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<v Speaker 1>Seems like the in thing today from a national perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they're tired of pumping up how good the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions have been, how exciting they've been, how talented and

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<v Speaker 1>deep they are or have been anyway, and how Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell and his coaching staff have almost transformed what has

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<v Speaker 1>taken place in the NFL. It is more common since

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<v Speaker 1>he has jumped on board, it's more common to go

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<v Speaker 1>forward in the NFL. I would argue he affects in

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<v Speaker 1>a trickle down way college football and high school football too,

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<v Speaker 1>from what I witnessed. I don't have the numbers to

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<v Speaker 1>back that up. It just it's a feeling for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems more and more people are getting tired

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<v Speaker 1>of it. More and more people feel like they know

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions better than Dan Campbell knows the Lions. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not one of those guys who feel like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can never second guess the coach. You know that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've watched and listened to the show, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that there's been plenty of times where I disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>certain moments, but you have to have a reasoning behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>You also have to understand that what Dan Campbell has

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<v Speaker 1>done with Detroit, and how he has made this team

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<v Speaker 1>believe in one another, shown the confidence in his offense

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<v Speaker 1>when they go forward on fourth down, and shown the

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in his defense in various other moves that well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, it is a trickle down effect within

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<v Speaker 1>that organization. They believe in one another. It does make

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<v Speaker 1>an impact for those players. It's not always successful, we

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<v Speaker 1>get that, but when they do go forward on fourth down,

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<v Speaker 1>they are more successful than just about anybody else. We've

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<v Speaker 1>given the numbers that more teams go for it on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down than Detroit. It's a misnomer that they go

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<v Speaker 1>for it far too often and that they go for

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<v Speaker 1>it all the time, and that's just not true. But

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<v Speaker 1>they continue with that narrative because it's hard for them

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<v Speaker 1>to actually do some research and recognize, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong in this sense. There are to

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<v Speaker 1>say that just about every coach is going to make

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<v Speaker 1>at some point during the game where you're going to question.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, somebody on Monday called this show, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they texted the show. Yeah, they texted the show and

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<v Speaker 1>said I knew on the very first play it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a problem when they went play action

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<v Speaker 1>the very first play. Remember Buffalo won the coin flip.

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo deferred. Lions got the ball first before people have

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<v Speaker 1>even found their seat, before some people have even entered

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<v Speaker 1>the building, before they've been able to sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>sip their beer or eat their hot dog. Somebody said

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<v Speaker 1>the very first play of the game, I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be a problem because Detroit went play action.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you heard a caller earlier this morning say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the two times they've lost, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>when they've thrown over fifty times. Yes, they threw fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five times against Tampa. They actually ran for one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty yards in that game. Yes, they threw fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine times against Buffalo, threw for four hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 1>five yards, and Jared Goff and that offense could not

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<v Speaker 1>be stopped through the air because Buffalo is susceptible. There

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<v Speaker 1>are certain times where you do have to give what

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<v Speaker 1>the defense or take what the defense gives you. Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Tennessee's really good against the pass, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to run against them. Right in this case, Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good against the run, pretty stout against the run,

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<v Speaker 1>not very good against the pass. Rams exposed that Lions

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<v Speaker 1>have exposed that it's something that they probably should have done.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't the issue. The issue was stopping Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>in company. But on top of all that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this yesterday, the big question mark people had

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<v Speaker 1>for the game was when the game was in the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter. It was a ten point game, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter, ten point game, twelve minutes left. Dan Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>goes for the on side kick. I didn't agree with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do understand his line of thinking. Doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that I would have done it. The question many people

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<v Speaker 1>need to ask themselves in sports moving forward, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way in life. Do you understand why

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<v Speaker 1>they may have done that. I understand it. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have done it. That doesn't make it wrong. You can

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<v Speaker 1>second guess all you want. My hope is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>first guessing more than anything else. It's in television tern

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<v Speaker 1>right when you are watching a game and Troy Aikman

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<v Speaker 1>last night with Joe Buck or Dan Orlovsky, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris Fowler on the Atlanta game, are they first guessing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they going to see what's going to happen or

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<v Speaker 1>what they think should happen here or are after the

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<v Speaker 1>play is done. Why it should or should not have

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<v Speaker 1>happened after the play is over is second guessing before

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<v Speaker 1>it's first guessing. That's what you would like, So ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>are you first guessing? When the Lions get to within

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<v Speaker 1>ten and Jay Bates is teeing it up? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>saying right here, I would on sidekick or I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>on sidekick instead of after the play. The national media

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<v Speaker 1>last week was all over and we ridiculed that national

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<v Speaker 1>mantra all over Dan Campbell for going forward on fourth down.

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<v Speaker 1>No longer should this Lions team have to go forward

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<v Speaker 1>on fourth down. The Lions are good enough to get

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<v Speaker 1>past this stop with the gimmicky stuff anymore. You can

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<v Speaker 1>be better than this, and so on and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>like they know better than Dan Campbell, like they know

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<v Speaker 1>better than what should be going on. And again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not one of those guys who doesn't question coaching. You

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<v Speaker 1>can question Brian Dable all you want. With the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Giants, they've only got two wins, Go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>do it. This team going into the game against Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 1>they're twelve and one, and you're ridiculing that this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't belong on the sidelines. Think about that. For

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<v Speaker 1>a second team's won twelve of its last thirteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got more wins, He's got a better winning percentage,

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<v Speaker 1>not more wins, a better winning percentage than any coach

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<v Speaker 1>in this franchise's history. He's in the discussion for Coach

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year. His team is responding to him. His

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<v Speaker 1>team is not just responding to him and not the

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<v Speaker 1>energy that he provides and the postgame speeches and all

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<v Speaker 1>that other stuff. They're responding to the way he does

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<v Speaker 1>things so much so that they had won eleven games

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<v Speaker 1>in a row, a franchise record, a franchise it's been

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<v Speaker 1>around a while man nineteen thirty four, So they know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly who their coach is. They respect that, they love

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<v Speaker 1>playing for him. Free agents want to come here. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not many negatives associated with Dan Campbell, unless you want

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<v Speaker 1>to nitpick and say he shouldn't have gone forward on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down because this team was in a bad position.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though they went they converted four or five on

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand and I actually won the game against Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay because of that fourth down call. Now, because of

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<v Speaker 1>what has taken place against Buffalo and the on side

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<v Speaker 1>kick you have national members of the media like Emmanuel

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<v Speaker 1>Atcho of FS one saying things like this.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it's no longer aggressive what Dan Campbell is doing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just as nine. It is crazy, it is reckless,

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<v Speaker 2>it's disrespectful, it's not aggressive. I questioned Dan Campbell's decision

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<v Speaker 2>when he went for it, and it worked. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not the one that flip flops based upon the result.

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<v Speaker 2>You scored on offense your last two possessions. The last

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<v Speaker 2>time the Bills got the ball, they were held to.

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<v Speaker 1>A field goal.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a ten point game. If you hold the

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<v Speaker 2>Bills to a field goal again, it's still just a

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<v Speaker 2>two possession game. Now you go get a touchdown. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it's a one possession game. Maybe it's a seven point

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<v Speaker 2>game or six point game with eight or so minutes left.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you would scored at will offensively. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just dumb because you're putting your team in

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<v Speaker 2>a position to lose. He's either smarter than everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>that is currently coaching, calling, and analyzing the game of football,

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<v Speaker 2>or he is making decisions that are dumb. And I

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<v Speaker 2>do not suggest that he is the smartest person walking

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<v Speaker 2>the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you can have your opinion. There's no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit was having a hard time stopping Buffalo. Actually, Detroit's

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<v Speaker 1>offense was very good. I don't disregard any of that

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<v Speaker 1>because I said the same thing yesterday. I said it

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<v Speaker 1>in a different way, And I sure didn't say it

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense that it's reckless and disrespectful. How is

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<v Speaker 1>it disrespectful just out of curiosity? Like if you think

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, okay, if you think it's reckless, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little much. And to say that he's not

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<v Speaker 1>the smartest person, it's interesting that you know he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>said or did he say, any of these things while

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit was reeling awf eleven wins in a row, that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a good coach. Like when you go into

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<v Speaker 1>Houston and you overcome five interceptions by your quarterback? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that make you stupid? Does that make you reckless? Should

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<v Speaker 1>you have not been as aggressive as they were during

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<v Speaker 1>those games? How about all the other games, Like when

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<v Speaker 1>they're down ten to nothing to Minnesota early on in

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<v Speaker 1>a really loud environment and he keeps his team together.

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<v Speaker 1>You think he had to be smart to beat that team.

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<v Speaker 1>You think he had to beat green Bay twice, including

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<v Speaker 1>once at lambeau Field, and he wasn't smart. Suddenly he

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<v Speaker 1>becomes an unintelligent person because he goes for an on

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<v Speaker 1>side kick. How is it disrespectful to either his team

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<v Speaker 1>or the game of football in when Dan Campbell chooses

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<v Speaker 1>a decision like that knowing full well that his defense

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<v Speaker 1>is shorthanded and it has struggled to stop Buffalo. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what the biggest problem for the Lions was on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't Dan Campbell's decision making. It was stopping josh Ama,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who throw threw for two touchdowns and ran

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<v Speaker 1>for two more. Point I don't know if it's easily,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's probably gonna win it. He's probably the front runner.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I said yesterday, Lamar Jackson has a better

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<v Speaker 1>completion percentage, has thrown more yards and thrown more touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>and fewer interceptions coming off a five touchdown game. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good debate, I mean, both of them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good argument for Jackson and or Allen. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they've separated themselves. But that's neither here nor there.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that we've got members of the national

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<v Speaker 1>medium and I've said this at nauseum. But I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to bang this drum. We see twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hour sports and people have to fill content. So what

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna do today? I'll tell you what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. I'm gonna get emotional. I'm gonna look at

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<v Speaker 1>the camera and I'm gonna be spitting mad, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to say something that not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have said before, even though last week some people were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be the first one on this bandwagon.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're not. Okay, I'm going to start to second

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<v Speaker 1>guest Dan Campbell. A lot of coaches been second guests,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Hard to believe that you're getting second guest

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve and two. Hard to believe that you're forgetting

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other things that this guy has done

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<v Speaker 1>and this team has done so far this year. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see the second guessing after an impressive road win

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<v Speaker 1>in Arizona. Where was the second guessing when they opened

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<v Speaker 1>up a proverbial can on Seattle and did the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing in Dallas, humiliating them time and time again. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>mighty people at the time said, good for Dan Campbell.

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<v Speaker 1>He's making a statement. He's pushing it. He's still firing

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<v Speaker 1>on all cylinders against Dallas, making Dallas stop them. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what you can do about that. Where was the

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<v Speaker 1>second guessing when they came back from ten to nothing

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<v Speaker 1>down at Minnesota, or blowing out Tennessee, or winning at

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay, always a difficult place to win, coming back

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half and holding Houston scoreless and beating

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans time and time again. We can use examples.

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<v Speaker 1>But suddenly it's the one decision in a loss that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna suddenly make you go, you know what, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>can't coach. You want to second guess a coach. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>That happens all the time, and it should happen right.

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<v Speaker 1>Coaches understand that when they sign their name on the

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<v Speaker 1>dotted line of that contract, when they take over a franchise,

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<v Speaker 1>they understand they are going to get second guests on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular basis. I don't care if you're at the

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<v Speaker 1>collegiate level or the professional level. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>it's football, basketball, hockey, whatever, okay, baseball, second guest all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I ask for consistency more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be jumping on a proverbial bandwagon now, and thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that Dan Campbell isn't smart. Did you think he was

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<v Speaker 1>smart enough to get them to twelve and four and

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC Championship Game a year ago? Did you think

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<v Speaker 1>they were smart enough to win eleven straight games of

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<v Speaker 1>but the NFC right now if the season ended today,

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit's the one seat. Do you think it's a stupid

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<v Speaker 1>person in charge of fifty three men who are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fight for their lives every single Sunday and their

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<v Speaker 1>careers and they're going to follow a stupid man. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>you played the game. You're the idiot, You're the simpleton.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the one who's just looking for some type of

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<v Speaker 1>extra accolades. So people start playing and talking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe we fell into that trap. But saying that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the smartest guy on the planet, why because

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<v Speaker 1>he was a former tight end and because he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out there with all these great sayings. Instead, it's

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<v Speaker 1>more emotion than anything else. You should know better than

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else if this is the case, If you think

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the smartest guy walking the planet, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's smart enough to be a head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that say about your league? What's it say

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<v Speaker 1>about the National Football League? The dumb guy can lead

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<v Speaker 1>a team to a twelve and two record a year

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<v Speaker 1>after winning the division, making it to the NFC Championship Game,

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<v Speaker 1>having the most expectations of reaching the Super Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 1>being the number one seed in the NFC through fifteen weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it say about the National Football League that

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<v Speaker 1>a dumb guy can accomplish all that? Where is why

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to be smart?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you have to be a smart football coach?

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<v Speaker 1>You think he just does this with players who are talented.

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<v Speaker 1>There's plenty of tech. Green Bay's got talent, Minnesota's got talent,

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<v Speaker 1>Houston's got talent, and Detroit took care of business against

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<v Speaker 1>all of them under a dumb guy. According to Emmanuel Atchel,

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<v Speaker 1>we could use his last name in a different phrase.

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<v Speaker 1>If you get my point. The phone number on the

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<v Speaker 1>Myron hot line eight six six eight three forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>forty three, listen. I don't say this as a Lions fan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to second guest coaches. It's the whole desire

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<v Speaker 1>to go after a man's character and to call it disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 1>What an idiot who thinks it's disrespectful. It's disrespectful, disrespectful

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<v Speaker 1>to have an onside kick. I'll tell you what's disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL acting like we're idiots. The NFL making it

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<v Speaker 1>one of these situations where you've got to tell the

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<v Speaker 1>other team that it's an onside kick, that you've taken

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<v Speaker 1>the surprise out of the play in the first place

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<v Speaker 1>for crying out loud. That's the reason you're so upset.

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<v Speaker 1>If this happens and you're not telling the other team

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<v Speaker 1>and it works, you're probably going that's a really good call.

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<v Speaker 1>But the NFL has taken all that out. That's what's

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<v Speaker 1>disrespectful to the game of football, not Dan Campbell. Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Campbell's decision may have lost the game, we don't know that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it probably contributed. It happens coaches. It happens all

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches he's played for. At some point they made

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<v Speaker 1>a decision they wish they had back. Dan Campbell doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>say he wished he had it back. Good for him.

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<v Speaker 1>He stands by his convictions and his players stand by him.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, that makes him a pretty smart guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes his players smart. They believe him one another.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a joke that we've got ex athletes out there

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make a name for himself because nobody knows

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<v Speaker 1>who this guy is, and he sits there and wants

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<v Speaker 1>to tell everybody Dan Campbell's not very smart and he

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<v Speaker 1>disrespects the game. You disrespect this business by going off

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<v Speaker 1>on that type of tangent without having the right facts

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you, knowing what this guy has meant

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<v Speaker 1>to this team and the league in general.
