WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:10.640 Go over that here with Aaron Day. Thanks so much 2 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:13.560 for coming on. I wanted to talk about bitcoin, the 3 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.199 potential hijacking of it. I'm new to bitcoin. I bought 4 00:00:17.239 --> 00:00:19.920 it bitcoin not long ago, so at a loss. Thankfully, 5 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:21.879 I didn't buy it at like one hundred and twenty three, 6 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:24.600 but I thought I dipped. It has been dipping since 7 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:27.719 I bought it, So wh're gonna get into big cooin. 8 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:30.800 I'm totally a novice on this, but I've noticed it's 9 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:33.439 all over the Epstein files. I just got a book 10 00:00:33.439 --> 00:00:36.719 by Roger Day Hijacking Bitcoin. I was reading that turned 11 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:39.560 out he's extremely controversial. You know. To me, a lot 12 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:41.600 of this stuff is making sense. But I don't really 13 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:43.840 know what to make of this. I'll probably actually have 14 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:46.320 a debate or another one with osite with the opposite 15 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:49.560 perspective view after this. But let's let's just start a 16 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:52.119 really base. Most people that are watching this will probably 17 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:54.159 understand bitcoin. But why don't you give a real quick 18 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:57.000 breakdown of what bitcoin is, what it was created for, 19 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:58.039 the purposes all that. 20 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:02.359 So let me go back to kind of where all 21 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.200 of this began, which is two thousand and eight. So 22 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:06.920 we call in two thousand and eight, we had this 23 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:11.120 big financial crisis and we had this huge, massive, you know, 24 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:15.159 almost trillion dollar bailout where none of the bankers were 25 00:01:15.159 --> 00:01:19.239 held accountable. People ten million people lost their homes, so 26 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:20.599 on and so forth. So this is kind of the 27 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:24.879 stage for bitcoin. And in fact, after that point you 28 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:29.400 actually had somewhat unity. You had the Occupy Wall Street 29 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.319 people on the left, you had the Tea Party people 30 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:35.280 on the right, but people were pretty agreed with the 31 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:38.519 fact that bankers are the bad guys and they tend 32 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:43.239 to do a very good job of socializing risk but 33 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:47.959 privatizing their gains otherwise. And so so bitcoin came around 34 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:51.680 right after that, around the two thousand and nine time period. 35 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.680 And the original purpose of bitcoin, and it even says 36 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:58.319 this in what's called the White Paper, which is a 37 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:01.439 document that outlines what coin is about what it's supposed 38 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:07.319 to be. It's peer to peer electronic cash. So the 39 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.360 point behind this is you're not going to have a 40 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:12.680 central bank. You know, the system that we have right 41 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.280 now is, you know, we basically have a group of 42 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.319 private banks that print money out of thin air, yes, 43 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:23.639 backed by government debt, and they profit off of every 44 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.599 single transaction that we have and then they manipulate the 45 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:30.080 interest rates to reduce supply of money, and then people 46 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:31.680 end up losing their home, so on and so forth. 47 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:33.719 So this is the system that we have. The idea 48 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:37.680 with bitcoin is we would get rid of these third parties. 49 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:41.719 You would no longer have central banks or governments issuing money. 50 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:45.759 You would have this decentralized form of currency that couldn't 51 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.800 be stopped by any third party government or bank. And 52 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:54.759 so this was the real excitement and enthusiasm about bitcoin. 53 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.319 And it's a not just something that's you know, for 54 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:01.080 the United States, this is a a gli global opportunity 55 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.039 to provide economic freedom around the world. I mean, it 56 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:08.000 turns out seventy one percent of the planet makes less 57 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.240 than ten dollars a day. So the ability to have 58 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:15.240 a currency that doesn't have high transaction fees and doesn't 59 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:18.400 have government corruption in the middle is really something that 60 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:21.840 is a game changer for humanity. And this is how 61 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.479 I learned about bitcoin. I learned about bitcoin in twenty 62 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:29.159 twelve in New Hampshire at a conference called Liberty Forum. 63 00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:32.719 I saw I heard this guy Roger Vere give a 64 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:35.479 talk about it, and he talked about it in just 65 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:37.759 those terms this is a way for us to spread 66 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:41.719 economic opportunity around the world to stop wars. I mean, 67 00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:44.639 we wouldn't have these wars if bankers weren't profiting off 68 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:48.240 of both sides of it. And so that was my initial, 69 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.400 my initial introduction to it. So I started using it 70 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:54.439 in twenty twelve. And when I started using it, in 71 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.919 the beginning for bitcoin, it was it wasn't just that 72 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:01.360 it was an ideologically better thing. It wasn't just that 73 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:04.840 here's money that doesn't involve these central banks and these 74 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:08.840 other players. It was actually better money. It was better, faster, 75 00:04:08.960 --> 00:04:12.639 and cheaper to use. I remember receiving my first bitcoin 76 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:17.199 payment and it was nearly instant, no bank or anybody involved. 77 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:21.399 The transaction fees were a few cents. And at that time, 78 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:24.759 in twenty twelve, there was nothing like this in the 79 00:04:24.759 --> 00:04:28.560 traditional financial system. We didn't have Venmo, we didn't have 80 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.160 these Apple paid, Google pay and everything else. And so 81 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:34.759 that was the real that was the beginning of bitcoin, 82 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.439 and that was the enthusiasm around bitcoin. 83 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.079 That's very interesting think you mentioned two thousand and eight 84 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:43.160 financial crisis. I watched so many of my friends suffer. 85 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.399 I was thriving during the time because fighting was going good, 86 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:47.720 but I watched my friends losing their houses, their homes, 87 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.279 their wives, and then I didn't follow politics time. Then 88 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.360 recently looked into the last couple of years and saw 89 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:55.439 the bankers, we paid them to bell them out, you know, crash, 90 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.199 They intentionally crashed our economy and then they're like, oh, whoops, 91 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:02.759 bell themselves out. Disgusting, you know. And you mentioned Roger Vere. 92 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:05.800 I contacted him trying to interview him, but he said 93 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:08.120 he apparently has a gag order from the United States 94 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:13.439 government and cannot give an interview. That is very interesting. 95 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:19.480 It's like, that's an entire other story that we can 96 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.439 get into. And this is actually, you know, probably why 97 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:25.199 I'm here because to continue the story. So I was, 98 00:05:25.319 --> 00:05:28.319 I was using bitcoin around twenty twelve, and in New 99 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:33.399 Hampshire there were shops and restaurants that were accepting bitcoin directly. 100 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:38.000 There were bitcoin meetups were This is going all the 101 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.279 way back to twenty eleven. I mean, this is how 102 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:43.240 early this was, but twenty eleven, twenty, you know, all 103 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.639 the way through kind of twenty fifteen, twenty seventeen, more 104 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:49.360 and more stores were signing up. You had businesses that 105 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:52.800 were setting up point of sale terminals so that they 106 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:56.480 could accept cryptocurrency. There was even in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, 107 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:59.879 a couple of guys actually created a store called the 108 00:06:00.040 --> 00:06:03.120 Bitcoin Shop, and you know, it was just an assortment 109 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.319 of merchandise, but you had you could only use cryptocurrency 110 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:10.879 in the shop. So people don't know this story and 111 00:06:10.959 --> 00:06:15.759 this side of bitcoin because bitcoin was really getting momentum 112 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:19.680 at this point and large retailers and businesses were starting 113 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:25.240 to accept bitcoin directly. So overstock dot Com was taking 114 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:27.920 bitcoin directly, so literally, you'd go to the website, you 115 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.399 could use your credit card, or you could send bitcoin 116 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:35.560 to their bitcoin wallet. Microsoft was accepting bitcoin. 117 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:38.519 It's speedy, bit quick, easy, you could just easy send 118 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:41.959 it over. Because that's extremely difficult to do. Now, someone 119 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:43.399 actually just taught me how to do that. We can 120 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:46.360 maybe discuss that at the end, but it's like, that's 121 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.160 so difficult to do. I had a lot of friends 122 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:49.800 from San Francisco, so I had a lot of friends 123 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:51.800 are in a bitcoin early on. I was a genius 124 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.399 and wait until hey eighty five to buy it, but 125 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.079 I had friends are buying it at like two hundred 126 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:59.000 dollars and they were super into it. I know, they 127 00:06:59.000 --> 00:07:01.879 were a huge believer, like you're saying, they talked about, like, 128 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.519 you know, buying stuff on it, but I've noticed it 129 00:07:04.519 --> 00:07:07.360 seems harder to buy stuff on it now, would you say? 130 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:08.759 That's correct? Right, that's kind of what you're saying. 131 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.160 It's well, it's more difficult. But what happened in twenty seventeen, 132 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:16.639 just as all of this excitement was building, all of 133 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:19.639 a sudden, the fees went through the roof. So instead 134 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.399 of having transaction fees of a few cents, the average 135 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:25.959 transaction fee jumped to fifty dollars at one point, coin sales, 136 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:31.959 and instead of transactions settling in you know, a minute 137 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:33.439 or ten minutes or whatever it happened to be in 138 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.160 a short period of time, it was taking seven days, 139 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:39.600 ten days just to complete a transaction. So you can 140 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:44.439 imagine what retailer's response to this was is, we can't 141 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.800 use this. This isn't better than a credit card. Right, 142 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.079 if you're a merchant and you're accepting a credit card, 143 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.120 you're going to pay thirty cents or three point nine 144 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.399 percent or whatever it is. That's better than fifty dollars, right. 145 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:57.000 So Bitcoin went from being. 146 00:07:57.279 --> 00:07:59.120 Unless you're a fast, expensive products. 147 00:07:59.160 --> 00:08:04.240 Yeah, now it's not even usable and so so then 148 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:07.839 people stop using it as as peer to peer digital cash. 149 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.879 Now it turns out I didn't know all of the 150 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:12.759 details about what was going on behind the scenes at 151 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:16.279 the time. I was just using it. So my enthusiasm was, Hey, 152 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:17.920 this is a cool new thing. I was actually using 153 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:20.839 it for politics. I was using it to raise money 154 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.279 to help support candidates and to actually pay volunteers on 155 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:27.319 the ground in New Hampshire in cryptocurrency to put up 156 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:29.839 yard signs and do all this other stuff. I'm like, 157 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:33.840 this is great, this is a new monetary system. And 158 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:37.480 so but what we learned later on, and what Roger 159 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:41.440 Vera wrote about in his book Hijacking Bitcoin, is there 160 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:43.440 there was a whole bunch of stuff going on behind 161 00:08:43.480 --> 00:08:50.240 the scenes the hijacking of bitcoin, and the narrative shifted entirely. 162 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:53.919 So Bitcoin went from being peer to peer digital cash 163 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:57.480 that you use for everyday transactions. So now people were 164 00:08:57.519 --> 00:09:01.440 starting to call it digital gold. There's thing, it's not 165 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:05.240 something that you use for commerce. It's something that you 166 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:10.159 hold and now and you never spend it, and it's 167 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:12.919 something that you know it should be slow and expensive 168 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:14.200 like this, So this whole. 169 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:18.039 This whole first purpose completely abandons it. Then, I mean, 170 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:21.480 ideally something's going in value too, not devaluing like the dollar. 171 00:09:21.919 --> 00:09:24.919 But if you can't spend it like cash, that's that 172 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.080 defeats the whole purpose, isn't It Wasn't that the entire 173 00:09:27.120 --> 00:09:29.600 purpose like you were just saying, it. 174 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:31.559 Was the entire purpose. It's the first sentence in the 175 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:37.240 actual white paper itself. Satoshi, who's this anonymous developer. We 176 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:42.679 don't really know who created bitcoin. That's weird, but even still, 177 00:09:42.720 --> 00:09:45.360 there were discussion boards where, you know, he was discussing 178 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.279 the fact that you know, bitcoin was was there to 179 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:51.679 replace Visa and MasterCard. Bitcoin is something that should be 180 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:55.639 able to do twenty five thousand transactions per second. And 181 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:58.759 what happened with this hijacked narrative is some people came 182 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.080 in and decided arti officially that we're going to cap 183 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:05.480 the what are called the size of the blocks, meaning 184 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.759 how many transactions can actually be processed every ten minutes. 185 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:13.039 They're going to artificially cap it at one megabyte. And 186 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:14.679 not to get into too much technical stuff, but it 187 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:19.519 means that bitcoin was throttled and could only do seven 188 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:21.399 transactions per second. 189 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:26.200 So someone came in and intentionally throttled it. 190 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:27.840 It was a movement. Well, it turns out it was 191 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:29.639 a movement. It turns out there were a lot of 192 00:10:29.799 --> 00:10:34.799 players involved. And recommend that people I recommend any sorry, 193 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:38.039 go ahead. Well, I recommend that people read Hijacking Bitcoin 194 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.840 to see a big part of the behind the scenes 195 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:43.840 because you can see what's going on with the specific 196 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.600 developers at the time. One simple way I like to 197 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:49.399 describe it is it's it's kind of like with this environmentalism. 198 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:52.039 You remember, you know Al Gore all of a sudden 199 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:55.519 started pushing carbon credits, right, and so this whole idea 200 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:58.399 behind carbon credits is we're going to manufacture a crisis 201 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.279 around carbon and then we're going to create a market 202 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.480 where we cap the amount of carbon and then we 203 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:07.720 drive up the price. We have people bidding on these 204 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:09.799 carbon credits that they can trade with each other. But 205 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.840 it was all artificial. Well that's what happened with bitcoin. 206 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.120 They came in and said we're going to limit the 207 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:19.559 size of these blocks, and then people, if you want 208 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.320 your transaction to go faster, you have to bid to 209 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:25.799 pay more for your transaction fee. So this is I 210 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:28.240 call it kind of a cap and trade system. And 211 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.720 what we find in the in Hijacking Bitcoin is there 212 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:37.120 was this shadowy character named John Dylon who was tied 213 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:40.559 to the intelligence community, who actually funded one of the developers, 214 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:44.879 the developer named Peter Todd, to implement this replace by fee. 215 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:47.120 So we know in this in this book who the 216 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:50.720 players are, and we see the communications between Dylan and 217 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:52.799 Peter Todd. So there's not just not like this isn't 218 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:53.399 a conspiracy. 219 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:56.159 This stuff was just came out, just come out in 220 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:57.919 Epstein files. Can know a lot of stuff has just 221 00:11:57.960 --> 00:11:59.480 come out in Epstein files. 222 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.639 That that even builds beyond beyond that. But you had 223 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:05.639 these these internal things that were already. 224 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:07.519 Going on behind this. 225 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.519 Is known before the Epstein files, and this is this 226 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:14.159 is what er Roger put in his book and then 227 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:17.440 goes into even more detail. And this then doves in 228 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:23.120 dovetails into Epstein. But a group of developers, early bitcoin 229 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:28.279 core developers, went off and started their own company called Blockstream. 230 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:33.639 And this company, Blockstream profits by Bitcoin being slow and 231 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.519 expensive because they build what are called layer two solutions 232 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:40.240 on top of bitcoin. So in other words, we're going 233 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.960 to throttle this thing. And now we're going to build 234 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.240 solutions to solve for the problem that we just created. 235 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.000 And so this was Blockstream. And so Blockstream was a 236 00:12:50.039 --> 00:12:53.320 combination of some of the early early developers, a guy 237 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:56.320 by the name of Adam Back who is in the 238 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:00.240 Epstein files sometimes referred to as Andy Back as well, 239 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.360 all who we now know visited Epstein. But even before 240 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:06.759 the Epstein information, we knew who some of the other 241 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:11.919 funding sources were for Blockstream, including a guy named Henry 242 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:15.399 Dicastris who was the chairman of the Builderberg group. Oh Jesus, 243 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:19.320 you had all of these players to help you. Yeah, 244 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:20.919 we're here to help you. So so in others, we're 245 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:22.679 going to make this thing slow and expensive, we're going 246 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:24.799 to cap it and then we're gonna have a bunch 247 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.879 of bankers. And now Epstein and other people invest in 248 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:32.279 in the solution. So it was captured by by traditional 249 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:35.320 finance and in part by people tied to the intelligence community. 250 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.879 And you know, we knew, we knew some of that, 251 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:40.720 but frankly, we none of us knew the depths of 252 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:45.399 it with with Epstein. Now, my piece of this, my 253 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:48.480 piece of this comes into you know, I won't go 254 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:52.279 through all the detail and my backstory. But I'm a 255 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.840 serial entrepreneur and uh, you know, the second company I 256 00:13:55.840 --> 00:14:00.799 started in the healthcare space was destroyed by Obamacare. Dodd Frank, 257 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:04.799 Attorney General Eric Holder. I wasn't targeted, unlike certain friends 258 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:06.480 that I had that had been explicitly try I was 259 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:09.440 just collateral damage, and so that turned me into a 260 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:12.879 liberty activist. That's how I ended up in New Hampshire 261 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.440 and working on political activism. But that's when I learned 262 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:20.600 about bitcoin, and so in twenty nineteen, I actually I 263 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.159 realized we're not going to be able to vote our 264 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.600 way out of this. So I stopped using a personal 265 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:29.279 bank account and started living on crypto gold and silver. 266 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.600 And so this has been It's not actually an easy 267 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.679 thing to do, but it is a possible thing to do. 268 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:40.879 And what I learned kind of a post COVID. I 269 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:43.519 wasn't even all that surprised about COVID, but what did 270 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:47.639 catch my attention was when friends of mine were being 271 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:52.159 targeted explicitly by the federal government. And these were specifically 272 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:57.639 people that were libertarian leaning that were involved in cryptocurrency, 273 00:14:57.759 --> 00:15:00.279 and they were promoting the use of cryptocurrent and sy 274 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:04.320 as a tool for freedom as a replacement for central banks, 275 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:09.559 as a way to move beyond censorship. And so one 276 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.399 person in particular, Ian Freeman, this really kind of you know, 277 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:17.519 got me digging into this whole what's going on with 278 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:22.600 the hijacking of bitcoin and CBDCs. Ian Freeman and his 279 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:26.039 business partner Mark Edge have a syndicated radio talk show 280 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:30.039 called Free Talk Live and they've been promoting liberty, promoting 281 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.120 the Free State project, and they started talking about bitcoin 282 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:36.799 in twenty ten. In fact, Roger Vere learned about bitcoin 283 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:41.080 from Ian Freeman. On this Free Talk Live show. Ian 284 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.960 was selling people bitcoin. He actually had kind of a 285 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:48.120 bitcoin exchange and you know he would provide that as 286 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.799 a service to onboard people to cryptocurrency. Well, he was 287 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:56.120 targeted and raided by five different departments of the federal government. 288 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:58.120 They came in and busted down his door with a 289 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:02.360 bear cat. The whole nine year yuards for essentially selling 290 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:06.799 bitcoin without a license. Now what's interesting about this is 291 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.240 he actually had an opinion letter from an attorney saying 292 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:13.519 he didn't need a license because in New Hampshire there's 293 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:17.480 some different different roles. He is currently sitting in federal 294 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:22.279 prison for eight years for selling bitcoin without a license. Now, 295 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:26.240 so what I decided to do is why is this happening. 296 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.039 Why are these people, liberty crypto people being targeted? And 297 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.679 that's when I learned about central bank digital currencies. And 298 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:36.559 I don't know if you followed followed that much, not really, 299 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:40.440 but central bank digital currencies are basically taking the fiat 300 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:42.720 currency that we have, the dollars that are printed out 301 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.879 of thin air, and making them programmable, trackable, and sensorable. 302 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:52.440 Yes, as a tire purpose of bitcoin to not be 303 00:16:52.600 --> 00:16:54.240 trackable and traceable, and. 304 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.600 That's what we that's what we thought, and so all 305 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.320 of us. So what I found is that in March 306 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:06.240 of twenty twenty two, President Biden signed an executive order, 307 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:10.319 and that executive order authorized the government to pursue a CBDC, 308 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:13.799 So it became government policy to create one of these 309 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:19.720 dystopian programmable digital currencies. And that same executive order authorized 310 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.200 a they called it in the document, a whole of 311 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.599 government crackdown on crypto, meaning they were bringing in the 312 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:31.400 Treasury Department, the IRS, DHS, the you name it. Why 313 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:35.799 because people wouldn't want a CBDC, and you have to 314 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.640 get rid of the competition. There are people out there, 315 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:42.079 like Ian or like Roger talking about how you can 316 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:47.279 use these cryptocurrencies to circumvent the tyranny that comes from 317 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:49.759 central banks and so forth. But they needed to shut 318 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:53.640 that down, and so that's why Ian and others are 319 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:56.799 being targeted. So I actually wrote a book about it 320 00:17:56.920 --> 00:17:59.359 and studied what was going on, and I found there 321 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:01.720 are now one hundred thirty four countries around the world 322 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:06.079 working on CBDCs. These countries represent ninety eight percent of 323 00:18:06.119 --> 00:18:09.880 the total GDP or economic output of the planet. So 324 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:12.799 in other words, this is a coordinated global thing. 325 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.519 To put it in place, real quick, plug plug your 326 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:17.599 book and where people can get it. Since your you 327 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:19.519 mentioned your book, you might as well, you know, type 328 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:21.000 o where they can get if if they want, they 329 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:22.480 might want to hear more at hearing this talk. 330 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:28.880 Sure, I mean, my book is called The Final Countdown Crypto, Gold, Silver, 331 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:31.720 and the People's Last Stand against Central Bank Digital Tiranny. 332 00:18:31.720 --> 00:18:33.680 But you can just look for The Final Countdown. It's 333 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:37.200 it's on Amazon, and you know in the book talks 334 00:18:37.200 --> 00:18:40.440 about you know, my whole argument is, and I put 335 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:43.240 out the book as a warning, which is central bank 336 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:47.680 digital currencies are just one part of an overall technocratic plan. 337 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:52.960 There's more movement towards centralization. So you have digital IDs, 338 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:55.680 you have central bank digital currencies, and then you have 339 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.480 social credit systems and AI surveillance, and there's a big 340 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:01.359 push for it's happening. 341 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:05.000 Thanks for watching fight Back podcast. If you like the show, 342 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:09.359 like subscribe or share the video. There's also donation links 343 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.720 and the descriptions and tier coming in. It's all connected, 344 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.920 as we're seeing in the Epstein files, and the banking 345 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.119 is kind of the head of the snake. That's the 346 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:20.640 conclusion of Thanks to banks, that's their intermediate one. And 347 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:23.319 for me, I'm I'm on their target. So I want 348 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:25.359 money that they can't track case I need to like 349 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.039 disapairt of the country real quick. That they can't just 350 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:28.079 shut up a bank accounts. 351 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.240 That's exactly right, and so and what people don't realize 352 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:36.599 is that we don't need a CBDC. Most of our 353 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:38.839 money is already digital. I think ninety six percent of 354 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:42.119 our money is digital. It can already be tracked. In fact, 355 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.920 if you do a financial transaction greater than ten thousand dollars, 356 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:50.640 a report is automatically sent to the Treasury Department and 357 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:54.200 they already have in place what's called the Bank Secrecy Act, 358 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:57.359 all of these know your Customer, anti money wandering laws. 359 00:19:57.400 --> 00:19:59.079 So whenever you go to set up an account, you 360 00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.039 have to fill out all this paperwork. In fact, it 361 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:05.640 costs sixty one billion dollars a year just to comply 362 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:08.440 with all of this paperwork. But it doesn't actually catch 363 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:12.119 any criminals. It only catches zero point one percent. It's 364 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.839 just added cost and tracking an overhead. And so now 365 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:18.680 once if you added a CBDC on top of that, 366 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:20.640 that would give them even more control. 367 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:22.000 Yeah, they want to be able to try to think 368 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:25.599 about everything they have. Exact the point bitcoin was be 369 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:27.319 anonymous and hide it, and they want it WHEREY can 370 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.880 track everything, shut everything down, and it's terrifying. I was 371 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.240 kind of shocked. I posted a picture of the hijacking 372 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:35.079 bitcoin by well fascinating book I'm reading, and I a 373 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:36.559 lot of people mad at me, which I was a little 374 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:38.519 confused about. And I will bring someone on on the 375 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:40.440 opposite side to try to tell the story. But I 376 00:20:40.480 --> 00:20:44.960 wasn't quite understanding. I wasn't seeing these like terrible things 377 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:47.240 and lies that he was allegedly saying. As we see 378 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:52.400 now like Howard Lutnik, demons all over the Epstein files, 379 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:53.680 and other awful people. 380 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.079 The story has all kinds of twisted turns. So when 381 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:02.920 I was studying cbdc's, so Biden's talking about a CBDC. 382 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:04.480 So I wanted to research on what's going on in 383 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:08.240 the United States with CBDCs. And that's what I found. 384 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:10.880 And most people in the US don't know this. The 385 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:14.599 United States will actually the Federal Reserve has already completed 386 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.960 three CBDC pilots, so they're not just talking. And this 387 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.119 stuff goes back to like twenty eighteen. So when I'm 388 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.880 digging into this research, all three of these CBDC pilots 389 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:29.400 come out of MIT and a group headed by joy Eto. 390 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:31.799 And so I wrote an article a few years back 391 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:34.559 and I said, well, it looks like because we knew 392 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.440 Jeffrey Epstein had funded this MIT group, so I said, 393 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:43.960 it looks like Jeffrey Epstein was funding these CBDC pilots. Well, 394 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:47.599 then it turns out Rogers's story with hijacking bitcoin merges 395 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:50.599 with my story in a way that I could not 396 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:57.519 have possibly dreamed of, which is that bitcoin is an 397 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:02.519 open source project. There's no corporate structure behind it at all. 398 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:06.400 There's no funding for it. So you basically have these 399 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:09.319 open source developers that work on the code of the 400 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.039 project and everybody can see the code of the project. Well, 401 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:15.960 it turns out developers don't do work for free, and 402 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:18.720 people don't audit code to see if sure or not 403 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.839 for free. Right, somebody's paying these developers. And so there 404 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.960 was a group called the Bitcoin Foundation that was formed 405 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:31.480 to be a nonprofit to fund the development according to 406 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:34.880 the white paper, and to maintain the integrity of the project. 407 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:39.200 And so this was the overarching vision of this. Well, 408 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:41.759 it turns out in this time that we're talking about 409 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:46.440 where this hijacking occurred, the chairman of the Bitcoin Foundation 410 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:49.880 is a guy named brock Pierce. Now brock Piers has 411 00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:54.720 a really storied past people can dig into. You could 412 00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:55.599 just google him. 413 00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.119 And the boys. That guy, I'm mixing him up. I 414 00:22:58.119 --> 00:22:58.599 don't want to. 415 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.200 It's the Digital Entertainment Network and I actually interacted with 416 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.039 this affected me all the way back in the late 417 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.519 nineties early two thousand. He started a company, or he 418 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.160 didn't start the company, but he was the CEO of 419 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.799 a company that was going to go public. And then 420 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:15.720 all of a sudden, all hell broke loose because the 421 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:19.960 founders were charged with having sex with underage boys that 422 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:22.559 they fled to Spain. Yeah, it was a whole. 423 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:26.680 Ordeal, disturbed, the allegations of like little boys, absolutely sick 424 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.160 and disgusting, deprived people. 425 00:23:29.319 --> 00:23:32.119 And there's a documentary on this and I actually I 426 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:32.480 put it on. 427 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:34.319 This guy was in charge of it and he was 428 00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.279 tied to Epstein too, Right, So this is how crazy 429 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:40.359 is the engine The people that are designing the bitcoin, 430 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:42.440 they're supposed to checkture to check and make sure it's 431 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.400 like okay, not being manipulated or being paid for and 432 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:47.599 funded by like guys like Epstein and this guy. 433 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:53.240 Yeah, the story gets even crazy, like I'm even processing 434 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:53.960 this stuff over the. 435 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.599 Last Yeah, I from proscent raise it was where I said, 436 00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.200 pretty much correct, that's like crazy. And then they wanted 437 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.119 like one more a y B shows gender. So they're 438 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:02.519 trying to make it so this would be the sole 439 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.200 way people could like buy and sell things in America 440 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.519 through these government projects. Is it a bitcoin? 441 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:13.680 Well see cash CBDCs are Yes, CBDCs are are in 442 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.720 an attempt to completely make our currency. 443 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:21.440 Centraally can everything there'll be no cash, nothing else, no bitcoin. 444 00:24:21.519 --> 00:24:22.880 That's that's what they're working towards. 445 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:25.920 Yes, and it gets worse than that. And again this 446 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:29.279 is actually my area of focus and expertise. There's something 447 00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:34.000 right now called the Clarity Act, so so CBDCs and 448 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:37.720 stable coins which I consider to be backdoor CBDCs, that 449 00:24:37.920 --> 00:24:41.960 is creating these digital tokens for you know that you 450 00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.759 used to buy and sell things, right, The Clarity Act 451 00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:49.160 is looking to create digital tokens that represent everything that 452 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.359 you own. So we're not just money only represents five 453 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:55.000 percent of overall assets. Most people don't have their net 454 00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:58.119 worth in money. They have it in real estate, they 455 00:24:58.119 --> 00:25:01.359 have it in stocks, bonds, you know, one case, gold, silver. 456 00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:05.240 The Clarity Act is looking to put in place regulations 457 00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:09.119 for the tokenization of all of those things. So imagine 458 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.319 what I was talking about in terms of, you know, 459 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:14.880 with a CBDC or these government regulated stable coins, they 460 00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:17.960 can program, track and censor your money. Now they'll be 461 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.839 able to program and track and censor everything that you own. 462 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:23.880 This is how big of a deal. 463 00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:25.960 They want to know? If I own gold, they want 464 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:28.640 my stocks. Potentially they could they could tax you on 465 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:29.319 your net worth. 466 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.960 Yeah, well tax you, or let's say they decide they 467 00:25:32.960 --> 00:25:34.599 don't like what you have to say. Let's say your 468 00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:38.599 controversial credit score is a little bit low. Social credit 469 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.640 scores a little bit low. I'm sorry, you can't sell 470 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.480 your stocks, you can't sell your bond. 471 00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.119 To have a check mark on X, it shows my 472 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:50.799 credit score is extremely low. It was stripped away from 473 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:52.559 me to fight despite being famous. 474 00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:57.599 Exactly well that this is what they're implementing now. This 475 00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:00.960 is actively going on now, even separate from from these files. 476 00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:03.480 They're putting the laws in place. And by the way, 477 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.680 we'll get to this, but Howard Lutnik, it turns out, 478 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:08.680 benefits from all of this. But going back to this 479 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:11.440 situation with Brock Pierce, so he has this thing in 480 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.319 the early two thousands, then he starts a company selling 481 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:21.240 digital gold within war of World of Warcraft, the video game, 482 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:25.680 and Steve Bannon ends up becoming the CEO of that company, 483 00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:28.200 which that all becomes weird because this is also tied 484 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:32.839 into the Epstein files. But it turns out Pierce met Epstein, 485 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:35.000 we think for the first time. It could have been 486 00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:38.319 before this, but in two thy and eleven on Little 487 00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.839 Saint James Island and he started advising him on crypto 488 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.680 all the way back then, and we didn't know any 489 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.720 of this. People didn't know. The only thing that we 490 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.039 knew about Epstein was we knew that he had this 491 00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:54.519 investment in this MIT group, and we know that there's 492 00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:58.480 one article that's ever been published where he was interviewed 493 00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:02.440 talking about crypto currency, and in that interview he says 494 00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.559 bitcoin is not a currency, it's a store of value. 495 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:11.000 So the only time Jeffrey Epstein ever said anything about bitcoin, 496 00:27:11.160 --> 00:27:12.960 it's to say that, oh, it's not peer to peer 497 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:16.000 digital cash as outlined in the white paper. It is 498 00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.359 digital gold. It's something you're supposed to This is. 499 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.240 So stupid, Like, I mean, I get it, I want 500 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.359 to go up in value, but there's no purpose if 501 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.519 we can't spend it as cash. At least that's how 502 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:25.440 my mind perceives it. 503 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:28.920 Yeah, that's generally how money works. I mean, you're not 504 00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.759 If you can't use it as a medium of exchange 505 00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:34.440 to buy and sell things, then it's not going to become. 506 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.359 Over They have to flee the country and have some bitcoin, 507 00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:37.640 and I can't buy anything with it. How am I 508 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:38.519 to flee the country? 509 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:40.200 Yeah? 510 00:27:40.279 --> 00:27:43.759 I can't plane ticket right now. I don't want to wait, like, 511 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.839 you know, an hour or two, seven days or whatever. 512 00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:48.880 So it's not really money if you can't buy something 513 00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.039 instantly interesting, So they didn't want. 514 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:53.400 It to be money. But at the same time, we 515 00:27:53.519 --> 00:27:57.559 now find out that Epstein invested in Blockstream, So he 516 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.839 invested in that company that I talked about earlier that 517 00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:05.319 benefits from bitcoin being kind of throttled at seven transactions 518 00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:09.799 per second. So in other words, he profited by bitcoin 519 00:28:09.920 --> 00:28:12.960 becoming slow and expensive by the creation of this new 520 00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.559 Blockstream company. But then it gets even worse than that. 521 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:23.079 This is the really bad and actually again we've only 522 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.960 scratched the surface of this, but it turns out he 523 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.799 invested in Blockstream eight months before he ended up. So 524 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.720 that Bitcoin foundation that I mentioned that brock Pierce was 525 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:37.319 the chair of that was responsible for funding these open 526 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:42.880 source developers, it collapsed in twenty fifteen. There were a 527 00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:45.000 lot of people that were willing to step up and 528 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.799 pick up the slack to fund the developer, but the group, 529 00:28:47.880 --> 00:28:52.640 miraculously that ended up saving the day was the MIT 530 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.839 group funded by Jeffrey Epstein. So, in other words, the 531 00:28:55.880 --> 00:29:01.079 group that brock Pierce, who's Epstein's crypto advisor. That group crashes, 532 00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.039 and then the group that Epstein is funding through mi 533 00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:08.519 T ends up taking over the funding of these developers, 534 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:12.720 and those developers cement the changes to bitcoin to keep 535 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.279 it slow and expensively supposed to be. 536 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:17.880 Really had to understand this. These are the guys that 537 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:19.759 make sure nothing's wrong with it, to make sure it's 538 00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.000 moving slow, make sure nothing's shady going on behind the scenes. 539 00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:24.720 These are the guys that are doing that. The guys 540 00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:28.039 that monitored it all are being funded by Jeffrey Epstein. 541 00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.880 They're being funded by Jeffrey Epstein, and they're the gatekeepers 542 00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.440 for the code changes. So there were code changes that 543 00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:38.079 were made and cemented during this time period to make 544 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:41.200 sure that it couldn't have big blocks, and couldn't do 545 00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:43.519 a lot of transactions, and couldn't be used as peer 546 00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:47.279 to peer digital cash. All of those changes happened through 547 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.319 this group that was funded by Epstein through mi T, 548 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.359 and then Epstein was an investor in a company that 549 00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.279 benefited from those changes. 550 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.880 Yeah, this is like, I don't know that's bitcoin, but 551 00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:01.640 this is this is crazy. That's like, so it was 552 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.279 intentionally slowed down. You say big blocks, so if it's 553 00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:07.640 smaller blocks, it moves faster. I'm sorry, I'm like, I 554 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:08.720 don't know anything about it. Quick. 555 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.279 If there's smaller blocks, the blocks are how many transactions 556 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.039 you can actually process. And bitcoin works every ten minutes, 557 00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:18.480 new blocks are added to the blockchain, and you have 558 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.519 these computers all over the world that are computing to 559 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.839 solve these math puzzles, and if your computer wins, you 560 00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:26.039 get what's called the block reward, and then you get 561 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.480 to be the one that adds the transactions to the blockchain, 562 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.119 and then you get the transaction fees as well, on 563 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.960 top of the little block reward that you get. If 564 00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.400 the blocks are small, then you can only have a 565 00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:42.279 set number of transactions every ten minutes. The original design 566 00:30:42.599 --> 00:30:45.599 in the white paper had no block size at all. 567 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.880 There was a one minute block size put in very early, 568 00:30:49.720 --> 00:30:51.759 just as they were testing things and trying to get 569 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.160 the network to work. And then these people came in 570 00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:56.400 and tried you know, imagine you're like you're tinkering with 571 00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.680 something and you're trying it out. You put in this 572 00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:01.559 little small test that variable because no one's using the 573 00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:03.359 software and you're trying to work out the kinks, and 574 00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:05.000 then other people come in and say, oh, that thing 575 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.519 that we put in for, you know, for testing purposes, 576 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:09.960 that's now a permanent hard cap, and now we're going 577 00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:13.640 to completely build the entire system based on this. 578 00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:17.319 You don't how many engineers they had hired what You 579 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.440 don't how many engineers they had hired to do this 580 00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:19.799 or no. 581 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.079 Well, it's an open source project, so there are a 582 00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:25.599 lot of people that committed to it. But the MIT 583 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.759 group funded three primary developers, and we even know their names. 584 00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.799 This story gets even more wild, and I had even 585 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.079 reported on this. One of the developers that that MIT 586 00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.079 took over the funding for is a guy named Corey Fields. 587 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.359 Corey Fields worked on again I don't want to get 588 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.880 two technical, but Segue and Lightning Network, which are the 589 00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:53.079 two projects that really capped, you know, cemented bitcoin as 590 00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.279 digital gold instead of digital cash. So this guy, Corey 591 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:59.720 Field's worked on those projects. He later then became a 592 00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:04.480 co author through MIT of Project Hamilton. Project Hamilton is 593 00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:09.799 the CBDC pilot that MIT worked on with the Federal 594 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.839 Reserve that was designed to replace the dollar. 595 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:13.599 Damn. 596 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:15.680 And so let me put this in perspective. They took 597 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:17.839 bitcoin that was supposed to be used as cash with 598 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:21.640 no limitation on how many transactions per second. They thrated 599 00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.000 at seven transactions per second. One of the developers that 600 00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:28.160 was involved in that, Corey Fields, went on to work 601 00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:32.640 on building the digital dollar through Project Hamilton. That project 602 00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:37.039 can do one point seven million transactions per second. 603 00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.799 Wait, so he designed one really quick and slowed down bitcoin. 604 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:46.839 Well no, he didn't slow it down. He was just 605 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:49.880 one of the people him. But basically, the same people 606 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.319 that are trying to sload on bitcoin, they designed their 607 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:53.559 own to be extremely fast. 608 00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:56.680 They designed their own to be extremely fast. 609 00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:58.799 So that's how good this is. And this one's not 610 00:32:58.960 --> 00:32:59.720 kind of a scenario. 611 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:04.400 Yes, so people are saying, well, hey, you know, bitcoin's 612 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:06.279 now digital gold, and then they came up with this 613 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.160 thing where it's called Lightning Network that they said would 614 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.160 ultimately be cash. But yet at the same time, the 615 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:14.160 same developers that hobbled bitcoin created a completely different project, 616 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:19.359 Project Hamilton, that would be controlled centrally by the government. 617 00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.079 And so like, this is a I mean, this is 618 00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.839 a massive hijacking, right, So this is like we're so 619 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.799 we basically neutered bitcoin. If you go back to two 620 00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.680 thousand and nine, banks, you know they didn't realize it 621 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.400 right away, but banks started to get worried about bitcoin. 622 00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:38.000 Right if people started using bitcoin instead of our printed 623 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.880 out of air fake stuff that we're doing, then this 624 00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:42.039 could be a real threat. So they came in and 625 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.240 made it some bitcoin couldn't be used for that purpose, 626 00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:47.319 and then the central bank itself, the Federal Reserve Bank, 627 00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.839 worked with some bitcoin developers to create a centralized version 628 00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:54.000 that they could fully control. 629 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:56.920 Yeah, I'm shocked, but I shouldn't be. I shouldn't be. 630 00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.559 I mean, is this fixable or should we save that 631 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:00.920 question for the end? 632 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.079 Well, I'm not even done. But wait, there's more. 633 00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:05.680 That's what I'm saying. That's all say that question. Think, 634 00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:07.440 I know there's a lot more. It's just like crazy 635 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.760 hearing all this and like trying to process this. I mean, 636 00:34:10.760 --> 00:34:13.079 I should I shouldn't be shocked because we know these 637 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:13.920 people were dealing with. 638 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.760 I mean, so, so they shifted this narrative, and so 639 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:23.039 it's again now no longer digital cash. Now we're saying 640 00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:25.320 it's it's digital gold. But in order for it to 641 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:29.079 be successful as digital gold, it would have to either 642 00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.360 retain its value or go up in price, right, I mean, 643 00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.000 obviously a bitcoin fell in value, then people wouldn't buy 644 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.840 the digital gold narrative. Well, now enter brock Pierce again. 645 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.239 So brock Pierce again is involved in the blow up 646 00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.840 of the Bitcoin Foundation, handing the devs over to MI. 647 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.400 I t that then work on, you know, slowing Bitcoin down. 648 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:54.280 He's a co founder of Tether. Tether is what's called 649 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.679 a stable coin. So it is a cryptocurrency where what 650 00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:02.960 one you know, coin equals one dollar. And now in 651 00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:06.719 theory it's supposed to be backed by dollars or things 652 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.199 that are worth dollars, so that you know, I mean, 653 00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:10.800 if I create a token and I say it's worth 654 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.000 a dollar, then you know, presumably it's backed by. 655 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.320 Something it should be it should be. 656 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.119 Well, it turns out on two separate occasions, once by 657 00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.000 the CFTC and once by the State of New York, 658 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.960 Tether was found to not actually have the assets backing. 659 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.000 They don't even have the big tell you they didn't. 660 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.000 They don't have that. They don't have dollars, gold, bitcoin, 661 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.199 they don't. They don't have the assets necessary to be 662 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.039 able to make the claim that one tether is worth 663 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.480 one dollar. In fact, I think in one of one 664 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.239 of the analysis they they determined that they had only 665 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:44.519 twenty six percent coverage. 666 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.480 They're printing money out of thin air, just like the 667 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:50.880 Federal Reserve, like without without that illegally, and no one 668 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:52.239 I assume. 669 00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.039 No, oh no, it's and it's it's like it's like 670 00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.559 a metaponzi. Right, we're printing money out of thin air, 671 00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.280 and then they're printing tokens out of thin air backed 672 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.800 by these other the dollar that's printed out of thin air, 673 00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:05.320 Like this is a new level of Ponzi scheme. Yeah, 674 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:09.920 but here's the kicker. In twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen was 675 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.880 a huge year for the price of bitcoin increasing, and 676 00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.840 this is where people started to get really excited about 677 00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.199 it and think, hey, maybe this is a store of value, 678 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.559 maybe this is something that would compete with gold Well 679 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.920 University of Texas did an analysis that found that fifty 680 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:30.679 percent of the increase in price of bitcoin was due 681 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.039 to tether. So, in other words, it looks like they 682 00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:37.719 printed they printed tether out of finn air to pump 683 00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:43.159 the price of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. So I know 684 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:44.719 this story is complex. 685 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.480 I've chocked. I haven't heard this all yet. This is crazy. 686 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:49.639 I know there's stuff all over the Epstein files in there. 687 00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.440 But isn't Tether tied in? Isn't there some ties with 688 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:56.280 Howard Lutnik? Or no, Yeah, that guy's a demon. It's 689 00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:57.880 looking at him disgusts me. 690 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:03.280 The Howard Now, the Howard Lutnick story starts now. Now 691 00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:04.840 keep in mind one of the other things that we've 692 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.519 learned about all of this. So, so brock Pierce is 693 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:11.360 a co founder of Tether, and in the emails, you know, 694 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.440 we see that he's advising Epstein on a whole bunch 695 00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.320 of investments. One of the other investments that we just 696 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.320 learned in the last week that Epstein invested in and 697 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:24.920 is a company called Circle. Circle is the second largest 698 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:27.760 stable coin. So Tether's a stable coin. You know, one 699 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.599 cooin equals one dollar, so is that Circle has something 700 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:35.800 called USDC. Turns out Epstein invested in that very early 701 00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:39.320 through brock Pierce. We even have the email where he says, hey, 702 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.199 you know, here are the documents for the investment fund 703 00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.480 that we're going to use to funnel your funds. And 704 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.400 so I went and looked up, okay, well what did 705 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:50.239 this cryptocurrency partners invest in? And that lo and behold 706 00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:55.639 there it is circle. So Epstein's involved in funding stable 707 00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:58.119 coins at the very beginning. Now I don't have proof 708 00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:02.519 of this yet because tethers as a really shady history 709 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.119 in terms of the shell companies and everything involved and 710 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.280 who owns what. But I would be stunned if Epstein wasn't, 711 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:15.199 through some backdoor channel, an early investor in Tether as well. 712 00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:20.800 And so so anyway, so Brock starts Tether. Tether is 713 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:25.400 responsible for a big part of the price appreciation of bitcoin, 714 00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:28.159 and they have all these struggles. They've never been able 715 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:31.800 to pass an audit. Never they have. In fact, they've 716 00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:34.679 they've gotten to the point where no audit firm will 717 00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:38.039 even work with them to try to do an audit 718 00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.119 to see if the reserves are there. 719 00:38:41.039 --> 00:38:43.000 All of a sudden, if me and you started a 720 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.800 company like this and did this, would you be arrested 721 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.599 or would they just ignore us too? If not, let's 722 00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.360 just get our own going. We can sell bitcoin. It 723 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:52.360 doesn't exist. 724 00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:55.199 Well, it depends on how politically connected we are. 725 00:38:55.400 --> 00:38:57.360 I guess it depends on how there No person would 726 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.199 be arrested crack. This is like something that doesn't no personally, 727 00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:02.719 you'd be arresd Yeah, this sea's the same to me. Okay, 728 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.199 I just wanted to make sure of getting that. Okay, absolutely, 729 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.880 this is the immediate go to jail. Do not collect 730 00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:10.480 two hundred dollars. If not, I was gonna start selling bitcoin. 731 00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:16.320 Right well, so now so tether that never passes not it, 732 00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:18.960 And then all of a sudden, Howard Lutnick gets involved. 733 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.559 Now Howard Lutnick several things we now know. He was 734 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:26.079 tied to Epstein. He claims to he claimed to not 735 00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.719 have been. He claimed that, you know, he visited his 736 00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:31.000 New York apartment in two thousand and five or two 737 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.920 thousand and six and was disgusted. And it turns out 738 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.760 he's Epstein's next door neighbor. It turns out they've done 739 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:42.760 business deals together. It turns out he's invested alongside Epstein, 740 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:47.079 and so Lutnick lied. He actually just explicitly lied about 741 00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:50.239 the nature of his relationship with Epstein. But all of 742 00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:52.440 a sudden he comes in and gets involved with tether 743 00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:57.800 and and he invests his firm, Canter Fitzgerald, invests six 744 00:39:57.920 --> 00:39:58.880 hundred million. 745 00:39:58.599 --> 00:40:00.440 Dollars in technics Jo money. 746 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.440 And the reason that they did this is so that 747 00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:09.119 his firm Canter Fitzgerald could manage all of the treasuries 748 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:16.079 backing tether. So now what's interesting about this is, remember 749 00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:19.079 they've never done an audit before, and there's never been 750 00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.920 any regulation on stable coins that state, you know, if 751 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.559 you have a stable coin, you know, you could have 752 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:28.320 a stable coin in back it by gold or by bitcoin, 753 00:40:28.440 --> 00:40:31.159 or by land or whatever it happens to be. There's 754 00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:32.960 nothing that says that you have to have a stable 755 00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.519 coin that's backed by treasuries. Well, Lutnik gets involved, cuts 756 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.639 this deal to manage what I believe is now one 757 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:40.960 hundred and eighty billion dollars worth of treasuries. It wasn't 758 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:44.039 that at that time, and then all of a sudden 759 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:47.039 gets involved in government. Now you have to understand, Lutnik 760 00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:50.920 is not a diehard Republican. People did not know who 761 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:55.280 Lutnick was politically. In fact, the Epstein files show he 762 00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.880 was trying to get money from Epstein for a fundraiser 763 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.480 that he was doing for Hillary Clinton. He did a 764 00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:04.519 fundraiser for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen. Right, So this 765 00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.079 guy is not known in Republican circles. He's not even 766 00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.239 that kind of politically active. He invests in tether to 767 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:12.079 manage the treasuries, and then all of a sudden he 768 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:17.199 becomes the chair of Trump's transition Committee, which is a 769 00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:21.280 powerful role. It's that role is responsible for recruiting members 770 00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:26.119 of the entire cabinet, so the Treasury Secretary, Defense Secretary, 771 00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:28.639 all of those people. This is something that as heading 772 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.239 up the transition team, Lutnick is like right in the 773 00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:34.280 middle of That's kind of odd to have this power 774 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.199 when you have no political experience and the last thing 775 00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.679 that you did was do a fundraiser for Trump's competitor 776 00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.960 in twenty sixteen, Lutnik was actually trying to put himself 777 00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.880 up for Treasury secretary. So think about the conflict here. 778 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.159 He's just negotiated a deal to manage all the treasuries 779 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.440 for tether and now he's trying to get the role 780 00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:54.079 of tracery secretary. 781 00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:57.199 That's a conflict of interest to this guy. I know 782 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.000 who he was till recently, but I just get like 783 00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.119 I discussed when I look him, and he was he 784 00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:02.719 bought a home from Epstein, like he said he was 785 00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:04.679 next on Avery, he bought a home from He had 786 00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:06.679 one of those guys that happened to miswork on nine 787 00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:09.840 to eleven. Again, they lived in units nine and eleven. 788 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.360 Interesting things. It's like, there's something about this guy just 789 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:13.360 absolutely disgusts me. 790 00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.920 Well is, as you dig into it, there are allegations 791 00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:19.119 of and I want to say allegations, I don't want 792 00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.159 to get into trouble. There's allegations of money laundering. You're 793 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:26.920 right that he wasn't there on nine to eleven. And 794 00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:31.400 there are even allegations that he misappropriated funds for the 795 00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.400 victim relief for his company from nine to eleven. Like, 796 00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:36.639 it's just the more you dig into this, the worse 797 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:40.920 that it gets. But now let's fast forward. They passed 798 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:44.320 this thing called the Genius Act, and the Genius this 799 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:48.679 just happened. Trump pushed this. The Genius Act says that 800 00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:52.320 in order to be a legal stable coin, you have 801 00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:58.440 to back your stable coin by only US treasuries. So, 802 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.920 in other words, Howard Lutnik in his firm, is the 803 00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:06.679 single biggest beneficiary of the Genius Act. And now you 804 00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:12.440 know he's essentially managing all of the money that backs tether. Now, 805 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:15.679 to put this in scale, this kind of I think 806 00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.599 this is the biggest financial scandal in human history. And 807 00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.679 I know it's a little bit complicated. 808 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:23.719 In saying though it sounds huge. 809 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.880 There's this there's this book by G. Edward Griffin called 810 00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:31.079 The Creature from Jackal Island and and it talks about 811 00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:33.360 it's a great book, and he talks about how the 812 00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:35.800 Federal Reserve was created. Basically, you know, a bunch of 813 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.559 shadowy guys got together off of the coast of Georgia 814 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:42.079 and decided, Hey, you know, we're going to create a 815 00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:44.519 new monetary system where we print the money out of 816 00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.119 thin air back by government debt. And that's the system 817 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.760 that we have. If you look at what Lutnik's doing, 818 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.519 he's creating a you know, I mean, I might call 819 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.639 it the Creature from Epstein's Eye Island, a situation here 820 00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.679 where we're now having a digital currency, right, so from 821 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:05.000 our perspective as citizens now it's a it's a you understand, 822 00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:10.000 tether can be tracked and programmed and censored. And this 823 00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:13.719 happens all of the time. People are constantly having Even 824 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.719 before the Genius Act, people were having these tethers seized. 825 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.800 Yeah, and I've noticed tons of tezul I look that up, 826 00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:23.000 tons of tetherwall. It's received like constantly. 827 00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:27.079 Constantly sees This is even before the Genius Act. But essentially, 828 00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.239 imagine now we are creating a digital dollar where we 829 00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.360 have less freedom, we have less financial privacy. But instead 830 00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.280 of having the Federal Reserve, which is a group of 831 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:41.719 private banks, there's one firm controlling all of the treasuries 832 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:45.440 backing Tether, and it's Canter Fitzgerald. This guy's becoming like 833 00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:51.119 the new Federal Reserve. And so every time you spend Tether, 834 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.559 you're making money for Howard Lutnik and his firm. He 835 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.920 has a complete control over every transaction that's done through tether. 836 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.920 This is this is an unprecedented front. And remember this 837 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.199 is a Tether's is a crypto project that's still never 838 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.119 passed an audit. And what they've been able to do 839 00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.559 with these tether in addition to pumping up the price 840 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.960 of cryptocurrencies, they've purchased like twenty four tons of gold, 841 00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:18.960 They're buying land, they're buying real assets with these tokens 842 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.599 that no one can determine if they've ever been backed 843 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:25.039 by anything. And now Lutnik is there in the center 844 00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:28.519 after pushing a law that he personally benefits from. You know, 845 00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:31.760 all these people complain about Nancy Pelosi and insider trading. 846 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:34.039 What do you call it when you, you know, cut 847 00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:39.679 a deal to to essentially manage all of the money 848 00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:43.239 beyond the Yeah, it's it's beyond that. I don't even 849 00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:45.719 know how to how to examine this. So then now 850 00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:48.400 this is what what we're dealing with here. This is 851 00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:51.920 the size and the scale of this. And so you know, 852 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:57.360 we get less freedom, Howard Lutnik gets more money and uh, 853 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.280 and this is happening without people resist or knowing about it. 854 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:03.800 Yeah, is this like widely known what you're talking about? 855 00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:06.320 Because I have not. This is insane what you're telling me. 856 00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.000 And I have not seen this around and follow the 857 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:10.559 bitcoins stuff. But I did see he was I did 858 00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.480 see let Nick all over it, but I don't understand 859 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:13.599 the depth of it. 860 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:17.119 So this is the problem, and this is kind of 861 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:19.280 the problem with politics. And I left this part out, 862 00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:21.599 But I actually ran for president in twenty twenty four 863 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:27.519 specifically to raise awareness about the threat of CBDCs. So 864 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:30.960 my book that I mentioned, the Final Countdown, Vivek Ramaswami 865 00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:34.480 read the book. I had three conversations with him about it. 866 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.559 He pushed Trump to come out against cbdc's the night 867 00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:42.480 before the presidential primary in New Hampshire, and so he 868 00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.800 signed an executive order that says the United States will 869 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.159 not have a central bank digital currency. So the problem is, 870 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.880 because obviously we're even going through this conversation, it's technical. 871 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:54.800 You have to unpack, you have to understand how the 872 00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.880 current system works to understand. So most people just dismissed 873 00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:00.760 it and said, yeah, mag you know, we're not going 874 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.320 to have a digital you know, a CDC. And so 875 00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:07.800 everybody's been completely disarmed. And now what they've done is 876 00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:10.800 they've passed essentially a backdoor CBDC. So rather than having 877 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.199 the Federal Reserve issue it, let's just have something that 878 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.239 you know, you know Howard Lutnick and Canter Fitzgerald could issue. Now, 879 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:21.000 Teather's not the only stable coin, but it ends up 880 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.960 being the same the same outcome as we have with 881 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.280 the Federal Reserve. You have a small group of people 882 00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.559 managing all of the money that are then issuing digital 883 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:34.159 tokens that are controlled by the government and the Federal Reserve. 884 00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.639 It's a complete loss for us. And I will tell 885 00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:40.320 you how bad this is. Last year there was thirty 886 00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:44.119 three trillion dollars worth of transaction volume using these stable coins. 887 00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:48.880 That's more than VISA, right. This is a so imagine 888 00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.000 if Kamala Harris had won and said we're going to 889 00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:55.840 implement a CBDC shed bring in some like DEI squad, 890 00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.000 and they'd never figured it out, they would have never 891 00:47:58.039 --> 00:47:59.719 implemented it, right, It would have been kind of like, 892 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:00.599 I'm acare. 893 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.519 Is too down? A bunch of bumbling idiots. 894 00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:06.880 Yeah, complete bubblemics. In this case, we captured thirty three 895 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.440 trillion dollars worth of transaction volume and we're and we're 896 00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:12.519 putting that now under control of Congress. The same people 897 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.039 that give you know, your customer laws, the same people 898 00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:18.079 that do the transaction reports, the same people that share 899 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.639 your information, you know, banks share your information with the 900 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:23.400 IRS and can debank you. This is what this has 901 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:28.480 actually already happened. This legislation has passed, and it's implemented, 902 00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.920 and Tether just I think two weeks ago, launched the 903 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:34.880 you know, the first official stable coin under this Genius Act, 904 00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:36.519 and so this has happened. I've been one of the 905 00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:39.719 only people trying to sound the alarm on this, and 906 00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.800 the Clarity Act is worse because this is going to 907 00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:46.440 apply now this level of control to your retirement fund 908 00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:48.880 and your and you know, stocks, bonds and gold and 909 00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.800 everything else like this is this is the digital tyranny 910 00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:52.800 that I've been trying. 911 00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.320 To Yes, like very big deal. Hopefully we get some 912 00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.920 traction on this interview. I mean, would you be willing 913 00:48:57.960 --> 00:48:59.840 to do a debate if someone likes trying to disagree 914 00:48:59.880 --> 00:49:02.840 with stuff, because it's seems pretty straightforward to me. But 915 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:04.519 if I know there's been some pushback on some of 916 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:06.599 the stuff you're saying, I. 917 00:49:06.719 --> 00:49:08.719 Would do a debate on this. But here's the funny thing. 918 00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:11.039 So most of the people that are arguing about this 919 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:15.960 are arguing about hijacking bitcoin from the perspective of bitcoin 920 00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:17.559 versus bitcoin cash. 921 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:22.199 And these these with that argument happening, That's. 922 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.679 Not what I'm talking about the threat. So this is 923 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:28.320 this is my argument about going all the way back 924 00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.480 to the whole point of bitcoin. The point of bitcoin 925 00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:33.440 after the two thousand and eight collapse was we need 926 00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.079 money that we can use, that sound money, and that 927 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.960 we won't have these filthy bankers in the middle of 928 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:45.159 or governments regulating. Right, we don't have that because bitcoin 929 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.440 can't be that back. Bitcoin still only does seven transactions 930 00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:52.960 per second. But there's one other problem with bitcoin that 931 00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:57.039 I didn't mention. Bitcoin is not anonymous. In fact, bitcoin 932 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:01.679 is heavily tracked because it's an open ledger. So once 933 00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:04.960 you know one transaction that somebody did, you can actually 934 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:09.199 track their entire history. There's a company called chain Analysis 935 00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:13.519 that since twenty fourteen, has been working with law enforcement 936 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:19.039 agencies around the world, working with cryptocurrency exchanges to track 937 00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:23.760 and identify everyone's bitcoin transactions. Last year, I had three 938 00:50:23.800 --> 00:50:27.880 different people come to me with either business disputes or 939 00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.079 a divorce. And this is how bad this has gotten. 940 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:36.960 Private investigators can now earn a certification in chain analysis 941 00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:40.880 that gives them access to tools where they can track bitcoin. 942 00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:44.880 So in this one case, they were able to find 943 00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:48.400 more of this person's bitcoin transactions going back over a 944 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.719 long time period, longer time period than they could get 945 00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:54.000 from the bank because the bank typically only holds records 946 00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.760 for seven years. So if you understand that the threat 947 00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.480 is technocracy, that the threat is having money, imagine COVID 948 00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:04.440 under this situation. Imagine again I mentioned this before, but 949 00:51:04.719 --> 00:51:08.239 they could determine Hey, your business, you're a non essential business. 950 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:11.119 We're shutting off your access to money. We're shutting off 951 00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:14.639 your control to the supply chain. This isn't a conspiracy 952 00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.079 theory about whether the government will do these things. We've 953 00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:18.239 lived through this. 954 00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.679 So this is what may be political COVID. They they 955 00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:25.000 forced it on me. Oh, this is really incerting, and 956 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:26.639 I think it is what it is. People don't want 957 00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:29.079 to hear this because bitcoin, the idea is so amazing 958 00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.719 of a way to cut the government out. They don't 959 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:34.639 have control, they can't track our stuff, and then boom, 960 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.480 you see the offit. So it's like disheartening. So people 961 00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.440 who don't want to you know, they want to reject idea. 962 00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:41.639 But I think this is very concerning. We need to 963 00:51:41.639 --> 00:51:43.800 figure out a way to make it actually for the people. 964 00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.360 Again, well we didn't make it for the people. But 965 00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:47.960 the problem is that with the people that are that 966 00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.960 are you know, trying to put the alternate position on this, 967 00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:56.920 they're Bitcoin is not an alternative to this tyranny because 968 00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.559 it's still seven transactions per second, and because it can 969 00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:01.960 be tracked. So people still try to they're taking the 970 00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:05.480 yet fixed in your opinion from fifteen years ago, it 971 00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.599 can't be fixed. Well, right now, it's actually getting worse. 972 00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.559 They're actually debates now going on within the bitcoin community 973 00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:14.960 to make to make it even less useful, to make 974 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:16.880 the blocks, to make it so that you can put 975 00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:17.679 less information. 976 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:21.119 They really just want it's like gold the government. They 977 00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:22.519 want it as gold the government. 978 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.400 And there's there's this clip that I play, which is 979 00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:28.880 it's it's like two minutes of Roger talking for it's 980 00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:31.119 the first time I saw Roger talking about bitcoin from 981 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:34.079 that conference in like twenty twelve. And then there's Michael 982 00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:37.000 Sailor who's now the front man for this, and everybody 983 00:52:37.199 --> 00:52:40.159 is all enthusiastic about Michael Sailor, who has this company 984 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:42.239 called Strategy, and he keeps on buying more and more 985 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.800 of itd But what Michael Sailor says in his clip 986 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.880 is bitcoin isn't about competing with the dollar. It's not 987 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.400 about competing with the euro or MasterCard or visa. It's 988 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:54.840 about complying with know your customer, it's about paying your taxes, 989 00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:57.880 and it's about being digital gold. Well I will tell 990 00:52:57.880 --> 00:53:01.400 you that. Okay, Well, even if you bought the argument 991 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.000 that it's digital gold, what do we have as an 992 00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:09.000 alternative to these tyrannical central bank digital currencies and stable 993 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:13.719 coins that are completely controlled by the government. We now 994 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:19.239 don't have an alternative to that, and so we need 995 00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:21.880 this or you know, we're basically going to find ourselves 996 00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:25.079 living in a complete digital prison. So so my argument 997 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:28.800 isn't about which flavor of bitcoin. So the only way 998 00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:33.000 that you can defeat a technocratic state like this, a 999 00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.440 surveillance state, is through privacy. So most of the people 1000 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.360 that want to debate me probably think that it's a 1001 00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:41.400 debate about bitcoin cash versus bitcoin. 1002 00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:44.559 I think that's I think I missed the point of it. 1003 00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:46.239 That's what it seemed when I was asking people, oh, 1004 00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:49.679 why is this a scam? And they weren't even addressing 1005 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:53.159 anything that the issues were. That's exactly what I actually, 1006 00:53:53.199 --> 00:53:54.400 that's what I run it to you, because people are 1007 00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:55.400 like mad at me for talking about it, and I 1008 00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:56.960 was trying to fire what their issues were. It doesn't 1009 00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:58.639 even seem like they were looking at the same issues 1010 00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:00.480 I was looking at. It's like we're having we weren't 1011 00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:01.440 having the same conversation. 1012 00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:05.400 Right. So I've been living on crypto since twenty nineteen, 1013 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.119 and I've used different cryptos. I'm not a I'm not 1014 00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.159 what's called a maximalist, and these things turn into like 1015 00:54:11.159 --> 00:54:14.039 like religious cults, like you can't. I've noticed that if 1016 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.239 your project deviates from their project in any way, then 1017 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:19.119 you're a heretic. And you know it's a horrible thing. 1018 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.800 And you know whatever, I'm a I'm a freedom maximalist 1019 00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:25.239 and i am a we need to do everything that 1020 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.639 we can to get people out of the current system. 1021 00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:29.400 And what I've been saying, you know, even when I 1022 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:31.159 ran for president, is we need if you want to 1023 00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:33.880 stop funding these wars all over the world, if you 1024 00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:36.119 don't like our foreign policy, if you want to stop 1025 00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.079 funding both sides and whatever's going on in Minnesota, stop 1026 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.679 using the dollar if we are if we are complicit 1027 00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.800 in using that. But the solution to this, I've moved 1028 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:49.400 entirely into privacy coins. We need to be able to 1029 00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:52.599 engage in transactions that aren't on an open ledger that 1030 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:56.639 can be tracked and frozen. And so I've moved over 1031 00:54:56.639 --> 00:55:01.719 the last couple of years entirely into either physical gold 1032 00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:03.679 or silver, which is rare for day to day trains. 1033 00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:05.960 Actually you actually have you need to have the gold 1034 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.760 and silver. Don't have paper because it might be more 1035 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:08.320 of these stuff. 1036 00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:13.079 It doesn't exist, correct, correct, And by the way, they'll 1037 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.039 tokenize that and track that as well, so it can 1038 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.840 be confiscated and so on and so forth. Not to 1039 00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:22.440 fear too much, but I mean FDR confiscated gold. Now 1040 00:55:22.519 --> 00:55:25.320 it's making this digital gold analogy. People are now buying 1041 00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:28.679 bitcoin through these ETFs. So like the black Rock has 1042 00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:32.519 an ETF and fidelity and everything else. Analyze the contracts. 1043 00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.599 The contracts say if something happens to the bitcoin, if 1044 00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.400 they're stolen, you don't even have FDIC insurance. There's a 1045 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.000 clause in there about this could be confiscated. You know 1046 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:43.119 how much easier it would be for the government to 1047 00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:44.599 go to Black Rock and say, hey, we want to 1048 00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:48.079 we've decided we're confiscating bitcoin. They'll take all of the 1049 00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:52.280 bitcoin in the ETF. Right, It's not even great when 1050 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:55.559 your thing is completely trackable and now you're holding it 1051 00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.719 through third parties that are regulated, you have no control. 1052 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:02.079 Trust Larry told you a bitcoin. 1053 00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.079 Yeah, I mean Larry Fink, and then you know, and 1054 00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.320 then he holds it at coin base, which epstein is. 1055 00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.440 I actually have some crypto and coinbase, but I was 1056 00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:12.000 transferring my friendly told me to transferred out some of 1057 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:19.119 it transferred to like Zano and f usd. He's he's 1058 00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.000 a big, big cooin guy. That's what. I don't know 1059 00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:22.719 a lot about it. That's what he had me switched 1060 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:24.639 some of it to, not all of it. 1061 00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:27.360 But so this so this is this is what I've 1062 00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:31.079 I've moved to privacy coins. And I first started with Minaro, 1063 00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:36.039 which is kind of the you know, the most known player. 1064 00:56:36.119 --> 00:56:39.320 But over the last eighteen months, I've moved you know, 1065 00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:44.559 most into uh something called zano UH. And Zyno is 1066 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:48.239 a it's a privacy coin that was created by the 1067 00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.199 same guy that actually created the technology behind the narrow 1068 00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:54.159 So it's kind of it's got hardcore tech behind it. 1069 00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:58.039 But what's neat about Zyo is Zeno allows you to 1070 00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:01.639 create tokens. You can tokenize other assets. So just like 1071 00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:04.440 if you look at what the governments are doing and 1072 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.559 these other players, they're tokenizing the dollar, they're tokenizing everything else, 1073 00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:10.199 but they're doing this in a way that they can 1074 00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:14.960 control it. Zeno allows you to tokenize different assets and 1075 00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:18.639 trade them with complete privacy. So I'll give you one 1076 00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:23.639 example of tokenization with Zeno. It's something called Freedom Dollar. 1077 00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.239 So Freedom dollar is a stable coin. So you know, 1078 00:57:27.320 --> 00:57:31.039 one FUSD is the is the ticker symbol. One FUSD 1079 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.639 equals one dollar, just like tether, except the difference is 1080 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:39.880 Freedom Dollar isn't backed by US treasuries. It's actually backed 1081 00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:44.519 by overclateralized zaeno. It's what's called an algorithmic stable coin. 1082 00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:48.480 So you're not funding government tyranny when you use this, 1083 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:52.480 but it's completely private. It has mo narrow level privacy. 1084 00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:56.639 So I use Freedom Dollar another example, and you ask 1085 00:57:56.760 --> 00:57:57.880 is there anything that can be done? 1086 00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.199 Yeah, I was just talking to these guys on or 1087 00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:02.559 the Zayo guys. We are going back and forth because 1088 00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.360 I was like I said a friends that it was good. 1089 00:58:04.360 --> 00:58:05.880 But it's like I'm trying to like all these projects, 1090 00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:07.880 I'm trying to track down make sure it's legit. But 1091 00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:11.119 the guys seem cool. But it's that's funny. 1092 00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:11.639 Well it seems. 1093 00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:12.159 Well. 1094 00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:13.880 I'm actually in Mexico City right now. I'm going to 1095 00:58:13.920 --> 00:58:16.960 be speaking at a conference called Minerotopia tonight, so it's 1096 00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:18.920 going to have all the privacy projects there. 1097 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.519 So all these all these privacy projects are great. Minera 1098 00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:22.760 that's the other one that I've been hearing a lot 1099 00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.679 about Narrow and Zano are the two that I've heard about. 1100 00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:30.159 Yeah, Naro, Naro and Zeno, and I I like them both. 1101 00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:32.199 I use them both. I like Zeno because I think 1102 00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:35.760 they're bigger applications, but we need both. In fact, we 1103 00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:37.920 need more, we need more privacy. 1104 00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:40.519 Yeah, I'm not going to pick one and like be like, hey, 1105 00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:42.639 this is the one, just like go to a privacy 1106 00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:43.920 and we want a few of these. I don't. I 1107 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:45.440 don't want to be one of the guys that like, hey, 1108 00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:48.280 this is the only thing I believe in. Back to 1109 00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:51.960 freedom dollar real quick. So that is basically for like 1110 00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:55.639 you actually buying and selling it really fast. I'm sorry, 1111 00:58:55.639 --> 00:58:57.239 I'm a little no, that's exactly how it works. 1112 00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:00.239 Well, this is for making you know, normal pain. So 1113 00:59:00.679 --> 00:59:05.079 Zeno like like other cryptocurrencies, it's somewhat volatile, although it 1114 00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:08.360 has there's some attributes to it that I like. People 1115 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:10.679 buy it because they need it to use it for 1116 00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:14.119 these other projects that are tokenized on Zeno. But I'll 1117 00:59:14.119 --> 00:59:18.360 hold Zeno, excuse me, free a bunch of freedom dollar 1118 00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.559 in my account and then I use it for living expenses. 1119 00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:24.840 Yeah I don't. Oh, now, my friend taught me how 1120 00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:26.400 to put my bitcoin on here, and I think that's 1121 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:28.320 what he used, right. I just scan it like when 1122 00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:29.920 I buy food now because I didn't know how to 1123 00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:31.360 do that, Like oh cool, Now I can just scan 1124 00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:32.639 this and like like a credit card. 1125 00:59:33.679 --> 00:59:35.519 Yeah there, so there's a credit. So there's another part 1126 00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:37.440 of this that I use something called z bec, a 1127 00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:42.000 Zbeck MasterCard and this zbek MasterCard. You can actually load 1128 00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:46.159 your freedom dollar right onto this master card, which you 1129 00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.119 can use everywhere master cards accepted. So I'm literally in 1130 00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.599 Mexico City. Everything that I've purchased on this trip, from 1131 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:55.840 the airline tickets to the hotel, to uber and everything else, 1132 00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:59.519 I purchased using Freedom Dollar, which I loaded onto this 1133 00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.039 zebec astrocard. It is my go to thing. So, as 1134 01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:04.119 I said, I've been living on crypto. I guess it's 1135 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.280 seven years now, and it's been hard. You know, there 1136 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.400 have been a lot of projects have failed and everything else. 1137 01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:11.480 This is so far. This is actually the easiest way 1138 01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:12.840 to do it. You can do it right from your 1139 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:16.440 phone that the funds gets transferred instantly. Sometimes when you 1140 01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:18.960 use other cryptos and other services you have to wait 1141 01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.800 hours in some cases days. It's instant and then you're 1142 01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.079 off to the races, and so freedom dollar is is 1143 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:27.199 my go to for living expenses. I hold on to 1144 01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:30.440 Zayo because I think it's it's the cryptocurrency that's going 1145 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.920 to be used for these tokenization projects, and. 1146 01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.039 I think you can actually can't you put other crypto 1147 01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:36.679 on there too? 1148 01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:40.639 See other crypto on the z beck. 1149 01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:42.960 No, not in the z on the on the zeno 1150 01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:44.599 because I think I believe I have a bitcoin on there. 1151 01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:45.800 My friend helped me set it up. 1152 01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:50.039 So it's like, oh yeah, yeah, so there's this thing 1153 01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:51.280 called confidential layer. 1154 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.039 Yeah, it has you can have a bitcoin on there, 1155 01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:55.320 you can have you can have a theory and all that. 1156 01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:58.719 Yeah. So you ask, is there any way to fix big? 1157 01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:03.079 Look? There is? Yeah, used and how I had it? 1158 01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.400 Well, it doesn't look good from the standpoint of, you know, 1159 01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:09.280 if anything they're making to bitcoin, you know, more expensive 1160 01:01:09.320 --> 01:01:12.119 and more complicated to use, and it's you know, has 1161 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.960 this issue of I want to explain how bad the 1162 01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:17.400 issue is because I'll talk about the confidential layer thing 1163 01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.239 in a second. The United States government has three hundred 1164 01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:23.280 and twenty five thousand bitcoin. How do you think they 1165 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:28.079 got that bitcoin? They didn't mind them, They didn't buy them, 1166 01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:31.880 they stole them, they confiscated them using civil asset forfeiture. 1167 01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:34.280 So all of these people that are out there saying 1168 01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:37.039 this is freedom money, the government can't can't stop me. 1169 01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:39.559 They can't, you know, not my keys, not my coins, 1170 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:42.599 you know that kind of thing. Well, here's what happens. 1171 01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.320 The government tracks the transactions, they find out which ones 1172 01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:46.760 are yours, and then they come to you with a 1173 01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:49.199 court order and they say, well here's the deal. Yeah, 1174 01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:51.159 you can hold on to your keys, and then you 1175 01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:53.159 can spend the rest of your life in prison. Well, 1176 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:56.599 so far, when that offer has been made, people have 1177 01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:00.119 unilaterally decided they would rather give up their bitcoin and 1178 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:02.360 spend time in prison. And so now the US has 1179 01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:04.760 to bee hundred and twenty five thousand and other governments 1180 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:07.519 all over the world. Well, now now there's a whole precedent, 1181 01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:09.960 and now there's all of this tracking. So you know, 1182 01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:13.440 bitcoin is not a way to save you know, to 1183 01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:16.239 protect your your assets if the government can identify it 1184 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:19.519 and seize it. Now, this thing called Confidential Layer allows 1185 01:02:19.559 --> 01:02:23.519 you to create a tokenized version of your bitcoin and 1186 01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:26.880 essentially make your bitcoin private and bitcoin spendable. So you 1187 01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.280 mentioned I don't know which which wallet you're using or whatever. 1188 01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:33.880 But you can have something called btc x in your 1189 01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:37.400 wallet that you can then spend just like you would 1190 01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.280 spend bitcoin, except with you know, it's faster and with 1191 01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:44.280 lower fees, but with complete privacy. So that's another Apple I'm. 1192 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.320 Rib technologyn't understand that. My friends set it up, but 1193 01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:47.679 then he put it and they put it onto a 1194 01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:49.519 credit card and now it's like Apple pay where I 1195 01:02:49.559 --> 01:02:53.159 can just scan it exactly. I don't think it was 1196 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:54.840 that difficult. I'm just terrible with technology. 1197 01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:58.440 So no, it's it's quick. You go into the wallet, 1198 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.559 you you know, you click on a lay and then 1199 01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:05.000 you click load funds. It's it's actually as easier, even 1200 01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:08.840 easier than using a bank account, but your underlying assets 1201 01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:10.960 are private, and yeah, you can use it with Google Pay, 1202 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.079 you can use it with Apple Pay, and you can 1203 01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:16.519 even use you know, you can make your bitcoin Ethereum, Solana, 1204 01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:20.920 and they're more and more cryptocurrencies, and so Zeno allows 1205 01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.119 you to so you can imagine a future where people 1206 01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.119 instead of having these you know, you tokenize your stock 1207 01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:29.719 using zaoms, now you have you know, private shares instead 1208 01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:33.679 of public shares controlled by black Rock. I've been working 1209 01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:37.639 on a project called Osarro, which is a medical tourism marketplace. 1210 01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:42.119 So in the United States, every minute somebody files for 1211 01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.079 bankruptcy due to medical costs in the United States. 1212 01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.679 Every country in the world. And we can't have healthcare, 1213 01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:51.000 but we can fight all these wars and beil out bankers. 1214 01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:51.599 It's disgusting. 1215 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:57.199 Well, well, seventy five percent of those people actually have insurance. 1216 01:03:57.239 --> 01:03:59.199 This isn't a question of they didn't have The insurance 1217 01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:03.320 doesn't actually provide catastrophic coverage. And so it turns out 1218 01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.559 our healthcare costs are the highest in the world. The 1219 01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:09.599 quality is really low. So we created this this database, 1220 01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:13.039 global database of medical tourism destinations. You can go to 1221 01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:16.760 different countries and save up to eighty percent on your 1222 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:21.480 costs and get better treat with better treatment. So what 1223 01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.920 I've done with that is one of the problems with 1224 01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:27.039 medical tourism is you have an issue of if you're 1225 01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.039 trying to wire money from your bank or you're using 1226 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:34.199 a credit card, a lot of the banks don't they 1227 01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:38.960 automatically flagg international transactions, and so something like freedom Dollar 1228 01:04:39.079 --> 01:04:43.800 used with medical tourism is a great opportunity to make 1229 01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:46.320 it easier for people to go abroad and to get 1230 01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:47.840 better health come healthcare. 1231 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:50.480 It's insane we're even having this conversation that we should 1232 01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:52.880 have to talk about traveling to a foreign country to 1233 01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:56.119 get medical treatment. But I really go to the hospital. 1234 01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.079 I think they're absolutely discussing, filthy dirty how to go 1235 01:04:59.079 --> 01:05:01.679 to the hospital in Thailand for bad staff infection. And 1236 01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:03.039 I was like, dude, this is going to be terrible. 1237 01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:04.480 I went in there and I was blown away. It 1238 01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:08.400 was way way cheaper, cleaner, the doctor was more knowledgeable. 1239 01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:10.320 I was in and out. It was like one hundred 1240 01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:11.679 and fifty dollars. I had a staff infection. In the 1241 01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:14.960 US it was like two thousand dollars. Like the doctors 1242 01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:16.320 had no clue what they were doing. I was in 1243 01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:17.840 there in like five hours. That was one of those 1244 01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:20.760 moments that I was just like, WHOA, why does Thailand 1245 01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:23.079 have better health care than us? And I'm sure nothing 1246 01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:24.920 all issues and I'm sure for the but we have 1247 01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:26.480 the best. If you have a ton of money, you 1248 01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:29.199 probably get the best doctors here. But for walking to 1249 01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:32.679 two regular hospitals, it was Thailand was ten times better. 1250 01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:36.199 Well this is wild. So in researching putting this together, 1251 01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:39.880 I found some interesting things. Thailand is the biggest destination 1252 01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:43.159 in the world for medical tourism. It's a one hundred 1253 01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.119 billion dollar industry. Eight point seven billion dollars of it 1254 01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:50.880 comes out of Thailand. And here's the other thing. So doctors, 1255 01:05:50.920 --> 01:05:54.320 really high quality doctors hate the US system because their 1256 01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:56.960 hands are tied. They're basically told by medical boards and 1257 01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:01.519 insurance and big pharma what treatments they can even offer. 1258 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:05.920 So what's happening is good doctors are leaving the United 1259 01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:08.519 States and they're going to these other destinations. And so 1260 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:11.239 like your experience, you can actually find other YouTube videos 1261 01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.800 where it's like, you know, when you go to a 1262 01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:18.960 hospital here, it's like a prison, or I guess I 1263 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:21.920 hate hockey. The system here it's like the Flintstones, and 1264 01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:23.800 you go to Thailand and it's like you're in the jetson. 1265 01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:25.960 Yeah. I couldn't believe it because I was obviously you 1266 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.800 could imagine I was going there with like fear, like 1267 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:29.480 oh man, this is going to be a nightmare, and 1268 01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:32.280 just the exact opposite, you know, And it was just 1269 01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:34.239 that shouldn't be. We shouldn't be the richest country in 1270 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:36.400 the world with the amount of taxes we pay just 1271 01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:40.840 have complete failures of hospitals, schools, crumbling infrastructure. It's this 1272 01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:42.800 whole separate topic, but it just gets frustrating. 1273 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:45.760 Well, this is the whole point of all this. So 1274 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:49.000 what I've been saying is stop using the dollar, start 1275 01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:51.639 using privacy coins, start using gold, start using silver. But 1276 01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:55.599 then start building parallel economy, Start building medical tourism, start 1277 01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:59.440 building uh marketplaces for food freedom where you can actually 1278 01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.039 buy our food supply. 1279 01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.159 That's another just poison. They're poisoning people. Everyone's you know, 1280 01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:06.519 everyone's sick. That's a big part of it. 1281 01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:11.400 Every single one of those those are opportunities for building 1282 01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:14.320 marketplaces that you can use with privacy coins and get 1283 01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:16.639 completely outside of the system. We're never going to win 1284 01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.079 inside the system. Like I think Thomas Massey's great and 1285 01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:22.599 what he's done with the Epstein file is the only 1286 01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:25.320 positive thing I've ever seen from a politician in my 1287 01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:27.880 entire life. Yeah, but we're not going to fix We're 1288 01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:29.679 not going to fix the government, but we have to 1289 01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.880 stop playing in their rig system with their broken money. 1290 01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:36.079 But understand, if you think the money's broken, now wait 1291 01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:39.639 until it's digitally programmed with with Howard Lutnick and Canter 1292 01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:43.079 Fitzgerald back and controlling the entire money supply. It actually 1293 01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:45.360 gets worse and it gets worth fat. 1294 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:47.960 You know. That's that's my concern. They're they're closing this 1295 01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:50.719 all and at once. The polunteer, there's surveillance state. It's 1296 01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:53.440 something like, we have we have to act now. It 1297 01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.960 seems like there's not much time left. That's why this 1298 01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:58.199 bitcoin is no an aspect. I understand that. Well, So 1299 01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:01.559 this conversation has been extremely resting. The whole idea of 1300 01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:03.440 them being able to watch every one of my transit 1301 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:05.760 actions and turn it off like that. I don't like 1302 01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:08.079 that idea. I don't think most Americans do. Some might, 1303 01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:11.400 some morons might like it. Just back to Thomas Massey 1304 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:13.400 real quick. You like, watch yesterday A need of this 1305 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:15.480 stuff with like Pam Bondy, and then you see these 1306 01:08:15.519 --> 01:08:18.279 MAGA accounts praising or stuff. It's like, this is not 1307 01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:21.199 a left or right issue. It's like people are like 1308 01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:24.680 messing with our children. That is not a democratic republican issue. 1309 01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:28.159 If you're supporting this, fuck you fuck anyone that's supporting 1310 01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:32.439 these scumbag degenerate fucks that do this bullshit. You know, 1311 01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:34.760 these MAGA accounts that want to be Yeah, look at 1312 01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.479 that trader, Massy Pam BONDI schooled him. It's like, you 1313 01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.760 guys are fucking morons. They're still withholding. You know, three 1314 01:08:40.760 --> 01:08:43.239 and a half million files. We've already seen how discussing 1315 01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:45.479 what they have released are in there, so you can 1316 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:47.880 only imagine what must be must be in their remaining 1317 01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:50.560 files if they're still withholding. And we have people praising 1318 01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:52.359 this on because making that are left and right issue? 1319 01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:52.920 Are you there? 1320 01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:56.000 Yeah? I can hear me still or no? Hello? 1321 01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:58.079 Helps, Ye, I'm sorry about that. 1322 01:08:58.119 --> 01:09:00.399 I think something out on your shoud Yeah. No, I 1323 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.199 think it's just fucking I'm just pissed off people. Maybe 1324 01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:04.760 this a left right issue. The same thing with this 1325 01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:06.920 money thing. This isn't a left and right issue. It's 1326 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:10.319 them versus us. So is it democrat versus Republican. It's 1327 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:11.279 like way bigger than that. 1328 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.319 Well, and this is the thing. So what I've been 1329 01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:17.359 trying to educate people on is technocracy. People don't know 1330 01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:19.880 what technocracy is, but I want to explain this a 1331 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:23.039 little bit. Technocracy is a movement that actually started in 1332 01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:26.279 the nineteen thirties. It was like a formal organization. There's 1333 01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:28.760 this thing called Technocracy, Inc. And they'd all get together, 1334 01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:31.600 they'd wear gray suits, and I mean, you know, it 1335 01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.920 looked kind of weird, even to the point where GM 1336 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.800 made a technocracy gray because they would all drive cars 1337 01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:41.359 with the same color. But this ideological movement basically said this, 1338 01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:45.239 the average person is too stupid to make decisions in 1339 01:09:45.279 --> 01:09:48.199 their own life. We need to have scientists and engineers 1340 01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:51.920 make decisions for people, and we need to change the 1341 01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:56.159 economy from being a system based on price and supply 1342 01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:59.279 and demand to being a system based on energy credits. 1343 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.800 Literally was an idea that started in the nineteen thirties. 1344 01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:05.920 It gained some momentum, they had some internal division, but 1345 01:10:05.960 --> 01:10:09.439 it was picked back up again in nineteen seventy three 1346 01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:12.840 by David Rockefeller and this guy Brazinski when they started 1347 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:17.399 a group called the Trilateral Commission and the Trilateral Commission. 1348 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:21.920 Their whole thing was to kind of reignite this technocracy movement, 1349 01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:25.600 and for the last fifty years they have been doing this. 1350 01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:29.560 They actually architected the UNS it's called the New International 1351 01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:32.159 Economic Order. But if you look at what the UN does, 1352 01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:36.119 they have this UN Agenda twenty thirty. They have these 1353 01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:41.520 seventeen sustainable development goals. It's basically a plan to regulate everything, 1354 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:44.479 the land, the air, the sea. This is where like 1355 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:52.319 the pronoun stuff comes from. All of this stems from technocracy, 1356 01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:55.840 and so I view what's going on right now with 1357 01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:58.520 these digital currencies. And even by the way, you know, 1358 01:10:58.560 --> 01:11:00.600 I mentioned nobody knows about this. I've been one of 1359 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:02.920 the few people talking about the Genius Act and the 1360 01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:07.279 Clarity Act and all these tokenization things. But real ID. 1361 01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:09.279 So people will sit there and look at the UK 1362 01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:11.159 and say, Wow, I'm glad We're not like the UK. 1363 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:15.319 They're trying to push a digital ID. Yeah, we have 1364 01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:20.039 real ID it. For twenty years people were pushing back 1365 01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:23.000 on real ID, and then Trump gets in and within 1366 01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:25.720 a twelve days now we fold it. 1367 01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:28.439 Yeah. I can't believe people just stop caring's question back 1368 01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:32.600 to the technocrasts or whatever real quick. I believe two things. One, 1369 01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:36.680 Epstein there's an email saying he worked for the Triladdle Commission, 1370 01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:39.319 however you say it. And then I believe Elon Musk's 1371 01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:43.000 father or grandfather was part of this organization. I'm pretty 1372 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.399 sure right up in Canada. He's a technocrat, so he 1373 01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:48.039 was part of this. And then he got in trouble 1374 01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:52.319 and had to move out to South Africa. MS grandfather, Yeah, 1375 01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:55.640 he pushed Elon Musk, you're going sorry. 1376 01:11:55.680 --> 01:11:58.720 Yeah. Elon musk grandfather was the head of the Canadian 1377 01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:02.399 Technocracy Party. Elon Musk is a technocrat. People have a 1378 01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:05.319 People get angry with me when I talk about this. 1379 01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:08.680 Elon Musk did not come in to save free speech. 1380 01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:11.960 He's actually he tweets all of the time about technocracy. 1381 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.520 He has stated he believes in energy credits. He has 1382 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:18.039 stated that money will go away and be replaced by energy. 1383 01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:22.399 He setties for he calls it universal high income, but 1384 01:12:22.439 --> 01:12:25.720 it's basically universal basic income. The idea here is they 1385 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:28.359 will strip us of all of our assets. They will 1386 01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:30.319 give us a social credit system, and then they'll give 1387 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:33.039 us an allowance and if we don't follow their rules, 1388 01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.399 that will determine what services will. 1389 01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:38.960 We get paid cut off? If you're allowed medical, if 1390 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:41.359 you can drive this week, if you can eat. 1391 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.319 That. And this is what's happening behind the scenes. So 1392 01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:47.520 another thing that happened. People are like, Doge is great, 1393 01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:49.720 They're going to you know, cut costs and do all 1394 01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:54.319 this other stuff. What Doge did was connected palenteer to 1395 01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:57.079 all of these federal government databases. So now they're taking 1396 01:12:57.119 --> 01:12:59.279 all of our tax information, they're taking all of the 1397 01:12:59.279 --> 01:13:02.720 other information from the DHS database and everything else, and 1398 01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:04.920 then that's going to be tied to our real ID. 1399 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:08.479 And so this has even got taken some libertarians off 1400 01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.159 track because it's being presented as we're going to reduce 1401 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.359 the size of government because we're getting rid of these employees, 1402 01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:18.239 but instead they're replacing it with AI. And I will 1403 01:13:18.239 --> 01:13:21.039 tell you something. I you know, people get angry with this. 1404 01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:24.000 I think Americans might be some of the most brainwashed 1405 01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.520 people on the planet in terms of what we think 1406 01:13:27.640 --> 01:13:30.800 we are in terms of our freedom versus the freedoms 1407 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:33.920 that we actually have. The only thing. Two categories that 1408 01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.760 we rank in the top in the world in are 1409 01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:39.520 defense spending and incarceration rate. 1410 01:13:39.560 --> 01:13:40.880 Wow, Like, we don't even. 1411 01:13:40.840 --> 01:13:43.199 Lead in innovation. We don't lead in it. We certainly 1412 01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:44.720 don't lead in free speech. We're not even in the 1413 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:47.039 top twenty in free speech. We have this view of 1414 01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:52.039 ourselves that has been propagandized, and so so people will 1415 01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:54.239 talk about we don't want to become like communists China, 1416 01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:57.479 because in China, in certain cases like on a province 1417 01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:00.000 by province basis or town by town basis. They actually 1418 01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:04.000 they've implemented social credit scores and there are like twenty 1419 01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:06.800 three million people in China that are at like the 1420 01:14:06.840 --> 01:14:10.039 lowest level of the social credit system. And when you're 1421 01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:14.359 at that lower level, it determines what healthcare options you have, 1422 01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:17.600 where you can live, the speed of your internet access. 1423 01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:20.760 Like this is real, this already exists, and so people like, 1424 01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:23.119 oh man, we don't want to have a system like this. 1425 01:14:23.239 --> 01:14:25.560 You know, we're the land of the free. Let me 1426 01:14:25.560 --> 01:14:28.520 tell you something about our tax code. Our tax code 1427 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:33.039 is seventy five thousand pages. It's sixteen million words. What 1428 01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:36.479 is the tax code? The tax code is a set 1429 01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:40.560 of penalties and rewards set by the government and if 1430 01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:43.840 you and if you don't follow the rules, they'll throw 1431 01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:46.960 you in prison. How is the only difference between our 1432 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.720 tax code as a social credit system and what China 1433 01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:52.520 has is they have an app and at least people 1434 01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:55.359 know what the rules are. We have a system here 1435 01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:59.199 that's too complex for anyone to even be able to follow. So, 1436 01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:03.399 you know, imagine you bring in pallenteer AI and everything else, 1437 01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:06.319 and now you have AI managing the sixteen million word 1438 01:15:06.359 --> 01:15:08.439 tax code. Is that better or worse? 1439 01:15:08.920 --> 01:15:11.000 Yeah? Probably worse. They're to take people they don't like 1440 01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:13.000 and go through and just look for one little mistake 1441 01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:15.079 or one little hole and then up throw you in jail. 1442 01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:18.399 His credit score is now and someone with people that I 1443 01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:21.560 presume a low credit score, you know, Ben stripped on Twitter, 1444 01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:24.560 I get, we get videos removed on YouTube, demonetized everywhere. 1445 01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:26.199 I assume that means I have a low credit score 1446 01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:28.000 with a system. 1447 01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:31.920 Absolutely. And actually the UK when this guy Nigel Farage 1448 01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:35.479 was was debanked, one of the things that he uncovered 1449 01:15:35.640 --> 01:15:39.600 is that the banks in the UK were actually analyzing 1450 01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:43.439 social media posts and we're using social media posts for 1451 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:46.319 a scoring system to determine whether you were banked or not. 1452 01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:50.319 Yeah, this debanking this big. That's the whole point of bitcoin. 1453 01:15:50.359 --> 01:15:52.479 Could solve that problem to or bitcoin or some kind 1454 01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:54.399 of crypto. I'm not stuck on any crypto. I'm not 1455 01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:56.640 like anti bitcoin if it could be fixed, but it's like, 1456 01:15:56.720 --> 01:15:58.439 we need something where they can't just shut our bank 1457 01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:00.760 accounts out. That's like a big deal. I know, so 1458 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:02.720 are people that have had their bank account shut down 1459 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:04.680 and it's like and then then what do you do. 1460 01:16:04.680 --> 01:16:06.039 They send your money and you can't put it into 1461 01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:06.640 a bank. 1462 01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:11.600 Exactly, then you can't get another bank account, and and 1463 01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:15.079 the whole system again these rules the Bank Secrecy Act, 1464 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.640 you know they they the suspicious Activity reports. There are 1465 01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:20.640 a whole bunch of people that get flagged because they 1466 01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:22.439 did transactions and then they end up on a list 1467 01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:24.399 and they can't get a new bank account even though 1468 01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:27.199 they were never determined to have done anything wrong. This 1469 01:16:27.319 --> 01:16:30.720 is the existing system today. The whole point people early 1470 01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:33.079 on with bitcoin was saying you could be your own bank, 1471 01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:35.479 and this was a big part of the whole idea. 1472 01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:38.560 So some people like the wf U N people were like, well, 1473 01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:40.560 we want to un you know, we want to bank 1474 01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:43.119 the unbanked. And then on the bitcoin movement was like, well, 1475 01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:46.239 hey everybody should be unbanked. You've got you've got this whole. 1476 01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:47.239 Firse get rid of the bank. 1477 01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:50.960 Now now you actually have this Genius Act where it's 1478 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:52.760 going to be, you know, banks are going to be 1479 01:16:52.760 --> 01:16:56.000 able to custody cryptocurrency. Now the government's involved, and now 1480 01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:57.039 you have black Rock. 1481 01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.560 This is we lost Genius Act kind of like the 1482 01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.760 Patriot their genius is dealing our money. 1483 01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:07.920 Afford affordable care as. 1484 01:17:07.800 --> 01:17:12.319 Yeah, right, these names are these things? Is the act opposite? No, 1485 01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.319 this is all extremely concerning. 1486 01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:19.880 It's extremely concerning. And the thing about it, that's so 1487 01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:22.079 you asked if you know if I would debate The 1488 01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:24.319 things that I want to debate about or to talk 1489 01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:28.159 about are the threat of technocracy and what we're going 1490 01:17:28.199 --> 01:17:30.920 to do to stop this. If bitcoin, uh, you know, 1491 01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:34.560 it becomes private or whatever. I'm for people using something 1492 01:17:35.079 --> 01:17:38.119 that gives them their power back and the ability to 1493 01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:41.560 engage in voluntary commerce all over the world. If bitcoin 1494 01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:43.840 can do that, I'll be happy about it. But what 1495 01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:46.760 the reason I'm sounding the alarm on, yes, is that 1496 01:17:46.800 --> 01:17:49.760 people don't understand that bitcoin isn't that bitcoin is the 1497 01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:52.880 opposite of that. Bitcoin is now about surveillance. Bitcoin can't 1498 01:17:52.920 --> 01:17:54.840 be used for this purpose. 1499 01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:56.840 You don't think anybody to fix it in your opinion, 1500 01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:00.119 I think it's like beyond that or because people are well, 1501 01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.279 it's gonna be hard to fit people. They're so dug in, 1502 01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:04.760 you know, as I telling a Christian or Muslim is 1503 01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:07.319 not real. It's like the people look at like a religion. 1504 01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:09.680 So is there a solution or you really think there's not. 1505 01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.960 It would based on how the social structure around bitcoin works, 1506 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:18.159 in terms of how the developers work and the miners 1507 01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:20.720 in the community. It's a huge barrier to cross. But 1508 01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:23.159 if it could happen, I'm all for it. 1509 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:27.479 With enough people step forwards because that ideally, saving bitcoin 1510 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:30.760 is the best solution. If that's not a solution, then 1511 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:33.359 you have to look forwards. But it's going to be 1512 01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:36.000 hard to convince people of this. I'm sure you would agree, right, 1513 01:18:36.119 --> 01:18:39.079 So if it's possible, well, it'd be nice to try 1514 01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:40.319 to fix it. I don't know if it is possible. 1515 01:18:40.319 --> 01:18:41.359 I don't understand enough. 1516 01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:45.560 I don't think it's not possible. Where it's so it's 1517 01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:47.640 going in the wrong direction. So there was this thing 1518 01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:50.520 called Lightning network that was created. So the idea was, well, 1519 01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:52.880 bitcoin is slow, but then you can use this thing 1520 01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:55.760 called Lightning network where you can connect through a whole 1521 01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:58.119 network of people and I can move money to you 1522 01:18:58.239 --> 01:19:01.359 through my friend or whatever. And it turns out that 1523 01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:04.359 ends up being really centralized. And so the big companies 1524 01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.720 now that are doing this. You'll find this guy, Jack Mallers. 1525 01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:09.119 He's on financial press all the time. He's in this 1526 01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:11.800 big closet with no clothes in it. He's wearing a 1527 01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:15.000 baseball cap and he's talking about how great Lightning network is. Well, 1528 01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:16.960 then I went and looked at the terms of service 1529 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.720 for his thing. It's all know your customer. He tracks 1530 01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:23.520 all of the transactions on the Lightning network. El Salvador 1531 01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:27.600 made bitcoin legal tender, and then they gave all of 1532 01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:30.439 the citizens this thing called Achievo wallet. Well, it turns 1533 01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:33.560 out it was on Lightning network, the transactions could be tracked, 1534 01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:36.119 and then the wallet got hacked and all of the 1535 01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:40.600 citizens of El Salvador were docked. So this is so 1536 01:19:40.720 --> 01:19:42.520 I'm just I'm looking at this from the standpoint that's 1537 01:19:42.560 --> 01:19:46.600 not a solution. But more importantly, this is urgent, Like 1538 01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:48.680 this is we're in a worse situation than we were 1539 01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:51.479 in two thousand and eight. Yeah, a whole bunch of bankers, 1540 01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:54.560 you know, gambled on that mortgage market and then they 1541 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.760 got bailed out. We're in a situation right now where 1542 01:19:56.760 --> 01:20:00.439 we've gone through COVID. These people are willing to force 1543 01:20:01.079 --> 01:20:03.640 medication on you, they're willing to shut down your business, 1544 01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.159 they're willing to force you to wear masks. And now 1545 01:20:06.199 --> 01:20:08.520 we're going to give them digital currency that they can 1546 01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:12.920 program and control. This is actually, this is an existential threat. 1547 01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:16.159 I actually say that technocracy is about free will itself. 1548 01:20:16.560 --> 01:20:19.199 The situation that we have now is technocracy versus freedom. 1549 01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:23.199 And if they implement these systems, with these social credit systems, 1550 01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:26.600 we lose our ability to make our own decisions in 1551 01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:29.239 our life. And so that to me is fundamentally about 1552 01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:32.279 free will. So it's not red or blue, it's not 1553 01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:36.239 the US versus China. It's this global technocracy and right 1554 01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:39.960 now it is moving with zero resistance. It's being cheered 1555 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:42.199 on primarily out of ignorance. 1556 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:46.479 Yeah, they used ice to push palenteer and people are 1557 01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:48.079 cheering it on, Like yeah, I go, it's like you 1558 01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:50.439 really it's going to be used against us. People aren't 1559 01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:52.159 unable to like step back and look at the big 1560 01:20:52.199 --> 01:20:54.119 picture one hundred percent agree with everything you're saying, Like 1561 01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:56.720 I don't don't really understand. I understand the bitcoin aspect 1562 01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:58.439 of it well, but I could see how that's a 1563 01:20:58.439 --> 01:21:01.359 big net and they're just closing it in quicker and quicker, 1564 01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:03.039 and I don't think we have very long. Like they say, 1565 01:21:03.079 --> 01:21:05.760 there's a two thousand and thirty agenda it's almost like 1566 01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:08.199 they're trying to have it complete complete by then. 1567 01:21:09.560 --> 01:21:12.840 I actually think it's accelerated under Trump because they're putting 1568 01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:14.640 things in place of think about what's going on with 1569 01:21:14.680 --> 01:21:18.159 digital ID right So now the real ID is expected 1570 01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:21.520 to be fully digital in all fifty states by twenty 1571 01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:25.199 twenty seven. There's actually a big global movement. Now there 1572 01:21:25.199 --> 01:21:27.279 are seventeen countries at the end of last year that 1573 01:21:27.279 --> 01:21:29.760 announced they're going to be rolling out digital ID. I'm 1574 01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:32.600 in Mexico right now. Mexico is rolling out right now 1575 01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:35.800 a digital ID tied to a QR code that the 1576 01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:40.000 employers have to enforce. And so this is happening all 1577 01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:42.439 over the world. Once they have the digital ID thing, 1578 01:21:42.520 --> 01:21:44.319 and then now all of a sudden they can control 1579 01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:46.760 your access to the internet. Then you're going to tie 1580 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:49.319 your digital ID to your money, which they're doing in Thailand. 1581 01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:52.279 You mentioned Thailand. Now you need a digital ID to 1582 01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:55.119 access to the banking services in Thailand, and they've even 1583 01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:57.359 figured out a way to do this where you know, 1584 01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:00.239 they can also control your simcard on your phone, so 1585 01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:02.840 they actually know you can't have a SIM card that's 1586 01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:06.720 outside of the system and outside of the identification framework. 1587 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:10.039 They have. This has already happened. So for three years 1588 01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:13.399 I've been warning people about technocracy and now I'm like, damn, 1589 01:22:13.399 --> 01:22:16.399 they're actually putting this infrastructure in place, and people are 1590 01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:19.640 sitting around arguing about, you know, block size wars for 1591 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:22.359 bitcoin from twenty seventeen. That's not the argument. 1592 01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:25.239 I think people don't even completely miss what the argument is. 1593 01:22:25.399 --> 01:22:27.159 That's what I think. Maybe it's over a debate. We 1594 01:22:27.199 --> 01:22:29.439 bring a few people on that are big bitcoin, have 1595 01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:30.800 discussions of how to fix this. 1596 01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:33.560 Yeah, I have discussion on how to fix it. 1597 01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:35.680 Obviously go into the power coins in that or is 1598 01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:38.560 there a way to fix bitcoin exactly? 1599 01:22:38.600 --> 01:22:40.640 How are we going to stop the surveillance state, how 1600 01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:42.680 are we going to stop digital IDs? How are we 1601 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:44.680 going to make it so that you know, Bitcoin isn't 1602 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:47.319 completely tracked? And look, I will tell you a lot 1603 01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:49.840 of these people just don't know this. And part of 1604 01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:53.520 this is frankly, the people that we're talking about the 1605 01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:55.760 other side of this that we're trying to warn people 1606 01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.319 about the fact that bitcoin had been hijacked. They have 1607 01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:01.960 been suppressed, people have been targeted by the government. You're 1608 01:23:02.640 --> 01:23:04.800 we have developers. By the way, let me add. 1609 01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:06.640 Rajavie has a gag order. I hit up trying to 1610 01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:08.079 interview him. He as a gag order. 1611 01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:11.079 So yeah, Roger vere is minders dating from reading the 1612 01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:14.399 public documents that you know he can't speak for basically 1613 01:23:14.439 --> 01:23:17.000 three years. It's like if he does anything more than 1614 01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:21.159 a traffic ticket, then it nullifies his deal. I told 1615 01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:23.560 you about my friend Ian Freeman. I do want to 1616 01:23:23.560 --> 01:23:26.760 plug him. Is it freeeannow dot org. He's in federal 1617 01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:29.760 prison for eight years for selling bitcoin license. But here's 1618 01:23:29.800 --> 01:23:32.960 the thing, it doesn't stop there. When you talk about 1619 01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:38.479 bitcoin as a potential solution, privacy is key. There are 1620 01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:41.840 developers that have worked on tools to make bitcoin private, 1621 01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:44.560 things called mixing service where you basically mix a bunch 1622 01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:47.159 of bitcoin transactions together and so that you can't figure 1623 01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:51.199 out who sent what. Well, there are two developers from 1624 01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:56.520 Samurai wallet Keone Rodriguez and William Hill that are now 1625 01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:00.159 in federal prison. Rodriguez actually just turned himself in to 1626 01:24:00.199 --> 01:24:02.880 prison in November of last year. 1627 01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:09.439 This is happening under Trump making these things. They're being targeted, so. 1628 01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:13.399 They've been targeted. These are open source developers that wrote 1629 01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:18.000 code that protects our Fourth Amendment right right, they did 1630 01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:20.399 nothing wrong. And by the way, there's a similarity here 1631 01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:22.760 in a lot of these different cases, which is these 1632 01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:26.000 people that went about doing this actually consulted lawyers before 1633 01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:27.680 doing it. So these are people that are in prison 1634 01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:30.960 thinking they were doing the right thing, even trying to 1635 01:24:31.039 --> 01:24:33.640 actually check the boxes and do the right thing, and 1636 01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:34.359 they're still in the work. 1637 01:24:34.600 --> 01:24:36.680 The charge what are they charging with? That on some 1638 01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:37.880 made up weird they. 1639 01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:43.800 They usually charge you with operating, you know, operating without 1640 01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:46.479 a money transmitter license. There are all these you know, 1641 01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:47.960 the thing is makeup laws. 1642 01:24:48.279 --> 01:24:50.119 Find me a man, I'll show you a crime. Isn't 1643 01:24:50.159 --> 01:24:53.039 that stall in sane? I remember who said that? That's 1644 01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:53.720 an old saying. 1645 01:24:55.079 --> 01:24:57.279 That's absolutely a statement. And so there are two things 1646 01:24:57.279 --> 01:24:59.239 that the government can do. They can they can charge 1647 01:24:59.239 --> 01:25:03.399 you with conspira to do something, you know, which is 1648 01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:05.159 that if you're not even you know, you didn't even 1649 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:07.079 necessarily do it, but you're around at the time, that's 1650 01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:08.640 like a catch all. And then they can charge it 1651 01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.439 with things related to interstate commerce. And so these are 1652 01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:14.399 like catch alls for when they want to nail somebody 1653 01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:17.680 that you know, didn't do anything wrong, but usually it's 1654 01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:20.159 around And then they'll try to accuse the it's either 1655 01:25:20.279 --> 01:25:24.960 operating without a money transmitter license, or money laundering or terrorism. 1656 01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:26.960 But the thing with this is, and you know, is 1657 01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.640 a contrast. So Ian Freeman's in federal prison for eight years. 1658 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:32.239 There are banks I can't remember if it was Jakovi 1659 01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:36.399 or Wells Fargo that was found to have laundered hundreds 1660 01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:39.720 of billions of dollars of drug money for cartels. They 1661 01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:42.399 paid a fine, no one went to jail. People ended 1662 01:25:42.439 --> 01:25:44.760 up getting promoted over this. And so this is this 1663 01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:47.079 is what I'm trying to say to people, is the 1664 01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:51.319 war on crypto is happening right now. And so even 1665 01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:53.720 if you're a bitcoin maxie, understand you're not going to 1666 01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:58.800 benefit from the Clarity Act. The Clarity Act is designed 1667 01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:02.119 to regulate crypto. But here's what's in it. All of 1668 01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:06.399 your transactions will be tracked, if you're going through exchanges 1669 01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:09.560 in these third parties, will be tracked in real time 1670 01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:14.479 with complete transaction histories. Records will be have to be 1671 01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:17.680 retained for five years, and they share this information with 1672 01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:21.560 not only federal government departments, but with foreign central banks. 1673 01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:25.720 So this regulation is not about pride to rules of 1674 01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:28.960 the road that make it easier for crypto or that 1675 01:26:29.079 --> 01:26:33.880 enhance our freedom. It's adding massive, massive amounts of surveillance. 1676 01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:35.279 And for the people out there that think that the 1677 01:26:35.319 --> 01:26:38.720 surveillance works, it doesn't. The bank secrecy. I have a 1678 01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:41.319 massive article coming out in the Brownstone Institute. It's like 1679 01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:44.439 twelve thousand words, and I only talk about these bills, 1680 01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:48.560 but I talk about the history of financial regulation in 1681 01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:51.479 the United States. You have to understand before nineteen seventy 1682 01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:54.119 there was none of this. There was no tracking. And 1683 01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:57.439 when did we decide that we don't have privacy as 1684 01:26:57.439 --> 01:26:59.640 a right. The whole point of the Constitution was to 1685 01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:03.079 limit what the federal government can do explicitly, we get 1686 01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:05.720 all of the other rights. Now we're sitting here saying 1687 01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:09.960 we're going to cheer on adding real time monitoring of 1688 01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:12.439 all of the transactions of all of our assets and 1689 01:27:12.479 --> 01:27:15.880 give that information to foreign central banks. Have we lost 1690 01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:18.119 our complete framework on this. 1691 01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:20.359 Yes, yes we have. And for the people that don't 1692 01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:22.560 fear the government, which there's probably not very many listening 1693 01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:24.920 to my show, think about you go through a divorce, 1694 01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:26.920 then all of a sudden, your wife can look through 1695 01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:29.520 all your transactions, track all your money. Do you want 1696 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:31.399 anyone else be on track your money. It's just like 1697 01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:34.279 I don't want even build track all my money. The government, 1698 01:27:34.359 --> 01:27:36.439 like I spee. Only one tracking my money and then 1699 01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:37.880 what I spend it on what I buy. 1700 01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:43.000 Well, there's another aspect of this that affects bitcoin as well. 1701 01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:45.000 They're what are called rench attacks. So it's not just 1702 01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:49.039 governments tracking your transactions. There are other call them other 1703 01:27:49.079 --> 01:27:54.079 criminals besides the government that if you can identify somebody's transactions. 1704 01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:56.520 I actually was researching this. He's a private investigator. You 1705 01:27:56.520 --> 01:27:58.920 can spend like ten grand a year for a license 1706 01:27:58.920 --> 01:28:00.840 and this gives you access to this database where you 1707 01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:03.039 can track all of this information. So if you find out, hey, 1708 01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:06.359 this rich guy's here, and there are numerous cases of 1709 01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:10.680 people being abducted, there are kids being kidnapped and they're 1710 01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:13.920 and they're held ransom because because the information is on 1711 01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:18.760 a public blockchain. So privacy is absolutely critical. It is 1712 01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:23.399 fundamental to fighting government tyranny. It's fundamental to fighting technocracy, 1713 01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:26.199 but it's also fighting it's fundamental to fighting just run 1714 01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:28.560 of the mill, everyday criminals that might try to steal 1715 01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:29.800 the crypto currenty. 1716 01:28:29.560 --> 01:28:34.039 No, exactly. That's a big problem too. The privacy a 1717 01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:35.920 little off track, which is back to the you know, 1718 01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:38.079 the Epstein files, all the things coming out of there. 1719 01:28:38.359 --> 01:28:42.520 Clearly bankers are enemy. Something I found really interesting the 1720 01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:46.119 old crazy conspiracy theory, you know, the roths Child's running everything. 1721 01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:49.199 You see Efting saying I work for the roths Childs. 1722 01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:50.479 What do you make of all that? To me, that 1723 01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:53.359 was kind of like I found a little interesting. I 1724 01:28:53.359 --> 01:28:55.720 thought it was a kind of a dead banking dynasty. 1725 01:28:55.840 --> 01:28:58.079 But then you see him saying I work for the Rothschilds. 1726 01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:00.880 So so did I that That's one of those areas 1727 01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:02.720 that I never even heard thought because once you say 1728 01:29:02.760 --> 01:29:04.560 ross Child's like all of this guy's you know whatever, 1729 01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:06.439 this is a it is what it is. And then 1730 01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:08.399 when I saw that, I'm like, oh, oh my god. Yeah, 1731 01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:11.039 And I even went to, well how far does this go? 1732 01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:13.880 Because there are a couple of documents in the car. 1733 01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:17.079 I think he got paid twenty five million dollars for 1734 01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:19.279 helping on a tax issue and then forty five million 1735 01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:22.800 dollars for something else. But the way that Epstein reached 1736 01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:24.800 out to Peter Teele was he said, hey, you know, 1737 01:29:24.920 --> 01:29:28.359 as you know, I manage money for the Ross Childs 1738 01:29:28.439 --> 01:29:30.960 and there's a one hundred and sixty there's one hundred 1739 01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:34.520 and sixty billion dollars worth of assets looking to be 1740 01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:38.359 invested in technology, and I'm like, wow, okay, so we 1741 01:29:38.399 --> 01:29:39.760 need to dig into this, and I will tell you. 1742 01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:42.439 I've created this website, it's a little rough right now, 1743 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:46.520 called technocracy atlist dot com. But what I've done is 1744 01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:49.239 I've taken all of the Epstein files, all of the images, 1745 01:29:49.279 --> 01:29:51.880 all the emails, all of that stuff. But that's it 1746 01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:54.000 didn't even start out with that. It started out with, 1747 01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:56.720 you know, all this other information from Mike Patrick Wood 1748 01:29:56.720 --> 01:30:00.159 on Technocracy and the Brownstone Institute. But I took all 1749 01:30:00.199 --> 01:30:04.239 of these offshore leaks, the Pandora papers, the Panama papers, 1750 01:30:04.239 --> 01:30:06.319 and everything else. I don't know if you recall that. 1751 01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:08.399 I know the names, I don't details behind if I 1752 01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:10.840 remember hearing about those cases being big scandals, but I don't, like, 1753 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:13.119 I can't give you in depth knowledge of them. 1754 01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:17.720 So basically what happened is they somebody you know, found 1755 01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:23.199 these legal accounting firms entire database of transactions for all 1756 01:30:23.199 --> 01:30:26.960 of these like limited partnerships and offshore entities. So there's 1757 01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:31.399 like thirteen and a half million transactions and entities in there. 1758 01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:34.479 That is this private offshore banking stuff. This is how 1759 01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:37.840 money actually flows. So all of that data was released 1760 01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:40.439 to the public. So I've taken that data put into 1761 01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:42.239 the system, and the next thing that I'm going to 1762 01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:45.239 do is I'm going to map the Epstein files to 1763 01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:48.439 these thirteen and a half million offshore files. That's where 1764 01:30:48.479 --> 01:30:50.479 you can really track money. And I'm telling you, this 1765 01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:52.600 is where we're going to be able to really for 1766 01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:55.680 everybody always says follow the money, but they've set up 1767 01:30:55.680 --> 01:30:58.319 structures where you can't follow the money, right, this guy's 1768 01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:00.399 got this thing and that you know, Bahamas, this guys 1769 01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:04.119 over here, and then it's real complicated structure. Well, between 1770 01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:08.119 the leak of that data and AI, we're going to 1771 01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:10.439 be able to determine how the world actually works. And 1772 01:31:10.479 --> 01:31:13.800 I think that is going to change people's entire perspective 1773 01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:16.520 of how the world operates. And so I don't know 1774 01:31:16.520 --> 01:31:18.640 what the outcome is going to be yet, but I'm 1775 01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:21.479 dedicated to kind of trying to find the truth by 1776 01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:24.760 putting all this information out there, analyzing it, and then 1777 01:31:24.800 --> 01:31:28.560 crowdsourcing it because so many people have these small bits 1778 01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:33.079 of information about these transactions and you know, specific domain 1779 01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:36.079 expertise for people to be able to all contribute together. 1780 01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:37.520 That's a basing. 1781 01:31:40.239 --> 01:31:42.079 My theory, and this is that, you know, it's probably 1782 01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:43.960 like five hundred or one thousand people that are pulling 1783 01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:45.800 all the strings. They try to make it like we 1784 01:31:45.800 --> 01:31:48.560 should all be divided fifty to fifty. In reality, if 1785 01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:50.600 we can unravel this stuff, we'll be able to find 1786 01:31:50.600 --> 01:31:52.600 the five hundred to one thousand people that are that 1787 01:31:52.640 --> 01:31:54.960 are really running this show. 1788 01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:57.119 One hundred percent agree to your theory. I think there's 1789 01:31:57.119 --> 01:31:59.920 a small group of people that are manipulating things, pulling strings, 1790 01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:03.079 and we're kind of seeing this actually proven to be true. 1791 01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:05.600 The Epstein Files does show it. He's clearly not the boss. 1792 01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:08.279 He's high up, you know, he's a fixer, he's connected 1793 01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:10.720 of all these people. But it's showing like an international 1794 01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:15.720 criminal cartel is running the world. That's directly showing this 1795 01:32:15.800 --> 01:32:18.760 in the banking cartel is meeting with the Rothschilds. He 1796 01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:21.680 works for the Rothschilds. His own words, you know, like 1797 01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.079 these these things that they say you're crazy. There's also 1798 01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:26.880 some dark shit in there, things like when they kill babies. 1799 01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:29.119 There there's no smoking gun but they're saying that type 1800 01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:31.600 of stuff in their own words, do they I don't know, 1801 01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:34.399 but there's some dark stuff on there, Like this morning, 1802 01:32:34.439 --> 01:32:37.720 I got stuck on the Fteine files. You know, put 1803 01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:39.119 you start going down these rabbit holes, I think you 1804 01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:41.720 probably go down there too. So much redacted stuff, so 1805 01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:44.359 it's hard to know so much redacted still, but even 1806 01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:47.239 like Wayfair I put in, for example, that crazy conspiracy 1807 01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:49.520 that was a few years ago, three hundred and sixty 1808 01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:52.079 nine resorts. So I'm like, okay, start looking it up. 1809 01:32:52.079 --> 01:32:55.159 It's all it's all like just mostly all mostly all 1810 01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:58.119 just cells of Wayfair furniture. I look it up. It's 1811 01:32:58.119 --> 01:33:01.319 a cheap furniture company. And then eptein himself is like 1812 01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:03.840 sending Woody Owen. I didn't get to look through them 1813 01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:06.640 all sending people, Oh I sent you a gift, and 1814 01:33:06.680 --> 01:33:08.920 he's personally concerned, Hey, when's my item? I get here? 1815 01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:13.640 So Epstein love loves cheap furniture. I'm not saying, I mean, 1816 01:33:13.680 --> 01:33:15.199 who knows. I'm not going to reach up and say 1817 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:16.600 there is something there but should be looked into. Do 1818 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:19.279 you know anything billionaires that like love cheap furniture and 1819 01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:22.920 buy their friends cheap furniture. I don't well. 1820 01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:25.079 I mean, look, we've got the image of from Epstein's 1821 01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:27.800 I have something like twenty thousand pictures on this Technocracy 1822 01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:30.520 Atlas website. I haven't seen any wayfair furniture in there. 1823 01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:33.319 It's definitely not wayfair furniture. But I will say this. 1824 01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:38.239 You know, I used to advise Ben Swan way back 1825 01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:40.239 in the day. He had this thing called truth and Media. 1826 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:44.439 He's the one who broke and he was destroyed for it. Yeah, 1827 01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:48.640 his professional reputation was absolutely shattered, and I can only 1828 01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:51.479 imagine he was probably sued. Like he went dark for 1829 01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:53.920 a really long time. And the stuff that he was 1830 01:33:53.960 --> 01:33:56.880 saying and he was reporting on is in these Epstein files. 1831 01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:00.319 It's you know, all of the like pizza and jery 1832 01:34:00.399 --> 01:34:02.079 and all of this code work. I mean even the 1833 01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:05.720 FBI has a list this is the coded language for pedophile. 1834 01:34:06.199 --> 01:34:08.239 Why is all of this stuff in the Epstein files. 1835 01:34:08.359 --> 01:34:10.640 Yeah, the slicing open pizza, you know with the Prime 1836 01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:12.399 Minister Israel, Like, oh, I really had a lot of 1837 01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:15.079 fun sliping slicing open pizza with you last night. This 1838 01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:19.279 is disgusting and it's it goes beyond what we want 1839 01:34:19.319 --> 01:34:21.399 to imagine to be true and like, but they're straight 1840 01:34:21.479 --> 01:34:23.079 up saying so I'm like, hey, did you enjoy the 1841 01:34:23.079 --> 01:34:26.520 torture video. It's like there comes a point where we 1842 01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:28.079 have to be like, hey, maybe this is a little 1843 01:34:28.119 --> 01:34:29.840 bit beyond what we want to imagine. It could be. 1844 01:34:31.319 --> 01:34:34.720 Well, it isn't the one I saw today that Steve 1845 01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:40.960 something about a bunch of sulphuric acid or something. Yes, uh, 1846 01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:44.399 Bannon left an apartment and I guess the whirlpool or 1847 01:34:44.479 --> 01:34:47.840 hot tub or something like, what the hell is that 1848 01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:48.399 all about? 1849 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:51.359 It's so bizarre, right, It's just all so bizarre. It's 1850 01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:53.680 like we're having I mean, I don't want to jump 1851 01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:56.279 to conclusions and having a hardhead processing it. But it's 1852 01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.359 looking like some of the worst most evil stuff imaginable, 1853 01:34:59.359 --> 01:35:02.560 and the crazy conspiracy theories and theorists were right about 1854 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:04.439 a lot of it. Even if they're right about half 1855 01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:07.640 of it or a third of it, it's still absolutely 1856 01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:11.000 disgusting and dark. Steve Bannon's a name I keep seeing 1857 01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.319 pop up a lot. Is I don't quite eat. He's 1858 01:35:14.359 --> 01:35:16.239 try to pretend like he's on the right side, but 1859 01:35:16.319 --> 01:35:19.119 it's looking like he's tight led with all these same characters, right. 1860 01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:23.159 Yeah, I want to spend a lot of time investigating 1861 01:35:23.239 --> 01:35:26.720 him further. So he has branded himself as this populist 1862 01:35:27.399 --> 01:35:30.079 and that he's for the people, and that he's like this, 1863 01:35:30.279 --> 01:35:34.880 you know, genius architect behind Trump for engineering the whole 1864 01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:36.720 MAGA movement. Now I have a theory, and I want 1865 01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:38.840 to state that it is a theory. But I'm trying 1866 01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:41.800 to track this down because I think he's actually one 1867 01:35:41.840 --> 01:35:45.600 of the main people behind QAnon. Yeah, that's a great 1868 01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:51.239 because the timing actually fits. And when you see in 1869 01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:55.000 his correspondence with Epstein, it's clear he's just pulling the 1870 01:35:55.039 --> 01:35:57.479 rug over people. The populism thing is just a a 1871 01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:02.119 front for his strategy to gain more power. So they 1872 01:36:02.119 --> 01:36:05.600 were even going to come up with a cryptocurrency. I 1873 01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:09.239 believe they called it the uh deplore Ruble was one 1874 01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:10.920 of the ideas that they had. They are all these 1875 01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:14.880 like schemes in the in the email email thread back 1876 01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:18.479 and forth. But Bannon, you know, took over brock Pierce's 1877 01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:22.000 company that sold World World of Warcraft. I think Gold 1878 01:36:22.079 --> 01:36:26.159 actually sold the actual the kind of digital assets. Steve, 1879 01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:30.760 It's not clear, No, it's completely clear. He worked for 1880 01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:34.920 Goldman Sachs. Steve Bannon is Goldman Sachs. So like he 1881 01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:37.199 tries to make it out like he's the everyday guy. 1882 01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:39.520 This is a guy that worked for Goldman Sachs and 1883 01:36:39.720 --> 01:36:43.159 is advising Jeffrey Epstein. They were going to release a 1884 01:36:43.279 --> 01:36:47.159 documentary about Jeffrey Epstein the day, like the day before 1885 01:36:47.239 --> 01:36:52.840 he was arrested. I mean so, so I like, I 1886 01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:55.880 want to we need to crowdsource the research on this, 1887 01:36:55.960 --> 01:36:58.079 but I think that he a lot of the Magas stuff, 1888 01:36:58.119 --> 01:36:59.560 look the QAnon stuff. 1889 01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:01.880 Dry Trust the Plan and come on, trust the plan. 1890 01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:03.680 The plan is we will be slaves. 1891 01:37:04.760 --> 01:37:06.680 But you know what, there's this other thing that's tied 1892 01:37:06.760 --> 01:37:09.199 into the Trust the Plan, and it's this this thing 1893 01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:12.199 called the Nissara and Jasara, and it's this idea that 1894 01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:13.960 there's going to be a debt jubilee. And there are 1895 01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:17.399 people that have been pushing this since before nine to eleven, 1896 01:37:18.119 --> 01:37:20.920 and so there are people that stopped paying their mortgages 1897 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:23.399 and stopped paying their bills because they kept on being 1898 01:37:23.399 --> 01:37:26.800 told trust the plan. They're going to you know, they're 1899 01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:28.960 going to retire all of your debt and then they're 1900 01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:30.680 going to be these med beds that you sit in 1901 01:37:30.720 --> 01:37:32.760 that they're going to cure all of your ills, so 1902 01:37:32.800 --> 01:37:35.000 people stop getting medical treatment. I think all of this 1903 01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:40.399 stuff is connected because it uses similar psychology in the timelines. 1904 01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:42.039 So again I put this. 1905 01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:46.399 As it is disapiory, but it's it's there's some credible 1906 01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:49.119 It makes sense because there's a little bit of insight information. 1907 01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:50.680 They're telling you what you want to hear. They want 1908 01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:53.279 us to date it, not resisting. They want used to 1909 01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:56.399 sit back, trust the plan, not do anything and let 1910 01:37:56.399 --> 01:37:57.039 them take over. 1911 01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:01.079 I mean, just to me, the thing about the trust 1912 01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:03.720 the plan. I remember during COVID that there were people 1913 01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:07.920 that were sitting around waiting for and cheering the idea 1914 01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:11.159 that white hats in the military were going to declare 1915 01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:15.880 martial law, arrest all the pedophiles, hold tribunals, and then 1916 01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:18.880 like execute them on closed capturing TV. The word thing 1917 01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:21.600 about this isn't that they believed it, it's that they 1918 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:24.439 were actually they were cheering for it. When you're cheering 1919 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:30.079 for martial law, like that's whatever was involved in creating 1920 01:38:30.079 --> 01:38:32.920 the manipulation that got to that point is frightening. 1921 01:38:33.199 --> 01:38:36.039 These people exactly there they'll cheer along. Well, that's the 1922 01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:38.119 palent the same thing, and like people like, oh, you know, 1923 01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:40.199 Trump's just playing him. It's like, well, I just watched 1924 01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:43.399 one hundred thousand kids get killed and in Gaza, and 1925 01:38:43.439 --> 01:38:44.960 so im not really trust in that plan. 1926 01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:50.399 Exactly. I mean, you know, one other quick thing on this, 1927 01:38:51.479 --> 01:38:53.840 you know again Trump Trump trying to make this a 1928 01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:57.319 whole populist thing. His new chair of the Federal Reserve, 1929 01:38:57.640 --> 01:39:00.560 this guy Kevin Warsh, that he brought in. I don't 1930 01:39:00.560 --> 01:39:02.880 know if you're familiar with his background. This guy going 1931 01:39:02.920 --> 01:39:05.520 back full circle to all of this stuff with bitcoin 1932 01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:08.760 and starting after the two thousand and eight collapse. The 1933 01:39:08.800 --> 01:39:10.920 new chair of the Federal Reserve was one of the 1934 01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:15.039 key architects of bailing out the banks in two thousand 1935 01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:19.399 and eight. This guy Warsh actually was directly involved in 1936 01:39:20.239 --> 01:39:23.199 letting Lehman Brothers fail. But then he was involved in 1937 01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:25.960 the bailout of bear Stearns directly. He was working with 1938 01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:28.520 Ben Bernanke, he was working with Tim Geitner directly. This 1939 01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:31.000 guy's like one of the main guys. Then he worked 1940 01:39:31.039 --> 01:39:35.520 directly on bailing out AIG. He's involved with this thing 1941 01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:38.079 called the Group of thirty, which is a group of 1942 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:40.199 like you know, it's another one of these like builderbrick 1943 01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:42.399 kind of things. But it's like central bankers, current and 1944 01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:45.560 former central bankers from all over the world, and I 1945 01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:48.920 you know, the economy is teetering. I mean, like despite 1946 01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:52.960 Pam Bondie talking about the fifty thousand dollars excuse me, 1947 01:39:53.079 --> 01:39:56.479 fifty fifty thousand doubt price, we are actually in a 1948 01:39:56.479 --> 01:40:01.239 situation where, you know, foreclosures and carlan and credit card 1949 01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:03.760 default like we're getting back to and in some cases 1950 01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:05.760 worse than we were in two thousand and eight. I 1951 01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:09.399 think that they know a crash is coming and so 1952 01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:11.840 they brought in the person with that could come in 1953 01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:12.800 and bail out the banks. 1954 01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:17.560 Again, Yeah, that's crazy. And the bailout is just so ridiculous. 1955 01:40:17.680 --> 01:40:21.000 These bankers they engineered. They knew they they were given 1956 01:40:21.039 --> 01:40:22.600 out loans, they knew people weren't going to be able 1957 01:40:22.640 --> 01:40:24.640 to pay, you know, the bloom payments, all this, they 1958 01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:26.800 engineered it. They thought they was going to keep going 1959 01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:28.640 to get their houses given back. But eventually it got 1960 01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:30.800 two out of control where just the crash came and 1961 01:40:30.840 --> 01:40:33.920 the houses weren't worth hardly anything. So what do they 1962 01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:36.119 do Go to the government, Hey, we need to get 1963 01:40:36.119 --> 01:40:39.680 bilt out on this. But the people that lost their 1964 01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:41.720 homes that they didn't they didn't get built out. The 1965 01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:44.279 government wasn't like, oh, you know you miscalculated, here will 1966 01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:45.760 bail you out. No, and said it's to people that 1967 01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:46.920 caused it that got built out. 1968 01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:50.239 Well, not only that, it actually gets worse. So you 1969 01:40:50.279 --> 01:40:52.880 would think whatever happened with the bailout, you know, you 1970 01:40:52.920 --> 01:40:54.800 would hope that they put in protection so that it 1971 01:40:54.840 --> 01:40:58.279 doesn't happen again. Well, it's actually something that's interesting that 1972 01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:01.119 you should look into, called the Great Taking. They've actually 1973 01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:04.159 changed the laws in all fifty states. So let's say 1974 01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:07.079 we have another big financial collapse again, and let's say 1975 01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:09.600 you're broker that you know, you have your four oh 1976 01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:13.479 one K and ETFs through goes bankrupt. Well you might think, well, hey, 1977 01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:16.079 those are my funds, right, so I'll I'll just get 1978 01:41:16.119 --> 01:41:18.840 those funds back and I'll go to another broker. Well, 1979 01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:22.079 it turns out they've changed the laws so that actually 1980 01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:26.560 your broker's secured creditor gets paid before you do. So 1981 01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:29.159 in other words, the largest four banks, if there's a 1982 01:41:29.159 --> 01:41:31.920 big financial collapse, will end up with your stocks and 1983 01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:33.640 bonds and your retirement portfolio. 1984 01:41:34.159 --> 01:41:36.800 The toft of us, so it's our money and the 1985 01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:39.720 banks will get paid our money instead of us. 1986 01:41:40.760 --> 01:41:41.439 And it's happened to me. 1987 01:41:41.680 --> 01:41:42.479 Are angry enough. 1988 01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:47.960 It's happened legally. They've changed the uniform commercial code. It's 1989 01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:50.439 called in all fifty states. So what I've been trying 1990 01:41:50.479 --> 01:41:53.720 to warn people about is they've already done this contractionally. 1991 01:41:53.760 --> 01:41:55.840 By the way, one thing that I like to say 1992 01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:58.560 to people is we already own nothing. We just don't 1993 01:41:58.600 --> 01:42:01.600 realize it. So the which person signs like two hundred 1994 01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:03.720 of these clickwrap agreements every year, so you know, when 1995 01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:07.720 you iTunes or Microsoft or even your bank, you can 1996 01:42:07.800 --> 01:42:10.119 sign up for a bank account, everybody just scrolls to 1997 01:42:10.199 --> 01:42:13.279 the end and clicks accept. Well. I did an analysis 1998 01:42:13.279 --> 01:42:15.880 if you read these actual agreements, it would take the 1999 01:42:15.920 --> 01:42:18.960 average person two hours a day, three hundred and sixty 2000 01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:21.279 five days a year to read the agreements just to 2001 01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:23.560 even read these things. But when you do read them, 2002 01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:26.319 and this is what AI is good for, We've already 2003 01:42:26.359 --> 01:42:29.920 given away our privacy, we've given away our economic ownership, 2004 01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:32.199 we've given away our you know are basically our rights 2005 01:42:32.239 --> 01:42:34.840 to even contest anything that went wrong. And I'll tell 2006 01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:37.880 you how I've said, this is a doctor died of 2007 01:42:37.960 --> 01:42:41.119 food poisoning after eating at a restaurant that was on 2008 01:42:41.199 --> 01:42:45.640 a Disney property, and Disney tried to use his Disney 2009 01:42:45.680 --> 01:42:49.600 Plus Online service agreement to get out of the liability. So, 2010 01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:54.399 in other words, is what you got for The contracts 2011 01:42:54.439 --> 01:42:57.479 are so broad that they were trying to get out 2012 01:42:57.479 --> 01:43:01.479 of this, this liability. It's insane what we've given up. 2013 01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:04.159 And so I've created this owned nothing dot Org site. 2014 01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:07.079 It's a free site, but you can actually realize, hey, 2015 01:43:07.279 --> 01:43:09.520 you don't own the money in your bank account. They 2016 01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:11.880 can ancel the legally, I mean they can do what 2017 01:43:12.000 --> 01:43:13.359 they can kind of do whatever they want with it 2018 01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:16.479 and cancel your account. They can share your information. You 2019 01:43:16.479 --> 01:43:19.279 don't own your stocks or bonds in this financial collapse. 2020 01:43:19.359 --> 01:43:21.039 Do you even own your house? You pay more. 2021 01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:24.199 If you pay your mortgage off, you still have taxes. 2022 01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:26.159 If you don't say that you have to, they'll take 2023 01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:26.520 it away. 2024 01:43:27.479 --> 01:43:29.640 Yep. So we've been scammed. So the thing that I'm 2025 01:43:29.680 --> 01:43:33.079 advocating for is exiting the system, starting with money, but 2026 01:43:33.159 --> 01:43:36.199 exit the healthcare system, build parallel economies. This is what 2027 01:43:36.279 --> 01:43:39.279 we have left. We're not gonna win within the system 2028 01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:41.760 or voting but we can vote with our feet and 2029 01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:44.239 we can vote with our own actions, and it doesn't 2030 01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:46.399 take very many of us to do that. To stand up. 2031 01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:49.640 There's a lack of courage, yes, but it doesn't take 2032 01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:51.680 And by the way, the people that do have courage, 2033 01:43:52.039 --> 01:43:53.920 you know, they get imprisoned. That's part of it as well. 2034 01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:56.079 They wanted to they shut up people like Ian and 2035 01:43:56.359 --> 01:44:00.359 people like Roger because they speak the truth. You speak 2036 01:44:00.399 --> 01:44:04.359 uncomfortable truths. But we have to continue to. 2037 01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:07.960 To speak kill themselves and stuff too. Yeah, when there 2038 01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:10.680 when they're not depressed. As many of you guys know, 2039 01:44:10.720 --> 01:44:13.000 I run a free speech podcast that comes as a price. 2040 01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:15.600 It's being demonetized everywhere. So one way to support the 2041 01:44:15.600 --> 01:44:19.039 podcast to buy your books from Analope Hill Publishing dot com. 2042 01:44:19.359 --> 01:44:22.640 Dave's selection is The trans Industrial Complex. 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In 2050 01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:40.640 the back of the. 2051 01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:43.079 Head six times in the back of the head. 2052 01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:47.560 Hey, well, you know another we're talking about this now, 2053 01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:49.199 I'm like, all of a sudden, now they're saying Kurt 2054 01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:50.239 Cobain was murdered. 2055 01:44:51.039 --> 01:44:54.000 Dude, he was talking about some sex trafficking thing I 2056 01:44:54.039 --> 01:44:56.319 saw yesterday. And then like, I haven't gone down that 2057 01:44:56.399 --> 01:44:58.720 rabbitle by, so I'm talking about how girls were abused 2058 01:44:58.760 --> 01:45:01.560 by high level people. And then you know, he blew 2059 01:45:01.560 --> 01:45:03.920 his head off. I maybe blew his head off, but 2060 01:45:03.960 --> 01:45:06.359 if I was a huge rock star, I went blow 2061 01:45:06.359 --> 01:45:08.319 my head off. Life is pretty good when you're like famous. 2062 01:45:08.479 --> 01:45:10.760 There's you know, obviously there's still gonna be downsides, but 2063 01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:13.439 like it's harder to be depressed when you'ree the most 2064 01:45:13.439 --> 01:45:14.279 famous men in the world. 2065 01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:18.039 It is. And you know, actually, I had a person 2066 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:19.800 that I went to high school with who killed himself 2067 01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:22.960 after that that was kind of you know, motivated by 2068 01:45:23.359 --> 01:45:25.600 Kurt Cochin. And now you know, now we turn out 2069 01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:27.039 that that might even be fake. 2070 01:45:27.119 --> 01:45:28.640 And he was such a star at the time for 2071 01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:31.640 the younger people might not know he was just like 2072 01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:33.720 like an epic almost like a godlike figure of people 2073 01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:36.600 like looked up to him. Admired him. He blew his 2074 01:45:36.600 --> 01:45:40.720 head off for the shotgun. I think allegedly, yep, yeah, allegedly. 2075 01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:42.960 And then it turns and you started looking into he 2076 01:45:43.079 --> 01:45:45.560 realized that might have been a setup. How the people 2077 01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:47.760 that can control of the banks also control over information. 2078 01:45:49.800 --> 01:45:53.399 Yes, they do. And so anyway, I hope the Epstein 2079 01:45:53.439 --> 01:45:56.520 thing again. I hope we can't let go of this. 2080 01:45:56.600 --> 01:46:00.159 We've got to continue read we got and we got 2081 01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:02.279 to hold people accountable. But not only hold people accountable, 2082 01:46:02.399 --> 01:46:05.439 just stop using their money, right, I mean, this is 2083 01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:08.000 how they manipulate us. I mean they manipulate people and 2084 01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:10.279 to think, oh, what's your credit your credit score is 2085 01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:13.399 how well you comply with with paying back a bank 2086 01:46:13.520 --> 01:46:16.680 that printed money out of thin air? Like I actually like, 2087 01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:19.039 why is that? That shouldn't be a badge of honor? No, 2088 01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:20.800 it's like you're complying with these guys. 2089 01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:22.560 I went to buy a house and I had like 2090 01:46:22.720 --> 01:46:25.560 no credit score because I've never bought I didn't have 2091 01:46:25.600 --> 01:46:27.560 never had a credit card, never had to bought my 2092 01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:29.960 cars with cash. You don't have to buy the house 2093 01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:31.560 with cash because I didn't have a credit card, couldn't 2094 01:46:31.560 --> 01:46:33.000 get any credit because I thought it was a good thing. 2095 01:46:33.039 --> 01:46:35.119 I never owed anything. Shouldn't I have good credit. I've 2096 01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:37.079 never owed anything. I should have great credit, but instead 2097 01:46:37.079 --> 01:46:40.720 I have bad credit. But they call us free people 2098 01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:42.119 that don't pay their credit cards are right? They call 2099 01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:44.399 all this freeloaders because you know, we messed the system 2100 01:46:44.479 --> 01:46:46.760 up and realized that when you buy a car you 2101 01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:48.760 want to negotiate it before because they find as soon 2102 01:46:48.760 --> 01:46:50.600 as they find out you're buying with cash or disappointed. 2103 01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:52.840 It's a bad thing to tell me buying with cash 2104 01:46:52.880 --> 01:46:54.640 because they want that. They want that loan. 2105 01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:58.520 They absolutely want that loan. The whole system. So, I mean, 2106 01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:00.920 I think Henry Ford actually made the comment. He's like, 2107 01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:04.119 if people understood how the financial system works, they'd be 2108 01:47:04.199 --> 01:47:07.560 riding in the streets tomorrow. And I still believe that's true. 2109 01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:09.359 People still don't know how it works. But I will 2110 01:47:09.359 --> 01:47:11.439 tell you if you do learn how it works right now. 2111 01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:16.079 If you think that's bad, wait until we have everything tokenized, 2112 01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:19.159 Wait until we have tether with with Howard Lutnick, and 2113 01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:22.319 this becomes the you know, the digital dollar. It's worse 2114 01:47:22.399 --> 01:47:24.359 than anything even Henry Ford could have mattered. 2115 01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:26.960 Yeah, Henry Ford, such a great America and he assembly line, 2116 01:47:26.960 --> 01:47:29.359 he created I think the forty hour work week. He 2117 01:47:29.439 --> 01:47:31.760 doubled the pay all other companies had to match it. 2118 01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:33.920 He was innovative. Then you know, he wrote these books 2119 01:47:33.920 --> 01:47:36.880 that people weren't a big fan of. And he's obviously 2120 01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:38.880 controversial figure. But if he look back at the stuff, 2121 01:47:38.880 --> 01:47:41.079 a lot of us making sense. And you say, how 2122 01:47:41.159 --> 01:47:42.760 though treat this is worse than you imagine. I mean, 2123 01:47:42.840 --> 01:47:44.880 we could look at Gaza, they have them out our 2124 01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:48.199 surveill and how they're being treated. I mean that might 2125 01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:49.079 be how we get treated. 2126 01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:52.560 Kaza is a technocratic state. I mean, this is this 2127 01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:55.479 is exactly what they're what they're trying to do, and 2128 01:47:55.800 --> 01:47:58.079 we know what the endgame is. The problem with this 2129 01:47:58.119 --> 01:48:01.720 is it's not a conspiracy. It's spelled out. Technocracy is 2130 01:48:01.760 --> 01:48:05.319 not a mythical concept that you can google it. There's there, 2131 01:48:05.359 --> 01:48:08.680 they have handbooks, there's there are meeting minutes, there are 2132 01:48:08.760 --> 01:48:11.319 meeting notes. Read that. In fact, they tell you what 2133 01:48:11.319 --> 01:48:15.439 they're going to do. Read the un they're not They 2134 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:16.399 don't even hide it anything. 2135 01:48:16.439 --> 01:48:18.199 You will own a thing and you'll eat happy and 2136 01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:19.439 you'll eat z bugs. 2137 01:48:19.920 --> 01:48:23.000 They tell you this, and they're going to do that 2138 01:48:23.039 --> 01:48:26.600 through the tokenization of our assets, and that's how they're 2139 01:48:26.600 --> 01:48:28.479 going to do it. And that's why this is an 2140 01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:32.039 important issue. So it's not about bitcoin, it's about technocracy, 2141 01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:33.760 and it's not even just about money. It's about the 2142 01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:36.439 tokenization of everything that we own. That is, to me, 2143 01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:38.000 the battleground for free will. 2144 01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:39.680 What do you think is the first step for someone 2145 01:48:39.720 --> 01:48:41.119 wanting to get out of the system, Because this is 2146 01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:42.920 all so very complex. 2147 01:48:44.279 --> 01:48:46.560 I mean, the first thing that I do. I've done workshops. 2148 01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:47.920 I've actually my wife and I have gone to like 2149 01:48:47.960 --> 01:48:49.920 twenty seven states and everything else, and I go through 2150 01:48:49.960 --> 01:48:52.159 and I walk through, Hey, here's technocracy and everything else. 2151 01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.239 And then then I'm like, hey, get you know, I 2152 01:48:54.279 --> 01:48:57.039 would get people goldbacks and then teach people how to 2153 01:48:57.359 --> 01:49:01.119 download a download a crypto wallet, download a Zano wallet, 2154 01:49:01.239 --> 01:49:05.119 or download uh you know, uh Edge wallet or cake wallet, 2155 01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:08.079 and get a privacy coin. And like I said, I like, 2156 01:49:08.359 --> 01:49:12.720 you know, Zano and freedom Dollar, but start there, uh, 2157 01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:16.079 get get one of those privacy coins, get a zebig 2158 01:49:16.119 --> 01:49:20.520 debit card, and make a transaction, make your first transaction. 2159 01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:23.079 Because it's like it's this big barrier. The problem that 2160 01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:24.720 I've found is and this is why I said I 2161 01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:26.640 don't like to even get involved in these, you know, 2162 01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:30.880 internal crypto debates, because when I've done these workshops, I 2163 01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:33.399 would ask people questions, and what I found when I 2164 01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:35.479 would ask the questions is more people had heard of 2165 01:49:35.640 --> 01:49:39.720 Sam Bankman Freed than Satoshi who created bitcoin. And most 2166 01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:43.399 people don't know that bitcoin was ever used as a 2167 01:49:43.439 --> 01:49:46.000 currency to buy things. Most people only think of it 2168 01:49:46.359 --> 01:49:48.920 as a speculative asset. So the majority of the world 2169 01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:52.640 out there is not they're not squabbling with these ideas, 2170 01:49:52.720 --> 01:49:54.439 but they need to be made aware of the fact 2171 01:49:54.439 --> 01:49:58.039 that that it's technocracy is the threat. And so downloading 2172 01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:00.640 a crypto wallet, getting you know, a Zayo Freedom Dollar, 2173 01:50:00.720 --> 01:50:03.159 and making your first transaction, what you'll realize is it's 2174 01:50:03.239 --> 01:50:06.239 as easy to do that is it is to use 2175 01:50:06.279 --> 01:50:10.199 the traditional banking system. It isn't this daunting task. There 2176 01:50:10.199 --> 01:50:11.680 has been a lot of work done to make the 2177 01:50:11.720 --> 01:50:15.920 wallets easier, to make the technology easier, and so you know, 2178 01:50:15.960 --> 01:50:18.520 you'll realize it's it's a similar experience, or in some 2179 01:50:18.560 --> 01:50:20.920 ways a better experience than what you're already dealing with 2180 01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:24.439 with the bank. But you're not funding all of these wars, 2181 01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:27.319 and you're not funding your own digital prison. So that's 2182 01:50:27.359 --> 01:50:30.960 where I recommend that people start is with with money, 2183 01:50:32.039 --> 01:50:34.239 and then you can move into other things. I actually 2184 01:50:34.279 --> 01:50:37.600 recommend that people form a medical trust, cancel their insurance, 2185 01:50:37.640 --> 01:50:40.279 and start looking at medical tourism. Yes, because one of 2186 01:50:40.319 --> 01:50:43.319 the ways that we learned this during COVID. One of 2187 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:47.119 the strangleholds that they control us through the money, and 2188 01:50:47.159 --> 01:50:50.720 then they control us through our perception of needing the 2189 01:50:50.720 --> 01:50:54.760 healthcare system, which by the way, doesn't provide these great outcomes, 2190 01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:57.039 but this is how they do it. And so if 2191 01:50:57.079 --> 01:51:00.840 we can break out of that, then the people will 2192 01:51:00.880 --> 01:51:04.279 realize that, yeah, I'm not really dependent on this system. 2193 01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:07.279 I actually have control over my own life. I can 2194 01:51:07.399 --> 01:51:10.319 choose which money to use, I can choose who I 2195 01:51:10.359 --> 01:51:12.840 want to, you know, transact business with. I can take 2196 01:51:12.880 --> 01:51:15.359 control of my of my own health. I mean, the 2197 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:17.720 health system itself is garbage. I mean, you know that's 2198 01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:21.399 what health guidance else is garbage. But it takes a 2199 01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:24.520 long time. They've they've done such a good job with 2200 01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:27.399 the indoctrination of trust the science and these people with 2201 01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:29.279 the white lab coats or these only doctors. 2202 01:51:29.359 --> 01:51:32.479 Only doctors can read studies. You can't read it doctor. 2203 01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:34.720 That's what woke me up during COVID. I've just tried 2204 01:51:34.720 --> 01:51:36.359 for fighting. I was reading all these studies and I 2205 01:51:36.359 --> 01:51:37.760 would say what I was saying, people like, shut up, 2206 01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:40.239 you're not a doctor. I'm like, I'm just reading the study. 2207 01:51:40.239 --> 01:51:41.920 Why I wouldn't you to be a doctor to crunch 2208 01:51:41.960 --> 01:51:44.640 this information? This is what I'm seeing. What are you seeing? 2209 01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:46.520 You're not a doctor? Shut up? Like they weren't even 2210 01:51:46.600 --> 01:51:48.399 as asking kind of you're saying. They're not having the 2211 01:51:48.399 --> 01:51:51.760 same conversation I was. You know, even my doctor friends 2212 01:51:51.760 --> 01:51:53.319 I send it to, and I realized most of them 2213 01:51:53.359 --> 01:51:56.920 weren't able to like process anything other than well Fauci 2214 01:51:56.960 --> 01:51:59.279 says exactly. 2215 01:51:59.359 --> 01:52:02.359 It's it was a it's a complete appeal to authority. 2216 01:52:03.039 --> 01:52:06.439 And you're responsible for your own health, you're responsible for 2217 01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.399 your own money, and that's empowering for a lot of people, 2218 01:52:09.560 --> 01:52:13.039 it's frightening. And because of the way our schools work 2219 01:52:13.079 --> 01:52:16.239 and everything else, people are conditioned to give up their 2220 01:52:16.279 --> 01:52:20.000 free will. They're conditioned to believe in things outside of themselves. 2221 01:52:20.119 --> 01:52:21.920 So my whole big thing is like this is again, 2222 01:52:21.960 --> 01:52:24.119 it's about free will. We need to take back our 2223 01:52:24.159 --> 01:52:26.960 free will. Money. Money is the most found is the 2224 01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:30.880 foundational point of this, but healthcare in these other areas, 2225 01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:32.359 and the other thing I would say about this is 2226 01:52:32.399 --> 01:52:35.560 we've got to stop this white night stuff that the 2227 01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:37.520 believing that heroes are going to come in. Like I'm 2228 01:52:37.520 --> 01:52:40.359 still baffled about the fact that we went through Operation 2229 01:52:40.520 --> 01:52:42.920 Warp Speed and seven and a half trillion dollars worth 2230 01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:47.520 of debt and then somehow it a story was engineered 2231 01:52:47.640 --> 01:52:50.399 where the guy that did that is leading the Avengers 2232 01:52:50.439 --> 01:52:53.000 to save whatization this bath? 2233 01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:56.439 Like me, how people could still be maggat anymore. You're 2234 01:52:56.439 --> 01:52:58.760 trying to protect these sex criminals and the Jeff refteen 2235 01:52:58.800 --> 01:53:02.399 files that he's clearly part of the system. He said, 2236 01:53:02.479 --> 01:53:04.479 drain the swamp. I fell for it from Ante. I'm 2237 01:53:04.479 --> 01:53:06.960 not gonna lie, you know. I wanted hero I wanted 2238 01:53:06.960 --> 01:53:09.720 someone to believe in, but I realized he was the swamp. 2239 01:53:10.079 --> 01:53:13.239 Once he closed the country down for COVID, I was like, 2240 01:53:13.319 --> 01:53:15.760 screw this. He didn't close the country down, like, yes, 2241 01:53:15.800 --> 01:53:17.920 he did. He pushed the closure of the country down. 2242 01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:19.880 You can argue, yeah, the Democrats were saying he didn't 2243 01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:22.199 close it long enough, but he still closed it. He 2244 01:53:22.279 --> 01:53:25.439 still pushed Project Warp Speed it's like this guy is 2245 01:53:25.479 --> 01:53:26.319 not going to save us. 2246 01:53:27.520 --> 01:53:29.119 No, he's not gonna and but no one is. And 2247 01:53:29.119 --> 01:53:30.520 so I think the key part of it is that 2248 01:53:30.600 --> 01:53:34.079 we can be our own heroes. And and you know, 2249 01:53:34.119 --> 01:53:35.920 I mean this has got way off topic, but you know, 2250 01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:37.760 we could get into AI and a whole bunch of 2251 01:53:37.760 --> 01:53:39.520 other things, but like, figure out what you want to 2252 01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:43.199 do with your life. What I the American situation right 2253 01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:46.079 now is you have people working jobs they hate for 2254 01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:51.079 insurance that doesn't actually help improve their health, to build 2255 01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:55.239 retirement portfolios with stocks they don't own in companies that 2256 01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:58.760 are building their digital prison. And that's literally this like 2257 01:53:58.840 --> 01:54:02.239 the standard of American situation right now. And if people 2258 01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:04.279 could just wake up and realize, you know what, I 2259 01:54:04.279 --> 01:54:07.039 can choose to opt out of all of this, then 2260 01:54:07.359 --> 01:54:09.680 we can shut all of this down. But that is 2261 01:54:09.720 --> 01:54:12.359 the only way. It's through individual action and taking back 2262 01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:14.560 your free will, not voting or any of these other 2263 01:54:15.039 --> 01:54:17.720 you know, white Knights. Elon Musk isn't going to save you, 2264 01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:19.920 Peter tal isn't going to save you. A lot of 2265 01:54:19.920 --> 01:54:23.039 the people that are being shaped up as the next 2266 01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:26.119 White Knights, these are worse than the people that failed us. 2267 01:54:26.239 --> 01:54:28.000 You know currently or previously. 2268 01:54:28.439 --> 01:54:30.640 Yeah, they create heroes. Back to medical real quick. I 2269 01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:31.960 have a strong opinion on this because I was a 2270 01:54:31.960 --> 01:54:35.439 professional athlete for twenty years and you know, several times 2271 01:54:35.479 --> 01:54:37.199 they go to the hospital or something, they would always 2272 01:54:37.239 --> 01:54:40.920 recommend surgery, really push it. I always chose to rehab 2273 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:44.359 things by by myself, I'm extremely healthy, I have no 2274 01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:47.880 long term injuries. I've seen so many fighters get injuries 2275 01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:49.760 and ruin their get injury, go get a surgery, and 2276 01:54:49.800 --> 01:54:52.119 ruin their career. Their knees never the same, the back's 2277 01:54:52.159 --> 01:54:54.159 never the same. Now sometimes they are one hundred percent, 2278 01:54:54.239 --> 01:54:56.640 and sometimes surgery probably is the answer. So I'm not 2279 01:54:56.680 --> 01:55:00.199 an absolutist on this, but surgery should always be the 2280 01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:04.000 last answer. I've seen so many people butchered by these surgeries, 2281 01:55:04.159 --> 01:55:07.880 and that's just one example of the medical well. Even 2282 01:55:07.880 --> 01:55:10.960 if you look at the official the official documents show 2283 01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:13.920 that medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death 2284 01:55:13.920 --> 01:55:16.720 in the United States after cancer and heartsease. Can't remember 2285 01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:18.800 which order it goes, but it's like they're omitting to 2286 01:55:18.800 --> 01:55:21.239 like hundreds of thousands of deaths by a little medical 2287 01:55:21.319 --> 01:55:22.039 medical error. 2288 01:55:23.640 --> 01:55:26.920 Absolutely, and our ability are our bodies have the ability 2289 01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:29.680 to self heal to a much larger extent than were 2290 01:55:29.680 --> 01:55:31.439 given credit to. So this is again, this is another 2291 01:55:31.479 --> 01:55:33.439 part of the you know so much of this. And 2292 01:55:33.560 --> 01:55:36.800 I've struggled with my weight on and off my entire life, 2293 01:55:36.800 --> 01:55:41.119 in part because my parents followed and I followed the 2294 01:55:41.239 --> 01:55:43.680 USDA Food period. When I was growing up, I went 2295 01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:45.960 through this situation where when I was overweighted as a 2296 01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:48.600 kid and I went to nutritions, and nutritions said, you know, 2297 01:55:48.600 --> 01:55:50.359 you should eat eight hundred calories a day and you 2298 01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:54.439 should have no fat. So they actually they actually put 2299 01:55:54.479 --> 01:55:57.199 a plan together that said that I should eat snack well, cookies. 2300 01:55:57.479 --> 01:56:01.119 Yeah, morons, These nutritions are comp utter morons. 2301 01:56:02.199 --> 01:56:03.880 It's I mean, it's like it's a death cult. And 2302 01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:05.560 so it's like, so then you finally walk through that 2303 01:56:05.560 --> 01:56:08.319 and you find out all of that advice was completely 2304 01:56:08.399 --> 01:56:10.359 in totally wrong, and then you actually have to start 2305 01:56:10.359 --> 01:56:13.600 to begin to explore was this actually malicious. 2306 01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:15.359 I don't know the answer to that. 2307 01:56:16.239 --> 01:56:18.880 I've spent a lot of time fasting, and I mean 2308 01:56:18.920 --> 01:56:21.520 I did a forty day fast, but I've done various 2309 01:56:21.640 --> 01:56:24.960 you know, durations, and you start you start studying fasting 2310 01:56:24.960 --> 01:56:27.760 and it's like, hey, your body starts regenerating new stem 2311 01:56:27.800 --> 01:56:31.640 cells after seven days, your immune system reboots after three days. Well, 2312 01:56:31.640 --> 01:56:34.720 there's no money in that, there's no pill, there's no surgery, 2313 01:56:34.960 --> 01:56:38.119 there'sn't even food. So you know, so there are things 2314 01:56:38.119 --> 01:56:40.119 out there. And again this is I'm not good. I'm 2315 01:56:40.119 --> 01:56:42.479 not dispensing medical advice. But what I'm suggesting is that 2316 01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:48.560 people should start learning on their own and trying to 2317 01:56:48.600 --> 01:56:50.960 learn from first principles and trying to figure out how 2318 01:56:51.159 --> 01:56:54.600 how their body works, how the world works. Because no 2319 01:56:54.600 --> 01:56:55.760 one's coming to save us. 2320 01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:58.119 No, I mean, I pretty much agree with all that 2321 01:56:58.159 --> 01:57:00.600 the unfortunate reality. We don't want to admit it. We 2322 01:57:00.680 --> 01:57:02.079 want to we want to say, hey, there's a hero 2323 01:57:02.199 --> 01:57:04.680 coming to save us. So I understand the people, the 2324 01:57:04.760 --> 01:57:07.720 Trump people, they need a hero in their life, like 2325 01:57:07.760 --> 01:57:11.000 they need someone because things are tough. But he's not 2326 01:57:11.039 --> 01:57:13.680 your hero. We're the only people that can save ourselves. 2327 01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:15.920 I couldn't agree more. It does get scary, though, when 2328 01:57:15.920 --> 01:57:18.000 they're closing down the whole system on us and they're 2329 01:57:18.039 --> 01:57:20.840 throwing guys in prison that are trying to create alternatives. 2330 01:57:22.520 --> 01:57:24.039 Yeah, and we don't have a lot of time. This 2331 01:57:24.159 --> 01:57:26.720 is why again back to I don't want to necessarily 2332 01:57:26.720 --> 01:57:28.760 debate bitcoin. I'm like, what are we going to do 2333 01:57:28.800 --> 01:57:31.560 about real id? What are we going to do about Palenteer? 2334 01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:34.600 And by the way, you know that Maha has turned 2335 01:57:34.600 --> 01:57:37.000 out to be fake also, I mean they're working on 2336 01:57:37.079 --> 01:57:41.199 now wearables and they're bringing AI into Medicare and medicaid. Well, 2337 01:57:41.520 --> 01:57:45.079 this is kind of where you get to rationing healthcare. 2338 01:57:45.479 --> 01:57:47.279 We people like to talk about our national debt, but 2339 01:57:47.319 --> 01:57:49.800 we have two hundred trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities and 2340 01:57:49.840 --> 01:57:52.600 most of this is social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Well, 2341 01:57:52.600 --> 01:57:54.840 they're going to add AI, and now AI is going 2342 01:57:54.880 --> 01:57:57.600 to be giving algorithms as to you know, to ration 2343 01:57:58.119 --> 01:58:01.800 to ration care. So we need to exit all of 2344 01:58:01.840 --> 01:58:04.640 these systems. We need to not be trapped by the 2345 01:58:04.640 --> 01:58:08.039 healthcare system, by the financial system, by by any of it. 2346 01:58:08.079 --> 01:58:10.439 And even you know food, if you know, I think 2347 01:58:10.479 --> 01:58:11.560 food freedom. 2348 01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:13.840 Food isn't it's huge. You know, the food is just 2349 01:58:13.960 --> 01:58:17.079 poison they're giving us. And even you know, the factory 2350 01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:20.720 farm meat and the eggs and stuff. It's just absolutely disgusting. 2351 01:58:20.760 --> 01:58:22.760 You have these animals living in hell and you're putting 2352 01:58:22.760 --> 01:58:25.720 on energy into your body. It's like, at least get 2353 01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:27.840 like you know, it's more expensive, but get some ship 2354 01:58:27.880 --> 01:58:30.439 that's like, you know, raised properly. It's like people putting 2355 01:58:30.479 --> 01:58:32.319 poison their body and all these you look at the 2356 01:58:32.359 --> 01:58:34.279 ingredients on these things, is this long list of things 2357 01:58:34.319 --> 01:58:35.760 you have no id what the words even are. Don't 2358 01:58:35.760 --> 01:58:36.359 eat that food? 2359 01:58:37.920 --> 01:58:39.720 Yeah, no, don't eat it. And then you actually have 2360 01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:42.039 to check food food that used to not have those. 2361 01:58:42.159 --> 01:58:44.840 They're adding stuff all of the time. I mean, you know, 2362 01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:46.840 I've even found Oh I was eating this, I thought 2363 01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:48.800 this was you know, grass fed beef, and then it's like, 2364 01:58:48.840 --> 01:58:50.680 why is there multidex or in it? It's just it's 2365 01:58:50.720 --> 01:58:55.359 crazy what they're doing, and it changes over time, but 2366 01:58:55.439 --> 01:58:57.960 it's scary. The food supply is controlled by a small 2367 01:58:58.039 --> 01:59:00.840 number of players, the whole thing, and it's moving towards 2368 01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:04.079 tokenization and more tracking. I actually did a whole podcast 2369 01:59:04.079 --> 01:59:06.199 episode on this as well, Like farming now is a 2370 01:59:06.239 --> 01:59:10.000 whole thing. John Deere tractors, you know, tied to the satellite. 2371 01:59:10.039 --> 01:59:13.439 They're tracking all the information. Farmers don't actually own any 2372 01:59:13.479 --> 01:59:15.399 of the equipment. They have massive amounts of debt. 2373 01:59:15.439 --> 01:59:17.279 The whole thing is a aren't they not making that 2374 01:59:17.359 --> 01:59:19.319 much money. Now the farmers aren't They struggling. 2375 01:59:20.479 --> 01:59:24.119 Farmers are in credit, are struggling really badly, and actually 2376 01:59:24.159 --> 01:59:27.000 the tariffs have crushed small farmers in particular. 2377 01:59:27.279 --> 01:59:29.399 Yes, they're right, so you're seeing a big, massive farm. 2378 01:59:29.479 --> 01:59:31.279 Maybe we could do another podcast and that in the future, 2379 01:59:31.319 --> 01:59:33.680 because if you have in depth on that anything on 2380 01:59:33.680 --> 01:59:36.600 bitcoin we want to close with, or any final let 2381 01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:38.000 me you. I had a couple of notes real quick, 2382 01:59:38.039 --> 01:59:45.680 there's any important parts we missed? We talk about Howard Lutnik. 2383 01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:45.399 Well, I do. I do have one thing to say 2384 01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:47.520 about bitcoin that that I didn't say, which is which 2385 01:59:47.560 --> 01:59:48.319 is kind of important. 2386 01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:48.560 You know. 2387 01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:51.199 I believe people should be able to make their own 2388 01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:54.920 decisions on what they buy. The problem is that the 2389 01:59:55.000 --> 01:59:58.079 story with bitcoin is now getting moving into this area 2390 01:59:58.159 --> 02:00:00.239 of force. And that one thing that I think is 2391 02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:04.920 absolutely tragic was when this Senator Cynthia Loomis from Wyoming 2392 02:00:05.680 --> 02:00:08.199 went to this bitcoin conference and announced, Hey, we're going 2393 02:00:08.239 --> 02:00:10.760 to build a bitcoin strategic reserve. So she literally, with 2394 02:00:10.800 --> 02:00:13.680 a straight face, said the US government is going to 2395 02:00:13.720 --> 02:00:15.279 buy a trillion dollar We're going to buy a trillion 2396 02:00:15.279 --> 02:00:17.239 dollars worth of bitcoin, and we're going to hold it 2397 02:00:17.279 --> 02:00:19.640 for twenty years, and then that's how we're going to 2398 02:00:19.640 --> 02:00:23.479 pay back the national debt. Now this now is turned 2399 02:00:23.520 --> 02:00:26.279 into the realm of this isn't about whether I want 2400 02:00:26.279 --> 02:00:30.159 bitcoin or not. I'm being forced through taxation to buy 2401 02:00:30.199 --> 02:00:33.039 bitcoin through the government. But beyond that, not only do 2402 02:00:33.079 --> 02:00:35.359 I not believe for a whole variety of reasons, you know, 2403 02:00:35.600 --> 02:00:37.760 it's a great idea even as a store of value. 2404 02:00:38.359 --> 02:00:41.399 Cynthia Loomis owns five hundred thousand dollars worth of bitcoin, 2405 02:00:41.600 --> 02:00:46.319 So this would be the courting Nancy Pelosi holding a 2406 02:00:46.319 --> 02:00:49.239 press conference and saying, oh, hey, you know I want 2407 02:00:49.920 --> 02:00:51.880 here's a bill. The United States government is going to 2408 02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:54.319 buy a trillion dollars of my investment portfolio and hold 2409 02:00:54.319 --> 02:00:57.239 it for twenty years. That's actually how ridiculous. 2410 02:00:57.279 --> 02:01:00.119 It's not just Nancy Pelosi. I mean, she's rightfully called 2411 02:01:00.119 --> 02:01:01.800 out for it because she's like one of the best 2412 02:01:02.119 --> 02:01:05.039 stock trading records ever. But there's others doing the exact 2413 02:01:05.079 --> 02:01:07.520 same thing, like you said, Howard Lutnik, maybe at a 2414 02:01:07.560 --> 02:01:10.359 far larger and crazier level. 2415 02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:13.600 I think Lutnick is the word. I think people need 2416 02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:16.680 to do a full understanding of Lutnik and then also 2417 02:01:16.840 --> 02:01:20.439 tether the entire history of tether, because my concern is 2418 02:01:21.119 --> 02:01:23.439 this thing, this that started out as printing these digital 2419 02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:26.520 tokens out of thin air that they couldn't prove we're backed. 2420 02:01:26.720 --> 02:01:29.840 Now it's like too big to fail because you have 2421 02:01:30.119 --> 02:01:34.000 a Trump crypto advisor is the CEO, you have Trump's 2422 02:01:34.319 --> 02:01:37.800 US Commerce Secretary backing all of the treasuries for it, 2423 02:01:37.840 --> 02:01:40.239 and they're going to be too embarrassed to admit, oh 2424 02:01:40.279 --> 02:01:41.920 my god, I can't believe we just put all this 2425 02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:45.039 money and all this effort behind, you know, a ponzi scape. 2426 02:01:45.119 --> 02:01:49.439 Yeah, they could just so they I'm sure I understand 2427 02:01:49.479 --> 02:01:51.600 it's right. So they could just basically say they have bitcoin. 2428 02:01:51.640 --> 02:01:54.680 They don't. Creating bitcoin adds because bosely, you can't make 2429 02:01:54.720 --> 02:01:56.720 any more bitcoin. That's the entire purpose of why it 2430 02:01:56.760 --> 02:01:59.479 holds values. But if they're saying they have bitcoin, they 2431 02:01:59.479 --> 02:02:00.479 don't act we have. 2432 02:02:03.840 --> 02:02:05.960 There's another problem with bitcoin that I do want to address, 2433 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:08.560 which is that one of the things that people say 2434 02:02:08.560 --> 02:02:11.960 about bitcoin, why they're so excited about it, is that 2435 02:02:12.000 --> 02:02:15.520 there will only be twenty one million bitcoin. There's a 2436 02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:19.039 problem with this, which is that you know I mentioned before, 2437 02:02:19.199 --> 02:02:20.920 so the way this works, you have these computers that 2438 02:02:20.960 --> 02:02:25.000 solve these math problems every ten minutes, and then you know, 2439 02:02:25.520 --> 02:02:28.680 the company or individual that solved the math puzzle gets 2440 02:02:28.720 --> 02:02:32.840 this block reward, and every four years that block reward 2441 02:02:32.880 --> 02:02:36.560 gets cut in half until eventually it goes to zero, 2442 02:02:37.359 --> 02:02:39.960 and then that's when the twenty one million bitcoin will 2443 02:02:39.960 --> 02:02:42.760 have been issued. Well, the whole point of the block 2444 02:02:42.800 --> 02:02:46.880 reward was to be an initial incentive for miners to 2445 02:02:46.920 --> 02:02:50.000 secure the network, but the whole business model for miners 2446 02:02:50.680 --> 02:02:54.319 was supposed to be on transaction fees. So remember the 2447 02:02:54.359 --> 02:02:56.439 idea before it was if you were doing twenty five 2448 02:02:56.479 --> 02:02:59.920 thousand transactions per second and you're getting small fees on that, 2449 02:03:00.560 --> 02:03:03.159 you can actually build a lucrative business on that. But 2450 02:03:03.319 --> 02:03:06.680 because there are only seven transactions per second, there are 2451 02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:10.319 very little in the way of actual transaction fees. So 2452 02:03:10.399 --> 02:03:14.239 what that means is as the block rewards go away, 2453 02:03:15.159 --> 02:03:18.840 there's nothing to sustain the miners. And there's already been 2454 02:03:18.920 --> 02:03:21.600 proposals and discussions that have said, hey, you know what, 2455 02:03:22.399 --> 02:03:24.640 we're going to have to raise the cap. We're going 2456 02:03:24.680 --> 02:03:27.239 to have to go beyond twenty one million, We're going 2457 02:03:27.279 --> 02:03:31.399 to have to continue issuing these rewards to minors so 2458 02:03:31.439 --> 02:03:34.239 that we can secure the network. So one of the 2459 02:03:34.279 --> 02:03:37.359 things that's happened with bitcoin is that a lot of 2460 02:03:37.359 --> 02:03:42.880 the discussion has been about technical details, but they've fundamentally 2461 02:03:42.960 --> 02:03:47.720 destroyed the economic model that makes bitcoin work. And that 2462 02:03:47.840 --> 02:03:51.760 becomes more problematic as time goes on and as this 2463 02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:55.560 halving of the block rewards continues. So that's a massive 2464 02:03:55.560 --> 02:03:56.880 problem that has to be addressed. 2465 02:03:57.439 --> 02:03:59.600 I have one more question something I've alwaysought a little 2466 02:03:59.600 --> 02:04:01.920 supicious bigoint people get mabbing and mission this up. But 2467 02:04:02.760 --> 02:04:06.479 considering they use the NSA hardware, I believe to create it, 2468 02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:09.640 and Satoshi's this mysterious figure to be always thought there 2469 02:04:09.680 --> 02:04:11.880 as a possibility it could have been some government thing 2470 02:04:11.920 --> 02:04:14.319 from the beginning. Everyone says, I'm crazy for saying that, 2471 02:04:14.359 --> 02:04:15.439 but what's your thoughts on that? 2472 02:04:16.800 --> 02:04:19.199 I think it's Listen, at this point, I think that 2473 02:04:19.199 --> 02:04:21.119 that anything is possible. So I went through the I 2474 02:04:21.239 --> 02:04:23.039 was all in bitcoin, and then I was all in 2475 02:04:23.079 --> 02:04:25.399 all the flavors of bitcoin and everything else. And now 2476 02:04:26.359 --> 02:04:29.439 you know, if I'm being honest about it, I have 2477 02:04:29.479 --> 02:04:31.880 to say I don't know who it is. And the 2478 02:04:31.960 --> 02:04:35.640 thing for me now, well, it's actually it's it's a 2479 02:04:35.800 --> 02:04:38.000 humbling experience to as you go through it and it 2480 02:04:38.119 --> 02:04:40.119 and I understand why it's tough for some maxis to 2481 02:04:40.119 --> 02:04:41.800 go through this because you don't want to admit that 2482 02:04:41.840 --> 02:04:45.600 this thing that you thought was one thing it's something else. Right, 2483 02:04:45.640 --> 02:04:46.399 It's kind of like this is. 2484 02:04:46.479 --> 02:04:48.960 Fact talking about they can't admit they were fool. 2485 02:04:49.960 --> 02:04:53.079 Yeah, you end up having to forgive yourself, right you had. 2486 02:04:53.159 --> 02:04:55.760 That's actually a big that's a hard, actual challenge to 2487 02:04:55.800 --> 02:04:58.880 go through. And so I think it's completely and I 2488 02:04:58.880 --> 02:05:02.680 think that the challenge is is that bitcoin's not anonymous 2489 02:05:03.479 --> 02:05:05.800 and it is all on a public ledger. So I 2490 02:05:05.800 --> 02:05:08.399 think that's a that's a big flaw at this point. 2491 02:05:08.680 --> 02:05:11.560 And and so that kind of tilts me to leading 2492 02:05:11.600 --> 02:05:14.720 to believe maybe maybe this thing was kind of a 2493 02:05:14.760 --> 02:05:16.000 backdoor surveillance system. 2494 02:05:16.079 --> 02:05:19.640 The entire time people people always tell me that's absolutely impossible, 2495 02:05:19.680 --> 02:05:21.960 but I'm like why why they can't really give me 2496 02:05:22.000 --> 02:05:24.800 an answer. I hope bitcoin can be saved. I just 2497 02:05:24.800 --> 02:05:28.159 bought bitcoin, so I really want bigcoin to be able 2498 02:05:28.159 --> 02:05:30.439 to get saved. I hope that's an alternative. So we 2499 02:05:30.439 --> 02:05:33.640 should have some discussions and try to look at ideas. 2500 02:05:33.960 --> 02:05:35.720 And I don't. I don't have answers. I'm brand new 2501 02:05:35.720 --> 02:05:39.159 to that, to crypto. But uh, a couple of questions 2502 02:05:39.159 --> 02:05:41.239 close up Ethereum, do you have any stronger thoughts on 2503 02:05:41.279 --> 02:05:42.079 that are kind of the same. 2504 02:05:43.279 --> 02:05:46.079 Well, Ethereum's going through an issue now, which is that, 2505 02:05:46.439 --> 02:05:48.399 you know, they've built their whole thing on this idea 2506 02:05:48.439 --> 02:05:51.800 of having layers as well, having you know, building on 2507 02:05:51.880 --> 02:05:55.199 top of kind of like bitcoin, they throttled the main layer, 2508 02:05:55.239 --> 02:05:56.600 and then the idea is you're going to build these 2509 02:05:56.640 --> 02:05:59.720 solutions on top of it. Ethereum is now talking about 2510 02:05:59.720 --> 02:06:02.000 a band. One of the things I don't like about 2511 02:06:02.279 --> 02:06:05.000 ethereum is it's proof of steak, And I actually like 2512 02:06:05.079 --> 02:06:08.039 proof of steak if it's implemented properly. But to explain 2513 02:06:08.079 --> 02:06:11.119 what proof of steak is, you know versus Bitcoin is 2514 02:06:11.159 --> 02:06:13.319 proof of work, and proof of work means again, you 2515 02:06:13.359 --> 02:06:15.840 have these computers solving these math problems, and so whoever 2516 02:06:15.880 --> 02:06:19.239 solves the math problem wins the block. With ethereum, it's 2517 02:06:19.279 --> 02:06:23.119 proof of steak, and who who gets to add the 2518 02:06:23.159 --> 02:06:29.119 blocks to the transactions to the blockchain is determined largely 2519 02:06:29.159 --> 02:06:32.319 based on you know, do you how much ethereum you hold, 2520 02:06:32.640 --> 02:06:36.720 so it's actually concentrated in the hands of a small number. 2521 02:06:36.680 --> 02:06:38.760 The bankers and make the decisions. 2522 02:06:39.640 --> 02:06:41.399 So the problem that I have with Ethereum is it's 2523 02:06:41.520 --> 02:06:43.920 kind of like the federal reserve structure where it ends 2524 02:06:43.960 --> 02:06:48.359 up being concentrated, and because it's also transparent, you can 2525 02:06:48.399 --> 02:06:51.680 figure out who these big players are that are controlling 2526 02:06:51.760 --> 02:06:54.680 which blocks get added. So so this is my my concern. 2527 02:06:54.760 --> 02:06:57.359 But on the other hand, you know, Metallic behind Ethereum 2528 02:06:57.399 --> 02:06:59.880 has talked about moving towards privacy. So I'm all for 2529 02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:04.119 or if we need multiple solutions, and I'm hoping that 2530 02:07:04.239 --> 02:07:08.039 everybody starts to understand the threat of technocracy and people 2531 02:07:08.119 --> 02:07:12.199 start working on scalability and privacy. Because again I want 2532 02:07:12.199 --> 02:07:14.800 to go back to the project Hamilton that the Bitcoin 2533 02:07:14.840 --> 02:07:18.520 core developer worked on, funded by Epstein. They were working 2534 02:07:18.520 --> 02:07:22.520 on something that does one point seven million transactions per second. 2535 02:07:22.920 --> 02:07:26.319 So we as an entire cryptocurrency industry, if we want 2536 02:07:26.359 --> 02:07:28.840 to be able to compete with technocracy, we need to 2537 02:07:28.840 --> 02:07:31.800 be able to collectively as a group be able to 2538 02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:34.800 scale to handle transactions for the world, or otherwise we're 2539 02:07:34.800 --> 02:07:35.560 going to get stuck. 2540 02:07:36.079 --> 02:07:38.079 Yeah, So I think instead of a set of a 2541 02:07:38.119 --> 02:07:40.439 debate sometimes we have a discussion, you know, try to 2542 02:07:40.439 --> 02:07:42.199 get a few other people on and start trying to 2543 02:07:42.199 --> 02:07:45.479 come solutions. I think they're talking. They're trying to argue something. 2544 02:07:45.479 --> 02:07:47.840 You're not arguing the people they're asking for a debate. 2545 02:07:49.319 --> 02:07:51.680 Thanks a lot. Any anything final things you want to 2546 02:07:51.680 --> 02:07:54.079 close on, and also anything you want to plug you 2547 02:07:54.199 --> 02:07:56.520 it's your book people. I know you're on Twitter, Aaron 2548 02:07:56.600 --> 02:07:59.720 Day anywhere else? Is there anything thank you want to 2549 02:07:59.760 --> 02:08:01.239 hit too? We can hit any final subject you think 2550 02:08:01.239 --> 02:08:02.399 to something important we missed. 2551 02:08:04.079 --> 02:08:06.319 I think I think we covered most of the important areas, 2552 02:08:06.359 --> 02:08:08.319 but I just to summarize it, I would say that 2553 02:08:08.359 --> 02:08:13.479 this threat of technocracy is immediate. It's something that is 2554 02:08:13.520 --> 02:08:16.520 happening in real time without resistance because of the way 2555 02:08:16.560 --> 02:08:19.399 that it's been packaged politically. And so we are now 2556 02:08:19.399 --> 02:08:22.039 in a situation where even here in the US, we 2557 02:08:22.079 --> 02:08:25.520 are accelerating with digital IDs through real ID. We have 2558 02:08:25.600 --> 02:08:28.840 a backdoor CBDC through the Genius Act and this Clarity 2559 02:08:28.880 --> 02:08:31.039 Act if it passes, and by the way, we should 2560 02:08:31.079 --> 02:08:33.279 try to stop it to the extent that we have 2561 02:08:33.279 --> 02:08:35.600 a lot of effect on it. This is going to 2562 02:08:35.600 --> 02:08:39.880 add surveillance and programmability to every asset that we own. 2563 02:08:39.960 --> 02:08:41.960 That's what's being put in place. So if I would 2564 02:08:41.960 --> 02:08:44.520 say anything, we need to do everything that we can 2565 02:08:44.560 --> 02:08:48.319 to understand that and to build parallel solutions outside of it. 2566 02:08:48.359 --> 02:08:52.479 So I have a website, daylightfreedom dot org, which links 2567 02:08:52.479 --> 02:08:54.319 to five other websites that I have. I've talked about 2568 02:08:54.319 --> 02:08:56.600 some of them here, but that's the one, you know, 2569 02:08:56.680 --> 02:09:00.079 kind of destination point. But all of the websites that 2570 02:09:00.119 --> 02:09:02.800 I've built, all of the solutions that I've built, are 2571 02:09:02.920 --> 02:09:06.600 around exiting the system and empowering people with either information 2572 02:09:06.880 --> 02:09:11.279 or actually tools, products or services. And I would start 2573 02:09:11.560 --> 02:09:15.960 by exiting starting to exit the dollar. Download a crypto wallet, 2574 02:09:15.960 --> 02:09:18.720 I would recommend again Zano wallet or whatever. Get a 2575 02:09:18.760 --> 02:09:21.680 privacy coin like Zano or Freedom Dollar, get a debit card, 2576 02:09:21.720 --> 02:09:25.039 and make a transaction. Learn how it works. Don't sit 2577 02:09:25.039 --> 02:09:28.199 on the sidelines or think about it or whatever. Just 2578 02:09:28.279 --> 02:09:31.199 that you know the one, because once you've made that transaction, 2579 02:09:31.279 --> 02:09:35.880 you will realize that you can engage in voluntary commerce 2580 02:09:36.000 --> 02:09:38.359 outside of the entire system, and that will change your 2581 02:09:38.520 --> 02:09:42.800 entire understanding of how much power you have as an individual. 2582 02:09:43.760 --> 02:09:46.119 Great, thanks so much, and I think we'll be having 2583 02:09:46.119 --> 02:09:48.000 some more discussions about this because it's a new topic 2584 02:09:48.039 --> 02:09:51.560 to me, but exceed It's obviously extremely important. 2585 02:09:51.319 --> 02:09:54.800 So excellent. Thank you for having me. I enjoyed it. 2586 02:09:54.800 --> 02:09:56.760 I think of an error tomorrow, so i'll let you know. 2587 02:09:57.039 --> 02:09:58.520 They want to get it out right, okay, since it's 2588 02:09:58.560 --> 02:09:59.359 a hot topic. 2589 02:10:00.479 --> 02:10:01.199 Awesome, Thank you. 2590 02:10:02.840 --> 02:10:05.439 Hey guys, I'm demonetized everywhere, so if you want to 2591 02:10:05.439 --> 02:10:08.359 support me and the podcast, go to fight Back podcast 2592 02:10:08.560 --> 02:10:10.600 dot com and you can buy some cool merch like 2593 02:10:10.640 --> 02:10:11.560 the shirt I'm wearing now.