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<v Speaker 1>Weird.

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<v Speaker 2>We welcome back midnight viewers to Father Malone's weekly round up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Father and with me wearing her brand new shiny

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<v Speaker 2>collar is missus ripley Jean? Will you sound a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of musical? Do we need a theme song? What am

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<v Speaker 2>I talking about? We have a theme song one that

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<v Speaker 2>a student listener, Chris Haggerty, wrote in to say that

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<v Speaker 2>it reminded him of the interstitial music from John Carpenter's

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<v Speaker 2>assault on Precinct thirteen, which is exactly what it's meant

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<v Speaker 2>to evoke. Good on you and thank you once again

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<v Speaker 2>to HP for that theme. What are we talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this week?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think I have mentioned your brother. Have

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned Norman Bates on this podcast yet? Norman is

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<v Speaker 2>a freaky LIIKOI cat. Those are more commonly referred to

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<v Speaker 2>as werewolf cats, which is an appropriate name. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>being in an American werewolf in London all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>When Norman was around in more ways than one last week,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Hey, do you want to go outside and

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<v Speaker 2>go potty? And he turned and he said, didn't you

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<v Speaker 2>mean the lou And I said no, I meant potty

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<v Speaker 2>like a brat would use because you're a fucking brat.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we both said see you next Wednesday, bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought we were going to kill each other.

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<v Speaker 2>But it turns out that that Freaky Friday movie was right.

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<v Speaker 2>If you say the same thing at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>with the same intent, it causes magic. Except if you

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<v Speaker 2>say see you next Wednesday at the same time, it

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<v Speaker 2>conjures up John Landis and he just immediately starts talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Lon Cheney. It diffused the situation, and I'm thankful,

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<v Speaker 2>But man, he made us watch Kelly's Heroes and he

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<v Speaker 2>did a running commentary. Oh he was exhausting anyway. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of werewolves, this would have been Rip's picked this week

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<v Speaker 2>if I could have smuggled her into the theater to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Neither your brother nor sister are interested in forming a

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<v Speaker 2>pantomime human to sneak into movies with you. Wait wait,

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<v Speaker 2>Norman says he'll do it, but he wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>the head and shoulders. I'd actually love to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be like some kind of wolf man.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, we're gonna hello, Could anyone hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello? We were in an accident, Daddy, We're gonna die.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's my job to protect you and we.

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<v Speaker 3>We were at to act. I think my husband was infected.

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<v Speaker 1>Back daddy, Daddy, what's wrong with daddy?

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<v Speaker 2>She got sick?

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<v Speaker 3>What is happening to week? Can you understand me?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're you're.

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<v Speaker 3>You're scaring me.

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy's mean. Sorry, Mommy is coming.

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<v Speaker 2>The current state of the studio system is wildly depressing

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<v Speaker 2>to think there was a time if a gangster picture

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<v Speaker 2>was coming from the Warner Brothers, it was probably gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be aces, or that if a musical bore the roaring

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<v Speaker 2>Lion of MGM, you were in for a treat. Or

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<v Speaker 2>that torch Lady Front in Columbia, she'd be announcing a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a Western But horror, Oh my goodness, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my badness. There were other studios that dabbled, looking at you, RKO,

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<v Speaker 2>but really there was only one game in town, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was Universal Pictures. The literal murderer's row of boogeymen

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<v Speaker 2>they gave us would come to symbolize horror in the

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth century. Dracula, Frankenstein, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, The

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<v Speaker 2>Invisible Man, The Phantom of the Opera, The Bride of Frankenstein,

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<v Speaker 2>The Mummy, Doctor Jekil and mister Hyde, the Creature from

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<v Speaker 2>the Black Lagoon, and the Wolfman.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you've got a Wolfman impression? Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>How after last week's Lorne Michael's I Am All Ears,

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<v Speaker 2>Good Girl leew and l Knows tension After two decades

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<v Speaker 2>of pretty decent scare shows, the open seen here has

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<v Speaker 2>a camera move that made me giggle at how skillfully

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<v Speaker 2>it manipulated me. Bravo oneell. The goal in both The

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<v Speaker 2>Invisible Man and here in Wolfman, not the wolf Man,

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<v Speaker 2>just wolf Man, seems to be to drag those characters

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<v Speaker 2>into the twenty first century. Invisible Man is easier than

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<v Speaker 2>most because you don't have to deal with the supernatural.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always been a mad scientist. Now a suit of

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<v Speaker 2>cameras that project what's behind you on the surface is

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<v Speaker 2>just as plausible now as the bleaching properties of monocane

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<v Speaker 2>were to audiences in the original. So it's amusing that

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<v Speaker 2>he sets this film in a cabin isolated in the

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<v Speaker 2>wilds of Oregon, conveniently allowing the first of all modern

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<v Speaker 2>horror checklist items to be marked present can't get any

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<v Speaker 2>cell service out here, shocker, but at least that's a

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<v Speaker 2>clear choice that the film has made the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>its motivations are about as opaque as any window seems

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<v Speaker 2>to be in this film. That is ultimately going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the theme. By the way, movement without clarity, the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing is set up. I should mention with an

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<v Speaker 2>opening crawl that tells us, you know what, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>going to read the entire word salad here. In early

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety five, a hiker disappeared in the isolated mountains

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<v Speaker 2>of central Oregon. After several observations, some members of the

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<v Speaker 2>isolated community, have you got an the idea that it's isolated,

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<v Speaker 2>that's twice began to speculate that the missing man had

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<v Speaker 2>contracted a virus transmitted my animals that they call He'll fever.

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<v Speaker 2>The indigenous peoples who preceded them called it differently, mouth

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<v Speaker 2>of the Wolf. Okay, so that's a cheat right there.

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<v Speaker 2>From the get go. I want this to be plausible,

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<v Speaker 2>but also, you know, it could be spooky, supernatural stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it turns you into a wolf, but that's completely scientific.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>This story is about an out of work writer whose

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<v Speaker 2>real career is super dad. That's right, He'll buy you

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<v Speaker 2>everything in the gift shop of the museum and take

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<v Speaker 2>you to ice cream afterwards. But he has a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a temper, so maybe this is an allegory for

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<v Speaker 2>domestic violence, though between parent and child here as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to spouse to spouse, like Invisible Man could be, seems

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<v Speaker 2>a totally legitimate path to follow. There's trouble at home though.

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<v Speaker 2>He and his wife have reached that convenient place in

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<v Speaker 2>movies where they've grown distant, but without any real discernible

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<v Speaker 2>reason to be pointed to. It's just one of those

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<v Speaker 2>generally drifted apart that is in most flicks conveniently solved

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<v Speaker 2>with a declaration of love scenarios. Is there jealousy because

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<v Speaker 2>she's a working journalist and he's unemployed. That's attack you

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<v Speaker 2>could hang the film on. So Blake, that's the lead

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<v Speaker 2>character's name. I had to look it up. A side

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<v Speaker 2>of being superdad and somewhat estranged from his wife, has

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<v Speaker 2>just received word that his dad, missing for an indeterminate

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time, has been declared dead and his personal

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<v Speaker 2>effects have been passed down. That's the cabin in the forest,

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<v Speaker 2>So off they go. Does this make this like straw

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<v Speaker 2>Dogs about the thin veneer of society that covers up

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<v Speaker 2>animal instinct. Hell of a theme to explore. You can

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<v Speaker 2>figure out where this is going. Blake is bitten or scratched.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say he's wounded, and then the fun begins, or

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<v Speaker 2>it would if the film had any interest in that.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a great setup. There's a monster patrolling the exterior,

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<v Speaker 2>waiting to pounce and attempting to gain entrance, while your

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<v Speaker 2>spouse is slowly becoming that very same beast. Maybe Oneell,

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<v Speaker 2>being Australian, didn't see the fucking super obvious allegory he

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<v Speaker 2>could have pursued here. I mean, in general, tell me

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship you've been in where over time you feel

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<v Speaker 2>the person has changed, or maybe you've changed and they haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>That is worth exploring. Never mind the current state of

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<v Speaker 2>affairs here in the United States, where we no longer

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<v Speaker 2>recognize our friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And loved ones.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is the movie about? According to one l

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<v Speaker 2>in every interview I've listened to, it's about disease.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, there are nods to all the possibles I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>but the fact is Whenell's big innovation for the werewolf

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<v Speaker 2>may is to make it the fly. Because that is

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<v Speaker 2>the film that this most resembles all the way through.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is you can feel one L straining over

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<v Speaker 2>the weight that meant the invisible man. I'll bet dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to donuts that one L sat down to write a

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<v Speaker 2>thriller and framed it in the most relatable way possible,

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<v Speaker 2>a controlling relationship. It's a potent idea on its own,

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<v Speaker 2>but the timing of the film's release crested the me

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<v Speaker 2>too wave and gave the film a gravitas that may

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<v Speaker 2>not have been entirely earned, or maybe it was. In

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<v Speaker 2>any event, that's not something you can replicate spontaneously. The

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<v Speaker 2>Fly can be taken as a very real allegory for

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<v Speaker 2>the AIDS epidemic. It was in the right place, at

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<v Speaker 2>the right time, with the right subject matter. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact is Cronenberg had been dabbling in body horror all along.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect if he had made The Fly in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy nine, it would have been remarkably similar to the

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<v Speaker 2>film that we received, though it would have been viewed

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<v Speaker 2>through whatever lens was popular at that moment. So one

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<v Speaker 2>L doubles and triples down here, throwing out all of

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<v Speaker 2>these possibles of what he's trying to say about the

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<v Speaker 2>wolf Man without focusing on any of them at all,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fine if it has good scares, which it does,

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<v Speaker 2>and interesting characters, which it does not. I won't spoil

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<v Speaker 2>that or really anything else, but I will say, because

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<v Speaker 2>one hell wants this to be science based, if a

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<v Speaker 2>character loses a foot, they don't become faster you dig.

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<v Speaker 2>More likely they bleed out after two minutes tops, no

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<v Speaker 2>silver bullet required.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get behind the mic glow those many years

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<v Speaker 2>ago with the intention of contributing to the endless waves

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<v Speaker 2>of negativity out there. In fact, what spurred me to

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<v Speaker 2>start broadcasting in the first place was the preponderance of

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<v Speaker 2>shows laser focused on the shredding of movies to pieces

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<v Speaker 2>just bread and circus bullshit. It may be why my

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<v Speaker 2>focus tends to hover on the things I love. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got a brain jam packed with so much stupid movie

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge that it wouldn't hurt to spread some of it

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<v Speaker 2>around and recommend things people might actually find diverting. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I started reviewing contemporary entertainment and things get dicey,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a long winded way of apology. This show

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<v Speaker 2>isn't about snark unless I'm pushed, and goddamn it, the

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<v Speaker 2>entertainment gods are pushing me like well, like you do

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<v Speaker 2>rip when you're trying to get a treat out of

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<v Speaker 2>my hands.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't have a treat right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Hit at HP K, thank you hp it's raining men,

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<v Speaker 2>am I right? Remember just a couple of episodes ago,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was telling tales of fandom past, back when

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<v Speaker 2>the Star Trek fans were the assholes and Star Wars

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<v Speaker 2>fans the underdogs. And even though those roles have now

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<v Speaker 2>reversed and Star Wars fandom has become toxic, it has

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<v Speaker 2>still managed to produce two shows worthy of the Star

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<v Speaker 2>Wars name well that Upside Down Bizarro World, or in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, the Mirror Universe just keeps right on hurtling

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<v Speaker 2>through the cosmos. In my mind, Star Trek has always

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<v Speaker 2>had something of quality on at all times until Voyager anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that show was terrible, but Star Trek has always been

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<v Speaker 2>hit or miss. This was a film franchise marked by

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that the even films were good. That means

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<v Speaker 2>the odd films were bad. So maybe Star Trek fans

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<v Speaker 2>are a little more flexible given the mutability of the

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<v Speaker 2>show's quality over the years, or the quality of the shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Here are my Starfleet credentials. I'm fluent in the original series,

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have to mention the opening song. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>Five to compose that. Diddy.

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<v Speaker 2>then the fact that it gone on the air would

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<v Speaker 2>Musicians and vocalists have to be hired, time is booked

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<v Speaker 2>people is that now? No pushback? Okay, so maybe none

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<v Speaker 2>of those people are really affiliated with Star Trek. There's

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<v Speaker 2>session people and contractors. Not their job to comment on

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<v Speaker 2>the material. It's to do as they're told and cast

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<v Speaker 2>the check. But then that song has to be laid

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<v Speaker 2>into the show over those credits where the credits designed

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<v Speaker 2>around the song. What a terrible thought. Now, how many

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<v Speaker 2>people haven't opened their mouths and said the fucking obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I could find the actual answers to these questions,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm treating them hypothetically because there is no decent

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<v Speaker 2>there is no streaming skip credits button fast enough to

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<v Speaker 2>get me to rewatch that series. Enterprise really took the

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<v Speaker 2>That in the fact that it found itself in between

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<v Speaker 2>Insurrection and Nemesis. I mean, seriously, that's a fucking terrible sandwich.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned failing Upward. Well, meet Alex Kurtzman. He and

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<v Speaker 2>jumping from that Kevin Sorbo Hercules series to the Island,

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<v Speaker 2>even though that movie made billions and spawned too many sequels,

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<v Speaker 2>that script was by our man Alex Kurtzman. To be fair,

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<v Speaker 2>he also wrote the horrible scripts for the Amazing Spider

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<v Speaker 2>Man two and The Mummy with Tom Cruise, which is

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<v Speaker 2>misbegotten Dark Universe, where they were attempting to turn the

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<v Speaker 2>Universal Monsters into the Avengers, a concept that was considered

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<v Speaker 2>dead until the surprise success of Leewanel's Invisible Man. Somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>between Transformers and The Mummy, a terrible thing happened. This

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<v Speaker 2>remake of Star Wars as Star Trek in two thousand nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Kurtzman has been there for everything track since. There were

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<v Speaker 2>a few writers on that first film, so I can't

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<v Speaker 2>notion of exiling Kirk on a random planet that they're passing,

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<v Speaker 2>where he then gets chased by a beast into a cave,

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<v Speaker 2>where he then runs into alternate timeline Spock, who has

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<v Speaker 2>just so happened to set up shop there a veritable

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<v Speaker 2>dais I Spakina, Shut up. I lay the blame for

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<v Speaker 2>that nonsense on Kurtzman. When I saw his name was

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<v Speaker 2>attached to the first new series in over a decade,

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<v Speaker 2>my expectations were not high. So when Star Trek Discovery

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<v Speaker 2>hit the airwaves, I was shocked. I loved it. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved setting it just prior to the original series. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved the aesthetic, I loved the characters. I loved having

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<v Speaker 2>a complicated, shaded, and potentially morally corrupt character as a lead.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved the Klingon double Agent, the whole Mirror Universe thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything in that season was aces. I didn't finish the

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<v Speaker 2>second season. It just felt off.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Brian Fuller, the creator of the Hannibal television series,

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<v Speaker 2>The creator the American Gods television series. That Brian Fuller,

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<v Speaker 2>the one in the JJ Abrams verse with actual talent,

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<v Speaker 2>the one who apparently kept nagging Paramount that Star Trek

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<v Speaker 2>is a television based franchise and maybe they should get

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<v Speaker 2>back to it, and apparently pitched a series that would

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<v Speaker 2>base its model on American horror story, with each season

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<v Speaker 2>being self contained and set in different eras of Starfleet

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<v Speaker 2>season one before the original series, season two, during the

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<v Speaker 2>original series, season three, during Next Generation, and on and

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<v Speaker 2>on into the future we've yet to see. Paramount had

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<v Speaker 2>him streamline it down to one timeline, so instead of

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<v Speaker 2>plotting out different stories in different eras, he plotted out

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<v Speaker 2>one season of Discovery and then bailed, leaving us with

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<v Speaker 2>Kurtzman and leaving Kurtzman and Discovery adrift for all seasons

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<v Speaker 2>going forward now This might be a shame on me scenario,

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<v Speaker 2>because even with all of that precedent, all those terrible

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<v Speaker 2>stories and half bank characters and lapses in logic and

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<v Speaker 2>everything the man has written. When I heard he was

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<v Speaker 2>making a series about a Black Ops division of Starfleet,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of got excited.

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<v Speaker 3>No, not kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of a gritty and oranth series set in

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<v Speaker 2>and around the Star Trek universe is really fucking tantalizing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I say shame on me? This is Star Trek

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<v Speaker 2>Section thirty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's a customer, hope it for a word with you?

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<v Speaker 1>Bring him?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you doing in my space station? I'm giving

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<v Speaker 2>you a chance to get back in on the action

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<v Speaker 1>What a cute idea.

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<v Speaker 3>The only way this works is if I know exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>We're facing a threat unlike anything Starfleet's ever seen. Millions

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<v Speaker 2>of lives are at stake.

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<v Speaker 1>Gather your people who are going to need every one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Thirty one is a Black Ops Division spy work.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a place for people to lend the rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Start leaders here to make sure no one commits murder.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever you believed your mission was it's worse than you thought.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we stop it?

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<v Speaker 3>We work together and don't get dead. I'll try my hurtest.

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<v Speaker 1>You. Ready, let's get messy.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't answer her questions directly, she will punch you

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<v Speaker 2>in your face.

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<v Speaker 1>What you said that she was going to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>a face punching.

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<v Speaker 3>You have no idea what you've started.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be bad or record one, We survived

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<v Speaker 2>together Article fourteen, Section thirty one. In times of extreme threat,

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<v Speaker 2>extraordinary measures must be taken. That's the Starfleet charter y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>Section thirty one is basically the Wetworks division of the CIA.

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<v Speaker 2>We first met them on Deep Space nine, where they

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<v Speaker 2>were represented by William Fuckin Sadler. That's death in Bill

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<v Speaker 2>and Ted talk about tantalizing. Why didn't they spin the

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<v Speaker 2>shit off immediately? I'm sure section thirty one showed up

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<v Speaker 2>in the comics and novels and all of the other apocrypha,

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<v Speaker 2>but we wouldn't really get them again on screen until

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<v Speaker 2>Star Trek into Darkness, and there they were hardly themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>not a clandestine thing at all. They were like some

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<v Speaker 2>insurrectionist group with an admiral and a giant fucking Starship

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<v Speaker 2>marauding around speaking of into Darkness screenplay by Alex Kurtzman.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a scene where Spock has turned in Kirk for

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<v Speaker 2>some infraction, and before Kirk is able to save the

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<v Speaker 2>day by throwing a fire hose into the intake of

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<v Speaker 2>a spacecraft's engine, a fire hose on a spool in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty third fucking century. Before that piece of anachronistic idiocy,

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<v Speaker 2>Kirk refers to Spock's betrayal as being thrown under the bus.

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<v Speaker 3>What bus?

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck are you talking about? Spaceboy? Oh right,

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<v Speaker 2>the writers are fucking terrible. That line shouldn't have bothered

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<v Speaker 2>me as much as it did, but it did. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fucking furious about it right now, recalling it. At no

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<v Speaker 2>point during the writing, reading, rereading, handing the script to

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<v Speaker 2>others to read and sign off on, and then crew

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<v Speaker 2>members to build things and actors to interpret them, and

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<v Speaker 2>no one says, hey, this thing no one was saying

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<v Speaker 2>last year. We're sure they're going to still be saying

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<v Speaker 2>it two hundred years from now, right, fuck you. Section

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one is a wash in that kind of dialogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the Delvins in Star Trek. The motion pictured the

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<v Speaker 2>bald girl, super sexy. She was a Delvin They've got

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<v Speaker 2>one here, and Michelle Yeo calls her a honey trap

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<v Speaker 2>during the time between Kirk and Picard. The term honeytrap

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<v Speaker 2>is still being used by a character from a parallel dimension.

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<v Speaker 2>She was an emperor there, grew up knowing nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>pain and blood and murder, eventually becoming a genocidal emperor

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<v Speaker 2>before finding her way into our universe somewhere between slaughtering

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<v Speaker 2>her own immediate family mom, dad, little brother and attempting

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<v Speaker 2>a coup. In our universe, Emperor Philippa Giorgio learned and

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<v Speaker 2>still employs in casual conversation the term honey trap. If

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<v Speaker 2>that fucking anachronism doesn't grab you, how about calling a

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<v Speaker 2>guy in a mech suit a Swiss army knife a

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<v Speaker 2>what Swiss? What's that? That emperor played by Michelle ye

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<v Speaker 2>first appeared on that well plotted first season of Discs.

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<v Speaker 2>Evidently Michelle Yo enjoyed playing her so much that it

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<v Speaker 2>was her suggestion for a spinoff series, So in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't getting a section thirty one series without her.

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<v Speaker 2>But I question her involvement here, not her the character

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<v Speaker 2>adding the former emperor to a morally questionable part of

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<v Speaker 2>the United Federation of Planets seems like a natural, but

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<v Speaker 2>the opening scene of this movie illustrates exactly why she isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where she murders her family and his crowned emperor

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<v Speaker 2>while simultaneously branding and breaking the spirit of her only rival,

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<v Speaker 2>who happens to be her lover. This character is too

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<v Speaker 2>grand and has too big an arc to be running

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<v Speaker 2>around and scooby dooing week after week. I keep saying

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<v Speaker 2>series because that's what this was supposed to be, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were as far along as having the entire first

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<v Speaker 2>season scripted, and then there were delays and pandemics in

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<v Speaker 2>scheduling difficulties, and finally Paramount decided it'd be best to

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<v Speaker 2>use this as a one off instead. You ever watch

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<v Speaker 2>a fan cut of some epic trilogy or television series

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<v Speaker 2>boiling it down to some bastardized reader's digest version, check

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<v Speaker 2>out Breaking Bad the Movies sometime. That's what this feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>They took the major arc of the season and turned

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<v Speaker 2>that into a two hour film. Guess what happens when

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<v Speaker 2>you do that. Everything suffers. Characters meant to evolve and

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<v Speaker 2>reveal themselves over the course of a season with their

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<v Speaker 2>own standalone episodes get boiled down to their base characteristics

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<v Speaker 2>given through various exposition dumps of clumsy dialogue. Kurtzman has

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<v Speaker 2>described a series overall as Mission Impossible meets Guardians of

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<v Speaker 2>the Galaxy. It's not it's Ocean's Eleven meets Guardians of

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<v Speaker 2>the Galaxy. Actually, it's Ocean's twelve meets Guardians, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean just Guardian that twenty seventeen Russian knockoff. The problem

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<v Speaker 2>with any of those combination is it's bumping up against

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<v Speaker 2>the fundamental, hopeful, shiny bright future that is Star Trek.

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<v Speaker 2>Star Trek has had plenty of moral ambiguity in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>but the characters are always fighting against it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to lean into the darkness and they just can't.

422
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<v Speaker 2>Not helping is having a genocidal mad woman as your lead.

423
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<v Speaker 2>How do you sand off of those edges?

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<v Speaker 3>They don't.

425
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<v Speaker 2>They pay it some lip service and just treat this

426
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<v Speaker 2>as if it were any other origin story, and more

427
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<v Speaker 2>than undercutting the character's fundamental nature, it makes zero sense

428
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<v Speaker 2>she'd be involved in this story at all. It ends

429
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<v Speaker 2>up being all about her enter past because that's where

430
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<v Speaker 2>the season was going, but she doesn't know that. When

431
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<v Speaker 2>she agrees to take her first mission with them, she

432
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<v Speaker 2>just kind of does it because the show, i mean,

433
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:35.599
<v Speaker 2>movie needs her to and there's a lot of that,

434
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>which is frustrating because it nullifies anything that's good. There

435
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<v Speaker 2>is an early heist that's pretty ingenious. We get the

436
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.559
<v Speaker 2>planning scenario scene with cuts to the potential role of

437
00:26:45.599 --> 00:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>each of the members, and then Michelle ye proposes a

438
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.599
<v Speaker 2>different plan, pairing herself and the mcguffin using a device

439
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.720
<v Speaker 2>that sets them out of phase, allowing her to walk

440
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>unobstructed through physical threats and phaser fire and just walk

441
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.960
<v Speaker 2>away with the item. It's pretty clever, except they immediately

442
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.119
<v Speaker 2>turned it into the big action set piece they had

443
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 2>cleverly circumvented. What's worse is that it's a big hand

444
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.039
<v Speaker 2>to hand fight scene between Michelle Yeo out of phase

445
00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>against a masked villain also out of phase, with them

446
00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:18.279
<v Speaker 2>blinking in and out of existence and robbing the fight

447
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.039
<v Speaker 2>of any immediacy. This may be owing to Michelle Yeo's age,

448
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:24.559
<v Speaker 2>She's relying on her cape for most of her acrobatics

449
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 2>these days. No judgment, We all know she's a goddess,

450
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.519
<v Speaker 2>but it just underlines the complete lack of necessity of

451
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.720
<v Speaker 2>this drawn out martial arts display when this is supposed

452
00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 2>to be an espionage show. For every visual effect that

453
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 2>is stunning, and there are a lot, there's an unnecessary

454
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.119
<v Speaker 2>chase scene on hovering platforms with even more fisticuffs that

455
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.319
<v Speaker 2>is so horribly rendered that you have to worry about

456
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>these folk. You didn't recognize the irrelevancy of the scene

457
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 2>at its core, but then you saw this and you

458
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.839
<v Speaker 2>still thought the scene was necessary. Speaking of Guardians of

459
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 2>the Galaxy, Captain Boomerang is the dude in that Swiss

460
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 2>Army knife mech. That's right, every Australian and every show

461
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:06.960
<v Speaker 2>has to be boisterous and unhinged and completely reckless. Other

462
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>members of the team include team leader Common That's Common,

463
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the rapper actor from John Wick and Suicide Squad, except

464
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>he's not in this. We've got discount Common, or maybe

465
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 2>it's common Common just a dull mysterioso with few words

466
00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:25.319
<v Speaker 2>and less personality. Sam Richardson shows up as Quasi, the

467
00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>shape shifting comic relief who is not funny and his

468
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>transformations look remarkably ai in nature. Don't know if it

469
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>was just looked remarkably as if he were about to

470
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.519
<v Speaker 2>start crashing uncontrollably into the walls or eating an oversized

471
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:41.079
<v Speaker 2>hamburger in the next few frames after the cut. I

472
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.519
<v Speaker 2>wish this was the final member of the team because

473
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>it's the only character I enjoyed. But there is another.

474
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I have to talk about this one first, though, because

475
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 2>that other character I'm gonna be furious after speaking of

476
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Lieutenant Rachel Garrett, A regular old human here is played

477
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 2>by Casey Roll, and she's fucking great. She completely embodies

478
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.799
<v Speaker 2>the spirit of the previous series while slotting nicely in

479
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 2>with an idea of where this series could go. I

480
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 2>found her performance alive in ways everyone else's wasn't. She

481
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 2>seemed like she was on a mission for Starfleet. Everyone

482
00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 2>else seemed like they were in a sitcom. And I

483
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>didn't even realize that her character was a younger version

484
00:29:21.480 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>of the one from yesterday's enterprise. From the Next Generation,

485
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 2>she was originally played by Night Gallery Elam Tricia O'Neill. There.

486
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I fucking loved that character, and unknowingly I fucking loved

487
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>her again here, which leads us to fuzz there have

488
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:39.559
<v Speaker 2>been some pretty annoying characters in Star Trek's seventy year history.

489
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:42.079
<v Speaker 2>But they've done it. They've reached the top of the

490
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Paramount Mountain on section thirty one. They've officially created the

491
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>most annoying character in Star Trek history. A nanosized worm

492
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>piloting a robot Vulcan. Very fanciful. Oh he's wearing gold chains.

493
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Kind of a loose Vulcan. Oh wait, he's talking in

494
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the world first fucking Irish accent ever, So this makes

495
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.440
<v Speaker 2>it a tiny Irish worm. And for all the unknowing

496
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:12.440
<v Speaker 2>world to see an Irish Vulcan, a manic, unfunny Irish Vulcan.

497
00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>They get a chance to feature a fully emotional Vulcan,

498
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and faith and Bacora, they give us this. What's worse

499
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 2>is if you hear the actual actor speak, I won't

500
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 2>say his name and promote him so great or his crimes.

501
00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>He speaks with an odd South African accent that would be,

502
00:30:28.200 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, perfect for Star Trek. The character's very

503
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>presence feels like a reach. Hey, we've never seen this. Yes,

504
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:40.279
<v Speaker 2>there's a good reason in seven decades they haven't done this.

505
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to end negatively, but I'm struggling to

506
00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>continue with anything positive, so I'll say this section thirty

507
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 2>one is still a great idea. It was a great

508
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>idea when they created it for Deep Space nine, and

509
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 2>hopefully it will remain a great idea when someone in

510
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 2>the future takes the Helmet Star Trek and can do

511
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:01.880
<v Speaker 2>it some justice. I was hoping we'd get the Star

512
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Trek equivalent of and or we got the.

513
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 3>Book of Boba Fat. Oh. That's enough poor genre for

514
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:08.799
<v Speaker 3>the week, young Ripley.

515
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I know we'll put on some Collin jokes for you

516
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 2>in a.

517
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:13.519
<v Speaker 3>Minute, Okay, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>As for you, thank you for joining us here at

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<v Speaker 2>Father Malone's weekly roundup. Be sure to tune in Friday.

520
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Antonio Lapourt is back for Anthology's Attack, and we're taking

521
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 2>a look at mel Brooks History.

522
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 3>Of the World Part one. It's Good to be the King.

523
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<v Speaker 2>If you want to hear it right now, head over

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<v Speaker 2>hear everything early and commercial free, and you'll also be

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<v Speaker 2>able to hear Cable Box Theater where Night Mister Walters

527
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and Midnight viewing composer HP and I evaluate the late

528
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:48.559
<v Speaker 2>seventies early eighties cable networks practice of airing Broadway plays,

529
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>not even musicals, straight up dramas when they were desperate

530
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<v Speaker 2>for content. You don't have to be desperate for content.

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<v Speaker 2>Just head on over to Patreon, or if you can't

532
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:01.480
<v Speaker 2>see yourself paying for this, dude, you can still support

533
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>us by giving us five stars and sharing the show

534
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 2>and reviewing it in a nice manner, nicer than I've

535
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:11.000
<v Speaker 2>been today, or you know, just keep listening. I am

536
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>going to leave you with a bit from the greatest

537
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>song ever written.

538
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:23.119
<v Speaker 3>It's been a long old getting from there. It's been

539
00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 3>a long time, but my time is fun me.

540
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I will see my dream come alive and massive. I

541
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 2>will touch the sky and.

542
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna home down no more.

543
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:46.200
<v Speaker 2>No, They're not gonna change my mind and save that

544
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>base of the hall go on the lot.

545
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Will take men of god base.

546
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>To believe I can do a spell of the soul.

547
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:12.519
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna bend off? All right, That's enough, that's enough, sorry, everybody.

548
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<v Speaker 2>We're going to that again.
