrary like we flipped
a coin.
Speaker 3: Right, But I mean it's no matter what you're flipping
a coin because you could say, like, well, Will got
the points first, and so now Will is It's like
it's you know, either way, it's sort of as fair,
like you can sort of make a case that it's fair,
but it doesn't actually, like in.
Speaker 4: All reality, they probably should have just TJ should have
just flipped a coin then and there, because he's used
the coin multiple times in this in this season already.
Speaker 5: He should have just flipped a coin that would have.
Speaker 3: Made figured of the fucking cheater thing and like made
the last thing actually matter.
Speaker 4: But yes, I agree that toom So are you ready
for the for the lock in? Yeah, I want you
guys has input on what you think of these pairings.
So Mikayla gets to go first. She has the highest
number of points of anyone in the house, and she
immediately pick picks Cedric.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of talked to this a little bit earlier.
Speaker 3: Do you think she wanted him? Like she said at
the beginning, she wanted him. I'm glad she got him.
I don't see what. I don't see it. I hope
I do. I see it with Mikayla, and Mikayla's awesome,
so I trust her. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I still think it's my theory that he's not the
tippy top of the target list, but he still seems
to come in. He does well enough. Yeah, she can.
She can do that, because she points out in the
challenge she's already tabulated at that point, like, even if
I don't come in first, I will still be ahead
of everybody else. So I think she's like, yeah, it
doesn't matter. Slow and steady is going to win over
picking a monster right off the bat and then getting
thrown into every elimination until Definale.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think you're probably true. Will On
On Why that why she ultimately ended up picking him.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, That's that's who Mikayla is.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: She's so calculated and she's so like she can win, yes,
and so she's not going to go for the top
guy necessarily, like she's going to go for the guy
that's most beneficial for her, and I think that I
trust her.
Speaker 4: Like, it's done really well in this game. He hasn't
been top of the pack the entire time, but he's
done well.
Speaker 3: He'sn't well enough to like sort of to get by.
Yeah he's not like you said. Yeah, he's not the
top performing he's but he's he's good enough and he's
done really well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan points out Mikayla doesn't need a decision make
her for a partner, she needs someone who compliments her.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Her and Jeremy have a little problem with that earlier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like they had a little bit of
like butting heads. She and somebody know her and Leo
at one point in time butted heads.
Speaker 5: So second place.
Speaker 4: Is Jeremy and he picks a viv I think of
all of the vet women, smartest choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's weird. His hands are tied. I mean,
she's she's the best choice for him, but not like
that a great choice, you know.
Speaker 4: Frankly well, I mean it was either a viv or Olivia.
Speaker 3: Well or Ashley or Anissa.
Speaker 4: But no one's going to pick Ashley or john A.
Speaker 3: No. I think they realistically the only two.
Speaker 4: Choices were Olivia or Aviv. Yeah, and I think Aviv
is a lot easier for the same reasons why, MICHAELA.
Speaker 5: Pit Cedric.
Speaker 4: I think Aviv fits that same kind of criteria. She's
done really well. She's a little she's not going to be,
you know, as comp creation is like an Olivia. She's
not gonna have a target on her back immediately. Yeah,
so I think you're a good choice. It's a height
difference I think is going to be a problem.
Speaker 3: High difference, and also just sort of like like there's
a big divide between vets and new threats and just
sort of like capability of what they can do, right,
like Jearimie is top of his pack and Aviv is
like pretty good.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I don't know a Viva is top
of the of the women. She finished second in the
Many Challenge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, but.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't I don't know where you were
going with your argument, but okay, uh, third place is
the best suck?
Speaker 3: My My argument is the VET suck the VET. Yeah,
I'm sorry. The new threat women are better than the
VET women, and the New Threat men are better than
the veatman so you're you're you're purposely pairing with somebody
not as good as you, and so like Jearmie is
better than a viv straight up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Michaela's better than Cedric.
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, And I had weird I had weird things
to say about that one too, Like these are weird,
Like it's weird parings, which I mean, I guess is
part of the show. But yes, anyway, keep going, all.
Speaker 4: Right, So Olivia, she comes up and she picks Will.
I I mean, I guess Will is an okay player,
but like is a good player. But I just I
don't get it.
Speaker 2: Bad call.
Speaker 3: It's bad call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think of the people that were I
think of the men, the New Threat men that were left.
I would have taken Jake or Leo over Will.
Speaker 3: Jake's the same guy, They're the same person, except Jake
is less dramatic and less sort of volatile and weird. Yeah, yes, Jake,
totally yep.
Speaker 4: Next one is Sydney, and Sidney immediately picks Turbo, which,
like we all knew this was gonna happen. They're gonna Yeah, honestly,
if they do not win this entire thing, I am
going to be fucking floor.
Speaker 3: Yeah. If these pairs are the payers of the end,
that's the winners for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they I mean that is that is such
a strong team.
Speaker 5: Such a strong team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh next surprising. Next, Anissa is the next person
who gets to pick just six person to pick on
this thing, which is insane. Anissa picks Jake, and she
does it because she says they're both like fun, loving
and happy and lucky, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah he does.
Speaker 2: Jake earlier in the episode said he wanted.
Speaker 3: To pick a Jake's fullshit.
Speaker 4: I think that he knew that Anissa was going to
pick him, and he was just kind of resigning himself
to that fact.
Speaker 2: I did not get that from the conversation at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's probably true because yeah, I mean
the other the other VET women are Nannie, Ashley and
and John Ay.
Speaker 5: So I think of all of them, yeah, Anissa.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean that's my point, like they all
suck for Yeah, I think for the VET for the
New threat dude, just the work.
Speaker 4: Like, honestly, for the for the New Threats, picking any
VET sucks because for the Vets you have Mikayla, Olivia
and Turbo and those are the only three like really
good Vets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone else and Derek and yeah the fucking yeah, everybody.
Speaker 4: Else is awful, whereas the New Threats they have a
consistent number, like a really really awesome number of good players. Yeah,
all right, So next one is Adrian. She picks Theo,
which is kind of an odd pairing.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's kind of.
Speaker 4: I don't know who else you was till they're gone. Yeah,
it does kind of seem like a nothing team.
Speaker 5: Uh, Justin goes next.
Speaker 4: He picks Nanny, which she seems very surprised by this,
but it's like, Nanni, you literally had a conversation with
him earlier in this episode about having him pick her.
Speaker 3: Well, Ashley was surprised too, because I think I think
everybody kind of assumed that Justin would pick Ashley. But
Justin did not pick Ashley because of the Ashley fight
with a Nissa. Yeah right, he didn't want that target,
like that's weird chaos now, So he wanted somebody that'll
Calmber I think, yep.
Speaker 4: And then Leo picks Ashley because he's like, well I
either have Ashley or Johnnay, and I do not want
John a.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go for the chaotic lesser of two evils. Yep, Leo,
that's an unfortunate choice.
Speaker 3: He's at a very big disadvantage.
Speaker 4: Sorry uh c t He says hey, faster than anyone
could ever say anything. Yeah she was yep, America picks Leroy.
Then we get d and de says, yeah, I'm picking
a family man, a really great guy, the guy who
just happens to be standing next to me, Derek. And
she's like super, she's acting super excited about it, and Derek,
in his talking head, is like, what the fuck is
going on? This is the first time in seasons that
I have liked Derek his little like three Then at
tire thirty second talking head of him being like, I
don't understand why she's so excited about this. We have
been like actively playing against each other all season. This
is this is a marriage maid in hell. I just
his a little clip there I found funny.
Speaker 3: But she at this point she had Derek. Who is
the other one she could have chosen?
Speaker 4: She had she had Derek, there was no other choice.
Speaker 3: So she just pretended because like, you can't act like
I'm stuck withing you. This sucks you had to like
pretend like you like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's still it just her over enthusiasm, I
think is what Derek was like. I don't understand, which
is funny because Derek is always over enthusiastic about everything.
Speaker 3: And Ryan says, can Derek fix his hair?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Please? That hair drives me fucking nuts every time you
see that shit, it's worse every time.
Speaker 4: Yes, So clearly he's so clearly losing hair. So it's
this very very very sparse like kind of faux hawk.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so weird, so weird.
Speaker 5: Yep uh. And then the last team is Gabe and Johnny.
Speaker 4: They are repaired with each other, and Johnny seems really
excited about this and Gabe is not.
Speaker 3: I think the women are just better at like acting
like like acting like acting like it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I do think that john A is actually pretty excited
about who she got, though, do you really is a?
Gabe seems like a pretty good player, Yeah, we'll see.
I guess he was good in that elimination. He didn't
do very well in many final, so maybe I take
that back, all right, And then TJ says, all right,
going forward, this is this is what your teams are
and every elimination. Uh, be prepared because you guys are
not going home as individuals anymore. You're going home as
a pair. So I hope you're like your teams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the episode. We're half done, right, because
then we get the mid season trailer, So we're half
done this season.
Speaker 4: Mid season trailer looks good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna go faster now because it's too.
Speaker 2: Apparently nanny and it needs to get in a fight.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're like in each other's faces.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It seems like a pretty cool end of season. Like
there's like, what do they call it a stake a claim?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it looks like so spoilers for anybody who
doesn't watch the next week on or the trailers, it
does look like there might be the potential of some
pairing switch ups. Like maybe it's a if you are
going like if you win that week and you don't
want to be with your partner anymore, you could stick it,
Or if if you don't win and you're not voted in,
you could then like stake a claim and say I
want to go into the sand to try and win
that person is my partner.
Speaker 3: Theoretical, right, we have no idea.
Speaker 4: I am literally I'm trying.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, and that's that's as good of a theory
as anything else that we see. And like, I'm excited
about that too. What that What that means to the game?
I wish we knew. I think it would be more
exciting if I knew going into this.
Speaker 4: But you know, it would be nice if we just
had a little bit of a little bit of an
idea as to what the stakerr claim, then the rest
of the season was going to look like, yeah, it'd
be nice, yep, But you know, it's never how that works.
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Speaker 2: Before we get into our fantasy league. We do have
a piece of feedback on Spotify. Christina said, you have
lost a longtime loyal listener. I don't listen to hear
your political views. I don't know listen because I share
your love for the challenge and I love Zachi Bananas,
not enough to hear your political bs. And she gave
a Deuce's emoji peace out. Well, Christine, I'm sure you
figured out you don't always get You don't always get
what you want in life. Life can be disappointing.
Speaker 3: Like the Rolling Stone said, yep, yeah, Well, so we've
talked politics on this podcast from the very beginning. Yep,
uh Wolfe, you and I Carlos before your Time interviewed
Shane episode three of this podcast nearly ten years ago,
and I asked Shane about magas shit. Shane eumoded about
magas shit way back then. It's a pretty consistent thing.
We get really negative feedback from comments. Can talk about politics.
That's what it is. I'm gonna keep talking. I'm gonna
keep doing it.
Speaker 4: No, that's living in an authoritarian state.
Speaker 2: Yep, So dear Leader tells us we can't do it anymore. Totally,
the podcast is gonna move to the dark word.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, really, CARLN. When you were in town, I
said this, and I agree with this. We're talking about politics.
Trump is a danger to me. That's the way I
feel about it. This is a dangerous human, dangerous person.
It's dangerous for the country, it's dangerous to the world.
And for me to just like sit there and not
say it is pathetic. I should say I should be
allowed to say it. And I'm gonna and for all
of you fucking retards out there telling me to shut up,
uh no, I'm not going because I think this is dangerous.
I think this is a problem. I say this all
the time. You've seen me say this is strangers at bars.
I get kicked out of parties for saying this ship
it's important and we have to say it. We have
to say it if we if you don't like this
authoritarian fucking fascist ship, you have to say it.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: Uh so stand up.
Speaker 2: And drop our bombs.
Speaker 3: Though that's maybe not retart is fine now I read
a report about it. It's fine to say that. Retard again,
So what Trump said, That's what I said.
Speaker 4: Retard's fine, but m hmm, yeah, I'm not going to
agree with that bit.
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to co sign that one.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but.
Speaker 3: We agree that you shouldn't genocide people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you shouldn't genesize.
Speaker 3: We can agree to disagree.
Speaker 4: Talk out absolutely, talking if you feel like you need to,
especially when we are being run by an authoritarian fascist regime.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Especially Yes, no more points that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a president who thinks that he can tell
people what they can and cannot hear.
Speaker 5: And that's not okay.
Speaker 3: And I love that. I love a podcast comment telling
me to shut up. It's like, oh yeah, maybe maybe
now I will. It's not worked yet. Leave more comments fucking.
Speaker 4: Idiots, Yeah, Christine, we can't even get him to shut up.
Just between all of us friends.
Speaker 3: Good luck.
Speaker 6: All right, this is what democracy looks like.
Speaker 3: We're supposed to talk about it.
Speaker 4: This is true. Onto the fantasy leagues, the host league.
Tim is beating the absolute fucking socks off off, and I.
Speaker 3: Right, fuck right, fuck right, I am.
Speaker 5: You finally did something right, Tim, with.
Speaker 3: A bullet you can't catch up shot run with this.
I'm running the half way through. You could lose two
people next week. I'm running away with it. We gotta
we gotta figure out the division because I don't think
I can lose to people. But I've only lost one
and I'm fucking in first place, and fuck you, guys,
I'm destroying you.
Speaker 4: All right. So you have Will, Sidney, Justin, Ashley, Mikayla,
and Leroy.
Speaker 3: Everybody baby except Leroy is my only one that's not
gonna do well.
Speaker 4: They're all gonna that's just not gonna do well.
Speaker 3: Who's actually paired with Will?
Speaker 4: No, Ashley's paired with Justin Justin Yeah, actually non easier
Justin Yeah, Leo real yeah Leo. Yeah. So you won't
if people go home, When people go home, you won't
lose two at a time because you don't have any pairs.
Speaker 3: Fuck right, I'm gonna run away with this ship by
a lot.
Speaker 4: But well, we're gonna say, yeah, you're at fifteen sixty three.
I am in second place at twelve thirty two, and we'll.
Speaker 6: Say whale eleven twelve way lower, wayal lower, pathetic.
Speaker 3: I hope you guys are sleep.
Speaker 2: I have CT and TA, so that could be a problem.
Other than that, I think I am.
Speaker 4: I have Anissa and I have Olivia, Nanni, Anissa and Jake.
Those are my only fourteen players. And uh, Anissa and
Jake are pair together. I yeah, I'm gonna lose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna win.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 3: Put your money on me, bitches. I'm taking it. I'm
taking it all right.
Speaker 4: And the one that everybody actually cares about publicly, Okay, guys,
I mean I have I keep I keep saying the ship.
I need someone to pull ahead in the.
Speaker 3: Points, Carlyn. I'm trying. I'm still well. And I love
that the advice is always the same. It's like watch
the previews and then like make make your best choices. Yeah,
we're all doing that. We're all doing that. It's just
you're better at it than the rest, and that's why
you have a higher score.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I picked for my thing this week. I guess what,
I got forty five and forty two points. It's like
garbage points.
Speaker 3: It's like Michael Jordan just fucking slam dunk the basketball
idiots and then you get more points. Well, yeah, but
what if I can't do that thing, like I'm not
as good at that there fair but get the home
run idiot, just hit it over the thing, and then
you get more points my.
Speaker 2: Choices or are you just becoming a Nelson? And then
just cuts to you and you go, well, you see,
sometimes you gotta pick the best players for your week.
Speaker 3: You get a lot of points ahead that way. My
strategy is to pick the players that are gonna good points.
Speaker 2: Strategy.
Speaker 4: It's better my picking is gonna be ship because that
next week on or next season, the rest of the
season on didn't give any ideas to what this next
episode is gonna be.
Speaker 3: Also, you're burning your vote. I promise you're gonna run
out of players.
Speaker 4: We'll see, all right. Second place it's still mister Peter
b non eal business and third place is still Jeremy
h take the money and run we have. Patty Ka
has moved up to fourth place. Moved up two spots
to fourth place. Why are you here? Fifth place is
still Stephen. We'll get saddle up, lockload, explode, chew, chew,
and sixth place, moving up four spots, Craig, mister smash
his head and eat it.
Speaker 5: Well done, sir.
Speaker 4: And then for the hosts, we have mister released the
Epstein files. Tim Wawson, yep, we have the host team.
We moved up three spots this past week.
Speaker 3: God, I'm doing a really poor job of sandbagging that one,
but I'm gonna try harder.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: So we're in eleventh place for that one, and mister.
Speaker 2: Twenty fourth place. I moved up two spots.
Speaker 4: Nice, Oh I missed. Nice, skipped over you apparently, yep,
be better, be better, dude.
Speaker 2: All you gotta do is hit that home run. You're fine.
Speaker 3: All you gotta do is we dude.
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, guys, can you just win?
Speaker 3: Pick the ones that are gonna do good will be?
Speaker 5: That's everything I have?
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 2: All right? Uh do we ever find out if there's
a break coming up?
Speaker 3: There's absolutely break coming out?
Speaker 4: No in the in the show at one point time
where we're talking about how they were gonna take a
week break or two week break or something like that. Oh,
I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I think we passed that already. Yeah, but there is
not gonna be a long break because this this show ends.
Speaker 4: After this show, there will be a long like after
the season's over, you're talking about.
Speaker 3: What I mean? Yeah, I like six months, Like it's
gonna be a long one.
Speaker 4: I mean, if it ever comes back. We have confirmation
that season forty two is a thing.
Speaker 2: No, I hope the fas canceled.
Speaker 3: Can we have a podcast? All Star six is semi
confirmed for March for filming. Yeah, we're just sort of
like who knows, you know, like that's even that feels
like yeah, so like.
Speaker 4: This will can also stop airing in what December, and
then it'll be three months before All Stars six picks
up to even film. Yep, oh jesus, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in a weird like uh and we'll fore
you can speak to this too. But there's like acquisitions
and mergers and all this shit, and yeah, we're just
in a weird fucking place. And yes, there's not gonna
be anything.
Speaker 4: For the president trying to cancel TV shows because he
doesn't like what they say.
Speaker 3: Yep, all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, head over to challenge by dot com,
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Speaker 2: And as t J said, the thing I hate worse
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