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Speaker 1: We gotta talk controversy. We got to talk Olympic sports.

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Speaker 4: We gotta talk college football landscape being up ended once

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again with head coaches, head coaching searches continuing. Yes, not

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for this Thursday, December eleventh edition of Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 1: Want to welcome in first and foremost, the executive producer,

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co host host does social Media, who was down at

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practice earlier today boa football practice, interacting with the coaches

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and players as well as former players. Do we Gray?

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Let's welcome to Ronald the three man Weaver. What's up, Roddy?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 6: Ben?

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Speaker 2: I was at practice, indeed saw Duran Gray. He was

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talking to the team. Give him all pumped up because

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BYU was taking on Georgia Tech and the Pop.

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Speaker 5: Tarts ball Ben. That's most importantly.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, got a interview with BYU linebackers

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Speaker 5: We'll play that for you guys. Just wait on it.

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Speaker 2: Gotta finish edit me mat, But yeah, Justin did not

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the new negative controversy about a Rod.

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Speaker 5: I asked him about him calling Isaiah.

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asked him about Jack Kelly. He gave an update on

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Chay Bryan Strawler and his injury. I did not hold

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bringing the hammer hammertime show. How are you, buddy, I'm good.

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lot of fun today, So I think it's okay for

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Speaker 4: Man, hey, we're all we're all navigating winning our way

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through this life and the fallen state of men. We

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football games and football players and football coaches, and we

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Speaker 1: Goes off the field, it goes off the court.

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and men. We're mammals, we're very baseline. We're just above

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the primates, all right, We're not that far off well,

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those primas we want to be, but sometimes we succumb

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mentors in life. So if you don't have good mentors,

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what mentorship is. Like. I have great mentors in my life.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: They're there for me. I'm not just a taker.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a leech, right, I got to I'm always

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asking the question, how am I adding value to this

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person's life and the people in my life that surround me.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not perfect by anyways.

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Speaker 4: You guys know that having to deal with me on

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the daily. But I'm always trying to add value to

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everybody that I come in contact with.

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Speaker 1: And so mammals need mentors, men need mentors. We all

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need mentorship.

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Speaker 4: Try to add value to the people that you want

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to surround yourself with as much as possible so they

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can give feedback when you're in utmost need, when you

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are in a mental state, in a physical, emotional, psychological

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state that needs okay, a little bit of help, a

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little bit of mentorship, Okay, my word of advice, my nugget.

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do think that that is a great way to approach life.

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Bread always bringing the Hamer appreciates you starting off that way.

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Speaker 7: Also in the studio, Well, on the mental health side

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of things, I'm living a great life. My life is wonderful,

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but the only thing that gets me down mentally is

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that I do not get to step inside the Bell

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Speaker 1: That just every time.

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Speaker 7: I Yeah, but the Marriott Center's great different just man, Okay,

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the Married Center is a better environment than ever state

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it because we stunk at football and we.

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Speaker 1: Were surprisingly good.

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Speaker 1: Basketball, There's a lot of exciting games that year.

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Speaker 7: And then I go into Lavell Edwards Stadium last year

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twenty twenty four, and I was like, oh, dang, we

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got this.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know. We have great environments and

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back to back eleven and two seasons will do that

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for you. It's great, and I'm just I'm I'm very excited.

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I actually haven't been in the Marriot Center yet this year.

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Speaker 7: If he thinks I've gotten in the way, so Saturday

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Speaker 1: Have you made an official announcement on the good news?

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Speaker 4: I always say I have not. We're gonna We're gonna

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hold off on that. Okay, I just want to I

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wanted to see if it was appropriate.

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Speaker 1: Now everyone knows there's news to be news. There's news news.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's okay. We won't break that news today. We'll

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break other sports news. But we appreciate ap being here.

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Also shout out to Vic Cram on the data aggregation

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in our newsletter. Appreciate him. I gotta start start of

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cash for are you Cougar fans of Cougar Country.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get an A Rod sound Here are our

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executive producer, Ronald the three Man. We was down there

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getting some soundbites, so we'll get into a Rod. A

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Rod is a bit of a controversial figure amongst Cougarnation, right,

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I have to have this conversation all the freaking time.

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It seems I'm like guys like I just don't think

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there's ever there. There's never been an offensive coordinator that

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you guys have actually been happy with. You guys got

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a high bar. I get it. This year sp plus

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puts b YU is the twenty third best most efficient

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offense in college football.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty good, right, pretty gosh ding good? All things considered,

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b YU was a great football team.

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Speaker 1: This year. Last year they were also, I would say

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Speaker 4: They they made a ton of improvements. I'd have to

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pull up the SP plus final ranking here, but I

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want to say they were in like the forty range,

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Speaker 1: But boy, fans, they got a high standard, they got

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Speaker 4: And some are are supportive of a Rod and others

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Speaker 1: Arob. He's a bit of a polarizing figure.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna hear from a Rod in the nitty gritty

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more so, stay tuned, don't go any here for a

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little A Rod commentary. Also Josh for long or Sorry.

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of the des Red News. Tad Welch has been covering

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conference in which the the contract extension was ultimately promulgated

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to the world. We'll get his thoughts on what he's

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three h five Josh Furlong know the faux segment as

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well as getting to know what this private equity deal.

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Speaker 1: Is all about.

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Speaker 4: Up on the Hill Josh Forlong utaih Ut insider for

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KSL dot Com. Four h five Brandon Aco of Odeon

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always staying up to date on all the news and notes,

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coming out to bring them and get his thoughts on

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to discuss some let's talk about stats private equity. He's

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five o five a little Preston and Garrett Handy. It's

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Real quick before we get to the sound, how would

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you describe AP Brendo is.

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Speaker 1: Bringing the hammer, Ronald the Three Man Weave.

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Speaker 4: Your interactions with other fans, other media members, other personas

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that have an opinion on Aaron Roderick, how would you

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Speaker 1: How would you describe.

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Speaker 4: Those conversations typically as you interact with them postgame, during

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the week, et cetera. AP start off with us and

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then want to get Ronald the Three Man Weavers.

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Speaker 1: Thoughts, I don't mean to be rude or anything.

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Speaker 7: I say this with all the love in my heart,

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but if anyone has an opinion on Aaron Roderick, it

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generally comes with a very short fuse. So if they're

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going to be positive about Aaron Roderick, it usually is

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positive while things are going well, But as soon as

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we punt, we blame a rod instead of the execution

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on the field, which I don't think is right.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So everything falls on the shoulders. So if Bear

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doesn't complete a pass, then it's it's a.

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Speaker 1: Bad play call. And then it's a bad play call

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if Bear doesn't pick up the first down. If l J,

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it's a bad play call. It falls on if if

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an offensive Lineman misses a block, it's a bad play call,

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and therefore it's a Rod's fault.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say that's that's generally what

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I get from from fans, which I don't necessarily think

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is correct. I do think Aaron Rodgers does need to

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be held accountable for things at times, but every offensive

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failure is not an offensive coordinator problem. Sometimes it's the

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players just not doing their assignments.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let me give you an example of that. I

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think it's really on point. Okay, So remember the play

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in which bear Bachmeyer got injured in the Texas Tech game.

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Speaker 1: So people are like, ah, why would you run the

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quarterback right there? Right? They makes it. It's a horrible

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play call.

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Speaker 4: Bear Bachmeyer is one of the best running quarterbacks in

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college football this year, over five hundred yards rushing and

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they a left or was at ten eleven rushing touchdown.

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Eleven rushing touchdowns. Uh, it ties the record all time

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in a single season from a BWAU quarterback. Take some hill,

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Steve Young, I think he broke it. He broke it

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was ten before. Now he's at eleven. I think so

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they're gonna blame a rod for the play call. And

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Bear getting injured. That's an example. It's like, oh, it's

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a bad play call, he got injured. Why would you

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do that in that situation versus the best defensive front

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in college football. What you don't see is the right

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guard just getting just tossed like a little like just

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a toddler just to the side, and this massive, massive

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defensive tackle, really good defensive tack for Texas Tech. Go

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in and make the tackle, right, lunge, jump onto the ankle,

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wrap up, and injure Bear Bachmeyer. Now, the play call

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was fine if the right guard holds that block for

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probably a one one thousand and two longer. But the

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knee jerk reaction, the emotional reaction is what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the knee jerk reaction is a calling that yeah

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Speaker 4: And then if I say, well, the right guard miss

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the tackle or miss missed the block, well a rod

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needs to go out and recruit better.

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Speaker 1: That's the that's the next sequence.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you don't have the guys, then you got

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to go recruit better. And then if I retorts like, well,

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we're still you know, getting nil, and you know, I mean,

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that's that's also a T. J.

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Speaker 1: Woods situation as well.

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Speaker 4: You know then then we go kind of go back

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and forth with that back and forth, and look, there's

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valid criticism to be given, no doubt about it at

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certain times.

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Speaker 1: But you got to give the man who's flowers.

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Speaker 4: Last year, twenty twenty four a good season, right, b

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YU offensively per sp plus was actually thirty six in

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the nation thirty six, so not like elite, but I

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would say good thirty six, top thirty six in college

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football with the strength of schedule that they had before them,

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defense was twenty first, and special teams was fourth before

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the last game of the year. Where do they currently

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stand the most recent that dropped three days ago last

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time I checked. I think that offense they were all

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round the same They were all around the same mark.

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I think offense was about twenty third. I'll get this

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pulled up here momentarily, but the defense was right there too,

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around the top twenty five. And I was gonna put

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it out there, like to get your thoughts, gugarnation, because

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these are the data, this is the data, these are

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analytics your feelings. It's kind of like what Ben Shapiir says,

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the facts don't care about your feelings, right, but my

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eye test but my feelings, right, what I see a

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fan will say is like that he's not a good

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OC and we go round and round. So offense twenty

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third in sp plus defense twenty second. And there was

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a significant drop off in the final four games.

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Speaker 1: From the special team standpoint. We had punt returns, had.

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Speaker 4: We had Shane the kicks on punts, and then we

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had Will just not hitting.

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Speaker 1: His traditional field goals. Special teams ended up fifty seven. Yeah,

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they dropped.

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Speaker 4: They were at number five. It's number four throughout most

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of the season. So anyway, just to kind of set

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the tone here as we get into a rod sound

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Aaron Roderick addressing the media earlier today, So was very

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able to practice today?

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Speaker 8: No, not today. He'll play in the game though, but

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he's he didn't practice today.

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Speaker 5: How what.

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Speaker 1: What's what's he dealing with in terms of the severity

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of that.

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Speaker 5: It's not severe. He's fine, it's not severe.

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Speaker 1: So not severe.

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Speaker 4: He was hobbled in that game, though, but he did

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come back and he was I would say average.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, he looked like maybe he's at seventy percent.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he he didn't look like himself, but he didn't

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look like he couldn't play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I did.

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Speaker 7: I did feel like I do feel like a Rod

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was a little short there. You could you could see

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he was he was kind of tired of the narratives

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around him. I don't know, it felt like that was

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coming out a little bit there, a little bit like

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salty Kilani sometimes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a little salty. Sure, he's like nothing, nothing,

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He's fine. Ronald three man weaver your thoughts on Bear

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Bogmeyer's health.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he's salty.

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Speaker 2: I was standing right there the the the reaction to

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the report that asked the question. I was like, so

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it's a valid question, but I'm glad I'm not the

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one getting the short end of the stick on that question.

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A Rod was not like yep, next question, Like he

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was not about it been he's upset. But look, I mean,

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I'll give you my thoughts on it. Every interaction I

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talked to with fans about a Rod not positive, not

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ever positive.

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Speaker 5: And I go back Ben and I checked tape.

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Speaker 2: I said, okay, so take me, you know to the

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the false start that Isaiah Jada had in the second quarter.

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Speaker 5: Was that a Rod's fault.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, the snap count if they if they

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practice that correctly in practice, then he wouldn't fall start

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as like, you do understand that the quarterback is the

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one that has the snapcount right and the center. What

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about Bruce Mitchell snapping the ball above his head and

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saying I can't hear well. If they practice loud conditions

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better in practice, then Bruce should be able to hear this.

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Like that's what I get when I hear from fans,

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and it's just they want It's like it's a person

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that is narcissistic to a degree. They are always right

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knowing everyone else is wrong. A Rod's always wrong and

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nothing a Rod does will ever be validated. Justin Enna

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told me in the interview to tease it, said, the

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reason why we are eleven to two is because of

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a Rod in of discussion.

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Speaker 5: But fans aren't gonna say that. They're gonna say J. Hill, LJ.

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Speaker 2: Martin Harvey. They're gonna find whatever excuse to disvalidate a

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Rod because they don't like him. And I just I

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always have to push back, and I find myself fighting

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fans and giving objective data because they.

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Speaker 5: Don't think a Rod is a good coordinator. And look

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at the data.

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, Jaron Hall, Keaden's loves, even Jake Reretzlav who's

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in the college football playoffs for Tulane.

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Speaker 5: You're telling me that a Rod had nothing to do

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with that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it's it's hard man.

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Speaker 4: You look, I'm not saying you can't criticize I'm not

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saying you can't critique cougarnation.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. And and a Rod's gonna get salty.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be defensive about certain things and certain elements

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of his of his team, his staff, his play calling,

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et cetera. Like that's all part of it because he's

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a competitor.

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Speaker 1: And you would be like.

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Speaker 4: If I if I sat there for a week over

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over your shoulder, evaluating you and your corporate responsibilities, the

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time that you're wasting, you know, the lack of excuse,

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I compare and contrast you to the competitors in the market.

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I'm sure you're gonna come out like I always say,

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most of you guys are probably Bowl eligible, Bowl eligible employees.

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Most of you guys because you're not gonna lose your job.

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But if I pit you against the best teams of

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the best team of Salt Lake City in your competitive field,

473
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or I or the best team in Arizona in your.

474
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Speaker 1: Particular field, you may get your your teeth kicked in

475
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,599
a little bit. You may more than you win. Does

476
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,000
that make sense? Right?

477
00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 4: And so I think we all have to kind of

478
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,839
take that into account as we're evaluating performance of these individuals.

479
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: How well resourced are they?

480
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 4: We're getting up to that, right, We're seeing only recently

481
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:22,720
an investment in coaches. I would say that are offered

482
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,039
jobs elsewhere? Does that make sense? That are wanted elsewhere?

483
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,039
And some people say, well a Rod is he wanted elsewhere?

484
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:30,839
Speaker 1: Right?

485
00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:34,279
Speaker 4: Is he gonna get job offers elsewhere? And if he's not,

486
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,519
then okay, then he's not that good. Does that make sense?

487
00:22:38,519 --> 00:22:41,279
And I understand that. We'll see, We'll see how many

488
00:22:41,319 --> 00:22:43,240
offers he gets. We'll see if people are wanting him.

489
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,759
Speaker 1: We know that Jay Hill was offered certain jobs and

490
00:22:47,839 --> 00:22:51,279
that pay raise probably went up in accordance with those offers.

491
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,119
Now what will the A Rod situation be? Now?

492
00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,759
Speaker 4: Jay Hill has had Gary Anderson next to him in

493
00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,359
the in the in the in the box for the

494
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,680
last two years. And you've seen with the involvement of

495
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,960
Gary Anderson and Chad k and a lot of these analysts.

496
00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:14,519
The defense has been significantly better in twenty twenty four, five,

497
00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:15,799
twenty twenty three, it wasn't great.

498
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't know last time he thre wasn't great.

499
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,839
Speaker 4: It was okay, maybe some improvement yet, but it wasn't

500
00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,440
It wasn't significantly improved by any means. So maybe, and

501
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,000
this is something that Emmahamuli brought up former bo You

502
00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:29,960
running backs, maybe Aarond just needs an analyst akin to

503
00:23:30,319 --> 00:23:31,039
Gary Anderson.

504
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 1: But who is that guy?

505
00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:37,079
Speaker 7: I do want to say this about Aaron Rodrick as

506
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someone who has been critical.

507
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: I have been critical of Aaron Rodricks at times.

508
00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:41,759
Speaker 7: I will not die away from that, and I think

509
00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:46,079
sometimes that criticism is valid. But for everyone who is

510
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,039
saying fire a rod for two games of this season,

511
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:51,839
by way, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna give

512
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,200
an excuse for only scoring seven points, because I do

513
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,119
think you need to score more than that, especially if

514
00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,440
you're given a second try at it. But name another

515
00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:03,079
offensive coordinator that can get you an eleven win season

516
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359
with a freshman quarterback. The answer in BYU history is

517
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,680
there is no other offensive coordinator that can do it.

518
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,079
It's never been done before.

519
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 6: It.

520
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 7: He's literally doing things that I've never been done before.

521
00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:16,960
You like Zach, You like the Jaron Halls and the

522
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:19,720
Zach Wilson's. Guess who developed them? When you're giving the

523
00:24:19,759 --> 00:24:22,000
excuse of Aaron Roderick had this guy and then Aaron

524
00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,359
Rodrick had this guy who coached those guys, it was

525
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Aaron Roderick.

526
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Speaker 1: He's the one who's developing them.

527
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Speaker 7: And so when he's consistently turning out great quarterbacks, you

528
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,279
can't say it's the great quarterback making Aaron Roderick great.

529
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:35,640
It's Aaron Roderick making great quarterbacks.

530
00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:38,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, No one wants to give credit to Aaron

531
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,720
rodder for the quarterbacks. Nobody does.

532
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,559
Speaker 7: And let me let me just throw this out there.

533
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:46,000
Let's say you do get your wish and Aaron Rodricks goes.

534
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,640
Guess where Ryder Lyons goes. He does not come to BYU. Yeah,

535
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,960
I do not think. I don't think you can have

536
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,319
Ryder Lyons and not have Aaron Roderick because Ryder Lions

537
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,880
has seen what Aaron Roderick does with qbs. He did

538
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,960
develops great qbs. He's actually done a pretty good job

539
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,640
with receivers and offensive lines too. By the way, just

540
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,160
about every position on the b YU offense has turned

541
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,119
out really great talent under Aaron Rodgers' tenure.

542
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: That's not a coincidence. Yeah, one hundred percent. You're right there.

543
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,279
Speaker 4: Let's get back to the sound Aaron Roderick addressing the

544
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,440
media earlier today.

545
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,559
Speaker 2: So what gives you the confidence that he will play

546
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:23,960
in the game?

547
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, and every all the all the medical people, himself,

548
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,000
everybody's he's he's good. It's not not anything, uh, not

549
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,079
anything anybody's worried about.

550
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 9: And along those lines in terms of confidence, what what

551
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,920
gives you confidence that this offense is going to be

552
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,079
motivated engaged to go out and get one final.

553
00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:43,039
Speaker 8: Win just because these what kind of guys we have

554
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,839
on this team. You know, these guys like to play,

555
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,440
and we've had we've had a great year and one

556
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:49,720
last chance to go play together.

557
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,319
Speaker 5: And that's just who these guys are.

558
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 8: You know, they show up every week and and that

559
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,720
last game was a tough one, but we've showed up

560
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,359
to compete every week and we'll be there and we'll

561
00:25:59,359 --> 00:25:59,920
compete again.

562
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:01,519
Speaker 9: I haven't had the chance to talk to you since

563
00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:05,440
Kolani's extension, but what did that mean for this program

564
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,279
and just maybe the chaos that came with maybe the uncertainty,

565
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,440
and then to have Klanna get that long term extension.

566
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,559
What did that mean from your vantage point for the program?

567
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 8: Well, I think it's just recognition of what a great

568
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,880
job Colonie has done here as a head coach. And

569
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I think it, you know, it helps sort of solidify,

570
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:24,680
you know, recruiting helps you, helps you keep recruiting when

571
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,240
you when you're when you're head coaches. Just signed a

572
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:31,240
new contract, and I think it just he deserved it,

573
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,119
you know. I mean it's I'm just happy for him

574
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,680
as a person like that. He's he's earned that. And

575
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,319
and then I think it just it helps the whole

576
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:41,799
program just feel stable and gives us a good, good

577
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:44,640
foothold to keep keep building and keep getting good players

578
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to come here.

579
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Speaker 6: Were you fairly.

580
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: Content there won't be any opt outs aside from the

581
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,599
two guys.

582
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard of any yet.

583
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 8: I think everybody, as far as I know, everybody's.

584
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 5: Excited to play in this game.

585
00:26:57,039 --> 00:27:00,279
Speaker 8: That's That's like today we had every everybody here a

586
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:03,519
practice dressed and I you know, like Bear didn't didn't

587
00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:06,960
practice today, but he he will, and if we had

588
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,680
a game today, he could have he could have got

589
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:10,799
it out and played today, you know. But so I

590
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,680
don't know of any.

591
00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:14,039
Speaker 1: Speaking of that game.

592
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,319
Speaker 2: Was there any thought because of Bear's condition of going

593
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,400
to a backup.

594
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,839
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.

595
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,559
Speaker 8: I mean, he was a little banged up, but I

596
00:27:22,599 --> 00:27:24,799
think the adrenaline everything he was like, you know, he

597
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,319
kept saying, no, I'm good to go, and so we

598
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,039
never really got to that that that discussion. Now, how

599
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,960
glad are you not to have to face Texas text defense?

600
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good defense. I mean it.

601
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,839
Speaker 8: We we're all disappointed. We didn't play better and we

602
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,519
made you know, the self destructive mistakes in the fourth

603
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:48,359
quarter were hard to watch, but there are times where

604
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,240
we have to give the other team credit. That's a

605
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:53,119
very good defense. It's maybe the best defensive coached against

606
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,599
in my career, and it gives us a good you know,

607
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,480
measuring stick of what where we have to get to

608
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,480
to actually win that game next time, you know, and

609
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,240
work our way back up to that opportunity again and

610
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:08,640
try to win it. And but good defense, very good spurts.

611
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 4: Any thoughts there ap anything that shoot out to you

612
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,920
from the a Rod Comics.

613
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,599
Speaker 7: Well, I did enjoy him saying that we have a

614
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,400
team that actually wants to play. I'm not throwing any

615
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,920
other program out that are under the bus and definitely

616
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,759
not definitely not the quitting Irish, not the quitting Irish, which,

617
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:27,640
by the way, I do have a take on that,

618
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,480
because they keep avoiding BYU, should BYU and Notre Dame

619
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:36,759
ever matchup in a season. Winning that game would almost

620
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,519
be more I think it would be more important than

621
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:43,000
beating Utah that that year, just just because of how

622
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:45,960
just because of Notre Dame's whole attitude.

623
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,039
Speaker 1: But anyways, Ronald the three man weaver, what do you

624
00:28:49,079 --> 00:28:49,519
got for me?

625
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: This is going to be extreme Manning, you might have

626
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,079
to call me out and Brett always bringing the hammer

627
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,160
ap you guys always keep me in check. But this

628
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,119
might be a little bit maybe me stepping outside of

629
00:28:57,119 --> 00:28:59,759
the lines of journalism. BYU should never play Notre Dame

630
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,599
again until they come play in provo. Never that sounds

631
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,920
I know that's an extreme hard take, and that's me

632
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:10,519
going very direct, But this program ducks BYU all consolation, Prizo,

633
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,279
no we deserve It's like no, like you played BYU

634
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:16,920
in Vegas because you want to avoid playing in actual

635
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:20,079
tough environments. You don't want to play in provo at

636
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,720
night against the vampire Kougs in the cold or.

637
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:24,359
Speaker 5: Early, you don't.

638
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,839
Speaker 2: They don't want to do that, Ben, And they've ducked BYU,

639
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440
They've shafted them, they've opted out of bowl games. So

640
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,319
if if I am Brian Santiago and this is petty,

641
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,759
you're we're not playing you until you come to provo

642
00:29:35,799 --> 00:29:36,480
and playoffs.

643
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:39,279
Speaker 5: So not doing it like that. Notre Dame is.

644
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,039
Speaker 2: One of the most like like they're starting to like

645
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,920
bug me Bin of their value and their brand because

646
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,599
you shouldn't duck a certain team because you're scared of

647
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,920
beating them, which lets me know you you can't play

648
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,519
them like you aren't when you see an up and

649
00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:55,240
coming brand like BYU, and it's the same thing I said,

650
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,400
what last year and we had this as a polar day.

651
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,559
I think programs like Notre Dame, the n the SEC

652
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:03,359
and the Big Ten are scared of BYU and Free

653
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,640
are coming to provo because they think if they lose,

654
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,880
it has no value to it, and I just think

655
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,279
that's absurd. But at BYU has to go play them

656
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,119
and go to their home like I'm over that, I'm

657
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,759
over the neutral site, I'm over it.

658
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 5: Play the game.

659
00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:17,799
Speaker 2: Doua Kalani said it, big twelve media availability, make these

660
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:20,759
conferences play each other in home and homes in the

661
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,039
hostile environment and win.

662
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:23,119
Speaker 5: Stop ducking each other.

663
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,599
Speaker 7: Well, I think the Notre Dame problem has a very

664
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:28,440
simple answer, and it is along the lines of what

665
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Ron is saying there. I think that the power conferences

666
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,240
that come together and say we're not playing Notre Dame

667
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:35,720
until Notre Dame joins.

668
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: The conference, there's no advantage to a power conference. Well,

669
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:40,039
there is a movement for.

670
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: That that just dropped, I believe it was yesterday stating

671
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,519
that with the current deal that Notre Dame has with

672
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:49,839
the College Football Playoff Committee that if they're in the

673
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,480
top twelve, top thirteen, top fourteen, essentially they will get

674
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,599
into the college Football Playoff. Now eighties are realizing that

675
00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:00,960
that is a part of Notre Dame's deal with ESPN,

676
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,640
with the COLLG Football Playoff Committee, yep, and they're like, well,

677
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:06,799
we're gonna put on a freeze on playing Notre Dame.

678
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,599
Why would we play Notre Dame when they have this

679
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,880
sweetheart deal that behind all of our backs. That's what

680
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,240
they have, and so they have prominence and an easier

681
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:22,720
path into that playoff.

682
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: Exactly.

683
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,359
Speaker 7: Let's think about it. The playoff, it's really all about money.

684
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880
We all know that everyone wants to get into the

685
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,519
playoff to get money. And so the smartest thing for

686
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:35,480
conferences to do is get rid of someone who's just

687
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,160
going to take a spot from your conference. Notre Dame's

688
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,680
not taking the chief the G six spot, they're taking

689
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,000
a power spot. And so if you want to eliminate that,

690
00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:45,720
stop playing them, don't give them a resume, and make

691
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,079
them join a conference so that so that when they

692
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,400
make the playoff, they contribute to another conference instead of

693
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,920
just keeping all the money for themselves.

694
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, that's Do we have any other

695
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:58,559
sound byes we want to get to with a rod?

696
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440
All right, let's let's finish it up and then we'll

697
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,720
call that a checkments.

698
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:03,359
Speaker 8: Georgia Tech.

699
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,519
Speaker 5: What do they present defensively? What's what's what?

700
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

701
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 8: They play really hard, they're tough, and they do a

702
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,319
lot of different things. They they have really good pressures.

703
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:17,279
I mean they disguise their pressures very well and they

704
00:32:17,319 --> 00:32:19,960
come at it from all different angles, and uh, you

705
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,160
know they were ranked as high as sixth or seventh

706
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,200
this year. I think, you know, it's a good, good team,

707
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:26,359
so and very well coached.

708
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: How deep are you guys into game? Basically?

709
00:32:29,759 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 8: Today was our first practice of the game plan. So yeah,

710
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,279
we have we have about half the game plan done

711
00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:37,680
and we today was the.

712
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: First practice of it.

713
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 8: We're gonna practice again tomorrow and and just keep building.

714
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,640
How how are the guys as far as it looked

715
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,160
like you might play notre game?

716
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:49,799
Speaker 5: We obviously got the disappointment they're not going to CFP.

717
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's kind of the morale or the.

718
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,079
Speaker 5: Via to the guys regarding going to the pop tarts?

719
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:58,039
Speaker 8: B the vibe I've gotten as everybody's excited to play.

720
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:01,160
I mean, this team is guys like football. They like

721
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,839
to play, and then they will show up and play anywhere,

722
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,799
you know, put the ball down out there in the

723
00:33:05,799 --> 00:33:08,279
parking lot, We'll come out and play. That's that's been

724
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:11,440
this this team's sort of mentality the last two years

725
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,039
that I've been with them. And and you know, regardless

726
00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,000
of like last year we played Colorado, we were we

727
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,680
were super excited to play and we'll be excited to

728
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,480
play again, this time against Georgia Tech.

729
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:29,039
Speaker 4: There go, that's ay, Rod, I'll go with one last

730
00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:33,160
thing here. It was the initial comment Bear Blackmer Bear's

731
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,640
gonna play? Will he be one?

732
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,119
Speaker 7: You know?

733
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,759
Speaker 4: Brady Papigo said b YU was an ankle roll away

734
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:43,720
from beating Texas Tech. I don't know if that's I

735
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,079
don't necessarily agree with that, but that's what Brady Papingos stated.

736
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,359
And I chatted with a few other people that were

737
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,559
on the sideline that day that felt something akin to that,

738
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,119
that that game plan that we had going in was

739
00:33:56,119 --> 00:34:00,519
gonna work with l J and Bear running the ball,

740
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,599
and our play action game would have been on point

741
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,119
with it. But Bear got injured and we couldn't run

742
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,320
him anymore. So that's how they felt. So if Bear, look,

743
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,039
we all know that Georgia Tech is not as good

744
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,119
as Texas Tech, but that's a top twenty five team

745
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,719
and BYU in their top twenty five matchups.

746
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,079
Speaker 1: Utah, it was a. It was a. It was a

747
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,480
bigger margin of victory, but that's at home bigger margin

748
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:29,079
of victory because I mean I say that because Basing

749
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:30,920
control until they decided to kind of call off the

750
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,719
dogs and go fod on fourth down. Well think I

751
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,719
guess they didn't call off the dogs. They they went

752
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,360
four on fourth down.

753
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,199
Speaker 4: They probably should kick the field goal and just you know,

754
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:41,000
been a little bit more conservative. Whatever the OT win

755
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:42,880
versus U of A, that was a close one. By

756
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,760
the nick of you know, by the skin of our teeth.

757
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:46,800
We won that game.

758
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: The hair of your chinny chinchin. Yeah, by the hair

759
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,639
of the chinna chinchin. It was close one, you know

760
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:51,000
what I mean.

761
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,559
Speaker 4: So don't just walk into this pop Tarts bowl thinking, well,

762
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,079
there could be eighty five percentage gonna play and there

763
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,360
could be some opt out. We have Don McKenzie now,

764
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,519
and who's not necessarily a major contributor, but he's in

765
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,360
the portal. I don't know if there's any other portal

766
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,119
announcements that I've missed up to this point.

767
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: But Mason Waller Le Mason Waller's out. Yep. Yeah, he's

768
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,199
in the portal too. But he hasn't played a whole

769
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:15,800
lot this year.

770
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 9: L J.

771
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,639
Speaker 4: Martin hopped onto our show yesterday. He's in discovery mode.

772
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:20,719
He's getting feedback.

773
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,559
Speaker 1: He's trying to figure out whether or not he's going

774
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:27,440
to go to the league, or he's going to come

775
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,519
back and play, what his draft status is going to be,

776
00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:33,079
all those things. You want to hope that he plays

777
00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:35,320
right to finish off his career, et cetera. But you

778
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,679
never know, You never know.

779
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: I mean, Tyler Alsier came back for the UAB shree

780
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,400
Vegas Ball remember that.

781
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty sixteen, Jamal.

782
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 4: Williams, I want to say Jamal played. Jamal played right

783
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,079
against in the point Setia ball. Yep, yeah, so he played.

784
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,280
So the precedence has been set for NFL running backs

785
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,719
to go and play when they do have a draft status,

786
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,480
maybe secondary or third day draft status. So I wouldn't

787
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,679
say you're walking into that Georgia Tech game, you're just

788
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,960
gonna blow them out.

789
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:10,159
Speaker 7: This is this is probably not gonna be Colorado from

790
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,719
last year. Yeah, it's probably gonna be a closer game.

791
00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 4: Closer game, And you're going to the East Coast, You're

792
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,920
going to Florida, You'll be acclimated, you'll be ready to go,

793
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,840
it'll be good weather, et cetera. Hopefully, But uh, this

794
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,119
is Georgia Tech's backyard.

795
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: It's in Georgia Tech's backyard. Georgia Tech.

796
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,039
Speaker 4: By the way, let me pull up the twenty twenty

797
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,480
five College Football sp Plus rankings for Georgia Tech. They're

798
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,679
a good football team, obviously, twenty second in the country

799
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:37,840
per the College Football Playoff.

800
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,079
Speaker 1: Et cetera.

801
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,559
Speaker 4: As far as their their sp Plus. I'll get this

802
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on the other side. I'll give it to you on

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dot Com. One of the questions I may want to

833
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put out, uh Brett Hammer. I think something we talked

834
00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:01,199
about in the first segment is like under Aaron Rodericks.

835
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:04,079
Since Aaron Rodrick have arrived when in twenty eighteen as

836
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:08,079
the quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator. These are the quarterbacks

837
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,639
that have made it that have been coached by him,

838
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,400
and and so you list them off, Zach Wilson, right,

839
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:20,119
Jaren Hall, Keton Slovias h. Now you have you have

840
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,760
Jake retz Slaugh who's in the in the colle football playoff,

841
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,519
led tou Lane to an eleven and two season. So

842
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:27,320
it not he didn't just do it at BYU, Right,

843
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,800
Jake went over to tou Lane and made it to

844
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,480
the playoff and won a ton of games doing what

845
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:33,599
he does. Now you have bear Blockmeyer, Like, when do

846
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:36,239
you begin for all the A Rod haters? When do

847
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,519
you begin to give a Rod credit for recruiting, developing

848
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,320
and producing good quarterbacks? At what point do you give

849
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,239
him credit for all the haters? Does that make sense?

850
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:52,519
It's really hard, Like like you gotta give the guy

851
00:39:52,679 --> 00:39:55,679
some flowers. And he's a Broils Award finalist I think,

852
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,679
or a semi finalist.

853
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Like when do you give for the haters? I'm just

854
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,760
talking to later, when do you to give him some

855
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,840
credit for being a good He's got a good eye

856
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,480
for talent, he's got a good eye to he's got

857
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:12,679
a good scheme that produces that produces productivity, and so

858
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,400
he's good eye for talent and understands how to produce

859
00:40:16,679 --> 00:40:18,719
great quarterbacks that make it into the NFL.

860
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 7: Ben I said this earlier in the year on this

861
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,360
show there that there's two jobs that are consistently the

862
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,559
least popular jobs in America. The least popular person. Number

863
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:32,679
two is gonna be the President of the United States

864
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:34,800
when something goes wrong. That is going to be a

865
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,000
very unpopular person in your mind. And number number one

866
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,039
is the offensive coordinator at your favorite school.

867
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're always.

868
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,679
Speaker 7: Going to be under the I don't think I'm gonna

869
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,800
be honest, I don't think that there's there's something that's gonna,

870
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,880
you know, turn the haters into two a Rod lovers.

871
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Like if even even if you go when you know

872
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:59,639
you develop fair Bachmeer Rider Lions into into NFL quarterbacks,

873
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:01,239
they're gonna say, oh, it's the money. But at some

874
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,119
point in time you got to be like, yeah, but

875
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:06,239
he allocated the money in a good enough way to

876
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,639
be able to go get the good recruits, right Like

877
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:09,519
Aaron Roderick.

878
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,599
Speaker 1: I've laid this out a few times.

879
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,559
Speaker 7: Aaron Roderick had an offense this year that had two

880
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,239
new starting receivers, a new tight end, a new quarterback,

881
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,519
and I believe it's three new offensive linemen and way

882
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:30,280
less depth at running back and he improved the offense

883
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,119
from last year.

884
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,639
Speaker 1: That's insane. That never happens.

885
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,639
Speaker 7: Okay, that's the kind of thing that takes your twenty

886
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:40,920
sixteen offense to your twenty seventeen offense.

887
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: Or you just can't move the ball. Yeah, but Aaron

888
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:46,159
Aaron Roderick.

889
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 7: Was presented with that situation, said, Hey, I'm gonna get

890
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,079
you to the Big twelve title game?

891
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:51,679
Speaker 1: Like, how can you complain?

892
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 7: I understand you have two games where it did not

893
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,960
look good at all, and believe me, I do have

894
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,239
criticisms about those games, But you can't criticize what got

895
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:00,599
you there.

896
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can't.

897
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 7: You can't not believe in something that has consistently produced

898
00:42:06,679 --> 00:42:07,800
at a high level for you.

899
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. At what point do you give him credit?

900
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,239
Like that's all I'm asking. At what point do you say,

901
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,280
you know what, he's a good college football coach? Right?

902
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,320
At what point do you give it to him? Do

903
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,599
you give miss Flowers a little bit?

904
00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:19,039
Speaker 4: Like what has he got to do in order to

905
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:22,119
get Flowers from you, cougardation, What do you got for me?

906
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:23,360
Ronald the three man Weaver.

907
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, texted it to AP and I want to know

908
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,360
everybody's thoughts. I think he would get his first sign

909
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,679
of credit if Ryder lines brought a Big twelfth title,

910
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,360
you know, back to be back to the pro bo.

911
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 5: I think if Ryder balled.

912
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,199
Speaker 2: Out in the Big twelve championship game, you went up

913
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:39,599
against the Texas Tech again or whatever team is playing

914
00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,320
well that year, and you brought the Big twelfth title home,

915
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,800
and Ryder looked great and he threw, you know, for

916
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,840
two hundred, ran for another fifty, had two or three

917
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,400
total touchdowns, and then turned the ball over and the

918
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,599
offense was glooming. I think fans will give him credit then,

919
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,840
being because you got the quarterback, you won the trophy,

920
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,719
you bring it home like that.

921
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,639
Speaker 5: That's what it takes, you know, It takes.

922
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,559
Speaker 2: That type of I think performance to be able to

923
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:03,559
do that, because I think until then, I don't think

924
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:05,480
people are gonna give him credit. Bear could be the

925
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,119
one to do it too, but I even think then

926
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,480
of well, still the defense, I think it would take

927
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,239
a high level player, not saying Bear isn't that he

928
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,440
had offers, but I think a guy like Ryder if

929
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,320
he did that, I think fans would finally say, yeah, okay,

930
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,400
you get some credit for that.

931
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,639
Speaker 5: That's just my personal opinion.

932
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,039
Speaker 1: I do have a take though on this.

933
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,039
Speaker 7: I think that Colon I, despite the loss to Texas Tech,

934
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:31,280
I think that that week with Kolonie Satake's contract extension

935
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:35,760
is the most significant week I think going forward for BYU.

936
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,239
It's probably more significant in my mind than actually winning

937
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,159
the game. And I think it's I think that contract

938
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,440
in those details are going to be well unlocks Aaron

939
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:49,320
Rodgers offense going forward, because for the first time that

940
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,400
I can remember, by You admitted they're gonna spend money. Yeah,

941
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,920
like I never every time you hear the rumors, b

942
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:59,360
what you comes out and says those aren't real numbers.

943
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:01,079
Speaker 1: This time it came out.

944
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:05,599
Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, part of the contract is increased nil

945
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,320
increased facilities. And Kalanie Satake and Brian Santiago stood up

946
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,119
there and said, yeah, that's exactly what it is. We

947
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,519
are going to invest and with that you're gonna get

948
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:20,239
more consistently the bot mouly Talos and the Pula twins,

949
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,880
those type of recruits. You're gonna get good quarterbacks, great quarterbacks,

950
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,519
and that's gonna unlock Aaron Rodgers' offense because, to be

951
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:32,639
quite honest, the definition of doing more with less has

952
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,400
That's what Aaron Rodgers has had to do more than

953
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,960
anyone else, I feel like because the what he's had

954
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,960
to deal with on his offenses has not been elite

955
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,079
recruits until now.

956
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:45,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

957
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think real quick, because you brought them up,

958
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:55,400
Brian Santiago. I've I put out a quote from Kilani

959
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,320
from the post game. Uh, those that follow me on

960
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:03,360
x and on Instagram at crital Benjamin and then I

961
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:03,920
think it's been.

962
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,079
Speaker 1: Critical sports on Instagram. I need to just align those

963
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,840
with my usernames, apologize, just search me.

964
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: First of all, this is what Colli said. I was

965
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,400
trying to get an extension done. Way before that, we

966
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,559
were talking about extensions here. Okay, let's go and play

967
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:19,400
that sound real quick. Let's get that sound and we'll

968
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,000
just play it for you. And then I'm gonna react

969
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,119
to it because this is in regards to Brian Santiago

970
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,679
and fundraising, because Brian's been receiving some criticism, which, look,

971
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,719
when you're in a position of power. Whether you're a coach,

972
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,199
you're an administrator. When bad things happen the public, the media,

973
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,840
they're gonna point and say, hey, well that wasn't a

974
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,960
very good job, like you signed up for it.

975
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a part of it.

976
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: When I say something ridiculous and stupid, I get a

977
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,519
lot of people telling me how dumb and ridiculous I am.

978
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:52,719
I'm speaking into a microphone, my face is out there,

979
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,320
like you guys know who I am in the public.

980
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: You get. Look, I'm gonna say some good things. I'm

981
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,360
gonna say some smart things. I'm gonna say some dumb things.

982
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,800
It is what it is. I can't be perfect. I

983
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,480
can't bat a thousand when I opened my mouth. Okay,

984
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,880
so I don't.

985
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 4: Expect any coach, any player, and he administrated a bat

986
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,199
a thousand. So I'm going to defend Brian a little

987
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:13,719
bit here and the other individuals that were brokering this

988
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,320
deal with Kilani. But I'm also gonna give some some

989
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:18,559
you know, some love to Kilani as well.

990
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:19,199
Speaker 1: Let's tune in.

991
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,679
Speaker 4: Kilani in the post game with Gregor Bell and Hans Olsen,

992
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:26,239
said this about the contract extension and the potential distraction

993
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:29,159
that it was leading up into the Texas Tech game.

994
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:31,199
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I was trying to get the

995
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,440
extension done way way before, and even last year's extension

996
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,039
wasn't good enough. Like I want to be here for

997
00:46:37,079 --> 00:46:40,119
the long run, and you know, I asked for this

998
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:42,159
the stuff to be taken care of by the bye week.

999
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:44,519
It wasn't, and it lingered on and so I didn't

1000
00:46:44,519 --> 00:46:46,280
know if Bhyu was getting able to get that done.

1001
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,440
And and now that we got it done, it became

1002
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:52,239
it disrupted us for one day. And you know, I

1003
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,960
tried to avoid as much as I can as a

1004
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,920
head coach, but I don't make all the rules. And

1005
00:46:56,039 --> 00:46:57,960
I'm just glad that it got done eventually, you know,

1006
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,480
and that I'm going to be here for a long

1007
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,360
time and I don't ever have to plan about it leaving.

1008
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,320
This is where it's at.

1009
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: And and you know, I've been I've been, you know.

1010
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 6: Hans, you've been her humming for a long time, saying

1011
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,639
with you, Greg, this is what I've been looking for

1012
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:12,000
from the very beginning. So I'm sad that it came

1013
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,800
it became an issue for one day. I'm glad that

1014
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,519
our guys were able to focus and get and keep

1015
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:19,519
keep fighting along. But you know, we were trying to

1016
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:21,039
get this done a long time ago.

1017
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:22,519
Speaker 1: So.

1018
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: Klaude wanted it done by the bye week. Okay, and

1019
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,280
that's valid. I mean, he's undefeated going into the Texas

1020
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,280
Tech game. It's like, Hey, I just went eleven and

1021
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,639
two last year, huge Bowl victory over Colorado. I have

1022
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,719
my team undefeated right now heading into one of the

1023
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,519
toughest games in BAU football history. Texas Tech maybe the

1024
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,599
best team that BAYU has ever played ever. Like, name

1025
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:48,199
another team that's better than Texas Tech.

1026
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't.

1027
00:47:50,199 --> 00:47:52,559
Speaker 4: Some people say Miami nineteen ninety, and that very well

1028
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,679
could be a fact. But that Miami team was good,

1029
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,199
there's no doubt.

1030
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,159
Speaker 1: I think they ended up number three in the nation

1031
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,199
that year, so they were good, but they went they

1032
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:02,360
didn't win the Natty like Texas Tech is gonna that.

1033
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,559
Speaker 4: As what I'm saying, I'm telling you.

1034
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: You have to maybe put that out as a poll today.

1035
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,239
Can we put that out as a poll today? We'll

1036
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:08,599
do this.

1037
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,639
Speaker 4: Is Texas Tech the best team that BYU has ever

1038
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:15,039
played in BYU football history.

1039
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: I do have to say I think it is. I

1040
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,280
really do. I think it's the best team that BYU football,

1041
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,760
he's ever played in bya football history, Like I really

1042
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,199
believe that.

1043
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 7: And the encouraging thing is I feel like with Koloni

1044
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,800
Satake's contract, we're going to be investing in the same

1045
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,880
ballpark as Texas Tech, because we were not in the

1046
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,960
same ballpark in terms of investment, not even in nil or.

1047
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 4: I don't know about the coaching salaries and things of

1048
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,800
that nature. I'm not sure about that, but from now

1049
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,960
that's to that point, you're you're at ten million approximately

1050
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,079
and they were at twenty eight million.

1051
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 7: And and my only qualm with Texas Tech is that

1052
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,199
I said off the air with Ron and Brett and

1053
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,960
I believe, I believe we had someone on the headset

1054
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,760
that we're interviewing. I said, I said, you know, Texas

1055
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,199
Tech is my natty pick, and they kind of laughed

1056
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,559
at me a little bit, and then Texas Tech went

1057
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:03,360
out and lost to Arizona State the next day. So

1058
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,119
I never said that on air because I felt like

1059
00:49:05,159 --> 00:49:09,000
an idiot. And here we are, so I'm gonna say it.

1060
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,000
They are my natty pick. They're the natty pick ladies

1061
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:12,519
and gentlemen.

1062
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: I love it.

1063
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 4: It's a great take and I think they're gonna win

1064
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,840
it too, Like I think Georgia could be, you know,

1065
00:49:17,039 --> 00:49:19,280
give give them a run for their money. I think

1066
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,199
those top four teams are all elite. I think there's

1067
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,000
an argument you made for Oregon be an elite too.

1068
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,320
They're right there on kind of that great to elite

1069
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,440
status in my opinion. So, but that being said, I

1070
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:31,119
understand why Kloonie was trying to get this done. His

1071
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,800
agent was trying to get it done, and what was

1072
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,000
happening on the back end. Well, who actually makes the

1073
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,159
final call on how quickly by you can move in

1074
00:49:38,159 --> 00:49:40,920
in getting deals done. That decision on whether by in

1075
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Chautaki reach an expedited agreement does not rest only with

1076
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:47,559
the athletics leadership. Obviously, you have your operational leaders. Brian

1077
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:51,480
Santiago as the athletic director. Shane Reese is the president

1078
00:49:51,519 --> 00:49:53,360
of BYU. Keith or kink is the vice president of

1079
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,599
Advanceman who oversees athletics be what you're broadcasting. University of Communications, Alumni,

1080
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:00,840
External Relations and Philanthropies. Elder Clark Gilbert is the commission

1081
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,800
of the Church Educational System. He's probably going to be

1082
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,840
involved in some way, shape or form, any sort of

1083
00:50:06,159 --> 00:50:09,000
ftees to have to be hired, any sort of investment

1084
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,400
within the athletic department, etc.

1085
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to get on board with it.

1086
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 4: This group decides whether BYU competes in the marketplace with

1087
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:20,679
coaching salaries, staffing support andil infrastructure and program investment. That

1088
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,320
being said, the final authority belongs to who the BAU

1089
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,400
Board of Trustees. The board includes the First Presidency of

1090
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,159
the Church of Juis Christ and Laurday Saints, members of

1091
00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:31,800
the Corner of the Twelve Apostles, and other general authorities.

1092
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: And Church of officers.

1093
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,639
Speaker 4: Their alignment, their vision of the future, along with the

1094
00:50:35,639 --> 00:50:39,760
core four figures listed above, determine how quickly deals get

1095
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,559
done with the AD. So I don't put it all

1096
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:43,440
on Brian Santiago's what I'm getting at.

1097
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: Everyone is right now because of that. I get it

1098
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:49,360
like he's the AD, he's the face.

1099
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,199
Speaker 4: But I also think if Shane and Keith and Elder

1100
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,280
Gilbert were made aware that Killane was asking for an excess,

1101
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,960
I imagine they were made aware at that time and

1102
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:04,320
they didn't go to bat, they didn't step up. They

1103
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,079
are we talking about pie chart of accountability here, don't

1104
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:08,880
we That's what we do here at at Koger.

1105
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,039
Speaker 1: We do high chart accountability. We've been doing it.

1106
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 4: I launched it back in two thousand and eight, two

1107
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,079
thousand and eleven when we when we really launched this show,

1108
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:21,039
we talked pie charted accountability. All those guys deserve a

1109
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:23,000
piece of the pie, and you can't just put it

1110
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:27,360
on Brian Santiago's what I'm getting at. Furthermore, that fundraising

1111
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,360
effort that probably went on in those twenty four to

1112
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,079
forty eight hours when the Penn State News dropped.

1113
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: Okay, you know Crumble coming off the bench, Stay Crumbles,

1114
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,000
stay hungry. You know whoever else was involved, all the

1115
00:51:43,039 --> 00:51:45,760
different corporate sponsorships that wanted Killania to be the head

1116
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,280
of the program, they all stepped up like, look, what

1117
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:49,800
do we need to do to keep Koalania? And what

1118
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,239
do we need to do to make sure that he

1119
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:52,960
stays for a long time, as well as how do

1120
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:56,000
we support him and his his staff as well as

1121
00:51:56,039 --> 00:51:59,800
the players. There is certain that, look, I hate to

1122
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,719
say it, but sometimes we all have to be a

1123
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,800
little bit leaverridged the Leaverridge and we got there was

1124
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:07,519
there was something.

1125
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 4: I don't think bou would have moved as fast as

1126
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,679
they did unless there was leverage. I hate to say it,

1127
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:18,320
but remarkably done by Coloney's agent because when push came

1128
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,039
to shove, we all they had to accelerate the timeline

1129
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:22,960
and they got it done.

1130
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:23,599
Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

1131
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 4: Remember how quick the k Why deal got done. Oh,

1132
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:32,679
I mean it got done fast. We had to get

1133
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,000
it done then, Shane, Keith, Elder, Kilbert, Bryan, they got

1134
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,599
it done.

1135
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: Tom at the time, Tom I think was still involved,

1136
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:44,559
or he'd be in Brooklyn. They got it done because hey,

1137
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:45,800
we're gonna lose him.

1138
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:50,159
Speaker 4: Okay, now there's a burning in the bosom. There's burning

1139
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,639
on my booty, you know what I mean? They both raves,

1140
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,559
you know what I mean. It's just like poking you

1141
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:57,119
a little bit. So anyway, I don't know if there's

1142
00:52:57,159 --> 00:52:59,559
an ad out there that can raise money as fast

1143
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:01,920
as Brian Santiago. So give him his flowers as well,

1144
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,519
because he got he got it done and retained his guy.

1145
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,000
Even though, yeah, dude, I think he should have got

1146
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:09,880
done faster. Sure, I think Shane and Keith and Elder,

1147
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,039
Gilbert and everybody else involve probably should have been like, hey,

1148
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:13,719
maybe we should get this done a little bit faster,

1149
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,920
right right, rather than waiting until the end of the

1150
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,880
season to get it done.

1151
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 7: And I want to add to this, every other position

1152
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,280
at BYU. BYU fans seem to give the person of

1153
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,840
authority a little bit of a grace growing period, Like

1154
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,760
when when things were not going well at the beginning

1155
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,480
of the year last year with basketball, we're going, oh,

1156
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:35,679
Kevin Young is getting adjusted to the college game. Give

1157
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,360
him a little bit of time, guys, this is still

1158
00:53:38,519 --> 00:53:42,920
We're not one year into a Brian Santiago's time at BYU.

1159
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,639
He's got to have he's got to learn how to

1160
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,199
how to be in an athletic director. I understand he's

1161
00:53:48,199 --> 00:53:51,360
been part of it, but from my understanding, he hasn't

1162
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,880
really been over football. It's been basketball for the most part.

1163
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,000
I'm sure he's had things to do with football and things,

1164
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:59,159
but you've got to give him a little bit of

1165
00:53:59,159 --> 00:53:59,960
a growing period.

1166
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: Gotta get them as flowers, just like you gotta give

1167
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,320
a rod. Look, you're not gonna have a perfect AD,

1168
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,880
You're not gonna have a perfect GOC. You're not gonna

1169
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,000
have a perfect DC You're not gonna have perfect head coach, right,

1170
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:12,840
You're not have perfect players, but you're you're moving to

1171
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,519
that direction, is what I'm getting at here.

1172
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: So you gotta be grateful. Tis the season to be giving, Tess.

1173
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,519
Is the season to be grateful.

1174
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,039
Speaker 4: And by the way, guys, that the road Home is

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in need of your help right now. ESPN the Fan

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of the Rocky Mountain Chevy Dealers invite you to help

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road Home dot org. Let's take a time out, we'll

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be back getting into a little Cougar beat with Tad

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Walch of the Desrat News. This is Cougar Sports on

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one O three nine ninety eight point three esp