Speaker 1: All right, let's get a dry time.
Speaker 2: Friday afternoon, sixteen minutes past the hour of two o'clock.
Speaker 2: We're a little late today because Scott Mitchell told me
Speaker 2: about a dream he had where he was naked. So
Speaker 2: we're starting to show off like that. Thank you, Scott,
Speaker 2: filling in for Sean today, misbehave during cross talk. Happy
Speaker 2: Friday to you. Congratulations, you made it. It is time
Speaker 2: for the weekend. You did the things all week. You
Speaker 2: showed up, drug yourself out of bed, got everything done,
Speaker 2: and now you made it to the weekend. Take a big,
Speaker 2: old deep breath. Happy Friday to you. It's time for
Speaker 2: a weekend edition of the radio show. It's good to
Speaker 2: have you with us. My name is Spence check ITTs,
Speaker 2: hosting the program today, Porter Larson behind the glass, producing,
Speaker 2: booking and doing all the things making sure we behave
Speaker 2: and stay on air. We got a lot to get
Speaker 2: to on the show today. The Utah Jazz are back
Speaker 2: in action tonight. If you're into unwatchable basketball, they're going
Speaker 2: to take on the Indiana Pacers at five o'clock Mountain Time.
Speaker 2: Pacers are playing for things that matter. They might play hard.
Speaker 2: The Jazz, of course, are intent on losing as much
Speaker 2: as the possibly can to draft Cooper Flag, who today
Speaker 2: was named the AP Player of the Year. He's only
Speaker 2: the fourth freshman in the history of that award too,
Speaker 2: to win it at that age. So we'll do some
Speaker 2: Final Four. We'll get you ready for what should be
Speaker 2: two really good games tomorrow.
Speaker 1: College basketball.
Speaker 2: We'll get to some of that on the program today,
Speaker 2: the women's Final Four as well, Don Staley, Gino ari
Speaker 2: Ema Butt night of NBA basketball last night, really good
Speaker 2: game in Los Angeles between the Lakers and the Warriors,
Speaker 2: and of course the NBA rolls on tonight. Only a
Speaker 2: handful of games down the stretch. Come it's time to
Speaker 2: clinch the playoff seeds and such and then play for
Speaker 2: some postseason awards. So we'll get to some of that
Speaker 2: on the program today. Utah men's basketball has a second
Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle dialed in. It is a transfer.
Speaker 2: We'll tell you who that is. After Keanu daz withdrew
Speaker 2: his name from the transfer portal and decided to come
Speaker 2: back to play for aj half next year, the Utah
Speaker 2: men's basketball program locked in a transfer today and we'll
Speaker 2: tell you about them. Put up some really, really good
Speaker 2: numbers a year ago at Fairleigh Dickinson. We'll get into
Speaker 2: that on the show RSL Back in Action tomorrow.
Speaker 1: They welcome in the.
Speaker 2: LA Galaxy for a two to thirty kick an early
Speaker 2: kick out of America First Field in Sandy, Utah spring
Speaker 2: football roles on. There's gonna be a scrimmage tomorrow that
Speaker 2: we're actually allowed to attend, which is nice. So we'll
Speaker 2: see what sort of information we can gather at Utah
Speaker 2: football scrimmage tomorrow. Of course we'll bring that to you
Speaker 2: coming up on the shows next week. Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: is underway. We've got a little golf to talk about
Speaker 2: as well. It's the Valero Texas Open. It's the final
Speaker 2: tune up before the Masters and Augusta coming up next weekend.
Speaker 2: We are just a few weeks away from the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2: Shod Or Sanders Travis Hunter on display today at Colorado's
Speaker 2: Pro Day. Discuss this a little bit. Yesterday Caleb Loher
Speaker 2: tried out for the Dallas Cowboy, So we'll see where
Speaker 2: the Utes and the Cougars end up going drafted undrafted
Speaker 2: free agency in such NFL draft. Right around the corner,
Speaker 2: our first guest right out of the Gates the goat himself,
Speaker 2: Adam Klitch from KU TV.
Speaker 1: I was on TV with ad him this week.
Speaker 2: Usually do the TV hits with Dave Fox, but Dave
Speaker 2: is taking another one of his extensive vacations. As Dave
Speaker 2: has been a media member in this market for forty
Speaker 2: years without ever working a day in his life, So
Speaker 2: shout out to Dave Fox. But I was on TV
Speaker 2: with Adam this week. So we're gonna bring Adam in
Speaker 2: and we're gonna just talk about the local sports landscape.
Speaker 2: It's our weekly conversation with Zach Harper. We'll get a
Speaker 2: little Valero Texas open primer and do some Augusta with
Speaker 2: Paul pug Meyer, some Masters with Pugs today, Thor Nystrom,
Speaker 2: friend of the show, stops by for some NFL Draft
Speaker 2: and then one of our celebrity reporters, Dave mcminnimon, we'll
Speaker 2: stop by later on on the show. So Adam, Miklich,
Speaker 2: Zach Harper, Paul Pugmyer, Thorne Eistrom, Dave mcminnimon, Me Spence check, Ats,
Speaker 2: all of you the great listeners, Happy Friday, and that
Speaker 2: guy Porter Larson Scott Mitchell. Right out of the Gates
Speaker 2: Hits me with a dream that ended up with him
Speaker 2: naked on a scale.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say about that.
Speaker 2: Do you have any reoccurring dreams you'd like to share
Speaker 2: with our audience.
Speaker 3: I don't really have any reoccurring dreams. But to maybe
Speaker 3: make it less uncomfortable, I think most people are dreaming
Speaker 3: naked unless you're sleeping in a bunch of clothes. Aren't
Speaker 3: you with naked in most of your dreams.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about this anymore. I didn't
Speaker 2: think you were going to take this direction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always naked when I'm dreaming.
Speaker 2: So whenever you have a dream and you yourself you're
Speaker 2: in the dream, you're not wearing any clothes.
Speaker 4: No, I'll be wearing clothes in the dream I'm sleeping.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I wasn't saying Scott was naked while he was dreaming.
Speaker 2: He had a dream about himself being naked while he
Speaker 2: was competing in the Biggest Loser. Okay, okay, I have
Speaker 2: no problem with anybody sleepy nude. I just don't need
Speaker 2: to hear about your dreams where you end up naked
Speaker 2: on a scale. It just ruins my friday.
Speaker 3: Well, that became a reality thing. I know he wasn't
Speaker 3: like fully naked on the scale on whatever channel that was,
Speaker 3: But once Biggest Loser came around, he was in his
Speaker 3: underwear on a scale on syndicated television.
Speaker 4: So hey, fun times.
Speaker 2: You know what, Let's move on, why because it's time
Speaker 2: for the opening tip man. We've got business to take
Speaker 2: care of.
Speaker 4: It seems like the story of the day.
Speaker 2: We'll get back to Scott Mitchell being naked on a
Speaker 2: scale later, but Adam Miklitch is going to join us
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Speaker 2: a busy show, a lot to do of Utah Jazz
Speaker 2: are in action tonight, a lot of NBA basketball will
Speaker 2: get to a lot of on a Final four conversation
Speaker 2: coming up a little bit, but some breaking news. About
Speaker 2: an hour ago or so, Alex Jensen and the University
Speaker 2: of Utah men's basketball program have dialed in their second
Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle. After Kiano Dawes decided to withdraw
Speaker 2: his name from the transfer portal, come back and play
Speaker 2: for AJ and his staff. Terrence Brown, a sophomore transfer
Speaker 2: from Fairleigh Dickinson University, has committed to play for AJ
Speaker 2: coach Chilius, Wes will Cox, and whoever else the staff
Speaker 2: is the As the story goes, Terrence Brown knows Ralphael Chilius.
Speaker 2: Remember when coach chill that's his nickname. I still need
Speaker 2: a cool nickname because you know, it seems like everybody
Speaker 2: hasn't accept me. But after the hiring of coach Chilius,
Speaker 2: a lot of people talked about the ties that he
Speaker 2: has around the country to AAU basketball, high school basketball,
Speaker 2: college basketball, to pros. He's been on all four levels
Speaker 2: essentially and is known as a high level recruiter. So
Speaker 2: Terrence Brown familiar with Ralphael chilias and apparently that's the
Speaker 2: relationship it landed Terrence here in Salt Lake to play
Speaker 2: for the University of Utah. Now Terrence Brown as a
Speaker 2: sophomore transfer. According to ON three, he is a four
Speaker 2: star transfer portal rating athlete. His portal Composite ranking is
Speaker 2: ninety one point three to three, that is out of
Speaker 2: one hundred. So he's played a couple of years at FDU.
Speaker 2: His freshman year last season, played twenty one minutes, about
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes a night. He averaged eight points, averaged
Speaker 2: about three rebounds to assists. He is a wing about
Speaker 2: six three sixty four one seventy five and he had
Speaker 2: a great year this last year. So played about thirty
Speaker 2: five minutes a night. Shot forty five percent from the floor,
Speaker 2: thirty percent from three. You want to see that up
Speaker 2: a little bit, seventy six percent from the line. But
Speaker 2: how do you like twenty one points, six rebounds, three
Speaker 2: assists for Fairleigh Dickinson University as Tarrence Brown is now
Speaker 2: going to be a University of Utah.
Speaker 1: You so there you go. You can follow Terrence.
Speaker 2: Looks like his Twitter or ex or whatever the hell
Speaker 2: Elon's calling of these days at Terrence T. Brown, if
Speaker 2: you want to give him a nice welcome as he
Speaker 2: joins the University of Utah as Alex's second piece of
Speaker 2: the puzzle. We talked about this yesterday on Let's see
Speaker 2: Now that would have been yesterday. Yesterday was the start
Speaker 2: of the dead period in college basketball recruiting. So what
Speaker 2: that means is you cannot have any athletes on campus.
Speaker 1: There are no in person visits. It only lasts a week.
Speaker 2: It's just like, Okay, let's get the final four done,
Speaker 2: let's get the season behind us, and then you're allowed
Speaker 2: to kind of recalibrate and do the face to face
Speaker 2: stuff and have players on campus. So according to Deshaun London,
Speaker 2: he reported yesterday that Terrence Brown had a zoom call
Speaker 2: with Alex Jensen coach Chilius.
Speaker 1: My guess is was on that call as well.
Speaker 2: So again, twenty one point six boards, three assists put
Speaker 2: up some great numbers for fairly Dickinson University.
Speaker 1: And you know, before you roll your eyes.
Speaker 2: As far as FDU, there are a ton of players,
Speaker 2: including Johnny Broom who plays for Auburn, who played at
Speaker 2: small schools a year ago and are playing for the
Speaker 2: best schools in the country right now. Okay, so this
Speaker 2: is a model that has worked for a lot of
Speaker 2: different teams fairly. Dickinson University, of course, is not a
Speaker 2: P four school, and it's not a scenario where you
Speaker 2: know you're gonna be blown away by the competition that
Speaker 2: he played against. But this is a model. You know,
Speaker 2: you go find a player that put up some really
Speaker 2: good numbers at a smaller school, and then you do
Speaker 2: your calculus and your calculation about whether or not you
Speaker 2: think that can translate, and then you give him an
Speaker 2: opportunity to play a little P four Big twelve action.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to know this player a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Six' three looks like he was more of like a
Speaker 2: lead kind of combo guard FOR. Fdu but, again can really.
Speaker 2: Score probably want to see that three point shooting percentage
Speaker 2: up a little bit from thirty percent as he continues
Speaker 2: to grow, up and only. Sophomore he'll be a junior
Speaker 2: here playing FOR aj coming up coming up next. Year
Speaker 2: so as we've been talking, about we have been waiting
Speaker 2: for a word about exactly how this team is going to.
Speaker 2: Look it's impossible to analyze really anything about AJ's first
Speaker 2: year in The big. Twelve without knowing who his players
Speaker 2: are going to. Be so we Have kiana daz out
Speaker 2: of The Transfer portal committed to play for The utes next.
Speaker 2: Year Now Terrence, brown a very highly thought of transfer
Speaker 2: out Of Fairleigh Dickinson university with a composite rating of
Speaker 2: ninety one point three to three out of one hundred
Speaker 2: and a four Star Transfer portal. Rating he has landed
Speaker 2: here In Salt Lake It he'll play For alex coming
Speaker 2: up next. Year Terrence brown a six' to three junior transfer.
Speaker 2: Rising junior he'll be a junior. Next year, six three
Speaker 2: one seventy five As, From. Minneapolis minnesota played his first
Speaker 2: two years of college Basketball At Fairley. Dickens university shout
Speaker 2: Out To Fairleigh, Dickinson Madison, new Jersey The. NORTHEAST conference
Speaker 2: i twenty point per game score as. A sawft he
Speaker 2: has transferred To the University of utah to Play For.
Speaker 2: Alex jensen so piece number two of the puzzle is now,
Speaker 2: in place, All Right adam miklich. The Goat, ALTHOUGH adam i.
Speaker 2: Am disappointed i'm looking across from myself in. THE studio
Speaker 2: i don't see across from. ME man i thought we
Speaker 2: were doing this. In Person. WHAT'RE gibbs i.
Speaker 5: Am, so. SORRY man i just kind of cut up
Speaker 5: doing some marines and stuff TODAY and i got to
Speaker 5: be into the station here at three o'clock on, the
Speaker 5: NOSE so i didn't WANT to i didn't want to
Speaker 5: cut it too. Close today sorry, about. That man there's
Speaker 5: nothing like doing, radio studio especially. With.
Speaker 2: You no, All good?
Speaker 1: All Good Because dave fox is on another.
Speaker 2: LENGTHY vacation i just need to, ask you How has
Speaker 2: dave had a forty year career without ever working? A
Speaker 2: day just out, of Curiosity because i'm. Honestly impressed he's
Speaker 2: like a mentor. Of mine forty years in this business
Speaker 2: without ever working. A, day.
Speaker 5: Well that's, the, Goal right and there's two schools. That side.
Speaker 5: You know there's the old cliche find something you love
Speaker 5: doing every day of the rest of your life and
Speaker 5: never work in another day of the rest of. Your
Speaker 5: life I'm calling bs on that from the top of.
Speaker 5: Mountains fence it's just not that easy for. Our generation
Speaker 5: let's put it. This way when it Comes To, Dave
Speaker 5: fox he's got a lot of quality people that he surrounds,
Speaker 5: himself With and i'd like TO think i fit into.
Speaker 5: That umbrella so when you've got a nice umbrella like that,
Speaker 5: going life life can be, pretty.
Speaker 1: Smooth, well said and. We tease we love, our ged
Speaker 1: we love Our.
Speaker 2: Guy dave but Of course adam meglitch, the Goat, AND
Speaker 2: adam i refer to you as the goat, because somehow,
Speaker 2: some way regardless of how dire the circumstance, or situation
Speaker 2: you hit us with positivity and anecdotes that kind of
Speaker 2: bring a smile to people's faces even when stories. ARE
Speaker 2: hard i wonder where that. COMES from I wish i
Speaker 2: was more. Like that where where where's that approach?
Speaker 5: Come from oh, that's seriously that's just about one of
Speaker 5: the nicest things anybody said to me in a really.
Speaker 5: Long time in all, SIN charity i have really really.
Speaker 5: Good Parents and i'm one of those, guys too where,
Speaker 5: YOU know i don't have. Children myself so when you
Speaker 5: talk with somebody and you get to, know somebody there's
Speaker 5: something that they bring up quite, a, Bit right and
Speaker 5: so anybody who has kids they love talking about. Their
Speaker 5: kids they've got pictures of their kids on their cell phone.
Speaker 5: OR pets i don't have a, Pet too SO when
Speaker 5: i come up on CONVERSATION and i talk about good
Speaker 5: things that are going on in, my life it somehow
Speaker 5: always comes back to my mom, and dad who are my.
Speaker 5: Best friends my dad IS what i like to refer
Speaker 5: to As a Hall of fame caliber track and cross.
Speaker 5: Country coach going, back home so, my house, growing up
Speaker 5: sitting down at the dinner table together was a. Big
Speaker 5: thing athletics were a huge part of. Our existence. YOU
Speaker 5: know i was taught to try and break a sweat
Speaker 5: every day and just put your best. Foot forward and.
Speaker 5: SO again i was raised in a really really good
Speaker 5: household with two really, loving PARENTS and I guess i
Speaker 5: just try and spread the love around and pay it
Speaker 5: FORWARD whenever, i Can because i'm a pretty.
Speaker 2: Lucky guy i'm so a pretty. Big dude for people
Speaker 2: that don't know This, about adam are you? Six three
Speaker 2: it feels like you're about. Six three i'm.
Speaker 5: Six four i'd like to be about. Two ten i'm
Speaker 5: a little bit heavier. Than that and one of the
Speaker 5: funniest things, About, me SPENCE is i have a size
Speaker 5: seventeen Shoe and i've worn to size seventeen SHOES since
Speaker 5: i was sixteen. Years old it's one of the weirdest
Speaker 5: things about me and as a kid who was sixteen
Speaker 5: and nineteen, ninety four so this is Before the internet and.
Speaker 5: Before everything my life, was very, very weird trying to
Speaker 5: get shoes and trying to fit in as a normal
Speaker 5: member of society with feet that were way too big
Speaker 5: for my.
Speaker 2: Own good we are the very. SAME age i don't
Speaker 2: KNOW that i knew that. UNTIL now i was also
Speaker 2: sixteen in nineteen, ninety FOUR because i bring it like
Speaker 2: were you?
Speaker 1: AN athlete i don't even know this, About you like
Speaker 1: what did you play?
Speaker 7: Growing up SO when i.
Speaker 5: Was growing up like any, other kid the first SPORT
Speaker 5: that i got into, was SOCCER and i was actually
Speaker 5: really good, at it was a really. Good midfielder and
Speaker 5: then if you look up my Hometown the Wikipedia, Page,
Speaker 5: snahomish washington one of the claims to fame is that
Speaker 5: there was a semi pro soccer team that rolled through
Speaker 5: there by the Name Of, snohomich United And sahamich united
Speaker 5: started As a premier league team for thirteen fourteen fifteen
Speaker 5: year olds and it was a traveling CREW and i
Speaker 5: was actually on the First Ever snahamis. United team so
Speaker 5: soccer was a huge part of. MY life i loved
Speaker 5: playing it THE reason i was a pretty. Good, MIDFIELDER again,
Speaker 5: I say i Have a Hall of fame caliber track
Speaker 5: and cross country coach for. A father i was a
Speaker 5: distance runner. GROWING up i ran my first competitive race
Speaker 5: in about. First grade hung on my dad's coattails and
Speaker 5: just running was a huge part of, our life AND
Speaker 5: so i had a ton. Of INSURANCE so i made
Speaker 5: a mid midfielder because you never had to pull me from.
Speaker 5: A game and, Then again i'm a little bit big
Speaker 5: to be a. Distance runner SO once i started growing
Speaker 5: up and growing into what would be my, adult body
Speaker 5: a guy who's five eleven sixty size seventeen shoe doesn't
Speaker 5: make a lot of sense to be running competitively in three.
Speaker 5: Mile races but IT'S something i. Stuck with but THEN
Speaker 5: when i, quit BASKETBALL when i quit basketball in the,
Speaker 5: EIGHTH grade i dip myself into a pool and that
Speaker 5: is what became.
Speaker 8: My CALLING so I was i Was An all.
Speaker 5: American breaststroker it's the homis high school and By, all
Speaker 5: american it doesn't MEAN that, i was, you know an absolute.
Speaker 5: WORLD beater i just swam a good enough time to get.
Speaker 5: That CONSIDERATION but i was. A BREASTROKER and i swam the,
Speaker 5: individual MEDLEY and i really wanted to be a. COLLEGE
Speaker 5: athlete i wanted to be a swimmer. In college the
Speaker 5: only PROBLEM was i just wasn't. Good ENOUGH so i
Speaker 5: had a huge. WORK ethic i lived at. THE pool
Speaker 5: i was, a lifeguard, swim teacher AND if i wasn't
Speaker 5: in the classroom or, AT home i was at, the
Speaker 5: POOL and i poured my heart and soul. Into THEM
Speaker 5: and i absolutely love. That stuff athletics was, a huge
Speaker 5: huge part of my life and a huge part of
Speaker 5: THE reason i got into THE business i.
Speaker 2: Got into so let's transition. Over there for, our audience
Speaker 2: it isn't Familiar because adam's not a very consistent guest.
Speaker 2: Of ours So like i've always found this interesting for
Speaker 2: guys to kind of do what YOU and, i do
Speaker 2: and we have, different jobs we're in the. Same ecosystem
Speaker 2: you have guys like us that played sports, growing up
Speaker 2: and then you HAVE, and I honestly i'm not judging
Speaker 2: one way or. The other but, FOR instance i an
Speaker 2: eagle who is a good friend of, the show and
Speaker 2: as A guy i've known my entire LIFE like i
Speaker 2: and will, tell you do not throw a football, AT
Speaker 2: me i don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: With it but he wanted to be a broadcaster when
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 2: Like, Eight right so you have a lot of play by,
Speaker 2: play guys and most of the play by play guys
Speaker 2: in our market breaking news there are. Not athletes then
Speaker 2: you have guys that tried to play sports.
Speaker 7: LIKE you.
Speaker 2: I want i wanted to be the starting point guard For.
Speaker 2: THE knicks i mean that was. My thing and, YOU
Speaker 2: know i PLAYED until i was about NINETEEN when i
Speaker 2: tried to play against pros AND then, I, realized okay
Speaker 2: if you want to be, around this you got to
Speaker 2: find something else. To do so what kind of lit
Speaker 2: the fire for you to follow? This path and how
Speaker 2: did you land in?
Speaker 5: Our market that's a, great question and it's actually SOMETHING
Speaker 5: that i really liked talking about because you're, right there
Speaker 5: there are many many different kinds of, you know professional
Speaker 5: sports casters. Walking around some of the smartest ones when
Speaker 5: it comes to the analytics and the x's and o's
Speaker 5: and maybe memorizing stats and things like that are guys
Speaker 5: that weren't. Athletes themselves they just fell in love with
Speaker 5: the sport and probably there's a certain sense of living
Speaker 5: vicariously through it now when it comes to me and
Speaker 5: the one SPORT that i, left out you know when
Speaker 5: talking about you know what made me TICK when i was,
Speaker 5: growing UP all i wanted to DO when i was
Speaker 5: maybe ten through sixteen was. Played baseball that was another
Speaker 5: SPORT that i played and unfortunately had to give up
Speaker 5: at one POINT because i just wasn't. Good Enough But Holy,
Speaker 5: TOLEDO spence i was the biggest, baseball fan baseball. CARD
Speaker 5: collector i grew up about forty forty Minutes, from SEATTLE
Speaker 5: and i would DO everything i could talk my dad
Speaker 5: and to take Me to. Mariners games and it wasn't just,
Speaker 5: you know to go sit in the know in our
Speaker 5: seats and watch. The game it was to go down
Speaker 5: and try and meet the players and take a handful
Speaker 5: of baseball cards and trying to get autographs and stuff.
Speaker 5: Like that and then it was a really really. STRANGE
Speaker 5: twist i was actually playing On a pony state championship
Speaker 5: TEAM when i was fourteen, years OLD and i was
Speaker 5: still clinging to this IDEA that i could work hard
Speaker 5: enough and probably grew up to be a professional. Baseball
Speaker 5: player one DAY and i was just kind of crossing
Speaker 5: that threshold of being a little more realistic as a.
Speaker 5: HUMAN being i feel like once you get into, high
Speaker 5: school he kind of have to start facing. Certain realities
Speaker 5: and at, one POINT and i think my DAD and
Speaker 5: i had just. Wrapped up, he was, you know he
Speaker 5: was running marathons at, the time and so he would
Speaker 5: run for, an hour hour and a half at our
Speaker 5: local track AND then i would throw a baseball against
Speaker 5: the wall while he, did that AND then i would
Speaker 5: probably run, for maybe, you know the last ten minutes
Speaker 5: with him something. Like That so i'm going on and
Speaker 5: ON like i, always do about playing baseball AND maybe
Speaker 5: i can be a switch hitter and this and that
Speaker 5: and the. Other thing and for, whatever reason my dad
Speaker 5: had finally had it and he, Just, said adam you're,
Speaker 5: my SON and i, love you but you are never
Speaker 5: going to be a professional. Baseball player and it just broke.
Speaker 5: My HEART and i, trust me there's a happy ending to.
Speaker 5: This story AND so i was so kind of irritated,
Speaker 5: By IT like i walked into the house and had
Speaker 5: tears in my eyes and didn't pick a fight with
Speaker 5: my dad or anything. LIKE that i just kind of
Speaker 5: had to let it sit. And digest and then it
Speaker 5: was probably a couple of, DAYS later i thought, to
Speaker 5: myself you, know what, he's right and good for him
Speaker 5: for actually saying something. Like THAT but i didn't want
Speaker 5: to let the dream die necessarily like. Right there SO
Speaker 5: what i DID is i thought, to myself WHAT can?
Speaker 5: I do WHAT can i possibly do with myself to
Speaker 5: MAKE sure i stay as close to the arena? As
Speaker 5: possible HOW can i figure out a way to go
Speaker 5: to baseball games for the rest of? My Life and
Speaker 5: i've got a famous uncle by the Name Of rick
Speaker 5: lukens who's a Sportscaster, and spokane and by him being,
Speaker 5: on television he was with THE local abc In m
Speaker 5: spokane for. Thirty years with him being, on television it
Speaker 5: was kind of a REALITY that i might be able
Speaker 5: to do THIS if i go to school and pay
Speaker 5: attention and set goals and try and run. Him DOWN
Speaker 5: so i decided then instead of being a, baseball player
Speaker 5: probably the next best thing would be to be a
Speaker 5: sportscaster and get to interview people At The king Dome
Speaker 5: and seattle and lo, AND behold I think i'm twenty
Speaker 5: two years old Working At Fox Sports north Class, in
Speaker 5: seattle and wasn't one hundred percent SURE that i wanted
Speaker 5: to go to the career path that this is RIGHT
Speaker 5: after i Graduated from wazoo and it was the first,
Speaker 5: time that, you know a reporter took me on a
Speaker 5: story with THEM and i got to help out. With
Speaker 5: IT and i called my mom at her office at
Speaker 5: home from the field At safegu FIELD and i, just, Said,
Speaker 5: Hey mom i'm going to be. A sportscaster and, she,
Speaker 5: said well, good honey go. For it and then the
Speaker 5: rest is kind. Of, history sorry that was a, long
Speaker 5: story but that's that's the truth, Right.
Speaker 2: There ADAM as i say it all, MY guests i
Speaker 2: have four hours of space.
Speaker 1: To fill you can take forty five minutes if.
Speaker 2: You'd like so you've you've been here for fifteen, sixteen
Speaker 2: years it, feels.
Speaker 5: Better, right yeah it'll be fifteen Years.
Speaker 7: In.
Speaker 2: July okay so here's THE question i wanted to get
Speaker 2: to as we move into kind of where we find ourselvesselves.
Speaker 2: Here locally, You know i've got a kind of unique
Speaker 2: paradigm when it comes to this COMMUNITY because i was
Speaker 2: born here and then moved and grew, up elsewhere and
Speaker 2: then came back and went to, college here so it's
Speaker 2: kind of home and then kind of. Isn't home it's
Speaker 2: been home essentially for twenty five, straight years so and it's.
Speaker 2: GOOD living i love it here. For sure IT'S why
Speaker 2: i choose to. Live HERE and i am pretty STUNNED
Speaker 2: when i take a step back and consider how much
Speaker 2: we have grown as a sporting market. IN community i
Speaker 2: would SAY since i was in school At the University
Speaker 2: of utah in the. LATE nineties, i mean it's. Pretty stunning,
Speaker 2: of course we have additional properties Like ray Al saw
Speaker 2: lake and the, hockey club but we also have evolved
Speaker 2: into this really undeniable college, football market and WE'RE an,
Speaker 2: nba market even though our team right now is on serious.
Speaker 2: About winning how have you seen our market change and
Speaker 2: grow in your fifteen.
Speaker 5: Years, here yeah that's a really. Good question and again
Speaker 5: it's another thing that the keepshin coming back here after
Speaker 5: year because, you know not ONLY do i have some,
Speaker 5: STABILITY here i mean, you know the fact that there's
Speaker 5: still multiple radio stations that that cover sports in this
Speaker 5: market is a real indicator of how strong it.
Speaker 2: Is here the, Multiple, STATIONS adam I didn't i thought
Speaker 2: there was only, one MAN and, i, apologize well and, you.
Speaker 5: Know ALL four tv stations still, do sports and sports
Speaker 5: is the first thing to go when when times get.
Speaker 5: Up again, YOU know i always mentioned Them, from SEATTLE and,
Speaker 5: i Am and seattle's a good, sports town but it's it's.
Speaker 5: Fair weather it's not like it is here with with.
Speaker 5: THE diehards, i mean People in seattle have lots of
Speaker 5: other things that they'd, rather do rather, go do than watch.
Speaker 5: SPORTING events i grew up with a Love for UTAH
Speaker 5: because i Was a, sonics fan And the sonics And
Speaker 5: the jazz had great rivalries over. The years my brother
Speaker 5: used To Impersonate jeff hornisack in the backyard whenever he'd
Speaker 5: be chewed up a. Three ball and so. It's funny
Speaker 5: it took me moving HERE because i had this this
Speaker 5: Remembrance Of Salt. Lake city and, you know, of course
Speaker 5: my my my career path took me in A southeast
Speaker 5: sidaho and then a long waist. FROM home i Was,
Speaker 5: In champagne ILLINOIS before i got my, job here and
Speaker 5: SO when i, MOVED here i was hit with the
Speaker 5: Realization that utah had become a. Football town and that
Speaker 5: has everything to do with the success Of the University
Speaker 5: of utah and a lot to do with what, you
Speaker 5: know happens just down the Road in. Provo too they're
Speaker 5: absolutely sports, praised here and then, you know the jazz
Speaker 5: are are kind of the main attraction and they make
Speaker 5: the whole world. Go AROUND but i think one of
Speaker 5: the coolest things is the act that the hockey club
Speaker 5: has taken off the way that, it has and that's
Speaker 5: the biggest Change that. I'VE noticed i think people here
Speaker 5: are absolutely, sports crazed and the pulse of that has
Speaker 5: only gone Up since i've. Been here but with the,
Speaker 5: hockey club it's like. ANYTHING else i like to call
Speaker 5: it an experiment when it's just, taking off and when
Speaker 5: it's just, GETTING legs i no longer referred to it as.
Speaker 5: An experiment and the first whole season isn't. Done yet
Speaker 5: this town has absolutely wrapped itself around. That club the
Speaker 5: atmospheres are so different and so rocking and so. Much
Speaker 5: FUN and I Think salt lake has not changed as
Speaker 5: a sports Market since i've, been here but it just
Speaker 5: continues and continues to. Impress me and then let's be.
Speaker 5: HONEST too, i mean we meet a lot of people
Speaker 5: who are like minded in the industry from, different places
Speaker 5: and they all just kind of sit back and marvel
Speaker 5: the fact that we've got, a really really good thing.
Speaker 5: GOING here i don't think the place, has changed but
Speaker 5: the fact that it has stayed the same and gotten
Speaker 5: a little bit better rather than trend in the. Opposite
Speaker 5: direction that's what really really knocks my, socks off because
Speaker 5: so many other places sports aren't gaining, in popularity they're
Speaker 5: actually waning. In popularity does that? Make?
Speaker 2: Sense yeah and you know it's wild to consider If
Speaker 2: the millers are able to successfully bring Us Major. LEAGUE baseball,
Speaker 2: i mean, for you as a kid in growing Up,
Speaker 2: in seattle can you imagine Covering a mariner's game three
Speaker 2: miles from where you're working right now? AT them.
Speaker 5: I couldn't, and honestly, you know the stadium plans kind
Speaker 5: of stick To The rose, park area which IS where i.
Speaker 5: LIVE now, i, mean honestly If A Major league baseball
Speaker 5: stadium was built within five miles OF where i have
Speaker 5: my home, RIGHT now i don't KNOW what I that
Speaker 5: i'd be able to, contain myself and as a professional
Speaker 5: in this market and somebody. WHO relies, i mean we
Speaker 5: cover sports for, a living, and honestly sometimes it can
Speaker 5: be a. BIT much, i mean we have so much
Speaker 5: to cover as, it is and then, don't forget, you
Speaker 5: know for someone like me who goes out and, shoots
Speaker 5: video the turn story is on a. DAILY basis i
Speaker 5: get really enveloped in the spring high school. SPORTS season,
Speaker 5: i mean you're gonna see me out at state championship,
Speaker 5: soccer games softball and, baseball games things. Like that so
Speaker 5: there's already a ton. To cover so it'd be a
Speaker 5: really really good problem to have to add one more professional.
Speaker 5: Franchise here and, YET again, i mean if, that happens it's, Gonna.
Speaker 5: Work spence nothing doesn't Work In Salt. Lake city these
Speaker 5: are sports crazed humans here and it's a really wonderful place.
Speaker 2: To be so let's move over a couple questions about
Speaker 2: the here, and now And then i'll set you LOOSE
Speaker 2: because i know you got to get, to IT and
Speaker 2: i reference your ability or just your choice or whatever
Speaker 2: it is to wax positive regardless of what's. Going on And,
Speaker 2: the jazz for the first time in fifty plus years,
Speaker 2: of basketball just lost their, sixtieth game and they've just
Speaker 2: lost their sixty first and they're probably going to lose
Speaker 2: the rest of. The way so this is the deal, For.
Speaker 2: ME adam, i mean, You know i'm a child of.
Speaker 2: This organization nobody wants me to, see them, you know
Speaker 2: but nobody wants to see them win a championship MORE than.
Speaker 1: I do and they're doing the.
Speaker 2: Right thing it just sucks like with the, you, know
Speaker 2: right like with the ecosystem OF the nba and the
Speaker 2: way that the league, is structured and, you know essentially
Speaker 2: how you kind of have to go about this because
Speaker 2: of the way THAT the nba is, you know put
Speaker 2: together to bring talent to certain markets based us to,
Speaker 2: certain mechanisms NAMELY The.
Speaker 1: NBA draft i get.
Speaker 2: THE approach i think they should have done this two
Speaker 2: years Ago When victor wemanamo.
Speaker 1: Was available but it is what.
Speaker 2: It is what has been the biggest challenge in covering
Speaker 2: a team that's unseerious? About winning and what are some
Speaker 2: of the positive things that you've noticed?
Speaker 7: This year and just to kind.
Speaker 5: Of elaborate a little bit more for everybody, at home
Speaker 5: how significant this season. HAS been i think the inaugural
Speaker 5: Season of jazz basketball that Was In new orleans and
Speaker 5: what was it, seventy three Seventy four, i'm, closer, right yeah,
Speaker 5: huh yep twenty three wins total in the first, season
Speaker 5: EVER and i believe that's the all time fewest wins
Speaker 5: For a jazz team. Single season they are going to
Speaker 5: eclipse that if everything, goes well and as weird as
Speaker 5: that is, to sound they're Going to they're gonna set
Speaker 5: a franchise record for the fewest wins in a. Single
Speaker 5: season and it's. By design so here it's been a
Speaker 5: it's kind of been an evolution thing. FOR me i
Speaker 5: wasn't ready to and AND AGAIN i i have because,
Speaker 5: you know we're we're we on kJ ass KUTV on
Speaker 5: kjas and we Are the. Jazz station i'm, You KNOW
Speaker 5: i'm i have an obligation to cover, this team and
Speaker 5: it's a wonderful obligation. To have i've been doing live
Speaker 5: Shots at jazz games, this year probably more so than any,
Speaker 5: time before and it's because we want to be there
Speaker 5: and we want to we want to represent our product
Speaker 5: as best. We can and it took me a while
Speaker 5: to kind of evolve out of the Mode, of, okay
Speaker 5: well let's talk about. The positives they almost got the,
Speaker 5: win tonight and then finally, to, saying Okay the jazz,
Speaker 5: last tonight and that's a that's that's a. Beautiful thing
Speaker 5: it's just. Absolutely weird but once it kind of became,
Speaker 5: You Know danny ames hasn't had a press, for instance
Speaker 5: given us the exact blueprints of this, plan whatsoever but
Speaker 5: it's it's implied that this is what they want, to
Speaker 5: do if it makes Sense what i'm saying here. Right
Speaker 5: now so just looking at the development of the youngsters
Speaker 5: has has been Something that i've been trying to do
Speaker 5: THE best. I can i've we had You On talking
Speaker 5: Jazz on tuesday night and YOU and i were just
Speaker 5: going on and on about how much we Like washing
Speaker 5: isaiah call. Your play so it has been kind of
Speaker 5: a work, in progress and the hardest thing for me
Speaker 5: to do was kind of allow myself to accept the
Speaker 5: fact that losing is by design when it comes to.
Speaker 5: This team AND once i let that kind, of go
Speaker 5: it just became a little bit easier to focus on the.
Speaker 5: Young talent and, you know the, other, thing too is the.
Speaker 5: Locker room these guys kind of know who, they are
Speaker 5: AND so i kept waiting for it to get to
Speaker 5: a point where it would be really difficult to go
Speaker 5: in there and talk to. Those players but they've been terrific.
Speaker 5: This season they've made it easy to kind of look
Speaker 5: at the positive side of things and to know that
Speaker 5: this is what the team needs to do to growth
Speaker 5: in the. Right direction those kids in that locker room
Speaker 5: have made it real easy to do, my JOB and
Speaker 5: I guess i'm really appreciative, of that and So As will.
Speaker 5: Hardy too like he's a great, sound bite he's, very
Speaker 5: thoughtful and he's he's also really easy to. Talk to so,
Speaker 5: once you, ONCE you, i guess learn to accept the
Speaker 5: fact that losing. Is winning this season in a very,
Speaker 5: unique way it kind of became easier and easier as it.
Speaker 5: Went along that make.
Speaker 2: Any sense, It does, it does and it takes some time. To,
Speaker 2: understand like if you're working in an ecosystem that, incentivizes
Speaker 2: losing you're going to lean into it because the incentive
Speaker 2: structure says this is the right thing. To do so
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a don't hate, the player hate the,
Speaker 2: Game THING like i just don't like THAT the nba
Speaker 2: incentivizes What the jazz, are doing BUT the, nba does
Speaker 2: So the jazz have to. Do it BUT before i
Speaker 2: set you loose, at him we are the home Of,
Speaker 2: the utes and we had a rough football season and
Speaker 2: another rough, basketball SEASON but i think that there's a
Speaker 2: lot of optimism for next year on. Both sides we'll
Speaker 2: finish with the, football program but before we, Do That
Speaker 2: alex jensen has been hired as a seventeenth coach and
Speaker 2: men's basketball History H keato dawes withdrew from the. Transfer
Speaker 2: portal he's. Coming Back And terrence brown has been added
Speaker 2: as a Transfer From Fairleigh. Dickinson university and when you
Speaker 2: look at the, composite rankings he is one of the
Speaker 2: top guards on the. Transfer market so we have two pieces.
Speaker 2: In place but you, You, know ajay what would you
Speaker 2: say to you fans about what they should should expect
Speaker 2: now that he's.
Speaker 7: IN charge I just I.
Speaker 5: LOVE alex i think he's a, great guy. You know,
Speaker 5: you know it's been one of my favorite things. About
Speaker 5: him we work in a really, hectic profession, you know
Speaker 5: especially you know again covering post game for. A living,
Speaker 5: i mean, you know at least once or twice, A
Speaker 5: week i go to a, sporting event win. OR lose
Speaker 5: i go do, post games scrap it, all together and then,
Speaker 5: you know just get to a, live shot, you know
Speaker 5: running to get there and make it. On time it's
Speaker 5: a it's. A hecticronment alex has this, laid, back cool
Speaker 5: calm demeanor about him everywhere. He GOES and i got
Speaker 5: To know alex when he was a course working for
Speaker 5: Working For quinn snyder And The utah jazz and he
Speaker 5: was never not sitting down Courtside With rudy gobert with
Speaker 5: an iPad just looking through video and he's, just, calm
Speaker 5: impatient and a. WELCOMING person i think it's going to
Speaker 5: be really really interesting to see him developing college level
Speaker 5: TALENT because i think he's cut out. FOR it i
Speaker 5: think there's like a nurturing Side. TO alex i think
Speaker 5: there's a thoughtfulness that is perfect for coaching kids who
Speaker 5: are coming right out of high school and growing them into.
Speaker 5: A program i just think he's going to create a.
Speaker 5: Family Environment and i'm not saying that wasn't Present With.
Speaker 5: CRAIG smith i was A Huge craig smith fan and
Speaker 5: it broke my heart when he got. Let Go but
Speaker 5: alex is going to bring the family Aspect of utah
Speaker 5: basketball Back. TO utah i think that's a big part
Speaker 5: of the reason they want him for. This job and
Speaker 5: then you know you've kind of prefaceed this part of
Speaker 5: you know our segment today talking about the transfer portal
Speaker 5: and how competitive it. IS there i think the biggest
Speaker 5: thing that a coach can bring in the table for
Speaker 5: a program that wants to be competitives these days is
Speaker 5: to find a way to keep kids at. Your school
Speaker 5: don't have kids three quarters of the way through the
Speaker 5: season when they're not perfect and nothing's going. Absolutely perfect
Speaker 5: get them from putting their heads in the gutter and thinking.
Speaker 5: About leaving find a way to make a program that
Speaker 5: kids don't want. To leave and That's why i'm so
Speaker 5: Excited for alex to. COME here i think he's going
Speaker 5: to be great.
Speaker 2: At that, all right, last thing, You know utah football
Speaker 2: last year was installed as the favorite to Win The
Speaker 2: big twelve by our Friends In. Las vegas the Media
Speaker 2: pick utadh to Win the big twelve, local national, you
Speaker 2: KNOW and I wonder adam this year if you pull
Speaker 2: up the way To early big. Twelve list as far
Speaker 2: as what people think is gonna happen, Next year utah
Speaker 2: for the most part is, like five six. Or seven they're, mid, table,
Speaker 2: Okay okay so you remove the pressure of everybody saying
Speaker 2: you're going to Win The. Big twelve the cfp's expanded,
Speaker 2: to twelve so you're going to. That too what gives
Speaker 2: you the most hope that year two In the big
Speaker 2: twelve can be a lot Better for utah football than year. One, WAS.
Speaker 5: Okay i hope he's not listening, right NOW because i
Speaker 5: don't mean it the way. It sounds but the Fact
Speaker 5: that utah has undeniably moved On From, CAM rising i
Speaker 5: think is the first step in the. Right direction, You
Speaker 5: know cam his last two seasons was never a, sure
Speaker 5: thing and there were lots of ups and downs that
Speaker 5: were just there and always it already is as long
Speaker 5: as he. Was Around what's cam? Gonna Do how's cam going?
Speaker 5: To be it looked pretty good through a couple of
Speaker 5: games this, last season AND then i don't know what
Speaker 5: he was trying to pull in the Game. Against baylor
Speaker 5: i've got a ton of respect for. THIS kid i
Speaker 5: think he's one of, the best not, only quarterbacks but
Speaker 5: one of the best leaders That the utah football has
Speaker 5: had Since since i've. Been here and he's got a
Speaker 5: tremendous upside and he's going to have a. Right future
Speaker 5: but the fact that they're moving on from that era
Speaker 5: and moving into, SOMETHING else i think is the first
Speaker 5: step in the. Right direction and, THEN yeah i think
Speaker 5: there's a little juice up. There Too With. JASON beck
Speaker 5: i hadn't had a chance to meet HIM until i
Speaker 5: was up at practice On a friday a couple of,
Speaker 5: weeks ago and we got to talk to a lot
Speaker 5: of the coordinators and he just looks bright at and
Speaker 5: bushy tailed and ready to make mistakes and fix those
Speaker 5: mistakes and get his. Hands dirty and the, other, thing
Speaker 5: too is he's playing for you like to call me.
Speaker 5: The goat the Goat Is. KYLE whittingham, i mean that's
Speaker 5: the biggest arrow in the quiver That the University of
Speaker 5: utah Has is they've they've got one of the deans
Speaker 5: of college football running, their program and guys just seemed
Speaker 5: to love to play. For HIM and I think i
Speaker 5: think as Long As kyle whittingham, IS there I think
Speaker 5: utah's is it's going to be a force to.
Speaker 2: Be, recover adam you're. The man appreciate. The time it
Speaker 2: was fun being on television with you. This week have a, great,
Speaker 2: weekend buddy will. Chat, soon okay thanks.
Speaker 5: E anything appreciate you, All Right.
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Speaker 3: You Optimizing but i'm not necessarily in tune the moon at.
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Speaker 2: That well, right now it's a good time to optimize
Speaker 2: and have an abundance mindset as The Moon zach harper
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Speaker 7: TELL me i looked at the moon. LAST night i
Speaker 7: saw that it was about to, wax CRESCENT so.
Speaker 2: I knew the natural follow up is are? You optimizing
Speaker 2: do you have an? ABUNDANCE mindset i always have an.
Speaker 7: ABUNDANCE mindset i wake up with an. ABUNDANCE mindset i
Speaker 7: make SURE that i speak it. INTO existence i go
Speaker 7: to bed with an. ABUNDANCE mindset, I manifest i, vision
Speaker 7: BOARD and i do.
Speaker 2: It all but are you practicing feeling the feeling even
Speaker 2: though the thing hasn't? Happened Yet, because zach what is
Speaker 2: meant for you will never be kept.
Speaker 7: From, you well not, only THAT but i.
Speaker 2: Journal it, oh perfect then you know what you put.
Speaker 2: Into practice i've got Nothing at you are on, your way.
Speaker 2: Young man i'm proud.
Speaker 7: Of you thank you. Very much i've done a lot
Speaker 7: of practice.
Speaker 2: With this one more? Follow up are you dating with inten?
Speaker 2: Right now you Have, to, yeah yeah, that's new. THAT'S
Speaker 2: new i didn't know that was the thing is how
Speaker 2: long how long has this been?
Speaker 1: Going on you need to help.
Speaker 2: Me out i'm new on.
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Speaker 7: say like dating in with intention and and being in
Speaker 7: a provider slash protector role has been about a six
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Speaker 2: Month thing, ah okay we'll keep your phone on you
Speaker 2: Because as i'm going through, THIS process i have a lot.
Speaker 7: Of, questions, okay, yeah yeah it's, Oh, MAN yeah I
Speaker 7: got i got you with any of.
Speaker 2: That, stuff okay, ALL right I do i need? Some
Speaker 2: guidance this, is wild? All Right isaiah collier's optimizing? What
Speaker 2: transition no? Big deal? All right So the jazz have
Speaker 2: sent out some media packets to folks that. Are voters
Speaker 2: are you? A voter to you?
Speaker 7: A voter?
Speaker 2: Aren't? You, yeah okay so my guess is you receive one,
Speaker 2: of these and, You, know zach it's the only postseason
Speaker 2: Award the jazz have any chance outside of.
Speaker 1: Maybe the number One over, i'll pick but we'll get
Speaker 1: there in.
Speaker 2: The moment, and initially like, you, hear, like Hey is
Speaker 2: isaiah call? Your Broke john stockton's, assist, record, well Okay
Speaker 2: like john played eighteen minutes a night his. Rookie year
Speaker 2: he Played Behind, ricky green he had, Five STARTS so
Speaker 2: i think it's four hundred and. Seventy assists, or whatever
Speaker 2: but ultimately for a season that is void in bright
Speaker 2: spots for. The team when you look at the rookie class,
Speaker 2: This year isaam might have a case to be made for,
Speaker 2: first team maybe, second team definitely.
Speaker 1: All rookie do you think he has.
Speaker 7: A chance i don't think he has any kind of
Speaker 7: case for first team. Like that that seems not possible
Speaker 7: to ME because i think right off, the rip You've,
Speaker 7: got Castle, wells Resa Che edie sar And Then khalil
Speaker 7: wear's in there two, you KNOW like i think those
Speaker 7: six have a better case than. He does but then
Speaker 7: once you get past those second team is definitely in.
Speaker 7: A MIX like i don't know that there is a
Speaker 7: strong case outside of those six that would bump him
Speaker 7: definitely out of out of all rookie. Second team and
Speaker 7: he's he's closed really well and even though the team
Speaker 7: has been, A MESS like, i mean he had a
Speaker 7: really good game the, Other night like he's he's. Playing better,
Speaker 7: you know the shot making, Is whatever he's making decent decisions,
Speaker 7: Out there the assists have. Been there, you know the
Speaker 7: scoring is kind of in. And out BUT like i
Speaker 7: think you're seeing it's it's tough, to tell, BUT like
Speaker 7: i feel like you're seeing some, progress, There, right like
Speaker 7: he's definitely better than he was two.
Speaker 1: Months, ago yeah he's thirty two from three Since He all.
Speaker 2: Star, breaking look that's, not awesome but it's better than
Speaker 2: like twenty two, twenty one which is where he was
Speaker 2: at the start, the year, you, Know.
Speaker 7: Right YEAH like i don't know that the shot, looks
Speaker 7: good but it doesn't. LOOK atrocious i think his shot decisions.
Speaker 7: Are better, and AGAIN like, I mean i feel like
Speaker 7: we're saying the same things that, we, did well maybe
Speaker 7: not the same things we Did With, kante george but.
Speaker 7: Similar things. You know, with that it was the shot
Speaker 7: looks good he's taking, you know he creates, good shots
Speaker 7: why aren't they? Going in and that's what we Saw
Speaker 7: at baylor With, With collier it's it's a bit of
Speaker 7: a different conversation in that he was a top prospect
Speaker 7: coming out of. HIGH school i think THE whole usc
Speaker 7: program and experience set. Him back and now, he's trying,
Speaker 7: you know he And the jazz are trying to correct
Speaker 7: whatever that year, you know kind of messed up for
Speaker 7: him and getting him in real, basketball development in a
Speaker 7: real program in, you know a real abundance mindset when
Speaker 7: it comes to there you go and trying, to correct,
Speaker 7: you know whatever stunt that that year had to his
Speaker 7: growth AND and i do think it took him a
Speaker 7: little while to get into. GOOD habits i think he's exhibiting,
Speaker 7: good habits a good decision making whether the shots are there.
Speaker 7: Or not you're at least seeing a much different player
Speaker 7: from just a professionalism standpoint on the court than what
Speaker 7: we saw in the first half of. The season, AND that,
Speaker 7: i mean if you're gonna take anything away from this
Speaker 7: mess of the season For, the jazz that's.
Speaker 2: A positive so you Bring Up, kyante george who's clearly
Speaker 2: not in. The vortex so let's. Let's move, i'm sorry
Speaker 2: THAT'S just i. Can't help this.
Speaker 7: IS great i would do this every radio hit we
Speaker 7: do for the rest of. The year.
Speaker 2: WE can, I mean i just, You know kyante clearly
Speaker 2: is not manifesting like everything is always working out. For
Speaker 2: me all you have to do is repeat in. The mirror,
Speaker 2: but look we haven't Talked about kyante in, A while,
Speaker 2: and anecdotally somebody down with the team about three weeks
Speaker 2: ago said, to, me like you are Higher on keyante
Speaker 2: than they are behind, the Scenes and i'm not that High.
Speaker 2: On kyante he just listens to. The show i've just
Speaker 2: tried to take this positive. Spin wherever since he was
Speaker 2: brought off, the bench maybe he's settled into the ROLE
Speaker 2: that i think he always was going to settle into no,
Speaker 2: matter what even when he, was starting even when he
Speaker 2: was the starting.
Speaker 1: League guard way too many.
Speaker 2: Bad decisions he might be among the worst defensive players
Speaker 2: in all of. Pro basketball i'm getting the sense, Down,
Speaker 2: there zach that they don't really view him as part of,
Speaker 2: their future which is wild to think about because last
Speaker 2: year he was like the only young player that. Played
Speaker 2: well so let's get an up To Date zach harper
Speaker 2: take on the player that clearly is not in the vortex,
Speaker 2: Right Now. Chiante, george yeah it.
Speaker 7: Feels a little bit like when people, talk, like oh
Speaker 7: they have like a, young child and then a new
Speaker 7: baby comes into, the mix and now that maybe gets
Speaker 7: all the yep, the attention Right Like isaiah collier is the,
Speaker 7: new Baby And kante george has kind of been. PUSHED
Speaker 7: aside i, feel, Like look i'm not Watching every jazz
Speaker 7: game front, to BACK but i feel LIKE when i,
Speaker 7: check in like some of the games he has off,
Speaker 7: The bench, i'm like he was. Pretty good now the
Speaker 7: bar is, very, Low right like the bar for him is,
Speaker 7: Very low AND so i don't Know if i'm, Judged
Speaker 7: THAT like i gotta, Be, HONEST like i don't Know
Speaker 7: if i'm judging that based on LIKE what i expect
Speaker 7: out of A good nba player OR what i expect
Speaker 7: out of him and the jazz and so it's probably
Speaker 7: what it's probably. THE latter i think there is a
Speaker 7: good backup guard within. HIS future i do think the.
Speaker 7: Talent's there the decision making has not been there in
Speaker 7: his in his time in the league, so far and
Speaker 7: like he has been in the league a while to
Speaker 7: still be making some of. These mistakes, but also, you
Speaker 7: know part, of it this is gonna be a. Weird
Speaker 7: Comparison but i've, been Taught like i've got a bunch
Speaker 7: of friends Who are, blazers fans and they keep like
Speaker 7: they've been complaining for three years Now About chauncey billups as,
Speaker 7: a COACH and i, Keep, SAYING look i have no
Speaker 7: Idea If chauncey billups as a. GOOD coach i do
Speaker 7: know he's never been given a good team because even
Speaker 7: when he, took over like those teams were injured, right
Speaker 7: away and so he was tanking and not given like
Speaker 7: an Actual Old damian lillard's season and not, you know
Speaker 7: and then finally, you know the trade away. And everything
Speaker 7: and he's been giving teams that are THAT are i
Speaker 7: guess in teardown years and then in, rebuilding years AND
Speaker 7: so i have no idea if he can COACH like
Speaker 7: i have. No idea we saw a good stretch With
Speaker 7: the blazers this year in the second half and it started,
Speaker 7: Looking PROMISING but i don't know if he's a. Good
Speaker 7: Coach With, kiante George the jazz have been such a
Speaker 7: mess in these tear down and. Rebuilding years maybe if
Speaker 7: you put him around actual, good players it would elevate.
Speaker 7: His game he wouldn't have to make so. Many decisions
Speaker 7: it would, you know kind kind of everything would rise
Speaker 7: up and kind of steady things. For him so maybe
Speaker 7: that is an environment he needs to. Be in but
Speaker 7: man like it just. It do it's not as promising
Speaker 7: as he wanted. To be and and when you get
Speaker 7: into the conversation, of, like okay he could be a,
Speaker 7: backup guard there's a lot of backup guard options IN.
Speaker 2: The, nba yeah and there were moments that he showed
Speaker 2: after he kind of was the only young player to
Speaker 2: get starts and minutes, last, Year, like okay maybe we got,
Speaker 2: something here, but yeah to your Point, about isaiah and
Speaker 2: you can talk about this with most of their Young.
Speaker 2: Player zach which is Why whenever, I'm asked i'm always
Speaker 2: asked the. Same QUESTION if i go on other shows or,
Speaker 2: do podcasts Or even i'm talking to, jazz fans they
Speaker 2: always say who will be here when they're? Good AGAIN and,
Speaker 2: i honestly at this point it's PROBABLY and i don't
Speaker 2: know when that's. Gonna Be and marketing is in his,
Speaker 2: Late twenties walker's about to be in his. Mid twenties
Speaker 2: like part of me wants to answer, the, question like
Speaker 2: there's a chance that none of these players are here
Speaker 2: When the jazz are actually, good AGAIN because i have
Speaker 2: so many question marks about so many of them Outside
Speaker 2: of Marketing. And kessler but because they're not close to being,
Speaker 2: GOOD again i can't even Say that Lowry and walker
Speaker 2: will be here When the jazz are actually GOOD because
Speaker 2: i don't know when that's.
Speaker 7: Gonna, Be YEAH like I guess i don't Look at,
Speaker 7: lowry like if they're calling this now like the, actual
Speaker 7: REBUILD then I assume, lowry is, you know this, summer,
Speaker 7: Available RIGHT like i like the whole reason that with
Speaker 7: the timing of the extension and everything was so that
Speaker 7: he wouldn't be traded. This YEAR but i would assume
Speaker 7: teams are going to be interested in him this summer
Speaker 7: and you've got to do your due diligence to see
Speaker 7: what you can get for him and if, that helps,
Speaker 7: you know bring in assets or young players Or Whatever
Speaker 7: danny Age And justin zanek are. Looking for AND so
Speaker 7: i wouldn't expect him to be here. Long term if that's,
Speaker 7: the case then, to me, you know as Nice, As
Speaker 7: collier collier has, Looked recently like, To Me walker kessler
Speaker 7: is the only guy who has a definite skill set
Speaker 7: FOR the nba, right now and so he's the only
Speaker 7: ONE that i, would, say, like yeah he'll probably be here,
Speaker 7: long TERM but, I, Don't yeah i'm, With, YOU like,
Speaker 7: I don't i don't know who. That is like maybe
Speaker 7: if this kid gets healthy and and can show what
Speaker 7: he can do defensively on, the court maybe that's That's,
Speaker 7: that's taylor, you KNOW like. I don't i, don't KNOW like,
Speaker 7: I don't i don't know that they have, those guys
Speaker 7: which is kind of tough when you've been even drafting
Speaker 7: a bunch, of dudes, you know in the first round
Speaker 7: of the last couple.
Speaker 2: Of years what is your favorite slash most accurate player
Speaker 2: Comp For, Cooper flag i've, you know as he has
Speaker 2: kind of played his way because a lot of people
Speaker 2: probably heard the name and then hadn't watched him. Play
Speaker 2: much and then the tournament rolls around and everybody watches,
Speaker 2: the tournament so now you cannot log onto the intrawebs
Speaker 2: about getting another piece and a think piece About Who
Speaker 2: cooper flag could be IN.
Speaker 1: The nba and sometimes the comp game.
Speaker 2: Can be a little bit frustrating because it puts on
Speaker 2: realistic expectations in the minds. Of fans but this is
Speaker 2: a market that badly is hoping this pain tolerance, pays
Speaker 2: Off And cooper flag is a.
Speaker 1: Jazz man of all the comps, You've, heard zach what
Speaker 1: lands the best?
Speaker 7: For, YOU well i saw someone passed one along to
Speaker 7: me the other day that they that they SAW which
Speaker 7: i thought, was insane Which Was, lamar odom which He
Speaker 7: like lamar odom could handle. The ball cooper flag dribbles
Speaker 7: like it's, The FOOTBALL like i don't see that.
Speaker 5: At all but.
Speaker 7: He can't like he's a good pass not Like lamar.
Speaker 7: Otem was but he. Can pass, TO me, I like
Speaker 7: i'm Sticking With. Sean marion, to me he like he
Speaker 7: like he.
Speaker 5: Can shoot Better Than.
Speaker 7: Sean maryon he can pass a little. Bit better but
Speaker 7: in terms of athlete, defensive impact getting up and down,
Speaker 7: the floor the way he scores on, the move it
Speaker 7: reminds me a Lot Of, sean marion like With.
Speaker 2: The, sons okay, all right You know i've Heard the.
Speaker 2: KAUHAI stuff i feel like that's probably, Best case so
Speaker 2: let me follow up here just because it's of interest in.
Speaker 2: The Market sean marion was really really good at, his,
Speaker 2: peak okay but he wasn't like generationally special cornerstone. Building
Speaker 2: blocks so do you do you believe That if cooper
Speaker 2: stays healthy turn he just turned eighteen three, months ago
Speaker 2: if he stays healthy and is, fully developed you believe
Speaker 2: he can maybe have a better Career Than sean marion
Speaker 2: and actually be a building block for.
Speaker 7: A team it's all going to depend on whether or
Speaker 7: not he becomes someone who can create off. The dribble
Speaker 7: he just can't. RIGHT now i don't understand what people
Speaker 7: are seeing when he tries. To, create, like yeah it
Speaker 7: can work at the college level because like no one
Speaker 7: like you like watch him in the previous game that
Speaker 7: they played and pay attention to, this weekend whether They
Speaker 7: beat houston. Or not and he's the great defensive test
Speaker 7: for him with just the bodies they can throw, at
Speaker 7: him the defense they can throw, at him it'll be
Speaker 7: a great test for how he creates shots because he's
Speaker 7: not strong at handling. The ball so all this stuff
Speaker 7: that he that he tries to do, to create none
Speaker 7: of that's going to work AT the. Nba level it's
Speaker 7: all going to be set up off of his athleticism
Speaker 7: in him on, the move which. Is fine he's eighteen,
Speaker 7: Years old like he's. Super young he reclassified so he,
Speaker 7: you know he's younger than a prospect would. Normally be
Speaker 7: all of this, is fine and he's got plenty of time.
Speaker 7: To develop but in terms of people thinking of him
Speaker 7: as like this guy who's going to be an, offensive
Speaker 7: weapon he, can't dribble like he just he can't create
Speaker 7: a SHOT against nba level defenders consistently within the flow of.
Speaker 7: The game and if you can't, DO that i just
Speaker 7: don't Know how i'm supposed to believe that you are
Speaker 7: a franchise level. Offensive player it doesn't mean he can't.
Speaker 7: GET there i just haven't seen. It yet there are
Speaker 7: times he tries to go left where he tries to
Speaker 7: go against against like even decent, you, know pressure and
Speaker 7: he's kind of loose with the ball and he doesn't quite,
Speaker 7: get there and so that then he can't utilize his,
Speaker 7: you know his athleticism or. His quickness when he is
Speaker 7: able to get into space and you, use that these
Speaker 7: college players can't keep up.
Speaker 5: With him that's when.
Speaker 7: He's dominant but when he gets a little bit of
Speaker 7: physicality and a little bit of pressure and he doesn't
Speaker 7: he's not able to, use that then you see that,
Speaker 7: loose handle that inability to create that's when it's a struggle.
Speaker 7: For him and that's what it's going to be AT
Speaker 7: the nba level until he can hone. That craft that
Speaker 7: might take, a year, two years. Five years, you know
Speaker 7: hopefully it's on the on the shorter side of that
Speaker 7: and he is able to become that player right away
Speaker 7: because he does have so many other. Special skills he'll
Speaker 7: be a good catch and. Shoot guy he'll be a
Speaker 7: good guy who can make decisions off the short roll
Speaker 7: and moving the ball with the. Extra pass he's going
Speaker 7: to be an excellent. Elite defender all those things, are
Speaker 7: great but in terms, of scoring he's going to be
Speaker 7: limited until he can handle.
Speaker 2: The ball haberstrow this week on the show Dropped The.
Speaker 2: Kevin garnett what do you think?
Speaker 9: Of that?
Speaker 7: That's, Insane that like it was insane when they did
Speaker 7: It With. Anthony davis, All right and is he Better
Speaker 7: Than anthony davis at?
Speaker 2: The, Prospect, no no there are very few prospects that
Speaker 2: were better than ad coming out. OF college a lot, of,
Speaker 2: people don't, you know don't. Remember that, all right let's
Speaker 2: move off the jazz for, a moment and, you know
Speaker 2: it's just time to say that it is okay seeing,
Speaker 2: everybody else and it has been for quite. Some Time,
Speaker 2: golden state what is it twenty and Four With. Jimmy butler,
Speaker 2: you know THEY beat la, last night, you know and,
Speaker 2: everybody played which is always nice because it gives you
Speaker 2: an idea of exactly what sort of hand we've. Been
Speaker 2: dealt and EVERY time i lock in On a warriors
Speaker 2: Game and draymond Looks, like draymond blowing up sets like,
Speaker 2: He was and Of course steph Is, still steph and,
Speaker 2: You know jimmy's always a. Wild card but it's probably
Speaker 2: time to, say that, You Know golden state needs to
Speaker 2: be taking a little more seriously than they have been
Speaker 2: prior to where we're. At currently is?
Speaker 5: THAT fair i.
Speaker 7: THINK so, I mean i think they're right on the.
Speaker 7: Cuff there, you know last night it, looked better but
Speaker 7: there's still plenty of games where they don't generate a
Speaker 7: lot of, easy offense, you know like there's it's still
Speaker 7: it's still like a lot of tough buckets. To, create
Speaker 7: Now sometimes steph can make. That Easy sometimes jimmy can make.
Speaker 7: That easy and there are times where they run a
Speaker 7: couple of plays where, you know they'll they'll run a,
Speaker 7: dribble handoff or they'll run a Play where draymond's got,
Speaker 7: the ball, you know kind of on the elbow Extended
Speaker 7: and jimmy's running a pick Play, with Steph and jimmy
Speaker 7: slips the screen because all that attention is going to
Speaker 7: step and he's got a, you know a wide open
Speaker 7: laft wide, open dunk and it's just like. THAT'S unguardable i,
Speaker 7: DON'T know i don't know where you put your attention.
Speaker 7: On that and so they can they can get some.
Speaker 7: Easy buckets but for the, MOST part i still think
Speaker 7: some of their offense is a slog now that can
Speaker 7: be held by kuminga stepping up and getting into a
Speaker 7: flow or, you know Last night pachemski shot out of.
Speaker 7: His mind he's not a shooter, like that so that
Speaker 7: was a big bonus. For Them If buddy healed starts
Speaker 7: shooting like he's supposed to, be shooting that helps. A
Speaker 7: lot but their offense still isn't as smooth as it needs,
Speaker 7: to be or it has been in their previous. Championship years,
Speaker 7: but man their defense. Is elite their defense is so
Speaker 7: Good with jimmy in, the mix AND and i think
Speaker 7: they're right on the cusp of. BEING there, i mean
Speaker 7: if you other Than, ok see you want me to
Speaker 7: like put them up against Like a denver Or the lakers,
Speaker 7: Or anybody i'll put them ahead of everybody else In.
Speaker 7: The west it's just we got to SEE what okac
Speaker 7: looks like in, the playoffs, you know.
Speaker 2: For sure let me ask you about two teams because
Speaker 2: every week we do this thing, where okay we all
Speaker 2: agree that okay see.
Speaker 1: Is, historic Okay so Lakers. Get luca do we?
Speaker 7: Like them? Of?
Speaker 2: Course, Yo kitches. Yo Kitch. Denver's denver but are you
Speaker 2: buying anything about the recent run from Either the Clippers or?
Speaker 2: Kawhi's BACK and, I know i know you always say
Speaker 2: that clips are going. To clip are you buying anything
Speaker 2: about the recent run and play Of either clippers Or.
Speaker 7: THE timberwolves, i Mean the clippers, look, great RIGHT but
Speaker 7: i mean we can't do this, EVERY year, i know, you,
Speaker 7: know like and nobody wants to Believe in kawhi being
Speaker 7: back more. THAN me, i mean he is. My FAVORITE
Speaker 7: LIKE i I love KAWHI and i want him to
Speaker 7: be HEALTHY and i want to see another playoff run
Speaker 7: because HE'S just, i mean he is a great show
Speaker 7: when when. He's HEALTHY but i just can't believe, in
Speaker 7: it like it's even and even if he is healthy
Speaker 7: as good as, THEY'VE been i don't KNOW that i
Speaker 7: want to believe in this Version Of james harden stepping
Speaker 7: up and Being the umber. TWO guy I just i
Speaker 7: think there's a little bit. Missing there maybe That's, thorm
Speaker 7: powell Maybe, that's zubox who's, been incredible but there's just
Speaker 7: there's something. Missing there but But the clippers. ARE dangerous
Speaker 7: i wouldn't want to play them in the. First Round,
Speaker 7: THE timberwolves i. Don't know it's still a Lot Of.
Speaker 7: Julius randall, you know it's a Lot Of julius randall.
Speaker 7: At Times and aunt can go, super nova and he
Speaker 7: can he can make up for a lot.
Speaker 5: Of that we.
Speaker 7: SAW that, i mean he was having a terrible Game
Speaker 7: against denver that night and then he just went crazy
Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter and picked. Them up and he can,
Speaker 7: do that like he's, you know with the way he fixed,
Speaker 7: his shot he is he is still great and capable of,
Speaker 7: taking over but he still makes some pretty rough decisions.
Speaker 7: At Times uh and and it kind of comes, down,
Speaker 7: to like is McDaniel's going to? Make Shots Is Nikael
Speaker 7: alexander walker gonna? MAKE shots i don't even though they,
Speaker 7: SHOOT well i never fully trust that they're that, you
Speaker 7: know that shot looks good, to me AND and I
Speaker 7: just i Don't Trust. Julius randall but but they do
Speaker 7: seem to have some advantages over for really. GOOD teams
Speaker 7: i mean they They. Own denver over the last, six
Speaker 7: year they've been them six, straight games dating back to
Speaker 7: the playoffs with game six.
Speaker 9: And seven and that's.
Speaker 7: Another team with The way ant goes and the way their,
Speaker 7: SIZE is i wouldn't, trust THEM but i also wouldn't
Speaker 7: want to.
Speaker 2: Play them are you hesitant to Annoying the clippers Because
Speaker 2: of kali's seeming inability to balance the masculine and the. Feminine,
Speaker 2: energy no.
Speaker 9: It's Mostly That james harden sucks in.
Speaker 1: The, playoffs okay, all, right yeah just kicking.
Speaker 2: The tires have, an, idea guy, All, right ZACH before
Speaker 2: i say? YOU lose i Mean, watching yoka it's a
Speaker 2: sixty point, triple doubles so dumb and, so, LIKE, yeah
Speaker 2: mvp where are?
Speaker 1: You at where are you at?
Speaker 7: RIGHT now i just it's two. Historic, seasons yep, It is,
Speaker 7: AND like I don't i hate that everyone's dismissing the
Speaker 7: historic Season that. Shae's having everyone wants to, talk, like,
Speaker 7: well Yeah but yokas is. Doing it, i'm, like yeah
Speaker 7: but no one's Done what, shave's, Done, right like it's
Speaker 7: different values of what you want to, talk about And
Speaker 7: what yokic is doing. Is historic but So, is shay
Speaker 7: AND so i don't want to. Ignore that, to me
Speaker 7: it's even enough that at least, right NOW and i
Speaker 7: got another week to flip flop, on this but at least,
Speaker 7: RIGHT now i think the team Dominance. Of, Okay, SEE
Speaker 7: like i think the winning is the is the tiebreaker.
Speaker 7: For Me like i'm gonna keep reevaluating, and SEE but
Speaker 7: i think the winning has, to matter, YOU know i.
Speaker 7: Just do and when you look at the Impact that
Speaker 7: jokic has on and off the Floor, with denver it is.
Speaker 7: Obviously severe go look at the numbers Of when shay
Speaker 7: is on Versus when shay. Is off it is kind
Speaker 7: of a like it's closer to a coin flip than
Speaker 7: you would think when he's off, the floor and it
Speaker 7: is historically dominant when he's on.
Speaker 2: The, floor, Yeah now i'm.
Speaker 1: With YOU if i had, A vote i'd give It.
Speaker 2: To Shay but i'm not mad at anybody gives It
Speaker 2: to jokic BECAUSE he's i.
Speaker 7: Don't fault you for Voting. FOR jokic I just I
Speaker 7: think I'm leaning shay.
Speaker 2: Right, Now now i'm, with you, All right i'm going
Speaker 2: to put this out into the universe. This, weekend zach
Speaker 2: you will find your. Vibrational match best of luck with
Speaker 2: that and.
Speaker 7: Good chatting also, to you vibrational, match abundance all. That
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Speaker 9: regional qualifiers and then from those, eleven regions there's a
Speaker 9: representative in each of eight groups for boys and girls
Speaker 9: to Come To Augusta national sunday prior To the masters
Speaker 9: and have a national Playoff the. National finals there are
Speaker 9: three Kids from utah who Made the national finals This,
Speaker 9: Weekend Loganwild, blake brown and then Really Interesting nicholas miller
Speaker 9: made the Finals from Utah And nicholas miller is a.
Speaker 9: Big story he is the Grandson Of. Johnny miller he
Speaker 9: Was named he was named by His father Todd For
Speaker 9: jack Nicholas And. Little nicholas he's twelve. Years old he
Speaker 9: qualified For The drive Ship and putt finals on the
Speaker 9: fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen Seventy, five masters The greatest masters,
Speaker 9: ever Played Where jack Nicholas Beat johnny miller by one
Speaker 9: shot to win His. Fifth masters and on the fiftieth
Speaker 9: anniversary of that, Epic Tournament johnny, miller's grandson Who bears,
Speaker 9: jack's name will play In The drive Chip and Putt At.
Speaker 9: Augusta national.
Speaker 2: It's Incredible johnny miller's grandson is also Named After. JACK
Speaker 2: nicholas i want to give this kid a hug, and
Speaker 2: like if he doesn't end up being an, Awesome, GOLFER paul,
Speaker 2: i mean that's a little bit of pressure on this.
Speaker 1: Young, fella yeah he is an.
Speaker 9: Awesome golfer he's GOT, great dna he's got great got
Speaker 9: great naming. IN him, i mean his Name Is, nicholas
Speaker 9: miller and he is living up. To it he's He's
Speaker 9: A Utah Golf Association Age group player Of, the year
Speaker 9: and he is a. Terrific kid he is a. Terrific
Speaker 9: player and this is A name i think we're going
Speaker 9: to hear, more of and it's just going to get
Speaker 9: cooler as it.
Speaker 2: Goes, Along Geez johnny miller's grandson Named After Jack. NICHOLAS
Speaker 2: goodness i know you.
Speaker 9: Just want you just want to stand next to him
Speaker 9: and let some of it bleed off.
Speaker 2: ON you i want to give him a hug and
Speaker 2: say you're going to, be okay no. Matter what such
Speaker 2: a lot. Of pressure, All, right well we'll look at
Speaker 2: To the masters in. A moment but, of COURSE as
Speaker 2: i reference one more, tune off which Is The valero
Speaker 2: texas open DOWN To Tpc, san Antonio their. Oaks COURSE
Speaker 2: and i always like to have you let us know
Speaker 2: the details about what, We're watching so let's start with.
Speaker 2: The track tell US About Tpc.
Speaker 10: San antonio it's one of THE several tpc tracks that
Speaker 10: are owned BY. The Pj torre this one was developed
Speaker 10: BY The pga tour as a tournament. Host facility it
Speaker 10: shares the characteristics, that many, not all but, Certainly most,
Speaker 10: i'll say OF the tpc. Courses have it's got a
Speaker 10: stadium component, To it it's easy for the fans to
Speaker 10: get around and. To watch there are some target elements,
Speaker 10: to it which is another characteristic OF the. Tpc courses
Speaker 10: they tend to be gettable when the conditions, are right
Speaker 10: and the conditions actually are a little tough this week
Speaker 10: Down In, san antonio and you've, got good strong players
Speaker 10: at the top of, the leaderboard you've got a major.
Speaker 9: Winner In, brian harmon but the course isn't proving very
Speaker 9: gettable as you as you go deeper into. The field
Speaker 9: this tournament's place on the calendar means that a lot
Speaker 9: of people on the tour are already paying Attention to
Speaker 9: augusta and they could skip. Over it so this tournament
Speaker 9: does a really. Interesting thing they put together a package
Speaker 9: that is very attractive to the families of, The players
Speaker 9: so a lot of the tour players will go to
Speaker 9: this tournament play in this tournament because it's so family
Speaker 9: friendly and there's so much going on that's good for. The,
Speaker 9: Kids well dad's ound knocking.
Speaker 2: It around so as, Of Now brian harmon is your
Speaker 2: leader by, Two Over, Keith Mitchell, Matt Wallace sam ryder four.
Speaker 2: Strokes back Let's See patrick canley at six, hundred parr
Speaker 2: not A ton? Keggan's there Where is tony's at? Four
Speaker 2: under he had a really good, Round yesterday he's kind of.
Speaker 2: Struggling TODAY so i ask you the same thing every
Speaker 2: time we talk about one of, these tournaments of the
Speaker 2: golfers that are, in contention and what you know about
Speaker 2: them in. The course who do you think has the?
Speaker 2: Best chance give us a few names you think will
Speaker 2: be in the Mix, on sunday and then what do
Speaker 2: you make The way tony's handled himself?
Speaker 7: So, far.
Speaker 9: Well the conversation this week has to Stay With. Brian
Speaker 9: harmon he's finished his round and the wind tends to
Speaker 9: pick up in the Afternoon In, san antonio and so
Speaker 9: he's already got a number on the board and people
Speaker 9: are going to have to go out and chase him
Speaker 9: down with later tea times that's a. Harder lift so
Speaker 9: the conversation Starts With, brian harmon a, proven winner very
Speaker 9: gutsy player who plays, really smart and so the target
Speaker 9: ASPECTS of Tpc san antonio are going to play to.
Speaker 9: HIS advantage.
Speaker 2: I do like The Name.
Speaker 9: Keith mitchell he's, been trending he's been playing, well lately
Speaker 9: and recent form is always one of the, strongest indicators
Speaker 9: And so mitchell is one that you have to pay
Speaker 9: attention to. As well and then, You know i'm always Cheering.
Speaker 9: For tony didn't have his, best today but he's still
Speaker 9: within striking distance and very definitely making, the weekend and
Speaker 9: he could easily put together a couple of good days
Speaker 9: and be right.
Speaker 2: In It max holma is about to miss. Another, cut
Speaker 2: paul and we got news. EARLIER today i Think It's.
Speaker 2: Joe griner max is split with, His Caddy joe GRINER
Speaker 2: and i guess they're buddies.
Speaker 1: From childhood but we keep talking.
Speaker 2: About this max is one of my favorite players to
Speaker 2: watch when, he's right and he has. Just been it's
Speaker 2: a shocking season for one of the best young players
Speaker 2: that we have in. Our country so what based off
Speaker 2: of your knowledge of how these, Things work what's what's
Speaker 2: the hope once you get rid of a caddy you've
Speaker 2: had so much, Success with and have you seen caddy
Speaker 2: changes make stark differences for players.
Speaker 9: Of talent, That, Is, max well you Gotta Fire billy
Speaker 9: martin once you're twice right.
Speaker 7: Or?
Speaker 1: Seven, times, yeah really.
Speaker 9: Whatever, it was now this is this is always a
Speaker 9: part of. The game players look for a change when
Speaker 9: things aren't, going well and, Holy cow max. IS scraping
Speaker 9: i watched him a little bit on the broadcast yesterday
Speaker 9: and he didn't look right in. Any way he didn't
Speaker 9: look like he was, walking right he didn't look comfortable on.
Speaker 9: The green he just didn't look like he. Was right
Speaker 9: and so it doesn't surprise me that he's gonna try
Speaker 9: to shake things, up somehow even if it means firing
Speaker 9: your high. SCHOOL buddy i don't know one word about
Speaker 9: any of the. DYNAMICS there i just know, in general
Speaker 9: players will shake things up when they, need to and
Speaker 9: that's very frequently what? Will happen, But boy max doesn't
Speaker 9: look good.
Speaker 2: Right, now no he's gonna miss. Another cut do You
Speaker 2: Know martin hall they're on the. Golf channel?
Speaker 9: Uh huh have you ever?
Speaker 2: MET him i have not.
Speaker 9: To know i'd, love To though.
Speaker 2: I'VE become i don't know what. IT is i think
Speaker 2: he's just like a. Funny dude so, At, night Paul
Speaker 2: as i've told, You before i'm not an. Awesome sleeper
Speaker 2: i'm working, on it BUT if i can't, Fall asleep
Speaker 2: i'll fire up A Little, martin hall little golf pass
Speaker 2: On The, Golf channel i'll watch one of his. Comprehensive
Speaker 2: lessons but THE reason i bring it up is, LAST
Speaker 2: night i don't KNOW that i had watched the second
Speaker 2: part Of The tiger woods documentary that's based Off The.
Speaker 1: Tiger, woods book AND so i learned.
Speaker 2: Last night AND if i, Knew this i'd forgotten the
Speaker 2: split that HAPPENED because i asked You about max's Caddy
Speaker 2: between Tiger and Stevie, After tiger tiger was hurt and
Speaker 2: he was not going to play IN The. Us, open
Speaker 2: So as TeV tells, the STORY and i Haven't heard
Speaker 2: tiger's side, of this He asked tiger for permission to
Speaker 2: Caddy For, adam scott His, fellow auzye and then after
Speaker 2: He Committed, Adam scott tiger decided to play IN The,
Speaker 2: us open and then he Fired.
Speaker 1: Fired stevie is that how that? Went down with your memory?
Speaker 7: Of?
Speaker 9: That, well, YEAH absolutely, I remember and that's one of.
Speaker 9: The versions that's one of the stories. YOU hear i
Speaker 9: have no reason to, question it but we have to
Speaker 9: acknowledge that there aren't all versions out there in. The
Speaker 9: public one Thing that i've seen when these things go
Speaker 9: on is that there's very frequently a little more to
Speaker 9: the story than we have the ability. To know and
Speaker 9: in a Situation like stevie Had, with tiger they were
Speaker 9: a team for some of the greatest golf ever to be,
Speaker 9: played ever and that led to a prominence and a
Speaker 9: Celebrity for steve that caddies simply never. Had had there
Speaker 9: had been notable, caddies before certainly some of the Caddies,
Speaker 9: at Augusta Certainly angelo i'm blanking on his last Name,
Speaker 9: With Nicholas andy Martinez, with, Miller There bruce Edwards. With
Speaker 9: watson there had been. Prominent Caddies but stevie achieved something
Speaker 9: that never had been. Done BEFORE and i always looked
Speaker 9: at that and Thought that tiger was not in love
Speaker 9: with the fact that his caddy was getting ATTENTION to
Speaker 9: i don't KNOW that i could be, very wrong but
Speaker 9: that's what it looked like. To me and so when
Speaker 9: the opportunity, PRESENTED itself I think tiger went ahead and made.
Speaker 2: A move, All, right paul before we'll end With some.
Speaker 2: Augusta thoughts but before we, DO that i know this
Speaker 2: isn't your, favorite topic but the fact of the, matter
Speaker 2: is like the live golf ratings continue to. Be horrific
Speaker 2: it's like forty, thousand people which puts it among the
Speaker 2: lowest rated shows in all of. Cable television and the
Speaker 2: story today is THAT The pga tour has rejected That
Speaker 2: The Public investment fund their recent offer to invest one
Speaker 2: point five billion into whatever that. Partnership IS and i
Speaker 2: just want your thoughts on this continued drama and, then
Speaker 2: ultimately when the.
Speaker 1: Dust settles what is your hope about how this?
Speaker 9: Partnership, Looks, Oh mercy i'm not even sure what to hope,
Speaker 9: for now other than to just SAY that i want
Speaker 9: so much to see the greatest players play against each
Speaker 9: other in a true tournament of seventy two holes with
Speaker 9: a Cut With john rahm was playing last year in the,
Speaker 9: live Finals and ron was. Playing well he had like
Speaker 9: thirty thirty five thousand eyeballs around the world. On him
Speaker 9: and this is one of the greatest players of, our
Speaker 9: time and just to be that invisible is so sad
Speaker 9: and just so disappointing that because more people like orders,
Speaker 9: of magnitude more people need to see this great, player
Speaker 9: play and we need to see him play against other.
Speaker 9: Great players and if there's one Thing that live has
Speaker 9: proven itself to be over its, four years so that it's,
Speaker 9: nearly invisible just they players go there and just aren't
Speaker 9: hurt from. Very, much again one possible exception Would Be
Speaker 9: day chambeau because of his social, media work particularly, on
Speaker 9: YouTube but that's Not. On live That's Something dave schambau has.
Speaker 9: DONE himself i have thought from the beginning that this
Speaker 9: would follow the series of events that held true with
Speaker 9: every other sport that's been in this situation or something,
Speaker 9: like it and ultimately that is A MERGER, NBA Aba
Speaker 9: nflabl back in the days of the early, major leagues
Speaker 9: always it ends up being. A merger i hope that
Speaker 9: there's something that can come. OF that i hope that
Speaker 9: it brings the greatest players back together to play against
Speaker 9: each other in a seventy two hole tournament with.
Speaker 2: A Cat The High Fruit toast adventures Of An annoying
Speaker 2: orange have more Viewers than. Live golf it's a it's
Speaker 2: a cartoon about an orange that teaches. Kids lessons i'm
Speaker 2: looking this up in. Real time so do you think
Speaker 2: one more? Thing here do you think this is going
Speaker 2: to be a scenario where live carries on IN The
Speaker 2: pga tour carries on and players have the ability to
Speaker 2: play whatever they would like to play in kind of
Speaker 2: LIKE The Dp world, tour whatever AND The. Pga tour
Speaker 2: do you anticipate something?
Speaker 7: Like that.
Speaker 9: The players themselves want to play against, The best these
Speaker 9: Top players i'm talking about Certainly, Wrong keepka Deve, s Chambeau,
Speaker 9: CAM smith. Dj getting he's over the crest of the
Speaker 9: hill in, his career but he still packs a lot.
Speaker 9: Of firepower they want to play against, the best and
Speaker 9: the best just want to play. AGAINST them i think
Speaker 9: that that pressure from the very best players in the
Speaker 9: world will ultimately bring. Them together what it looks like
Speaker 9: is very hard to discern because of the great, black
Speaker 9: hole unknowable variable of what is the business model from
Speaker 9: piff this bottomless pit. Of money what do they want
Speaker 9: to get out?
Speaker 5: Of it and?
Speaker 9: Nobody knows and so that means that you can't apply
Speaker 9: regular modes of analysis and regular business since to what's.
Speaker 9: Going on but ONE thing i do know for sure
Speaker 9: is that the greatest players want to play with and
Speaker 9: against the.
Speaker 2: Greatest players speaking of the, greatest players the majority, of
Speaker 2: them if not close to all, of them will Be
Speaker 2: At augusta national. Next week let's Start with tony's chances
Speaker 2: based off of your knowledge as a man who Has
Speaker 2: played augusta and knows the Game of, tony five How
Speaker 2: does tony's game match up with this course and what
Speaker 2: are the Chances that i'll, just Say, come sunday he's
Speaker 2: got something to say.
Speaker 7: About this he very.
Speaker 9: Well could tony's game matches this course, exceptionally well and
Speaker 9: his record here. Proves it he's got a couple of top.
Speaker 9: Ten finishes remember twenty Nineteen when tiger won his fifth
Speaker 9: who was in the final Group of tiger that Would be? Tony, final, yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah exactly And so tony has done very Well. At
Speaker 9: augusta tony authored one of the greatest sports comeback performances
Speaker 9: ever in. Any sport this is up there in the
Speaker 9: Conversation With kerry scruggs doing the vault In the olympics
Speaker 9: on a. Broken leg tony went out after obliterating his
Speaker 9: ankle in the running down the hill in the par Three,
Speaker 9: on wednesday he went out and HE shot us sixty
Speaker 9: five and then made the cut and then finished in
Speaker 9: the top ten on one foot In the masters. That
Speaker 9: week it was unbelievable what he was able. To do
Speaker 9: he's got a very strong track Record. At augusta he
Speaker 9: knows his game, fits Here and i've talked with him,
Speaker 9: about this and he thinks that when he gets a
Speaker 9: major that it makes sense to him that it Happens
Speaker 9: that augusta could very well be.
Speaker 2: This week one follow Up, about tony what will you
Speaker 2: be looking for? Round one indicate he's in a good space,
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 9: Hitting the greens in the right spot to be able
Speaker 9: to put offensively instead. Of defensively you can get a
Speaker 9: green in Regulation at augusta and still be in very
Speaker 9: much in defensive mode if you're on the wrong part
Speaker 9: of the green for that a's. Pin Placement if tony
Speaker 9: is putting his second Shot and augusta is a second,
Speaker 9: shot course if he can be putting his second shot
Speaker 9: in position to put offensively, instead defensively he'll be in
Speaker 9: the Mix. On sunday, All, Right.
Speaker 2: PAUL before i say, you lose there are fourteen golfers
Speaker 2: that have odds that are plus three thousand.
Speaker 1: Or, less Okay so i'm going to read you.
Speaker 2: THE list i want you to give me your thoughts on,
Speaker 2: the favorites and then give me a name or two
Speaker 2: that's outside of the favorite cut line that you think. Will,
Speaker 2: compete so of course you're. No surprise at, the Top It's,
Speaker 2: Scottie Scheffler it's. Rory McElroy It's, Calamore Kawa It's, John
Speaker 2: Rahm It's. Ludvig Odberg it's Bryston. D Chambeau It's, Xander
Speaker 2: schoffley It's Jt It's, Adeki Matsuwama It's, Joaquin Neeman It's,
Speaker 2: Patrick Canley, Victor Hovlin, Brooks Kepkin. Jordan spieth so those are, your.
Speaker 2: Favorites okay so out of, that group who do? You
Speaker 2: like and then maybe a couple of names kind off
Speaker 2: the radar to watch.
Speaker 9: Out for my heart out of that group not only
Speaker 9: likes but Pleads for. RORY McElroy i want To see
Speaker 9: rory complete The Career, grand slam and he is in
Speaker 9: a better place now statistically than he has been in
Speaker 9: a long. Long time going into augusta plus he's, been
Speaker 9: winning and again recent form is one of the top
Speaker 9: indicators of somebody who has a chance. TO win i
Speaker 9: DO like jt what he's. Doing, lately, Now look scotty
Speaker 9: is an obvious choice for what he's Done at augusta
Speaker 9: the last. Three years the problem is recently he hasn't Been. Quite,
Speaker 9: scotty now maybe he finds it this Week. At augusta
Speaker 9: he's very clearly comfortable on this, golf course but, so
Speaker 9: hard so hard, to repeat and so Even For, scotti
Speaker 9: scheffler he just hasn't indicated this year that his game
Speaker 9: is ready to Repeat. At AUGUSTA so i would Look at.
Speaker 9: RORY McElroy i would LOOK. At jt we've talked about.
Speaker 9: Him recently his ability to go low is showing him showing.
Speaker 9: Itself again And, boy hattie that is a remarkable skill that.
Speaker 9: He has and if that comes with, him today, this
Speaker 9: week next Week, to augusta look out. For HIM the
Speaker 9: I Like daniel. Berger's Game daniel berger has to answer
Speaker 9: the second part of. Your question he has a really
Speaker 9: strong second shot game and he has been trending. Well
Speaker 9: lately plus. He's healthy he hasn't been healthy in quite.
Speaker 9: A while so he's one to kind of keep the
Speaker 9: look out of the side of your Vision For. Daniel berger,
Speaker 9: all right.
Speaker 2: Good stuff what's Coming? Up paul on the, program tomorrow
Speaker 2: we're going to be all.
Speaker 9: About the seventy fifth the fiftieth anniversary of the Seventy.
Speaker 9: Five masters we're going To Have Guy Yoakum Utah golf
Speaker 9: Hall of famer and the golf digest legend who has
Speaker 9: written extensively about the Seventy. Five masters he'll be on.
Speaker 9: The show we're going to be talking with and then
Speaker 9: we're going to be doing a lot With The drive
Speaker 9: Chip and pett and these three Very cool utah kids
Speaker 9: who are In The drive Chip, and pett including Of Course.
Speaker 2: Nicholas miller It's Like Michael jordan's Sunbee. Named lebron it's Like. Wild, Man, Okay,
Speaker 2: paul no that's a. Great story thank you for, the,
Speaker 2: Time sir. Travel, Safe, Okay thanks we'll, see, You Sir
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Speaker 2: this friday afternoon to talk a little pro football thor how, you, doing?
Speaker 9: Man great how?
Speaker 2: You doing, I'm well. I'M well i appreciate. The time
Speaker 2: so this is like your time, of, year right this
Speaker 2: is when you really kind of. Dig in what's the
Speaker 2: past couple of weeks been like?
Speaker 7: For you.
Speaker 5: We will we will Sleep.
Speaker 8: In may but it's, you know it's always interest in
Speaker 8: getting especially you get deeper into to some of these
Speaker 8: profiles and you, started like why isn't this guy talked
Speaker 8: about more or or, Vice versa like this dude is way,
Speaker 8: over heights and, you know just developing your own opinions
Speaker 8: about some of. These guys it's a great time of.
Speaker 2: THE year i want to ask you about a, Local Kid,
Speaker 2: jackson dart who played his high school back high school
Speaker 2: football out this way and LANDED at usc of, course
Speaker 2: transferred and, you know it's it's interesting to hear the
Speaker 2: takes on him because it seems like you as ten,
Speaker 2: different people you get ten. Different takes where do you
Speaker 2: have him ranked and where do you think ultimately the
Speaker 2: fans out this way that Will follow jackson dark and
Speaker 2: expect him.
Speaker 8: TO go i HAVE him, qb THREE and i think,
Speaker 8: you know it's either going to be Late on thursday
Speaker 8: night or it's going to be pretty quick On on.
Speaker 8: Friday night, YOU know i see you talking late, first
Speaker 8: round early, second round the thing of the top. Ten
Speaker 8: hype i'm not there. With it it only takes. One
Speaker 8: though you know there there's some thought that he would
Speaker 8: be a good fit in in that, new System The
Speaker 8: kellen morris Installing In. New orleans there might be some.
Speaker 8: Interest there i'll believe IT when i see it if
Speaker 8: he's a top. Ten pick but, either way, you know, for,
Speaker 8: me qualitatively, late first early.
Speaker 2: Second shouldar sanders through today it is, pro day, of
Speaker 2: course we ARE formally Pac Twelve colorado Buddies now Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: Colorado buddies so we've Seen shad or here quite. A
Speaker 2: bit where do you think? He goes where do you
Speaker 2: analyze him in? This class and what do you think
Speaker 2: his his?
Speaker 8: Floor, Is shudear, you know it's sort of, the opposite,
Speaker 8: feels like at least the, public narrative, you know as
Speaker 8: far as the directions of it Against A. Jackson dart but,
Speaker 8: you know, for ME should i will Believe that shadier
Speaker 8: falls out of the top TEN when i. SEE it
Speaker 8: i don't think that's going. TO happen i don't think
Speaker 8: he's going.
Speaker 5: To fall out of the.
Speaker 8: Top five but, you know you have this crappy quarterback
Speaker 8: class and the the, Evaluation, issue dear you put it
Speaker 8: up against all these, other guys it's. JUST cleaner, i
Speaker 8: mean it's just like people that watch him and. EVALUATE
Speaker 8: him i feel like the people that get lost in
Speaker 8: the weeds. And stuff so people that bring in their
Speaker 8: preconceived notions About this andrews family and that sort of
Speaker 8: stuff and the perception. Of it but if you can
Speaker 8: remove yourself from that and just watch the games in
Speaker 8: a vacuum and then just look at the data against the.
Speaker 8: Other dudes he was the most impressive quarterback in this
Speaker 8: class over. His career it's not me going out on.
Speaker 5: The lambits it's.
Speaker 8: Literally just THE fact i, you know he started all.
Speaker 8: Four years his teams are. Always good, You Know jackson
Speaker 8: state that turn that thing around. Real quick and then, You,
Speaker 8: know colorado you take over one of the five or
Speaker 8: SIX worst, fbs programs not one of the five or
Speaker 8: six worst. Powerful ones, you know that team was terrible
Speaker 8: when they got to that one and, eleven team and you.
Speaker 8: Know that you know they also. Nippick him, it's, like
Speaker 8: oh he had good receivers and this sort of. Gimmicky
Speaker 8: thing he played behind terrible offensive Lines at colorado in
Speaker 8: an offensive scheme where the defense knew they weren't going,
Speaker 8: to run so you had the imposing defensive line who
Speaker 8: they could pin their ears back the entire game and
Speaker 8: and just, you know and the penetration you would see
Speaker 8: on his film, right away he figured out ways to work.
Speaker 8: AROUND that i like his functional mobility in.
Speaker 5: The pocket.
Speaker 8: You know another one of the crazy criticisms of him
Speaker 8: where it's like, all, right, guys stop was when people, were,
Speaker 8: like oh he's not a. Good athlete, it's, like yeah
Speaker 8: the son of one of the greatest athletes in the
Speaker 8: history OF the nfl is not a, good, Athlete okay
Speaker 8: like because he doesn't run out of, the pocket, you
Speaker 8: know like a couple of, you know. He doesn't he
Speaker 8: doesn't break containment then he's. Running downfield and the reason
Speaker 8: why is he he uses athleticism to make people miss
Speaker 8: in the pot when he, has to which he unfortunately
Speaker 8: did more than Most. At colorado he's really really good.
Speaker 8: At that and when he is scrambling he gets up
Speaker 8: close to the line, of scrimmage you're starting to run out.
Speaker 8: Of time he has a very cool quirk where he
Speaker 8: will stop in front of that line of scrimmage and
Speaker 8: he'll just plan himself there and, wait for, you know
Speaker 8: for a guy to get open if he hasn't seen.
Speaker 8: One yet he does a really good job of keeping
Speaker 8: his eyes up when he's, moving around but when he
Speaker 8: is rushing towards the line, of scrimmage when he, is
Speaker 8: scrambling you will see, the defenders, you know just it's
Speaker 8: a natural impulse to get, sucked downhill right because you
Speaker 8: know the games that they've played in, the past you
Speaker 8: always see the quarterback run pass line.
Speaker 5: Of scrimmage he.
Speaker 8: Uses that inclination against. Defensive, backs right he will stop
Speaker 8: on a dime there, waight way someone's gonna get, sucked
Speaker 8: down and now he has an.
Speaker 5: OPEN receiver i really like.
Speaker 7: HIS game i like his.
Speaker 8: POCKET presence i don't understand why he gets criticized for,
Speaker 8: that too and the elite thing. About him, of course
Speaker 8: it's accuracy. And placement you can put that. Up there
Speaker 8: you look at the last five. Quarterback classes there's not
Speaker 8: a lot of guys that can Compete With shadeer sanders
Speaker 8: in those. Two categories, so big big fan of.
Speaker 2: His game so tell me where you think. He lands
Speaker 2: And again i'll, just reiterate where do you think Is?
Speaker 2: Flora is, And look I'm a, jets, Fan okay AND
Speaker 2: so i wouldn't Mind because i'm. WITH you i wouldn't
Speaker 2: mind if he fell. TO seven i don't know if that's.
Speaker 1: A chance but what do? You think where do you think?
Speaker 1: He lands and what do you what do you think Is?
Speaker 2: FLORA is i know for A fact cleveland.
Speaker 8: Likes him, You know i'm not saying he's going to,
Speaker 8: go Too because cleveland also very much likes His Teammate. Travis,
Speaker 8: hunter now, YOU know i think that's a discussion. Right
Speaker 8: Now the colorado prote that you were, alluding to they had,
Speaker 8: a whole huge contingent From The cleveland browns organization that was,
Speaker 8: out there that included, their owner, you know in every
Speaker 8: major person in. That organization, of course you get to Take,
Speaker 8: in travis but, you know Also evaluate shadeer there the
Speaker 8: very close eyes, on Him and shadeer is would be
Speaker 8: a really good Fit for stefanski's offense. As well coming
Speaker 8: out OF The, NFL combine i talked TO an nfl
Speaker 8: source that, told me do not discount the Possibility that
Speaker 8: cleveland walks away from this draft With Both travis Hunter And.
Speaker 8: Shadeer sanders and at, THE time i, was like there's,
Speaker 8: no way and he's he was telling Me the shadeer.
Speaker 8: Sliding possibility in, that scenario You Pop travis hunter at.
Speaker 8: Number two let's say, That that let's Say that i'm
Speaker 8: wrong and he gets to, you know fourteen fifteen somewhere.
Speaker 8: Like that cleveland has all the draft equity in the
Speaker 8: world in. THIS class i just look at all the picks, They.
Speaker 5: Have they could easily get up to.
Speaker 8: Fifteen sixteen if. That happened So that's i'm going to
Speaker 8: call that. One. Out cleveland there's a shot still they
Speaker 8: take them at two, for sure but, if not And
Speaker 8: if i'm wrong about the other thing about, Him sliding
Speaker 8: cleveland's in play for.
Speaker 2: That too So everything i've read the word all seed
Speaker 2: to you because you're, the expert Is that tennessee has done.
Speaker 2: Their calculation they've landed on cam warded one is are
Speaker 2: you in line with? That storyline you think that's how
Speaker 2: this is going to? Go down and what do you
Speaker 2: think if that's.
Speaker 8: Their choice they absolutely want us to, believe that which
Speaker 8: might mean that it's, the truth and might mean that
Speaker 8: that it's not. The truth we have seen some very
Speaker 8: clever smoke screens in. The past ONE that i could,
Speaker 8: evoked that, you know for, This One san francisco wanted everyone,
Speaker 8: to know was it six seven years ago that they
Speaker 8: were going To Take mac jones at number three or
Speaker 8: number you know where they had two or three afriget
Speaker 8: but they ended Up Taking trey lance with it. Was
Speaker 8: three but, you know they were putting it, out there
Speaker 8: it's Gonna, Be mac it's Gonna. Be mac it wasn't
Speaker 8: going To. Be mac it was like, you know doubt
Speaker 8: us try to tell us who you're going to pick
Speaker 8: in advance, too, Much Right so tennessee is giving, us
Speaker 8: absolutely they are giving us all the indications in the
Speaker 8: world that they will Take. Cam morton that only means
Speaker 8: one of. Two, things unfortunately we can't say. In advance
Speaker 8: they they want us to believe something and we'll see
Speaker 8: if they end up falling through.
Speaker 2: With it, and yes As a, JETS fan i will
Speaker 2: selfishly kick the tires with an EXPERT as i do
Speaker 2: every time we talked, Pro football what what do my?
Speaker 2: Guys DO like, I said i would not mind Them
Speaker 2: grabbing shador if he's there, At seven but what do
Speaker 2: you think happens With the jets?
Speaker 8: At seven the good and the bad thing is is
Speaker 8: that there's enough holes there where you do not have
Speaker 8: to get myopic with the, pick right like the board
Speaker 8: is sort of open. To you will they will they
Speaker 8: try to get like a, you know the singular offensive
Speaker 8: dude In In, tyler warren the guy that the simply a, ball,
Speaker 8: mover right the offensive chess piece sort of.
Speaker 5: A dude i think that's.
Speaker 8: One, possibility obviously there's needs on defense there. As well
Speaker 8: you know you can get someone to play Next to
Speaker 8: Quinnon Uh kin. Law left, you know WHETHER, it's idl
Speaker 8: whether it's. Offensive tackle, you know you could use someone
Speaker 8: Across from bashanu and try to take care of that
Speaker 8: for the. Next decade, receiver obviously you know you know the.
Speaker 8: STUFF there i, to me it's it's somewhere. IN there
Speaker 8: i would be surprised if it was just because of
Speaker 8: the the outlay They gave fields over a multi, year
Speaker 8: DEAL though i realized it was only two years and
Speaker 8: it's not, crazy money so, you know technically you haven't crossed.
Speaker 8: It up but with with the all the other, HOLES
Speaker 8: there i would ASSUME and i would expect for them
Speaker 8: to go a non. Quarterback position do.
Speaker 2: You think there's ANY chance i was reading a piece
Speaker 2: In the, athletic today somebody covering their draft, that believes
Speaker 2: like you just Alluded, to tennessee this is a smoke
Speaker 2: screen and they're willing to move. That pick and, you
Speaker 2: know Like, The jets tennessee has a lot. Of holes
Speaker 2: do you think there's any chance they move off of
Speaker 2: one for more.
Speaker 8: Valuable, Pieces well tennessee for sure if they can get,
Speaker 8: that offer and this would also, you know the theory
Speaker 8: of they're not, decided yet but they want us to
Speaker 8: believe that. They are this is, you know if that scenario,
Speaker 8: was true that would be something that you would do
Speaker 8: if you want to listen, to offers, right, like oh
Speaker 8: we found our guy and we're, you know Blobbody blade
Speaker 8: and then you're hoping that a team that's obsessed with
Speaker 8: cam wore, donn is, you know gonna make you. An
Speaker 8: offer we'll have to see, on that, but Yeah if
Speaker 8: tennessee gets a legitimate trade offer where they feel they're,
Speaker 8: getting valued they're going to make, that Trade, right like,
Speaker 8: YOU know i just. Think that as far As the jets,
Speaker 8: AT seven i think they're an interesting trade down possibility
Speaker 8: because of all those. Different holes, and then of course
Speaker 8: you have new decision makers that are sitting in.
Speaker 5: Those.
Speaker 8: Seats now you brought a lot of new guys into the.
Speaker 8: Front office want to put your your mark. On Things
Speaker 8: And rick spielman one of the guys near and dear to,
Speaker 8: my heart he used to work a mile away From
Speaker 8: where i'm sitting. Right now that dude loves to trade
Speaker 8: down and get. Extra pegs we make fun of him
Speaker 8: here because every single year seemed like he had three
Speaker 8: or four seventh round picks that he had accumulated. Through
Speaker 8: it but there are teams that are gonna be looking to,
Speaker 8: move ON and i think some teams that would. Surprise
Speaker 8: people the forty nine ers are a team to watch
Speaker 8: out for to make a big move up to board
Speaker 8: in round one because they have an enormous amount of.
Speaker 8: Draft equity they have made all these changes to their offensive,
Speaker 8: skill guys and they want to restock that there's not.
Speaker 8: A receiver i don't think that they would. Be targeting
Speaker 8: i've been told to watch out for them moving Up For,
Speaker 8: tyler warren so that that's and even Potent daylight Ash and,
Speaker 8: gentz TOO and i know that this would, you know
Speaker 8: blow peace. Those minds it's like you Already got. Christian
Speaker 8: McCaffrey but they don't play football like the. Other, teams
Speaker 8: dude they played positionless football.
Speaker 2: On.
Speaker 8: Offense right it's like every time they go back to,
Speaker 8: the huddle it's like you shuffle the deck as far
Speaker 8: as the next play where everyone's going to. Line, UP
Speaker 8: like i just enjoy watching them because it's, always, like
Speaker 8: well where's, you know when deebo, is On where's debo
Speaker 8: going to be? This play where's where's are you going?
Speaker 7: To?
Speaker 8: Be kiddle they'd line up all over. The place McCaffrey
Speaker 8: could be, out wide he could be in, the slot
Speaker 8: he could Be the they move, guys everywhere and and
Speaker 8: so it opens up the potential possibilit because BECAUSE when
Speaker 8: i was, TOLD that i, was like there's no way
Speaker 8: they got McCaffrey's. Positionless football you could play those two.
Speaker 8: Guys together, so, like uh, you know but but you
Speaker 8: know a team to watch out for potentially Maybe the
Speaker 8: jets would, you know could potentially be involved in that
Speaker 8: if a Guy Like tyler warren gets to.
Speaker 2: THEIR pick i want To ask thor because you know
Speaker 2: it may be an, easy answer maybe Just Be. Travis
Speaker 2: hunter but who do you think is the best prospect
Speaker 2: in this draft regardless? Of position IF an nfl team
Speaker 2: called you and said best player regardless of where, he
Speaker 2: plays who would you say?
Speaker 7: And why?
Speaker 8: For me, for sure It Is travis hunter because because
Speaker 8: of that two, Position Things, travis hunter he'd be if
Speaker 8: he was just, a cornerback BE my cb one in.
Speaker 5: This class if he was just a.
Speaker 8: Wide receiver he'd be wide receiver one with the bull in.
Speaker 8: This class and the fact that you get both those
Speaker 8: things in, one package you can start to make an
Speaker 8: argument qualitatively for his value against, a quarterback which you
Speaker 8: know is sort. Of unique if you check both those
Speaker 8: boxes on, your team, you know you can start making
Speaker 8: that that. Qualitative argument he's different that that. Dude's different
Speaker 8: my comp. For him, You know i'm the guy that
Speaker 8: has a five hundred player big board of five hundred.
Speaker 8: PLAYER contact i just. LOVE comps i had to come
Speaker 8: from To Show. Heyo Tani there there wasn't another football
Speaker 8: PLAYER that i felt comfortable comping. Him to that's that
Speaker 8: was THE closest i could get as far as encapsulating
Speaker 8: my Thoughts On travis Hunter And travis hunter wants to
Speaker 8: Be Show. Heyo tani, you KNOW like i was laughing earlier.
Speaker 8: This process people would ask him to, be like, all
Speaker 8: right what position is he actually going to play in THE.
Speaker 8: N bo it's like, Both Ways and i'd, be, like,
Speaker 8: no no that what?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 8: Position actually, he's, like no, Both ways like he he
Speaker 8: wants to be to Show hey, otani guy he is
Speaker 8: not gonna Want to like if a team, Was, like
Speaker 8: travis we only want you on one side of, the
Speaker 8: ball he'd BE like i don't want to play. For
Speaker 8: YOU so i mean that that's what you're, gonna get
Speaker 8: and for sure It Be.
Speaker 2: Travis hunter so is your understanding the teams that he's
Speaker 2: speaking with are completely open to allowing him to play both, Positions.
Speaker 8: One yeah the interested. Parties, there yeah you're going to
Speaker 8: be playing him both ways. Right away you wouldn't draft
Speaker 8: him otherwise because you're gonna have a ticked off employee
Speaker 8: on your hand who's one of your your organization's most
Speaker 8: important people right from.
Speaker 5: The, get, so yeah that's that's what's.
Speaker 8: Being discussed the interesting thing will be after, the draft
Speaker 8: whatever team that ends, up being, you know Be, at
Speaker 8: cleveland be At. The, giants uh could it Be? The
Speaker 8: patriots could he get? Down before the interesting thing will
Speaker 8: be the discussions inside, that building which the coaching staff
Speaker 8: almost might get locked out. Of these it's more gonna
Speaker 8: be between your analytics, the department and your your medical
Speaker 8: team of trying to trying to look into the data
Speaker 8: and figure out a guy with, that frame what what
Speaker 8: is the amount of snaps that the human body at
Speaker 8: that size could take before we will elevate his? Injury
Speaker 8: risk right? Like it so we're going to play him
Speaker 8: eighty five percent of the snaps, you know defense as.
Speaker 8: A rookie how many? Additional ones what what percentage of
Speaker 8: the snapshare on offense can we do before it's dereliction
Speaker 8: of duties right where it's it is so many snaps
Speaker 8: you can almost guarantee that he will suffer a. SIGNIFICANT
Speaker 8: injury i think it's going to be, you know you're
Speaker 8: going to be between eighty to eighty five percent of
Speaker 8: the snaps on defense as, a ROOKIE and i think
Speaker 8: it's going to come out around forty to forty five
Speaker 8: on offense as. A ROOKIE and i think, those snaps
Speaker 8: you're going to Have A travis. Hunter playbook you are
Speaker 8: going to be looking To Get travis hunter. The ball
Speaker 8: he is not going to be out there to run
Speaker 8: block and then they're not going to put him out
Speaker 8: there on that early. DOWNS either i don't think that's
Speaker 8: one way that you can. Save him, but yeah crazy
Speaker 8: value player at the. Next level THORA.
Speaker 2: Before i say. You lose, you know typically we Have
Speaker 2: more utah football players involved in the draft process that
Speaker 2: have a chance to be, you know one of the,
Speaker 2: you know maybe a first. Round guy we don't have many,
Speaker 2: this Year but i'm gonna ask You About, brant keithy
Speaker 2: who was really the better pro prospect Prior To dalton
Speaker 2: king kid landing on campus and then kind of usurping
Speaker 2: that Role after brant went down and he had another
Speaker 2: injury a. Year Ago and i'm sure at some point
Speaker 2: throughout your analysis you've landed on him because when he
Speaker 2: was Healthy And cameron rising was under Center, for utah
Speaker 2: he just looked. The part he had. The productivity he's a.
Speaker 2: Great kid he's been a friend of the station for a.
Speaker 2: Long TIME and i see him listed as the seventh rated,
Speaker 2: you know tight end slash h back on one of,
Speaker 2: these lists and it's gonna be tough just because of.
Speaker 2: The health but what do you make of this Process For?
Speaker 2: Bran keithy and do you think at some point maybe
Speaker 2: he will have a PRO football.
Speaker 5: I hope he.
Speaker 8: Does that, YOU know i had never met Him, Before
Speaker 8: indianapolis but the thing you're saying about him being a,
Speaker 8: good kid you could.
Speaker 5: Tell that at his.
Speaker 8: Podium session, You, know uh we asked him A. COUPLE
Speaker 8: yeah i don't want to say like, hard questions but
Speaker 8: like non softball questions you know about, you know you're
Speaker 8: on the, older side and you know what your injury.
Speaker 8: History is, you know the WAY the nfl will. View that,
Speaker 8: you know you're not an, inline guy, you know and
Speaker 8: and and like that's what, you know basically make. The case,
Speaker 8: you know your skill set, as is, you know and stuff,
Speaker 8: like that and super super, duper respectful, you know with
Speaker 8: with with the answers and thoughtful and the way that
Speaker 8: that he saw. That stuff but he knows he's facing
Speaker 8: a bit of an uphill. Climb here, BUT yeah i
Speaker 8: mean that that's a guy who you know that all
Speaker 8: the adversity. HE'S overcome i think he's ready for that
Speaker 8: might come, for him. YOU know i think you guys
Speaker 8: will will, you know at least it's around the area of,
Speaker 8: the country and. It's recently There's Remember dallan holker from the, Last,
Speaker 8: sure yeah, you know THE guy i called The Incredib.
Speaker 8: Doble hulker there's there's a lot of similarities there in
Speaker 8: terms of. Their frames they both have the long arms
Speaker 8: that they had the same THING that i liked, about
Speaker 8: them which is their, really crafty clever, route, runners right
Speaker 8: and so they managed to make the little bit of
Speaker 8: separation that they need short and. Intermediate area it's not
Speaker 8: guys that you're going to send down, the field but
Speaker 8: they're guys that potentially can be used to pay per
Speaker 8: cut defenses at the. Next level and can brand stay
Speaker 8: healthy enough?
Speaker 9: For that?
Speaker 8: Right like and he can overcome the measurables because of.
Speaker 8: That craftiness because he has the longer arms than you
Speaker 8: would expect from, the frame it gives him a bigger
Speaker 8: catch radius than defenders. Are expecting explaining explain some of.
Speaker 8: That production but can he stay healthy enough TO show
Speaker 8: nfl teams that route running machination and then the reliability
Speaker 8: when that balls on? THE doorstep i can be that
Speaker 8: paper cut guy.
Speaker 5: For you that's what we're.
Speaker 8: Hoping for hopefully his body doesn't portray.
Speaker 2: Him or where can our football? Fans go find?
Speaker 5: Your?
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Speaker 2: Door ku, thanks man appreciate.
Speaker 9: THE time i know.
Speaker 2: You're busy we'll set, You.
Speaker 8: Loose okay always good talking to, you guys?
Speaker 2: All right STORNEISTROM little nfl draft less than three. WEEKS
Speaker 2: away i always appreciate.
Speaker 6: His time we're back on the drive With ESPN's dave
Speaker 6: mcminnimon joining us FOR Today's Nba.
Speaker 2: Daily, assist well latch you in at the Five o'clock
Speaker 2: out of, the program about thirty minutes from, Right now
Speaker 2: University of utah men's. Basketball program grab a RECRUIT or
Speaker 2: i should say transfer today out of the. Transfer portal
Speaker 2: puzzle piece number two in PLACE. For aj but we'll
Speaker 2: do A little nba now with one of, Our favorites.
Speaker 2: Dave mcminnimon he's. Very famous he's a celebrity reporter On a. Friday, Afternoon,
Speaker 2: hello david how?
Speaker 7: ARE you i.
Speaker 11: AM well i reject your INTRODUCTION because i make it about.
Speaker 5: The STORY the.
Speaker 11: Nba is, famous basketball, the players, the coaches. THE executive
Speaker 11: i am but a vessel to convey their stories to
Speaker 11: our listeners, and readers a CONDUIT of.
Speaker 2: Nba stories dave McManamon. JOINS us, I, Apologize, dave well
Speaker 2: you're kind of a big deal and we feel honored
Speaker 2: that you would join us every time you have a
Speaker 2: little bit. Of time let me start right here as
Speaker 2: we stretch a little bit to try to make something.
Speaker 2: Local interesting you are, a, voter right you vote for the, postseason, Awards,
Speaker 2: correct yeah, that's right. All RIGHT so i would imagine
Speaker 2: you were one of a number of people that received
Speaker 2: a package in the Mail from jazz pr To Consider
Speaker 2: isaiah Callier For. All rookie now in a, Normal year
Speaker 2: i'm not sure that he would be in consideration the.
Speaker 2: ROOKIE class, I mean i Love This stefon. CASTLE kid
Speaker 2: i was hoping he fell To the jazz. Quite Frankly,
Speaker 2: but isaiah ever since he was given the starting Nod,
Speaker 2: from will has been one of the real. Bright spots
Speaker 2: he's got to get that jumper. Dialed in but he
Speaker 2: is thirty two percent from three Since The all, star
Speaker 2: break which, isn't great but it's better than, twenty three
Speaker 2: which is he was. Prior to do you think our
Speaker 2: guy here on, The ground Isaiah call you has a
Speaker 2: shot to make one of?
Speaker 7: These?
Speaker 2: TEAMS yeah.
Speaker 11: I do I mean i casually keep track Of the
Speaker 11: rookie Of the year late race WITH the Nba Dot Com.
Speaker 11: Rookie ladder they weekly have their top ten guys. IN
Speaker 11: contention i think they have him at eight. Right now and,
Speaker 11: you know if you're naming, two teams that kind of
Speaker 11: puts him right. IN there i think some. Of it,
Speaker 11: of course we have to acknowledge it hasn't been the
Speaker 11: best rookie class that hasn't caught the league. By fire but,
Speaker 11: you KNOW certainly i got to see him up close
Speaker 11: in college a couple, of times Checking Out, briddy james
Speaker 11: and he has that kind of build where, you're, like
Speaker 11: oh could he translate this To A marcus smite smart type.
Speaker 8: Of game on?
Speaker 11: Both ends and Obviously this jazz eason has been about
Speaker 11: doing things to prepare themselves for, the future, of COURSE
Speaker 11: but I think i WOULD be i have a hard
Speaker 11: time seeing myself not putting him on, my ballot probably
Speaker 11: on the, second.
Speaker 2: Team since you and that was a very professional way
Speaker 2: of putting the approach Of The, utah jazz very Kind,
Speaker 2: to dave doing things to consider, their future certainly unseerious.
Speaker 2: ABOUT winning i wonder what sort OF because i was
Speaker 2: told by somebody with the team that the one player
Speaker 2: that's taking this the Hardest Is. Walker kessler and you
Speaker 2: can tell at Times When will hardy wants to get
Speaker 2: honest that this is not something that.
Speaker 1: He's enjoying he's got two.
Speaker 2: Years left both options picked up he's part of the,
Speaker 2: brain trust he's part of, the deal he's part of.
Speaker 2: The future but in your history of being around, the
Speaker 2: game covering, the game what sort of toll does losing
Speaker 2: like this take on? Young players fifty plus years of,
Speaker 2: jazz basketball this is the first team that's lost more than.
Speaker 11: Sixty, games yeah, it's BRUTAL and i think we've spoken about.
Speaker 11: It before if it becomes a prolonged kind of purposely
Speaker 11: staying in purgatory in order to extend your window as,
Speaker 11: a team, you know kind of not quite ready to
Speaker 11: jump into the double dutch and get the. BALL rolling
Speaker 11: i think that is extremely difficult on players and coaches
Speaker 11: who are trying to establish their career and recognize that
Speaker 11: their reputation could be tied to an organization that doesn't
Speaker 11: align with what their hopes and. Dreams are and while
Speaker 11: there are guaranteed contracts IN, the nba that, makes it,
Speaker 11: YOU know i think a better situation than someone saying
Speaker 11: IN the nfl finding themselves in a, rebuilding situation it
Speaker 11: is still a, sleeping experience and, YOU know i think
Speaker 11: we have to remind ourselves though it can change on
Speaker 11: a trifle BECAUSE, the nba you have five players on
Speaker 11: the court at any, given time if you get one
Speaker 11: of those difference makers in, the draft or, you know
Speaker 11: trade falls in, your lap all of, a sudden.
Speaker 7: You, could have, you know a guy.
Speaker 11: From one year to the next that makes the other
Speaker 11: four guys are playing with that much better and your.
Speaker 11: Stock changes, And yeah i'm sure it's no secret. Like
Speaker 11: That the jazz want to be in On The cooper,
Speaker 11: flag sweepstakes and if they, get them you're going to
Speaker 11: get a guy who Just took duke to the, final
Speaker 11: four possibly to a Championship, on monday and carry on
Speaker 11: those winning ways and be a guy who clearly it's not.
Speaker 11: About him he seems to be a guy who can
Speaker 11: fit in with any type. Of talent maybe things feel
Speaker 11: a lot Better For walker.
Speaker 8: Kessler just six months.
Speaker 11: From now AND so i think that is kind of
Speaker 11: where there has to be a degree of patients with
Speaker 11: the process, like this because when we look at the,
Speaker 11: draft board you do see some special people at the top.
Speaker 11: This year, that said it is, a lottery and if
Speaker 11: you end up with more than, twenty wins is that
Speaker 11: like you get one hundred percent chance at the number.
Speaker 8: One pick and the best you can do is twenty five.
Speaker 2: Percent chance so one more thing here and we'll stay
Speaker 2: in the space of what you. Just reference If the
Speaker 2: jazz are able To Have lady luck shine upon them
Speaker 2: in a way that they never have before in nine
Speaker 2: trips To the lottery and number One is utahs and
Speaker 2: they use That On cooper Flag With lotry Market And
Speaker 2: Walker Kestler, Cooper flags i'm exciting whites for. The market so.
Speaker 2: There's THAT but i wouldn't want to, Ask. YOU david
Speaker 2: i know you're not, a SCOUT but, i mean obviously
Speaker 2: you have a lot of great draft analysis over at
Speaker 2: the dot com and also on the shows that you
Speaker 2: do of all of the comps that you've Heard For,
Speaker 2: cooper flag for jazz fans that really want to see,
Speaker 2: this happen who kind of tracks? The most what sort
Speaker 2: of player do you think he could be if he
Speaker 2: stays healthy and has developed the right way when it's.
Speaker 2: FULLY developed.
Speaker 11: I think the floor IS someone i think this name
Speaker 11: should resonate with jazz fans is Someone Like, andrew kerlinka
Speaker 11: a five tool player defensive minded doesn't necessarily need touches
Speaker 11: on offense to still have an extreme effect on. The
Speaker 11: game the ceiling could be someone like a Plus Side,
Speaker 11: scottie pippen who can obviously play in the, open floor
Speaker 11: be a lockdown and defender on, the perimeter what with the,
Speaker 11: ball skills be able to turn a turnover into a
Speaker 11: fast break where he is the man on the ball
Speaker 11: and able to finish it himself or set up. A teammate,
Speaker 11: AND again i think the KIND of dna of both
Speaker 11: THOSE players i mentioned.
Speaker 8: Is neither of them were about.
Speaker 11: Personal stats neither of them were about kind of the
Speaker 11: ego side of things and needing it to be all.
Speaker 11: About themselves, of course there are moments That, with pippen
Speaker 11: but we'll forgive. Him that The overall arkivis career was a.
Speaker 11: Team player that is something that anyone you talked To
Speaker 11: About cooper, flag says that's what he's.
Speaker 7: All ABOUT and i Was.
Speaker 11: In vegas last summer when he was Competing WITH, team
Speaker 11: USA and i got to only a small portion of
Speaker 11: that session where he played against the. National team the senior,
Speaker 11: NATIONAL team i, should say was open to, the MEDIA
Speaker 11: but i got to speak to some of the COACHES
Speaker 11: when i, was there, you know, at nighttime and talk
Speaker 11: to them about what they saw in the gym and
Speaker 11: they were singing the, kids' praises and so if you
Speaker 11: could possibly get someone, LIKE that i think it's a
Speaker 11: harsh pill worth swallowing for a season to put yourself in,
Speaker 11: the running, you know because you get get someone like
Speaker 11: that all of, a sudden now you're looking at a
Speaker 11: window for your franchise of five to ten years of
Speaker 11: hope and excitement and, you know really changing.
Speaker 5: Your trajectory so we.
Speaker 2: Saw Little warriors lakers, last night little. LEBRONZE staff i
Speaker 2: think the broadcast said for the fifty sixth time these
Speaker 2: to go at it, And, look dave it might be
Speaker 2: time to start Talking About golden state a little. BIT differently,
Speaker 2: i think what is it twenty and Four With, Jimmy
Speaker 2: butler and, you know The way draymond's looked lately has
Speaker 2: also BEEN something i don't think has been talked. About
Speaker 2: enough he is back to being. That, Guy defensively steph
Speaker 2: Is still steph even at. That age coming.
Speaker 7: Is.
Speaker 2: Healthy now i've talked to you, a lot and it's
Speaker 2: probably just time to say it's okay see officially and.
Speaker 2: Everybody else but do we need to start Looking At
Speaker 2: golden state differently than we had prior to the past twenty.
Speaker 2: FOUR games.
Speaker 11: I have to spend some Time with draymond the night before,
Speaker 11: the game and he WAS in espn kind of doing
Speaker 11: the car washing and meeting, with folks doing. Some interviews
Speaker 11: and his belief level.
Speaker 5: Right now is through.
Speaker 11: The CHARTS and I know draymond is someone who seemingly
Speaker 11: is always talking, about something so on, some LEVEL maybe
Speaker 11: i should take it with a grain. Of salt but
Speaker 11: to me or a guy that's been around for work
Speaker 11: championship teams In that warriors, locker room the way he's
Speaker 11: talking about them right now is like he's expecting them
Speaker 11: to make a. Deep run i'm not saying we could like.
Speaker 5: We will and.
Speaker 11: That combined with, the record Combined With steve kurse seemingly
Speaker 11: finding this starting lineup now that he feels like is
Speaker 11: the right mixing matchup of guys who have they're thirteen
Speaker 11: to zero with the small ball group with Obviously they're
Speaker 11: big Three and Jimmy And, stephan draymond and then You
Speaker 11: Have brandon pazemski who was fantastic, last Night And moses
Speaker 11: moody who's kind of filling that stretch role that you
Speaker 11: know they were kind of unsure whether it would occur,
Speaker 11: or not and then you get the likes of Someone
Speaker 11: Like jonathan cominger come off the bench and he had
Speaker 11: a great Game. Against lakers they, are legitimate and, of
Speaker 11: course when it comes down to it in, a series
Speaker 11: You Have, steph curry who's proved When the chips were
Speaker 11: down this past Summer, in france there was. Nobody better
Speaker 11: and you have a championship. HEAD coach i think they
Speaker 11: are a very. Serious contender the thing is Because the
Speaker 11: west is still. So crowded they're game Behind the lakers.
Speaker 5: For fifth.
Speaker 11: They don't have this tie break With. The lakers even
Speaker 11: Though the lakers lost, Last night lakers still won the,
Speaker 11: season series.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 11: All of this work that they've done thus far could
Speaker 11: still in them being in sixth or something like that
Speaker 11: and Playing The denver nuggets in the. First Round And
Speaker 11: denver nuggets are terrible matchup, for them.
Speaker 5: And it could be all.
Speaker 11: For not so it's kind of. Like both i'm speaking
Speaker 11: on both sides of. My mouth but they, are legitimate
Speaker 11: But the west is so tough that they could get
Speaker 11: a bad draw and they're out in the.
Speaker 2: First round, All, right DAVE before i say, YOU loose
Speaker 2: i know you got, To go so be as short
Speaker 2: on this as. You want and my guess is you
Speaker 2: might be, very SHORT because i am going to ask
Speaker 2: you a question about a player that you've covered forever
Speaker 2: and a company that signed, your paychecks and where you're
Speaker 2: a pillion. Saw lake you know. The deal lebron goes on,
Speaker 2: McAfee's show there's the back and Forth WITH. STEVEN a
Speaker 2: i have no idea why Win Horse cat Strays when
Speaker 2: brian has done nothing but stand Up for lebron and
Speaker 2: be fair to him. For years my question to, you
Speaker 2: is why did We had bill ram on this Week
Speaker 2: and bill got into a Thing with lebron a few?
Speaker 2: Years back why do You think lebron even entertains any
Speaker 2: of THIS what i perceived to be.
Speaker 1: Utter nonsense i'm.
Speaker 2: Just curious.
Speaker 11: It's a really, fair question and it's not Even that
Speaker 11: i'm reticent to. ANSWER it i just don't. Quite know,
Speaker 11: You know lebron is someone that in MANY respects, i
Speaker 11: admire certainly for what he's made, to accomplish but his
Speaker 11: dedication to his craft IS something i think anyone in
Speaker 11: any field can kind of draw some sort of. Inspiration
Speaker 11: from at the, same time some days he's about being
Speaker 11: a statesman and a role model.
Speaker 8: And, an ambassador and some days he's like.
Speaker 5: A dude in.
Speaker 11: A BARBERSHOP and i think the Version of lebron that
Speaker 11: we Saw if, pat McAfee was. Very relaxed he did
Speaker 11: almost an hour and a half, INTERVIEW both i think
Speaker 11: the Host and lebron, they were, you know casually dropping
Speaker 11: curse words here, and there and, you know what you
Speaker 11: heard from him was certainly not a, polished version and
Speaker 11: sometimes that can be. Really relevatory in, this, Case obviously
Speaker 11: BRIAN and i wrote a best selling Book about. Lebron
Speaker 11: together he's a really.
Speaker 5: GOOD colleague i respect.
Speaker 11: HIS work i found out to, Be unfortunate, BUT yeah i,
Speaker 11: you know Even as I've covered lebron and his teams
Speaker 11: for more than a, DECADE now i would ever venture
Speaker 11: to SAY that i know the full scope of. The guy,
Speaker 11: you know we were afforded so many opportunities to be
Speaker 11: around a guy through, media access but there's all sorts
Speaker 11: of layers to the life that we aren't.
Speaker 8: Privy TO so.
Speaker 11: I would say that the overall picture for the guy
Speaker 11: is still, overwhelmingly POSITIVE and i think you could find
Speaker 11: a lot of positive in that seventy five minute.
Speaker 5: Interview you Did with.
Speaker 11: Pat McAfee but there's gonna be some slip ups here,
Speaker 11: and THERE and i think some of the things, he
Speaker 11: said certainly his Comments About, brian winors, you know kind.
Speaker 5: Of, Necessary dave, thank.
Speaker 2: You sir appreciate. THE time i have a. Great weekend we'll. Chat,
Speaker 2: TOOON okay i take care, of that. All right dave
Speaker 2: mcmitman COVERS the NBA. For espn find Them on twitter
Speaker 2: at mc ten is where you. Find, him yeah just
Speaker 2: kind of an. Odd thing dave would know The lebron
Speaker 2: angle as much. As anybody, friday afternoon it's the final
Speaker 2: segment of the show for the day and for.
Speaker 1: The Week happy friday. To, YOU congratulations ja.
Speaker 7: Made it.
Speaker 2: Weekend time hopefully have something. Fun planned the weather is
Speaker 2: supposed to, be Fine like, april fine, you know. Fifty
Speaker 2: degrees you got fifty two tomorrow For the utah football
Speaker 2: scrimmage coming up at ten O'clock At.
Speaker 1: Rice cycles they're allowing the media.
Speaker 2: To watch look. At, them wow. How exciting And then
Speaker 2: sunday fifty Seven and sunday next week in, the sixties
Speaker 2: and then, you know we'll see Because it's April And.
Speaker 2: Utah porter we were discussing earlier whether or not YOU
Speaker 2: or i has had a hole, in one and the answer.
Speaker 2: Is no are you prone to outbursts where you use
Speaker 2: language that your mother would be disappointed to hear you
Speaker 2: use at times on the? Golf course.
Speaker 4: Just knowing, my mother she doesn't she doesn't give. A, hoot.
Speaker 2: Well your hypothetical mom that cares, about, Sweat.
Speaker 4: RIGHT yes i am prone.
Speaker 3: To outbreaks the fact that we have, gone through however
Speaker 3: Many years i've been on the radio without any anything
Speaker 3: like that kind of crossing over is quite. The, Feet
Speaker 3: yeah i'm prone to that. FOR sure i don't have
Speaker 3: much of. A filter i've done a decent job of
Speaker 3: it staying on air.
Speaker 2: Real quick did you just say she doesn't give, a
Speaker 2: hoot doesn't give? A hoot you're like thirty, years old
Speaker 2: you don't see give? A hoot what?
Speaker 7: Are you?
Speaker 2: Sixty seven.
Speaker 4: It's boots you Know where.
Speaker 1: I'M from i, don't know, all right we're thirty.
Speaker 4: Years behind HERE'S why i bring.
Speaker 2: It up, ryan McCormick who is a golfer on The
Speaker 2: Corn ferry tour and has not been playing. Very well
Speaker 2: he's had a lot of outbursts, this year they've been
Speaker 2: captured on social and for The Upcoming Corn faerry tour tournament,
Speaker 2: this weekend he has decided to play a tournament with
Speaker 2: his mouth taped shut so he does not have. Angry.
Speaker 4: OUTBURSTS interesting i bet he's gonna shoot a.
Speaker 2: Terrible, round well and also that's it's NOT that, i
Speaker 2: mean that doesn't, Protect, you like it's not hard to
Speaker 2: take the tape off, your. MOUTH like i don't think
Speaker 2: this feels like it's it's more of an. ATTENTION grab
Speaker 2: i don't think that's going to be. VERY effective i.
Speaker 3: Was, gonna say is he doing the is he like
Speaker 3: sponsored by one of those companies that's doing cold plunges
Speaker 3: and tape in their mouth while? They sleep is he
Speaker 3: is he like combining it with that or? Is it
Speaker 3: is it all about the, You know.
Speaker 2: I've actually i've actually Had because i've got a couple of,
Speaker 2: let's see let's be, careful Here.
Speaker 1: IT'S friday i have a, couple, WELL no i have
Speaker 1: a couple of.
Speaker 2: Family members and friends that have kind of leaned into
Speaker 2: the manisphere type Cold Plunge, andrew kuberman, sunlight exposure, and
Speaker 2: look some of that stuff is. Very valuable let me
Speaker 2: sit where you should preface it with some, of that
Speaker 2: but the tape on the. Mouth thing so My, brother
Speaker 2: nate who IS the ceo of the clothing company that
Speaker 2: we talked, About, often ROWAN and i have a Bag
Speaker 2: of roan for YOU that i just need to. Bring
Speaker 2: You and.
Speaker 1: Nate rules.
Speaker 2: He's awesome he's a. Smart kid all my little brothers
Speaker 2: are smarter and more ACCOMPLISHED than.
Speaker 1: I am but, you know we're in a.
Speaker 2: Family vacation, he's, like, hey bro have you ever tried
Speaker 2: a tape in your mouth show when? You sleep, i'm,
Speaker 2: like no that. Sounds horrible IT'S.
Speaker 5: Like i do it.
Speaker 2: Every night so he had. Ron tape, oh wow and,
Speaker 2: he said look just. Try, this okay It was. Roan
Speaker 2: tape it was like some sort of all those companies
Speaker 2: they just do collaborations with, each other, like hey here's a,
Speaker 2: rown shirt send me a pair. Of shoes he never pays.
Speaker 2: For anything, it's wild like he has figured out life
Speaker 2: in a WAY that I wish. I could that's part of,
Speaker 2: the game. Isn't it it is then why we should
Speaker 2: be better. AT that i don't think we're very good.
Speaker 4: At that we're not, Selling, anything spence we're, Selling air we're.
Speaker 2: Selling thoughts wait, a second we are, selling, entertainment enlightenment
Speaker 2: and information for four hours every single day on.
Speaker 3: The, Rating right i'm just saying it's hard to trade that.
Speaker 3: For things they don't know our value in the. Business
Speaker 3: world they don't know what we bring to.
Speaker 4: The tape we.
Speaker 1: Are undervalue that's.
Speaker 2: Well, said anyway long, story short grab some of. THE
Speaker 2: tape i go to lay DOWN and i was exhausted
Speaker 2: because our family vacations are. Never relaxing we have to
Speaker 2: get up at six and do the things, until TEN
Speaker 2: and i FELT like i.
Speaker 7: Was.
Speaker 2: DROWNING oh i woke up in a PANIC because i
Speaker 2: couldn't BREATHE because i GUESS when, I sleep i tend
Speaker 2: to breathe out of, my MOUTH which i.
Speaker 4: Didn't know I'll play devil's advocate for the sake of.
Speaker 2: The, show.
Speaker 3: Now if you're not like really trying to get to
Speaker 3: the next level as an athlete or something, like that
Speaker 3: the differences that you will see from like taping your
Speaker 3: mouth shut or whatever not gonna do much. For you
Speaker 3: but if you tape your mouth shut and you, can't
Speaker 3: breathe that probably means you got something, going on maybe
Speaker 3: a deviated septum or a broken nose from way back
Speaker 3: that is. Bothering you the real thing is to go
Speaker 3: get that taken care of so you don't have to
Speaker 3: tape your, mouth shut and so you can breathe clearly through,
Speaker 3: your nose through, your mouth through all of, the above
Speaker 3: and then you, get like, you know all the oxygen
Speaker 3: you're supposed. To get i've seen some runners. DO it
Speaker 3: i think that makes more sense. Than sleeping but when
Speaker 3: you're trying to get the, airway, open yeah training your
Speaker 3: your body to breathe through your nose is not a.
Speaker 3: Bad thing, BUT yeah i think it's kind of silly
Speaker 3: when guys are sleeping.
Speaker 2: With it somebody is crushing A Little, Andrew, HUBERMAN.
Speaker 7: Listen i like.
Speaker 4: TO run i like to get. Out There so i'm
Speaker 4: just saying to have a good.
Speaker 3: To know where you're at with like, your breathing your your,
Speaker 3: sinus rhythm your, you know whether you're doing it through
Speaker 3: your nose of your mouth is actually there's some signs.
Speaker 3: Behind it, but AGAIN like, I said i'm not going
Speaker 3: to be taping my mouth shut to sleep through.
Speaker 2: The night did you get your sunlight exposure. This, morning
Speaker 2: no are you going to be rubbing your face with
Speaker 2: a banana pio when you wake.
Speaker 4: UP tomorrow i haven't done that. One yet did you
Speaker 4: see that?
Speaker 2: Guy's routine it WENT like i had, no choice but
Speaker 2: of course it's. Not real, my face so my but,
Speaker 2: hold on. Hold on my favorite part of that video
Speaker 2: is him. At work, he's, like bro we got to
Speaker 2: get in for, ten thousand like he's it's it's it
Speaker 2: is all such a facade and. So Fake it it
Speaker 2: breaks my heart that anybody falls for. These charlatans that's.
Speaker 2: What sucks my.
Speaker 3: Favorite Part and i'm sure you guys have seen different
Speaker 3: videos and different versions, of this but. It's this it's
Speaker 3: this guy with his like, morning routine right and he
Speaker 3: wakes up at three point fifty seven am and by,
Speaker 3: nine am the the only thing he has done is
Speaker 3: washed his face and gone to. The gym now he's
Speaker 3: made it, like this this cool video that's getting a
Speaker 3: bunch of, you know social, media views and it looks
Speaker 3: like this really deep and. Awesome routine he literally took
Speaker 3: six hours to, wake up clean up and go to.
Speaker 2: The gym.
Speaker 1: The whole thing is just such a it's.
Speaker 2: So fraudulent it should be illegal because the problem is
Speaker 2: with all the people that watch that, video enough probably
Speaker 2: we're convinced that, it's real that he probably got some
Speaker 2: subscriptions and made money because people don't know. Any better
Speaker 2: they think what they see is real online they pay
Speaker 2: for and these charlatans are. Stealing money it's beyond bothers,
Speaker 2: the toing and we're at.
Speaker 3: The point now where it doesn't even have to be
Speaker 3: like you have a partnership with, this brand you have
Speaker 3: a here. Or there you're getting paid just for engagement on.
Speaker 3: Social media so even if you're doing things that are,
Speaker 3: strictly bait right you're strictly trolling people or just trying
Speaker 3: to get them to click and, comment hate you're still.
Speaker 3: Making money we're we're an interesting place in, that regard spence.
Speaker 2: Interesting PLACE when i saw, THAT video i actually considered
Speaker 2: doing one of my own to actually show you exactly
Speaker 2: what mornings look like.
Speaker 4: For me you guys would you guys would have a
Speaker 4: field day, with me.
Speaker 1: Like scrolling on. My phone it's, Like nine, i'm LIKE
Speaker 1: do i really want to get out?
Speaker 2: Of bed, you know like the dog comes and jumps,
Speaker 2: on me scrounging together some sort of breakfast situation and
Speaker 2: then lean into it like DO like i want to
Speaker 2: release like actual real morning routine videos so people feel better.
Speaker 2: About themselves you do not need to wake up, at four,
Speaker 2: you know dip your head in, ice water do this sun.
Speaker 1: Routine like you don't need to do all.
Speaker 3: That stuff, for example i am a thirty year old
Speaker 3: man working a JOB that i dreamed about DOING when i.
Speaker 4: Was younger i'm in.
Speaker 3: Good shape you, could say, You know i'm doing okay
Speaker 3: in that in that regard in, the personal, you. Know
Speaker 3: sphere but if you see me On a, monday, MORNING
Speaker 3: say i, don't know nine thirty nine forty, FIVE am i,
Speaker 3: Am scraggly i'm stumbling out of my. FRONT door i
Speaker 3: probably don't say a word for first hour or so
Speaker 3: of my. Waking moments, you know it's, not pretty it's not,
Speaker 3: like aesthetic but it's how it. Really is and the
Speaker 3: people that are on, the, internet now, let's see maybe
Speaker 3: some of them are are are. Being authentic i'm sure
Speaker 3: a lot of, them are but there is so much
Speaker 3: inauthenticity trying to sell you on something or a course
Speaker 3: or something, that yeah yet you should you should probably
Speaker 3: try to find a way to, navigate, it because, LIKE
Speaker 3: you i have unfortunately seen a fair share of people
Speaker 3: in my network THAT have i wouldn't say leaned into,
Speaker 3: that stuff but definitely been taken by it a.
Speaker 9: Little.
Speaker 2: Bit bro we got to get in for like, ten
Speaker 2: thousand at, Least, fifteen bro that's what he said, at
Speaker 2: work which he probably doesn't, do anything but he was
Speaker 2: rubbing his face with. A banana what. An, idiot anyway
Speaker 2: do not fall for. These scammers i'm sorry if, you
Speaker 2: have we. Have misbehaved we got to get out, of
Speaker 2: here reporter before we get our. Weekend started what comes
Speaker 2: our way On A monday showy On.
Speaker 3: A, monday show as we do each And, Every Monday
Speaker 3: the latest On the utes with Our Guy, Josh Furlong
Speaker 3: tom haberstrow stops by FOR The Nba. Daily assist we'll
Speaker 3: have some sound from. Youte spring we have a scrimmage
Speaker 3: that we're allowed to be At, on saturday so we'll
Speaker 3: have some stuff, from that and then as baseball, season
Speaker 3: starts the Women's basketball, Tournament Continues tony parks will be
Speaker 3: in studio for an. Entire Hour, bees jazz really any
Speaker 3: direction you want to go with.
Speaker 2: That guy, all right that'll be A fun. Monday show
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