Speaker 1: Welcome to Jeff j Just bizarre Adventure. The two dates
Speaker 1: still only aunt of my podcast. Did we find anymore?
Speaker 2: Was there?
Speaker 3: We got them all taken down?
Speaker 1: Okay, I was. I didn't want to suggest that, but
Speaker 1: at several points during the recording of these episodes, I
Speaker 1: thought that's absolutely the right move.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my lawyers in the case issued some takedowns.
Speaker 1: We're fine.
Speaker 2: That's why it's been so long. Actually, if we're just
Speaker 2: one of to a little inside baseball here, it took
Speaker 2: it took a while to destroy all the other shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. It does take a while to see
Speaker 1: that stuff. I really like to download new video game
Speaker 1: trailers and then upload them and then copyright them through
Speaker 1: YouTube system and then copyright claim other people who were
Speaker 1: talking about the trailers. That's actually you know, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't like to talk about this publicly, but that
Speaker 1: is a good majority of my business at this point.
Speaker 2: It's a fair and good faith practice.
Speaker 3: It's honest work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like I like to see it as
Speaker 1: like a victimless crime, at least like in terms of me,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, the only person.
Speaker 3: The only person suffering is the sholders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, or anyone enthusiastic enough to talk about that media,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean fuck them right, Yeah, when
Speaker 1: we start.
Speaker 3: A minute and a half ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, we are gathered here once again to talk
Speaker 1: about berserk. To my left, she is the leader of
Speaker 1: the heavy assault nights. It's Lucy James.
Speaker 4: Yes, except I'm the weakest one. So that's why I'm
Speaker 4: the leader, and I just tell all the other boys
Speaker 4: what to do.
Speaker 1: It's a good grift. To my right, it's the the
Speaker 1: the the struggler. It's two more.
Speaker 5: Griftiff, does that work?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the famous that's the famous berserk line delivered
Speaker 1: in exactly the case. Give me, of course, your number
Speaker 1: one Corcus enthusiast. It's Jeff that's right.
Speaker 2: Hello, Yes, it's me once again, podcasting from the top
Speaker 2: of a mountain.
Speaker 1: I think, how are you wait?
Speaker 3: We discovered that you are not the number one caucus enthusiast.
Speaker 1: We may have discovered that.
Speaker 2: You know, I was really taken aback by that. I
Speaker 2: did not and could not believe somebody on the Internet,
Speaker 2: right of all places, was such a carcus freak.
Speaker 4: So for context, everyone, I am in the berserk subreddit.
Speaker 4: I enjoy you know, lurking, seeing cool things that people post,
Speaker 4: watching them have the same discussions over and over again.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I still Breddit, right, Breddit?
Speaker 4: And I noticed the other day and I popped it
Speaker 4: in our disc but there was someone with quite a
Speaker 4: sizable Carcus collection. And then John clicked through this person's
Speaker 4: posting history and uh, yeah, do you sure do enjoy
Speaker 4: some fan art.
Speaker 3: That's maybe not quite suitable for work?
Speaker 4: And I really wonder if we'd found Jeff's Burner account,
Speaker 4: but I guess not.
Speaker 1: That would be This was a little bit of a
Speaker 1: rabbit hole, this account from a few different directions. So
Speaker 1: when I saw the Corcus shrine, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: clearly this is someone some some dude like kind of
Speaker 1: having a laugh, like this is an in joke between
Speaker 1: him and his friends. And I feel like I was
Speaker 1: proved wrong in every single part of that sentence.
Speaker 5: Yeah, extensively proved wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this was This was a very enthusiastic lady
Speaker 1: who is just ex extremely infatuated with Carcus, to the
Speaker 1: point that she has drawn some very provocative self insert
Speaker 1: fanner of herself a Carcus.
Speaker 5: And you know, I've already tried to have it, and
Speaker 5: it's not working.
Speaker 2: It's not working. I there's a body pillow. Uh did
Speaker 2: you not see the carcus body?
Speaker 4: Let me get that custom made. I have a mass
Speaker 4: effect body pillow. But that was an official BioWare Lucy.
Speaker 2: That's your own business, don't we don't don't have to
Speaker 2: air your dirty laundry out on this podcast. Don't worry
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I also have one of those.
Speaker 3: It was Garris.
Speaker 1: I was absolutely go, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That makes sense. That's probably the only one that's acceptable.
Speaker 2: This person has, by my account, nine of those little
Speaker 2: carcus statues that I received mysteriously in the in the mail,
Speaker 2: presumably to enact some sort of ritual. I don't know,
Speaker 2: a caucus ritual. Envious perhaps, yes, because she has eight
Speaker 2: times the nine times the amount that I have anymore.
Speaker 3: I didn't even realize there was this much caucus merchandise, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I think, I just think it's all in this person's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have it all.
Speaker 4: Now there's there's another person who I follow on TikTok who.
Speaker 4: First of all, there's one person who's obsessed with just
Speaker 4: Randy Marsh from South Park and they have an incredible
Speaker 4: Randy Marsh collection.
Speaker 2: But that makes more sense than Carcus.
Speaker 4: No, the most obscure one I've ever seen is this
Speaker 4: girl who has a TikTok and she only collects do
Speaker 4: you know that jest from the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's no way, sort of I've seen
Speaker 1: this movie. I don't know how your book go on.
Speaker 4: Just that guy and she has an like every single
Speaker 4: item with one.
Speaker 5: With the like purple mask, right, that's the one. Yeah,
Speaker 5: weird talking.
Speaker 1: So I was doing I was doing a table at
Speaker 1: con not that long ago, and a young girl came
Speaker 1: to the table and she, I guess she revealed her
Speaker 1: special guy and what it was, the Torturer from Fear
Speaker 1: and Hunger. And if you played Fear and Hunger, you
Speaker 1: know that that guy is barely in that game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is quite the niche to get into.
Speaker 1: And she showed me, like all the different arts she's
Speaker 1: had commissioned of this torturer. It was at least twenty
Speaker 1: at least twenty different pieces.
Speaker 5: There was a period of time where I was watching
Speaker 5: I don't remember which Star Trek it was. It was
Speaker 5: one of the new Star Treks.
Speaker 3: Oh it was, yes, what the hell was it? Called Discovery.
Speaker 5: I forgot Discovery. Yeah, but there's a character that is
Speaker 5: introduced at the very start who is perhaps the most
Speaker 5: incompetent character I've ever seen, but every character treats him
Speaker 5: like he's a terrifying, like military leader. His name's Takuma,
Speaker 5: and every scene with him is absolutely hilarious because everyone's like,
Speaker 5: the great and powerful Takuma is here, and then he
Speaker 5: comes in and just enacts the worst plan possible, and
Speaker 5: everyone's like, wow, he's incredible. But you can also like
Speaker 5: see pictures of him, just google him, and he's an
Speaker 5: interesting looking creature. But apparently he I think he came
Speaker 5: back after he was supposedly killed. But I was obsessed
Speaker 5: with this guy. He's so funny to me.
Speaker 1: Is he a little bit like King from One Man Tim?
Speaker 1: Is that that kind of deal?
Speaker 5: He's a little more present than King, right. I felt
Speaker 5: like he's like the main antagonist for like the first
Speaker 5: few episodes, and he sucks so bad.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, Jeff, you dropped a morsel before this
Speaker 1: episode began that I have been so desperate and curious
Speaker 1: to chase up.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: Apparently Stace's in.
Speaker 2: That's right, folks. What Stacy watched these two episodes with
Speaker 2: me and was capital h fucked what like could.
Speaker 5: Not and and I gotta say the episodes were boning
Speaker 5: in it, and Stacy's op obviously.
Speaker 2: Well there you go. I mean there's some hot and
Speaker 2: heavy petting going on, which was funny because like when well,
Speaker 2: we'll get there, but like when when there's a moment
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh, it's happening right and I'm there
Speaker 2: seeing this for the first time, and she's just like,
Speaker 2: this is another day in Midland, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: what does she know? What does she have to compare
Speaker 2: it to? It took I would say it took like
Speaker 2: four minutes before she was like intrigued in a way
Speaker 2: because we watched We watched both together. I did no
Speaker 2: intention of watching it. She was just sort of sitting
Speaker 2: there with me and I was like, I'm putting this on.
Speaker 2: I gotta watch this. And we made it through the
Speaker 2: whole thing and she was like, wow, like this is
Speaker 2: I'm in I'm look and I think this is a
Speaker 2: really good, I don't know, better than other episodes, a
Speaker 2: really good moment to actually pop in even though there's
Speaker 2: only three left. After this, you do get like It
Speaker 2: was very easy. It was very easy to just like
Speaker 2: summarize everything.
Speaker 1: You know, certainly an interesting moment in all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is, look like.
Speaker 2: Because at the end of the at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, it's like, yeah, the s Griffith guy, he's
Speaker 2: in his dungeon now. But he was like he was
Speaker 2: the guy and now he's just being tortured in a jail.
Speaker 2: But don't worry about him. Uh yeah, I mean it
Speaker 2: was It was really cool to watch her, not like
Speaker 2: she would have gotten up and left. I mean, like
Speaker 2: why did I.
Speaker 5: Say, yeah, why does your wife song like Colcus?
Speaker 2: That was that was harsh. No, she'd been like I'm
Speaker 2: not watching yeah like that, or like okay, I've seen enough.
Speaker 2: But she stayed. And what was it?
Speaker 1: Was it the romance bit?
Speaker 2: Yes, it was. It was the fucking It was definitely
Speaker 2: the tree fucking uh well, they fucked it out a tree.
Speaker 3: I thought I missed something.
Speaker 2: No, the setting, the setting was the tree. No, I think, like,
Speaker 2: you know, she was like, wow, look at this guy,
Speaker 2: look at this guts guy. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty impressive. And she's like this is his sword
Speaker 2: so big? And I was like, that's a big sword.
Speaker 2: Wait is the sword changing changing sizes depending on the scene.
Speaker 2: I go, perhaps because it's entirely possible, because it looks
Speaker 2: like it is. I know, it's a big conversation piece.
Speaker 2: A lot of people discuss that, or at least we
Speaker 2: do on the only berserk podcast there is. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: was really awesome to see and like she had a
Speaker 2: lot of questions and I like, it does seem crazy
Speaker 2: that the fifth to last episode is the one to
Speaker 2: get swept up in it. But there's a lot that
Speaker 2: you go through. I will say, at the end of
Speaker 2: the second where all like these monsters show up again
Speaker 2: and we haven't really seen monsters in a big way
Speaker 2: in a while. That was a bit of like alright,
Speaker 2: well yeah, yeah, you know. A lot of comments were like, man,
Speaker 2: they really take a long time showing facial expressions. I go, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they definitely make a meal out of every moment possible.
Speaker 2: She's like, it's so dramatic. Oh my god, you get
Speaker 2: over there. She did, There is a moment I just
Speaker 2: want to put it out there. Now, we'll get to it.
Speaker 2: It's way deep into these two episodes. But when they
Speaker 2: get trapped in the cell, she was just like, well,
Speaker 2: that's bullshit. How come nobody was just like keeping watch?
Speaker 2: And again, we're not really cut from that different of
Speaker 2: a cloth, her and I are we because that's the
Speaker 2: same amount. It's the same kind of like criticism. I
Speaker 2: would throw back, how could you in this rescue mission
Speaker 2: not have someone or pipp it just out there keep
Speaker 2: him watched even though he does not open his eyes
Speaker 2: with emotion. Leader, I get it, I get it, I
Speaker 2: get it. And then I was like, I did say this.
Speaker 2: I was like before the reveal happened, I was like, oh, Stace,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't worry about that door on cue my man,
Speaker 2: just like pulverizes that. She was like, oh, oh he
Speaker 2: can do that. I go, yeah, he can do a
Speaker 2: lot of that ship. And then he runs up the
Speaker 2: stairs and just like what is happening? And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he kind of just does this. He's good for you know,
Speaker 2: his his rage meter had filled up and then you
Speaker 2: just double click R three and L three and this
Speaker 2: is what happens the guts and it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: good he does that, So yeah, pretty cool. She's on board,
Speaker 2: and I think I'm going to get her to watch
Speaker 2: the last three here. That'll be fun. I know, listen, listener,
Speaker 2: John's eyes and teeth just wins in a way that
Speaker 2: gives me a lot of dread. Fills me. My dread
Speaker 2: meter is filled.
Speaker 5: I feel like you should get used to herring her
Speaker 5: say what the fuck is going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I say that. I mean, let's be
Speaker 2: clear too.
Speaker 3: He would be the woman you know.
Speaker 2: I knew when uh when Judo right when he gets back?
Speaker 2: Was that who got back to camp to see everyone? Gone? Right? No,
Speaker 2: that's that's Oh that's riker ricor isn't it records?
Speaker 1: Sorry, no, it's Ricked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's that legoless motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Sometimes irish, but not always.
Speaker 1: Just for that one, just just that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, like because I'm like, oh no, these bandits
Speaker 2: like hung them up. That sucks. And then the reveal
Speaker 2: of like, oh no, it's just like a double faced
Speaker 2: squid monster.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is is this what happens?
Speaker 2: That go actually, no, this is not really what happens.
Speaker 2: And I turned, I said, you should really read the manga.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've become peak anime person.
Speaker 1: Now you should see you should see that. Though it
Speaker 1: is fucking horrifying. It's so scary, yeah, I I'd.
Speaker 2: Like to see that.
Speaker 5: It's extremely metal.
Speaker 2: Yeah cool, Yeah, send me that next chance.
Speaker 1: You get, I will I'll have I will get it
Speaker 1: to you by the end of this podcast, thank you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so a lot happens here. So we're starting
Speaker 1: off on episode I watched these last week, so I'm
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent remembering. Did we start off on
Speaker 1: episode twenty? Started off on twenty confession twenty cool. So
Speaker 1: we open up on the scene of Guts and Griffith
Speaker 1: about to face each other.
Speaker 2: Wait no, no, no, no, we're twenty This is twenty one.
Speaker 1: I think twenty one.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, when we start with Guts having had come
Speaker 2: back to say the band of Hawk.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's back, yes, yes, that's right, And so he
Speaker 1: Guts comes back and we're actually missing a character from
Speaker 1: this scene who I really love, called Salat, and he
Speaker 1: is I'm probably pronouncing that wrong. He is from the
Speaker 1: manga and he is just not in this version of
Speaker 1: the anime. He is in the film version, and he's
Speaker 1: very sick. But uh yeah, it's it was a bomber
Speaker 1: to remember that he's not in this version.
Speaker 3: Which one's here.
Speaker 1: He's the lad with the crazy whips, the brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and later later he made, he made, he gets a
Speaker 1: bunch of big mostly friends. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I just.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's in this scene, isn't he. I cantally
Speaker 5: forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And we actually there's there's actually quite a
Speaker 1: bit missing from the next couple episodes. But yeah, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'm recovering.
Speaker 2: Oh, blessed, bless you, bless you, but bless you my child.
Speaker 1: Thanks Carcus, No, father, Caucus.
Speaker 2: I'm a man of manners. Another man who is a
Speaker 2: man of manner.
Speaker 1: Is guts, I mean a little. Yeah. It comes on
Speaker 1: the scene and just starts fucking murdering people. It's been
Speaker 1: a year since the Band of Hawk have seen him.
Speaker 2: And I have that right, Yeah, I believe so.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They keep saying that a lot a year, a year,
Speaker 2: and shit seems really bad. Corcus maybe waits zero point
Speaker 2: four seconds for the battle to be over to start
Speaker 2: shit talking goots just to himself, just just to kind
Speaker 2: of just yeah, he's such a bitch. Like I know,
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to like him to follow with the stick,
Speaker 2: but like, man, come on, the dude's barely been here
Speaker 2: forty seconds and he's just like save your ass fucking
Speaker 2: guy again. Yeah, saves his ass. Corcus, you're gonna you're
Speaker 2: making it real tough. You're making it real tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But everyone's delighted to see Guts. And it's more
Speaker 1: than like they're happy to see them see him again.
Speaker 1: It's like we can go back to the old days.
Speaker 1: Like there's a real sense that like, finally we can
Speaker 1: do it change casks. Casker's acting a very commander e
Speaker 1: and not like really reacting to the fact that guts
Speaker 1: his back aside from being kind of shocked.
Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't it just me? Or does the does the
Speaker 5: art of the way he guts is drawn change here?
Speaker 5: Like in these last this episode especially, he looks way
Speaker 5: he seems a little he's a little more Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I was. He was like they cleaned up some of
Speaker 5: the line work on the way he's animated, and he's
Speaker 5: a lot shocked.
Speaker 2: He's got like product in his hair.
Speaker 5: He showers like, yeah, he looks more like a hero now.
Speaker 3: He had an everything shower right full.
Speaker 1: Wash, excuse me, and everything shower.
Speaker 4: So and everything shower is what you do like once
Speaker 4: a week where you do a scrub like deep exfoliate,
Speaker 4: you shave everywhere. You put a mask in your hair
Speaker 4: to make sure it's like deep conditions you do like
Speaker 4: little treatments and stuff.
Speaker 3: It's like it's it's in everything show.
Speaker 1: Okay, that that makes sense.
Speaker 5: It's a deep clean of yourself.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, okay, I feel like most all my showers
Speaker 2: are deep.
Speaker 4: No, because if you ever tried shaving like your entire
Speaker 4: all your legs and all that stuff, it takes a while.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, you probably go through multiple saving my legs.
Speaker 2: I've never shaved my legs.
Speaker 1: I've had to. I've had to shave my legs for
Speaker 1: like tattoos and stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess I shave my legs for my tattoos.
Speaker 5: I've never shaved my leg but I've had a large
Speaker 5: patch of hair from the middle of my leg removed,
Speaker 5: which was.
Speaker 1: That charity thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and let me tell you, it took a long
Speaker 5: time for that thing to grow back, a really long time.
Speaker 5: And I kept forgetting I had it, and I would
Speaker 5: wear shorts on like the underground and people just be
Speaker 5: looking at my leg.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 5: Looks like I went to get a tattoo and bowled it.
Speaker 2: When I h for whatever reason. When I was younger,
Speaker 2: I just like was like, oh, I'll just have a
Speaker 2: goof here, And I shaved like a big line in
Speaker 2: my chest, like up.
Speaker 3: I'll just have a goof here.
Speaker 2: Who knows, And it took like years to fill it, Like.
Speaker 1: Years, What the fuck?
Speaker 3: Why doesn't this happen to girls? Dude, shave my leg
Speaker 3: and that shit grows back in two days.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah me, anytime I shave anywhere, Yeah, it was
Speaker 5: back instantly.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: So Guts is told about how so it's a pretty
Speaker 1: like you know, goods comes along chops and people. That's
Speaker 1: kind of the battle. It's a little more involved in
Speaker 1: the the other movie, but it's so fun. Afterwards, everyone's
Speaker 1: kind of sitting around and chilling, and Guts gets told
Speaker 1: the story about how the morning after he left, the
Speaker 1: band of Hawk were called out for like training maneuvers
Speaker 1: really early on by the king, only to be ambushed
Speaker 1: and attacked with a hail of arrows. And since then
Speaker 1: they've basically turned back into kind of not necessarily bandits,
Speaker 1: but like their renegades, they don't have a hole traveling
Speaker 1: from place to place, and it sucks. It's I feel
Speaker 1: so bad for these guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were just yeah, feet away from greatness and
Speaker 4: then they got attacked. Just the taste the hope is
Speaker 4: what kills you, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you notice how like tolerant guts is to
Speaker 1: everything Corcus says?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Corcus will be like, it's your fault, everyone's dead, you
Speaker 1: useless moron, and then will be like, is a fair point?
Speaker 2: Caucus cow there brings up a good point.
Speaker 1: And it's maybe the only time Goods is ever reasonable
Speaker 1: with anyone.
Speaker 5: I think it's I think he's internalized the idea that
Speaker 5: the loudest, the person's screaming the loudest is usually the weakest. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's like you're nothing to me, your peace.
Speaker 2: It's it is weird. It is super weird. Why does
Speaker 2: he have such a long leash for him?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think maybe a part of it
Speaker 1: is that Goods did originally kill two of Carcus's friends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he's been he's been holding on like guilt
Speaker 4: it sorry you go ahead time.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say. I imagine there's a little bit of
Speaker 5: empathy there because Caucus is God's rage focused, whereas Caucus
Speaker 5: is just rage on focused. They're both the same kind
Speaker 5: of cut from the same cloth, but one of them's
Speaker 5: figured out how to you the things that make him,
Speaker 5: you know, angry, blood boil, whatever it may be, whereas
Speaker 5: Caucus is kind of like pathetic in that he doesn't
Speaker 5: have the capability to do anything with that anger, like
Speaker 5: gods has. I think that's always been the kind of
Speaker 5: point of contention between them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next scene and we get the torturer and Griffith,
Speaker 1: and this is pretty rough.
Speaker 4: Made the torture look like a normal human rather than
Speaker 4: he's a disgusting monster guy in the Yeah.
Speaker 1: In the MONGI he's like a bulbous, little like potato
Speaker 1: of a man. But in this he's like.
Speaker 2: He's a vampire.
Speaker 1: Slender.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like a slender vamp. You know, he's just
Speaker 2: I almost lost Stacy here, almost almost lost.
Speaker 5: Why was it poking the needles and.
Speaker 2: The branding and just sort of she was just sort
Speaker 2: of like I don't need She's like, I don't need
Speaker 2: to see this. It was like a cartoon.
Speaker 4: He a lot more I would I would go and
Speaker 4: say the Torch was a lot worse than the manga.
Speaker 2: In the manga, yeah, yeah, right, And that's when I said,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, don't read the manga, I said. I
Speaker 2: was like, at that moment, we're going.
Speaker 1: To come on some really interesting sections where you totally
Speaker 1: should and then totally shouldn't read the manga in the
Speaker 1: next little bit. Okay, yeah, this seems pretty rough. There's
Speaker 1: that one shot where you see Griffith's hands and for
Speaker 1: a second it kind of looks like he's wearing nail polish,
Speaker 1: like dark mail. Yes, like, oh that looks that looks sick, Griffith,
Speaker 1: you look so fucked. And then you're like, oh, oh no, okay, ah,
Speaker 1: those they're just hands with their fingernails.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact the Torch says like, yeah, I'm so
Speaker 4: good at my job essentially, you know, just like keeping
Speaker 4: you at the very edge of living, inflicting as much
Speaker 4: pain as possible.
Speaker 1: And it's been that way for a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah a year, dude, What when you go to school
Speaker 2: for that? Like what do you how do you do
Speaker 2: you become that?
Speaker 3: And he's I don't know, he's just allowed to practice.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, you know, content warning way here,
Speaker 6: but like in the book and in the manga, yeah,
Speaker 6: he's like raped by this torture multiple times too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's not shown, but the torture like says
Speaker 4: it says something like, I've never been with someone as
Speaker 4: beautiful as you or something like that, and he flays
Speaker 4: him like he would just cut off patches of his skin.
Speaker 4: And so when he's actually found, he is kind of
Speaker 4: missing a bunch of his skin.
Speaker 5: Muchach.
Speaker 3: He is in much much worse shape than he is
Speaker 3: in the anime.
Speaker 1: Yeah. In the anime, like he's still fucked up, but
Speaker 1: it is kind of like, oh, maybe he can walk
Speaker 1: it off at least for you think that for a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, in the in the manga, like dude
Speaker 1: is a living corpse.
Speaker 5: Yeah. In the anime, it looks like there's been more
Speaker 5: mental torture, even though it's star because he's but yeah,
Speaker 5: but when he's reading him in the manga, it's like,
Speaker 5: oh no, he's been physically destroyed. How he ever even
Speaker 5: stand again?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Back at the camp, they as the torture also chucked
Speaker 5: away the behel it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh right, the nose egg that's gone
Speaker 2: now that's in the sewers.
Speaker 5: Yes, it is.
Speaker 1: The nose egg. Like at this point, it's kind of
Speaker 1: interesting because it's it's been in the story so long
Speaker 1: and we still have no fucking eye idea. But it's not.
Speaker 1: It's just like, what do you think.
Speaker 5: I do you think it is?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I will say they've not done a really and
Speaker 2: that's deliberate, but like you're not really left with any
Speaker 2: sort of ability to make an educated guess aside from
Speaker 2: like it's magic, right, like you know, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know, like it does seem to like Zod was like, yo,
Speaker 2: you got the fucking the red egg. That's important.
Speaker 5: Over here.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that since when I was in high school.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love a boo boo bail it.
Speaker 2: That'd be sick. They you know, obviously this show would
Speaker 2: not start every episode with that freakish hand holding it right,
Speaker 2: like something's going on. But you know, I look, maybe
Speaker 2: it's all super backloaded. It is.
Speaker 1: We're at the end, well to the end of that anime,
Speaker 1: but in terms of the manga, like maybe less than
Speaker 1: a quarter all.
Speaker 2: Right, well, I you know, I don't know. I'm kind
Speaker 2: of I kind of go back and forth on it.
Speaker 2: I do wish we got more of more action with
Speaker 2: the bailet you know, oh you will, Okay, cool? So
Speaker 2: right now, it's just in the sewer. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: anytime there is I'll say this, anytime that thing is
Speaker 2: exposed more often than not, that's when we get all
Speaker 2: the monsters right, So certainly there's a correlation.
Speaker 1: There would seem to be seemed to be. So next
Speaker 1: scene we finally get like the proper reuniting of Kaska
Speaker 1: and Gouts. Well, I mean not right away, but there's
Speaker 1: a little little bit of tension, a little bit of
Speaker 1: friction in the beginning here, and that gas Cask kind
Speaker 1: of looks like she's trying to murder Goots. What just
Speaker 1: takes on the take on this scene just.
Speaker 2: Sort of stabs him in the armpit all bit a.
Speaker 3: Woman scorned, you know, that's a how could you do this?
Speaker 5: Where have you been?
Speaker 3: You know, sitting on the step you left me? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I had to clean up.
Speaker 5: Look who's back when? Well, ago.
Speaker 2: That stupid smelly idiot Corcus you left me with him.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: She's not wrong, And I think there's like a part
Speaker 1: of it as well where it's like, now that Guts
Speaker 1: is back, I think Cask is like really feeling it.
Speaker 1: She's like, that's a handsome man, and yeah, she can
Speaker 1: either lean into that or go the complete opposite direction,
Speaker 1: and so she stabs him with the sword.
Speaker 5: Of course, she's like, you look like you've had a deep,
Speaker 5: clean shower.
Speaker 1: I never understood that line until we've recorded today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, after she stabs Guts, casks like, oh, actually,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy to see your back, but also
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw myself off this cliff. That's cool with you.
Speaker 1: It is okay cool, And then she does it.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, this is like a nice bit
Speaker 4: of closure your back. Now it's time for me to
Speaker 4: jump off this cliff.
Speaker 2: I said it like that.
Speaker 5: You know, it's just like waiting for you to come
Speaker 5: to the door so they can clock off.
Speaker 2: I saw this coming a mile away. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 2: she's I was like, she's jumping totally. I was like,
Speaker 2: it's happening.
Speaker 1: Or is she Because she's caught last minute in one
Speaker 1: of those real like cuts that really pushes the boundaries
Speaker 1: of space time where yeah, like Guts is a good
Speaker 1: like five meters away from her, she jumps off. We
Speaker 1: cut and then he's right there.
Speaker 5: You know, the craziest thing but it is he's also
Speaker 5: still holding his sword, so he didn't like put his
Speaker 5: sword down so he could move faster. He's like, nor this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was very silly but funny. I had to laugh. Uh.
Speaker 2: They show her fall a great deal before.
Speaker 4: It's it's Liam Neeson jumping over the fence and taken. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's like ten different cuts of him just jumping
Speaker 4: over a fence.
Speaker 5: It's incredible, back to back.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad he grabbed her. Right Where would we go?
Speaker 2: Although I'm going to say this, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 2: say what Stace's getting careful, I'm just saying what she said. Okay,
Speaker 2: she said, this girl is not surviving this show.
Speaker 5: M hmm. Interesting What was her reasoning?
Speaker 2: He's like, you don't so Stacy always does this, you know.
Speaker 2: She She's always like, this is how they're going to
Speaker 2: do it. I don't character they're not saving this girl
Speaker 2: just to not have her die another time. Interesting is
Speaker 2: her position? That's her position.
Speaker 1: Okay, so watch it. Maybe I've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: Watching movies with Michelle is like watching movies with a
Speaker 1: tiny plot unraveling robot just every oh my god, like
Speaker 1: everything like the worst the worst feeling is there'll be
Speaker 1: like a twist in a movie and like I'm pretty okay.
Speaker 1: It's spotting that stuff, you know. But sometimes when we'll
Speaker 1: get me, I'll I don't kind of turn to Michelle
Speaker 1: like can you fucking believe this and the look of
Speaker 1: just oh you poor stupid idiot on her face.
Speaker 5: And Yep, that happened to me. Or watching one battle
Speaker 5: after another and my wife was like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: I was like, how did you? Yeah, but like it's
Speaker 5: funny she was. I would loudly be like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's that's one of my favorite kinds
Speaker 1: of people to watch media with, though, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the reactors I have I ever felt, Yeah, the reactor.
Speaker 1: It's like every little thing is like and it's like,
Speaker 1: you want so fun.
Speaker 5: If you want to feel good about anything you've created
Speaker 5: that has the intention of like manipulating emotions in a viewer.
Speaker 5: She's incredible, Like you watch anything with her, like she's
Speaker 5: gasping during bake Off and I'm.
Speaker 1: Just like, and what do you think? Going about l
Speaker 1: after another?
Speaker 5: It's finely loved it. Such a good amazing, such a
Speaker 5: good movie.
Speaker 2: I got to watch that, dude.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean Penn doing his best Vince McMahon, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Quick three hours of my life. By the way, don't
Speaker 3: be put out. Don't be put off by the runtime.
Speaker 5: Depends the wrong is he?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, too many rongins, too many rongans. But we
Speaker 1: also got a couple of writings in here, and we
Speaker 1: get a very long So after this Casca like kind
Speaker 1: of chills down, she kind of and I guess at
Speaker 1: this point she has no choice but to admit how
Speaker 1: much she cares about Guts, and there is you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not like a big like romance person. Not a
Speaker 1: lot of romance really gets me in media. These two
Speaker 1: get me the eye. Fum, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 5: Isn't She like she's very much talking ship to him
Speaker 5: as well. She basically says, I am I realized that
Speaker 5: Griffith doesn't give a ship about me, so now I'm
Speaker 5: in love with you and it's just like.
Speaker 1: What I think for me. It read more as just
Speaker 1: confusion of so long ago she cemented her life as
Speaker 1: I am here to serve Griffith. That is what I do.
Speaker 1: And it's more her trying to like justify to herself
Speaker 1: her feelings to goods towards Goots, because this is fucking
Speaker 1: everything up kinda. But there is also an element of
Speaker 1: it is like, yeah, I'm never gonna be with Griffith,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because she's like I will never be anything to him.
Speaker 5: And then she like throws herself off the cliff and
Speaker 5: God is like, that's my girl.
Speaker 2: Time to swoop in.
Speaker 1: We get some two absolutely fucking gorgeous pencil drawings here.
Speaker 1: It's like one of those like scan like the where
Speaker 1: they kind of just pan up the drawing and one
Speaker 1: is of like Kaska looking wistfully off into the distance,
Speaker 1: and it is God, it's so gorgeous. I would love
Speaker 1: like that, Prince. And then finally they kiss and we cush.
Speaker 3: That's my tattoo, Jeff.
Speaker 2: Oh, now you.
Speaker 3: Can finally know what my tattoo is.
Speaker 2: And I thought it was other other other people kissing.
Speaker 2: It's got I never really stared at it, yeah, because it's.
Speaker 3: On my thigh, so that would be weird. Thank you
Speaker 3: for not staring.
Speaker 2: You're welcome. H Yeah, that's that. Those are the reasons.
Speaker 3: No, I have that tattooed on my thigh. It's the
Speaker 3: two panels, one with it like.
Speaker 4: Shy and then the little kids.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing the sound in the music in my head
Speaker 2: now it's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then they kiss and we get a very
Speaker 1: tasteful flashed white Yeah, fade back from white and they're
Speaker 1: both another. Oh my god, it's such a beautiful drawing
Speaker 1: of I think it's like maybe it's watercolors. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but it's naked on the ground kissing on a fucking yeah.
Speaker 2: Very tasteful.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you if you would like to see
Speaker 1: what happens in between that during that flash of light,
Speaker 1: may because that is some that is some really great
Speaker 1: tender fucking Let me tell you.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, just at a curiosity. What level of detail
Speaker 2: are we talking here? Okay, we're definitely talking titty. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: we're always talking titty.
Speaker 1: We're okay, we'll not I think I think there's some like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't see dick going into the vagin?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, could you be less? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: So do you remember do you guys remember like ten
Speaker 1: seconds ago when Jeff was like, so.
Speaker 2: John, so what are we here?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 2: Yes? But I you know, I was I was curious, like,
Speaker 2: is it like a soft core thing? Is it like? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that those are the words I was looking for it.
Speaker 2: But that's fine. I'm okay.
Speaker 1: I would say it's soft core. I I would say,
Speaker 1: like there is a tenderness and intimacy to it that
Speaker 1: I think is genuinely lovely. Like I think, I think
Speaker 1: doing a authentic, feeling, passionate sex scene is probably not easy, right,
Speaker 1: And I think that the Berserk manga does it fucking phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, phenomenal. Literally, who were the greatest?
Speaker 5: I was so like the kind of reflection of this
Speaker 5: image because it is the last time we saw him
Speaker 5: sitting like this. It was in a tree like this,
Speaker 5: but with his sword now.
Speaker 1: Right, yep, yep. Lovely, Yeah, very very lovely. So there's
Speaker 1: there's kind of some naked cuddling after this, just just noddling,
Speaker 1: as we like to call it noddling. And I I
Speaker 1: like this. I like the shout at the end where
Speaker 1: he just kind of leans down and kisses her, and
Speaker 1: like the rays of sun are coming in and the
Speaker 1: big tree. It's just beautiful. It's just really really lovely.
Speaker 1: We then get a scene. So I think I've kind
Speaker 1: of told this story before, but like the first time,
Speaker 1: I seah, I definitely have the first time I saw Berserk,
Speaker 1: it was the first two berserk movies and they're what
Speaker 1: the only supernatural thing in it was odd they didn't
Speaker 1: have the first episode. They just had this. And so
Speaker 1: when this scene kicked in with the two uh, the
Speaker 1: two guys cutting down a tree and there's like, oh,
Speaker 1: hard days work, but we can finish up there and yeah,
Speaker 1: the sky is red. And then they look up on
Speaker 1: the horizon and see a giant cobra man walking above
Speaker 1: the tree tops.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet that came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 5: How did you feel about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that reveal the cobra, you know, Like for me,
Speaker 2: I'm just I So it was funny because I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: Zod's back. Oh yeah, right, like what else am I
Speaker 2: supposed to think?
Speaker 5: Oh you think you thought that was.
Speaker 3: Back in general?
Speaker 2: In general? Yeah? Or no, I thought it was him
Speaker 2: the right they turned it like red.
Speaker 5: He is the same kind of like uh screaming as
Speaker 5: when Zo appears.
Speaker 2: So I'm under the impression that, oh, my boys, the immortal,
Speaker 2: the one true, the one true hero. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: making his triumph and return. And then yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2: It's fucking weird, It's cool. Yeah, but yeah, that's that's
Speaker 2: what I thought it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: We then get a short scene and the mission is clear.
Speaker 1: They're gonna rescue our boy Griffith.
Speaker 2: Mmmm as they should. And now it's in Ocean's eleven.
Speaker 5: Yep yep, basically snatch.
Speaker 1: We then begin episode twenty two, and I would say,
Speaker 1: this one's grim, This is a nasty episode.
Speaker 2: This one is an all timer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a good one for Stacey to watch.
Speaker 2: Like seriously, I know we're making like a joke, but
Speaker 2: like I was like wow, because you know, like every
Speaker 2: now and then, like I remember, there's like a Cowboy Bebop.
Speaker 2: She like sat in on and she was sort of
Speaker 2: just like, look, if there's no pregnant ladies in this,
Speaker 2: I don't want nothing to do with it. And I
Speaker 2: was like, wait, who s did that?
Speaker 5: Did she say that? Or did you say that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What did I say?
Speaker 5: This isnt m only.
Speaker 2: Who's talking about Cowboy are talking.
Speaker 1: About recording the second episode of Cowboy Bebop. And then
Speaker 1: before before the podcast, Jeff comes on. He's like rubs
Speaker 1: his hands and he goes any pregnant ladies we got
Speaker 1: in this one. We're like, oh no, Jeff, that's not
Speaker 1: like that's not like, no, sorry, I think I think
Speaker 1: I think you've misunderstood. Uh what Cowboy Bebop is. It's
Speaker 1: not that's not like a common part of the ship.
Speaker 1: And then like, oh my godmer he just leans back
Speaker 1: to me, what are we doing here? Yeah my god?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what are we watching this for?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That was that was surprising to me.
Speaker 5: That was that was. It was weird. But there is
Speaker 5: an anime. I'm sure I can recommend you that will
Speaker 5: share if you need it.
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna I'm actually gonna say thanks, but no
Speaker 2: thanks on the on a recommendation about pregnant people, fly
Speaker 2: your freak flag, yes, but no, but thank you anyway,
Speaker 2: who we weren't talking about being pregnant that we're talking
Speaker 2: about the mission to rescue Griffith. Yeah, what do you mean,
Speaker 2: let's go being pregnant. Griffith is pregnant with emotion because
Speaker 2: he is trapped in this jail cell and doesn't know
Speaker 2: what to do, and he is approached by uh, okay,
Speaker 2: the little guys from Bloodborne. Basically yes, yeah, they just
Speaker 2: come up and they're.
Speaker 5: Like, oh, Master Griffith, it's so and.
Speaker 1: They kind of like this and then it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: so weird.
Speaker 5: It's from software Reference of the week. Can anyone guess
Speaker 5: what it is?
Speaker 3: Is it that those wrong?
Speaker 5: The helmet that Griffith is wearing in his imprisonment is
Speaker 5: also available as one of the starting classes in Eldon
Speaker 5: Ring if you.
Speaker 2: Get, oh, I that's that is actually one that I
Speaker 2: can actually see and draw the connection to.
Speaker 3: And enjoy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every other messenger from yeah, who the little guys,
Speaker 2: the little purple guys, Yeah, the right guys? Was that real?
Speaker 2: Did that really happen or did he just hallucinate that? Jeff, Oh,
Speaker 2: it really does not matter, but yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we then get a very strange shot of
Speaker 1: a infinite hallway of weird windows that Griffith can see into.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Mc eschery.
Speaker 1: Was actually a big inspiration for a lot of these
Speaker 1: scenes in the manga.
Speaker 5: Jeff, I've read that. Zach was an inspiration for Yes,
Speaker 5: I've also read that.
Speaker 1: And we get a we get the silhouettes of a
Speaker 1: couple of figures there look in the windows. Who knows
Speaker 1: what's happening?
Speaker 2: You but not me?
Speaker 3: You will soon.
Speaker 1: We didn't get a pretty fun scene in the graveyard,
Speaker 1: and this is like the rescue operation. It's Caska it's Guts,
Speaker 1: it's Pippin', it's Judo, and it is a them having
Speaker 1: formed a little cracked team here, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: fun because it's like it's Kaska becoming commander again and
Speaker 1: like ordering Guts, but also kind of acknowledging that there's
Speaker 1: shipped between them, and she's kind of like, I don't
Speaker 1: care what you feel about out me. We gotta do
Speaker 1: this right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then she's still just like I'll watch, I'll
Speaker 4: keep an eye on you, and then Judo is like,
Speaker 4: you know, even was.
Speaker 2: Like what are you guys?
Speaker 1: Fucking kind we kind of missed it in the last bit,
Speaker 1: But basically there is a bit where Judo is like,
Speaker 1: maybe you should go talk to Caska.
Speaker 3: Guts the ultimate wingman.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like bring your sword.
Speaker 1: Yep, little Judo there, little Irish Judo. There is another
Speaker 1: I'll try and find. There's a really lovely panel here
Speaker 1: as well, where Casket is like bumping up against Guts
Speaker 1: like kind of like shut the fuck up, and it's
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite drawings in the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, yeah, it's just it's it's really lovely.
Speaker 2: It's great. I love it. I love their little uh
Speaker 2: Sealed Team six operation.
Speaker 1: Here here you know, sorry the oh stae. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: worry about that door line just kidding me.
Speaker 3: I won't.
Speaker 2: I was like, that door has gotten no shot. She's like,
Speaker 2: but Jeff, it's four times the size of any regular door.
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, okay, you.
Speaker 5: Know else's got time size of the regular version of it.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's just it's it's crazy that Goods
Speaker 1: didn't hit it and go damn it. I was ready
Speaker 1: for a door that was three times the size before.
Speaker 2: Before the four is insane trade that Okay.
Speaker 1: I found this. I found this in the form of
Speaker 1: a the drawing alike in the form of a bookstopper.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's like very sweet.
Speaker 1: Yep, It's just it's cute and Goods is that real?
Speaker 1: Like oh, like you know, you ever see like a
Speaker 1: dog get attacked by a small cat and it's kind
Speaker 1: of just like, well, what the fuck? That's yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't ye. So anyway, they continue down the dungeon and
Speaker 1: in pretty pretty quick fashion they come across well no.
Speaker 1: The next scene is basically everyone being hopeful and being
Speaker 1: like this we're back at camp now with the band
Speaker 1: of Hawk and everyone's hopeful. Everyone's feeling good, and the
Speaker 1: little Pippin's like, finally some good news and he sets
Speaker 1: off to get some water. And man, guys, this whole
Speaker 1: scene leeps me the fuck out.
Speaker 3: It's the eerie silence of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like even just the appearance of the we'll
Speaker 1: call her a fairy, she I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like is she in the manga?
Speaker 1: Yes, she is?
Speaker 5: She is, Okay, I don't know if you get as
Speaker 5: good a look at her as I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't think you do. I think they.
Speaker 1: I think they got her muddle from so she is.
Speaker 1: She comes into it more later in the manga, but
Speaker 1: they But even man, the animation for her flying around,
Speaker 1: she really, I don't know how to describe it. She
Speaker 1: really looks like a weird, gross moth thing like just
Speaker 1: swoop and it's it's just very unsettling, like that's not
Speaker 1: how that's not how birds move. And you know, whenever
Speaker 1: you see people flying in manga, it's usually that, but
Speaker 1: now she really moves like an insect. And it's just
Speaker 1: even though like her design is like very ethereal and
Speaker 1: very beautiful, it's like it's it's really unsettling something. And
Speaker 1: then little Pippin he hears the fires from the camp
Speaker 1: and he comes back and it's just quiet, like there's
Speaker 1: there's nothing there.
Speaker 5: It Ricket.
Speaker 1: It's sorry, not Pippen h Rickert. Yeah, you know, you're
Speaker 1: totally right.
Speaker 2: I knew what you meant.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jeff, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: And his body is being devoured by a massive slug
Speaker 1: monster and everything about how this is framed and how
Speaker 1: it's revealed, because initially you just see you just see
Speaker 1: him floating in the air and it's like you can't like, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I think you said earlier that you thought it was
Speaker 1: like bandits had strung him up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he just got strung up and he's like.
Speaker 1: Run yep, and no it ain't bandits. It's like the
Speaker 1: most fucked up uh slug monster you have ever seen.
Speaker 5: Software reference of the Week. Oh yeah, these they see
Speaker 5: how the the slug monster looks like it has two faces. Yes,
Speaker 5: it's got a very big intimidating face and a very
Speaker 5: small actual face. That's the same kind of inspiration for
Speaker 5: the basilisks in all the Dark Cells games. They're like
Speaker 5: these frog creatures of giant smiles, but if you look
Speaker 5: really close, the giant eyes are just for intimidation. The
Speaker 5: ess actually got a really tiny little face in the
Speaker 5: middle of it.
Speaker 2: Oh weird. Okay, you see it's a bit of a stretch.
Speaker 5: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: Look at it well because I see right here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's got that same little small face design big eyes,
Speaker 5: whereas this has like big mouth and small face.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Oh wow, that's the manga you just posted here. Yep,
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would suggest tracking down the manga art for
Speaker 1: this bit. It is I mean, look, Kintaro Muro is
Speaker 1: a complete master at what he did, and there are
Speaker 1: just many ways that the anime is never going to
Speaker 1: be able to keep up with what he does, at
Speaker 1: least reasonably, you know, and this this is one of them.
Speaker 1: This is just an absolutely horrifying panel and the way
Speaker 1: it frames Ricker and everything it is, oh, it is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just just incredible. And like the lead up to this
Speaker 1: bit as well, because it's like a couple of panels
Speaker 1: of only seeing the guy upside down and then then
Speaker 1: like above him fades in the monster face and oh it's.
Speaker 2: That was cool. That was really cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we don't really know how a little
Speaker 1: ricker makes it out of this one.
Speaker 2: No, it does it even start to run? I guess
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 1: But we get a shot of the moth fairy girl
Speaker 1: and that is fucking weird. And then we see just
Speaker 1: more monsters than we have ever seen in Brazik. The
Speaker 1: camp is literally crawling with them, and fuck, they are
Speaker 1: all horrifying.
Speaker 5: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, it's just like circus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're crawling all over a big pile of dead bodies.
Speaker 1: And the dead bodies are all naked.
Speaker 2: I didn't notice that.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I'm here, Jeff.
Speaker 2: Why are they naked?
Speaker 1: Why are they naked?
Speaker 4: Ye?
Speaker 5: No? Comfortable?
Speaker 2: I guess they're easier to eat with no clothes. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, probably too much metal, i'd think, so, Okay.
Speaker 1: Notice back on a back in our little ocean Ocean's
Speaker 1: eleven operation, a tomb pushes open and the Princess's handmaids
Speaker 1: kind of meet meet our little group here, little rescue operation,
Speaker 1: and they take them to the Tower of the Torturer,
Speaker 1: where they basically have to go down to the bottom level.
Speaker 3: And then the sun never penetrates m.
Speaker 1: H deep and Griffith is also kind of having a
Speaker 1: weird vision slash slash hallucination here, and he uh, he
Speaker 1: is basically thinking about Guts and he's like, he feels
Speaker 1: like Guts is now the one who shines, and he
Speaker 1: feels like now he can feel that Guts is close,
Speaker 1: and he feels like Guts is going to rescue him
Speaker 1: and that now his life is in guts hands.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a little bit of resentment there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like he literally says, like there's all these
Speaker 1: conflicting emotions like indignation, resentment, love, friendship, and it's just
Speaker 1: pregnant with emotions.
Speaker 2: Everybody, Yeah, there it is yep, yep, quota hit.
Speaker 1: And and our group finds Griffith and this is one
Speaker 1: of like the most I think upsetting parts of Berserk.
Speaker 1: This is like, this is the moment where you realize, like, oh,
Speaker 1: whatever this story was, it's kind of done now, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think we're getting goods and Griffith
Speaker 1: being Mary Knights again, yea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or are probably not.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But when you look, you're you're the one driving, so
Speaker 2: you you're saying, are They're never going to be the
Speaker 2: same again or are that you know the answer? So
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta d M this and listen.
Speaker 1: Listen, Jeff, I'm putting on a show here. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: meant to chain the people.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting shotgun here and I want to make sure
Speaker 2: I get to my destination, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. So there's a couple of bits here that
Speaker 1: I just think HiT's so so hard, And one of
Speaker 1: them is when they take off Griffith's mask. You never
Speaker 1: really properly get a good look at what's underneath, but
Speaker 1: it's so whatever it is is horrible enough that they're like, no, casket,
Speaker 1: don't don't look at this.
Speaker 2: Yep hair Oh that was really upsetting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the bit that like kind of messes me up
Speaker 1: the most here is when Griffith kinda he wakes up
Speaker 1: a little bit. He sees Goots holding him, and he
Speaker 1: reaches the hand up and he puts it on his
Speaker 1: neck and it looks somewhere between a caress and a
Speaker 1: trying to strangle him. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like so weak, he's.
Speaker 7: Like yeah, yeah, he doesn't so he just says like yeah,
Speaker 7: and Goots doesn't even really notice this he's just you know,
Speaker 7: he can't even feel.
Speaker 1: Griffith is so weak goods can't feel his resentments. And
Speaker 1: I love some of the drawings of Griffith's face here,
Speaker 1: like it's just there's such turmoil.
Speaker 5: Yeah, totally vacant.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like he's feeling so much at once
Speaker 1: that it's all canceling it. It's it's great. And that's
Speaker 1: when our boy Torturer comes back. I don't think his
Speaker 1: name is actually Torture. I think Jeff's favorite character. Hey,
Speaker 1: his new favorite character. He will have a lot.
Speaker 2: Come on. Yeah, he's cool.
Speaker 1: I want to try and get a picture of him.
Speaker 3: From the actual, the actual.
Speaker 4: Yea, the actual manga version of him is so different
Speaker 4: to this okay, relatively normal looking dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I feel like someone looked at him from
Speaker 1: the manga and animator and it was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: drawing that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he's got a little little little sack of
Speaker 2: torture or tools.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's looking like you know.
Speaker 4: You know, are you guys familiar with big Ed from
Speaker 4: ninety Day Fiance? No, because that is that is the
Speaker 4: body shape, that is the neck to head, a big head.
Speaker 5: Oh sure, yeah, he also looks like Quasimoto Gus.
Speaker 2: Big Ed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, big Ed, I don't. I don't mean,
Speaker 4: like facially he looks like you. It's just the neck
Speaker 4: to shoulder thing, which is what I'm going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as someone who also does not have
Speaker 2: much of a neck, I can kind of see what's
Speaker 2: happening here, but I don't have Okay, mm, no one's
Speaker 2: ever said that about you, Lucy.
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone sent me like a really out of not
Speaker 4: out of pocket, but like someone's selling like a wild
Speaker 4: Blue Sky over the weekend.
Speaker 3: I was like, excuse me, please, I'm.
Speaker 4: Taking about your neck ticking drive bys on my neck's
Speaker 4: my weekend?
Speaker 1: What can you say? What it was, Lucy?
Speaker 4: Oh, it was just they were posting a screenshot of
Speaker 4: something Dan and Jeff and Michael playing, and then it
Speaker 4: was like this girl with a super long neck and
Speaker 4: they were like, damn, this girl's like a bunch on
Speaker 4: Lucy James games and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, wow, my neck is.
Speaker 2: I gotta look it up. I gotta look it up.
Speaker 1: So someone on Blue Sky recently it was like Wow,
Speaker 1: the new weird like AI filters that they do on
Speaker 1: YouTube thumbnails makes John's eyes look so like dead and lifeless,
Speaker 1: and to be like, no, those are actually.
Speaker 2: That's just my real life.
Speaker 1: That's that's just what I look like.
Speaker 2: You're saying, I looked dead, thank you.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's when we have the one of the
Speaker 1: most one sided anime battles of all time, Gots versus
Speaker 1: the Door. And one of my favorite details about this
Speaker 1: is how the torturer he's like, well, to see you later,
Speaker 1: and he like pulls down a little slat.
Speaker 2: He's like, the guards and knights will be here any minute.
Speaker 1: Good mind smash well, time to go, spend the evening
Speaker 1: with a good book. Time to go mobile.
Speaker 2: Who put that bottomless pit here?
Speaker 3: Who thought I would have ever fallen in my own
Speaker 3: bottomless pit?
Speaker 1: It's a cathartic ass kill.
Speaker 5: It's really because he's out like he all his limbs
Speaker 5: are extended, the furthest they can go, and he just
Speaker 5: shrieks on the way down.
Speaker 1: It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we needed one of these, Guts deserve one of these.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then a bunch of foot soldiers try and stop
Speaker 1: Guts and the card captain here there's the scene where
Speaker 1: he's Okay, this isn't the exact thing he says, but
Speaker 1: it's like he's like, well stop him, and then like,
Speaker 1: Guts just you know, just go through them all as
Speaker 1: Gouts does. And here's this line where he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on.
Speaker 3: Come on, everyone, please we train for this.
Speaker 5: Make me look bad.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. It's so awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know they're trying whatever they can. It's
Speaker 1: just a really fun scene of Guts swamping people off
Speaker 1: a bridge or off off a big spiral staircase into obligion. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we get another bunch of nights with just basically these
Speaker 1: are heavy assault nights. It feels like it feels like
Speaker 1: they put a character in this for like like twenty
Speaker 1: seconds and he's like, I bet this Guts guy isn't
Speaker 1: that tough.
Speaker 5: This guy's also got a really rough neck to shoulder
Speaker 5: ratio as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a there's yeah, there's a strange
Speaker 1: shot in here where every night surrounding this dude is
Speaker 1: of a very brown persuasion.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, they copy it and pasted one dude.
Speaker 1: Really really weird because then in every other shot they
Speaker 1: don't look like this. But the shot is nineteen minutes
Speaker 1: and eleven seconds in listener, if you would like to
Speaker 1: find it yourself, and then like literally one cut later,
Speaker 1: we just have a bunch of whitey looking knights. It's
Speaker 1: one of those things I will never It's like a
Speaker 1: mystery that no one will ever solve why it.
Speaker 5: Feels like it feels like a bad understanding of lighting
Speaker 5: in that moment because you're pretty far away. So yeah,
Speaker 5: so you're far away. But I think they're trying to
Speaker 5: show like how it's dark first of all, and the
Speaker 5: commander is like ahead of all the others. But I
Speaker 5: just don't think it's a very good shade of skin
Speaker 5: color to use.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a weird one. But
Speaker 1: so anyway, Guts molds through these men. Uh he gets
Speaker 1: a little tired at one point, and they're like, oh
Speaker 1: he's tired, thank god, and that it changes literally nothing.
Speaker 5: Also love how.
Speaker 4: He wave have to wave with their own men at him,
Speaker 4: and Guts is like okay.
Speaker 5: I also love how he kills the commander guy instantly,
Speaker 5: like as he before he's even finished his sentence. He's
Speaker 5: like killed him and moved on.
Speaker 1: Yep, the band of Hawk escape Pippen, Big Old Pippin
Speaker 1: is carrying Griffith on his back and they escape back
Speaker 1: into the tomb from whence they came, and we get
Speaker 1: another little scene where they kind of pause, they gather
Speaker 1: themselves and the Kaska wipes some of the blood off guts,
Speaker 1: and we see Griffith see that and get an all
Speaker 1: time fucking Griffith shot where that same like murderous eagle
Speaker 1: eye is stearing out the helmet at Kaska and guts
Speaker 1: and god damn it is chilling, piercing, piercing yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but reinforces what he was thinking about right, like
Speaker 5: he feels that cuts is now like shining. He's the
Speaker 5: main character. And if it wasn't clear enough, the woman
Speaker 5: who he knows is obsessing over him now is expressing
Speaker 5: that same kind of warmth towards someone else. He's probably like,
Speaker 5: Oh fuck, I am really.
Speaker 3: Washed, I really have lost everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna just drop it here because I don't
Speaker 1: know if we'll talk about it in next episode. But
Speaker 1: there is an entire battle and character cut out of
Speaker 1: the anime here. Many suspect because it's just too fucked
Speaker 1: up and weird. We're totally missing the character of wild.
Speaker 4: Oh god, oh yeah, yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wild is up until very recently he was only
Speaker 1: in the Mangave. I think he was added back into
Speaker 1: the anime version of the movie and Wild is a law.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably for the best that he got cut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was never my favorite part of the story
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 4: No, well, I think I think maybe within the context
Speaker 4: of what's gonna happen, we'll talk about him in the
Speaker 4: next episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just a gross karacter, not gonna search, don't
Speaker 2: not gonna do anything, spoils some stuff.
Speaker 1: And that is where we leave our adventurers. They have escaped,
Speaker 1: Griffith is rescued. Everything's going to be all right. Guys.
Speaker 2: This episode, these two were tremendous.
Speaker 1: Say that, Jeff, sounds like you're I would say like,
Speaker 1: I think in general you have enjoyed Berserk, maybe a
Speaker 1: little more than I thought you would, But it sounds
Speaker 1: like over the course of it it has very gradually
Speaker 1: dragged you in. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it did a lot of good work,
Speaker 2: very fairly quickly.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And you can't shake good storytelling just then, that's what
Speaker 2: this is here, really strong stuff. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I love its excellence. And with that close out another
Speaker 1: episode of Jeff, Jeff's bizarre Adventure.
Speaker 5: Let's go coming the next.
Speaker 2: Time, we're going to do the last three Yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next time we are doing the final three episodes
Speaker 1: of Berserk. So it will be episodes twenty three, twenty four,
Speaker 1: and twenty five, and.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a good time.
Speaker 1: It's it would be a good time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, please look forward to goodbye.
Speaker 1: Okay, at last, James Games, working people find you.
Speaker 3: Right there, at least a James Games Tomorrow's.
Speaker 1: Saying, working people find you tomorrow. Hege on everything, Jeff,
Speaker 1: where can the people find you?
Speaker 2: You can find me a giant bomb on blue sky
Speaker 2: wherever you like, come say hi that it'll be all yes.
Speaker 1: So you can find me pretty much anywhere if you
Speaker 1: google I patchool. I'm sure friends, we'll see you next time.