WEBVTT 1 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:22.339 Hello, and welcome back to SideQuest. This is our mostly 2 00:00:22.420 --> 00:00:25.739 usually weekly video game show here at Geekverse. We've been 3 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:28.179 a little inconsistent here in August, but we're back, and 4 00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:30.140 we're going to have a second episode later this week 5 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:32.299 as well. I'm your host, Dylan Moss, and I have 6 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:35.369 with me the isometric Kirkland Patzer. How are you doing tonight, 7 00:00:35.390 --> 00:00:35.729 my friend? 8 00:00:37.369 --> 00:00:40.109 I'm doing good. Yeah, we're getting close to the end 9 00:00:40.130 --> 00:00:42.509 of summer. I'm very much looking forward to the fall, 10 00:00:43.530 --> 00:00:46.570 and we are fast approaching that, but no, I'm good. 11 00:00:47.030 --> 00:00:49.859 I'm good. Yeah, it's been a couple weeks since we've 12 00:00:49.899 --> 00:00:52.789 had a SideQuest episode, as we announced a few weeks ago. 13 00:00:53.189 --> 00:00:55.729 Just kind of reducing the amount of SideQuests we're doing 14 00:00:55.770 --> 00:00:58.490 for the month of August, since we're all kind of busy. 15 00:00:59.469 --> 00:01:01.310 We're not really playing a lot of video games right now. 16 00:01:02.530 --> 00:01:04.659 So instead, we're kind of filling that with other episodes. 17 00:01:04.680 --> 00:01:07.879 But here we are to do coverage of Opening Night Live, 18 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:12.620 which just had its opening night here on the suite 19 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:14.980 August 25th. And then we'll be back later this week 20 00:01:15.219 --> 00:01:18.829 for the GTA coverage episode. GTA of course there's been 21 00:01:18.870 --> 00:01:21.170 all sorts of leaks about what's been happening but there's 22 00:01:21.189 --> 00:01:23.209 an official reveal set for later this week showing off 23 00:01:23.230 --> 00:01:25.530 a bunch of gameplay and other systems and based on 24 00:01:25.579 --> 00:01:27.180 some of these leaks which I haven't watched any of 25 00:01:27.219 --> 00:01:29.680 them but I've just seen bullet point lists of all 26 00:01:29.700 --> 00:01:32.159 the crazy shit that exists in this game I think 27 00:01:32.180 --> 00:01:34.219 that'll be a fun one to break down so me 28 00:01:34.239 --> 00:01:36.980 and Travis will cover that one on Thursday kind of 29 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:39.980 as soon as we can after that show happens so 30 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:41.359 yeah it's fun to be back and then I think 31 00:01:41.379 --> 00:01:43.200 we'll actually be back next week as well to do 32 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:46.000 the updated draft because of course we draft a bunch 33 00:01:46.019 --> 00:01:48.180 of games earlier in the year But then, naturally, a 34 00:01:48.219 --> 00:01:49.969 bunch of things get delayed, such as Ontos, which is 35 00:01:50.030 --> 00:01:52.230 on your list that we'll talk about later. And so 36 00:01:52.269 --> 00:01:55.870 we're here to repick and finish off some new games 37 00:01:55.890 --> 00:01:57.829 that have been announced here to add to our drafts 38 00:01:57.890 --> 00:02:00.510 for the rest of the year. So it should be 39 00:02:00.530 --> 00:02:03.269 a fun kind of trifecta of side quest episodes back 40 00:02:03.290 --> 00:02:06.250 to back here. And we're going to kick it off, though, 41 00:02:06.269 --> 00:02:09.050 before we get into opening night live, with a Patreon 42 00:02:09.069 --> 00:02:12.289 question that I already posed to Travis and Taylor on 43 00:02:12.409 --> 00:02:15.120 previous episodes of SideQuest. But, Kirk, you haven't been on 44 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:16.979 SideQuest in a while, so it's time for you to 45 00:02:17.020 --> 00:02:20.020 answer the very same question. That is from Sam Green. 46 00:02:21.020 --> 00:02:23.719 In more words, asking, what are some games that you 47 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:26.340 wish you could replay again for the first time? So 48 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.419 you wipe your brain, wipe your memory of them, and 49 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.580 have that experience of being able to play a game 50 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:33.969 for the first time again. I feel like this is 51 00:02:34.009 --> 00:02:36.569 one of those classic thought experiments in games, movies, anyone 52 00:02:36.590 --> 00:02:38.610 who's into this kind of stuff. So I'm curious, what 53 00:02:38.650 --> 00:02:40.469 are the first ones? And I just posed this question 54 00:02:40.490 --> 00:02:41.870 to you like five minutes ago, so it really is 55 00:02:41.889 --> 00:02:43.770 just top of your mind kind of stuff. But yeah, 56 00:02:43.789 --> 00:02:45.090 what comes to mind for you? What are some games 57 00:02:45.110 --> 00:02:47.280 you wish you could experience again for the first time? 58 00:02:48.699 --> 00:02:53.719 Yeah, great question. This is definitely a fun thought experiment. 59 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:56.599 Just looking back, especially because we have so much nostalgia 60 00:02:56.620 --> 00:02:59.189 when we look back on video games of like, It 61 00:02:59.229 --> 00:03:01.050 might not even be a good video game, but just 62 00:03:01.110 --> 00:03:03.669 like because of what was out at the time, you know, 63 00:03:03.710 --> 00:03:06.250 like early, let's say like Xbox original, like first time 64 00:03:06.289 --> 00:03:08.389 I played like Halo or something like that, just like 65 00:03:09.129 --> 00:03:12.169 that just felt like the future, even though like, of course, 66 00:03:12.189 --> 00:03:15.349 there's now like Halo campaign evolved, I think is what 67 00:03:15.389 --> 00:03:20.009 it's called, like the new one. But like original Xbox graphics, 68 00:03:20.030 --> 00:03:22.460 like I'm sure that's just so chunky and nasty looking 69 00:03:22.469 --> 00:03:25.680 compared to what we're able to accomplish these days. but 70 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:28.060 no like that would definitely be one that comes to 71 00:03:28.099 --> 00:03:32.319 mind is that original Halo just co-op split screen like 72 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:35.379 just what an experience that was the first time that 73 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:37.120 I played it and that would be so cool just 74 00:03:37.580 --> 00:03:40.120 jumping into the universe of Halo and not knowing absolutely 75 00:03:40.219 --> 00:03:45.080 anything we've never got the Pablo shows we've never got 76 00:03:45.590 --> 00:03:47.310 any like sequential. 77 00:03:46.819 --> 00:03:49.210 So in your mind you're banishing all knowledge of any 78 00:03:49.250 --> 00:03:50.389 Halo which I guess you would have to do if 79 00:03:50.409 --> 00:03:51.949 you're playing the first game again it doesn't really make 80 00:03:52.030 --> 00:03:56.090 sense to have like Halo 2 exist but not Halo 1. 81 00:03:55.289 --> 00:03:58.650 Yeah, absolutely. So like that would just be so interesting, 82 00:03:58.689 --> 00:04:02.590 like digesting the universe while you're going through it for 83 00:04:02.610 --> 00:04:06.289 the first time. I don't know if digesting was the 84 00:04:06.310 --> 00:04:07.270 right way to say that, but I'm just going to 85 00:04:07.289 --> 00:04:09.449 roll with it because it sounded nice in my mind. 86 00:04:09.789 --> 00:04:14.810 But yeah, just consuming the world that is Halo on 87 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:17.259 your first playthrough. Like that would just be so cool 88 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.360 to experience. Of course, yeah, not having any prior knowledge 89 00:04:21.620 --> 00:04:23.439 to like what's going to be coming down the line. 90 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:25.660 So yeah. I think that could be a really, really 91 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:30.180 cool one. Knights of the Old Republic, for sure. If 92 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:31.800 you pose this question to Travis, I'm sure he said 93 00:04:31.819 --> 00:04:32.120 that one. 94 00:04:32.139 --> 00:04:34.180 I think he did say that, and I think Taylor 95 00:04:34.220 --> 00:04:37.370 said Halo Reach specifically, but he might have also mentioned 96 00:04:37.379 --> 00:04:39.589 Halo 1 as well. 97 00:04:39.610 --> 00:04:43.509 Yeah, just because the story of that is just so intriguing. 98 00:04:43.910 --> 00:04:45.389 It is a pretty long game, but it has a 99 00:04:45.790 --> 00:04:50.550 really interesting character, whatever you want to call it. And 100 00:04:50.589 --> 00:04:54.160 of course, on another platform, replay if you know what 101 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.360 happens with certain characters like you can't ever forget that 102 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:00.699 information that would be pretty cool to uh to get 103 00:05:00.740 --> 00:05:04.189 that gut punch uh again just for the first time 104 00:05:04.230 --> 00:05:06.990 i think that that'd be a really special one um 105 00:05:07.829 --> 00:05:11.009 i was thinking like something in the elder scrolls vein 106 00:05:11.050 --> 00:05:12.790 just because like it is so near and dear to 107 00:05:12.829 --> 00:05:15.389 my heart um yeah what would you pick for that 108 00:05:15.449 --> 00:05:17.759 one i know right like that that is the question 109 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.560 i've only like played through completely skyrim um. 110 00:05:24.209 --> 00:05:26.069 Oblivion makes a lot of sense because it has that 111 00:05:26.209 --> 00:05:28.439 remaster remaster that just came out and like so that 112 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:29.120 could i would. 113 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.240 Probably because i would be what i go with actually i'd. 114 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:34.139 Be fearful of morrowind and how if i wouldn't if 115 00:05:34.180 --> 00:05:36.079 it wouldn't hit the same for me as i'm older 116 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:37.180 now you know and it's. 117 00:05:37.290 --> 00:05:39.449 A very that's a really good point that's a really 118 00:05:39.470 --> 00:05:42.490 good point like oblivion although i haven't like like fit 119 00:05:42.529 --> 00:05:44.750 like myself played through it and rolled credits on it 120 00:05:44.829 --> 00:05:46.750 i at least like know the story like i i've 121 00:05:46.769 --> 00:05:50.990 like i've gone so uh just deep dove into the 122 00:05:51.050 --> 00:05:53.230 lore of just elder scrolls across the board so i 123 00:05:53.269 --> 00:05:55.870 feel like really up to like even morrowind just just 124 00:05:55.949 --> 00:05:58.339 all of that stuff like i feel like pretty knowledgeable 125 00:05:58.360 --> 00:05:59.899 of that stuff so that would be pretty cool actually 126 00:05:59.920 --> 00:06:02.259 jumping into the world of oblivion and again not knowing 127 00:06:02.459 --> 00:06:06.720 anything not knowing about tyver septum or or any of 128 00:06:06.779 --> 00:06:09.329 the nine divine whatever like like all of that would 129 00:06:09.350 --> 00:06:12.149 be really really cool just um because those games have 130 00:06:12.189 --> 00:06:15.189 such great just lore and world building to them and 131 00:06:15.209 --> 00:06:17.670 to just again be just consuming that on a first 132 00:06:17.689 --> 00:06:20.149 go around would be really special again and my last 133 00:06:20.209 --> 00:06:22.350 one i'll show here and again there's probably if i 134 00:06:22.410 --> 00:06:23.990 really stew on this like i probably think of like 135 00:06:24.209 --> 00:06:26.480 endless amounts but just for the the sake of keeping 136 00:06:26.500 --> 00:06:30.300 this episode a manageable length uh my last one to 137 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:32.459 shout out is going to be definitely one of a 138 00:06:32.519 --> 00:06:37.040 more recent games i'm going elden ring here um man 139 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:40.970 i yeah so i i've I'm the Elden Lord. I've 140 00:06:41.009 --> 00:06:45.829 completed that game. That was a big gem or trophy, 141 00:06:45.860 --> 00:06:47.939 I guess I could call it, on my gaming career. 142 00:06:48.019 --> 00:06:51.139 The first Souls game, I've... Actually, no, I beat Dark 143 00:06:51.180 --> 00:06:54.680 Souls once. So I guess second Souls game that I've accomplished. 144 00:06:54.699 --> 00:06:56.779 I do want to play more of those, especially the 145 00:06:56.819 --> 00:06:59.439 FromSoftware titles, like Sekiro, I think, is the next one 146 00:06:59.459 --> 00:07:03.199 that I really want to try. But I just got 147 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:05.279 so obsessed with Elden Ring, as I got deep into 148 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:08.680 that game, where I just was... online, like, researching all 149 00:07:08.709 --> 00:07:12.279 these things and just, like, really getting better at the 150 00:07:12.300 --> 00:07:16.160 min-maxing aspect of... Like, now, if I... I feel like 151 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.779 I kind of know where a lot of things are 152 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:21.379 in that game, but to just be jumping into it 153 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:24.360 for the first time, I mean, like, that didn't happen 154 00:07:24.379 --> 00:07:26.139 that long ago. Like, within the last couple of years 155 00:07:26.399 --> 00:07:29.000 was the first time I jumped into Elden Ring. But still, like, 156 00:07:29.050 --> 00:07:35.009 it's just such a special world. And just thinking back on, like... 157 00:07:35.420 --> 00:07:37.120 I don't know, like, let's say the first time you 158 00:07:37.139 --> 00:07:42.060 get to the Altus Plateau, I believe it's called. Like, 159 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:45.040 when you first get past, like, Rey Lucario area, getting to, like, 160 00:07:45.060 --> 00:07:49.310 the actual capital, like, Leyndell City, and as you're going 161 00:07:49.350 --> 00:07:51.970 up these stairs, this just, like, giant dragon thing just, like, 162 00:07:51.990 --> 00:07:54.470 comes down, and it just, like, scared the absolute shit 163 00:07:54.490 --> 00:07:57.750 out of me, because I'm just, like, walking slowly, you know, like, 164 00:07:57.790 --> 00:08:00.889 just taking in the beauty of what the world is, 165 00:08:00.910 --> 00:08:02.810 and then something like that happens, and that game has 166 00:08:02.889 --> 00:08:07.180 so many moments like that, where again, on another run-through. Like, 167 00:08:07.220 --> 00:08:10.019 I know that's coming, but, like, to just be completely 168 00:08:10.139 --> 00:08:14.300 oblivious to that is... It's definitely a special experience. So 169 00:08:14.939 --> 00:08:16.420 that one would have to go on that list because 170 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:20.420 it is such a special game. And, yeah, but I 171 00:08:20.459 --> 00:08:22.560 think those would be the ones I shout out. 172 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:27.819 Yeah. Those are some great picks. I mean, I feel 173 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:29.560 like it's very telling that two of those have got 174 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.480 remasters recently. I feel like, you know, even the teams 175 00:08:33.500 --> 00:08:35.690 have been like, hey... these are games that people want 176 00:08:35.710 --> 00:08:37.559 to experience again for the first time. What's the best 177 00:08:37.580 --> 00:08:39.580 way we can do that? And like also modernize it 178 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:42.320 so that new players can have that experience or like 179 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.559 a similar experience to people who played it when like 180 00:08:44.580 --> 00:08:47.279 the games first came out in terms of visual fidelity 181 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:49.450 and just, you know, quality of life, all those kinds 182 00:08:49.490 --> 00:08:54.169 of features and whatnot. So yeah, yeah, definitely. Uh, sweet. Okay. 183 00:08:54.210 --> 00:08:56.470 Sam green. Thank you for that. Patreon question that just 184 00:08:56.509 --> 00:08:59.450 kept on giving three episodes worth of good discussion based 185 00:08:59.509 --> 00:09:01.940 on that one. Of course, anytime people can jump on 186 00:09:01.980 --> 00:09:04.529 Patreon and, and send us a question, and we will 187 00:09:04.570 --> 00:09:06.250 discuss it at length. In fact, I'll bring it up 188 00:09:06.289 --> 00:09:08.090 on three separate episodes if that's what it takes for 189 00:09:08.110 --> 00:09:10.529 me to get it to everybody here at this show. 190 00:09:10.549 --> 00:09:12.700 So thank you again for sending that one in. Let's 191 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:16.220 get to opening night live. Of course, as always for 192 00:09:16.259 --> 00:09:19.240 these shows, I don't really want to do the full 193 00:09:19.259 --> 00:09:21.360 breakdown of here's every single thing that was announced, and 194 00:09:21.379 --> 00:09:23.639 we'll mention every game, even if we don't have anything 195 00:09:23.659 --> 00:09:26.240 to say about it. Go to the IGN article for 196 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:27.600 that if that's what you want, if you want to 197 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:30.139 know every single thing that was announced here. Instead, we've 198 00:09:30.250 --> 00:09:32.659 picked out the highlights... And I'd say for me and 199 00:09:32.700 --> 00:09:34.720 Kirkland here, I think what we really did for highlights 200 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:36.940 is picked out things that are kind of new announcements. 201 00:09:36.960 --> 00:09:38.220 You know, there's a lot of games here that we've 202 00:09:38.259 --> 00:09:40.679 known about for years and they got cool new trailers, 203 00:09:41.100 --> 00:09:42.759 but I don't feel like there's a ton to really 204 00:09:42.779 --> 00:09:45.759 break down with some of these. A couple of them 205 00:09:45.779 --> 00:09:48.250 we will bring up again that, you know, are speaking 206 00:09:48.269 --> 00:09:49.909 to us in a bigger way. But for the most part, 207 00:09:49.950 --> 00:09:51.809 this is either games that are getting like a big 208 00:09:51.850 --> 00:09:55.210 new showcase here, a brand new reveal, that kind of stuff. 209 00:09:55.509 --> 00:09:57.590 It was a long show and I wasn't watching it live, 210 00:09:57.629 --> 00:09:59.230 so I definitely skimmed through. So I might be missing 211 00:09:59.250 --> 00:10:00.779 a couple things but again these are the things that 212 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:04.720 stood out to me and kirkland the most and i'm 213 00:10:04.740 --> 00:10:06.179 gonna kick it off with a kind of a one-two 214 00:10:06.259 --> 00:10:08.720 punch here here are two series that have been around 215 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.580 forever and are finally uh getting a tactics version which 216 00:10:12.620 --> 00:10:14.710 i feel like is inevitable it feels like for so 217 00:10:14.730 --> 00:10:17.629 many series these days you know happen like with gears 218 00:10:17.690 --> 00:10:20.809 of war uh why can't I think of other examples 219 00:10:20.850 --> 00:10:22.080 right now? But I feel like, you know, Metal Slug 220 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.159 got it recently, right? It just happens every once in 221 00:10:24.179 --> 00:10:26.740 a while. Eventually you get, you know, Final Fantasy. Eventually 222 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.720 you get your tactics game. And yeah, so then the 223 00:10:30.759 --> 00:10:34.679 two newest ones are Worms Galactic Tactics and Rainbow Six 224 00:10:34.740 --> 00:10:39.500 Tactics as well. So starting with Worms, you mentioned this earlier, 225 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:41.559 like what is your experience with Worms? Because I feel 226 00:10:41.580 --> 00:10:43.980 like that is a series I often forget about, even though, 227 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:45.750 and it's probably because I only have like one touch point. 228 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:47.809 I played, I think it was Armageddon on the DS. 229 00:10:48.610 --> 00:10:50.389 And I played it endlessly. One of my favorite games 230 00:10:50.450 --> 00:10:52.289 as a kid. And then I never really touched the 231 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:54.629 series again and kind of forget about it. It doesn't 232 00:10:54.649 --> 00:10:56.879 get brought up very often. So in a trailer like 233 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:59.539 this happens, and I'm reminded how nostalgic I am for 234 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:02.360 the derpy, phallic-looking worms that. 235 00:11:02.279 --> 00:11:04.440 They have in these games. 236 00:11:04.659 --> 00:11:07.179 I'm all into it. But yeah, what is your experience 237 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:08.500 with the series? And what do you think, as a 238 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:10.559 Tactics fan, what do you think about this kind of 239 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:12.100 new crossover, so to speak? 240 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.220 Yeah, I think this is a really great idea to 241 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:19.000 just keep the worms evolution going i feel like you 242 00:11:19.019 --> 00:11:22.769 can i guess you could keep doing the same thing 243 00:11:22.830 --> 00:11:25.070 over and over and just like different uh i don't 244 00:11:25.090 --> 00:11:29.110 know add different weapons or different yeah just graphical fidelities 245 00:11:29.190 --> 00:11:31.929 to more modern titles but i i don't know if 246 00:11:31.970 --> 00:11:35.820 that's really something that like I don't think that's something 247 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:37.440 that like fans would be really grabbing. I feel like 248 00:11:37.460 --> 00:11:38.539 there have been. 249 00:11:38.259 --> 00:11:40.179 These games still coming out all the time. They're just 250 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:41.860 not really talked about in a big way, but I 251 00:11:41.860 --> 00:11:44.179 think they like worms has never really stopped. I think 252 00:11:44.220 --> 00:11:46.000 it's just like a lower budget thing that doesn't have 253 00:11:46.059 --> 00:11:48.200 as big of a marketing budget. They're just like pump 254 00:11:48.220 --> 00:11:50.639 them out and people play them. But yeah, they're never like, 255 00:11:50.730 --> 00:11:52.610 you know, the big splash kind of thing. They're never 256 00:11:52.649 --> 00:11:55.169 starting to showcase like it did even though it was 257 00:11:55.210 --> 00:11:56.389 technically the pre-show, I guess. 258 00:11:56.710 --> 00:11:59.009 For sure. I feel like though like jumping in the 259 00:11:59.029 --> 00:12:01.610 tactics realm like that that's a really good evolution of 260 00:12:01.750 --> 00:12:03.909 the uh of the franchise in my mind because it 261 00:12:03.990 --> 00:12:07.529 sticks true to what the core gameplay kind of is 262 00:12:07.590 --> 00:12:10.509 but uh you know just more more of a single 263 00:12:10.529 --> 00:12:12.889 player player experience of course you could always play worms 264 00:12:13.169 --> 00:12:16.200 single player in my mind it's always been like uh 265 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:18.940 like a like a pvp game or like with friends 266 00:12:19.019 --> 00:12:20.940 because I think that's the only time I've really played 267 00:12:20.980 --> 00:12:23.629 it was with friends and And I just have some 268 00:12:23.690 --> 00:12:25.429 great memories of going over to a friend's house and 269 00:12:25.450 --> 00:12:29.539 playing it. Me, him, and his brother, all just on 270 00:12:29.580 --> 00:12:31.700 there with our worms. And of course, it's got the 271 00:12:31.740 --> 00:12:35.559 comedy element where they're really derpy. They make really funny 272 00:12:35.620 --> 00:12:41.759 noises and just killing different worms very brutally different ways. 273 00:12:42.580 --> 00:12:46.039 My one good friend, childhood friend, shout out to Quinn. 274 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:49.799 name drop them right here he owned worms 3d on 275 00:12:49.820 --> 00:12:51.679 the game cube and i just thought that was like 276 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:54.159 the craziest thing ever because it turned a 2d game 277 00:12:54.460 --> 00:12:57.899 to worms 3d uh and was it just 3d visuals 278 00:12:57.960 --> 00:12:59.539 or was it actually like in a you could walk 279 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:01.990 around in a 3d space you could walk around in 280 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.070 a 3d space i believe are you it looks like 281 00:13:05.110 --> 00:13:08.049 it based on yeah pictures here you know that was 282 00:13:08.110 --> 00:13:10.750 like that that was like a. 283 00:13:10.730 --> 00:13:13.350 Great this fucking yeah it's crazy. 284 00:13:17.700 --> 00:13:21.840 Worms though man i learned what what the term prod 285 00:13:22.139 --> 00:13:24.919 meant because there's a move in worms where you just 286 00:13:25.019 --> 00:13:28.090 you just poke them with the finger and uh so 287 00:13:28.429 --> 00:13:32.610 yeah those teeth man but like look at that like 288 00:13:32.970 --> 00:13:35.909 3d in that era okay it's on ps2 also yeah 289 00:13:36.830 --> 00:13:41.549 uh yeah that's that's amazing um but yeah great great 290 00:13:41.690 --> 00:13:45.009 franchise and like core to my my childhood memories i'm 291 00:13:45.309 --> 00:13:48.789 I'm not playing Worms these days because that's not what 292 00:13:48.809 --> 00:13:52.509 I'd be playing on my own time. Worms Tactics, probably 293 00:13:52.549 --> 00:13:55.360 not going to really, you know, win me over in 294 00:13:55.379 --> 00:13:58.419 that sense. But I still think it's a really cool idea. 295 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:00.360 And it makes a lot of sense to just, again, 296 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:02.820 evolve the franchise past what it used to be. Yeah. 297 00:14:03.340 --> 00:14:06.240 You know, I like what you said before we go 298 00:14:06.320 --> 00:14:08.820 live here is that, like, this kind of has always 299 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.980 been a tactics series. Obviously not like a grid turn-based 300 00:14:12.019 --> 00:14:14.799 tactics like this new game is. But it has always 301 00:14:14.820 --> 00:14:18.250 been like that, where it's, like, usually, I guess, rather than, like, doing, 302 00:14:18.629 --> 00:14:19.929 maybe some of the other games do this, but the 303 00:14:19.970 --> 00:14:21.649 one I remember, I feel like you just have, like, 304 00:14:21.669 --> 00:14:23.710 a certain amount of time on your turn, and you, like, 305 00:14:23.730 --> 00:14:25.889 can only do so much. You probably do, like, a 306 00:14:25.889 --> 00:14:28.269 little bit of moving, and then choose, like, one attack 307 00:14:28.379 --> 00:14:30.360 option or something like that, whether it is a prod, 308 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.549 whether it's throwing a holy hand grenade, a grenade launch 309 00:14:33.590 --> 00:14:36.009 or a shotgun whatever it is and then you yeah 310 00:14:36.029 --> 00:14:37.450 you can you have like a certain amount of time 311 00:14:37.470 --> 00:14:39.129 to move usually so I don't know if this will 312 00:14:39.169 --> 00:14:41.149 be that or it's probably just gonna be like oh 313 00:14:41.169 --> 00:14:44.690 yeah classic tactics version but I feel like the strategy 314 00:14:44.730 --> 00:14:47.350 part of it and like the items will just transfer 315 00:14:47.409 --> 00:14:48.809 over and as you might I didn't even know there 316 00:14:48.870 --> 00:14:50.490 was like a 3d game that happened at some point 317 00:14:50.529 --> 00:14:53.070 but obviously this game the series has already explored a 318 00:14:53.269 --> 00:14:54.669 3d space and what that can look like for how 319 00:14:54.690 --> 00:14:57.049 these items work and I think it is pretty straightforward 320 00:14:57.090 --> 00:14:59.570 honestly but yeah I think this is really cool I 321 00:14:59.590 --> 00:15:01.549 really like the art style like even just the cutscene 322 00:15:01.580 --> 00:15:04.740 I the CG cutscene that they had, introing it for 323 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:07.379 the trailer. I love it. I like the character. I 324 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.340 like the silliness. It kind of has like a South 325 00:15:09.379 --> 00:15:11.720 Park energy to it, I feel like, as well as worms, 326 00:15:12.220 --> 00:15:14.940 in a sense. And so, yeah, I'm interested in this, especially, 327 00:15:14.960 --> 00:15:17.490 I mean, we're just so spoiled for tactics games at 328 00:15:17.500 --> 00:15:20.429 this point. Like, we've got Fire Emblem coming out in 329 00:15:20.470 --> 00:15:22.809 just a few short weeks. We have the Star Wars 330 00:15:22.870 --> 00:15:25.769 tactics game coming out in like two days. I'm already like, 331 00:15:26.230 --> 00:15:28.190 do I buy one of these, both of these? Like, 332 00:15:29.029 --> 00:15:31.250 I love this kind of game so much. And now, 333 00:15:31.769 --> 00:15:33.629 with Worms. I'm not as much of a Rainbow Six guy, 334 00:15:33.649 --> 00:15:35.230 but with Worms on the horizon too, it's like, oh 335 00:15:35.250 --> 00:15:38.009 my God, playing so many of these. And honestly, in 336 00:15:38.029 --> 00:15:39.629 the last few weeks, I've played so much Into the 337 00:15:39.669 --> 00:15:41.850 Breach again as well. When I was like in Kelowna 338 00:15:41.889 --> 00:15:44.190 and stuff, that was like my one game that I 339 00:15:44.190 --> 00:15:46.990 was kind of playing there. So yeah, I just love 340 00:15:47.009 --> 00:15:48.690 this series so much and it's cool to get a 341 00:15:49.210 --> 00:15:53.370 series that I'm kind of oddly nostalgic for that I 342 00:15:53.389 --> 00:15:55.269 haven't really revisited. This feels like the perfect time for 343 00:15:55.309 --> 00:15:56.750 me to jump back in. So that's coming out next year, 344 00:15:56.820 --> 00:15:58.600 so I'll keep an eye on it for sure. And 345 00:15:58.620 --> 00:16:00.700 then the other one is Rainbow Six Tactics, which, again, 346 00:16:00.740 --> 00:16:02.419 this makes so much sense, right? It's kind of like 347 00:16:02.460 --> 00:16:04.919 when Gears Tactics happened. It's like, yeah, these games are 348 00:16:04.940 --> 00:16:08.620 already so tactical, so positioning-based, taking cover, that kind of stuff. 349 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:12.919 And especially after XCOM, I feel like, took the tactic 350 00:16:12.940 --> 00:16:15.600 genre in, like, a slightly different space, and it made 351 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:18.929 just so much sense for a series like this. So obviously, like, 352 00:16:18.990 --> 00:16:22.250 Gears worked in that translation, and I think Rainbow Six will, like, 353 00:16:22.649 --> 00:16:24.330 just be that and even more, because so much of 354 00:16:24.370 --> 00:16:27.610 that is, like, planning to timings and, like, breaching doors 355 00:16:27.789 --> 00:16:30.210 and moving... in coordination with teammates and stuff. I'm sure 356 00:16:30.230 --> 00:16:32.470 this will be a single player game, but I think 357 00:16:32.529 --> 00:16:36.830 taking Rainbow Six and that multiplayer experience and converting it 358 00:16:36.870 --> 00:16:39.429 down into like a tactics game experience and giving people 359 00:16:39.820 --> 00:16:42.559 that kind of fun planning, but like as a single 360 00:16:42.580 --> 00:16:45.120 player experience is going to work really well. So yeah, 361 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:46.879 this was a pretty cool thing to see as well. 362 00:16:46.899 --> 00:16:48.700 And I feel like Rainbow Six has been a little 363 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.659 bit quiet recently. Like they had the, I think it 364 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:54.860 was called Extraction Rainbow, Rainbow Six Extraction a couple of 365 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:56.769 years ago. Sounds right. And it was okay. It didn't 366 00:16:56.789 --> 00:16:58.299 really like blow me away or anything. And I feel 367 00:16:58.320 --> 00:16:59.940 like this is kind of a fun new way. Not 368 00:16:59.960 --> 00:17:01.980 that this is like an innovative thing because obviously Worms 369 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.319 is doing it too and all these other series. Everything's 370 00:17:04.339 --> 00:17:07.099 getting a tactics game these days. But yeah, I think 371 00:17:07.140 --> 00:17:08.900 this could work pretty well for the series. And I'm 372 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.519 curious to see if it ends up being any good 373 00:17:11.579 --> 00:17:14.000 because I'm sure if it has that same level of 374 00:17:14.140 --> 00:17:15.799 depth and I don't know if it's the same developers 375 00:17:15.859 --> 00:17:18.440 as like the regular Rainbow Six games, I feel like 376 00:17:18.460 --> 00:17:21.150 this could be a really, really, really solid tactics game. 377 00:17:21.230 --> 00:17:23.089 So I don't know. Are you a Rainbow Six guy 378 00:17:23.109 --> 00:17:24.549 at all? Does this one speak to you in any way? 379 00:17:26.190 --> 00:17:29.490 I feel like i'm i feel like yeah i'm a 380 00:17:29.589 --> 00:17:32.109 rainbow six guy i've kind of always been around the 381 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:35.099 series i think i had the original rainbow six game 382 00:17:35.259 --> 00:17:38.799 on the pc uh way way back then and i've 383 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:41.779 kind of just throughout my entire gaming history i feel 384 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:44.940 like i haven't gone like more than five years without 385 00:17:45.099 --> 00:17:47.700 touching a rainbow six title um the last one would 386 00:17:47.740 --> 00:17:52.509 have been probably, uh, not wild lands break point, I 387 00:17:52.529 --> 00:17:54.829 think was the second one that came out and really 388 00:17:54.869 --> 00:17:57.990 solid games. Like honestly, I, they are what they are. 389 00:17:58.109 --> 00:17:59.829 You know, a lot of the time it's like you 390 00:17:59.849 --> 00:18:03.029 just go around the world, like collecting things and just 391 00:18:03.049 --> 00:18:08.460 doing your, you know, tactics taken down, um, whatever you, 392 00:18:08.539 --> 00:18:11.799 whatever you'd call them, uh, encampments and such stuff, stuff 393 00:18:11.819 --> 00:18:14.319 like that. But there's oftentimes I'm just kind of seeking that. 394 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:18.289 I do really like the tactical shooter genre, uh, And yeah, 395 00:18:18.349 --> 00:18:19.430 I had the same thoughts as you. As soon as 396 00:18:19.470 --> 00:18:21.049 I saw this, I'm like, man, why have they not 397 00:18:21.089 --> 00:18:23.809 done this already? This makes total sense. You can basically 398 00:18:23.829 --> 00:18:26.529 just have the exact same, what you would already be doing, 399 00:18:26.549 --> 00:18:32.029 just on a tactics gameplay. And yeah, it totally makes sense. Yeah. 400 00:18:32.390 --> 00:18:36.500 Yeah. Definitely. And then the other thing, so the Rainbow Six, 401 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:39.099