WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:04.120 Four members only. Golf Smarter number three hundred and eighty 2 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:07.040 seven pubblished on June four, twenty thirteen. 3 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:12.240 Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain 4 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:15.880 insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the 5 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:21.920 Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our 6 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:26.800 interview library features hundreds of hours of game improvement conversations 7 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:30.440 like this that are no longer available in any podcast app. 8 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.479 If you want to minimize deceleration of the club, then 9 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:35.320 you're going to have to get busy with your post 10 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:39.439 impact intentions to keep driving that thing through. That's the key. 11 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.039 It's not just over when you strike the ball, You've 12 00:00:42.079 --> 00:00:44.799 got to drive it through. It's a martial arts. I 13 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:48.000 interviewed a champion brick smasher, but he said that the 14 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:50.759 point of acceleration is always well passed the first brick. 15 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.399 If he's chopping eight bricks, he's thinking about way past 16 00:00:54.439 --> 00:00:56.240 the eighth brick all the way down to the ground, 17 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:57.840 like he's going to move his whole body and move 18 00:00:57.920 --> 00:00:59.679 all the way down through all the bricks, and he 19 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.200 has to folks on a point, well beyond. 20 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.280 This is beyond follow through though. 21 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:05.959 Yeah, just all the way to the finish, right, You 22 00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:07.560 got to stick the finish and you got to work 23 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:09.359 it all the way through. And that is what the 24 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:11.079 great ball strikers do. And if you know what to 25 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:12.359 look for, you can see it. 26 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:21.599 Improve your swing from impact backwards with lag Erickson. This 27 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:26.200 is Golf Smarter. Welcome back to Golf Smarter for members only. 28 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:29.079 John, Yes, thanks, it's great to be back. 29 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:33.519 I love when people do that when we haven't done anything. 30 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:38.640 We've been here the whole time. Bifurcation. I brought it 31 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.239 up at the end of the last episode, and I 32 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:45.159 find it a very interesting topic because I truly, yes, 33 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:47.439 we all get to play the courses. We can go 34 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:51.519 play pebble and Tory Pines, and there are public courses 35 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:54.439 that we get to play that we've seen on tour 36 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:59.400 on television and the pros have played. But the PGA 37 00:01:59.599 --> 00:02:03.319 follows the rules as laid down by the USGA and 38 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:04.040 the RNA. 39 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:05.640 The end. 40 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:10.360 Then there are some rules that the USGA says no bifurcation, 41 00:02:10.520 --> 00:02:12.840 but they'll go yes, we're going to institute this rule 42 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:16.280 immediately for the tour, but for everybody else, we're gonna 43 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:20.360 wait four or five years. Okay, so that is bifurcation basically. 44 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:21.039 Yeah. 45 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.560 Really, you know, come on the wedges and the whole 46 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:27.360 putter thing. Wait you wait thirty years, somebody starts winning 47 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.560 with a long putter and you gotta get rid of 48 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:30.400 anchored putters. 49 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:32.159 That's pretty ridiculous, isn't it. 50 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:33.560 It sure seems that way to me. 51 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:38.000 I'm against it, you know, I'm against banning the long putters, 52 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:39.680 even though I don't use long putter and I don't 53 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:42.560 like the long putters. But the fact that it's been 54 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:44.439 around this long for them to just go ahead and 55 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:46.000 say it's banned. 56 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:48.240 Without talking to anybody about it, you're just doing it. 57 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:50.360 Yeah. I mean, the USGA has made a lot of 58 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:54.000 big mistakes over the years. It probably started by allowing 59 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:56.080 metal woods in the first place, because golf was a 60 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:59.120 game of woods and irons. I mean, for the entire 61 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.360 history of the game from the very beginning was woods 62 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:05.039 and irons. So when you talk tradition, woods and irons 63 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.680 right all the way through. And now baseball they're still 64 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:11.400 hitting a wood bat right, leather glove and a leather ball, right. 65 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:13.879 I mean, it hasn't changed that much. Football they still 66 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:17.199 have a leather football, I think, don't they? Yes, you know, 67 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:21.199 cricket still a wooden bat, so you know, nobody's jumping 68 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.199 up and down about that. Are they with baseball using 69 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:24.879 a wooden bat? 70 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:28.879 Well, baseball and on the professional levels pretty much the 71 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.319 only level that is using wooden bats. Everybody else is 72 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:33.080 using metal bats. 73 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:36.360 Yeah, that's right. And Little League right everything. 74 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:38.439 Yeah, And as a matter of fact, the National League 75 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:42.879 is the only league that doesn't have designated hitter. If 76 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.000 you go on all the other leagues, designated here is 77 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:47.120 kind of like the standard thing. But people are like, no, 78 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.360 it ruins the tradition. Oh stop it. But so, how 79 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:55.039 do you feel about hybrids? I mean, in thirty years, 80 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:56.639 the USGA may come out and go, you know what, 81 00:03:57.159 --> 00:03:59.159 hybrids make it too easy to hit out of the rough. 82 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.840 We're going to make them legal. It's like, wait a minute, 83 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:04.680 we've been using these, we were raised on hybrids. 84 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:07.319 Now it's not fair for a kid, for or a 85 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:09.360 kid that was, you know, eight years old, picked up 86 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:11.039 the game and just his dad handed him a long 87 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.400 putter and said, hey, yes, this it's easier, and he 88 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:18.040 learns how to use that. So to take that out 89 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:20.759 of his hand just isn't really fair. It's ridiculous actually, 90 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:22.519 But I would argue that it never should have been 91 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:24.879 legal in the first place. I mean, long putters never 92 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:27.399 should have been allowed in the first place. Metal woods 93 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.000 and the giant frying pans and cavity backs and all 94 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.839 this stuff never should have been allowed in the first place. However, 95 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.399 since they have, you can't just go back all these 96 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.959 years later and then make them illegal. So I'm against that, 97 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:41.480 but I'm against what they did in the first place, 98 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:45.279 if that makes sense. But given be consistent, Yeah, but 99 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:48.839 be consistent because that's tradition. Like I was raised that 100 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:52.360 golf was a game of respect and tradition. Right, you 101 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:55.079 don't cheat, you know, you learn, it's a gentleman's game. 102 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:56.920 You're you know, it's not like other sports, like you're 103 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:58.480 you're polite, you're playing. 104 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.600 There's no coach along referees. 105 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:04.759 Yeah, and that was one of the beauty, the beauty 106 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:06.399 of the game and one of the great virtues of 107 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:08.600 the game, and and brought a lot of great people 108 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.279 to the game. But all that's gone now, you know, 109 00:05:11.319 --> 00:05:14.319 that's gone now because with the gear and the break 110 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:17.079 from tradition has been I can't think of a sport 111 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:22.439 that's been more run over by technology than golf has. 112 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:24.879 I mean, I think it's it's crazy. This game of 113 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:26.879 tradition is no, it's no longer a game of tradition. 114 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:28.920 It hasn't been for quite a while. It's now more, 115 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.759 really more a game of technology. 116 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:33.319 So the PGA Tour should have their own set of rules. 117 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.399 Well, some tour should, I mean, whether it's PGA. I 118 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:38.439 think there should just be a new a new tour 119 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.839 that starts up like a person tour, where you just say, okay, 120 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:44.560 we're our own organization. These are the rules. 121 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.240 Oh you think the TV would buy into that? Yeah, 122 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:50.160 I think I don't. You know, some people love seeing 123 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:52.079 the ball fly three hundred and fifty yards. 124 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.160 But on TV, so you can't see it fly that, 125 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:57.240 you know what I mean, It wouldn't matter. You can't 126 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:58.040 see much on TV. 127 00:05:58.160 --> 00:05:59.800 So oh, look the balls up in the sky. What's 128 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:01.680 I have no idea because they're doing a close up 129 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:02.959 with the ball the whole time. You don't know that 130 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.240 there's a Yeah. When I first started playing, I was 131 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:08.000 blown away. It's like they said, oh, what a beautiful shot, 132 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:09.839 but he hit a way to the right. What is that? 133 00:06:09.879 --> 00:06:11.800 I had no idea that was such a thing as 134 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.319 a draw, you know, and it's like, oh, that's supposed 135 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:15.240 to do that. No. 136 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.240 I mean if you look at other sports, let's say, 137 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.759 other sports of bifurcation is happening, right, I mean look 138 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:24.800 at football, for instance. I mean you've got the Canadian 139 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:28.160 rules football. You've got these different indoor arena you've got 140 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:33.120 in soccer, rugby, rugby, union, rugby league. I mean there's 141 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:37.199 these different versions of you know, how about softball, you know, softball, baseball, 142 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:40.160 you know, there's different There's there's professional women's softball. If 143 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:44.160 there's professional women's softball, there can certainly be professional men's. 144 00:06:44.160 --> 00:06:46.800 Per Simon to her, I think, you know, it doesn't 145 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:48.720 necessarily have to be as big as the PGA tour, 146 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:50.920 but this could be a place where you know, the 147 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.519 real shot makers and the real players like they go 148 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.639 maybe like like a jazz club. Okay, this is a 149 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:57.480 real good the good musicians go down here and they 150 00:06:57.519 --> 00:06:59.639 played out at Smokey's or whatever on you know, Tuesday 151 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.480 nights at midnight or whatever. From you know that sort 152 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:06.160 of thing. I think there's room for a tour like 153 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.800 that where there really more of a ball Striker's Tour 154 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:12.600 because on a tighter course or the rough's higher and 155 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:14.519 you have to hit it straight and this sort of thing. 156 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:17.439 Greens are smaller and all this. It's a different game, right, 157 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.000 and having to shape and curve the ball and work 158 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:23.160 it correctly and position in the right side of the Pharaowah. 159 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:25.360 It's not how many farries you hit, it's about are 160 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:27.199 you hitting it in the correct side of the faraway? 161 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:28.959 You know, that's how good the guys used to be, 162 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:30.560 you know, to be able to hit it which which 163 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.639 side of the pharaoway, not just his swing as hard 164 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:35.279 as you can and figure, okay, half the time the 165 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:36.680 ball is going to land in the faraway and that's 166 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:38.319 kind of Guys are winning on the PGA Tour hitting 167 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:40.800 less than fifty percent of their ferries. That's crazy, that's 168 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:47.279 not that's not professional quality. So by furication is necessary 169 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:51.839 I think for golf to to really hold some kind 170 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:57.360 of traditional value which is lost now. So other sports 171 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.319 again what so interesting? 172 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:02.319 It's interesting topics sports, I mean, other. 173 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:07.519 Sports are all are all, you know, branching off. I 174 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:12.079 mean most other sports have branched off. I mean football's 175 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:12.839 branched off. 176 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:15.439 I mean, well, yeah, and you even have you know, 177 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:18.040 from from the college level to the pro level, there's 178 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:19.720 different rules on a lot of sports. 179 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:21.480 Yeah, a lot of a lot of different rules. So 180 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:25.079 I think it's just a natural progression, and I hope 181 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.160 and I hope that conversations like this and well, obviously 182 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:30.199 more and more people are talking about it. When I 183 00:08:30.240 --> 00:08:33.399 you know, I didn't play golf for thirteen years, so 184 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:34.919 when I left the tour, I didn't want to be 185 00:08:34.960 --> 00:08:36.600 a club pro and sit in the shop and sell 186 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:38.639 socks or whatever. That just wasn't my thing. So I 187 00:08:38.720 --> 00:08:41.720 just went off and did you know, other things. And 188 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:46.519 when I came back to golf, Actually, my wife wanted 189 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.279 to learn how to play golf, and she didn't even know, 190 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:51.120 really I was a golfer. She found some old maggating 191 00:08:51.200 --> 00:08:53.360 clippings or something, you know, and saw, oh, while you 192 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:56.720 were like a champion golfer, and uh, and I we 193 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:58.679 talked about that. She said, oh, I've always wanted to 194 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:00.600 learn how to play golf. So I kind of looked 195 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:01.759 around for a driving range. 196 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:04.200 How did you tuck that away and make it like 197 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:05.960 it's part of your life? 198 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:07.639 I had played in thirteen years, so I mean I 199 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:09.600 had I had, you know, clippings and boxes and stuff 200 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:11.240 like that, but I just I just didn't play. It 201 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:14.120 just wasn't interesting to me to go out and not 202 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:16.360 play as well as I used to. Like, that wasn't 203 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:18.360 something I wanted to do other things. Oh wait, well 204 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:21.480 made you quit the traveling? Oh? 205 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:22.120 Is that what it was? 206 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.519 Yeah, I got tired. I was on the road eight 207 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.720 months of the year for seven years, so it was 208 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.879 a lot of traveling and that's exhausting. Yeah, I just, uh, 209 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:34.919 I when I retired, I had full exemptions and everything. 210 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:36.799 I didn't quit because I wasn't playing well. I just 211 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:40.120 thought there's more to life than just doing this and 212 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:42.320 I wasn't reaching the level. I didn't put good enough 213 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:47.000 really to to win consistently. I was able to win, 214 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.039 you know. I won on the Canadian Tour shot seventeen 215 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.000 ninnder hitting per Simon and blades. Never hit a par 216 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:53.799 five and two. You know, it's not like the guys 217 00:09:53.840 --> 00:09:56.320 are playing par sixty eights now because they hit every 218 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.200 If you're hitting every par five with an iron, that's 219 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.039 it's a par four. Ye Yeah, so it's a par 220 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:01.799 sixty eight. 221 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:03.320 But it's par five for the rest of us. 222 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:05.759 But yeah, but attill level at the pro level. But 223 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.879 I'm seeing when I was playing on the pro level, say, 224 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:11.679 for instance, the week that I won, the par fives 225 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.200 were not necessarily reachable in two. I didn't hit any 226 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.120 of them in two all week. You know, there were 227 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:18.840 three shot holes, so that was actually a par seventy two. 228 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:22.039 I shot four straight rounds in the sixties, you know, 229 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:24.000 and I'm proud of that. I'm proud that I did 230 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.279 that with persimmon and blades. So if a young player 231 00:10:27.720 --> 00:10:30.200 thinks he's a good golfer, let's see that. Let's here's 232 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:31.879 persimmon and blades go ot. Let's see you go shoot 233 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:33.519 seventeen nineer where you can't hit a par five and 234 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.159 two and so can you do it? Well? Can you 235 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:35.720 do it? So? 236 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.200 Then you don't like cavity back blades either. You want 237 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.799 to see blade just blades. 238 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.559 Well at the professional level, Yes, I think that would 239 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:44.919 be better because it's going to be a better test 240 00:10:44.919 --> 00:10:49.120 for the professionals. Again, there's the bifurcation issue. The club 241 00:10:49.120 --> 00:10:52.399 players can that's fine, you know, if eighty year olds 242 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.720 want to propel the ball out farther. But another way, 243 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.480 it is kind of silly, because that's why they have 244 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.320 like the different te's, like the white tea and the 245 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.120 blue te's and the black te's and that sort of thing. 246 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:04.080 So as you get older, you start moving up, right, 247 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:06.039 I mean really you could still hit per Simmon and 248 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.159 just and the the barettis play. 249 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:12.080 It forward that movement that was going on last year 250 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:14.360 and trying to catch some steam and it doesn't seem 251 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:16.720 to be. But that's just so everyone can be able 252 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.360 to TF where you want, as long as you can 253 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.320 get an eight iron, you know, approach shot like the 254 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.440 pros do, you know, make it more like that. 255 00:11:24.639 --> 00:11:27.080 But another thing for the club players is when they 256 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.519 when they do have professional tournaments on their course, the 257 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:31.399 members that are club they don't want to see the 258 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.480 pros come out and shoot sixty two in their golf course, 259 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:35.960 you know, oh gr course. You know, they want to 260 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.480 see the pros, you know, shooting par or maybe a 261 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:41.759 couple under par, a lot of the pro shooting over par, 262 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:43.399 and that gives them pride. A lot of the members 263 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:45.440 at these classical courses, they have a lot of pride 264 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:47.279 in their course and they don't want the pros coming 265 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:49.879 here and just driving their par furs. And hitting wedges 266 00:11:49.879 --> 00:11:52.320 into par fives and on a little sixty five hundred 267 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.840 yard course or something. I mean, it's disrespectful to the 268 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.720 course interest to the members. You know, like this course 269 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:02.320 right out here, beautiful little golf of course. Members don't 270 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:04.200 want to see that. They don't want to so. 271 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:06.159 They want to do it. They don't want to see 272 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:07.120 someone else doing it. 273 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.840 Yeah. But if the player, if the pros are hitting it, 274 00:12:10.440 --> 00:12:13.399 hitting the ball, say two hundred and fifty yards like 275 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.440 they were when the course was designed, it was did 276 00:12:16.480 --> 00:12:18.840 the bunker the placement of the bunkers is based upon 277 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:23.720 two hundred and fifty yard drives, right, and then the 278 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:27.159 course is relevant, it's historically relevant. And another thing is 279 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.679 course records. You know, like a course record that was 280 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:32.919 shot in the sixties where guy was hitting for Simon 281 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.519 and Blades. I mean Rancho Park in Los Angeles is 282 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:38.159 a perfect example that course record. I think it's sixty 283 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.639 two and that was shot in nineteen sixty eight or 284 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:44.279 sixty nine and it still holds to this day. Wow. 285 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:46.759 You know, even against all the modern gear, that really 286 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:49.679 says something. But even if a young player goes out 287 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:52.399 there and shoots sixty one with the modern gear. Yeah, 288 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.799 let's see you do it with the old staff, then 289 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:58.840 which was better? Or what if a kid shoots sixty 290 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:01.720 two with the new stuff? Well, which record is better? 291 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.039 M You know what I mean? Which is better to 292 00:13:04.039 --> 00:13:06.000 do it with persimmon and blades and a blot of 293 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:08.240 or doing it with a ball in a club that 294 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:10.000 hit drives the ball fifty yards farther? 295 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:18.919 How do you compare different eras? And like that conversation 296 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:22.120 in basketball I always find really interesting because the guys 297 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.639 have gotten taller and stronger, but the court's the same, 298 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:26.679 The ball is the same, the height of the rim 299 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:29.919 is the same, and scoring is basically the same. And 300 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.919 even today scoring has not changed dramatically that much with 301 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:38.279 all this new gear. But it's easier to hit with 302 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:44.080 the newer gear when you and I'd love to let's 303 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.759 talk more about Advanced Ballstriking dot com. In your method 304 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:53.799 of teaching, do you teach people when you get someone new, 305 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:57.159 do you stick per simmons and blades in their hands 306 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.519 and say, let's start with this and then once that 307 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:01.159 gets easy, you're going to love the game. 308 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.759 I don't. I don't require my students to hit persimon, 309 00:14:06.360 --> 00:14:08.600 But I explained to them the advantages of doing so. 310 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:12.720 For one, they're heavier as well, and to play them. 311 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:17.360 I mean, for one, there they're heavier and your body's 312 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.360 going to get stronger by swinging them. So all of 313 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:22.080 a sudden, the club that seems really heavy. Six months 314 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:24.519 later you pick up a modern club, you're like, what 315 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:26.559 the heck is this lightweight piece of garbage? You just 316 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.559 want to throw it away, But you can't feel the club. 317 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:31.919 See golf. Golf is a game of feel, and you 318 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.559 can feel a heavier club in your hands. You want 319 00:14:34.559 --> 00:14:37.000 to be able to feel where the club faces throughout 320 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:39.159 your swing at through impact. It's not just a blur 321 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:40.879 down there. You're not just swatting at it. It's not 322 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:45.440 just nothing. So there's that aspect of being able to 323 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.480 feel the club so that you can hit it straighter. Now, 324 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.039 when you have more masks in the head and you 325 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:54.639 start holding shaftles, then you can hit it farther than 326 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:56.720 you would have when you first started hitting per Simon. 327 00:14:57.080 --> 00:14:59.919 And then there's also the aesthetic of persimmon. It's beautiful, 328 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.799 you know, piece of wood down there, they're refinishing and 329 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:05.879 you can work on the personmon yourself. I mean you 330 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:07.960 can drill holes in it, add lead to it. You know, 331 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:12.120 you can do all sorts of modifications, personal modifications. We've 332 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:14.279 got a lot of our students are getting into the 333 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:18.559 art of the craftsmanship of person and restoration and altering 334 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:22.200 their clubs so that they can like the li angles 335 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:26.360 are I play very flat? You know, it's about six 336 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:31.679 degrees flat li angles, And we teach typically a flatter 337 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:33.679 type of a swing because if you swing flatter than 338 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:35.960 the club works more around your body, so that now 339 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.600 when you turn your body towards the target, you're using 340 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.960 your body rather than you're using your body to propel 341 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:43.840 the club rather than lifting it up above your head. 342 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:45.559 And then it's more of an arm throw coming down. 343 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:47.360 You can't really start turning your body and this just 344 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:49.120 comes straight down over the top, you know, and you 345 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:51.799 hit a pole. And the worst place to miss a 346 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:55.360 green typically is long and left over a green, because 347 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.960 that's going to give you a downhill chip that's sloping 348 00:15:58.039 --> 00:16:00.919 left to right. For a right handed player. That's the 349 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:05.159 most golf courses, especially the older courses, that's not the 350 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.120 place to hit it. You're better to miss short right 351 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:10.200 because it's an uphill chip from and it's a right 352 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:13.320 to left chip, which is usually easier for people. So 353 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.639 we want to set up our gear and our swing 354 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:18.320 so that we don't miss long and left, and that 355 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:21.480 the miss, while it might not be pretty, our miss 356 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:23.480 is going to be short and right and not long 357 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:25.799 and left. So we set our gear and our swing 358 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:28.559 up to that end. And what's happened is a lot 359 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:34.559 of the students are improving by leaps and bounds because 360 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:37.600 they're hitting the ball straighter and they're not missing long 361 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:39.000 and left, and they're not coming over the top of 362 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:41.200 the shot, and they're getting better contact. And the main 363 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.480 thing is that they're hitting the ball straighter, and then 364 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:45.440 they get they end up hitting the ball longer because 365 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:50.279 from the drills and exercises that we do, because we're 366 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:56.240 very interested in increasing our flexibility and our muscular strength 367 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:01.639 through training, and over time, the players end up getting 368 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:03.879 much better. I just played with a student yesterday that 369 00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:09.079 was a he was a nineties shooter and he's now 370 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.039 shooting in the mid seventies and this is over about 371 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:15.480 two years and he's hitting per Simon and blades real. 372 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:18.839 So what does that say. It says something good is happening. 373 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:24.279 Mm hmmm. Well, and it sounds like one of the 374 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.799 things that you seem to be a big advocate on 375 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:29.839 without saying it, but strategy, And I think that that 376 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.119 is one of the things. And I think we talked 377 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:34.799 about this, But the way I think about this whole 378 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:37.599 concept of golf Smarter and how I got started with this, 379 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:39.880 is that I really believe that if you have a 380 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:44.359 strong mental game, which you talked you touched upon initially, 381 00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:48.359 if you have a strong mental game and you understand strategy, 382 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:50.640 you can lower your scores a lot faster than if 383 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:52.079 you just work on your swing mechanics. 384 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:54.920 Oh. Absolutely, yeah. Course management in the in the later. 385 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.720 Course management is you know, that's I call it strategy, 386 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.640 but everyone else calls it course management. But you know, 387 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.200 it's it's not hitting your driver on every hole. It's 388 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.079 not on the par five's hitting your three wood on 389 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:08.880 the second shot because you want to get it within 390 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:10.680 thirty yards of the green because you know you're not 391 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:12.880 gonna make it. And then you have a thirty yard 392 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:16.279 shot and you don't practice a thirty yard shot. You know, 393 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:22.440 strategy it seems to be more demanding when you're using 394 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:23.680 per simmons and blades. 395 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:25.880 Right, Yeah, And there's there's just a there's what you 396 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:27.799 want to have the there's a beauty and an art 397 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:30.079 to playing golf, and a lot of that is a strategy. 398 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:31.960 Once you learn the ball striking, we learn how to 399 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:33.960 hit it straight. That's what we teach people how to 400 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:36.519 hit it straight, so that then they can start applying strategy. 401 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:38.640