WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:02.399 All right, let's get a dry time. 2 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:06.320 Friday afternoon, sixteen minutes past the hour of two o'clock. 3 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:08.839 We're a little late today because Scott Mitchell told me 4 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:11.279 about a dream he had where he was naked. So 5 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:13.519 we're starting to show off like that. Thank you, Scott, 6 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:17.960 filling in for Sean today, misbehave during cross talk. Happy 7 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.000 Friday to you. Congratulations, you made it. It is time 8 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:23.199 for the weekend. You did the things all week. You 9 00:00:23.280 --> 00:00:27.559 showed up, drug yourself out of bed, got everything done, 10 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:29.280 and now you made it to the weekend. Take a big, 11 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.079 old deep breath. Happy Friday to you. It's time for 12 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:35.359 a weekend edition of the radio show. It's good to 13 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:36.920 have you with us. My name is Spence check ITTs, 14 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:40.039 hosting the program today, Porter Larson behind the glass, producing, 15 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:43.320 booking and doing all the things making sure we behave 16 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:45.159 and stay on air. We got a lot to get 17 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.000 to on the show today. The Utah Jazz are back 18 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:50.840 in action tonight. If you're into unwatchable basketball, they're going 19 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:53.640 to take on the Indiana Pacers at five o'clock Mountain Time. 20 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:56.880 Pacers are playing for things that matter. They might play hard. 21 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:59.719 The Jazz, of course, are intent on losing as much 22 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:03.920 as the possibly can to draft Cooper Flag, who today 23 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:06.280 was named the AP Player of the Year. He's only 24 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:09.799 the fourth freshman in the history of that award too, 25 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:12.680 to win it at that age. So we'll do some 26 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.680 Final Four. We'll get you ready for what should be 27 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:16.200 two really good games tomorrow. 28 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:17.959 College basketball. 29 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:20.560 We'll get to some of that on the program today, 30 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.879 the women's Final Four as well, Don Staley, Gino ari 31 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:27.519 Ema Butt night of NBA basketball last night, really good 32 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:31.560 game in Los Angeles between the Lakers and the Warriors, 33 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:33.920 and of course the NBA rolls on tonight. Only a 34 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:37.359 handful of games down the stretch. Come it's time to 35 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:39.879 clinch the playoff seeds and such and then play for 36 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.680 some postseason awards. So we'll get to some of that 37 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.640 on the program today. Utah men's basketball has a second 38 00:01:47.840 --> 00:01:51.359 piece of the puzzle dialed in. It is a transfer. 39 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:56.439 We'll tell you who that is. After Keanu daz withdrew 40 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:58.599 his name from the transfer portal and decided to come 41 00:01:58.640 --> 00:02:01.840 back to play for aj half next year, the Utah 42 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:05.599 men's basketball program locked in a transfer today and we'll 43 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:07.799 tell you about them. Put up some really, really good 44 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:10.400 numbers a year ago at Fairleigh Dickinson. We'll get into 45 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:13.759 that on the show RSL Back in Action tomorrow. 46 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:15.479 They welcome in the. 47 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:18.319 LA Galaxy for a two to thirty kick an early 48 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:22.159 kick out of America First Field in Sandy, Utah spring 49 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:24.560 football roles on. There's gonna be a scrimmage tomorrow that 50 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:28.400 we're actually allowed to attend, which is nice. So we'll 51 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:31.240 see what sort of information we can gather at Utah 52 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:33.639 football scrimmage tomorrow. Of course we'll bring that to you 53 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.639 coming up on the shows next week. Major League Baseball 54 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.039 is underway. We've got a little golf to talk about 55 00:02:42.039 --> 00:02:44.560 as well. It's the Valero Texas Open. It's the final 56 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:48.520 tune up before the Masters and Augusta coming up next weekend. 57 00:02:48.520 --> 00:02:52.039 We are just a few weeks away from the NFL Draft. 58 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:55.120 Shod Or Sanders Travis Hunter on display today at Colorado's 59 00:02:55.159 --> 00:02:58.319 Pro Day. Discuss this a little bit. Yesterday Caleb Loher 60 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.599 tried out for the Dallas Cowboy, So we'll see where 61 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:05.039 the Utes and the Cougars end up going drafted undrafted 62 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:08.960 free agency in such NFL draft. Right around the corner, 63 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:12.639 our first guest right out of the Gates the goat himself, 64 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:14.240 Adam Klitch from KU TV. 65 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:16.400 I was on TV with ad him this week. 66 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.199 Usually do the TV hits with Dave Fox, but Dave 67 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:22.520 is taking another one of his extensive vacations. As Dave 68 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.639 has been a media member in this market for forty 69 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:26.800 years without ever working a day in his life, So 70 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:28.919 shout out to Dave Fox. But I was on TV 71 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:31.280 with Adam this week. So we're gonna bring Adam in 72 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:34.960 and we're gonna just talk about the local sports landscape. 73 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.439 It's our weekly conversation with Zach Harper. We'll get a 74 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:41.400 little Valero Texas open primer and do some Augusta with 75 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:44.919 Paul pug Meyer, some Masters with Pugs today, Thor Nystrom, 76 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:47.400 friend of the show, stops by for some NFL Draft 77 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:52.319 and then one of our celebrity reporters, Dave mcminnimon, we'll 78 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.319 stop by later on on the show. So Adam, Miklich, 79 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:59.400 Zach Harper, Paul Pugmyer, Thorne Eistrom, Dave mcminnimon, Me Spence check, Ats, 80 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:01.360 all of you the great listeners, Happy Friday, and that 81 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:06.719 guy Porter Larson Scott Mitchell. Right out of the Gates 82 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:09.520 Hits me with a dream that ended up with him 83 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:10.439 naked on a scale. 84 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:13.759 I don't really know what to say about that. 85 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.240 Do you have any reoccurring dreams you'd like to share 86 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:16.879 with our audience. 87 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:21.560 I don't really have any reoccurring dreams. But to maybe 88 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.680 make it less uncomfortable, I think most people are dreaming 89 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:27.839 naked unless you're sleeping in a bunch of clothes. Aren't 90 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:29.480 you with naked in most of your dreams. 91 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:31.959 I don't want to talk about this anymore. I didn't 92 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:33.279 think you were going to take this direction. 93 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:35.439 Yeah, I'm always naked when I'm dreaming. 94 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.120 So whenever you have a dream and you yourself you're 95 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:40.720 in the dream, you're not wearing any clothes. 96 00:04:41.800 --> 00:04:43.879 No, I'll be wearing clothes in the dream I'm sleeping. 97 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:44.079 No. 98 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.639 I wasn't saying Scott was naked while he was dreaming. 99 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:48.959 He had a dream about himself being naked while he 100 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:52.040 was competing in the Biggest Loser. Okay, okay, I have 101 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:54.800 no problem with anybody sleepy nude. I just don't need 102 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:56.800 to hear about your dreams where you end up naked 103 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:58.680 on a scale. It just ruins my friday. 104 00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:01.360 Well, that became a reality thing. I know he wasn't 105 00:05:01.399 --> 00:05:05.240 like fully naked on the scale on whatever channel that was, 106 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:08.199 But once Biggest Loser came around, he was in his 107 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:12.040 underwear on a scale on syndicated television. 108 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:13.720 So hey, fun times. 109 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.759 You know what, Let's move on, why because it's time 110 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:20.240 for the opening tip man. We've got business to take 111 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:20.560 care of. 112 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:22.000 It seems like the story of the day. 113 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.040 We'll get back to Scott Mitchell being naked on a 114 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:26.879 scale later, but Adam Miklitch is going to join us 115 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:28.560 before we get to Adam. 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Terrence Brown, a sophomore transfer 157 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:29.439 from Fairleigh Dickinson University, has committed to play for AJ 158 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:33.120 coach Chilius, Wes will Cox, and whoever else the staff 159 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:37.399 is the As the story goes, Terrence Brown knows Ralphael Chilius. 160 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.319 Remember when coach chill that's his nickname. I still need 161 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.639 a cool nickname because you know, it seems like everybody 162 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:46.680 hasn't accept me. But after the hiring of coach Chilius, 163 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:49.480 a lot of people talked about the ties that he 164 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:54.160 has around the country to AAU basketball, high school basketball, 165 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:57.079 college basketball, to pros. He's been on all four levels 166 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.160 essentially and is known as a high level recruiter. So 167 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:03.839 Terrence Brown familiar with Ralphael chilias and apparently that's the 168 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.759 relationship it landed Terrence here in Salt Lake to play 169 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.720 for the University of Utah. Now Terrence Brown as a 170 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:14.920 sophomore transfer. According to ON three, he is a four 171 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:20.120 star transfer portal rating athlete. His portal Composite ranking is 172 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:22.240 ninety one point three to three, that is out of 173 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.439 one hundred. So he's played a couple of years at FDU. 174 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.399 His freshman year last season, played twenty one minutes, about 175 00:08:30.399 --> 00:08:33.519 twenty two minutes a night. He averaged eight points, averaged 176 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.000 about three rebounds to assists. He is a wing about 177 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:40.679 six three sixty four one seventy five and he had 178 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:44.360 a great year this last year. So played about thirty 179 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:46.919 five minutes a night. Shot forty five percent from the floor, 180 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:49.120 thirty percent from three. You want to see that up 181 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:52.200 a little bit, seventy six percent from the line. But 182 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:55.559 how do you like twenty one points, six rebounds, three 183 00:08:55.639 --> 00:09:00.960 assists for Fairleigh Dickinson University as Tarrence Brown is now 184 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.399 going to be a University of Utah. 185 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:06.000 You so there you go. You can follow Terrence. 186 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:09.679 Looks like his Twitter or ex or whatever the hell 187 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:15.399 Elon's calling of these days at Terrence T. Brown, if 188 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.720 you want to give him a nice welcome as he 189 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:22.600 joins the University of Utah as Alex's second piece of 190 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:27.480 the puzzle. We talked about this yesterday on Let's see 191 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:29.840 Now that would have been yesterday. Yesterday was the start 192 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.840 of the dead period in college basketball recruiting. So what 193 00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:37.960 that means is you cannot have any athletes on campus. 194 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.039 There are no in person visits. It only lasts a week. 195 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:43.240 It's just like, Okay, let's get the final four done, 196 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.360 let's get the season behind us, and then you're allowed 197 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:48.519 to kind of recalibrate and do the face to face 198 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:52.159 stuff and have players on campus. So according to Deshaun London, 199 00:09:52.240 --> 00:09:56.279 he reported yesterday that Terrence Brown had a zoom call 200 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:59.279 with Alex Jensen coach Chilius. 201 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.879 My guess is was on that call as well. 202 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.159 So again, twenty one point six boards, three assists put 203 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.279 up some great numbers for fairly Dickinson University. 204 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:10.840 And you know, before you roll your eyes. 205 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:15.559 As far as FDU, there are a ton of players, 206 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:19.600 including Johnny Broom who plays for Auburn, who played at 207 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:21.799 small schools a year ago and are playing for the 208 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:25.320 best schools in the country right now. Okay, so this 209 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:26.759 is a model that has worked for a lot of 210 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.559 different teams fairly. Dickinson University, of course, is not a 211 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:32.879 P four school, and it's not a scenario where you 212 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:34.919 know you're gonna be blown away by the competition that 213 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.679 he played against. But this is a model. You know, 214 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.799 you go find a player that put up some really 215 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:44.559 good numbers at a smaller school, and then you do 216 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:47.000 your calculus and your calculation about whether or not you 217 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:50.399 think that can translate, and then you give him an 218 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.200 opportunity to play a little P four Big twelve action. 219 00:10:53.879 --> 00:10:55.720 So we'll get to know this player a little bit more. 220 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:57.480 Six' three looks like he was more of like a 221 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:00.840 lead kind of combo guard FOR. Fdu but, again can really. 222 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:04.080 Score probably want to see that three point shooting percentage 223 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.799 up a little bit from thirty percent as he continues 224 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:08.960 to grow, up and only. Sophomore he'll be a junior 225 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:12.679 here playing FOR aj coming up coming up next. Year 226 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.559 so as we've been talking, about we have been waiting 227 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:18.240 for a word about exactly how this team is going to. 228 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:23.600 Look it's impossible to analyze really anything about AJ's first 229 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:25.480 year in The big. Twelve without knowing who his players 230 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:28.039 are going to. Be so we Have kiana daz out 231 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.279 of The Transfer portal committed to play for The utes next. 232 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:34.440 Year Now Terrence, brown a very highly thought of transfer 233 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:37.240 out Of Fairleigh Dickinson university with a composite rating of 234 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:39.200 ninety one point three to three out of one hundred 235 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.679 and a four Star Transfer portal. Rating he has landed 236 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:44.519 here In Salt Lake It he'll play For alex coming 237 00:11:44.600 --> 00:11:49.200 up next. Year Terrence brown a six' to three junior transfer. 238 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:52.120 Rising junior he'll be a junior. Next year, six three 239 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.840 one seventy five As, From. Minneapolis minnesota played his first 240 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:01.320 two years of college Basketball At Fairley. Dickens university shout 241 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.480 Out To Fairleigh, Dickinson Madison, new Jersey The. NORTHEAST conference 242 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:08.559 i twenty point per game score as. A sawft he 243 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:10.720 has transferred To the University of utah to Play For. 244 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:14.759 Alex jensen so piece number two of the puzzle is now, 245 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:19.320 in place, All Right adam miklich. The Goat, ALTHOUGH adam i. 246 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:22.399 Am disappointed i'm looking across from myself in. THE studio 247 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:23.960 i don't see across from. ME man i thought we 248 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.039 were doing this. In Person. WHAT'RE gibbs i. 249 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.000 Am, so. SORRY man i just kind of cut up 250 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:31.159 doing some marines and stuff TODAY and i got to 251 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.279 be into the station here at three o'clock on, the 252 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.039 NOSE so i didn't WANT to i didn't want to 253 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.200 cut it too. Close today sorry, about. That man there's 254 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.240 nothing like doing, radio studio especially. With. 255 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:40.159 You no, All good? 256 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:42.080 All Good Because dave fox is on another. 257 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.960 LENGTHY vacation i just need to, ask you How has 258 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:47.360 dave had a forty year career without ever working? A 259 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:51.200 day just out, of Curiosity because i'm. Honestly impressed he's 260 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:53.360 like a mentor. Of mine forty years in this business 261 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:54.600 without ever working. A, day. 262 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:57.399 Well that's, the, Goal right and there's two schools. That side. 263 00:12:57.440 --> 00:12:59.480 You know there's the old cliche find something you love 264 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:01.320 doing every day of the rest of your life and 265 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.039 never work in another day of the rest of. Your 266 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.840 life I'm calling bs on that from the top of. 267 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:08.840 Mountains fence it's just not that easy for. Our generation 268 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:10.960 let's put it. This way when it Comes To, Dave 269 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:14.159 fox he's got a lot of quality people that he surrounds, 270 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.320 himself With and i'd like TO think i fit into. 271 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:19.000 That umbrella so when you've got a nice umbrella like that, 272 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:20.879 going life life can be, pretty. 273 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:23.240 Smooth, well said and. We tease we love, our ged 274 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:23.960 we love Our. 275 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:26.440 Guy dave but Of course adam meglitch, the Goat, AND 276 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:30.240 adam i refer to you as the goat, because somehow, 277 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:34.840 some way regardless of how dire the circumstance, or situation 278 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:39.919 you hit us with positivity and anecdotes that kind of 279 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.399 bring a smile to people's faces even when stories. ARE 280 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:45.320 hard i wonder where that. COMES from I wish i 281 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:47.240 was more. Like that where where where's that approach? 282 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:50.240 Come from oh, that's seriously that's just about one of 283 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:52.120 the nicest things anybody said to me in a really. 284 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:55.960 Long time in all, SIN charity i have really really. 285 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:59.559 Good Parents and i'm one of those, guys too where, 286 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:05.600 YOU know i don't have. Children myself so when you 287 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:08.720 talk with somebody and you get to, know somebody there's 288 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.200 something that they bring up quite, a, Bit right and 289 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:14.000 so anybody who has kids they love talking about. Their 290 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:17.080 kids they've got pictures of their kids on their cell phone. 291 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.440 OR pets i don't have a, Pet too SO when 292 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.039 i come up on CONVERSATION and i talk about good 293 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:25.200 things that are going on in, my life it somehow 294 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:27.519 always comes back to my mom, and dad who are my. 295 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:30.360 Best friends my dad IS what i like to refer 296 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.279 to As a Hall of fame caliber track and cross. 297 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:36.480 Country coach going, back home so, my house, growing up 298 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:39.600 sitting down at the dinner table together was a. Big 299 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:42.200 thing athletics were a huge part of. Our existence. YOU 300 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:43.919 know i was taught to try and break a sweat 301 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.240 every day and just put your best. Foot forward and. 302 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.320 SO again i was raised in a really really good 303 00:14:50.399 --> 00:14:54.759 household with two really, loving PARENTS and I guess i 304 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:57.399 just try and spread the love around and pay it 305 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:59.080 FORWARD whenever, i Can because i'm a pretty. 306 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:01.879 Lucky guy i'm so a pretty. Big dude for people 307 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.559 that don't know This, about adam are you? Six three 308 00:15:04.799 --> 00:15:07.000 it feels like you're about. Six three i'm. 309 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.720 Six four i'd like to be about. Two ten i'm 310 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:13.519 a little bit heavier. Than that and one of the 311 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.279 funniest things, About, me SPENCE is i have a size 312 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:19.559 seventeen Shoe and i've worn to size seventeen SHOES since 313 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:22.120 i was sixteen. Years old it's one of the weirdest 314 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:26.200 things about me and as a kid who was sixteen 315 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:29.559 and nineteen, ninety four so this is Before the internet and. 316 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.200 Before everything my life, was very, very weird trying to 317 00:15:33.240 --> 00:15:36.240 get shoes and trying to fit in as a normal 318 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:39.200 member of society with feet that were way too big 319 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:39.480 for my. 320 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.200 Own good we are the very. SAME age i don't 321 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:44.000 KNOW that i knew that. UNTIL now i was also 322 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:47.799 sixteen in nineteen, ninety FOUR because i bring it like 323 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:48.320 were you? 324 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:50.200 AN athlete i don't even know this, About you like 325 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:51.000 what did you play? 326 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:53.320 Growing up SO when i. 327 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:56.080 Was growing up like any, other kid the first SPORT 328 00:15:56.080 --> 00:15:58.639 that i got into, was SOCCER and i was actually 329 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.519 really good, at it was a really. Good midfielder and 330 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:05.080 then if you look up my Hometown the Wikipedia, Page, 331 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:08.519 snahomish washington one of the claims to fame is that 332 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:11.799 there was a semi pro soccer team that rolled through 333 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.440 there by the Name Of, snohomich United And sahamich united 334 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.399 started As a premier league team for thirteen fourteen fifteen 335 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.559 year olds and it was a traveling CREW and i 336 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:23.759 was actually on the First Ever snahamis. United team so 337 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:25.559 soccer was a huge part of. MY life i loved 338 00:16:25.559 --> 00:16:28.600 playing it THE reason i was a pretty. Good, MIDFIELDER again, 339 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.279 I say i Have a Hall of fame caliber track 340 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:34.279 and cross country coach for. A father i was a 341 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.279 distance runner. GROWING up i ran my first competitive race 342 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.519 in about. First grade hung on my dad's coattails and 343 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:43.559 just running was a huge part of, our life AND 344 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.320 so i had a ton. Of INSURANCE so i made 345 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.159 a mid midfielder because you never had to pull me from. 346 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:51.480 A game and, Then again i'm a little bit big 347 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:53.919 to be a. Distance runner SO once i started growing 348 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.000 up and growing into what would be my, adult body 349 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:02.159 a guy who's five eleven sixty size seventeen shoe doesn't 350 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.599 make a lot of sense to be running competitively in three. 351 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:07.440 Mile races but IT'S something i. Stuck with but THEN 352 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:10.839 when i, quit BASKETBALL when i quit basketball in the, 353 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:15.400 EIGHTH grade i dip myself into a pool and that 354 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:16.440 is what became. 355 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:18.480 My CALLING so I was i Was An all. 356 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.599 American breaststroker it's the homis high school and By, all 357 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:24.839 american it doesn't MEAN that, i was, you know an absolute. 358 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:27.240 WORLD beater i just swam a good enough time to get. 359 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.680 That CONSIDERATION but i was. A BREASTROKER and i swam the, 360 00:17:30.720 --> 00:17:33.240 individual MEDLEY and i really wanted to be a. COLLEGE 361 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:35.440 athlete i wanted to be a swimmer. In college the 362 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:37.519 only PROBLEM was i just wasn't. Good ENOUGH so i 363 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:40.599 had a huge. WORK ethic i lived at. THE pool 364 00:17:40.680 --> 00:17:44.079 i was, a lifeguard, swim teacher AND if i wasn't 365 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.160 in the classroom or, AT home i was at, the 366 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:49.759 POOL and i poured my heart and soul. Into THEM 367 00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.319 and i absolutely love. That stuff athletics was, a huge 368 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:53.839 huge part of my life and a huge part of 369 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:55.680 THE reason i got into THE business i. 370 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:58.640 Got into so let's transition. Over there for, our audience 371 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:01.240 it isn't Familiar because adam's not a very consistent guest. 372 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:04.920 Of ours So like i've always found this interesting for 373 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:07.119 guys to kind of do what YOU and, i do 374 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:09.720 and we have, different jobs we're in the. Same ecosystem 375 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:12.920 you have guys like us that played sports, growing up 376 00:18:13.880 --> 00:18:17.160 and then you HAVE, and I honestly i'm not judging 377 00:18:17.200 --> 00:18:19.480 one way or. The other but, FOR instance i an 378 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:21.880 eagle who is a good friend of, the show and 379 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:23.920 as A guy i've known my entire LIFE like i 380 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.759 and will, tell you do not throw a football, AT 381 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:27.720 me i don't know what to do. 382 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.119 With it but he wanted to be a broadcaster when 383 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:30.359 he was. 384 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:33.000 Like, Eight right so you have a lot of play by, 385 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.079 play guys and most of the play by play guys 386 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:38.359 in our market breaking news there are. Not athletes then 387 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:40.279 you have guys that tried to play sports. 388 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:41.000 LIKE you. 389 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:43.359 I want i wanted to be the starting point guard For. 390 00:18:43.359 --> 00:18:45.920 THE knicks i mean that was. My thing and, YOU 391 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:48.400 know i PLAYED until i was about NINETEEN when i 392 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:50.839 tried to play against pros AND then, I, realized okay 393 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:52.200 if you want to be, around this you got to 394 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.079 find something else. To do so what kind of lit 395 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.680 the fire for you to follow? This path and how 396 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:58.319 did you land in? 397 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:02.000 Our market that's a, great question and it's actually SOMETHING 398 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.759 that i really liked talking about because you're, right there 399 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.640 there are many many different kinds of, you know professional 400 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.759 sports casters. Walking around some of the smartest ones when 401 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:13.079 it comes to the analytics and the x's and o's 402 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:16.160 and maybe memorizing stats and things like that are guys 403 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:19.480 that weren't. Athletes themselves they just fell in love with 404 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:22.759 the sport and probably there's a certain sense of living 405 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:25.480 vicariously through it now when it comes to me and 406 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:27.359 the one SPORT that i, left out you know when 407 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:29.559 talking about you know what made me TICK when i was, 408 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:32.640 growing UP all i wanted to DO when i was 409 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:37.079 maybe ten through sixteen was. Played baseball that was another 410 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:39.119 SPORT that i played and unfortunately had to give up 411 00:19:39.119 --> 00:19:41.759 at one POINT because i just wasn't. Good Enough But Holy, 412 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.079 TOLEDO spence i was the biggest, baseball fan baseball. CARD 413 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:48.960 collector i grew up about forty forty Minutes, from SEATTLE 414 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:51.960 and i would DO everything i could talk my dad 415 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:54.160 and to take Me to. Mariners games and it wasn't just, 416 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:56.640 you know to go sit in the know in our 417 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:58.880 seats and watch. The game it was to go down 418 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:01.440 and try and meet the players and take a handful 419 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:03.799 of baseball cards and trying to get autographs and stuff. 420 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:06.440 Like that and then it was a really really. STRANGE 421 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:10.559 twist i was actually playing On a pony state championship 422 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:13.599 TEAM when i was fourteen, years OLD and i was 423 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.480 still clinging to this IDEA that i could work hard 424 00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:19.200 enough and probably grew up to be a professional. Baseball 425 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:21.559 player one DAY and i was just kind of crossing 426 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:24.559 that threshold of being a little more realistic as a. 427 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:26.319 HUMAN being i feel like once you get into, high 428 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:29.240 school he kind of have to start facing. Certain realities 429 00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.599 and at, one POINT and i think my DAD and 430 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:35.279 i had just. Wrapped up, he was, you know he 431 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:38.000 was running marathons at, the time and so he would 432 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:40.839 run for, an hour hour and a half at our 433 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:44.359 local track AND then i would throw a baseball against 434 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:46.359 the wall while he, did that AND then i would 435 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:49.200 probably run, for maybe, you know the last ten minutes 436 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.720 with him something. Like That so i'm going on and 437 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:54.400 ON like i, always do about playing baseball AND maybe 438 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:56.279 i can be a switch hitter and this and that 439 00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:58.640 and the. Other thing and for, whatever reason my dad 440 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:01.880 had finally had it and he, Just, said adam you're, 441 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:04.519 my SON and i, love you but you are never 442 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:08.400 going to be a professional. Baseball player and it just broke. 443 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:12.400 My HEART and i, trust me there's a happy ending to. 444 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:15.920 This story AND so i was so kind of irritated, 445 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:18.279 By IT like i walked into the house and had 446 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:22.960 tears in my eyes and didn't pick a fight with 447 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:24.759 my dad or anything. LIKE that i just kind of 448 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:27.319 had to let it sit. And digest and then it 449 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:29.559 was probably a couple of, DAYS later i thought, to 450 00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:33.079 myself you, know what, he's right and good for him 451 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.319 for actually saying something. Like THAT but i didn't want 452 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:40.599 to let the dream die necessarily like. Right there SO 453 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.720 what i DID is i thought, to myself WHAT can? 454 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:46.279 I do WHAT can i possibly do with myself to 455 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:48.599 MAKE sure i stay as close to the arena? As 456 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:51.759 possible HOW can i figure out a way to go 457 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:54.160 to baseball games for the rest of? My Life and 458 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:56.240 i've got a famous uncle by the Name Of rick 459 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.559 lukens who's a Sportscaster, and spokane and by him being, 460 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.440 on television he was with THE local abc In m 461 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:07.720 spokane for. Thirty years with him being, on television it 462 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:09.640 was kind of a REALITY that i might be able 463 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.359 to do THIS if i go to school and pay 464 00:22:12.359 --> 00:22:14.960 attention and set goals and try and run. Him DOWN 465 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:19.440 so i decided then instead of being a, baseball player 466 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:21.720 probably the next best thing would be to be a 467 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:26.079 sportscaster and get to interview people At The king Dome 468 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:29.720 and seattle and lo, AND behold I think i'm twenty 469 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:32.440 two years old Working At Fox Sports north Class, in 470 00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:35.599 seattle and wasn't one hundred percent SURE that i wanted 471 00:22:35.640 --> 00:22:37.799 to go to the career path that this is RIGHT 472 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:40.480 after i Graduated from wazoo and it was the first, 473 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.119 time that, you know a reporter took me on a 474 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:44.799 story with THEM and i got to help out. With 475 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:47.839 IT and i called my mom at her office at 476 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:51.839 home from the field At safegu FIELD and i, just, Said, 477 00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:55.000 Hey mom i'm going to be. A sportscaster and, she, 478 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.279 said well, good honey go. For it and then the 479 00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:59.279 rest is kind. Of, history sorry that was a, long 480 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:00.960 story but that's that's the truth, Right. 481 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:03.240 There ADAM as i say it all, MY guests i 482 00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:04.599 have four hours of space. 483 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:06.759 To fill you can take forty five minutes if. 484 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:11.799 You'd like so you've you've been here for fifteen, sixteen 485 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:12.960 years it, feels. 486 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:14.920 Better, right yeah it'll be fifteen Years. 487 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:15.000 In. 488 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.079 July okay so here's THE question i wanted to get 489 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:22.160 to as we move into kind of where we find ourselvesselves. 490 00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:25.920 Here locally, You know i've got a kind of unique 491 00:23:26.359 --> 00:23:28.920 paradigm when it comes to this COMMUNITY because i was 492 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:32.680 born here and then moved and grew, up elsewhere and 493 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:34.960 then came back and went to, college here so it's 494 00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:37.680 kind of home and then kind of. Isn't home it's 495 00:23:37.720 --> 00:23:41.160 been home essentially for twenty five, straight years so and it's. 496 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:42.720 GOOD living i love it here. For sure IT'S why 497 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:46.359 i choose to. Live HERE and i am pretty STUNNED 498 00:23:46.359 --> 00:23:50.599 when i take a step back and consider how much 499 00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.839 we have grown as a sporting market. IN community i 500 00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.079 would SAY since i was in school At the University 501 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:58.960 of utah in the. LATE nineties, i mean it's. Pretty stunning, 502 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:01.559 of course we have additional properties Like ray Al saw 503 00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:03.920 lake and the, hockey club but we also have evolved 504 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:09.039 into this really undeniable college, football market and WE'RE an, 505 00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:11.640 nba market even though our team right now is on serious. 506 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.599 About winning how have you seen our market change and 507 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:15.799 grow in your fifteen. 508 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.880 Years, here yeah that's a really. Good question and again 509 00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:21.559 it's another thing that the keepshin coming back here after 510 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.759 year because, you know not ONLY do i have some, 511 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.400 STABILITY here i mean, you know the fact that there's 512 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.480 still multiple radio stations that that cover sports in this 513 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:33.279 market is a real indicator of how strong it. 514 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:35.839 Is here the, Multiple, STATIONS adam I didn't i thought 515 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:42.240 there was only, one MAN and, i, apologize well and, you. 516 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.480 Know ALL four tv stations still, do sports and sports 517 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:47.079 is the first thing to go when when times get. 518 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.559 Up again, YOU know i always mentioned Them, from SEATTLE and, 519 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:52.960 i Am and seattle's a good, sports town but it's it's. 520 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.200 Fair weather it's not like it is here with with. 521 00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:58.640 THE diehards, i mean People in seattle have lots of 522 00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:01.920 other things that they'd, rather do rather, go do than watch. 523 00:25:01.960 --> 00:25:06.480 SPORTING events i grew up with a Love for UTAH 524 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:09.079 because i Was a, sonics fan And the sonics And 525 00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:12.839 the jazz had great rivalries over. The years my brother 526 00:25:12.920 --> 00:25:16.559 used To Impersonate jeff hornisack in the backyard whenever he'd 527 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.319 be chewed up a. Three ball and so. It's funny 528 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:22.720 it took me moving HERE because i had this this 529 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.039 Remembrance Of Salt. Lake city and, you know, of course 530 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:28.039 my my my career path took me in A southeast 531 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.039 sidaho and then a long waist. FROM home i Was, 532 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.839 In champagne ILLINOIS before i got my, job here and 533 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.000 SO when i, MOVED here i was hit with the 534 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.640 Realization that utah had become a. Football town and that 535 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.000 has everything to do with the success Of the University 536 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.240 of utah and a lot to do with what, you 537 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:48.039 know happens just down the Road in. Provo too they're 538 00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:52.440 absolutely sports, praised here and then, you know the jazz 539 00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:55.640 are are kind of the main attraction and they make 540 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:58.119 the whole world. Go AROUND but i think one of 541 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:01.400 the coolest things is the act that the hockey club 542 00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:03.880 has taken off the way that, it has and that's 543 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.240 the biggest Change that. I'VE noticed i think people here 544 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:11.319 are absolutely, sports crazed and the pulse of that has 545 00:26:11.359 --> 00:26:13.759 only gone Up since i've. Been here but with the, 546 00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.319 hockey club it's like. ANYTHING else i like to call 547 00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:18.839 it an experiment when it's just, taking off and when 548 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:21.559 it's just, GETTING legs i no longer referred to it as. 549 00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.279 An experiment and the first whole season isn't. Done yet 550 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:29.200 this town has absolutely wrapped itself around. That club the 551 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.799 atmospheres are so different and so rocking and so. Much 552 00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:37.400 FUN and I Think salt lake has not changed as 553 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:40.000 a sports Market since i've, been here but it just 554 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.319 continues and continues to. Impress me and then let's be. 555 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:45.480 HONEST too, i mean we meet a lot of people 556 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.400 who are like minded in the industry from, different places 557 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:50.119 and they all just kind of sit back and marvel 558 00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.559 the fact that we've got, a really really good thing. 559 00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:55.640 GOING here i don't think the place, has changed but 560 00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.359 the fact that it has stayed the same and gotten 561 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.839 a little bit better rather than trend in the. Opposite 562 00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:05.599 direction that's what really really knocks my, socks off because 563 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:10.480 so many other places sports aren't gaining, in popularity they're 564 00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:12.599 actually waning. In popularity does that? Make? 565 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.079 Sense yeah and you know it's wild to consider If 566 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.720 the millers are able to successfully bring Us Major. LEAGUE baseball, 567 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:21.279 i mean, for you as a kid in growing Up, 568 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:24.319 in seattle can you imagine Covering a mariner's game three 569 00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:26.200 miles from where you're working right now? AT them. 570 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.559 I couldn't, and honestly, you know the stadium plans kind 571 00:27:29.599 --> 00:27:32.359 of stick To The rose, park area which IS where i. 572 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:35.200 LIVE now, i, mean honestly If A Major league baseball 573 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.640 stadium was built within five miles OF where i have 574 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:39.880 my home, RIGHT now i don't KNOW what I that 575 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.279 i'd be able to, contain myself and as a professional 576 00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.079 in this market and somebody. WHO relies, i mean we 577 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.519 cover sports for, a living, and honestly sometimes it can 578 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:52.319 be a. BIT much, i mean we have so much 579 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:54.680 to cover as, it is and then, don't forget, you 580 00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.640 know for someone like me who goes out and, shoots 581 00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.640 video the turn story is on a. DAILY basis i 582 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:02.559 get really enveloped in the spring high school. SPORTS season, 583 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.559 i mean you're gonna see me out at state championship, 584 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:08.000 soccer games softball and, baseball games things. Like that so 585 00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:10.599 there's already a ton. To cover so it'd be a 586 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.440 really really good problem to have to add one more professional. 587 00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:18.400 Franchise here and, YET again, i mean if, that happens it's, Gonna. 588 00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:21.400 Work spence nothing doesn't Work In Salt. Lake city these 589 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.200 are sports crazed humans here and it's a really wonderful place. 590 00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:27.200 To be so let's move over a couple questions about 591 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:29.079 the here, and now And then i'll set you LOOSE 592 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:31.279 because i know you got to get, to IT and 593 00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:35.079 i reference your ability or just your choice or whatever 594 00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:38.000 it is to wax positive regardless of what's. Going on And, 595 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:40.920 the jazz for the first time in fifty plus years, 596 00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.160 of basketball just lost their, sixtieth game and they've just 597 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.240 lost their sixty first and they're probably going to lose 598 00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:49.039 the rest of. The way so this is the deal, For. 599 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:51.079 ME adam, i mean, You know i'm a child of. 600 00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.319 This organization nobody wants me to, see them, you know 601 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:55.559 but nobody wants to see them win a championship MORE than. 602 00:28:55.599 --> 00:28:57.640 I do and they're doing the. 603 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:01.359 Right thing it just sucks like with the, you, know 604 00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:05.160 right like with the ecosystem OF the nba and the 605 00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:08.920 way that the league, is structured and, you know essentially 606 00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.279 how you kind of have to go about this because 607 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:14.960 of the way THAT the nba is, you know put 608 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.759 together to bring talent to certain markets based us to, 609 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.240 certain mechanisms NAMELY The. 610 00:29:19.319 --> 00:29:20.920 NBA draft i get. 611 00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:22.960 THE approach i think they should have done this two 612 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:24.559 years Ago When victor wemanamo. 613 00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:26.480 Was available but it is what. 614 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.839 It is what has been the biggest challenge in covering 615 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:32.559 a team that's unseerious? About winning and what are some 616 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:34.319 of the positive things that you've noticed? 617 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.359 This year and just to kind. 618 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:39.839 Of elaborate a little bit more for everybody, at home 619 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:43.640 how significant this season. HAS been i think the inaugural 620 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:46.480 Season of jazz basketball that Was In new orleans and 621 00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:50.599 what was it, seventy three Seventy four, i'm, closer, right yeah, 622 00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.039 huh yep twenty three wins total in the first, season 623 00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:59.000 EVER and i believe that's the all time fewest wins 624 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.559 For a jazz team. Single season they are going to 625 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:05.240 eclipse that if everything, goes well and as weird as 626 00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:08.440 that is, to sound they're Going to they're gonna set 627 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.079 a franchise record for the fewest wins in a. Single 628 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.559 season and it's. By design so here it's been a 629 00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:16.960 it's kind of been an evolution thing. FOR me i 630 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:21.079 wasn't ready to and AND AGAIN i i have because, 631 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.920 you know we're we're we on kJ ass KUTV on 632 00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:26.400 kjas and we Are the. Jazz station i'm, You KNOW 633 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.319 i'm i have an obligation to cover, this team and 634 00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.400 it's a wonderful obligation. To have i've been doing live 635 00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:36.240 Shots at jazz games, this year probably more so than any, 636 00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.519 time before and it's because we want to be there 637 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:40.400 and we want to we want to represent our product 638 00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.880 as best. We can and it took me a while 639 00:30:43.319 --> 00:30:45.160 to kind of evolve out of the Mode, of, okay 640 00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.319 well let's talk about. The positives they almost got the, 641 00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:51.079 win tonight and then finally, to, saying Okay the jazz, 642 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:53.599 last tonight and that's a that's that's a. Beautiful thing 643 00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:58.079 it's just. Absolutely weird but once it kind of became, 644 00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.480 You Know danny ames hasn't had a press, for instance 645 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.559 given us the exact blueprints of this, plan whatsoever but 646 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.599 it's it's implied that this is what they want, to 647 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:09.640 do if it makes Sense what i'm saying here. Right 648 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:13.200 now so just looking at the development of the youngsters 649 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:15.400 has has been Something that i've been trying to do 650 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.240 THE best. I can i've we had You On talking 651 00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:20.119 Jazz on tuesday night and YOU and i were just 652 00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:21.799 going on and on about how much we Like washing 653 00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.400 isaiah call. Your play so it has been kind of 654 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.480 a work, in progress and the hardest thing for me 655 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:31.200 to do was kind of allow myself to accept the 656 00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.200 fact that losing is by design when it comes to. 657 00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.359 This team AND once i let that kind, of go 658 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.920 it just became a little bit easier to focus on the. 659 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:42.920 Young talent and, you know the, other, thing too is the. 660 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:46.039 Locker room these guys kind of know who, they are 661 00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.839 AND so i kept waiting for it to get to 662 00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:51.720 a point where it would be really difficult to go 663 00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:54.079 in there and talk to. Those players but they've been terrific. 664 00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:57.440 This season they've made it easy to kind of look 665 00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:59.599 at the positive side of things and to know that 666 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.519 this is what the team needs to do to growth 667 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.119 in the. Right direction those kids in that locker room 668 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.160 have made it real easy to do, my JOB and 669 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.720 I guess i'm really appreciative, of that and So As will. 670 00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.759 Hardy too like he's a great, sound bite he's, very 671 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.240 thoughtful and he's he's also really easy to. Talk to so, 672 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.480 once you, ONCE you, i guess learn to accept the 673 00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:25.359 fact that losing. Is winning this season in a very, 674 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.559 unique way it kind of became easier and easier as it. 675 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.359 Went along that make. 676 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:32.519 Any sense, It does, it does and it takes some time. To, 677 00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.000 understand like if you're working in an ecosystem that, incentivizes 678 00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.440 losing you're going to lean into it because the incentive 679 00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:42.359 structure says this is the right thing. To do so 680 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.039 it's kind of like a don't hate, the player hate the, 681 00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.359 Game THING like i just don't like THAT the nba 682 00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.000 incentivizes What the jazz, are doing BUT the, nba does 683 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.039 So the jazz have to. Do it BUT before i 684 00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:53.920 set you loose, at him we are the home Of, 685 00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:56.839 the utes and we had a rough football season and 686 00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.240 another rough, basketball SEASON but i think that there's a 687 00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.559 lot of optimism for next year on. Both sides we'll 688 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.559 finish with the, football program but before we, Do That 689 00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.960 alex jensen has been hired as a seventeenth coach and 690 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.839 men's basketball History H keato dawes withdrew from the. Transfer 691 00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.839 portal he's. Coming Back And terrence brown has been added 692 00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:20.880 as a Transfer From Fairleigh. Dickinson university and when you 693 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.720 look at the, composite rankings he is one of the 694 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.720 top guards on the. Transfer market so we have two pieces. 695 00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.079 In place but you, You, know ajay what would you 696 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.119 say to you fans about what they should should expect 697 00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:32.559 now that he's. 698 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:34.799 IN charge I just I. 699 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.920 LOVE alex i think he's a, great guy. You know, 700 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.599 you know it's been one of my favorite things. About 701 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:44.200 him we work in a really, hectic profession, you know 702 00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:47.519 especially you know again covering post game for. A living, 703 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:49.880 i mean, you know at least once or twice, A 704 00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.160 week i go to a, sporting event win. OR lose 705 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:54.720 i go do, post games scrap it, all together and then, 706 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.279 you know just get to a, live shot, you know 707 00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.079 running to get there and make it. On time it's 708 00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:04.359 a it's. A hecticronment alex has this, laid, back cool 709 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.880 calm demeanor about him everywhere. He GOES and i got 710 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.519 To know alex when he was a course working for 711 00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.679 Working For quinn snyder And The utah jazz and he 712 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.440 was never not sitting down Courtside With rudy gobert with 713 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:24.360 an iPad just looking through video and he's, just, calm 714 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:30.360 impatient and a. WELCOMING person i think it's going to 715 00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:35.679 be really really interesting to see him developing college level 716 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.880 TALENT because i think he's cut out. FOR it i 717 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.280 think there's like a nurturing Side. TO alex i think 718 00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:45.519 there's a thoughtfulness that is perfect for coaching kids who 719 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.760 are coming right out of high school and growing them into. 720 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:49.960 A program i just think he's going to create a. 721 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:52.719 Family Environment and i'm not saying that wasn't Present With. 722 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.840 CRAIG smith i was A Huge craig smith fan and 723 00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.199 it broke my heart when he got. Let Go but 724 00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.079 alex is going to bring the family Aspect of utah 725 00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:03.920 basketball Back. TO utah i think that's a big part 726 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:06.280 of the reason they want him for. This job and 727 00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.400 then you know you've kind of prefaceed this part of 728 00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:11.719 you know our segment today talking about the transfer portal 729 00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.599 and how competitive it. IS there i think the biggest 730 00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.519 thing that a coach can bring in the table for 731 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.639 a program that wants to be competitives these days is 732 00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.840 to find a way to keep kids at. Your school 733 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.440 don't have kids three quarters of the way through the 734 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:29.039 season when they're not perfect and nothing's going. Absolutely perfect 735 00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.599 get them from putting their heads in the gutter and thinking. 736 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.159 About leaving find a way to make a program that 737 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.199 kids don't want. To leave and That's why i'm so 738 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.400 Excited for alex to. COME here i think he's going 739 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:38.840 to be great. 740 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.960 At that, all right, last thing, You know utah football 741 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.840 last year was installed as the favorite to Win The 742 00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.480 big twelve by our Friends In. Las vegas the Media 743 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.119 pick utadh to Win the big twelve, local national, you 744 00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:58.159 KNOW and I wonder adam this year if you pull 745 00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.920 up the way To early big. Twelve list as far 746 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:03.079 as what people think is gonna happen, Next year utah 747 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.360 for the most part is, like five six. Or seven they're, mid, table, 748 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:10.679 Okay okay so you remove the pressure of everybody saying 749 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.840 you're going to Win The. Big twelve the cfp's expanded, 750 00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.599 to twelve so you're going to. That too what gives 751 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:18.840 you the most hope that year two In the big 752 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.840 twelve can be a lot Better for utah football than year. One, WAS. 753 00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:26.079 Okay i hope he's not listening, right NOW because i 754 00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:27.920 don't mean it the way. It sounds but the Fact 755 00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.280 that utah has undeniably moved On From, CAM rising i 756 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.559 think is the first step in the. Right direction, You 757 00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:37.599 know cam his last two seasons was never a, sure 758 00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:40.119 thing and there were lots of ups and downs that 759 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:43.559 were just there and always it already is as long 760 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.000 as he. Was Around what's cam? Gonna Do how's cam going? 761 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:48.719 To be it looked pretty good through a couple of 762 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.079 games this, last season AND then i don't know what 763 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.360 he was trying to pull in the Game. Against baylor 764 00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:55.280 i've got a ton of respect for. THIS kid i 765 00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.920 think he's one of, the best not, only quarterbacks but 766 00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.280 one of the best leaders That the utah football has 767 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.719 had Since since i've. Been here and he's got a 768 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:04.760 tremendous upside and he's going to have a. Right future 769 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:08.079 but the fact that they're moving on from that era 770 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.159 and moving into, SOMETHING else i think is the first 771 00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:12.840 step in the. Right direction and, THEN yeah i think 772 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.000 there's a little juice up. There Too With. JASON beck 773 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.119 i hadn't had a chance to meet HIM until i 774 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.800 was up at practice On a friday a couple of, 775 00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:22.199 weeks ago and we got to talk to a lot 776 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.840 of the coordinators and he just looks bright at and 777 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:28.840 bushy tailed and ready to make mistakes and fix those 778 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:33.239 mistakes and get his. Hands dirty and the, other, thing 779 00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:35.199 too is he's playing for you like to call me. 780 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.599 The goat the Goat Is. KYLE whittingham, i mean that's 781 00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:42.719 the biggest arrow in the quiver That the University of 782 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.239 utah Has is they've they've got one of the deans 783 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:51.039 of college football running, their program and guys just seemed 784 00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:56.760 to love to play. For HIM and I think i 785 00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.039 think as Long As kyle whittingham, IS there I think 786 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:01.119 utah's is it's going to be a force to. 787 00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.039 Be, recover adam you're. The man appreciate. The time it 788 00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.880 was fun being on television with you. This week have a, great, 789 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:09.039 weekend buddy will. 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ABUNDANCE mindset i always 809 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:01.639 have that are? 810 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:04.920 You Optimizing but i'm not necessarily in tune the moon at. 811 00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.320 THE moment i have to look. 812 00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:07.519 Into. 813 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.000 That well, right now it's a good time to optimize 814 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.880 and have an abundance mindset as The Moon zach harper 815 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.599 currently as of today is. Waxing crescent are you prepared? 816 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:17.639 For tonight you don't have to. 817 00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:19.559 TELL me i looked at the moon. LAST night i 818 00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.280 saw that it was about to, wax CRESCENT so. 819 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:25.880 I knew the natural follow up is are? You optimizing 820 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:28.480 do you have an? ABUNDANCE mindset i always have an. 821 00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.119 ABUNDANCE mindset i wake up with an. ABUNDANCE mindset i 822 00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.960 make SURE that i speak it. INTO existence i go 823 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.159 to bed with an. ABUNDANCE mindset, I manifest i, vision 824 00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:38.920 BOARD and i do. 825 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:41.840 It all but are you practicing feeling the feeling even 826 00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:44.119 though the thing hasn't? Happened Yet, because zach what is 827 00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:45.440 meant for you will never be kept. 828 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.920 From, you well not, only THAT but i. 829 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.400 Journal it, oh perfect then you know what you put. 830 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.840 Into practice i've got Nothing at you are on, your way. 831 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:54.599 Young man i'm proud. 832 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:57.039 Of you thank you. Very much i've done a lot 833 00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:57.480 of practice. 834 00:39:57.480 --> 00:39:59.880 With this one more? Follow up are you dating with inten? 835 00:40:00.360 --> 00:40:03.960 Right now you Have, to, yeah yeah, that's new. THAT'S 836 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.920 new i didn't know that was the thing is how 837 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:07.239 long how long has this been? 838 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:08.199 Going on you need to help. 839 00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:08.840 Me out i'm new on. 840 00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:11.880 The, scene oh dating, with intention THAT'S about i, would 841 00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:18.559 say like dating in with intention and and being in 842 00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:22.280 a provider slash protector role has been about a six 843 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:22.840 to seven. 844 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:26.679 Month thing, ah okay we'll keep your phone on you 845 00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:28.719 Because as i'm going through, THIS process i have a lot. 846 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.840 Of, questions, okay, yeah yeah it's, Oh, MAN yeah I 847 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:34.000 got i got you with any of. 848 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.079 That, stuff okay, ALL right I do i need? Some 849 00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:39.760 guidance this, is wild? All Right isaiah collier's optimizing? What 850 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:43.320 transition no? Big deal? All right So the jazz have 851 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:47.320 sent out some media packets to folks that. Are voters 852 00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:48.119 are you? A voter to you? 853 00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:48.480 A voter? 854 00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.280 Aren't? You, yeah okay so my guess is you receive one, 855 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.679 of these and, You, know zach it's the only postseason 856 00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:57.800 Award the jazz have any chance outside of. 857 00:40:57.800 --> 00:40:59.320 Maybe the number One over, i'll pick but we'll get 858 00:40:59.320 --> 00:40:59.519 there in. 859 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.760 The moment, and initially like, you, hear, like Hey is 860 00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:05.559 isaiah call? Your Broke john stockton's, assist, record, well Okay 861 00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:09.360 like john played eighteen minutes a night his. Rookie year 862 00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.400 he Played Behind, ricky green he had, Five STARTS so 863 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.880 i think it's four hundred and. Seventy assists, or whatever 864 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:19.039 but ultimately for a season that is void in bright 865 00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:21.880 spots for. The team when you look at the rookie class, 866 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.280 This year isaam might have a case to be made for, 867 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:27.800 first team maybe, second team definitely. 868 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:28.760 All rookie do you think he has. 869 00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.840 A chance i don't think he has any kind of 870 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:36.679 case for first team. Like that that seems not possible 871 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.519 to ME because i think right off, the rip You've, 872 00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:47.559 got Castle, wells Resa Che edie sar And Then khalil 873 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:51.800 wear's in there two, you KNOW like i think those 874 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:57.079 six have a better case than. He does but then 875 00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.199 once you get past those second team is definitely in. 876 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.440 A MIX like i don't know that there is a 877 00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:07.360 strong case outside of those six that would bump him 878 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:11.079 definitely out of out of all rookie. Second team and 879 00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:15.559 he's he's closed really well and even though the team 880 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.039 has been, A MESS like, i mean he had a 881 00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.239 really good game the, Other night like he's he's. Playing better, 882 00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:25.880 you know the shot making, Is whatever he's making decent decisions, 883 00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.960 Out there the assists have. Been there, you know the 884 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.119 scoring is kind of in. And out BUT like i 885 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.400 think you're seeing it's it's tough, to tell, BUT like 886 00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:35.800 i feel like you're seeing some, progress, There, right like 887 00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:37.800 he's definitely better than he was two. 888 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:42.119 Months, ago yeah he's thirty two from three Since He all. 889 00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:45.119 Star, breaking look that's, not awesome but it's better than 890 00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.480 like twenty two, twenty one which is where he was 891 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:48.760 at the start, the year, you, Know. 892 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:51.559 Right YEAH like i don't know that the shot, looks 893 00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:55.519 good but it doesn't. LOOK atrocious i think his shot decisions. 894 00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.440 Are better, and AGAIN like, I mean i feel like 895 00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.840 we're saying the same things that, we, did well maybe 896 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:04.440 not the same things we Did With, kante george but. 897 00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.760 Similar things. You know, with that it was the shot 898 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:10.119 looks good he's taking, you know he creates, good shots 899 00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:11.960 why aren't they? Going in and that's what we Saw 900 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.599 at baylor With, With collier it's it's a bit of 901 00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:18.559 a different conversation in that he was a top prospect 902 00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.079 coming out of. HIGH school i think THE whole usc 903 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:25.960 program and experience set. Him back and now, he's trying, 904 00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:28.159 you know he And the jazz are trying to correct 905 00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:31.000 whatever that year, you know kind of messed up for 906 00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:34.239 him and getting him in real, basketball development in a 907 00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:38.559 real program in, you know a real abundance mindset when 908 00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.880 it comes to there you go and trying, to correct, 909 00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:45.119 you know whatever stunt that that year had to his 910 00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.360 growth AND and i do think it took him a 911 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:51.280 little while to get into. GOOD habits i think he's exhibiting, 912 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.199 good habits a good decision making whether the shots are there. 913 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.480 Or not you're at least seeing a much different player 914 00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:02.639 from just a professionalism standpoint on the court than what 915 00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:04.119 we saw in the first half of. The season, AND that, 916 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.039 i mean if you're gonna take anything away from this 917 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:09.000 mess of the season For, the jazz that's. 918 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.000 A positive so you Bring Up, kyante george who's clearly 919 00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:17.719 not in. The vortex so let's. Let's move, i'm sorry 920 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:19.199 THAT'S just i. Can't help this. 921 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.480 IS great i would do this every radio hit we 922 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:22.639 do for the rest of. The year. 923 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:25.320 WE can, I mean i just, You know kyante clearly 924 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.159 is not manifesting like everything is always working out. For 925 00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:29.920 me all you have to do is repeat in. The mirror, 926 00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:32.440 but look we haven't Talked about kyante in, A while, 927 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:37.559 and anecdotally somebody down with the team about three weeks 928 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.119 ago said, to, me like you are Higher on keyante 929 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:46.159 than they are behind, the Scenes and i'm not that High. 930 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:48.280 On kyante he just listens to. The show i've just 931 00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.480 tried to take this positive. Spin wherever since he was 932 00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.000 brought off, the bench maybe he's settled into the ROLE 933 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.920 that i think he always was going to settle into no, 934 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.880 matter what even when he, was starting even when he 935 00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:00.440 was the starting. 936 00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:01.599 League guard way too many. 937 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.679 Bad decisions he might be among the worst defensive players 938 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.400 in all of. Pro basketball i'm getting the sense, Down, 939 00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:11.519 there zach that they don't really view him as part of, 940 00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:14.599 their future which is wild to think about because last 941 00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.119 year he was like the only young player that. Played 942 00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:20.159 well so let's get an up To Date zach harper 943 00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.800 take on the player that clearly is not in the vortex, 944 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.079 Right Now. Chiante, george yeah it. 945 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:27.760 Feels a little bit like when people, talk, like oh 946 00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:30.039 they have like a, young child and then a new 947 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.039 baby comes into, the mix and now that maybe gets 948 00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:35.280 all the yep, the attention Right Like isaiah collier is the, 949 00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:37.159 new Baby And kante george has kind of been. PUSHED 950 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:41.360 aside i, feel, Like look i'm not Watching every jazz 951 00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:44.440 game front, to BACK but i feel LIKE when i, 952 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:48.519 check in like some of the games he has off, 953 00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:52.400 The bench, i'm like he was. Pretty good now the 954 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:56.239 bar is, very, Low right like the bar for him is, 955 00:45:56.360 --> 00:46:00.000 Very low AND so i don't Know if i'm, Judged 956 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:01.840 THAT like i gotta, Be, HONEST like i don't Know 957 00:46:01.880 --> 00:46:03.760 if i'm judging that based on LIKE what i expect 958 00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:06.199 out of A good nba player OR what i expect 959 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:09.840 out of him and the jazz and so it's probably 960 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:13.599 what it's probably. THE latter i think there is a 961 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:19.800 good backup guard within. HIS future i do think the. 962 00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:23.440 Talent's there the decision making has not been there in 963 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:26.519 his in his time in the league, so far and 964 00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:29.920 like he has been in the league a while to 965 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:33.599 still be making some of. These mistakes, but also, you 966 00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:35.599 know part, of it this is gonna be a. Weird 967 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.679 Comparison but i've, been Taught like i've got a bunch 968 00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:42.800 of friends Who are, blazers fans and they keep like 969 00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:46.239 they've been complaining for three years Now About chauncey billups as, 970 00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.039 a COACH and i, Keep, SAYING look i have no 971 00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.360 Idea If chauncey billups as a. GOOD coach i do 972 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.400 know he's never been given a good team because even 973 00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:56.480 when he, took over like those teams were injured, right 974 00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.280 away and so he was tanking and not given like 975 00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:01.880 an Actual Old damian lillard's season and not, you know 976 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.079 and then finally, you know the trade away. And everything 977 00:47:05.119 --> 00:47:07.519 and he's been giving teams that are THAT are i 978 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.480 guess in teardown years and then in, rebuilding years AND 979 00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.199 so i have no idea if he can COACH like 980 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.760 i have. No idea we saw a good stretch With 981 00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.360 the blazers this year in the second half and it started, 982 00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:19.679 Looking PROMISING but i don't know if he's a. Good 983 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.920 Coach With, kiante George the jazz have been such a 984 00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:27.360 mess in these tear down and. Rebuilding years maybe if 985 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:32.039 you put him around actual, good players it would elevate. 986 00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.400 His game he wouldn't have to make so. Many decisions 987 00:47:34.519 --> 00:47:37.840 it would, you know kind kind of everything would rise 988 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:42.679 up and kind of steady things. For him so maybe 989 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:46.159 that is an environment he needs to. Be in but 990 00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:49.719 man like it just. It do it's not as promising 991 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.000 as he wanted. To be and and when you get 992 00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:53.880 into the conversation, of, like okay he could be a, 993 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:56.880 backup guard there's a lot of backup guard options IN. 994 00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:01.239 The, nba yeah and there were moments that he showed 995 00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.280 after he kind of was the only young player to 996 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.159 get starts and minutes, last, Year, like okay maybe we got, 997 00:48:07.239 --> 00:48:10.679 something here, but yeah to your Point, about isaiah and 998 00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:12.840 you can talk about this with most of their Young. 999 00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.320 Player zach which is Why whenever, I'm asked i'm always 1000 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.159 asked the. Same QUESTION if i go on other shows or, 1001 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:19.239 do podcasts Or even i'm talking to, jazz fans they 1002 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:24.559 always say who will be here when they're? Good AGAIN and, 1003 00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:28.079 i honestly at this point it's PROBABLY and i don't 1004 00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:30.920 know when that's. Gonna Be and marketing is in his, 1005 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.679 Late twenties walker's about to be in his. Mid twenties 1006 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:35.960 like part of me wants to answer, the, question like 1007 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:38.679 there's a chance that none of these players are here 1008 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:41.320 When the jazz are actually, good AGAIN because i have 1009 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.920 so many question marks about so many of them Outside 1010 00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:48.400 of Marketing. And kessler but because they're not close to being, 1011 00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:50.840 GOOD again i can't even Say that Lowry and walker 1012 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:52.760 will be here When the jazz are actually GOOD because 1013 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:53.320 i don't know when that's. 1014 00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.440 Gonna, Be YEAH like I guess i don't Look at, 1015 00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:00.639 lowry like if they're calling this now like the, actual 1016 00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:05.480 REBUILD then I assume, lowry is, you know this, summer, 1017 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:09.039 Available RIGHT like i like the whole reason that with 1018 00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:11.039 the timing of the extension and everything was so that 1019 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:13.039 he wouldn't be traded. This YEAR but i would assume 1020 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.000 teams are going to be interested in him this summer 1021 00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:19.239 and you've got to do your due diligence to see 1022 00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.079 what you can get for him and if, that helps, 1023 00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:24.000 you know bring in assets or young players Or Whatever 1024 00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:26.480 danny Age And justin zanek are. Looking for AND so 1025 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.920 i wouldn't expect him to be here. Long term if that's, 1026 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:33.880 the case then, to me, you know as Nice, As 1027 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.119 collier collier has, Looked recently like, To Me walker kessler 1028 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.239 is the only guy who has a definite skill set 1029 00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:41.960 FOR the nba, right now and so he's the only 1030 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:44.320 ONE that i, would, say, like yeah he'll probably be here, 1031 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.119 long TERM but, I, Don't yeah i'm, With, YOU like, 1032 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.639 I don't i don't know who. That is like maybe 1033 00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.280 if this kid gets healthy and and can show what 1034 00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:54.280 he can do defensively on, the court maybe that's That's, 1035 00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.400 that's taylor, you KNOW like. I don't i, don't KNOW like, 1036 00:49:57.480 --> 00:49:59.199 I don't i don't know that they have, those guys 1037 00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:02.679 which is kind of tough when you've been even drafting 1038 00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:04.400 a bunch, of dudes, you know in the first round 1039 00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:05.039 of the last couple. 1040 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:10.119 Of years what is your favorite slash most accurate player 1041 00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:13.039 Comp For, Cooper flag i've, you know as he has 1042 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:14.960 kind of played his way because a lot of people 1043 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.920 probably heard the name and then hadn't watched him. Play 1044 00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.360 much and then the tournament rolls around and everybody watches, 1045 00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:24.199 the tournament so now you cannot log onto the intrawebs 1046 00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:26.639 about getting another piece and a think piece About Who 1047 00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:27.639 cooper flag could be IN. 1048 00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.719 The nba and sometimes the comp game. 1049 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:32.679 Can be a little bit frustrating because it puts on 1050 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.400 realistic expectations in the minds. Of fans but this is 1051 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.000 a market that badly is hoping this pain tolerance, pays 1052 00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:41.159 Off And cooper flag is a. 1053 00:50:41.239 --> 00:50:43.480 Jazz man of all the comps, You've, heard zach what 1054 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:44.639 lands the best? 1055 00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:47.840 For, YOU well i saw someone passed one along to 1056 00:50:47.920 --> 00:50:49.920 me the other day that they that they SAW which 1057 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:52.679 i thought, was insane Which Was, lamar odom which He 1058 00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:55.960 like lamar odom could handle. The ball cooper flag dribbles 1059 00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.039 like it's, The FOOTBALL like i don't see that. 1060 00:50:58.320 --> 00:50:59.239 At all but. 1061 00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:01.800 He can't like he's a good pass not Like lamar. 1062 00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:05.719 Otem was but he. Can pass, TO me, I like 1063 00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:08.880 i'm Sticking With. Sean marion, to me he like he 1064 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:09.280 like he. 1065 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:09.920 Can shoot Better Than. 1066 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.079 Sean maryon he can pass a little. Bit better but 1067 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.760 in terms of athlete, defensive impact getting up and down, 1068 00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.039 the floor the way he scores on, the move it 1069 00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:22.000 reminds me a Lot Of, sean marion like With. 1070 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:26.079 The, sons okay, all right You know i've Heard the. 1071 00:51:26.199 --> 00:51:30.360 KAUHAI stuff i feel like that's probably, Best case so 1072 00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.119 let me follow up here just because it's of interest in. 1073 00:51:33.199 --> 00:51:37.239 The Market sean marion was really really good at, his, 1074 00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:44.039 peak okay but he wasn't like generationally special cornerstone. Building 1075 00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:47.000 blocks so do you do you believe That if cooper 1076 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:49.920 stays healthy turn he just turned eighteen three, months ago 1077 00:51:50.039 --> 00:51:52.480 if he stays healthy and is, fully developed you believe 1078 00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.760 he can maybe have a better Career Than sean marion 1079 00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:57.320 and actually be a building block for. 1080 00:51:57.440 --> 00:51:59.800 A team it's all going to depend on whether or 1081 00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:03.199 not he becomes someone who can create off. The dribble 1082 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.920 he just can't. RIGHT now i don't understand what people 1083 00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:12.039 are seeing when he tries. To, create, like yeah it 1084 00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:14.880 can work at the college level because like no one 1085 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.719 like you like watch him in the previous game that 1086 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.519 they played and pay attention to, this weekend whether They 1087 00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:24.960 beat houston. Or not and he's the great defensive test 1088 00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:26.960 for him with just the bodies they can throw, at 1089 00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:28.679 him the defense they can throw, at him it'll be 1090 00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.280 a great test for how he creates shots because he's 1091 00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:35.440 not strong at handling. The ball so all this stuff 1092 00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.400 that he that he tries to do, to create none 1093 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:40.679 of that's going to work AT the. Nba level it's 1094 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:43.159 all going to be set up off of his athleticism 1095 00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:46.800 in him on, the move which. Is fine he's eighteen, 1096 00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.280 Years old like he's. Super young he reclassified so he, 1097 00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.400 you know he's younger than a prospect would. Normally be 1098 00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:55.079 all of this, is fine and he's got plenty of time. 1099 00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:58.000 To develop but in terms of people thinking of him 1100 00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:00.719 as like this guy who's going to be an, offensive 1101 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:04.079 weapon he, can't dribble like he just he can't create 1102 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:09.559 a SHOT against nba level defenders consistently within the flow of. 1103 00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:12.000 The game and if you can't, DO that i just 1104 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:14.079 don't Know how i'm supposed to believe that you are 1105 00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:18.519 a franchise level. Offensive player it doesn't mean he can't. 1106 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:21.000 GET there i just haven't seen. It yet there are 1107 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:22.800 times he tries to go left where he tries to 1108 00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:26.840 go against against like even decent, you, know pressure and 1109 00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:29.079 he's kind of loose with the ball and he doesn't quite, 1110 00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.239 get there and so that then he can't utilize his, 1111 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.159 you know his athleticism or. His quickness when he is 1112 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:37.679 able to get into space and you, use that these 1113 00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.079 college players can't keep up. 1114 00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:39.760 With him that's when. 1115 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:41.840 He's dominant but when he gets a little bit of 1116 00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:44.519 physicality and a little bit of pressure and he doesn't 1117 00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.519 he's not able to, use that then you see that, 1118 00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:51.400 loose handle that inability to create that's when it's a struggle. 1119 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:53.400 For him and that's what it's going to be AT 1120 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:56.639 the nba level until he can hone. That craft that 1121 00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:01.599 might take, a year, two years. Five years, you know 1122 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:03.519 hopefully it's on the on the shorter side of that 1123 00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:06.000 and he is able to become that player right away 1124 00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.239 because he does have so many other. Special skills he'll 1125 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:11.400 be a good catch and. Shoot guy he'll be a 1126 00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.079 good guy who can make decisions off the short roll 1127 00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.760 and moving the ball with the. Extra pass he's going 1128 00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:20.119 to be an excellent. Elite defender all those things, are 1129 00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.480 great but in terms, of scoring he's going to be 1130 00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:24.000 limited until he can handle. 1131 00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.840 The ball haberstrow this week on the show Dropped The. 1132 00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:28.920 Kevin garnett what do you think? 1133 00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:29.079 Of that? 1134 00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:33.039 That's, Insane that like it was insane when they did 1135 00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:36.159 It With. Anthony davis, All right and is he Better 1136 00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:37.039 Than anthony davis at? 1137 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.440 The, Prospect, no no there are very few prospects that 1138 00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:42.920 were better than ad coming out. OF college a lot, of, 1139 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.760 people don't, you know don't. Remember that, all right let's 1140 00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:48.159 move off the jazz for, a moment and, you know 1141 00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:50.840 it's just time to say that it is okay seeing, 1142 00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.960 everybody else and it has been for quite. Some Time, 1143 00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.000 golden state what is it twenty and Four With. Jimmy butler, 1144 00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:00.199 you know THEY beat la, last night, you know and, 1145 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:03.119 everybody played which is always nice because it gives you 1146 00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:04.960 an idea of exactly what sort of hand we've. Been 1147 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.519 dealt and EVERY time i lock in On a warriors 1148 00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:10.440 Game and draymond Looks, like draymond blowing up sets like, 1149 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:12.639 He was and Of course steph Is, still steph and, 1150 00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.519 You know jimmy's always a. Wild card but it's probably 1151 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:18.239 time to, say that, You Know golden state needs to 1152 00:55:18.280 --> 00:55:20.519 be taking a little more seriously than they have been 1153 00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:22.320 prior to where we're. At currently is? 1154 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:23.719 THAT fair i. 1155 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:25.400 THINK so, I mean i think they're right on the. 1156 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:28.440 Cuff there, you know last night it, looked better but 1157 00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:32.639 there's still plenty of games where they don't generate a 1158 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:36.239 lot of, easy offense, you know like there's it's still 1159 00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:40.440 it's still like a lot of tough buckets. To, create 1160 00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:43.239 Now sometimes steph can make. That Easy sometimes jimmy can make. 1161 00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:45.519 That easy and there are times where they run a 1162 00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:48.400 couple of plays where, you know they'll they'll run a, 1163 00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:52.320 dribble handoff or they'll run a Play where draymond's got, 1164 00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:54.639 the ball, you know kind of on the elbow Extended 1165 00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:58.679 and jimmy's running a pick Play, with Steph and jimmy 1166 00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.119 slips the screen because all that attention is going to 1167 00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:03.000 step and he's got a, you know a wide open 1168 00:56:03.079 --> 00:56:06.159 laft wide, open dunk and it's just like. THAT'S unguardable i, 1169 00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:07.719 DON'T know i don't know where you put your attention. 1170 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:09.920 On that and so they can they can get some. 1171 00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:11.920 Easy buckets but for the, MOST part i still think 1172 00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:15.159 some of their offense is a slog now that can 1173 00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.480 be held by kuminga stepping up and getting into a 1174 00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.679 flow or, you know Last night pachemski shot out of. 1175 00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.960 His mind he's not a shooter, like that so that 1176 00:56:24.239 --> 00:56:26.599 was a big bonus. For Them If buddy healed starts 1177 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.360 shooting like he's supposed to, be shooting that helps. A 1178 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:33.039 lot but their offense still isn't as smooth as it needs, 1179 00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:36.159 to be or it has been in their previous. Championship years, 1180 00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:39.480 but man their defense. Is elite their defense is so 1181 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:42.480 Good with jimmy in, the mix AND and i think 1182 00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:44.559 they're right on the cusp of. BEING there, i mean 1183 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.920 if you other Than, ok see you want me to 1184 00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.440 like put them up against Like a denver Or the lakers, 1185 00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.800 Or anybody i'll put them ahead of everybody else In. 1186 00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.920 The west it's just we got to SEE what okac 1187 00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:58.280 looks like in, the playoffs, you know. 1188 00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:01.480 For sure let me ask you about two teams because 1189 00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:03.880 every week we do this thing, where okay we all 1190 00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:04.920 agree that okay see. 1191 00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:07.639 Is, historic Okay so Lakers. Get luca do we? 1192 00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:08.719 Like them? Of? 1193 00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.840 Course, Yo kitches. Yo Kitch. Denver's denver but are you 1194 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.559 buying anything about the recent run from Either the Clippers or? 1195 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:18.480 Kawhi's BACK and, I know i know you always say 1196 00:57:18.519 --> 00:57:20.880 that clips are going. To clip are you buying anything 1197 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:22.880 about the recent run and play Of either clippers Or. 1198 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:26.480 THE timberwolves, i Mean the clippers, look, great RIGHT but 1199 00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.559 i mean we can't do this, EVERY year, i know, you, 1200 00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:33.880 know like and nobody wants to Believe in kawhi being 1201 00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.239 back more. THAN me, i mean he is. My FAVORITE 1202 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:39.840 LIKE i I love KAWHI and i want him to 1203 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:41.880 be HEALTHY and i want to see another playoff run 1204 00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:45.480 because HE'S just, i mean he is a great show 1205 00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:49.800 when when. He's HEALTHY but i just can't believe, in 1206 00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:53.519 it like it's even and even if he is healthy 1207 00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.119 as good as, THEY'VE been i don't KNOW that i 1208 00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:59.239 want to believe in this Version Of james harden stepping 1209 00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:01.360 up and Being the umber. TWO guy I just i 1210 00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:03.239 think there's a little bit. Missing there maybe That's, thorm 1211 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.679 powell Maybe, that's zubox who's, been incredible but there's just 1212 00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:09.159 there's something. Missing there but But the clippers. ARE dangerous 1213 00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:10.679 i wouldn't want to play them in the. First Round, 1214 00:58:11.719 --> 00:58:15.199 THE timberwolves i. Don't know it's still a Lot Of. 1215 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:20.559 Julius randall, you know it's a Lot Of julius randall. 1216 00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:24.480 At Times and aunt can go, super nova and he 1217 00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:26.000 can he can make up for a lot. 1218 00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:26.320 Of that we. 1219 00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:27.960 SAW that, i mean he was having a terrible Game 1220 00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:30.599 against denver that night and then he just went crazy 1221 00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:32.639 in the fourth quarter and picked. Them up and he can, 1222 00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:35.360 do that like he's, you know with the way he fixed, 1223 00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.840 his shot he is he is still great and capable of, 1224 00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:42.000 taking over but he still makes some pretty rough decisions. 1225 00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:44.960 At Times uh and and it kind of comes, down, 1226 00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.760 to like is McDaniel's going to? Make Shots Is Nikael 1227 00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:50.079 alexander walker gonna? MAKE shots i don't even though they, 1228 00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:52.559 SHOOT well i never fully trust that they're that, you 1229 00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.159 know that shot looks good, to me AND and I 1230 00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:58.159 just i Don't Trust. Julius randall but but they do 1231 00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.920 seem to have some advantages over for really. GOOD teams 1232 00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.440 i mean they They. Own denver over the last, six 1233 00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:05.320 year they've been them six, straight games dating back to 1234 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.800 the playoffs with game six. 1235 00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:09.679 And seven and that's. 1236 00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:12.000 Another team with The way ant goes and the way their, 1237 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.679 SIZE is i wouldn't, trust THEM but i also wouldn't 1238 00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:14.840 want to. 1239 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.960 Play them are you hesitant to Annoying the clippers Because 1240 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:22.320 of kali's seeming inability to balance the masculine and the. Feminine, 1241 00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:24.239 energy no. 1242 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:26.320 It's Mostly That james harden sucks in. 1243 00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.960 The, playoffs okay, all, right yeah just kicking. 1244 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.599 The tires have, an, idea guy, All, right ZACH before 1245 00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:33.599 i say? YOU lose i Mean, watching yoka it's a 1246 00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:36.599 sixty point, triple doubles so dumb and, so, LIKE, yeah 1247 00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:37.960 mvp where are? 1248 00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:38.960 You at where are you at? 1249 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:44.320 RIGHT now i just it's two. Historic, seasons yep, It is, 1250 00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:48.400 AND like I don't i hate that everyone's dismissing the 1251 00:59:48.679 --> 00:59:52.079 historic Season that. Shae's having everyone wants to, talk, like, 1252 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:53.880 well Yeah but yokas is. Doing it, i'm, like yeah 1253 00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.039 but no one's Done what, shave's, Done, right like it's 1254 00:59:57.119 --> 00:59:59.559 different values of what you want to, talk about And 1255 00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:02.960 what yokic is doing. Is historic but So, is shay 1256 01:00:03.199 --> 01:00:06.159 AND so i don't want to. Ignore that, to me 1257 01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:10.280 it's even enough that at least, right NOW and i 1258 01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:12.840 got another week to flip flop, on this but at least, 1259 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:17.760 RIGHT now i think the team Dominance. Of, Okay, SEE 1260 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:20.639 like i think the winning is the is the tiebreaker. 1261 01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.960 For Me like i'm gonna keep reevaluating, and SEE but 1262 01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:27.039 i think the winning has, to matter, YOU know i. 1263 01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.880 Just do and when you look at the Impact that 1264 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:34.519 jokic has on and off the Floor, with denver it is. 1265 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:37.719 Obviously severe go look at the numbers Of when shay 1266 01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:41.079 is on Versus when shay. Is off it is kind 1267 01:00:41.159 --> 01:00:42.960 of a like it's closer to a coin flip than 1268 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:45.079 you would think when he's off, the floor and it 1269 01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:46.639 is historically dominant when he's on. 1270 01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:48.679 The, floor, Yeah now i'm. 1271 01:00:48.719 --> 01:00:50.039 With YOU if i had, A vote i'd give It. 1272 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:52.000 To Shay but i'm not mad at anybody gives It 1273 01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:53.639 to jokic BECAUSE he's i. 1274 01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:55.440 Don't fault you for Voting. FOR jokic I just I 1275 01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:56.280 think I'm leaning shay. 1276 01:00:56.360 --> 01:00:58.360 Right, Now now i'm, with you, All right i'm going 1277 01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.840 to put this out into the universe. This, weekend zach 1278 01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:03.559 you will find your. Vibrational match best of luck with 1279 01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:03.920 that and. 1280 01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:08.400 Good chatting also, to you vibrational, match abundance all. That 1281 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:09.000 stuff we're. 1282 01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.320 The worst. Thanks man having, good weekend, All Right zach 1283 01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:14.960 harper From The athletic brought to you today by our 1284 01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:18.039 friends At The Salt. Lake Bees Salt Lake Bees. Avenue 1285 01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:20.400 hive join us for. Opening week it's Coming out april 1286 01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:23.280 eighth through, the thirteenth as we kick off our inaugural 1287 01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:25.719 season at the Ballpark At America first Square In. 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The Bees john moran has been fined 1319 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:10.440 seventy five thousand dollars for another gun gesture made towards 1320 01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:14.000 the bench. Last night as we, talked about it's like 1321 01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:16.360 the one thing If You're john moran to just not 1322 01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:20.079 do go double bird on the. OTHER bench, i mean 1323 01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.039 take your, clothes off don't. Do that but the one 1324 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:23.960 thing he can't do he continues, to do so he's. 1325 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:28.039 Been fined there's one more tune Up. Before augusta it 1326 01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:31.239 Is The Valero, Texas open so let's talk some. Golf 1327 01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:34.880 now Paul Pug meyer, Friday, Afternoon Paul, happy. Friday sir 1328 01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:35.159 how are? 1329 01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:35.239 You? 1330 01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:38.880 Good good how about? You stance, i'm well just? 1331 01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:40.559 Real quick do you want to hang out with me? 1332 01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:41.519 Next weekend let's go? 1333 01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:42.920 Hang out what do? You do you have any plans 1334 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:43.719 next weekend or what are? 1335 01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:44.119 YOU doing. 1336 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.119 I might be NEAR a tv checking out In. 1337 01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:51.039 THE masters a little birdie tells me you might be. 1338 01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:52.840 On site is this is? 1339 01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:56.400 This, True well i'll be on site this weekend for 1340 01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:59.639 The drive chip. And pet i'm on my Way between 1341 01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:04.159 atlanta To. An augusta as, we Speak And drive Chip 1342 01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:09.239 and putt has A big utah showing. This weekend plus 1343 01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:15.440 there is an amazing vortex of History of utah history 1344 01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:19.119 going On at Augusta, this Sunday and i'm here. For 1345 01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:22.679 that But then i've got to get back to real 1346 01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:26.159 Life for masters, Week Itself so i'm just here for. 1347 01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:29.639 This weekend, Oh, okay well tell tell us about the 1348 01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:31.960 what did you, call It The drive Chip? And putt 1349 01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:33.119 is that what you're going? To, see. 1350 01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:37.719 Yes Exactly drive Chip and putt is a junior Program 1351 01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:42.199 That augusta national And the masters does in collaboration WITH 1352 01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:47.119 the Pj, OF America pj tour AND. The usga it 1353 01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:51.039 is analogous to the, old punt pass and kick if you. 1354 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:55.079 Remember that it's a skills test for kids where they 1355 01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:58.159 get points for how far they hit a drive on, 1356 01:04:58.280 --> 01:05:01.480 a grid how close, they chip and then how close 1357 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:06.639 they put. It in there's local qualifiers forty or fifty 1358 01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:10.079 of them hild around. The country they go to eleven, 1359 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:14.519 regional qualifiers and then from those, eleven regions there's a 1360 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:19.199 representative in each of eight groups for boys and girls 1361 01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:22.360 to Come To Augusta national sunday prior To the masters 1362 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:27.000 and have a national Playoff the. National finals there are 1363 01:05:27.119 --> 01:05:31.360 three Kids from utah who Made the national finals This, 1364 01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:39.480 Weekend Loganwild, blake brown and then Really Interesting nicholas miller 1365 01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:44.760 made the Finals from Utah And nicholas miller is a. 1366 01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:53.559 Big story he is the Grandson Of. Johnny miller he 1367 01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:58.119 Was named he was named by His father Todd For 1368 01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:04.800 jack Nicholas And. Little nicholas he's twelve. Years old he 1369 01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.480 qualified For The drive Ship and putt finals on the 1370 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:13.840 fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen Seventy, five masters The greatest masters, 1371 01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:19.079 ever Played Where jack Nicholas Beat johnny miller by one 1372 01:06:19.199 --> 01:06:23.320 shot to win His. Fifth masters and on the fiftieth 1373 01:06:23.360 --> 01:06:28.760 anniversary of that, Epic Tournament johnny, miller's grandson Who bears, 1374 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:32.880 jack's name will play In The drive Chip and Putt At. 1375 01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:33.840 Augusta national. 1376 01:06:33.960 --> 01:06:39.320 It's Incredible johnny miller's grandson is also Named After. JACK 1377 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.960 nicholas i want to give this kid a hug, and 1378 01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.400 like if he doesn't end up being an, Awesome, GOLFER paul, 1379 01:06:45.719 --> 01:06:47.599 i mean that's a little bit of pressure on this. 1380 01:06:47.679 --> 01:06:50.559 Young, fella yeah he is an. 1381 01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:57.119 Awesome golfer he's GOT, great dna he's got great got 1382 01:06:57.239 --> 01:07:00.480 great naming. IN him, i mean his Name Is, nicholas 1383 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:04.480 miller and he is living up. To it he's He's 1384 01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:07.960 A Utah Golf Association Age group player Of, the year 1385 01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:13.000 and he is a. Terrific kid he is a. Terrific 1386 01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:15.800 player and this is A name i think we're going 1387 01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.360 to hear, more of and it's just going to get 1388 01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:19.079 cooler as it. 1389 01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:24.360 Goes, Along Geez johnny miller's grandson Named After Jack. NICHOLAS 1390 01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:25.960 goodness i know you. 1391 01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:27.960 Just want you just want to stand next to him 1392 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:29.199 and let some of it bleed off. 1393 01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:30.559 ON you i want to give him a hug and 1394 01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:33.440 say you're going to, be okay no. Matter what such 1395 01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:36.800 a lot. Of pressure, All, right well we'll look at 1396 01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:38.719 To the masters in. A moment but, of COURSE as 1397 01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:41.039 i reference one more, tune off which Is The valero 1398 01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:44.920 texas open DOWN To Tpc, san Antonio their. Oaks COURSE 1399 01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.320 and i always like to have you let us know 1400 01:07:49.159 --> 01:07:51.639 the details about what, We're watching so let's start with. 1401 01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:53.039 The track tell US About Tpc. 1402 01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:58.159 San antonio it's one of THE several tpc tracks that 1403 01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:00.920 are owned BY. The Pj torre this one was developed 1404 01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:05.440 BY The pga tour as a tournament. Host facility it 1405 01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:10.440 shares the characteristics, that many, not all but, Certainly most, 1406 01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:13.800 i'll say OF the tpc. Courses have it's got a 1407 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:16.600 stadium component, To it it's easy for the fans to 1408 01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:21.279 get around and. To watch there are some target elements, 1409 01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:25.680 to it which is another characteristic OF the. Tpc courses 1410 01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:30.439 they tend to be gettable when the conditions, are right 1411 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.800 and the conditions actually are a little tough this week 1412 01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:38.199 Down In, san antonio and you've, got good strong players 1413 01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:40.359 at the top of, the leaderboard you've got a major. 1414 01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:46.000 Winner In, brian harmon but the course isn't proving very 1415 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:49.680 gettable as you as you go deeper into. The field 1416 01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:56.680 this tournament's place on the calendar means that a lot 1417 01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:01.119 of people on the tour are already paying Attention to 1418 01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.680 augusta and they could skip. Over it so this tournament 1419 01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:09.520 does a really. Interesting thing they put together a package 1420 01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:13.680 that is very attractive to the families of, The players 1421 01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.960 so a lot of the tour players will go to 1422 01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:20.399 this tournament play in this tournament because it's so family 1423 01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:23.039 friendly and there's so much going on that's good for. The, 1424 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:25.439 Kids well dad's ound knocking. 1425 01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:29.119 It around so as, Of Now brian harmon is your 1426 01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:33.359 leader by, Two Over, Keith Mitchell, Matt Wallace sam ryder four. 1427 01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:38.079 Strokes back Let's See patrick canley at six, hundred parr 1428 01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:42.840 not A ton? Keggan's there Where is tony's at? Four 1429 01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:46.520 under he had a really good, Round yesterday he's kind of. 1430 01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:49.640 Struggling TODAY so i ask you the same thing every 1431 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:51.359 time we talk about one of, these tournaments of the 1432 01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:53.840 golfers that are, in contention and what you know about 1433 01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.119 them in. The course who do you think has the? 1434 01:09:56.199 --> 01:09:57.880 Best chance give us a few names you think will 1435 01:09:57.880 --> 01:09:59.600 be in the Mix, on sunday and then what do 1436 01:09:59.640 --> 01:10:01.439 you make The way tony's handled himself? 1437 01:10:01.520 --> 01:10:02.000 So, far. 1438 01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:07.600 Well the conversation this week has to Stay With. Brian 1439 01:10:07.680 --> 01:10:12.000 harmon he's finished his round and the wind tends to 1440 01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:16.000 pick up in the Afternoon In, san antonio and so 1441 01:10:16.119 --> 01:10:18.800 he's already got a number on the board and people 1442 01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:20.279 are going to have to go out and chase him 1443 01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:24.199 down with later tea times that's a. Harder lift so 1444 01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:28.039 the conversation Starts With, brian harmon a, proven winner very 1445 01:10:28.199 --> 01:10:32.279 gutsy player who plays, really smart and so the target 1446 01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:36.760 ASPECTS of Tpc san antonio are going to play to. 1447 01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:38.319 HIS advantage. 1448 01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:41.560 I do like The Name. 1449 01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:46.039 Keith mitchell he's, been trending he's been playing, well lately 1450 01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:51.439 and recent form is always one of the, strongest indicators 1451 01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:56.359 And so mitchell is one that you have to pay 1452 01:10:56.399 --> 01:11:02.520 attention to. As well and then, You know i'm always Cheering. 1453 01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:07.319 For tony didn't have his, best today but he's still 1454 01:11:07.399 --> 01:11:12.560 within striking distance and very definitely making, the weekend and 1455 01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:15.520 he could easily put together a couple of good days 1456 01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:16.000 and be right. 1457 01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:20.399 In It max holma is about to miss. Another, cut 1458 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:24.640 paul and we got news. EARLIER today i Think It's. 1459 01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:29.800 Joe griner max is split with, His Caddy joe GRINER 1460 01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:31.039 and i guess they're buddies. 1461 01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.079 From childhood but we keep talking. 1462 01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:35.159 About this max is one of my favorite players to 1463 01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.560 watch when, he's right and he has. Just been it's 1464 01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:41.359 a shocking season for one of the best young players 1465 01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:45.920 that we have in. Our country so what based off 1466 01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.000 of your knowledge of how these, Things work what's what's 1467 01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:49.920 the hope once you get rid of a caddy you've 1468 01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:53.199 had so much, Success with and have you seen caddy 1469 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:55.640 changes make stark differences for players. 1470 01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:59.279 Of talent, That, Is, max well you Gotta Fire billy 1471 01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:00.680 martin once you're twice right. 1472 01:12:02.319 --> 01:12:02.359 Or? 1473 01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:05.199 Seven, times, yeah really. 1474 01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:09.319 Whatever, it was now this is this is always a 1475 01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:13.039 part of. The game players look for a change when 1476 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:17.439 things aren't, going well and, Holy cow max. IS scraping 1477 01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:20.680 i watched him a little bit on the broadcast yesterday 1478 01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.960 and he didn't look right in. Any way he didn't 1479 01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.159 look like he was, walking right he didn't look comfortable on. 1480 01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.000 The green he just didn't look like he. Was right 1481 01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:35.039 and so it doesn't surprise me that he's gonna try 1482 01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:37.720 to shake things, up somehow even if it means firing 1483 01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:42.039 your high. SCHOOL buddy i don't know one word about 1484 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:45.039 any of the. DYNAMICS there i just know, in general 1485 01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:48.199 players will shake things up when they, need to and 1486 01:12:48.319 --> 01:12:53.279 that's very frequently what? Will happen, But boy max doesn't 1487 01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:53.760 look good. 1488 01:12:54.039 --> 01:12:57.439 Right, now no he's gonna miss. Another cut do You 1489 01:12:57.560 --> 01:12:59.399 Know martin hall they're on the. Golf channel? 1490 01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:01.479 Uh huh have you ever? 1491 01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:03.640 MET him i have not. 1492 01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:05.239 To know i'd, love To though. 1493 01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:07.920 I'VE become i don't know what. IT is i think 1494 01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:10.479 he's just like a. Funny dude so, At, night Paul 1495 01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:12.840 as i've told, You before i'm not an. Awesome sleeper 1496 01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:15.760 i'm working, on it BUT if i can't, Fall asleep 1497 01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:18.359 i'll fire up A Little, martin hall little golf pass 1498 01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:21.239 On The, Golf channel i'll watch one of his. Comprehensive 1499 01:13:21.319 --> 01:13:23.680 lessons but THE reason i bring it up is, LAST 1500 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:26.199 night i don't KNOW that i had watched the second 1501 01:13:26.279 --> 01:13:28.600 part Of The tiger woods documentary that's based Off The. 1502 01:13:28.600 --> 01:13:31.399 Tiger, woods book AND so i learned. 1503 01:13:31.520 --> 01:13:34.199 Last night AND if i, Knew this i'd forgotten the 1504 01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:36.920 split that HAPPENED because i asked You about max's Caddy 1505 01:13:37.319 --> 01:13:43.079 between Tiger and Stevie, After tiger tiger was hurt and 1506 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:44.960 he was not going to play IN The. Us, open 1507 01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:47.600 So as TeV tells, the STORY and i Haven't heard 1508 01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:51.000 tiger's side, of this He asked tiger for permission to 1509 01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:55.159 Caddy For, adam scott His, fellow auzye and then after 1510 01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:58.840 He Committed, Adam scott tiger decided to play IN The, 1511 01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:00.920 us open and then he Fired. 1512 01:14:01.319 --> 01:14:04.079 Fired stevie is that how that? Went down with your memory? 1513 01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:04.159 Of? 1514 01:14:04.199 --> 01:14:07.720 That, well, YEAH absolutely, I remember and that's one of. 1515 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:11.079 The versions that's one of the stories. YOU hear i 1516 01:14:11.239 --> 01:14:15.000 have no reason to, question it but we have to 1517 01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.319 acknowledge that there aren't all versions out there in. The 1518 01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:21.960 public one Thing that i've seen when these things go 1519 01:14:22.119 --> 01:14:25.520 on is that there's very frequently a little more to 1520 01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:32.239 the story than we have the ability. To know and 1521 01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:38.159 in a Situation like stevie Had, with tiger they were 1522 01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:42.079 a team for some of the greatest golf ever to be, 1523 01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:47.840 played ever and that led to a prominence and a 1524 01:14:48.039 --> 01:14:52.239 Celebrity for steve that caddies simply never. Had had there 1525 01:14:52.319 --> 01:14:57.520 had been notable, caddies before certainly some of the Caddies, 1526 01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:04.159 at Augusta Certainly angelo i'm blanking on his last Name, 1527 01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:08.560 With Nicholas andy Martinez, with, Miller There bruce Edwards. With 1528 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:13.680 watson there had been. Prominent Caddies but stevie achieved something 1529 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:17.319 that never had been. Done BEFORE and i always looked 1530 01:15:17.359 --> 01:15:22.399 at that and Thought that tiger was not in love 1531 01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:25.119 with the fact that his caddy was getting ATTENTION to 1532 01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:30.199 i don't KNOW that i could be, very wrong but 1533 01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:32.319 that's what it looked like. To me and so when 1534 01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:36.000 the opportunity, PRESENTED itself I think tiger went ahead and made. 1535 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:39.079 A move, All, right paul before we'll end With some. 1536 01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:41.920 Augusta thoughts but before we, DO that i know this 1537 01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:44.159 isn't your, favorite topic but the fact of the, matter 1538 01:15:44.319 --> 01:15:48.000 is like the live golf ratings continue to. Be horrific 1539 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:51.279 it's like forty, thousand people which puts it among the 1540 01:15:51.439 --> 01:15:56.000 lowest rated shows in all of. Cable television and the 1541 01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:59.159 story today is THAT The pga tour has rejected That 1542 01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:03.000 The Public investment fund their recent offer to invest one 1543 01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:07.840 point five billion into whatever that. Partnership IS and i 1544 01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.000 just want your thoughts on this continued drama and, then 1545 01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:12.199 ultimately when the. 1546 01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:14.920 Dust settles what is your hope about how this? 1547 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:21.520 Partnership, Looks, Oh mercy i'm not even sure what to hope, 1548 01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:25.920 for now other than to just SAY that i want 1549 01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.680 so much to see the greatest players play against each 1550 01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:33.199 other in a true tournament of seventy two holes with 1551 01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:39.960 a Cut With john rahm was playing last year in the, 1552 01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:44.680 live Finals and ron was. Playing well he had like 1553 01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:48.199 thirty thirty five thousand eyeballs around the world. On him 1554 01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:50.239 and this is one of the greatest players of, our 1555 01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:54.920 time and just to be that invisible is so sad 1556 01:16:55.479 --> 01:17:01.039 and just so disappointing that because more people like orders, 1557 01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:03.760 of magnitude more people need to see this great, player 1558 01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:07.079 play and we need to see him play against other. 1559 01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:12.760 Great players and if there's one Thing that live has 1560 01:17:12.920 --> 01:17:16.880 proven itself to be over its, four years so that it's, 1561 01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:21.920 nearly invisible just they players go there and just aren't 1562 01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:25.880 hurt from. Very, much again one possible exception Would Be 1563 01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:29.520 day chambeau because of his social, media work particularly, on 1564 01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:33.960 YouTube but that's Not. On live That's Something dave schambau has. 1565 01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:39.720 DONE himself i have thought from the beginning that this 1566 01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:44.720 would follow the series of events that held true with 1567 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.039 every other sport that's been in this situation or something, 1568 01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:52.199 like it and ultimately that is A MERGER, NBA Aba 1569 01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:56.039 nflabl back in the days of the early, major leagues 1570 01:17:56.199 --> 01:17:59.840 always it ends up being. A merger i hope that 1571 01:18:00.039 --> 01:18:02.720 there's something that can come. OF that i hope that 1572 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:05.520 it brings the greatest players back together to play against 1573 01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:07.960 each other in a seventy two hole tournament with. 1574 01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:11.920 A Cat The High Fruit toast adventures Of An annoying 1575 01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:16.560 orange have more Viewers than. Live golf it's a it's 1576 01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:19.680 a cartoon about an orange that teaches. Kids lessons i'm 1577 01:18:19.720 --> 01:18:22.039 looking this up in. Real time so do you think 1578 01:18:22.119 --> 01:18:24.319 one more? Thing here do you think this is going 1579 01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:27.439 to be a scenario where live carries on IN The 1580 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:30.720 pga tour carries on and players have the ability to 1581 01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:33.640 play whatever they would like to play in kind of 1582 01:18:33.720 --> 01:18:36.199 LIKE The Dp world, tour whatever AND The. Pga tour 1583 01:18:36.239 --> 01:18:37.319 do you anticipate something? 1584 01:18:37.399 --> 01:18:37.600 Like that. 1585 01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:45.039 The players themselves want to play against, The best these 1586 01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:49.000 Top players i'm talking about Certainly, Wrong keepka Deve, s Chambeau, 1587 01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:54.399 CAM smith. Dj getting he's over the crest of the 1588 01:18:54.479 --> 01:18:56.479 hill in, his career but he still packs a lot. 1589 01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:59.600 Of firepower they want to play against, the best and 1590 01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:01.920 the best just want to play. AGAINST them i think 1591 01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:04.800 that that pressure from the very best players in the 1592 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:08.439 world will ultimately bring. Them together what it looks like 1593 01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:12.960 is very hard to discern because of the great, black 1594 01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:19.359 hole unknowable variable of what is the business model from 1595 01:19:19.439 --> 01:19:24.800 piff this bottomless pit. Of money what do they want 1596 01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:25.279 to get out? 1597 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:25.600 Of it and? 1598 01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:29.720 Nobody knows and so that means that you can't apply 1599 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:35.760 regular modes of analysis and regular business since to what's. 1600 01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:39.000 Going on but ONE thing i do know for sure 1601 01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:43.119 is that the greatest players want to play with and 1602 01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:44.000 against the. 1603 01:19:44.079 --> 01:19:48.600 Greatest players speaking of the, greatest players the majority, of 1604 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:50.119 them if not close to all, of them will Be 1605 01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:53.880 At augusta national. Next week let's Start with tony's chances 1606 01:19:54.359 --> 01:19:57.000 based off of your knowledge as a man who Has 1607 01:19:57.079 --> 01:20:00.760 played augusta and knows the Game of, tony five How 1608 01:20:00.800 --> 01:20:04.000 does tony's game match up with this course and what 1609 01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:06.399 are the Chances that i'll, just Say, come sunday he's 1610 01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:07.119 got something to say. 1611 01:20:07.119 --> 01:20:09.600 About this he very. 1612 01:20:09.720 --> 01:20:13.840 Well could tony's game matches this course, exceptionally well and 1613 01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.079 his record here. Proves it he's got a couple of top. 1614 01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:21.319 Ten finishes remember twenty Nineteen when tiger won his fifth 1615 01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:25.680 who was in the final Group of tiger that Would be? Tony, final, yeah. 1616 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:31.159 Yeah exactly And so tony has done very Well. At 1617 01:20:31.159 --> 01:20:38.039 augusta tony authored one of the greatest sports comeback performances 1618 01:20:38.199 --> 01:20:41.079 ever in. Any sport this is up there in the 1619 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:45.319 Conversation With kerry scruggs doing the vault In the olympics 1620 01:20:45.359 --> 01:20:50.560 on a. Broken leg tony went out after obliterating his 1621 01:20:50.760 --> 01:20:53.960 ankle in the running down the hill in the par Three, 1622 01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:56.720 on wednesday he went out and HE shot us sixty 1623 01:20:56.800 --> 01:20:59.199 five and then made the cut and then finished in 1624 01:20:59.279 --> 01:21:03.159 the top ten on one foot In the masters. That 1625 01:21:03.359 --> 01:21:07.319 week it was unbelievable what he was able. To do 1626 01:21:08.479 --> 01:21:11.520 he's got a very strong track Record. At augusta he 1627 01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:15.199 knows his game, fits Here and i've talked with him, 1628 01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:19.520 about this and he thinks that when he gets a 1629 01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:23.079 major that it makes sense to him that it Happens 1630 01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:24.960 that augusta could very well be. 1631 01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:27.920 This week one follow Up, about tony what will you 1632 01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:31.920 be looking for? Round one indicate he's in a good space, 1633 01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:32.840 next week. 1634 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:38.600 Hitting the greens in the right spot to be able 1635 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:42.279 to put offensively instead. Of defensively you can get a 1636 01:21:42.359 --> 01:21:45.640 green in Regulation at augusta and still be in very 1637 01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:49.279 much in defensive mode if you're on the wrong part 1638 01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:52.640 of the green for that a's. Pin Placement if tony 1639 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:56.039 is putting his second Shot and augusta is a second, 1640 01:21:56.119 --> 01:21:59.880 shot course if he can be putting his second shot 1641 01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:04.399 in position to put offensively, instead defensively he'll be in 1642 01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:06.039 the Mix. On sunday, All, Right. 1643 01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.920 PAUL before i say, you lose there are fourteen golfers 1644 01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:11.439 that have odds that are plus three thousand. 1645 01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:13.359 Or, less Okay so i'm going to read you. 1646 01:22:13.439 --> 01:22:15.359 THE list i want you to give me your thoughts on, 1647 01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:17.439 the favorites and then give me a name or two 1648 01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:20.439 that's outside of the favorite cut line that you think. Will, 1649 01:22:20.439 --> 01:22:23.880 compete so of course you're. No surprise at, the Top It's, 1650 01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:27.439 Scottie Scheffler it's. Rory McElroy It's, Calamore Kawa It's, John 1651 01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:30.640 Rahm It's. Ludvig Odberg it's Bryston. D Chambeau It's, Xander 1652 01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:35.039 schoffley It's Jt It's, Adeki Matsuwama It's, Joaquin Neeman It's, 1653 01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:39.520 Patrick Canley, Victor Hovlin, Brooks Kepkin. Jordan spieth so those are, your. 1654 01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:43.039 Favorites okay so out of, that group who do? You 1655 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:45.399 like and then maybe a couple of names kind off 1656 01:22:45.439 --> 01:22:46.439 the radar to watch. 1657 01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:54.600 Out for my heart out of that group not only 1658 01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:57.920 likes but Pleads for. RORY McElroy i want To see 1659 01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:04.119 rory complete The Career, grand slam and he is in 1660 01:23:04.199 --> 01:23:07.720 a better place now statistically than he has been in 1661 01:23:07.800 --> 01:23:11.640 a long. Long time going into augusta plus he's, been 1662 01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:14.920 winning and again recent form is one of the top 1663 01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:20.720 indicators of somebody who has a chance. TO win i 1664 01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:25.279 DO like jt what he's. Doing, lately, Now look scotty 1665 01:23:25.399 --> 01:23:28.800 is an obvious choice for what he's Done at augusta 1666 01:23:29.279 --> 01:23:36.079 the last. Three years the problem is recently he hasn't Been. Quite, 1667 01:23:36.319 --> 01:23:39.880 scotty now maybe he finds it this Week. At augusta 1668 01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:45.960 he's very clearly comfortable on this, golf course but, so 1669 01:23:46.159 --> 01:23:50.880 hard so hard, to repeat and so Even For, scotti 1670 01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:54.359 scheffler he just hasn't indicated this year that his game 1671 01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:57.279 is ready to Repeat. At AUGUSTA so i would Look at. 1672 01:23:57.359 --> 01:24:02.079 RORY McElroy i would LOOK. At jt we've talked about. 1673 01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:05.960 Him recently his ability to go low is showing him showing. 1674 01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:11.000 Itself again And, boy hattie that is a remarkable skill that. 1675 01:24:11.119 --> 01:24:13.840 He has and if that comes with, him today, this 1676 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:19.439 week next Week, to augusta look out. For HIM the 1677 01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:29.159 I Like daniel. Berger's Game daniel berger has to answer 1678 01:24:29.239 --> 01:24:32.880 the second part of. Your question he has a really 1679 01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:36.880 strong second shot game and he has been trending. Well 1680 01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:39.760 lately plus. He's healthy he hasn't been healthy in quite. 1681 01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:42.800 A while so he's one to kind of keep the 1682 01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:46.159 look out of the side of your Vision For. Daniel berger, 1683 01:24:46.399 --> 01:24:46.680 all right. 1684 01:24:46.680 --> 01:24:49.159 Good stuff what's Coming? Up paul on the, program tomorrow 1685 01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:51.439 we're going to be all. 1686 01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:55.079 About the seventy fifth the fiftieth anniversary of the Seventy. 1687 01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:58.159 Five masters we're going To Have Guy Yoakum Utah golf 1688 01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:01.920 Hall of famer and the golf digest legend who has 1689 01:25:01.960 --> 01:25:04.720 written extensively about the Seventy. Five masters he'll be on. 1690 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:07.439 The show we're going to be talking with and then 1691 01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:08.880 we're going to be doing a lot With The drive 1692 01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:12.319 Chip and pett and these three Very cool utah kids 1693 01:25:12.319 --> 01:25:15.359 who are In The drive Chip, and pett including Of Course. 1694 01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:22.840 Nicholas miller It's Like Michael jordan's Sunbee. Named lebron it's Like. Wild, Man, Okay, 1695 01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:26.079 paul no that's a. Great story thank you for, the, 1696 01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:29.479 Time sir. Travel, Safe, Okay thanks we'll, see, You Sir 1697 01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:32.039 hi Paul pug Meyer You Tah golf radio coming up 1698 01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:34.439 tomorrow on the station time now for our you went 1699 01:25:34.479 --> 01:25:36.880 To golf leaderboard, up day you can stop by one 1700 01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:39.039 of the five you went to golf locations or visit 1701 01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:42.560 worldwide golf Shops dot com for the latest Deals ON, 1702 01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:46.439 callaway Ai, Ten Times, Smart, clubs titleist pro v one 1703 01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:48.560 and pro V, one x the new tailor MADE, q 1704 01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:52.079 i Thirty, five Woods the ping g four forty drivers. 1705 01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:53.680 And more it's our good friends that you went. To 1706 01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:57.399 golf lena Bring In david benman coming up in, a 1707 01:25:57.479 --> 01:25:59.119 bit one OF our nba. 1708 01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:01.800 Celebrities reporters let's. 1709 01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:04.199 Switch gears NOW the nfl draft us right around the 1710 01:26:04.239 --> 01:26:06.960 corner front of. The Program thorn eystrom joins us On 1711 01:26:07.039 --> 01:26:10.000 this friday afternoon to talk a little pro football thor how, you, doing? 1712 01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:11.399 Man great how? 1713 01:26:11.479 --> 01:26:13.920 You doing, I'm well. I'M well i appreciate. The time 1714 01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:16.319 so this is like your time, of, year right this 1715 01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:18.279 is when you really kind of. Dig in what's the 1716 01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:19.640 past couple of weeks been like? 1717 01:26:19.720 --> 01:26:19.920 For you. 1718 01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:22.560 We will we will Sleep. 1719 01:26:22.640 --> 01:26:25.319 In may but it's, you know it's always interest in 1720 01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:28.520 getting especially you get deeper into to some of these 1721 01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:31.880 profiles and you, started like why isn't this guy talked 1722 01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:35.199 about more or or, Vice versa like this dude is way, 1723 01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:37.520 over heights and, you know just developing your own opinions 1724 01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:39.239 about some of. These guys it's a great time of. 1725 01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:42.520 THE year i want to ask you about a, Local Kid, 1726 01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:45.680 jackson dart who played his high school back high school 1727 01:26:45.680 --> 01:26:48.680 football out this way and LANDED at usc of, course 1728 01:26:48.760 --> 01:26:52.880 transferred and, you know it's it's interesting to hear the 1729 01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:56.239 takes on him because it seems like you as ten, 1730 01:26:56.279 --> 01:26:58.960 different people you get ten. Different takes where do you 1731 01:26:59.079 --> 01:27:01.880 have him ranked and where do you think ultimately the 1732 01:27:01.960 --> 01:27:04.039 fans out this way that Will follow jackson dark and 1733 01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:04.640 expect him. 1734 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:09.319 TO go i HAVE him, qb THREE and i think, 1735 01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:11.880 you know it's either going to be Late on thursday 1736 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:14.000 night or it's going to be pretty quick On on. 1737 01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:16.680 Friday night, YOU know i see you talking late, first 1738 01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:20.359 round early, second round the thing of the top. Ten 1739 01:27:20.479 --> 01:27:24.239 hype i'm not there. With it it only takes. One 1740 01:27:24.359 --> 01:27:27.039 though you know there there's some thought that he would 1741 01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:28.960 be a good fit in in that, new System The 1742 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.720 kellen morris Installing In. New orleans there might be some. 1743 01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:34.600 Interest there i'll believe IT when i see it if 1744 01:27:34.640 --> 01:27:37.920 he's a top. Ten pick but, either way, you know, for, 1745 01:27:38.039 --> 01:27:40.119 me qualitatively, late first early. 1746 01:27:40.039 --> 01:27:43.359 Second shouldar sanders through today it is, pro day, of 1747 01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:47.560 course we ARE formally Pac Twelve colorado Buddies now Big Twelve. 1748 01:27:47.640 --> 01:27:50.600 Colorado buddies so we've Seen shad or here quite. A 1749 01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:53.199 bit where do you think? He goes where do you 1750 01:27:53.239 --> 01:27:55.079 analyze him in? This class and what do you think 1751 01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:55.680 his his? 1752 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:59.720 Floor, Is shudear, you know it's sort of, the opposite, 1753 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.479 feels like at least the, public narrative, you know as 1754 01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:06.000 far as the directions of it Against A. Jackson dart but, 1755 01:28:06.359 --> 01:28:09.479 you know, for ME should i will Believe that shadier 1756 01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:11.279 falls out of the top TEN when i. SEE it 1757 01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:14.319 i don't think that's going. TO happen i don't think 1758 01:28:14.319 --> 01:28:14.720 he's going. 1759 01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:15.199 To fall out of the. 1760 01:28:15.279 --> 01:28:19.159 Top five but, you know you have this crappy quarterback 1761 01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:23.159 class and the the, Evaluation, issue dear you put it 1762 01:28:23.239 --> 01:28:25.840 up against all these, other guys it's. JUST cleaner, i 1763 01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:28.920 mean it's just like people that watch him and. EVALUATE 1764 01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:31.520 him i feel like the people that get lost in 1765 01:28:31.880 --> 01:28:34.039 the weeds. And stuff so people that bring in their 1766 01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:38.079 preconceived notions About this andrews family and that sort of 1767 01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:40.800 stuff and the perception. Of it but if you can 1768 01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:43.439 remove yourself from that and just watch the games in 1769 01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:46.479 a vacuum and then just look at the data against the. 1770 01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:49.199 Other dudes he was the most impressive quarterback in this 1771 01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:51.680 class over. His career it's not me going out on. 1772 01:28:51.760 --> 01:28:52.600 The lambits it's. 1773 01:28:52.479 --> 01:28:54.880 Literally just THE fact i, you know he started all. 1774 01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:58.119 Four years his teams are. Always good, You Know jackson 1775 01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:00.439 state that turn that thing around. Real quick and then, You, 1776 01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:02.920 know colorado you take over one of the five or 1777 01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:05.479 SIX worst, fbs programs not one of the five or 1778 01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:08.079 six worst. Powerful ones, you know that team was terrible 1779 01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:11.600 when they got to that one and, eleven team and you. 1780 01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:14.039 Know that you know they also. Nippick him, it's, like 1781 01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:16.520 oh he had good receivers and this sort of. Gimmicky 1782 01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:20.800 thing he played behind terrible offensive Lines at colorado in 1783 01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:23.279 an offensive scheme where the defense knew they weren't going, 1784 01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:27.279 to run so you had the imposing defensive line who 1785 01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:29.720 they could pin their ears back the entire game and 1786 01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:32.399 and just, you know and the penetration you would see 1787 01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:35.800 on his film, right away he figured out ways to work. 1788 01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:38.560 AROUND that i like his functional mobility in. 1789 01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:39.119 The pocket. 1790 01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:42.960 You know another one of the crazy criticisms of him 1791 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:45.880 where it's like, all, right, guys stop was when people, were, 1792 01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:47.720 like oh he's not a. Good athlete, it's, like yeah 1793 01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:50.000 the son of one of the greatest athletes in the 1794 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:52.720 history OF the nfl is not a, good, Athlete okay 1795 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:55.239 like because he doesn't run out of, the pocket, you 1796 01:29:55.319 --> 01:29:56.600 know like a couple of, you know. He doesn't he 1797 01:29:56.640 --> 01:29:58.960 doesn't break containment then he's. Running downfield and the reason 1798 01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:02.159 why is he he uses athleticism to make people miss 1799 01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:04.560 in the pot when he, has to which he unfortunately 1800 01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:08.119 did more than Most. At colorado he's really really good. 1801 01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:10.600 At that and when he is scrambling he gets up 1802 01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:12.319 close to the line, of scrimmage you're starting to run out. 1803 01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:16.359 Of time he has a very cool quirk where he 1804 01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:18.760 will stop in front of that line of scrimmage and 1805 01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:21.119 he'll just plan himself there and, wait for, you know 1806 01:30:21.199 --> 01:30:22.600 for a guy to get open if he hasn't seen. 1807 01:30:22.640 --> 01:30:24.319 One yet he does a really good job of keeping 1808 01:30:24.359 --> 01:30:26.600 his eyes up when he's, moving around but when he 1809 01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:28.680 is rushing towards the line, of scrimmage when he, is 1810 01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:31.520 scrambling you will see, the defenders, you know just it's 1811 01:30:31.560 --> 01:30:35.079 a natural impulse to get, sucked downhill right because you 1812 01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:37.000 know the games that they've played in, the past you 1813 01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:38.640 always see the quarterback run pass line. 1814 01:30:38.680 --> 01:30:39.520 Of scrimmage he. 1815 01:30:39.760 --> 01:30:43.840 Uses that inclination against. Defensive, backs right he will stop 1816 01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:46.359 on a dime there, waight way someone's gonna get, sucked 1817 01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:47.640 down and now he has an. 1818 01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:48.960 OPEN receiver i really like. 1819 01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:49.760 HIS game i like his. 1820 01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:52.119 POCKET presence i don't understand why he gets criticized for, 1821 01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:54.520 that too and the elite thing. About him, of course 1822 01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:57.159 it's accuracy. And placement you can put that. Up there 1823 01:30:57.479 --> 01:30:59.640 you look at the last five. Quarterback classes there's not 1824 01:30:59.640 --> 01:31:01.640 a lot of guys that can Compete With shadeer sanders 1825 01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:03.800 in those. Two categories, so big big fan of. 1826 01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:06.039 His game so tell me where you think. He lands 1827 01:31:06.159 --> 01:31:08.039 And again i'll, just reiterate where do you think Is? 1828 01:31:08.119 --> 01:31:11.279 Flora is, And look I'm a, jets, Fan okay AND 1829 01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:13.520 so i wouldn't Mind because i'm. WITH you i wouldn't 1830 01:31:13.520 --> 01:31:15.800 mind if he fell. TO seven i don't know if that's. 1831 01:31:15.800 --> 01:31:17.520 A chance but what do? You think where do you think? 1832 01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:18.920 He lands and what do you what do you think Is? 1833 01:31:18.960 --> 01:31:21.199 FLORA is i know for A fact cleveland. 1834 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:24.199 Likes him, You know i'm not saying he's going to, 1835 01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:28.159 go Too because cleveland also very much likes His Teammate. Travis, 1836 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:30.800 hunter now, YOU know i think that's a discussion. Right 1837 01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:34.720 Now the colorado prote that you were, alluding to they had, 1838 01:31:34.840 --> 01:31:38.239 a whole huge contingent From The cleveland browns organization that was, 1839 01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:40.319 out there that included, their owner, you know in every 1840 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:43.600 major person in. That organization, of course you get to Take, 1841 01:31:43.640 --> 01:31:47.159 in travis but, you know Also evaluate shadeer there the 1842 01:31:47.399 --> 01:31:49.960 very close eyes, on Him and shadeer is would be 1843 01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:53.119 a really good Fit for stefanski's offense. As well coming 1844 01:31:53.119 --> 01:31:55.520 out OF The, NFL combine i talked TO an nfl 1845 01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:58.119 source that, told me do not discount the Possibility that 1846 01:31:58.159 --> 01:32:01.319 cleveland walks away from this draft With Both travis Hunter And. 1847 01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:03.680 Shadeer sanders and at, THE time i, was like there's, 1848 01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:07.640 no way and he's he was telling Me the shadeer. 1849 01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:12.319 Sliding possibility in, that scenario You Pop travis hunter at. 1850 01:32:12.399 --> 01:32:15.840 Number two let's say, That that let's Say that i'm 1851 01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:19.119 wrong and he gets to, you know fourteen fifteen somewhere. 1852 01:32:19.239 --> 01:32:22.000 Like that cleveland has all the draft equity in the 1853 01:32:22.119 --> 01:32:24.680 world in. THIS class i just look at all the picks, They. 1854 01:32:24.680 --> 01:32:26.880 Have they could easily get up to. 1855 01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:30.560 Fifteen sixteen if. That happened So that's i'm going to 1856 01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:33.800 call that. One. Out cleveland there's a shot still they 1857 01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:37.079 take them at two, for sure but, if not And 1858 01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:39.439 if i'm wrong about the other thing about, Him sliding 1859 01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:40.800 cleveland's in play for. 1860 01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:44.680 That too So everything i've read the word all seed 1861 01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:47.000 to you because you're, the expert Is that tennessee has done. 1862 01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:50.600 Their calculation they've landed on cam warded one is are 1863 01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:53.039 you in line with? That storyline you think that's how 1864 01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:54.399 this is going to? Go down and what do you 1865 01:32:54.520 --> 01:32:55.079 think if that's. 1866 01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:59.680 Their choice they absolutely want us to, believe that which 1867 01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:02.239 might mean that it's, the truth and might mean that 1868 01:33:02.479 --> 01:33:04.920 that it's not. The truth we have seen some very 1869 01:33:05.039 --> 01:33:07.600 clever smoke screens in. The past ONE that i could, 1870 01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:11.079 evoked that, you know for, This One san francisco wanted everyone, 1871 01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:13.560 to know was it six seven years ago that they 1872 01:33:13.600 --> 01:33:15.920 were going To Take mac jones at number three or 1873 01:33:16.079 --> 01:33:18.119 number you know where they had two or three afriget 1874 01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:21.479 but they ended Up Taking trey lance with it. Was 1875 01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:24.600 three but, you know they were putting it, out there 1876 01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:26.800 it's Gonna, Be mac it's Gonna. Be mac it wasn't 1877 01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:28.960 going To. Be mac it was like, you know doubt 1878 01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:30.600 us try to tell us who you're going to pick 1879 01:33:30.600 --> 01:33:34.479 in advance, too, Much Right so tennessee is giving, us 1880 01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:36.960 absolutely they are giving us all the indications in the 1881 01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.079 world that they will Take. Cam morton that only means 1882 01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:42.520 one of. Two, things unfortunately we can't say. In advance 1883 01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:44.359 they they want us to believe something and we'll see 1884 01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:45.279 if they end up falling through. 1885 01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:48.640 With it, and yes As a, JETS fan i will 1886 01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:51.239 selfishly kick the tires with an EXPERT as i do 1887 01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:53.560 every time we talked, Pro football what what do my? 1888 01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:55.760 Guys DO like, I said i would not mind Them 1889 01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.439 grabbing shador if he's there, At seven but what do 1890 01:33:58.479 --> 01:33:59.520 you think happens With the jets? 1891 01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:03.640 At seven the good and the bad thing is is 1892 01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:06.640 that there's enough holes there where you do not have 1893 01:34:06.840 --> 01:34:09.840 to get myopic with the, pick right like the board 1894 01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:12.399 is sort of open. To you will they will they 1895 01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:15.640 try to get like a, you know the singular offensive 1896 01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:19.199 dude In In, tyler warren the guy that the simply a, ball, 1897 01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:21.119 mover right the offensive chess piece sort of. 1898 01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:22.880 A dude i think that's. 1899 01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:26.239 One, possibility obviously there's needs on defense there. As well 1900 01:34:26.399 --> 01:34:28.039 you know you can get someone to play Next to 1901 01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:32.680 Quinnon Uh kin. Law left, you know WHETHER, it's idl 1902 01:34:33.079 --> 01:34:35.640 whether it's. Offensive tackle, you know you could use someone 1903 01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:38.159 Across from bashanu and try to take care of that 1904 01:34:38.279 --> 01:34:41.600 for the. Next decade, receiver obviously you know you know the. 1905 01:34:41.640 --> 01:34:44.800 STUFF there i, to me it's it's somewhere. IN there 1906 01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:47.520 i would be surprised if it was just because of 1907 01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:51.079 the the outlay They gave fields over a multi, year 1908 01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:53.359 DEAL though i realized it was only two years and 1909 01:34:53.399 --> 01:34:57.760 it's not, crazy money so, you know technically you haven't crossed. 1910 01:34:57.800 --> 01:34:59.640 It up but with with the all the other, HOLES 1911 01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:01.920 there i would ASSUME and i would expect for them 1912 01:35:01.960 --> 01:35:03.479 to go a non. Quarterback position do. 1913 01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:05.640 You think there's ANY chance i was reading a piece 1914 01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:08.880 In the, athletic today somebody covering their draft, that believes 1915 01:35:09.199 --> 01:35:11.640 like you just Alluded, to tennessee this is a smoke 1916 01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:15.279 screen and they're willing to move. That pick and, you 1917 01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:17.479 know Like, The jets tennessee has a lot. Of holes 1918 01:35:17.479 --> 01:35:19.119 do you think there's any chance they move off of 1919 01:35:19.239 --> 01:35:19.840 one for more. 1920 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:24.199 Valuable, Pieces well tennessee for sure if they can get, 1921 01:35:24.239 --> 01:35:27.399 that offer and this would also, you know the theory 1922 01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:31.439 of they're not, decided yet but they want us to 1923 01:35:31.520 --> 01:35:34.880 believe that. They are this is, you know if that scenario, 1924 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:37.560 was true that would be something that you would do 1925 01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:40.159 if you want to listen, to offers, right, like oh 1926 01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:43.000 we found our guy and we're, you know Blobbody blade 1927 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.119 and then you're hoping that a team that's obsessed with 1928 01:35:45.239 --> 01:35:47.680 cam wore, donn is, you know gonna make you. An 1929 01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:49.760 offer we'll have to see, on that, but Yeah if 1930 01:35:49.800 --> 01:35:52.800 tennessee gets a legitimate trade offer where they feel they're, 1931 01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:55.880 getting valued they're going to make, that Trade, right like, 1932 01:35:56.520 --> 01:35:59.079 YOU know i just. Think that as far As the jets, 1933 01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:02.439 AT seven i think they're an interesting trade down possibility 1934 01:36:02.520 --> 01:36:04.960 because of all those. Different holes, and then of course 1935 01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:07.239 you have new decision makers that are sitting in. 1936 01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:07.560 Those. 1937 01:36:07.640 --> 01:36:10.239 Seats now you brought a lot of new guys into the. 1938 01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:13.079 Front office want to put your your mark. On Things 1939 01:36:13.119 --> 01:36:15.800 And rick spielman one of the guys near and dear to, 1940 01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:17.399 my heart he used to work a mile away From 1941 01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:20.239 where i'm sitting. Right now that dude loves to trade 1942 01:36:20.279 --> 01:36:22.319 down and get. Extra pegs we make fun of him 1943 01:36:22.359 --> 01:36:24.720 here because every single year seemed like he had three 1944 01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:27.159 or four seventh round picks that he had accumulated. Through 1945 01:36:27.199 --> 01:36:29.800 it but there are teams that are gonna be looking to, 1946 01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:32.720 move ON and i think some teams that would. Surprise 1947 01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:36.359 people the forty nine ers are a team to watch 1948 01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:38.720 out for to make a big move up to board 1949 01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:41.479 in round one because they have an enormous amount of. 1950 01:36:41.680 --> 01:36:45.039 Draft equity they have made all these changes to their offensive, 1951 01:36:45.079 --> 01:36:48.319 skill guys and they want to restock that there's not. 1952 01:36:48.399 --> 01:36:50.560 A receiver i don't think that they would. Be targeting 1953 01:36:51.239 --> 01:36:53.119 i've been told to watch out for them moving Up For, 1954 01:36:53.199 --> 01:36:57.399 tyler warren so that that's and even Potent daylight Ash and, 1955 01:36:57.439 --> 01:36:59.119 gentz TOO and i know that this would, you know 1956 01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:01.520 blow peace. Those minds it's like you Already got. Christian 1957 01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:04.680 McCaffrey but they don't play football like the. Other, teams 1958 01:37:04.760 --> 01:37:06.399 dude they played positionless football. 1959 01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:06.560 On. 1960 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:09.039 Offense right it's like every time they go back to, 1961 01:37:09.119 --> 01:37:12.279 the huddle it's like you shuffle the deck as far 1962 01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:14.399 as the next play where everyone's going to. Line, UP 1963 01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:17.000 like i just enjoy watching them because it's, always, like 1964 01:37:17.079 --> 01:37:19.560 well where's, you know when deebo, is On where's debo 1965 01:37:19.640 --> 01:37:21.640 going to be? This play where's where's are you going? 1966 01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:21.760 To? 1967 01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:24.680 Be kiddle they'd line up all over. The place McCaffrey 1968 01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:26.479 could be, out wide he could be in, the slot 1969 01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:29.359 he could Be the they move, guys everywhere and and 1970 01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:32.680 so it opens up the potential possibilit because BECAUSE when 1971 01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:34.199 i was, TOLD that i, was like there's no way 1972 01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:37.840 they got McCaffrey's. Positionless football you could play those two. 1973 01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:40.760 Guys together, so, like uh, you know but but you 1974 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:42.880 know a team to watch out for potentially Maybe the 1975 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:45.399 jets would, you know could potentially be involved in that 1976 01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:47.079 if a Guy Like tyler warren gets to. 1977 01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:50.239 THEIR pick i want To ask thor because you know 1978 01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:53.880 it may be an, easy answer maybe Just Be. Travis 1979 01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:57.039 hunter but who do you think is the best prospect 1980 01:37:57.359 --> 01:37:59.960 in this draft regardless? Of position IF an nfl team 1981 01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:02.159 called you and said best player regardless of where, he 1982 01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:03.159 plays who would you say? 1983 01:38:03.159 --> 01:38:03.439 And why? 1984 01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:06.960 For me, for sure It Is travis hunter because because 1985 01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:09.199 of that two, Position Things, travis hunter he'd be if 1986 01:38:09.239 --> 01:38:10.920 he was just, a cornerback BE my cb one in. 1987 01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:11.920 This class if he was just a. 1988 01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:14.319 Wide receiver he'd be wide receiver one with the bull in. 1989 01:38:14.439 --> 01:38:16.399 This class and the fact that you get both those 1990 01:38:16.439 --> 01:38:19.000 things in, one package you can start to make an 1991 01:38:19.119 --> 01:38:23.520 argument qualitatively for his value against, a quarterback which you 1992 01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:26.920 know is sort. Of unique if you check both those 1993 01:38:26.960 --> 01:38:29.199 boxes on, your team, you know you can start making 1994 01:38:29.239 --> 01:38:32.920 that that. Qualitative argument he's different that that. Dude's different 1995 01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:35.640 my comp. For him, You know i'm the guy that 1996 01:38:35.680 --> 01:38:37.680 has a five hundred player big board of five hundred. 1997 01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:40.239 PLAYER contact i just. LOVE comps i had to come 1998 01:38:40.319 --> 01:38:43.600 from To Show. Heyo Tani there there wasn't another football 1999 01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:46.760 PLAYER that i felt comfortable comping. Him to that's that 2000 01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:49.239 was THE closest i could get as far as encapsulating 2001 01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:51.760 my Thoughts On travis Hunter And travis hunter wants to 2002 01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:54.439 Be Show. Heyo tani, you KNOW like i was laughing earlier. 2003 01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:56.079 This process people would ask him to, be like, all 2004 01:38:56.119 --> 01:38:57.680 right what position is he actually going to play in THE. 2005 01:38:57.760 --> 01:38:59.720 N bo it's like, Both Ways and i'd, be, like, 2006 01:38:59.840 --> 01:39:00.800 no no that what? 2007 01:39:01.079 --> 01:39:01.119 What? 2008 01:39:01.239 --> 01:39:04.239 Position actually, he's, like no, Both ways like he he 2009 01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:06.840 wants to be to Show hey, otani guy he is 2010 01:39:06.960 --> 01:39:08.800 not gonna Want to like if a team, Was, like 2011 01:39:08.840 --> 01:39:10.279 travis we only want you on one side of, the 2012 01:39:10.319 --> 01:39:12.439 ball he'd BE like i don't want to play. For 2013 01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:14.520 YOU so i mean that that's what you're, gonna get 2014 01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:15.319 and for sure It Be. 2015 01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:19.399 Travis hunter so is your understanding the teams that he's 2016 01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:24.119 speaking with are completely open to allowing him to play both, Positions. 2017 01:39:24.600 --> 01:39:28.640 One yeah the interested. Parties, there yeah you're going to 2018 01:39:28.680 --> 01:39:32.199 be playing him both ways. Right away you wouldn't draft 2019 01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:35.159 him otherwise because you're gonna have a ticked off employee 2020 01:39:35.199 --> 01:39:37.600 on your hand who's one of your your organization's most 2021 01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:38.840 important people right from. 2022 01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:40.840 The, get, so yeah that's that's what's. 2023 01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:43.359 Being discussed the interesting thing will be after, the draft 2024 01:39:43.720 --> 01:39:46.199 whatever team that ends, up being, you know Be, at 2025 01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:49.199 cleveland be At. The, giants uh could it Be? The 2026 01:39:49.279 --> 01:39:52.159 patriots could he get? Down before the interesting thing will 2027 01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:55.960 be the discussions inside, that building which the coaching staff 2028 01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:58.239 almost might get locked out. Of these it's more gonna 2029 01:39:58.239 --> 01:40:01.520 be between your analytics, the department and your your medical 2030 01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:05.279 team of trying to trying to look into the data 2031 01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:08.760 and figure out a guy with, that frame what what 2032 01:40:09.079 --> 01:40:11.720 is the amount of snaps that the human body at 2033 01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:15.800 that size could take before we will elevate his? Injury 2034 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.880 risk right? Like it so we're going to play him 2035 01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:21.920 eighty five percent of the snaps, you know defense as. 2036 01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:25.399 A rookie how many? Additional ones what what percentage of 2037 01:40:25.439 --> 01:40:29.039 the snapshare on offense can we do before it's dereliction 2038 01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:31.960 of duties right where it's it is so many snaps 2039 01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:35.039 you can almost guarantee that he will suffer a. SIGNIFICANT 2040 01:40:35.079 --> 01:40:37.520 injury i think it's going to be, you know you're 2041 01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:39.319 going to be between eighty to eighty five percent of 2042 01:40:39.359 --> 01:40:41.159 the snaps on defense as, a ROOKIE and i think 2043 01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:43.640 it's going to come out around forty to forty five 2044 01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:47.199 on offense as. A ROOKIE and i think, those snaps 2045 01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:49.600 you're going to Have A travis. Hunter playbook you are 2046 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:51.319 going to be looking To Get travis hunter. The ball 2047 01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:52.800 he is not going to be out there to run 2048 01:40:52.880 --> 01:40:55.000 block and then they're not going to put him out 2049 01:40:55.039 --> 01:40:56.960 there on that early. DOWNS either i don't think that's 2050 01:40:57.039 --> 01:40:59.680 one way that you can. Save him, but yeah crazy 2051 01:40:59.760 --> 01:41:02.279 value player at the. Next level THORA. 2052 01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:04.520 Before i say. You lose, you know typically we Have 2053 01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:10.239 more utah football players involved in the draft process that 2054 01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:11.920 have a chance to be, you know one of the, 2055 01:41:12.039 --> 01:41:14.279 you know maybe a first. Round guy we don't have many, 2056 01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:16.239 this Year but i'm gonna ask You About, brant keithy 2057 01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:21.600 who was really the better pro prospect Prior To dalton 2058 01:41:21.720 --> 01:41:24.640 king kid landing on campus and then kind of usurping 2059 01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:28.000 that Role after brant went down and he had another 2060 01:41:28.159 --> 01:41:31.119 injury a. Year Ago and i'm sure at some point 2061 01:41:31.199 --> 01:41:34.479 throughout your analysis you've landed on him because when he 2062 01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:38.199 was Healthy And cameron rising was under Center, for utah 2063 01:41:38.760 --> 01:41:41.720 he just looked. The part he had. The productivity he's a. 2064 01:41:41.800 --> 01:41:44.079 Great kid he's been a friend of the station for a. 2065 01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:48.359 Long TIME and i see him listed as the seventh rated, 2066 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:51.079 you know tight end slash h back on one of, 2067 01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:53.560 these lists and it's gonna be tough just because of. 2068 01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:56.319 The health but what do you make of this Process For? 2069 01:41:56.520 --> 01:41:58.600 Bran keithy and do you think at some point maybe 2070 01:41:58.680 --> 01:42:00.279 he will have a PRO football. 2071 01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:01.840 I hope he. 2072 01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:04.039 Does that, YOU know i had never met Him, Before 2073 01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:06.960 indianapolis but the thing you're saying about him being a, 2074 01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:07.880 good kid you could. 2075 01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:08.119 Tell that at his. 2076 01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:11.319 Podium session, You, know uh we asked him A. COUPLE 2077 01:42:13.359 --> 01:42:15.199 yeah i don't want to say like, hard questions but 2078 01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:18.560 like non softball questions you know about, you know you're 2079 01:42:18.600 --> 01:42:20.479 on the, older side and you know what your injury. 2080 01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:22.680 History is, you know the WAY the nfl will. View that, 2081 01:42:22.800 --> 01:42:24.760 you know you're not an, inline guy, you know and 2082 01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:27.359 and and like that's what, you know basically make. The case, 2083 01:42:27.920 --> 01:42:29.760 you know your skill set, as is, you know and stuff, 2084 01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:32.920 like that and super super, duper respectful, you know with 2085 01:42:33.079 --> 01:42:35.279 with with the answers and thoughtful and the way that 2086 01:42:35.479 --> 01:42:38.319 that he saw. That stuff but he knows he's facing 2087 01:42:38.359 --> 01:42:41.479 a bit of an uphill. Climb here, BUT yeah i 2088 01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:43.359 mean that that's a guy who you know that all 2089 01:42:43.439 --> 01:42:45.760 the adversity. HE'S overcome i think he's ready for that 2090 01:42:46.560 --> 01:42:49.640 might come, for him. YOU know i think you guys 2091 01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:52.319 will will, you know at least it's around the area of, 2092 01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:57.039 the country and. It's recently There's Remember dallan holker from the, Last, 2093 01:42:57.079 --> 01:43:00.000 sure yeah, you know THE guy i called The Incredib. 2094 01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:02.680 Doble hulker there's there's a lot of similarities there in 2095 01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:05.680 terms of. Their frames they both have the long arms 2096 01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:08.439 that they had the same THING that i liked, about 2097 01:43:08.479 --> 01:43:12.560 them which is their, really crafty clever, route, runners right 2098 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.039 and so they managed to make the little bit of 2099 01:43:15.079 --> 01:43:17.920 separation that they need short and. Intermediate area it's not 2100 01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:19.800 guys that you're going to send down, the field but 2101 01:43:20.279 --> 01:43:22.640 they're guys that potentially can be used to pay per 2102 01:43:22.720 --> 01:43:26.079 cut defenses at the. Next level and can brand stay 2103 01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:26.760 healthy enough? 2104 01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:27.680 For that? 2105 01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:30.760 Right like and he can overcome the measurables because of. 2106 01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:33.439 That craftiness because he has the longer arms than you 2107 01:43:33.479 --> 01:43:35.319 would expect from, the frame it gives him a bigger 2108 01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:38.399 catch radius than defenders. Are expecting explaining explain some of. 2109 01:43:38.439 --> 01:43:41.600 That production but can he stay healthy enough TO show 2110 01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:45.399 nfl teams that route running machination and then the reliability 2111 01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:47.560 when that balls on? THE doorstep i can be that 2112 01:43:47.640 --> 01:43:48.399 paper cut guy. 2113 01:43:48.479 --> 01:43:49.600 For you that's what we're. 2114 01:43:49.640 --> 01:43:51.520 Hoping for hopefully his body doesn't portray. 2115 01:43:51.319 --> 01:43:53.680 Him or where can our football? Fans go find? 2116 01:43:53.720 --> 01:43:53.800 Your? 2117 01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:57.079 Work buddy you can find me the scutting reports that 2118 01:43:57.279 --> 01:44:00.079 mob drafts to five hundred player big board Aforementioned On 2119 01:44:00.439 --> 01:44:02.640 Matthew Berry's, fantasy life and then you can find Me 2120 01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:03.319 on twitter At. 2121 01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:05.359 Door ku, thanks man appreciate. 2122 01:44:05.439 --> 01:44:05.880 THE time i know. 2123 01:44:05.920 --> 01:44:06.720 You're busy we'll set, You. 2124 01:44:06.800 --> 01:44:08.920 Loose okay always good talking to, you guys? 2125 01:44:09.079 --> 01:44:12.960 All right STORNEISTROM little nfl draft less than three. WEEKS 2126 01:44:13.039 --> 01:44:14.239 away i always appreciate. 2127 01:44:14.319 --> 01:44:17.920 His time we're back on the drive With ESPN's dave 2128 01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:20.640 mcminnimon joining us FOR Today's Nba. 2129 01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:23.279 Daily, assist well latch you in at the Five o'clock 2130 01:44:23.319 --> 01:44:25.279 out of, the program about thirty minutes from, Right now 2131 01:44:25.439 --> 01:44:28.920 University of utah men's. Basketball program grab a RECRUIT or 2132 01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:32.239 i should say transfer today out of the. Transfer portal 2133 01:44:32.600 --> 01:44:34.960 puzzle piece number two in PLACE. For aj but we'll 2134 01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:37.079 do A little nba now with one of, Our favorites. 2135 01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:42.920 Dave mcminnimon he's. Very famous he's a celebrity reporter On a. Friday, Afternoon, 2136 01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:43.680 hello david how? 2137 01:44:43.720 --> 01:44:45.319 ARE you i. 2138 01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:50.319 AM well i reject your INTRODUCTION because i make it about. 2139 01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:52.039 The STORY the. 2140 01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:56.119 Nba is, famous basketball, the players, the coaches. THE executive 2141 01:44:56.720 --> 01:45:00.920 i am but a vessel to convey their stories to 2142 01:45:01.079 --> 01:45:03.640 our listeners, and readers a CONDUIT of. 2143 01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:08.159 Nba stories dave McManamon. JOINS us, I, Apologize, dave well 2144 01:45:08.279 --> 01:45:11.359 you're kind of a big deal and we feel honored 2145 01:45:11.399 --> 01:45:13.960 that you would join us every time you have a 2146 01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:17.359 little bit. Of time let me start right here as 2147 01:45:17.439 --> 01:45:19.640 we stretch a little bit to try to make something. 2148 01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:23.840 Local interesting you are, a, voter right you vote for the, postseason, Awards, 2149 01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:26.680 correct yeah, that's right. All RIGHT so i would imagine 2150 01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:29.199 you were one of a number of people that received 2151 01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:32.920 a package in the Mail from jazz pr To Consider 2152 01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:37.159 isaiah Callier For. All rookie now in a, Normal year 2153 01:45:37.479 --> 01:45:40.000 i'm not sure that he would be in consideration the. 2154 01:45:40.119 --> 01:45:42.399 ROOKIE class, I mean i Love This stefon. CASTLE kid 2155 01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:44.279 i was hoping he fell To the jazz. Quite Frankly, 2156 01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:47.720 but isaiah ever since he was given the starting Nod, 2157 01:45:47.800 --> 01:45:51.000 from will has been one of the real. Bright spots 2158 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:53.119 he's got to get that jumper. Dialed in but he 2159 01:45:53.239 --> 01:45:55.560 is thirty two percent from three Since The all, star 2160 01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:58.119 break which, isn't great but it's better than, twenty three 2161 01:45:58.199 --> 01:46:01.119 which is he was. Prior to do you think our 2162 01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:02.960 guy here on, The ground Isaiah call you has a 2163 01:46:02.960 --> 01:46:03.640 shot to make one of? 2164 01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:03.800 These? 2165 01:46:03.840 --> 01:46:05.600 TEAMS yeah. 2166 01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:10.039 I do I mean i casually keep track Of the 2167 01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.159 rookie Of the year late race WITH the Nba Dot Com. 2168 01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:17.239 Rookie ladder they weekly have their top ten guys. IN 2169 01:46:17.319 --> 01:46:20.720 contention i think they have him at eight. Right now and, 2170 01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:24.439 you know if you're naming, two teams that kind of 2171 01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:28.800 puts him right. IN there i think some. Of it, 2172 01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:31.600 of course we have to acknowledge it hasn't been the 2173 01:46:31.760 --> 01:46:34.600 best rookie class that hasn't caught the league. By fire but, 2174 01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:37.800 you KNOW certainly i got to see him up close 2175 01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:41.039 in college a couple, of times Checking Out, briddy james 2176 01:46:41.159 --> 01:46:44.680 and he has that kind of build where, you're, like 2177 01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:48.720 oh could he translate this To A marcus smite smart type. 2178 01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:49.000 Of game on? 2179 01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:54.479 Both ends and Obviously this jazz eason has been about 2180 01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:57.720 doing things to prepare themselves for, the future, of COURSE 2181 01:46:57.840 --> 01:47:01.039 but I think i WOULD be i have a hard 2182 01:47:01.079 --> 01:47:05.119 time seeing myself not putting him on, my ballot probably 2183 01:47:05.159 --> 01:47:05.840 on the, second. 2184 01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:10.039 Team since you and that was a very professional way 2185 01:47:10.119 --> 01:47:13.800 of putting the approach Of The, utah jazz very Kind, 2186 01:47:13.840 --> 01:47:17.800 to dave doing things to consider, their future certainly unseerious. 2187 01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:21.439 ABOUT winning i wonder what sort OF because i was 2188 01:47:21.479 --> 01:47:24.560 told by somebody with the team that the one player 2189 01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:27.680 that's taking this the Hardest Is. Walker kessler and you 2190 01:47:27.800 --> 01:47:30.479 can tell at Times When will hardy wants to get 2191 01:47:30.520 --> 01:47:32.039 honest that this is not something that. 2192 01:47:32.119 --> 01:47:34.199 He's enjoying he's got two. 2193 01:47:34.319 --> 01:47:36.600 Years left both options picked up he's part of the, 2194 01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:38.479 brain trust he's part of, the deal he's part of. 2195 01:47:38.520 --> 01:47:41.039 The future but in your history of being around, the 2196 01:47:41.079 --> 01:47:43.840 game covering, the game what sort of toll does losing 2197 01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:47.319 like this take on? Young players fifty plus years of, 2198 01:47:47.399 --> 01:47:49.800 jazz basketball this is the first team that's lost more than. 2199 01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:54.479 Sixty, games yeah, it's BRUTAL and i think we've spoken about. 2200 01:47:54.520 --> 01:48:00.560 It before if it becomes a prolonged kind of purposely 2201 01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:07.000 staying in purgatory in order to extend your window as, 2202 01:48:07.399 --> 01:48:11.039 a team, you know kind of not quite ready to 2203 01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:13.920 jump into the double dutch and get the. BALL rolling 2204 01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:20.119 i think that is extremely difficult on players and coaches 2205 01:48:20.319 --> 01:48:24.760 who are trying to establish their career and recognize that 2206 01:48:25.159 --> 01:48:29.039 their reputation could be tied to an organization that doesn't 2207 01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:32.399 align with what their hopes and. Dreams are and while 2208 01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:35.520 there are guaranteed contracts IN, the nba that, makes it, 2209 01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:39.560 YOU know i think a better situation than someone saying 2210 01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:44.800 IN the nfl finding themselves in a, rebuilding situation it 2211 01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:48.920 is still a, sleeping experience and, YOU know i think 2212 01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.800 we have to remind ourselves though it can change on 2213 01:48:51.880 --> 01:48:55.159 a trifle BECAUSE, the nba you have five players on 2214 01:48:55.239 --> 01:48:58.079 the court at any, given time if you get one 2215 01:48:58.119 --> 01:49:00.800 of those difference makers in, the draft or, you know 2216 01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:04.399 trade falls in, your lap all of, a sudden. 2217 01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:07.880 You, could have, you know a guy. 2218 01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:10.520 From one year to the next that makes the other 2219 01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:13.560 four guys are playing with that much better and your. 2220 01:49:13.600 --> 01:49:18.720 Stock changes, And yeah i'm sure it's no secret. Like 2221 01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:20.960 That the jazz want to be in On The cooper, 2222 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:24.279 flag sweepstakes and if they, get them you're going to 2223 01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:26.000 get a guy who Just took duke to the, final 2224 01:49:26.039 --> 01:49:30.239 four possibly to a Championship, on monday and carry on 2225 01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:33.479 those winning ways and be a guy who clearly it's not. 2226 01:49:33.720 --> 01:49:36.479 About him he seems to be a guy who can 2227 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:40.000 fit in with any type. Of talent maybe things feel 2228 01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:41.880 a lot Better For walker. 2229 01:49:41.720 --> 01:49:43.239 Kessler just six months. 2230 01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:45.680 From now AND so i think that is kind of 2231 01:49:45.680 --> 01:49:47.920 where there has to be a degree of patients with 2232 01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:51.119 the process, like this because when we look at the, 2233 01:49:51.239 --> 01:49:53.600 draft board you do see some special people at the top. 2234 01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:58.520 This year, that said it is, a lottery and if 2235 01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.079 you end up with more than, twenty wins is that 2236 01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:03.039 like you get one hundred percent chance at the number. 2237 01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:04.880 One pick and the best you can do is twenty five. 2238 01:50:04.920 --> 01:50:07.960 Percent chance so one more thing here and we'll stay 2239 01:50:07.960 --> 01:50:09.760 in the space of what you. Just reference If the 2240 01:50:09.880 --> 01:50:13.279 jazz are able To Have lady luck shine upon them 2241 01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:15.560 in a way that they never have before in nine 2242 01:50:15.640 --> 01:50:20.479 trips To the lottery and number One is utahs and 2243 01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:23.359 they use That On cooper Flag With lotry Market And 2244 01:50:23.439 --> 01:50:27.319 Walker Kestler, Cooper flags i'm exciting whites for. The market so. 2245 01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:29.840 There's THAT but i wouldn't want to, Ask. YOU david 2246 01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:31.920 i know you're not, a SCOUT but, i mean obviously 2247 01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:36.079 you have a lot of great draft analysis over at 2248 01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:37.880 the dot com and also on the shows that you 2249 01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:41.000 do of all of the comps that you've Heard For, 2250 01:50:41.119 --> 01:50:43.520 cooper flag for jazz fans that really want to see, 2251 01:50:43.560 --> 01:50:46.960 this happen who kind of tracks? The most what sort 2252 01:50:47.039 --> 01:50:49.399 of player do you think he could be if he 2253 01:50:49.520 --> 01:50:51.840 stays healthy and has developed the right way when it's. 2254 01:50:51.880 --> 01:50:53.000 FULLY developed. 2255 01:50:54.319 --> 01:50:58.319 I think the floor IS someone i think this name 2256 01:50:58.359 --> 01:51:01.560 should resonate with jazz fans is Someone Like, andrew kerlinka 2257 01:51:01.880 --> 01:51:07.039 a five tool player defensive minded doesn't necessarily need touches 2258 01:51:07.079 --> 01:51:11.319 on offense to still have an extreme effect on. The 2259 01:51:11.399 --> 01:51:14.920 game the ceiling could be someone like a Plus Side, 2260 01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:20.199 scottie pippen who can obviously play in the, open floor 2261 01:51:20.560 --> 01:51:24.359 be a lockdown and defender on, the perimeter what with the, 2262 01:51:24.439 --> 01:51:28.199 ball skills be able to turn a turnover into a 2263 01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:31.239 fast break where he is the man on the ball 2264 01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:34.000 and able to finish it himself or set up. A teammate, 2265 01:51:35.279 --> 01:51:39.479 AND again i think the KIND of dna of both 2266 01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:40.920 THOSE players i mentioned. 2267 01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:43.079 Is neither of them were about. 2268 01:51:43.159 --> 01:51:46.880 Personal stats neither of them were about kind of the 2269 01:51:47.399 --> 01:51:49.800 ego side of things and needing it to be all. 2270 01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:53.239 About themselves, of course there are moments That, with pippen 2271 01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:57.119 but we'll forgive. Him that The overall arkivis career was a. 2272 01:51:57.199 --> 01:52:01.199 Team player that is something that anyone you talked To 2273 01:52:01.319 --> 01:52:03.880 About cooper, flag says that's what he's. 2274 01:52:03.880 --> 01:52:04.720 All ABOUT and i Was. 2275 01:52:04.760 --> 01:52:06.840 In vegas last summer when he was Competing WITH, team 2276 01:52:06.920 --> 01:52:10.760 USA and i got to only a small portion of 2277 01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:14.760 that session where he played against the. National team the senior, 2278 01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:16.880 NATIONAL team i, should say was open to, the MEDIA 2279 01:52:16.960 --> 01:52:18.560 but i got to speak to some of the COACHES 2280 01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:22.479 when i, was there, you know, at nighttime and talk 2281 01:52:22.520 --> 01:52:24.119 to them about what they saw in the gym and 2282 01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:27.800 they were singing the, kids' praises and so if you 2283 01:52:27.880 --> 01:52:32.000 could possibly get someone, LIKE that i think it's a 2284 01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:36.880 harsh pill worth swallowing for a season to put yourself in, 2285 01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:40.159 the running, you know because you get get someone like 2286 01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:43.039 that all of, a sudden now you're looking at a 2287 01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:46.199 window for your franchise of five to ten years of 2288 01:52:47.159 --> 01:52:51.319 hope and excitement and, you know really changing. 2289 01:52:51.359 --> 01:52:53.159 Your trajectory so we. 2290 01:52:53.239 --> 01:52:56.680 Saw Little warriors lakers, last night little. LEBRONZE staff i 2291 01:52:56.720 --> 01:52:59.920 think the broadcast said for the fifty sixth time these 2292 01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:02.760 to go at it, And, look dave it might be 2293 01:53:02.880 --> 01:53:05.239 time to start Talking About golden state a little. BIT differently, 2294 01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:08.159 i think what is it twenty and Four With, Jimmy 2295 01:53:08.199 --> 01:53:11.880 butler and, you know The way draymond's looked lately has 2296 01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:14.199 also BEEN something i don't think has been talked. About 2297 01:53:14.279 --> 01:53:17.079 enough he is back to being. That, Guy defensively steph 2298 01:53:17.199 --> 01:53:19.239 Is still steph even at. That age coming. 2299 01:53:19.399 --> 01:53:19.439 Is. 2300 01:53:19.479 --> 01:53:22.399 Healthy now i've talked to you, a lot and it's 2301 01:53:22.399 --> 01:53:24.880 probably just time to say it's okay see officially and. 2302 01:53:24.960 --> 01:53:26.960 Everybody else but do we need to start Looking At 2303 01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:29.920 golden state differently than we had prior to the past twenty. 2304 01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:30.680 FOUR games. 2305 01:53:31.960 --> 01:53:35.359 I have to spend some Time with draymond the night before, 2306 01:53:35.439 --> 01:53:39.520 the game and he WAS in espn kind of doing 2307 01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:42.760 the car washing and meeting, with folks doing. Some interviews 2308 01:53:42.840 --> 01:53:44.760 and his belief level. 2309 01:53:44.640 --> 01:53:45.680 Right now is through. 2310 01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:49.279 The CHARTS and I know draymond is someone who seemingly 2311 01:53:49.359 --> 01:53:52.960 is always talking, about something so on, some LEVEL maybe 2312 01:53:53.840 --> 01:53:55.479 i should take it with a grain. Of salt but 2313 01:53:56.760 --> 01:54:00.199 to me or a guy that's been around for work 2314 01:54:00.279 --> 01:54:04.199 championship teams In that warriors, locker room the way he's 2315 01:54:04.279 --> 01:54:07.840 talking about them right now is like he's expecting them 2316 01:54:07.960 --> 01:54:10.760 to make a. Deep run i'm not saying we could like. 2317 01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:12.039 We will and. 2318 01:54:13.960 --> 01:54:18.079 That combined with, the record Combined With steve kurse seemingly 2319 01:54:18.399 --> 01:54:22.880 finding this starting lineup now that he feels like is 2320 01:54:22.920 --> 01:54:25.399 the right mixing matchup of guys who have they're thirteen 2321 01:54:25.479 --> 01:54:28.359 to zero with the small ball group with Obviously they're 2322 01:54:28.399 --> 01:54:31.199 big Three and Jimmy And, stephan draymond and then You 2323 01:54:31.239 --> 01:54:34.720 Have brandon pazemski who was fantastic, last Night And moses 2324 01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:38.359 moody who's kind of filling that stretch role that you 2325 01:54:38.439 --> 01:54:40.560 know they were kind of unsure whether it would occur, 2326 01:54:40.680 --> 01:54:42.159 or not and then you get the likes of Someone 2327 01:54:42.239 --> 01:54:44.239 Like jonathan cominger come off the bench and he had 2328 01:54:44.279 --> 01:54:49.119 a great Game. Against lakers they, are legitimate and, of 2329 01:54:49.239 --> 01:54:52.239 course when it comes down to it in, a series 2330 01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:56.880 You Have, steph curry who's proved When the chips were 2331 01:54:56.920 --> 01:55:00.359 down this past Summer, in france there was. Nobody better 2332 01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:03.399 and you have a championship. HEAD coach i think they 2333 01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:06.760 are a very. Serious contender the thing is Because the 2334 01:55:06.840 --> 01:55:10.000 west is still. So crowded they're game Behind the lakers. 2335 01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:10.800 For fifth. 2336 01:55:12.239 --> 01:55:14.560 They don't have this tie break With. The lakers even 2337 01:55:14.600 --> 01:55:16.880 Though the lakers lost, Last night lakers still won the, 2338 01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:18.079 season series. 2339 01:55:17.800 --> 01:55:18.039 And so. 2340 01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:22.239 All of this work that they've done thus far could 2341 01:55:22.319 --> 01:55:25.159 still in them being in sixth or something like that 2342 01:55:25.279 --> 01:55:27.159 and Playing The denver nuggets in the. First Round And 2343 01:55:27.279 --> 01:55:29.000 denver nuggets are terrible matchup, for them. 2344 01:55:28.920 --> 01:55:29.520 And it could be all. 2345 01:55:29.600 --> 01:55:33.279 For not so it's kind of. Like both i'm speaking 2346 01:55:33.319 --> 01:55:35.319 on both sides of. My mouth but they, are legitimate 2347 01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:38.000 But the west is so tough that they could get 2348 01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:39.560 a bad draw and they're out in the. 2349 01:55:39.600 --> 01:55:41.600 First round, All, right DAVE before i say, YOU loose 2350 01:55:41.640 --> 01:55:43.239 i know you got, To go so be as short 2351 01:55:43.279 --> 01:55:45.039 on this as. You want and my guess is you 2352 01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:47.399 might be, very SHORT because i am going to ask 2353 01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:50.119 you a question about a player that you've covered forever 2354 01:55:50.640 --> 01:55:52.960 and a company that signed, your paychecks and where you're 2355 01:55:52.960 --> 01:55:56.600 a pillion. Saw lake you know. The deal lebron goes on, 2356 01:55:56.760 --> 01:55:59.600 McAfee's show there's the back and Forth WITH. STEVEN a 2357 01:56:00.039 --> 01:56:02.680 i have no idea why Win Horse cat Strays when 2358 01:56:02.720 --> 01:56:04.920 brian has done nothing but stand Up for lebron and 2359 01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:07.119 be fair to him. For years my question to, you 2360 01:56:07.399 --> 01:56:09.880 is why did We had bill ram on this Week 2361 01:56:09.960 --> 01:56:12.159 and bill got into a Thing with lebron a few? 2362 01:56:12.239 --> 01:56:16.840 Years back why do You think lebron even entertains any 2363 01:56:16.920 --> 01:56:18.159 of THIS what i perceived to be. 2364 01:56:18.359 --> 01:56:19.680 Utter nonsense i'm. 2365 01:56:19.760 --> 01:56:20.600 Just curious. 2366 01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:24.000 It's a really, fair question and it's not Even that 2367 01:56:24.159 --> 01:56:28.119 i'm reticent to. ANSWER it i just don't. Quite know, 2368 01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:32.039 You know lebron is someone that in MANY respects, i 2369 01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:35.640 admire certainly for what he's made, to accomplish but his 2370 01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:39.239 dedication to his craft IS something i think anyone in 2371 01:56:39.319 --> 01:56:42.760 any field can kind of draw some sort of. Inspiration 2372 01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:49.720 from at the, same time some days he's about being 2373 01:56:49.800 --> 01:56:52.159 a statesman and a role model. 2374 01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:54.319 And, an ambassador and some days he's like. 2375 01:56:54.319 --> 01:56:54.720 A dude in. 2376 01:56:54.800 --> 01:56:59.159 A BARBERSHOP and i think the Version of lebron that 2377 01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:03.079 we Saw if, pat McAfee was. Very relaxed he did 2378 01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:07.199 almost an hour and a half, INTERVIEW both i think 2379 01:57:07.359 --> 01:57:10.520 the Host and lebron, they were, you know casually dropping 2380 01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:15.479 curse words here, and there and, you know what you 2381 01:57:15.640 --> 01:57:18.840 heard from him was certainly not a, polished version and 2382 01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:23.399 sometimes that can be. Really relevatory in, this, Case obviously 2383 01:57:24.039 --> 01:57:27.239 BRIAN and i wrote a best selling Book about. Lebron 2384 01:57:27.319 --> 01:57:28.159 together he's a really. 2385 01:57:28.199 --> 01:57:29.479 GOOD colleague i respect. 2386 01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:34.800 HIS work i found out to, Be unfortunate, BUT yeah i, 2387 01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:38.359 you know Even as I've covered lebron and his teams 2388 01:57:38.399 --> 01:57:41.960 for more than a, DECADE now i would ever venture 2389 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:45.199 to SAY that i know the full scope of. The guy, 2390 01:57:45.399 --> 01:57:48.600 you know we were afforded so many opportunities to be 2391 01:57:48.680 --> 01:57:52.199 around a guy through, media access but there's all sorts 2392 01:57:52.439 --> 01:57:54.840 of layers to the life that we aren't. 2393 01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:55.520 Privy TO so. 2394 01:57:57.039 --> 01:58:02.920 I would say that the overall picture for the guy 2395 01:58:03.119 --> 01:58:05.960 is still, overwhelmingly POSITIVE and i think you could find 2396 01:58:05.960 --> 01:58:08.680 a lot of positive in that seventy five minute. 2397 01:58:08.479 --> 01:58:09.119 Interview you Did with. 2398 01:58:09.159 --> 01:58:11.960 Pat McAfee but there's gonna be some slip ups here, 2399 01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:14.000 and THERE and i think some of the things, he 2400 01:58:14.079 --> 01:58:18.359 said certainly his Comments About, brian winors, you know kind. 2401 01:58:18.359 --> 01:58:20.640 Of, Necessary dave, thank. 2402 01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:23.199 You sir appreciate. THE time i have a. Great weekend we'll. Chat, 2403 01:58:23.279 --> 01:58:25.840 TOOON okay i take care, of that. All right dave 2404 01:58:25.880 --> 01:58:28.840 mcmitman COVERS the NBA. For espn find Them on twitter 2405 01:58:28.920 --> 01:58:32.359 at mc ten is where you. Find, him yeah just 2406 01:58:32.439 --> 01:58:34.840 kind of an. Odd thing dave would know The lebron 2407 01:58:34.880 --> 01:58:38.000 angle as much. As anybody, friday afternoon it's the final 2408 01:58:38.119 --> 01:58:40.239 segment of the show for the day and for. 2409 01:58:40.399 --> 01:58:44.159 The Week happy friday. To, YOU congratulations ja. 2410 01:58:44.239 --> 01:58:44.479 Made it. 2411 01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:47.239 Weekend time hopefully have something. Fun planned the weather is 2412 01:58:47.239 --> 01:58:51.720 supposed to, be Fine like, april fine, you know. Fifty 2413 01:58:51.760 --> 01:58:55.520 degrees you got fifty two tomorrow For the utah football 2414 01:58:55.680 --> 01:58:57.399 scrimmage coming up at ten O'clock At. 2415 01:58:57.479 --> 01:58:59.800 Rice cycles they're allowing the media. 2416 01:58:59.840 --> 01:59:02.760 To watch look. At, them wow. How exciting And then 2417 01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:06.079 sunday fifty Seven and sunday next week in, the sixties 2418 01:59:06.159 --> 01:59:08.199 and then, you know we'll see Because it's April And. 2419 01:59:08.279 --> 01:59:12.119 Utah porter we were discussing earlier whether or not YOU 2420 01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:14.720 or i has had a hole, in one and the answer. 2421 01:59:14.800 --> 01:59:19.960 Is no are you prone to outbursts where you use 2422 01:59:20.079 --> 01:59:22.880 language that your mother would be disappointed to hear you 2423 01:59:23.039 --> 01:59:24.720 use at times on the? Golf course. 2424 01:59:26.359 --> 01:59:29.399 Just knowing, my mother she doesn't she doesn't give. A, hoot. 2425 01:59:29.279 --> 01:59:31.880 Well your hypothetical mom that cares, about, Sweat. 2426 01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:33.920 RIGHT yes i am prone. 2427 01:59:33.960 --> 01:59:36.399 To outbreaks the fact that we have, gone through however 2428 01:59:36.479 --> 01:59:40.680 Many years i've been on the radio without any anything 2429 01:59:40.800 --> 01:59:44.520 like that kind of crossing over is quite. The, Feet 2430 01:59:46.000 --> 01:59:48.079 yeah i'm prone to that. FOR sure i don't have 2431 01:59:48.279 --> 01:59:50.920 much of. A filter i've done a decent job of 2432 01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:52.720 it staying on air. 2433 01:59:52.840 --> 01:59:54.720 Real quick did you just say she doesn't give, a 2434 01:59:54.760 --> 01:59:58.319 hoot doesn't give? A hoot you're like thirty, years old 2435 01:59:58.960 --> 02:00:00.159 you don't see give? A hoot what? 2436 02:00:00.239 --> 02:00:00.399 Are you? 2437 02:00:00.560 --> 02:00:01.319 Sixty seven. 2438 02:00:02.159 --> 02:00:03.399 It's boots you Know where. 2439 02:00:03.439 --> 02:00:05.439 I'M from i, don't know, all right we're thirty. 2440 02:00:05.520 --> 02:00:07.239 Years behind HERE'S why i bring. 2441 02:00:07.319 --> 02:00:10.560 It up, ryan McCormick who is a golfer on The 2442 02:00:10.640 --> 02:00:14.720 Corn ferry tour and has not been playing. Very well 2443 02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:17.920 he's had a lot of outbursts, this year they've been 2444 02:00:18.000 --> 02:00:23.079 captured on social and for The Upcoming Corn faerry tour tournament, 2445 02:00:23.159 --> 02:00:27.279 this weekend he has decided to play a tournament with 2446 02:00:27.479 --> 02:00:31.640 his mouth taped shut so he does not have. Angry. 2447 02:00:31.680 --> 02:00:33.920 OUTBURSTS interesting i bet he's gonna shoot a. 2448 02:00:34.039 --> 02:00:37.840 Terrible, round well and also that's it's NOT that, i 2449 02:00:37.920 --> 02:00:41.039 mean that doesn't, Protect, you like it's not hard to 2450 02:00:41.119 --> 02:00:43.119 take the tape off, your. MOUTH like i don't think 2451 02:00:44.119 --> 02:00:47.520 this feels like it's it's more of an. ATTENTION grab 2452 02:00:47.560 --> 02:00:49.119 i don't think that's going to be. VERY effective i. 2453 02:00:49.079 --> 02:00:51.520 Was, gonna say is he doing the is he like 2454 02:00:51.920 --> 02:00:54.359 sponsored by one of those companies that's doing cold plunges 2455 02:00:54.399 --> 02:00:55.960 and tape in their mouth while? They sleep is he 2456 02:00:56.119 --> 02:00:59.039 is he like combining it with that or? Is it 2457 02:00:59.199 --> 02:01:01.319 is it all about the, You know. 2458 02:01:02.840 --> 02:01:05.800 I've actually i've actually Had because i've got a couple of, 2459 02:01:07.199 --> 02:01:08.520 let's see let's be, careful Here. 2460 02:01:08.520 --> 02:01:11.239 IT'S friday i have a, couple, WELL no i have 2461 02:01:11.319 --> 02:01:11.760 a couple of. 2462 02:01:11.800 --> 02:01:14.239 Family members and friends that have kind of leaned into 2463 02:01:14.279 --> 02:01:19.800 the manisphere type Cold Plunge, andrew kuberman, sunlight exposure, and 2464 02:01:19.920 --> 02:01:21.760 look some of that stuff is. Very valuable let me 2465 02:01:21.800 --> 02:01:23.800 sit where you should preface it with some, of that 2466 02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:27.079 but the tape on the. Mouth thing so My, brother 2467 02:01:27.239 --> 02:01:30.199 nate who IS the ceo of the clothing company that 2468 02:01:30.239 --> 02:01:32.640 we talked, About, often ROWAN and i have a Bag 2469 02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:34.159 of roan for YOU that i just need to. Bring 2470 02:01:34.239 --> 02:01:35.039 You and. 2471 02:01:35.239 --> 02:01:35.840 Nate rules. 2472 02:01:35.920 --> 02:01:38.560 He's awesome he's a. Smart kid all my little brothers 2473 02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:40.039 are smarter and more ACCOMPLISHED than. 2474 02:01:40.079 --> 02:01:42.439 I am but, you know we're in a. 2475 02:01:42.520 --> 02:01:44.880 Family vacation, he's, like, hey bro have you ever tried 2476 02:01:44.920 --> 02:01:46.600 a tape in your mouth show when? You sleep, i'm, 2477 02:01:46.640 --> 02:01:48.840 like no that. Sounds horrible IT'S. 2478 02:01:48.720 --> 02:01:49.119 Like i do it. 2479 02:01:49.159 --> 02:01:52.399 Every night so he had. Ron tape, oh wow and, 2480 02:01:52.800 --> 02:01:56.880 he said look just. Try, this okay It was. Roan 2481 02:01:57.039 --> 02:01:59.920 tape it was like some sort of all those companies 2482 02:02:00.199 --> 02:02:03.079 they just do collaborations with, each other, like hey here's a, 2483 02:02:03.159 --> 02:02:06.079 rown shirt send me a pair. Of shoes he never pays. 2484 02:02:06.119 --> 02:02:08.439 For anything, it's wild like he has figured out life 2485 02:02:08.439 --> 02:02:09.920 in a WAY that I wish. I could that's part of, 2486 02:02:09.920 --> 02:02:13.039 the game. Isn't it it is then why we should 2487 02:02:13.079 --> 02:02:14.640 be better. AT that i don't think we're very good. 2488 02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:17.159 At that we're not, Selling, anything spence we're, Selling air we're. 2489 02:02:17.159 --> 02:02:21.840 Selling thoughts wait, a second we are, selling, entertainment enlightenment 2490 02:02:21.960 --> 02:02:24.680 and information for four hours every single day on. 2491 02:02:24.680 --> 02:02:27.720 The, Rating right i'm just saying it's hard to trade that. 2492 02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:31.439 For things they don't know our value in the. Business 2493 02:02:31.479 --> 02:02:32.840 world they don't know what we bring to. 2494 02:02:32.920 --> 02:02:33.399 The tape we. 2495 02:02:33.520 --> 02:02:34.600 Are undervalue that's. 2496 02:02:34.640 --> 02:02:37.840 Well, said anyway long, story short grab some of. THE 2497 02:02:37.920 --> 02:02:40.720 tape i go to lay DOWN and i was exhausted 2498 02:02:40.800 --> 02:02:43.319 because our family vacations are. Never relaxing we have to 2499 02:02:43.560 --> 02:02:45.640 get up at six and do the things, until TEN 2500 02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:47.600 and i FELT like i. 2501 02:02:47.720 --> 02:02:47.760 Was. 2502 02:02:47.840 --> 02:02:51.520 DROWNING oh i woke up in a PANIC because i 2503 02:02:51.560 --> 02:02:54.359 couldn't BREATHE because i GUESS when, I sleep i tend 2504 02:02:54.439 --> 02:02:55.960 to breathe out of, my MOUTH which i. 2505 02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:58.399 Didn't know I'll play devil's advocate for the sake of. 2506 02:02:58.439 --> 02:02:58.920 The, show. 2507 02:03:00.800 --> 02:03:04.439 Now if you're not like really trying to get to 2508 02:03:04.520 --> 02:03:06.760 the next level as an athlete or something, like that 2509 02:03:07.399 --> 02:03:09.960 the differences that you will see from like taping your 2510 02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:12.199 mouth shut or whatever not gonna do much. For you 2511 02:03:12.960 --> 02:03:15.560 but if you tape your mouth shut and you, can't 2512 02:03:15.640 --> 02:03:19.239 breathe that probably means you got something, going on maybe 2513 02:03:19.279 --> 02:03:22.319 a deviated septum or a broken nose from way back 2514 02:03:22.399 --> 02:03:26.119 that is. Bothering you the real thing is to go 2515 02:03:26.199 --> 02:03:28.159 get that taken care of so you don't have to 2516 02:03:28.159 --> 02:03:30.680 tape your, mouth shut and so you can breathe clearly through, 2517 02:03:30.760 --> 02:03:33.039 your nose through, your mouth through all of, the above 2518 02:03:33.880 --> 02:03:36.279 and then you, get like, you know all the oxygen 2519 02:03:36.319 --> 02:03:38.239 you're supposed. To get i've seen some runners. DO it 2520 02:03:38.479 --> 02:03:41.119 i think that makes more sense. Than sleeping but when 2521 02:03:41.159 --> 02:03:46.720 you're trying to get the, airway, open yeah training your 2522 02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:48.439 your body to breathe through your nose is not a. 2523 02:03:48.479 --> 02:03:50.800 Bad thing, BUT yeah i think it's kind of silly 2524 02:03:50.800 --> 02:03:51.760 when guys are sleeping. 2525 02:03:51.800 --> 02:03:54.640 With it somebody is crushing A Little, Andrew, HUBERMAN. 2526 02:03:55.039 --> 02:03:56.399 Listen i like. 2527 02:03:56.520 --> 02:03:58.199 TO run i like to get. Out There so i'm 2528 02:03:58.239 --> 02:04:00.000 just saying to have a good. 2529 02:04:01.880 --> 02:04:04.560 To know where you're at with like, your breathing your your, 2530 02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:07.560 sinus rhythm your, you know whether you're doing it through 2531 02:04:07.560 --> 02:04:10.159 your nose of your mouth is actually there's some signs. 2532 02:04:10.199 --> 02:04:12.439 Behind it, but AGAIN like, I said i'm not going 2533 02:04:12.520 --> 02:04:14.840 to be taping my mouth shut to sleep through. 2534 02:04:14.840 --> 02:04:16.880 The night did you get your sunlight exposure. This, morning 2535 02:04:17.079 --> 02:04:19.680 no are you going to be rubbing your face with 2536 02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:20.840 a banana pio when you wake. 2537 02:04:20.920 --> 02:04:23.000 UP tomorrow i haven't done that. One yet did you 2538 02:04:23.079 --> 02:04:23.399 see that? 2539 02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:26.159 Guy's routine it WENT like i had, no choice but 2540 02:04:26.960 --> 02:04:29.319 of course it's. Not real, my face so my but, 2541 02:04:29.399 --> 02:04:31.840 hold on. Hold on my favorite part of that video 2542 02:04:32.439 --> 02:04:35.960 is him. At work, he's, like bro we got to 2543 02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:38.760 get in for, ten thousand like he's it's it's it 2544 02:04:39.039 --> 02:04:41.920 is all such a facade and. So Fake it it 2545 02:04:42.079 --> 02:04:45.159 breaks my heart that anybody falls for. These charlatans that's. 2546 02:04:45.239 --> 02:04:45.920 What sucks my. 2547 02:04:46.119 --> 02:04:48.479 Favorite Part and i'm sure you guys have seen different 2548 02:04:48.560 --> 02:04:52.359 videos and different versions, of this but. It's this it's 2549 02:04:52.399 --> 02:04:54.880 this guy with his like, morning routine right and he 2550 02:04:54.960 --> 02:04:58.239 wakes up at three point fifty seven am and by, 2551 02:04:58.399 --> 02:05:01.319 nine am the the only thing he has done is 2552 02:05:01.479 --> 02:05:03.439 washed his face and gone to. The gym now he's 2553 02:05:03.479 --> 02:05:07.439 made it, like this this cool video that's getting a 2554 02:05:07.479 --> 02:05:09.720 bunch of, you know social, media views and it looks 2555 02:05:09.800 --> 02:05:13.600 like this really deep and. Awesome routine he literally took 2556 02:05:13.680 --> 02:05:16.720 six hours to, wake up clean up and go to. 2557 02:05:16.800 --> 02:05:17.239 The gym. 2558 02:05:18.760 --> 02:05:20.880 The whole thing is just such a it's. 2559 02:05:20.920 --> 02:05:23.520 So fraudulent it should be illegal because the problem is 2560 02:05:24.600 --> 02:05:27.920 with all the people that watch that, video enough probably 2561 02:05:27.920 --> 02:05:30.000 we're convinced that, it's real that he probably got some 2562 02:05:30.119 --> 02:05:33.039 subscriptions and made money because people don't know. Any better 2563 02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:35.039 they think what they see is real online they pay 2564 02:05:35.159 --> 02:05:38.920 for and these charlatans are. Stealing money it's beyond bothers, 2565 02:05:38.960 --> 02:05:40.359 the toing and we're at. 2566 02:05:40.319 --> 02:05:41.880 The point now where it doesn't even have to be 2567 02:05:42.119 --> 02:05:44.079 like you have a partnership with, this brand you have 2568 02:05:44.199 --> 02:05:47.520 a here. Or there you're getting paid just for engagement on. 2569 02:05:47.640 --> 02:05:50.920 Social media so even if you're doing things that are, 2570 02:05:51.680 --> 02:05:55.439 strictly bait right you're strictly trolling people or just trying 2571 02:05:55.439 --> 02:05:58.680 to get them to click and, comment hate you're still. 2572 02:05:58.720 --> 02:06:03.960 Making money we're we're an interesting place in, that regard spence. 2573 02:06:04.039 --> 02:06:06.760 Interesting PLACE when i saw, THAT video i actually considered 2574 02:06:06.800 --> 02:06:09.279 doing one of my own to actually show you exactly 2575 02:06:09.359 --> 02:06:10.279 what mornings look like. 2576 02:06:10.399 --> 02:06:13.079 For me you guys would you guys would have a 2577 02:06:13.319 --> 02:06:14.119 field day, with me. 2578 02:06:14.920 --> 02:06:18.159 Like scrolling on. My phone it's, Like nine, i'm LIKE 2579 02:06:18.199 --> 02:06:19.119 do i really want to get out? 2580 02:06:19.119 --> 02:06:21.399 Of bed, you know like the dog comes and jumps, 2581 02:06:21.479 --> 02:06:25.920 on me scrounging together some sort of breakfast situation and 2582 02:06:26.000 --> 02:06:28.840 then lean into it like DO like i want to 2583 02:06:28.960 --> 02:06:32.760 release like actual real morning routine videos so people feel better. 2584 02:06:32.760 --> 02:06:34.800 About themselves you do not need to wake up, at four, 2585 02:06:36.199 --> 02:06:39.119 you know dip your head in, ice water do this sun. 2586 02:06:39.279 --> 02:06:40.800 Routine like you don't need to do all. 2587 02:06:40.840 --> 02:06:45.000 That stuff, for example i am a thirty year old 2588 02:06:45.039 --> 02:06:47.920 man working a JOB that i dreamed about DOING when i. 2589 02:06:48.039 --> 02:06:48.800 Was younger i'm in. 2590 02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:53.560 Good shape you, could say, You know i'm doing okay 2591 02:06:53.640 --> 02:06:55.920 in that in that regard in, the personal, you. Know 2592 02:06:56.560 --> 02:07:00.960 sphere but if you see me On a, monday, MORNING 2593 02:07:01.159 --> 02:07:04.359 say i, don't know nine thirty nine forty, FIVE am i, 2594 02:07:04.560 --> 02:07:09.880 Am scraggly i'm stumbling out of my. FRONT door i 2595 02:07:09.960 --> 02:07:12.800 probably don't say a word for first hour or so 2596 02:07:13.039 --> 02:07:18.800 of my. Waking moments, you know it's, not pretty it's not, 2597 02:07:19.119 --> 02:07:23.720 like aesthetic but it's how it. Really is and the 2598 02:07:23.760 --> 02:07:26.960 people that are on, the, internet now, let's see maybe 2599 02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:28.960 some of them are are are. Being authentic i'm sure 2600 02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:30.680 a lot of, them are but there is so much 2601 02:07:31.239 --> 02:07:34.840 inauthenticity trying to sell you on something or a course 2602 02:07:34.960 --> 02:07:37.960 or something, that yeah yet you should you should probably 2603 02:07:38.039 --> 02:07:39.560 try to find a way to, navigate, it because, LIKE 2604 02:07:39.640 --> 02:07:43.119 you i have unfortunately seen a fair share of people 2605 02:07:43.239 --> 02:07:47.960 in my network THAT have i wouldn't say leaned into, 2606 02:07:48.000 --> 02:07:50.680 that stuff but definitely been taken by it a. 2607 02:07:50.720 --> 02:07:50.960 Little. 2608 02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:52.680 Bit bro we got to get in for like, ten 2609 02:07:52.800 --> 02:07:56.239 thousand at, Least, fifteen bro that's what he said, at 2610 02:07:56.279 --> 02:07:58.560 work which he probably doesn't, do anything but he was 2611 02:07:58.680 --> 02:08:01.520 rubbing his face with. A banana what. An, idiot anyway 2612 02:08:01.640 --> 02:08:03.600 do not fall for. These scammers i'm sorry if, you 2613 02:08:03.680 --> 02:08:06.000 have we. Have misbehaved we got to get out, of 2614 02:08:06.039 --> 02:08:08.199 here reporter before we get our. Weekend started what comes 2615 02:08:08.239 --> 02:08:10.000 our way On A monday showy On. 2616 02:08:10.000 --> 02:08:12.560 A, monday show as we do each And, Every Monday 2617 02:08:12.640 --> 02:08:15.199 the latest On the utes with Our Guy, Josh Furlong 2618 02:08:15.319 --> 02:08:19.359 tom haberstrow stops by FOR The Nba. Daily assist we'll 2619 02:08:19.399 --> 02:08:21.960 have some sound from. 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