Speaker 1: Seems like the in thing today from a national perspective.
Speaker 1: I guess they're tired of pumping up how good the
Speaker 1: Lions have been, how exciting they've been, how talented and
Speaker 1: deep they are or have been anyway, and how Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell and his coaching staff have almost transformed what has
Speaker 1: taken place in the NFL. It is more common since
Speaker 1: he has jumped on board, it's more common to go
Speaker 1: forward in the NFL. I would argue he affects in
Speaker 1: a trickle down way college football and high school football too,
Speaker 1: from what I witnessed. I don't have the numbers to
Speaker 1: back that up. It just it's a feeling for me.
Speaker 1: But it seems more and more people are getting tired
Speaker 1: of it. More and more people feel like they know
Speaker 1: the Lions better than Dan Campbell knows the Lions. And
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those guys who feel like, well,
Speaker 1: you can never second guess the coach. You know that,
Speaker 1: if you've watched and listened to the show, you know
Speaker 1: that there's been plenty of times where I disagree with
Speaker 1: certain moments, but you have to have a reasoning behind it.
Speaker 1: You also have to understand that what Dan Campbell has
Speaker 1: done with Detroit, and how he has made this team
Speaker 1: believe in one another, shown the confidence in his offense
Speaker 1: when they go forward on fourth down, and shown the
Speaker 1: confidence in his defense in various other moves that well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it is a trickle down effect within
Speaker 1: that organization. They believe in one another. It does make
Speaker 1: an impact for those players. It's not always successful, we
Speaker 1: get that, but when they do go forward on fourth down,
Speaker 1: they are more successful than just about anybody else. We've
Speaker 1: given the numbers that more teams go for it on
Speaker 1: fourth down than Detroit. It's a misnomer that they go
Speaker 1: for it far too often and that they go for
Speaker 1: it all the time, and that's just not true. But
Speaker 1: they continue with that narrative because it's hard for them
Speaker 1: to actually do some research and recognize, you know what,
Speaker 1: I could be wrong in this sense. There are to
Speaker 1: say that just about every coach is going to make
Speaker 1: at some point during the game where you're going to question.
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody on Monday called this show, or maybe
Speaker 1: they texted the show. Yeah, they texted the show and
Speaker 1: said I knew on the very first play it was
Speaker 1: going to be a problem when they went play action
Speaker 1: the very first play. Remember Buffalo won the coin flip.
Speaker 1: Buffalo deferred. Lions got the ball first before people have
Speaker 1: even found their seat, before some people have even entered
Speaker 1: the building, before they've been able to sit down and
Speaker 1: sip their beer or eat their hot dog. Somebody said
Speaker 1: the very first play of the game, I knew it
Speaker 1: was going to be a problem because Detroit went play action.
Speaker 1: I mean, you heard a caller earlier this morning say,
Speaker 1: you know what the two times they've lost, it's been
Speaker 1: when they've thrown over fifty times. Yes, they threw fifty
Speaker 1: five times against Tampa. They actually ran for one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty yards in that game. Yes, they threw fifty
Speaker 1: nine times against Buffalo, threw for four hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: five yards, and Jared Goff and that offense could not
Speaker 1: be stopped through the air because Buffalo is susceptible. There
Speaker 1: are certain times where you do have to give what
Speaker 1: the defense or take what the defense gives you. Tennessee,
Speaker 1: I mean, Tennessee's really good against the pass, so you're
Speaker 1: going to run against them. Right in this case, Buffalo
Speaker 1: pretty good against the run, pretty stout against the run,
Speaker 1: not very good against the pass. Rams exposed that Lions
Speaker 1: have exposed that it's something that they probably should have done.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the issue. The issue was stopping Josh Allen
Speaker 1: in company. But on top of all that, and we
Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday, the big question mark people had
Speaker 1: for the game was when the game was in the
Speaker 1: third quarter. It was a ten point game, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, ten point game, twelve minutes left. Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: goes for the on side kick. I didn't agree with it,
Speaker 1: but I do understand his line of thinking. Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that I would have done it. The question many people
Speaker 1: need to ask themselves in sports moving forward, and maybe
Speaker 1: this is the way in life. Do you understand why
Speaker 1: they may have done that. I understand it. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have done it. That doesn't make it wrong. You can
Speaker 1: second guess all you want. My hope is that you're
Speaker 1: first guessing more than anything else. It's in television tern
Speaker 1: right when you are watching a game and Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: last night with Joe Buck or Dan Orlovsky, you know,
Speaker 1: with Chris Fowler on the Atlanta game, are they first guessing?
Speaker 1: Are they going to see what's going to happen or
Speaker 1: what they think should happen here or are after the
Speaker 1: play is done. Why it should or should not have
Speaker 1: happened after the play is over is second guessing before
Speaker 1: it's first guessing. That's what you would like, So ask yourself,
Speaker 1: are you first guessing? When the Lions get to within
Speaker 1: ten and Jay Bates is teeing it up? Are you
Speaker 1: saying right here, I would on sidekick or I wouldn't
Speaker 1: on sidekick instead of after the play. The national media
Speaker 1: last week was all over and we ridiculed that national
Speaker 1: mantra all over Dan Campbell for going forward on fourth down.
Speaker 1: No longer should this Lions team have to go forward
Speaker 1: on fourth down. The Lions are good enough to get
Speaker 1: past this stop with the gimmicky stuff anymore. You can
Speaker 1: be better than this, and so on and so forth,
Speaker 1: like they know better than Dan Campbell, like they know
Speaker 1: better than what should be going on. And again, I'm
Speaker 1: not one of those guys who doesn't question coaching. You
Speaker 1: can question Brian Dable all you want. With the New
Speaker 1: York Giants, they've only got two wins, Go ahead and
Speaker 1: do it. This team going into the game against Buffalo,
Speaker 1: they're twelve and one, and you're ridiculing that this guy,
Speaker 1: he doesn't belong on the sidelines. Think about that. For
Speaker 1: a second team's won twelve of its last thirteen games.
Speaker 1: He's got more wins, He's got a better winning percentage,
Speaker 1: not more wins, a better winning percentage than any coach
Speaker 1: in this franchise's history. He's in the discussion for Coach
Speaker 1: of the Year. His team is responding to him. His
Speaker 1: team is not just responding to him and not the
Speaker 1: energy that he provides and the postgame speeches and all
Speaker 1: that other stuff. They're responding to the way he does
Speaker 1: things so much so that they had won eleven games
Speaker 1: in a row, a franchise record, a franchise it's been
Speaker 1: around a while man nineteen thirty four, So they know
Speaker 1: exactly who their coach is. They respect that, they love
Speaker 1: playing for him. Free agents want to come here. There's
Speaker 1: not many negatives associated with Dan Campbell, unless you want
Speaker 1: to nitpick and say he shouldn't have gone forward on
Speaker 1: fourth down because this team was in a bad position.
Speaker 1: Even though they went they converted four or five on
Speaker 1: four thousand and I actually won the game against Green
Speaker 1: Bay because of that fourth down call. Now, because of
Speaker 1: what has taken place against Buffalo and the on side
Speaker 1: kick you have national members of the media like Emmanuel
Speaker 1: Atcho of FS one saying things like this.
Speaker 2: To me, it's no longer aggressive what Dan Campbell is doing.
Speaker 2: It's just as nine. It is crazy, it is reckless,
Speaker 2: it's disrespectful, it's not aggressive. I questioned Dan Campbell's decision
Speaker 2: when he went for it, and it worked. So I'm
Speaker 2: not the one that flip flops based upon the result.
Speaker 2: You scored on offense your last two possessions. The last
Speaker 2: time the Bills got the ball, they were held to.
Speaker 1: A field goal.
Speaker 2: It was a ten point game. If you hold the
Speaker 2: Bills to a field goal again, it's still just a
Speaker 2: two possession game. Now you go get a touchdown. Now
Speaker 2: it's a one possession game. Maybe it's a seven point
Speaker 2: game or six point game with eight or so minutes left.
Speaker 2: I mean, you would scored at will offensively. So to me,
Speaker 2: it was just dumb because you're putting your team in
Speaker 2: a position to lose. He's either smarter than everybody else
Speaker 2: that is currently coaching, calling, and analyzing the game of football,
Speaker 2: or he is making decisions that are dumb. And I
Speaker 2: do not suggest that he is the smartest person walking
Speaker 2: the plane.
Speaker 1: Well, you can have your opinion. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: Detroit was having a hard time stopping Buffalo. Actually, Detroit's
Speaker 1: offense was very good. I don't disregard any of that
Speaker 1: because I said the same thing yesterday. I said it
Speaker 1: in a different way, And I sure didn't say it
Speaker 1: in the sense that it's reckless and disrespectful. How is
Speaker 1: it disrespectful just out of curiosity? Like if you think
Speaker 1: it's crazy, okay, if you think it's reckless, I think
Speaker 1: that's a little much. And to say that he's not
Speaker 1: the smartest person, it's interesting that you know he hasn't
Speaker 1: said or did he say, any of these things while
Speaker 1: Detroit was reeling awf eleven wins in a row, that
Speaker 1: he's not a good coach. Like when you go into
Speaker 1: Houston and you overcome five interceptions by your quarterback? Does
Speaker 1: that make you stupid? Does that make you reckless? Should
Speaker 1: you have not been as aggressive as they were during
Speaker 1: those games? How about all the other games, Like when
Speaker 1: they're down ten to nothing to Minnesota early on in
Speaker 1: a really loud environment and he keeps his team together.
Speaker 1: You think he had to be smart to beat that team.
Speaker 1: You think he had to beat green Bay twice, including
Speaker 1: once at lambeau Field, and he wasn't smart. Suddenly he
Speaker 1: becomes an unintelligent person because he goes for an on
Speaker 1: side kick. How is it disrespectful to either his team
Speaker 1: or the game of football in when Dan Campbell chooses
Speaker 1: a decision like that knowing full well that his defense
Speaker 1: is shorthanded and it has struggled to stop Buffalo. You
Speaker 1: know what the biggest problem for the Lions was on Sunday.
Speaker 1: It wasn't Dan Campbell's decision making. It was stopping josh Ama,
Speaker 1: a guy who throw threw for two touchdowns and ran
Speaker 1: for two more. Point I don't know if it's easily,
Speaker 1: but he's probably gonna win it. He's probably the front runner.
Speaker 1: I mean, I said yesterday, Lamar Jackson has a better
Speaker 1: completion percentage, has thrown more yards and thrown more touchdowns
Speaker 1: and fewer interceptions coming off a five touchdown game. So
Speaker 1: it's a good debate, I mean, both of them. It's
Speaker 1: a really good argument for Jackson and or Allen. I
Speaker 1: think they've separated themselves. But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1: The problem is that we've got members of the national
Speaker 1: medium and I've said this at nauseum. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue to bang this drum. We see twenty four
Speaker 1: hour sports and people have to fill content. So what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do today? I'll tell you what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna get emotional. I'm gonna look at
Speaker 1: the camera and I'm gonna be spitting mad, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to say something that not a lot of people
Speaker 1: have said before, even though last week some people were saying,
Speaker 1: I want to be the first one on this bandwagon.
Speaker 1: Now you're not. Okay, I'm going to start to second
Speaker 1: guest Dan Campbell. A lot of coaches been second guests,
Speaker 1: all right. Hard to believe that you're getting second guest
Speaker 1: to twelve and two. Hard to believe that you're forgetting
Speaker 1: some of the other things that this guy has done
Speaker 1: and this team has done so far this year. I
Speaker 1: didn't see the second guessing after an impressive road win
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Where was the second guessing when they opened
Speaker 1: up a proverbial can on Seattle and did the same
Speaker 1: thing in Dallas, humiliating them time and time again. In fact,
Speaker 1: mighty people at the time said, good for Dan Campbell.
Speaker 1: He's making a statement. He's pushing it. He's still firing
Speaker 1: on all cylinders against Dallas, making Dallas stop them. Let's
Speaker 1: see what you can do about that. Where was the
Speaker 1: second guessing when they came back from ten to nothing
Speaker 1: down at Minnesota, or blowing out Tennessee, or winning at
Speaker 1: Green Bay, always a difficult place to win, coming back
Speaker 1: in the second half and holding Houston scoreless and beating
Speaker 1: the Texans time and time again. We can use examples.
Speaker 1: But suddenly it's the one decision in a loss that's
Speaker 1: gonna suddenly make you go, you know what, this guy
Speaker 1: can't coach. You want to second guess a coach. That's fine.
Speaker 1: That happens all the time, and it should happen right.
Speaker 1: Coaches understand that when they sign their name on the
Speaker 1: dotted line of that contract, when they take over a franchise,
Speaker 1: they understand they are going to get second guests on
Speaker 1: a regular basis. I don't care if you're at the
Speaker 1: collegiate level or the professional level. I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's football, basketball, hockey, whatever, okay, baseball, second guest all
Speaker 1: the time. I ask for consistency more than anything else.
Speaker 1: Don't be jumping on a proverbial bandwagon now, and thinking
Speaker 1: that Dan Campbell isn't smart. Did you think he was
Speaker 1: smart enough to get them to twelve and four and
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game a year ago? Did you think
Speaker 1: they were smart enough to win eleven straight games of
Speaker 1: franchise record this year and lead not only the division
Speaker 1: but the NFC right now if the season ended today,
Speaker 1: Detroit's the one seat. Do you think it's a stupid
Speaker 1: person in charge of fifty three men who are trying
Speaker 1: to fight for their lives every single Sunday and their
Speaker 1: careers and they're going to follow a stupid man. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you played the game. You're the idiot, You're the simpleton.
Speaker 1: You're the one who's just looking for some type of
Speaker 1: extra accolades. So people start playing and talking about it,
Speaker 1: and maybe we fell into that trap. But saying that
Speaker 1: he's not the smartest guy on the planet, why because
Speaker 1: he was a former tight end and because he doesn't
Speaker 1: come out there with all these great sayings. Instead, it's
Speaker 1: more emotion than anything else. You should know better than
Speaker 1: anybody else if this is the case, If you think
Speaker 1: he's not the smartest guy walking the planet, if you
Speaker 1: don't think he's smart enough to be a head coach.
Speaker 1: What does that say about your league? What's it say
Speaker 1: about the National Football League? The dumb guy can lead
Speaker 1: a team to a twelve and two record a year
Speaker 1: after winning the division, making it to the NFC Championship Game,
Speaker 1: having the most expectations of reaching the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: being the number one seed in the NFC through fifteen weeks.
Speaker 1: What does it say about the National Football League that
Speaker 1: a dumb guy can accomplish all that? Where is why
Speaker 1: do you have to be smart?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 1: Why do you have to be a smart football coach?
Speaker 1: You think he just does this with players who are talented.
Speaker 1: There's plenty of tech. Green Bay's got talent, Minnesota's got talent,
Speaker 1: Houston's got talent, and Detroit took care of business against
Speaker 1: all of them under a dumb guy. According to Emmanuel Atchel,
Speaker 1: we could use his last name in a different phrase.
Speaker 1: If you get my point. The phone number on the
Speaker 1: Myron hot line eight six six eight three forty eight
Speaker 1: forty three, listen. I don't say this as a Lions fan.
Speaker 1: It's okay to second guest coaches. It's the whole desire
Speaker 1: to go after a man's character and to call it disrespectful.
Speaker 1: What an idiot who thinks it's disrespectful. It's disrespectful, disrespectful
Speaker 1: to have an onside kick. I'll tell you what's disrespectful.
Speaker 1: The NFL acting like we're idiots. The NFL making it
Speaker 1: one of these situations where you've got to tell the
Speaker 1: other team that it's an onside kick, that you've taken
Speaker 1: the surprise out of the play in the first place
Speaker 1: for crying out loud. That's the reason you're so upset.
Speaker 1: If this happens and you're not telling the other team
Speaker 1: and it works, you're probably going that's a really good call.
Speaker 1: But the NFL has taken all that out. That's what's
Speaker 1: disrespectful to the game of football, not Dan Campbell. Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell's decision may have lost the game, we don't know that,
Speaker 1: but it probably contributed. It happens coaches. It happens all
Speaker 1: the coaches he's played for. At some point they made
Speaker 1: a decision they wish they had back. Dan Campbell doesn't
Speaker 1: say he wished he had it back. Good for him.
Speaker 1: He stands by his convictions and his players stand by him.
Speaker 1: To me, that makes him a pretty smart guy, and
Speaker 1: it makes his players smart. They believe him one another.
Speaker 1: It's a joke that we've got ex athletes out there
Speaker 1: trying to make a name for himself because nobody knows
Speaker 1: who this guy is, and he sits there and wants
Speaker 1: to tell everybody Dan Campbell's not very smart and he
Speaker 1: disrespects the game. You disrespect this business by going off
Speaker 1: on that type of tangent without having the right facts
Speaker 1: in front of you, knowing what this guy has meant
Speaker 1: to this team and the league in general.