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Full disclosure, I did not listen in on 10 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:36,320 the Supreme Court oral arguments that were heard on this case, 11 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:39,200 but I'm going to talk with you as if I did. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,399 But I mean, we have the details of the case, 13 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:48,000 but I did not listen to the oral arguments that 14 00:00:48,039 --> 00:00:53,560 were heard about the debate over whether elementary schools can 15 00:00:53,679 --> 00:01:00,920 skip parental notice when the teachers are reading the dirty 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,680 books to your kids. Okay, so here's the CNN story 17 00:01:06,799 --> 00:01:13,120 for Billy MoG's mogus magis moj How would you pronounce 18 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:19,799 that m O G E s mojes. Billy Mogis, it's 19 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:24,000 a woman and for her, the fight with a Washington, 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,920 DC area school district over the reading of LGB t 21 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:31,159 Q plus books in elementary school as a matter of faith. 22 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,280 She said, quote, we have no hate for anyone. 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:36,599 Speaker 2: She says. 24 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: What we're saying is that we as parents do not 25 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,920 want our children to be exposed to these ideas at 26 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,560 this age because they are not ready for it. She 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,760 is one of the Christian parents who sued Maryland's largest 28 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,359 school district over the policy in a case that has 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,400 gone to the US Supreme Court. But for the Montgomery 30 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:04,599 COUNTYBLIC schools and for civil rights groups, giving way to 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,800 mojes would lead to an administrative nightmare. It would require 32 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:15,759 teachers to foresee and alert parents to any concept discussed 33 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:21,840 in the classroom that might possibly conflict with their religious beliefs. See, 34 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,919 this is malicious compliance, That's what this is. This is 35 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:32,199 a form of malicious compliance. Like I can't possibly know 36 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,000 that I'm going to, you know, bring this book into 37 00:02:35,039 --> 00:02:37,840 the classroom and do a story time reading session with 38 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,560 your six year old? How could I possibly know the 39 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,759 if only teachers, I have an idea? How about this? 40 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,639 Because you know me, I'm all about solutions. How about 41 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:56,039 we have teachers draw up I don't know, like some 42 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,000 sort of an agenda, like a plan. Teachers could have 43 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:04,479 like a plan, and then you would know what they're 44 00:03:04,479 --> 00:03:08,919 going to be teaching throughout the semester and throughout the 45 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,759 year and call it like a lesson plan or something. 46 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,919 We could Yeah, we could draw those up, and then 47 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,400 if you want to teach the dirty books, we would 48 00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:19,560 know that the dirty books are on your lesson plan, right, 49 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,520 because there isn't any reason why you should just, like 50 00:03:24,719 --> 00:03:28,240 on a whim, pick up the story about you know, 51 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,719 Johnny has two dads to read to the the second graders. 52 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,000 That shouldn't be something that's just oh, you know what, 53 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,680 I was planning this other thing. But instead, you know, 54 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,680 let's let's learn about transgenderism. 55 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,319 Speaker 2: Right. 56 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:50,199 Speaker 1: You realize these topics are not popular to be read 57 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:55,639 to young kids, right, And if you are not aware 58 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,719 of this, then I would submit you should not be 59 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,639 teaching the youth because it indicates you either have an 60 00:04:02,719 --> 00:04:07,280 ideological blind spot or you are not very bright. Okay, 61 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,199 so I don't think you should be charged with teaching 62 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,439 the future generations. By the way, I just saw where 63 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:24,120 was it Linda McMahon, the education secretary. She said something 64 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:27,399 like only forty percent of the kids can read a 65 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,360 grade level in third grade like that, like whatever you're doing, 66 00:04:33,519 --> 00:04:40,120 stop doing it. Okay, it's not working. So this is 67 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,519 the malicious compliance aspect of it, because they say, oh 68 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,920 my gosh, if we have to, we have to stop 69 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:47,600 the class every single time we would have to, we 70 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:50,120 would have to look ahead and know that your little 71 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:54,360 kid is asking about Johnny's two dads like no, and 72 00:04:54,439 --> 00:05:00,560 North Carolina lawmakers actually had this debate when they were 73 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,600 going over this issue what last year because this is 74 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:08,040 what is thrown out there as some sort of an excuse. 75 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:12,519 It's not persuasive. Okay, it's not persuasive at all. And 76 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,759 that's why North Carolina lawmakers recognizing that it's not persuasive, 77 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,680 they said, obviously, if something comes up in the class time, 78 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,519 when you know, a kid raises their hand and says, 79 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:25,920 you know, hey, what's the deal with this, then the 80 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,519 teacher can say something in response to that. But the 81 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,560 teacher is not to bust out gender queer and start 82 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,480 reading it to your third graders. Parents need to know 83 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:41,720 what it is that you are teaching their kids. And 84 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,680 I'm sorry if you feel like you know you're the 85 00:05:44,759 --> 00:05:49,120 professional and you should be trusted, I'm sorry, I really am. 86 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:54,399 I am sorry, but recognize where we are. Those days 87 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:59,120 are long gone for a variety of reasons. If I 88 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,680 ever got in trouble, my parents took the side of 89 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,040 the teacher immediately. Those days are gone. And I know, 90 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,680 like I have family, me a lot, most of my 91 00:06:08,759 --> 00:06:11,040 family members are teachers, and they say, like some of 92 00:06:11,079 --> 00:06:14,319 the parents are like they're the worst. They oh, no, 93 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,399 not my Johnny. He wouldn't do that, right, And they 94 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:20,560 fight back on any kind of report that's negative about 95 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,399 their kid, that their kid couldn't possibly do this bad thing, 96 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,720 you know, and teachers have to deal with that aspect 97 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:33,040 of it as well. But particularly regarding these books, the 98 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:36,959 only ones that are the only teachers or librarians that 99 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,199 are pushing this stuff are activists. They are the only 100 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,480 ones left because when the laws start getting passed that 101 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,839 say you can't do this sort of thing, and parents 102 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,319 are starting to protest, most teachers who are not activists, 103 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,680 they would recognize if they weren't already like not on 104 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,560 board with the program in the in first place, they 105 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,360 would have recognized and been like, yeah, this is this 106 00:07:02,439 --> 00:07:04,680 is not worth it. We got backlash coming, this is 107 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,439 not worth it, So I'm not going to do this. 108 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,319 You know, these books as part of the curriculum. I'm 109 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,360 not going to do it as part of my lesson plan. 110 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,560 The only ones that are still doing it are doing 111 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,720 it in defiance of the parental opposition and the legislative opposition. 112 00:07:21,079 --> 00:07:22,920 And that means that you are doing it for an 113 00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:28,480 ideological reason, which means you really want these kids who 114 00:07:28,519 --> 00:07:32,680 are not yours. You really want those kids to learn 115 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,720 about something because you think it's important that they know 116 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,600 this stuff, even though their parents are like, they're too 117 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:40,480 young for that. I don't want you teaching my kid that. 118 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,040 I don't need you teaching my kid about incest and 119 00:07:46,079 --> 00:07:49,040 rape and gay sex or any sex. You shouldn't be 120 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:52,879 talking about that with my third grader. So the Supreme 121 00:07:52,879 --> 00:07:57,879 Court is now weighing these weighing this case, right, these 122 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,199 these arguments that on the one hand, you have parents 123 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:08,240 that are claiming that this violates their faith. They don't 124 00:08:08,279 --> 00:08:10,639 want their kid being exposed to some of this stuff. 125 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:12,920 And on the other hand, you got the government saying 126 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:15,279 we have to be able to expose your kid to 127 00:08:15,399 --> 00:08:18,879 this stuff because otherwise we would have to do a 128 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:21,439 lot more paperwork and the lesson plans would be more 129 00:08:21,439 --> 00:08:25,920 difficult to draw. Up. It creates an administrative burden for us. 130 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,399 So sorry, we have to expose your kids to transgenderism. 131 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:35,840 The Supreme Court weighing these arguments in the most significant 132 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,600 religious appeal that justices have confronted in years, a case 133 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,639 that sweeps in the struggle over transgender rights, the ability 134 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,120 of parents to influence school curriculum, and questions about the 135 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,399 role of faith in the public sphere. This is one 136 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,200 of the things that the activist crowd on the left 137 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,559 does not either understand or they refuse to a knowledge, 138 00:09:00,919 --> 00:09:07,000 which is Christians are parents too, and in a government 139 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,840 run system, they too can affect the curriculum. You do 140 00:09:13,919 --> 00:09:16,960 not own the curriculum because you are a secularist or 141 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,720 an atheist or something that you don't own the curriculum. 142 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: Sorry, you don't. 143 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: It is a public school, and that means people in 144 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:28,399 the public with whom you disagree they get to have 145 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,440 an influence too. 146 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: That's the deal. 147 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: See, this isn't about, you know, public education, It's about 148 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,919 an education system that is controlled by the left. What 149 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:42,240 have I always said about the K twelve government model? 150 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,399 The problem is the model. People keep trying to fix 151 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,759 this thing. They keep trying to make tweaks and pass policies, 152 00:09:49,799 --> 00:09:52,960 and we'll do this and direct that. The problem is 153 00:09:53,399 --> 00:09:57,320 the model. And until the society recognizes that, I don't 154 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:58,240 think this gets any better. 155 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:00,759 Speaker 2: We're going to keep having these fights, all right. 156 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:02,639 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, you know I try 157 00:10:02,639 --> 00:10:04,399 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 158 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,519 I know you do too. And you've probably heard me 159 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,759 say get your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because 160 00:10:10,799 --> 00:10:13,480 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 161 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:16,840 been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 173 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,679 percent off any subscription I use the vantage plan to 174 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,120 get unlimited access to every feature your subscription then not 175 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:02,360 only helps my but it also supports ground news as 176 00:11:02,399 --> 00:11:06,159 they make the media landscape more transparent. Alrighty, So the 177 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:12,080 Supreme Court hearing this case today about parental rights and 178 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,519 whether a school district should be allowed to read sexually 179 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,759 graphic or inappropriate or age inappropriate material to your kid, 180 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,480 or should you be able to opt out in the 181 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:29,639 school district Montgomery Montgomery County public schools in Maryland. They're like, 182 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,320 we can't possibly manage this kind of an opt out system. 183 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:40,360 The parents who are suing are relying in part on 184 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,600 a nineteen seventy two president in which the Supreme Court 185 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,720 allowed Amish families to remove their children from school after 186 00:11:49,759 --> 00:11:54,039 the eighth grade. This was despite a law in Wisconsin 187 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,799 that required students to remain enrolled in school until they 188 00:11:57,799 --> 00:12:02,279 were sixteen. So the Amish were like, no, we take 189 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,399 our kids out, you don't get to keep them. And 190 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,600 it went to the US Supreme Court and the Supreme 191 00:12:08,639 --> 00:12:11,200 Court said, there are a lot it's their religious. 192 00:12:10,759 --> 00:12:11,759 Speaker 2: Faith, they can take them out. 193 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: There's also another component here, and I don't know if 194 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,919 it was addressed in the oral arguments. I did not 195 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,759 see it addressed in this CNN article which is about 196 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:28,360 the coercive nature of the K twelve setting, which was really, 197 00:12:29,399 --> 00:12:33,039 if I recall correctly, it was the lynchpin in the 198 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:38,120 arguments about saying the pledge before school starts, you know, 199 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,759 at the beginning of the school day, Like when I 200 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,480 was growing up, we would we'd all stand in the 201 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:46,480 you know, stand up at our desks, whether it was elementary, junior, high, 202 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,240 high school, whatever, everybody would stand, we would do the 203 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:56,360 pledge of allegiance. And then that was struck down. And 204 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,000 the reason why was because it was compelled speech. Because 205 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,879 the very nature of the K twelve government school setting 206 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,559 is coercive for the kids. Simply being in that environment 207 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:17,399 is a coercive factor. So one of the parents suing 208 00:13:17,879 --> 00:13:22,399 Billy Mojetz stresses that she is not asking the schools 209 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,159 to stop reading the material, only to allow parents with 210 00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:31,559 religious objections to opt their students out. So this isn't 211 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,480 even this should lay beaar the lie that oh, book bend, 212 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,759 book ben She's not even trying to ban the books. 213 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,759 She's not even saying, you know, put up a special 214 00:13:40,759 --> 00:13:43,279 section over there behind like a velvet rope or something 215 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,000 that my kid doesn't get access to without my permission. 216 00:13:46,159 --> 00:13:49,120 She's not even saying that, she's just saying, I want 217 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,240 to be able to take my kid out if you're 218 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:57,840 going to read this kind of material to them. Most states, 219 00:13:57,919 --> 00:14:02,480 including Maryland, already have law in place allowing parents to 220 00:14:02,519 --> 00:14:07,960 pull their children from sex education. Montgomery County schools originally 221 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,679 permitted opt outs, so they used to do this, but 222 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:13,639 then they said. 223 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,159 Speaker 2: It's just it's unworkable. 224 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: We just we cannot figure out how to not read 225 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,240 this stuff to your kid. Oh, it's just too it's 226 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:29,679 just unworkable. Some schools, for example, experienced unsustainably high numbers 227 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:35,039 of absent students, and so they took that as an 228 00:14:35,039 --> 00:14:37,919 excuse to force them to listen to the material, rather 229 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,519 than an indication that a lot of kids and parents 230 00:14:40,519 --> 00:14:41,039 didn't want. 231 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: To hear it. 232 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,799 Speaker 1: The school district argues that the need to shuttle students 233 00:14:49,039 --> 00:14:54,600 in and out of the classroom would moreover disrupt those classrooms. Okay, 234 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:57,840 so moving the kids around in the classrooms is going 235 00:14:57,879 --> 00:15:02,440 to be it's going to be so unworkable. It's so 236 00:15:02,639 --> 00:15:07,120 disruptive because you have so many kids that don't want 237 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,559 to participate, or their parents don't want them to participate, 238 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:16,279 or whatever. I'm going to offer a potential solution, don't 239 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:17,919 read the books. 240 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: How about that. 241 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:24,039 Speaker 1: If you're noticing these problems with this kind of thing, 242 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,120 then maybe you just don't do the kind. 243 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,799 Speaker 2: Of thing right. But we have to pete. See. 244 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: Aha, there you go. That's the proof that you are 245 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:41,159 an activist, not a teacher. No parent is opting their 246 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:46,000 kid out of the multiplication tables. They're opting their kids 247 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,840 out of this stuff, and you finding excuses to force 248 00:15:50,879 --> 00:15:53,519 the parents and their kids to hear the stuff that 249 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:56,559 they don't want to hear, to the point where it's 250 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,559 disrupting your classes because so many kids don't want to 251 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,679 participate paid in it. That should be the signal to 252 00:16:02,879 --> 00:16:06,440 you that you should not be doing this thing. But 253 00:16:06,559 --> 00:16:09,039 the fact that you are putting your own desire to 254 00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:15,559 indoctrinate i'm sorry to educate over what the parent wants, 255 00:16:17,159 --> 00:16:21,879 that makes you the activist. As part of its English curriculum, 256 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:26,200 Montgomery County approved a handful of books, or as I 257 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:30,720 like to say, they curated some books. 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So, as part of 304 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:07,079 its English curriculum, Montgomery County approved, or as I say, curated, 305 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,240 a handful of books in twenty twenty two that are 306 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,519 at issue in the case. Okay, so this is a 307 00:19:14,599 --> 00:19:21,000 new development. One is called Prince and Knight. It tells 308 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:25,200 the story of a prince, and the prince does not 309 00:19:25,319 --> 00:19:29,079 want to marry any of the princesses in his realm, 310 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:34,200 but he does fall in love with a knight, a 311 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,880 little dude on dude action. 312 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:36,279 Speaker 2: There. 313 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:43,079 Speaker 1: Another's called Born Ready. It tells the story of Penelope, 314 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,759 a character who likes skateboarding and wearing Beggy jeans, so 315 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:52,880 obviously Penelope is a dude. When Penelope tells his mother 316 00:19:53,519 --> 00:19:58,039 this is CNN, tells his mother that he is a boy, 317 00:19:58,519 --> 00:20:04,960 he is accepted. When Penelope's brother questions Penelope's gender identity, 318 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,160 their mother hugs both children and whispers. 319 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: Not everything needs to make sense. This is about love. 320 00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:16,559 Speaker 1: The school district told the court that the books are 321 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,240 used like any other book in curriculum, placed on the 322 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:26,519 shelves for students to find on their own, and also 323 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,359 available for teachers to incorporate into reading groups or read 324 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,160 alouds at their discussion for a discretion. Yeah, so we 325 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:36,119 just put them on the shelves. They were just over there, 326 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,880 and if a kid happens to stumble across the entire 327 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,680 wing of the LGBT plus variety of books, then they 328 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,079 will be able to find them. But it's totally self directed, unless, 329 00:20:48,079 --> 00:20:51,519 of course, like I'm choosing to read it to your kid. 330 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,839 What's the problem. The district and its allies argue that 331 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,880 simply exposing students to ideas can't possibly be a burden 332 00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:07,400 on religion. That well, if the religion teaches you that 333 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,000 you are made in the image and likeness of God 334 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,559 and you are his creation, your body is a temple, 335 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:21,279 right then yeah, that actually would run a foul of 336 00:21:21,319 --> 00:21:25,119 the religious concepts being promoted by the parents. And once again, 337 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,519 you're not their parents. You're the teacher. They are the parents. 338 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:38,000 They have control over that child. See an A goes 339 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,440 on to report that's because in order to establish such 340 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,759 a burden, the parents must demonstrate that they or their 341 00:21:43,839 --> 00:21:47,880 children were coerced to act or believe in a way 342 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,400 that's contrary to their religion. See me reading this book 343 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,119 to you telling your kid that everything that you're teaching 344 00:21:54,119 --> 00:22:01,319 them is not true. That's not coercion. I'm not coercing them. 345 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,240 But also, they can't leave the class, they can't opt out. 346 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,759 This is their argument. By the way, let me read 347 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:11,920 this before I lose track of it. Megan mccardal, she 348 00:22:12,279 --> 00:22:15,160 is I think she's with the Washington Post. Yes, a 349 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,920 columnist at the Washington Post, and she calls this quote 350 00:22:20,079 --> 00:22:25,480 puzzling from the ACLUS David Cole, who is defending Montgomery 351 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:29,160 County's refusal to let parents opt their young kids out 352 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,759 of reading these books. Here's what the acl you guys said, quote, 353 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,240 No one is obligated to send their kids to public school. 354 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:45,599 Speaker 2: Wait what really? 355 00:22:46,759 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that. I kind of feel 356 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,039 like that's not true. 357 00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:50,559 Speaker 2: Right. 358 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,079 Speaker 1: Don't parents get in trouble. There's a whole thing like 359 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,400 truancy about it. If your kid doesn't show up to school, Oh, 360 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,559 you can send them to private school, but you can't 361 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,480 have any of the tax money with the vouchers to 362 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:09,079 do that. See, we're giving you options here, he says. 363 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,880 But if the court rules that religious parents can micro 364 00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:15,559 manage the education of their children in public school, even 365 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,039 where the effect is to undermine the school's ability to 366 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,039 do the job it needs to do for all of 367 00:23:21,079 --> 00:23:24,319 its students, they will seriously undermine the ability of public 368 00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:25,240 schools to do the. 369 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: Work they need to do. 370 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: So again, the answer here seems to me to be 371 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:38,640 stop teaching these books, right, stop using the books? She asks, 372 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,039 what job requires every kid to read these books? Unless 373 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:45,880 that job is overriding the religious values of the parents 374 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:51,759 in favor of values selected by the school, That is correct. 375 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: That's their mission. 376 00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: Their mission is to indoctrinate on these cultural issues, because 377 00:24:00,319 --> 00:24:05,519 these are activists in the teaching core. Does the ACLU 378 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,319 now believe that enforcing community values on dissenters is the 379 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,680 job of public school and that dissenters from those values 380 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:17,400 should leave if they don't like it. I gotta say, 381 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,200 if the ACLU and Montgomery County win this battle, they 382 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,839 may lose the war because now I don't see any 383 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,920 argument against vouchers right. 384 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: No more. 385 00:24:28,839 --> 00:24:31,799 Speaker 1: If you win this argument, that no one is obligated 386 00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:33,799 to send their kids to public school, then I'd like 387 00:24:33,839 --> 00:24:35,720 my tax money back, please, thank you. And I'd like 388 00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:37,559 to send my kid to a school that's not teaching 389 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:42,559 them what you're demanding they learn. Because it's not like 390 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:44,160 a parent is saying I don't want my kid to 391 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,319 learn to read. They're saying my kid is not learning 392 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:50,680 to read because you're focused on all of this other crap. 393 00:24:54,799 --> 00:24:57,119 Schools are Oh, hang on a second, let me back up. 394 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,400 Reading about LGBTQ plus Q characters in a book the 395 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,039 school's allies say does neither. It doesn't coerce kids or 396 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:09,880 parents to act or believe in any kind of way. 397 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:15,240 But again, as I mentioned earlier, the very setting, the 398 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:19,160 atmosphere of K twelve government schools is coercive by nature. 399 00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:23,759 They ring bells to tell you to walk. They punish 400 00:25:23,839 --> 00:25:28,640 you if you don't do things or do things. Schools 401 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,480 are charged with educating the entire population, and to do 402 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:35,640 that effectively, they can't carve up the curriculum according to 403 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:41,119 each parent's religious beliefs, said Jason walta deputy general counsel 404 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,039 at the National Education Association the Teachers' Union, which is 405 00:25:44,079 --> 00:25:46,839 also on board with the activism here they filed a 406 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,559 brief along with other groups in support of the school district. 407 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,480 That is at the very heart of having a pluralistic democracy. 408 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,799 See once again, we want a public school model, a 409 00:25:56,839 --> 00:25:59,200 government controlled model, with us in charge of it. 410 00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:00,519 Speaker 2: The position. 411 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: We set the agenda, we set the curriculum. That's why 412 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,240 they don't want vouchers. They don't want your kid to 413 00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,279 have a choice to go to another school because then 414 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:16,160 they can't control the curriculum. They're trying to raise up 415 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,720 the next generation in the revolution. That's the point. And 416 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:23,319 they can dress it up in any other way they 417 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,160 want to, with language like you know, making better people, 418 00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:29,000 or this or that, whatever, it doesn't matter. You are 419 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:34,559 trying to impose these values into the next generations. And 420 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,119 we all know why you would do that. You can 421 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,359 do it in the benign form of today's you know 422 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,160 word or this month's character trait is trust or truth 423 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:47,920 or something right. 424 00:26:48,759 --> 00:26:49,799 Speaker 2: Just watch a CMS meeting. 425 00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,039 Speaker 1: They bring these kids down there and they recite their 426 00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:55,880 little essay on what the this month's character trait is. 427 00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: What's the point of that. 428 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,519 Speaker 1: It's it's to indoctor and a certain value set in 429 00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:05,599 the kids well, now, you, being a public school, you 430 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,839 have to take into account that if the values you 431 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,200 are imprinting on the next generation are actually shared by 432 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,559 the parents who are sending their kids there. 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Mail orders are accepted 450 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,599 to get all the details that createavideo dot Com emailspt 451 00:28:18,599 --> 00:28:21,000 at the petecalendershow dot com talking about the Supreme Court 452 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,960 oral arguments on the dirty books that Montgomery County, Maryland 453 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:31,440 really demand your kids here, some of the school's allies 454 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,720 are quoting heavily and perhaps counterintuitively, according to CNN from 455 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,480 a high profile decision from the Supreme Court three years ago, 456 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,480 which sided with a high school football coach who you 457 00:28:43,559 --> 00:28:46,680 may recall, lost his job when he offered prayers on 458 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,759 the fifty yard line. He offered prayers on the fifty 459 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:57,240 yard line extracurricular activity, not coerced. Didn't tell people they 460 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,359 had to go pray. He just went to go pray. 461 00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:01,920 And other kids who wanted, the players, coaches who wanted 462 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,519 to pray with him, they all went out there and 463 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:05,759 prayed with him, and he got fired for it. In 464 00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:10,319 that case, the Court's six conservatives lined up to reinstate 465 00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:14,039 the coach, who became widely known as the praying coach. 466 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,119 The twenty twenty two opinion has a lot to say 467 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,640 about what counts for religious coercion and what does not. 468 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,440 Neil Gorsch had written at the time, quote, learning how 469 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,200 to tolerate speech or prayer of all kinds is part 470 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,519 of learning how to live in a pluralistic society. Of course, 471 00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:37,680 some will take offense to certain forms of speech or 472 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,400 prayer they are sure to encounter, But offense does not 473 00:29:41,599 --> 00:29:46,200 equate to coercion. See, I would submit there is a 474 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,839 difference between a teacher doing it as a class exercise 475 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,720 versus a coach after a game who goes out and 476 00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:58,200 prays and welcomes anybody to join him. Like, those are 477 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,039 different situations. You're not getting cut from the team if 478 00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:07,400 you don't go out and pray with the coach, Terry 479 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,559 Shilling wrote at The Daily Wire. Shilling is a parental 480 00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:16,839 rights advocate and president of the American Principles Project. Terry 481 00:30:16,839 --> 00:30:19,839 Shilling wrote parents are the primary educators of their children 482 00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:23,079 and that vocation does not stop when kids begin to 483 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:27,119 attend school. The Board of Education added story books that 484 00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:31,240 introduce gender ideology and sexuality to children. By the way, 485 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:34,279 this wokeism. It is a religion. It has all the 486 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:38,759 hallmarks of a religion. Okay, so I would submit it 487 00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:44,759 is the same as reading the Bible. These storybooks are 488 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,000 they were exposing these kids as young as three and 489 00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:51,079 four years old. These storybooks are transparently part of an 490 00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:57,400 activist push to introduce children to same sex relationships, transgender ideology, 491 00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:05,880 and LGBTQ vocabulary at a startlingly young age. Another book 492 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:11,720 in the curriculum, My Rainbow. That's about a transgender identifying 493 00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:16,039 boy's desire to have long hair to fit in with 494 00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:19,839 the cisgender girls. So a boy wants to grow his 495 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,200 hair out so he looks like a girl and fits 496 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,279 in with the girls. Jacob's Room to Choose that's about 497 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:31,319 a cross dressing boy whose school accommodates him by abolishing 498 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:38,880 gendered bathrooms. Another one focuses on complex adult topics of 499 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:43,720 sexuality and gender identity. Called Love Violet focuses on a 500 00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:50,240 same sex relationship between elementary school classmates. Pride Puppy instructs 501 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,200 readers to identify leather under leather underwear, a lip ring, 502 00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,960 an intersexs flag, and a drag king in its illustrations. 503 00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:08,720 These are cartoons, right, designed to familiarize children with the concepts. 504 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:16,000 That's the point. There is no other point. What are 505 00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:20,079 your words? That's another book that one encourages kids to 506 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:29,319 change their pronouns. Another one called Intersection allies that one's 507 00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:33,359 got a forward by critical race theorist and activists Kimberly Crenshaw. 508 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,160 The storybooks are examples of radical propaganda written by progressive 509 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,200 activists to shape the hearts and minds of the next generation. 510 00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:50,200 I need a quick clarification here. What phase are we in. 511 00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,759 Are we in the phase of it's not happening, or 512 00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:56,200 are we in the phase that it's happening but it's 513 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,400 so rare. Or are we in the phase of, Okay, 514 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,599 it is happen but here's why that's a good thing. 515 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,000 I've lost track what phase we're in on this. I 516 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:06,839 kind of feel like we're bouncing around a little bit. 517 00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:11,519 Shilling goes on to say when public schools add storybooks 518 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,319 that teach gender ideology as truth, the state has violated 519 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:19,440 the right of parents to raise their children in their 520 00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:24,079 religious tradition, along with teaching them the corresponding religious beliefs 521 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:28,559 about gender, human sexuality, and the meaning of marriage. Right, 522 00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:32,079 if you're going to tell a four year old that 523 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:38,559 they can be the opposite sex, then you should also 524 00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:43,480 tell the kid that most people do not believe that, 525 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:48,799 and that science says you actually cannot be the opposite sex. 526 00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:52,680 You should also, like, if you want to talk about 527 00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:58,640 gender identity, transgenderism issues, if you want to teach this subject, 528 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,359 approach this subject with the students, then you, as an educator, 529 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:09,519 must provide the entire debate. You have to provide them. 530 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:15,199 Dare I say both sides? You have to otherwise that's 531 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:15,880 not education. 532 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 2: Well, they get enough of that at home. 533 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: You don't know that. You don't know that, and you 534 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,119 say you don't know that. That's why you have to 535 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,440 teach all this stuff. That's your excuse for teaching all 536 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,159 this stuff. It's your excuse for keeping all of the 537 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,000 transitioning social transitioning secret from the parents. Is because you 538 00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,559 don't know. This is what you guys say. You don't 539 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:41,400 know if parents at home are going to support it 540 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,840 or not. So we're going to do it in the school, 541 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,880 so this way we can counteract whatever's happening at home 542 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,960 because you don't know. So now you can't say that 543 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,679 they're going to get this training at home, they're going 544 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,440 to get this other side at home, because you don't 545 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:00,320 know that. All I ask for is a single standard. Right, 546 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:04,039 that's all I'm asking for. All Right, that'll do it 547 00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:06,679 for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I 548 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,840 could not do the show without your support and the 549 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,920 support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so 550 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,079 if you'd like, please support them too and tell them 551 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,079 you heard it here. 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