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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to Pictures Media Radio. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Policy and Rights, the show about the government, policy and

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<v Speaker 1>human rights. All right, welcome back to Policy and right

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<v Speaker 1>here in Depictions Media Radio, I'm your host to Michael Cloggs.

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<v Speaker 1>So in today's report, we're going to here start. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start by looking at reports from CNN, and there's two

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<v Speaker 1>that we want to focus on because Hurricane Debbie is

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<v Speaker 1>bear palling Florida. At this moment, Hurricane Debbie Category one

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<v Speaker 1>storm is nearing landfall with the eyewall moving on shore

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<v Speaker 1>in the Florida Big Ben area. According to National Hurricane

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<v Speaker 1>Center forecasts shows Debbie will slowly transfers over the southeast

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<v Speaker 1>US and dump a potentially catastrophic rainfall over widespread parts

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida, Georgia, south and south of Carolina. More than

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand homes and businesses are already without power

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<v Speaker 1>across Florida as Debbie hurricane force winds winds to begin

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<v Speaker 1>to batter the state. According to Power Outage dot US,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of flights have been canceled and delayed in the region,

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<v Speaker 1>and several school systems have announced temporary closures. So and

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<v Speaker 1>the US Presidential race president or Vice President. Kamila Harris

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for the slip there is expected to announce her

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<v Speaker 1>running mate UH this week and intends to keep her

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<v Speaker 1>so moving forward. The Israelis are claiming some victory as

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<v Speaker 1>they did target and kill a Hamas leader and other

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<v Speaker 1>other details. As we want to focus for a second

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<v Speaker 1>on UH. The prisoner swap between the United States and Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a recorded statement from President Joe Biden about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and there may be some other details about that prisoner

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<v Speaker 1>swap from reported from the BBC SO sixteen people released

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<v Speaker 1>from Russia jails as part of a prisoner swap tasted freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>They were moving scenes at at air base in US

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<v Speaker 1>state of Maryland. Wall Street journal of reported one of

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<v Speaker 1>the freed Americans lifted in a mother's embrace after being

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<v Speaker 1>greeted on the tarmac as US President Joe Biden swapped.

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<v Speaker 1>The swap involved twenty four prisoners from the US, Germany,

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<v Speaker 1>Poland and Slovenia, Norway, Russia and Belarus and deal origin

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<v Speaker 1>origins can be traced in twenty twenty, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>explained from the first hints during the release of a

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<v Speaker 1>US basketball player Brittany Greener, though it's nearly unraveling over

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<v Speaker 1>the death of a Russian dissident, Alexei Navalali as to

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<v Speaker 1>the conclusion when US officials held a breath and crossed

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<v Speaker 1>their fingers until planes touchdown. So Donald Trump had made

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<v Speaker 1>some statements saying that the efforts are laughable and that

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<v Speaker 1>the nicotiators themselves were basically a joke, as he posted

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<v Speaker 1>that on his Truth network, and he also was also

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<v Speaker 1>touting how it would have never happen under his watch

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with, claiming more crooked Joe theories. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>of it is is should such a thing have ever

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<v Speaker 1>become a political ploy in order for the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>and for Donald Trump to attempt to gain votes went

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<v Speaker 1>over the American public. Should should that be allowed? Or

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<v Speaker 1>should we be just simply grateful that someone was able

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<v Speaker 1>to get the job done and get people home. So

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<v Speaker 1>more thoughts. There are some some other thoughts from Vladimir Putin,

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<v Speaker 1>and Putin claiming a win in the prisoner swap, that

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<v Speaker 1>he got exactly what he wanted and he showed how

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<v Speaker 1>he does have power over the Western government. From the

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<v Speaker 1>returning Russians, there was a red carpet reception, a guard

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<v Speaker 1>of honor. There were bouquets of flowers and some hugs

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<v Speaker 1>from President Putin and as he embraced the FSB hitman

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<v Speaker 1>who had been serving a life sentence in Germany for

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<v Speaker 1>assassinating the assassinating Georgia born Uh changing disson it.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Russia also released more prisoners than it received. Why why

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<v Speaker 1>is put In celebrating this is a victory and Russia

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<v Speaker 1>got what they wanted. They got agents back, including a

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<v Speaker 1>man number one on the list. The German authorities had

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<v Speaker 1>initially been unwilling to release a convicted assassin who, according

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<v Speaker 1>to German court, had acted on behalf of the Russian authorities.

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<v Speaker 1>The message to Kriminlin wants to send to his agents'

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<v Speaker 1>spies is if we send you on a mission abroad

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<v Speaker 1>and things go wrong, will find a way to get

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<v Speaker 1>you home. So mister Putin is claiming a victory, which

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<v Speaker 1>other areas such as in Bangladesh in one case, Lebanon,

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<v Speaker 1>Assyria and are also there's some statements about how they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to bring justice to those people from the UN

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<v Speaker 1>Security Council in the Sudan and South Sudan, so there

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<v Speaker 1>will be a joint statement. There also.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good afternoon everyone. Today is the seventy ninth anniversary

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<v Speaker 3>of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, Japan, and a message

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<v Speaker 3>delivered in Hiroshima by his High Representative for Disarmament Affairs

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<v Speaker 3>is Zumi Nakamitsu. The Secretary General said that nuclear weapons

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<v Speaker 3>and the threat of their use are not confined to

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<v Speaker 3>history books. They represent a real and present danger that

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<v Speaker 3>remains with us today. He added that we cannot press

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<v Speaker 3>our luck again and must find new solutions to bring

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<v Speaker 3>disarmament to life. We will never forget the lessons of

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<v Speaker 3>the sixth of August nineteen forty five, the Secretary General said,

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<v Speaker 3>and mis Nakamitsu will also be attending the anniversary of

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<v Speaker 3>the Nagasaki bombing on Thursday and will also deliver a

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<v Speaker 3>message on the Secretary General's behalf there. We issued a

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<v Speaker 3>statement yesterday that said that the Secretary General continues to

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<v Speaker 3>closely follow developments in Bangladesh, including the Chief of Army

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<v Speaker 3>Staff's announcement regarding the resignation of Prime Minister Sheiksina and

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<v Speaker 3>plans for the formation of an interim government. He urges

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<v Speaker 3>calm and restraint by all sides and emphasizes the importance

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<v Speaker 3>of a peaceful, orderly and democratic transition. The Secretary General

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<v Speaker 3>stands in full solidarity with the people of Bangladesh and

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<v Speaker 3>calls for the full respect of their human rights. He

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<v Speaker 3>continues to underscore the need for a full, independent, impartial

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<v Speaker 3>and trans instigation into all acts of violence. Turning to

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<v Speaker 3>the situation in Gaza, the Office for the Coordination of

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<v Speaker 3>Humanitarian Affairs says that ongoing hostilities and repeated evacuation orders

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<v Speaker 3>continue to severely constrain AID operations and deepen the suffering

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<v Speaker 3>that Palestinians are facing. OJA says that our partners monitoring

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<v Speaker 3>population movements in Gaza report that despite the recent evacuation orders,

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<v Speaker 3>many families continue to stay in areas placed under evacuation

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<v Speaker 3>due to high levels of insecurity and the lack of

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<v Speaker 3>safety across Gaza, as well as harsh living conditions in

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<v Speaker 3>displacement sites where there is limited access to aid and

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<v Speaker 3>basic services that are also fatigued by multiple rounds of displacement.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether they move or stay, people in Gaza must be

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<v Speaker 3>able to receive humanitarian assistance. Those who choose to leave

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<v Speaker 3>their homes must be able to do so safely, and

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<v Speaker 3>they must be allowed to return as soon as circumstances allow.

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<v Speaker 3>The World Health Organization reports that mass displacement in Gaza

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<v Speaker 3>as having a grave impact on public health, with overcrowding,

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<v Speaker 3>a lack of proper shelter, and poor water, sanitation and

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<v Speaker 3>hygiene conditions increasing the dangers of communicable diseases. WHO says

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<v Speaker 3>overcrowding is also raising the risk of mass casualties and

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<v Speaker 3>attacks on heavily populated areas. Meanwhile, the agency warns that

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<v Speaker 3>the number of patients in need of medical evacuation outside

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<v Speaker 3>Gaza is expected to increase given the ongoing fighting and

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<v Speaker 3>the shrinking capacity.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the health system.

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<v Speaker 3>WHO continues to call for the establishment of multiple medical

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<v Speaker 3>evacuation quarters out of Gaza to ensure the safe and

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<v Speaker 3>timely passage of patients via all possible routes, including the

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<v Speaker 3>Repha and Caram Shaloam crossings. Meanwhile, OH says that active conflict,

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<v Speaker 3>destroyed roads and infrastructure, access denials, delays, a lack of

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<v Speaker 3>efforts to move AID in Gaza and therefore reach Palestinians

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<v Speaker 3>with the life saving humanity in assistance that they rely on.

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<v Speaker 3>We must be able to deliver to people in need

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<v Speaker 3>wherever they.

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<v Speaker 4>Are in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>Our humanitarian colleagues report that the Karam Shalom crossing was

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<v Speaker 3>closed today due to military operations. This has prevented the

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<v Speaker 3>transport of critical supplies as well as the entry of

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<v Speaker 3>human charian personnel into Gaza. Meanwhile, the Aire West or

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<v Speaker 3>Zikim crossing has been closed since the second of August

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<v Speaker 3>due to maintenance work. Humanitarian supplies have been redirected to

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<v Speaker 3>the Era's crossing. This morning, Security Council members held a

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<v Speaker 3>briefing on the human charian situation in Sudan. This meeting,

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<v Speaker 3>as you know, comes days after the Famine Review Committee

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<v Speaker 3>concluded that famine conditions are present in Zamzam camp close

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<v Speaker 3>to El Fasher, the capital of North Darfur. Dam musurnu

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<v Speaker 3>Ocha's director of Operations and Advocacy told Council members that

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<v Speaker 3>life saving supplies in Port Sudan are ready to be

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<v Speaker 3>loaded and dispatched to Zamsam, including essential medicines, nutritional supplies,

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<v Speaker 4>She added that she added that it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is crucial that the approvals and security assurances needed are

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<v Speaker 3>not delayed. For his part, the world Food Program's Assistant

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<v Speaker 3>Executive Director, Stephanomolo, said that the agency is significantly scaling

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<v Speaker 3>up operations across the country. WFP will prioritize reaching people

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<v Speaker 3>facing emergency and catastrophic levels of hunger, along with those

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<v Speaker 3>who have been internally displaced. Both officials reiterated that the

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<v Speaker 3>conflict must stop and a ceasefire remains the only sustainable

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<v Speaker 3>solution that will prevent this further spread of famine. The

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<v Speaker 3>Special Representative of the Secretary General and Head of the

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<v Speaker 3>UN Mission in Kosovo, Carolinziade, today a voice concern about

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<v Speaker 3>recent developments in Northern Kosovo. The UN Mission noted that

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<v Speaker 3>the developments continue to adversely impact the daily lives and

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<v Speaker 3>socioeconomic rights of affected communities, including the closure of nine

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<v Speaker 3>Post Office of Serbia branches in the Northern Municipalite Northern

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<v Speaker 3>Municipalities by authorities in Pristina. Missiade calls for responsible leadership

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<v Speaker 4>She further reiterated her calls.

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<v Speaker 3>For outstanding issues to be resolved through the EU facilitated

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<v Speaker 3>dialogue and appealed for restraint from taking unilateral action and lastly,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks to Romania. The impasse has been broken. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think I'm referring to contributions. You're absolutely right, Desi deji.

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<v Speaker 3>The nation of Romania has paid its dues in full

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<v Speaker 3>and their check takes us to one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three fully paid up member states. And thank you to

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<v Speaker 3>our friends in Bucharest. And for that you get the

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<v Speaker 3>very first question.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Varhan. Let me ask you some questions steal

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<v Speaker 5>on the OIOS investigation results. We know that the according

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<v Speaker 5>to what I understand, the evidence is sufficient to terminate

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<v Speaker 5>those nine people to say that they might evolve in

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<v Speaker 5>the Hamas attack. I know, I know you cannot. The

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<v Speaker 5>report is confidential, but can you give us like maybe

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<v Speaker 5>one example, like what kind of evidence led to this termination?

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<v Speaker 3>Ultimately, I cannot give you any more precise details than

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<v Speaker 3>what I've provided for you already. The report itself can

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<v Speaker 3>be seen by different countries. I believe some of the

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<v Speaker 3>donors genre are aware now of the contents of that.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is not a public document.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what we have been able to share yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>through the extensive information you saw in the note and

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<v Speaker 3>the questions and answers, is as much as we can provide.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like there's no no case, no examples.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, okay, anyway, I mean the details are in

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<v Speaker 3>the hands of of oyos and some of those who

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<v Speaker 5>I just want to read out the response from the

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli ambassador.

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<v Speaker 4>Are done. Oh, I'm aware of this response, Grace.

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<v Speaker 5>And too late that that's not the part I want

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<v Speaker 5>to ask. He said, and I quote, investigation ignored that

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<v Speaker 5>thousands of agency employees involved in Hamas terrorism and the

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<v Speaker 5>extent of their involvement. Israel has provided the UN with

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<v Speaker 5>precise details of over a hundred on what employees who

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<v Speaker 5>are members of the terrorist organizations Hamas. We didn't hear

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<v Speaker 5>that much. We know that there are nineteen people who's

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<v Speaker 5>under investor, who are under investigation. What about the the

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<v Speaker 5>numbers here thousands of employees, one hundred names.

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<v Speaker 3>What I can tell you is that if we are

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<v Speaker 3>to get precise information, as the ambassador suggested, we will

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<v Speaker 3>any other authorities. If we do not have that, then

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<v Speaker 5>The Israel provided the precise details of over one hundred names?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can tell from what the information we've

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<v Speaker 3>of the information we've received as we receive it. If

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<v Speaker 3>we're not following up on it, that means we do

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, thank you for ahead. Is there any chance, considering

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<v Speaker 6>what's happening in the Middle East of a cease fire

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<v Speaker 6>humanitarian cease fire? Is a Secretary General still pursuing it.

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<v Speaker 3>We are encouraging it amongst all of our parties. We

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<v Speaker 3>continue to pursue discussions on this. As you're aware, are

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<v Speaker 6>That what doesn't, sorry, what's not what's out of control.

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<v Speaker 3>We believe that the longer the crisis in Gaza continues

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<v Speaker 3>and that there's no ceasefire, there's a greater risk for

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<v Speaker 3>and we're pursuing that from all avenues.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, thank you Gabriel.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks Varhun. Does the Secretary of General have any comments

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<v Speaker 7>about Muhammed Unis perhaps returning to Bangladesh to lead an

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<v Speaker 3>Well, on that what I can what I can say, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>hold on just one second. Obviously at this stage, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>are just all parties to seek a broad national consensus

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<v Speaker 8>Statement on behalf of the following members of the Security

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<v Speaker 8>Council as well as incoming members that are state parties

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<v Speaker 8>to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court Denmark, Ecuador, France, Greece, Guyana, Marda, Panama,

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<v Speaker 8>and our own countries, Japan and Switzerland. We thank the

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<v Speaker 8>ICC Prosecutor Mister Karen Khan for the presentation of the

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<v Speaker 8>thirteen ninth Report to the Security Councncil on the straation

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<v Speaker 8>in Dar Rule in accordance with Resolution fifteen ninety three

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<v Speaker 8>a miss the present conflict in Sudam. We also thanked

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<v Speaker 8>his office or its airports to implement its mandate on

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<v Speaker 8>the ground under difficult circumstances. We are gravely concerned about

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<v Speaker 8>the dire humanitarian situation, as well as the numerous reports

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<v Speaker 8>of serious viorations of international humanitarian law and violations and

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<v Speaker 8>abuses of international humanitari human rights law. We insist the

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<v Speaker 8>international law must be upheld all at all times, and

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<v Speaker 8>justice and accountability must be insured for violations all violations.

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<v Speaker 8>As an ongoing conflict in Sudan demonstrates once again, accountability

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<v Speaker 8>for past and present authorities is an essential prerequisite for

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<v Speaker 8>peace and stability in the future. We thus welcome the

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<v Speaker 8>progress achieved by the ICC in the pursuit of accountability

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<v Speaker 8>for past crimes and share the commitment to bring the

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<v Speaker 8>perpetuators of atrocities to justice. In the context of ongoing hostilities,

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<v Speaker 8>we command a continuing investigation into the irrigations of crimes

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<v Speaker 8>committed to Endurhurd since twenty twenty three, prioritizing in particular

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<v Speaker 8>crimes of sexual and gender based violence and crimes against children.

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<v Speaker 8>We welcome the further progress of the trial of Mista

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<v Speaker 8>Arii Muhammad Ari abudurur rahuman. We value the law given

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<v Speaker 8>the trial. We note the current pace of proceedings will

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<v Speaker 8>Notwithstanding the current armed hostilities in Sudan, we commend.

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<v Speaker 9>The efforts by the Prosecutor's office to engage with effect

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<v Speaker 9>the communities in a challenging environment, and we welcome the

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<v Speaker 9>continuing communication with CEOs, women's organizations, victims and witnesses. Outside

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<v Speaker 9>from those who witnessed and suffered from the crimes perpetrated

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<v Speaker 9>the crimes allegedly committed since April twenty twenty three in Darfur.

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<v Speaker 9>This conflict must not become the world's forgotten atrocity. We

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<v Speaker 9>welcome the efforts made by the Sudanese authorities to constructively

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<v Speaker 9>engage and communicate with the Prosecutor's office, including through the

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<v Speaker 9>provisions of visas and executing requests from the office. We

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<v Speaker 9>also take note of the office's first engagement with the

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<v Speaker 9>tribal leadership of Arab communities from Darfur. We hope that

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<v Speaker 9>this positive momentum will be further consolidated to enable the

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<v Speaker 9>Prosecutor's Office to fulfill its investigative and prosecutoral mandate, including

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<v Speaker 9>through the surrender and arrest of fugitives. It is crucial

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<v Speaker 9>to recognize the link between the pain and suffering inflicted

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<v Speaker 9>on our four twenty years ago and the current situation.

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<v Speaker 9>We renew our unwavering commitment to uphold, defend, and promote

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<v Speaker 9>preserve its integrity, undeterred by any threats or measures against

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<v Speaker 9>the Court, its officials, and those cooperating with it. In

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<v Speaker 9>this regard, we continue to comply with our cooperation obligations

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<v Speaker 9>and encourage all member states to fully support the Court

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<v Speaker 9>in carrying out its mandate of insuring justice for the

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<v Speaker 9>victims of the most serious crimes under international law. We

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<v Speaker 9>underlined the important role played by the ICC in maintaining

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<v Speaker 9>international peace and security. In this regard, we are affirm

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<v Speaker 9>our support for the Court as an independence and impartial

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, but anyway, good afternoon on Bangladesh. I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that we expect a formal statement shortly. We're

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<v Speaker 3>watching the situation in the country very closely. We continue

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<v Speaker 3>to call for calm and restraint and to urge all

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<v Speaker 3>parties to respect the right to peaceful assembly and expression.

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<v Speaker 3>We are security forces to protect those out on the

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<v Speaker 3>streets of Dhaka and other cities of Bangladesh. You'll have

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<v Speaker 3>seen that the High Commissioner for Human Rights Wulker Turk,

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<v Speaker 3>issued a statement yesterday in which he called for violence

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<v Speaker 3>in the country to stop. He added that accountability for

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<v Speaker 3>human rights violations, including those for those with superior and

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<v Speaker 3>command responsibility, is crucial. The international community must make it

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<v Speaker 3>clear that at this pivotal time there will be no impunity.

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<v Speaker 3>You'd been asking for a long time about the Office

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<v Speaker 3>and Works Agency. I can tell you the following. The

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<v Speaker 3>Office of Internal Oversight Services has completed its investigation into

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen area staff members of the UN Relief and Works

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<v Speaker 3>Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East UNRAW regarding

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<v Speaker 3>allegations of their involvement in the armed attacks of the

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<v Speaker 3>seventh of October twenty twenty three in Southern Israel. OIOS

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<v Speaker 3>staff members alleged to have been involved in the attacks.

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<v Speaker 3>In one case, no evidence was obtained by OIOS to

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<v Speaker 3>nine other cases the evidence obtained by OIOS was insufficient

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<v Speaker 3>to support the staff member's involvement. With respect to these

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<v Speaker 3>ten cases, appropriate measures will be taken in due course

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<v Speaker 3>in conformity with UNRAW regulations and rules. In respect of

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<v Speaker 3>the remaining nine cases, the evidence obtained by OIOS indicated

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<v Speaker 3>that the UNRAW staff members may have been involved in

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<v Speaker 3>the armed attacks of September. Of the seventh of October

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three, the employment of these individuals will be

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<v Speaker 3>terminated in the interests of the agency. Turning to GAZA,

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<v Speaker 3>the Office for the Coordination of Humansiaran Affairs reports that

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<v Speaker 3>ongoing bombardment and hostilities continue to kill, injure and displace Palestinians,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as damage and destroy the homes and infrastructure

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<v Speaker 3>they rely on. In just the past forty eight hours,

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<v Speaker 3>three schools sheltering displaced people in Gaza City were reportedly hit,

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<v Speaker 3>resulting in dozens of casualties. According to Palestinian Civil Defense,

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<v Speaker 3>partners on the ground are assessing the knees of people

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<v Speaker 3>analysis by the UN Satellite Center Yunisat found that as

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<v Speaker 3>of a month ago, sixty three percent of structures in

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<v Speaker 3>Gaza had been damaged. Yesterday, the Israeli military issued a

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<v Speaker 3>Communis and Northern Rufa to immediately move westward to Almawassi.

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<v Speaker 3>Our partners tracking population movements in Gaza estimate that more

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<v Speaker 3>affected by this evacuation order. We call once again for

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<v Speaker 3>all parties to the conflict to respect their obligations under

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<v Speaker 3>international humanitarian law, including by taking constant care to spare

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<v Speaker 3>circumstances allow. People must be able to receive humanitarian assistance

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<v Speaker 3>whether they move or stay. As the violence continues, the

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<v Speaker 3>humanitarian crisis in Gaza's deepening. OUR partners are now reporting

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<v Speaker 3>a surge in malnutrition levels among children in northern Gaza.

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<v Speaker 4>Last month.

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<v Speaker 3>They noted a three hundred percent increase in July, when

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<v Speaker 3>more than six hundred and fifty cases of acute malnutrition

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<v Speaker 3>were diagnosed, compared to May, when one hundred and.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty five such cases were detected.

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<v Speaker 3>Our humanitarian partners say that nutrition conditions are worsening due

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<v Speaker 3>spreading diseases. For example, acute supplies shortages mean that just

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<v Speaker 3>eight percent of the nearly fifty thousand children whom OUR

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<v Speaker 3>able to receive those supplies last month. Under Secretary General

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<v Speaker 3>Jean Pierre Lacroix concluded his official trip to the Middle

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<v Speaker 3>he met with personnel in the Unit Its Engagement Observer

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<v Speaker 3>In Lebanon, Mister Lacroix visited the un Interim Force in

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<v Speaker 3>important role of UNIFIL in supporting de escalation across the

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<v Speaker 3>Blue Line. Throughout these engagements, he stressed the need for

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<v Speaker 3>all actors to cease fire, recommit to Resolution seventeen oh

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<v Speaker 3>He visited UNIFILS Nakura headquarters and joined peacekeepers on patrol

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<v Speaker 3>and in positions along the Blue Line. They were commended

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<v Speaker 3>for their efforts in a challenging environment. Turning to Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 3>our colleagues from the Office where the Coronation of Humancherian

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<v Speaker 3>Affairs tells us that hostilities continued over the weekend and

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<v Speaker 3>today in frontline regions in the east of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Local authorities reported over seventy civilian casualties, including children, and

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<v Speaker 3>were particularly impacted, with repeated strikes damaging at least five

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<v Speaker 3>local authorities initiated a mandatory evacuation of children in six

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<v Speaker 3>towns and villages in the Dunyatsk region, offering temporary accommodation

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<v Speaker 3>and support to evacuated families. AID organizations, notably in Western Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 4>To the vacuees.

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<v Speaker 3>During the first half of this year, AID workers provided

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<v Speaker 3>people in the Donyatsk region, where AID remains a lifeline

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<v Speaker 3>for devastated communities. Turning to Sudan, our colleagues from the

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<v Speaker 3>Office where the Coordination of Humanchaaran Affairs are warning that

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<v Speaker 3>active conflict and worsening flooding continue to fuel misery across

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<v Speaker 3>people from the Al Salam camp. As you may remember,

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<v Speaker 3>thousand people have been displaced due to heavy rains in

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<v Speaker 3>recent weeks. There are alarming reports that latrines and water

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<v Speaker 3>points are being flooded, increasing the risk of water borne

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<v Speaker 3>diseases at a time when people are already dying from

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<v Speaker 3>hunger and illness. We and our humanitarian partners are trying

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<v Speaker 3>to scale up assistance in these and other hunger hot

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<v Speaker 3>spots in Sudan, but we continue to face major challenges,

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<v Speaker 3>including access constraints, impassable roads, and funding gaps for the

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<v Speaker 3>aid operation. Once again, we call for safe and unimpeded

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<v Speaker 3>humanitarian access, including across borders and battle lines, to stop

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<v Speaker 3>a large scale famine from taking hold. And you will

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<v Speaker 3>have seen a statement we issued over the weekend and

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<v Speaker 3>in which the Secretary General strongly condemned Frieda's attack at

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<v Speaker 3>Ledo Beach in Mogadishu, which resulted in multiple casualties. He

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<v Speaker 3>expressed his condolences to the families of the breaved and

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<v Speaker 3>wished a speedy recovery to the injured. The Secretary General

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<v Speaker 3>said that he is saddened that the people of Somalia

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<v Speaker 3>continue to be victims of such heinous acts of terrorism.

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<v Speaker 3>He reiterated that the UNS stands firmly with the government

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<v Speaker 3>and people of Somalia against terrorism and violent extremism. Turning

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<v Speaker 3>to Haiti, the Office where the Coordination of Humanitian Affairs

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<v Speaker 3>remains concerned about the protection of civilians in the capital

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<v Speaker 3>of Porta Prince and in neighboring towns, as well as

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<v Speaker 3>in the Artebinit department in the north, where violence continues

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<v Speaker 3>to displace families. Despite the volatile contacts, VIEWN and partners

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<v Speaker 3>in Haiti continue to support people in need. Since the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning of March, partners distributed twenty nine point five million

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<v Speaker 3>liters of drinking water to nearly ninety seven thousand displaced

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<v Speaker 3>people across the country, including in Porto Prince and Lorain.

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<v Speaker 3>Partners have also distributed seventeen thousand hygiene kits to nearly

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<v Speaker 3>seventy thousand displaced people living in these areas. Since March,

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<v Speaker 3>the World Food Program has distributed more than one point

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<v Speaker 3>six million hot meals to one hundred and thirty two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand displaced people acquiss Porto prints Over the last two weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>Health Partners reach more than one thousand, three hundred children

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<v Speaker 3>with psychosocial and mental health support activities across display sites

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<v Speaker 3>in port of Pants and provided water and sanitation support.

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<v Speaker 3>The Special Advisor on the Prevention of Genocide, Alice Wairimo Inditu,

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<v Speaker 3>underlined them perative for ensuring full accountability for international crimes

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<v Speaker 3>committed during the nineteen ninety four genocide against the Tutsi

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<v Speaker 3>in Rwanda and the nineteen ninety five Srebernitica genocide. In

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<v Speaker 3>a statement issued by her office today, she referred specifically

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<v Speaker 3>to the more than one thousand fugitive genocideas from Rwanda

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<v Speaker 3>and thousands of suspected war criminals from the former Yugoslavia

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<v Speaker 3>who were still at large despite existing indictments and international

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<v Speaker 3>arrest warrants. She called on states hosting these fugitives to

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<v Speaker 3>take active and immediate steps to ensure that they can

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<v Speaker 3>be brought to justice by prosecuting them before their own

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<v Speaker 3>jurisdictions or by extraditing them to jurisdictions in which they

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<v Speaker 3>can be prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 4>And some good news, the.

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<v Speaker 3>UN Refugee Agency flag that yesterday the refugee athlete Sindi

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<v Speaker 3>and Gamba competing in the women's seventy five kg category

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<v Speaker 3>secure the first ever medal for the Refugee Olympic Team

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<v Speaker 3>in Brazil. In Paris, she triumphed in her quarter final

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<v Speaker 3>bout and guaranteed herself at least a bronze with the

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<v Speaker 3>next bout on Thursday for a potential place in the

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<v Speaker 3>gold medal match.

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<v Speaker 4>But whatever the outcome and whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>The eventual color of her medal, UNHDR said that her

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<v Speaker 3>historic achievement has already sent a powerful message of hope

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<v Speaker 3>to some one hundred and twenty million forcibly displaced people worldwide.

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<v Speaker 3>Bizing Gamba is one of thirty seven athletes competing in

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<v Speaker 3>Paris as part of the Refugee team, which was created

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<v Speaker 3>by the International Olympic KABINI to give displace sportspeople the.

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<v Speaker 4>Chance to compete at the highest level.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, I'm about to sneeze first and then no, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to happen, all right, Bena, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You so much. Fun So on the OIOS investigation, First,

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<v Speaker 2>the technical question in my recollection, the Secretary of General

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<v Speaker 2>terminated the contract ofven or unrout workers already when it

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<v Speaker 2>happened in January. Is that incorrect?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there were, yes, he had taken that immediate action,

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<v Speaker 3>and then there was an additional twelve cases that were

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<v Speaker 3>brought to his attention for nineteen and all. Now we

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<v Speaker 3>have found out of those nineteen that in ten cases

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<v Speaker 3>there's either no information or insufficient information to support the

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<v Speaker 3>allegations of their involvement in the October seventh attacks. The

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<v Speaker 3>nine for whom there is sufficient information will be terminated,

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<v Speaker 3>and that of course includes some who had been terminated earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>as in the immediate aftermath of the others of the reporting.

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<v Speaker 2>The seven from January are included in the nine.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you want to tell me, I think mostly

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<v Speaker 3>included in the nine. It's quite possible that even of

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<v Speaker 3>the initial group of seven, I think some of them

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<v Speaker 3>may have had insufficient information against them.

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<v Speaker 1>And then.

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<v Speaker 2>My actually question is about when you say evidence obtained

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<v Speaker 2>indicates that they were involved in the armed attacks, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we all like to know to what degree, what

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<v Speaker 2>kind of evidence is it, and what do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't have specific information about the specific allegations.

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<v Speaker 3>What I can tell you, and we'll be sharing some

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<v Speaker 3>of this with you after the briefing as well, is

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<v Speaker 3>that the OIOS investigation involved the following visits to Israel

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<v Speaker 3>for discussions with Israeli officials and receive and review information

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<v Speaker 3>held by Israeli authorities.

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<v Speaker 4>Visits to amand to obtain.

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<v Speaker 3>And review information held by UNRA relevant to the investigation,

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<v Speaker 3>including on UNRA staff and on UNRAW operations. Review of

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<v Speaker 3>information and communications technology data, including email records and information

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<v Speaker 3>on UNRA vehicles. Review of information received from various other sources,

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<v Speaker 3>including that release through the media and other public sources.

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<v Speaker 3>And communications with several member states to obtain any additional

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<v Speaker 3>information relevant to the investigation. However, one thing I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to point out is that since information used by Israeli

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<v Speaker 3>officials to support the allegations have remained in Israeli custody,

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<v Speaker 3>OIOS was not able to independently authenticate most of the

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<v Speaker 3>information provided to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry last follow up, With all due respect, I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is not really sufficient given all the million of

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<v Speaker 2>funding for UNROE, when we had a half year long investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the end it says like, yeah, they were

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<v Speaker 2>involved in the attacks, but we don't tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>How we are sharing information with the donors about this,

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<v Speaker 3>And there has been a report that some of the

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<v Speaker 3>donors are getting to review here at headquarters.

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<v Speaker 4>That is a.

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<v Speaker 3>Confidential report, not able to share that with you, but

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<v Speaker 3>the note I just read will be shared as well

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<v Speaker 3>as the information I just provided, and a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more in the interests of transparency.

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<v Speaker 7>Gabriel, thank you for han following up on that you

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<v Speaker 7>said the nine may have been involved in the attacks

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<v Speaker 7>of October seventh? Is that correct or did I miss

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<v Speaker 7>hear you?

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<v Speaker 4>You heard me correct? That is exactly what I've said.

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<v Speaker 7>So what do we make of the fact that you

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<v Speaker 7>say may That means that you do not have conclusive

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<v Speaker 7>evidence they were, but there's enough indicating they might have been.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, it's a word that needs to be clarified

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<v Speaker 7>if you don't mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Well it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is exactly what I would say that again, you

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<v Speaker 3>know we that is to say, OIOS was not able

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<v Speaker 3>to independently authenticate most of the information provided to it

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<v Speaker 3>that was in the hands of Israeli authorities. That was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that is information remains in the custody of Israel.

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond that, regarding those nine cases, the evidence provided in

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<v Speaker 3>support of allegations that the UN staff member was involved

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<v Speaker 3>in the armed attacks of the seventh of October twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three could, if authenticated and corroborated, provide a factual

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<v Speaker 3>basis to conclude that the UNRUSS staff member may have

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<v Speaker 3>engaged in conduct sanctionable under the applicable UNRAUW regulations and rules.

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<v Speaker 3>And those cases, those nine cases have been referred for decision.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, And are those nine people still alive?

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<v Speaker 3>I believe one of the nineteen people is dead. The

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<v Speaker 3>remainder are alive.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, I'll move on from that for a second.

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<v Speaker 7>On Bangladesh. Sorry, let me go back to the OOS

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<v Speaker 7>one more time. I'm sorry. What does his Secretary of

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<v Speaker 7>General feel about these findings? What is his view of it?

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<v Speaker 7>As you it's his personal feelings about what the oios

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<v Speaker 7>he believes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's important that we go through this very carefully, given

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that any involvement in these attacks would constitute

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<v Speaker 3>a major betrayal of trust. Obviously, there were actions that

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<v Speaker 3>were taken for the benefit of the agency that were

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<v Speaker 3>very swift and very decisive in terms of dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>the individuals who had been named at first, and now

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<v Speaker 3>it's good to have all of the information available. I

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<v Speaker 3>do think it's important to bear in mind the huge

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<v Speaker 3>number of unra staff members who have been taking enormous

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<v Speaker 3>risks for months keeping your tens even hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of people alive, whether in shelters or whether by helping

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<v Speaker 3>with the provision of food and services. And we want

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that the reputation of our unrusted staff

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<v Speaker 3>are dedicated staff, including about two hundred people who have

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<v Speaker 3>lost their lives since the seventh of October, is fully

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<v Speaker 3>recognized and that UNRUGG gets the support that it needs.

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<v Speaker 10>Maggie, just continuing on OIOS. First of all, any chance

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<v Speaker 10>OIOS could do a briefing for us, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>this is really opaque and you're you kind of mumbled

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<v Speaker 10>at one point. Confidential. Is this report confidential or is

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<v Speaker 10>it going to be published?

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<v Speaker 3>Or it is confidential it will not be published. Why

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<v Speaker 3>all such reports are confidential?

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<v Speaker 10>Is it because it's a personnel matter?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it for a variety of reasons, including by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, legal reasons having to do with how information

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<v Speaker 3>is obtained and so forth. So OOS investigation reports are

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<v Speaker 3>strictly confidential. The report has been provided directly to the

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<v Speaker 3>Secretary General and will not be made public. However, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean the General Assembly has previously decided that OIOS reports are,

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<v Speaker 3>upon request, made available to any member state. In those cases,

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<v Speaker 3>the Undersecretary General for Internal Oversight Services retains the discrection

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<v Speaker 3>to redact or withhold access to an OIOS report for

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<v Speaker 3>reasons of confidentiality or access might risk violating the due

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<v Speaker 3>process rights of those involved in OIOS investigations.

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<v Speaker 10>All right, wait, I'm not done. Okay, Okay again, could

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<v Speaker 10>we have OIOS do some sort of briefing.

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<v Speaker 3>I will make the requests where that goes.

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<v Speaker 10>And wait, So the nineteen that were investigated, were these

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<v Speaker 10>nineteen all on the list of employees of UNRA that

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<v Speaker 10>was originally sent to the Israelis because they were vetting people.

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<v Speaker 10>And as you remember when we heard about this in

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<v Speaker 10>the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe all employees are ones that we are. All

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<v Speaker 3>names go over to Israel for vetting, so all un

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<v Speaker 3>RUS staff members that would apply to Okay, Frank.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, in your remarks about this, you said these people

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<v Speaker 11>may have been involved. Is that your words or is

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<v Speaker 11>that the investigator's words?

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<v Speaker 4>That is my words? As as as summarizing.

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<v Speaker 11>You just fire somebody out of may have it is

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<v Speaker 11>it is.

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<v Speaker 3>The words I have been given to tell you, which

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<v Speaker 3>have been very precisely written for me.

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<v Speaker 11>Right right, But can you give us what's behind and

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<v Speaker 11>may have, I mean, any kind of evidence that he got.

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<v Speaker 3>A short of the manigator point is if, as I

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<v Speaker 3>said to Gabriel, you know, if these allegations are verified

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<v Speaker 3>and corroborated, then that that could constitute sanctionable violations of

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00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:52.320
<v Speaker 3>unra's rules and regulations. Now the question is one of verification.

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<v Speaker 3>I said earlier, I think before you came into the

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<v Speaker 3>room that since information used by Israeli officials to support

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<v Speaker 3>the allegations that remained in Israel, because the OYOS was

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<v Speaker 3>not able to independently authenticate most of the information provided

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<v Speaker 3>to it.

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<v Speaker 11>Can we assume though, that the people that were terminated

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<v Speaker 11>they verified the information and then they were terminated.

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<v Speaker 3>Process Wise, the appropriate processes have been followed, uh and

642
00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:22.280
<v Speaker 3>and the termination followed the as you can see, an

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<v Speaker 3>extensive OIOS examination into this deshing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes for hunt a couple of follow ups also on

645
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 5>the oy OS investigation. Just now you mentioned the sources

646
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 5>of the evidence, the visit to Aman to Israel, email,

647
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 5>the car and other other information. But to what level

648
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 5>can can the OIOS determine that this person might involved

649
00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:55.719
<v Speaker 5>or one hundred percent certainly involved in the attack. I

650
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.599
<v Speaker 5>mean where where is the what what is the percentage?

651
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<v Speaker 5>Like how how you put the le level of those

652
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<v Speaker 5>information to to to to to determine like who is

653
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<v Speaker 5>in this in this involvement.

654
00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:11.719
<v Speaker 3>There would need to be further process of authentication and corroboration.

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<v Speaker 3>We are evaluating what the next steps will be in

656
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<v Speaker 3>that regard.

657
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<v Speaker 5>So which means which means, so far you have people

658
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:24.159
<v Speaker 5>may be may be involved, but there might I just

659
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<v Speaker 5>I just don't understand this may because I feel like

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00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 5>you don't have one hundred percent confirmation.

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00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:34.599
<v Speaker 3>We have sufficient information in order to take the actions

662
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 3>that we're taking, which is to say, the termination of

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00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 3>these nine individuals. Beyond that, there will need to evaluate

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<v Speaker 3>what further steps are needed in order to fully corroborate

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<v Speaker 3>and evaluate.

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<v Speaker 5>So there's a further further action on this report, on

667
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 5>this investigation. Because you said this it's been already concluded.

668
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<v Speaker 3>Then this is the iOS investigation has been concluded. There

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<v Speaker 3>may be further action taken, and we'll need to see

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<v Speaker 3>how that is done.

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<v Speaker 8>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Another thing is in your statement you said the ten cases,

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<v Speaker 5>the indefficient evidence and the no evidence cases, appropriate measures

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<v Speaker 5>will be taken in due course? What what what are

675
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:14.440
<v Speaker 5>those appropriate?

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<v Speaker 3>We're evaluating, Uh, we're evaluating what to do with those

677
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.920
<v Speaker 3>staff members now that there is no there is no

678
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 3>sufficient evidence linking them, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Their employment is now still on hold. I mean you're not.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to well, we'll have to review this. We'll have

681
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<v Speaker 4>to review each individual case to see how to be

682
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<v Speaker 4>how that is to be handled.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, let me ask you another question. Last Friday or Thursday,

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<v Speaker 5>I think mister Domenico announced a a program called back

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<v Speaker 5>to Learning in Gaza. I'm wondering he's uh. The the

686
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<v Speaker 5>the purpose is to give children safe spaces to play,

687
00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:02.400
<v Speaker 5>to learn, to grow, to reunite with old friends and

688
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 5>make new ones. Given the fact that we heard multiple

689
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:13.639
<v Speaker 5>times nowhere is safe in Gaza, will this place of

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<v Speaker 5>those children go back to learn be one hundred percent safe.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not a single place in god so that it's

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent safe. We've wanted to ensure the safety

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<v Speaker 3>of our facilities, but as you can see, our facilities

694
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<v Speaker 3>have been attacked, so we can't guarantee that.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're doing our very best.

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00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:35.519
<v Speaker 3>To ensure that areas like this will be safe and

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<v Speaker 3>that children will be kept free from harm.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, we need the full cooperation with the parties for that. Yes, please,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you.

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<v Speaker 12>Roan on Bangladesh. Are they concerns of how the situation

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<v Speaker 12>in the country will impact regional security? Have they been

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00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 12>conversations between the UN and authorities in Bangladesh in the region?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you. I'm thinking I'm hoping that this will be

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<v Speaker 4>what I need to answer your question.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it is not.

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<v Speaker 12>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I've been waiting for a Bangladesh statement, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not quite it's not quite ready yet.

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<v Speaker 4>What I can tell you about the situation in.

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<v Speaker 3>Bangladesh is that for us, the important things are are

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<v Speaker 3>that for the parties to remain calm, and we want

712
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:39.119
<v Speaker 3>to emphasize the importance of a peaceful, orderly and democratic transition.

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<v Speaker 3>We stand in full solidarity with the people of Bangladesh

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<v Speaker 3>at this time and we call for full respect of

715
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<v Speaker 3>their democratic and human rights and ultimately, regarding that what's

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<v Speaker 3>happened so far, there's a need for a full, independent

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00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 3>and impartial and transparent investigation into all acts of violence.

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00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:11.079
<v Speaker 4>Is this what I want? I didn't really expect a

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<v Speaker 4>bad time, But.

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<v Speaker 12>Have there been for the conversations, have there been any

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<v Speaker 12>conversations between the UN and authorities there in the region.

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<v Speaker 3>We are in touch with authorities in the region, and

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00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.320
<v Speaker 3>our country team is in touch with authorities in Bangladesh,

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00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:29.559
<v Speaker 3>and we'll see where we go with that. But right

725
00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 3>now the situation is moving very swiftly. We'll have to

726
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.960
<v Speaker 3>see what happens once the dust settles, if the sum.

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<v Speaker 13>If I had going back to the issue of the investigation,

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<v Speaker 13>so I just want to understand because it's a little

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<v Speaker 13>bit confusing. So you have information, you couldn't verify them independently,

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<v Speaker 13>and you still.

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<v Speaker 14>Making measures against people. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, here's the point. OIOS investigations are not criminal investigations.

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<v Speaker 3>What OIOS investigators do is that they carry out administrative

734
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:16.440
<v Speaker 3>fact finding inquiries related to personnel, funds, and activities of

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00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:20.239
<v Speaker 3>the organization. The aim of an administrative investigation is to

736
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<v Speaker 3>establish facts and to allow for a conclusion as to

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00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:26.559
<v Speaker 3>whether internal administrative law and procedures of the organization have

738
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<v Speaker 3>been violated. In this case, the unraw regulations and rules.

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<v Speaker 3>The United Nations has no criminal jurisdiction over its personnel,

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<v Speaker 3>but we can impose disciplinary sanctions in response to wrongdoing

741
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 3>or take other administrative measures to ensure the smooth functioning

742
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:44.519
<v Speaker 3>of the organization, and that is what we're doing in

743
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<v Speaker 3>this case.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, but can you say for one hundred percent that

745
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:49.239
<v Speaker 13>there was wrongdoing.

746
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<v Speaker 14>That happened there? Can you say for sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Because one thing I've made clear is it may have happened,

748
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<v Speaker 3>but we are not able for reasons I've been saying, repeat,

749
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<v Speaker 3>lead doing this to fully verify and authenticate the reasons

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<v Speaker 3>for this.

751
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<v Speaker 13>Did you, during this investigation talk to the people who

752
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 13>were accused of being involved in such activities?

753
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:16.079
<v Speaker 11>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, And what I can tell you is, because of

755
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.800
<v Speaker 3>safety and security concerns, OIOS did not meet with subject,

756
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:26.039
<v Speaker 3>unrust staff, and possible corroborating witnesses to conduct interviews and

757
00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:30.000
<v Speaker 3>take statements. In some cases, however, OIOS was able to

758
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:33.840
<v Speaker 3>request and secure video recorded statements from the subjects who

759
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 3>responded to a series of set questions addressing the allegations

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00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.400
<v Speaker 3>of their own involvement in the armed attacks of September

761
00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.760
<v Speaker 3>of the seventh of October twenty twenty three. In another case,

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<v Speaker 3>the subject, on his own volition, provided a video recording

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<v Speaker 3>offering a general denial of the allegations raised against him.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, just sorry, just one last one. So you said

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<v Speaker 13>that the accusation were made by the Israelis. The Israelis

766
00:53:58.960 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 13>gave you information without giving you the evidence. They have

767
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.719
<v Speaker 13>the evidence, the so called evidence question.

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<v Speaker 4>There's some evidence that is in their custody.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, yeah, so it's in the custody of the israel

770
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 13>it's not your custody.

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<v Speaker 14>Is that correct?

772
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 13>And why didn't you give this Why didn't they give

773
00:54:12.920 --> 00:54:14.519
<v Speaker 13>you this so called evidence.

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00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:18.079
<v Speaker 3>That's a question to ask them, not us. That you should,

775
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 3>of course have asked all relevant authorities to provide any

776
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 3>necessary evidence. There's some that that we were not able

777
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 3>to have because it's not in our custody.

778
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:30.079
<v Speaker 13>But but I mean, you can understand why you're a

779
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 13>little bit baffled by your statement, because it seems to

780
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.159
<v Speaker 13>be that you are coming to a conclusion without having

781
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 13>enough evidence and without providing us enough evidence to.

782
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 14>To to to to understand what you are saying.

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00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:51.559
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we act on the best information that we have.

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00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.639
<v Speaker 3>The reason we've come to these conclusions as the result

785
00:54:55.760 --> 00:55:03.039
<v Speaker 3>of some fairly painstaking work since since January. Obviously, this

786
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 3>is like I said, this is not a criminal investigation.

787
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 3>For criminal investigation, you would need different standards and you

788
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 3>would need a different approach if there is to be

789
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 3>any follow up as a criminal investigation, other steps will

790
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:18.639
<v Speaker 3>need to be considered because this is not the body

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<v Speaker 3>for that.

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<v Speaker 13>Sorry, but why then would you fire the people if

793
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:26.519
<v Speaker 13>it's not the criminal investigation, If you don't have enough evidence,

794
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:29.360
<v Speaker 13>why are you firing them or taking any steps against them?

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<v Speaker 14>That's what it's not.

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00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 13>Clear for us.

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00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, for nine people, the evidence was sufficient

798
00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:36.679
<v Speaker 3>to conclude that they may have been involved in the

799
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:40.519
<v Speaker 3>seventh of October of attacks, and the UN has the

800
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<v Speaker 3>ability in its authority to impose disciplinary sanctions in response

801
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:48.400
<v Speaker 3>to wrongdoing or take other administrative measures to ensure the

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00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:51.639
<v Speaker 3>smooth functioning of the organization, And as I said in

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<v Speaker 3>what I read earlier, that the employment of the nine

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<v Speaker 3>individuals will be terminated in the interests of the UN

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00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Relief and Works Agency.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, to understand, Sorry to go back and back to

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<v Speaker 2>the word may, but like to understand better. Does that

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<v Speaker 2>mean like you see that these nine people likely or

809
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<v Speaker 2>highly likely were part of the text?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a good way of describing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Okay, I have more questions. Sorry, Did I understand

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<v Speaker 2>correctly that you didn't conduct interviews out of safety concerns

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<v Speaker 2>with the accused. Then I would like to know what

814
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:34.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of safety concerns is this.

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00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 3>You're well aware of what the safety concerns are of

816
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:40.320
<v Speaker 3>going to to GUS at this time.

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00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Like you can, you can still interview people via like zoom.

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00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:48.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, we were able to get video recorded statements, as

819
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<v Speaker 3>I just mentioned, by the way, a lot of the

820
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.199
<v Speaker 3>information that I'm saying to you right now, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to give it to you all on mass following the briefing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I just have.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So next we're gonna hear from a person whose

824
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<v Speaker 1>name is Link. She is speaking at the Training Training

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<v Speaker 1>March in Vancouver, BC. I wanted to make clear that

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<v Speaker 1>the training March is not part of Vancouver Pride because

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<v Speaker 1>of pink washing, so we should not confuse the the

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<v Speaker 1>organizers of one event being involved in this particular event.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna hear what Link has to say. She

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<v Speaker 1>is from or Link is from Palestine, she grew up

831
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<v Speaker 1>there and has been able to move to Canada into Vancouver,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're gonna hear what a perspective of person

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<v Speaker 1>who from a person who actually lived the gender oppression

834
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<v Speaker 1>that is happening in Palestine, along with other types of

835
00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:18.239
<v Speaker 1>oppression that are happening, and they can see the attacks

836
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<v Speaker 1>that are going on against transgender people in Palestine and Israel.

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<v Speaker 15>First, I'd like.

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<v Speaker 16>To say thank you to the Trans March organizers for

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<v Speaker 16>giving me space to speak today and for organizing this

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<v Speaker 16>lovely ceremony and for the march coming up.

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<v Speaker 15>All the volunteers. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 16>My name is Link.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm proudly queer in trance and i am proud for Palestinian.

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<v Speaker 16>Let me know if I'm am I speaking loud enough,

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<v Speaker 16>Folks in the back, Okay, thank you, Hello, thank you.

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<v Speaker 16>When I knew I was going to speak today, I

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<v Speaker 16>really didn't realize what would be happening this week on

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<v Speaker 16>a global scale. And so to keep everyone aligned with

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<v Speaker 16>the context of what Palestinians are already well aware of,

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<v Speaker 16>I will give an update. I must provide a trigger warning.

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<v Speaker 16>There are mentions of sexual violence, though I'm not going

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<v Speaker 16>into graphic details. This week, Israeli courts were debating the

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<v Speaker 16>validity of using rape as a form of torture after

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<v Speaker 16>a Palestinian prisoner was hospitalized from a gang rape by

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<v Speaker 16>members of the IOF Shame mobs of Israeli settlers showed

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<v Speaker 16>up in attempts to release the guilty parties, and this

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<v Speaker 16>was later brought up as a topic of debate in

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<v Speaker 16>the Israeli court. She Not only was it a matter

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<v Speaker 16>of debate, but members of the court were speaking in

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<v Speaker 16>favor that this means of torture is justified. The use

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<v Speaker 16>of sexual violence by Zionist forces against Palestinians is a

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<v Speaker 16>long standing practice since the inception of the Zionist entity.

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<v Speaker 16>Violence of this nature does not discriminate based on sex

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<v Speaker 16>or gender.

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<v Speaker 15>Let me be clear, if.

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<v Speaker 16>We cannot have moral clarity to resist these evils we

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<v Speaker 16>are witnessing today, then we as humanity have lost it.

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<v Speaker 16>As an activist, as an Arab, as a member of

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<v Speaker 16>a gender minority, and as a survivor of sexual violence,

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<v Speaker 16>I am continually lost for words. Dindians are tired of

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<v Speaker 16>needing to prove our humanity to the world. Equally so

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<v Speaker 16>I know, trans people, we are also tired of needing

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<v Speaker 16>to prove our humanity.

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<v Speaker 15>To the world.

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<v Speaker 16>If you call yourself a feminist, a believer in social justice,

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<v Speaker 16>if you stand for human rights, then you must stand

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<v Speaker 16>with the plight of the Palestinian people to put an

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<v Speaker 16>end to Zionism and to stop the ongoing genocide and

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<v Speaker 16>torture campaigns of Palestinians. Free the people of Palestine and

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<v Speaker 16>free all Palestinian prisoners.

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<v Speaker 15>Free the land from the illegal occupation from the river

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<v Speaker 15>to the sea.

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<v Speaker 16>If you are unsure of the best way to support

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<v Speaker 16>the movement, look into the boycott, divestment and sanctioned movement.

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<v Speaker 16>Support Palestinian activists, amplify Palestinian journalists, and donate to mutual

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<v Speaker 16>aid funds going directly to Palestinians. If you're unsure of

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<v Speaker 16>about these fundraisers, you can see me any time and I'll.

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<v Speaker 15>Let you know where to donate.

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<v Speaker 16>If you call yourself a feminist, then your feminism must

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<v Speaker 16>include the liberation of trans people. Your feminism must include

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<v Speaker 16>their fight for access to use the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 15>Freely without the threat of violence or harassment.

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<v Speaker 16>The fight for access to healthcare with the help of

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<v Speaker 16>insurance provided to the rest of the population. The fight

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<v Speaker 16>for equal access to legal matters around changing documents the

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<v Speaker 16>same as the rest of the population. A struggle to

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<v Speaker 16>find housing after many become displaced from their families after

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<v Speaker 16>their identities are revealed, and solidarity to affirm and believe

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<v Speaker 16>trans people when they tell us who they are. I

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<v Speaker 16>cannot speak too much to my trans experience, as you

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<v Speaker 16>can tell how much more comes at the forefront of

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<v Speaker 16>my own intersections. How can we expect people to explore,

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<v Speaker 16>or know or share their experiences of gender when they

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<v Speaker 16>are being bombed, forcibly, displaced and starved. Shame.

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<v Speaker 15>It is a privilege to know my gender and have

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<v Speaker 15>it affirmed in my community.

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<v Speaker 16>When I first came out as trans, the most important

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<v Speaker 16>knowledge I gained was.

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<v Speaker 15>The statistics, the statistic about.

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<v Speaker 16>The suicide rate among the trans community compared to the

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<v Speaker 16>rest of the population.

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<v Speaker 15>Shame. I have fought every day since to not be

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<v Speaker 15>another statistic. We are not numbers to the trans youth

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<v Speaker 15>of the future. I pray that you can hold on

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<v Speaker 15>to everything that brings you joy.

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<v Speaker 14>That you are valid.

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<v Speaker 15>You are valid in your identity, and while.

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<v Speaker 16>We realize the ever present cloud of death over our community,

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<v Speaker 16>that we will continue to live as who we are

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<v Speaker 16>and to fight for what we believe in. The commitment

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<v Speaker 16>to our identities is a commitment to the truth, and

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<v Speaker 16>the reason they will hate us is the inherent threat

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<v Speaker 16>we instill to the colonizer's binary, fuck the minery.

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<v Speaker 17>And fuck apartheid. Trans people are.

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<v Speaker 15>Here to stay WO.

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<v Speaker 18>And Palestinians will return as we resist settler colonialism globally.

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<v Speaker 18>Let us be united in our struggles for self determination,

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<v Speaker 18>justice and healthcare for trans people everywhere, WHOA, and all

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<v Speaker 18>of the same things in a free Palestine.

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<v Speaker 14>From the river to the sea.

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<v Speaker 15>Palestine will be free, thank you very much.

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