Speaker 1: Tom.
Speaker 2: I know I get accused every now and then. I've
Speaker 2: been old fashioned and stuck in my ways and I
Speaker 2: try not to be. But every now and then, you know,
Speaker 2: I can't but help remark on things go on with me?
Speaker 3: Go on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you doing? Everybody?
Speaker 2: By the way, welcome to the Tom and Jerry Show.
Speaker 2: I'm Jerry McBride. That's Tom.
Speaker 1: O'manny.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I've seen today?
Speaker 1: And I shouldn't have. I should it shouldn't have been.
Speaker 2: Remarkable in today's day and age twenty twenty six, but
Speaker 2: here we are. I saw a woman driving a bin lurie.
Speaker 1: Do you know what now?
Speaker 3: I there?
Speaker 4: Yes, I remember the first woman I ever saw driving
Speaker 4: a truck.
Speaker 3: We were laying concrete.
Speaker 4: I was about thirteen years of age, and honestly it
Speaker 4: was if a fucking alien was driving the truck, it
Speaker 4: would would have been less of a surprise, less of
Speaker 4: a price.
Speaker 3: And she wasn't, remember, I can remember to this day.
Speaker 4: She wasn't what you would associate with concrete truck drivers,
Speaker 4: if you know what I mean. She didn't get out
Speaker 4: with the sleeves cut off her shirt and fucking buzz
Speaker 4: cut like she was, and fine looking woman got out
Speaker 4: and she was like, all right, let's let's get this board.
Speaker 3: And then she went, she went.
Speaker 4: But it was do you know what I'm saying? More
Speaker 4: and more of and it's gone very cool. Is a
Speaker 4: huge influx of young women driver driving tractors.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, Oh I'm okay, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna pull the lady over and say what
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 4: Ladies?
Speaker 1: Weakness?
Speaker 3: What's a lady like you doing in a lorry like this?
Speaker 2: Do whatever you want? And it's delightful.
Speaker 1: We live in a world like that.
Speaker 2: But I can't help, but I just gotta tell you it.
Speaker 2: Just for a little split second, I was like, huh,
Speaker 2: quite the choice. There a bin lorry and not just
Speaker 2: a bit of lorry, Tom, the brown bin lorry.
Speaker 3: That's already. Woman.
Speaker 1: You're just driving around and stink from one end of
Speaker 1: the day to the.
Speaker 4: Next, and that gets into the into their skin and everything.
Speaker 4: But do you know what it is? It's a well
Speaker 4: pain job, is what it is. And you'd often find
Speaker 4: even it's not that you're stuck in the mode out
Speaker 4: ladder and looking at women would see a woman truck
Speaker 4: driver and go huh, chrish, do you know, it's it's
Speaker 4: just an odd thing to speak like.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of.
Speaker 4: Delivering stuff to a site one time and your man
Speaker 4: had his six year old young fla on a digger
Speaker 4: loads and stuff and load gifted and I remember going, what
Speaker 4: the fuck? That's that's cool?
Speaker 1: It just catches your eye.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean because if this is your first
Speaker 2: time listening to the Tom and Jerry Show, we're probably
Speaker 2: not making a great just two lads going like jesz,
Speaker 2: you never see you never know what?
Speaker 1: I saw a woman? Do you know what?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 3: Weird?
Speaker 4: Late, it's interesting and weird, and it's long, long may continue.
Speaker 2: It's it's traditional, traditionally a male centric profession, the bin
Speaker 2: men of this world. But I would recuse collectors of
Speaker 2: this world.
Speaker 3: Do you know what there?
Speaker 1: I said.
Speaker 4: I've said this many times when it comes to sports.
Speaker 4: So many sports are missing out when it comes to
Speaker 4: the women's side of things or men they are missing
Speaker 4: out getting men into women's side of things, like the
Speaker 4: tennis is huge now for women, the UFC now is
Speaker 4: huge now for women. Guinness drinking women. I'll tell you
Speaker 4: one thing. We need to more women block layers, but
Speaker 4: we need more fellas doing primarily women's jobs. Do you
Speaker 4: know more fella hairdressers? But what I mean is the
Speaker 4: same fellow that could come out of a bin Lorry
Speaker 4: go in and cut a woman's hair fair good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just come in and go oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's the goal is wide open there any anybody
Speaker 2: this world, you know if you just decide all of
Speaker 2: a sudden that you know, I'm going to I'm going
Speaker 2: to bust through gender norms here and go go work
Speaker 2: in the slaughter house or whatever it might be.
Speaker 4: Do you know some people are cut out different ways,
Speaker 4: and I think it's a lot of time And said,
Speaker 4: if that woman was raised around trucks, she's a.
Speaker 3: Better truck driver than you or I would ever be.
Speaker 3: You know that can away it's.
Speaker 1: In you to say the four cars here, Tom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wouldn't hold that against her either, like that
Speaker 4: cars too bigin my As you speak about you know
Speaker 4: a woman, I just just as.
Speaker 3: We're about the press record, I heard a.
Speaker 4: Screech from what I assumed I was with my wife,
Speaker 4: and I was correct. I'm like, christ if I had
Speaker 4: to deal with something now. She had just dozed off
Speaker 4: on the couch after we're finally finishing the final room here,
Speaker 4: final room in the house chairs nearly there, so she
Speaker 4: she was bed from it, and one of the ghats decided,
Speaker 4: I'm going to come all the way down and creepishly
Speaker 4: breathe against the window of the to sit room and
Speaker 4: just steer at the woman indoors, and that's what the
Speaker 4: screech was.
Speaker 3: So we leave. That's the way after.
Speaker 2: I don't like go to the best of the times.
Speaker 2: And if I saw a goat eye look at me
Speaker 2: through the window, I would definitely think that I was horst.
Speaker 2: And holy shit, isn't that hell a segment? Isn't that
Speaker 2: a hell of a segment? Into the segment of the
Speaker 2: Tom and Jerry Show, The Weekly?
Speaker 1: What have You?
Speaker 3: The Green and Red May. I can hear it still.
Speaker 4: It's I gotta tell you, Craggy Bogland, It's Tall Majesty
Speaker 4: killed Goannger.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that song before.
Speaker 4: How the fuck you saw doctors just twenty thirty years old? Shirt?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who do you think was requesting that at
Speaker 2: a night club in Monaghan?
Speaker 1: Tom?
Speaker 4: No, But at the same time, you never just put
Speaker 4: on Spotify and just throw on some of the Irish hits,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just let it, let it select,
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden the saw doctors fucking bail
Speaker 4: and bail and hey.
Speaker 2: I would have always had the saw Doctors down as
Speaker 2: a goalwy band on that all En seventeen. I had
Speaker 2: no idea they branched out into other chnic.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
Speaker 4: The west, the west west of our not clear, not Limerick,
Speaker 4: not Kerry, Sligo, Mayo lead from risk Common.
Speaker 3: They're kind of maybe the more common.
Speaker 4: They're all they're all in it together, if you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, A bit like now again each other.
Speaker 4: They fucking hate each other right, but tis tis conductor
Speaker 4: to hell, you know what I mean? That is their
Speaker 4: area so like to be Galway people who were just
Speaker 4: as happy. And I'm no doubt there's one or two
Speaker 4: lads probably from Mayo or whatever front in the in
Speaker 4: the band. Do you know, like bet we better say
Speaker 4: what the week I have you is here now for
Speaker 4: the three people. I don't know how you're listening to
Speaker 4: the Tom and Jerry Show and not know how went
Speaker 4: down on Sunday. Yeah, so as it happened yesterday, as
Speaker 4: we're recording yesterday, history was made. History History's made every momentary,
Speaker 4: but true history was made. Decibel levels were apparently recorded
Speaker 4: at an all time record high when the whole of
Speaker 4: Castle Bar, Westport, Belahedrine, Foxford, all them places had infiltrated
Speaker 4: Crow Parks to field the Dreams to enter their eleventh
Speaker 4: All Ireland Final in seventy five years against the men
Speaker 4: of Kerry yesterday and against all belief, against all the
Speaker 4: bookies odds, Mayo went on to win the All Ireland
Speaker 4: Final in for Kayley Football yesterday.
Speaker 2: We everybody loves an underdog story and everybody loves a
Speaker 2: story story. So even if you're not a sports fan,
Speaker 2: and I have proved under this show that not many
Speaker 2: times I watched this game yesterday, and I'll be honest
Speaker 2: with you, I did want Mayo to win. I have
Speaker 2: a lot of friends from Mayo. Well, like you know,
Speaker 2: I say friends know them to see Tom Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know I would wish them well and enough
Speaker 2: is enough. But at the same time, if Kerry had
Speaker 2: trends to them, I would have laughed at that too.
Speaker 2: But as it happened, Mayo, as you say yourself, after
Speaker 2: our seventy five year drought lifted the Sam Maguire Cup
Speaker 2: and if that's not word of a segment on one
Speaker 2: of Ireland's least listen to podcasts, Tom, I don't excuse yourself.
Speaker 4: Where we're in the top ten percent of some weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are in the top ten percent. Now what
Speaker 3: that what that qualification is? I don't know. Both.
Speaker 4: We're in the top top ten percent of comedy podcasts
Speaker 4: in Ireland on a regular basis.
Speaker 3: So stick tack in your pipe and smoke.
Speaker 4: Some of these are just jokes, buddy, Yeah, I know,
Speaker 4: I know it is true, but I tell you there was.
Speaker 4: I didn't shed it here, but there was a shininess
Speaker 4: in my eye. Have a lot of grawl from Mayo,
Speaker 4: we Honeymoon and Mayo. I was almost in the Hardy books.
Speaker 4: Do you know a lot of friends?
Speaker 1: You were the fifth Hardy book, like you were.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think I was going to be a
Speaker 4: hardy book, but it was. It fell around the time
Speaker 4: of My My My Onlymoon.
Speaker 3: We actually drove through.
Speaker 4: Swinford, which is Castletown, yes in the show, and they
Speaker 4: were filming it and I was going and attach such
Speaker 4: could do you want to do? You want to pull over?
Speaker 4: Because I'd been best I can't really do you want
Speaker 4: to pull over and see said, we'll be here all
Speaker 4: day if.
Speaker 3: I am in it. I don't mind him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you say that now, But you know that a
Speaker 4: wise man drives on, drives on to the destination. They're
Speaker 4: a wise man drives on. I think that's why your
Speaker 4: marriage is lested less than this long, because I had Yeah,
Speaker 4: it would.
Speaker 3: Have been different.
Speaker 4: Some of the wildest gigs have ever done, some stories,
Speaker 4: legendary stories out of gigs have ever So I have
Speaker 4: a grow for the place I once bought an envelop
Speaker 4: a woman with a beard in Foxford.
Speaker 3: As you do. And these these are these.
Speaker 4: Are just things that And that's not to say I
Speaker 4: don't I don't like Erry. I don't have friends from Kerry,
Speaker 4: but they had on this occasion. They've had enough, They've
Speaker 4: had enough for fox They're always there thereabouts. But no,
Speaker 4: Mayo went on two shall we said, you're as everybody's saying,
Speaker 4: break the course, break the hood.
Speaker 2: Break the break the break the usual, that they had
Speaker 2: been under it for the past seventy five years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that you know, we're not a very sporting podcast,
Speaker 2: but we wish Mayo all the best in their future. Endeavors,
Speaker 2: you know, so we were wondering about what we could
Speaker 2: talk about for this. There was a couple of other
Speaker 2: famous sporting droughts from around the world. The the Chicago Cubs,
Speaker 2: I want.
Speaker 4: To say to one hundred and eight years in two
Speaker 4: hundred and eight years with clubs I remember correctly was
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, and it was on the same weekend that
Speaker 4: another drought was not just a drought, but a non
Speaker 4: event that ever happened happened. Ireland played the All Blacks
Speaker 4: this New Zeas and All Blacks and rugby in Soldier
Speaker 4: Field in Chicago. The place was already bonkers that weekend
Speaker 4: because the Cubs, the first time in one hundred and
Speaker 4: eight years a won the World Series. They call it
Speaker 4: the World Series year, but nobody else gets to play
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see teams from Germany in there, so you don't.
Speaker 3: Know, you don't.
Speaker 2: But even even recently, Tom, we had the New Year
Speaker 2: or Convix I believe, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Time in a long long time they did. They did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did basketball right, the basketball in basketball.
Speaker 3: So it's nice to see.
Speaker 4: It's nice to see a people like this, As they say,
Speaker 4: it's good for sport.
Speaker 1: It's good for everybody.
Speaker 3: It's a great story and if it's good for you.
Speaker 4: Oh, I chatting with her own Colugan of the Hardy
Speaker 4: Books yesterday, congratulated because I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 4: It's party if us standing here all just staring at
Speaker 4: each other, not even shouting, crying. This was an hour
Speaker 4: after the match, just standing there looking at you other,
Speaker 4: crying for you know, entire lives have been gone and
Speaker 4: passed without.
Speaker 3: All you ever seeing it.
Speaker 4: Seventy five years like it's seven if you were seventy
Speaker 4: four years when you croaked, which is that You know
Speaker 4: it's an all right innings. It's not a great one,
Speaker 4: but it's not you have never seen as a male person,
Speaker 4: you won't have seen this.
Speaker 3: You know this this thing.
Speaker 4: Like there's very few people who saw the first one
Speaker 4: or the last one. I said, they won three up
Speaker 4: until then, but.
Speaker 3: Their last one.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at it, because this is what
Speaker 1: did get their interested.
Speaker 2: If you if you've listened to the Tom and Jerry
Speaker 2: Show at all, you know that whereas we don't really
Speaker 2: care for sport.
Speaker 5: We fucking love pishugs, we love love horses hexes and
Speaker 5: that invokes the rat of the we folk ing it
Speaker 5: all and.
Speaker 2: There are stories about the male course and how the
Speaker 2: team have come to go seventy five years without an.
Speaker 1: All Ireland win.
Speaker 2: And these stories are cute and add to the storytelling
Speaker 2: of it all. Tom, but we're gonna pull at them
Speaker 2: a little bit here and maybe we might think maybe
Speaker 2: they are just that. I mean, look at it.
Speaker 4: It stacks up as a great story. So to give
Speaker 4: people the insight in case you were going what, I
Speaker 4: never what, or you're going no, I'm with it, and
Speaker 4: you have some which way the way the way it's
Speaker 4: the way it's told and how it transpired. And I
Speaker 4: previously mentioned Foxford captain something brother of the Argentinian. He
Speaker 4: was a happen and he what's he? It's a great village.
Speaker 4: You've got a little museum. I forget his name. A
Speaker 4: man from Foxford went on to be I don't know.
Speaker 4: Is he admiral of like the Argentinian Navy or something
Speaker 4: brilliant like that. Anyway, another story for another time. But
Speaker 4: this incident happened in nineteen fifty one after Mayo had
Speaker 4: beaten mead In to win the Samaguara Cup. And this
Speaker 4: is their third time ever win it, so you know,
Speaker 4: they weren't peppered with fucking all urns either at the time,
Speaker 4: so no, it was a great affair.
Speaker 3: So they made it back.
Speaker 4: Like all crowds do on a big, boisterous bus. Now
Speaker 4: the argument is worthy in the bus were they in
Speaker 4: an open.
Speaker 1: Top within the back of a trail.
Speaker 3: Or a lorry like you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: But they passed the funeral procession in the village of Oxford,
Speaker 4: and essentially they were you know, your respect would be
Speaker 4: take off your caps, because they probably all had flap
Speaker 4: caps back then. You know, turn down the fucking music,
Speaker 4: cap out your pipe, you know, pause, spotify whatever it
Speaker 4: is that they're doing, you know what I mean, Taylor
Speaker 4: Swift doesn't need to be blaring through Oxford at anytime,
Speaker 4: let alone join in the funeral there.
Speaker 3: They did none of those things. They did nothing. They
Speaker 3: didn't quieten down.
Speaker 4: They were probably drinking all the way from you know,
Speaker 4: Dublin to the west of Ireland, which probably took about
Speaker 4: fucking seven hours back there, and by all accounts, an
Speaker 4: outraged priest reportedly JESU this fell had some if it
Speaker 4: he's something not only badness in him, but it's some
Speaker 4: imagination to say, I will, you'll, I put the hecks
Speaker 4: on you so that you'll never win an All Ireland,
Speaker 4: Mayo will never win and I Roland while every one
Speaker 4: of those players are alive. Now that's a I don't yeah,
Speaker 4: that's some don't you put that hit on me, Ricky Bobby? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: so it is, I mean, and like that. They had
Speaker 4: since then up until now, jer did eleven defeats. No.
Speaker 4: Thirteen finals technic eleven finals, we'll say, but they had
Speaker 4: two replays, so they thirteen matches.
Speaker 2: Lost it every year since since then technically speaking, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, eleven finals and with two replays, least thirteen final
Speaker 4: matches they lost or didn't win unless they did would
Speaker 4: have drawn two of them. And they suffered a freak
Speaker 4: in the twenty sixteen final that was the year of
Speaker 4: the All Blacks and all that, where they end up
Speaker 4: scoring two own goals, own goals, I'm shooting off voter
Speaker 4: feet with the fucking shotgun. That was against Dublin and
Speaker 4: then the last lad Paddy Prendergast and Doctor Mick was
Speaker 4: one of the last, but he was one of the
Speaker 4: most outspoken and talked an awful lot about it. He
Speaker 4: died in twenty twenty one, and then the final surviving
Speaker 4: squad member died in twenty twenty. I thought it was
Speaker 4: last year, but it was twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: It says year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was last year, which again Elong
Speaker 4: getting this story there doctor Mick Loft as he passed away.
Speaker 4: So that left it with absolutely coming into twenty twenty
Speaker 4: six final, they were left with no surviving members of
Speaker 4: that score left left unplanet Earth and I don't know right.
Speaker 4: So sometimes like sport, when you get to the finals
Speaker 4: of things, what you're normally left normally left with are
Speaker 4: the two best fittest teams in it, the two mentally
Speaker 4: toughest teams in it. Yes, and for a lot of
Speaker 4: teams like Mayo's, like Watford, shall we say, like Galway
Speaker 4: and you know in the other you know in in
Speaker 4: the Hurlan, their final had been the semi final if
Speaker 4: you get me, and they're already fucking bet before they
Speaker 4: get there, even though they have the physical prowess, they
Speaker 4: have the ability to get there, but you want But
Speaker 4: what you normally find is two teams who get there.
Speaker 4: A lot kill Kenny's Limericks Tipperaries.
Speaker 3: They have self.
Speaker 4: Belief and this is unbelievable thing. The mental game is
Speaker 4: an unbelievable thing. So I wonder, do you know because
Speaker 4: they've been there eleven times and like that in twenty
Speaker 4: sixteen scored two fucking on goals, Like you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a team that don't believe. They did
Speaker 4: not believe they were supposed to win or be there.
Speaker 4: But that team, Yes, today, after watching that match, they
Speaker 4: were down for me with the one five to one point.
Speaker 6: At one stage, I was watching it, watching it on
Speaker 6: the on the live blog on the phone and because
Speaker 6: there's out walking the dog and I looked at ten
Speaker 6: minutes in, I was like, lads, I thought you were
Speaker 6: going to make a game out of this.
Speaker 4: Well, they had the mental fortitude, as they're say in wrestling,
Speaker 4: to have the to hold in there, stem the flow
Speaker 4: and then turn the tide and end up winning the thing.
Speaker 4: And I wonder, right, there's times I'm not totally getting
Speaker 4: off the fence on this story, but do you think
Speaker 4: that the hohodo is gone even if they believed or
Speaker 4: didn't believe that, Well, the hoodoo is gone now, so
Speaker 4: let's go all in now. It does help that you've
Speaker 4: a new coach, you know what I mean. It does
Speaker 4: help that you've got a batch of players who haven't
Speaker 4: been tainted by the fucking.
Speaker 3: The failures in the past.
Speaker 4: They think they you know, they don't have that thank
Speaker 4: And there was one guy there now he wasn't playing.
Speaker 3: What's the name, o'shee.
Speaker 4: He's even he's a carry name, but he's not. He's
Speaker 4: he's been there a million times and never never done it.
Speaker 3: Now he was out.
Speaker 4: He wasn't in the game yesterday. But I wonder what
Speaker 4: is it was the who'd have gone on?
Speaker 2: That's that what I'm hearing from you, Tom, is if
Speaker 2: you believe you're cursed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I wonder if you believe your curse, your course, because
Speaker 4: some teams are course. Cork last year in the All
Speaker 4: Arn Final they were up by about six thirteen fucking
Speaker 4: points at halftime and in their head they were on
Speaker 4: the bus with the trophy all the way walking down
Speaker 4: fucking Grand Parade and Cork they forgot that there was
Speaker 4: a second fucking half in the match.
Speaker 3: Tipperary didn't tipper delighted to be there.
Speaker 4: When do you know what, We're actually still in this
Speaker 4: game and we're kind of shy all year.
Speaker 2: You know what, you know what I want before this
Speaker 2: day's outres I just want to get on the scoreboard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they fucking ended up beating by about thirteen
Speaker 4: fucking points because Cork ended up being so full of themselves.
Speaker 4: And we're on the bus and gone home and mentally
Speaker 4: so now the mental.
Speaker 2: Time I want to talk to about I want to
Speaker 2: talk to about this course because then we haven't We
Speaker 2: don't want to absolutely pass on Mayo's parade.
Speaker 3: But there's a fair.
Speaker 1: Degree of fucking waffle going on here.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 3: It is true because.
Speaker 4: I don't think even even Jorn I can't remember, but
Speaker 4: I watched it, yes, and I've seen a couple of
Speaker 4: clips of it back. But I don't even think Joran
Speaker 4: Jack Coyne, who is the coat or the captain is
Speaker 4: I don't think he mentioned it, do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? He gave this a very heartfelt standard speech
Speaker 4: and you're kind of going the captain even didn't even
Speaker 4: mention this seventy five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like what course here?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 4: Yeah? What I for all the rest of them because
Speaker 4: you you have to be cut throat. These guys are gone.
Speaker 4: You can all suck on the course that fucking last losers.
Speaker 4: I'm the fucking winning captain. I will never buy another
Speaker 4: drink in his fucking county.
Speaker 2: I'm getting a job as a sales rep for red
Speaker 2: Mills in the morning.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
Speaker 2: So here's the crack, though, the talk that the course
Speaker 2: was handed down by a priest doesn't really hold water. Now,
Speaker 2: a Catholic priest would not be one for issuing what
Speaker 2: it is for all intents and purposes of tom pagan.
Speaker 4: Course, pagan carry on, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Pagan carrying on, and and and and I.
Speaker 2: Can't see a priest came And I tell Dina, not
Speaker 2: one of you will ever see the winning of all
Speaker 2: Ireland again on account of what is you know, certainly
Speaker 2: a little bit of ignorance, but like.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one funeral lads.
Speaker 3: And also, I can promise you at the time one thing.
Speaker 3: Two things went hand in hand.
Speaker 4: Well, I was the Catholic Church and the GA went
Speaker 4: hand in hand.
Speaker 2: And if there was anything that the Catholic Church was
Speaker 2: gonna let slide, it's the mishaps of the GA.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing previously talked about. Prender Guest, Mister Prendergast,
Speaker 4: Paddy Prendegast. He was all over every sort of podcast
Speaker 4: and everything open right up till his dying day, and
Speaker 4: he couldn't recall it. He said, to be honest, I
Speaker 4: was down to deep in the truck, if you know
Speaker 4: what I mean to decide, we're hiding high on it.
Speaker 4: So I didn't really come across such thing. And it
Speaker 4: was never mentioned afterwards. And I mean that could be
Speaker 4: from one man. But here's where it gets interesting. A
Speaker 4: father Quinn was played in that game for male and
Speaker 4: a priest himself, back when priests were playing football. He
Speaker 4: played in that match and he completely poo poo, he went,
Speaker 4: not a bit of.
Speaker 1: It, not a bit of it.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 4: Well, it certainly didn't come back through any fellow I knew,
Speaker 4: and I would have known the priest that was if
Speaker 4: if in fact there even was a funeral that dager,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But you know, like that'd be the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that with records and one thing another, you could probably
Speaker 2: look that up fairly handy if you were so inclined.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: There is talk that this whole mention, of of course,
Speaker 2: only started to grow legs in the early two thousands. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's when not for nothing as well, our old
Speaker 2: friend the Internet gets into into play and people can
Speaker 2: chat and and Chinese wisper can spread an awful lot
Speaker 2: quicker when you've got the fucking horror box in front
Speaker 2: of you, rather than just local stories for local people.
Speaker 2: But I dare say, some little rumor or some little
Speaker 2: Scotch escaped containment. I became.
Speaker 1: The whole thing.
Speaker 4: What it is bounced around that it was the widow,
Speaker 4: which you could kind of, you know, if you're thinking
Speaker 4: about this in terms of a good story, the widow
Speaker 4: with the black lace around her face, and you know,
Speaker 4: and all the rest. But then I'm thinking, geezuz. I mean,
Speaker 4: they're die hard football fans. I'd say even she would
Speaker 4: have been happy enough with the win.
Speaker 2: If her husband is a Mayo man and he's in
Speaker 2: a coffin, then you know he's only sorry that he
Speaker 2: died before they've seen the game.
Speaker 4: And then for maybe people like you and me asking
Speaker 4: that question, going yeah, I don't know. If she's a
Speaker 4: Mayle woman of Fox for women, she probably delighted. The
Speaker 4: husband would have been delighted. Then the story grew legs
Speaker 4: and they were told then that always a traveling woman
Speaker 4: and traveling women would have been of they would add
Speaker 4: a hexy vibe about.
Speaker 8: Him back then.
Speaker 4: Aout them yeah yeah, yeah so and it there. It
Speaker 4: bounced back and forth in between this mystical priest. There
Speaker 4: was never a name on the priest. There was never
Speaker 4: a the like the wording was very, very harsh, yes,
Speaker 4: very harsh, all of you have to die before Mayo
Speaker 4: will see another Ireland gen like I wonder too sometimes
Speaker 4: when it comes to these things there and this is
Speaker 4: probably past me getting off the defense. Is there a
Speaker 4: bit of fucking crutched on under a situation too, like
Speaker 4: we're going why don't you fucking won anything in fucking
Speaker 4: sixty years?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Would you believe it on the day the last time?
Speaker 4: Like I wonder if you went around the world, or
Speaker 4: if you went around like counties, would you find parish
Speaker 4: teams that miraculously happened a similar thing like well this
Speaker 4: is a two times like apparently a priest to put
Speaker 4: a hecks on. They'd be first cousins my father, and
Speaker 4: they would they were a funeral something to do with
Speaker 4: the funeral going up the wrong way when you can't
Speaker 4: come up this way and the hecks are putting them
Speaker 4: and nothing give of it. I don't know if any
Speaker 4: Hicks was put on him at the time that would
Speaker 4: definitely have fallen out. Did happen, but that was about
Speaker 4: the extent of it.
Speaker 2: But this might be like the hecks that was put
Speaker 2: on me that said I would never see six foor
Speaker 2: tall Tom. You know, yeah, I'm sure I fucking ran
Speaker 2: a foul of somebody, somebody witchy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, yeah, he put on me I wanted
Speaker 4: to play corner over the Tipperary or that also never transpired.
Speaker 4: I know what which I must have upset back in
Speaker 4: the day.
Speaker 1: Would have nothing to do with their scalear talent.
Speaker 3: Would have to be no, no, no, no, have to be.
Speaker 2: Course was the reason why the Tom and Jerry Show
Speaker 2: hasn't cracked the top five percent podcasts in Ireland.
Speaker 4: Hex hex anybody wants, anybody wants to know about it,
Speaker 4: go back and find the p Shokes episode. And we
Speaker 4: probably maybe treaded too closely to the to the Nether
Speaker 4: World Secrets. I do think I think it was a
Speaker 4: bit of a crutch that was invented for the reason
Speaker 4: for failure and maybe could have been down to the
Speaker 4: fact that.
Speaker 3: They didn't have the mental fortitude.
Speaker 4: They probably didn't have the training programs that Dublin Kerry
Speaker 4: to some of the northern teams Corks, you know, the
Speaker 4: good football teams who actually had a training program that
Speaker 4: they put in place, and they didn't just swan around
Speaker 4: the place fucking feeling sorry for themselves that they couldn't
Speaker 4: pull the trigger and get rid of the bridesmaids.
Speaker 3: Stress.
Speaker 1: Let me let me yeah, I know that's hard. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you one.
Speaker 2: Here, Tom now before we will jump off and we
Speaker 2: let that we let you know. This episode drops on Thursday,
Speaker 2: Mayo is absolutely still going to be in the pub
Speaker 2: by then. So we have a couple of drinks. What
Speaker 2: do you think now of the male people you know,
Speaker 2: and I know a couple as well, and I know
Speaker 2: a couple of the same male people.
Speaker 1: Now that they've actually won the All Ireland, what do
Speaker 1: you think they're going to fucking winge about now?
Speaker 4: Now they wonder why they don't have any success in Hurland. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because you don't have a single fucking.
Speaker 3: Holder in your whole county.
Speaker 4: Alright, I'm sorry, let's but you would if you look
Speaker 4: for the on switch on a fucking early but I
Speaker 4: would say that is the next thing, if they're going
Speaker 4: to find a crutch for anything, don't make it another
Speaker 4: seventy five year fucking course, lets because nobody's fucking buying
Speaker 4: that one. Next Yeah, I would say we were probably
Speaker 4: all Mandela affected into it.
Speaker 3: After a while we were gone, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that classic seventy five year old.
Speaker 3: Seventy five year old.
Speaker 1: Of course, course your generations.
Speaker 4: Now came up in the nineties, and like so many things,
Speaker 4: if you don't actually ask a couple of questions, it's
Speaker 4: much easier and much more fun to go along with it.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, because what it did, jar was it told
Speaker 4: a story brilliantly and it culminated yesterday. Like I said,
Speaker 4: desperbel levels went above anything that was ever recorded and
Speaker 4: Growk Park for a match before that, there was grown
Speaker 4: men roaring, crying on their hands, blessing themselves. It was like,
Speaker 4: you know, it was like a one of those superchurches.
Speaker 3: You know, there was people fucking with hands.
Speaker 4: It was like the fucking one of your man olds
Speaker 4: and Joe Olson just happing people on the head, just
Speaker 4: gone feel the power of Jesus. You know. There was
Speaker 4: lads and look, I mean I love it. I love
Speaker 4: it when they like to. If you could have measured
Speaker 4: the good vibes in there yesterday, I'd say it would
Speaker 4: have healed the lame. What they cured the sick? What
Speaker 4: the fucking raising up the fucking date?
Speaker 3: You know it was.
Speaker 4: There was those kind of vibes and there's nothing like it.
Speaker 4: There's children fucking happy, there was out people happy. Everybody
Speaker 4: was happy, and I was so happy for them. And
Speaker 4: then when the saw Doctors, which you know, a leats
Speaker 4: wouldn't do any harm to get a Mayo band to
Speaker 4: fucking sing something. But anyway, when the Saw Doctors sang
Speaker 4: blast blasted out beautiful song about the lovely Mayo, you
Speaker 4: couldn't help but go, this could be a fucking movie.
Speaker 4: This is always I mean, it's got a Hallmark movie
Speaker 4: or Disney. It's got a mighty Ducks vibe to it.
Speaker 2: It's got a mighty Ducks vibe to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now without no one going through and the players
Speaker 4: or anything anything like that, because we don't need educator
Speaker 4: selves too much on it. Because I'll be honest with
Speaker 4: you there the way, I always like playing Gaelic football
Speaker 4: because I wasn't taste enough to play a hurler and
Speaker 4: to be Horland up until once I got past the
Speaker 4: age twelve intemporary if you can't, if you can't, I
Speaker 4: probably would have started for most fucking shut with the
Speaker 4: Wolves for that. Yeah I could have started a couple
Speaker 4: of Shy county teams. But in tip if you can't
Speaker 4: hurl herrle by the age as well, yeah you're you're
Speaker 4: at not like so football. And that's literally how it's
Speaker 4: looked at Like if there was if there was a
Speaker 4: lad on that Mayo team yesterday but he had Hourland
Speaker 4: training for his county or for his parish in Tipperary,
Speaker 4: they'd be totally leave off to command to fucking play
Speaker 4: and train.
Speaker 3: That's the way it's looked at so. But we I
Speaker 3: would love to look at it as a as a movie.
Speaker 1: Who who would be?
Speaker 3: Who would be are?
Speaker 4: Because really the hero of all this isn't so much
Speaker 4: the coaches. It's it's or isn't so much of the players.
Speaker 4: It's the coach, Andy Moore, former player who came back
Speaker 4: after being never getting so close and he you know,
Speaker 4: did a bit with you know, I think lead from
Speaker 4: in a couple of other clubs and Monahan actually his
Speaker 4: backroom staff from Monahan as well, there you.
Speaker 3: Go, and then he comes back. Who who's going to
Speaker 3: play the coach?
Speaker 4: Do you know?
Speaker 1: It depends on the Benson when you get him.
Speaker 2: But you'd imagine that it's Chris so downs to lose there,
Speaker 2: don't you.
Speaker 4: I suppose, I suppose, But I mean if if if
Speaker 4: we want to if we want to stay local.
Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 4: Let's m let's assume we can put a good Irish
Speaker 4: accent in all of them, which is fucking hard done
Speaker 4: by that, but with the fucking Irish boies.
Speaker 1: Can't do that?
Speaker 2: Noh okay, ex player comes back to lead everybody to
Speaker 2: sex success in our around the age appropriate. Now we'll
Speaker 2: give him early forties, early forties. Okay, Well, it's not
Speaker 2: going to be Antonio Banderas that.
Speaker 1: No, they're really good.
Speaker 2: They're going to come at me here now they're going
Speaker 2: to say that McBride came into the podcast giving out
Speaker 2: about women driving Bin Louri's. Now he says, Antonio Bandeir
Speaker 2: can't play a male man.
Speaker 4: Just's no respect for anybody this guy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but but but but someone of the someone
Speaker 2: of the Tom Cruise stature. I guess cruises a male
Speaker 2: I gotta be take his take his far and away
Speaker 2: accent out of.
Speaker 1: The wardrobe and get that out again like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna make it either Vince Vaughn or
Speaker 4: Woody Harrison, you know what I mean, because they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, even though I think they're a little bit
Speaker 2: old for it now, even a little bit of movie magic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, four year old man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, movie magic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So I so for for.
Speaker 4: Captain Jack Jack Coyne yesterday, who were going to have
Speaker 4: who's going to be He's got to be fresh enough looking,
Speaker 4: can be athletic. That's that's that's that's that's young Paul
Speaker 4: Meskals to lose their I think so, yeah, I think
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 1: He can't do that, I know, I think.
Speaker 4: Okay, so we have to have a villain on the
Speaker 4: other side to two villains, the captain of the I
Speaker 4: don't know that one of the Cliffer brothers or who.
Speaker 2: Do you know what you want if you want a villain,
Speaker 2: you want the priest to be a villain in a flashback. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you want to have the priest and have the priest
Speaker 2: be like al Pacino.
Speaker 9: Brilliant and your great ass to never win the Oldland,
Speaker 9: your fucking assholes.
Speaker 4: Okay, brilliant, brilliant, And we're gonna have a bit of
Speaker 4: a jerk, so okay, and not so much a villain,
Speaker 4: but a jerk captain Kerry who plays a good jerk.
Speaker 3: I think we could have Danny McBride.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm gonna do? You know? You know?
Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you now the fourth person
Speaker 2: that springs to mind, and it's a lady.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna tell you we can, we can,
Speaker 1: we can, we can. We're gonna suspend.
Speaker 2: This is Hollywood, we can do whatever we want.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Do you know an actress called Carra de Lavigne should
Speaker 2: be sort of a model little slash actress, and she's
Speaker 2: been in a couple of bits and pieces you know
Speaker 2: where to see a very familiar name, right.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: She was in Suicide Squad, is what I know from, Okay,
Speaker 2: and she's been in a few other bits and pieces.
Speaker 2: But the reason why she springs to mind is her
Speaker 2: grandfather was one of the chief officers of the.
Speaker 3: Black and Tans.
Speaker 1: In real life.
Speaker 2: She's ahead, you know, so she's like fully descending from
Speaker 2: the Black and Tans. And if you're gonna send anybody
Speaker 2: out as a villain in an Irish movie. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say either Claren DeLavigne or if she has a brother
Speaker 2: that can act at all, get him out there as
Speaker 2: the Kerry captain. Yeah, alright, Paddy, alright, you my own
Speaker 2: fox who if you wants to give Irish football.
Speaker 4: It was a you're gonna have.
Speaker 2: It's only because I don't know if Cromwell is any
Speaker 2: fucking descending.
Speaker 4: We get, we get, we get Alan Ford otherwise known
Speaker 4: as bricked up to play.
Speaker 3: See what you want to do?
Speaker 4: It's out of time speech about how to bury a
Speaker 4: dead body will find yourself.
Speaker 3: With some peaks.
Speaker 4: They'll go through bound like butter, like a piece head
Speaker 4: does to carry whatever is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I love it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we were making up over there.
Speaker 4: The Green and that's it, The Green and Max Christopher
Speaker 4: Nolan does the whole thing up clothes, builds a whole
Speaker 4: croak park without ever use the real c g Yeah nothing,
Speaker 4: you know nothing.
Speaker 1: I need a real body to run off the road.
Speaker 2: Well commre congratulations two mao. Uh, don't go mad lads
Speaker 2: and go for if you don't win it next year again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but go go mad like I don't want to
Speaker 4: like go mad the supporters, but lads like, let's not
Speaker 4: see you know, saddle bags and b arses and the
Speaker 4: lads come, come, they.
Speaker 3: Started the league next year.
Speaker 4: We don't need to mean well that's us now. Although
Speaker 4: their leads their their head. Guy Kobe was his name.
Speaker 4: He's gone today. I believe he for celebrations. I don't
Speaker 4: think he celebrations lasted that long.
Speaker 3: He's gone. I could be wrong, it could be I
Speaker 3: think he's gone to Australia something. He's gone.
Speaker 4: I think he's gone to the Sydney's ones for and
Speaker 4: I can guarantee his agent was on the phone mid
Speaker 4: air going you may fucking put another time grand a
Speaker 4: month on that fucking contract.
Speaker 1: By the way, zero on that lads.
Speaker 3: That lad has a.
Speaker 4: Goed medal in his ars pocket and he's gonna put
Speaker 4: bums on seats. So and a great name you're gonna
Speaker 4: call somebody Kobe make him all and Ireland women when.
Speaker 1: And the man of the match winning nominal determinism.
Speaker 2: There enough about those last time. We could have talked
Speaker 2: about them all night, but we've been another a better
Speaker 2: show to do. We're gonna bust on and start talking
Speaker 2: about this lad.
Speaker 4: You have me very excited by this lad because Jerry
Speaker 4: literally he sends me the synopsis because there is a
Speaker 4: great producer of a podcast.
Speaker 3: He regrites me beautiful sass that are worthy.
Speaker 4: I've actually been in this description in all fairness. But therefore,
Speaker 4: the two of us to get excited about our own
Speaker 4: podcast three.
Speaker 2: We don't don't don't bury the lead in it there,
Speaker 2: Tom Bring, I'm going to bring the people through it
Speaker 2: here as well.
Speaker 1: We're not going to dwell on this guy.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know who Jerry is talking about,
Speaker 4: is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited. I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: So uh and and and I could bring this up
Speaker 2: on Tom and be like, oh fuck, I know that lad.
Speaker 2: All that him every now and then on the Tom
Speaker 2: and Jerry Show. We won't have this lad, but we'll
Speaker 2: just have somebody that we wanted to talk about for
Speaker 2: a while. Yes, someone will catch a Ryean and we'll
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, not in the news or current affairs,
Speaker 2: but hey, holy shit, would I like to hear the
Speaker 2: story of this lad. And I saw this lad, I
Speaker 2: was like, gotta talk to Tom about this. This Lad's
Speaker 2: name Tom is It sounds Irish, but he's not Irish.
Speaker 2: To the best of my knowledge, it is Donald Donagan,
Speaker 2: Donnie dunaghan. Could he's got Donnie Donaghan is still with us,
Speaker 2: he walks among us. He's an old man at this stage,
Speaker 2: he is ninety one years of age. And why the
Speaker 2: fuck has he become this lad?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What made him spring into the pantheons of this lad?
Speaker 1: Tom?
Speaker 2: Very simple? Okay, Donny Donagan was at the time of it,
Speaker 2: and I don't believe it's ever been it's ever been beaten.
Speaker 2: At the age of eighteen, was the youngest member of
Speaker 2: the US Marines in a very particular role, a role
Speaker 2: that you and I if we were going to say
Speaker 2: that we like one role in the US Army, if
Speaker 2: we have a soft spot for one role in the
Speaker 2: US Army based on our love of movies like Full
Speaker 2: Metal Jackets, that role would be.
Speaker 1: What Tom, what? What? What? What role am I talking about?
Speaker 4: Is a drill sergeant, by anything, it his drill sergeant eighteen.
Speaker 4: He comes such a mean bastard at eighteen.
Speaker 1: Well he came in and who would everybody?
Speaker 2: They were they were you know, just he blited through
Speaker 2: the basic training tom he got all that done within
Speaker 2: his eighteenth year.
Speaker 3: When when when was? When was?
Speaker 4: I suppose if he's ninety one, now this must been.
Speaker 3: For the First World or Second World War?
Speaker 1: Was it?
Speaker 2: He made the Second World War just by a smage. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: he missed the Second World War just by a smage.
Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty two he enlisted in the Marine Corps
Speaker 2: and became the youngest drilling structure in the history of
Speaker 2: the Corps.
Speaker 1: My man, and he was.
Speaker 2: By all accounts hard task master, as the drill instructors
Speaker 2: tend to be. Now, if anybody's listening here, going like
Speaker 2: drill instructor, please, is that the guy in the in
Speaker 2: the in the in the in the workshop that's telling
Speaker 2: you how to use the lad No, although funny to say,
Speaker 2: as I mentioned that Donny Dunegan was from the age
Speaker 2: of thirteen a laid operator, Well he was a drill
Speaker 2: master then.
Speaker 4: Literally mastered the So he was this fellow is this
Speaker 4: fellow is a bloke at like you know, making.
Speaker 2: More afirmation that his family weren't all that rich and
Speaker 2: he was helping supplement their income, and he got all
Speaker 2: the laid work in the area before he signed up
Speaker 2: for the Marines in nineteen fifty two, and they were like,
Speaker 2: this guy's too much of a bastard to just put
Speaker 2: rank and file and drill instructor. You'll be waking these
Speaker 2: fuckers up in the morning.
Speaker 4: Jesus, what a what a like? Typically drilling instructors are veterans,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 4: Yes, so through for this fella to be a raw
Speaker 4: motherfucker at eighteen telling other eighteen, nineteen twenty year olds
Speaker 4: get the fuck drop your drop your cocks and grab
Speaker 4: your socks exactly, stop.
Speaker 1: Your grinning, stop your grinning, and grab your linen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he the drill instructor again. Sorry, I very the
Speaker 2: drill instructor. Like from Full Metal Jacket, the guy at
Speaker 2: the start.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna re Sergeant Hurt.
Speaker 2: You're seeingiorr drill instructor who just balls people out.
Speaker 1: I didn't know theice that shit that high. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: kind of guy. That's our man.
Speaker 4: Days of fingerband banging, Old Mary Jane Rottencratch next door over.
Speaker 2: So Donagan decent, decent, decent soldier, shall we say, right
Speaker 2: by all means, served.
Speaker 1: Three tours in Vietnam. Wow, now, three tours in Vietnam.
Speaker 4: In Vietnam, and he signed up in fifty fucking two.
Speaker 3: In fifty two in Vietnam, he must have been fucking
Speaker 3: in his thirties.
Speaker 2: He retired with the rank of major, so he okay,
Speaker 2: Major Donnie Donigan in nineteen.
Speaker 1: Major Donnie donn again. Let me, let me just do
Speaker 1: Miss sums here.
Speaker 2: So that's twenty five years, twenty five years of active
Speaker 2: service in the military, and he's coming out of it
Speaker 2: at the age of forty three, forty thirty three and
Speaker 2: can do whatever the hell he wanted with after.
Speaker 4: Pension and everything at that stage, like that man's that
Speaker 4: was a major pension.
Speaker 2: He's all right, good pension. Bronze star. Three purple hearts.
Speaker 2: Purple heart is the one you.
Speaker 1: Get forgetting wounded in battle, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Purple hearts, But their bravery as well, I think like
Speaker 4: in the bravery as well, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: Three proper heart.
Speaker 4: It is like gonna re sergeant watching my color from
Speaker 4: Heartbreak Ridge. Yeah, holy shit, it's a bronze star as well.
Speaker 1: The whole lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah they I'm looking it up here. So the purple
Speaker 2: heart is for being it's been wounded in battle. So
Speaker 2: I you're and surviving. You can get a purple heart
Speaker 2: if you die, and then the bronze star is for
Speaker 2: heroic achievement service or murders service in a combat.
Speaker 4: I'm think you're just you're circling me lips here now
Speaker 4: with this nice sup of tea and knowing that I
Speaker 4: full well love military nostalgia. But I don't think that's
Speaker 4: what Donny you're here to tell me.
Speaker 3: Donny did.
Speaker 2: No, Donnie, who went through twenty five years in the
Speaker 2: military and emerged at the other side, had carried with
Speaker 2: him Tom a secret that he had told nobody.
Speaker 1: In Yeah, great big Fluffy ears.
Speaker 5: No, he had a secret. He had a childhood secret
Speaker 5: that he had told absolutely nobody, and it's probably something
Speaker 5: that that led him to where he was because Donnie Donigan,
Speaker 5: when he was ten years of age, saw his mother
Speaker 5: get shot Fuck.
Speaker 3: Right now we know where the raw Baster was born, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, Donnie Donegan saw his mother get shot dead, and Tom,
Speaker 2: so did we because Donnie Donagan's mother at the time
Speaker 2: was Bambie's mother. Because what nobody knew was the Donnie Donegan,
Speaker 2: as a ten year old boy, was the voice of
Speaker 2: Bambie in the Disney movie Bombie.
Speaker 3: As a ten year old.
Speaker 1: As a ten year old, the sweet little come this
Speaker 1: way murther then, I think we've given.
Speaker 3: Them the slip, mother, Mother, hold on.
Speaker 4: So he went from being a cutey wootsie boy.
Speaker 2: I went from being picked from obscurity at the age
Speaker 2: of three in a talent contest in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Don't you know a.
Speaker 2: Family is poor as dirt and to stick the kid
Speaker 2: in the talent contest at three to get one hundred
Speaker 2: dollars and they're like, holy shit. And someone says, hey,
Speaker 2: get this kid into the movies or whatever. And he
Speaker 2: started in a couple of movies, not in major although
Speaker 2: we you know, we say the biggest role was Bambi
Speaker 2: in Bambi, But his biggest on screen role was the
Speaker 2: Son of Frankenstein in the Son of Frankenstein in nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty nine. I haven't seen that one, but I can
Speaker 2: only imagine's a cute little fucking dude popping around the place.
Speaker 2: And in nineteen forty two he was selected by Walt
Speaker 2: Disney himself to be the voice of Bambie in Bambi.
Speaker 1: Holy then did it?
Speaker 7: Then?
Speaker 3: If you follow what I've told you, so far.
Speaker 2: And then he just decided at the age of thirteen,
Speaker 2: fuck this, I want to go with the laid.
Speaker 1: Don you if you learn those lines.
Speaker 2: There's this guy over here and it looks to me
Speaker 2: like he's Whittland Metal. What is this sorcery? And he
Speaker 2: went to become a laid operator just just and not.
Speaker 1: For nothing, didn't grow up to be.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like when Daniel dale Lewis quit acting to
Speaker 2: be a shoemaker all those years ago. This is a
Speaker 2: kid that's thirteen years of age going like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what, Yeah, movies. Movies are temporary, laid in there,
Speaker 2: that's where it is.
Speaker 3: Well, you see this is allowed. But his head strapped on.
Speaker 4: Let's be honest, like because I mean, the last thing
Speaker 4: he wants to be is like Jason Bateman, like, you know,
Speaker 4: just chasing the dream continuously. This kid, I love the
Speaker 4: fact that he knew he was done when he was done, like.
Speaker 1: You rapped, when you're done, you're done, when he.
Speaker 3: Wrapped it up went.
Speaker 4: I love the notion that he's just a burnt out
Speaker 4: kid at like twelve. It's like smoking hamlets now, just
Speaker 4: just walking around the house with a fucking with his.
Speaker 3: Bathrobe open, Spider Man bathroom open.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 3: That's You're just gonna have to. He just gonna have to.
Speaker 3: It is what it is. I can't know money left, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got nothing. I gotta fall back on the tools.
Speaker 3: I gotta fall back.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, after after five years of laid
Speaker 2: operation turn Actually you know what you know, I think
Speaker 2: the real money's in killing. I think the real money's
Speaker 2: in killing and roaring that lads at five in the morning.
Speaker 3: She's been broken as a young deer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing you could do with this kid, like
Speaker 2: you know, he's just like a minute now.
Speaker 3: He's got a thousand yards stare at thirteen years of age.
Speaker 2: Like a thousand yards there at thirteen operating a laid
Speaker 2: under constant risk of getting drawn into that thing because
Speaker 2: all the time, all the laid is folks as a
Speaker 2: PTO shaft that you can push a knife at. Yeah
Speaker 2: literally ah, and then gets to be the youngest drill
Speaker 2: instructor and head and at no stage for twenty five
Speaker 2: years to heat turn around and go do you ever
Speaker 2: see BOMBI? Yeah that was me, because how the fuck
Speaker 2: would you be a senior drill instructor gunnery sergeant Hartman.
Speaker 2: When every man in that in that training group knows
Speaker 2: that you're fucking the little deer that couldn't stand up
Speaker 2: on it.
Speaker 3: How how duped would you feel?
Speaker 4: You know, as a marine will say twenty odd years.
Speaker 4: You know, you served your time and you you're retired
Speaker 4: as well now. And this guy had been balling you
Speaker 4: out of it in Paras Island or wherever they were,
Speaker 4: San Antonio, wherever they're you know, the training.
Speaker 3: Base was, he's balling the fuck out.
Speaker 1: You be on it.
Speaker 4: You know he was your sergeant, then you're fucking He
Speaker 4: became major, probably took a desk job, but I mean
Speaker 4: he was your superior, and he was known as a
Speaker 4: hard con from day one, and you respected everything. He
Speaker 4: probably formed you as a soldier as a marine, he
Speaker 4: formed you because of his heart, he hard reasoning.
Speaker 3: And then you find out the country was Bambi's Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what no, no, this is my my entire
Speaker 4: persona as a marine, A hard heart. You know, some
Speaker 4: of these legs would have went on to become Navy seals,
Speaker 4: do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like that?
Speaker 2: This guy, he's as hard as fucking and in his
Speaker 2: own words, he says, you know, there was absolutely no
Speaker 2: way I would have succeeded in the military as much
Speaker 2: if everybody knew I was Major Bambi.
Speaker 3: But sure he do.
Speaker 4: You know what it was to his blessing in the course,
Speaker 4: You see, he didn't have any downtime leaning against the wall,
Speaker 4: smoking figs with the boys, because he was the boss
Speaker 4: from the second he was stepped in there. He's one
Speaker 4: of his freaks who can just beat the boss from
Speaker 4: the second he walks.
Speaker 3: In the door.
Speaker 4: But if he was just a normal grunt, there'll be
Speaker 4: sometime he'd be in a hole somewhere in the fucking Vietcong,
Speaker 4: you know, yet in the jungle, just leaning back going,
Speaker 4: you know, smoking the fact, trying to keep the head down,
Speaker 4: Charlie in the trees, going, do you know who I
Speaker 4: was as a child, fucking go on, I was. You
Speaker 4: weren't your fuck, But I swear to swear.
Speaker 1: To your phone out and look it up.
Speaker 4: You mean the phone on my back did have to
Speaker 4: wind up calling an air strike?
Speaker 1: He doesn't.
Speaker 2: He does appear to have had a bit of wit
Speaker 2: in it as well.
Speaker 1: And he's he's Memphis, Tennessee. Thomas. You know we were
Speaker 1: gonna like him as he.
Speaker 4: Has to be a soul in this boy anyway, like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I got some holes in my body.
Speaker 1: Got didn't put there?
Speaker 3: Yeah it? So did he? What was the he has?
Speaker 3: He just did?
Speaker 4: He so a sequester into into ambiguity after that or.
Speaker 1: What after that?
Speaker 2: He retired with his good lady wife, who I believe
Speaker 2: it's still with him. But he will do an odd
Speaker 2: convention here and there. He will do the circuit, as
Speaker 2: they say. He works as much as he likes, is
Speaker 2: interviewed every now and then on on the subject and
Speaker 2: doesn't mind talking about it. But at the same time
Speaker 2: in his own words as well, he could have made
Speaker 2: it to be the chief of the Secret Service if
Speaker 2: he had wanted to be. He could have dove in
Speaker 2: front of the bullet that was headed for Kennedy. And
Speaker 2: still people will be like, that'sh a man that played Bambi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. As he sits there gone.
Speaker 4: Mayo for semn.
Speaker 2: So there you go, just a little story and the
Speaker 2: listeners of the Tom and Jerry Show, just just a
Speaker 2: little something something there.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 4: That's and the fact that he'd the wherewrell to keep himself.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I can totally believe it because.
Speaker 4: If you went, you know, as a team all the
Speaker 4: way into his teens and then got drafted, then you go, oh,
Speaker 4: I can see why.
Speaker 3: I see. You know, he's probably be a bit resentful.
Speaker 4: He chose oh yeah, twelve years of age.
Speaker 3: To not chase that dream. Ago.
Speaker 4: No, I'm going to be a machinist, thanks very much,
Speaker 4: because there's no money that fucking these hundred good lads
Speaker 4: aren't grown out coun trees and there's only one Bambie
Speaker 4: and I can tell you one night, but it looks
Speaker 4: things there isn't going to be in Bambie too, So yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: And the vice is going to be at thirteen years
Speaker 2: of age anyway. Yeah, And you know, the only equivalent
Speaker 2: of it that I can think of now is if
Speaker 2: you can imagine being a young US marine being selled
Speaker 2: out to Afghanistan and you're going around the fucking Candahar
Speaker 2: province and you're your squad leader.
Speaker 1: Is the kid from the sixth Sense, you know?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe they were fucked.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but a couple I do like looking into those
Speaker 4: things every so you'll get you'll get them coming up
Speaker 4: what they're doing now and some flers to chase the
Speaker 4: dream and it doesn't go well from about her. But
Speaker 4: there was you know, lads from the goonies who just decided,
Speaker 4: it's one.
Speaker 3: Fell that's a vet.
Speaker 4: He totally gave it. He gave it in, give it
Speaker 4: up straight away. That was one and done.
Speaker 3: That's me.
Speaker 4: And went on to be a vet after that. A
Speaker 4: couple of lads you know from you know, the the
Speaker 4: flight and navigator.
Speaker 3: I think he went have to be a slicster or
Speaker 3: something like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, just even on to require a solicitor.
Speaker 3: Actually, I haven't fallen.
Speaker 2: Across anything to win into the military. And again here
Speaker 2: I am in a like.
Speaker 1: Succeeded. Yeah, to the high degree. You don't want to
Speaker 1: be pinned in by eminy fire.
Speaker 2: And you look to your left and it's just like
Speaker 2: sucking some lad from the little rascals besides you. You're
Speaker 2: like when he's sucking showing all the enemy where he was,
Speaker 2: he looks up the end of the gun, there's like
Speaker 2: a black ring comes up. Well, listen, there you go,
Speaker 2: just a little just a little throw in for you
Speaker 2: fine folks with the Tom and Jerry audience there and
Speaker 2: you know what we're gonna do, Tom, We're gonna rock
Speaker 2: and roll with the last segment of it. We went
Speaker 2: down memory lane for that. We went down memory lane
Speaker 2: for the last two segments. Seventy five years plus on
Speaker 2: both of them, but they weren't within our lifetime. The
Speaker 2: last segment of the show is we talk about things
Speaker 2: that we've experienced in our lifetime.
Speaker 1: Tom. It's the segment we call we remember when.
Speaker 3: Do you have any jar?
Speaker 1: I don't, Tom, do you I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: If I was going and this will tell you how
Speaker 4: fucking deep red raw redneck I would be, I'd probably
Speaker 4: get this what's on my T shirt right now, I'll
Speaker 4: probably get this somewhere on my body.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you as as I get a wee bit older,
Speaker 2: I might actually might actually get a few.
Speaker 1: For the fuck of it.
Speaker 2: We better tell people what we are talking about. It
Speaker 2: is the rise in our lifetime, Tom, of what we
Speaker 2: used to know as tattoos, but I believe are now
Speaker 2: known as body art.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, buddy art, just like climate change with global
Speaker 4: warming one time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, packages is a different thing.
Speaker 2: Tattoo just just seemed to to to course for And
Speaker 2: you know what I'm going to tell you, I'm going
Speaker 2: to give it to this one, because what's on people
Speaker 2: these days are not what I knew was tattoos as
Speaker 2: a child.
Speaker 4: There's some now there's some shit. It's still out there
Speaker 4: because you're asking a human to do it. Well, I mean,
Speaker 4: this is it too until you get Now there's some people.
Speaker 4: You could have a year long waiting list, and people
Speaker 4: travel to Japan for some of these people, and it's
Speaker 4: so realistic it's ludicrous their mind, the way that works
Speaker 4: and the way they're able to write these do these things.
Speaker 4: I saw a guy got the full proclamation and it
Speaker 4: was very well done, but full Proclamation of independence on his.
Speaker 3: Back and not as tattoo. It is the first one
Speaker 3: he ever went.
Speaker 1: For whole we go all we'll go all in on the.
Speaker 4: Proclamation on something he'll never be able to read. It
Speaker 4: is on his back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So, but that's I.
Speaker 2: Gotta tell you, Tom, when we were when we were
Speaker 2: coming up, you and I again, kids of the eighties.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to say like what we were
Speaker 2: there for the invention of THEO.
Speaker 8: No, but like tattoos were the payamit of like the
Speaker 8: barliest of men, they were quite poor, Like you had
Speaker 8: to squint very hard to see that it was a
Speaker 8: panther clothing into your forearm.
Speaker 4: And that was literally I'm thinking of one fella. His
Speaker 4: name was Mark, who was lovely feller from Cove, but
Speaker 4: he used to call him three ton because he was
Speaker 4: like a three ton digger.
Speaker 3: Like this fella.
Speaker 4: He was built never played rugby and I was crying shame.
Speaker 4: He was built like an international prop you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, all tank. He was all tank, this guy.
Speaker 3: But he had.
Speaker 4: He had the quintessential dagger, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like there was like six things you could get.
Speaker 4: There was Mam Dad and the knuckles, and there was
Speaker 4: the dagger, and then he got a panther one day
Speaker 4: going around his forearm. The panther was one and it
Speaker 4: was it was woeful, Like I mean, it was the
Speaker 4: worst kind of cartoon, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 4: the needles, the technology wasn't there, and like many things,
Speaker 4: if the competition isn't savage, then standards don't have to
Speaker 4: come up. Are just happy to get this. And of
Speaker 4: course every single lad I was always in the building sits.
Speaker 4: Every lad would come back from whether its fucking albofera
Speaker 4: Benadorm or whatever, and they'd get to late night Tattoo Studio,
Speaker 4: which is a brilliant idea, and they would invariably come
Speaker 4: back from a Spanish island as.
Speaker 3: A white Irish lad. It's that Maori tattoo.
Speaker 1: This this, this I.
Speaker 2: Want to talk about for for for for two fucking
Speaker 2: hours as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like trends, they come on trends, they go yeah,
Speaker 2: and what's fashionable now may not be fashionable again. It's
Speaker 2: a passing fad. And that's okay when it's a pair
Speaker 2: of jeans or a haircut or similar or same Tom,
Speaker 2: not when it's a permanent etching on your body. And
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, in the early two thousands, as we
Speaker 2: were coming through, every young lad decided that what they
Speaker 2: needed was tribal tattoos. Like and to be fair, at
Speaker 2: the time, it was like, holy shit, you mean like
Speaker 2: Blade has Fuck, yeah, I'll go a couple of them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as Tom says, there, these are tribal tattoos.
Speaker 1: You're not in the tribe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Polynesian tattoos. Never have you even been to the
Speaker 4: south Sea Islands or Oceanica, and you know, you have
Speaker 4: never been anywhere, you know, I have no grasp of it.
Speaker 4: Have never you know, prior to prior to Moana, have
Speaker 4: probably never had an experience of it. Like, but lads
Speaker 4: were getting these tribal tattoos and it. There was companies too,
Speaker 4: like say, they were kind of I suppose they were
Speaker 4: associated with sponsoring UFC fighters in the early day, like affliction.
Speaker 3: Remember affliction? No, remember that?
Speaker 4: And it was all tribal shit alright, all tribal ship
Speaker 4: on their t shirts. And as we get that and
Speaker 4: they get like the yin and yang symbol fucking put
Speaker 4: in there as well, I think that's.
Speaker 1: What it was.
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, well, I don't want as
Speaker 2: I was growing up by seeing like my dad had
Speaker 2: like a you know, the swallow on your hand, yeah,
Speaker 2: or or or you know, the dagger and the heart
Speaker 2: and all that kind and I don't want any of that.
Speaker 1: I don't want.
Speaker 2: I don't want any of that. Okay, Well, how do
Speaker 2: you feel about swirls?
Speaker 1: Man? How do you feel about big sharp swirls?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Grand what is it?
Speaker 1: Is it a music?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 1: Not, kid, it's not.
Speaker 3: It's just like swirly bits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fucking slap one on me.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, let's good.
Speaker 4: I remember I can remember wanting one on my tie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because I saw there was a Maori guy, like he
Speaker 4: was a New Zealand guy. He was playing for a
Speaker 4: club that I was fan of, and I remember thinking
Speaker 4: that is the cool. But of course he had one.
Speaker 4: He probably had it like the way they do those ones,
Speaker 4: I think is the sharpened boar tooth on the end
Speaker 4: of a little stick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they tattoo you in front of the whole village.
Speaker 2: He didn't get it on a stag weekend. He caught it,
Speaker 2: you know, as part of the ceremony, their version of
Speaker 2: the confirmation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: Here's here's our Lord and Savior Christ and I lay
Speaker 2: down here while we hammered this shit int you for
Speaker 2: an hour or two.
Speaker 4: And you said ball snake in front of the whole village,
Speaker 4: and we get to do it. But this was my
Speaker 4: notion and put with no further thought into other than
Speaker 4: my sixteen year old bring thinking that's cool.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 4: By the time I got into my twenties, I was
Speaker 4: kind of going, oh, none of this is everything I was.
Speaker 4: I was able to recognize that what I thought was
Speaker 4: cool last year, I don't think it's cool now. So
Speaker 4: my fear was always what I think is cool Now.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna think it's cool now. Had
Speaker 4: I got a picture of say in nineteen ninety two Piggerio, Yes,
Speaker 4: I still think that's cool, just saying I'm not sure
Speaker 4: I wanted tattooed on me, but I still think it
Speaker 4: is cool.
Speaker 1: I was the same I was.
Speaker 2: I was always, you know, intrigued by it, but I
Speaker 2: could never I could never pick something that I could
Speaker 2: stand over for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that seems to be the recurring team.
Speaker 4: And I ask people what and then you see once
Speaker 4: somebody gets they say, oh, well, it's addictive. Once you
Speaker 4: get one, you've broken the seal now on your and
Speaker 4: then you just don't give a fuck yet, you don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck like you see. And it seems real
Speaker 4: trend with some guys now getting nostaltic style, you know,
Speaker 4: Californian sailor style.
Speaker 1: Sailor Jerry styles styles.
Speaker 4: You know they with the woman with the tits out
Speaker 4: and put it.
Speaker 1: I believe that's Sailor Jerry styles.
Speaker 3: Is it Sailor Jerry?
Speaker 1: Is that is correct? Me in there?
Speaker 2: But that's the classic Popeye tattoos. Yeah, yeah, it ways
Speaker 2: to go before we get to that, because we saw
Speaker 2: a few other trends tom While the fellows were off
Speaker 2: getting tribal tattoos left, right and center, the ladies it
Speaker 2: must be said, Well, you know, I'm from a small
Speaker 2: town in Ireland. There were no painted ladies in the
Speaker 2: town all that all that terrible much, but if there was,
Speaker 2: they might have like a dolphin. Yeah, I think dolphins
Speaker 2: were big noise for ladies in the mid nineties.
Speaker 3: I want to that someone butterflies. Butterflies, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I wanted someone take that, and I want to say
Speaker 2: it was Mark go on, correct me in the comments.
Speaker 2: I want to say mark oone had like a dolphin tattoo.
Speaker 2: And then every girl of that age that was a
Speaker 2: take that fan were like buying dolphin tattoo for me
Speaker 2: please as well. And then I'll get I'll get a butterfly,
Speaker 2: you got a butterfly, I'll get like.
Speaker 1: A musical note.
Speaker 4: But then that that that transpired then to something different,
Speaker 4: like you went into your Chinese symbols then as well
Speaker 4: on top of that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Chinese symbols. That was another big thing that came in.
Speaker 2: And again I want to say that, what is a
Speaker 2: Chinese symbol other than a tribal tattoo for a lady.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a square couple of yeah. But and
Speaker 4: then as the tribal tattoos came across to women, then
Speaker 4: it was they moved around the hip or down it
Speaker 4: and onto the lower.
Speaker 2: Back became a settling point for for the tram step like,
Speaker 2: but who went nowhere else do I want this?
Speaker 4: I don't want it on my upper shoulder, I don't
Speaker 4: want it on my leg. Let's put on my the
Speaker 4: base my base of Let's put around the base of
Speaker 4: my spine a tribal tattoo.
Speaker 2: You know, or the crest of Liverpool FC, whatever, depending
Speaker 2: on where you were. But it just became like and again,
Speaker 2: I'd love to study the.
Speaker 1: Why it was.
Speaker 2: I guess it was like, well, you know, at the
Speaker 2: time we got to remember.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: Nowadays, you can tattoo your face and walk into a
Speaker 2: job in the in the in the c suite and.
Speaker 1: Nobody gives a buck.
Speaker 2: But back in the back in the day, it was well,
Speaker 2: you know, don't have it showing, you know, because if
Speaker 2: you're working, if you're or a waitress and bar, you know,
Speaker 2: door to door salesman, whatever it might be. People see tattoos.
Speaker 2: They may not like that, and they may just not
Speaker 2: fucking do any business with you. Again, this is thirty
Speaker 2: years ago, folks.
Speaker 1: So they were like, all right, okay, so nothing on
Speaker 1: my arms, nothing on my hands.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't want it on a belly because
Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, but lower back, bang, tidy, beautiful.
Speaker 1: I do it there.
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 4: I always thought what it was a sacred thing to get.
Speaker 4: If you were going to get one, it had to
Speaker 4: be serious and you had to be all of it
Speaker 4: in a You had to stand over this for you
Speaker 4: have to stand over this. You have to get a
Speaker 4: reputable person to do it, and all the rest of them.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget. He was a chap He was doing
Speaker 4: comedy at the time, and he asked me to pick
Speaker 4: him up from It was actually near where Chris Kent
Speaker 4: is from.
Speaker 3: I remember going, oh, no, I know the area, all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can pick you up there.
Speaker 4: And we were heading to some gig somewhere, let's say Waterford,
Speaker 4: and I pulled into a house in estate and he
Speaker 4: walks out the door of this house. He was like,
Speaker 4: all right, thanks man and walks out, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is not your house. It's like, oh no, I
Speaker 4: was just getting a tattoo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in some lad's house, in his bedroom.
Speaker 4: This guy had a tattoo gun and he got The
Speaker 4: guy had gotten in collegiate style. You know, American football
Speaker 4: numbers of eighty eight because that was the year he
Speaker 4: was born, and you know you might forget that.
Speaker 1: And also code for Hyle Hitler.
Speaker 3: Yeah is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 1: But he look explaining that one.
Speaker 3: No, he got eighty eight, not hate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's the eighth letter of the alphabet?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 3: Fuck?
Speaker 4: You have to go all right, Okay, I don't think
Speaker 4: he thought that far though, No, he didn't.
Speaker 2: And this this is why I'm never gonna touch to you,
Speaker 2: because I can never think far enough ahead that you
Speaker 2: gotta leaf, you gotta leaf your racist pastward?
Speaker 1: Wait no, what what?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But I think even then he goes, what do you think?
Speaker 4: And he showed me And because the immediately spot a
Speaker 4: mistake or the guy didn't on the piping on the
Speaker 4: outside he where he should have infilled, he left the blank,
Speaker 4: and where he left the blank he should in field,
Speaker 4: and oh ah fuck, but he brushed it off, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, Jesus Christ, that'd be like somebody taking a
Speaker 4: toe off me in the way, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and the wrong toe off as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: How are you just gonna sit there not seeding like?
Speaker 4: But he didn't, and I remember thinking, all right, because
Speaker 4: he's had a few already shite ones also and it
Speaker 4: is what it is now and that's what it is,
Speaker 4: you know. So and but it always struck me that
Speaker 4: it was like, well, are you going to be Not
Speaker 4: that I care that I'm judge, but you're gonna be
Speaker 4: judged incorrectly, do you know what I mean? So, say
Speaker 4: you got one when you're really into the spice giruns
Speaker 4: or something and you're like whatever, I'm going to get that,
Speaker 4: or Oasis and you want to get that, and now
Speaker 4: you don't really like him anymore. And the first thing
Speaker 4: somebody sees on your knee, as alwaysis you're like.
Speaker 7: Now or the Lost profits Tom Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 7: you're like, oh ship, you can Gary glitter on your
Speaker 7: yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck Jimmy, jim fixed it for me, yea.
Speaker 4: So so so, although I do have to tell you iself.
Speaker 4: Probably one of the greatest tattoos ever. A guy got
Speaker 4: a he got a cartoon of a sausage of bologney
Speaker 4: on his leg, but it was below his knee. I
Speaker 4: just went, all right, all day long, that's a joke forever,
Speaker 4: and I can totally get on.
Speaker 3: That's what I would get.
Speaker 4: I think I would get committed to the bit at that.
Speaker 3: But and it will.
Speaker 4: Never feel it's a great bit. It's a blowney below
Speaker 4: the knee. Yes, all day long. I'm like, all right, now,
Speaker 4: that's maybe possibly one.
Speaker 3: I could get.
Speaker 1: So commarre to me, tom right.
Speaker 2: So we've talked about when we were younger gentlemen, were
Speaker 2: some dubious trends that many ran a foul of, and
Speaker 2: there were young ladies got in on the act as well.
Speaker 2: They started to get a, you know, way more tattoos
Speaker 2: than they otherwise would have done. And at some stage
Speaker 2: in the last fifteen years or so, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, do you know the way tattoos are
Speaker 2: kind of and they're kind of kind of fucking not
Speaker 2: What if they were masterpieces? What if they were just
Speaker 2: like absolutely crisp crystal clear, you could actually tell exactly.
Speaker 1: What it was a print quality drawings.
Speaker 4: And I think we're probably I mean the notion of
Speaker 4: an artist doing and I suppose is nice ive. You know,
Speaker 4: you're into the creators other things. But if you want
Speaker 4: a super realistic, awesome thing, you can't tell me right
Speaker 4: now that there isn't an Ai tattoo machine somewhere in
Speaker 4: Japan that you can stick your fucking arm in, you know,
Speaker 4: and just does it because they're has to be that
Speaker 4: level of sophistication, because they've jumped so quick. Now, don't
Speaker 4: get me wrong, there's still lads like post Malone, who,
Speaker 4: as he was described brilliantly on a kil tony by
Speaker 4: a lad one time, because post Malone, you look like
Speaker 4: an unemployed crocodile hunter, which I thought was a fucking
Speaker 4: perfect description of him. He looks like a sack of
Speaker 4: ship who fell on some crayons, like terrible things drawn
Speaker 4: on his face. But he's get out of jail cardis
Speaker 4: he's got enough money to get really high end laser
Speaker 4: to get it off when he wants to know, should
Speaker 4: the day come.
Speaker 2: I do remember Frankie Boyle picking out some lad in
Speaker 2: the audience going like, look at you, and all the tattoos.
Speaker 1: You look like the notebook I keep beside the phone.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but Tom, I I cannot fathom what the hell
Speaker 10: happened in this And it couldn't be that we just
Speaker 10: got a bunch of fucking Latvians in in the mid
Speaker 10: in the mid two thousands, and they are all excellent
Speaker 10: tattoo artists.
Speaker 2: That can't be the case.
Speaker 3: I kind of is a bitcher.
Speaker 4: You tapped into something there which I noted before, is
Speaker 4: that as things get more worldwide, it be noting on
Speaker 4: somebody to like we would have been the first of
Speaker 4: our kind. I suppose in two thousand and one start
Speaker 4: going doing the J one and going to America. But
Speaker 4: then when you look into it, so many lads go
Speaker 4: to America, you know what I mean, go to now.
Speaker 4: They're going to Hawaii, They're going to Japan. They're going
Speaker 4: to these places where incredible artists are now tattooing people well,
Speaker 4: and like anything, our rise and Tide and all the
Speaker 4: rest of it. When standards come up, it's not acceptable
Speaker 4: now to be doing the panther down the arm anymore,
Speaker 4: you know, it's really fucking not. You've seen lads like
Speaker 4: you know, surely Mike Tyson you know, went off and
Speaker 4: got the fucking tribal like. He was the king of
Speaker 4: shit tattoos at the time, getting his face tone with
Speaker 4: a tribal tattoo like and not getting a lasered off
Speaker 4: because it's like, well it is, but it is, I suppose.
Speaker 4: But you're in a place now where And I'm fascinated
Speaker 4: by him. And I remember going to convention a couple
Speaker 4: of years ago because I was in Dublin and I
Speaker 4: had a pass because I knew one of the guys
Speaker 4: was tattooing in there, and I remember he wanted to.
Speaker 4: I never thought about tattoo artists like, I just thought
Speaker 4: you were born a brilliant artist.
Speaker 3: He wasn't.
Speaker 4: He had to train at drawing. Yeah, I never he
Speaker 4: thought about it like that before. I was like, Jesus,
Speaker 4: what an uphill fucking struggled to do. But the same
Speaker 4: guy's madgineto tattoos his face and nick and head tattoos
Speaker 4: and everything like that.
Speaker 3: So but it was it was amazing to see.
Speaker 4: They had this thing where they hung a curtain down
Speaker 4: the middle of a guy and he sat on a
Speaker 4: chair and the description was to draw an alternate body
Speaker 4: organ and two artists incredible artists on either side of
Speaker 4: the curtain got to draw what they tattooers man tattooed
Speaker 4: this guy in front of for reals both but both
Speaker 4: both people, You and I would probably let them without
Speaker 4: even thinking because they were that good. Like one guy
Speaker 4: did full on engine do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: On one side the other guy did I think he did,
Speaker 4: or like he did much more realistic but incredible. The
Speaker 4: way they stitched and then they took away the curtain
Speaker 4: and stitched together both of them. It was incredible what
Speaker 4: they did. But you're looking going, Okay, that is a
Speaker 4: fucking masterpiece. Now fuck it too, at the same time
Speaker 4: because you look down and go.
Speaker 1: Yes, just I suppose it's all right.
Speaker 4: But I think, I think when it gets to a
Speaker 4: certain point for a lot of people, Like there's a
Speaker 4: guy playing rugby for Ireland called Mackanson and he is
Speaker 4: a hilariously funny cunt, and he he made a vow
Speaker 4: that if he got to pick picked on the World
Speaker 4: Cup team or whatever, he would within one of the
Speaker 4: six nations, he would get the coach's face tattooed on
Speaker 4: his arms. And the coach is notably hard man who
Speaker 4: doesn't have any tattoos, and he got a tattoo of
Speaker 4: a really it looks shite like and he sent it
Speaker 4: to him and apparently he left him. He left the
Speaker 4: scene with two blue ticks and didn't reply for a
Speaker 4: day and a half. And he's he's notably a scary
Speaker 4: human like. He says, it was the worst team I have.
Speaker 4: It was the worst decision of my life. But since then,
Speaker 4: I've got a load of ship tattoos since.
Speaker 3: And it's just throw it on the pile.
Speaker 4: But it's it's it fits his personality. He's a goofy,
Speaker 4: funny guess cunt, you know what I mean? Where he's
Speaker 4: got these and it's all I should look at. I
Speaker 4: got a fucking missile down my fucking forearm, and I've
Speaker 4: got a fucking fish over this one and picture of
Speaker 4: me coach on me arse like.
Speaker 2: So let me let me let me ask you a
Speaker 2: question for a finish to this bit, Tom, right, we
Speaker 2: started coming in by saying that neither of us had
Speaker 2: any tattoos. You know, the theory is good right now,
Speaker 2: And I'm sure that there's some listeners to the Tommentarry
Speaker 2: Show who actually might be tattoo artists that could give
Speaker 2: us a bit of a discount, because that's another thing. Tom,
Speaker 2: This shit ain't cheap.
Speaker 1: I know it's not cheap. Arms like it's anyway.
Speaker 2: So if you were going to get something tattooed on
Speaker 2: your good self there, buddy, what would it be?
Speaker 1: And I'll give you mine.
Speaker 4: I honestly, I think far the crack. And because it's
Speaker 4: been around for so long, I genuinely think I'll probably
Speaker 4: get the Tom and.
Speaker 3: Jerry show logo. No, there's no joke.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's been it's it's been in our lives
Speaker 4: for so long that we probably go. It would make
Speaker 4: sense to me to get it done because there's like
Speaker 4: what else I'm not going to get.
Speaker 3: A team because that's just like a no guy.
Speaker 4: He would be actually played for a monster and got
Speaker 4: drunk and got his full number, full size number tattooed
Speaker 4: on his back.
Speaker 3: He went on to be a very successful singer.
Speaker 4: Barry Murphy, he showed me one day, went Jesus And
Speaker 4: it was at the time had he got it done
Speaker 4: like collegiate style, like it normally is on the back
Speaker 4: of a jersey. But at the time they were going
Speaker 4: through a mid two thousand space where all the numbers
Speaker 4: on their jerseys were kind of done in spiky tribal style.
Speaker 4: Now looks like at one and three in red.
Speaker 3: It's not good. It's in it.
Speaker 1: It in't it?
Speaker 2: The Tom and Jerry logo, of course, there by the wonderful.
Speaker 4: Could he tattoo me? If I got rob a tattooing?
Speaker 4: Could he tattoo me?
Speaker 3: I wonder? I don't see why not give it a go?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you want to go for myself, Tom for
Speaker 2: a finish. And it's the kind of thing that I
Speaker 2: always seen people with it. And I'll be like, why
Speaker 2: would you need that? You know the way people would
Speaker 2: say tattooed their their kids birthdays and things like this
Speaker 2: on themselves, Like now, why would you need that?
Speaker 3: Face towards enemy? You get face towards enemy, and you're fuck.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I as I roll into my mid forties and the
Speaker 2: memory gets starting to get fucking the memory is full.
Speaker 2: Having my children's birthday is tattooed on me might not
Speaker 2: be the fucking worst thing I could have. And I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what else I put it on there? Throw
Speaker 2: on wedding anniversaries and me mom's birthday.
Speaker 1: Tom wilerrat why don't you tattoo tattoo.
Speaker 2: On me, like when the NCT is due, because if
Speaker 2: you ask me any of that ship rolling, Yeah, when's
Speaker 2: the transport?
Speaker 1: Fucking hang on?
Speaker 3: Do you know what we'll do? You know we'll do.
Speaker 4: I can start this rat we can get I create
Speaker 4: a link tree, right, a link tree, and basically it's
Speaker 4: just a landing page and you can put in a
Speaker 4: whole list of all those things you need linked to
Speaker 4: Google cannger, and we'll create a QR code that we
Speaker 4: can get tattooed somewhere on you and you can just
Speaker 4: put the phone on it whenever you need it and
Speaker 4: it'll have all that shit in there.
Speaker 2: And QR code is cool. That'd be a code is
Speaker 2: cool time. But like what happens is if my age
Speaker 2: and starts a saga wee but and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: that QR code sends me to a fucking Lost Profits
Speaker 2: fan club website.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a It's never too late for us anyway,
Speaker 4: jar because the out lad who would be unquestionably holy man,
Speaker 4: not the tattoo on yourself.
Speaker 3: It's against God, but maybe it is. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but he.
Speaker 4: He must have been sixty five sixty seven, maybe decided
Speaker 4: gone to fuck for the crack and he got a
Speaker 4: tattoo on his forearm and it was the out one's name,
Speaker 4: because you know what, it was maybe time to make
Speaker 4: it a serious goal things.
Speaker 1: I suppose that's yeah here.
Speaker 4: I think that was her joke because she was like,
Speaker 4: oh yeh, Jesus Christ, what is he doing.
Speaker 3: She was like, you're too old for a mid like crisis.
Speaker 4: But I suppose in one way, it's nice to you're
Speaker 4: committed to the situation now at.
Speaker 1: Least yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: The only other funny thing that he could get in
Speaker 2: his arm there if you say, ah, fuck it go on, yeah,
Speaker 2: tattoo that on.
Speaker 3: I like that. Maybe a phrase, a phrase to use
Speaker 3: it like this.
Speaker 4: I saw a sign the other day, beautifully done sign,
Speaker 4: and it was in I thought it was in a
Speaker 4: movie or TV show and it was really nicely done
Speaker 4: and oak and everyone you're looking at it going, oh,
Speaker 4: that's a nice looking sign with a nice post and
Speaker 4: everything on it, and when you look closely at it said,
Speaker 4: this sign means absolutely nothing at all.
Speaker 1: And I like that.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'd like to get that keep walking.
Speaker 2: Well came here if ever we needed to hear from
Speaker 2: the Tom and Jerry Show audience about tattooings and their
Speaker 2: and their opinions and indeed the amount of them that
Speaker 2: they have let us know in the comments. You'll find
Speaker 2: us on Instagram. It is where you'll get us at
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Speaker 2: but definitely we're doing our best to not just put
Speaker 2: up our Tom and Jerry content, but also just like
Speaker 2: fun ship for men.
Speaker 4: People you're on fire lately and anything anything I find
Speaker 4: that is quintessentially oz that's on brand that just makes
Speaker 4: us laugh. I sent it over to Jerry and he's on.
Speaker 1: Fire with you.
Speaker 3: Did you put up one yesterday?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was texting, wife, have you used my good my
Speaker 4: good conditioner? A picture of this guy that looked if
Speaker 4: you imagine Kenny Kenny Rodgers air blow like air right
Speaker 4: into a pure fluff ball. And it was underneath the
Speaker 4: text us my balls we essentially brilliant stuff.
Speaker 2: With one just just landed in from young William Ryan
Speaker 2: there sent us in a picture of a man who
Speaker 2: passed away today, too late for us to mention him.
Speaker 2: On the show, Bill Oddie passed away and yeah, there
Speaker 2: you go, and there's Bill Oddie as a young man.
Speaker 2: William comments that he looks like Tom on his confirmation day.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tweet that one, Ryan, thank you very
Speaker 2: much for that.
Speaker 1: What else we want is find.
Speaker 4: People to do as I look at the lads, go
Speaker 4: hit follow on whatever platform you're on. And if you
Speaker 4: can't hit the reminder belt because it pings straight into
Speaker 4: your phone or device, or maybe you'll just listen to
Speaker 4: us on the car every single Thursday morning. If you
Speaker 4: can't give us a rating, two fair folks, everybody you're
Speaker 4: rating every single week and keeping it at five stars.
Speaker 3: It's tremendous and makes the more visible to everybody else.
Speaker 4: I want to hear what tattoos you've gotten, what tattoos
Speaker 4: you're thinking again, and what shit tattoos you've gotten. You
Speaker 4: can pose them in the comments, probably under Spotify is fine,
Speaker 4: but we'll definitely see them on Instagram. Also, did you
Speaker 4: know who like?
Speaker 3: I mean opinions on that man? What a legend.
Speaker 4: But maybe we could leave it up if some of
Speaker 4: the guests they send us on another legend too.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing legends that they've come across.
Speaker 4: There's a few form of kind of what the fucks
Speaker 4: that we've come across.
Speaker 2: All any week we can take an error out of
Speaker 2: the research for this Sho'll just say, look at this
Speaker 2: got sent in.
Speaker 1: We'll take that.
Speaker 3: I like it because you know what it is.
Speaker 4: It's already going to the source of the people that
Speaker 4: are kind of into the things that we come out with.
Speaker 4: So if you have a legend that would make fit
Speaker 4: a good this led, send it along where you at
Speaker 4: the game at the weekend.
Speaker 3: What are your feelings on it? Are you from Kerry?
Speaker 4: Are you thinking fuck Mayo? And if you are this
Speaker 4: whole show, let us let us know other than that
Speaker 4: you're I have a as we both know, a go to
Speaker 4: get into a fucking fisticufs with. So other than that,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to head on out of the range
Speaker 4: Mayo for some.
Speaker 10: Help.
Speaker 4: Then