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<v Speaker 1>Ready, get ready for the chilling effect. And now and

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<v Speaker 1>now most of must iterated voice in all media, the

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<v Speaker 1>alternatives alternative Chuck O'Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening, It is December eighth, according to that thing

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<v Speaker 2>we call a calendar, twenty fifteen, and we are live

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<v Speaker 2>on the Ocelli Effect tonight. You know, my guest this

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<v Speaker 2>evening is actually somebody that I've wanted to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>for quite a bit, for various reasons. Roger Stone. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he wrote a book that, well, the most recent book.

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually written several books. But he's a political insider,

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who's fairly fascinating if you check the gop

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<v Speaker 2>roster over the years, this guy worked for everybody from

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<v Speaker 2>Nixon to Regan, yeah, right on into the Donald Trump land.

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<v Speaker 2>But his most recent book, actually, which I just got yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>is The Clinton's War on Women, right Roger Stone, and

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<v Speaker 2>also co authored by Robert Moral, which makes it quite

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating of course. Uh, you know, but he has not

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<v Speaker 2>quite joined me just yet, So I'm going to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about this, uh and see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully he'll be on the skype rather shortly, mister Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>You might have seen him on a CNN and all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff recently, you know, commenting about a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of different things that relate to the GOP campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>There he is, mister Stone, we don't actually need the video.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>We're no, they're lighting testing it because are we look

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<v Speaker 3>terrible on a bunch of shows today. So it's fine, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So how are you doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Great? Excellent, very very cool.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I found this book extremely fascinating. I've really

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<v Speaker 2>only gotten a chance to go through it on I see,

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<v Speaker 2>I read books about three times because I'm just that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of guy. I have to go through a book

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<v Speaker 2>one time to get my initial impression, then I go

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<v Speaker 2>through it once again, examining each and every individual nugget

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<v Speaker 2>of information. And then the third time I actually read

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<v Speaker 2>the book. You know, that's the.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of you know, I think the book stands on

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<v Speaker 3>its own, very well sourced and very well footnoted. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I spent forty years in American politics. I know a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I was talking about that just before you

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<v Speaker 2>joined me, and really I can't do justice to the

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<v Speaker 2>type of career that you've had. Now I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>just tell you something right away. I am not somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who is a GOP guy. I'm not somebody I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you. The last time that I cast a

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<v Speaker 2>vote for president, it was for one of the people

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<v Speaker 2>on the cover of this book right now. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I was younger, I was much more foolish and had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what I was doing, quite honestly. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact is, I've found no use for either side of

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, two party system.

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<v Speaker 3>But this time in the set, we're basically in the

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<v Speaker 3>same place I just got. I got there by it

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<v Speaker 3>being a Republican and now I'm disgusted because both parties

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<v Speaker 3>had become one part the Wall Street Party, Special Interest Party,

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<v Speaker 3>the Endless War Party, the Erosion of Civil Liberties Party.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm kind of down on both parties, having been

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<v Speaker 3>a forty year product of the system. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and see, that's the thing is I actually wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to defend you for a moment because a couple of people,

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<v Speaker 2>when they heard I was going to have you on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, they said, you know, this guy has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>but somebody who supports GOP people, and this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>yet again, another one of these hatchet jobs going against

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<v Speaker 2>the Clintons. But I got to tell you something, being

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<v Speaker 2>someone who tries to examine things from a neutral perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>these offices in what I feel is an objective manner. Really, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>you did a hell of a job in this book

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<v Speaker 2>laying it out in a way that I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>anybody go after it when it comes to the Clintons,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm really, really quite impressed. I've never seen anybody

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<v Speaker 2>do this. I mean, not even for parties and politics purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>As you know, this has a it has a theme

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<v Speaker 3>to it, and the theme is hypocrisy. What Hillary central claim.

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<v Speaker 3>Her narrative that I am an advocate for women and

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<v Speaker 3>girls is farcical. She hasn't been an abuser of women

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<v Speaker 3>in the sense that she has psychologically terrorized Bill's various

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<v Speaker 3>sexual assault victims, and her husband, quite sadly, is a

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Cosby style sexual predator. I'm not talking about consensual sex, girlfriends, mistresses,

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<v Speaker 3>one night stands, conquests. I'm not talking about any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about something far darker, rape, sexual assault, brutal,

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<v Speaker 3>vicious and repeatedly, and I name names. I interviewed twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four women I took the literature by a number of

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<v Speaker 3>incredible authors. There have been over sixty biographies of Bill

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<v Speaker 3>and Hillary Clinton, but very few have cobbled it all together.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't a moral hypocritical couple, whether it's whether it's

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<v Speaker 3>being an advocate for women and girls, whether it is

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<v Speaker 3>being an advocate for children, when she is, in fact

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<v Speaker 3>the person who ordered the all out terror assault, snipers, vehicles,

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<v Speaker 3>loud music, the whole assault that killed eighteen children under

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<v Speaker 3>the age of eight in Waco, her hand picked attorney general,

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<v Speaker 3>her hand picked deputy, and former lover Web Hubble, the

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<v Speaker 3>assistant Attorney General who runs the operation. Both Senator Arlen Specter,

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<v Speaker 3>who chaired the Senate hearings on Waco, and T. March Bell,

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<v Speaker 3>the chief investigator for the House committee that investigated Waco,

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<v Speaker 3>said there was evidence that co President Hillary Clinton gave

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<v Speaker 3>the final order. Not an advocate for children, No, absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>And even you know those that would say, well, gee,

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<v Speaker 2>you're picking on Hillary. No, it's not just her. In

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<v Speaker 2>this book I've actually seen for the first time because

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<v Speaker 2>I've always heard rumors about, you know, Bill Clinton's personal

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<v Speaker 2>dealings when it came to children and being a children's advocate.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of people point out that there

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<v Speaker 2>was sort of a change in the child's support system

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<v Speaker 2>during the Clinton regime and all of that, But then again, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>the same as hypocrisy here. What do you you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you want to tell people. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if this is one of the key selling

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<v Speaker 2>points of the book, but I think one of.

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<v Speaker 3>The key points here is that Hillary tells us black

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<v Speaker 3>lives matter, but the Clintons will not acknowledge Bill's abandoned, rejected,

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<v Speaker 3>mixed race son, Danny Williams. Danny Williams a fine young man.

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<v Speaker 3>He's thirty years old this week. There's a big party

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<v Speaker 3>for him this Friday. He is the son of Bobby

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<v Speaker 3>Ann Williams, a cocaine addicted prostitute, and William Jefferson Clinton.

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<v Speaker 3>And when his mother and his aunt, Lucille Bolton took

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<v Speaker 3>him to the Governor's mansion to appeal to Hillary that

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<v Speaker 3>they acknowledge and support their own they were turned away

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<v Speaker 3>by state troopers, and Hillary sent a messenger the next

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<v Speaker 3>day saying that that she could get them a lawyer

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<v Speaker 3>who would a private investigator who could intimidate reporters who

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<v Speaker 3>are asking too many questions. That's the message she sends.

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<v Speaker 3>They have never acknowledged loved supported Danny Williams. Danny is

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<v Speaker 3>a fine young man. He has five children of his own.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a churchgoer, He's put himself through college and he's

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<v Speaker 3>in his last year. He has a small business. He

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<v Speaker 3>struggles financially. Meanwhile, his father, Bill Clinton, is worth best

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<v Speaker 3>estimates one hundred million dollars thirty five million that he

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<v Speaker 3>made last year alone in the influence pedaling build business right.

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<v Speaker 2>The Clinton Foundation or whatever they call it, This.

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<v Speaker 3>Foundation is not a charity. It's a slush fund for grifters.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a luxury travel service for Bill Hillary and Chelsea

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<v Speaker 3>five star hotels and suites, exquisite private jets, the finest

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<v Speaker 3>food money can buy, and salaries for a phalanx of flunkies,

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<v Speaker 3>political operatives, hangers on that serve in Hillary worlds. And

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<v Speaker 3>the charitable work is negligible and it's infected with corruption

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<v Speaker 3>side dealing because in all honesty, and I think you

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<v Speaker 3>know this, the main purpose for the Clinton Foundation is

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<v Speaker 3>as a vehicle for the facilitation of multimillion dollar bribes.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is all carefully documented, not only in my book,

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<v Speaker 3>but in Peter Schweitzer's fine book Clinton Cash, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>has transpired. We know a lot of things about that.

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<v Speaker 3>The federal filings of the Clinton Foundation are missing information,

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<v Speaker 3>They're fraudulent, they have to be restated. The irs would

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<v Speaker 3>have closed any other charity down who is guilty of

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<v Speaker 3>of these kinds of gross errors. There's a whole other

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<v Speaker 3>scandal waiting to happen on top of what we already know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, I mean, and it just seems as though,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this guy has been like the teflon political

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<v Speaker 2>figure throughout his career in Hillary as well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm amazed when examining before I read your book, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just examining these bits and pieces that have been spotlighted

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<v Speaker 2>in certain people's work before you know that there were

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<v Speaker 2>no major lawsuits. Nobody went after these people because they

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to be telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, look, and this is not out of

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<v Speaker 3>the mainstream. It was NBC who found Juanita Broadbrick, who

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<v Speaker 3>filmed her incredible twenty twenty interview, which you can still

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<v Speaker 3>see on YouTube. Was a brilliant journalist, Lisa Myers. I

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<v Speaker 3>know that Lisa was frustrated because she found and chasing

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<v Speaker 3>filmed this story, and then it sat there at NBC

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<v Speaker 3>for months and they refused to run it. They ran

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<v Speaker 3>it only after the impeachment vote. The work of Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Izakov with Newsweek, previously with Newsday, now with NBC, where

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<v Speaker 3>he had traced the violation of Liz Ward Grayson, a

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<v Speaker 3>former Miss Arkansas, a Miss America who tells her roommate

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<v Speaker 3>that she was raped by Bill Clinton and tells others

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<v Speaker 3>she was raped by Bill Clinton until Harry Thomason, a

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<v Speaker 3>big Hollywood agent friend of Bill's, gets her a bit

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<v Speaker 3>part in a TV show. Now, she says the sex

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<v Speaker 3>was rough and unpleasurable, but that the but the sex

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<v Speaker 3>with Bill Clinton was consensual. Her roommate Stokes, testified three

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<v Speaker 3>times under oath that that's not what Liz Ward Grayson

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<v Speaker 3>had told her in the beginning. So it's a very tangled,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tale here, But each one of these women is.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's interesting is that talking to twenty four women,

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<v Speaker 3>many of whom never spoke to each other, they all

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<v Speaker 3>described the exact same horrific scene, Bill Clinton turning beat red,

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<v Speaker 3>sweating his temples, and the veins in his neck sticking

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<v Speaker 3>out breathing heavily, what some women have called his rape mode.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's terrifying. Just the other day, Hillary said that

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<v Speaker 3>women who were on college campuses were involved in sexual

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<v Speaker 3>assault deserve to be believed, and when asked, not by

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<v Speaker 3>the media who are the ones who should be asking

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<v Speaker 3>the question, but by a voter in New Hampshire, woman said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>what about Winnie to Broaderick, what about Kathleen Willie, what

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<v Speaker 3>about Paula Corbin Jones? Don't they deserve to be believed?

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<v Speaker 3>And Hillary's response was, well, they deserve to be believed

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<v Speaker 3>until evidence shows otherwise. What evidence is she referring to?

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<v Speaker 3>There is not an iota of evidence that any of

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<v Speaker 3>the women who've made these allegations have been debunked or disproved,

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<v Speaker 3>or that any evidence brings into question their account of

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<v Speaker 3>their assault. Three women individually say that they had their

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<v Speaker 3>upper lift bit almost through. How could you invent such

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<v Speaker 3>a thing? So the idea that this is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>this is trailer trash being paid by the tabloids to

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<v Speaker 3>make up things, which was their standard defense. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>when this stuff for serviced in the nineties. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 3>not just that. Jerry Folwell stuff because Folwell had financed

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<v Speaker 3>some of the early investigations into the sexploits and drugs

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<v Speaker 3>and greed of Bill and Hillary Clinton. And let's just say.

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<v Speaker 2>This, I mean, and you did bring it all together

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<v Speaker 2>in this book. Again, I say it. It's been one

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<v Speaker 3>And here's one of the very interesting things, which is

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<v Speaker 3>in my book, and they had it well organized and documented.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, one of the things I tell you is

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<v Speaker 3>that Lee Atwater, my former partner, Republican National chairman, Bush

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<v Speaker 3>who could bring back blue collar and white Democrats in

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<v Speaker 3>and this information was ascertained. But then Bush George H. W.

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<v Speaker 3>Bush Poppy number forty one. He decided that he could

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<v Speaker 2>In all honesty, well, that was definitely part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact is that it seemed to me like, now,

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<v Speaker 2>And it seemed as though originally they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened here, because all of a sudden, like

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<v Speaker 2>of the campaign trail. Some of these things started to

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<v Speaker 3>Here's one of the interesting things. The pivotal moment there

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<v Speaker 3>now deceased. In his memoirs, He basically said, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>made it a TV commercial for Clinton. I cleaned it up.

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<v Speaker 3>I made it as sympathetic as possible. That's not his job.

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<v Speaker 3>This is supposed to be a news program. Secondarily, though,

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<v Speaker 3>and here's the problem. Bill says in that interview that

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<v Speaker 3>he was only with his mistress, his twelve year mistress,

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<v Speaker 3>Jennifer Flowers one time. See that had leaked just ahead

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<v Speaker 3>He's on the verge of being knocked out of the race.

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<v Speaker 3>He does his stunning interview. Now, unfortunately, there's a man

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<v Speaker 3>has a security camera set up, not because he's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to catch Bill Clinton, but because his car has been

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<v Speaker 3>repeatedly vandalized and he's trying to figure out who's vandalizing

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<v Speaker 3>his car. But what he catches is not car criminals,

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<v Speaker 3>but instead Bill Clinton coming and going many many times.

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<v Speaker 3>That's on video. One night, three Arkansas State troopers show

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<v Speaker 3>up at his home and they beat him so badly

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<v Speaker 3>they leave him for dead, dislocating both of his shoulders,

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<v Speaker 3>his arms, crushing his face in his nasal passages, lacerating

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<v Speaker 3>his kidney, his spleen, and his liver. Johnson lives. Neighbors

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<v Speaker 3>were quoted as saying they could hear men yelling where

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<v Speaker 3>are the effing videos? Where are the video? This is

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<v Speaker 3>the kind of criminal tampering and physical violence against witnesses,

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<v Speaker 3>strong arm tactics that the Clintons were willing to resort

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<v Speaker 2>See now, And if you read Clinton's biography, which I did,

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<v Speaker 2>ado about nothing regarding the way the Arkansas State troopers

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<v Speaker 2>were handled. And he points to the whole situation with

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<v Speaker 2>his brother Roger. Right now, we all know this story.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, anybody who's ever paid attention to this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>knows that, you know, Roger Clinton had gotten caught for

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<v Speaker 2>cocaine and all this other stuff, right, But he portrays

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<v Speaker 2>it as you know, listen, I took a hands off approach,

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<v Speaker 3>So he just didn't address it. First of all, he

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<v Speaker 3>can't say too much because of course, he is his

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<v Speaker 3>time snorting cocaine with underage girls when he was Attorney

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<v Speaker 3>General and probably when he was governor. So his predilection

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<v Speaker 3>for underage girls, which may or may not be present

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<v Speaker 3>in the Epstein scandal, we don't know that yet. There

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<v Speaker 3>is a pending lawsuit. But we do know that Bill

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<v Speaker 3>was paling around with a convicted sex criminal with a

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<v Speaker 3>propensity for underage girls, who the Palm Beach Police found

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<v Speaker 3>had violated thirty three underage girls. And that is well

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<v Speaker 3>covered in the book. But things ultimately would take a

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<v Speaker 3>giant campaign contribution or I pardon me, a foundation contribution

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<v Speaker 3>from this fellow never returned it Epstein. And then additionally,

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<v Speaker 3>Epstein arranges for Bill Clinton to fly on Epstein's plane,

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<v Speaker 3>the sex criminals plane, to meet the Sultan of Brunei

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<v Speaker 3>in Brunei to pick off a two point five million

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<v Speaker 3>dollar check for the Clinton Library. The Sultan is, of

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<v Speaker 3>course a known pedophile who keeps an underage female and

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh see. I didn't know how much in depth you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go on all these subjects, you know, on

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<v Speaker 2>this interview tonight because we didn't script this.

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<v Speaker 3>Or plan this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not using the bullet points.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give you some of the highlights of

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<v Speaker 3>the book that people just their jaws drop when you

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<v Speaker 3>have these things, well, exactly when you and and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you people, when you put all this stuff together

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<v Speaker 3>the way that Roger has here, it is just really

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<v Speaker 2>And I view almost all of these guys in the

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<v Speaker 2>upp Retelan as criminals. But really, when you, when you

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<v Speaker 2>put this stuff together, as you said, copple it together

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<v Speaker 2>in one place, it is an amazing indictment of the hypocrisy,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just astounding.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, as you know, for those who say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, Roger Stone's a Republican, he's a right winger,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a hit man, he's a dirty trickster. My book

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<v Speaker 3>January twenty fifth, Jeb and the Bush Crime Family, which

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<v Speaker 3>not only covers the attempt, the current attempt to restore

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<v Speaker 3>the House of Bush Jeb, but who's all the way

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<v Speaker 3>back to his grandfather, Prescott Bush, who made money arming

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<v Speaker 3>the Nazis, running a steel mill with slave labor from

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<v Speaker 3>Auschwitz other profitable enterprises. Then there's George W. Bush, who

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<v Speaker 3>is Vice president, really engineers ran contras, signs most of

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<v Speaker 3>the documents moving drug money, drugs and money all around

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<v Speaker 3>illegally finance the Nick Roguin rebels in violation of the

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<v Speaker 3>Boling Amendment, a specific law pass prohibiting such which would

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<v Speaker 3>end up many Bush aids indicted. Bush would lay later

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<v Speaker 3>pardon all of them before leaving office. So we do

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<v Speaker 3>know that Bill Clinton was the governor who worked closely

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<v Speaker 3>with Vice President George Bush to traffic millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 3>of cocaine through Mina, Arkansas. Barry Seal. This story is

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely sordid and true story of the Bushes and the

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<v Speaker 3>Clintons dealing in the drug business and making having the

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<v Speaker 3>state troopers look the other way. By the way, it's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting that the Central Intelligence Agency had tried to traffic

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<v Speaker 3>and the state police would not go along because the

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<v Speaker 3>why they ended up in Arkansas, where they had a

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, and I'm actually going to cover that a

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<v Speaker 3>To know that. Wow, I in for that. That will

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<v Speaker 3>be an amazing interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and and Selly tells you a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff about the inside dirt that was going on there.

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<v Speaker 2>But so stay tuned for that. Sorry to throw out

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to a lot of the stuff that people

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<v Speaker 2>at the society. I mean, the scourge of heroin on

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<v Speaker 2>the streets right now that we see is directly relatable

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<v Speaker 2>in my estimation. Now this may not be your viewpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's directly relatable in my estimation to our incursion

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<v Speaker 2>in Afghanistan, just like it was in the nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 2>and we were in you know, sixties and seventies, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>when we were in Vietnam unfortunately, you know, in dealing

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<v Speaker 2>in heroin, in dealing in heroin, and then when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the you know, why was there this big

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<v Speaker 2>bump in the cocaine industry in the you know the listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is a very key point you raise,

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<v Speaker 3>which people don't realize that Ross Perot really wasn't independent,

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<v Speaker 3>and he really was very concerned about the plight of POW's.

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<v Speaker 3>And he really felt strong that we'd left many men

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<v Speaker 3>behind in Vietnam from the Vietnam conflicts. So he hired

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<v Speaker 3>when he couldn't get any satisfaction from the federal government,

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<v Speaker 3>and they started poking around Asia. They didn't find POW's,

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<v Speaker 3>and the government running. When they reported back to Parole

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<v Speaker 3>what they had learned, Perou rushed to Washington to meet

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<v Speaker 3>Vice President George Bush, who he thought was a friend

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<v Speaker 3>of his and fellow Texan. He was certain that Bush

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<v Speaker 3>would be shocked. This is according to Tom Lukes, who

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<v Speaker 3>to them that he Bush looks at Perot and his

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<v Speaker 3>answer is a grim smile. From that point on, Ross

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<v Speaker 3>Perot was the dedicated to the destruction of Bush. As

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<v Speaker 3>I say in this book, Parot and Clinton were talking

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<v Speaker 3>by phone at least once a day, according to Clinton's

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<v Speaker 3>bodyguard L. D. Brown, and Clinton was talking to Ross

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<v Speaker 3>about campaign strategy. This was a pincer movement that indeed

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<v Speaker 3>it did cost George Bush Senior the presidency. The siphoning

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<v Speaker 3>of more conservative and reform votes to Paro not only

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<v Speaker 3>costs Bush, but it was done twice by Clinton because

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<v Speaker 3>it also costs Bob Dole, remembering that Parau voted ran

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<v Speaker 3>in four years. Hence, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And the truth is that when people try and separate

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<v Speaker 2>these things and things that they're divided to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bipartisan lines, it really looks to me more like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the the Bush dynasty runs thusly. You have

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<v Speaker 2>having a lot of influence over the Reagan administration, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>deep covert stuff that was going on during the Reagan administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Then at presidency of his own when things went wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're very right to mention, Ross Perot is going

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as being very interested in the American POW's

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<v Speaker 2>and Vietnam, you know, and all of that. It cost

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<v Speaker 2>him there, But you know what, they really handed it

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<v Speaker 2>the Bush crime syndicate.

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<v Speaker 3>make I would make a couple of points that Perot

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<v Speaker 3>is absolutely a patriot, and you're right about that. But

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<v Speaker 3>in ninety two, I just think that this was almost

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<v Speaker 3>an intramural. Remember, cord Meyer says in his book that

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<v Speaker 3>after Clinton was kicked out of Oxford, where he raped

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<v Speaker 3>a nineteen year old, he spent the entire four months

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<v Speaker 3>before he headed off to Yale for law school working

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<v Speaker 3>for the Central Intelligence Agency as an informant in filtrating

422
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<v Speaker 3>anti Vietnam war groups. So he and George H. W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 3>who really begins not in nineteen in the seventies when

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<v Speaker 3>he's appointed directory, but according to documents declassified by the

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<v Speaker 3>federal government nineteen eighty five, is working for the CIA

426
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<v Speaker 3>on the Bay of Pigs mission as early as nineteen

427
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<v Speaker 3>sixty one, essentially raising money from right wingers. So his

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<v Speaker 3>involvement that they have the CIA tie together and they

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<v Speaker 3>make money together. The Bushes aren't all that sore about

430
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<v Speaker 3>losing to the Clintons. They've raked off millions for their

431
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<v Speaker 3>libraries and millions for these nonprofits. The Bushes and the

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<v Speaker 3>Clintons come together, they form a nonprofit for hurricane relief

433
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<v Speaker 3>in Haiti. They raise one hundred and thirty eight million dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>they spend ten million dollars on the ground in Haiti

435
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<v Speaker 3>and housing, and they pocked the other one hundred and

436
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<v Speaker 3>twenty eight It's Bush. It is indeed, the Bush Clinton

437
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<v Speaker 3>crime syndicate off a teering off these so called charitable activities.

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<v Speaker 2>And always it seems capitalizing on the misery of others,

439
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<v Speaker 2>you know, over and over again. That that's how I

440
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<v Speaker 2>view the whole thing. Is whether it is the drug

441
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.839
<v Speaker 2>scourge which did a lot of damage, you know, domestically

442
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:19.559
<v Speaker 2>in this country in the in the eighties and nineties,

443
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<v Speaker 2>which did a lot of damage previous to that, just

444
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<v Speaker 2>like we were talking about with the connection to the

445
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<v Speaker 2>Golden Triangle there in Vietnam. You know, he he's involved there,

446
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<v Speaker 2>he's involved, you know. And and here's the funny thing

447
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<v Speaker 2>is that Clinton basically becomes a placeholder because after that

448
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<v Speaker 2>we end up with well w coming in, you know,

449
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<v Speaker 2>and and I just do all this to put it

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<v Speaker 2>in context. I do want to focus on the Clintons here,

451
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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just trying to put this in context.

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<v Speaker 3>You make a very very good point. George W. Bush

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<v Speaker 3>says that Bill is like his brother, which means Hillary

454
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<v Speaker 3>is like his sister in law. Jeb gave Hillary a

455
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<v Speaker 3>medal for her for her the job she did at

456
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<v Speaker 3>the State Department between Benghazi and losing control of virtually

457
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<v Speaker 3>every Middle Eastern country to some anti Islamic maniac. She

458
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<v Speaker 3>has no other accomplishments other than hiding her email because

459
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.559
<v Speaker 3>she wants to hide the nexus the Clinton Foundation and

460
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<v Speaker 3>State Department. Look, this is the real story of the

461
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.400
<v Speaker 3>toppling of Kadafi in Libya. He was a US ally,

462
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<v Speaker 3>he was feeding US intelligence, he had been pro Western

463
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<v Speaker 3>for almost twenty years. A madman, yeah, probably, But the

464
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<v Speaker 3>quality of living for women in Libya was the best

465
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<v Speaker 3>of any country on the Northern Continent in terms of

466
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<v Speaker 3>women could go to school, they could go to college,

467
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<v Speaker 3>they could be educated, they could choose their own husbands,

468
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<v Speaker 3>they could drive a car. They didn't have to wear

469
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<v Speaker 3>a veil to go out in public. If they were raped.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a prosecution of their rapists. These rights are

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<v Speaker 3>all gone because Qatar gave the Clintons each a million

472
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<v Speaker 3>five for quote unquote speeches, and then an additional two

473
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<v Speaker 3>hundred and fifty a two point five million dollars to

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<v Speaker 3>the Clinton Foundation, which is I said earlier, is a

475
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<v Speaker 3>vehicle for the facilitation of these kind of bribes. Next thing,

476
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<v Speaker 3>you know, we're going to the National credit card. We're

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<v Speaker 3>borrowing the money to pay for the bombing of Libya

478
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<v Speaker 3>because the rebels can't do it without our air support.

479
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<v Speaker 3>We spend a billion dollars on bombs, of course, paying

480
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<v Speaker 3>interest on that money, and we topple, you know, a

481
00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:22.960
<v Speaker 3>guy who's an ally, and what do we put into place,

482
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<v Speaker 3>shari A law and Islamo fascists at the top, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and replacing Look, I'm not saying that Kadafi was

484
00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>a great guy, but yeah, when you look at the

485
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:36.839
<v Speaker 2>life of the people on the ground, they had access

486
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<v Speaker 2>to healthcare, they had access to education, They were not

487
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<v Speaker 2>suffering much as they are now. You know, I don't

488
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<v Speaker 2>understand this, you know, it's just it's amazing. And meanwhile,

489
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<v Speaker 2>when we do go in and wind up, you know,

490
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<v Speaker 2>supporting the rebels and doing all this other stuff and

491
00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 2>handing out the military industrial complex goodies over there. Well,

492
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>g there's other people benefiting on the back end of

493
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<v Speaker 2>that as well. And I bet those same names.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

496
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<v Speaker 3>And as you may know, I wrote a book on

497
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<v Speaker 3>the greatest profiteer on the Vietnam War. That would be

498
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Lyndon Baines Johnson. He and Ladybird made sixty seventy million

499
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<v Speaker 3>dollars in nineteen sixty dollars on the war through their

500
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:23.519
<v Speaker 3>stock ownership of various defense contractors and their unsavory deals

501
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>with Brown and Route right, which you know, so they

502
00:29:27.920 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 3>got a three point five million dollar contract to dredge

503
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 3>Cameron Bay, which didn't need dredging, right, they're kicking back

504
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.680
<v Speaker 3>to Johnson. They made the Johnson's made a fortune on

505
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<v Speaker 3>the Vietnam War. This I established in my book The

506
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Man Who Killed Kennedy, The Case Against LBJ, which is

507
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<v Speaker 3>a New York Times bestseller, a body of work I'm

508
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 3>very proud of. Again, like the Clinton book, very heavily

509
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:53.000
<v Speaker 3>sourced and footnoted.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I gotta tell you, though, that when it comes

511
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<v Speaker 2>to this Clinton book, this thing is a landmark to me.

512
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<v Speaker 2>I mean as far as I'm concerned. It almost seems

513
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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous that nobody understood that that OBJ was quite the

514
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:11.160
<v Speaker 2>criminal and the profits here all along. But when it

515
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<v Speaker 2>comes to the Clintons, I got to be honest with you,

516
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>their place in history so far has been represented as, hey,

517
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<v Speaker 2>look we had this liberal, you know, kind of feel

518
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.480
<v Speaker 2>good guy very much. You know, when it comes to

519
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:28.359
<v Speaker 2>partisan politics, land, Hey, this was not this was not

520
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:30.319
<v Speaker 2>a good time for us in the US because we

521
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<v Speaker 2>had a guy who wasn't strong on this and that

522
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<v Speaker 2>and the third thing. But really, when you take a

523
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<v Speaker 2>look at their actions and what they actually resulted in,

524
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<v Speaker 2>you have very much the same kind of behavior that

525
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<v Speaker 2>we've had throughout except that I've got to be honest

526
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<v Speaker 2>with you, I don't see this sort of moral depravity

527
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<v Speaker 2>as deep with a lot of other regimes that had

528
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<v Speaker 2>gone through the you know, the White House. Who knows.

529
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<v Speaker 2>You know, the book is as yet unwritten on Obama,

530
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<v Speaker 2>But I am afraid to read that one, to be

531
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 2>honest with you when it comes down to it, because

532
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, a great deal of these things are covered

533
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 2>up even better nowadays. But what kills me about Clinton

534
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 2>is that it seems to be one of the worst

535
00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>kept secrets ever, because these things all circulated all throughout.

536
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you brought up Jennifer Flowers, and everybody remembers her,

537
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, Jennifer with a G and that was the

538
00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>big deal there because that was his mistress and all that.

539
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't even begin to speak to the repeated

540
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and constant practices that this man was involved in when

541
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:39.519
<v Speaker 2>it came to women, you know. And I mean, yeah,

542
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I make the joke every now and then about oh

543
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 2>the guy could feel you know, I feel you're paid.

544
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<v Speaker 2>You know, you remember that old adage coming out of

545
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<v Speaker 2>his mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, this is a guy who lures we need a

547
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.400
<v Speaker 3>broadwick to a hotel room, who throws her on the bed,

548
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.200
<v Speaker 3>bites her, rapes her twice, and then while he's putting

549
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.839
<v Speaker 3>his shorts on and he's about to slip out the door,

550
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.079
<v Speaker 3>puts on his sunglass and says, I get some ice

551
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.119
<v Speaker 3>on That lipifies you. Now, what kind of person is that?

552
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Speaker 3>That's an animal?

553
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>No, absolutely, and over and over again. Like I said,

554
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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty interesting that it's like the Clinton legacy. Well,

555
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, he changed the child support thing and meanwhile

556
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>doesn't take care of his own. That young man's story. No,

557
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<v Speaker 2>I mean time I've seen it laid out, by the

558
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<v Speaker 2>way in your book, that's the first time I've seen

559
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:27.880
<v Speaker 2>it laid out that well.

560
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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, Bill is a deadbeat dad. It's just crazy.

561
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:34.160
<v Speaker 3>In fact, he's a deadbeat granddad because he's got five grandchildren.

562
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.200
<v Speaker 3>He's never held, never nurtured, never loved. And Hillary is

563
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 3>at a minimum their stepmother. So she lectures us it

564
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:44.279
<v Speaker 3>takes a village to raise a kid, and about taking

565
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:46.680
<v Speaker 3>care of our babies and child development. What kind of

566
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.480
<v Speaker 3>bs is this? They should stand up and do the

567
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.400
<v Speaker 3>right thing. If black lives really matter, as Hillary said,

568
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 3>why doesn't Danny Williams life matter?

569
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<v Speaker 2>Mm hm No, absolutely, And I mean putting this in

570
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<v Speaker 2>context when you take a look at the fact that

571
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:02.759
<v Speaker 2>at this point in time, we could say that the

572
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<v Speaker 2>GOP race is as yet you know, still being contested

573
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<v Speaker 2>and all that. I've got my views on it. And

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00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>believe me, if you hang around long enough, I'm going

575
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 2>to get into that with you, because you have a

576
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 2>little role in there which I want to talk about.

577
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.599
<v Speaker 2>But let's put that aside for a moment. Let's focus

578
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:18.200
<v Speaker 2>on Hillary.

579
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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you take a look at her being

581
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<v Speaker 2>the the the seeming you know, air apparent to the

582
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<v Speaker 2>democratic side of the equation here, uh, you know, I mean,

583
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<v Speaker 2>what do you what do you have to say about that?

584
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<v Speaker 3>That?

585
00:33:32.839 --> 00:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>This that this, you know, this seems like a woman

586
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<v Speaker 2>who actually belongs in prison for all the grifting.

587
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 3>You know. Here's what I think, which is the Clinton

588
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 3>is having died many many bullets and have had so

589
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 3>many coast scrapes and survived so many potential scandals that

590
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 3>were outrageous, whether it is the selling of military secrets

591
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.119
<v Speaker 3>to the Chinese through the Laau Corporation, which is an

592
00:33:55.160 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 3>impeachable offense, or whether it is horrific rape, and they

593
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:01.240
<v Speaker 3>ought to just ride off into the sunset with their

594
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:06.039
<v Speaker 3>money and their fame and their library and their co conspirator. Grifting,

595
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.800
<v Speaker 3>greedy little daughter who at age thirty five, is worth

596
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 3>somewhere around eighteen million, who lives in a ten point

597
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:17.039
<v Speaker 3>five million dollar apartment, but says in a Bubbly interview

598
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:20.119
<v Speaker 3>with Vogue, oh, I don't care about money. Well, her

599
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>wedding was three point five million, The flowers alone were

600
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:28.719
<v Speaker 3>a half million, The bar tab three hundred thousand dollars,

601
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.280
<v Speaker 3>more than most people pay on their wedding for sure.

602
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Speaker 3>No wonder that they don't care. She doesn't care about money,

603
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.159
<v Speaker 3>and most of this is rakeoff from the Clinton Foundation.

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00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't matter when you're continuously getting,

605
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:46.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, the infusion of this crooked cash coming into

606
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the family. You can just blow at any which way

607
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 2>you want. Three hundred thousand.

608
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:54.719
<v Speaker 3>So General Electric has a contract on Hillary's desk, multimillion

609
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 3>dollar defense contract they own NBC. NBC hires Chelsea for

610
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:03.480
<v Speaker 3>six hundred thousand dollars. That's more than a half million

611
00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:08.320
<v Speaker 3>dollars for which I think she gives one interview and bingo,

612
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 3>General Electric gets their contract approved.

613
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, big surprise there. And you know what, we didn't

614
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<v Speaker 2>even start to talk about Chelsea here during this discussion.

615
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<v Speaker 2>Another one. This is a weird story because now this

616
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<v Speaker 2>is the first time I saw this. It's probably just

617
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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not aware, but you actually have some photographs

618
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<v Speaker 2>a year and some other things talking about the possibility that, well,

619
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<v Speaker 2>she looks a little bit different in some photographs than

620
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>she does in others. I don't know how deep you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go into that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, no, let's talk about it. Here's the point,

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<v Speaker 3>which is there's some very dark revelations here about hill

624
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.519
<v Speaker 3>of Chelsea Clinton, and people say to me, wait a minute, Stone,

625
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.119
<v Speaker 3>why are you picking on a little girl? Why are

626
00:35:51.119 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 3>you picking on a child? Why you know it's not

627
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 3>her fault what her parents did. Let's be very clear.

628
00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:59.320
<v Speaker 3>She's a thirty five year old adult. She's legally responsible

629
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.960
<v Speaker 3>because she's the papers. As a trustee at the Clinton Foundation,

630
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 3>she and her husband have made millions of dollars in

631
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.400
<v Speaker 3>the family grifting enterprise. She is, according to The New

632
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 3>York Post, short tempered, very dirty mouthed, foul mouthed, abusive, entitled, dictatorial,

633
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 3>and difficult to deal with. There's been a huge turnover

634
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 3>of staff at the Clinton Foundation, where she runs the

635
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 3>day to day operations, because anyone who suggests, but maybe

636
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.400
<v Speaker 3>they should spend more of the money on actual charitable

637
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:34.920
<v Speaker 3>activities has a tendency to get fired. Yeah.

638
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and that's just the beginning of it. Look,

639
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:42.159
<v Speaker 2>if the charge was levied at you in the nineteen nineties,

640
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:44.199
<v Speaker 2>why are you picking on Chelsea Clinton? I would have

641
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:44.840
<v Speaker 2>agreed with them.

642
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 3>Well, I want to hunt here is that the family

643
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:51.320
<v Speaker 3>is dysfunctional, that their whole thing is a sham. They

644
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 3>trot Chelsea out in ninety two at the time Jennifer

645
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Flowers break. So they're parading her on TV. But she's

646
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.280
<v Speaker 3>not Bill's daughter. She is the daughter of Webster Bubble,

647
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.880
<v Speaker 3>who was who was Bill Clinton's apartment, Hillary Clinton's law partner.

648
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 3>She joined the firm. The girl is a dead ringer

649
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:14.199
<v Speaker 3>for her father, despite three plastic surgeries. Now there are

650
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 3>many many people in Arkansas who know that this is

651
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:20.880
<v Speaker 3>a fact. Three weeks ago after this book was published,

652
00:37:21.239 --> 00:37:24.119
<v Speaker 3>Chelsea Clinton appeared at a book signing in Austin, Texas,

653
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>where my co author Robert Morrow asked her in a

654
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 3>polite tone, whether her mother ever told her she was

655
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 3>the daughter of Webster Hubble. She looked up without missing

656
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 3>a beat. You need to see this video because she

657
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 3>looks exactly like Webster Hubble. In fact, I froze a

658
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:42.280
<v Speaker 3>copy of Webster Hubble's picture next to hers online so

659
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:44.679
<v Speaker 3>you can see for yourself. And she said, and I quote,

660
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:49.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm proud to be the daughter of my parents. That's

661
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:50.239
<v Speaker 3>a non answer.

662
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 2>Waiting for the rest of it, mister Stone, I was like, wait,

663
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.039
<v Speaker 2>where's the rest of the answer.

664
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<v Speaker 3>Two days later, Webster Hubble reached in his Arkansas office.

665
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 3>Remember he went to prison as a corrupt member of

666
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:10.360
<v Speaker 3>the Clinton administration. He is reached in his Arkansas office

667
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 3>and asked by reporter World Net Daily, are you Chelsea

668
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Clinton's father? And he says, no comment, and he hangs up. Now,

669
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>I've been in American politics a long time, and Hubble

670
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:26.079
<v Speaker 3>and Chelsea are operators. They both know that the hard

671
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:28.639
<v Speaker 3>denial is the way you'd handle this, unless, of course,

672
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:34.679
<v Speaker 3>you were concerned that somewhere someone had the DNA evidence

673
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.840
<v Speaker 3>to prove this link. The photos which I published in

674
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 3>the book in color, tell the story itself. There are

675
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 3>despite numerous plastic surgeries, and we have before and after pictures,

676
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 3>and I think Chelsea's had as many as four facial

677
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 3>plastic surgeries to try to change her appearance. The rubbery

678
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:59.280
<v Speaker 3>lip lower lip of her father just doesn't disappear well.

679
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Right. I was speaking of other law partners and people

680
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 2>that worked with Hillary or who might refer to quite

681
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>often as Hillary jokingly on this show. You know, remember

682
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 2>the Vince Foster thing.

683
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I think this is an example of my

684
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 3>fairness to the Clintons. In this book. I have looked

685
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:19.639
<v Speaker 3>at this exhaustively, and I must tell you the Clintons

686
00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 3>did not murder Vince Foster. Hillary Clinton drove Vince to suicide.

687
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.440
<v Speaker 3>He died of his own hand, but then Hillary ordered

688
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 3>his body moved out of the Eastern Executive Office Building,

689
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 3>the old Executive Office Building, out to Fort Marcy Park

690
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.679
<v Speaker 3>and dumped poor Patrick Knowlton. This guy's just a regular citizen.

691
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.519
<v Speaker 3>Happens to drive by it the long time and sees

692
00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:47.800
<v Speaker 3>a brown automobile with Arkansas tags from the two Hillary

693
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.360
<v Speaker 3>flunkies who I name in the book as dumping the body.

694
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 3>How do we know the body was dump Well, the

695
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.840
<v Speaker 3>FBI report shows that although Foster's body was found thirty

696
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.440
<v Speaker 3>yards down a muddy trail, it had rained that very morning,

697
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:02.679
<v Speaker 3>there was no mud or dirt on his shoes.

698
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, right, And that's the thing is, you have a

699
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.840
<v Speaker 2>strange situation here. And that's why I brought up Vince Foster,

700
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.280
<v Speaker 2>because everybody has always you know, hearkened to that as

701
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:16.239
<v Speaker 2>the example of you know them, you know, being participating

702
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 2>in somebody's death and this and that.

703
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't think they killed it, but they do orchestrate

704
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.199
<v Speaker 3>the cover up. And here's why Hillary admits in her

705
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.920
<v Speaker 3>own book, hard choices, which ought to be in the

706
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 3>fiction section of the bookstore. But she admits in her

707
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 3>own book that her immediate concern was that Foster's office

708
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 3>would become a crime scene, and she was relieved to

709
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:40.519
<v Speaker 3>hear that he hadn't been killed there because he was

710
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.719
<v Speaker 3>she was concerned if he became a crime scene that investigators,

711
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:47.239
<v Speaker 3>federal investigators, would have access to all their most sensitive

712
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.480
<v Speaker 3>personal files. Vince was the keeper of the family secrets,

713
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:53.840
<v Speaker 3>so you'd be able to probably find a ledger for

714
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:57.280
<v Speaker 3>what he was paid by Dan Lassiter, who was essentially

715
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.679
<v Speaker 3>running the mina operation from the Arkansas and then taking

716
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 3>Bill Clinton Bill Clinton's cut of the massive drug trafficking

717
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 3>that was coming into the state under Vice President George Bush.

718
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 3>George Bush is running with his right hand man, Felix

719
00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Rodriguez and this fellow Don greg who by the way,

720
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 3>gets caught using a government credit card to pay for

721
00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 3>gay prostitutes. They orchestrate the entire illegal arms for drugs

722
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 3>dealing of Iran contract. I think Reagan is actually largely

723
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.159
<v Speaker 3>in the dark. This is a Bush operation. Yet when

724
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.599
<v Speaker 3>Bush is confronted when he's running for president, he says

725
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 3>he was out of the loop out of the loop, Chuck,

726
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.360
<v Speaker 3>he was the loopy.

727
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:47.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm glad you said it, because if you didn't,

728
00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:49.880
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna he was exactly the loop. This is

729
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the guy was involved in every single covert operation, it seems.

730
00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:58.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, people point back to Nixon as being, you know,

731
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 2>the executive action officer of for you know, when he

732
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:04.679
<v Speaker 2>was vice president. Yeah, right, and yes he was. He

733
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:06.719
<v Speaker 2>was involved in a lot of this stuff, but really

734
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:11.000
<v Speaker 2>he pales in comparison to the to the covert activities

735
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:14.840
<v Speaker 2>of HW and yeah, it links directly to the Clintons.

736
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.039
<v Speaker 2>And believe me, that's something I want to get into

737
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:20.280
<v Speaker 2>with you at some point here, because you were somebody

738
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:23.000
<v Speaker 2>who worked for Nixon. And I've got to say that

739
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.039
<v Speaker 2>over time, you know, although at the time it was happening,

740
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, the whole Watergate scandal and everything, he was

741
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>pilloried quite heavily by the press, by people who were

742
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, political pundits of their time and all of that.

743
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>But the truth is, when you look at it back

744
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.480
<v Speaker 2>in retrospect, this guy was no more a criminal than

745
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 2>anybody else. I think, quite honestly, this is what I state,

746
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:51.159
<v Speaker 2>and you might disagree with me, but quite Honestly, Nixon

747
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>was a victim of having challenged the intelligence complex in

748
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.639
<v Speaker 2>a way that they didn't want, and it was too

749
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.239
<v Speaker 2>soon to put a bullet in somebody else's head, so

750
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:02.920
<v Speaker 2>they got rid of our battle their way, right.

751
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 3>This is the theme of my book, Nixon's Secrets, which

752
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.559
<v Speaker 3>is the truth about the takedown of Nixon in Watergate.

753
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 3>I must tell you. Even more phenomenal is a new

754
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 3>book out right now called The Real Watergate Scandal by

755
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Shepherd, who was a White House counsel. And what

756
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:21.760
<v Speaker 3>you found is that Richard Nixon got railroaded. That Judge

757
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 3>so Rica was meeting repeatedly secretly with the government prosecutors

758
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 3>planning how to take them down. And they pre wired

759
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 3>the appeals court in essence going to the chief Judge

760
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:34.920
<v Speaker 3>saying make sure that every appeal on Watergate is heard

761
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:38.880
<v Speaker 3>on bank, meaning five judges instead of three. There were

762
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:41.960
<v Speaker 3>three Democrats and two Republicans on the DC appeals bench,

763
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 3>so the Watergate burglars never got a fair trial. Nixon

764
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 3>was denied due process, as were the burglars. Sirrica would

765
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 3>have been impeached had this been known. That is an

766
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.840
<v Speaker 3>enormous breach to meet expartheid with one side in a

767
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.440
<v Speaker 3>highly charged trial like this. This book absolute he must

768
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.880
<v Speaker 3>be read to get the true story of the takedown

769
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:05.519
<v Speaker 3>of Richard Nixon. And you're absolutely right. He ended the

770
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.199
<v Speaker 3>Vietnam War. That's not what they wanted. And he withdrew

771
00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 3>the troops on a much faster accelerated schedule than the

772
00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.519
<v Speaker 3>Pentagon wanted. When they grudguingly agreed to withdraw at all,

773
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.400
<v Speaker 3>he was going to be spending less. Of the defense

774
00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 3>contractors who were hoping for a big hard line push

775
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 3>in Vietnam too, so they could profiteer. They soured on him.

776
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:32.000
<v Speaker 3>The secret initiative to go around the CIA to forge

777
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 3>a peaceful relationship with the Chinese infuriated them. The Salt

778
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:40.159
<v Speaker 3>agreements with the Russians, in which Nixon agreed to strategic

779
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 3>arms cuts on both sides, some of the most historic

780
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.480
<v Speaker 3>statesmanship in this country's history, moving awards a safer world.

781
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:51.000
<v Speaker 3>They were apoplectic about that Nixon was taken down by

782
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:55.199
<v Speaker 3>the Central Intelligence Agency, but also by his own errors.

783
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:59.719
<v Speaker 3>The Watergate conspiracy was infiltrated, and I go into this

784
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.199
<v Speaker 3>intensively in my book, But there's also more nefarious deeds here.

785
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 3>John W. Dean is the villain of Watergate. He is

786
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 3>the man who plans, pushes cases out, and then covers

787
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:15.360
<v Speaker 3>up the Watergate break in, and then when he realizes

788
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:18.079
<v Speaker 3>he's going to get caught, he shifts blames to others,

789
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 3>including Richard Dixon. And this is very clear that his

790
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:25.440
<v Speaker 3>own books are flawed because they are missing enormous segments

791
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:27.880
<v Speaker 3>of the tapes. He put out a book last year

792
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.280
<v Speaker 3>that was the definitive word on Watergate, he said, but

793
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 3>he omits the tapes of March thirteenth, seventeenth, and twentieth

794
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 3>of he and Richard Nixon, in which he is running

795
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.920
<v Speaker 3>the criminal conspiracy to cover up, and he's coaching Nixon

796
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:45.079
<v Speaker 3>on how to commit perjury. So Dean is busted, and

797
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:48.000
<v Speaker 3>you're absolutely right. The story of Nixon is a fascinating one.

798
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:52.159
<v Speaker 3>He was deeply flawed, but he desegregated the public schools.

799
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:55.280
<v Speaker 3>He gave us federal revenue sharing, which meant our tax

800
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:57.519
<v Speaker 3>money was going to be decided on how to spend

801
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:01.679
<v Speaker 3>it at the local level, not in Washington. He desegregated

802
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:05.360
<v Speaker 3>the construction unions. He saved the state of Israel in

803
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.440
<v Speaker 3>the am Kipper War single handedly over the objections of

804
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Kissinger and the Joint chiefs with a multi million dollar

805
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:17.559
<v Speaker 3>airlift of lethal aid, the Israelis having their backs against

806
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 3>the sea from a charging Egypt. So it is you know,

807
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.559
<v Speaker 3>he achieved many great things, right, not the least of

808
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:26.199
<v Speaker 3>which I mean.

809
00:46:26.239 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can have your viewpoints about the you know,

810
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the trip to China and the opening up of that

811
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:35.559
<v Speaker 2>as well in many directions, but the truth is that

812
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>that was quite a bold move at the time. I

813
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 2>think that historically, when he's put into context, he is

814
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.400
<v Speaker 2>not going to be the villain that he was in

815
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:47.039
<v Speaker 2>the early seventies in the public's mind. That's not going

816
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 2>to happen.

817
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, let's put it this way. All of his successors

818
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.360
<v Speaker 3>help because if you look at his record now and

819
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:53.800
<v Speaker 3>you compare it to the record of any of the

820
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.079
<v Speaker 3>presidents since then, who can stand up for these achievements.

821
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 3>He ended the war, He gave us the environmental first,

822
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:05.400
<v Speaker 3>elementary environmental protection. Now, if Nixon we're alive today, I'm

823
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.960
<v Speaker 3>sure he would be unhappy about our current relationship with

824
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 3>the Chinese. He didn't know at the time that futures

825
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:13.480
<v Speaker 3>leaders would get taken to the cleaners. They didn't take

826
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.880
<v Speaker 3>Nixon to the cleaners. We got something for everything we gave.

827
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Right. It was a completely different thing when if he

828
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.840
<v Speaker 2>saw environmental protection today, he would say, why you're strangling business?

829
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.800
<v Speaker 3>This isn't what I envisioned. So he tried to stop

830
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:30.840
<v Speaker 3>those who were making millions by polluting the environment through

831
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 3>the EPA, which I think any reasonable American is for.

832
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:36.840
<v Speaker 3>To these extremes where you can't build anymore because of

833
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 3>weird environmental restrictions, Nixon would be rolling over in his grave.

834
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.039
<v Speaker 3>He was a Republican, albeit the Chamber of Commerce type,

835
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 3>but he believed in small government absolutely.

836
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you something else. We're gonna come up

837
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:54.360
<v Speaker 2>against the break here, and I do want to explore

838
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 2>a couple of things if you've got time to hang

839
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.679
<v Speaker 2>around with us for the next hour, because you know

840
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:02.039
<v Speaker 2>they're there is a whole lot more to your history.

841
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:05.480
<v Speaker 2>And I got more questions about this book, you know,

842
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:09.599
<v Speaker 2>the Clinton's. It's amazing to me. And I'm gonna tell

843
00:48:09.599 --> 00:48:13.639
<v Speaker 2>you guys something just listening to us right now now.

844
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I have had disagreements with various people about various topics,

845
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.159
<v Speaker 2>and you guys know this. But the fact is, if

846
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.320
<v Speaker 2>you take a look at even just the pictures in

847
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the center of this thing. And I did more than that.

848
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:26.320
<v Speaker 2>I read through a lot of it, and I started

849
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.519
<v Speaker 2>showing people some of these photographs. But just the photographs

850
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:33.159
<v Speaker 2>in the center of this book are actually worth the price.

851
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, this, this gentleman, mister Williams we're talking about here,

852
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>who is to my satisfaction based on what I can

853
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:43.760
<v Speaker 2>see and what I've heard before. By the way, because

854
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:45.719
<v Speaker 2>this is a story that I don't think has been

855
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:49.480
<v Speaker 2>really out there in the media stream very well. You know,

856
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you take a look at just the photograph of Williams

857
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 2>next to a photograph.

858
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I would urge you, I would I would urge you

859
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:58.760
<v Speaker 3>to go to my Twitter feed right now, which is

860
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Roger J. Stone Junior, Rogers Jstone Jr. And you'll see

861
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 3>a video I posted of Danny Williams very recently and

862
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 3>tell me who he looks like. He's very real, as

863
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 3>he says in the video, he's real, He's a person,

864
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:14.360
<v Speaker 3>and it's time that he'd be acknowledged. Hillary Clinton banished him.

865
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 3>She's the one who sent him away. One of the

866
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:19.639
<v Speaker 3>things I was able to prove is that Bill would

867
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:24.119
<v Speaker 3>have Christmas presents delivered to Danny's home every Christmas without

868
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Hillary knowing about it. It was Hillary therefore who banished Danny.

869
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:33.880
<v Speaker 2>But even so, you know as a father, and again

870
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:36.400
<v Speaker 2>the guy who I swear to you I do recall

871
00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:38.880
<v Speaker 2>just personally. I don't have video of this at this

872
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 2>time or anything, but I guarantee you there was a

873
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:44.679
<v Speaker 2>huge issue when it came to the Clinton rhetoric at

874
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the time in the nineties about child.

875
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.679
<v Speaker 3>That'll be right. So the guy's at deadbeat dad himself. He's,

876
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 3>by the way, he's got a niece right now who's

877
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.960
<v Speaker 3>on welfare, in on food stamps, who he's not supporting,

878
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:02.280
<v Speaker 3>one of Rogers daughters. But look at this goes much deeper.

879
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.119
<v Speaker 3>If you read Bill Clinton's official biography, you know that

880
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:11.119
<v Speaker 3>he says that Billy Blythe is his father. William Jefferson

881
00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Clinton had abandoned his mother, she had taken up and

882
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:17.119
<v Speaker 3>married Blythe Blythe is his father. The problem is that

883
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 3>it's not true. Blythe was in the service. If you

884
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 3>count the months and you figure it out, the old

885
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 3>timers in Hope, Arkansas would confirm that Virginia, his mother,

886
00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:32.079
<v Speaker 3>was intimate with doctor George Wright, and that right is

887
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:37.519
<v Speaker 3>Bill Clinton's father, Wright has three other sons. That means

888
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 3>by matching the DNA of one of the Wright brothers

889
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:45.760
<v Speaker 3>and Danny Williams, which is exactly the exact genetic match

890
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 3>that was done to prove that Thomas Jefferson had fathered

891
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 3>a child with the black slave Sally Hemmings, would prove

892
00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 3>definitively that Bill is Danny Williams father.

893
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, So when you take a look at the true lineage,

894
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:06.639
<v Speaker 2>the true genetic lineage here.

895
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:09.519
<v Speaker 3>He no, you could prove it without Bill's DNA. I

896
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.159
<v Speaker 3>think it's very clear Bill is not going to donate

897
00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 3>DNA for a public test of this question. Danny will

898
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 3>have the option of challenging Bill's will when Bill passes away.

899
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:22.119
<v Speaker 3>If he's not provided for at that time, he might

900
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 3>get a judge to order a DNA test. But I say,

901
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:27.559
<v Speaker 3>why wait, I'd like to know before the twenty six

902
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.440
<v Speaker 3>sixteen election whether Hillary isn't an abuser of this child,

903
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:34.960
<v Speaker 3>because this is abuse. He has admitted he doesn't want money.

904
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.000
<v Speaker 3>He wants to shake his father's hand, as he says

905
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.440
<v Speaker 3>in my book, he wants to meet his biological father.

906
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.719
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, He doesn't do drugs.

907
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.519
<v Speaker 3>He's an upright young man, and he lives in a

908
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.599
<v Speaker 3>very troubled environment. He struggles to make ends meet. This

909
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 3>last Thanksgiving was tough on him. He is five months

910
00:51:53.039 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 3>to feed, in a small business to run while he's

911
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.480
<v Speaker 3>still going to school, and his father is fabulously wealthy.

912
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 3>It's time for Hillary to put Look, you apologize for

913
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.559
<v Speaker 3>banishing this point, and for Bill to do the right

914
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 3>thing and supportive.

915
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:11.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, absolutely, and it's long overdue. I just I'm

916
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:13.840
<v Speaker 2>just stunned at the hypocrisy, like I said, because you're

917
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:16.760
<v Speaker 2>delivering rhetoric to the rest of us. This always makes

918
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.800
<v Speaker 2>me sick, and it's beyond politics. I'll tell you that

919
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.960
<v Speaker 2>that I get ill listening to people preach from the pulpit.

920
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 2>You know are who are church people. I get ill

921
00:52:27.960 --> 00:52:30.840
<v Speaker 2>when I hear you know, social commentators telling us all

922
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 2>about how we're supposed to behave when they themselves have

923
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 2>no clue about how to behave in a moral fashion. No,

924
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:41.159
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter what I think.

925
00:52:41.199 --> 00:52:45.039
<v Speaker 3>This is a phenomena that I call elite deviance, which

926
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.239
<v Speaker 3>is there are a class of people in this country

927
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.480
<v Speaker 3>who are so wealthy, so powerful, so connected that the

928
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.719
<v Speaker 3>rules of society don't count for them. They can have

929
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:59.920
<v Speaker 3>their own email server, they can mishandle classified documents. They

930
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:03.280
<v Speaker 3>can do drugs, they can traffic drugs. They can have

931
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:07.199
<v Speaker 3>people beaten, they can murder people, they can hide evidence,

932
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:10.800
<v Speaker 3>they can tamper with witnesses, they can use strong arm tactics,

933
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:15.880
<v Speaker 3>they cheat, they make millions, and they are never held accountable.

934
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.840
<v Speaker 3>The laws literally don't apply for them. This qualifies as

935
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.599
<v Speaker 3>the Clintons, the Bushes, and many and many the Rockefellers.

936
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:27.599
<v Speaker 3>There's a certain elite out there who aren't subject to

937
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:29.480
<v Speaker 3>the same rules as the rest of us.

938
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely correct, And it's just it's bottomless the pit

939
00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:40.639
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about here. And those that think that somehow

940
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 2>one side of the political spectrum doesn't get as deeply

941
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.000
<v Speaker 2>dipped in the blood and mud of all of this,

942
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:51.760
<v Speaker 2>you got another thing coming. Because the truth is the

943
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.360
<v Speaker 2>upper rachealon in this country. This is the way it goes.

944
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:59.639
<v Speaker 2>The laws they apply to you and me and probably

945
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:01.320
<v Speaker 2>you Master Stone, I don't know.

946
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:04.400
<v Speaker 3>But yet I've been a very close observer of this.

947
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 3>I spent forty years in the corrected rectum of the

948
00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:10.360
<v Speaker 3>two party system. I've seen laws being made. I've seen

949
00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:11.920
<v Speaker 3>public policy being purchased.

950
00:54:12.800 --> 00:54:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

951
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, I worked in the US Senate as a

952
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.239
<v Speaker 3>top aide to Senator Bob Dole. I worked in the

953
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:21.199
<v Speaker 3>House as a top aid to Congressman Bob Steele I,

954
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.480
<v Speaker 3>who is on the Budget Committee. I've seen the process

955
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 3>up close. I've seen the sausage being made. It's not pretty.

956
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.679
<v Speaker 3>Big money, special interest money, corporate money, and the right

957
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:36.039
<v Speaker 3>lobbyists can buy anything in Washington. This is why I

958
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.559
<v Speaker 3>personally am attracted to the candidacy of Donald Trump because

959
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:43.360
<v Speaker 3>we are definitely disagree with them. I disagree with him

960
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.599
<v Speaker 3>on so many issues, like the drug war, for example,

961
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:46.559
<v Speaker 3>and we.

962
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:48.559
<v Speaker 2>Are definitely going to get into this in the second

963
00:54:48.599 --> 00:54:50.639
<v Speaker 2>hour of mister Stone. That's the music coming up, and

964
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to tell you something else. Guys, if you

965
00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>want to join in on this conversation, I do have

966
00:54:55.079 --> 00:54:57.480
<v Speaker 2>to switch Forard Open. It's two one eight three three

967
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<v Speaker 2>nine eight five two five once again two one eight

968
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:04.679
<v Speaker 2>three three nine eight five two five. Roger Stone is

969
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.119
<v Speaker 2>my guest on the Olli Effect tonight, and it's gonna

970
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:15.760
<v Speaker 2>get even more interesting. I promise you stay tuned. Welcome

971
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:19.719
<v Speaker 2>to the World's Meeting place, American man.

972
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.519
<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, I like radio.

973
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:28.800
<v Speaker 3>An American institution, American Freedom Radio.

974
00:55:29.639 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 2>No rules, no rules, no taboo topics, taboo topics.

975
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:36.679
<v Speaker 3>No fear of doom, no fear of doom.

976
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Are our American Freedom Radio, American Freedom Radio, ready for.

977
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:11.840
<v Speaker 1>And now and now, most and most underrated voice in

978
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:18.519
<v Speaker 1>all media, the alternatives alternative Chuck O'Kelly.

979
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 2>So the second hour does begin here on American Freedom Radio.

980
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<v Speaker 2>This is as the bumper tells you, the o'celly effect,

981
00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:29.559
<v Speaker 2>and I'm your host, Chuck o'celly Roger Stone. So far

982
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:33.719
<v Speaker 2>tonight we have discussed everything from the Clintons who were

983
00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 2>a part of the Bush crime syndicate, which I'm sure

984
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.639
<v Speaker 2>mister Stone is not going to disagree with me there

985
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:40.920
<v Speaker 2>as you heard in the first hour, but if you

986
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<v Speaker 2>missed it, you definitely have to go back and get

987
00:56:43.440 --> 00:56:48.639
<v Speaker 2>the archive, because there has been a plethora of information

988
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:51.039
<v Speaker 2>laid out for you from a man who has been

989
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:55.199
<v Speaker 2>a political insider for decades, for somebody whose lineage goes

990
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:59.519
<v Speaker 2>very easily from you know, Nixon, the easy the easy

991
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.480
<v Speaker 2>points of you here Nixon to Trump, as far as

992
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:06.559
<v Speaker 2>being somebody who's been an advisor and many many stops

993
00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:09.760
<v Speaker 2>in between. Of course, the book we're focusing on for

994
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the most part tonight is The Clintons War on Women.

995
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:15.199
<v Speaker 2>And I say again that if you want to join

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00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:18.280
<v Speaker 2>in the discussion, guys, the uh, the the lines will

997
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<v Speaker 2>be open at two one eight three, three nine eight

998
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<v Speaker 2>five two five once again two one eight, three, three

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<v Speaker 2>nine eight five two five. And hey, you know we

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<v Speaker 2>we do this live, so you guys can interact with

1001
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:36.599
<v Speaker 2>the guests and myself any which way. Just I ask

1002
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 2>that you'd be respectful. Is all just to the guests,

1003
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:41.679
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily to me. You can attack me if you like,

1004
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 2>but not the guests. Okay, So moving forward. You know,

1005
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 2>everybody when they talk about the Clintons and they talk

1006
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 2>about the scandals, and they talk about the reality of

1007
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:58.599
<v Speaker 2>their hypocritical behavior, their immorality, I mean, everybody always jumps

1008
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:03.599
<v Speaker 2>to the big store, right. The Monica Lewinsky story all

1009
00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 2>about you know what happened with this young lady who

1010
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.400
<v Speaker 2>I think her entire life was ruined simply because she

1011
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 2>made some poor decisions and got herself excuse the pun here,

1012
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe sucked into a bad situation, you know, regarding a

1013
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:22.920
<v Speaker 2>man of power who happened to be in front of

1014
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 2>her at the time, et cetera.

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00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Et cetera.

1016
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:29.639
<v Speaker 2>But this is also part of the story because what.

1017
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Did you say about Bill Clinton that he was using

1018
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:34.880
<v Speaker 3>a twenty two year old intern as his personal humador.

1019
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know the power differential here, the President

1020
00:58:40.679 --> 00:58:42.880
<v Speaker 3>the United States and a twenty two year old, not

1021
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 3>very good looking girl. But the moral of the story

1022
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:48.880
<v Speaker 3>is it was Hillary who called her a little nutty

1023
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:51.840
<v Speaker 3>and a little sluttie. Remember there was an enormous Clinton

1024
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:55.639
<v Speaker 3>spin operation putting the blame on Lewinsky. Was her fault.

1025
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:59.920
<v Speaker 3>She seduced the doddering old president. Please give me a break.

1026
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:05.559
<v Speaker 3>And you're right, they've destroyed her life because they try

1027
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:07.880
<v Speaker 3>to convince people that she was crazy, that she they

1028
00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 3>said she was a stalker. That's right. She showed up

1029
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:12.960
<v Speaker 3>every time Clinton sent for her.

1030
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:17.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is that is that how you qualify a stalker?

1031
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, really, you know, and we got treated to

1032
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:22.719
<v Speaker 2>back then, even we got treated to what the Linda

1033
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:27.119
<v Speaker 2>trip tapes and of course the infamous stained dress and

1034
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 2>all of this, and meanwhile, you know, look, bottom line,

1035
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna be honest here, bottom line, if that's

1036
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:38.880
<v Speaker 2>what goes on between consenting adults. It's none of my business.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but this is I think this is something for

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00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:42.880
<v Speaker 3>This is more important, and I'll tell you why, Chuck.

1039
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:47.639
<v Speaker 3>This is the first time that that internet media breaking

1040
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:50.639
<v Speaker 3>force is a scandal. If it weren't for the Drudge Report,

1041
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 3>we would know nothing about Linda Tripp or Monica Lewinsky

1042
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 3>because the networks who had all this information would never

1043
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:01.400
<v Speaker 3>have covered it. So it's really the first time in

1044
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:05.159
<v Speaker 3>modern history where the story was so big and Matt

1045
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Drudge was so far out that that every major media

1046
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 3>had to follow him and cover this. Well. Then, of

1047
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.280
<v Speaker 3>course the proof of that is it led to a

1048
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:20.159
<v Speaker 3>formal impeachment inquiry. That's how serious the problem was, right,

1049
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:20.880
<v Speaker 3>And let's.

1050
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Remember that the impeachment inquiry was not about the you know,

1051
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:30.480
<v Speaker 2>a sexual proclivities or activities of two individuals. It was

1052
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:36.199
<v Speaker 2>actually about, you know, a provable problem there when giving testimony, right,

1053
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:38.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean, everybody forgets that part.

1054
01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, No, it's all about the perjury. The point is

1055
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 3>he lied under oath, he had his law license, he

1056
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.079
<v Speaker 3>was this bar. He had to pay one hundred and

1057
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:51.079
<v Speaker 3>twenty five thousand dollars fine to the bar. These are

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01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.559
<v Speaker 3>parts that are missing in his biography.

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01:00:56.599 --> 01:01:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's that's another fun thing. I really don't

1060
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:02.880
<v Speaker 2>see much about that there. There's sort of a Maya

1061
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 2>coupe in there, really quickly in one of the versions

1062
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 2>that I read. But I mean it is so brief

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01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 2>as to be laughable.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is this is a guy who says that

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01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:16.639
<v Speaker 3>he smoked marijuana, but he didn't Inhale. This is a

1066
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 3>guy who, actually, quoted on the record, is saying, I

1067
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.920
<v Speaker 3>don't believe i'd know what cocaine looks like. Whose own brother,

1068
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Roger Clinton, said I need some from my brother. He's

1069
01:01:26.360 --> 01:01:28.320
<v Speaker 3>got a nose like a vacuum cleaner.

1070
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, right, and I mean again and again what we find.

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01:01:33.199 --> 01:01:35.440
<v Speaker 2>And I've always laughed at that whole You know, I

1072
01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 2>didn't Inhale saying Roger, I mean, bluntly, look, Manda Man,

1073
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:43.760
<v Speaker 2>who is going to smoke marijuana and not Inhale?

1074
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:48.440
<v Speaker 3>Really it's so laughable. Yeah, No, it speaks to the

1075
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:50.719
<v Speaker 3>phoniness of Bill Clinton. It's as much as just as

1076
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.239
<v Speaker 3>phony as is saying that he doesn't know what cocaine

1077
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:58.000
<v Speaker 3>looks like. If you go back to the Clinton Chronicles,

1078
01:01:58.639 --> 01:02:02.039
<v Speaker 3>which is a fairly arcane production, you know, it's pre

1079
01:02:02.239 --> 01:02:06.400
<v Speaker 3>Internet that's put out on vhs. In essence, you will see,

1080
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, numerous party girls in that documentary who snorted

1081
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.719
<v Speaker 3>lines with Bill. His own driver. L. D. Brown says

1082
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:19.679
<v Speaker 3>he would drive Clinton to Dan Lassiter, the drug dealer's office,

1083
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:23.239
<v Speaker 3>and Clinton would come out after snorting coke out of

1084
01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:26.880
<v Speaker 3>a giant bowl. It would be glazed. There's actually a

1085
01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:31.559
<v Speaker 3>picture of Bill Clinton high on cocaine, glaze eyed in L. D.

1086
01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:35.639
<v Speaker 3>Brown's book, which I believe we reproduced in the book. Yeah,

1087
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:36.519
<v Speaker 3>actually he did.

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01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:41.119
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's a fascinating photo because and again I

1089
01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:45.320
<v Speaker 2>say this really honestly, even if you you just take

1090
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:47.239
<v Speaker 2>a look at these pictures, it's worth the price of

1091
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:51.679
<v Speaker 2>the book, guys. It absolutely is. The picture of mister Williams,

1092
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 2>some of the photographs that you have in there of Clinton,

1093
01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 2>the comparison with Chelsea, you know, it's just it's astounding,

1094
01:03:01.679 --> 01:03:05.800
<v Speaker 2>just the photographic elements in your book research you did.

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01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:08.159
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate that very much. For those who want to

1096
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:10.159
<v Speaker 3>get the book, By the way, you can go to

1097
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Rogerstone dot com. You can go to Clinton's War No Apostrophe,

1098
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Clinton's War dot com, or you can go to Amazon,

1099
01:03:18.159 --> 01:03:20.480
<v Speaker 3>you can go to Barnes and Noble online or walk

1100
01:03:20.559 --> 01:03:24.119
<v Speaker 3>into a Barnes and Noble store. I'm very proud of

1101
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:26.800
<v Speaker 3>this book, and I you know, it's not about me.

1102
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:30.000
<v Speaker 3>The book stands on its own and it makes its

1103
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.960
<v Speaker 3>own case. Every woman needs to read this book before

1104
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 3>the twenty sixteen election, and they need to hand it

1105
01:03:35.440 --> 01:03:37.199
<v Speaker 3>to another woman and get her to read it.

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01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, because look, at the end of the day,

1107
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 2>you know, the the Clinton presidency is all over, and yeah,

1108
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:46.599
<v Speaker 2>they have a slush fund. Many people after leaving a

1109
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.199
<v Speaker 2>high office end up with, you know, some sort of

1110
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:53.800
<v Speaker 2>foundation slush fund. They attract money for their presidential libraries.

1111
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:55.440
<v Speaker 2>They do all kinds of things, but.

1112
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:57.599
<v Speaker 3>Not at this scale, not at this scale. You know.

1113
01:03:57.679 --> 01:03:59.920
<v Speaker 3>The truth is, when Richard Nixon left the White House,

1114
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:03.800
<v Speaker 3>he sat on no corporate boards, he did no paid speeches,

1115
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:07.960
<v Speaker 3>he took no honorarium, he did no legal work, and

1116
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:13.320
<v Speaker 3>he declined numerous economic opportunities living off his federal pension,

1117
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:17.239
<v Speaker 3>having been a senator, a congressman, a vice president, and president,

1118
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 3>and what he could earn by writing books. When Jimmy

1119
01:04:21.239 --> 01:04:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Carter left the White House, he founded a foundation to

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01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 3>do charitable works specifically building houses for poor people. And

1121
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:33.440
<v Speaker 3>he received no honorariums, no paid speeches, served on no

1122
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:36.719
<v Speaker 3>corporate boards. Bill Clinton has made one hundred million dollars

1123
01:04:36.760 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 3>since leaving the White House, and that's conservatively. He made

1124
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:42.920
<v Speaker 3>thirty five last year alone. As I think I said earlier,

1125
01:04:43.360 --> 01:04:47.079
<v Speaker 3>Hillary's worth about eighty five to one hundred. Chelsea, aged

1126
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.159
<v Speaker 3>thirty five, She's worth an estimated eighteen and a half

1127
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:54.400
<v Speaker 3>million dollars. So these people have plundered at the public troth.

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01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Bill was the only president who has been willing to

1129
01:04:57.599 --> 01:05:02.559
<v Speaker 3>work essentially as a lobbyist, mostly for foreign interests, cutting

1130
01:05:02.639 --> 01:05:07.599
<v Speaker 3>shady deals with the other capitalists in the world, the

1131
01:05:07.719 --> 01:05:12.039
<v Speaker 3>other regimes. But no other president has worked as a

1132
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.119
<v Speaker 3>lobby and that when that lobbying practice started to smell

1133
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 3>so bad. A company called Tineo that was set up

1134
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:23.079
<v Speaker 3>by Clinton's then right hand man now estranged and maybe

1135
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:26.440
<v Speaker 3>problematic because he is a witness to many of Bill's

1136
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:31.639
<v Speaker 3>sexploits when he was at Epstein's place, and he's privy

1137
01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:34.960
<v Speaker 3>to many other scandals. Because you know, Bill and Hillary,

1138
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:38.519
<v Speaker 3>even for example, when they're in the same city, they

1139
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:40.519
<v Speaker 3>not only don't stay in the same room, they don't

1140
01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:41.800
<v Speaker 3>stay in the same hotel.

1141
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely Listen, Roger, how about we take a call at

1142
01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:48.599
<v Speaker 2>this point because I do want to get into some

1143
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of the discussions with you know about about Carter, because

1144
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:54.039
<v Speaker 2>he's the only guy that I take out of context

1145
01:05:54.719 --> 01:05:57.760
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to this long line of criminals. I'm

1146
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:00.639
<v Speaker 2>not saying that he's necessarily all cleaning either, but at

1147
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:02.639
<v Speaker 2>least when he came out, he actually did, you know,

1148
01:06:02.840 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 2>something in a charitable way that accomplished something I do.

1149
01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:11.199
<v Speaker 2>You can actually see the results of his work post presidency.

1150
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, I would say this that two things are interesting

1151
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:17.320
<v Speaker 3>about Carter. In significant I think he was not a

1152
01:06:17.360 --> 01:06:21.639
<v Speaker 3>great president. He was very smugged and sanctimonious. He didn't

1153
01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 3>he really thought he was the smartest man in the world.

1154
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 3>He did, however, do one thing right, and that is

1155
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:32.760
<v Speaker 3>when he learned in the church hearings and the other

1156
01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:37.679
<v Speaker 3>breaking stories of his day, what the government had really

1157
01:06:37.880 --> 01:06:42.760
<v Speaker 3>done in Dallas, at the Bay of Pigs in the

1158
01:06:42.840 --> 01:06:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Vietnam War. When he learned all of that, he essentially

1159
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:52.320
<v Speaker 3>ousted the regime at the CIA that was responsible for it,

1160
01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:55.519
<v Speaker 3>and he put in his own director, Stansfield Turner, who

1161
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:59.119
<v Speaker 3>was not a favorite of the old timers. He fired

1162
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.079
<v Speaker 3>all the Koch were guys responsible for what had gone down,

1163
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:07.559
<v Speaker 3>and this came back to haunt him. They all camped

1164
01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:11.079
<v Speaker 3>out at the George Bush for President campaign in nineteen eighty,

1165
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.760
<v Speaker 3>which was very much the candidate of the spooks in

1166
01:07:14.840 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 3>the states where I was organizing for Ronald Reagan New York,

1167
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:22.360
<v Speaker 3>New Jersey, Connecticut, and through the Northeast. The Bush campaign

1168
01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:26.840
<v Speaker 3>locally was all retired quote unquote CIA guys and a

1169
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.920
<v Speaker 3>few wasps from the country club or you know, people

1170
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:35.639
<v Speaker 3>who were in the finest families in terms of the

1171
01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:38.639
<v Speaker 3>waspy set. That that's absolutely true.

1172
01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:41.960
<v Speaker 2>I was a kid in the in during that time,

1173
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and I got to tell you that the adults around

1174
01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:47.719
<v Speaker 2>me talked about how the Bush for Presidency campaign that

1175
01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 2>was unfolding there was really like the white people's campaign,

1176
01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:55.280
<v Speaker 2>so you know, and that's what they were alluding to,

1177
01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:57.760
<v Speaker 2>is that it was all about and you know, look,

1178
01:07:57.840 --> 01:08:00.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm white myself, and you know whatever.

1179
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:03.119
<v Speaker 3>But the thing is that it was just so clearly

1180
01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 3>people underestimate George Bush in this sense, even though he

1181
01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:10.760
<v Speaker 3>seems like an affable kind of dufis and he's got

1182
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:16.000
<v Speaker 3>terrible syntax, he's mat Laedroit and somewhat wouldn't don't recognize

1183
01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:20.399
<v Speaker 3>the fact that this is a very duplicitous, dangerous, and

1184
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.640
<v Speaker 3>extremely ambitious man who will do whatever it takes to

1185
01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:29.760
<v Speaker 3>get power. And I think people think they see this

1186
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.279
<v Speaker 3>goofy demeanor of his and they think it's kind of

1187
01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:37.119
<v Speaker 3>endearing and harmless. There is nothing harmless about the House

1188
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:40.159
<v Speaker 3>of Bush and their use of Saudi money and Saudi

1189
01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:45.159
<v Speaker 3>influence and their self dealing and their corruption of US

1190
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:48.800
<v Speaker 3>government because of it. Look, even today we can't get

1191
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:51.359
<v Speaker 3>twenty eight pages from the nine to eleven Commission report.

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01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:53.079
<v Speaker 2>That's absolutely correct.

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01:08:54.079 --> 01:08:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Let's try and go to some of the You're a

1194
01:08:57.319 --> 01:09:00.680
<v Speaker 3>right left Republican, Democrat, libertarian, have a right to know

1195
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:01.479
<v Speaker 3>what's in there.

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01:09:02.279 --> 01:09:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely and I absolutely agree with you there. Let's try

1197
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:07.920
<v Speaker 2>and go to some of the callers though, and see

1198
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:09.680
<v Speaker 2>what they have to say, because I actually get hit

1199
01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:11.640
<v Speaker 2>on the lines here and I want to want to

1200
01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:13.079
<v Speaker 2>let them in on the conversations.

1201
01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:14.159
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely perfect.

1202
01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:17.439
<v Speaker 2>First off, we have six oh four, You're on the

1203
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:18.640
<v Speaker 2>air with Roger Stone.

1204
01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:22.119
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Chuck, Charles Cliff here, how you doing all right?

1205
01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Charles?

1206
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:23.239
<v Speaker 4>How are you doing?

1207
01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:26.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing well, Hello, Roger Charles.

1208
01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:30.560
<v Speaker 4>Hello, Yes, I got a couple of questions if you

1209
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:37.439
<v Speaker 4>don't mind about your book The Man Who Killed Kennedy. Yes, yes, okay,

1210
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:40.199
<v Speaker 4>So I hope I'm not getting a two off topic.

1211
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:43.199
<v Speaker 4>So I just kind of joined in late. Okay. So

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01:09:43.760 --> 01:09:48.479
<v Speaker 4>your basic premise is a book, is that LBJ is

1213
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:51.720
<v Speaker 4>the one that with the mastermind behind the whole thing?

1214
01:09:52.079 --> 01:09:54.680
<v Speaker 4>Is that kind of the I've only I've read excerpt

1215
01:09:54.760 --> 01:09:55.159
<v Speaker 4>to your book.

1216
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:58.439
<v Speaker 3>I have haven't Let me let me sum up my theory.

1217
01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I think I think Lyndon Johnson was a part of

1218
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:04.960
<v Speaker 3>a plot that involved the Central Intelligence Agency, organized crime

1219
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:09.119
<v Speaker 3>in some of the elements in Big Texas Oil who

1220
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:13.680
<v Speaker 3>had a mutual and immediate interest in a coupdeta. I

1221
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:17.600
<v Speaker 3>think Johnson was central to the plot because he controlled

1222
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 3>the Dallas Police Department in the Dallas District Attorney recognizing

1223
01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:25.640
<v Speaker 3>that in nineteen sixty three, murderer even of the president

1224
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:29.560
<v Speaker 3>is a state not federal crime. Therefore, the investigation would

1225
01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:33.560
<v Speaker 3>be and could be controlled by Lyndon Johnson. Why I

1226
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:34.840
<v Speaker 3>think he is indispensable.

1227
01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 2>It is.

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01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Undisputable that Johnson taught President Kennedy into going to Dallas.

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01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:48.800
<v Speaker 3>It is indisputable that, according to the memoir of Jerry Bruno,

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01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:51.279
<v Speaker 3>who is the chief advanced man for Kennedy, it was

1231
01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Connelly who absolutely demanded the illegal turn. Under the secret

1232
01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:59.600
<v Speaker 3>Service manual, it took you through the slow incline of

1233
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Dally Plaza. There was a much faster way to get

1234
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 3>where they were going to the merchandise smart it was

1235
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Connelly who insisted on that route. So yeah, I'm very

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01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:13.439
<v Speaker 3>proud of that book. It's a New York Times bestseller,

1237
01:11:13.560 --> 01:11:15.760
<v Speaker 3>and I invite you to give it a read. It's

1238
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:17.960
<v Speaker 3>very fast moving. I think you'll find it fascinating.

1239
01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:21.560
<v Speaker 4>Now, do you believe that he was actually part of

1240
01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:24.760
<v Speaker 4>the advanced planning of it or was he more of

1241
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:26.159
<v Speaker 4>a background character.

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<v Speaker 3>I think let's look at the people, say Lyndon Johnson

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01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:35.159
<v Speaker 3>did do it. We have a government document, a memo

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<v Speaker 3>that was declassified from ja Or Hoover to Lyndon Johnson's

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01:11:38.520 --> 01:11:42.079
<v Speaker 3>informing him that the KGB has conducted their own independent

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01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:45.119
<v Speaker 3>investigation in the Kennedy murder and they have concluded that

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<v Speaker 3>Johnson is the lynch pin and that the intelligence services

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01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:53.079
<v Speaker 3>and organist Guy's crime elements are involved. Bingo Jackie Kennedy

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01:11:53.159 --> 01:11:56.279
<v Speaker 3>goes to French intelligence, where she has friends. She is

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01:11:56.399 --> 01:12:01.359
<v Speaker 3>of course a bouvoir, and the they conduct their own

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01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:06.199
<v Speaker 3>independent investigation. They conclude that Lyndon Johnson is the lynch pin.

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01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:10.640
<v Speaker 3>Senator Barry Goldwater believed it, which is documented in my book.

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01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Robert Kennedy believed it. Jacqueline Kennedy believed it. This is

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<v Speaker 3>all a findable in the book. So many many people did.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I have never said Johnson acted alone, and many purists

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01:12:25.520 --> 01:12:28.239
<v Speaker 3>who are interested in this topic, and those who disagree

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01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.479
<v Speaker 3>with me, like Chuck who have great respect for say, well,

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01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:33.399
<v Speaker 3>you've got to focus on some of the other you know,

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01:12:33.479 --> 01:12:35.319
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was just the mob, maybe it was just

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<v Speaker 3>the Central Intelligence agency. So I don't disagree with them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if you step back and look at the

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01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:47.479
<v Speaker 3>larger picture, as the Latins say, Pode costs seclist spect

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01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:50.479
<v Speaker 3>which means he who committed the crime is the one

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<v Speaker 3>who derives the greatest benefit.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I see what we're saying there, And certainly with

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<v Speaker 4>respect to this the cover up after the fact, I

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<v Speaker 4>have no disagreement there. He was clearly part of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. In fact, Jaeger Hoover is the cleanup man for

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01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:13.000
<v Speaker 3>the cover up. Hoover is the next door neighbor of Johnson.

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01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:16.279
<v Speaker 3>The Johnson Girls calling Buncle Edgar. He has tripled the

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01:13:16.439 --> 01:13:19.960
<v Speaker 3>FBI budget in the fifties when he's the Senate majority

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01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 3>leader in controlling the appropriations process. Uh and he is

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01:13:25.039 --> 01:13:29.760
<v Speaker 3>his friends in Texas are great financial benefactors for Jay

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01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Edgar's yearly trip to the track on the West Coast,

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01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:35.840
<v Speaker 3>where essentially every mobster in the world is picking up

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<v Speaker 3>the tab M.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I understand that. My biggest issue is though

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01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:44.640
<v Speaker 4>that there's a lot of people saying the lynch pin

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01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:47.319
<v Speaker 4>he did this, he did that. But really, when you

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01:13:47.439 --> 01:13:49.920
<v Speaker 4>come it comes right down to it as him being

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01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:54.359
<v Speaker 4>an actual participant in the planning. I find the evidence

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<v Speaker 4>there to be very very thin.

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<v Speaker 3>I really well, no, look, I happen to buy Barb Barb.

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01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:03.359
<v Speaker 3>I buy Barb McClellan's theory, which is Johnson steals the

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01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:06.399
<v Speaker 3>Secret Service manual and he gives it to his major

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<v Speaker 3>DOMO and the most powerful man in Texas, Ed Clark,

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01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:12.319
<v Speaker 3>his personal attorney, and he says, I don't need to

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01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.399
<v Speaker 3>know any more. You take care of business. Ed Clark

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01:14:15.479 --> 01:14:19.000
<v Speaker 3>is the one who is interfacing with all the other plotters.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think Johnson is the running of day to

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<v Speaker 3>day operation. However, there is no question that fingerprint evidence

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01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:29.640
<v Speaker 3>eyewitness evidence ties the crime directly to Johnson. In that

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<v Speaker 3>the fingerprint found in the sixth floor sniper's next on

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01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:37.720
<v Speaker 3>the cardboard boxes, which has now been confirmed at least

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01:14:37.760 --> 01:14:41.199
<v Speaker 3>five times over by independent experts in addition to the

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<v Speaker 3>original one Nathan Darby, is the print of man named

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<v Speaker 3>Malcolm Wallace. Wallace is a hit man for Lyndon Johnson.

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<v Speaker 3>We know this because he was convicted of murder in

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01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:54.880
<v Speaker 3>a trial where he in cold blood shot a man

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01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:58.960
<v Speaker 3>who was having an affair with Johnson's nefarious bisexual party

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01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:03.760
<v Speaker 3>girl sister. He was defended at trial by Johnson's personal attorney.

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01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:07.119
<v Speaker 3>He was bailed out of jail by two of Johnson's

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01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:11.439
<v Speaker 3>closest largest donors, and Johnson hold up in a hotel

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01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:16.000
<v Speaker 3>room near the courthouse in the rural county outside of Dallas,

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01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:22.640
<v Speaker 3>where Malcolm Wallace, the killer was being tried. Wallace is convicted,

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01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:26.600
<v Speaker 3>therefore we get his fingerprints those Max the fingerprints in

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01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:30.680
<v Speaker 3>the sniper's nest. Additionally, six men or women tell either

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01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:33.600
<v Speaker 3>the FBI or the Dallas police that they see a

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01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:36.119
<v Speaker 3>man in the sixth floor window just before the shooting

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01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 3>who is heavy set, middle aged, baulding and wearing spectacles.

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<v Speaker 3>They all say spectacles. That's Malcolm Wallace, a perfect description

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01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:48.399
<v Speaker 3>of him in nineteen sixty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, I put Charles on hold because we have

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01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:53.720
<v Speaker 2>other callers that want to come on in. I might

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01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.399
<v Speaker 2>bring it back on Charles if you want. I got

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01:15:56.520 --> 01:16:01.560
<v Speaker 2>to tell you that recently that evidence of Wallace has

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01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:05.800
<v Speaker 2>been retested. And what would you think if somebody compared

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01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:10.439
<v Speaker 2>his military record fingerprints and was a certified expert Because

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01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Darby's Darby's expertise and his condition at the time that

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01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:17.560
<v Speaker 2>he conducted that study is a bit questionable, to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I agree with you. That's why I commissioned

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01:16:20.800 --> 01:16:23.520
<v Speaker 3>my own independent study. I hired a lab that cost

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01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:27.720
<v Speaker 3>me thirty five thousand dollars. These guys were used by

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01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:31.199
<v Speaker 3>local law enforcement, which is how I tried to do

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01:16:31.359 --> 01:16:34.840
<v Speaker 3>their bona fighties. I believe that you not only have

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<v Speaker 3>a print, but I think there's three other partials. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>we can agree to disagree, and we're here to talk

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01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:41.039
<v Speaker 3>about the Clinton. So let's move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, absolutely so. Next caller is eight O six area code.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the air with Roger Stone. How you doing

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Greg.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad to hear Rochostollin on your show today. I

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01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:56.039
<v Speaker 5>know that he is connected with Donald Trump, worked with

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01:16:56.119 --> 01:16:58.720
<v Speaker 5>him in Prince for a long time. And today Rand

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01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:00.520
<v Speaker 5>Paul was on the floor of the House saying how

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01:17:00.600 --> 01:17:04.199
<v Speaker 5>much Donald Trump has alienated himself in Republicans. And I'm

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01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:07.159
<v Speaker 5>a Republican and I don't feel alienated. I want to

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01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:10.960
<v Speaker 5>know if Rogers thinks that Trump will stick by the

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01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 5>American people, his numbers look good, and will he stick

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01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:15.479
<v Speaker 5>by him? Will you stay the real deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I appreciate the caller. You know, I had a friend

1346
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:23.920
<v Speaker 3>in Lubbock who asked me this question just the other day.

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01:17:24.079 --> 01:17:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that that Trump will drop out. Trump

1348
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:30.239
<v Speaker 3>is a fighter. Trump has not only a lead, but

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01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:34.439
<v Speaker 3>a substantial lead. He has the resources that is necessary

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01:17:34.560 --> 01:17:37.399
<v Speaker 3>for the final sprint. He's going to need to spend

1351
01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:40.560
<v Speaker 3>some personal money at that time. There is, and I

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01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:44.000
<v Speaker 3>can tell you, coming from the establishment Republicans, a multi

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01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:47.880
<v Speaker 3>million dollar attack effort on television and cable and radio

1354
01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:50.279
<v Speaker 3>to try to take him down. It will be han

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01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:53.239
<v Speaker 3>chowed by John Kasik, but the money will be funneled

1356
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:59.439
<v Speaker 3>to Kasik by Marco Rubio. The Rubio Kasick deal is cut.

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01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Marco Rubio for president and the Ohioan John Kasick for

1358
01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:08.359
<v Speaker 3>vice president. They are going to raise from the manufacturers,

1359
01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:13.560
<v Speaker 3>the Chamber of Commerce, the special interest, the lobbyists, the establishment,

1360
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:17.560
<v Speaker 3>several hundred million dollars and they are going to launch

1361
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:20.479
<v Speaker 3>a vicious attack on Donald Trump, an attempt to take

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01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:24.800
<v Speaker 3>him down. Meanwhile, you have Ted Cruz moving up the side,

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01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:30.000
<v Speaker 3>running a very disciplined campaign, really making great strides among

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01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:35.079
<v Speaker 3>the very substantial evangelical Christian segment of these early caucuses

1365
01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:40.000
<v Speaker 3>in primaries, probably a dominant group there in Iowa, not

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01:18:40.159 --> 01:18:43.359
<v Speaker 3>as dominant or as important in New Hampshire. Trump, in

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01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:46.880
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, could win the Iowa caucuses, but he could

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01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:50.079
<v Speaker 3>also come in second. Second would be acceptable because I

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01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:53.720
<v Speaker 3>frankly think New Hampshire is more hospitable to him, and

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01:18:53.840 --> 01:18:56.880
<v Speaker 3>he could bounce back there with the proper campaign. I

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01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:00.640
<v Speaker 3>know then that he would sweep South Carolina. He has

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01:19:00.680 --> 01:19:03.800
<v Speaker 3>an excellent operative there who knows what he's doing, which

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01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:06.920
<v Speaker 3>you can't say for everybody in the Trump campaign. But

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01:19:07.039 --> 01:19:12.039
<v Speaker 3>the man who's handling South Carolina is very adept, very skilled,

1375
01:19:12.119 --> 01:19:16.159
<v Speaker 3>has an excellent grassroots operation. I think the fellow who's

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01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:19.680
<v Speaker 3>working Iowa, who really is the man who engineered the

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01:19:19.760 --> 01:19:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Santaorum victory four years ago, a victory that Santorum was

1378
01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Speaker 3>cheated out of when the media incorrectly reported Mitt Romney

1379
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:32.159
<v Speaker 3>as a surprise winner. I think that that was, you know,

1380
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:36.760
<v Speaker 3>that was remains to be seen. I do think Trump

1381
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.560
<v Speaker 3>could come out first or second in Iowa and still

1382
01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:41.560
<v Speaker 3>end up as the nominee of the Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 6>Great, thank you very much.

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01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:46.920
<v Speaker 5>I hope he sticks by us, and he seems like

1385
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:49.039
<v Speaker 5>his numbers are looking good and everything, and I hope

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01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:51.600
<v Speaker 5>that if he gets an office, he doesn't turn like

1387
01:19:51.640 --> 01:19:52.520
<v Speaker 5>all these other people have.

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01:19:53.119 --> 01:19:55.840
<v Speaker 3>I agree. Now, go immediately to Amazon dot com and

1389
01:19:55.960 --> 01:19:59.680
<v Speaker 3>buy the Clinton's War on Women. Thanks for calling, Thank

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01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:00.239
<v Speaker 3>you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, thanks a lot. And you know, I got to

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01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:05.319
<v Speaker 2>say that when it comes to the Trump thing, and

1393
01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:07.079
<v Speaker 2>I've said it on the air, and I've gone through

1394
01:20:07.159 --> 01:20:11.880
<v Speaker 2>this with various individuals, I do believe that, you know,

1395
01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.000
<v Speaker 2>because these statements keep coming out that are not palatable

1396
01:20:16.399 --> 01:20:20.159
<v Speaker 2>to the majority of people in the country. It seems

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01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:25.840
<v Speaker 2>as though the Trump campaign has kind of been positioned,

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01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.199
<v Speaker 2>in my estimation, to fail based on the fact that

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01:20:29.279 --> 01:20:32.760
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a lot of very brash, very

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01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:36.199
<v Speaker 2>abrasive statements coming out. I mean, not the least of which,

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01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Now you know, I don't know if you've kept up

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01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:40.920
<v Speaker 2>on it. I'm sure you have, though, you know, with

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01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:43.680
<v Speaker 2>this whole thing about checking Muslims, I mean, I don't

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01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.880
<v Speaker 2>know how you feel about that, but I'm going to.

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01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:48.039
<v Speaker 3>Tell you that I if you look at what he

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01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:50.680
<v Speaker 3>has proposed, which is to say, he wants a temporary

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01:20:50.800 --> 01:20:54.319
<v Speaker 3>stop in any Muslim immigration until we can get a

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01:20:54.399 --> 01:20:57.359
<v Speaker 3>handle on setting up a system that's able to vet

1409
01:20:57.439 --> 01:21:00.479
<v Speaker 3>people to make sure that everybody coming here, many of

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01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.640
<v Speaker 3>whom are good, decent people, are not terrorists. I don't

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01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:08.800
<v Speaker 3>think that's unreasonable. These are very difficult and desperate times,

1412
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:13.520
<v Speaker 3>and it calls for temporary, desperate message measures. Now, of course,

1413
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:16.920
<v Speaker 3>the headline is Trump wants to ban Muslim immigration, as

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01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.000
<v Speaker 3>if he's saying we should ban it for all time, which,

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01:21:20.039 --> 01:21:21.720
<v Speaker 3>by the way, even though you've got a bunch of

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01:21:21.960 --> 01:21:25.880
<v Speaker 3>talking heads saying that that's unconstitutional, federal law clearly gives

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01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:29.760
<v Speaker 3>the president the right to block any immigrant group, any

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01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:33.560
<v Speaker 3>alien group, as the law says, for any period of

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01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:36.279
<v Speaker 3>time that he shall decide if they pose a threat

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01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:39.760
<v Speaker 3>to the national interest. He has this authority, so the

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01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:43.399
<v Speaker 3>courts would obviously have to rule on that. But I

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01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:46.039
<v Speaker 3>just don't think it's again. I think the media is

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01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:49.479
<v Speaker 3>quick to try to villainize Trump regardless if we disagree here.

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01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:51.479
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you where I think this will go politically,

1425
01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:54.119
<v Speaker 3>and that is Trump will move up in the polls.

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01:21:54.479 --> 01:21:58.279
<v Speaker 3>This will further galvanize his support, which would increase his

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01:21:58.399 --> 01:22:01.239
<v Speaker 3>chances of being nominated. Now and he went a general election,

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01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:05.760
<v Speaker 3>those who say that he's a loser are that's mistaken.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a narrow path. But if you look at all

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<v Speaker 3>of the polls, and I don't mean the call in polls,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean the ones where you can hit refresh

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<v Speaker 3>and vote again and hit refresh and vote again. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about scientific polls with a proper sample, driven by

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01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:27.720
<v Speaker 3>someone who understands polling and the mathematics they're in, and

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<v Speaker 3>who understands questioning techniques. If you look at those polls,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is running substantially better among blacks, among Catholics and

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01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:41.439
<v Speaker 3>among working house apartment union households that either John McCain

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<v Speaker 3>or Mitt Romney was able to achieve or ever even

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01:22:43.880 --> 01:22:47.039
<v Speaker 3>got close to. So that tells me that he would

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<v Speaker 3>have to bring a lot of He would have to

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01:22:49.920 --> 01:22:52.760
<v Speaker 3>win in those groups. He'd have to make incursions into

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<v Speaker 3>those democratic groups. He would also have to bring in

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01:22:56.760 --> 01:23:00.199
<v Speaker 3>literally millions of people who just don't vote because they

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01:23:00.680 --> 01:23:03.239
<v Speaker 3>are disgusted with the two party duopoly and they think

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing is fixed, which, by the way, they're

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01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:09.039
<v Speaker 3>not wrong, they're right. But if they really believe that

1447
01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Trump would somehow not not be beholden to assist him

1448
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:15.880
<v Speaker 3>because he takes no campaign contributions. You see, even though

1449
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Trump and I disagree on many many things, this is

1450
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:20.560
<v Speaker 3>what I like about him. I think you can't buy him,

1451
01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:24.279
<v Speaker 3>you can't bully him. He doesn't always presidency to another billionaire,

1452
01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:27.079
<v Speaker 3>or to a super pack or to a corporation, or

1453
01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:31.840
<v Speaker 3>to a special interest or a special pleader. He's his

1454
01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.000
<v Speaker 3>own man. And I think in the end he may

1455
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:36.159
<v Speaker 3>make mistakes, but he will do what he thinks is right.

1456
01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:37.359
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1457
01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:39.760
<v Speaker 2>But looking at him from the perspective of and I

1458
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>am one of those people who has become disillusioned with

1459
01:23:42.960 --> 01:23:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the two party you know duopoly that you describe there.

1460
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely the thing is. And I even said at the

1461
01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.159
<v Speaker 2>beginning of this program, the last guy who I pulled

1462
01:23:52.199 --> 01:23:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a lever for for president was named Clinton, for God's sake,

1463
01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:58.760
<v Speaker 2>So that tells you where I'm at with bothering to

1464
01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:00.479
<v Speaker 2>even participate in the process.

1465
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Now, yes, I think that that is understandable. Look the

1466
01:24:06.119 --> 01:24:08.960
<v Speaker 3>people who said, look, I've because he's been a friend

1467
01:24:08.960 --> 01:24:11.520
<v Speaker 3>of mine for thirty seven years, because I you know,

1468
01:24:11.640 --> 01:24:13.960
<v Speaker 3>he attended my wedding. I went to his wedding, went

1469
01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:15.840
<v Speaker 3>to two of his three weddings. As a matter of fact,

1470
01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I was at the wake in funeral for both of

1471
01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:21.359
<v Speaker 3>his parents. I was honored to be there for the

1472
01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:24.800
<v Speaker 3>swearing under his sister as a federal judge under Ronald Reagan.

1473
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:28.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, he is a friend of many years. But

1474
01:24:28.119 --> 01:24:30.199
<v Speaker 3>he's his own man. Nobody puts words in his mouth,

1475
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:32.800
<v Speaker 3>no one ever did. He makes his own decisions. He

1476
01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:37.920
<v Speaker 3>is his own strategist. He is you know, he has

1477
01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:42.439
<v Speaker 3>run a multi billion dollar company. He has made complex decisions.

1478
01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:45.680
<v Speaker 3>He understands the art of negotiation. He's writ in my

1479
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:48.560
<v Speaker 3>opinion about us being taken the cleaners in these one

1480
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:51.640
<v Speaker 3>sided trade deals with the Chinese and the Japanese and

1481
01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:55.039
<v Speaker 3>the Mexicans. We need better deals for the American people.

1482
01:24:56.560 --> 01:24:58.880
<v Speaker 3>It's now the very same people who used to kid

1483
01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:01.560
<v Speaker 3>me and say, oh, come on, he's not running. This

1484
01:25:01.680 --> 01:25:07.760
<v Speaker 3>is an exercise in publicity and branding, burnishing the brand

1485
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:10.319
<v Speaker 3>and the fact that he likes to hear himself talk.

1486
01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:13.119
<v Speaker 3>Then they said, oh, okay, he's running, but he'll never

1487
01:25:13.239 --> 01:25:17.560
<v Speaker 3>file his necessary financial disclosures, which he filed on time.

1488
01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 3>It was Jeb who had to keep filing for extensions.

1489
01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Then they said he would not show up or make

1490
01:25:24.359 --> 01:25:27.199
<v Speaker 3>a fool of himself in the early debates. He went

1491
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:30.600
<v Speaker 3>up after every debate. I think his unscripted nature is

1492
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:33.399
<v Speaker 3>entertaining to people. He is a man working without a net.

1493
01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:36.439
<v Speaker 3>You never know what he might say, speaks from the heart,

1494
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:41.920
<v Speaker 3>and you know whether or not there were hundreds or

1495
01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:47.279
<v Speaker 3>thousands of Muslims or just handsful of Muslims celebrating on

1496
01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:49.359
<v Speaker 3>nine to eleven. It doesn't take away from the fact

1497
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:54.279
<v Speaker 3>that there are some Muslims already in this country who

1498
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:57.840
<v Speaker 3>hate us, and who are don't and who were pleased

1499
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.600
<v Speaker 3>by what happened to us on that date that is deniable.

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01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, there you go. But I take a

1501
01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:05.760
<v Speaker 2>step back, and I say to myself, you know, being

1502
01:26:05.880 --> 01:26:10.560
<v Speaker 2>that this guy is a well advanced negotiator, somebody who

1503
01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:16.039
<v Speaker 2>understands that gaining leverage is one of those very sophisticated

1504
01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>art forms that he has lived by. I mean it's

1505
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:23.039
<v Speaker 2>effectively his entire career as an individual, when you know,

1506
01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:25.319
<v Speaker 2>whether it was real estate or anything else. Yeah, he

1507
01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>took some risks, he always has. This is the kind

1508
01:26:27.800 --> 01:26:31.319
<v Speaker 2>of guy he is. The reality to me, though, is that?

1509
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:33.760
<v Speaker 2>And this is what I feel. This is my prediction.

1510
01:26:33.960 --> 01:26:36.399
<v Speaker 2>And you know you can, you can toss it any

1511
01:26:36.439 --> 01:26:38.319
<v Speaker 2>which way you want. But the thing is, it looks

1512
01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:41.159
<v Speaker 2>more to me like I'm going to gain the leverage here,

1513
01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to hand it over to somebody else. And

1514
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:47.199
<v Speaker 2>and and then guess what people owe me?

1515
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:51.479
<v Speaker 3>You know which I think you under you under estate?

1516
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:56.079
<v Speaker 3>The how, the the narcissist of Donald Trump number one,

1517
01:26:56.239 --> 01:27:00.680
<v Speaker 3>number two, the the self confidence, the case indue spirit.

1518
01:27:01.239 --> 01:27:03.680
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't be running, he believed me, he would not

1519
01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:07.960
<v Speaker 3>go to Iowa fifteen times if he was going to

1520
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.640
<v Speaker 3>hand off this baton. This is very hard work. He

1521
01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:12.960
<v Speaker 3>has the greatest life in the world. He's got a

1522
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>phenomenal apartment in New York, he's got a plush office,

1523
01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:19.239
<v Speaker 3>he's got his own seven twenty seven. He's got a

1524
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:22.640
<v Speaker 3>place he'd much rather be this time of year in Florida.

1525
01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:26.479
<v Speaker 3>He owns not only the fabulous Dorale Country Club in

1526
01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Golf Court, but he also has the Jewel of Palm Beach,

1527
01:27:31.279 --> 01:27:33.840
<v Speaker 3>the mar Lago Estate, which is a private club. So

1528
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:36.119
<v Speaker 3>he has a very rarefied and like he's got a

1529
01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:38.600
<v Speaker 3>great family, he's got great kids. He likes to spend

1530
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:41.319
<v Speaker 3>time with his kids. And he is running for president.

1531
01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:43.399
<v Speaker 3>Believe me, he's not doing it for someone else.

1532
01:27:45.399 --> 01:27:48.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, it just seems to me, and I still believe

1533
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 2>in my in my heart of hearts, what we're going

1534
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:55.239
<v Speaker 2>to see is Bush Clinton again as the selected candidates.

1535
01:27:55.279 --> 01:27:57.760
<v Speaker 2>I really feel that way, and I think that all

1536
01:27:57.840 --> 01:28:00.600
<v Speaker 2>of this which is going on so early, is going

1537
01:28:00.680 --> 01:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>to disappear because really the structure, and this is something

1538
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:08.399
<v Speaker 2>that nobody's looking at, is the structure that it takes

1539
01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:11.439
<v Speaker 2>to get the delegates together to be able to actually

1540
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:15.399
<v Speaker 2>put that push on who actually has that infrastructure in place?

1541
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:17.199
<v Speaker 2>According to your estimation right now.

1542
01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:20.720
<v Speaker 3>I think there are three possible Republican candidates. I agree

1543
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:24.199
<v Speaker 3>with you about Hillary. She's going to win the Democratic nomination,

1544
01:28:24.399 --> 01:28:27.560
<v Speaker 3>but not without sustaining some damage in the way. Putting

1545
01:28:27.640 --> 01:28:31.359
<v Speaker 3>that aside, I think that either Senator Marco Rubio, who

1546
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:33.760
<v Speaker 3>is the boy toy of the billionaires, the new toast

1547
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:36.199
<v Speaker 3>of the establishment, and with the Jeb a lot of

1548
01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:41.479
<v Speaker 3>jebs Key supporters and money now moving to Marco, Senator

1549
01:28:41.560 --> 01:28:45.119
<v Speaker 3>Ted Cruz. And by the way, Marco has Paul Singer,

1550
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:48.680
<v Speaker 3>the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Nagelson, He's going to have multi

1551
01:28:48.840 --> 01:28:55.560
<v Speaker 3>millions to run his campaign. Then you have Senator Ted Cruz,

1552
01:28:55.880 --> 01:28:58.880
<v Speaker 3>who's run a very focused and disciplined, long game campaign,

1553
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:02.199
<v Speaker 3>who's who was probably the best debater in the Republican Party,

1554
01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:05.079
<v Speaker 3>certainly somebody that I'd feel good about going ahead to

1555
01:29:05.119 --> 01:29:07.680
<v Speaker 3>head with Hillary in a debate at least even though

1556
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:10.439
<v Speaker 3>I am, as you know, a strong Trump supporter, I

1557
01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:13.439
<v Speaker 3>like dead Cruise. It's going to be one of those three.

1558
01:29:13.840 --> 01:29:16.479
<v Speaker 3>Nobody else has the legs, or the infrastructure or the

1559
01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>money to survive. I really think, Jeb, if you saw

1560
01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:24.079
<v Speaker 3>a front page story at least I saw it online,

1561
01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:26.399
<v Speaker 3>it was I think a Washington Post story, but I

1562
01:29:26.479 --> 01:29:29.840
<v Speaker 3>saw it in the Sun Sentinel newspaper. Jeb has already

1563
01:29:29.880 --> 01:29:33.399
<v Speaker 3>expended almost thirty million dollars and gone nowhere. He has

1564
01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:37.520
<v Speaker 3>spent lavishly on media. People are seeing Jeb talking about

1565
01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:41.039
<v Speaker 3>national security and it's not moving the needle, not even

1566
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:45.640
<v Speaker 3>an iota. So I would argue that the Republican nominee

1567
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:49.199
<v Speaker 3>will be one of those three. How long Trump stays

1568
01:29:49.239 --> 01:29:51.039
<v Speaker 3>in the race depends on how he does. I don't

1569
01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:54.199
<v Speaker 3>think there's a preordained plan that he's going to drop

1570
01:29:54.279 --> 01:29:56.800
<v Speaker 3>out at a date. Certain if he started running fifth

1571
01:29:58.279 --> 01:30:00.479
<v Speaker 3>and he had no prospect of being nominated, you know,

1572
01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:02.720
<v Speaker 3>who knows what he might do. He's not a fool,

1573
01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:06.359
<v Speaker 3>he wouldn't throw good money after bad. But he's a fighter,

1574
01:30:06.520 --> 01:30:09.119
<v Speaker 3>and he wants the presidency. He certainly wants to win

1575
01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:12.600
<v Speaker 3>this race. He's disgusted by the stupid leadership that we've had.

1576
01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:16.079
<v Speaker 3>He thinks we keep making all kinds of dumb decisions

1577
01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:18.359
<v Speaker 3>that aren't in our national interest. He wants to make

1578
01:30:18.399 --> 01:30:21.960
<v Speaker 3>the country rich again. He wants to make us prosperous again.

1579
01:30:22.039 --> 01:30:24.760
<v Speaker 3>He wants to create jobs. He wants to rebuild our

1580
01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:27.399
<v Speaker 3>military and he would like to have a foreign policy

1581
01:30:27.479 --> 01:30:31.000
<v Speaker 3>that has some common sense to it. We keep switching sides.

1582
01:30:31.439 --> 01:30:33.720
<v Speaker 3>We end up fighting our own guns because we can't

1583
01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:36.399
<v Speaker 3>decide who to arm, or we don't even keep tracks

1584
01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:40.079
<v Speaker 3>of who are arming to the teeth. You're worried about ISIS.

1585
01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:45.840
<v Speaker 3>George W. Bush created ISIS and Hillary armed ISIS. That's

1586
01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:46.279
<v Speaker 3>a fact.

1587
01:30:46.720 --> 01:30:50.359
<v Speaker 2>That's an absolute fact, and that is definitely not lost

1588
01:30:50.439 --> 01:30:53.319
<v Speaker 2>on me. The fact that we don't seem to know

1589
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>who our enemy is because every time we turn around,

1590
01:30:56.079 --> 01:30:58.399
<v Speaker 2>we're fighting somebody that we supplied previously.

1591
01:30:59.319 --> 01:31:01.960
<v Speaker 3>It's enough enough of this. We need a clean slate.

1592
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:05.279
<v Speaker 3>How about a foreign policy that's in our best interests.

1593
01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1594
01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Imagine that they start pressing about Israel and he

1595
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:13.520
<v Speaker 3>basically says, I'll tell you what I think after I

1596
01:31:13.640 --> 01:31:16.199
<v Speaker 3>meet with Beebe and the people start booing. I think

1597
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:18.319
<v Speaker 3>he has that right to answer the questions. After he

1598
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:21.560
<v Speaker 3>meets with net and Hayaho. He's going to see the

1599
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Prime Minister here shortly he's on his way to Israel. Instead,

1600
01:31:24.920 --> 01:31:27.880
<v Speaker 3>he gets an assault from the media and the people

1601
01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:31.479
<v Speaker 3>in the room. Some Jewish Republicans start booing. I think

1602
01:31:31.520 --> 01:31:33.960
<v Speaker 3>it's he didn't say he didn't give a definitive answer.

1603
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:35.560
<v Speaker 3>He said he wanted to wait until he spoke to

1604
01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:38.920
<v Speaker 3>the Prime minister. Completely fair in my opinion. And then

1605
01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:41.600
<v Speaker 3>this morning there was this incredible scene on Morning Joe

1606
01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:47.920
<v Speaker 3>where he was talking. He answered three questions in three minutes,

1607
01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:51.359
<v Speaker 3>not unreasonable, and suddenly Joe Scarborough blows up and says,

1608
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:54.479
<v Speaker 3>you're filibustering. You're not letting us talk, You're not letting

1609
01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:57.560
<v Speaker 3>us answer questions. You just keep talking. If you don't stop,

1610
01:31:57.560 --> 01:31:58.960
<v Speaker 3>we're going to go to break and Trump says, what

1611
01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.000
<v Speaker 3>are you talking about? I'm answering your questions. Do you

1612
01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:03.399
<v Speaker 3>not want to hear what I have to say?

1613
01:32:04.079 --> 01:32:04.199
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

1614
01:32:04.720 --> 01:32:07.640
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean the guy through Uh Scarborough threw a

1615
01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:10.479
<v Speaker 3>hissy fit on national television.

1616
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Which they've been doing, you know, over this guy. The

1617
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:18.840
<v Speaker 2>one thing that that that I have absolutely no disagreement

1618
01:32:18.840 --> 01:32:21.520
<v Speaker 2>with you on is that it's been very entertaining to

1619
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:24.760
<v Speaker 2>to watch this guy do his thing. And uh, you know,

1620
01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>you may be right though I might be underestimating the narcissism,

1621
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>but it just seems to me as though this what

1622
01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:35.479
<v Speaker 2>the way it's going to play out is either Rubio

1623
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:38.479
<v Speaker 2>or Cruz is your VP. Candidate. And I still say

1624
01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:40.640
<v Speaker 2>that somehow or other, the smoke is going to clear

1625
01:32:41.079 --> 01:32:44.159
<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna shove push forward. I really feel that way,

1626
01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:47.079
<v Speaker 2>because it's like it's like a pop balloon.

1627
01:32:47.159 --> 01:32:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, once a balloon is popped, you can never reinflate it.

1628
01:32:51.760 --> 01:32:54.720
<v Speaker 3>I think his problems are that bad. He is, he is,

1629
01:32:54.920 --> 01:32:58.079
<v Speaker 3>his campaign skills are rusty. He is I wants to

1630
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:00.359
<v Speaker 3>go out and defend common Core, which is I think

1631
01:33:00.439 --> 01:33:02.960
<v Speaker 3>going to be death in the Republican primaries. He's been

1632
01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:06.399
<v Speaker 3>all over the map on immigration. He's got these very

1633
01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:10.319
<v Speaker 3>shady business deals where five of his former partners are

1634
01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:13.800
<v Speaker 3>in prison or went to prison. He has got what

1635
01:33:13.960 --> 01:33:18.319
<v Speaker 3>I think are tangential involvement in drugs, which I have

1636
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.079
<v Speaker 3>as a major centerpiece in my upcoming book, Jeb and

1637
01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:23.159
<v Speaker 3>the Bush Crime Family. I got to tell you, when

1638
01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:25.560
<v Speaker 3>you write a book like this, one hundred the eight

1639
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:28.680
<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars an hour, lawyers for your publisher put you

1640
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:33.680
<v Speaker 3>through the ringer on libel at slander and documentation. And

1641
01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:38.039
<v Speaker 3>none of this, none of the bombshell revelations about the

1642
01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:45.239
<v Speaker 3>bushes and drugs, assassination, murder, adultery, gay prostitutes. This is

1643
01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>a very colorful story in Jeb and the Bush Crime Family,

1644
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.039
<v Speaker 3>which you can actually even though it's not out until

1645
01:33:52.119 --> 01:33:55.159
<v Speaker 3>late January. And I'm going to Manchester, New Hampshire to

1646
01:33:55.239 --> 01:33:58.479
<v Speaker 3>launch this book just before the New Hampshire primary to

1647
01:33:58.560 --> 01:34:00.600
<v Speaker 3>make sure Chuck, you're wrong. I need to make sure

1648
01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:01.399
<v Speaker 3>you're wrong.

1649
01:34:02.800 --> 01:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Well good, I'm happy to hear this because this information

1650
01:34:07.039 --> 01:34:09.439
<v Speaker 2>needs to get out. And I'm looking forward to that

1651
01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:13.399
<v Speaker 2>book from you, because again, you did such a stellar

1652
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:19.960
<v Speaker 2>job of really putting together the indictment, the moral and

1653
01:34:20.119 --> 01:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>legal indictment here of the Clintons here in this war

1654
01:34:23.319 --> 01:34:27.239
<v Speaker 2>on Women book. But I do still have this sticking point,

1655
01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:30.119
<v Speaker 2>which is that, you know, remember there was this candidate

1656
01:34:30.199 --> 01:34:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Clinton who did not stand a chance, it seemed, and

1657
01:34:35.079 --> 01:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>even despite some of the you know, some of the

1658
01:34:38.319 --> 01:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>scandals erupting at the time, this guy came from behind,

1659
01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:46.199
<v Speaker 2>showed up and turned in second in one of those primaries.

1660
01:34:46.279 --> 01:34:49.159
<v Speaker 2>And you know that's where that phrase got coined, the

1661
01:34:49.640 --> 01:34:54.359
<v Speaker 2>comeback kid, and emerged from seemingly nowhere. And meanwhile, they

1662
01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:57.520
<v Speaker 2>had laid the groundwork for years for al Gore to

1663
01:34:57.640 --> 01:34:58.439
<v Speaker 2>be that man.

1664
01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's true. Let me try to explain it.

1665
01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:03.680
<v Speaker 3>As best as I understand it. Yes, they were the

1666
01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:06.359
<v Speaker 3>same age, and they were very much competitors for the mantle.

1667
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:09.640
<v Speaker 3>They both recognized that under McGovern the party had lifted

1668
01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.840
<v Speaker 3>too far left and they'd lost all the white people.

1669
01:35:13.479 --> 01:35:17.039
<v Speaker 3>They weren't getting any white Democrats. They were mostly voting Republican.

1670
01:35:17.479 --> 01:35:22.479
<v Speaker 3>So they had a party of unions, Hispanics, blacks, and

1671
01:35:22.720 --> 01:35:25.720
<v Speaker 3>old white liberals and Jews. That was the Democratic Party.

1672
01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Clinton was the guy who said, we've got to pull

1673
01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:30.600
<v Speaker 3>back working class white Democrats in the West in the South,

1674
01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:34.439
<v Speaker 3>and he was able to successfully do so. I think

1675
01:35:34.479 --> 01:35:36.880
<v Speaker 3>he was more skillful than al Gore. Al Gore was

1676
01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:39.319
<v Speaker 3>a stiff. Al Gore didn't have the chops or the

1677
01:35:39.399 --> 01:35:43.159
<v Speaker 3>political skills of Bill Clinton, who can be very charming,

1678
01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:47.159
<v Speaker 3>who's a real con man. Al Gore is a guy

1679
01:35:47.239 --> 01:35:49.439
<v Speaker 3>that never had any game none. He was a stiff.

1680
01:35:49.960 --> 01:35:54.000
<v Speaker 3>He made Nixon look you look smooth. He was so

1681
01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:57.399
<v Speaker 3>bad on the stump in three debates with George W. Bush,

1682
01:35:57.960 --> 01:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>he was three different guys. He couldn't figure out who

1683
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:03.479
<v Speaker 3>he was. They had no consistency. First he was too tough,

1684
01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:06.399
<v Speaker 3>then he was too soft, and then he maybe he

1685
01:36:06.560 --> 01:36:10.399
<v Speaker 3>was just right it's hard to know. He booted the presidency.

1686
01:36:10.479 --> 01:36:12.720
<v Speaker 3>And I think that in the end, who did George?

1687
01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:15.560
<v Speaker 3>Who did Bill Clinton go to for vice president? This

1688
01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:19.000
<v Speaker 3>is almost unheard of. Arkansas and Tennessee border each other,

1689
01:36:20.359 --> 01:36:22.359
<v Speaker 3>but he goes to al Gore for vice president.

1690
01:36:23.279 --> 01:36:26.479
<v Speaker 2>Right when it comes to a regional you know sort

1691
01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:29.159
<v Speaker 2>of considerations. I mean, you got to consider if you

1692
01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:31.279
<v Speaker 2>got one guy from the South, you generally need another

1693
01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>guy from the North on the ticket. I mean that's

1694
01:36:33.680 --> 01:36:36.159
<v Speaker 2>just the way of saying the North or the West.

1695
01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:38.319
<v Speaker 3>Because bub has got the South handle. Why do you

1696
01:36:38.359 --> 01:36:41.119
<v Speaker 3>need another Southerner? But he takes up all people, al

1697
01:36:41.239 --> 01:36:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Gore and then of course Gore. He gets the House

1698
01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:48.960
<v Speaker 3>of Cards scenario. Early he understands that Bill is supposed

1699
01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:52.279
<v Speaker 3>to be succeeded not by him, but by Hillary. This

1700
01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:55.079
<v Speaker 3>is why he doesn't ask Clinton to campaign for him.

1701
01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Al Gore figured out that his winning was not in

1702
01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:03.720
<v Speaker 3>the Clinton plan. He was the Hillary. I believe Hillary

1703
01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:07.079
<v Speaker 3>that Bill and Hillary Clinton are involved. This is my

1704
01:37:07.199 --> 01:37:09.239
<v Speaker 3>next book. I'm focusing on the death of John F.

1705
01:37:09.319 --> 01:37:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Kennedy Junior, because he was warming up for the US

1706
01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Senate seat that Hillary decided to run for, and there

1707
01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:18.399
<v Speaker 3>are many, many, many strange things about his death and

1708
01:37:18.520 --> 01:37:22.720
<v Speaker 3>the flight the mainstream media has not covered correctly. So

1709
01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:25.000
<v Speaker 3>that is the book I'm working on today. Anyway, without

1710
01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:29.520
<v Speaker 3>getting sidetracked, I think al Gore figured out that Hillary

1711
01:37:29.600 --> 01:37:32.800
<v Speaker 3>wanted the presidency and his winning was not in the cards.

1712
01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:35.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think the Clintons were at all unhappy with

1713
01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:39.600
<v Speaker 3>the election of George W. Bush. After after all, George W.

1714
01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Says Bill is like his brother, and that makes Hillary

1715
01:37:43.079 --> 01:37:46.439
<v Speaker 3>his sister in law. As I said earlier, right Barbara

1716
01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Bush described Barbara Bush describes Baba as the fifth Bush brother.

1717
01:37:51.039 --> 01:37:52.560
<v Speaker 2>But one thing you do have to give him credit

1718
01:37:52.680 --> 01:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>for is that he was quite the slick con man,

1719
01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:58.279
<v Speaker 2>because after all, like I say, the public perception of

1720
01:37:58.359 --> 01:38:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the man has not even begun to approach the reality,

1721
01:38:03.159 --> 01:38:07.000
<v Speaker 2>which is, you know this very deep deep.

1722
01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:10.000
<v Speaker 3>Yet that's why I think the Clintons are making a

1723
01:38:10.199 --> 01:38:12.880
<v Speaker 3>giant mistake by putting everything back on the table. And

1724
01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:17.840
<v Speaker 3>that is my point. Everything is on the table. Whitewater Lewinski,

1725
01:38:18.960 --> 01:38:24.520
<v Speaker 3>These epic, horrific, vicious, brutal rapes, drugs, drug trafficking, drug use,

1726
01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:30.159
<v Speaker 3>Hillary's use of private detectives, Hillary's threats, Hillary's profiteering through

1727
01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:34.319
<v Speaker 3>cattle futures, the selling of pardons, the stealing of china,

1728
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:38.399
<v Speaker 3>furniture and silverware when they left the White House. It's

1729
01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:40.520
<v Speaker 3>all back on the table. The Clintons have decided to

1730
01:38:40.560 --> 01:38:43.800
<v Speaker 3>gamble at all. They could both be destroyed in this campaign.

1731
01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:46.800
<v Speaker 3>I think they will be destroyed in this campaign. You're right.

1732
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:49.800
<v Speaker 3>People have fond memories and they generally like Bill Clinton.

1733
01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:53.720
<v Speaker 3>That's going to change because he didn't know when to retire.

1734
01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:56.439
<v Speaker 3>He didn't know when to keep grasping for power. As

1735
01:38:56.479 --> 01:38:59.399
<v Speaker 3>he told a very high level Democrat a year ago,

1736
01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:02.680
<v Speaker 3>if I get Hillary in there, I'll be running the show.

1737
01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:06.239
<v Speaker 2>There you go, listen, I'm gonna go to one more

1738
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:11.239
<v Speaker 2>phone caller here, three one, three are on the air.

1739
01:39:11.359 --> 01:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Was Roger Stone.

1740
01:39:13.800 --> 01:39:18.960
<v Speaker 6>Good evening, Chuck, Good evening, mister Stone, greetings. I was

1741
01:39:19.039 --> 01:39:19.479
<v Speaker 6>calling in.

1742
01:39:19.960 --> 01:39:22.960
<v Speaker 5>Because I had a few questions about whether or not

1743
01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:25.199
<v Speaker 5>mister Stone thought that perhaps.

1744
01:39:25.319 --> 01:39:27.560
<v Speaker 6>There could have been other people that might have been

1745
01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:33.279
<v Speaker 6>might have benefited or plotted the assassination rather than Lindon Johnson.

1746
01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:34.960
<v Speaker 4>Is that possible?

1747
01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh? I not only think it's possible, I make that

1748
01:39:37.600 --> 01:39:40.760
<v Speaker 3>very case. In other words, I think I think Johnson

1749
01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:43.960
<v Speaker 3>was the drum major of of an effort that involved

1750
01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:46.800
<v Speaker 3>the Central Intelligence Agency was upset about both the Bay

1751
01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:49.840
<v Speaker 3>of Pigs and the handling of the Cuban missile crisis,

1752
01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:52.720
<v Speaker 3>in which they believed Kennedy back down because he withdrew

1753
01:39:53.039 --> 01:39:57.319
<v Speaker 3>US missiles from Turkey and Italy, which was classified information

1754
01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:00.359
<v Speaker 3>at the time but was true. You had the mob.

1755
01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:04.520
<v Speaker 3>They had put a million dollars into John Kennedy's campaign

1756
01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:08.479
<v Speaker 3>through his father, Ambassador Joseph P. Kennedy. They had been

1757
01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:11.840
<v Speaker 3>promised that the new administration would not harass and try

1758
01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:17.640
<v Speaker 3>to deport Santo Trafficante and Carlos Marcello, the two most

1759
01:40:17.680 --> 01:40:21.119
<v Speaker 3>important mobsters of their day. Marcello ran the mob in

1760
01:40:21.239 --> 01:40:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Texas in Louisiana and Trafficante ran the mob in Florida,

1761
01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:32.159
<v Speaker 3>both by the way, major donors to Lyndon Johnson, and

1762
01:40:32.239 --> 01:40:35.359
<v Speaker 3>they were double crossed. When Joe Kennedy was struck and

1763
01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:38.800
<v Speaker 3>was hit with a stroke and was incapacitated, Attorney General

1764
01:40:38.880 --> 01:40:42.119
<v Speaker 3>Robert Kennedy went after both mobsters. That's why they are

1765
01:40:42.199 --> 01:40:45.159
<v Speaker 3>involved Big Texas Oil, which is the funny and seer.

1766
01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:47.800
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, I make this case in the book

1767
01:40:48.279 --> 01:40:53.880
<v Speaker 3>of the Kennedy assassination. I think that they know they're

1768
01:40:53.960 --> 01:40:56.840
<v Speaker 3>upset about the repeal of the oil depletion allowance, which

1769
01:40:56.920 --> 01:40:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Kennedy's going public on. Lyndon Johnson is the key chief

1770
01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:03.359
<v Speaker 3>water carrier. Now. Johnson has a key connection to each

1771
01:41:03.399 --> 01:41:06.119
<v Speaker 3>one of those. During the fifties, he sits on the

1772
01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:09.479
<v Speaker 3>secret budget committees, is very rare. The Senate Majority leader

1773
01:41:09.760 --> 01:41:12.239
<v Speaker 3>never sits on a committee, but he has the authority

1774
01:41:12.720 --> 01:41:15.960
<v Speaker 3>to appoint himself to a committee. Johnson appointed himself to

1775
01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:20.600
<v Speaker 3>the Subcommittee of the Aerospace and Defense Appropriations, where the

1776
01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:24.880
<v Speaker 3>black box secret budgets of the CIA are handled secretly.

1777
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:29.399
<v Speaker 3>When he leaves to become Vice president, he ensconces as

1778
01:41:29.439 --> 01:41:32.199
<v Speaker 3>his last act, leaving the Senate. Senator Harry F. Bird

1779
01:41:32.239 --> 01:41:37.199
<v Speaker 3>of Virginia, a close core cohort and loyalist, but who

1780
01:41:37.279 --> 01:41:40.279
<v Speaker 3>is also the cousin of D. H. Bird, the man

1781
01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:43.960
<v Speaker 3>who owns the Texas school Book Depository and the chairman

1782
01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:47.880
<v Speaker 3>of the Lyndon Johnson for President Finance Committee in nineteen sixty.

1783
01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:55.720
<v Speaker 3>So J. Johnson's also being paid by the mob through

1784
01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:58.279
<v Speaker 3>a man by name Jack Helfer. He's being bribed by

1785
01:41:58.399 --> 01:42:03.039
<v Speaker 3>Marcello to tell the the US attorneys in San Antonio, Houston,

1786
01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:07.359
<v Speaker 3>and Dallas to stand down in their investigation to the

1787
01:42:07.399 --> 01:42:11.479
<v Speaker 3>mob's illegal gambling operations. Halfer would later be pardoned by

1788
01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:15.039
<v Speaker 3>Lyndon Johnson, the Bagman, when he was convicted on another crime.

1789
01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:18.560
<v Speaker 3>So everybody's motive is clear. And of course Lyndon Johnson

1790
01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:21.279
<v Speaker 3>is the cheap water carrier for the Texas oil lobby's

1791
01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:24.560
<v Speaker 3>why I think, and his control of the Texas local

1792
01:42:24.640 --> 01:42:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Law enforcement the DA makes him an indispensable person. So

1793
01:42:28.560 --> 01:42:31.520
<v Speaker 3>anyone who says Osta says Stone says it was Johnson

1794
01:42:31.640 --> 01:42:34.199
<v Speaker 3>not the CIA, or Stone says it was Johnson not

1795
01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:37.399
<v Speaker 3>the Mob, That's not what I say. Read my book. Thanks,

1796
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:41.640
<v Speaker 3>So what do you think of that?

1797
01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:47.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean Johnson being involved, Yes, the the Central Intelligence

1798
01:42:47.439 --> 01:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Agency possibly utilizing you know, assets that are Mob related. Actually,

1799
01:42:53.359 --> 01:42:56.880
<v Speaker 2>that sounds a lot more sensible than the way that

1800
01:42:56.960 --> 01:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>people represent mister Stone's book, wouldn't you say?

1801
01:42:59.680 --> 01:42:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Call it?

1802
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:01.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1803
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:05.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I haven't had a chance to hear the whole show,

1804
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:07.119
<v Speaker 6>but I was wondering did anybody mention any of the

1805
01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:08.920
<v Speaker 6>Johnson conversations with Hoover?

1806
01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:12.720
<v Speaker 3>For sure, I think there's been First of all, Johnson,

1807
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:15.800
<v Speaker 3>remember in the conversations with Hoover. Only Johnson knows he's

1808
01:43:15.840 --> 01:43:18.680
<v Speaker 3>being taped, but Hoover's taking them himself, because these are

1809
01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:21.880
<v Speaker 3>two old bastards who know each other, and Johnson is

1810
01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:25.640
<v Speaker 3>play acting. Go look and listen to it and understand

1811
01:43:25.680 --> 01:43:28.279
<v Speaker 3>the real in Johnson. This is the beauty of Robert

1812
01:43:28.359 --> 01:43:32.039
<v Speaker 3>Carow's three volumes, even though he never mentions Billy Salstess,

1813
01:43:32.039 --> 01:43:35.359
<v Speaker 3>who would later testify under oath that Johnson directed the

1814
01:43:35.439 --> 01:43:40.000
<v Speaker 3>murder of Kennedy. Caro tells you what a consummate actor

1815
01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:44.680
<v Speaker 3>and bs artist and manipulator Lyndon Johnson is. So those

1816
01:43:44.720 --> 01:43:48.840
<v Speaker 3>tapes are all interesting, but Hoover, and Hoover tells Johnson,

1817
01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:54.199
<v Speaker 3>we've got a problem. There's another guy running around saying

1818
01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:57.600
<v Speaker 3>in Mexico City saying he was Oswalt. But it doesn't

1819
01:43:57.680 --> 01:44:00.560
<v Speaker 3>match the guy seen by our agents or viewed on

1820
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:03.119
<v Speaker 3>the tape. So there's a lot of there's a lot

1821
01:44:03.159 --> 01:44:06.399
<v Speaker 3>of interesting stuff in the Johnson recordings. Johnson, if you

1822
01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:09.079
<v Speaker 3>listen to any of these recordings which are online, he

1823
01:44:09.239 --> 01:44:20.079
<v Speaker 3>is a master of chicanery, lying, thundering, yelling, cajoling, sweet talking, begging, manipulating.

1824
01:44:20.319 --> 01:44:22.319
<v Speaker 3>The tapes are absolutely breathtaking.

1825
01:44:23.920 --> 01:44:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1826
01:44:24.199 --> 01:44:27.159
<v Speaker 6>No, I note on that note, I do agree with you,

1827
01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:29.319
<v Speaker 6>mister shown. I think that Gwynan Johnson was a villain.

1828
01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:31.880
<v Speaker 6>I just think that there was a lot of I

1829
01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:35.000
<v Speaker 6>think there was a lot of people that had motivations.

1830
01:44:35.039 --> 01:44:36.520
<v Speaker 6>I don't necessarily think question.

1831
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:39.560
<v Speaker 3>The CIA motivation is clear, The mob motivation is clear.

1832
01:44:39.600 --> 01:44:42.079
<v Speaker 3>I think that those who say that he that Kennedy

1833
01:44:42.199 --> 01:44:45.119
<v Speaker 3>was starting to move with monetary reform, he was challenging

1834
01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:48.760
<v Speaker 3>the legitimacy the FED all completely accurate. The bankers wanted

1835
01:44:48.880 --> 01:44:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Kennedy out. The Central Intelligence Agency thought the communists were

1836
01:44:52.399 --> 01:44:54.760
<v Speaker 3>taking to the cleaners, that he was soft. The defense

1837
01:44:54.840 --> 01:44:59.680
<v Speaker 3>contractors wanted the Vietnam War Oliverstone issue. Everybody's motive is clear,

1838
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:02.920
<v Speaker 3>but nobody's motive is more acute than Johnson. And here's why.

1839
01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:06.399
<v Speaker 3>He knows that December first Life Magazine's breaking a story

1840
01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:09.239
<v Speaker 3>on his corruption and the millions that he has made.

1841
01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:11.520
<v Speaker 3>He knows the story has been fed to them by

1842
01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:14.479
<v Speaker 3>the Justice Department, and that Johnson is implicated in two

1843
01:45:14.560 --> 01:45:19.399
<v Speaker 3>giant scandals, the Billy Salastie scandal, where Johnson's taking kickbacks

1844
01:45:19.439 --> 01:45:23.439
<v Speaker 3>from Salstice, a Texas wheeler dealer who Johnson has arranged

1845
01:45:23.479 --> 01:45:27.880
<v Speaker 3>to get enormous federal multimillion dollar phony contracts and the

1846
01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:30.359
<v Speaker 3>Bobby Baker scandal. Bobby Baker is the Secretary of the

1847
01:45:30.479 --> 01:45:34.439
<v Speaker 3>US Senate and he's Johnson's bag man. No nothing moves

1848
01:45:34.479 --> 01:45:37.239
<v Speaker 3>in the Senate without a giant cash payoff to good

1849
01:45:37.279 --> 01:45:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Old LBJ and his partner Bobby Baker. Johnson knows that

1850
01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:45.319
<v Speaker 3>the Justice Department is investigating both the FBI is questioning people.

1851
01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:49.039
<v Speaker 3>He knows that Bobby Kennedy is feeding this information to

1852
01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:52.319
<v Speaker 3>Time Life through Henry Loose. He knows that this story

1853
01:45:52.439 --> 01:45:54.840
<v Speaker 3>is going to break December first, and he is the

1854
01:45:54.920 --> 01:45:57.880
<v Speaker 3>cover and it's all over. It's the jail time for

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<v Speaker 3>good Old LBJ. He also knows that the Sunday column

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<v Speaker 3>for Drew Pearson the day after Kennedy was shot, was

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<v Speaker 3>scheduled to be a column that exposed Johnson in taking

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<v Speaker 3>a giant multimillion dollar bribe in the TFX matter where

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01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:19.439
<v Speaker 3>he was bribed by General Dynamics, and as Vice president,

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<v Speaker 3>he reached into the Defense Department, reversed the decision and

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01:46:22.760 --> 01:46:26.359
<v Speaker 3>delivered this contract to his cronies that was also coming

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<v Speaker 3>home to roost, and he knew it as president. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>he was able to stop all of those investigations that drew.

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<v Speaker 3>Pearson's story was spiked and was never rescheduled, and Pearson

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<v Speaker 3>can be heard on tape with his nose of Johnson's

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<v Speaker 3>dairy air.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there you go. What do you think of that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, once again, I think that you know, Lyndon Johnson

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<v Speaker 6>was definitely a villain, But I'm not sure. I think

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<v Speaker 6>that there are a lot of people that, as mister

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<v Speaker 6>Jung said, there are a lot of people with motivations.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't think necessarily that Lyndon Johnson might have

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<v Speaker 6>done all the things he did. He might have done

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<v Speaker 6>them also to cover the peripheral crimes that as the

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<v Speaker 6>s own is referring to. I don't think that Johnson

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<v Speaker 6>might have such a clear cut case against Kennedy just

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<v Speaker 6>because yes, he was an actor. But could he have

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<v Speaker 6>accounted for every time in private?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would look at I would someone. I would

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<v Speaker 3>recommend several things. First of all, you need to I

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<v Speaker 3>would recommend you read LBJ The Mastermind by the great

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<v Speaker 3>Phil Nelson, And then I would urge you to read

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<v Speaker 3>this follow up book, Johnson The Colossus, which focus more

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<v Speaker 3>on the post assassination and the cover up. Also excellent

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<v Speaker 3>is Barr McClellan's book, Blood, Money, and Power. Now, these men,

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<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, are giants, and in my book I

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<v Speaker 3>tried to build on their research while at the same

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<v Speaker 3>time giving them full credit and all I ask. And

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<v Speaker 3>I respect folks like Chuck who have a different theory,

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<v Speaker 3>studied it and given it fair consideration. I respect them.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a this is about a discussion. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think if you will read those books and I hopefully mine,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be honored you will reach the same conclusion I did.

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<v Speaker 3>But I appreciate your questions. They're very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Grank you well, you know, we're just about out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for calling in. We're just about out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>And we did go all over the map here. And

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<v Speaker 2>I do appreciate you indulging us, mister Stone, because you're you,

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<v Speaker 2>in and of yourself, are a fascinating character. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we could put the books aside and talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just your career and and I would have an enlightening conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. But it is really, really extremely enthralling to

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<v Speaker 2>me that this book right here, which again I'm holding

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<v Speaker 2>in my hands, the Clinton's War on women gives you

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<v Speaker 2>a real serious deep glance into exactly how deep the

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<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole truly goes regarding the multiple conspiratorial things that

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<v Speaker 2>occurred here to bring about the rise to power and

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<v Speaker 2>all of the things that went on after, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>post the rise to power.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just say, yeah, I think you said it rights.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a crime story. It's the story of the Clinton

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<v Speaker 3>crime Syndicate and then later the Clinton Bush crime Syndicate,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's all there. This is going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>bookend with my next book. In other words, I covered

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<v Speaker 3>the Bush and Clinton conspiring and profiteering in the Clinton's

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<v Speaker 3>War with women, and then I produced additional information in

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<v Speaker 3>the upcoming Jeb and the Bush crime family because their

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<v Speaker 3>bookend stories, they're in it together. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>like the major parties. It's one party, the Wall Street Party,

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<v Speaker 3>the big money party, the special interest party, the party

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<v Speaker 3>of endless war and spying on American citizens. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>party of erosion of our civil liberties, millions and million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars of debt. Look, I was excited to see that

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<v Speaker 3>you asked me. I'm a big fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really honored that you had me here. We had

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<v Speaker 3>a really good time and I've enjoyed it well. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not know that you even knew I existed, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>but I I.

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<v Speaker 3>Surf around and I listened to I'm an internet guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Twitter, I love Facebook. I've seen your stuff

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<v Speaker 3>on Facebook and started picking up some of your shows.

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<v Speaker 3>This has been great and I'd love to be honored

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<v Speaker 3>to come back when the Bush Book comes out talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that week.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, we have to do that. Thank you, mister Stone,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you to all you guys for listening to

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<v Speaker 2>the Ocelli Effect tonight. My guest Roger Stone, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you right now, I don't often say go get

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<v Speaker 2>the book, but I'm telling you this is an essential

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<v Speaker 2>read if you want to understand the Clinton's war on

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<v Speaker 2>women and a lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll catch you next time, and thank you again, mister Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody have a good night.