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All the links down in 12 00:01:12,359 --> 00:01:14,480 the description below if you want to support the show 13 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,439 and today joining us once again for the at least 14 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,840 six times. Emily Moore, Welcome back to the show. 15 00:01:24,599 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: Always a pleasure to be here with you, my friend, 16 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:29,879 Always a pleasure. What did you do to get demonetized? 17 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,879 Was it the show at Thomas No? 18 00:01:31,879 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: No, no, no. I know the boundaries that I can 19 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,079 navigate upon. I have mastered the art of what they 20 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:47,719 call YouTube and the algorithmic AI overlords. It was It 21 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,200 was a stupid true, they said I was. It wasn't 22 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,359 technically anything I posted, by the way, but they said 23 00:01:54,359 --> 00:01:59,120 I was praising terrorist organizations, which I'm gonna go ahead 24 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,599 and bleep that out of this is because that's what 25 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,560 I got hit with. So apparently I was praising terrorist 26 00:02:06,719 --> 00:02:14,879 organizations and what they say, Yeah, terroristic threats and some 27 00:02:15,159 --> 00:02:18,800 stupid shit like that. I don't know, something dumb that 28 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,000 I obviously wasn't doing because I love the government, and I. 29 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,599 Speaker 3: Don't even think I've ever heard you talk about like 30 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,520 politics or geopolitics or any of that shit. 31 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:32,719 Speaker 2: Again, I think that politics and all of that, I 32 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:37,159 think it's part of this mind control they have over people. 33 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,639 I don't lean okay, I'm lying. If I lean any 34 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,080 sort of way, it's probably conservative based on my ideas. 35 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,719 But when I look at a certain party or candidate, right, 36 00:02:50,759 --> 00:02:53,439 because everyone's like, oh, either Trump this or Trump that, 37 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,599 I lean more towards what makes sense to me. Right. 38 00:02:56,599 --> 00:02:59,800 If I see something makes sense to me and my idea, 39 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,639 I go with that. I am not like I'm the 40 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,759 only time I voted, I voted for Barack Obama. I 41 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:09,639 think the second time around or the first time around, 42 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,879 I'm actually I'm actually registered as a Democrat technically, okay, 43 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,840 So but again I haven't voted since because you start 44 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,080 to once you wake up and start realizing the fake 45 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,840 and gay matrix, you start to go, oh, I see 46 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:28,240 what they're doing. So they do this every four years, 47 00:03:28,319 --> 00:03:30,919 Like this is the same thing every four years. 48 00:03:31,159 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: Right, and here we are celebration. 49 00:03:33,759 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: Yes, So Emily, before we get into it, where can 50 00:03:36,639 --> 00:03:37,919 people find you and your show? 51 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,159 Speaker 4: My YouTube channel is my name Emily Moyer. From there 52 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:45,680 you can find your way to all the other stuff. 53 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: I have a bunch of different offerings on Patreon, Patreon 54 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:55,159 dot com, forward Slash, off planet Media, a few different 55 00:03:55,199 --> 00:03:58,560 lobuls pages, but the main one is Emilymoyer dot locals 56 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:02,039 dot com. And I post just a very small amount 57 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,199 of stuff on Rockman anymore because I have no idea 58 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,000 what's going on over there, and that is Rockman dot com, 59 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:08,759 Forward Slash, Emily Moyre. 60 00:04:10,159 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 61 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,919 Speaker 3: So I have lots of different shows and concepts with 62 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,720 different co hosts and with guests, and I was hoping 63 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,879 it would be ready by April, but now it's probably 64 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,959 not going to be till June, if I'm honest with myself. 65 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,240 I'm also going to be putting out my first solo 66 00:04:26,759 --> 00:04:31,959 project series this year that I'm working hard on right now, 67 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,439 and it's going to have it's it's like I've never 68 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,879 been one to do like the sort of solo show 69 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,560 where you talk to yourself into black hole for an 70 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,920 hour and a half or two hours. But I think 71 00:04:43,959 --> 00:04:48,120 I've reached the point in my career here where the 72 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,279 next project requires that. So I'm working on that and 73 00:04:52,399 --> 00:04:55,040 that should be ready to really kick off publicly. 74 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,319 Speaker 4: I think in June I might have some some sort of. 75 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: Early on sort of like preemptive episodes, like sort of 76 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:07,079 like a prologue type of things that I just put 77 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,680 up for supporters until I kind of get comfortable doing it, 78 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,399 but then probably around. 79 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: June or so they'll start to see it pop up. 80 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,639 Speaker 2: Do you struggle with the solo stuff, Well, it's just that. 81 00:05:19,639 --> 00:05:23,519 Speaker 3: I didn't do it right, Like I didn't even mean 82 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,519 to start doing this right. Like I just was a 83 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,879 guest on Randy's podcast and then we decided we'd do 84 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:33,040 like a show together once a month, and then all 85 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,920 of a sudden, I was the producer and the co host, 86 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:37,360 and then I've been doing this ever since, and so 87 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:41,439 it was always with either a co host or a guest, 88 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,360 or co host and a guest, And I don't even 89 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:48,240 think I ever did my first solo video for anything 90 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:54,040 other than an announcement until like in January twenty twenty two, 91 00:05:54,439 --> 00:05:59,040 when they were like revoking Novak Djokovic's travel visa in 92 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:03,199 Australia because I didn't have the poke and the poke right, 93 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:08,000 I made about a thirty five or four minute solo 94 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,959 video about Novak. 95 00:06:09,639 --> 00:06:12,399 Speaker 4: Djokovic, and that was the first time I ever. 96 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,439 Speaker 3: Even did anything sort of publicly by myself. I've done 97 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:20,120 a couple of solo live streams, which feels a little 98 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,439 more comfortable to me because at least there's a chat 99 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:25,240 room going so you can see, you can judge whether 100 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,319 what you're saying is landing. But I think I've become 101 00:06:28,439 --> 00:06:32,240 completely attuned to being able to look at the face 102 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,560 of the person I'm talking to, either the co host 103 00:06:34,639 --> 00:06:38,319 or the guest, and see if what I'm saying registers, 104 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,079 if what seems clear to me actually is clear to 105 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,240 another person, and using that sort of as a Q 106 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,639 for where to go next or or what I need 107 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,360 to let them, you know, slow down and explain or whatnot. 108 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,920 So just talking to myself in the in the box 109 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,199 because I already know what I think I already know 110 00:06:58,759 --> 00:07:03,720 if I understand myself not right, it's like sometimes. 111 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,959 Speaker 4: The different skill and so i'm I'm I'm having to 112 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:08,279 learn that one. 113 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it is, it is. It does help 114 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,480 having a co host because yeah, you can bounce ideas 115 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:17,759 and talking. That's how you go down these rabbit holes 116 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,279 and tangent. I like tangents because they not because they 117 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:26,639 fill air, but sometimes they bring up interesting concepts, right, 118 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,079 like interesting things to talk about, So it does help. 119 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,399 And I admire people like the dark journalists who can 120 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,319 just go on and on and on for what feels 121 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:40,560 like hours. But also they do that for a living, 122 00:07:40,759 --> 00:07:43,399 so it would make sense that they would have time 123 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,600 to research, have notes. One hundred percent they probably have 124 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,480 notes because that's what they do for a living. Again, 125 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,319 if you could put the time in, then so be it. Right. 126 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,879 So are the files out yet? What's going on? Have you? 127 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,480 Do you have any thoughts on this whole eighty thousand 128 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:01,839 pages the JFK assassination coming out? 129 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: I have no thoughts on that one hard right, like 130 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:09,560 it is what like I am at this point? I mean, 131 00:08:10,519 --> 00:08:13,800 we're in this sort of conundrum here right where it's 132 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:20,639 like we've we've somehow whether we were programmed to do 133 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,519 this or whether this was our rejection of the program. 134 00:08:23,839 --> 00:08:27,240 We go searching for evidence that we believe is hidden, 135 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,360 and somehow we've been like, we've been convinced that that 136 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:35,840 means documents, right, which there's nothing easier in the world to. 137 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 4: Fucking fabricate than the documents. Right. 138 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: And so as I'm preparing my series, like it's based 139 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:48,279 on documents on some level, right, which I'm also going 140 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,519 to bring into questions. So it's going to there's gonna 141 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:52,639 be sort of a portion of the series that is 142 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,120 going to be based on the information in the documents, 143 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,120 and then there's going to be another portion of the 144 00:08:57,159 --> 00:08:58,919 series that it's going to be, you know, the paywall 145 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:00,919 portion where I say. 146 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 4: What I think is really going on. 147 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:06,639 Speaker 3: Here, right, that is, you know, maybe using the documents 148 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,080 as like a loose framework or scaffolding. 149 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,799 Speaker 4: But I think at this point they want us to 150 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:15,879 find the documents. They're not hiding the documents, right. 151 00:09:15,919 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: The point is to get people to find the documents, 152 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,039 to want the documents, to request the documents, to waste 153 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,399 time and money and hours making foyer requests and all 154 00:09:25,399 --> 00:09:27,639 of this kind of stuff, right, And then when the 155 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,200 documents come, they're either redacted. They don't contain what you 156 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,440 think they're going to contain, or everything in them we 157 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,000 already know. 158 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 4: And so like, it's been a lot of build up 159 00:09:38,159 --> 00:09:40,320 to nothing with a lot of these kinds of things. 160 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: I personally think that, you know, documents are created intentionally 161 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:51,200 to be to steer the conversation rather than the documents 162 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,639 being kept from us to control the conversation. 163 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: One but and that's the thing, right because I recently 164 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:04,559 interviewed a JFKs so terrorisist I guess you could call him. 165 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,320 He's been studying the JFK and writing about government psyops 166 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,840 and things of this nature for over thirty five years, 167 00:10:11,759 --> 00:10:14,960 Larry Hancock. And that was one of the things I 168 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,639 asked him. I go, how can you trust right source? 169 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,879 Trust me? Bro, Well, how can you trust the source? 170 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,080 Which we know the source is the source that's been 171 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:26,679 lying to us this entire time, But yet we're gonna 172 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,879 take those documents for what they actually are. How do 173 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,080 you determine? And then he even told me that some 174 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:35,759 of the documents, in order to keep them away and 175 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:38,960 out of hands of other foreign powers, they're kind of 176 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,639 sort of written in code, right, aliases and things of 177 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,840 that nature. So how can you even trust the source? 178 00:10:46,919 --> 00:10:51,200 Now you can get super crazy with that where I 179 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,440 guess that would be black pilled where nothing is real? Right, 180 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,000 is that like black pilled where everything's faking gay? Or 181 00:10:57,039 --> 00:10:58,000 is that a whole nother pill? 182 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: I mean no, I mean I think you could consider 183 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,399 that sort of black build where there's like black pild 184 00:11:04,519 --> 00:11:07,759 is more like there's no hope, right, Like you're so 185 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,759 created that there's no And I think like on some level, 186 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,159 like some people think of. 187 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 4: That as being like negative and I'm just. 188 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: Like, well, once we have no hope for any answers 189 00:11:17,879 --> 00:11:19,720 from these people, we can just move on with our lives, 190 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,720 which is very helpful. 191 00:11:21,039 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: Right. 192 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 3: This is like my favorite one is that you have 193 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,039 all these people who don't trust anything the government says, 194 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,720 but they're demanding disclosure from the government. 195 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 196 00:11:29,159 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: Right, So like if suddenly the government tells you that 197 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,840 there's aliens and they're you know, shacking up at the 198 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,000 White House, Like, are you gonna believe that just because 199 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,559 like I don't understand, right, you don't trust anything the 200 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,320 government says, but you're demanding that they disclose the answer 201 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:46,120 that you want, right, Like, wouldn't that invalidate the answer 202 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:49,879 that you say you're looking for based on your previous philosophy. 203 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,879 Speaker 2: I would say so yeah, but it gives it some 204 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:57,000 sort of legitimacy once you hear from the government, right, 205 00:11:57,039 --> 00:12:00,039 because well they kind of sort of run everything. 206 00:12:00,519 --> 00:12:03,919 Speaker 4: Right, So, but but it's legitimacy of what not the truth. 207 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,759 If the government says is a lie, then the disclosure 208 00:12:06,879 --> 00:12:07,559 not the truth. 209 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: It's just the validation of what. It's weird like this 210 00:12:11,639 --> 00:12:14,519 is this is you know, this gets to the place 211 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,240 of like mommy, daddy, government, Like you and I both 212 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,720 have things we probably don't care about, don't like doing 213 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:22,799 it for some reason, it's important to our parents, and 214 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,080 so you do it. Okay, it's nice to have a validation, 215 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,120 but that doesn't make you like the thing or make 216 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,840 the threeing true or right or good or whatever. It's 217 00:12:30,879 --> 00:12:35,759 like the same thing. We're in that same stupid infantile relationship, right. 218 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,480 I mean, I hope I'm not, and I don't think 219 00:12:38,519 --> 00:12:40,679 you are. But like some of these people with this, 220 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:45,120 you know, wanting disclosure and the documents and you know, 221 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,759 like transparency and all of this kind of stuff, Like 222 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,679 I think we are so far past any point where 223 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,960 really any of that would even be helpful, that like 224 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,039 the biggest thing is just to sort of turn around 225 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:05,000 and walk away from me what I'm finding as I 226 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:08,919 dig into because like the idea for my series comes 227 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:15,080 from I supposed trove of documents, right, Like, here's the 228 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,919 thing that's really weird. Right, Okay, So the bulk of 229 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:23,440 my online media career has been really dealing with topics 230 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,440 that emanated from my interest and my research into m Caltra. Right, 231 00:13:28,159 --> 00:13:31,559 And there's the story that like, you know, once they 232 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,600 sort of got caught and they understood that there was 233 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:36,320 going to be an investigation and hearing which became like 234 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,320 the church committee that they were in. 235 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:40,519 Speaker 4: You know, the documents were destroyed. 236 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,919 Speaker 3: But so isn't it weird that the only documents that 237 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,480 are left, the documents that are left are ones that 238 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,720 indict them as having done something evil or having done 239 00:13:55,759 --> 00:14:01,120 something dark or bad or wrong. There's no like you'd 240 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,080 think that those would be the documents that you destroy. 241 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,759 And if you are just gonna leave around some stuff, 242 00:14:07,799 --> 00:14:11,519 it would either be all redacted or it would be 243 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,120 something that made it seem like it was something different 244 00:14:14,159 --> 00:14:18,360 than what it was, or that was at least a balance. 245 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,240 But like there's a lot of incriminating both financially and 246 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:28,360 incriminating in terms of what the claimed point was information 247 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:32,919 in the documents left behind. Okay, so it is in 248 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,720 my mind at this point, no, if people have to 249 00:14:37,759 --> 00:14:39,840 know about this at all, we want them to think 250 00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:43,000 about it one way, and that one way that we 251 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,159 want them to think. 252 00:14:43,919 --> 00:14:46,039 Speaker 4: About it as is as. 253 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: A some sort of suppressive or oppressive, weaponized program against 254 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,720 the population. And I'm not saying that's not true, but 255 00:14:54,879 --> 00:14:57,519 what I am saying is there is a likelihood that 256 00:14:57,519 --> 00:15:00,639 that might be true, but not the point, right And 257 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,000 I know, based on what those documents claim to have 258 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:09,919 been studying, that it's impossible that they only returned the 259 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,559 results that those documents say they were looking for, right, Like, 260 00:15:14,679 --> 00:15:17,000 lots of other things would have happened too. 261 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,519 Speaker 4: And some of. 262 00:15:18,399 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: Those other things I know for sure are definitely not 263 00:15:23,759 --> 00:15:27,799 weaponized or negative. They ranged from weaponized to negative to 264 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,480 neutral to positive and beneficial to fucking mind blowingly what 265 00:15:32,519 --> 00:15:34,440 the fuck do the humans have the potential to do? 266 00:15:34,679 --> 00:15:37,840 Where are those documents? That's what I'm more interested in now. 267 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:42,399 I'm less interested in the ones that indit, you know, 268 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,480 evil fucktards as part of our government or military industrial 269 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:46,440 complex or corporation. 270 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: We already know about all that stuff. 271 00:15:47,879 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: Like those people are all dead, We already know about 272 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,600 all that stuff, But like where are where? Where's the 273 00:15:53,759 --> 00:15:57,360 results of some of these experiments, both the things that 274 00:15:57,399 --> 00:16:00,440 they were trying to have happen, hoped would have and 275 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,039 also the things that went wrong, and that, in this 276 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,679 case wrong could have been mean they went well, or 277 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,200 like they turned up something positive instead of something negative, 278 00:16:08,279 --> 00:16:09,399 or just something different than. 279 00:16:09,399 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: What was expected. Where's all that? Why has that gone? 280 00:16:12,639 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: And just the stuff that makes them look like criminals 281 00:16:15,039 --> 00:16:18,240 left unless it's more convenient for them to have the 282 00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:21,759 population be scared of them and think they're criminal. Then 283 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,120 understand that the humans of the United States are resources 284 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:29,679 for their government that are full of potential and abilities 285 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,279 and genetics and all this kind of other stuff that 286 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,360 allow for certain things to happen. 287 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,679 Speaker 4: That it's very important we keep sacred. 288 00:16:37,679 --> 00:16:43,399 Speaker 2: Not right, that's wild, that's that's that's a different. So 289 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:47,440 you take control of the narrative, you manipulate the narrative, 290 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,519 You stick with one thing, and that's all you're known for. 291 00:16:50,919 --> 00:16:54,279 In the meantime, you got the juice behind the scenes of. 292 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,879 Speaker 3: Like idea that there is mind control is part of 293 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:57,720 the mind control. 294 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's one hundred and thirty programs that 295 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,119 took place in prisons, hospitals, and universities, which is interesting, right, 296 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,240 universities because you wouldn't think of some sort of programming 297 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:15,799 going on there. Well, right, obviously not like that, not 298 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,359 like how we're painted. When I think of MK, I'll 299 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,119 try I think of how much of it was like 300 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,039 Stranger Things or a Kira or you know how we 301 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:28,880 see it in what's the one? A clockwork orange type 302 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,400 of thing? How much of it was like that versus 303 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,319 how much of it wasn't like that? 304 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: Let me just look, I'm looking for one thing I 305 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,960 want to read you, like, one particular project that gets 306 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,839 my attention over and over if I can, Like, I'm 307 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,960 always get confused when I want to stream yard because 308 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,359 it's it works different than I can't. I'm not going 309 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,240 to screen share, but it always makes my computer do 310 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:53,720 funny things. Okay, I feel like the project might have 311 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:54,880 been one forty four? 312 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 2: And also how much of it was like a cult 313 00:17:57,519 --> 00:17:59,920 in nature? You did you run into any of that? 314 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, this is I'm not going to give away 315 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,480 the premise of the series right now, because I'm just 316 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:10,200 not willing to I'm not ready to do that yet, 317 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,000 but I am. I am willing to give you a 318 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,519 little bit that I haven't discussed with anybody yet. Let 319 00:18:17,559 --> 00:18:18,839 me just see if I can find this one that 320 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,880 I want to explain to you. I want to tell 321 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,039 you that you tell me if this sounds like anything that. 322 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,039 Speaker 4: Let's see, where's the one I'm thinking of. 323 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: I might be able to find it this quick because 324 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,359 there's actually one hundred and forty nine that have documentation, 325 00:18:34,839 --> 00:18:37,319 which I've heard that there's over two hundred, but the 326 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:42,200 trove of documents only goes up to one hundred and 327 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:42,880 forty nine. 328 00:18:43,039 --> 00:18:45,839 Speaker 2: I just want to see and that whole story of like, hey, 329 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,920 we stumbled across this room that had all these documents 330 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,279 that were so weren't they supposed to be destroyed? Is 331 00:18:53,319 --> 00:18:55,160 that what the narrative is that they were going to 332 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,160 be destroyed and then they were like whistleblowed? 333 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 3: I guess they were the story that I understand. And 334 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,319 again there's like little different versions of each of these stories. 335 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,799 Hold on, I just want to look at that one, right, 336 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:10,079 here's one. This isn't the one I was looking for. 337 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:15,359 But you tell me if this sounds like what you've heard. 338 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 4: And KELT is about. 339 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: Project ninety nine services related to certain physical studies which 340 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,839 are required to develop effective materials which will influence the 341 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,680 central nervous system. And the project also supported studies on 342 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:34,039 the optical rotary power of solid and liquid crystals. 343 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,039 Speaker 4: The fuck right, But that is the one that I'm 344 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:39,920 really looking for. 345 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: This was the first, like I how I how I 346 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,200 fell into doing what I'm gonna do is just what 347 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,000 happenstance when like I got stuck sitting around digging around 348 00:19:50,079 --> 00:19:52,519 my computer for like thirty minutes when Michael lost internet 349 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:54,400 connection during your show one day and I was waiting 350 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,519 for come back, right, so I just had time to like, 351 00:19:58,319 --> 00:19:59,960 all right, I can't find the one that I'm looking for. 352 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 4: I'm not going to waste the whole time. But basically 353 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,000 there's all. 354 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: Kinds of stuff here, right, and only a few of 355 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:10,920 the projects really like resemble the thing that we're all 356 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:14,400 kind of told in versions one, two, and three of 357 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,000 what you're allowed to believe about what mc ELTRA is. 358 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,240 You know, like that it matches like that kind of story, right, 359 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:24,039 But here I'll give you this a little bit. Now. 360 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,960 I'm not even convinced that MK stands for mind control, 361 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:33,759 because when I've gone digging, I can't find any evidence 362 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:37,759 that that's what MK stands for. Now, the official narrative 363 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,440 is that that it was just a code it has 364 00:20:40,519 --> 00:20:44,440 no meaning, and that it's a like just a code. 365 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,519 Speaker 4: Name for reference for indexing purposes. 366 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: Right. But you know that this is something that everybody 367 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,880 like who studies this, everybody who researches it, everyone who 368 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,400 talks about they're like, oh, yeah, it stands for mind 369 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,200 control and K because it's like after a German word, 370 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:06,480 because this stuff really started in Nazi Germany and. 371 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 4: That so it's like, you know, mind control in like 372 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,079 the German sense. I find no like. Now, again, remember 373 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:14,640 I'm not a. 374 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:17,599 Speaker 3: Big believer in the legitimacy of documents, So it's entirely 375 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,839 possible that it does mean that, but not because any 376 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,119 documents say. 377 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 4: That they were doing mind control. 378 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: But they were pursuing literally hundreds of other things as well. 379 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: And just a. 380 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: Little hint to you as to where I'm going with this, 381 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,720 My overall assumption is I've done like the basics on 382 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:42,039 the entire project, and I'm going to do the deep 383 00:21:42,079 --> 00:21:45,839 dives as I go into each project, is I actually. 384 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,559 Speaker 4: Think they were either trying to. 385 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,599 Speaker 3: Reassemble, reassemble all of the knowledge that of the sort 386 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,720 of rights that were practiced back in the mystery cults 387 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,000 in ancient Greece and all of the Egypt, or even 388 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:05,000 in India and the Orient and stuff like that, right 389 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,200 that they're trying to reassemble all. 390 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: Of that knowledge, or they're trying to. 391 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,279 Speaker 3: Find a way to sort of automate it and mechanize 392 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:18,240 it in modern society so that it can happen outside. 393 00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:19,599 Speaker 4: Of the general awareness of the public. 394 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: Right Like, back in ancient Greece, people knew these cults existed, 395 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,799 and for a while it was kind of open and 396 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,720 accepted and celebrated, and then as things started to trend 397 00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:32,720 in a certain direction, it became more secret and more hidden, 398 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,160 and you got in more trouble if you did it 399 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,079 to the point where it either went completely underground or 400 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,759 seemed to disappear. 401 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,599 Speaker 4: For a period of time. Right Like, let's say that 402 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,519 you know, there's people out there that. 403 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: Recognize that, no, this is actually how we gained knowledge 404 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,160 and wisdom and intelligence and whatnot, So we don't actually 405 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:51,720 want to. 406 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,599 Speaker 4: Get rid of it. 407 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,799 Speaker 3: But we don't necessarily want everybody to have that. So 408 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,880 how do we avail ourselves of all the things necessary 409 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,359 to go out and you know, sort of maintain this 410 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,039 these connections to the intelligent field all around us to 411 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,039 practice these rights, to practice these rituals, right, but kind 412 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:17,720 of do it like, you know, in plain sight without 413 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,720 anybody sort of noticing, right, And a lot of the 414 00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:24,960 things that they undertook seemed to be ways to sort 415 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,000 of allow that to happen on some level, Right, So 416 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,960 I'm proposing I went through a variety of other things 417 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,559 that MK or MC could stand for. I have a 418 00:23:36,599 --> 00:23:38,119 whole list of written in my phone, and I have 419 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,039 my phone right here right now, it's charging the other room. 420 00:23:40,599 --> 00:23:42,759 But at the end of the day, the most likely 421 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,000 thing for me that MK actually stood for is mystery cult. 422 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,880 And each project was being done with a different group 423 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,160 of people at a different location. And so you have 424 00:23:55,559 --> 00:23:59,839 Mystery Cult number one engaging in these practices, Mystery Cult 425 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:02,839 number two engaging in these practices, number. 426 00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:05,039 Speaker 4: Three, number four, number five, number six, Right. 427 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: And you know, one of the things we have is 428 00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:12,279 a supposed end to the MK L stre experiments. Sometime 429 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,640 in the mid seventies, which I don't believe that that 430 00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:19,960 ever necessarily ended. It just went from being something under 431 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:25,279 the control of government through intelligence agencies or military intelligence 432 00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:31,880 out into you know, Raytheon, Boeing, you know, Oracle Corporation, 433 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,519 Sun microsystems, like different sort of military or tech industrial 434 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:42,880 or biopharmaceutical industrial complex type of corporations, right, or like 435 00:24:43,519 --> 00:24:44,440 actual cults. 436 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: Think about how big. 437 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,599 Speaker 3: Cults were in the late sixties early seventies, and right 438 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,240 that period of there was an explosion of cults in 439 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:55,240 the seventies. So if suddenly you had something that was 440 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,839 happening under the umbrella of government, but for whatever reason, 441 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,279 you're not doing that any more. 442 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:01,759 Speaker 4: And the feigned reason might be. 443 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 3: Oh, we got caught, we can't do it, But the 444 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,119 real reason could even be, We've gone as far as 445 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,559 we can with this in a controlled setting. Let's see 446 00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:11,920 what happens if we let it wander off the plantation. 447 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,920 Do we return a different set of information or results or. 448 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:16,519 Speaker 4: Whatever it is? 449 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: Right, And then suddenly you have all of these different 450 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:24,240 cults popping up, right. I mean I remember from my 451 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,039 childhood because I'm a few weeks older than you, that 452 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,680 like every other week you were hearing about this cult 453 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,960 and that cult and what was going on, and these 454 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,200 crazy people who all used to be geniuses moved to 455 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,880 this weird third world country and did this weird thing 456 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,559 and whatever it is, Right, a lot of the shit 457 00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:44,400 sounds pretty close to some of the rituals and ceremonies 458 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,920 that used to be practiced in some of these indigenous 459 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,039 cultures or India's oracular or mystery cults of old. 460 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,759 Speaker 4: What do you think? 461 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,519 Speaker 2: So that kind of plays into what I got an 462 00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:02,559 idea as you were speaking where on this whole topic 463 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,960 of how much can we trust the documents? Are the 464 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:10,519 documents accurate? Are the documents double layered, are they encrypted? 465 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,799 Et cetera, et cetera. And it kind of plays into 466 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,480 the idea that I had where maybe they were running 467 00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:20,960 these programs and on the outside they looked like how 468 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,960 you said, like this mundane sort of thing. But if 469 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,079 it is truly covert, and it is truly black budget, 470 00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:30,799 if you will, you know, to use that term, wouldn't 471 00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,359 it make sense that they could run something in parallel 472 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,440 with that same exact problem at the same time, and 473 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,079 the cover story was the one at the top, and 474 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,960 the real true meaning was the one at the bottom. Now, 475 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,759 where you lose me is when it comes to these 476 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:48,720 ancient rights and rituals. And for the reason for that 477 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:53,480 being is because the more I do research into like 478 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,480 the occult right, because rights, rituals and these secret mystery 479 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,400 schools is a cult. The more I do research to that, 480 00:27:02,319 --> 00:27:05,359 the more information I dig up on the fact that 481 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,039 maybe that was the way that they were able to 482 00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:13,960 collect information, this reconnaissance or you know, intelligence collecting, where 483 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,839 for example, maybe the church when you would give your 484 00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:21,480 Sunday confession. You don't think that they were using that 485 00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:24,759 against people. They were telling them all their deepest, darkest secrets. 486 00:27:24,759 --> 00:27:27,839 It was a controlled state, so you have to literally 487 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:30,759 part of your religion, part of you being able to 488 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:35,240 get saved metaphorically or literally, who knows anymore, right was 489 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,960 to confess your sins, no matter what that was, in 490 00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:42,079 order for you to be absolved or your sins. Hey 491 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,640 see you next Sunday. You don't think that the guys 492 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,480 behind the scenes were reporting to somebody. Think about that? 493 00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:50,000 The watchers, right, we always hear about this, the watchers 494 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,279 and all these things they're watching, you know, they're observing, 495 00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,640 they're collecting information. And when it comes to a lot 496 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,039 of these these governmental entities, I don't think they care 497 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:04,440 if you can summon Cthulhu. I think they care if 498 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,880 you have a certain list or video of some one 499 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,960 of their people. You know, are a person high up 500 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,400 in authority doing something they weren't supposed to be doing 501 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,039 at a time. You weren't. You know, you were at 502 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,200 the wrong place, wrong time, and people turn up dead 503 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,480 because of that. So blackmail is the true occult information, 504 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,200 that's the true FAUSTI impact. 505 00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: Why why does it have to be one or the other? 506 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,480 I think this is a both. I completely agree with you, 507 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,160 but I think this is a both and situation. 508 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,839 Speaker 2: And that's where I'm lost, Emily, because it's like, okay, 509 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,599 so where does the supernatural come into play? Is that 510 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,279 an offshoot and a byproduct of all this fake and 511 00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:44,279 gainess that's pumped into it. Because if you look at 512 00:28:44,319 --> 00:28:49,519 all the early occultists and occult writers, they it's interesting 513 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:52,480 because they were using sat tire. For example, the one 514 00:28:52,519 --> 00:28:54,880 that I've been using lately because I did an episode 515 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,599 on it on the Patreon was Johann Veyer's pseudo Monarchy Demonum. 516 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Where was this Grim Moore of sixty nine demons, and 517 00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,920 it was supposed to instruct you how to summon these demons, 518 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,720 to bend them to your will, you know, using the 519 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:12,960 name of God. But it was a work of sattire. 520 00:29:13,039 --> 00:29:16,240 And then from that work is where the Goeysha came from. 521 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:20,880 So if the original work is a fakery, what does 522 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,000 that make any other work that stems from that original work, 523 00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:27,599 if if it truly was satire, if he wasn't like 524 00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:28,039 you know. 525 00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 4: All right, Okay, I got, I got I commend from. 526 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: Is it possible that a lot of these recorded rights 527 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,160 and rituals are just what you're talking about? 528 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 529 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,559 Speaker 3: However, I have I can't remember. 530 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 4: Have you done drugs or psychedelics or not? 531 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done mushrooms one time, okay, one time? 532 00:29:48,519 --> 00:29:51,519 Speaker 4: All right, I've done thousands. 533 00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: Of hours, all. 534 00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,319 Speaker 4: Right, So let's just go and I have a little 535 00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:57,039 more experience than you. Okay. 536 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: There is an information field there that is different, like right, 537 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,920 So let's just pretend. 538 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: So if you look into the documents. 539 00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:12,119 Speaker 3: They claim to be interested in using all of these psychoactives, 540 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:16,160 so psychoactive substances, at least in some of the projects 541 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,720 to try to gain control of people's minds to influence 542 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:26,240 them towards certain behaviors. Okay, that is certainly something that 543 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,720 can happen when someone is on drugs, but that is 544 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,759 not something that always happens when someone is on drugs. 545 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:39,000 What else happens when someone's on drugs? So if somebody 546 00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:41,799 doesn't do let's just say the idea. I'm totally making 547 00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:43,799 this up on not things as a project. The idea 548 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,599 is to get somebody fully loaded on acid, right on 549 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,799 high potency LSD use psychic driving, which is like repeating 550 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,039 some message over and over and over and over right 551 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,160 in their in their mind, so that then like, and 552 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,440 you pair it with some cue you're giving them, so 553 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,119 that then two weeks later, when they're not acid, you 554 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,240 give them the same cue and it causes them to 555 00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:12,440 do an action. 556 00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:14,079 Speaker 4: That is the same or similar to the one that 557 00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:15,359 you were trying to program. 558 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: Okay, but while you were doing this stuff, while you 559 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,319 were filling them with acid and trying to do all 560 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,480 this stuff, let's say the person is like not really 561 00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:29,160 responding to what you're doing, and instead like they're describing 562 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,920 some other hallucination that they're having or some other thing 563 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,240 that they're thinking about. Okay, all right, you're gonna record 564 00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:43,079 that in your notes. Subject is not, you know, taking 565 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,720 the bait, but subject keeps talking. 566 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:50,599 Speaker 4: About blah blah blah blah blah. Okay, all right, that'll 567 00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:51,000 be there. 568 00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: But we just got the notes about trying to get 569 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,240 so and so to go like rob seven to eleven 570 00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,960 on Tuesday when someone says, when I want a dang 571 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000 don to that or whatever. 572 00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:03,319 Speaker 4: Right, Okay, so let's just say that. 573 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: Ten percent of the people that came into the study 574 00:32:09,839 --> 00:32:12,440 didn't take any of the bait, didn't do any of 575 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,920 the things you asked them to do, right, but described 576 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,880 some structure or some character sitting in the corner of 577 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,079 the room. Ten percent of them all described the same 578 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,240 thing that the tester and the other subjects did not 579 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,279 notice or talk about. Right, but ten percent of the 580 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,880 people there described the exact same thing without having any 581 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,440 interaction with each other. Thirty percent of the people took 582 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,599 the bait and did the manipulated thing you wanted them 583 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,119 to do, and then the other fifty sixty percent like 584 00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:50,559 did nothing. They were confused for a couple of hours 585 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,599 or days, and then they seemed to go back to normal. 586 00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,720 So you have half the there, like half of the 587 00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,559 tests seemed ineffective, right thirty or forty percent, they're more 588 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:04,839 than half thirty percent kind of got did either exactly. 589 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,079 Speaker 4: What you wanted them to do or sort of what 590 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:07,039 you wanted them to do. 591 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: And then there was this other random ten percent that 592 00:33:10,039 --> 00:33:12,359 were different than all of this, but each of them 593 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,519 described the same thing, even though like you hadn't said 594 00:33:14,519 --> 00:33:17,640 anything about that, like there was no connection between them, 595 00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:20,279 Like wouldn't you start to think, well. 596 00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,559 Speaker 4: Like, maybe there is something else here in the room 597 00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,359 that for some reason people can see when they're. 598 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: On acid, but they can't see any other time, and 599 00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:31,039 for some reason, that's more interesting to those people than 600 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,519 all this stimuli we were doing to them over here? 601 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,559 Speaker 4: What is that? 602 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,079 Speaker 3: We're also going to study that next project. So this project, 603 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,200 we're gonna say, this project was number thirty two, and 604 00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:43,160 this thing that they're trying to do, all right, our 605 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,680 next project is gonna be number thirty three. We're gonna 606 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,519 find out what's sitting over there on the corner of 607 00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,480 the room, right, and so that's gonna be the next 608 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:56,039 thing that we study, right, or maybe we're not even 609 00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,440 gonna name that. We're gonna say this is project thirty 610 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,599 two Ay, and there's going to be thought project thirty 611 00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:04,279 two B. But we're not going to talk about Project 612 00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:06,559 thirty two B. What's the first rule of fight club? 613 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,079 Speaker 2: What fight club? 614 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,199 Speaker 4: Right there? 615 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: You go, Okay, So the paperwork is all going to 616 00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,920 reflect this thing. There's a portion of this that didn't work, 617 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,280 a portion that work that seems normal for an experiment. 618 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,679 Speaker 4: We're not telling anybody about this for right now. 619 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,199 Speaker 2: So the deviations in the patterns is what they were 620 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:25,639 looking for, essentially. 621 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,119 Speaker 3: Whether it was their intention when they started out, or 622 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,719 whether that became something that they noticed as they went along, 623 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,639 Like there's no way that someone wasn't like, well, we 624 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:39,559 started out trying to do this and that partially worked, 625 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:41,920 but we discovered this other thing along the way that 626 00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:44,679 is actually more interesting. And what's weird about all of 627 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,159 that stuff, right is about all of the stuff that 628 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,599 is not really talked about or not reported is all 629 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:57,679 the stuff that equals you know, remote viewing, time travel, 630 00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:02,360 psychic you know, intuition, divination, all of this other stuff, 631 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,199 which if they had done any research on the drugs 632 00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:07,840 they were trying they were using, they would. 633 00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,159 Speaker 4: Have known that that's part of the history of the drugs. 634 00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: So then that also tagues me to the place where 635 00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:13,960 I can't possibly believe. 636 00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 4: That they didn't know that that wasn't not only possible 637 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,920 but probable. 638 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,199 Speaker 3: So you want to conduct experiments to see what humans 639 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,440 are capable of, right, But unfortunately funding usually comes from 640 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:33,559 places that have a military or financial or technological advantage 641 00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,519 position that they can gain by funding it. 642 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,679 Speaker 4: So we're gonna offer up part of. 643 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 3: The tests the experiment here to be yeared that way 644 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,639 so we can get funding, but secretly in the after hours. 645 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 4: What we're really curious about is how far out does 646 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,400 the human mind and potential go. Where's the information on that? 647 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 3: Like I have never it is impossible that they only 648 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,559 got information that either was a nothing burger, was like 649 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,840 psycho schizophrenia stuff, or well, I think schizophrenia is actually intelligence, 650 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,480 So I'm not going to say like that. But sometimes 651 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,639 it's just babbling nonsense, and sometimes there's. 652 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 4: A syntex to that nonsense that. 653 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,079 Speaker 3: Informs you that there's something really there. But it's impossible 654 00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:20,679 that they only either got the information they wanted or 655 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,320 unuseful information. There has to have been another group of 656 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,800 information that was interesting but not the point of what the. 657 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 4: Paper said it was supposed to be. Where's that information? 658 00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see where you're going with it. And is 659 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:40,519 there a parallel? If not? If not, where are you 660 00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:43,440 living in it? But like a parallel or a continuation 661 00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:47,440 of MKLTR like a modern day mkultr Or do you 662 00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:48,639 think we are living in it? 663 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,039 Speaker 3: So I think we are living in it, but we're 664 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:56,079 living in it to various degrees. Like at a certain point, 665 00:36:56,159 --> 00:37:00,119 I think all of this knowledge got separated out to 666 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:05,599 different industries, different cultures, and different subcultures. 667 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 4: And some of it was just like p We all. 668 00:37:09,199 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: Understand the usefulness of propaganda or the damage of propaganda, 669 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,920 depending on your perspective. If you had a new widget 670 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,280 and you could come up with some way to get 671 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,000 everybody to buy your widget, especially if it wasn't that 672 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:25,280 harmful overall, you'd probably deploy it. If it was harmful 673 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,280 to propagandaize these people way, if you were a six buck, 674 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,199 you might still consider it, But if it was useless, 675 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,079 you wouldn't do it. Right, So we all understand the 676 00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:37,360 role that propaganda plays. But I'm taking a look as 677 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,519 I've been working on this series, and I've been worked 678 00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:44,960 with someone who has like that's not going to be 679 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,360 on the series with me, but it's helping you some 680 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,880 of the aesthetics for the series. 681 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:55,679 Speaker 4: That has really caused me to explore what. 682 00:37:55,519 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 3: It is I'm really doing here and why I'm doing this, 683 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:01,639 And I'm starting to understand myself to an even a 684 00:38:01,679 --> 00:38:04,320 higher degree than I thought I already did. And I 685 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,360 recognize that the two main driving influences of my adult 686 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,280 life has been my research into m k Ultra and 687 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,519 my understanding of an attachment I had to that phenomenon 688 00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:18,719 from my childhood right and my time in the underground 689 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,559 dance music scene, and that these two things are very similar. 690 00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:25,119 Speaker 4: And so I'm going to say that a lot. 691 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 3: Of these projects were exported from government or corporate laboratories 692 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,559 into the subculture of the underground dance music scene in 693 00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:40,679 Los Angeles and Berlin and London at varying levels. There's huge, 694 00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:46,960 massive festivals that's Walmart, right. There's sort of like local chains. 695 00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:53,519 That's your fucking grocery store, right. There are like clubs 696 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,400 which are kind of just like your corner bar, and 697 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,559 then there's deep underground parties where you're having all sorts 698 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:05,719 of like weird counterculture stuff that most people aren't even 699 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:11,159 aware of. But all of this is centered around optical stimulation, 700 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:17,119 auditory stimulation chemicals, and then the physiology and genetics of 701 00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:20,280 the people who are attending, and what is the experience 702 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,480 that they have when they take this chemical and you 703 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:26,280 expose them to the stimuli. And if you look at 704 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,599 what they were doing in the projects, they were exposing 705 00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:36,719 people to neurological, auditory and optical stimuli under certain conditions, 706 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,320 usually involving some type of drug or some way of 707 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,599 altering their central nervous system, and seeing what their response 708 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,119 was and whether the response could be useful in a 709 00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:54,159 weaponized fashion, or whether the response could be useful in 710 00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:59,000 gaining intelligence that isn't available in our three D sort 711 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,239 of reality. But is they at hyperspace sort of waiting 712 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,280 to be discovered. It's like that frequency band not yet 713 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,519 completely tuned into. 714 00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:10,639 Speaker 4: But but is there? Right is? It's always there? 715 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 3: And so to me and I don't what I'm saying 716 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,320 by this is not like there's there you have like 717 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,719 when you get into these topics, you usually. 718 00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:22,599 Speaker 4: Have two different camps. 719 00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 3: Right is the rave scene totally organic and just at 720 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:35,400 a certain point was infiltrated or manipulated or commercialized by 721 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:37,400 people that we would consider. 722 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 2: Who started that scene? Is there an origin as to 723 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,360 who started that scene? Because it seems like everything is 724 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,840 all about collecting intelligence nowadays and trying to Right. 725 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,679 Speaker 3: There's a there's a there's like a simultaneous popping up 726 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,039 of it at a few different sort of locations, right, 727 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,800 And you know, so the two camps, though, are everything 728 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920 is like planted, contrived and controlled in the very beginning 729 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,119 in the other campus, like no, it's organic and unfortunately 730 00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:06,119 bad seeds make their way into it and steer it 731 00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,440 one way or the other. And for me it's just 732 00:41:08,519 --> 00:41:11,880 kind of like everything is everything, Like everything is just 733 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,400 sort of like a mixture. 734 00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 4: And a hodgepodge. 735 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 3: And within a totally controlled and contrived creation, you can 736 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,480 also find these organic occurrences that weren't expected. And with 737 00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:25,880 something that was completely and totally organic, you could have 738 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:29,480 something show up that distorts and changes the whole trajectory 739 00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:30,400 of what was going on. 740 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,280 Speaker 4: Right. So on some levels, to me, it's like the 741 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,079 wrong question. 742 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 3: It's understanding what is the environment, what are the stimuli, 743 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:45,280 and what are the sort of insights observations and reactions 744 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,960 of the participants and that goes for everything we experience 745 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,880 in reality on. 746 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 4: Some level, right, And so when you go and you look. 747 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,039 Speaker 3: At like I remember going on like the rave chat 748 00:41:58,159 --> 00:42:00,280 boards back like in the late nineties, it is like 749 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,360 when the internet was kind of new, right, and the 750 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,440 rave scene was in full kick. 751 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,519 Speaker 4: You know. Now we have something kind of different. 752 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: We have like a club scene, a festival scene, in 753 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,960 an underground scene, but we used. 754 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 4: To just have like a rave scene. 755 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 3: And you could go to these chatboards and people would 756 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,079 talk about their experiences with this pill or this asset 757 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,119 or this cademy or whatever, their trip reports and that 758 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,039 their party reports, and the party reports would be like 759 00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:29,280 I took this pill, I heard this DJ, I had 760 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,199 this experience, think about this. 761 00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:33,119 Speaker 4: This would be not any. 762 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,639 Speaker 3: Different than being in a laboratory putting someone on drugs. 763 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,679 Speaker 4: Playing sounds for them and then asking them what it 764 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,960 makes them see or think about or whatever. But these people. 765 00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:46,119 Speaker 3: Are doing it voluntarily and out there in the real world, 766 00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:49,119 not in a controlled setting, so you're actually gaining more 767 00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:52,920 intelligence from that. It's actually more useful because how many 768 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,119 times in your life are you at a completely controlled 769 00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:58,440 setting where there's no like unexpected variable that can happen 770 00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:01,719 not very many, Like a rock could come through the 771 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,599 window in your office. 772 00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:09,119 Speaker 2: Right now, what year did the so the internet as 773 00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:15,800 we know it officially began nineteen eighty three and mcultra 774 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,199 ended in nineteen seventy three. Because it's making me think 775 00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:23,800 of like how you're saying it's the same thing, just 776 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,840 packaged differently, and that makes a lot of sense, Like right, 777 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,920 like that's crazy, right that now you're just it's an oh, 778 00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:36,599 now they're free range chickens. Now that they're that's exactly it. 779 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,079 Speaker 3: Yes, right, we had the chickens in the pen, and 780 00:43:40,119 --> 00:43:42,559 then we realize people will pay more for the eggs 781 00:43:42,639 --> 00:43:45,920 if they're fucking the egg grass. 782 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:48,599 Speaker 2: And ran around and were happy, which kind of doesn't 783 00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:53,719 make sense because like so, for example, I use butcher box, right, 784 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,440 and I get my meat butcher box, and I was 785 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,079 sitting down with my wife more like, Okay, we spend 786 00:43:59,079 --> 00:44:02,039 this much on butcher but if we go to Sam's Club, right, 787 00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:06,119 the big wig store, the wholesale store, we get a 788 00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:12,960 lot more for less. Okay, So, like our dilemma is 789 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:17,199 do we keep it this organic, free range grass fed 790 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,679 like it's got all the key words to make you 791 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,800 feel some type of way. And I look there and go, 792 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,039 so do we keep it? Do we go with this 793 00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:28,360 other brand? Maybe it's pumped full of a whole bunch 794 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,840 of stuff that we don't know about. That's what we've 795 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,119 been told, right, that it's modified. They put a whole 796 00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:36,840 bunch of hormones and stuff into it, makes the you know, 797 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,840 the little girls get into puberty quicker, et cetera. So 798 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,039 all this sort of stuff, or do we go with 799 00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:47,079 this other stuff that allegedly is free range, is one 800 00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:49,840 of the ones grass fed and all these other things, 801 00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:52,760 And like they make you peek between the and so 802 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,360 we decided to keep the butcher box. I'm like, if 803 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,800 it is worth it in the long run, then so 804 00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:01,880 be it. I'd rather pay a little bit more for 805 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,920 that versus this other option over here, because it's like 806 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,239 they're making you pick between the two lesser evils. The 807 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,880 other one might be bullshit, and we're willing to pay 808 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,800 more even though we understand it might be bullshit. But 809 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,320 you're still gambling the chance that it's not bullshit. So 810 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,079 you stick with it, and you pay more for it, 811 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,840 and you eliminate the other one. Right, that's fucked up. 812 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean this is this is like, well think 813 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,559 don't think about the scam of like the idea of 814 00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:35,239 organic like and they think people are who are weird 815 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,639 who want to have all organic. No, it should be 816 00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:40,119 weird to want to have vegetables with chemicals on them. 817 00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,199 In the sixties or the fifties, all vegetables in the 818 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,199 market were organic. 819 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 4: They were all organic. 820 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 3: And now you're a fucking weirdo with a little like 821 00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:51,039 area this small over here where they organic vegetables. 822 00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:54,079 Speaker 4: Right, So it's a lot of this sort. 823 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,039 Speaker 3: Of just changing the jurisdiction of what people think they're 824 00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:59,639 dealing with. But the same kind of but as far 825 00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:02,159 as box goes, I used to have butcher box, right. 826 00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:04,599 I don't actually really like them meat and butcher box 827 00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:09,760 that much. I've I've experienced with a variety of local ranchers, 828 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,239 grass fed ranchers, grass fed, corn finished ranchers, this, that 829 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,880 and the other thing. But we did have butcher box 830 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,840 during the pandemic because we just wanted to make sure 831 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,400 we could get our thing right. I don't think the 832 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,800 butcher box tastes that amazing. But you know what is 833 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,760 amazing at butcher box, they have these pork butts that 834 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,639 make the best fucking carnitas ever. 835 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 4: Laura used to make carnitas all the time. 836 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,639 Speaker 3: If you get the fucking pork butt, I'll give you 837 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,000 Laura's carnetas recipe. 838 00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 4: They're fucking delicious. But I could live without the rest 839 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,360 of the butcher box. But go. 840 00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 3: We live in Texas though, where there's like no shortage 841 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,639 of local grass fed ranchers. 842 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:47,639 Speaker 2: There's next option and all that. 843 00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 4: Kind of stuff. 844 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,039 Speaker 3: Right, but this is but here, here's the point is 845 00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:56,559 like we like we have got to come to the 846 00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:01,639 understanding that we are the worse of everything that they're 847 00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:02,280 interested in. 848 00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:05,599 Speaker 4: We are endlessly fascinating to the day. 849 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 3: Okay, like people who are concerned that they want to 850 00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:13,400 like wipe out half the human population, No, they don't. 851 00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:19,159 There we are the resources for the technologies and the 852 00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:24,599 achievements that they're hoping to gain. Right, genetics are like 853 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,320 all of the new tech has to do with DNA, RNA, mRNA, 854 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,519 you know, different kinds of you know, like you know, 855 00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:40,719 different ways of storing information on and in people's bodies. Right, 856 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:46,719 they're literally using custom DNA strands to help construct you know, 857 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,320 fusion reactors that won't get too hot, so you can 858 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,719 actually have the benefits of a fusion, which is supposed 859 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,639 to be an overunity type of energy. Right, But if 860 00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:58,880 you have to spend all this money cooling them down, 861 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,320 then it makes it not profitable. Our DNA is really 862 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,480 good at coding for certain kinds of carbon lattice types 863 00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:10,079 of things that are super conductive, so things can get 864 00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:11,880 hot and stay cold at the same time. 865 00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 2: Right, So wetwear like this wetwear technology that they're so 866 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,199 this is a real. 867 00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 3: Thing, right, So like that Also, people have been brainwashed 868 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,239 into thinking that our minds and our bodies work like computers. 869 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,679 We think we're real smart when we get a download, 870 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,800 but no, all of the technology is like mimics of 871 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,880 the human mind and body and things that we do 872 00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:41,079 or things that the larger Earth or planet or universe 873 00:48:41,159 --> 00:48:45,039 or whatever do. Like the human mind is one of 874 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:47,559 the greatest computers ever, and all the things that we 875 00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:50,400 have on our desk are just extensions of that. 876 00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 4: Right where I just started reading. I've had this book. 877 00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 3: For like a number of years, and I started at 878 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,679 once a couple of years ago, but then that got 879 00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:02,280 distracted and now we're in it. 880 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,559 Speaker 4: The programming and meta programming in The Human Supercomputer by 881 00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:05,920 John C. 882 00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 3: Lilly, Right, and it's you know, it's really interesting to 883 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,480 sort of listen to him, you know, break this down 884 00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:17,280 back in the sixties and seventies before we had the 885 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:23,559 like modern lingo about computer and programming and tech and whatever. Right, 886 00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:29,880 you know, So I think, like, we're the greatest resource 887 00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:31,559 on Earth. 888 00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:36,800 Speaker 4: Right. People think that it's maybe some rare. 889 00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 3: Mineral in the ground, you know, in like East Africa 890 00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:45,840 somewhere or something like that. But that mineral is only 891 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,320 interested when you see how the human interesting, when you 892 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,639 see how the humans interact with it, right, Like if 893 00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:54,840 it's just the mineral, like those were those things were 894 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,440 there before we got here, and nothing interesting was happening 895 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,119 with them until we came and started interacting with it. 896 00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've always existed, right, So like they've always 897 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,800 been there. It's just I think, I think the aspect 898 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,440 of the human experience, right, this idea, because you hear 899 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,320 this a lot in the Conspiracy where I'm like, oh, 900 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,119 they want to wipe us all out, they want to 901 00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:15,840 take everybody out like all that. I'm like, why would 902 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,960 they do that? They still need people. Let's say that 903 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,800 there is a day, right, that there is this cabal, 904 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,880 which I believe there is a people in higher ups 905 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,719 that have more amounts of power than the people below 906 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,960 them one hundred percent. We know that there's a hierarchy, 907 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,559 but I'm like, for the people up top, they're not 908 00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:33,920 going to be mowing their lawns, right, they need the 909 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,920 people who are going to mow their lawn They need 910 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,000 the gophers. Got I just did a breakdown with Narcolango 911 00:50:40,119 --> 00:50:43,320 on Caddy Shack and kind of sort of what that 912 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,320 movie represented. And a gopher is a person who does 913 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,239 like menial tasks, like mundane task, like dumb work if 914 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,800 you will, right, And so they they're always going to 915 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,079 need the gophers. So why would they kill off the 916 00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:58,000 gophers if they need wh Right? That movie is about 917 00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:01,039 killing off the gopher. They need them at the end 918 00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:03,559 of the day. So if everything does go downhill, why 919 00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:05,719 would they eliminate the first people who are going to 920 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,320 be in the in the trenches doing the work. That 921 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,159 never made any sense to me, but people are so 922 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,280 convinced that that's what they're after. 923 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,679 Speaker 4: All Right, let's take this one step further. 924 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 3: Okay, I think a lot of like, we have a 925 00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:21,440 hierarchy and a power structure that like on some levels 926 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,440 we understand, but like on other levels, a lot of 927 00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:28,039 is like we're blind to it because the people that 928 00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:31,559 we see your Elon Musks, your George Soros, your Peter 929 00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:37,599 Teel or whatever, like, they're like there's people above them 930 00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:40,679 that we're not aware of that ever seen by anyone else. 931 00:51:40,679 --> 00:51:45,119 Speaker 4: So we don't know what their capabilities are. We don't know. 932 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,119 Speaker 3: We don't know if they're interdimensional. We don't know if 933 00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:51,440 they're hyper intelligent. We don't know if they're just fucking 934 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,320 big and burley and so they're able to bully. 935 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 4: We don't know what that is, right, but we know 936 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,400 that we have this. 937 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 3: Like like paranoid class that I would consider all of 938 00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:04,880 these people, these Bill Gates, George Soros, Elon mus Peter 939 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,239 Tiel is like a really unimpressive lizard who's obsessed with 940 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,840 collecting everybody's data. That's like what he's mostly concerned with. 941 00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:13,559 That's what really. 942 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 4: All of do you think about? 943 00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 3: Like it's like this sort of middleman syndrome, Like right, 944 00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:21,360 like if you look into like people who are like 945 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,559 Hollywood agents and things like that, right, they like they're 946 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,480 they're good at networking, they're good at doing deals, but 947 00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:30,920 they don't have the talent of the athlete or the 948 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,480 actor or anything like that. So they serve as this 949 00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:38,960 like middleman between the public and this talented person, and 950 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,119 they sort of expand that middleman position into as much 951 00:52:45,159 --> 00:52:48,199 profit as they can, right, And oftentimes you have a 952 00:52:48,199 --> 00:52:50,159 middleman who makes a lot more money than. 953 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 4: The person who's the talent. 954 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,639 Speaker 3: And so you know, all of these middleman industries and 955 00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:59,679 then these data control industries are all like largely based, 956 00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:02,840 in my opinion, on a lot of like control freakishness 957 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,159 and a lot of paranoia. 958 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,760 Speaker 4: Right, so. 959 00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 3: Now back to your your your point about gophers. You 960 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,559 don't want to get rid of the gophers because you 961 00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:14,719 don't want to have to mow your own lawn. But 962 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,199 you know what's even better if the fucking person that 963 00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,079 you hire to be your gopher and mow your lawn 964 00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:25,320 has like a hormone or a chemical that they secrete 965 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,039 in their sweat that is going to be the gas 966 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,039 for the fucking portal that you want to owe. The 967 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:35,519 gas that like permeates the membrane or whatever it is, 968 00:53:35,559 --> 00:53:38,280 the thing that that or the thing that makes. 969 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 4: The machine go. 970 00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 3: And so he thinks he's coming over to do your 971 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,039 dirty work. But what he's really gonna and you appreciate 972 00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:46,880 that he does your law and that needs to get 973 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,400 done due, but really anyone could do it. But what 974 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,440 he's really coming over for is to like leave a 975 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,639 DNA sample on the handle of your fucking lawnmower that 976 00:53:55,679 --> 00:54:00,760 you'll gladly collect afterwards put into a centrifuge, right and 977 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,159 and accelerate into copies and more and more and more 978 00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:06,519 and more, right and then and then you're gonna get 979 00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:08,159 Did you ever see Jupiter Ascending? 980 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,159 Speaker 2: Remember that movie started and never finished it? 981 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 3: Okay, like she's like the cleaning lady at the office 982 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,000 building or whatever. But there's literally an entire universe that 983 00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:20,880 is powered off virginetics. 984 00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:23,159 Speaker 2: How much of that do you think is real? Though? 985 00:54:23,159 --> 00:54:25,840 When you when you talk about portals, Emily, how much 986 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,159 of it is like an actual portal? How we see 987 00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:30,079 in like Rick and Morty that opens up a rioff 988 00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:32,960 and space and time or what's your definition of a portal? 989 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,239 Because we always we throw this word around a lot. 990 00:54:35,679 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 3: At this point, like what the way I see things 991 00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:41,000 more is that there's like there's not like all of 992 00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:45,320 these plate places far away both in time and in space. 993 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,320 It's kind of like everything everywhere at once. Everything's happening 994 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,800 here now at different frequency bands. So it's like you 995 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,400 have one radio, but it tunes into thousands of stations, right, 996 00:54:57,519 --> 00:55:00,480 And the higher power your radio is, the more stations 997 00:55:00,519 --> 00:55:03,119 that can tune into, and the better located you are, 998 00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:05,000 the more stations you can turn into. 999 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 4: And all that kind of stuff. 1000 00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 2: Right. 1001 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 3: So what I think we have here is that, like 1002 00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:15,199 imagine if you imagine each frequency band as being a 1003 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:20,079 room in a hotel, and your genetics are the key 1004 00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:24,519 to the room that is assigned to you, okay, and 1005 00:55:25,519 --> 00:55:29,000 and there's a manager of the hotel, and like the 1006 00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:32,800 janitor might have keys to all of them. But there's 1007 00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:38,360 some people that have a more sort of flexible genetics spread, 1008 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,800 let's put it that way, that they can they can 1009 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:47,320 like a special I don't know if this comes from 1010 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,920 just they have something in their genetics that is good 1011 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:55,599 at frequency matching, right, or that they have so many 1012 00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:59,079 things in their genetics, which could possibly be why they're 1013 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:03,280 for all of this, like immigration and interracial marriages and 1014 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,519 all this kind of stuff, because they're trying to create 1015 00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:10,039 new combination lock combinations to different frequency bands, like they're 1016 00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:13,559 trying to access rooms that haven't found the key yet 1017 00:56:13,559 --> 00:56:17,199 for right, Okay, So like I think that some people 1018 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,519 might have a more broad base for that based on 1019 00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:24,039 lots of different genetics, or you may just have like 1020 00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:27,480 that like miracle molecule or that miracle atom or the 1021 00:56:27,519 --> 00:56:31,559 miracle whatever. There might be some some precious metal, you know, 1022 00:56:31,679 --> 00:56:34,960 trace metal in your in your Maybe it's ruthenium, because 1023 00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:39,440 ruthenium is super conductive, right, So superconductive, it can levitate, 1024 00:56:39,519 --> 00:56:40,840 it can move through things. 1025 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,039 Speaker 4: It has low electrical resistance, which. 1026 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 3: Things means more things can pass through it without causing 1027 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,880 it to come apart. Right, it can maintain its integrity. 1028 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,760 So so this is what So if you look at 1029 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,760 what's going on here with Oracle Corporation, remember like day 1030 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,159 two or day one of Trump administed, he gets up 1031 00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:04,400 there with Sam Altman and Larry Ellison and Larry Ellison 1032 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:11,440 announces Project Stargate, which is going to make uniquely designed 1033 00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:16,760 cancer vaccine mRNA cancer vaccines in twenty four hours for people. 1034 00:57:17,159 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 4: Right using was using AI, using Sam Altman's open AI. 1035 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,679 Speaker 3: Right at this, you know facility in Texas which happens 1036 00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:28,760 to be in an area where there's you know, like 1037 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,280 a cyclotron or a particle accelerator or you know type 1038 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,400 of stuff. Okay, So Larry Ellison owns Oracle Corporation, which 1039 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,960 grew out of Oracle, a project called Oracle. 1040 00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:42,119 Speaker 4: That was within the CIA. 1041 00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 3: It was a project in the CIA, and then it 1042 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,519 moved out became a corporation, right. And one of the 1043 00:57:49,559 --> 00:57:54,199 things that they have been really a huge part of 1044 00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:57,159 his a trying to get and store as many medical 1045 00:57:57,199 --> 00:58:00,920 records and things like that as possible. He's obsessed with 1046 00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:05,679 data collection, particularly when it comes to health in genetics. Okay, 1047 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,760 Now he is saying that this new project to create 1048 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,480 a database of people's you know, genetics, is to help 1049 00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:20,000 create mRNA vaccines to prevent cancer, and that right, there'll 1050 00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:21,119 be a unique one. 1051 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 4: Made for each person. 1052 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 3: But in order to do that, you'd have to connect 1053 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,159 collect everybody's genetics. 1054 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,719 Speaker 4: Okay. Have you heard of Project Stargate, the. 1055 00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:33,199 Speaker 3: Other project Stargate, Like it's the same project, my friend, 1056 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,079 Do you know what Stargate is? 1057 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 2: I've heard of? Is it the one we're remote viewing? 1058 00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 3: It's it has to do with remote viewing and teleportation. Okay, 1059 00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:45,840 So to me, This is a tacit admission out in 1060 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,960 the open that the key to remote viewing and teleportation 1061 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,440 is genetics. 1062 00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:54,239 Speaker 4: And so we're gonna, right, we're going to. 1063 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,719 Speaker 3: Collect all their genetics and we're going to use it 1064 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,599 to open all the rooms in the hotel and for 1065 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,280 and we're going to give them just a key to 1066 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,559 their specific room. 1067 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 4: I e. 1068 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 3: We're going to let them have the cancer vaccine so 1069 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,000 that they don't or whatever it is. 1070 00:59:08,159 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 4: Right, you see where I'm going with this. 1071 00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:12,119 Speaker 2: I see, yeah, I see where you're going with it. 1072 00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:15,639 And it's just making me think of, like, this is 1073 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,559 very because if you look up what an oracle is, 1074 00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:22,360 which is interesting, right, a priest or priestess acting as 1075 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,480 a medium through whom advice or prophecy was sought from 1076 00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:29,840 the gods in classical antiquity, and. 1077 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,280 Speaker 3: What is another name for some of these mystery cults 1078 00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:37,440 oracular cults. There were cults based around a member of 1079 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,239 the cult that was the oracle. Right, go listen to 1080 00:59:41,239 --> 00:59:45,039 Almendhilman talking about oracular priestesses and oracular cults. 1081 00:59:45,199 --> 00:59:46,599 Speaker 2: That was my next thing I was going to bring 1082 00:59:46,679 --> 00:59:50,199 up because right in a Pallanteer in j R. R. 1083 00:59:50,239 --> 00:59:55,679 Tolkien's The Stone is a powerful, indestructible crystal ball used 1084 00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:59,239 for communication and seeing events in distant places or the past. 1085 00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 3: So now we're rid of Bill Gates and George Soros, 1086 01:00:03,039 --> 01:00:04,920 but we have an oracle and a sea. 1087 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,599 Speaker 4: And a Palentiner. 1088 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah with the with the Maga party, which is witches 1089 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,079 in Latin, right like that. 1090 01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 4: There you go, there you go. 1091 01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 2: So but here's the thing. This is why I'm leaning 1092 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,199 more towards like is the occult like a real phenomenon? 1093 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,400 Wheen and by the occult I'm talking about like you 1094 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,039 know what Amon Hillman talks about where it's like, oh, 1095 01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:30,639 they're christing these certain people, and it's almost making me 1096 01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:34,480 think of like when you think of the of the 1097 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,239 what's the da Vinci thing, the cup, the chalice, the 1098 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,000 child Yeah, the childice, but the other one, what do 1099 01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:47,400 they call it? The damn it man the holy Grail? 1100 01:00:47,559 --> 01:00:53,199 When the holy everyone automatically thinks about like a cup 1101 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,239 or a childice, right, Like that's the first thing that comes. 1102 01:00:55,519 --> 01:00:58,639 What if it's a person, Like what if how you're saying, 1103 01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:01,000 what if this is all this whole wet weear thing, 1104 01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:04,320 what if it's actual people? What have they're the portals. 1105 01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:05,719 What does that mean? 1106 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:06,719 Speaker 4: What else? 1107 01:01:06,719 --> 01:01:11,559 Speaker 3: Did Am and Helen say Jesus Christ use children as drugs? Right, 1108 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:18,079 they would use their body as a synthesizer of particular chemical. Right, 1109 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,880 So this is think about that if if it is 1110 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:28,239 figured out that like, okay, you get Emily all excited, 1111 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,280 you get her hyped up on psychedelics and mathemphetamines, and 1112 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,199 then you get her like all excited, and that adrenaline 1113 01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:41,960 that she gives off could either a create a unique 1114 01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:45,480 kind of a specific unique to Emily type of agrina 1115 01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:49,000 chrome that's active for a short period of time, or 1116 01:01:49,159 --> 01:01:53,199 she can just secrete a chemical or a hormone or 1117 01:01:53,239 --> 01:01:58,719 a pheromone, right, that could be captured or used for 1118 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,639 whatever it is, and then maybe. 1119 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:03,599 Speaker 4: They'll try and get high off of that. 1120 01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:06,119 Speaker 3: If you've watched the Congress, they take drugs to turn 1121 01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:08,480 into each other, right, Like they want to see what 1122 01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:09,400 it feels like to be. 1123 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 4: One, so they take a lot of drug. Yeah, it's 1124 01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:13,480 a great I've talked, I've brought it up to you 1125 01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:14,320 a number of times. 1126 01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 3: You should watch the movie of Congress because that's like 1127 01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:17,679 really kind of where. 1128 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:21,719 Speaker 4: We're at in a lot of ways. Right, okay, so so, 1129 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,119 but you know, part of like with all. 1130 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,519 Speaker 3: Of these sort of cults that were based around priestesses 1131 01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:33,000 or or like oracles or whatever it is, it's a 1132 01:02:33,119 --> 01:02:39,159 different stimuli for each person who possesses those capabilities that 1133 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,360 is going to get them to extend, whether that is, 1134 01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:46,760 separate from their body and go out into the you know, 1135 01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:47,400 the the. 1136 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 4: Ionic life, which. 1137 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 3: Is outside of the time stream or whatever it is, 1138 01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:56,440 or to penetrate the membrane into the next dimension of 1139 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,639 however you're thinking about it. 1140 01:02:58,119 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 4: For some people, they have to be scared. 1141 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,159 Speaker 3: They're scared, and then that jacks them up, and then 1142 01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:05,760 they're sort of outside of their body or outside of 1143 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,559 their normal frame of mind and connecting with another field 1144 01:03:08,599 --> 01:03:10,960 of intelligence than the one they're generally sort. 1145 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,639 Speaker 4: Of sitting in. For other people, it's something else for 1146 01:03:13,719 --> 01:03:16,360 other people, like scaring them shuts them down. 1147 01:03:16,679 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 3: For some people, like you have to stimulate them with 1148 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,840 something that they really like, right, Like for me, like 1149 01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:25,280 you know, put on the techno, wind me up and 1150 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,280 watch me go and I'm gonna come back with all 1151 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,760 kinds of kooky ideas, weird experiences, stories, things like that. 1152 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 4: For some people, they get into that when they're. 1153 01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 3: Scared, or when they're turned on sexually or right, it's 1154 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,679 a different thing that acts as the catalyst or the 1155 01:03:40,719 --> 01:03:44,719 stimulus for different people to reach out beyond themselves and 1156 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:49,320 bring something back. Right, everyone is motivated by something different, 1157 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:54,280 So you'll have a combination of hormones and genetics and 1158 01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:00,159 pheromones and stimulation and possibly drugs and rituals that like, 1159 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:05,800 especially if you're practicing rituals and rights that have gone 1160 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:10,599 back generations in your family that holds this symbolic significance 1161 01:04:11,079 --> 01:04:14,199 in your group or in your own mind or whatever 1162 01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:16,159 it is, right, So that can be part of the 1163 01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:20,280 cocktail there as well. So I think that there's a 1164 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,440 truth to the occult, But I also think that at 1165 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,960 a certain point there's been lots of people who have 1166 01:04:27,079 --> 01:04:30,320 recognized that, like, you can use this to control people, 1167 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,639 to manipulate people, to scam people, to make people think things. 1168 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 4: Are going on that aren't really going on. 1169 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 3: But the main message I take is that there's really 1170 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,920 nothing new in the world. People have been engaging in 1171 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:47,119 dynamic experiences that include drugs, sex, music, all of that 1172 01:04:47,239 --> 01:04:52,280 kind of stuff since the beginning of time that connects 1173 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:57,519 us to other intelligence in our environment that exists at 1174 01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:02,440 a different frequency than we do, and that there's information there, 1175 01:05:03,159 --> 01:05:06,159 and the idea that that's not true is a lie. 1176 01:05:06,519 --> 01:05:09,960 But the idea that there has to be like some weird, crazy, 1177 01:05:10,519 --> 01:05:14,000 you know, combination of practices to attain it and that's 1178 01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:16,639 the only way it can be done is also not true. 1179 01:05:16,679 --> 01:05:20,199 It leaves this like huge vast area for manipulation in 1180 01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:23,920 between those two truths. Right, So if you if if 1181 01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,280 I invited you over to my house and we just 1182 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,559 turned the lights off and laid down on the floor 1183 01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:33,719 here and ate mushrooms and just told each other what 1184 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,320 we were thinking about the whole time, or didn't talk 1185 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,000 and then told each other after what we thought about. 1186 01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:43,400 Or if I played certain music and it made us 1187 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,599 think about certain things and we talked about that, like 1188 01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,679 it's it's a it's a format of doing the same thing. 1189 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,440 Speaker 4: Maybe it's not. 1190 01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 3: As you know, the more people are involved, the more 1191 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,199 grand the scenario, the more sort of factors there are 1192 01:05:57,239 --> 01:05:58,320 at play. 1193 01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 4: But you know, all. 1194 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 3: The things that we call drugs come from the earth, 1195 01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:07,920 like whether it's directly naturally from the ground, or whether 1196 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,480 it's taken into a lab and done something to to 1197 01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:15,360 synthesize it, or to accentuate certain properties and nullify others, 1198 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:16,199 or vice versa. 1199 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 4: Right, it's basically there's something that the earth. 1200 01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,719 Speaker 3: Produced that is the key to a door that unlocks 1201 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,079 certain information that is true about being here in this world. 1202 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,719 Speaker 2: What interests me most, Right, So they're being inspired, which 1203 01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:37,599 inspiration right from a breathe into to infuse animation or influence, 1204 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,039 especially by divine influence. So how you're saying, maybe perhaps 1205 01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:47,280 there are techniques to achieve this said thing, right, which 1206 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,280 the sad thing is the extraction of the magical essence 1207 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,199 or something or other. Right, there's a ritual for that, 1208 01:06:53,199 --> 01:06:54,280 there's certain things for that. 1209 01:06:54,519 --> 01:06:54,679 Speaker 4: Well. 1210 01:06:54,719 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 2: Interests me the most about Hillman's work is not again, 1211 01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:00,800 I know, he's very polarizing with everything that he says. 1212 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,360 He says a lot of crazy shit. But the one 1213 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,480 thing that really interests me about his work is that 1214 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:13,400 he's kind of sort of proving this long running conspiracy 1215 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,639 of right, the whole frazzle drip adrino chrome sort of thing, 1216 01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:22,320 because it falls along those lines, and people people automatically, 1217 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:23,960 as soon as they hear the word, they go, oh, 1218 01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:26,719 you know, Jesus wasn't doing and all that, and they go, wait, dude, 1219 01:07:26,719 --> 01:07:29,960 I go, dude, step back for one second. Listen to 1220 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,000 what he's saying. I know what he's saying is crazy, 1221 01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:35,519 but look at it from a different perspective. He's confirming 1222 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,119 all this shit, all these conspiracies. Now again, you have 1223 01:07:39,159 --> 01:07:41,480 to take his word for it, because he's the quote 1224 01:07:41,519 --> 01:07:44,840 unquote expert in said field. So whatever he's translating, you 1225 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,199 got to take his word for I can't translate it. 1226 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:52,440 But there's conspiracies and things surrounding everything he's saying, and 1227 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,199 he's confirming all the shit that we've been talking about 1228 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,639 for a long time through that. But people don't latch 1229 01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:01,639 onto that. They latch onto the oh, well, this is blasphemist. 1230 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,239 Speaker 3: Like he's very he's very dramatic, and you know he 1231 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,159 has like certain at this point, you know, he's he's 1232 01:08:09,159 --> 01:08:12,199 having fun with people right as part of this. 1233 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,079 Speaker 4: But if you are able to find. 1234 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,639 Speaker 3: If you're able to read his books which I have, 1235 01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:20,239 or you're able to find some older interviews or some 1236 01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:23,119 interviews that are more scientific in nature that he's given, 1237 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,600 and you listen to what he is actually saying, it 1238 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:31,760 makes perfect sense. And you know, and once people sort 1239 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,800 of back off, either being completely like obsessed with what 1240 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,640 he's saying or completely like repulsed by what he's saying, 1241 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,199 and just like, look at the actual data points that 1242 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:47,279 are being presented, and basically what he's saying is every 1243 01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:51,359 conspiracy that you imagine to be true is based on 1244 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:56,039 a practice that goes so far back in time, right, Like, 1245 01:08:56,119 --> 01:09:00,439 this has always been part of being here here, part 1246 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:05,039 that like they call these rights and rituals or the techniques, 1247 01:09:05,199 --> 01:09:08,239 they call them the mysteries because each group of people 1248 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,000 had different ways of achieving these states and gaining knowledge, 1249 01:09:13,039 --> 01:09:15,720 and they felt like, just like when you invent something 1250 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,720 in your company, it's proprietary information. Right Like, if you 1251 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,560 own a restaurant and you have the best pizza in town, 1252 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,840 your recipe is a secret. It's not that other people 1253 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,399 don't make or eat pizza. They have their own recipe, 1254 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,039 and you think yours is good or better or best or. 1255 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 4: Make the most money. 1256 01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:37,399 Speaker 3: It is sensible for you not to share other than 1257 01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,119 with your most trusted circle of people what the recipe is, 1258 01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:45,319 because you can gain advantages monetarily, you know, by selling pizza. 1259 01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 4: But in the case of like, you know what, if. 1260 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:53,199 Speaker 3: We're really in the business of trying to advance our knowledge, right, 1261 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,840 advance our knowledge, And if you're going back in antiquity, 1262 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,920 survival was difficult. So if you knew more than the 1263 01:10:00,079 --> 01:10:02,520 group of people next to you and it came down 1264 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,359 to it, you were going to have a leg up 1265 01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:11,279 in combat or in saying farming processes or whatever it is. Right, 1266 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,079 So everything is just a question of does this and 1267 01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:19,640 does this technique or this information give me at an advantage? 1268 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 4: And for how long can he give me an advantage? 1269 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,359 Speaker 3: What do I have to do to, you know, prolong 1270 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,600 the amount of time that I know something that other 1271 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,399 people don't. Right, And even though it's their right as 1272 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,039 a human being to have that knowledge, also if they 1273 01:10:36,039 --> 01:10:39,680 can figure out how to get it, it's not my responsibility. 1274 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 4: To tell them. 1275 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,279 Speaker 3: And we are living in a world where the people 1276 01:10:42,319 --> 01:10:44,560 that we call the elite, both the ones we can 1277 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,520 see and the ones that we know, are beyond them. 1278 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,640 They're not necessary, like they're No one is stopping us 1279 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,479 from learning the things that they might know, except for 1280 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,840 this anger that they're. 1281 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,319 Speaker 4: Not telling us. But as soon as let you go, Okay, 1282 01:10:58,359 --> 01:10:59,960 well I'm here and I'm. 1283 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,239 Speaker 3: A reasonably decent intelligence, and I can figure things out too. 1284 01:11:03,359 --> 01:11:06,680 So I'm gonna start experimenting with myself and my consciousness 1285 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,039 or try this or try that or whatever, and be 1286 01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:12,239 honest with myself about what the results are or what 1287 01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:15,000 I think or what happened or whatever it is. 1288 01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:16,680 Speaker 4: You can start to know things too. 1289 01:11:17,279 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 3: Right, There's never been like every important thing I've ever learned, 1290 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,279 No one's ever tried to stop me from knowing. It's 1291 01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:27,439 only like little puny, stupid, little secrets that like don't 1292 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,199 really matter at all but waste a lot of time. 1293 01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:32,119 Speaker 4: Sometimes they get a lot of clicks or whatever. 1294 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,680 Speaker 3: Are the things that like, we're kind of like they 1295 01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,479 try to stop us from saying or stop us from knowing. 1296 01:11:39,039 --> 01:11:42,359 But you know, you have to be willing to do 1297 01:11:42,399 --> 01:11:46,279 the word yourself. You have to try and fail and 1298 01:11:46,359 --> 01:11:49,840 try again and succeed and then get tempted because like, 1299 01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:53,359 now I know something everyone else doesn't know. Am I 1300 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,479 gonna do the same thing to other people that I 1301 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,239 don't like other people having head done to me? Or 1302 01:11:58,279 --> 01:12:01,920 am I going to behave in the way that I 1303 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,359 would behave to do something different? Right, you'll probably make 1304 01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:07,520 a mistake and you might use it to your advantage 1305 01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,239 once or twice and you realize, yeah, I don't like that. 1306 01:12:09,319 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 4: I can't live with myself. I have to find a way. 1307 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,439 Speaker 3: To be in this world and know these things and 1308 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,279 you know, allow other people to know them in their 1309 01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:20,000 own time. It's not necessarily incumbent upon me to go 1310 01:12:20,039 --> 01:12:23,279 blabbing it out and telling everybody. But you know, sometimes 1311 01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:25,960 when you can see someone is honestly seeking or learning 1312 01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:29,119 or trying to learn, you can give them a few hints, 1313 01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:30,840 you can give them a few clues, you can take 1314 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:31,600 them under your wing. 1315 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,600 Speaker 4: But you can't do it for them when. 1316 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,640 Speaker 3: Someone when when somebody gets the answers too easily, they 1317 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,960 just yield them willy nelly and do dumb shit with them. 1318 01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:43,000 Speaker 2: You're fighting a good case for the FEDS and the 1319 01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:47,119 secret societies, Emily. That's what it's. That's what it's always 1320 01:12:47,119 --> 01:12:49,800 been about, right, It's always been how I said that, 1321 01:12:50,119 --> 01:12:53,560 the I've said before that it's because people ask me like, oh, 1322 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,520 you know, how does this all start. I'm like, it's 1323 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,760 all always has been about information. In the garden of 1324 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:03,000 you didn't it was a war about information, donat from 1325 01:13:03,039 --> 01:13:06,399 that tree, because you were going to acquire information that 1326 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:11,199 you otherwise weren't you weren't supposed to have that information, right, 1327 01:13:11,279 --> 01:13:14,159 And this is the whole ideology behind secret societies and 1328 01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:18,199 occulting knowledge only a select few. And if you join us, 1329 01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:21,399 will let you in on the secrets. Otherwise you're gonna 1330 01:13:21,399 --> 01:13:24,000 be the outside. But how you're saying, it's not stopping 1331 01:13:24,039 --> 01:13:29,880 you from acquiring that knowledge if you're able to alchemize yourself, 1332 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,319 because it's always been about like the purification of yourself 1333 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,560 or looking within in this sort of weird way. Now 1334 01:13:36,119 --> 01:13:38,800 what does that exactly mean? I don't know, but from 1335 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,159 what I've read, it's about how you're saying, this realization 1336 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,840 that you're that there's something more to you, or facing 1337 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,279 you know, getting as close to the Godhead as possible 1338 01:13:49,359 --> 01:13:51,960 to kind of sort of acquire some of that essence, 1339 01:13:52,119 --> 01:13:54,600 so it rubs off on you or it transforms you 1340 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,119 where you're then able to step outside of space and time. 1341 01:13:57,199 --> 01:13:59,560 If you look at the whole story of Enoch, right 1342 01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:04,720 and the whole premise of it, he becomes Metatron after 1343 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,479 all the things that he's shown. He becomes this overseer 1344 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,199 of reality, after all the things that he is shown 1345 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,680 by the watchers that are watching the divine alchemists at work, 1346 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,319 which is God creating and uncreating reality. So once he's 1347 01:14:19,399 --> 01:14:23,840 exposed to all those secrets, he transforms into this angel, 1348 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:24,800 right Metatron. 1349 01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:31,319 Speaker 4: So and what does Metatron have? Medatron has his cue. Right, 1350 01:14:31,359 --> 01:14:33,840 that's the famous sacred geometry shape. 1351 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,079 Speaker 2: Called is that what's above you right now? 1352 01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:38,079 Speaker 4: Or is that that is in the Metatron's cube? 1353 01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:40,720 Speaker 3: But that is a that is like a sacred geometry 1354 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,239 kind of mandala, right there has some similarities to. 1355 01:14:45,159 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 4: A Metatron's cube. 1356 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,680 Speaker 3: Though. What all of this is about is about becoming 1357 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,880 a master of the sacred geometry of space, time and sound. Yes, right, 1358 01:14:53,319 --> 01:14:55,800 And there's different techniques for achieving that. And back to 1359 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,560 what you said about me making a good case for 1360 01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,479 the Feds. You know, I do anything for you one 1361 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:03,479 I love it. 1362 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,960 Speaker 2: That's what I've been accused of. 1363 01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 3: But this is the whole thing, right, Like, there's many 1364 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,520 ways to go about acquiring knowledge, and you have to 1365 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,039 decide on one that feels right and comfortable for you. 1366 01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:21,359 But there's a huge difference between not being like told 1367 01:15:21,399 --> 01:15:25,399 something and being lied to, right, especially when it comes 1368 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:29,319 to like sensitive information. 1369 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,520 Speaker 4: And when by sensitive information, I don't mean secrets about 1370 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,880 who fucked to right. I mean, like, think. 1371 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,279 Speaker 3: About this, if if let's just say that everything that 1372 01:15:39,319 --> 01:15:42,600 I've ever, everything that I've said today about how portals 1373 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:47,880 worked is true, Okay, And then and then somebody had 1374 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,560 some idea that you or I maybe have because we 1375 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,560 seem so insightful about portals or whatever, like maybe we 1376 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,199 know they exist because we opened one or we've been 1377 01:15:59,239 --> 01:15:59,800 to one, So. 1378 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,479 Speaker 4: Maybe our genetics are the key. 1379 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 3: So then you're going to have people like, well, how 1380 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,359 am I going to go collect them of want and 1381 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,960 Emily's genetics? And so if I get some of it 1382 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:10,119 once and it works, how. 1383 01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:11,520 Speaker 4: Do I get more? Right? 1384 01:16:12,119 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 3: No, Having this this awareness like requires a rising level 1385 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:21,479 of discernment and responsibility for every learn new thing you know, 1386 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,439 Otherwise you end up with the kind of fuck cards 1387 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,600 that we all complain about who have access to vast 1388 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,199 resources and lots of knowledge and use them to do 1389 01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:37,920 things that you know are like, you know, isn't something that. 1390 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 4: I would necessarily want to do with that knowledge, right. 1391 01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:46,039 Speaker 3: But my mind feeling has always been that, like people 1392 01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:49,560 are only interested in controlling what other people do when 1393 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,239 they're not confident in their own abilities or when they 1394 01:16:52,319 --> 01:16:54,760 really like they want to be doing the same thing 1395 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,319 that person is doing, or or they need that person 1396 01:16:57,359 --> 01:16:58,920 in order to be able to do. 1397 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 4: What they want to do. When I'm like in my element, 1398 01:17:02,119 --> 01:17:03,520 like when I'm at a. 1399 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:08,279 Speaker 3: Party dancing, exploring hyper space dimensions, whether they really exist 1400 01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:10,399 or they're just in my mind, Like my eyes are closed, 1401 01:17:10,399 --> 01:17:12,000 I don't I'm paying attention to what's going on around me. 1402 01:17:12,039 --> 01:17:14,640 I give no shits about what this person over here 1403 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,840 is doing, what this person over there is doing. 1404 01:17:17,159 --> 01:17:19,239 Speaker 4: And eventually I might open my eyes and. 1405 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,079 Speaker 3: Move positions or switch over and go listen to what 1406 01:17:22,119 --> 01:17:24,720 the speaker sounds like over here. And along the way, 1407 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,960 someone might catch my eye because they're a good dancer, 1408 01:17:27,159 --> 01:17:29,960 and I recognize that they're mastering the art of the 1409 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,600 sacred geometry of space, time and sound, and I want 1410 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:36,039 to see how they do it right, and so they 1411 01:17:36,079 --> 01:17:38,880 have my attention. But like other than that, like I 1412 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,279 don't care what they're doing. I'm just like I like 1413 01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:43,039 to figure out my way. I like to see what 1414 01:17:43,079 --> 01:17:45,399 other people are doing. They don't have to tell me. 1415 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,720 I can observe and guess for myself, or sometimes they 1416 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:49,640 will let you. Sometimes people will be like, hey, yeah, 1417 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:50,840 this is what I do. This is why I do it, 1418 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,640 This is what happens for me when I do it. 1419 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,880 It's all kind of in how you approach it, right, 1420 01:17:55,039 --> 01:17:59,920 But it's like, you know, this obsession with knowing what 1421 01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:03,680 everybody is doing all the time does not speak highly, 1422 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,439 does not convince me that they're very intelligent. It convinces 1423 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,119 me that they have attained a level of knowledge that 1424 01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:17,800 lets them know that there are powerful creators and magicians 1425 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,760 and travelers out there, and that they're not one of them, 1426 01:18:21,159 --> 01:18:24,279 and so they're going to go They want access to 1427 01:18:24,319 --> 01:18:25,279 all that juice. 1428 01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:28,279 Speaker 2: But we know that the right So the act of 1429 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:36,720 voyeurism or or observing or write the watchers, this whole concept. 1430 01:18:37,159 --> 01:18:39,800 I don't know where the double Slit experiment, right, if 1431 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:43,960 it's quantum physics or whatever it is, shows and illustrates 1432 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,600 that observing has some effect on reality. Is it me 1433 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,039 that that inspires me? 1434 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 4: Like? Sure? 1435 01:18:52,279 --> 01:18:54,600 Speaker 3: The best part of it, especially if you have something 1436 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,960 that you want people to do, like if you have 1437 01:18:57,039 --> 01:19:00,159 figured out the equation for if I observe someone in 1438 01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:03,359 a certain circumstance, it then affects the outcome and causes 1439 01:19:03,399 --> 01:19:05,199 them to do that next. So I'm sure there's people 1440 01:19:05,239 --> 01:19:07,760 who've been able to manipulate some of that. But I 1441 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,840 would even go far out on a limb and say, like, 1442 01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:16,079 all of this surveillance is really based on our observations 1443 01:19:16,079 --> 01:19:18,520 of ourselfs, which doesn't make it. 1444 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,640 Speaker 4: Okay. I am not pro surveillance or anything. 1445 01:19:21,319 --> 01:19:24,039 Speaker 3: Like that, but all of these systems that have been 1446 01:19:24,079 --> 01:19:28,159 built they mimic something in nature. And I think our 1447 01:19:28,199 --> 01:19:31,359 reality was set up so that we could observe ourself 1448 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,880 over time and make changes to ourselves to become better, 1449 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,720 to become more, to become more in line, to make 1450 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,239 the person we see ourselves as matched person we actually are, 1451 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,640 or whatever it is, right, And you know, so think 1452 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,000 about we're in some system that works a certain way, 1453 01:19:52,319 --> 01:19:55,600 and if some people get hip to the fact of 1454 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,479 how that work and everyone doesn't, you can build a 1455 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,520 smaller system within that that does all of the same things, 1456 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,039 but that you're in charge of. And let's say the 1457 01:20:05,119 --> 01:20:07,680 nature is an open system that there's really no one 1458 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,479 in charge. We're all just observing ourselves and my experience 1459 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,960 of observing myself is interacting with your experience of observing 1460 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,640 yourself and whatever it is, and it's it's an open system. 1461 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,000 And then somebody comes along and it's like, I'm going 1462 01:20:20,079 --> 01:20:23,439 to create a walled off garden within that system that 1463 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,960 I've watched how this happens, how all the observation affects behavior. 1464 01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:31,319 But I'm going to create a closed system that I'm 1465 01:20:31,359 --> 01:20:34,760 in charge of, right and so like, so I'm the 1466 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,479 person observing, I've cut them off from the people who 1467 01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,359 are inside this construct. I've cut them off for the 1468 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:45,000 hire of self that has exists in the open system. Right, 1469 01:20:45,319 --> 01:20:48,479 But they will still feel like they are being watched 1470 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,039 and being observed, but they will be being observed by me, 1471 01:20:51,119 --> 01:20:52,760 and so they will become what I want them to 1472 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,159 be instead of what they want to be. 1473 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 4: Right. 1474 01:20:55,039 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 3: I do think that we are living with some of that, right, 1475 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,399 Like I don't think I don't think we're all the 1476 01:21:01,399 --> 01:21:05,720 way in Panopticon completely surveilled and controlled kind of scenarios. 1477 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,880 But like you've walked into some place where you're like 1478 01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,159 it feels creepy in here, Like I feel like I'm. 1479 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:12,600 Speaker 4: Taking a piss and someone is watching me. 1480 01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:16,800 Speaker 2: Right, so are are we in the Garden of Eden stuff? 1481 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,439 You look at the Garden of Eden story, then that 1482 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,520 sort of where like the Truman Show, which is kind 1483 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,520 of garden of Eden e right where it's like this 1484 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:28,800 whole omni present and and I think we're creeping up 1485 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,680 that way because like right now, one hundred percent they're 1486 01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:34,479 listening in on us here, like they're one hundred percent 1487 01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,199 listening So tech, we sleep with this on us. We 1488 01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:42,600 give them our biometric data and all of our health data. 1489 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,319 You don't think Samsung is collecting on this data and everything, right, 1490 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,920 you know what I'm saying, like we're already willingly giving 1491 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,680 up this information. He said, we're the we're the free 1492 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,239 range chickens right now, and we're in this control how 1493 01:21:55,239 --> 01:21:58,680 you're saying, this controlled group right, which it's getting bigger 1494 01:21:59,119 --> 01:22:03,720 and bigger and bigger. And Gustave Lebon talked about right, 1495 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:08,079 crowds and what constitutes a crowd. Well, a crowd could 1496 01:22:08,079 --> 01:22:11,760 be an entire nation of people, right, and and you know, 1497 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,520 ideas start traveling in between them. Maybe that's the phenomenon 1498 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:20,399 that they're trying to investigate. But there's oh, at the 1499 01:22:20,399 --> 01:22:22,600 core of this whole thing, It's like where does the 1500 01:22:23,319 --> 01:22:27,479 it is there? The conspiracy is is there a quantum 1501 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:33,560 state informational freeway sort of thing? Right? And who can 1502 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,359 tap into or what can tap into it. How you're saying, 1503 01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,760 are the higher ups interdimensional lizard people or moon children 1504 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,399 or whatever it is, Because it's just making me think 1505 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:48,840 of how many people are born to be in that class, 1506 01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,199 because if you look at like the whole shaman class, 1507 01:22:52,199 --> 01:22:54,319 it's always a select group of people who are put 1508 01:22:54,319 --> 01:22:56,680 in that position. It's not just anybody. They either need 1509 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,319 to be initiated or they're born into that. It seems 1510 01:22:59,319 --> 01:23:01,079 like the people who are at the top are usually 1511 01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:04,079 born to be there. They've been a politician all their life, 1512 01:23:04,119 --> 01:23:08,399 their dad's been a politician, or their dad was a president. 1513 01:23:09,039 --> 01:23:12,119 Speaker 3: When we hear about like these these you know, familty 1514 01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:16,000 families or royalty or certain classes or casts in the 1515 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,239 Indian system, this a lot has to do with bloodlines. 1516 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 4: And like when we think of bloodlines. 1517 01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,079 Speaker 3: We think of like ridiculously wealthy British people who have 1518 01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:28,000 these like ridiculous homes and they have a crest and 1519 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,319 they have all these old art and crazy shit. 1520 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,479 Speaker 4: But we're really talking about is like what is the 1521 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,800 makeup of their blood, What trace elements are in their 1522 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:43,520 blood that differentiate them from everyone else, and what are 1523 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:48,239 what what properties do those elements those trace elements have, 1524 01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:52,640 what does that give them access to? What does that 1525 01:23:53,239 --> 01:23:54,720 cut them off from? 1526 01:23:55,399 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 3: And you know, are the decisions being made to keep 1527 01:24:00,119 --> 01:24:03,640 that cure or our decisions being made to mix it 1528 01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,760 with another thing that will expand the power of that 1529 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:11,079 genetic that that that that collection of genetics. Right, I 1530 01:24:11,119 --> 01:24:13,960 think that this is a lot of what you know. 1531 01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:18,239 I think there's two different there, at least two we'll 1532 01:24:18,279 --> 01:24:19,760 just go we'll keep it simple. 1533 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 4: For right now. 1534 01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:24,279 Speaker 3: Two different kinds of like arranged marriages, right, And I 1535 01:24:24,319 --> 01:24:28,000 think some are pretty basic and some are pretty complicated, 1536 01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:32,119 and most are probably some combination thereof so arranged marriages 1537 01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:35,720 and some societies are really just about like making sure 1538 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:40,319 that your family has enough stuff, enough land, enough cattle 1539 01:24:40,399 --> 01:24:43,119 or property or people to work with all that or 1540 01:24:43,159 --> 01:24:48,760 whatever it is. And other group societies where there's a 1541 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:52,880 more sort of alchemical tradition or they're trying to preserve 1542 01:24:53,119 --> 01:24:59,359 some you know, ancestral technology or lore, are very careful 1543 01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:03,720 able about the recipe that they're using to bake the bread. Right, 1544 01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:08,640 and likely some combination of both of those things is 1545 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:13,640 probably what they feel like is ideal. But I think 1546 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,079 that you know, and I don't I'm sure you've probably 1547 01:25:16,079 --> 01:25:18,600 heard me talk about this before. I do think that 1548 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,720 this is some of the knowledge or law or secrecy 1549 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,880 that's being passed down in you know, secret societies like 1550 01:25:27,079 --> 01:25:30,439 you know Scottish write Freemasons or Knights Templar. 1551 01:25:30,279 --> 01:25:33,079 Speaker 4: Or you know, anyone any number of these things. 1552 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:39,600 Speaker 3: Is that they understand that components of their of themselves 1553 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:43,159 and their children, right, and they're trying to make sure 1554 01:25:43,279 --> 01:25:48,159 that these ingredients get mixed only with ingredients that either 1555 01:25:48,279 --> 01:25:50,359 preserve the status. 1556 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:54,119 Speaker 4: Or improve the status of the bread you're baking, right. 1557 01:25:54,920 --> 01:26:00,199 Speaker 3: And so I think that they have almost like gang signals, 1558 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,279 like you know how like graffiti artists may tags or 1559 01:26:03,319 --> 01:26:05,840 gang signals have symbols that they let people. 1560 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,119 Speaker 4: Know what they are so that they can know if 1561 01:26:09,119 --> 01:26:10,479 they should interact with them or not. 1562 01:26:11,359 --> 01:26:16,079 Speaker 3: Like, my mom's name is ruth Anne Moyer. Okay, my 1563 01:26:16,159 --> 01:26:20,399 mom was born in nineteen forty four. Okay, Element number 1564 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:21,279 forty four on. 1565 01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,079 Speaker 4: The periodic table is ruthinium. 1566 01:26:24,239 --> 01:26:27,680 Speaker 3: Ruthenium sure sounds a lot like ruth Anne Moyer, Right, 1567 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:32,479 it's okay. So, ruthenium is a super conductive element. It 1568 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:36,039 means it has very low electrical resistance. Well, I don't 1569 01:26:36,079 --> 01:26:38,880 know if you were going to make someone who could 1570 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,760 walk through walls or move through portals or time traveler, 1571 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,680 dimensional travel or something, my guess would be would want 1572 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:50,079 them to have low electrical resistance, to be super conductive. 1573 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,119 Speaker 4: Or if you were right, type of thing. 1574 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 3: And so, but you need something to probably balance that out, right, 1575 01:26:58,279 --> 01:26:59,920 So you might be looking. 1576 01:27:01,079 --> 01:27:05,680 Speaker 4: Or something to catalyze that. Right. So my mom's father 1577 01:27:06,079 --> 01:27:07,399 was a Mason, right. 1578 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,600 Speaker 3: He also was a lifelong member of the Schizophrenia International 1579 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,039 Research Society. That's a topic for another day, but I 1580 01:27:13,039 --> 01:27:17,039 do believe my mom had compartmentalized schizophrenia, okay, which turned 1581 01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:20,079 into Alzheimer's and dementia in her older age. 1582 01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:21,800 Speaker 4: And your buddy Thomas tells. 1583 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,239 Speaker 3: Us all about how that works, right, okay, and how 1584 01:27:25,239 --> 01:27:28,680 the Masons are obsessed with dementia precoxe right, this is 1585 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:31,119 why they're obsessed with it. But my mom was ruth 1586 01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:35,319 Anne Moyer number four. So I'm saying that the periodic 1587 01:27:35,399 --> 01:27:38,520 table could almost be like an outgrowth of the Masonic floorboard, 1588 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,119 and that she's remember forty four, right, She was born 1589 01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:45,840 in nineteen forty four, and he named her Ruthan right, 1590 01:27:46,279 --> 01:27:49,199 And and you know. So it's a way of saying, hey, 1591 01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:52,560 like my kid comes with ruthenium in the blood, right, 1592 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:57,119 And my mom was supposed to go to Stanford, right, 1593 01:27:57,279 --> 01:27:59,239 and at the last minute she decided she wanted to 1594 01:27:59,239 --> 01:27:59,960 go to UCLA. 1595 01:28:00,199 --> 01:28:03,680 Speaker 4: Her dad lost his shit, right, and it was like 1596 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,000 the UCLA is the little red schoolhouse, you know. 1597 01:28:07,319 --> 01:28:10,039 Speaker 2: And ruthenium can be found in blood too. That's crazy. 1598 01:28:10,359 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 4: I tell I've done my research. I'll say, you want 1599 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,159 to know what you want to know where you find 1600 01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:19,199 ruthenium like you could you can find it like in 1601 01:28:19,279 --> 01:28:20,439 Oaklow Gabone. 1602 01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,119 Speaker 3: It's this one of the places where there's the most 1603 01:28:23,119 --> 01:28:25,880 deposit of it. And Oaklow Gabone is where there's the 1604 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,159 two billion year old natural fission reactor. 1605 01:28:28,199 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 4: And how they know that there was. 1606 01:28:29,359 --> 01:28:32,319 Speaker 3: A natural fission reactor there is because of the amount 1607 01:28:32,399 --> 01:28:37,760 of ruthenium that's in the soil, right and so right 1608 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:41,239 it Oaklow Gabone, Oka l O Gabone. 1609 01:28:41,359 --> 01:28:42,680 Speaker 4: It's in a country in Africa. 1610 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:47,159 Speaker 3: Look up to fission reactor Oaklow Gaboney. 1611 01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:49,640 Speaker 4: I can't even bring up. I don't understand how to screen. 1612 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,159 Speaker 2: The natural nuclear reactor located West Africa is a geological 1613 01:28:53,159 --> 01:28:57,880 phenomenon where natural nuclear fission reacts occurred approximately one point 1614 01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,000 seven billion years ago, and it's the only known example 1615 01:29:01,039 --> 01:29:03,920 of such a reactor. What the fuck? 1616 01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,239 Speaker 4: So I'll look this, I'll show you this. 1617 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 3: I was looking at a lot of these things simultaneously, 1618 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,640 but like not intentionally. I happened to be researching some 1619 01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:15,119 things about my mom and researching some things about fission 1620 01:29:15,159 --> 01:29:16,119 infusion and whatever. 1621 01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:16,479 Speaker 4: It is. 1622 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,600 Speaker 3: The Oaklow phenomenon, a natural nuclear reactor discovered in Gabone, 1623 01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:25,079 demonstrates that fission products, including ruthenium, were captured in rock grains, 1624 01:29:25,119 --> 01:29:28,520 offering insights into nuclear waste storage and the behavior of 1625 01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,319 radioactive elements over vast geological time scales. 1626 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,199 Speaker 2: Would they sacrifice people here? How does that work? 1627 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 4: Well? 1628 01:29:36,279 --> 01:29:40,159 Speaker 3: Gabone is also the culture where we get Iboga from. 1629 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:45,359 And I did a bunch of shows with James Johansson, 1630 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:50,159 who's very well studied on Iboga, where we threaded together 1631 01:29:50,199 --> 01:29:53,239 a whole bunch of stuff. And I think that the 1632 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,920 bark of the tree, which is the tabernath tree that 1633 01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,960 they're using in their ibogas ceremonies, is probably uptaking Ruthini 1634 01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:02,199 him from the soil into the root, and so the 1635 01:30:02,199 --> 01:30:05,359 information of those reactions from all that distance back in 1636 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,079 time is sort of coming into the bodies of these people, 1637 01:30:09,119 --> 01:30:13,159 and they're able to transfer ancestral information. 1638 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:17,239 Speaker 4: Through these rituals. They're like time travel ceremonial rituals. Right. 1639 01:30:17,319 --> 01:30:21,000 Speaker 3: All that stuff has the information of everything that's happened 1640 01:30:21,039 --> 01:30:25,680 there stored in it, right, Okay, So, so my mom 1641 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:29,560 is ruth Anne Moyer. She represents ruthenium on the periodic table. 1642 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,800 Her dad lost his shit when she wanted to go 1643 01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,960 to ucla little red schoolhouse. He was afraid of communists. 1644 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,439 He was a banker that had worked for the War 1645 01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:40,680 Department and moved to Sacramento and the migration of those 1646 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,319 people out to the West coast. But suddenly he became 1647 01:30:44,359 --> 01:30:48,560 okay with things when my mother, through being fixed up, 1648 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:52,039 met my father. And it's weird because my father was 1649 01:30:52,039 --> 01:30:55,520 a Jewish Man and my grandfather was not, and you'd 1650 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,199 think he wouldn't have been okay with that, But it 1651 01:30:58,399 --> 01:31:03,560 just so happens that my father's name is Richard Allan Moyer, 1652 01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,640 and I have figured out through a similar process of 1653 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:11,199 divination that my father represents radium on the periodic table. 1654 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,640 So radium is element eighty eight. So my mom is 1655 01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:17,479 forty four and my dad is eighty eight. Now eighty 1656 01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,560 eight is double forty four, So that's interesting. But if 1657 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,840 you add forty four in eighty eight, you get one 1658 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:27,039 thirty two one plus three. Right, one plus thirty two 1659 01:31:27,159 --> 01:31:29,239 is thirty three. Seems to me that that might be 1660 01:31:29,319 --> 01:31:33,479 the signature of how Mason's coded some of their some 1661 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:34,319 of their stuff. 1662 01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:39,560 Speaker 4: Right. Both of my parents like their initial is RAM. 1663 01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:41,000 What is RAM? 1664 01:31:41,239 --> 01:31:46,600 Speaker 3: RAM is random access memory in computer terminology. Right, So 1665 01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,399 if you put these two things together, are you creating 1666 01:31:51,159 --> 01:31:54,199 a perfect genetic lineage that is able to sort of 1667 01:31:54,279 --> 01:31:59,239 tap back into all of the data stored like throughout. 1668 01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,000 Speaker 4: You know, in the family family lineages. 1669 01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 3: Throughout history, able to create a child, maybe even a moonchild, 1670 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,439 which my astrology and my birth date and all the 1671 01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:13,279 circumstances of my birth seem to match up to. 1672 01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 4: I don't understand what that is. 1673 01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 3: I don't know if I believe that or not, but 1674 01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,239 it's weird that when I read about it, I'm like, well, 1675 01:32:18,279 --> 01:32:18,680 that's weird. 1676 01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:20,399 Speaker 4: It matches everything from when I was born. 1677 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:24,279 Speaker 3: Like, what if what the moonchild is is the one 1678 01:32:24,279 --> 01:32:28,840 who can tap into that ram those random access memories 1679 01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:33,760 and like pull that information right into the present. 1680 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,760 Speaker 2: What's your what's your element? 1681 01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:45,520 Speaker 3: So I've heard I don't know, I've heard iridium from somebody, right, 1682 01:32:46,119 --> 01:32:46,840 I'm not sure. 1683 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,640 Speaker 4: I haven't done the work on myself yet. Right. 1684 01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:54,800 Speaker 3: It's it's a deep dive every time you go into this, right, 1685 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:58,520 but someone with you know, some ability to know about 1686 01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:02,159 some of the elements suggested perhaps it's a ridium, but 1687 01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:04,960 that doesn't go anywhere with my name, right, But my 1688 01:33:05,079 --> 01:33:09,199 name means something kind of interesting, right, My my my 1689 01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:14,319 name is basically like, uh, like a steward that is 1690 01:33:14,319 --> 01:33:18,960 a clairvoyant, right, is that what mean? 1691 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:20,359 Speaker 4: Emily? 1692 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:25,119 Speaker 3: Emily means like hard working steward, and Claire, which is 1693 01:33:25,159 --> 01:33:25,880 my middle. 1694 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,000 Speaker 4: Name, means clairvoyant. 1695 01:33:27,119 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you have a hard working steward of the clairvoyants. 1696 01:33:31,319 --> 01:33:34,199 Speaker 2: Which I mean you do put that out. You're definitely 1697 01:33:34,239 --> 01:33:39,760 hardworking into the mysteries of the mind, right, I mean 1698 01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:40,520 that's the whole thing. 1699 01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:43,479 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that any or all of that is true, 1700 01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:44,680 but it was. It's weird. 1701 01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,640 Speaker 3: It's like did my parents name me that accidentally? Where 1702 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,159 they just like, oh, we like this name. It's pretty 1703 01:33:50,239 --> 01:33:52,560 and they named me that, so I became that? 1704 01:33:53,239 --> 01:33:53,439 Speaker 2: Right? 1705 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,000 Speaker 4: Or did they name me that because they knew what 1706 01:33:56,039 --> 01:33:56,359 I would be? 1707 01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,359 Speaker 3: And if they're coming from one of these families that 1708 01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,239 does this, they know how to get the child to 1709 01:34:02,319 --> 01:34:05,159 do that is by naming them the right thing. 1710 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:06,680 Speaker 4: Names are important. 1711 01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,079 Speaker 2: Well, I think that people kind of sort of you know, 1712 01:34:09,199 --> 01:34:12,600 this is the weird part about like astrology and all 1713 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:15,279 this stuff, where the way I've come to see it 1714 01:34:15,359 --> 01:34:19,640 is those who understand and you know, when they say 1715 01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:21,640 you wear your heart on your sleevel, some people wear 1716 01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:26,119 their astrological alignment on their face like sort of and 1717 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:31,000 people sometimes fall into like their name, right, and is 1718 01:34:31,039 --> 01:34:34,479 it the indoctrination of again, my name is Juan, so 1719 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,600 I have nothing special there, but like is it being 1720 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:41,800 called hey, Emily, Emily, Emily your entire fucking life, like 1721 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,600 over and over and over again, where then you fall 1722 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,880 in line with that the meaning of it, right, the 1723 01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,680 the the phonetics of it, like at the core of 1724 01:34:53,039 --> 01:34:55,840 the whole thing, like is it ingrained in your genetics, 1725 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:59,960 like your name, and then that influences how you name 1726 01:35:00,159 --> 01:35:01,760 your next kid, like a lot of guys like to 1727 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,680 name their kid juniors, you know, after them, so then 1728 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,279 that passes that on and then you know you have 1729 01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:09,479 Juan the Fifth or whatever it is, because they keep 1730 01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,199 that same line. That kind of sort of plays into 1731 01:35:12,239 --> 01:35:17,119 the whole bloodlines and everything. But is there a way, 1732 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,560 you know, to escape all this, Emily, Is there a 1733 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:25,439 way to not give into the system of all the 1734 01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,800 things we've talked about on this episode, you know, giving 1735 01:35:28,119 --> 01:35:30,439 them our data, giving them all this stuff is there? 1736 01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,840 Do you think is there a way to to bypass 1737 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,479 that or do you just go with the flow, or like, 1738 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,159 what's the endgame here? Do you have any I. 1739 01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:42,159 Speaker 3: Think this answer is different for each individual, right, But 1740 01:35:42,199 --> 01:35:45,760 I think the biggest thing isn't about like like feeling 1741 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:49,840 like we need to avoid everything or participate in everything. 1742 01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:51,880 Speaker 4: I think it's really about. 1743 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:56,800 Speaker 3: Like understanding like the domain that you're in and what's 1744 01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:59,159 appropriate for that. It's kind of like and I've been 1745 01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:01,960 talking about those like with Danny a little bit yesterday, 1746 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,920 and I was talking about it with you know, Mario Garza. 1747 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,279 I was having like a private conversation with him, Like 1748 01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,479 when you become an adult, you have to like develop 1749 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,640 a work life balance and you know that like this 1750 01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:16,439 is your time for work and it's like really not 1751 01:36:16,479 --> 01:36:18,439 fair to your kids if you bring your work home 1752 01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,840 and you're sitting at the dinner table doing your work 1753 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,079 or on your phone having your meeting while you're supposed 1754 01:36:23,079 --> 01:36:25,680 to be playing with your kids. And we make mistakes, 1755 01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,800 but eventually we sort out like a work life balance 1756 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,960 that works for us, right. I think it's like that 1757 01:36:32,279 --> 01:36:36,079 with like technology and the system that that sort of 1758 01:36:36,079 --> 01:36:36,800 feeds us into. 1759 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:41,279 Speaker 4: It's kind of like when you. 1760 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:42,680 Speaker 3: Know, you go to this place or at this time 1761 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,279 of day, I'm involving myself in that, and so for 1762 01:36:46,359 --> 01:36:50,760 those purposes, I you know, signed up for this and 1763 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,720 signed up for that, and I log into this and 1764 01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,319 I log into that. But when I'm done with that 1765 01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,560 and I walk away from that, like I'm not taking 1766 01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:00,960 that everywhere with me. I don't think we need to 1767 01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,960 take our phone with us everywhere we go. I don't 1768 01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:07,039 think all of our vacations need to be someplace that 1769 01:37:07,119 --> 01:37:09,159 has Netflix on the TV and this that. 1770 01:37:09,279 --> 01:37:12,199 Speaker 4: So, but I think the recipe is different. 1771 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:15,279 Speaker 3: For everybody, right, And if we were going to work 1772 01:37:15,279 --> 01:37:20,159 on something collectively rather than saying like this is good 1773 01:37:20,199 --> 01:37:22,119 and everyone should be forced to do it, or this 1774 01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:24,800 is bad and it should be abolished. I think like 1775 01:37:25,039 --> 01:37:28,159 the collective push could be for having all of these 1776 01:37:28,199 --> 01:37:33,000 systems and technologies be opt in or opt out, and right, like, 1777 01:37:33,039 --> 01:37:35,840 I think that's like so that everybody can decide for 1778 01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:40,359 themselves what they participate in to what extent and when 1779 01:37:40,399 --> 01:37:44,920 they want away from it. And I think everybody deserves 1780 01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:47,960 to like have a place where they can go and 1781 01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,399 be quiet and not be listened to and not be 1782 01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,079 spied on, and not be worried that the things that 1783 01:37:54,159 --> 01:37:57,359 they say are being overheard or whatever the fuck it is, right, 1784 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,000 So I think it, But I don't think the answer 1785 01:38:00,119 --> 01:38:02,600 or is to just like bomb us back to the 1786 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:03,199 Stone age. 1787 01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,119 Speaker 4: And I don't think the answer. 1788 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,800 Speaker 3: Is just like well, we should just all do it 1789 01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,159 and then everybody will have full surveillance and transparent No, 1790 01:38:10,279 --> 01:38:11,840 I don't, Like I think it's just everyone has to 1791 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,760 decide for themselves what they're comfortable with and how much 1792 01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,640 right and and when and and then you know, know 1793 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,760 where you are, like you know, like let's be more 1794 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,600 mindful about like taking our phone with us when we're 1795 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,800 going to have a really deep important personal conversation with them. 1796 01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,560 And now for all the paranoia we have about what 1797 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,960 you were saying about. We have our data and our 1798 01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,279 phone and whatever. Like you know, we'll all sometimes get like, 1799 01:38:37,359 --> 01:38:39,760 let's not talk about that near our phone, but sometimes 1800 01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:44,520 we forget to not talk about it near our phone, right, 1801 01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,720 And somebody's never shown up and been like, you're arrested 1802 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,239 for what you talked about when you thought we weren't, 1803 01:38:50,279 --> 01:38:51,079 Lizzie or whatever. 1804 01:38:51,319 --> 01:38:52,960 Speaker 4: Right we have Like I. 1805 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:57,439 Speaker 3: Don't want to say it's unfounded paranoia, but it's like, 1806 01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,359 I think it's more just like developing. 1807 01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,359 Speaker 4: This sort of balance. When you're at school, you're at school. 1808 01:39:05,359 --> 01:39:06,720 Speaker 3: When you're at work, you're a work, When you're your 1809 01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:09,760 family with your family, When you're with the technology, you are, 1810 01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,159 and when you're not with the technology, you're not, and 1811 01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:13,000 not all of this. 1812 01:39:13,239 --> 01:39:14,800 Speaker 4: We don't need to have it for everything. 1813 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,800 Speaker 3: I think it's okay to be like I don't want 1814 01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:18,960 to go to a restaurant with like a QR code 1815 01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,840 and a digital thing all the time. I think it's 1816 01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:23,840 fine that those exist, but I don't want that to 1817 01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:27,000 be my only choice, right, Like, sometimes it's nice to 1818 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,479 do it the old fashioned way and just understanding sort 1819 01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:31,920 of what you know. 1820 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,399 Speaker 4: That idea of like what jurisdiction you're in. 1821 01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:37,239 Speaker 3: I think that goes not just for like the law, 1822 01:39:37,319 --> 01:39:40,640 but also for like degrees of technology. 1823 01:39:42,119 --> 01:39:44,760 Speaker 2: And meanwhile, my room was mapping on my entire house, 1824 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,319 taking pictures of me and collecting my data as well, 1825 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:51,199 So you know that's going to be interesting to want, 1826 01:39:51,359 --> 01:39:53,840 you know, speaking of what work life balance, check out 1827 01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:55,640 the show Severance. Have you seen that show yet? 1828 01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,520 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it. I think it's on Apple and 1829 01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,479 I don't have Apple TV, but I will check it out. 1830 01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,119 Speaker 2: I can send you a link if you don't want 1831 01:40:03,159 --> 01:40:07,439 to give them money, So check that out, because it's 1832 01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,920 like touching on what you're like the links people are 1833 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,560 willing to go. And I think that the paranoia is 1834 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:14,399 a byproduct of our system, like as it is. And 1835 01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:16,359 then plus you and I are in this you know, 1836 01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,880 conspiracy realm, so I think that just heightens that a 1837 01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,000 little bit more. We're surrounded by other people who are 1838 01:40:21,079 --> 01:40:23,960 also skitz so as fuck, and they're you know, in 1839 01:40:24,039 --> 01:40:27,279 a heightened level. Then it's like a herd mentality type 1840 01:40:27,319 --> 01:40:29,439 of thing where you know we're participating in it, but 1841 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,439 at the same time you're recognizing all the bullshit that's 1842 01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:34,600 going on, and you kind of sort of know that 1843 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:36,680 you're in the system, and it's like, wouldn't you want 1844 01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:39,640 to know you're in a matrix to be able to 1845 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,119 navigate it a little bit differently than the regular person. 1846 01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:45,520 So that's the way I see it. But Emily, let's 1847 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,119 let's get together again sooner than later, and I want 1848 01:40:48,119 --> 01:40:50,720 to talk about this nuclear reactor thing because that's super, 1849 01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:56,800 super interesting, and so watch Severance. We'll pick up our conversation. 1850 01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to send you that I did. It's about 1851 01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,000 three shows with James Johnson a few years ago. I'm 1852 01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,840 going to send them to you because I think there's 1853 01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,880 things in there that you might want to mine for 1854 01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,880 ideas for us to talk about, because I think you're 1855 01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:14,359 gonna like speaking of mining ancient grounds. Yeah, those are 1856 01:41:14,359 --> 01:41:16,159 some of my favorite shows a couple of years ago. 1857 01:41:16,279 --> 01:41:19,880 So I will send those on to you, and yes. 1858 01:41:20,039 --> 01:41:21,840 Speaker 2: Plug your stuff for the people at home. I really 1859 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:23,840 enjoyed our conversation as always, I mean, we always have 1860 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,479 great conversations. We never know what the fuck we're going 1861 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,680 to talk about, but here we. 1862 01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:31,720 Speaker 3: Are right just you know, go to Emily Moyer on 1863 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,720 YouTube and then really the best place that you can 1864 01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:37,720 like that has like the entire archive of all my 1865 01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,640 work is Patreon dot com for slash off Plant Media. 1866 01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,279 I do think that with the new series, I might 1867 01:41:43,359 --> 01:41:46,840 start substack just for the new series. It'll still be 1868 01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:49,279 available on my other places as well, but people seem 1869 01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:51,720 to be into sub stack, so I might do just 1870 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:53,960 something with that series on substack, but it'll still be 1871 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:58,279 available everywhere, And I look forward to our conversations always. 1872 01:41:58,279 --> 01:41:59,760 You can come over to my house for the next 1873 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,319 one if you want or whatever. 1874 01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:02,199 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1875 01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:04,680 Speaker 3: It's like, it's amazing to me that the places the 1876 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:07,760 homunculus has been popping up. 1877 01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:12,359 Speaker 4: Right in uh like bizarre like it's it's. 1878 01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:14,399 Speaker 3: In the it's it's it's been in like two or 1879 01:42:14,399 --> 01:42:18,680 three books I've read recently. And the way that it 1880 01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,760 is all like focused around the ear also brings me 1881 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,920 to like certain aspects of weird things I experienced with 1882 01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,239 my ears during the sort of years of control that 1883 01:42:28,279 --> 01:42:29,720 I felt. So I'd love to chat about that with 1884 01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:32,800 you sometime, but we can definitely talk about oak logabone 1885 01:42:33,119 --> 01:42:36,640 and I boga and ruthenium and all this kind of 1886 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,039 anytime you like, my friend, I always enjoy it. 1887 01:42:39,039 --> 01:42:40,279 Speaker 4: Thanks everybody for listening. 1888 01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:43,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thank you Emily for being here with us today, 1889 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:45,800 and everyone make sure go check out the show. Follow 1890 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:49,520 the new YouTube channel one on one Media YouTube dot com, 1891 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:53,960 slash at tj OJP, Patreon dot com, slash the One 1892 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:58,880 on One Podcast. Go on to www dot TJOJP dot 1893 01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,600 com to get a up with the Homunculus owners manual 1894 01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,800 cult this Monday, all that good stuff and all the 1895 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:07,000 links down in the description and we'll catch you on 1896 01:43:07,039 --> 01:43:09,560 the next one. Everybody, goodbye, now stay safe of each 1897 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,079 other and yep