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Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome,
Thank you for getting your pot on, thanks for telling
a friend a little bonus episode here on a Friday,
because Kevin said, Hey, do you want me to reach
out to a friend of mine in Los Angeles? And
I went, who the hell do you know in LA? Well,
it turns out Kevin does.
Speaker 3: Tom Hanks spoiler.
Speaker 1: That would be so funny if I like, like totally mocked.
He was like, who the fuck would you know? And
then all of a sudden, it's like some A list celebrities,
but it is an A listy. It's Aaron's Ober. Aaron,
how are you, sir?
Speaker 2: Thank you? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. You and Kevin were college buddies, I assume
in college radio station buddies.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, back to one oh six VIC at Ithaca
College in Ithaca, New York. Yeah, that was like, I
can't believe that was actually thirty years ago, because it
feels like yesterday that we were doing that.
Speaker 1: Wow, I know, man, after thirty years goes fast, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Campus is completely different now too. I drove a couple
of years ago and there's nothing that's the same.
Speaker 1: That's what I hear. So, Aaron, you also do a
podcast called The.
Speaker 2: The Appropriate Omnivore, the about best products and sustainable food.
Speaker 1: The best Okay, The Appropriate Omnivore. I like that.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's something that can help you lose some of
those elbows.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thank you. Maybe I could use some help.
I could definitely use some help. So, Aaron, the reason
we wanted to talk to you was what's happening in
Los Angeles in the fires? Yes, and maybe you can
kind of paint us a picture right now as to
what is happening and where are you in proximity to
all the action?
Speaker 2: Right So, I live in the neighborhood of Highland Park,
which is a little bit south of Pasadena, so I'm
not far from where the Eton fire is. Fortunately for me,
I'm out of the evacuation area. And that's one of
the major fires.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: There's also major fire up in Santa Clarita and the
biggest one in what's often a site of the fires
is Malibu. That's yeah, well this is Pallisades actually, which
is next to Malibu. But they have that area on
the coast. Often there's a lot a lot of times
fires in that area.
Speaker 1: Yeah. How many years have you lived in LA.
Speaker 2: Let's see, so I've lived in LA about twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Now. You missed Cleveland?
Speaker 2: Are there certainly parts of it I miss?
Speaker 1: Oh, don't lie? What part the weather? This?
Speaker 2: Four teams? I'm still in Cleveland, fads. So, yeah, I
just gone to those games. I think that's probably the
main thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think the weather's got to be pretty
significant where you are. Yeah, so with these fires, and
as you started to say, I felt like you said,
and correct me if I'm wrong. There's they're always up
in Malibu.
Speaker 2: Right, that area is a common area for the fires.
Speaker 1: Because here's what I know a little bit about California.
You get some big wins there. And here's the thing
that I find all this really sort of frustrating because
for the rest of the country, never having dealt with
these kind of fires like it's it's also your air quality.
It affects beyond the people that are directly affected by
the fire. Right, there's a lot of and traffic. Right,
just try and get in anywhere, and now you've got
rights closed in LA it's got some of the worst
traffic on the planet. Yes, yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The air quality is a very good point to bring up,
because even if you're in such as an area where
I am, which is considered safe, you still have to
look at the air quality. I recommend the site Purple Air.
It gives a number of the quality, and you want
to be in the low numbers, the green colors. So
it's something that I've been paying attention to, and it's
it's a little better today, but yes, wherever you are,
there's there's the air quality. And this is something that
I've known from living in Los Angeles for the time
that I have that even if you're not in the
areas of the fires. I remember, oh, this was like
twenty years ago when there were again fires in Malibu
and I was working in the Valley, which was closer
to Melbourn than where I lived. And yeah, just being
like the West Valley one day seeing ashes just in
the air from being.
Speaker 1: Right if you go on your cars covered area, well,
just I.
Speaker 3: Just remember what two summers ago. We're mentioned here about
the Canadian wildfires in the smoke, and it wasn't nearly
as bad. I'm assuming what you guys are going right now.
Speaker 1: Not bad because there's he's so much closer. And when
we would go out there, it smelled like campfire. Campfire, right,
and your car was covered in ash and all that stuff.
And that's how many miles away versus that was in
Western Canada. Yeah, so it caught the jet stream in
capland the police.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, And it was an important thing that I
learned actually from talking to a friend today who had
to evacuate sadly from the even fire. She said that
like even like when the fires are done, that they're
still like and even if you know the house is there,
that there's like work that needs to be done to
the house because of like the air and some of
the ash that gets, uh that gets onto the house
in that evacuation area.
Speaker 1: Sure, well, just in your vents and stuff, you know.
I Mean, there's many layers to this, but the one
that that's sort of bothering me is for people outside
of LA the headlines that I'm seeing, it's so frustrating
to me because there's one today, okay, and to do
some research. I didn't I'm no, I didn't do research.
All I did was I would like to just see
if we could logically think through this. Okay.
Speaker 3: I'm not a chance.
Speaker 1: Okay, but these are the things that really really bother me.
And then we can go to the other side, because
I guarantee these become like political sides. And I don't
really understand why. But there's a headline in the New
York Post, okay, and I want to know how we
cut through headlines like this. Thanks, but no thanks, La
Mayor Bass rejects FDN wise offered a help despite not
having enough firefighters to battle blazes still raging sources. That's
what they say. So in other words, New York City
has reached out with men who are ready to go
and women who are ready to go fight the fires,
and La said, no, it.
Speaker 3: Might be too early to go. More people in there.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the other thing. You're on the other side
of the fucking planet. Why am I going to pay
for that when I could probably go to San Diego,
or I could go to San Francisco and get those
fire guys to do you understand what I'm saying Arizona.
That's that's the stuff that I go. But of course
it'll become well, they don't want to help it. That's
I don't think that's it.
Speaker 3: It'd be bad that headlines have become what now what
that was years ago?
Speaker 1: Yes, put the funny headlines. Yes, that's now their life.
Speaker 2: I think they've been a while. They've been like this
for a while with the fires. I think of that
Bad Religion song which they released I think like twenty
years ago, Los Angeles is burning. There's the line I
don't believe the media Mecca. They're only trying the pedal reality. Yeah,
and there's always been Yeah that song really actually every
year when there's fires, I always listen to because I
think it actually captures what happens with the fires. It says,
you know, flames are burning, cameras running. Yeah, yeah, it's
just you have a fire, and the media wants to
make any kind of story out of it.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't say, like this one seems like, yeah,
you may want to warn some people because that this
got got big and out of control. And now I
think two people have been arrested for another fire that
is came up. It was arson, but it was further inland.
Speaker 3: That's the one Jamons was talking about the letter in
the spray.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the majority of these fires in California.
That's they're often started by arson. Actually, this is the
interesting thing. And yeah, and I also want to say,
I don't want to give people the wrong impression. There
is good information to to get in the news about it,
but you also have to be careful with everything, right.
Speaker 1: But okay, but what is the NYPD being turned down
or any excuse me, fdn Y being turned down have
anything to do with what's actually happening out there.
Speaker 2: That's Yeah, that's a that's a very weird one.
Speaker 1: That's one or or the other headline that I saw
that says LA just cut seventeen point six million dollars
for the fire budget, and then this and I go,
hang on a second, hold on, I have no idea
what the LA fire budget is and I don't know
what's allocated on what line? Yeah, seventeen point six very
good points.
Speaker 2: It's actually not that much, and there's a lot so
I've actually because all we've seen so much about that
and many people, fortunately with with the benefits of social media,
as we love to sometimes hate on social media's it's
actually been a good community to discuss the truths of that.
So okay, So apparently there was like at one point
there was like a seventeen million budget cut of like
a budget of like eight hundred and seventeen millions.
Speaker 1: That's t percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing was like that was only like
for a time that uh, the budget was going to
be cut, and then they actually ended up giving fifty
million more. The other thing is this whole thing with
Karen Bass being put at the center of it. Okay,
So Karen Bass is the mayor of Los Angeles's and
the thing is there's the Los Angeles city limits where
of the fires in there. The ones that were in
Los Anges City limits were the one in Studio City,
which is really small and was put out, the one
in Hollywood, which I believe also is now put out,
the big ones, the Pasadena, Santa Clarita episode Palisades. None
of those are Angelus Sydney limits. Those are not Karen
Basses areas. They're they're like Board of County supervisors. The
other thing is a lot of is you up? It
says National Forests, So it's it even falls out of county.
It falls into like state parks and national parks. And
so when you read between the lines, you realize that
Karen Bass's actually involvement with this is kind of small.
But you know, it's easy to pin mayor of Los
Angeles if you don't know the actual you know, LA
County and what right, what are incorporated cities and what
falls into this.
Speaker 3: It's like's fault for a fire and fair park exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: That's pretty That's a great example, Kevin, because and I'm
so glad that Aaron said that, because these are the
things that are the headlines that have been really bothering me.
That and the fact that then we're going to focus
on h I keep wanting to say, Kevin Muir, it's
ABC News. David David also Nittan College grad. Oh did
not know that felas my roommate. Congratulations together. He had
a clothes pin holding his fire retardant jacket back right,
So people are saying egos. He wanted to look more
spelt his narcissists, and all I saw was a guy
with no microphone in his hand, which means he has
a lapel mic on and those fire coats are noisy
and it's windy and it's flapping around and why not
pin it?
Speaker 3: But I don't.
Speaker 1: I've never done TV, so I don't know. But I'm like,
why are we focused on this and yelling about this
over what? You know? If you really want to get
sort of political on this, here would be my thing.
And I don't know, I would assume people are saying this.
You mentioned Aaron that there are fires often in Malibu.
Malibu can get some wild winds, really wild winds. There's
also a homeless population that likes to hang out on
the beach and they'll you know, fall asleep with a
cigarette somewhere and the next thing you know, you got
a wildfire. Uh, it's it's a recurring thing. So why
are there still above ground power lines? I grew up
in a really, really very rural area in the eighties,
and even then I was like, why aren't they putting
them underground? We would lose power one time for a week,
you know, So these above line power lines, trees go
down and one of the first things to go over
is going to be probably a telephone pole with a
or a wire pole, right, I mean, because it's there's
nothing there to hold it. I don't even know how
deep in the ground it is. And then on top
of that, once they're down, they could start a fire,
and then how the hell is a fire? So I
can get in there because that's live wires, who's going
in until you can figure out?
Speaker 3: And there's there's a lot of I've seen a lot
of friends out in California that have no power right now.
They're not really, but.
Speaker 2: I've powers going down in my house. It's not been
for long amounts, but I have have witnessed power outages.
Speaker 1: During this fire, Aaron or no.
Speaker 2: Yes, during the fire. Yeah, it was yesterday and the
night before. I had brief periods of power outages. And
it's happened in different areas of different places. Because we
first we're hearing about these, I believe Tuesday, and I
remember some people posting on Tuesday that they had power outages.
And I know some people like like my friend in
the evacuation area for Greater Pasadena area. She says that, yeah,
the power is still out and uh in in her home,
and that that affects because she has this big freezer outside,
uh with all these meats and stuff and all that's gone.
Speaker 3: The other issue I've been seeing coming through is too
is California's pushing for all electric and a lot of
electric cars out there. Hard to evacuate when you.
Speaker 1: Got no power charge car, no no power to charge card.
That that that's a great that's a great point. Now,
I would say, because why why do they want you
to go to an electric car more than than the
fossil fuel? What would be the main reason that they're.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean cutting down carbon emissions.
Speaker 1: There you go, cutting down carbon emission because of global
warming or planetary change. I can't well, it's.
Speaker 3: Pretty warm right now in La Nogrees.
Speaker 1: My point in saying that is whether you're a climate
denier or not, I always think we got to do
what we feel is right by the planet. Right, You've
got to be a good steward of the planet, try
to leave it better than you found it. Are things changing?
It seems that way. There's also a country that doesn't
have an EPA and just built another coal tower while
we're talking, and that would be China. And so you
know all it seems to circulate over time, some of
that air comes here. So I don't know how you're
ever going to put that genie back in the bottle.
But instead of blaming that stuff, why aren't we doing
something to navigate I'll use this example. I don't know,
Aaron how you feel about AI, but I'll often say,
you're never putting that genie back in the bottle, so
you better find a way to adapt it to whatever
you do so it doesn't run you over. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, Well with AI, right, I mean, yeah, that's
the big bit of that, and there's a lot of
a benefits today. I guess, certainly there's some some issues
with it, but I think overall the concept of AI
is a good one, and yeah, we have to we
have to know how to work with it. It's not
going away, we can't, you know, right, So we have
that with every technology. There's certainly people that would love
to be all off of that, but we're not going
back to the Flintstones age. We got to embrace technology
and how to learn how to make the best use
of all.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's sort of the same thing I think
with global warming. Instead of blaming, why don't we find
ways to work around the problems that we're saying are
the fault of that? And I don't think that I
don't think anywhere has really done a good job of that, right.
I mean, we could say what happened in New Orleans
might have been and then they had the engineers go
down and rebuild the walls and that, and that seems
to have saved a city that's below sea level, right,
New Orleans, Right. But California, I've got I was out there.
I'm fifty three, and when I was two years old,
my uncle lived in one of the canyons. He was
a pilot for what was then Western Airlines, and they
had a fire and coming up the back, then up
the canyon. It didn't get as far as his house,
but they were trying to make preparations for it and all.
And I go, boy, that's fifty something years and we're
in a modern age. Why isn't something being done? Is
it too hard to put the wires underground? Is there not?
I mean, is there too much rock there? I don't know.
I don't know any of this stuff. And I would
think that there's got to be smart people, But sometimes
it seems like we focus on the wrong stuff and
then we get these problems.
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of a lot of fighting
clim changes focused on the wrong thing. I mean, look,
I own a plug in hybrid, I have, so I'm
offered those. But as part of the appropriate omniv or blog,
I'm a big advocate of what's known as regenerative agriculture
because this is this is more than just a reductionist
idea of reducing the type of you know of like
fought foods you use, you know, reducing use, but uh,
regenera of agriculture is actually about tending to to the
land better. And a lot of actually forest fires are
due to uh poor stewardship of the grasslands.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, we look, I would think even maybe there's
poor steward stewardship of the forest in Los Angeles or
the boat totally.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, I mean there's there's much of much
waste we done. I mean really, you know, the uh it,
the process of of regenera agriculture would definitely reduce the
forest fires if we uh you know, we do we
have holistic raising and just you know, restoring the wildlife
habitat the use of water. Uh, all of that that
would that definitely needs to be done. And yeah, and
I think you know, the uh the wires may fit
into that too. Because you know in terms of how
you know, having wires above where where you have like
wildlife and stuff is affecting it. So I think that's
certainly what you're what you're playing in effects. Actually, this
is something that I would like to uh explore actually
uh in my podcast. So I think my blog would
be interesting of you know, yeah, like the power lines
affect like a regetative farming do it?
Speaker 1: Because I really wonder with all the look, there's a
lot of smart people out there. You've got a place
called Stanford and there's no idiots even at USC. There's
research costs. Why are we not doing that sort of thing?
And why is there a focus on you know, I'll
keep reading articles or different things like, oh, all they
focus on is the high speed rail. I don't know
if it's needed or not needed. I don't live out there,
so I don't know who's who would use it and
what commute you know what it would who it would benefit?
Let me put it that way, right, You always want
to have some value in something that you're bringing forth.
I don't know, but there's I keep reading that millions
of dollars to go into that. Well, why do not
take that money? And clean up the forest or put
these wires underground, and maybe we can reduce the fires.
You're never going to get rid of them, but maybe
you can reduce them.
Speaker 2: Reduce, right exactly. Any have the high speed rail. I mean,
I think it's a good thing, but again it's another
reductionist approach. Well you know, uh, don't less people drive
in cars, they'll do the high speed real Well that's great,
but still it's like, where's the focus on the actual
land that we're living on. The dirt, the soil, you know,
everything goes into the earth, not just you know, instead
of you know, a high speed rail is reducing what
we put you know, just the emissions we put into
the earth.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But yeah, when you know, agriculture is very much going
into the ground itself. We're not just you know, stopping
something from going into the road. We're going into it
with with what we do with what we plant there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that probably we would say,
like New York State and California blue versus red in
terms of voting and things. But I always wonder when
these things start to happen and you start to see
maybe the people that you've elected not doing things like this,
and you've lost your home. And now, I mean, look,
I got to think environmentalists are going to be all
over anybody coming back to their own property trying to rebuild.
And you're talking homes that have to be twelve million
bucks along the coast there in Malibu. I mean, oh yeah,
they showed in the New York Post there's one. There's
one house that's still standing. Everything's burnt on the left,
everything's burnt on the right, like an entire row. And
it's just their house. And it happens to be a
guy who was a CEO of waste management. He was
a lawyer and former head of waste management in Houston.
The house is I think he paid nine million, said
that it has a fireproof roof and a stucco exterior,
and he thinks that's that. Plus they went I don't
know how deep I think he said they went fifty
feet into the bedrock with the foundation, with the footers,
and because of earthquakes, so they were trying to make
it with stand with earthquakes. And now it's the only
home standing. But I go, who wants to go visit that?
It's the most depressing, desolate place on the planet, like
I'd be afraid to go. I want to sell it,
but there's nothing around it anymore. There's nothing there. So
and it's cheap, and you've got big back air. Now
put that new pool, I guess, but I'm going anybody
who comes back, Right, you own that property. Maybe you've
had that home in your family for generations, who knows.
I mean, if you get something like that, you want
to hold onto it because that is some prime prime
real estate.
Speaker 3: Well, they said Mel Gibson's house went up while he
was doing Rogan's podcast yesterday.
Speaker 1: I lost it. Oh shit.
Speaker 3: And Paris Hilton's lost hers. But the upside of that
is the recording studios in there too, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Paris Hilton. Also, James Wood lost his home.
Speaker 1: Oh really you see that. But now, if any of
these people go to rebuild, it's a process.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go bungle over to their house in
New York City for a while.
Speaker 1: Well now I'm not saying that. Look, I'm not saying
these people are are basically homeless, right the worst thing
about California. Yes, well, homeless in California and homeless with
a lot of money. Right, They've got they have means
they're not. I don't believe anybody's sleeping on a bench
tonight in some park or camp it out on the beach.
I don't believe that. But maybe. But what I was
going to say is, you know, when you when you
have a house fire, my parents' house burned down, you lose.
It's not the things, because you can replace the things.
It's the non replaceables. It's the pictures, it's the years,
it's the generations, it's it may even just be the
wall where you mark the height of your kid. You
know what I'm saying, till all the way up or
to the grandkids or generations, because if some of those
homes could be generations. Now you go to try to
rebuild something, and I wonder how hard they'll make it
because it's on the coast. Environmentals get get involved, I know,
just putting a deck on your house. Sometimes. I remember
doing one in a neighboring town to where we are
now in New York State, and I needed. I had
them out visiting me daily when I put it. Oh yeah,
do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, like I give you a house rates
because right now, I mean, unfortunately, I'm fortunately at my
house not being affected by players because I have some
construction that's that's finally having on my house after so
much back and forth with okay, Department of Building in
Safety that uh oh, I it's crazy, the uh the
hoops I had to go through to uh get this,
getting this this new garage that I'm getting, and also
uh getting this like this purglo put up in the
back of my house and everything in.
Speaker 1: The back of your house, which they've got it. And
how long did it take you?
Speaker 2: Oh it was I was like I think I remember
it was like, uh it's it was like it was
like five months maybe all this stuff sorted with uh yeah,
changing designs to the architecture things, and then it's like
and it's also it's like it's one department after another,
and so it's a thing where yeah, it goes to
one department after another, like another department needs it and
the next department has really like no record of what
the previous one had. So it's like me doing it
all myself. And because the interest thing is my day
job actually is collecting releases for unscript did TV program
so I'm one that does this, okay, And my thought
is like if if I ever, if my process was
ever similar to how the city did that taking take
it like, you know, four months to get like, oh
this appearance released on this person at the ship we did,
I mean, I would be out of a job that
it couldn't work like that.
Speaker 1: No, Aaron, So, Aaron, I'm so happy that you just
that you could relate to this experienceable bunch of ground. No, No,
that isn't what I'm saying that. That isn't what I meant.
But just what Aaron's saying is, there's so much bureaucracy.
You want to cut your budget, cut some of that
shit out. Why do we need all that? The guy's
put up all pergole in his backyard. I remember having
when I put a I bought a house. It had
a what you would call it a solarium. It was
one of those kits glasshouse, right, it was all popping
out plastic. So ripped it down and I wanted to
build an actual structure with a roof. I had to
go through plans, present it to the board, do all this,
and I'm going I thought that was a lot. I
can only imagine what you got to do in La.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean and then I think was yeah,
because this was the garage and the pergola, and because
because we just they just started on the pergle after
doing the garage, and for a second the LA Department
Building and Safety said there was no permit for the
purgleg which like, no, it was there, but that was
just some like this location. Uh, and then we were good.
But yeah, that that was a scare for us.
Speaker 1: And how much does that cost? How much does all
that cost?
Speaker 3: Five months of time? He just said it.
Speaker 2: No, like the what what the price for the permits? Yeah,
I'm trying to remember it's maybe like maybe like a
thousand or so. Y.
Speaker 1: I just say it like it's a pain in the
butt and they charge.
Speaker 2: It in Yeah, I'm crazy.
Speaker 1: And they're taking money and they're slowing down progress and
they're not letting people. And now you've got people with
a ton of money in a blue state that lost
their houses. Let them have to go through this to
try to build back their house, and they're going to
fucking lose their minds. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Yeah, Well, I mean we'll see what, uh,
because in the process, I mean I do wonder though,
I guess I guess you know, sometimes I like to
be a uh a glass half full person because there
are some good things that they require with LA permit,
you know, especially for someone like me who's who's green.
That is interesting when like when I say, for the garage,
I want a you know, I want like a an
electric car charging station, they tell me, well, actually that's
required that you have to have the uh the two
twenty line in there. And you know, new houses they
have to have sword panels. It will be interesting to
see are they going to make new requirements now for
building that are more make it uh safer in the fires?
Speaker 1: That that would be great. And I understand that, and
I'm not saying all the regulations are bad that I
don't mean that. And I'll say this, I also wouldn't
want to live in a neighborhood where anybody could just
throw up any shoddy piece of shit and call it home. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. I am a little bit
for the zone.
Speaker 2: No rule situation. Put up wherever you want.
Speaker 3: But if you got a guy that figured it out,
like you were saying, the waist banishment guy with the
fire insistant roof yest that go, it's like that guy
from the hurricane that had the ratchet strats. We were
talking about him. Yes, yes that works, I means, yes, yes,
that was Why do we not look at these things?
Speaker 1: I do, it works. I don't know. I don't know
why we don't look at it.
Speaker 2: I hope we do. Certainly the city of La I
just attention to that.
Speaker 1: But to hear that it took him four months or
five months just to get the permit to break ground
on a garage. If I'm out of a home, and
then I would say probably for like even this guy
the nine million dollar home, they weren't there, right, that's
their whatever, escape home to go on vacation at or
whatever how. But there are people that that is their
home and has been their home for half a century
or more whatever, and now you got nothing and just
trying to rebuild it and be back on your property
and feel like you've got something again. Uh, it could
take you. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's not an easy I mean, it's it's yeah,
fires here, my buddy's the environment. Yes, typically you have
fire here, it's a year before you even get back
in the house with anything.
Speaker 1: Starting even just getting insurance stuff.
Speaker 3: And just getting it fixed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember how long words from my mom
and dad probably about that.
Speaker 3: It's not as simple. It's not like two weekends. We're no,
so don't make it harder. But then you then you
gotta fight with the insurance company. Well it was the dehumidifier.
Well it was the demive. No, it was the it
was the court of the Demidi fire. No, it was
the it was the connection of the court. That company,
it's their problem. They got to pay for it. It's
a mess.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also because we're focusing on you know, we were
talking a lot about you know, the stars up in
the Palisades, the lesser homes, but like the other is like,
for instance, takes Santa Clarita. I mean that's a great
middle class area for for families.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Sure, and then focus on an area like that. You know,
those aren't celebrities with with your with their New York
or Colorado homes. There a lot you know a lot
of them that is that is their house. You know,
they they worked hard and you know they bought those uh,
those places in Santa Clarita.
Speaker 1: Probably for a million dollars.
Speaker 2: Or right, that's where that's where we get right, because
that that north part of LA has now seen where
where a lot of people are living is more affordable
homes in areas like Santa Clarita Valley and Annelope Valley
and Simi Valley.
Speaker 1: Right and though and and those more affordable homes I
gotta think are a little bit north than one million
for the home. Yes, so you're you're asked for that,
and and you probably don't have the nine million dollar
home in Malibu, right, so that that is your home
and it's gone, and now what and now what? And
that's crazy. And the thing is like when my parents'
house burned down, it was just their house, you know,
going to find out whole street, the whole street. This.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's gone, It's just gone.
Speaker 1: And so where does everybody go? That? That's that's the thing.
I h I really appreciate you coming on here.
Speaker 3: Are they saying anything about what they're gonna have this
under control? They have any ideas? Is what they're what
they're looking at.
Speaker 2: I haven't simplar with that. I mean I I I
think that things are are getting better when I look
at like air quality getting better and the smaller ones
being put out but but yeah, the bigger ones like
the Palisades and they eat and just yet and knowing
people from those areas that it seems like those are
taking more time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think Santa Barber's gotta be.
Speaker 3: It's those people in California putting ketchup on their hot dogs.
Speaker 1: What is the proper way to eat a hot dog?
Speaker 2: Eric, Well, I I like ketchup on it. I've said,
I've said in Cleveland we put ketchup on hot.
Speaker 3: Here as well. Yeah, but you know it's not a
ketchup mustard, little hot sauce.
Speaker 1: Well, I I will say I have become Mustard's a
must for me on a hot dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean mustard is? I mean I and I
will agree with that, you know because people say to me, well,
you know, aarin, the thing is mustard? Is you know, uh,
you want to put your extra things on your catchpod? Sure,
but you have you got to argue that, well, you
should a least start with mustard. And yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: It's got to be friendships.
Speaker 2: I would I say, you got to do I would
say coops mustard, And personally I want a spicy mustard
on there. I'm not a big gun in the yellow.
Yellow is all right, but.
Speaker 1: Yellow is all right. But I like the spicy mustard too.
I would usually go with, uh, there's a Nance's mustard, yes,
from uh Monday, right.
Speaker 3: No, Nance's is Rochester.
Speaker 1: Oh it is Rochester. Day is okay?
Speaker 2: Well I've heard of Nance's. I have to and I
have to if I'm at one of those those food
shows that I go to, I have to keep an.
Speaker 1: Eye for that. Yeah, the really good, Yeah they're delicious.
But I will just tell you this that I once
got yelled at by h when I was married, and
and maybe rightfully so I can't argue with this, but
I didn't realize what I was. I was saying, and uh,
my sister in law is from the Philippines, so her
child is Filipino American because my brother in law is
very American, Irish American. And uh, he the kid put
ketchup and I go, that's an American to do that.
And I got scolded for saying that to the kid
because he's you know, they would go back to the
Philippines and stuff, and I like Cole.
Speaker 3: It's always here with a jokers. Well was it a joke?
I was serious.
Speaker 1: I was serious, put ketchup on a hot at least
don't put it on first unless you live in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't, well I would. I mean, I
don't know if I put on first, but it goes on.
But yeah, you know it's it's one of those debates
you do the Italian sandwiches. You know, there's this debate.
Speaker 3: You do the ring a mustard around the dog. Then
you if you want some relish that goes out a last,
but then the ketchup goes right over the top and
then the relish.
Speaker 1: And then a lot of hot sauce. Kevin's got it down.
Speaker 3: You don't look like me. If you don't know.
Speaker 2: A heated competitions, that would be aaron.
Speaker 1: Before we uh wrap this up, I just want to
go what is your day job? You were saying you
go for?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm a manager of clearances for endem all
Shine North America. We're the company behind so it shows
as Lego Masters and Master Chef Dealer, No Deal Island, Extreme.
Speaker 1: Island. I just saw. I didn't even know that it
was out. I just saw that it's on Peacock second season.
Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, yeah, after the episodes air on NBC,
then we show them on Peacock.
Speaker 1: Okay, And so what is your job?
Speaker 2: So I'm the manager of clearances. So basically it's making
sure that there's releases for everything. So I work a
lot with any kind of third party footage and photos,
making sure that we have that release to obtainning all
the appearance releases for people and photos and the background
of shoots, location permits, and then just any kind of
intellectual property like when we come up with challenge names
and and set designs, making sure that that all of
that is good. I'm essentially a liaison between the production
department and the legal department. I I'm not an attorney,
but I've you know, I just come from a background
working in TV. I looked for a way to advance
and found this, uh this job doing doing that kind
of work. And you know, I certainly anything that comes
outside of of my knowledge, I have attorneys I consult with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you're very detail oriented because those
releases are a huge deal, and if one's missed, you
are open to a lawsuit. And that's that's why it's like,
like you got to sign all these forms if you
ever do a game show there's a ton of those,
and this is what he's talking about, right, that's that
sort of thing right exactly.
Speaker 3: Coming soon though Firefighter Island.
Speaker 1: We don't need j NYPD or f y f n
y D or whatever. Was my father, my grandfather, my father,
my grandfather was a FDNY. Uh but oh yeah in
in the Bronx. So yeah, those are big fires. They're
well trained. I don't even know if they can actually
spare the guys right with just general what happens in
the winter down there. Aaron, it's been a pleasure talking
to you. I really appreciate you giving us your time
on a Friday afternoon for you, it's a Friday evening
for us.
Speaker 3: And the answer for One's got to Go is cheese.
It's this week.
Speaker 1: What's that it's a game.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's I've known for this. Uh, there's that
popular internet meme One's got to Go. And what happened
was I started seeing a bunch of them and saying,
I don't quite like how these are. I would I
would rewrite them out, you know, I'd photoshop them little
to change a couple options. And then then suddenly I
came up with like my own that no one had
done before, and it always seemed to be Friday that
was posting them. So I started this tradition, like oh
five six years ago, called one's gotta go Friday. I
have four items up and you have to say, uh,
what what you want to get rid of? So today
it was crap snack crackers. You want to get rid
of the saltines, the the ritz, the cheese it or
the or the fish or the goldfish crackers.
Speaker 1: I might have to do the goldfish goldfish.
Speaker 3: You can't get all the goldfish. You can't go to
saltines because the soup. You can't get her rid of
rints because of crackers and cheese.
Speaker 1: Right, well, I'm a big cracker.
Speaker 3: I love the pizza goldfish, but.
Speaker 1: I never had the pizza goldfish.
Speaker 2: I mean they're two one of those that's like I
don't really want to eliminate anyone. I don't know to be.
Goldfish are a little gimmicky. It's someone said it's just
kind of like a cheese it but shaped like a
goldfish and cheese and have a little more cheese in them.
So I would choose that between the two.
Speaker 3: I just like goldfish because there's a favor yes.
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 2: Hey, they're not bad that. This isn't one where it's
like where there's one where I say like, oh, you know,
three are great and uh and the other one sucks.
Sometimes they're.
Speaker 1: Liver. Well, Aaron, check out the I wanted to call
it the promiscuous omnivore, and I know that it wasn't
the name of it, and I apologize. I'm so sorry.
What is the name of it?
Speaker 2: It's the appropriate om oh I was the inappropriate omnivoreject.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, the uh, the appropriate omnivore. It's really interesting.
It's just all about food, yes.
Speaker 2: Right, about food from a consumer's point of view. So
I let people know about the best products that are
on the market.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, very good. I really appreciate it.
Stay safe, and I hope the LA doesn't give me
any more headaches with the permits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well for project I'm doing now, it's all been approved,
so good with that and we'll see what the future holds.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, well, thank you again, and Kevin, uh
good connection. Absolutely, I would never believed you knew somebody
in LA. I mean I know a few people, all right,
Aaron Zober. That's how I stay sober when I'm drunk.
I'm sober. I swear.
Speaker 3: Last time he was in Cleveland, he was definitely not sober.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was a Facebook post. I remember what sober?
Speaker 1: Isn't sober Bill either?
Speaker 3: Last time he was there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, probably not, definitely not.
Speaker 3: Top of the rollers, the top of the stadium.
Speaker 1: They're lost. That's so we forgot passed out in the stand.
Said lovely, Aaron, thank you for your time.
Speaker 2: That has been a pleasure.
Speaker 1: We will, uh well, stay safe Los Angeles. I don't
I don't know. I'm I'm confused by all of it.
I'm sure there's many things to be said, but hopefully
we cleared a little bit of it enough. I don't know.
Absolute for Kevin Muir, for Aaron Sober, I'm Bill Moran.
We'll see you Monday.
Speaker 3: Makes