WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.839 --> 00:00:18.359 Coming to you from the dining room table at East 2 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:22.600 Barbary Lane. Welcome to a new episode of Full Circle 3 00:00:23.079 --> 00:00:27.440 the Podcast. A visit to our home where we squeeze 4 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:32.399 a few headlines for our decidedly queer lens and see 5 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:37.399 what happens. This episode is brought to you by Decanta Jugwane, 6 00:00:38.039 --> 00:00:40.759 the fan running in the background to keep me alive, 7 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:43.719 and my last queer nerve. 8 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:46.719 I am your host, Charles Tyson Junior. 9 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.719 And I am your host more than Madrigal. Welcome to 10 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:54.960 the Full Circle Table. Hi baby, Hi, I just figured 11 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:56.520 i'd get the fan thing out of the way because 12 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.920 I know it's driving you insane, but I am like nauseously. 13 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:02.840 It is, and I understand. 14 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.040 Yeah, that's as quiet as it's going to be. And 15 00:01:06.120 --> 00:01:12.200 thank you, because yeah, we have one register in this 16 00:01:12.319 --> 00:01:14.640 room and it just doesn't do the trick when we're 17 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:19.359 sitting here for some reason without a fan. So there's 18 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:24.200 a fan, okay, Yeah, Well, anyway, how are you. 19 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:28.760 I'm fine. Happy day before our anniversary. 20 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:33.879 Happy day before og anniversary. Yes, so we used to 21 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:40.959 celebrate the anniversary of our first date, which was July fourteenth, 22 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:48.400 twenty twelve. Yes, so tomorrow marks the thirteenth anniversary of 23 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:52.040 our first date. Yes, one could argue the first time 24 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:52.799 we had sexes. 25 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:58.200 Also because you're a little fast ass, I will. 26 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:07.159 As I said at our wedding, we've known one another 27 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:16.479 for twenty four years. That ain't fast. But whatever, whatever, whatever, 28 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:21.639 So Pride Month is over. 29 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:26.400 Helujah. We made it. 30 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:30.319 It's a busy month, it is. I've realized. The fourth 31 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:35.479 of July weekend, I'm not we did not celebrate Independence Day, 32 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:39.400 god knows well, but that was the first weekend since 33 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:42.879 like April that we have had an entire weekend all 34 00:02:43.280 --> 00:02:45.479 with nothing to do. It's true where to be. 35 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:51.919 I mean we we had hot dogs and hamburgers and 36 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:55.240 sat in front of the television and we watched sinners, 37 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:56.120 which we'll get to. 38 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.639 Yeah, we had cookout like food without going out in 39 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.039 the heat because it's been warm, right. 40 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:04.280 And we didn't do fireworks because the dog. 41 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:07.080 Yeah the dog does not like fireworks. 42 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:10.919 But barbecue is really all I care about for July fourth, 43 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:12.960 because you know reasons. 44 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:17.319 You had your mama's potatoes though, yep I did that. 45 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:21.000 Yeah it was fine, I mean it was, but it 46 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:27.719 was just glorious because we got to relaxing except for 47 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:36.000 Sunday when I spent a couple hours completely reimagining, rebranding, 48 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:41.639 and repurposing the trans support group that Elizabeth and I 49 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.919 have run for the last many years. 50 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:47.319 Yeah, you were reinventing. 51 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:50.520 Let's just say they weren't answering our questions. They weren't 52 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:56.400 being forthright. We really really tried hard. Our community center 53 00:03:56.439 --> 00:04:01.520 in Philadelphia's in a state of massive change. Blocks. We 54 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:05.439 hear they're selling the building. Depending on who you talk to, 55 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:09.599 there you know will be a future or there won't be. 56 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.840 I mean, there's so much happening right now. But we 57 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:14.639 were just trying to get some answers so we knew 58 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.040 where we stood financially, and we couldn't get them. Instead, 59 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:23.360 we were removed as administrators from the Transway page. That's 60 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:29.079 what's happened, and we made the decision immediately we can't 61 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:35.240 do this correctly without that kind of control over who 62 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:38.240 has access to the group, right, And so a lot 63 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:41.480 of things happened, but you know, we made the decision 64 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:46.959 to move forward. We estimated there were about ninety active participants. 65 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.360 We've got now one hundred and what was it fourteen? 66 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:53.800 Last year looked something like that members in the new iteration, 67 00:04:54.000 --> 00:05:02.959 which is transformation collective you and the F capitalized as 68 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.839 if you know, we visualize a whole bunch of trans 69 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:12.279 folks standing to get information and I love the word. 70 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:13.920 Collective, as do I. 71 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.480 So we did do that, but we did that from 72 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.800 the sofa. Anything I do from the sofa doesn't feel. 73 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:20.199 Like work at all. 74 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.600 You know, the dog's cuddled up next to me. So 75 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:26.560 it was fine. But you know, we had to do 76 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:30.639 that because we skipped one week and we've never between 77 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:32.800 the two of us, we have never skipped a Thursday 78 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:39.519 since Elizabeth took over twelve years ago. We're there right, 79 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:41.720 you know, and I've been there for a solid five 80 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.560 and we have never let a Thursday go by. But 81 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:50.120 the center was going to a point and overseer, I'm 82 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:55.040 just going to use that word, a paid employee to 83 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:58.839 attend all of our meetings. And that did not sit 84 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:04.319 well because there's no one on their staff who has 85 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:09.199 ever even been to a Transway meeting, let alone understands 86 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.279 what happens or the cadence of it, or who the 87 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:16.399 long term members are or how it operates or nothing. 88 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:24.959 They understand nothing. So that was insulting and yeah, anyway, 89 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:29.240 next exactly, So we did what we had to do 90 00:06:29.319 --> 00:06:31.319 to get it up and running. And then this past 91 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.279 Thursday we were there twenty two members on the call, 92 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:40.120 which is, you know, a healthy number of folks for 93 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:46.480 any week. But yeah, yeah, we're moving on. There is 94 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.000 an article in PGN we can actually link to it 95 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:55.800 in the episode notes that tells our story and quotes 96 00:06:55.839 --> 00:07:00.279 a press release from the center that is, we say 97 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:06.439 thin and full of holes, but whatever, I mean. You know, 98 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:08.040 when you have to come up pretend you had a 99 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:12.720 program and a plan, you know, and you pay pr 100 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.600 people to create a narrative, I guess you get what 101 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.920 you get, right. We just told the truth from our perspective, 102 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:24.560 right and you know, personally, and I can't believe that 103 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:29.040 we haven't interviewed Elizabeth on the show. But Elizabeth is 104 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:37.160 one of my mentors and sister mama girlfriends who kept 105 00:07:37.199 --> 00:07:41.759 me alive you know, when I really needed trans people 106 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:45.439 to lean on and learn from. And I will not 107 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:49.600 see how disrespected in the manner she was right. I 108 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:54.240 won't be there for that. That was also right there. Anyway, 109 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:58.439 That's the only thing we did last Sunday this weekend, 110 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:03.000 I had class and I got my pedicure touched up, 111 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:06.000 and we went and had some food. Yeah, and here 112 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:06.279 we are. 113 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:10.360 But before that, you were extra special, crunchy, busy things 114 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:11.759 we haven't gotten to talk about yet. 115 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.399 Well, yeah, I mean you mean still in June. Yeah, yeah, 116 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:22.480 So backing up, June was packed. On the twenty ninth 117 00:08:22.560 --> 00:08:27.199 of June, I spoke at the Woodbury Heart and Soul's 118 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:29.079 inaugural pride event. 119 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:30.000 Yes, you did. 120 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:32.639 We have tape of that, right, Are we going to 121 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:33.759 share any of. 122 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:36.399 That or sure, we can put it on our YouTube. 123 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:40.320 Okay, so that'll be available. But yeah, so I spoke 124 00:08:40.399 --> 00:08:44.159 there in God, it was hot that day, it really was. 125 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:49.799 But then the thirtieth of June, we attended Governor Phil 126 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:55.960 Murphy's Phil and Tammy Murphy's pride reception, yes, which included 127 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:59.360 the Lieutenant governor and all kind of mover and shakers 128 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:03.200 in the state. And we were there and that was 129 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:07.039 an honor, it truly was to be invited to the 130 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:08.360 Governor's mansion. 131 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:12.279 And aka drum fuck it, drum bracket, which is just 132 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:13.159 so much fun to say. 133 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:17.120 I know, right, well, I acknowledged, as you know, someone 134 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:21.240 invited to that party. Yeah, yeah, it was cool. It 135 00:09:21.320 --> 00:09:23.639 was and we took pictures just to make sure that 136 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:25.639 you know, any of these bitches that want to say 137 00:09:25.639 --> 00:09:26.519 we weren't there. 138 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:30.559 Right, you can see those pictures on our Instagram and 139 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:37.159 our Facebook and our threads on our social media, I 140 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:38.399 guess is what I'm trying to say. 141 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:44.360 One more thing is happening. So in June, we had 142 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:50.519 our twenty fourth spaghetti dinner, our Trends and non binary 143 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:55.240 community dinner started with about I don't know, fifteen twenty people, 144 00:09:55.279 --> 00:09:59.120 and we've consistently drawn about forty folks and all kinds 145 00:09:59.120 --> 00:09:59.879 of different folks. 146 00:10:00.480 --> 00:10:05.840 So that makes this month the silver one, right in 147 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:06.600 twenty five. 148 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:11.480 Silver, I guess, well, yeah, it's fifties gold. But it's 149 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:15.039 our two year anniversary. So we began in July of 150 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:18.000 twenty twenty three and now so in July of twenty 151 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.840 twenty five, we're celebrating our two year anniversary at the 152 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:24.440 next dinner on the fourth Sunday of July. We have 153 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:29.240 not missed one month of coming together and building community, 154 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:30.960 and I'm very proud of it. 155 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:32.279 Yeah. 156 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.639 Yeah, it's been fun, and you've been my bunny. You 157 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:36.480 go every time. 158 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:39.480 I only missed one. 159 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:40.440 I think that's all right. 160 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:43.679 I think I think that was the very first one. 161 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:45.720 Did you miss the first one? 162 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:47.799 I missed the very first one because that's the one 163 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:50.840 that uh, Julia was at and I wasn't there. 164 00:10:51.159 --> 00:10:55.559 Yes, Julia, Yes, yes, Julius Gotti was there. Julius Scotti 165 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:59.799 came to that first one. Elizabeth was there. Yeah, there 166 00:10:59.879 --> 00:11:02.559 was some good pictures from the very first one. Yeah, 167 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.519 and we've had folks dropping it out from all over 168 00:11:05.559 --> 00:11:09.240 the state and oh the region, just to kind of 169 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.720 come in and have spaghetti. 170 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:13.399 It's been good. 171 00:11:13.519 --> 00:11:15.120 It's it's always a fun time. 172 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:19.679 Yeah, yeah, it always says so that that is another 173 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:21.879 thing we will celebrate in July. 174 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:26.480 So we lost some people, yeah, since the last time 175 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:32.159 we spoke. Yes, and because we've had some really cool interviews. Yes, 176 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:36.000 and we had our minisowed from when you spoke and 177 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:37.000 Pittman right. 178 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:37.279 Yeah. 179 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:40.840 So yeah, this is the first time in a month 180 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.159 and some change maybe that. 181 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:47.919 We've recorded it sounds right. July was June was a blur. Yeah, truly, 182 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:48.759 June was a blur. 183 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:54.759 So uh yeah, a bunch of folks have passed sly Stone, 184 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.159 yesly Stone passed away. 185 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:03.960 Sly in the family Stone, not Sylva. Well that's stillw Oh, 186 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:07.600 that's right, that's stillone. Yes, sly stillone. 187 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:13.440 No, yeah, so sly Stone, Yeah, well yeah that's the way. 188 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:17.720 Yes, at eighty two, at eighty two, completely different people. 189 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.759 Yeah, sly Stone was. I am sad to say that 190 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:29.240 I did not realize how powerful and influential sly and 191 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:32.919 the Family Stone were until we saw Summer of Soul 192 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:38.200 h and saw the impact that they had. Plus you know, 193 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:42.000 hearing people musicians talk about their influence because there's always 194 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:46.519 there's been a bunch of songs by them that I like, right, 195 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:52.080 But yeah, they sly Stone was like a game changer apparently. 196 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.080 But much of their work predates your existence, right. 197 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:03.440 Not my mind, but yes, ye, just thing. I start 198 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:05.600 to say, not by much, and then I realized Summer 199 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:07.440 of Soul was sixty nine and they were already well 200 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:10.480 established by then. So yes, yes, they do predate. 201 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:10.759 Me all. 202 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:20.000 But yeah, one of the first bands to like play 203 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.279 funk and R and B and soul and be like integrated. 204 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:28.879 Really yeah, that was the thing. They had a white dude, 205 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:32.759 I forget, he's on bass or drums, some rhythm rhythm, 206 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:34.480 rhythm center and people. 207 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:39.320 Were like, oh shit, it's possible. 208 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:46.440 It's definitely possible. So yeah, rest in power to Slice Stone. Yeah. 209 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:51.480 So Ananda Lewis passed away. She was young, fifty two, 210 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:58.440 fifty two yeah, and that younger and younger, huh right. Yeah, 211 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:02.840 Ananda Lewis was like she was an it girl on MTV. 212 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:07.480 She was VJ. She was the original host of Total 213 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:13.759 Request Live before Carson Daley took over. And she was 214 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:18.440 just like the epitome of young and coool. You know, 215 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:23.000 she knew everybody. Everybody knew her. And this is when 216 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:28.799 I was still paying attention to MTV. Okay, and I 217 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:32.840 thought she was very cool. And so she passed away 218 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:39.240 in the beginning of June, like June eleventh. She lost 219 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:44.120 her battle with breast cancer. Yeah, so rest in peace 220 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.200 to the it girl Ananda Lewis. 221 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:57.360 Yeah. So John Robins and John Robins like I believe 222 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:02.960 I have the book for a New America. He was 223 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:06.879 a pioneer in the plant based movement and a leading voice. 224 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:13.639 He died at seventy seven. Here's the He was from 225 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:20.639 the Baskin Robins ice Cream Empire. That's his legacy. Yeah, 226 00:15:20.720 --> 00:15:24.559 that's where he grew up and he abandoned all of 227 00:15:24.600 --> 00:15:28.720 it to speak out about you know, the dairy industry 228 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:32.840 and you know, the unethical treatment of animals. 229 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:36.279 Yeah, I guess you can't. You can't do both. 230 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:40.120 Yeah. In his early thirties, and you know, and he 231 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:44.159 wrote Diet for a New America, which you know, drew 232 00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:50.440 upon actual studies, environmental research, personal testimony criticizing the American 233 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:54.159 food system. Within months, he became a sought after speaker, 234 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:58.360 media guest, appeared on national programs like Oprah, Donahues, CBS 235 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:02.559 This Morning, and the book sold more than one million copies, 236 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:05.600 cited by many predecessors. 237 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:06.639 Wow. 238 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:12.360 He did a documentary in ninety one, and you know, 239 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:17.480 he he was of the you know, T Colin Campbell, 240 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.000 John McDougall, that whole who all of a sudden. The reason, 241 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:23.799 you know, that whole group of folks talking about, you know, 242 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:28.840 being able to reverse heart disease, et cetera with diet 243 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.879 based diet is medicine. 244 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:31.600 Yeah. Yeah. 245 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:36.320 And he co founded the Food Revolution Network with his 246 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.960 son in twenty twelve, Ocean Robins. 247 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:40.440 Yeah, huh. 248 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:42.519 I did not make that connection between him. 249 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:46.519 And basketball really, Yeah, isn't that interesting? That is because 250 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:51.279 you know, he looked around at what dairy does and 251 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:52.679 how we shouldn't eat it. 252 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.480 I guess that's why they made the concession to have 253 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:56.879 non dairy options. 254 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:00.399 Do they have them now? I believe so, Mom, It's 255 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:03.879 about time. But yeah, he was a fascinating guy. I mean, 256 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.720 I hate it every time one of them dies too young, 257 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:10.640 Like seventy seven is not old anymore to me, right, 258 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:14.400 I want late eighties or later to say, well, they 259 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:15.920 lived a good life, you know what I mean, seventy 260 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:16.599 seven is long. 261 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:21.160 Well we do that though, like Black people especially, but 262 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:25.200 folks in general do that like they were ninety seven 263 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:26.680 years old, so young. 264 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:29.640 So say I don't do that with ninety seven ninety seven. 265 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:32.000 I'm like, so young, we should I say, we should 266 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.680 all get ninety seven years taken for us too soon, 267 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:40.319 you know. And I always say, if they're healthy years, right. 268 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.559 You know, My father died at seventy nine, but he 269 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:47.720 was other than the lung cancer healthy until he died, right, 270 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:50.240 you know, and doing the things he wanted to do, 271 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:53.920 tending his garden and you know, holding his great granddaughter 272 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:55.480 and those things. 273 00:17:56.720 --> 00:17:56.880 You know. 274 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:01.880 My mother did live to eighty seven, but those last 275 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:08.759 five years at least weren't good right, you know, house 276 00:18:08.880 --> 00:18:13.279 bound and falling, And. 277 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.160 I mean that makes a difference. It also makes a difference, 278 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:17.200 like you know what kind of person you are and 279 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:21.359 what kind of life you've lived, because probably there's certain 280 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:24.839 people that when they pass you don't hear so soon. 281 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:27.079 Yeah, nobody said that about us. 282 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.480 Sometimes it's like, well, that took longer than I thought 283 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:30.920 it would. 284 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:34.519 Yeah, it's kind of peace at last. 285 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:37.319 I mean, I'm not saying that about your mom. 286 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:39.720 I'm just saying I'm not saying you're saying her sister 287 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:43.880 said it. Oh, I'm just repeating it. Yeah, I mean 288 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:46.160 that was you know, it's become part of my story 289 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:51.440 for you know, good better. Otherwise we had a complicated relationship. 290 00:18:52.319 --> 00:19:00.000 She had a complicated relationship with almost everyone, and I 291 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:03.519 it took me a while to reconcile. And you were 292 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:07.680 there in the room. I sobbed at her bedside when 293 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:14.160 she took her last breath. I sobbed uncontrollably, and it 294 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:18.240 took me a while to say. It wasn't grief, it 295 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:23.000 was relief, right, And that's just the truth. I mean, 296 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:27.519 I loved her. She was a force, and God was 297 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:31.559 she a pain in my ass and the asses of 298 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:36.720 many you know around her, and people loved and adored 299 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:38.920 my mother. If she didn't give birth to you, it 300 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:40.920 was much more likely that you thought she was a 301 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:44.000 really cool broad. You know, she was funny, she was smart, 302 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:49.319 she was loyal to her friends. But again, nobody's one thing. 303 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:53.200 And wow, what a complicated human, right, So how do 304 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:54.200 we get on talks? 305 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:54.960 Oh? 306 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.920 Yeah, no one said oh too soon, No one said 307 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.519 too soon. We were all like, finally, finally sober. 308 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:09.440 Anyway, Lynn Hamilton someone who we did not say, right. 309 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:14.160 Finally Sanford and Sons, the Waltons died at ninety five. 310 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.000 We should all see ninety five years, I say. 311 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:23.799 Right, yeah, Lynn Hamilton. She was of a group of 312 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:28.319 black actors that like if she showed up in the 313 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:31.319 cameo on your show, that was one of the best 314 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:36.960 episodes that everyone remembered, like off the top of my head, 315 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:41.000 you know, besides her playing Donna on Sanford and. 316 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:42.440 Son Fred's girlfriends. 317 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.680 Yes, yep, I think of her. 318 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:47.160 She was. 319 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:53.880 One of the matriarchs of It was the episode of 320 00:20:53.920 --> 00:21:00.319 the Golden Girls when Dorothy's son was Dayton Roslyn h 321 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:04.680 huh and like Dorothy side of the family was like, 322 00:21:05.319 --> 00:21:08.400 she's old, and then Rosalind Carrish's side of the family 323 00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:12.920 was like, he's white, right, and like it was it 324 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:14.960 was Roslin Cash. 325 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:15.799 And what's white? 326 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:16.079 Right? 327 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:19.519 No? She was black? Who Roslin Cash? 328 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:21.480 Uh? 329 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.720 Do I have my Cashes? Next up? You must I'm 330 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:28.279 thinking of who's Johnny Cash's daughter? 331 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:28.880 Oh? 332 00:21:29.240 --> 00:21:29.880 Not Rosalind. 333 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:33.880 I thought it was I've seen. Now I'm being stupid. Okay, 334 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.400 now I have to know who is Roslyn. 335 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:37.920 Cash? 336 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:41.400 Who I'm thinking of Roseanne Cash? No, very in mind 337 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.640 I am. I'm thinking like, and I'm like, shean black? Oh, 338 00:21:45.720 --> 00:21:50.440 Rosalind Cash's yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Omega Man Yes, 339 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:55.160 Mary may Ward in General Hospital, got it, got it? 340 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:58.519 Gosh she died ninety five, she did. I didn't realize that, 341 00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:02.079 but okay, now I got it. I got you right? 342 00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:06.880 Yes, And and I just picture uh Lynn Hamilton talking 343 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:10.039 about Dorothy's son calling him a skinny white by way. 344 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:13.839 Well right, Well that. 345 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:16.720 Was also the episode of the Golden Girls that got pulled. 346 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:20.119 Remember during the pandemic when they were doing all these 347 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:25.240 superficial changes that no one fucking asked for? 348 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:28.480 Is that when Antemima left the label. 349 00:22:28.319 --> 00:22:30.880 Yes, no one asked for. 350 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:33.680 These Pearl Baking Company. Pearl. 351 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:38.480 They did everything except you know, battle, battle, police, brutality, 352 00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:39.400 right right. 353 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:41.640 Let's do all these performative things. 354 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.880 Yeah. So they pulled the that episode of the Golden 355 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:48.440 Girls off of streaming because it's also the episode where 356 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:54.920 Blanche and Rose were doing beauty treatments and so they 357 00:22:54.920 --> 00:23:01.319 were doing mud masks and they walked in with their faces. 358 00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:00.400 Right yeah, And. 359 00:23:01.880 --> 00:23:06.279 They pulled that episode because of all the things right 360 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:13.960 well right, yeah. Anyway, so Lynn Hamilton was someone who 361 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.839 was highly regarded and formidable. 362 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:20.279 Yes, and one of those people who you might not 363 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:22.359 have known her name, but you knew her when you 364 00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:22.799 saw her. 365 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:23.039 Yea. 366 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.920 She was just and everything she was in is made 367 00:23:25.920 --> 00:23:26.960 better just by her. 368 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:33.039 Presence, yes, yes, yes, yes, and rest in power to her. Absolutely. 369 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.400 This one is a nerd entry from me. 370 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:38.279 Yeah, because I don't know who this is. 371 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:44.160 At the beginning of July, Jim Shooter died, who was 372 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:49.119 a comic editor for Marvel Comics and he created the 373 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:54.759 Secret Wars. He died at seventy three. Secret Wars is 374 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:58.640 actually going to be in the movies at some point 375 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.440 in the next couple of years. But Secret Wars was 376 00:24:01.480 --> 00:24:04.680 like crazy because like, for one thing, it's it's the 377 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:09.400 series where the black Suit for Spider Man was introduced, 378 00:24:09.640 --> 00:24:12.119 and it was like, you know, all the different heroes 379 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:16.319 were sucked onto this like strange planet and forced to 380 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:18.559 like battle because like the good guys were on this 381 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:20.240 side and the bad guys were on this side. And 382 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:23.000 it was like all the different characters from all the 383 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.200 different titles were in one space together. It was a 384 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.599 whole thing. And I remember one day I was in 385 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.920 the bookstore in the Gallery. So this should tell you 386 00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:35.680 give you a time period. 387 00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:40.640 The Gallery existed and they had a bookstore exactly nineties. 388 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:44.599 Yeah, I think that. I think the it lasted into 389 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:50.799 like the early like maybe two thousand and maybe. Anyway, 390 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:52.799 So I was in the bookstore and I was just 391 00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:57.720 like perusing things, and I saw like a full trade 392 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:00.599 book of Secret Wars, like all of the issues in 393 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:05.559 one book, and I distinctly remember gasping audibly like I 394 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:10.599 was in a telenovella. Like I went and then I 395 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.759 grabbed it and I ran and I paid for it 396 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:16.799 and ran home to read it. Okay, And so Jim 397 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:21.079 Shooter brought that joy into my life, and I am 398 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:22.599 grateful all right. 399 00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.759 Michael Madison is another one of those like that guy 400 00:25:27.839 --> 00:25:30.680 that was in that thing. Yes, you know his face 401 00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:33.640