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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice,

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mix in some vodka. Call it a podcast from the

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mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by

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Victor Chrysler Dots. Gee Rahm, It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on.

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the

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word about the pirate ship. I hope everybody had a

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great Thanksgiving weekend. I don't know if anybody else is

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feeling I'm like feeling overwhelmed on stuff. You know, we're

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in this new studio and I need to kind of

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get some things settled in. Like, these guys are so

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fantastic at the mac of All Trades building. If you

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need anything done, you got to go to Macaball Trades.

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They're just fantastic. Fund them online and macaball Trades dot net.

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But they came in and repainted the wall, so everything's

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gathered around our table. You really can't see it. And

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then I'm debating what stays what goes, and I mean school,

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and I got it's like right now all the projects

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are due, all the projects that everybody's talked about and

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felt so far off, and there's I mean, I don't

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know how I'm gonna get all this done. I don't

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even Sometimes you ever wonder where you go? What did

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I do? And I feel like I somehow bit off

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more than I can chew, which is typical for me.

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And then of course I self sabotage myself in other areas.

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They usually involve I don't know, alcohol a little bit,

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a little bit, but I'm getting better at that. And

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I got to tell you, like, there's so many things

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that I want to do, especially now that we're in

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this new space and school stuff, and I feel like

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I'm starting to figure it out now if I can,

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I mean all of it. You know what it means.

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It means I can't really go have fun anymore. But

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I mean, this is just to give you an example

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of how overwhelmed. Like. I'm in the shower today and

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I'm talking to myself, not like a schizophrenic person who

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actually sees someone there and is having a conversation. I'm

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just like thinking out loud. And I washed my hair

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twice because I couldn't remember, and on the second time,

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oh god, I already did this. And then I leave

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the house and I get in the car and go.

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I left my phone inside and then I can't find it,

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and I got my kid called. I mean, you know

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what I'm saying, It's like all these little things. And

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I thought Adderall would correct that stuff. But maybe I

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need a higher dose. I don't really know. But speaking

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of fun over the long holiday weekend, of course, there

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is the legendary Macy's Day Parade, and today's guest once

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got college credit for waking up at three am to

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listen to me talking to a microphone. And some how

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after that trauma, she still wanted to work in entertainment

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and she still actually talks to me. Hello, Alex, Hi,

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So I'm great. Alex was involved this year in the

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production would that be fair to say of the of

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the Macy's Day Parade, the legendary Macy's Day Parade, And

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she let me know that she was doing this and said, hey,

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if you want, I can get you in up close

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to the balloons. So my son and I and along

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with my brother and his family went down on Wednesday

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and they went to the rock Cats. Everything got delayed,

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delayed in the morning, we didn't get out of there

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in time. It was all this stuff it might have

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been my fault. I think I was doing a project

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for school and I ran a little over. So when

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we get there, they went to the rock Cats, and

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James and I went uptown to the west side to

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see the balloons, and Alex just got us through. I mean,

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the police would go eight and then she's like, now

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they're with me. And it was so cool to walk

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in and we're like in the residential area. I think

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there were residential streets right, yeah, that people were waiting

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hours to get into the balloons and we just right

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in there. And how I know that was like it

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felt I was like first class treatment. And it was

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amazing to me to see how big those balloons are

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in person. They're huge. And if I were really good

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at this podcasting thing, I would have video rolling right

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now as we're talking about it. But I didn't do

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that only because I i it required an extra step

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I didn't have time for today. I was doing invoice

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all kinds of shit anyway.

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Speaker 3: Added to the social teas.

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Speaker 2: Later, Yeah, I will, but it was so cool. And

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a fifteen year old son, and you know, having had

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a fifteen year old son yourself that they're not impressed

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by a whole lot, And in the end, I think

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he really had a lot of fun. He was disappointed

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because he really wanted to go to Chinatown to some store,

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and I'm like, buddy, it's an over an hour, maybe

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an hour and a half to get from the Upper West.

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Speaker 3: Hide, especially that day, like that weekend, there's a lot

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of trains shut down. You know, I don't think people realize,

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like the parade is a huge to do, obviously, but

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it literally shuts down the entire city. Trains get rerouted

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and streets are closed and you can't walk through where

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you normally would be able to just all in pursuit

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of this big event, which is, you know, spectacular and awesome,

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but it's also you know, a bit of a pain

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to kind of navigate. And a lot of people will

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use Google Maps and stuff to get around the city

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if you're not from here, which is very helpful on

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a normal day, but when there's a big event in town,

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the marathon or the parade or something like that, it's

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just kind of much harder to navigate. Google Maps hasn't

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caught up with the closures yet, so you know.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about that, because I mean, when when

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did you join the Macy's Day Parade team.

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Speaker 3: I joined the team in September, end of September. I've

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only been doing it for like two months proper.

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Speaker 2: How long are they planning this parade?

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Speaker 3: Oh, they start like planning starts for them, especially this

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year because next year is the one hundredth anniversary, so

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they'll start planning for next year right now, right now,

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because it takes so it's so much bigger, I think

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than people even realize, because not only is it a

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televised TV show produced by NBC, it's also a giant

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public event with one of like the largest volunteer programs

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in the country. So it's a live event plus a

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televised event together. So I just think people don't realize

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the scale. So you imagine it's like an entire team

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at NBC who handles their portion of it, and then

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there's an entire team at Macy's who handles theirs, and

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obviously like teams within those teams. It's a giant to

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do more than I even thought it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm thinking, like, you have to close down streets,

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the balloons are filled up Wednesday, when do they get

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in place, are they put in place like Wednesday morning.

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Speaker 3: The cool thing that I don't think a lot of

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people know is that Wednesday night, around three o'clock in

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the morning, they do what's called the convoy and they

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bring all of the balloons and floats because they live

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in New Jersey in these studios and warehouses, and they

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bring them all over the night before around three o'clock

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in the morning, and it is it's probably like it's

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like a parade within the parade, because there's the city

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electricians come out ahead of the trucks and they swing

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all the light poles out of the way all who

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Speaker 2: My god, I wouldn't. I don't know why I never.

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Speaker 3: Thought of that, neither did I. Like, as the floats

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and balloons coming down, they're swinging the light poles out

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of the way all the way down uh to I

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think about sixty sixty sixth Street or something like that,

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which means nothing to. But then about I think seven

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eight o'clock in the morning, they start flowing the helium

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because they want all the inflation teams out there in

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the little jumpsuits. Because it is it's community event. A

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lot of people come to see it.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to get at that hour in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Yes, six seven more because it takes you know, there's

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so it takes, you know, a certain amount of time.

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what the one you came to. It's called Inflation Day

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and it's a community event and they want people to

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get an experience, so they kind of stagger the way

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they inflate the balloons so that the press can get

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their shots and the public can see each phase of

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are upset that their balloon is already inflated when they

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were just dying, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they wanted to see it happen.

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Speaker 3: They wanted to see it happen and get there and

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it's already done. Yeah, but it's it just is it was.

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I've worked on some cool projects in my career. This

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was probably number one. I mean, just in terms of everything.

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up to Wednesday when I saw you was very much

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like spreadsheets and logistics, and that's the world I was

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in budgets, you know what I mean, nothing like ooh,

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this is fun and creative. And then you get there

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and it's like wow, just wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just the coordination of closing off the

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streets and rerouting people and setting it up so people

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can walk by and see these things, and you're still

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dealing with people who live on these streets that are

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absolutely you know, trying to grocery shop and navi gate

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getting back to their home. And you know what I mean,

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it's like there's so many layers. The light poles, light poles,

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excuse me, I would have never thought of. And it's

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that's just one aspect, right, but that's.

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Speaker 3: One tiny aspect. And then you have all of the partnerships.

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Who who is going to have a float in this

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year's parade? Who is going to be the celebrity that's

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going to be on that float? What are the costumes

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going to look like?

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Speaker 2: Who is that your job to find out to get

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the celebrity to be get on there?

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Speaker 3: That is not my department. I was very much operation.

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So what I was saying, Macy's job to find the

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celebrities that that you know, want to do it, and

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you know, kind of figure out what makes sense for

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the year for the A lot of people were really

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like confused about the celebrities this year, Busta Rhymes and

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Lil John and Debbie Gibson and Jewel. And you have

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to think the people that are at home watching this

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parade and cooking their things Thanksgiving dinner are very much

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my age and your age, and those are the people

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that performed the buster Arms was not when we were younger.

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of course it makes sense because back in the day

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they used to cater it to your mom, who you know,

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was the one making Thanksgiving dinner. And so they had

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celebrities that made sense for them. And so I think

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they do a really good job and they get a

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lot of good partnerships, like they got Pop Martin this year.

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So they had the la boo boos, and you know

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that's obviously craze that I I understand, But don't a

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la boo boo.

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Speaker 4: You've never heard of one, do you remember?

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Speaker 3: In French they're these little like toys. They're stuffed animal

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toys and they have like a little gremlin face. I'll

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send you a picture of them, but they are so popular.

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They are everywhere. Anybody with kids, Ask your son about

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La Boo Boo. He knows about it. And they're huge

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this year and they have sold out everywhere. It's I

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kind of it's kind of like a beanie baby, like

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what we used to do with remember those collectible beanie babies,

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or like the troll dolls. They had the crazy hair.

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That's kind of what it is. And you have to

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have one in every color, and they have special ones

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that you can only collect in certain places and you

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can trade them and they're worth money. It's crazy, but

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it's a craze that happened, and they were able to

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pull off a partnership this year and do a whole

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float and everything else. So it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Does it cost money for people to be in the parade,

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like the a company.

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it's sponsored many of them, so like the Wind float

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and the Hallmark float, all those are obviously sponsored by

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you know whoever's name is on it. The teenage meeting

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every year. The creative team spend a lot of time

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trying to figure out, like what makes sense, what's going

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to make for a fun show, what kind of Broadway

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elements should we have? All those things. The Rockets had

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to do something extra special because this is their one

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hundredth years. Just all these tiny little elements, and then

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the opening act, this Cynthia Arrivo, really what people don't

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know is came together very last minute, like within a

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couple of weeks. It was decided that she was going

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to be the one. She's the one her wicket, and

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it was decided very last minute they were going to

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do this whole open and they pulled it off fully.

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I mean it's just like the way this machine works

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is extraordinary, and this is a team that's prepared for everything.

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I mean everything. We got two different sets of rain

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gear to wear, like one was reflective if we were

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going to be out at night and the other one

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was just regular because if it rains, they want you

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to be protected. I have worked on a thousand shows.

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I don't know what happens if it rains. We get

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a text message it's gonna rain. They are just they

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are prepared. Hats and gloves and everything you can possibly

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think of. They have it there to make this thing happen.

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And the two companies, Macy's and NBC work so seamlessly

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together to like pull this off and make this happen.

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And yes, there's a lot of frustration, there's a lot

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of hang ups. There's a lot of things that like,

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oh no, that went wrong. It poured all night of rehearsal,

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and we were like, no, it can't rain tomorrow for

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the parade, because the parade will happen. But then we

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have to go dry out every balloon and every costume,

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and you know what I mean, it's it's stuff you

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don't even think about.

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Speaker 2: Like all night long, you'd have to drive them back.

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Speaker 3: So last year it rained and they had to go

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in Friday and to the warehouse and have every balloon

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spread out and fans everywhere, and every costume drive because

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you can't put those things away wet because the.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So just like you have to think in any circumstance,

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if it's too windy and they can't fly a balloon

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because of what happened with Barney, they have to think

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about all.

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Speaker 2: What happened with Barney.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety four nineteen eighty six, the Barney Balloon

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got caught in a wind gust and went crazy and

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like was going to injure some people. And I guess

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a few years before that they had had a balloon

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take down a light pole and kill someone whoa so

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the cops had to like they had to bring the

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balloon down. They had these their balloons around these lines.

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They had to wind the balloon down, but in order

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to get it down fast enough so when killed so

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when it hurt somebody, they were like stabbing it to

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get the air out of it. So watching little kids

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start watching literally watching me and yp back into Barney.

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Speaker 2: This is so oh god, that's so funny. Well, I

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do remember reading a little bit about the parade with

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my family this year because because my brother did go,

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he stayed in the city. I didn't want to deal

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with the crowds. I guess I was a bit of

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a whim to do that. Do that, But uh, what's that?

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I told, Yeah, I know, but I also knew, Like

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I think my mom was disappointed because my my brother

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told her not to go to the city because her

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ankle's bothered her and she's so I think she was

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a little put off by that. So I said to her,

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I will come home. I will come back to your

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house with Jamison, and she and I actually went out

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that night for Oh Wow Yeah, and Rynebeck was popping.

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At one point. There's this really cool bestro that I

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liked there, and it got so overrun that I felt

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like I was in a sorority house.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: It was all these young girls and they're like, ah,

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and as I'm watching this and don't forget I'm an

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old guy. Now I'm I'm watching this, and I go,

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it's honey, you're trying too hard. It was like these

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girls like like it was kind of chilli. It was like, hey,

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maybe thirty five, forty maybe, I don't know. They're in

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open back stuff and they're holding their purse just right,

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and they're excited to some people and they're pretending they

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don't see other ones. And I don't know who they're

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pretending not to see, but I know you're pretending not

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to see somebody, and it was I go, god, it

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it's likeugh, I'm so glad I'm not that age anymore.

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And they're young college kids and they'll go through the stuff.

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At one point, though, there was a girl and I

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turned and her ass was like right, in my face.

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And I had never seen these angel jeans. It was

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almost like a tramp stamp on the waist of the jeans.

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Had not seen them.

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Speaker 3: You were close.

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Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't help it. I didn't go anywhere. I

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was just sitting there as I'm I'm trying to eat

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my barbecue duck taco. That's the kind of restaurant this

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is as an appetite, were in a glass of wine,

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and I finally said to my mother, we have to go,

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and so we went over to a wine bar where

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it wasn't much better. But my mom's like, oh, I

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love it here and they and they had a DJ

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and it's still't dn't dump dump dump, And I'm like,

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this isn't this isn't me and she's like, oh, I

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think it's great. I'm like, you think it's fucking like

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God Jesus. But anyway, I didn't We sat at the

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wind bar. But so I didn't stay in New York.

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And that was part of the reason why I know

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when we were reading about the parade. I think in

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the early years they used to let the balloons go afterward,

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and then we used to have.

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Speaker 3: A bunch of them that they would release.

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Speaker 2: At the end, yeah, at the end, and then I

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think it was like the nineteen thirties, which I can't

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I don't know what aviation was like then, but it

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cost a plane crash. I think. I'm pretty sure if

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you look it up when they stopped really seeing the

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balloons because a plane crashed.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. So the fun fact about that balloon release

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is back in the day, if you found one of

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those balloons that had flown away in the bouquet and

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brought it back to Macy's, you would get one hundred

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dollars credit.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Hey, no, right, So think about like in the twenties

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and thirties.

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Speaker 2: That's that's an entire outfit. I mean that, that's an

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entire wardrobe. Excuse me.

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Speaker 3: What they don't tell you in the introduction is why

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they stopped doing it. That's hilarious.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that we saw that online that it

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caused a plane crash in the nineteen thirties. And all

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I was thinking was, like, I don't know what aviation

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was like in the nineteen thirties in terms.

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Speaker 3: Of oh, yeah, that's true, Like was it.

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Speaker 2: Jets are we still dealing with? You know? Was it

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Snoopy to fly, Yes, Snoopy in the red baron. What

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are we doing here? What are we called? We're in

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a byplane. I have no idea because I'm going to

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kind of a cold time of year, so I'm assuming

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it was a jet and I thought it was nineteen

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thirty six, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the course a lot of lore about. There's a

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lot of I mean, obviously one hundred years, there's a

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lot a lot of lore. But I did the best

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one I found so far that went viral, and the

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team was The other day, I was on Instagram and

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I saw a video of a guy who was like,

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the twenty twenty Macy's Thanksgiving Parade happened, but not the

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way you thought it did. And then he launched into

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this whole explanation that actually the COVID pandemic and the

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shutdown of the city was pre planned because we have

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aliens that we found on Venus hidden beneath the Herald

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Square toilet, and that we used the Macy's Thanksgiving Day

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balloons as trojan horses to finally move these aliens out

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of the city. Because in twenty twenty, obviously the parade

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was scaled down they did a small live event on

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Thanksgiving Day, but like all the major elements were kind

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of pre taped over a couple of days, so it

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wasn't the parade like normal. But this, this conspiracy was

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that we used the balloons to transport aliens that we

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had found in the fifties out of the city.

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Speaker 2: Then it's freaking crazy, crazy, absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm watching the video and you definitely got sucked

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in because the narration was like it didn't happen the

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way you thought it did. And I was like, Okay,

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what's the conspiracy and he said, I mean.

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Speaker 2: The Trojan horse theory. Hold a little water. I'm just saying,

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I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Those are big balloons, and on the size of these aliens,

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how many fit in there.

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Speaker 2: It's really really funny.

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Speaker 3: I could just imagine, like Tina at the studio, like

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shoving aliens.

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Speaker 2: I always wonder why got to get this done? Guys,

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I don't know. Our alien's supposed to be more evolved

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than we are as humans, like some of their technology

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and things are more evolved than us.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the theory because we can't imagine that

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that like, by the time they reach us, we can't

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imagine that, Like, the technology that it would have taken

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to get here has to be more advanced than anything

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we have because we haven't found them yet. No, but

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every like they've always been here. Like think about the ocean.

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We've explored like twelve percent of it. There's got to

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be something in there. It's like three quarters of the planet. Yeah,

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you know what I mean, you're told me there's not

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something in there.

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Speaker 4: There's something in there.

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Speaker 2: But the weird part to me is every alien I've

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ever seen has no muscle tone, right, it doesn't. Well,

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I mean there's no muscle tone there like these.

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Speaker 3: Can you get ripped in the vacuum of space?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. No, you can't. Your muscle's atrophy. You

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need gravity.

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Speaker 3: There, you have it.

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Speaker 2: Gravity, We've got that. Oh we got gravity. And you

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got to lift heavy things and make you know, use

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that body of yours. You're going to start looking like

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an alien. You don't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, not, definitely not.

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Speaker 2: Uh tell me about like I thought you said earlier

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that the celebrities are selected by Macy's but not the

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company that's paying for the float. Is that true?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It's kind of a well, it's kind

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of a partnership for both, Like the Macy's creative team

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will take like there's a whole plan because obviously every

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float is a story, every balloon is you know what

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I mean. It's not just like, oh, I want you know,

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Snoopy in this year. It has to be a whole

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story for the brand. What why is Snoopy in the

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bread this year? Well, because it's you know, seventy five

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years of Charlie Brown Christmas and whatever is relevant for Snoopy? Right,

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And then it's okay, well what makes sense for who

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should represent Snoopy? Who makes the most sense or who's

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you know, along the line up, Like where's Snoop is

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in the parade? What would be fun for you know

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people to see what kind of a performance? And then

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it's you know, it's a lot of back and forth.

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It's like we think it should be you know, Heart,

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and then it's like, oh, no, Hearts doesn't make sense

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because they're an old band, and it's like, well then

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maybe it should be some K pop thing. It's like,

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well they're maybe too new. So it's a lot of

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back and forth and they find somebody in the middle

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that fits and lo and behold Thanksgiving Days Stebbie Gibson

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or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, the K Pop Demon Hunters were. They

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were in.

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Speaker 3: There, they were and that is the first time ever

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that those three women have performed together. Wow, because they're

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recorded separately and put together, So they had to get

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together to make sure they could sing together. Because it's

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not hard to sing a separate track and then have

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a producer come in and put it all together and

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harmonize it with you know, all kinds of tools. It's

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a much different thing to be together and to be singing.

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And even if they're singing pre recorded, you would still

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want to have a sense of what it would be

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like to perform with these people. You wouldn't want to

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do it, you know, you would want the time to

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00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,839
you know, otherwise people would know, and that kind of

476
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,839
ruins the fantasy a little bit.

477
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:15,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe it or not. Know nothing about the

478
00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:18,039
K Pop Demon Hunters other than they they know anything

479
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,680
that they exist. And I hear the show is from adults.

480
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,680
They go, Yeah, as far as the kids show, it's

481
00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:27,720
they love it.

482
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,079
Speaker 3: It's the biggest thing Netflix has done yet, which doesn't

483
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,400
surprise me. I've worked with a couple of K pop

484
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,799
groups in different capacities, And one time we did an

485
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:40,640
interview with this K pop group it'sy, and they had

486
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,400
to be brought into the studio for their interview, like

487
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:45,440
in their van because they can't get out on the

488
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,400
street and walk into a building because they just get

489
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,960
mobbed by fans. So they had to drive them in

490
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,000
and then bring the van up and then let them

491
00:25:52,039 --> 00:25:54,240
out inside like it's a giant warehouse, and then we

492
00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:57,640
did the interview like the back corner. But yeah, they

493
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,880
it's they are a sensation and all the young kids

494
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,480
know about them and they just like them and you know,

495
00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:06,240
for them to that's another one, like the PopMart one,

496
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,920
the Demon Hunters. The fact that they got a whole

497
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:14,240
balloon and a performance in the parade this year's you know, wow,

498
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:15,519
it's impressive.

499
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,559
Speaker 2: It is impressive. Now, what was your role at the

500
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:21,599
parade itself?

501
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:25,599
Speaker 3: I was as I was working as a part of

502
00:26:25,599 --> 00:26:28,640
the operations team, so I was helping to do like

503
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,400
kind of all the logistical things, like all roads lead

504
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,119
through operations. We were the ones making sure that the

505
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,160
light pole guys knew what time to be out there

506
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,000
to swing the light poles and to make sure that

507
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,079
you know, everything was was in working order ahead of time.

508
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,440
So we're doing like a lot of walkthroughs with them

509
00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:48,680
to check electricity and things like that, working with all

510
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,680
the city agencies from the NYPD to the FD and

511
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:54,759
Y to the you know, to the Mayor's office to

512
00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:57,640
make sure that you know, the street closures and subway

513
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,799
closures and the amount of secure and things we're going

514
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,839
to need line up with what our expectations will be

515
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,039
for the parade. So there's a ton of meetings of

516
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,440
those agencies to talk about everything, and in addition to

517
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,880
the NYPD, we also hire several independent security teams. It's

518
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,119
one of the most secure events. Like the day before Tuesday,

519
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,359
I was out at the warehouse finishing up some last

520
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,000
minute packing that was for stuff that was going to

521
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,160
be shipped out to the Upper West Side on Wednesday,

522
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,039
and the security guard pulls up this is sweetheart. He

523
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,720
was like, are you guys going to be done soon?

524
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,519
And I said yeah, I think so. He's like, well,

525
00:27:33,559 --> 00:27:35,599
the Poored Authority is on their way, so you guys

526
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,640
got to get out of here. So the day before

527
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:41,279
Tuesday they close down the warehouse and completely secure it,

528
00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,839
and the poor authority goes in and completely sweeps every balloon,

529
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,759
every bin, every float for everything you can think of,

530
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,160
explosives and what and they make sure and then when

531
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,279
they come through the convoy, they're flanked by police like

532
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,640
through the Lincoln Tunnel and everything to make sure that

533
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,720
there's no traffic compeding them and they get to where

534
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,720
they got go on time. So our team gets all

535
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,440
those little measures in place with all these departments.

536
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: Then we also things.

537
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 3: Like toilets and signage and you know, fencing and things

538
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:17,000
like that. And then our department also handles the volunteers

539
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,799
the balloon program. Anybody that you see underneath the balloon

540
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:23,000
holding it is a volunteer, and we're the ones that

541
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,000
kind of run that program. Make sure the volunteers know

542
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,480
how to fly the balloons for safety. Make sure you

543
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:30,960
know how.

544
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,319
Speaker 2: Do you become a volunteer for that.

545
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,519
Speaker 3: So a lot of the volunteers have been there for

546
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,640
a really long time and they will sponsor someone or

547
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,960
if you work at Macy's, you can volunteer to hold

548
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,680
a balloon. So usually like get in from someone you know.

549
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,960
It's not as difficult as you think. And there also

550
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,160
is an application process. It's easier to get in if

551
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,039
you have someone who can sponsor you. But I will

552
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:59,079
say from working with these people, you know, they are

553
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:03,119
the most passionate human beings on the Some of them

554
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,319
have been doing parades longer than I've been alive. Wow,

555
00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:10,640
and I'm not young. And they love it and they

556
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,480
know all the history. And we went and did this

557
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:15,279
thing at the Today Show and they were the only

558
00:29:15,319 --> 00:29:17,440
ones on our team work in the crowd and giving

559
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,200
the kids the balloon to hold, and they love this

560
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:23,640
show and they love being a part of it. Was

561
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,920
fun to It's fun because sometimes in the entertainment industry

562
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,279
you can get jaded. You can be around every celebrity,

563
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:34,920
you can get backstage access to whatever you want, and

564
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,480
then suddenly you're too cool for school. It's very refreshing

565
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:41,920
to see somebody excited about something the way they were

566
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,599
the very first time. It makes you It made me

567
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,480
more excited, you know. Wow. This actually is so in

568
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:53,559
life changing for people, you know what I mean. They

569
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,759
love this and I get it because I just did

570
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:57,640
it and I loved it too.

571
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,359
Speaker 2: That's uh. But the day of the parade, what were

572
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:03,240
you doing? Timing?

573
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: Yeah? So my job the day of the parade was pacing.

574
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,799
So there's a time when the float or balloon or

575
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:14,720
performing group leaves the starting line, and then there's a

576
00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,240
time that they have to be at thirty fourth Street,

577
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:21,720
Harold Square to do their performance for the cameras. So

578
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,599
I was in real time putting in every time somebody

579
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,960
left the starting line so that the people at NBC

580
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:30,799
could go, Okay, it's eight ten, they're supposed to be

581
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,920
at nine fourteen, they're two minutes early, they're three minutes late,

582
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,640
so that along the route they can be held up

583
00:30:36,759 --> 00:30:39,920
or sped up as needed so that they still arrive

584
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:42,720
in Harold Square at the time they're supposed to do

585
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,640
for their on camera performance, and everything runs smooth as silk.

586
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,680
But I had the best seat in the house. I

587
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,640
saw every single thing go by.

588
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

589
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,839
Speaker 3: It was amazing. I was like, thank you for giving

590
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,839
me this job today. I could have had any job.

591
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: I could have been directing crowds.

592
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: I didn't see the full parade. I don't think was

593
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:09,400
Jimmy in it. Found he was not, and I.

594
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: Think it's because he had just done his show and

595
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:14,640
that they might not have had time to get a

596
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,240
performance together. For him with the roots and everything, because

597
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:18,759
you know, he just come off as he just did

598
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:19,680
a reality show.

599
00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: Like a oh that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

600
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,160
I did see a little bit of that, yeah, because

601
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,559
I have a friend who usually would go down and

602
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:32,240
he wasn't going this year, but he didn't say whether

603
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:34,000
Jimmy would be in it or not, so I didn't know,

604
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,960
and I figured NBC it's a great opportunity to.

605
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: Get yeah, yeah, no. This year they had like they

606
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880
had a couple of people from SNL Bowen Yang and

607
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,640
Matt Rodgers if you know them, the La Culture Recent, Yes,

608
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,039
and they were in the front row, you know, as

609
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,960
special guests.

610
00:31:50,039 --> 00:31:53,559
Speaker 2: I did see a friend of mine who wrote some

611
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,000
pop culture stuff on there, and he said he was

612
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,640
getting geared up for the people who were gonna be

613
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,440
upset by bow and Yang coming out and the person's

614
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:07,960
changing the word the lyrics from her to him and

615
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,880
then kissing Bowen Yang's hand, and he said, I was

616
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,000
waiting for social media to explode and no one said anything,

617
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:18,160
and I was like, good because it just doesn't it

618
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:18,799
doesn't mean like.

619
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: All the thing, like everybody just shut up already.

620
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,759
Speaker 2: It's uh, but you had record numbers this year. Record numbers, right, we.

621
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,599
Speaker 3: Had record numbers thirty four million. As of a couple

622
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,680
of days ago, Variety reported we had thirty four million viewers. Yeah,

623
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,640
it's pretty and last year there were three point five

624
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,720
million in person, so I'm sure we broke that record

625
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,319
this year. I don't know what the actual numbers were.

626
00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:47,160
I'll probably find out tomorrow, but it's it feels like

627
00:32:47,319 --> 00:32:49,960
such an incredible accomplishment, Like I'm hoping we win the

628
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,480
Emmy now because that would be amazing. Okay, So it

629
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:55,160
just it does it feels.

630
00:32:54,839 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: Like what category of Emmy.

631
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: It's like, uh, televised special. I think it is okay,

632
00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:06,759
But last year they gave it to the Disney Parade,

633
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,559
which I found very interesting because because you figured, like

634
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:11,880
thirty four million people are watching the amazing preade this year?

635
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,839
Who was watching the Disney Praade. It doesn't matter, it

636
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,880
doesn't matter. I'm not on the Emmy committee, it doesn't matter.

637
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,480
But I would like to win.

638
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got to think, like even high school bands

639
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,519
that come in, it's such a big deal. When do

640
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,599
they start applying for that?

641
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:31,119
Speaker 3: Now they they know three years in advance. Wow, going

642
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,839
to be in the perade because you have to imagine

643
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,519
they have to fundraise, they have to get ye. Sure,

644
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,599
there are three hundred kids. They have fund raise the

645
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:39,599
hotel rooms.

646
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: I'll pissed you if you're like a sophomore, and then

647
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,720
you know the next two year, you're out. You're out.

648
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: You didn't get It's so funny. The kids were rehearsing

649
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,480
and one of the marching bands comes in and it's

650
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:54,319
miserable and it's it's pouring down rain. But they have

651
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:56,200
to do their full rehearsal because this is really the

652
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,319
only chance they get to do it before showtime. And

653
00:33:58,359 --> 00:33:59,960
you just want to make sure you like no where

654
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,839
to go when you get your thirty fourth Street. It's

655
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:03,480
a good idea to do it, even if it's boring

656
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,599
that ray. But there are kids in the marching band

657
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:09,280
who don't play an instrument or twirl of a ton.

658
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,760
They just hold a sign. So I'm standing there and

659
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,639
the the CEO of Macy's standing in front of me.

660
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,719
I said, imagine how bad you have to suck to

661
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,599
be the sign holder.

662
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: You didn't say this, You said it to the CEO

663
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,960
of Macy's and she was laughing. That is hysterical.

664
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, this poor kid is just standing on either side

665
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,880
of this thing that he's not even marching.

666
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: You're not holding an instrument like I would be.

667
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: I gotta say you're made the marching band.

668
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:47,559
Speaker 4: I can't squirrel.

669
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: What your time as an intern on that show of

670
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:58,320
assholes was well spent. That's a great line. So what's

671
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,159
next for you? I mean, you've on reality TV. We

672
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,800
talked to you about sixteen and Pregnant Reunion or tim

673
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,760
teen Mom or whatever it was. I know you were

674
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,199
doing some other shows. You did Deb's House, which is

675
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,559
a great show and I encourage anybody to see that

676
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:14,480
on Peacock or Netflix.

677
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:16,159
Speaker 3: Great.

678
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,639
Speaker 2: And Who's deb is? Whose mom?

679
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,519
Speaker 3: Waka Floka?

680
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah I didn't know that, and my kid knew it

681
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:31,400
immediately when I were walking through. Yeah, give you the

682
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,119
whole I go, why can't you just remember the stuff

683
00:35:36,159 --> 00:35:40,400
for school? I got to learn about Waka Flaka. But

684
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:42,360
you know all that. I mean, you give me the

685
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,920
history of Waka Floka. You can give me the backstory

686
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:48,159
on somebody's this and that. I go, it's not like

687
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,960
you don't know stuff. You know the stuff that you

688
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,800
want to know, But this isn't stuff. That's going to

689
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,320
benefit you? How is this benefiting you today? Is all

690
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,840
my things? But I can't say that, and I can't.

691
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,960
I just have to just because they sound like, you know,

692
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,480
the typical that, typical that, and I don't want to

693
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,519
do that too so but.

694
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:11,119
Speaker 3: You know, I'm coming from somebody who's the same, probably

695
00:36:11,159 --> 00:36:13,360
the same way as Jameson in school, like smart but

696
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:17,599
doesn't really like doesn't apply yourself, as my parents would say.

697
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:19,159
I was just not interested.

698
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,679
Speaker 4: And then when I found something I was interested.

699
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: In, I put, well, you know, I mean, I'm guilty

700
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,639
of that education.

701
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:29,119
Speaker 3: It's hard to get them through it, just to get

702
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,079
out of this until they can actually pursue a passion.

703
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 4: But I get it. I do get it. Like from

704
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,840
the other side, I'm like, because that it's.

705
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,519
Speaker 2: Boring, dude, What is uh?

706
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 4: Because I'm never going to.

707
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: Talk about a nice sauce at least triangle outside of

708
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,400
this room.

709
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: What is the what is next for you?

710
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 4: I don't know?

711
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 3: Like thankfully, uh, this relationship with Macy's has already opened

712
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,000
some doors for me. There's a couple of event companies

713
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:02,760
that have reached out to me since, so I'll be

714
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,599
talking to them about stuff.

715
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 4: Weirdly, in the middle of this.

716
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: All going on, I got reached out to again by

717
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,519
mister Beast. Oh, which would be the second time they

718
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:17,239
have called, And so I might be going out and

719
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,000
doing this. The first time I didn't go down and

720
00:37:19,039 --> 00:37:21,320
do a site visit. The second time, I might just

721
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,719
to see, like who Cares which is obviously YouTube's biggest YouTube.

722
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:27,199
Speaker 4: Channel in the world.

723
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: Would you have to move?

724
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:31,639
Speaker 4: I would have to move.

725
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,159
Speaker 3: He's based in Greenville. It's it's the nice thing about them.

726
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,840
What I will say, and this isn't proprietary information so

727
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,679
I can tell you is when they want to do

728
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,559
a hire, they do a ninety day trial period. So

729
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:48,440
they bring you down and they put you up in

730
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,880
corporate housing, similar to how you would be if.

731
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,079
Speaker 4: You were on the road for a show and they

732
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:53,960
give you three months.

733
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: That way, you don't get rid of your apartment and

734
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:58,800
sell all your things and relocate and you get there,

735
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,960
it's not the vibe for you, and it's not the

736
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:03,440
vibe for them, and you've uprooted your whole life.

737
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,639
Speaker 4: And then then what do you do?

738
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 3: So they give you ninety days and then within that

739
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,760
ninety days, I think you produce two videos which gives

740
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,599
them the opportunity to see how you're gonna do within

741
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:17,119
their system because they operate very differently from any other

742
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:19,119
production out there.

743
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 4: They just do.

744
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: They have a very Things are shot as if they're

745
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,960
live because they're one shot because Jimmy doesn't want things

746
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,039
to look fake, which I understand. So it's set up

747
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,280
like a live show. And then there's producing on the

748
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,079
back end, which is like a whole you know what

749
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:33,880
I mean, it's not what.

750
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 4: They do and live live. It's live. You see what

751
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:36,599
you see, and that's it.

752
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: This is shot live and then edited to make sure

753
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,239
that it's as many minutes as it needs to be

754
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,199
for YouTube, and unnecessary things are cut out and graphics

755
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,519
can be added and stuff like that.

756
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:48,639
Speaker 4: So really tries to keep it authentic.

757
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: So I'll produce two videos, see how that goes, and then.

758
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: Make a decision. If I say yes, they'll give me

759
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,000
relocation money.

760
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: So in addition to like putting you up, then they

761
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,880
then they help you move because he owns the whole

762
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,599
town of Greenville, so they can help you find a house.

763
00:39:05,519 --> 00:39:06,559
Speaker 4: That's the only part of it.

764
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,639
Speaker 3: That just feels a little weird, you know, I mean,

765
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,320
you're just like, once you're in, you're just into this compound.

766
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:18,440
And I I I'm a bit of a free bird.

767
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,159
Speaker 4: I like, I like my freedom.

768
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also I've had my freedom for twenty years.

769
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:25,559
Speaker 4: I need health.

770
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,559
Speaker 2: Insurance, gotcha? Gotcha? What's the Would you still be able

771
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:32,760
to do things on your own?

772
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 4: If I were working for him? It would be much

773
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,000
harder to take on independent projects.

774
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: But I mean, if you this is a nice thing,

775
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:40,360
because I.

776
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,519
Speaker 3: Would be I would be full time doing that, right.

777
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:46,639
I just wouldn't have time. You'd be producing. Like I said,

778
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:50,239
they do things very like they're they're producing styles very different.

779
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:54,320
It's kind of intense a little bit because they have

780
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,480
to stay you have to stay relevant or die. They're

781
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:58,840
the biggest channel for a reason. And they have to

782
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,480
keep going because you know what I.

783
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: Mean, for all the reasons.

784
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 3: They have to keep sponsorships and whatever. So they just

785
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,519
do it different. I just don't think I would have time.

786
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 2: You don't think you'd have to like write your own stuff, right,

787
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,079
and which would be.

788
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,599
Speaker 4: A bummer, you know.

789
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:14,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I would have time, you know,

790
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,239
and you would have time, But I think it would

791
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,400
just be much harder. And I have a couple of

792
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,280
projects that I really want to get off the ground,

793
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,599
like for realsies.

794
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:29,599
Speaker 2: That have some you know, the one that you wrote

795
00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:30,199
that I read.

796
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 4: I loved it, did you. I sent you the second one, the.

797
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,599
Speaker 2: Second one I haven't read yet, and I apologize for that.

798
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,920
I've just been a little bit upside down.

799
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,599
Speaker 4: It's a little bit. I'm a little bit farther along

800
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:44,280
with it, and I've changed some things. So I'll send

801
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,119
it to you, like just fun. It's been fun to

802
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:51,000
get in and write this stuff. I want to get

803
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:54,400
these things submitted. You know, I got plans. I want

804
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,159
to get them made.

805
00:40:56,159 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. I'm noticing, like you know, it

806
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:09,639
would almost be I don't want to run out of time, right,

807
00:41:10,039 --> 00:41:11,199
I don't want to run out of time.

808
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 4: I don't want to.

809
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 3: Have any like damn, I should have done that before

810
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,800
I can. If I'm working for a mister beast, it

811
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,760
might be a situation where like damn, I could have

812
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,199
made my movie but I didn't because you know what

813
00:41:23,199 --> 00:41:25,760
I mean. Or or it could be like thank god

814
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,280
I worked for mister bat so I could have the

815
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,679
scene money so I could make my movie.

816
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: You will never I mean that. That's what I'm saying,

817
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,960
and nothing has to happen tomorrow. Everything kind of goes

818
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,400
with it. I think, you know, for a lot of things,

819
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:47,960
I'm a bit of a risk taker, yeah to you know,

820
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:52,159
to a certain extent. You know, my world got turned

821
00:41:52,199 --> 00:41:55,119
upside down. And I just decided we'll try this. We'll

822
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:56,880
just try it. And I took a bunch of money

823
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,119
and I have to I threw a bunch of money

824
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:01,880
at it. And I know that there were family members going,

825
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,679
what the fuck is he doing? And uh, I mean

826
00:42:04,679 --> 00:42:06,679
even my father said to me a year later, he goes,

827
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,199
I didn't think it was going to work. And I'm

828
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:11,880
not saying that it's blown the doors off, but I

829
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,079
did something that many people can't do. Right.

830
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: I feel the same way. I had a lot of

831
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,519
people like basically laugh in my face, what do you

832
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:22,559
think you're trying to do?

833
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 4: And I was like, just watch watch me do it.

834
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:31,519
Speaker 2: And I often I saw I saw in an interview

835
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:34,880
today this morning, we're taking this on the on the

836
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,199
Sunday h and I do enjoy the CBS Sunday Morning Show.

837
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:44,199
And I saw an interview with James Cameron and when

838
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,360
you look at the ship, that guy did. So he

839
00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:52,079
was a truck driver and he will yeah, and he

840
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,920
wanted to. I guess he had gone to college and

841
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,519
it just wasn't for him and he didn't, so we

842
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:00,679
wound up being a truck driver. But he was so

843
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,280
interested in this stuff that he would go to the

844
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:09,199
USC library and into the archive and read everything about

845
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,920
production and animation and lighting and all this stuff. And

846
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,840
he said he would you know, xerox. It is the

847
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,840
word he use, which is so funny, right, because that's

848
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,000
where that's fine I am. And he said, I had

849
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:23,840
these binders and it was like a master class. He's

850
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,000
like a graduate level course on how to do it.

851
00:43:26,199 --> 00:43:28,360
So then he eventually got jobs. But because he was

852
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,599
so technically knowledgeable and self taught, like went in and

853
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,400
did it self taught right, that he was able to

854
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:40,800
then move up in these companies and then eventually wrote

855
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,440
Terminator and did this thing and co produced that it is.

856
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,679
And yet when you look at the shit that this

857
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,039
guy does, you go, I mean Terminator was like puppetry

858
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:55,320
and strings and you know, Alien was something like that. Yeah,

859
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,519
and then he right, and now he's doing and he's

860
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,400
got a museum, a private music of all the props

861
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,599
for movies he's done. And then you know, like his

862
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,679
whole thing was, I need I want to explore because

863
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:11,119
I'm interested in the Titanic. I want to go down

864
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:14,199
in submarines and look at it. In order to get

865
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:16,440
that funded, I need to come up with a story.

866
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,800
So he's like, all right, I'll write this story. He goes,

867
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,800
I'll make it Romeo and Juliet and and that's what

868
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,719
he did, and it became the biggest box office.

869
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,679
Speaker 4: Growthery of just wanting to see the all.

870
00:44:28,559 --> 00:44:31,599
Speaker 2: In pursuit of that, that was the whole purpose. Yeah,

871
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,480
and then took eight right, and then took eight years

872
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:39,320
off and did all this expiration, and then came back

873
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,800
and started Avatar. And Avatar looks insane to how to

874
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,159
even produce that, Like the way the people sigourny, we

875
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,800
think it's in Uh, it's just it's nutty. But one

876
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,000
of the things he said was, I love doing things

877
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:59,840
I don't know how to do. I love doing things

878
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,400
don't know how to do, because I hope when I'm

879
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,280
eighty seven and have an oxygen tube up my nose,

880
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:09,880
I'm still doing things I don't know how to do. Yeah,

881
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,119
And I thought Wow, that's a different way of because

882
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:16,159
most people fear doing something they don't know how to do.

883
00:45:16,679 --> 00:45:19,280
James Cameron and I went, shit, man, I didn't know

884
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,199
how to do a podcast. I still don't know how

885
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:23,119
to do a podcast. I know how to talk, I

886
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:25,280
know how to be someone entertaining. I know how to

887
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:28,840
appeal the guys. I know the radio side of it.

888
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,679
That's not the podcast side of it.

889
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:33,679
Speaker 4: Right, it's not you're doing it anyway.

890
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,199
Speaker 2: I'm just doing it and learning. And then somehow, like

891
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:41,400
you know, this graduate school program. It came to me

892
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,920
on a Saturday with classes beginning on a Tuesday, and

893
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,079
I go, sure, because I don't have enough shit, and

894
00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:53,280
yet all of it, somehow I believe is gonna come together, podcast,

895
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,079
all of it, and yeah, it's amazing, and I think,

896
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:00,320
like there's no wrong answer. But I used to always go, oh,

897
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,480
you gotta work twenty four to seven. You just got

898
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,880
to change your mindset. I'm realizing, yeah, I have to. Like,

899
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,760
there's a Buffalo Bills game and I would love to

900
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,000
go watch it with my friends today, but I'm I'm

901
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,199
I can't. I have my son and I you know,

902
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,960
I've got to make dinner and prepare for the week,

903
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,079
and I've got other projects for school that I need

904
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,800
to finish up. And and in order to make all

905
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,239
this stuff work to the level that I wanted to,

906
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,400
I gotta work like all the time, Like I really

907
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,760
have no time for anybody in my life.

908
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 4: But I think you get rewarded for that.

909
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: Oh, I do too.

910
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: What I've learned about life is like I usually get

911
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,519
what I want, but.

912
00:46:44,639 --> 00:46:48,559
Speaker 3: I have to just get beat up until I get

913
00:46:48,599 --> 00:46:51,559
it because I fall into old patterns.

914
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: There you go, you know what I mean.

915
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,599
Speaker 5: So, so what I figured out really because obviously, like

916
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:02,039
when things are going wrong, I want answers, and so

917
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:05,360
I do a lot of reading about manifesting it all stuff,

918
00:47:05,679 --> 00:47:08,960
And really what it is you can't think your way

919
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:10,239
into a million dollars.

920
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: Really, you can't just sit here and go, I want

921
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,480
a million dollars, I want a million dollars. A million

922
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,239
dollar shows up. What sitting here thinking I want a

923
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,199
million dollars one a million dollars does is it actually

924
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,639
changes your mindset, which changes your behavior. So instead of

925
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:26,719
going out this weekend and spending three grand at the clurb,

926
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:30,079
I'm saving it. And then in six months I go.

927
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:31,519
Speaker 4: Oh, shit, I have a million dollars.

928
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: Wait a second, who was dropping three dollar? You're dropping

929
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,559
three grand at the clurb right, God, that's amazing over there.

930
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,840
I don't know. I think if I drop like two

931
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,239
hundred in a night, I go, God, damn, what would

932
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,159
what do you think? You're made of money?

933
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,639
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, I do all in

934
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:54,639
the way you think about it.

935
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 3: If you if you change your thoughts, you will change

936
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,320
your behavior so you will have time you it will

937
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,519
get rewarded because you had the discipline to not go

938
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,440
watch the Bills game today and you got all your

939
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,320
shit done, and oh my god, you found yourself having

940
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,639
all this Well, something more fun happened and you did

941
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:12,239
something more fun than watching the Bills game.

942
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, I just think life.

943
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,199
Speaker 6: Like provides that for you, because unless you always have

944
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,639
a miserable mindset, then yes, things are hard, things suck,

945
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:25,679
You don't have any luck, Your life is terrible.

946
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,199
Speaker 4: Sure, that's the way you.

947
00:48:27,199 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 2: Always think of what I always think. You're You're right,

948
00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:33,400
you get what you think about life is a mirror

949
00:48:33,559 --> 00:48:37,320
to your stuff. And at any point, at any point,

950
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:43,039
you can change that. Absolutely, I will say that. You know,

951
00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:47,159
for me, I think my whole thing all my life

952
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:55,000
was to avoid pain, absolutely emotion more emotional pain, but pain,

953
00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:56,960
emotional pain I didn't mind.

954
00:48:57,159 --> 00:49:00,639
Speaker 3: Like, think about what you went through, right, probably developed

955
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:01,199
that block.

956
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. And when I say pain, and I don't even

957
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,920
really mean physical pain because I've been punched as part

958
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,360
of a sport and you know, feel I don't want

959
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:14,519
to feel that heavy stuff. And I think, like now

960
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:19,599
I go, I've done so much dumb things, woken up

961
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:22,719
in places with people I didn't know. You know, I

962
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,760
shouldn't even I know my mother watches this once in

963
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,840
a while, but she did. Wait, she didn't call me

964
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,039
the promiscuous one once, so I got it. Yeah, she knows.

965
00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:36,320
But the thing is like none of that ever, It

966
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,079
doesn't it's not fulfilling. What it doesn't It doesn't, it doesn't.

967
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,079
It leaves you almost more empty inside almost.

968
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 4: All the time.

969
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I'm saying, Like, if so you

970
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,480
know that, so then you change your mindset and you

971
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:51,519
don't do that and you get rewarded with something.

972
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: But at my age, you know, yeah, I mean, what

973
00:49:58,840 --> 00:49:59,239
do you think?

974
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, because like you're not that much.

975
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:07,199
Speaker 2: Older than me, So like, no, you certainly do. I mean,

976
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:11,679
look I don't. I certainly there's a lot of fun

977
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:14,320
you can have. But I also think, like this stuff

978
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,920
right now is the most important. And uh, I don't

979
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,440
want to sound too too dramatic, so I'll try to

980
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:25,119
I won't use the first word that popped in my head.

981
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:28,000
But directing my son to be the best that he

982
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:31,440
can be is is a more important thing to me

983
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:35,880
right now. And I think that also the success right

984
00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:40,760
seeing him. They watch, right, they watch kids, kids, kids

985
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,760
notice everything, and so you want to be able to say, hey,

986
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,280
look what I did without saying look what I did?

987
00:50:48,679 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 3: Right, And if you don't think like he doesn't find

988
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:53,920
a sense of pride.

989
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: Like they do, kids do.

990
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: I cannot tell you how many times ago because Lewis,

991
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,000
my son, Lewis works right across the street, this little

992
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,880
Israeli restaurant from us, and I will go in there

993
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,360
every once in a while and have a drink and

994
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,239
just you know, shoot the ship, especially if I haven't

995
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,880
seen him in a couple of days or whatever, because

996
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,800
our schedules are so different, and I cannot.

997
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: Tell you probably five out.

998
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:16,159
Speaker 3: Of six times I go in there, someone at the

999
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:19,079
bar comes over to me and says, oh, my god,

1000
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,480
your son talks about you all the time.

1001
00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:24,039
Speaker 4: Oh, he's such a good kid. And they go on

1002
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:24,679
and on and on.

1003
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,679
Speaker 3: So I'm sure, like you said, Jameson, your other boys

1004
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,880
they're seeing this. They're also seeing that you're like putting

1005
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,840
in all this effort. You're you're putting in all this work.

1006
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,679
That's not nothing. That's so great.

1007
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,159
Speaker 4: And I think he is gonna see it.

1008
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:42,039
Speaker 3: And even if he's he's too cool for all of

1009
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:43,800
us right now, Jameson.

1010
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: And you know what, Oh where'd you go? What's he

1011
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,280
come back? Take her off the screen for a second.

1012
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 4: But he isn't gonna be.

1013
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be, and you're gonna you're gonna

1014
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,000
run into one of his buddies.

1015
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh my god, Jesus.

1016
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: D Well, I think for him, you know. Uh, it

1017
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,480
was funny because we went he had a buddy over

1018
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:15,039
yesterday and we had, uh, we went to pick up

1019
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:18,320
pizza and when I walked into the pizza shop, there

1020
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,639
are all these people talking to me and he says

1021
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,800
to his buddy. Everywhere we go people know him, and

1022
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,079
I go, well, it's not really true anymore. I haven't

1023
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,480
been on the radio in a number of years. He goes, Dad,

1024
00:52:32,639 --> 00:52:35,920
we were just at this restaurant and you went over

1025
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,159
to the bathroom and this guy's like, hey, you're Bill Moran.

1026
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,679
You're a legend. And I laughed, and his friend said,

1027
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,400
how does that make you feel? And I said, you know,

1028
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,480
it's really nice that you were able to do something

1029
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:55,440
that meant something to somebody. I think beyond me, right,

1030
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,639
beyond the dick jokes, beyond the silliness that there was

1031
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,039
a connection there that you were friend on the radio

1032
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:03,360
or a friend on the podcast or whatever that.

1033
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,679
Speaker 3: Is that show specifically, And I think you're building that

1034
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,440
so much, like I listen to your podcast, like you

1035
00:53:09,519 --> 00:53:12,840
have such a community in such a short time already

1036
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,760
with characters that people know and connect to, which is

1037
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,239
what the breakroom did. So I remember a lot like

1038
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,920
how when once I got on the payroll, But I

1039
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:27,119
remember feeling like, how did I get How do I

1040
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:30,960
get to get paid? To come in and laugh so

1041
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,639
hard every single morning? Every morning? It was worth the

1042
00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:39,079
three o'clocks, It was worth the stress. It was like

1043
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:43,039
it was worth every second because we would laugh so hard.

1044
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 4: I would go home with like a stomach ache every day.

1045
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:49,760
Just how the way you start your.

1046
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,559
Speaker 3: Day, the community that rallied around you when something would change,

1047
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,119
when we had to start playing music and people went

1048
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,719
frigging berserk because how dare they cut out their precious

1049
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,760
talk with this bullshit music weekend? Hear all afternoon, Like,

1050
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:10,079
it's just what you've done is you have you do

1051
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:12,199
have a legacy. And I think what you're doing is

1052
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,360
like all all worlds lead to this. I think this

1053
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,000
is always You're going to have to evolve out of

1054
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:20,719
radio because radio is gonna Radio is going to evolve

1055
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,079
into something else it already was when you were there.

1056
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:27,159
Speaker 4: You know so well, everything that's being sent to you

1057
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,880
is like all roads lead to somewhere you're supposed to be.

1058
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly wasn't looking to have you blow smoke

1059
00:54:33,679 --> 00:54:38,400
up my rear end, but looking at it, but no,

1060
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,559
I agree with you. I look back on my career

1061
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:47,559
and because I turn off my feelings when I left CMF,

1062
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:52,119
and I did it abruptly, and I remember being on

1063
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:57,119
a boat headed into Disney, and I'm getting calls from

1064
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,400
local reporters going, hey, what's going going on? And it

1065
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,440
was reporters that I had brought on the show quite

1066
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,000
a bit, and I said, I really can't comment on anything,

1067
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:10,760
and it was kind of cool, but I kind of

1068
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,880
turned off everything about that show. I just shut it

1069
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,880
down and I went on and tried something else that

1070
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:22,519
wasn't as successful, and then something that was extremely successful.

1071
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:28,800
And I think that when I stopped and I looked back,

1072
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,880
and it was more when Dan agreed to come on

1073
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,280
the podcast, because he and I hadn't talked for a while,

1074
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,440
and then he and I had had a kind of

1075
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,519
a disagreement over something that was more my fault than anything,

1076
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:46,119
to believe it or not. And I look back and

1077
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:51,400
I go, God, damn, that show was unbelievable. It really

1078
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,880
really was a fantastic show. And I loved bringing in

1079
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,559
all the characters and stuff, and I think Tommy was

1080
00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:00,840
very reticent to that stuff. But he was so funny.

1081
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,079
He was so naturally funny that I have said to

1082
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:07,719
Tommy Lay for years that he is probably the funniest

1083
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,320
person I have ever heard on the radio. And to

1084
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,519
have had that time to just work with him, both

1085
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:17,239
as part of a different show that we show, and

1086
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,800
then when it was more, it was whittled down to

1087
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,079
just he and I basically and Danny or whoever else

1088
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:27,719
was in there. Uh, it was amazing and I will

1089
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,440
always uh treasure that, but I don't too.

1090
00:56:32,159 --> 00:56:34,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is probably the funniest.

1091
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:39,079
Speaker 2: Absolutely one of the most naturally me too, me too

1092
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,559
his his If you're.

1093
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 4: Not paying attention, you're gonna miss everything, he would say,

1094
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,360
you would be talking on someone.

1095
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 2: He would say something underneath underneath was.

1096
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 4: He's so fast. I haven't. I haven't heard their show

1097
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,000
in a long time.

1098
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: I would say, I'm sure the same. I have not either,

1099
00:56:59,519 --> 00:57:01,960
And it has nothing to do with anything, not a

1100
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,079
bitterness thing on me. I just I just haven't. And

1101
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:11,400
I would think that it is probably just as good,

1102
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,440
if not better than it was when we were there.

1103
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,719
And uh, A lot of that is due to him,

1104
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,039
but also the people around him. They all work very

1105
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:22,880
hard and well together. I'm sure you do the Uh.

1106
00:57:24,239 --> 00:57:26,239
It's it's interesting and at the same time, and I

1107
00:57:26,239 --> 00:57:28,920
don't know about how you feel about these kind of things.

1108
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,639
For me, it was all I wanted to do was radio,

1109
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:36,079
so I did it from a young age on. That

1110
00:57:36,199 --> 00:57:40,400
was kind of my thing, and yet I have no

1111
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,960
longing for it. Anymore. And I think because I think,

1112
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,079
because I do this, but I love not having anybody

1113
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:52,320
to really answer to it. I don't have to do ship. Yeah,

1114
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,280
I don't have to do shit I don't want to do.

1115
00:57:54,599 --> 00:57:58,679
I mean, maybe a little bit something you don't or

1116
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,039
have to go somewhere and have to.

1117
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 3: Worry about, like branding and things. Yeah, I feel fortunate

1118
00:58:06,519 --> 00:58:08,559
enough in my career. I have done so many different

1119
00:58:08,639 --> 00:58:12,960
kinds of projects that there are definitely projects that I am.

1120
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,559
Speaker 4: Not interested in anymore.

1121
00:58:14,639 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: And I get to say I don't want to do

1122
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,280
this docuseries about this family because, you know, for whatever reason,

1123
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,440
because it doesn't feel right to me. And I can

1124
00:58:24,519 --> 00:58:27,800
say no and not feel bad about turning something down

1125
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,039
because if I turn around and look at the things

1126
00:58:30,079 --> 00:58:33,079
I have done, it's like, who cares, nobody's watching.

1127
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: The ship some of the preak Well, that parade thing

1128
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:43,280
was unbelievable. Thank you so much for getting Jamison and

1129
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,159
I some access to that. I've been doing some things

1130
00:58:46,199 --> 00:58:47,880
with him where i'll post once in a while. I

1131
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,760
don't think he's always comfortable with it, but I call

1132
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,039
it our mandate, and uh yeah, I like it. It's

1133
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:57,440
a mandate. So we and it's a mandated it's a

1134
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:02,199
mandated mandate. And I think it's mandated more because it's needed, right,

1135
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:05,519
And I think that a lot of times, for me,

1136
00:59:06,519 --> 00:59:08,880
I don't know about you, it was easier to bury

1137
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,719
myself in work than to actually deal with the shit

1138
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,960
in front of me. And so now absolutely part of

1139
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,360
this part of the whole thing with the mental health

1140
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,800
counseling stuff is oh boy, buddy, you better figure your

1141
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:22,639
shit out fast.

1142
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:27,519
Speaker 3: Is it, like I'm curious, is it cracking things open

1143
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:29,239
for you don't have to tell me, but like for

1144
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,000
you personally that you weren't expecting where you're just like,

1145
00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:36,000
oh wow, I guess I never thought about something that way,

1146
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:37,480
or maybe this is the way.

1147
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,039
Speaker 4: I do things because of this reason.

1148
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:41,679
Speaker 3: Like are you learning stuff about yourself in the process

1149
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,599
or is it very much like you're learning what bipolarism is,

1150
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,639
you know, is it kind of helping you with some

1151
00:59:48,679 --> 00:59:50,719
self awareness or is it very clinical?

1152
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: No, there's a lot of self awareness, tremendous amount of

1153
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,239
self awareness stuff. There's a book that I had to

1154
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:02,920
read that I would say is perfect for anybody who

1155
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,079
would just be therapy if you had an actual diagnosis

1156
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:09,760
of something you made me need something a little more intense.

1157
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,679
But this was really about feelings and it was simple examples.

1158
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,280
Like you know, let's say you and somebody are in

1159
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:24,639
a relationship and the person you go to they're coming

1160
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:26,719
back from business trips, so you're excited to see them,

1161
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,559
so you make their favorite dinner and you've got it

1162
01:00:28,599 --> 01:00:30,440
ready and the candles, and you go pick them up

1163
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,519
at the airport and you're all excited. You get in

1164
01:00:33,559 --> 01:00:37,079
the car and you say, hey, I made this dinner

1165
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:40,400
and I'm so excited you're home, and oh when will

1166
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,679
it be ready as soon as we get back. Fantastic

1167
01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:45,119
because then I can go meet my friends at the

1168
01:00:45,159 --> 01:00:49,039
bar at ten. And you stuff it down and you

1169
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:51,480
don't say anything, and it builds up, and it builds

1170
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:53,000
up and it builds resentment. And I think that's a

1171
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,360
very relatable thing to a lot of people. But I

1172
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,280
think that that getting in touch with your emotions, realizing

1173
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:03,920
and here are the things like on a spiritual side,

1174
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,159
I say this, but there's a reality to it as well,

1175
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:10,000
that your feelings are your guidance. Right, something feels off,

1176
01:01:10,039 --> 01:01:15,159
something doesn't feel right, something's uncomfortable, something's this, But your

1177
01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:19,760
feelings are your guidance, So when you actually can actually

1178
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,079
sit with the emotions and understand that and allow things

1179
01:01:24,159 --> 01:01:26,480
to be over and realize that you know, a lot

1180
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,559
of life has lived up here, but yes, it has

1181
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:32,880
uncovered a lot. I have avoided emotions. I compartamentalize things,

1182
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,199
which I think is also very beneficial. Like I could

1183
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:39,199
have a conversation about, uh, somebody getting killed in the

1184
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,000
DWY accident and then say, well, it was nice to

1185
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,039
see you guys, and I'm really glad you're here at

1186
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:45,920
this comedy show, and then go out on stage and

1187
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,639
do ten minutes of funny because I can compartmentalize. I

1188
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:53,119
don't know that that's very healthy. I have no idea,

1189
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,800
but I would also say that being you know, really

1190
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,599
seeing like I'm like, oh my God, like fuck fucked up.

1191
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:03,760
I gotta, I got it, I gotta. I gotta deal

1192
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,360
with this stuff. And I've got to, you know, admit

1193
01:02:06,679 --> 01:02:10,639
to myself and stop avoiding because I would rather go

1194
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,960
have fun than have to deal with the serious stuff

1195
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,119
in life. So I would rather go drink and uh,

1196
01:02:17,519 --> 01:02:19,760
you know, meet some girl and that would become my

1197
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,440
priority and I'd go running out there, and I think

1198
01:02:23,519 --> 01:02:28,159
that it's taken me to this point in the course

1199
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:31,159
even to go, Okay, I can't do that anymore. I

1200
01:02:31,199 --> 01:02:33,400
don't I don't really have the time for it. And

1201
01:02:33,519 --> 01:02:39,119
right now is differently it does. And I would say,

1202
01:02:39,159 --> 01:02:44,760
like in a very realistic way, Uh, I think that it.

1203
01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:49,360
I don't know. I enjoy this. I enjoy the counseling

1204
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,679
side of things. So I have no idea where it

1205
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:52,239
all goes.

1206
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,719
Speaker 3: But You've always been into that, like, well, I'm curious.

1207
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,719
Speaker 2: So it's always the why, the why?

1208
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: Right, you know, it's always this story is funny, but

1209
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:05,159
why did this person dress in a rabbit suit and drive,

1210
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,760
you know, seven hundred miles an hour?

1211
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,239
Speaker 4: Like what is you know?

1212
01:03:08,559 --> 01:03:11,679
Speaker 2: What's the underlying thing? I mean, yeah, I've always thought

1213
01:03:11,679 --> 01:03:14,599
that about alcoholism and everything. Well, we can say it's

1214
01:03:14,639 --> 01:03:19,159
in your you have a disease, but what what caused it? What? What?

1215
01:03:19,159 --> 01:03:21,079
What are you avoiding? What are you hiding from? Why

1216
01:03:21,159 --> 01:03:24,280
is this? Yeah? Because drinking treat, I'll say it all

1217
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:28,599
the time, is drinkings fun. Man. Drugs are fun. They're fun.

1218
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,840
They're a lot of fun, but they can also ruin you, right,

1219
01:03:33,079 --> 01:03:34,159
and you got to be able to.

1220
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: Do cocaine anymore. So forget that.

1221
01:03:38,119 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: I know so sad it is. Well, I know people

1222
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,360
who I may or may not know people who still

1223
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,639
do cocaine, and I don't know. I wouldn't. I'm not

1224
01:03:51,679 --> 01:03:53,280
as comfortable with any It just.

1225
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,239
Speaker 4: Is too scary. There are just too many.

1226
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 3: Like I had a friend of mine pass away on

1227
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:02,599
my birthday, some dirty because they're they're putting fannel in it,

1228
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:07,719
and it just is like this year, no, this was

1229
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,480
twenty nineteen.

1230
01:04:10,679 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 2: Okay, well not that long ago, six years anytime you.

1231
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 3: Hear do you remember that story of those Kansas City

1232
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:18,360
chiefs guys that were hanging out at that guy's house

1233
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:20,559
in the backyard, woke up.

1234
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 4: In the morning, three of them were dead.

1235
01:04:22,199 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm knowing the cocaine, Like that's what because they

1236
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,360
put it in there because it's highly addictive and they're

1237
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,000
only supposed to put a little bit, but they put

1238
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:29,960
too much and you die.

1239
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,320
Speaker 4: So the fact that you even have to like like

1240
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,440
figure out if you're gonna die, like I can't. I

1241
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,760
can't even go there. No, I can't figure out if

1242
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,159
I'm gonna die first, Like no, sorry, I'm just good.

1243
01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:45,519
Speaker 2: I mean, cocaine is an adult adderall, as a friend

1244
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:49,079
of mine says, but I would rather I just take

1245
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:53,320
the adderall you need. Yeah, believe me, I love adderall.

1246
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,360
I'm to the point now where I almost needed to

1247
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,119
get through the day.

1248
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,239
Speaker 3: I have to stay away from like all that because

1249
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,920
weed is as strong as it gets for me. I

1250
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,239
have to stay away from all that stuff.

1251
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: I just can't.

1252
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 3: I've never been that kind of it. Just I'm too

1253
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,119
anxious of a person. You do not want to give

1254
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:10,320
an anxious person to offer.

1255
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,559
Speaker 2: Well. I can see myself get a little anxious from

1256
01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:15,639
time to time, but it's now to the point where

1257
01:05:15,679 --> 01:05:18,159
it's like, I'm so if I don't have it, I

1258
01:05:18,239 --> 01:05:21,360
think I would sleep all day because I'm drained. And

1259
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,199
you know, I mean, look, you're right right. I had

1260
01:05:25,239 --> 01:05:27,360
somebody say that to me. But you've lived through this.

1261
01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:33,159
In the last six months. For me, I lost my dad.

1262
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,119
I had a personal relationship that I put to an end.

1263
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:42,559
There was another relationship that kind of went nowhere. There was,

1264
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,719
you know, all the moving parts of of this. Your

1265
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,239
a single dad. I mean I don't mean that, like

1266
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,639
his mom just doesn't live in this town. So there's

1267
01:05:52,679 --> 01:05:55,519
all those things you're trying to navigate, and then you

1268
01:05:55,639 --> 01:05:59,920
took it on grad school and an intense program because

1269
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,679
it's got to be done by twenty twenty seven, and

1270
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,079
I go, God, damn, I am. I'm burned out. And

1271
01:06:06,239 --> 01:06:10,199
somehow the adderall has helped me and I get shit done,

1272
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,320
and I find myself doing things like I'm turning the

1273
01:06:13,559 --> 01:06:15,760
TV off. I gotta go do this right now, I

1274
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,119
gotta do this. And I don't know if that's the

1275
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:20,519
adderall giving you clarity. I have no idea, because I

1276
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,400
would melt into my couch and just watch anything and

1277
01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:27,760
everything for no reason and then wake up and go,

1278
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,280
why did I waste those hours?

1279
01:06:30,039 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: So I mean, obviously like doctors don't like I don't know,

1280
01:06:33,079 --> 01:06:36,880
I don't know. You're not going to get something that

1281
01:06:37,239 --> 01:06:38,679
is I don't know, gonna hurt you.

1282
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:43,559
Speaker 4: But just be careful. Yeah, you know, Yes, you will

1283
01:06:43,599 --> 01:06:46,000
get stuff done, and there are people who need it. Chemically.

1284
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: Your body just doesn't make the chemicals you need to

1285
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,239
do the things that you don't make enough saratone or dopamine,

1286
01:06:51,239 --> 01:06:53,480
and that stuff helps you to achieve those lives.

1287
01:06:53,679 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: These bodies. I'm making enough anything to stop more of all.

1288
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 3: I get leary, you know, I've seen a lot of

1289
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,280
addiction in this industry, a lot because like you know,

1290
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,599
people want to, they want to if they're enjoying what

1291
01:07:06,639 --> 01:07:08,199
they're doing, they want to go through a wall to

1292
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,840
do it, and they you know, to do anything, and so,

1293
01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:13,400
you know, just everything.

1294
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: In moderation, Everything in moderation. Good note to end on, Alex.

1295
01:07:18,639 --> 01:07:20,719
I can't wait to hear about the mister b stuff.

1296
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will keep you posted and let you know.

1297
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:25,559
I'll let you know, you know, whatever's next, So I'll

1298
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:29,519
let you know. Hopefully I'm in a position where next

1299
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:31,800
year for the hundredth I could go back and do

1300
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:36,119
the grade again because I'm it was such an amazing

1301
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:39,199
experience and I would love to do I would love

1302
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:40,320
to be part of the hundredth year.

1303
01:07:41,239 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 4: But if not, like I take, I left nothing on

1304
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:46,639
the table, you know what I mean. I feel like

1305
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,480
I got I got everything out of that. It was amazing.

1306
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 3: I said to my people leader like a thousand times, like,

1307
01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:54,840
thank you so much for thinking of me and bringing

1308
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,719
me into this. It was it was it was amazing

1309
01:07:57,079 --> 01:07:57,400
to me.

1310
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,119
Speaker 2: Well that is uh, I can't thank you enough for

1311
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,159
getting Jamison my into that. That was so much fun.

1312
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:08,039
That was very cool, Very cool for Alex who still

1313
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:10,280
talks to me. Hang on, one second after we're done here,

1314
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:15,239
I got a question. I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.

1315
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:39,159
I hold you. I didn't know what to do, so

1316
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:42,079
how do I do titles on my I got this

1317
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:43,319
project I gotta do