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<v Speaker 1>Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I get accused every now and then. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been old fashioned and stuck in my ways and I

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<v Speaker 2>try not to be. But every now and then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't but help remark on things go on with me?

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<v Speaker 3>Go on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how are you doing? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, welcome to the Tom and Jerry Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Jerry McBride. That's Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>O'manny.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I've seen today?

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<v Speaker 1>And I shouldn't have. I should it shouldn't have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Remarkable in today's day and age twenty twenty six, but

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<v Speaker 2>here we are. I saw a woman driving a bin lurie.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what now?

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<v Speaker 3>I there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I remember the first woman I ever saw driving

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<v Speaker 4>a truck.

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<v Speaker 3>We were laying concrete.

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<v Speaker 4>I was about thirteen years of age, and honestly it

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<v Speaker 4>was if a fucking alien was driving the truck, it

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<v Speaker 4>would would have been less of a surprise, less of

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<v Speaker 4>a price.

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<v Speaker 3>And she wasn't, remember, I can remember to this day.

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<v Speaker 4>She wasn't what you would associate with concrete truck drivers,

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<v Speaker 4>if you know what I mean. She didn't get out

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<v Speaker 4>with the sleeves cut off her shirt and fucking buzz

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<v Speaker 4>cut like she was, and fine looking woman got out

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<v Speaker 4>and she was like, all right, let's let's get this board.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she went, she went.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was do you know what I'm saying? More

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<v Speaker 4>and more of and it's gone very cool. Is a

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<v Speaker 4>huge influx of young women driver driving tractors.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, Oh I'm okay, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna pull the lady over and say what

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Ladies?

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<v Speaker 1>Weakness?

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<v Speaker 3>What's a lady like you doing in a lorry like this?

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<v Speaker 2>Do whatever you want? And it's delightful.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in a world like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can't help, but I just gotta tell you it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for a little split second, I was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>quite the choice. There a bin lorry and not just

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of lorry, Tom, the brown bin lorry.

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<v Speaker 3>That's already. Woman.

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<v Speaker 1>You're just driving around and stink from one end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day to the.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, and that gets into the into their skin and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>But do you know what it is? It's a well

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<v Speaker 4>pain job, is what it is. And you'd often find

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<v Speaker 4>even it's not that you're stuck in the mode out

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<v Speaker 4>ladder and looking at women would see a woman truck

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<v Speaker 4>driver and go huh, chrish, do you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>just an odd thing to speak like.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of.

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<v Speaker 4>Delivering stuff to a site one time and your man

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<v Speaker 4>had his six year old young fla on a digger

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<v Speaker 4>loads and stuff and load gifted and I remember going, what

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<v Speaker 4>the fuck? That's that's cool?

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<v Speaker 1>It just catches your eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean because if this is your first

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<v Speaker 2>time listening to the Tom and Jerry Show, we're probably

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<v Speaker 2>not making a great just two lads going like jesz,

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<v Speaker 2>you never see you never know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a woman? Do you know what?

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<v Speaker 4>It is?

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<v Speaker 3>Weird?

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<v Speaker 4>Late, it's interesting and weird, and it's long, long may continue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's traditional, traditionally a male centric profession, the bin

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<v Speaker 2>men of this world. But I would recuse collectors of

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<v Speaker 2>this world.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what there?

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<v Speaker 1>I said.

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<v Speaker 4>I've said this many times when it comes to sports.

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<v Speaker 4>So many sports are missing out when it comes to

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<v Speaker 4>the women's side of things or men they are missing

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<v Speaker 4>out getting men into women's side of things, like the

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<v Speaker 4>tennis is huge now for women, the UFC now is

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<v Speaker 4>huge now for women. Guinness drinking women. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 4>one thing. We need to more women block layers, but

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<v Speaker 4>we need more fellas doing primarily women's jobs. Do you

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<v Speaker 4>know more fella hairdressers? But what I mean is the

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<v Speaker 4>same fellow that could come out of a bin Lorry

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<v Speaker 4>go in and cut a woman's hair fair good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, just come in and go oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's the goal is wide open there any anybody

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<v Speaker 2>this world, you know if you just decide all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden that you know, I'm going to I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to bust through gender norms here and go go work

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<v Speaker 2>in the slaughter house or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know some people are cut out different ways,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it's a lot of time And said,

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<v Speaker 4>if that woman was raised around trucks, she's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Better truck driver than you or I would ever be.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that can away it's.

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<v Speaker 1>In you to say the four cars here, Tom.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wouldn't hold that against her either, like that

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<v Speaker 4>cars too bigin my As you speak about you know

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<v Speaker 4>a woman, I just just as.

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<v Speaker 3>We're about the press record, I heard a.

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<v Speaker 4>Screech from what I assumed I was with my wife,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was correct. I'm like, christ if I had

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with something now. She had just dozed off

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<v Speaker 4>on the couch after we're finally finishing the final room here,

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<v Speaker 4>final room in the house chairs nearly there, so she

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<v Speaker 4>she was bed from it, and one of the ghats decided,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to come all the way down and creepishly

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<v Speaker 4>breathe against the window of the to sit room and

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<v Speaker 4>just steer at the woman indoors, and that's what the

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<v Speaker 4>screech was.

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<v Speaker 3>So we leave. That's the way after.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like go to the best of the times.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I saw a goat eye look at me

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<v Speaker 2>through the window, I would definitely think that I was horst.

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<v Speaker 2>And holy shit, isn't that hell a segment? Isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>a hell of a segment? Into the segment of the

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<v Speaker 2>Tom and Jerry Show, The Weekly?

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<v Speaker 1>What have You?

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<v Speaker 3>The Green and Red May. I can hear it still.

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<v Speaker 4>It's I gotta tell you, Craggy Bogland, It's Tall Majesty

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<v Speaker 4>killed Goannger.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that song before.

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<v Speaker 4>How the fuck you saw doctors just twenty thirty years old? Shirt?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but who do you think was requesting that at

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<v Speaker 2>a night club in Monaghan?

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<v Speaker 1>Tom?

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<v Speaker 4>No, But at the same time, you never just put

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<v Speaker 4>on Spotify and just throw on some of the Irish hits,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, just let it, let it select,

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden the saw doctors fucking bail

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<v Speaker 4>and bail and hey.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have always had the saw Doctors down as

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<v Speaker 2>a goalwy band on that all En seventeen. I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea they branched out into other chnic.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>The west, the west west of our not clear, not Limerick,

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<v Speaker 4>not Kerry, Sligo, Mayo lead from risk Common.

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<v Speaker 3>They're kind of maybe the more common.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all they're all in it together, if you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean, A bit like now again each other.

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<v Speaker 4>They fucking hate each other right, but tis tis conductor

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<v Speaker 4>to hell, you know what I mean? That is their

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<v Speaker 4>area so like to be Galway people who were just

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<v Speaker 4>as happy. And I'm no doubt there's one or two

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<v Speaker 4>lads probably from Mayo or whatever front in the in

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<v Speaker 4>the band. Do you know, like bet we better say

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<v Speaker 4>what the week I have you is here now for

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<v Speaker 4>the three people. I don't know how you're listening to

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<v Speaker 4>the Tom and Jerry Show and not know how went

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<v Speaker 4>down on Sunday. Yeah, so as it happened yesterday, as

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<v Speaker 4>we're recording yesterday, history was made. History History's made every momentary,

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<v Speaker 4>but true history was made. Decibel levels were apparently recorded

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<v Speaker 4>at an all time record high when the whole of

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<v Speaker 4>Castle Bar, Westport, Belahedrine, Foxford, all them places had infiltrated

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<v Speaker 4>Crow Parks to field the Dreams to enter their eleventh

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<v Speaker 4>All Ireland Final in seventy five years against the men

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<v Speaker 4>of Kerry yesterday and against all belief, against all the

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<v Speaker 4>bookies odds, Mayo went on to win the All Ireland

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<v Speaker 4>Final in for Kayley Football yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>We everybody loves an underdog story and everybody loves a

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<v Speaker 2>story story. So even if you're not a sports fan,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have proved under this show that not many

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<v Speaker 2>times I watched this game yesterday, and I'll be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, I did want Mayo to win. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of friends from Mayo. Well, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I say friends know them to see Tom Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know I would wish them well and enough

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<v Speaker 2>is enough. But at the same time, if Kerry had

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<v Speaker 2>trends to them, I would have laughed at that too.

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<v Speaker 2>But as it happened, Mayo, as you say yourself, after

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<v Speaker 2>our seventy five year drought lifted the Sam Maguire Cup

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<v Speaker 2>and if that's not word of a segment on one

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<v Speaker 2>of Ireland's least listen to podcasts, Tom, I don't excuse yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Where we're in the top ten percent of some weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we are in the top ten percent. Now what

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<v Speaker 3>that what that qualification is? I don't know. Both.

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<v Speaker 4>We're in the top top ten percent of comedy podcasts

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<v Speaker 4>in Ireland on a regular basis.

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<v Speaker 3>So stick tack in your pipe and smoke.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of these are just jokes, buddy, Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>I know it is true, but I tell you there was.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't shed it here, but there was a shininess

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<v Speaker 4>in my eye. Have a lot of grawl from Mayo,

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<v Speaker 4>we Honeymoon and Mayo. I was almost in the Hardy books.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know a lot of friends?

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<v Speaker 1>You were the fifth Hardy book, like you were.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't think I was going to be a

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<v Speaker 4>hardy book, but it was. It fell around the time

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<v Speaker 4>of My My My Onlymoon.

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<v Speaker 3>We actually drove through.

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<v Speaker 4>Swinford, which is Castletown, yes in the show, and they

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<v Speaker 4>were filming it and I was going and attach such

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<v Speaker 4>could do you want to do? You want to pull over?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I'd been best I can't really do you want

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<v Speaker 4>to pull over and see said, we'll be here all

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<v Speaker 4>day if.

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<v Speaker 3>I am in it. I don't mind him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you say that now, But you know that a

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<v Speaker 4>wise man drives on, drives on to the destination. They're

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<v Speaker 4>a wise man drives on. I think that's why your

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<v Speaker 4>marriage is lested less than this long, because I had Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been different.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of the wildest gigs have ever done, some stories,

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<v Speaker 4>legendary stories out of gigs have ever So I have

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<v Speaker 4>a grow for the place I once bought an envelop

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<v Speaker 4>a woman with a beard in Foxford.

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<v Speaker 3>As you do. And these these are these.

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<v Speaker 4>Are just things that And that's not to say I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I don't like Erry. I don't have friends from Kerry,

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<v Speaker 4>but they had on this occasion. They've had enough, They've

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<v Speaker 4>had enough for fox They're always there thereabouts. But no,

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<v Speaker 4>Mayo went on two shall we said, you're as everybody's saying,

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<v Speaker 4>break the course, break the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>Break the break the break the usual, that they had

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<v Speaker 2>been under it for the past seventy five years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you know, we're not a very sporting podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but we wish Mayo all the best in their future. Endeavors,

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<v Speaker 2>famous sporting droughts from around the world. The the Chicago Cubs,

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<v Speaker 4>To say to one hundred and eight years in two

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<v Speaker 4>twenty sixteen, and it was on the same weekend that

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<v Speaker 4>event that ever happened happened. Ireland played the All Blacks

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<v Speaker 4>this New Zeas and All Blacks and rugby in Soldier

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<v Speaker 4>Field in Chicago. The place was already bonkers that weekend

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<v Speaker 4>because the Cubs, the first time in one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>eight years a won the World Series. They call it

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<v Speaker 4>the World Series year, but nobody else gets to play

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you see teams from Germany in there, so you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But even even recently, Tom, we had the New Year

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<v Speaker 2>or Convix I believe, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Time in a long long time they did. They did.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they did basketball right, the basketball in basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's nice to see.

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<v Speaker 4>It's nice to see a people like this, As they say,

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<v Speaker 4>it's good for sport.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good for everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great story and if it's good for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I chatting with her own Colugan of the Hardy

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<v Speaker 4>Books yesterday, congratulated because I don't even know what to say.

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<v Speaker 4>It's party if us standing here all just staring at

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<v Speaker 4>each other, not even shouting, crying. This was an hour

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<v Speaker 4>after the match, just standing there looking at you other,

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<v Speaker 4>crying for you know, entire lives have been gone and

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<v Speaker 3>All you ever seeing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Seventy five years like it's seven if you were seventy

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<v Speaker 4>four years when you croaked, which is that You know

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<v Speaker 4>it's an all right innings. It's not a great one,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not you have never seen as a male person,

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<v Speaker 4>you won't have seen this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know this this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Like there's very few people who saw the first one

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<v Speaker 4>or the last one. I said, they won three up

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<v Speaker 4>until then, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Their last one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a look at it, because this is what

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<v Speaker 1>did get their interested.

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<v Speaker 2>If you if you've listened to the Tom and Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>Show at all, you know that whereas we don't really

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<v Speaker 5>We fucking love pishugs, we love love horses hexes and

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<v Speaker 5>that invokes the rat of the we folk ing it

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<v Speaker 5>all and.

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<v Speaker 2>There are stories about the male course and how the

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<v Speaker 2>team have come to go seventy five years without an.

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<v Speaker 1>All Ireland win.

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<v Speaker 2>And these stories are cute and add to the storytelling

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<v Speaker 2>of it all. Tom, but we're gonna pull at them

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit here and maybe we might think maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they are just that. I mean, look at it.

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<v Speaker 4>It stacks up as a great story. So to give

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<v Speaker 4>people the insight in case you were going what, I

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<v Speaker 4>never what, or you're going no, I'm with it, and

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<v Speaker 4>you have some which way the way the way it's

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<v Speaker 4>the way it's told and how it transpired. And I

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<v Speaker 4>previously mentioned Foxford captain something brother of the Argentinian. He

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<v Speaker 4>was a happen and he what's he? It's a great village.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got a little museum. I forget his name. A

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<v Speaker 4>man from Foxford went on to be I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he admiral of like the Argentinian Navy or something

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<v Speaker 4>brilliant like that. Anyway, another story for another time. But

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<v Speaker 4>this incident happened in nineteen fifty one after Mayo had

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<v Speaker 4>beaten mead In to win the Samaguara Cup. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is their third time ever win it, so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they weren't peppered with fucking all urns either at the time,

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<v Speaker 4>so no, it was a great affair.

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<v Speaker 3>So they made it back.

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<v Speaker 4>Like all crowds do on a big, boisterous bus. Now

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<v Speaker 4>the argument is worthy in the bus were they in

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<v Speaker 4>an open.

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<v Speaker 1>Top within the back of a trail.

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<v Speaker 3>Or a lorry like you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>But they passed the funeral procession in the village of Oxford,

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<v Speaker 4>and essentially they were you know, your respect would be

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<v Speaker 4>take off your caps, because they probably all had flap

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<v Speaker 4>caps back then. You know, turn down the fucking music,

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<v Speaker 4>cap out your pipe, you know, pause, spotify whatever it

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<v Speaker 4>is that they're doing, you know what I mean, Taylor

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<v Speaker 4>Swift doesn't need to be blaring through Oxford at anytime,

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<v Speaker 4>let alone join in the funeral there.

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<v Speaker 3>They did none of those things. They did nothing. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't quieten down.

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<v Speaker 4>They were probably drinking all the way from you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Dublin to the west of Ireland, which probably took about

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<v Speaker 4>fucking seven hours back there, and by all accounts, an

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<v Speaker 4>outraged priest reportedly JESU this fell had some if it

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<v Speaker 4>he's something not only badness in him, but it's some

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<v Speaker 4>imagination to say, I will, you'll, I put the hecks

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<v Speaker 4>on you so that you'll never win an All Ireland,

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<v Speaker 4>Mayo will never win and I Roland while every one

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<v Speaker 4>of those players are alive. Now that's a I don't yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's some don't you put that hit on me, Ricky Bobby? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so it is, I mean, and like that. They had

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<v Speaker 4>since then up until now, jer did eleven defeats. No.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirteen finals technic eleven finals, we'll say, but they had

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<v Speaker 4>two replays, so they thirteen matches.

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<v Speaker 2>Lost it every year since since then technically speaking, but yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, eleven finals and with two replays, least thirteen final

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<v Speaker 4>matches they lost or didn't win unless they did would

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<v Speaker 4>have drawn two of them. And they suffered a freak

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<v Speaker 4>in the twenty sixteen final that was the year of

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<v Speaker 4>the All Blacks and all that, where they end up

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<v Speaker 4>scoring two own goals, own goals, I'm shooting off voter

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<v Speaker 4>feet with the fucking shotgun. That was against Dublin and

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<v Speaker 4>then the last lad Paddy Prendergast and Doctor Mick was

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<v Speaker 4>one of the last, but he was one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most outspoken and talked an awful lot about it. He

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<v Speaker 4>died in twenty twenty one, and then the final surviving

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<v Speaker 4>squad member died in twenty twenty. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 4>last year, but it was twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>It says year.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I thought it was last year, which again Elong

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<v Speaker 4>getting this story there doctor Mick Loft as he passed away.

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<v Speaker 4>So that left it with absolutely coming into twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 4>six final, they were left with no surviving members of

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<v Speaker 4>that score left left unplanet Earth and I don't know right.

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<v Speaker 4>So sometimes like sport, when you get to the finals

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<v Speaker 4>of things, what you're normally left normally left with are

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<v Speaker 4>the two best fittest teams in it, the two mentally

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<v Speaker 4>toughest teams in it. Yes, and for a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>teams like Mayo's, like Watford, shall we say, like Galway

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<v Speaker 4>and you know in the other you know in in

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<v Speaker 4>the Hurlan, their final had been the semi final if

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<v Speaker 4>you get me, and they're already fucking bet before they

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<v Speaker 4>get there, even though they have the physical prowess, they

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<v Speaker 4>have the ability to get there, but you want But

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<v Speaker 4>what you normally find is two teams who get there.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot kill Kenny's Limericks Tipperaries.

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<v Speaker 3>They have self.

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<v Speaker 4>Belief and this is unbelievable thing. The mental game is

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<v Speaker 4>an unbelievable thing. So I wonder, do you know because

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<v Speaker 4>they've been there eleven times and like that in twenty

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen scored two fucking on goals, Like you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's a team that don't believe. They did

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<v Speaker 4>not believe they were supposed to win or be there.

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<v Speaker 4>But that team, Yes, today, after watching that match, they

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<v Speaker 4>were down for me with the one five to one point.

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<v Speaker 6>At one stage, I was watching it, watching it on

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<v Speaker 6>the on the live blog on the phone and because

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<v Speaker 6>there's out walking the dog and I looked at ten

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<v Speaker 6>minutes in, I was like, lads, I thought you were

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<v Speaker 6>going to make a game out of this.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they had the mental fortitude, as they're say in wrestling,

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<v Speaker 4>to have the to hold in there, stem the flow

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<v Speaker 4>and then turn the tide and end up winning the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wonder, right, there's times I'm not totally getting

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<v Speaker 4>off the fence on this story, but do you think

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<v Speaker 4>that the hohodo is gone even if they believed or

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<v Speaker 4>didn't believe that, Well, the hoodoo is gone now, so

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<v Speaker 4>let's go all in now. It does help that you've

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<v Speaker 4>a new coach, you know what I mean. It does

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<v Speaker 4>help that you've got a batch of players who haven't

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<v Speaker 4>been tainted by the fucking.

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<v Speaker 3>The failures in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>They think they you know, they don't have that thank

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<v Speaker 4>And there was one guy there now he wasn't playing.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the name, o'shee.

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<v Speaker 4>He's even he's a carry name, but he's not. He's

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<v Speaker 4>he's been there a million times and never never done it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he was out.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't in the game yesterday. But I wonder what

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<v Speaker 4>is it was the who'd have gone on?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that what I'm hearing from you, Tom, is if

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<v Speaker 2>you believe you're cursed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if you believe your curse, your course, because

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<v Speaker 4>some teams are course. Cork last year in the All

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<v Speaker 4>Arn Final they were up by about six thirteen fucking

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<v Speaker 4>points at halftime and in their head they were on

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<v Speaker 4>the bus with the trophy all the way walking down

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<v Speaker 4>fucking Grand Parade and Cork they forgot that there was

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<v Speaker 4>a second fucking half in the match.

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<v Speaker 3>Tipperary didn't tipper delighted to be there.

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<v Speaker 4>When do you know what, We're actually still in this

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<v Speaker 4>game and we're kind of shy all year.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, you know what I want before this

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<v Speaker 2>day's outres I just want to get on the scoreboard.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and they fucking ended up beating by about thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>fucking points because Cork ended up being so full of themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're on the bus and gone home and mentally

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<v Speaker 4>so now the mental.

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<v Speaker 2>Time I want to talk to about I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to about this course because then we haven't We

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to absolutely pass on Mayo's parade.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's a fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Degree of fucking waffle going on here.

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<v Speaker 4>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is true because.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think even even Jorn I can't remember, but

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<v Speaker 4>I watched it, yes, and I've seen a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>clips of it back. But I don't even think Joran

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<v Speaker 4>Jack Coyne, who is the coat or the captain is

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he mentioned it, do you know what

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<v Speaker 4>I mean? He gave this a very heartfelt standard speech

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<v Speaker 4>and you're kind of going the captain even didn't even

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<v Speaker 4>mention this seventy five.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what course here?

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<v Speaker 7>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? What I for all the rest of them because

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<v Speaker 4>you you have to be cut throat. These guys are gone.

430
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<v Speaker 4>You can all suck on the course that fucking last losers.

431
00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:47.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm the fucking winning captain. I will never buy another

432
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<v Speaker 4>drink in his fucking county.

433
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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting a job as a sales rep for red

434
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<v Speaker 2>Mills in the morning.

435
00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:54.279
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent.

436
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<v Speaker 2>So here's the crack, though, the talk that the course

437
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<v Speaker 2>was handed down by a priest doesn't really hold water. Now,

438
00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:08.519
<v Speaker 2>a Catholic priest would not be one for issuing what

439
00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.519
<v Speaker 2>it is for all intents and purposes of tom pagan.

440
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<v Speaker 4>Course, pagan carry on, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

441
00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Pagan carrying on, and and and and I.

442
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<v Speaker 2>Can't see a priest came And I tell Dina, not

443
00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.720
<v Speaker 2>one of you will ever see the winning of all

444
00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Ireland again on account of what is you know, certainly

445
00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:29.559
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of ignorance, but like.

446
00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:33.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's one funeral lads.

447
00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.720
<v Speaker 3>And also, I can promise you at the time one thing.

448
00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:39.079
<v Speaker 3>Two things went hand in hand.

449
00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, I was the Catholic Church and the GA went

450
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<v Speaker 4>hand in hand.

451
00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:46.799
<v Speaker 2>And if there was anything that the Catholic Church was

452
00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.440
<v Speaker 2>gonna let slide, it's the mishaps of the GA.

453
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<v Speaker 4>Well, here's the thing previously talked about. Prender Guest, Mister Prendergast,

454
00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:57.720
<v Speaker 4>Paddy Prendegast. He was all over every sort of podcast

455
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<v Speaker 4>and everything open right up till his dying day, and

456
00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:02.079
<v Speaker 4>he couldn't recall it. He said, to be honest, I

457
00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:04.359
<v Speaker 4>was down to deep in the truck, if you know

458
00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:06.079
<v Speaker 4>what I mean to decide, we're hiding high on it.

459
00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:08.400
<v Speaker 4>So I didn't really come across such thing. And it

460
00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:11.039
<v Speaker 4>was never mentioned afterwards. And I mean that could be

461
00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:14.440
<v Speaker 4>from one man. But here's where it gets interesting. A

462
00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.960
<v Speaker 4>father Quinn was played in that game for male and

463
00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.920
<v Speaker 4>a priest himself, back when priests were playing football. He

464
00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:26.000
<v Speaker 4>played in that match and he completely poo poo, he went,

465
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<v Speaker 4>not a bit of.

466
00:21:27.440 --> 00:21:30.119
<v Speaker 1>It, not a bit of it.

467
00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Nice.

468
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<v Speaker 4>Well, it certainly didn't come back through any fellow I knew,

469
00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:36.039
<v Speaker 4>and I would have known the priest that was if

470
00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:38.519
<v Speaker 4>if in fact there even was a funeral that dager,

471
00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:39.079
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean.

472
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<v Speaker 2>But you know, like that'd be the kind of thing

473
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:44.279
<v Speaker 2>that with records and one thing another, you could probably

474
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<v Speaker 2>look that up fairly handy if you were so inclined.

475
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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

476
00:21:47.400 --> 00:21:49.480
<v Speaker 2>There is talk that this whole mention, of of course,

477
00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:53.559
<v Speaker 2>only started to grow legs in the early two thousands. Yeah,

478
00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's when not for nothing as well, our old

479
00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.440
<v Speaker 2>friend the Internet gets into into play and people can

480
00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:01.119
<v Speaker 2>chat and and Chinese wisper can spread an awful lot

481
00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:04.119
<v Speaker 2>quicker when you've got the fucking horror box in front

482
00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:07.279
<v Speaker 2>of you, rather than just local stories for local people.

483
00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:09.759
<v Speaker 2>But I dare say, some little rumor or some little

484
00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Scotch escaped containment. I became.

485
00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:16.759
<v Speaker 1>The whole thing.

486
00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:21.319
<v Speaker 4>What it is bounced around that it was the widow,

487
00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:23.759
<v Speaker 4>which you could kind of, you know, if you're thinking

488
00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:27.880
<v Speaker 4>about this in terms of a good story, the widow

489
00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.039
<v Speaker 4>with the black lace around her face, and you know,

490
00:22:31.119 --> 00:22:33.279
<v Speaker 4>and all the rest. But then I'm thinking, geezuz. I mean,

491
00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:36.559
<v Speaker 4>they're die hard football fans. I'd say even she would

492
00:22:36.559 --> 00:22:37.480
<v Speaker 4>have been happy enough with the win.

493
00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:40.440
<v Speaker 2>If her husband is a Mayo man and he's in

494
00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:42.839
<v Speaker 2>a coffin, then you know he's only sorry that he

495
00:22:42.920 --> 00:22:44.279
<v Speaker 2>died before they've seen the game.

496
00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:47.960
<v Speaker 4>And then for maybe people like you and me asking

497
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:49.839
<v Speaker 4>that question, going yeah, I don't know. If she's a

498
00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:51.680
<v Speaker 4>Mayle woman of Fox for women, she probably delighted. The

499
00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.720
<v Speaker 4>husband would have been delighted. Then the story grew legs

500
00:22:55.720 --> 00:22:58.359
<v Speaker 4>and they were told then that always a traveling woman

501
00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:01.000
<v Speaker 4>and traveling women would have been of they would add

502
00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:02.079
<v Speaker 4>a hexy vibe about.

503
00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:02.400
<v Speaker 8>Him back then.

504
00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:07.359
<v Speaker 4>Aout them yeah yeah, yeah so and it there. It

505
00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.720
<v Speaker 4>bounced back and forth in between this mystical priest. There

506
00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:12.960
<v Speaker 4>was never a name on the priest. There was never

507
00:23:13.119 --> 00:23:20.359
<v Speaker 4>a the like the wording was very, very harsh, yes,

508
00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:23.519
<v Speaker 4>very harsh, all of you have to die before Mayo

509
00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:30.000
<v Speaker 4>will see another Ireland gen like I wonder too sometimes

510
00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:31.960
<v Speaker 4>when it comes to these things there and this is

511
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:36.400
<v Speaker 4>probably past me getting off the defense. Is there a

512
00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.000
<v Speaker 4>bit of fucking crutched on under a situation too, like

513
00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:41.440
<v Speaker 4>we're going why don't you fucking won anything in fucking

514
00:23:42.440 --> 00:23:43.480
<v Speaker 4>sixty years?

515
00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:44.079
<v Speaker 5>Yes?

516
00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.559
<v Speaker 3>Would you believe it on the day the last time?

517
00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Like I wonder if you went around the world, or

518
00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:54.519
<v Speaker 4>if you went around like counties, would you find parish

519
00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:57.880
<v Speaker 4>teams that miraculously happened a similar thing like well this

520
00:23:57.920 --> 00:23:59.880
<v Speaker 4>is a two times like apparently a priest to put

521
00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:04.440
<v Speaker 4>a hecks on. They'd be first cousins my father, and

522
00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:07.880
<v Speaker 4>they would they were a funeral something to do with

523
00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.000
<v Speaker 4>the funeral going up the wrong way when you can't

524
00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:11.839
<v Speaker 4>come up this way and the hecks are putting them

525
00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:14.599
<v Speaker 4>and nothing give of it. I don't know if any

526
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:16.319
<v Speaker 4>Hicks was put on him at the time that would

527
00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.240
<v Speaker 4>definitely have fallen out. Did happen, but that was about

528
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:19.039
<v Speaker 4>the extent of it.

529
00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:21.400
<v Speaker 2>But this might be like the hecks that was put

530
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:23.079
<v Speaker 2>on me that said I would never see six foor

531
00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:25.400
<v Speaker 2>tall Tom. You know, yeah, I'm sure I fucking ran

532
00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:27.160
<v Speaker 2>a foul of somebody, somebody witchy.

533
00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think, yeah, he put on me I wanted

534
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.400
<v Speaker 4>to play corner over the Tipperary or that also never transpired.

535
00:24:34.039 --> 00:24:36.079
<v Speaker 4>I know what which I must have upset back in

536
00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:36.559
<v Speaker 4>the day.

537
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Would have nothing to do with their scalear talent.

538
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Would have to be no, no, no, no, have to be.

539
00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Course was the reason why the Tom and Jerry Show

540
00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:46.359
<v Speaker 2>hasn't cracked the top five percent podcasts in Ireland.

541
00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:50.599
<v Speaker 4>Hex hex anybody wants, anybody wants to know about it,

542
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.000
<v Speaker 4>go back and find the p Shokes episode. And we

543
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 4>probably maybe treaded too closely to the to the Nether

544
00:24:56.559 --> 00:25:00.039
<v Speaker 4>World Secrets. I do think I think it was a

545
00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:02.799
<v Speaker 4>bit of a crutch that was invented for the reason

546
00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:05.119
<v Speaker 4>for failure and maybe could have been down to the

547
00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:05.720
<v Speaker 4>fact that.

548
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 3>They didn't have the mental fortitude.

549
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 4>They probably didn't have the training programs that Dublin Kerry

550
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:17.119
<v Speaker 4>to some of the northern teams Corks, you know, the

551
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:20.759
<v Speaker 4>good football teams who actually had a training program that

552
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.279
<v Speaker 4>they put in place, and they didn't just swan around

553
00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:25.559
<v Speaker 4>the place fucking feeling sorry for themselves that they couldn't

554
00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:27.680
<v Speaker 4>pull the trigger and get rid of the bridesmaids.

555
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Stress.

556
00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:33.559
<v Speaker 1>Let me let me yeah, I know that's hard. Let

557
00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 1>me ask you one.

558
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Here, Tom now before we will jump off and we

559
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 2>let that we let you know. This episode drops on Thursday,

560
00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Mayo is absolutely still going to be in the pub

561
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.640
<v Speaker 2>by then. So we have a couple of drinks. What

562
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:47.680
<v Speaker 2>do you think now of the male people you know,

563
00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 2>and I know a couple as well, and I know

564
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a couple of the same male people.

565
00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.279
<v Speaker 1>Now that they've actually won the All Ireland, what do

566
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you think they're going to fucking winge about now?

567
00:25:56.440 --> 00:26:00.759
<v Speaker 4>Now they wonder why they don't have any success in Hurland. Yeah,

568
00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:03.640
<v Speaker 4>because you don't have a single fucking.

569
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Holder in your whole county.

570
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.319
<v Speaker 4>Alright, I'm sorry, let's but you would if you look

571
00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:09.960
<v Speaker 4>for the on switch on a fucking early but I

572
00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 4>would say that is the next thing, if they're going

573
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 4>to find a crutch for anything, don't make it another

574
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:19.319
<v Speaker 4>seventy five year fucking course, lets because nobody's fucking buying

575
00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.400
<v Speaker 4>that one. Next Yeah, I would say we were probably

576
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:23.880
<v Speaker 4>all Mandela affected into it.

577
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 3>After a while we were gone, yeah.

578
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's that classic seventy five year old.

579
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Seventy five year old.

580
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Of course, course your generations.

581
00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:35.160
<v Speaker 4>Now came up in the nineties, and like so many things,

582
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 4>if you don't actually ask a couple of questions, it's

583
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.039
<v Speaker 4>much easier and much more fun to go along with it.

584
00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, because what it did, jar was it told

585
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.559
<v Speaker 4>a story brilliantly and it culminated yesterday. Like I said,

586
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 4>desperbel levels went above anything that was ever recorded and

587
00:26:50.559 --> 00:26:53.160
<v Speaker 4>Growk Park for a match before that, there was grown

588
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:57.920
<v Speaker 4>men roaring, crying on their hands, blessing themselves. It was like,

589
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:01.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, it was like a one of those superchurches.

590
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, there was people fucking with hands.

591
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 4>It was like the fucking one of your man olds

592
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 4>and Joe Olson just happing people on the head, just

593
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.839
<v Speaker 4>gone feel the power of Jesus. You know. There was

594
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 4>lads and look, I mean I love it. I love

595
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.279
<v Speaker 4>it when they like to. If you could have measured

596
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.319
<v Speaker 4>the good vibes in there yesterday, I'd say it would

597
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:23.359
<v Speaker 4>have healed the lame. What they cured the sick? What

598
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 4>the fucking raising up the fucking date?

599
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:26.599
<v Speaker 3>You know it was.

600
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 4>There was those kind of vibes and there's nothing like it.

601
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 4>There's children fucking happy, there was out people happy. Everybody

602
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.839
<v Speaker 4>was happy, and I was so happy for them. And

603
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 4>then when the saw Doctors, which you know, a leats

604
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't do any harm to get a Mayo band to

605
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Speaker 4>fucking sing something. But anyway, when the Saw Doctors sang

606
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:47.680
<v Speaker 4>blast blasted out beautiful song about the lovely Mayo, you

607
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:52.039
<v Speaker 4>couldn't help but go, this could be a fucking movie.

608
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 4>This is always I mean, it's got a Hallmark movie

609
00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:56.880
<v Speaker 4>or Disney. It's got a mighty Ducks vibe to it.

610
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:58.200
<v Speaker 2>It's got a mighty Ducks vibe to it.

611
00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now without no one going through and the players

612
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 4>or anything anything like that, because we don't need educator

613
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 4>selves too much on it. Because I'll be honest with

614
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 4>you there the way, I always like playing Gaelic football

615
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:09.279
<v Speaker 4>because I wasn't taste enough to play a hurler and

616
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 4>to be Horland up until once I got past the

617
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.680
<v Speaker 4>age twelve intemporary if you can't, if you can't, I

618
00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.079
<v Speaker 4>probably would have started for most fucking shut with the

619
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 4>Wolves for that. Yeah I could have started a couple

620
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:23.240
<v Speaker 4>of Shy county teams. But in tip if you can't

621
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 4>hurl herrle by the age as well, yeah you're you're

622
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 4>at not like so football. And that's literally how it's

623
00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 4>looked at Like if there was if there was a

624
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.759
<v Speaker 4>lad on that Mayo team yesterday but he had Hourland

625
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 4>training for his county or for his parish in Tipperary,

626
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 4>they'd be totally leave off to command to fucking play

627
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:39.519
<v Speaker 4>and train.

628
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 3>That's the way it's looked at so. But we I

629
00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 3>would love to look at it as a as a movie.

630
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Who who would be?

631
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Who would be are?

632
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 4>Because really the hero of all this isn't so much

633
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.559
<v Speaker 4>the coaches. It's it's or isn't so much of the players.

634
00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:59.079
<v Speaker 4>It's the coach, Andy Moore, former player who came back

635
00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 4>after being never getting so close and he you know,

636
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 4>did a bit with you know, I think lead from

637
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:08.799
<v Speaker 4>in a couple of other clubs and Monahan actually his

638
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:10.680
<v Speaker 4>backroom staff from Monahan as well, there you.

639
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.319
<v Speaker 3>Go, and then he comes back. Who who's going to

640
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 3>play the coach?

641
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 4>Do you know?

642
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:18.279
<v Speaker 1>It depends on the Benson when you get him.

643
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:20.440
<v Speaker 2>But you'd imagine that it's Chris so downs to lose there,

644
00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>don't you.

645
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 4>I suppose, I suppose, But I mean if if if

646
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:26.240
<v Speaker 4>we want to if we want to stay local.

647
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I don't care.

648
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:29.799
<v Speaker 4>Let's m let's assume we can put a good Irish

649
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 4>accent in all of them, which is fucking hard done

650
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 4>by that, but with the fucking Irish boies.

651
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Can't do that?

652
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Noh okay, ex player comes back to lead everybody to

653
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>sex success in our around the age appropriate. Now we'll

654
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:46.079
<v Speaker 2>give him early forties, early forties. Okay, Well, it's not

655
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:48.119
<v Speaker 2>going to be Antonio Banderas that.

656
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:53.599
<v Speaker 1>No, they're really good.

657
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>They're going to come at me here now they're going

658
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 2>to say that McBride came into the podcast giving out

659
00:29:57.559 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>about women driving Bin Louri's. Now he says, Antonio Bandeir

660
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:01.240
<v Speaker 2>can't play a male man.

661
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.440
<v Speaker 4>Just's no respect for anybody this guy.

662
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but but but but someone of the someone

663
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:13.359
<v Speaker 2>of the Tom Cruise stature. I guess cruises a male

664
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be take his take his far and away

665
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:17.559
<v Speaker 2>accent out of.

666
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>The wardrobe and get that out again like that.

667
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

668
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:22.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was gonna make it either Vince Vaughn or

669
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:24.559
<v Speaker 4>Woody Harrison, you know what I mean, because they.

670
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, even though I think they're a little bit

671
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.079
<v Speaker 2>old for it now, even a little bit of movie magic.

672
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, four year old man.

673
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, movie magic.

674
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

675
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.839
<v Speaker 3>So I so for for.

676
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 4>Captain Jack Jack Coyne yesterday, who were going to have

677
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 4>who's going to be He's got to be fresh enough looking,

678
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 4>can be athletic. That's that's that's that's that's young Paul

679
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:47.880
<v Speaker 4>Meskals to lose their I think so, yeah, I think

680
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 4>it is.

681
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>He can't do that, I know, I think.

682
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so we have to have a villain on the

683
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:58.359
<v Speaker 4>other side to two villains, the captain of the I

684
00:30:58.359 --> 00:30:59.960
<v Speaker 4>don't know that one of the Cliffer brothers or who.

685
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what you want if you want a villain,

686
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 2>you want the priest to be a villain in a flashback. Yeah,

687
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>you want to have the priest and have the priest

688
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:09.599
<v Speaker 2>be like al Pacino.

689
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 9>Brilliant and your great ass to never win the Oldland,

690
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:19.759
<v Speaker 9>your fucking assholes.

691
00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Okay, brilliant, brilliant, And we're gonna have a bit of

692
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:33.640
<v Speaker 4>a jerk, so okay, and not so much a villain,

693
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 4>but a jerk captain Kerry who plays a good jerk.

694
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 3>I think we could have Danny McBride.

695
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm gonna do? You know? You know?

696
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to tell you now the fourth person

697
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 2>that springs to mind, and it's a lady.

698
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm gonna tell you we can, we can,

699
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 1>we can, we can. We're gonna suspend.

700
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.279
<v Speaker 2>This is Hollywood, we can do whatever we want.

701
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 4>Right.

702
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing.

703
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:59.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you know an actress called Carra de Lavigne should

704
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>be sort of a model little slash actress, and she's

705
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:02.680
<v Speaker 2>been in a couple of bits and pieces you know

706
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 2>where to see a very familiar name, right.

707
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:06.759
<v Speaker 4>I know.

708
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 2>She was in Suicide Squad, is what I know from, Okay,

709
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>and she's been in a few other bits and pieces.

710
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>But the reason why she springs to mind is her

711
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 2>grandfather was one of the chief officers of the.

712
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>Black and Tans.

713
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 1>In real life.

714
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 2>She's ahead, you know, so she's like fully descending from

715
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:26.599
<v Speaker 2>the Black and Tans. And if you're gonna send anybody

716
00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>out as a villain in an Irish movie. I'm gonna

717
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>say either Claren DeLavigne or if she has a brother

718
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.319
<v Speaker 2>that can act at all, get him out there as

719
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the Kerry captain. Yeah, alright, Paddy, alright, you my own

720
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.240
<v Speaker 2>fox who if you wants to give Irish football.

721
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:46.799
<v Speaker 4>It was a you're gonna have.

722
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:49.359
<v Speaker 2>It's only because I don't know if Cromwell is any

723
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>fucking descending.

724
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 4>We get, we get, we get Alan Ford otherwise known

725
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:57.279
<v Speaker 4>as bricked up to play.

726
00:32:58.680 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 3>See what you want to do?

727
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 4>It's out of time speech about how to bury a

728
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 4>dead body will find yourself.

729
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 3>With some peaks.

730
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 4>They'll go through bound like butter, like a piece head

731
00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.640
<v Speaker 4>does to carry whatever is.

732
00:33:14.359 --> 00:33:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I love it.

733
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:16.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

734
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I think we were making up over there.

735
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 4>The Green and that's it, The Green and Max Christopher

736
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:26.160
<v Speaker 4>Nolan does the whole thing up clothes, builds a whole

737
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 4>croak park without ever use the real c g Yeah nothing,

738
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:30.880
<v Speaker 4>you know nothing.

739
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I need a real body to run off the road.

740
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Well commre congratulations two mao. Uh, don't go mad lads

741
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>and go for if you don't win it next year again.

742
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:48.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but go go mad like I don't want to

743
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 4>like go mad the supporters, but lads like, let's not

744
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 4>see you know, saddle bags and b arses and the

745
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:56.799
<v Speaker 4>lads come, come, they.

746
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 3>Started the league next year.

747
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.200
<v Speaker 4>We don't need to mean well that's us now. Although

748
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 4>their leads their their head. Guy Kobe was his name.

749
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 4>He's gone today. I believe he for celebrations. I don't

750
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 4>think he celebrations lasted that long.

751
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 3>He's gone. I could be wrong, it could be I

752
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:15.719
<v Speaker 3>think he's gone to Australia something. He's gone.

753
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.119
<v Speaker 4>I think he's gone to the Sydney's ones for and

754
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.039
<v Speaker 4>I can guarantee his agent was on the phone mid

755
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 4>air going you may fucking put another time grand a

756
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:25.719
<v Speaker 4>month on that fucking contract.

757
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:27.639
<v Speaker 1>By the way, zero on that lads.

758
00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 3>That lad has a.

759
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 4>Goed medal in his ars pocket and he's gonna put

760
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 4>bums on seats. So and a great name you're gonna

761
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:37.039
<v Speaker 4>call somebody Kobe make him all and Ireland women when.

762
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 1>And the man of the match winning nominal determinism.

763
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 2>There enough about those last time. We could have talked

764
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.440
<v Speaker 2>about them all night, but we've been another a better

765
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 2>show to do. We're gonna bust on and start talking

766
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 2>about this lad.

767
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 4>You have me very excited by this lad because Jerry

768
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.840
<v Speaker 4>literally he sends me the synopsis because there is a

769
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 4>great producer of a podcast.

770
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.119
<v Speaker 3>He regrites me beautiful sass that are worthy.

771
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:01.679
<v Speaker 4>I've actually been in this description in all fairness. But therefore,

772
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.320
<v Speaker 4>the two of us to get excited about our own

773
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 4>podcast three.

774
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.280
<v Speaker 2>We don't don't don't bury the lead in it there,

775
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Tom Bring, I'm going to bring the people through it

776
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:08.719
<v Speaker 2>here as well.

777
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>We're not going to dwell on this guy.

778
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I don't know who Jerry is talking about,

779
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 4>is what I'm trying to say.

780
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm very excited. I'm very excited.

781
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.920
<v Speaker 2>So uh and and and I could bring this up

782
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>on Tom and be like, oh fuck, I know that lad.

783
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 2>All that him every now and then on the Tom

784
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>and Jerry Show. We won't have this lad, but we'll

785
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:27.880
<v Speaker 2>just have somebody that we wanted to talk about for

786
00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.159
<v Speaker 2>a while. Yes, someone will catch a Ryean and we'll

787
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 2>be like, Okay, not in the news or current affairs,

788
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:34.119
<v Speaker 2>but hey, holy shit, would I like to hear the

789
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 2>story of this lad. And I saw this lad, I

790
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, gotta talk to Tom about this. This Lad's

791
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.599
<v Speaker 2>name Tom is It sounds Irish, but he's not Irish.

792
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>To the best of my knowledge, it is Donald Donagan,

793
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Donnie dunaghan. Could he's got Donnie Donaghan is still with us,

794
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 2>he walks among us. He's an old man at this stage,

795
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:56.679
<v Speaker 2>he is ninety one years of age. And why the

796
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 2>fuck has he become this lad?

797
00:35:58.199 --> 00:35:58.519
<v Speaker 1>What?

798
00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>What made him spring into the pantheons of this lad?

799
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Tom?

800
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Very simple? Okay, Donny Donagan was at the time of it,

801
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 2>and I don't believe it's ever been it's ever been beaten.

802
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>At the age of eighteen, was the youngest member of

803
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the US Marines in a very particular role, a role

804
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.519
<v Speaker 2>that you and I if we were going to say

805
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>that we like one role in the US Army, if

806
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:26.960
<v Speaker 2>we have a soft spot for one role in the

807
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 2>US Army based on our love of movies like Full

808
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Metal Jackets, that role would be.

809
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 1>What Tom, what? What? What? What role am I talking about?

810
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 4>Is a drill sergeant, by anything, it his drill sergeant eighteen.

811
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 4>He comes such a mean bastard at eighteen.

812
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Well he came in and who would everybody?

813
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>They were they were you know, just he blited through

814
00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>the basic training tom he got all that done within

815
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 2>his eighteenth year.

816
00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:54.639
<v Speaker 3>When when when was? When was?

817
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 4>I suppose if he's ninety one, now this must been.

818
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:57.880
<v Speaker 3>For the First World or Second World War?

819
00:36:57.960 --> 00:36:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Was it?

820
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:02.039
<v Speaker 2>He made the Second World War just by a smage. Okay, okay,

821
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.199
<v Speaker 2>he missed the Second World War just by a smage.

822
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen fifty two he enlisted in the Marine Corps

823
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and became the youngest drilling structure in the history of

824
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:11.039
<v Speaker 2>the Corps.

825
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.639
<v Speaker 1>My man, and he was.

826
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>By all accounts hard task master, as the drill instructors

827
00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 2>tend to be. Now, if anybody's listening here, going like

828
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>drill instructor, please, is that the guy in the in

829
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:26.639
<v Speaker 2>the in the in the in the workshop that's telling

830
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>you how to use the lad No, although funny to say,

831
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.239
<v Speaker 2>as I mentioned that Donny Dunegan was from the age

832
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>of thirteen a laid operator, Well he was a drill

833
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>master then.

834
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.039
<v Speaker 4>Literally mastered the So he was this fellow is this

835
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 4>fellow is a bloke at like you know, making.

836
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 2>More afirmation that his family weren't all that rich and

837
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 2>he was helping supplement their income, and he got all

838
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:52.119
<v Speaker 2>the laid work in the area before he signed up

839
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>for the Marines in nineteen fifty two, and they were like,

840
00:37:56.480 --> 00:38:00.639
<v Speaker 2>this guy's too much of a bastard to just put

841
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.199
<v Speaker 2>rank and file and drill instructor. You'll be waking these

842
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:04.199
<v Speaker 2>fuckers up in the morning.

843
00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Jesus, what a what a like? Typically drilling instructors are veterans,

844
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean?

845
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

846
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Yes, so through for this fella to be a raw

847
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 4>motherfucker at eighteen telling other eighteen, nineteen twenty year olds

848
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:21.559
<v Speaker 4>get the fuck drop your drop your cocks and grab

849
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 4>your socks exactly, stop.

850
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Your grinning, stop your grinning, and grab your linen.

851
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he the drill instructor again. Sorry, I very the

852
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.199
<v Speaker 2>drill instructor. Like from Full Metal Jacket, the guy at

853
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 2>the start.

854
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:34.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna re Sergeant Hurt.

855
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>You're seeingiorr drill instructor who just balls people out.

856
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know theice that shit that high. Yeah, that

857
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of guy. That's our man.

858
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 4>Days of fingerband banging, Old Mary Jane Rottencratch next door over.

859
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:54.159
<v Speaker 2>So Donagan decent, decent, decent soldier, shall we say, right

860
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.440
<v Speaker 2>by all means, served.

861
00:38:56.119 --> 00:39:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Three tours in Vietnam. Wow, now, three tours in Vietnam.

862
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 4>In Vietnam, and he signed up in fifty fucking two.

863
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 3>In fifty two in Vietnam, he must have been fucking

864
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:09.320
<v Speaker 3>in his thirties.

865
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.760
<v Speaker 2>He retired with the rank of major, so he okay,

866
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Major Donnie Donigan in nineteen.

867
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Major Donnie donn again. Let me, let me just do

868
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Miss sums here.

869
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:23.960
<v Speaker 2>So that's twenty five years, twenty five years of active

870
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.519
<v Speaker 2>service in the military, and he's coming out of it

871
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:29.880
<v Speaker 2>at the age of forty three, forty thirty three and

872
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.559
<v Speaker 2>can do whatever the hell he wanted with after.

873
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.840
<v Speaker 4>Pension and everything at that stage, like that man's that

874
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 4>was a major pension.

875
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:40.039
<v Speaker 2>He's all right, good pension. Bronze star. Three purple hearts.

876
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Purple heart is the one you.

877
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Get forgetting wounded in battle, isn't it.

878
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:46.199
<v Speaker 4>Purple hearts, But their bravery as well, I think like

879
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.400
<v Speaker 4>in the bravery as well, Jesus Christ.

880
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 1>Three proper heart.

881
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 4>It is like gonna re sergeant watching my color from

882
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:56.119
<v Speaker 4>Heartbreak Ridge. Yeah, holy shit, it's a bronze star as well.

883
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>The whole lot.

884
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they I'm looking it up here. So the purple

885
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:02.840
<v Speaker 2>heart is for being it's been wounded in battle. So

886
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I you're and surviving. You can get a purple heart

887
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 2>if you die, and then the bronze star is for

888
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>heroic achievement service or murders service in a combat.

889
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:18.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm think you're just you're circling me lips here now

890
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.760
<v Speaker 4>with this nice sup of tea and knowing that I

891
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:25.079
<v Speaker 4>full well love military nostalgia. But I don't think that's

892
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 4>what Donny you're here to tell me.

893
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Donny did.

894
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:32.880
<v Speaker 2>No, Donnie, who went through twenty five years in the

895
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>military and emerged at the other side, had carried with

896
00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.800
<v Speaker 2>him Tom a secret that he had told nobody.

897
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>In Yeah, great big Fluffy ears.

898
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.320
<v Speaker 5>No, he had a secret. He had a childhood secret

899
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 5>that he had told absolutely nobody, and it's probably something

900
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:56.159
<v Speaker 5>that that led him to where he was because Donnie Donigan,

901
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:59.159
<v Speaker 5>when he was ten years of age, saw his mother

902
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 5>get shot Fuck.

903
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.639
<v Speaker 3>Right now we know where the raw Baster was born, right.

904
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Donnie Donegan saw his mother get shot dead, and Tom,

905
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>so did we because Donnie Donagan's mother at the time

906
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 2>was Bambie's mother. Because what nobody knew was the Donnie Donegan,

907
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 2>as a ten year old boy, was the voice of

908
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Bambie in the Disney movie Bombie.

909
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:31.119
<v Speaker 3>As a ten year old.

910
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 1>As a ten year old, the sweet little come this

911
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.320
<v Speaker 1>way murther then, I think we've given.

912
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Them the slip, mother, Mother, hold on.

913
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 4>So he went from being a cutey wootsie boy.

914
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I went from being picked from obscurity at the age

915
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>of three in a talent contest in Memphis, Tennessee.

916
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Don't you know a.

917
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Family is poor as dirt and to stick the kid

918
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:03.079
<v Speaker 2>in the talent contest at three to get one hundred

919
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 2>dollars and they're like, holy shit. And someone says, hey,

920
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 2>get this kid into the movies or whatever. And he

921
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:12.880
<v Speaker 2>started in a couple of movies, not in major although

922
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 2>we you know, we say the biggest role was Bambi

923
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.840
<v Speaker 2>in Bambi, But his biggest on screen role was the

924
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Son of Frankenstein in the Son of Frankenstein in nineteen

925
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 2>thirty nine. I haven't seen that one, but I can

926
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 2>only imagine's a cute little fucking dude popping around the place.

927
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 2>And in nineteen forty two he was selected by Walt

928
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Disney himself to be the voice of Bambie in Bambi.

929
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Holy then did it?

930
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:40.360
<v Speaker 7>Then?

931
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:42.320
<v Speaker 3>If you follow what I've told you, so far.

932
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 2>And then he just decided at the age of thirteen,

933
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 2>fuck this, I want to go with the laid.

934
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Don you if you learn those lines.

935
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>There's this guy over here and it looks to me

936
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 2>like he's Whittland Metal. What is this sorcery? And he

937
00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.039
<v Speaker 2>went to become a laid operator just just and not.

938
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 1>For nothing, didn't grow up to be.

939
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:09.039
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like when Daniel dale Lewis quit acting to

940
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.719
<v Speaker 2>be a shoemaker all those years ago. This is a

941
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 2>kid that's thirteen years of age going like, yeah, you

942
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 2>know what, Yeah, movies. Movies are temporary, laid in there,

943
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 2>that's where it is.

944
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, you see this is allowed. But his head strapped on.

945
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:22.639
<v Speaker 4>Let's be honest, like because I mean, the last thing

946
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:24.599
<v Speaker 4>he wants to be is like Jason Bateman, like, you know,

947
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:27.440
<v Speaker 4>just chasing the dream continuously. This kid, I love the

948
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:29.599
<v Speaker 4>fact that he knew he was done when he was done, like.

949
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.039
<v Speaker 1>You rapped, when you're done, you're done, when he.

950
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Wrapped it up went.

951
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 4>I love the notion that he's just a burnt out

952
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.679
<v Speaker 4>kid at like twelve. It's like smoking hamlets now, just

953
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:41.800
<v Speaker 4>just walking around the house with a fucking with his.

954
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:44.639
<v Speaker 3>Bathrobe open, Spider Man bathroom open.

955
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Listen.

956
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:48.639
<v Speaker 3>That's You're just gonna have to. He just gonna have to.

957
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 3>It is what it is. I can't know money left, Yeah,

958
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.039
<v Speaker 3>I got nothing. I gotta fall back on the tools.

959
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:54.039
<v Speaker 3>I gotta fall back.

960
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And then, you know, after after five years of laid

961
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.559
<v Speaker 2>operation turn Actually you know what you know, I think

962
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 2>the real money's in killing. I think the real money's

963
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>in killing and roaring that lads at five in the morning.

964
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 3>She's been broken as a young deer.

965
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

966
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's nothing you could do with this kid, like

967
00:44:12.280 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's just like a minute now.

968
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 3>He's got a thousand yards stare at thirteen years of age.

969
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Like a thousand yards there at thirteen operating a laid

970
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:23.679
<v Speaker 2>under constant risk of getting drawn into that thing because

971
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:26.519
<v Speaker 2>all the time, all the laid is folks as a

972
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 2>PTO shaft that you can push a knife at. Yeah

973
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.320
<v Speaker 2>literally ah, and then gets to be the youngest drill

974
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.880
<v Speaker 2>instructor and head and at no stage for twenty five

975
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 2>years to heat turn around and go do you ever

976
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 2>see BOMBI? Yeah that was me, because how the fuck

977
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>would you be a senior drill instructor gunnery sergeant Hartman.

978
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 2>When every man in that in that training group knows

979
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:52.880
<v Speaker 2>that you're fucking the little deer that couldn't stand up

980
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:53.119
<v Speaker 2>on it.

981
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 3>How how duped would you feel?

982
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, as a marine will say twenty odd years.

983
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.639
<v Speaker 4>You know, you served your time and you you're retired

984
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:04.400
<v Speaker 4>as well now. And this guy had been balling you

985
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.039
<v Speaker 4>out of it in Paras Island or wherever they were,

986
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.039
<v Speaker 4>San Antonio, wherever they're you know, the training.

987
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Base was, he's balling the fuck out.

988
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 1>You be on it.

989
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:16.800
<v Speaker 4>You know he was your sergeant, then you're fucking He

990
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:19.880
<v Speaker 4>became major, probably took a desk job, but I mean

991
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 4>he was your superior, and he was known as a

992
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.039
<v Speaker 4>hard con from day one, and you respected everything. He

993
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:28.320
<v Speaker 4>probably formed you as a soldier as a marine, he

994
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.360
<v Speaker 4>formed you because of his heart, he hard reasoning.

995
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 3>And then you find out the country was Bambi's Yeah.

996
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, what no, no, this is my my entire

997
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:43.079
<v Speaker 4>persona as a marine, A hard heart. You know, some

998
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.239
<v Speaker 4>of these legs would have went on to become Navy seals,

999
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:46.440
<v Speaker 4>do you know what I mean?

1000
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:47.039
<v Speaker 1>Like that?

1001
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>This guy, he's as hard as fucking and in his

1002
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 2>own words, he says, you know, there was absolutely no

1003
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.920
<v Speaker 2>way I would have succeeded in the military as much

1004
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.039
<v Speaker 2>if everybody knew I was Major Bambi.

1005
00:45:57.800 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 3>But sure he do.

1006
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.440
<v Speaker 4>You know what it was to his blessing in the course,

1007
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 4>You see, he didn't have any downtime leaning against the wall,

1008
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.239
<v Speaker 4>smoking figs with the boys, because he was the boss

1009
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 4>from the second he was stepped in there. He's one

1010
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 4>of his freaks who can just beat the boss from

1011
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:13.719
<v Speaker 4>the second he walks.

1012
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:13.920
<v Speaker 3>In the door.

1013
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 4>But if he was just a normal grunt, there'll be

1014
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 4>sometime he'd be in a hole somewhere in the fucking Vietcong,

1015
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, yet in the jungle, just leaning back going,

1016
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, smoking the fact, trying to keep the head down,

1017
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 4>Charlie in the trees, going, do you know who I

1018
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:34.039
<v Speaker 4>was as a child, fucking go on, I was. You

1019
00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.840
<v Speaker 4>weren't your fuck, But I swear to swear.

1020
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 1>To your phone out and look it up.

1021
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:42.639
<v Speaker 4>You mean the phone on my back did have to

1022
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 4>wind up calling an air strike?

1023
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:46.880
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't.

1024
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:48.559
<v Speaker 2>He does appear to have had a bit of wit

1025
00:46:48.639 --> 00:46:49.239
<v Speaker 2>in it as well.

1026
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>And he's he's Memphis, Tennessee. Thomas. You know we were

1027
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:53.519
<v Speaker 1>gonna like him as he.

1028
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Has to be a soul in this boy anyway, like yeah, yeah,

1029
00:46:58.400 --> 00:46:59.800
<v Speaker 4>I got some holes in my body.

1030
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Got didn't put there?

1031
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it? So did he? What was the he has?

1032
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 3>He just did?

1033
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:10.440
<v Speaker 4>He so a sequester into into ambiguity after that or.

1034
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:11.119
<v Speaker 1>What after that?

1035
00:47:11.199 --> 00:47:13.400
<v Speaker 2>He retired with his good lady wife, who I believe

1036
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:15.639
<v Speaker 2>it's still with him. But he will do an odd

1037
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.480
<v Speaker 2>convention here and there. He will do the circuit, as

1038
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:21.039
<v Speaker 2>they say. He works as much as he likes, is

1039
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 2>interviewed every now and then on on the subject and

1040
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mind talking about it. But at the same time

1041
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.559
<v Speaker 2>in his own words as well, he could have made

1042
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 2>it to be the chief of the Secret Service if

1043
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:34.559
<v Speaker 2>he had wanted to be. He could have dove in

1044
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 2>front of the bullet that was headed for Kennedy. And

1045
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 2>still people will be like, that'sh a man that played Bambi.

1046
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. As he sits there gone.

1047
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Mayo for semn.

1048
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:50.000
<v Speaker 2>So there you go, just a little story and the

1049
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:51.920
<v Speaker 2>listeners of the Tom and Jerry Show, just just a

1050
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.000
<v Speaker 2>little something something there.

1051
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:54.199
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

1052
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.559
<v Speaker 4>That's and the fact that he'd the wherewrell to keep himself.

1053
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.239
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, I can totally believe it because.

1054
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 4>If you went, you know, as a team all the

1055
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.400
<v Speaker 4>way into his teens and then got drafted, then you go, oh,

1056
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:07.039
<v Speaker 4>I can see why.

1057
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.199
<v Speaker 3>I see. You know, he's probably be a bit resentful.

1058
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.159
<v Speaker 4>He chose oh yeah, twelve years of age.

1059
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 3>To not chase that dream. Ago.

1060
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 4>No, I'm going to be a machinist, thanks very much,

1061
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:18.800
<v Speaker 4>because there's no money that fucking these hundred good lads

1062
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:21.199
<v Speaker 4>aren't grown out coun trees and there's only one Bambie

1063
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 4>and I can tell you one night, but it looks

1064
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 4>things there isn't going to be in Bambie too, So yeah,

1065
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:27.519
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying.

1066
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 2>And the vice is going to be at thirteen years

1067
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.559
<v Speaker 2>of age anyway. Yeah, And you know, the only equivalent

1068
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 2>of it that I can think of now is if

1069
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you can imagine being a young US marine being selled

1070
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.639
<v Speaker 2>out to Afghanistan and you're going around the fucking Candahar

1071
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 2>province and you're your squad leader.

1072
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Is the kid from the sixth Sense, you know?

1073
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe they were fucked.

1074
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but a couple I do like looking into those

1075
00:48:54.159 --> 00:48:56.320
<v Speaker 4>things every so you'll get you'll get them coming up

1076
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.599
<v Speaker 4>what they're doing now and some flers to chase the

1077
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:00.280
<v Speaker 4>dream and it doesn't go well from about her. But

1078
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.679
<v Speaker 4>there was you know, lads from the goonies who just decided,

1079
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:04.840
<v Speaker 4>it's one.

1080
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Fell that's a vet.

1081
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 4>He totally gave it. He gave it in, give it

1082
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:10.360
<v Speaker 4>up straight away. That was one and done.

1083
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:10.760
<v Speaker 3>That's me.

1084
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.559
<v Speaker 4>And went on to be a vet after that. A

1085
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:17.199
<v Speaker 4>couple of lads you know from you know, the the

1086
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:18.039
<v Speaker 4>flight and navigator.

1087
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:19.320
<v Speaker 3>I think he went have to be a slicster or

1088
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 3>something like, you.

1089
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Know, just even on to require a solicitor.

1090
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I haven't fallen.

1091
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Across anything to win into the military. And again here

1092
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I am in a like.

1093
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Succeeded. Yeah, to the high degree. You don't want to

1094
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:38.079
<v Speaker 1>be pinned in by eminy fire.

1095
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:39.760
<v Speaker 2>And you look to your left and it's just like

1096
00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>sucking some lad from the little rascals besides you. You're

1097
00:49:42.280 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 2>like when he's sucking showing all the enemy where he was,

1098
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:49.679
<v Speaker 2>he looks up the end of the gun, there's like

1099
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 2>a black ring comes up. Well, listen, there you go,

1100
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:00.000
<v Speaker 2>just a little just a little throw in for you

1101
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 2>fine folks with the Tom and Jerry audience there and

1102
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 2>you know what we're gonna do, Tom, We're gonna rock

1103
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:06.679
<v Speaker 2>and roll with the last segment of it. We went

1104
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 2>down memory lane for that. We went down memory lane

1105
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Speaker 2>for the last two segments. Seventy five years plus on

1106
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:16.199
<v Speaker 2>both of them, but they weren't within our lifetime. The

1107
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.440
<v Speaker 2>last segment of the show is we talk about things

1108
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 2>that we've experienced in our lifetime.

1109
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Tom. It's the segment we call we remember when.

1110
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:26.519
<v Speaker 3>Do you have any jar?

1111
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't, Tom, do you I don't. I don't.

1112
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 4>If I was going and this will tell you how

1113
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:35.320
<v Speaker 4>fucking deep red raw redneck I would be, I'd probably

1114
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 4>get this what's on my T shirt right now, I'll

1115
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.679
<v Speaker 4>probably get this somewhere on my body.

1116
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you as as I get a wee bit older,

1117
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I might actually might actually get a few.

1118
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:47.440
<v Speaker 1>For the fuck of it.

1119
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:50.000
<v Speaker 2>We better tell people what we are talking about. It

1120
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:53.519
<v Speaker 2>is the rise in our lifetime, Tom, of what we

1121
00:50:53.679 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 2>used to know as tattoos, but I believe are now

1122
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:57.320
<v Speaker 2>known as body art.

1123
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, buddy art, just like climate change with global

1124
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 4>warming one time.

1125
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:04.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, packages is a different thing.

1126
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Tattoo just just seemed to to to course for And

1127
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:11.199
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm going to tell you, I'm going

1128
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:13.079
<v Speaker 2>to give it to this one, because what's on people

1129
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:16.320
<v Speaker 2>these days are not what I knew was tattoos as

1130
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:16.760
<v Speaker 2>a child.

1131
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:19.639
<v Speaker 4>There's some now there's some shit. It's still out there

1132
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 4>because you're asking a human to do it. Well, I mean,

1133
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 4>this is it too until you get Now there's some people.

1134
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:25.800
<v Speaker 4>You could have a year long waiting list, and people

1135
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 4>travel to Japan for some of these people, and it's

1136
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:32.960
<v Speaker 4>so realistic it's ludicrous their mind, the way that works

1137
00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 4>and the way they're able to write these do these things.

1138
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:36.800
<v Speaker 4>I saw a guy got the full proclamation and it

1139
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:40.119
<v Speaker 4>was very well done, but full Proclamation of independence on his.

1140
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Back and not as tattoo. It is the first one

1141
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:42.840
<v Speaker 3>he ever went.

1142
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>For whole we go all we'll go all in on the.

1143
00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.119
<v Speaker 4>Proclamation on something he'll never be able to read. It

1144
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:50.639
<v Speaker 4>is on his back, you know what I mean.

1145
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.039
<v Speaker 3>So, but that's I.

1146
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Gotta tell you, Tom, when we were when we were

1147
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:57.760
<v Speaker 2>coming up, you and I again, kids of the eighties.

1148
00:51:57.760 --> 00:51:59.039
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not going to say like what we were

1149
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:00.719
<v Speaker 2>there for the invention of THEO.

1150
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 8>No, but like tattoos were the payamit of like the

1151
00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:09.800
<v Speaker 8>barliest of men, they were quite poor, Like you had

1152
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:11.960
<v Speaker 8>to squint very hard to see that it was a

1153
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.760
<v Speaker 8>panther clothing into your forearm.

1154
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:15.719
<v Speaker 4>And that was literally I'm thinking of one fella. His

1155
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 4>name was Mark, who was lovely feller from Cove, but

1156
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:19.519
<v Speaker 4>he used to call him three ton because he was

1157
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:20.400
<v Speaker 4>like a three ton digger.

1158
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:21.039
<v Speaker 3>Like this fella.

1159
00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:24.159
<v Speaker 4>He was built never played rugby and I was crying shame.

1160
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.679
<v Speaker 4>He was built like an international prop you know what

1161
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:29.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean, all tank. He was all tank, this guy.

1162
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:30.559
<v Speaker 3>But he had.

1163
00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:33.840
<v Speaker 4>He had the quintessential dagger, you know.

1164
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's like there was like six things you could get.

1165
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 4>There was Mam Dad and the knuckles, and there was

1166
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.840
<v Speaker 4>the dagger, and then he got a panther one day

1167
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.880
<v Speaker 4>going around his forearm. The panther was one and it

1168
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 4>was it was woeful, Like I mean, it was the

1169
00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:50.159
<v Speaker 4>worst kind of cartoon, you know what I mean, because

1170
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:53.480
<v Speaker 4>the needles, the technology wasn't there, and like many things,

1171
00:52:53.519 --> 00:52:58.039
<v Speaker 4>if the competition isn't savage, then standards don't have to

1172
00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 4>come up. Are just happy to get this. And of

1173
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 4>course every single lad I was always in the building sits.

1174
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:09.199
<v Speaker 4>Every lad would come back from whether its fucking albofera

1175
00:53:09.559 --> 00:53:13.679
<v Speaker 4>Benadorm or whatever, and they'd get to late night Tattoo Studio,

1176
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:16.440
<v Speaker 4>which is a brilliant idea, and they would invariably come

1177
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:18.800
<v Speaker 4>back from a Spanish island as.

1178
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:23.559
<v Speaker 3>A white Irish lad. It's that Maori tattoo.

1179
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:25.679
<v Speaker 1>This this, this I.

1180
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Want to talk about for for for for two fucking

1181
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:28.760
<v Speaker 2>hours as well.

1182
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1183
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like trends, they come on trends, they go yeah,

1184
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:40.039
<v Speaker 2>and what's fashionable now may not be fashionable again. It's

1185
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 2>a passing fad. And that's okay when it's a pair

1186
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:48.199
<v Speaker 2>of jeans or a haircut or similar or same Tom,

1187
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.079
<v Speaker 2>not when it's a permanent etching on your body. And

1188
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.760
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, in the early two thousands, as we

1189
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 2>were coming through, every young lad decided that what they

1190
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:01.599
<v Speaker 2>needed was tribal tattoos. Like and to be fair, at

1191
00:54:01.639 --> 00:54:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the time, it was like, holy shit, you mean like

1192
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Blade has Fuck, yeah, I'll go a couple of them. Yeah,

1193
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.119
<v Speaker 2>as Tom says, there, these are tribal tattoos.

1194
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:12.519
<v Speaker 1>You're not in the tribe.

1195
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:17.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Polynesian tattoos. Never have you even been to the

1196
00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 4>south Sea Islands or Oceanica, and you know, you have

1197
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 4>never been anywhere, you know, I have no grasp of it.

1198
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:28.639
<v Speaker 4>Have never you know, prior to prior to Moana, have

1199
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:31.320
<v Speaker 4>probably never had an experience of it. Like, but lads

1200
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:35.440
<v Speaker 4>were getting these tribal tattoos and it. There was companies too,

1201
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 4>like say, they were kind of I suppose they were

1202
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:42.559
<v Speaker 4>associated with sponsoring UFC fighters in the early day, like affliction.

1203
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Remember affliction? No, remember that?

1204
00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:48.159
<v Speaker 4>And it was all tribal shit alright, all tribal ship

1205
00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:50.320
<v Speaker 4>on their t shirts. And as we get that and

1206
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 4>they get like the yin and yang symbol fucking put

1207
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.599
<v Speaker 4>in there as well, I think that's.

1208
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:55.000
<v Speaker 1>What it was.

1209
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:58.679
<v Speaker 2>It was like, you know, well, I don't want as

1210
00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:01.079
<v Speaker 2>I was growing up by seeing like my dad had

1211
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 2>like a you know, the swallow on your hand, yeah,

1212
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.400
<v Speaker 2>or or or you know, the dagger and the heart

1213
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 2>and all that kind and I don't want any of that.

1214
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't want.

1215
00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't want any of that. Okay, Well, how do

1216
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:12.000
<v Speaker 2>you feel about swirls?

1217
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Man? How do you feel about big sharp swirls?

1218
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:15.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1219
00:55:15.519 --> 00:55:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Grand what is it?

1220
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Is it a music?

1221
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 9>No?

1222
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Not, kid, it's not.

1223
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:20.079
<v Speaker 3>It's just like swirly bits.

1224
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, fucking slap one on me.

1225
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah for sure, let's good.

1226
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:26.199
<v Speaker 4>I remember I can remember wanting one on my tie. Yeah,

1227
00:55:26.280 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 4>because I saw there was a Maori guy, like he

1228
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:30.119
<v Speaker 4>was a New Zealand guy. He was playing for a

1229
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.840
<v Speaker 4>club that I was fan of, and I remember thinking

1230
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:35.159
<v Speaker 4>that is the cool. But of course he had one.

1231
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.440
<v Speaker 4>He probably had it like the way they do those ones,

1232
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.280
<v Speaker 4>I think is the sharpened boar tooth on the end

1233
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 4>of a little stick.

1234
00:55:41.159 --> 00:55:43.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and they tattoo you in front of the whole village.

1235
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:46.119
<v Speaker 2>He didn't get it on a stag weekend. He caught it,

1236
00:55:46.480 --> 00:55:49.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, as part of the ceremony, their version of

1237
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the confirmation.

1238
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go.

1239
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Here's here's our Lord and Savior Christ and I lay

1240
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 2>down here while we hammered this shit int you for

1241
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:55.679
<v Speaker 2>an hour or two.

1242
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:57.760
<v Speaker 4>And you said ball snake in front of the whole village,

1243
00:55:57.800 --> 00:55:59.920
<v Speaker 4>and we get to do it. But this was my

1244
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 4>notion and put with no further thought into other than

1245
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.920
<v Speaker 4>my sixteen year old bring thinking that's cool.

1246
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:07.719
<v Speaker 3>That's cool.

1247
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:07.880
<v Speaker 9>Now.

1248
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:09.320
<v Speaker 4>By the time I got into my twenties, I was

1249
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:12.079
<v Speaker 4>kind of going, oh, none of this is everything I was.

1250
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 4>I was able to recognize that what I thought was

1251
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.519
<v Speaker 4>cool last year, I don't think it's cool now. So

1252
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:19.960
<v Speaker 4>my fear was always what I think is cool Now.

1253
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:23.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I'm gonna think it's cool now. Had

1254
00:56:23.320 --> 00:56:30.760
<v Speaker 4>I got a picture of say in nineteen ninety two Piggerio, Yes,

1255
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.079
<v Speaker 4>I still think that's cool, just saying I'm not sure

1256
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:36.840
<v Speaker 4>I wanted tattooed on me, but I still think it

1257
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 4>is cool.

1258
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I was the same I was.

1259
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:43.199
<v Speaker 2>I was always, you know, intrigued by it, but I

1260
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 2>could never I could never pick something that I could

1261
00:56:45.239 --> 00:56:46.639
<v Speaker 2>stand over for the rest of my life.

1262
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that seems to be the recurring team.

1263
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.199
<v Speaker 4>And I ask people what and then you see once

1264
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:54.280
<v Speaker 4>somebody gets they say, oh, well, it's addictive. Once you

1265
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:56.760
<v Speaker 4>get one, you've broken the seal now on your and

1266
00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:58.360
<v Speaker 4>then you just don't give a fuck yet, you don't

1267
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.239
<v Speaker 4>give a fuck like you see. And it seems real

1268
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:04.599
<v Speaker 4>trend with some guys now getting nostaltic style, you know,

1269
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Californian sailor style.

1270
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Sailor Jerry styles styles.

1271
00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 4>You know they with the woman with the tits out

1272
00:57:11.440 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 4>and put it.

1273
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I believe that's Sailor Jerry styles.

1274
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Is it Sailor Jerry?

1275
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that is correct? Me in there?

1276
00:57:17.320 --> 00:57:20.119
<v Speaker 2>But that's the classic Popeye tattoos. Yeah, yeah, it ways

1277
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:21.760
<v Speaker 2>to go before we get to that, because we saw

1278
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.280
<v Speaker 2>a few other trends tom While the fellows were off

1279
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:27.639
<v Speaker 2>getting tribal tattoos left, right and center, the ladies it

1280
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:31.679
<v Speaker 2>must be said, Well, you know, I'm from a small

1281
00:57:31.719 --> 00:57:35.480
<v Speaker 2>town in Ireland. There were no painted ladies in the

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00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.480
<v Speaker 2>town all that all that terrible much, but if there was,

1283
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 2>they might have like a dolphin. Yeah, I think dolphins

1284
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:46.559
<v Speaker 2>were big noise for ladies in the mid nineties.

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00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 3>I want to that someone butterflies. Butterflies, Yeah, yeah.

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00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I wanted someone take that, and I want to say

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00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:56.400
<v Speaker 2>it was Mark go on, correct me in the comments.

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00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:58.559
<v Speaker 2>I want to say mark oone had like a dolphin tattoo.

1289
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 2>And then every girl of that age that was a

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00:58:01.519 --> 00:58:04.119
<v Speaker 2>take that fan were like buying dolphin tattoo for me

1291
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:07.039
<v Speaker 2>please as well. And then I'll get I'll get a butterfly,

1292
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 2>you got a butterfly, I'll get like.

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00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:09.360
<v Speaker 1>A musical note.

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00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:12.800
<v Speaker 4>But then that that that transpired then to something different,

1295
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 4>like you went into your Chinese symbols then as well

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00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:16.280
<v Speaker 4>on top of that, you.

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00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Know, Chinese symbols. That was another big thing that came in.

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00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:21.679
<v Speaker 2>And again I want to say that, what is a

1299
00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Chinese symbol other than a tribal tattoo for a lady.

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00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:28.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's just a square couple of yeah. But and

1301
00:58:28.639 --> 00:58:31.559
<v Speaker 4>then as the tribal tattoos came across to women, then

1302
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:35.480
<v Speaker 4>it was they moved around the hip or down it

1303
00:58:35.719 --> 00:58:36.760
<v Speaker 4>and onto the lower.

1304
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Back became a settling point for for the tram step like,

1305
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 2>but who went nowhere else do I want this?

1306
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't want it on my upper shoulder, I don't

1307
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:52.480
<v Speaker 4>want it on my leg. Let's put on my the

1308
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.719
<v Speaker 4>base my base of Let's put around the base of

1309
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:57.920
<v Speaker 4>my spine a tribal tattoo.

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00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:04.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, or the crest of Liverpool FC, whatever, depending

1311
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:07.320
<v Speaker 2>on where you were. But it just became like and again,

1312
00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to study the.

1313
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Why it was.

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00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I guess it was like, well, you know, at the

1315
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:13.880
<v Speaker 2>time we got to remember.

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00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen.

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00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Nowadays, you can tattoo your face and walk into a

1318
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:18.719
<v Speaker 2>job in the in the in the c suite and.

1319
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Nobody gives a buck.

1320
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:22.320
<v Speaker 2>But back in the back in the day, it was well,

1321
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, don't have it showing, you know, because if

1322
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:29.280
<v Speaker 2>you're working, if you're or a waitress and bar, you know,

1323
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 2>door to door salesman, whatever it might be. People see tattoos.

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00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:35.039
<v Speaker 2>They may not like that, and they may just not

1325
00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.639
<v Speaker 2>fucking do any business with you. Again, this is thirty

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00:59:37.679 --> 00:59:38.400
<v Speaker 2>years ago, folks.

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00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So they were like, all right, okay, so nothing on

1328
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>my arms, nothing on my hands.

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00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.559
<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't want it on a belly because

1330
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, but yeah, but lower back, bang, tidy, beautiful.

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00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:52.199
<v Speaker 1>I do it there.

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00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:52.800
<v Speaker 3>I remember.

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00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:56.840
<v Speaker 4>I always thought what it was a sacred thing to get.

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00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:58.039
<v Speaker 4>If you were going to get one, it had to

1335
00:59:58.079 --> 00:59:59.519
<v Speaker 4>be serious and you had to be all of it

1336
00:59:59.599 --> 01:00:01.000
<v Speaker 4>in a You had to stand over this for you

1337
01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:02.360
<v Speaker 4>have to stand over this. You have to get a

1338
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:04.559
<v Speaker 4>reputable person to do it, and all the rest of them.

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01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:06.119
<v Speaker 4>I'll never forget. He was a chap He was doing

1340
01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:08.000
<v Speaker 4>comedy at the time, and he asked me to pick

1341
01:00:08.079 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 4>him up from It was actually near where Chris Kent

1342
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:11.320
<v Speaker 4>is from.

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01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I remember going, oh, no, I know the area, all right, yeah,

1344
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:14.039
<v Speaker 3>I can pick you up there.

1345
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:16.679
<v Speaker 4>And we were heading to some gig somewhere, let's say Waterford,

1346
01:00:17.440 --> 01:00:20.400
<v Speaker 4>and I pulled into a house in estate and he

1347
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:21.960
<v Speaker 4>walks out the door of this house. He was like,

1348
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:23.800
<v Speaker 4>all right, thanks man and walks out, and I was like, oh,

1349
01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:25.159
<v Speaker 4>this is not your house. It's like, oh no, I

1350
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:26.239
<v Speaker 4>was just getting a tattoo.

1351
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:29.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in some lad's house, in his bedroom.

1352
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:31.840
<v Speaker 4>This guy had a tattoo gun and he got The

1353
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:36.360
<v Speaker 4>guy had gotten in collegiate style. You know, American football

1354
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:39.039
<v Speaker 4>numbers of eighty eight because that was the year he

1355
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:41.719
<v Speaker 4>was born, and you know you might forget that.

1356
01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>And also code for Hyle Hitler.

1357
01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:44.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah is it?

1358
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1359
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Is it?

1360
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:47.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:47.920
<v Speaker 7>Right?

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01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But he look explaining that one.

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01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:52.679
<v Speaker 3>No, he got eighty eight, not hate.

1364
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what's the eighth letter of the alphabet?

1365
01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:56.000
<v Speaker 8>Oh?

1366
01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:56.239
<v Speaker 3>Fuck?

1367
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:58.039
<v Speaker 4>You have to go all right, Okay, I don't think

1368
01:00:58.079 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 4>he thought that far though, No, he didn't.

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01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:02.000
<v Speaker 2>And this this is why I'm never gonna touch to you,

1370
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:04.239
<v Speaker 2>because I can never think far enough ahead that you

1371
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:06.719
<v Speaker 2>gotta leaf, you gotta leaf your racist pastward?

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01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Wait no, what what?

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01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:07.599
<v Speaker 4>What?

1374
01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:08.159
<v Speaker 3>What?

1375
01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:12.079
<v Speaker 3>But I think even then he goes, what do you think?

1377
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:13.880
<v Speaker 4>And he showed me And because the immediately spot a

1378
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:16.039
<v Speaker 4>mistake or the guy didn't on the piping on the

1379
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 4>outside he where he should have infilled, he left the blank,

1380
01:01:18.639 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 4>and where he left the blank he should in field,

1381
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:23.559
<v Speaker 4>and oh ah fuck, but he brushed it off, and

1382
01:01:23.559 --> 01:01:26.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Jesus Christ, that'd be like somebody taking a

1383
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:28.599
<v Speaker 4>toe off me in the way, you.

1384
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Know, and the wrong toe off as well.

1385
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what the fuck?

1386
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:34.960
<v Speaker 4>How are you just gonna sit there not seeding like?

1387
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.239
<v Speaker 4>But he didn't, and I remember thinking, all right, because

1388
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:41.280
<v Speaker 4>he's had a few already shite ones also and it

1389
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:43.039
<v Speaker 4>is what it is now and that's what it is,

1390
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:46.440
<v Speaker 4>you know. So and but it always struck me that

1391
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:49.599
<v Speaker 4>it was like, well, are you going to be Not

1392
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:51.199
<v Speaker 4>that I care that I'm judge, but you're gonna be

1393
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:53.239
<v Speaker 4>judged incorrectly, do you know what I mean? So, say

1394
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:56.679
<v Speaker 4>you got one when you're really into the spice giruns

1395
01:01:56.760 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 4>or something and you're like whatever, I'm going to get that,

1396
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:00.880
<v Speaker 4>or Oasis and you want to get that, and now

1397
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:02.559
<v Speaker 4>you don't really like him anymore. And the first thing

1398
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:04.760
<v Speaker 4>somebody sees on your knee, as alwaysis you're like.

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01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:12.800
<v Speaker 7>Now or the Lost profits Tom Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, yeah,

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01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.679
<v Speaker 7>you're like, oh ship, you can Gary glitter on your

1401
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:17.760
<v Speaker 7>yeah yeah.

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01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Fuck Jimmy, jim fixed it for me, yea.

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01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:24.159
<v Speaker 4>So so so, although I do have to tell you iself.

1404
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:26.480
<v Speaker 4>Probably one of the greatest tattoos ever. A guy got

1405
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:31.639
<v Speaker 4>a he got a cartoon of a sausage of bologney

1406
01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:36.719
<v Speaker 4>on his leg, but it was below his knee. I

1407
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.119
<v Speaker 4>just went, all right, all day long, that's a joke forever,

1408
01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:41.360
<v Speaker 4>and I can totally get on.

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01:02:41.760 --> 01:02:42.639
<v Speaker 3>That's what I would get.

1410
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:44.920
<v Speaker 4>I think I would get committed to the bit at that.

1411
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:47.119
<v Speaker 3>But and it will.

1412
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:50.599
<v Speaker 4>Never feel it's a great bit. It's a blowney below

1413
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:53.480
<v Speaker 4>the knee. Yes, all day long. I'm like, all right, now,

1414
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:54.679
<v Speaker 4>that's maybe possibly one.

1415
01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I could get.

1416
01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:56.760
<v Speaker 1>So commarre to me, tom right.

1417
01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:00.199
<v Speaker 2>So we've talked about when we were younger gentlemen, were

1418
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:03.119
<v Speaker 2>some dubious trends that many ran a foul of, and

1419
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 2>there were young ladies got in on the act as well.

1420
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:09.400
<v Speaker 2>They started to get a, you know, way more tattoos

1421
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:14.800
<v Speaker 2>than they otherwise would have done. And at some stage

1422
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:18.480
<v Speaker 2>in the last fifteen years or so, all of a sudden,

1423
01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 2>it's like, hey, do you know the way tattoos are

1424
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:23.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of and they're kind of kind of fucking not

1425
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:26.960
<v Speaker 2>What if they were masterpieces? What if they were just

1426
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:31.440
<v Speaker 2>like absolutely crisp crystal clear, you could actually tell exactly.

1427
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:38.599
<v Speaker 1>What it was a print quality drawings.

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01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:41.519
<v Speaker 4>And I think we're probably I mean the notion of

1429
01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 4>an artist doing and I suppose is nice ive. You know,

1430
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.559
<v Speaker 4>you're into the creators other things. But if you want

1431
01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:50.559
<v Speaker 4>a super realistic, awesome thing, you can't tell me right

1432
01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:53.280
<v Speaker 4>now that there isn't an Ai tattoo machine somewhere in

1433
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:56.639
<v Speaker 4>Japan that you can stick your fucking arm in, you know,

1434
01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.599
<v Speaker 4>and just does it because they're has to be that

1435
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:05.119
<v Speaker 4>level of sophistication, because they've jumped so quick. Now, don't

1436
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:08.119
<v Speaker 4>get me wrong, there's still lads like post Malone, who,

1437
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:10.840
<v Speaker 4>as he was described brilliantly on a kil tony by

1438
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:12.800
<v Speaker 4>a lad one time, because post Malone, you look like

1439
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.119
<v Speaker 4>an unemployed crocodile hunter, which I thought was a fucking

1440
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 4>perfect description of him. He looks like a sack of

1441
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.800
<v Speaker 4>ship who fell on some crayons, like terrible things drawn

1442
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:25.400
<v Speaker 4>on his face. But he's get out of jail cardis

1443
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:27.480
<v Speaker 4>he's got enough money to get really high end laser

1444
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.239
<v Speaker 4>to get it off when he wants to know, should

1445
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 4>the day come.

1446
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I do remember Frankie Boyle picking out some lad in

1447
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the audience going like, look at you, and all the tattoos.

1448
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.000
<v Speaker 1>You look like the notebook I keep beside the phone.

1449
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:44.679
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, but Tom, I I cannot fathom what the hell

1450
01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:46.719
<v Speaker 10>happened in this And it couldn't be that we just

1451
01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:48.679
<v Speaker 10>got a bunch of fucking Latvians in in the mid

1452
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:51.079
<v Speaker 10>in the mid two thousands, and they are all excellent

1453
01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:52.039
<v Speaker 10>tattoo artists.

1454
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:53.000
<v Speaker 2>That can't be the case.

1455
01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:54.559
<v Speaker 3>I kind of is a bitcher.

1456
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.039
<v Speaker 4>You tapped into something there which I noted before, is

1457
01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.440
<v Speaker 4>that as things get more worldwide, it be noting on

1458
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 4>somebody to like we would have been the first of

1459
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 4>our kind. I suppose in two thousand and one start

1460
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:07.800
<v Speaker 4>going doing the J one and going to America. But

1461
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.599
<v Speaker 4>then when you look into it, so many lads go

1462
01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:13.760
<v Speaker 4>to America, you know what I mean, go to now.

1463
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.000
<v Speaker 4>They're going to Hawaii, They're going to Japan. They're going

1464
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:22.239
<v Speaker 4>to these places where incredible artists are now tattooing people well,

1465
01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:25.360
<v Speaker 4>and like anything, our rise and Tide and all the

1466
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:28.599
<v Speaker 4>rest of it. When standards come up, it's not acceptable

1467
01:05:28.639 --> 01:05:30.559
<v Speaker 4>now to be doing the panther down the arm anymore,

1468
01:05:31.039 --> 01:05:34.639
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's really fucking not. You've seen lads like

1469
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:37.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, surely Mike Tyson you know, went off and

1470
01:05:37.800 --> 01:05:40.920
<v Speaker 4>got the fucking tribal like. He was the king of

1471
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 4>shit tattoos at the time, getting his face tone with

1472
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.920
<v Speaker 4>a tribal tattoo like and not getting a lasered off

1473
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:48.880
<v Speaker 4>because it's like, well it is, but it is, I suppose.

1474
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:52.480
<v Speaker 4>But you're in a place now where And I'm fascinated

1475
01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:54.840
<v Speaker 4>by him. And I remember going to convention a couple

1476
01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:57.480
<v Speaker 4>of years ago because I was in Dublin and I

1477
01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 4>had a pass because I knew one of the guys

1478
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:01.800
<v Speaker 4>was tattooing in there, and I remember he wanted to.

1479
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.199
<v Speaker 4>I never thought about tattoo artists like, I just thought

1480
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:05.639
<v Speaker 4>you were born a brilliant artist.

1481
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:06.199
<v Speaker 3>He wasn't.

1482
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:08.800
<v Speaker 4>He had to train at drawing. Yeah, I never he

1483
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:10.880
<v Speaker 4>thought about it like that before. I was like, Jesus,

1484
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:13.440
<v Speaker 4>what an uphill fucking struggled to do. But the same

1485
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:16.239
<v Speaker 4>guy's madgineto tattoos his face and nick and head tattoos

1486
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:16.880
<v Speaker 4>and everything like that.

1487
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:21.440
<v Speaker 3>So but it was it was amazing to see.

1488
01:06:21.639 --> 01:06:24.159
<v Speaker 4>They had this thing where they hung a curtain down

1489
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:25.760
<v Speaker 4>the middle of a guy and he sat on a

1490
01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 4>chair and the description was to draw an alternate body

1491
01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:35.880
<v Speaker 4>organ and two artists incredible artists on either side of

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01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:40.920
<v Speaker 4>the curtain got to draw what they tattooers man tattooed

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01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 4>this guy in front of for reals both but both

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01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:47.480
<v Speaker 4>both people, You and I would probably let them without

1495
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:49.760
<v Speaker 4>even thinking because they were that good. Like one guy

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01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:51.679
<v Speaker 4>did full on engine do you know what I mean?

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01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 4>On one side the other guy did I think he did,

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01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:57.679
<v Speaker 4>or like he did much more realistic but incredible. The

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01:06:57.719 --> 01:06:59.519
<v Speaker 4>way they stitched and then they took away the curtain

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01:06:59.519 --> 01:07:02.599
<v Speaker 4>and stitched together both of them. It was incredible what

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01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.440
<v Speaker 4>they did. But you're looking going, Okay, that is a

1502
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:11.000
<v Speaker 4>fucking masterpiece. Now fuck it too, at the same time

1503
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:11.920
<v Speaker 4>because you look down and go.

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01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes, just I suppose it's all right.

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01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:16.360
<v Speaker 4>But I think, I think when it gets to a

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01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:18.239
<v Speaker 4>certain point for a lot of people, Like there's a

1507
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:20.920
<v Speaker 4>guy playing rugby for Ireland called Mackanson and he is

1508
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:26.480
<v Speaker 4>a hilariously funny cunt, and he he made a vow

1509
01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:29.280
<v Speaker 4>that if he got to pick picked on the World

1510
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:32.639
<v Speaker 4>Cup team or whatever, he would within one of the

1511
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:34.880
<v Speaker 4>six nations, he would get the coach's face tattooed on

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01:07:34.920 --> 01:07:37.920
<v Speaker 4>his arms. And the coach is notably hard man who

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01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 4>doesn't have any tattoos, and he got a tattoo of

1514
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.440
<v Speaker 4>a really it looks shite like and he sent it

1515
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:47.000
<v Speaker 4>to him and apparently he left him. He left the

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01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.440
<v Speaker 4>scene with two blue ticks and didn't reply for a

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01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:52.199
<v Speaker 4>day and a half. And he's he's notably a scary

1518
01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:54.800
<v Speaker 4>human like. He says, it was the worst team I have.

1519
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:57.519
<v Speaker 4>It was the worst decision of my life. But since then,

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01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:59.159
<v Speaker 4>I've got a load of ship tattoos since.

1521
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:00.960
<v Speaker 3>And it's just throw it on the pile.

1522
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:04.599
<v Speaker 4>But it's it's it fits his personality. He's a goofy,

1523
01:08:04.679 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 4>funny guess cunt, you know what I mean? Where he's

1524
01:08:07.119 --> 01:08:09.719
<v Speaker 4>got these and it's all I should look at. I

1525
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:12.280
<v Speaker 4>got a fucking missile down my fucking forearm, and I've

1526
01:08:12.280 --> 01:08:15.159
<v Speaker 4>got a fucking fish over this one and picture of

1527
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:16.640
<v Speaker 4>me coach on me arse like.

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01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:18.640
<v Speaker 2>So let me let me let me ask you a

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01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:20.760
<v Speaker 2>question for a finish to this bit, Tom, right, we

1530
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:22.960
<v Speaker 2>started coming in by saying that neither of us had

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01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:28.079
<v Speaker 2>any tattoos. You know, the theory is good right now,

1532
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:30.199
<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that there's some listeners to the Tommentarry

1533
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Show who actually might be tattoo artists that could give

1534
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:34.279
<v Speaker 2>us a bit of a discount, because that's another thing. Tom,

1535
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:35.399
<v Speaker 2>This shit ain't cheap.

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01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I know it's not cheap. Arms like it's anyway.

1537
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:43.600
<v Speaker 2>So if you were going to get something tattooed on

1538
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>your good self there, buddy, what would it be?

1539
01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:47.079
<v Speaker 1>And I'll give you mine.

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01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:53.239
<v Speaker 4>I honestly, I think far the crack. And because it's

1541
01:08:53.279 --> 01:08:57.520
<v Speaker 4>been around for so long, I genuinely think I'll probably

1542
01:08:57.520 --> 01:08:58.039
<v Speaker 4>get the Tom and.

1543
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:01.319
<v Speaker 3>Jerry show logo. No, there's no joke.

1544
01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:02.359
<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty good.

1545
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it's been it's it's been in our lives

1546
01:09:05.199 --> 01:09:07.399
<v Speaker 4>for so long that we probably go. It would make

1547
01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:09.520
<v Speaker 4>sense to me to get it done because there's like

1548
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:10.880
<v Speaker 4>what else I'm not going to get.

1549
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:13.800
<v Speaker 3>A team because that's just like a no guy.

1550
01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:15.439
<v Speaker 4>He would be actually played for a monster and got

1551
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:20.039
<v Speaker 4>drunk and got his full number, full size number tattooed

1552
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:20.520
<v Speaker 4>on his back.

1553
01:09:21.239 --> 01:09:23.000
<v Speaker 3>He went on to be a very successful singer.

1554
01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Barry Murphy, he showed me one day, went Jesus And

1555
01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:28.319
<v Speaker 4>it was at the time had he got it done

1556
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.079
<v Speaker 4>like collegiate style, like it normally is on the back

1557
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:31.600
<v Speaker 4>of a jersey. But at the time they were going

1558
01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.159
<v Speaker 4>through a mid two thousand space where all the numbers

1559
01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:37.239
<v Speaker 4>on their jerseys were kind of done in spiky tribal style.

1560
01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:41.159
<v Speaker 4>Now looks like at one and three in red.

1561
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:43.399
<v Speaker 3>It's not good. It's in it.

1562
01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:43.920
<v Speaker 1>It in't it?

1563
01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:47.199
<v Speaker 2>The Tom and Jerry logo, of course, there by the wonderful.

1564
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Could he tattoo me? If I got rob a tattooing?

1565
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:52.560
<v Speaker 4>Could he tattoo me?

1566
01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:55.600
<v Speaker 3>I wonder? I don't see why not give it a go?

1567
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you want to go for myself, Tom for

1568
01:09:57.800 --> 01:10:00.039
<v Speaker 2>a finish. And it's the kind of thing that I

1569
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.399
<v Speaker 2>always seen people with it. And I'll be like, why

1570
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:05.119
<v Speaker 2>would you need that? You know the way people would

1571
01:10:05.159 --> 01:10:08.239
<v Speaker 2>say tattooed their their kids birthdays and things like this

1572
01:10:08.319 --> 01:10:11.520
<v Speaker 2>on themselves, Like now, why would you need that?

1573
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Face towards enemy? You get face towards enemy, and you're fuck.

1574
01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:16.439
<v Speaker 4>No.

1575
01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I as I roll into my mid forties and the

1576
01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:22.920
<v Speaker 2>memory gets starting to get fucking the memory is full.

1577
01:10:23.960 --> 01:10:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Having my children's birthday is tattooed on me might not

1578
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:29.359
<v Speaker 2>be the fucking worst thing I could have. And I'll

1579
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:30.920
<v Speaker 2>tell you what else I put it on there? Throw

1580
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:34.800
<v Speaker 2>on wedding anniversaries and me mom's birthday.

1581
01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Tom wilerrat why don't you tattoo tattoo.

1582
01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:41.600
<v Speaker 2>On me, like when the NCT is due, because if

1583
01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:44.520
<v Speaker 2>you ask me any of that ship rolling, Yeah, when's

1584
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:45.000
<v Speaker 2>the transport?

1585
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Fucking hang on?

1586
01:10:46.159 --> 01:10:47.760
<v Speaker 3>Do you know what we'll do? You know we'll do.

1587
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:51.359
<v Speaker 4>I can start this rat we can get I create

1588
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:53.920
<v Speaker 4>a link tree, right, a link tree, and basically it's

1589
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:56.479
<v Speaker 4>just a landing page and you can put in a

1590
01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:59.439
<v Speaker 4>whole list of all those things you need linked to

1591
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:02.720
<v Speaker 4>Google cannger, and we'll create a QR code that we

1592
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:04.840
<v Speaker 4>can get tattooed somewhere on you and you can just

1593
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.520
<v Speaker 4>put the phone on it whenever you need it and

1594
01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:10.119
<v Speaker 4>it'll have all that shit in there.

1595
01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:13.119
<v Speaker 2>And QR code is cool. That'd be a code is

1596
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:14.840
<v Speaker 2>cool time. But like what happens is if my age

1597
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:16.520
<v Speaker 2>and starts a saga wee but and all of a sudden,

1598
01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.840
<v Speaker 2>that QR code sends me to a fucking Lost Profits

1599
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 2>fan club website.

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01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was a It's never too late for us anyway,

1601
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:27.880
<v Speaker 4>jar because the out lad who would be unquestionably holy man,

1602
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:30.800
<v Speaker 4>not the tattoo on yourself.

1603
01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:32.640
<v Speaker 3>It's against God, but maybe it is. I don't know,

1604
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:33.119
<v Speaker 3>but he.

1605
01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:39.039
<v Speaker 4>He must have been sixty five sixty seven, maybe decided

1606
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:42.239
<v Speaker 4>gone to fuck for the crack and he got a

1607
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:45.039
<v Speaker 4>tattoo on his forearm and it was the out one's name,

1608
01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 4>because you know what, it was maybe time to make

1609
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:48.239
<v Speaker 4>it a serious goal things.

1610
01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:51.119
<v Speaker 1>I suppose that's yeah here.

1611
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I think that was her joke because she was like,

1612
01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:55.199
<v Speaker 4>oh yeh, Jesus Christ, what is he doing.

1613
01:11:55.760 --> 01:11:57.680
<v Speaker 3>She was like, you're too old for a mid like crisis.

1614
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.199
<v Speaker 4>But I suppose in one way, it's nice to you're

1615
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:01.800
<v Speaker 4>committed to the situation now at.

1616
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Least yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1617
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:04.760
<v Speaker 2>The only other funny thing that he could get in

1618
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.439
<v Speaker 2>his arm there if you say, ah, fuck it go on, yeah,

1619
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:09.560
<v Speaker 2>tattoo that on.

1620
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I like that. Maybe a phrase, a phrase to use

1621
01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:13.720
<v Speaker 3>it like this.

1622
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:16.079
<v Speaker 4>I saw a sign the other day, beautifully done sign,

1623
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:17.199
<v Speaker 4>and it was in I thought it was in a

1624
01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:19.520
<v Speaker 4>movie or TV show and it was really nicely done

1625
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:21.159
<v Speaker 4>and oak and everyone you're looking at it going, oh,

1626
01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:23.439
<v Speaker 4>that's a nice looking sign with a nice post and

1627
01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:25.640
<v Speaker 4>everything on it, and when you look closely at it said,

1628
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.439
<v Speaker 4>this sign means absolutely nothing at all.

1629
01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:28.319
<v Speaker 1>And I like that.

1630
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:31.159
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I'd like to get that keep walking.

1631
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Well came here if ever we needed to hear from

1632
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:36.520
<v Speaker 2>the Tom and Jerry Show audience about tattooings and their

1633
01:12:36.560 --> 01:12:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and their opinions and indeed the amount of them that

1634
01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:42.840
<v Speaker 2>they have let us know in the comments. You'll find

1635
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:45.880
<v Speaker 2>us on Instagram. It is where you'll get us at

1636
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Tom and Jerry Show, Tom with a T, Jerry with

1637
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:50.640
<v Speaker 2>a G. You can follow us all on our various

1638
01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:53.920
<v Speaker 2>accounts there. I'm sure you'll find us not too far afield,

1639
01:12:54.279 --> 01:12:56.760
<v Speaker 2>but definitely we're doing our best to not just put

1640
01:12:56.800 --> 01:12:59.600
<v Speaker 2>up our Tom and Jerry content, but also just like

1641
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:01.560
<v Speaker 2>fun ship for men.

1642
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:05.039
<v Speaker 4>People you're on fire lately and anything anything I find

1643
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:08.239
<v Speaker 4>that is quintessentially oz that's on brand that just makes

1644
01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:10.640
<v Speaker 4>us laugh. I sent it over to Jerry and he's on.

1645
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Fire with you.

1646
01:13:11.560 --> 01:13:13.439
<v Speaker 3>Did you put up one yesterday?

1647
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:18.119
<v Speaker 1>It was.

1648
01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:23.279
<v Speaker 4>It was texting, wife, have you used my good my

1649
01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:26.800
<v Speaker 4>good conditioner? A picture of this guy that looked if

1650
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:31.279
<v Speaker 4>you imagine Kenny Kenny Rodgers air blow like air right

1651
01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:33.840
<v Speaker 4>into a pure fluff ball. And it was underneath the

1652
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:38.439
<v Speaker 4>text us my balls we essentially brilliant stuff.

1653
01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:42.159
<v Speaker 2>With one just just landed in from young William Ryan

1654
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:44.319
<v Speaker 2>there sent us in a picture of a man who

1655
01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:46.479
<v Speaker 2>passed away today, too late for us to mention him.

1656
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 2>On the show, Bill Oddie passed away and yeah, there

1657
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:51.119
<v Speaker 2>you go, and there's Bill Oddie as a young man.

1658
01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:54.159
<v Speaker 2>William comments that he looks like Tom on his confirmation day.

1659
01:13:54.319 --> 01:13:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tweet that one, Ryan, thank you very

1660
01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:56.159
<v Speaker 2>much for that.

1661
01:13:56.199 --> 01:13:57.319
<v Speaker 1>What else we want is find.

1662
01:13:57.159 --> 01:13:59.840
<v Speaker 4>People to do as I look at the lads, go

1663
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.279
<v Speaker 4>hit follow on whatever platform you're on. And if you

1664
01:14:02.279 --> 01:14:04.760
<v Speaker 4>can't hit the reminder belt because it pings straight into

1665
01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:06.960
<v Speaker 4>your phone or device, or maybe you'll just listen to

1666
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:10.800
<v Speaker 4>us on the car every single Thursday morning. If you

1667
01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:13.159
<v Speaker 4>can't give us a rating, two fair folks, everybody you're

1668
01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:15.359
<v Speaker 4>rating every single week and keeping it at five stars.

1669
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:17.800
<v Speaker 3>It's tremendous and makes the more visible to everybody else.

1670
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:20.800
<v Speaker 4>I want to hear what tattoos you've gotten, what tattoos

1671
01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:23.279
<v Speaker 4>you're thinking again, and what shit tattoos you've gotten. You

1672
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:26.279
<v Speaker 4>can pose them in the comments, probably under Spotify is fine,

1673
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:30.479
<v Speaker 4>but we'll definitely see them on Instagram. Also, did you

1674
01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:31.119
<v Speaker 4>know who like?

1675
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean opinions on that man? What a legend.

1676
01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:37.039
<v Speaker 4>But maybe we could leave it up if some of

1677
01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:38.880
<v Speaker 4>the guests they send us on another legend too.

1678
01:14:38.880 --> 01:14:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't mind seeing legends that they've come across.

1679
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.399
<v Speaker 4>There's a few form of kind of what the fucks

1680
01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:45.600
<v Speaker 4>that we've come across.

1681
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:48.079
<v Speaker 2>All any week we can take an error out of

1682
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:50.439
<v Speaker 2>the research for this Sho'll just say, look at this

1683
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:51.039
<v Speaker 2>got sent in.

1684
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:51.760
<v Speaker 1>We'll take that.

1685
01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:53.520
<v Speaker 3>I like it because you know what it is.

1686
01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:56.079
<v Speaker 4>It's already going to the source of the people that

1687
01:14:56.119 --> 01:14:57.600
<v Speaker 4>are kind of into the things that we come out with.

1688
01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:59.520
<v Speaker 4>So if you have a legend that would make fit

1689
01:14:59.560 --> 01:15:01.680
<v Speaker 4>a good this led, send it along where you at

1690
01:15:01.680 --> 01:15:02.560
<v Speaker 4>the game at the weekend.

1691
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:04.680
<v Speaker 3>What are your feelings on it? Are you from Kerry?

1692
01:15:04.760 --> 01:15:07.239
<v Speaker 4>Are you thinking fuck Mayo? And if you are this

1693
01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:10.439
<v Speaker 4>whole show, let us let us know other than that

1694
01:15:10.520 --> 01:15:13.359
<v Speaker 4>you're I have a as we both know, a go to

1695
01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:16.239
<v Speaker 4>get into a fucking fisticufs with. So other than that,

1696
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:18.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna have to head on out of the range

1697
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:19.239
<v Speaker 4>Mayo for some.

1698
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:20.920
<v Speaker 10>Help.

1699
01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:21.439
<v Speaker 4>Then
