Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a big story, and it's a story that
Speaker 2: Dan Watkins and.
Speaker 3: I just talked about.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Dan for not only the newscast
Speaker 2: but also for the interview. At eight forty five, Dan
Speaker 2: was covering a news conference today, the Red Sox have
Speaker 2: parted ways with Raffie Devers. It's well, Dan Shaughnessy's piece
Speaker 2: in the Globe today headline Devers good vibes are gone.
Speaker 2: This is not going to play well in Red Sox nation.
Speaker 2: It's shocking and demoralizing. I agree with Dan Shaughnessy. I
Speaker 2: don't get this, I really don't. I'm sure there are
Speaker 2: some of you out there who have an explanation. The
Speaker 2: Red Sox apparently held a news conference last or they
Speaker 2: did hold a news conference. Dan Watkins was monitoring that
Speaker 2: for all of us. Sam Kennedy, the president of the
Speaker 2: Red Sox, an affable guy who I think does a
Speaker 2: great job representing this team as a as a public face.
Speaker 2: The president of the Red Sox, and Craig Breslow. I
Speaker 2: don't know Breslow. I know Kennedy a little bit. Breslow
Speaker 2: bright Guye out of Yale, left handed reliever in the
Speaker 2: big leagues, and they're you know, long time baseball people.
Speaker 2: But I would think that you could have gotten more
Speaker 2: for Raffie Deevers, particularly as you got towards the towards
Speaker 2: the trade deadline in late July. And the reason I
Speaker 2: say that is if a team was a couple of
Speaker 2: games out of the playoffs, those would be the teams
Speaker 2: who would really want to get involved. Or if there
Speaker 2: was a team there was just a couple of games ahead,
Speaker 2: they might like to solidify their position. Bottom line is
Speaker 2: that Raffi Devers uh is no longer a Red Sox.
Speaker 2: I think most of you know the backstory that over
Speaker 2: time Devors uh fell into disfavor let's put it like that,
Speaker 2: into disfavor with with the Red Sox that Uh there
Speaker 2: they they they they went, and they got Alex Bragman,
Speaker 2: great baseball player, a little older than Devers by the way,
Speaker 2: but great baseball players, baseball player, and Devs all of
Speaker 2: a sudden lost his position uh as as a Red
Speaker 2: Sox third baseman, which of course is pretty discouraging if
Speaker 2: you're if you're Raffie Devers. Now there's a lot of
Speaker 2: guys who you know, finished their career as a designated hitter,
Speaker 2: and Raffie Devers started the season horribly, just horribly, but
Speaker 2: has come on in the last two months or two
Speaker 2: months plus and has played really well.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, yesterday hit a home run
Speaker 3: off of the.
Speaker 2: Yankee aceh Max Freed, And so that's kind of I
Speaker 2: think interesting that he's he's done well. You heard Dan
Speaker 2: Watkins explain that they wanted to play for a space
Speaker 2: and that Sam Kennedy used the word they they couldn't get.
Speaker 3: In alignment with with the player.
Speaker 2: Well, he's making a lot of money, and I can
Speaker 2: see with the Red Sox were upset. John Henry, the
Speaker 2: owner of the Red Sox, along with Sam Kennedy, flew
Speaker 2: out and had a meeting with Devers in Kansas City
Speaker 2: earlier this year to try to sell will calm the waters. Well,
Speaker 2: that meeting apparently didn't work. Uh and uh it is
Speaker 2: beginning to appear that no matter what effort was made, UH,
Speaker 2: they were not going to come to an agreement. And
Speaker 2: as a consequence, Raffie Devers is now a member of
Speaker 2: the San Francisco Giants and a huge, huge loss for
Speaker 2: the Red Sox. Now, the Red Sox has some good players,
Speaker 2: and they have good players coming up. Okay, they absolutely
Speaker 2: have have good players coming up. Uh And and they'll
Speaker 2: have their tough times like anyone else.
Speaker 3: But to lose a guy like Devers.
Speaker 2: He was the heart of this team, really was the
Speaker 2: heart of this team. And to lose him at this
Speaker 2: point in the year, when the when the team just
Speaker 2: started to be to turn themselves around kind of shocking
Speaker 2: to me anyway. And I'd love to know what do
Speaker 2: you think? Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
Speaker 2: If you're a Red Sox fan, Uh, love to hear
Speaker 2: what you would you would think. I think it's it's
Speaker 2: a it's a tough pill to swallow because they were
Speaker 2: they were starting to pull get their act together, just
Speaker 2: the only way to describe it. So, if you're a
Speaker 2: Red Sox fan, if you think that that Rivers was
Speaker 2: was a guy who was causing problems within the clubhouse,
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean, just from looking from afar,
Speaker 2: he was doing his job. He did have that ground
Speaker 2: ball what about a week ago that he didn't will
Speaker 2: run out, which is the only time and maybe he's
Speaker 2: done at other times. But the only time that I
Speaker 2: thought he acted unprofessionally. He started down the line. You
Speaker 2: almost thought, well, maybe he pulled up, you know, he
Speaker 2: pulled a hammy or something like that. But no, he
Speaker 2: definitely slowed down. And you can see Cora kind of
Speaker 2: barking at him as coraic as he headed back to
Speaker 2: the dugout that was in New York during the Achy series.
Speaker 2: Now they did want well, they won two down there,
Speaker 2: then they swept New York. Here Aaron Judge looked terrible
Speaker 2: this weekend.
Speaker 3: Rafi.
Speaker 2: Deveres looked fine when Rafi. When Devis started, if you
Speaker 2: remember the first eighteen at bats, I think he struck
Speaker 2: out something like fourteen times, had one hit. Well, he's
Speaker 2: now back to the old Raffie Devers. The Red Sox
Speaker 2: play in Seattle, to play in San Francisco this weekend,
Speaker 2: so there will be a reunion of Devers in the
Speaker 2: Red Sox this weekend. Devers, I'm not sure if he's
Speaker 2: going to be in the lineup tonight. The Giants are
Speaker 2: hosting the Cleveland Guardians tonight in San Francisco, so we'll
Speaker 2: have to I'll check that lineup when it Well, it's
Speaker 2: nine forty. I'm not sure if that's nine forty five
Speaker 2: their time or nine forty I guess it's nine forty
Speaker 2: five our time.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll have to check and see if that game is underway.
Speaker 2: We can do that during the break, But in the meantime,
Speaker 2: I'll love to hear from you if you're a baseball fan.
Speaker 2: This is pretty dispiriting. I don't see what they got
Speaker 2: back for Devors. They obviously offloaded a lot of salary.
Speaker 2: In baseball parliamce sometimes that's a salary dump. So they
Speaker 2: have freed up about two hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 2: in salary that they were committed to pay Devers, which
Speaker 2: now will be paid by the Giants or whoever else
Speaker 2: the Giants my trade devors too. The argument that I
Speaker 2: heard made today, which I thought was pretty compelling, was
Speaker 2: wait until the trade deadline. That would be the time
Speaker 2: where you could probably get maximum value for because there's
Speaker 2: always five or six teams who are there, and they're
Speaker 2: just that one player away. There's one player away for
Speaker 2: the last third of the season, is what it comes
Speaker 2: down to. So the numbers and six, one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty and six one seven, nine, three one
Speaker 2: ten thirty. We don't do a lot of sports here
Speaker 2: on night side, but I'm a pretty good baseball guy,
Speaker 2: and you can talk to me, Okay. I understand the
Speaker 2: game pretty well, followed it my entire life for a
Speaker 2: long time. Had lots of friends who played in the
Speaker 2: major leagues, So I understand. It's a tough business, and
Speaker 2: it is a business. It's a business to the owners,
Speaker 2: it's a business to the players, and it's the businesses
Speaker 2: for the general managers too, because if the team does well,
Speaker 2: the general manager stays for a couple more years. We've
Speaker 2: seen in the last few a few years, you know,
Speaker 2: uh names like you know, Dave Dombrowski and Ben Sherrington,
Speaker 2: who have you know gone gone and moved on theo
Speaker 2: Epstein before that. It's not a long term position. The
Speaker 2: only long term GM and baseball is for us I
Speaker 2: know of any duration is Brian Cashman, the Yankees general manager.
Speaker 2: But after the weekend the Yankees had I suspect maybe
Speaker 2: the weekend that they had the there's zero zero with
Speaker 2: the Angels tonight at the eighth inning, the Yankees just
Speaker 2: are not hitting. It's as simple as that. They've gone
Speaker 2: now four games and scored probably a total of three
Speaker 2: runs if I if I'm calculating correctly, so they are
Speaker 2: right for the taking. Are the Red Sox up for
Speaker 2: the job without Raffie Devers?
Speaker 3: That's the question?
Speaker 2: Six one seme on right back on Night Side.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: We don't do sports here every night. This is not
Speaker 3: a sports show. But I understand baseball.
Speaker 2: And I enjoy baseball. I think it's of all the games.
Speaker 2: Certainly I like hockey too, But I'm a baseball guy
Speaker 2: at heart, and this one doesn't make a lot of
Speaker 2: sense to me. So let's let's see. Let's see what
Speaker 2: do you think of it. Maybe some of you can
Speaker 2: explain to me why it's a brilliant move.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's see what John in Weymouth thinks. Hey, John, Raffie devastraatee,
Speaker 2: what where would you put this in the pantheon of
Speaker 2: Red Sox trades?
Speaker 4: Dan good to be good to be on Night Side,
Speaker 4: of course, so you taking my call. But Dan, if
Speaker 4: I'm missed to Henry and as you hit the nail
Speaker 4: on the head, this guy devis he works for the
Speaker 4: Red Sox Corporation, correct.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 4: The boss me ask him, not only be a great
Speaker 4: designated hitter, Davis, would you be kind enough to play
Speaker 4: third base? And he says no, I'm paying your two
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars, which I'd like to play first base.
Speaker 2: I think it's actually about it. In total, it's about
Speaker 2: three hundred and thirty million.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'm an orthopedic surgeon, and that's ridiculous. Okay, Hey,
Speaker 4: someone pays someone to play baseball for three hundred million
Speaker 4: dollars a year.
Speaker 2: Is that capitalism? Capitalism is a wonderful thing. Could you
Speaker 2: hit the curveball?
Speaker 3: Doc? Doctor?
Speaker 2: Can you hit the curveball? That's the that's the problem
Speaker 2: that you and I both have.
Speaker 5: Is it me or not?
Speaker 4: But I'm mister Henry. I asked this guy that works
Speaker 4: for me to go ahead and do something that I'd
Speaker 4: like to have him do. Okay he tells me no.
Speaker 4: He tells me no, Okay, so I'd fire him. I'd
Speaker 4: fire him too.
Speaker 2: Well, here's my question, a doctor, uh and delighted that
Speaker 2: the surgeon will call my my my program, I'm honored.
Speaker 2: So my question is this, Yeah, No, here's my question.
Speaker 2: My question is you make a decision, and you say,
Speaker 2: you know what, we can't deal with this guy anymore.
Speaker 2: He's right, he's a he's a he's a problem in
Speaker 2: the clubhouse. Let's say that. Okay, so we're going to
Speaker 2: get rid of him. Is this the best You're going
Speaker 2: to get? A couple of pictures who have had physical
Speaker 2: injuries and control problems, and a couple of minor leaguers.
Speaker 2: They gave them away. They gave them away. You haven't
Speaker 2: you have an asset in your portfolio?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: If if you had some stock stock in your portfolio
Speaker 2: there was worth one thousand dollars a share and you had,
Speaker 2: you know, five thousand shares, would you sell that sell
Speaker 2: that stock to me for two dollars a year?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 4: Not no. But Dan, let me ask you this question. Yeah,
Speaker 4: let's say let's say let's say you own the Red Sox, right,
Speaker 4: and you asked and you asked Devers to do a
Speaker 4: certain job, right, And he said, and he said, no,
Speaker 4: how would you handle that? How would you handle that?
Speaker 3: Well? I got to be honest with you. The backstory.
Speaker 3: You have to understand.
Speaker 2: He comes to spring training as the Red Sox third baseman.
Speaker 2: Now again, he's not Brooks Robinson as a fresh fielder,
Speaker 2: but he's an adequate third baseman. Uh, And they said
Speaker 2: to him, no, you're going to be the DH. Well,
Speaker 2: it turns out that Alex Bregman, who's kind of the
Speaker 2: new kid on the block, and by the way, is
Speaker 2: older than Devers. They they sign him for third base. Okay,
Speaker 2: so they tell Devers you're going to be the DH. Well,
Speaker 2: guess why all of a sudden, Brigman gets hurt. Uh.
Speaker 2: And apparently they say we want you to go to
Speaker 2: third base and he says, no, you told me I'm
Speaker 2: a designated hitter.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I can understand that too. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, you're paying this guy no no idea
Speaker 4: what someone said, Hey, Dan, we're gonna give you a
Speaker 4: three hundred million dollars to stay at w b Z.
Speaker 2: I would consider that seriously, very seriously. God John, I
Speaker 2: appreciate the call, doctor, doctor John.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Took.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're underpaid whatever you do? What what what
Speaker 2: folks in the medical field do. They're all underpaid as
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned. Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2: Good night, All right, let me get you got room
Speaker 2: here for Tony yeah, we'll give it a shot. Six
Speaker 2: one seven two Tony and Epping, New Hampshire.
Speaker 3: Tony. You're a Red Sox fan.
Speaker 5: Big Red Sox fan, and you know, I think there
Speaker 5: is a little a little going on on both ends.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you were a professional. You get
Speaker 5: paid to do a job. You know this this guy
Speaker 5: was electric. He had the potential of you know, this
Speaker 5: exit velocity with his just acumen and the way that
Speaker 5: he approached the plate and the way that he had
Speaker 5: the offense that he you know, had for the overall team.
Speaker 3: You lose that.
Speaker 5: I thought this guy was going to be a potential
Speaker 5: home run King actually invested in a lot of his cards,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, jeezus, this guy isn't pulling
Speaker 5: off thirty five to forty like I thought. But he's
Speaker 5: still doing pretty bang up excellent. You know, I think
Speaker 5: when when you're playing a sport and they say, hey,
Speaker 5: you know, play third base or whatever, I can see
Speaker 5: him not wanting to go back after pregnant hurts. He's like, well,
Speaker 5: you know, my culture may dictate that I'm going to
Speaker 5: be possibly a little more tough headed than I should be,
Speaker 5: or my actions are going to act that way as well.
Speaker 5: And I'm just going to be a little bit like
Speaker 5: pig headed, you know, and I think that doesn't go
Speaker 5: well with ownership. And they didn't want it to spread
Speaker 5: like a tumor, you know, and that just where they
Speaker 5: said they're gonta cut tithes. But you know what this
Speaker 5: these ownership groups are so diversified, with so many other
Speaker 5: interests in the Socks that he's more caring about his
Speaker 5: frigin soccer team, right, he really cares about the Red
Speaker 5: Sox going independant race. I mean, they actually can make
Speaker 5: a run rate now when you're y because you've gotta
Speaker 5: pay some friggin dude from whatever Manchester United or whatever
Speaker 5: other place is gonna pay for him and be like, oh,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get this guy. It's it's the interest of diversified,
Speaker 5: no focus on the Socks. They don't look like the
Speaker 5: ownership team besides Bruslo whatever that is in the GM
Speaker 5: spot right.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, let me help. Let me help you
Speaker 2: out with your stats, which I think are good. He
Speaker 2: had a horrible first week of the season, we all
Speaker 2: know that, right, but he already he now has and
Speaker 2: they they're just at they're like seventy three games, they're
Speaker 2: not even at the halfway mark.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he hit the brake. He's he's got.
Speaker 2: Fifteen homers, which which puts him on a trajectory for
Speaker 2: at least thirty probably thirty five. He's got at this
Speaker 2: point fifty eight RBIs. He's going to have one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty RBIs with the Red Sox.
Speaker 3: Okay, but that that goes out the door. That's tough
Speaker 3: to replace, tough to replace.
Speaker 5: Let's say let's say he's fifteen percent of your offense.
Speaker 5: I don't know, there's numbers is probably somebody would call
Speaker 5: up on that, right, but whatever, it would be out
Speaker 5: of the lineup right for however many runs or whatever
Speaker 5: that stat he gets right for that, like, you're not
Speaker 5: replacing it with two arms like a water be arm
Speaker 5: and it may be arm in middle relief. And then
Speaker 5: two prospects like oh it was a first draft pick
Speaker 5: last year. Then why did he do well? You know,
Speaker 5: like you know you have a little bit uptick time,
Speaker 5: but you know you're got to be thrown to the
Speaker 5: fire in this league and just kind of run with it.
Speaker 2: Well, look at what look at what they got for
Speaker 2: for bets I mean, uh for Doogal is long gone.
Speaker 2: No Wong is now a backup catcher, backup catcher. And
Speaker 2: then they had a uh a kid who's who's had
Speaker 2: the same last name as Jeter. He's he's washed out
Speaker 2: of baseball, Jeter Downs. Jeter Downs was the shortstop if
Speaker 2: he was supposed to going to.
Speaker 5: Be Bogarts, right, how about Bogarts his approach to the plate,
Speaker 5: his acuim in his way. If every you know what,
Speaker 5: taking pitches, wearing pitchers down like fn an opportunity, Sure
Speaker 5: bets he'd be on first piece he's at second. Now
Speaker 5: you gotta runner and scoring position like right off the bat,
Speaker 5: you know, so you know we're losing out of that.
Speaker 5: Devra's home run ball. Wish he came into camp a
Speaker 5: little bit in better shape. You know you're coming like
Speaker 5: you already know you might be at the age. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, I hear you, I hear you. Well, I
Speaker 5: mean you don't take three weeks to get in shape.
Speaker 5: The other the other thing, ready.
Speaker 2: The other thing too is look this, by the way,
Speaker 2: I was mistaken. The Giants aren't playing tonight. They play Cleveland.
Speaker 2: They opened up tomorrow and it's the Red Sox who
Speaker 2: are playing out in Seattle tonight.
Speaker 3: Deps was was a guy who, to the.
Speaker 2: Best of my knowledge, they all get banged up, but
Speaker 2: he's never had.
Speaker 3: A serious injury.
Speaker 2: Pretty sturdy guy, and you know you could count on
Speaker 2: him for one hundred and fifty five games a year.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of production. I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2: The thing that's great about baseball, right is the end
Speaker 2: of the season. You see where they are. They happen
Speaker 2: to trade him. Uh while they had just won five
Speaker 2: in a row for the first time this season, and
Speaker 2: they had swept the Yankees, swept him on a Fenway Park.
Speaker 3: Right off, and then come.
Speaker 2: On, they pulled they pulled them, I think off the plane.
Speaker 2: They said that they the deal finally was done. They
Speaker 2: pulled him off the plane and he had to take
Speaker 2: a cab, a cab back to Fedway. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you saw the video then Channel five had, but
Speaker 2: he gets out of this little cab.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, well, I'm sure he'll be treated
Speaker 3: royally in San Francisco.
Speaker 5: Not a way to treat him. I would say, there's
Speaker 5: a little bit of shade on both sides, to tell
Speaker 5: you the truth, But you know, one thing I would
Speaker 5: say is if you get an opportunity to play first,
Speaker 5: or you're a professional, and they say you got to
Speaker 5: go back to third, maybe a response would be like,
Speaker 5: all right, I'll be ready. You know, it's just I mean,
Speaker 5: he went from a very bad third baseman to a
Speaker 5: mid range to you know, maybe a shade up or
Speaker 5: he worked on it.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah I did.
Speaker 5: Yeah right, you know, so you know what things happen.
Speaker 5: You know, there's only a TV's going for a backup
Speaker 5: pree job or a wide receiver or corners all the
Speaker 5: time in safeties like that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, there aren't too many guys in
Speaker 2: the game who have his inate ability to hit a baseball.
Speaker 2: I remember the first time I saw him playing at Patucket,
Speaker 2: I think it was in twenty seventeen, and first time
Speaker 2: in the baddest box. He just looked at me and said,
Speaker 2: this guy's different. There's something about the way he carries himself,
Speaker 2: and he's just hitting the line drives. So we'll say,
Speaker 2: we'll say it's a long season. We still have more
Speaker 2: than half of the season ago. So this is one
Speaker 2: of those experiments in a peatfre dish we're all going
Speaker 2: to be able to watch between now and the end
Speaker 2: of September.
Speaker 3: Tony, appreciate you calling.
Speaker 5: Good, Thank you real quick. I'll say I was not
Speaker 5: happy about it. That's what I wanted to tell you.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's pretty obvious, right, Thank you, Thank you, Tony.
Speaker 2: Of a great one. I got some lines available. We're
Speaker 2: talking about the Raffie Devonstraate, Devonstright. Now, look, I can
Speaker 2: talk baseball, trust me that I can talk. I can
Speaker 2: take you back to I'll take you back to the
Speaker 2: nineteen fifties Red Sox.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh and and of course historically even beyond that. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I do get it. I understand it. I think
Speaker 2: this is a dangerous move. I don't see how the
Speaker 2: Red Sox improve, and they are going to have There's
Speaker 2: some guys, I don't know, someone speculating this, maybe the
Speaker 2: three rookies. They're not going back down. Campbell and Mayor
Speaker 2: and Anthony. They're there for the ride. It's as simple
Speaker 2: as that the pitching isn't bad. That the pitching has
Speaker 2: actually come around.
Speaker 3: The bullpen's pretty good. I saw that Slayton today has
Speaker 3: a problem with his neck.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: But you know, you rest the guy up and he'll
Speaker 2: be come back a little stronger. Sometimes an injury to
Speaker 2: a pitcher during the season actually helps the pitcher because
Speaker 2: the arms, the arm gets to get refreshed. So that
Speaker 2: might work fine. But I just look at the lineup
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, Okay, let's see what happens. We'll see
Speaker 2: what happens starting built tonight. Uh in Seattle. They're facing
Speaker 2: a pretty good picture in Seattle tonight. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll score fifteen runs. Okay, six one seven, two thirty, six,
Speaker 2: one seven, nine thirty. Let's light him up. We're gonna
Speaker 2: go with this until ten o'clock.
Speaker 3: And no further. It's one hour max.
Speaker 2: And if I'm gonna talk my way through the balance
Speaker 2: of the hour, I can talk baseball for an hour.
Speaker 3: I can.
Speaker 2: I can bring you back to the days of Gene
Speaker 2: Stevens and Carol Hardy and people like that of the
Speaker 2: Red Sox outfield, or people like Eddie Pursued and Don
Speaker 2: Budden and my great friend Ted Lepsio, who was actually
Speaker 2: a really fine player for the Red Sox in the
Speaker 2: nineteen fifties. We'll come back on nightside right after this
Speaker 2: Let's talk baseball and Raffie Devers.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All right, we're talking a little baseball. Raffie Devers is gone.
Speaker 2: Here's Bill in New York.
Speaker 3: Bill. I'm not sure if you're.
Speaker 2: A Yankee fan, but I bet you're probably pretty happy
Speaker 2: to see Raffie Devers playing in the National League.
Speaker 6: Well, i'll tell you. I'm I'm a Boston fan, Okay,
Speaker 6: born in New York but left very early, and I'm
Speaker 6: a Red Sox fan through and through.
Speaker 3: Good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you. I think it was the best
Speaker 6: move the Red Sox made.
Speaker 2: You were going to be in a definite minority.
Speaker 3: Tell me why.
Speaker 6: Well, you were talking about the trade coming up soon.
Speaker 6: Get rid of him before you can't get rid of them,
Speaker 6: And get rid of the two hundred and fifty million
Speaker 6: left on his salary or his contract, and get somebody
Speaker 6: or some other people that could come in and do
Speaker 6: a little bit of what he did. But if you have,
Speaker 6: we go back to Beckett in the in the in
Speaker 6: the locker room or the clubhouse with the beers and
Speaker 6: chicken fried chicken.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got you gotta get rid of the.
Speaker 6: Cancer I think he was making. He was he was
Speaker 6: creating a problem within the organization, and I think they
Speaker 6: got rid of him just in time before he corrupted
Speaker 6: a lot of other people.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a different that's a different take. And I'm
Speaker 2: sure Craig Breslow is listening. He's happy to hear that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what. Look he has always been Has
Speaker 2: he ever been a problem child with this organization for
Speaker 2: the eight years he's played here.
Speaker 6: No, But I'll tell you, like like your last call
Speaker 6: has said. You know, if mister Henry says, hey, I
Speaker 6: need you to do this, and he says, no, you
Speaker 6: made me a DH. I need you to do this. No,
Speaker 6: you made me a DH. And that's what I'm doing
Speaker 6: when I hit the ball. Well, you're not hitting the
Speaker 6: ball all that well all the time.
Speaker 2: And are the country the guy has? The guy has
Speaker 2: fifty eight RBIs they're not halfway through the season. That
Speaker 2: puts him on the track for about one hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty RBIs. That's not a bad year. Thirty five home
Speaker 2: rounds not bad?
Speaker 6: Is it worth two hundred and fifty million this.
Speaker 3: Day and age?
Speaker 2: It very well might be very well by the way
Speaker 2: they play. They're paid a lot of people a lot
Speaker 2: of money. I mean, you know, what do you want
Speaker 2: him to do? You know, play for half the price?
Speaker 2: I don't know you you're oh, I understand the point
Speaker 2: you're making. You either remember the team or you're not,
Speaker 2: is what you're saying to me. And I I generally
Speaker 2: buy into that philosophy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'm a veteran of the army and
Speaker 6: and I always, uh, I was brought up you do
Speaker 6: what you're gonna do for the whole team.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I get it. And you weren't.
Speaker 2: You weren't making anywhere near three hundred and thirty million
Speaker 2: when you're in the army.
Speaker 3: I'm getting I know that.
Speaker 6: No, no, no. When I when I got out on
Speaker 6: ninety six, I think my monthly salary was uh nine
Speaker 6: and ninety eight dollars for the month.
Speaker 3: Wow? Uh what what was what was your rank? H?
Speaker 5: E four E four E four?
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, Look, thank you for your service, and
Speaker 2: thank you for your call. This is a really thoughtful
Speaker 2: phone call. And let's see how it works out. To me,
Speaker 2: if the Red Sox get rolling here and they they
Speaker 2: they make the playoffs, everyone's going to look back on
Speaker 2: this as the trade for when they traded Nomar Gassia Para. Uh.
Speaker 2: If you remember back in two thousand and four, Gaussian
Speaker 2: Para was kind of hurt, wasn't particularly playing well, And
Speaker 2: that was the game that Jeter leaped into the stands.
Speaker 2: He looked like Superman going into the stands to catch
Speaker 2: a foul ball. And all of a sudden, people were
Speaker 2: looking at Gassia Para and Jeter and saying, boy, I
Speaker 2: wish we had Jeter. And they traded Gassia Para and
Speaker 2: I thought that he was a pretty good player. But
Speaker 2: they won the pennant that year and they won the
Speaker 2: World Series. So if they replicate that feat this year,
Speaker 2: they're going to look back on the demonstrade and say,
Speaker 2: not a bad deal.
Speaker 6: If I got one other thing to say, Dan, if
Speaker 6: you don't mind, I was. I was at Fenway Park
Speaker 6: when they had the Jerry Remi day when they gave
Speaker 6: out the the patches or the number number two I
Speaker 6: ride motorcycle. I put that on my vest and I
Speaker 6: was up in New York and I had a guy
Speaker 6: I'm gassing up my bike. I had a guy say
Speaker 6: to me, hey, I knew Jerry Remy. He'd be so
Speaker 6: proud of you wearing that number two.
Speaker 3: Good for you, Good for you.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Remy.
Speaker 2: Remy was a local guy, grew up at Somerset and
Speaker 2: he made it. He made it for the Red Sox,
Speaker 2: not only as a player, pretty good second basement, but
Speaker 2: a great sidekick announcer, color guy. Absolutely, Thank you, Belle,
Speaker 2: appreciate you call very much. Talk to you soon.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Dan, call anytime.
Speaker 2: We'll take a quick break. Coming right back on night Side.
Speaker 2: The only lines open right now are six one, seven.
Speaker 2: I got Tim, Bob and Joe.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: If I get through them, I might be able to
Speaker 2: get to you. If you call six months, the nine, three,
Speaker 2: ten thirty back on Nightside. We will change topics at
Speaker 2: ten o'clock that, I promise you, and we're going to
Speaker 2: be talking with the Israeli console General here in New England.
Speaker 2: My guest is a console general, uh Benny SHARONI. And
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the Middle East for a
Speaker 2: little bit, and then we're going to talk about violence,
Speaker 2: political violence in America. Too much of it and too
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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio.
Speaker 3: Well, let's keep rolling.
Speaker 2: He's going to go to Tim and Ruber and Tim,
Speaker 2: what do you think about the Rapie devonstrate.
Speaker 7: Well, I'll tell you Raffie Devils is a great ballplayer.
Speaker 3: He can hit, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: He can wake up at three o'clock in the morning
Speaker 2: and hit.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 7: Anything with the trade, with the trade. I don't know
Speaker 7: if you know this, but yeah, right, number eighth of
Speaker 7: the sock h His grandson plays in San Francisco night.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that Mike absolutely sure played Clay in the
Speaker 2: college ball down down south.
Speaker 7: He was he was playing at Vanderbilt really and the
Speaker 7: first time he played a Samway Park, Yas was there
Speaker 7: and his mother and father were there, and he hit
Speaker 7: a home run.
Speaker 3: Yep, I think he had about the first pitch that.
Speaker 2: I think Yas had the ability to throw out the
Speaker 2: first pitch that day.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 7: He Now. I'm a big baseball man. I played baseball, football, baseball,
Speaker 7: ran track. But this isn't about me. It's about Rafiel
Speaker 7: Devis Now. I think his contract is for two hundred
Speaker 7: and eighty four million guaranteed three thirty.
Speaker 2: Three thirty yep, and they've already gone through it a
Speaker 2: couple of years. So this I think it's two fifty
Speaker 2: is left. So the Giants have assumed two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars to pay off.
Speaker 3: The balance of his contract.
Speaker 7: Jewelmber the movie with Tom Who's and Cuba Goodies Junior,
Speaker 7: show me the money?
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 7: Sure they're showing them the money. Good for them, Well.
Speaker 2: The Red Sox decided to get rid of them. It's
Speaker 2: a big gamble for the Red Sox. I don't think
Speaker 2: they got much in return, so we'll we'll have to
Speaker 2: see how it works out. If the Red Sox play
Speaker 2: better baseball in the second half of the season, then
Speaker 2: it'll be considered a success. If they don't, it will
Speaker 2: be considered a mistake.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 7: I think they got two pitches, right, young guys. Baseball
Speaker 7: is eighty five percent nine percent pitching. And anyhow, and
Speaker 7: the long one I love Cora Cora anyhow, and the
Speaker 7: long one. We'll see what the pitching does.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see both. Neither of them have been outstanding.
Speaker 2: They're oh, they're they're they're they're a couple of pitchers.
Speaker 2: But you know, we'll have to see. I mean, let's
Speaker 2: see what happens by the end of the season, and
Speaker 2: we will. We'll do something on this sometime towards the
Speaker 2: end of September. Hey, Tim, thanks so much for the
Speaker 2: call as always, my friend, Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: And can I say one more thing? Sure, go ahead,
Speaker 7: and yeah, I called you on your OFFI a number
Speaker 7: on Bob's Day and I said, Happy Father's Day. You're
Speaker 7: a great father.
Speaker 2: I was. I was about to thank you for that
Speaker 2: that message. I appreciated him right back at you, Tim, Okay, thank.
Speaker 3: You, my friend.
Speaker 7: Keep up a good work. Thank you, talk to you.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling. He gonna go to Bob in California.
Speaker 2: Bob is not a raffie Devers guy. I don't think,
Speaker 2: Hey Bob next to a nightside haw wayre.
Speaker 9: You Dan doing well? Hope you're doing okay too.
Speaker 3: Hope you are great.
Speaker 4: To hear your voice, thank you.
Speaker 9: Likewise, yes, and you're correct, And the bottom line is okay.
Speaker 9: Devers is lucky, very lucky. So the guy like me
Speaker 9: is not general manager. It's not Craig Brizil because I
Speaker 9: would have called him in and said, okay, you're refusing
Speaker 9: to be d h and then recently, he refused to
Speaker 9: play for a space and I would have said to him, you,
Speaker 9: just what did your contract? Because you're refusing to play
Speaker 9: the contract is voided and I want to cut him.
Speaker 2: Well, you would have saved two hundred and fifty dollars,
Speaker 2: I guess, assuming that the Major League Baseball Players Association
Speaker 2: didn't sue you, but you probably bought yourself a lawsuit.
Speaker 9: Persol did the right thing. In my opinion, he did
Speaker 9: the right thing. Just get rid of him. I agree
Speaker 9: with the New York caller, he's a cancer. Okay. The
Speaker 9: player does not decide. They don't decide where they play.
Speaker 9: Imagine if players, Imagine if all twenty five players every
Speaker 9: night decided, oh, I'm going to play this position or
Speaker 9: that position. Okay, I get it.
Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of there's a lot of support
Speaker 2: for Craig Breslow here on the program. I think I
Speaker 2: think the majority of the callers are are not favorably
Speaker 2: inclined towards mister Devers.
Speaker 9: Devers. The New York caller is right, Devers is a
Speaker 9: cancer to the team. Good luck to the Giants. Okay,
Speaker 9: different sport. But Bill Black, oh, he schoosed to talk
Speaker 9: about teamwork. Okay, and if you're not me oriented, and
Speaker 9: that includes members of the Boston Red Sox, get rid
Speaker 9: of them.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
Speaker 2: Shut all right, thank you, Bob. Talk soon about soon
Speaker 2: there you Okay, Joe and Belmont, Joe, you're gonna wrap
Speaker 2: the our office.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, Joe'll only be seventy seconds. I think the
Speaker 8: trade is going to hurt the Red Sox offense. And
Speaker 8: I got a trivia question, Jim Womberg nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 8: Who were the three Red Sox second basement and they
Speaker 8: were all good hitters.
Speaker 2: Reggie Smith here was an on field opening He was
Speaker 2: the opening day second Basement in nineteen sixty seven. Mike Andrews.
Speaker 2: You asked for three names, so I'm gonna give you
Speaker 2: Red Smith, Mike Andrews. And I'm not sure who the
Speaker 2: third one was. Who's the third one?
Speaker 8: Chuck showing Jerry no.
Speaker 3: No no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 2: Shilling came up and see with Yastremsky played two years
Speaker 2: with the Red Sox, was out of baseball by sixty
Speaker 2: three and ended up as a teacher. And when the
Speaker 2: Red Sox opened the nineteen sixty seven season, Chuck Shilling
Speaker 2: was teaching at a Long Island High school.
Speaker 8: I saw Jim Bunny pitch you no hitro like you did.
Speaker 2: Fifty eight against the Red Sox. Yeah, Tigers against against
Speaker 2: for the Tigers against the Red Sox. Ted Williams was
Speaker 2: the last hitter. Flew out to al k Line.
Speaker 8: I got L K lines autograph. You know how he
Speaker 8: signed his name, yep O K K and a line, right,
Speaker 8: I got it.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. Don't leave, don't lose that one.
Speaker 2: That's a Hall of Fame one. Hey, Joe, great call.
Speaker 2: I love your questions. Double check yourself on Chuck Shilling.
Speaker 2: He was done by sixty three or sixty four. Might
Speaker 2: have gotten half a season with the Mets.
Speaker 8: Jesus loves you, Dan, I know that.
Speaker 3: I know that. Thank you, Joe, appreciate it very much.
Speaker 8: God Puss right back at you.
Speaker 3: Good night.
Speaker 2: Okay, we've done with this. When we get back on
Speaker 2: the other side, we're going to be talking with the
Speaker 2: Israeli Console General Benny Sharon SHARONI about what's going on
Speaker 2: between Israel and Iran. And I think most of you
Speaker 2: know whose side I'm on on that one, and I
Speaker 2: hope most of you are on the same side, we'll
Speaker 2: be back on night side with Consul General Benni Sharoni
Speaker 2: right after the ten o'clock news here on Nightside,