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Our guest today is Israel Ellis, Middle East expert, father
of an IDF soldier and author of a most compelling book,
The Wake Up Call Global Ghad and the Rise of
Anti Semitism in a world Old gone mad, absolutely mad.
No one can attest to that fact more than our
guest on this edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. Welcome
Israel Ellas.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Matt, and thank you for having
me today.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a pleasure you have gone through the gauntlet
personally with your own family, and I know a lot
of family members and friends obviously connected to life before
October seventh, twenty twenty three, and life after. Things were precarious,
certainly in Israel and for Jews around the world. Before
October seventh. I've got a whole lot worse after that day.
Let's begin there and the ramifications of what we have
seen since the horrible terrorist attacks by Hamas, the brutal,
inhumanely inhumane attacks, and the people who have rallied to
Hamasa's side in all of this over the last year
and a half or so.
Speaker 2: I think it's like the book says, it's the byeline
of the book, a World's gone mad. But mad has
has a couple of meanings. So mad is sort of
this irrational response that kind of was a tsunami of
of support for these animals who basically just brutalized and
murdered and terrible things. We saw last week what happened
with the bebus babies and what came out of that,
brutally killing those those two beautiful babies. So and then
the mad part of it is the world goes mad
because it's like, what are you guys doing out there?
How how low can humanity go that you're marching in
the streets, and and you're marching in the streets supporting
these terrorists by calling them resistance fighters. This is where
the world goes mad. But the other meaning of mad.
In my book, it's capitalized for a reason of mad.
Political science theorists would know that the last seventy five
years of foreign diplomacy has been based on mad between
enemy states right between the East and the West, which
stands for mutually assured destruction, and mutually assured destruction works
as a military strategy when both sides value life. The
challenge that we're dealing with over here is that the
lovers of life are dealing with the lovers of death.
These guys, the jihadist, embrace death. And this is what
I'm trying to explain what global gihad is. I'm trying
to explain that global jihad is a movement. It's a
cult that is global. It is not just about Israel.
It's in the backyard of America. And the Jihadis are
the action, are the activity? Are the cult is members?
And what are they embracing. They're saying that they're going
to spread this radicalized version of Islam, what I call
the corruption of Koran, of the Quran, and they're going
to spread it at any cost. And it doesn't matter
who gets in the way, Jews, Christians, Muslims, any person
in the street can get mowed down in order for
these guys to make a statement, and they do so
with terror and with fear and with intimidation, and so
that that's what mad comes from. But to answer your
question kind of, you know what happened after October seventh, everywhere, campuses, streets, everywhere.
Why all of a sudden this explosion, Well it was
like October seventh lit a fuse, But the powder keg's
been building. The Association Defense League attracts a four hundred
percent jump in US anti Semitic incidents post October seventh.
Globally it's worth, yeah, globally it's worth. London saw a
one three hundred and fifty thirteen and fifty percent rise
and hate crimes against Jews for the UK police. And
I was there, Matt. I was in London about a
month after the attack, and I'll never forget. On November seventh,
and I know the date, there was this group of
people with Palestinian flags chanting death to America, Death to
Israel from the River to the Sea, which is a
go to mantra of Theirs, which really is really about
genocide of the Jewish people. And they're marching towards me
and I'm just panicked. And what did I do. I
took out my camera and I start taking pictures of them.
This is right on Oxford Street in downtown London. And
the guy comes up to me, one of the guys.
He says, you take give me your camera. I said, look,
give me, give you my camera, and he said he
starts hitting me with his umbrella, and I just stood
my ground and I said, listen, friend, and I'm going
to call you friend because we could be friends, because
we're living in a western country. You've been benefiting from
Western society. Everything you've got, the mortgage you pay, the
job you have, the opportunities in life, your son, which
was by his side, all of everything you've got. Your
life is benefiting from Western society. We could be friends,
but yet you choose to be my enemy in the
worst possible way. And believe me, if you didn't want
people watching you on camera, you shouldn't be doing what
you're doing. So I turned to him and I said,
but that's all going to go away if you touch
me again, and his wife started crying and he walked
away from the shameless. The shameless idiot walked away from
the situation.
Speaker 1: That's what I Yeah, that's what I was going to
ask you, Israel. How can you be friends with someone
who a first and foremost is beating you about the
head with his umbrella. But bigger than that, he's carrying
a flag and marching for a position that says he
wants to wipe out you and your people, and as
you said, the American people and anybody that gets in
the way of their twisted religion.
Speaker 2: You got to read You got to read my book
because I am the I got to tell you I'm
an idealist. I was an idealist growing up. I'm a humanist.
I want to believe that we can all we can
all live together when we have prosperity and we have
goodness that this earth gives us. And the way I
grew up benefiting from all that privilege of the goodness
of what this life can give, I really believe we
can all live together. But I agree it's a little perplexing,
and I feel like I've been betrayed. And I feel that,
and that's part of where the book comes from. It
comes from my heart, and it comes from this place
of betrayal because of this life that I've led in
disillusionment and I've look at I'm a political scientists by
academic background. I studied I'm a specialist in Middle East studies.
I worked with Palestinian people. I've worked with Israelis. I've
worked with the what we call the Arab Israeli conflict,
which I don't believe exists. I'd like to rather call
it the Israel or the world Jihadis conflict that's going
on right now. But what we have is we have
a toxic mix of radical rhetoric, leftist apologia, and social
media amplifying the lies and the Hamas massacre got the cheers,
not the condemnation, from way too many people. And it's
made me realize. It's made me wake up and I
wrote the book wake Up Call because of that betrayal,
that deep betrayal. I felt from humanity that Wow, this
is real, this is happening. This is coming into our backyards.
They are allowed to march in our streets. What buses
insanity is that to have the people en camped and
Columbia University campus intimidating people openly in Toronto at a
mall in Toronto called the in Center. Police were deployed
to a shopping mall and the protesters were there, and
one protester, mast Hoodlum went right up to a police
offer and said, I'm going to take you six feet
under man. And I'm thinking, what has the lawlessness of
anarchy has our world come to? We got to wake up.
We got to wake up because this is only going
to get worse. And so I wrote the book.
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Speaker 1: Well, everything you laid out is an absolute existential threat.
It's an existential threat to a nation that was built
upon the backs of so many victims, so many heroes,
so many victims Israel, that nation is under constant existential
threat people of Israel. And as you mentioned, this goes
much much farther. You get into all of this in
your book. But I guess the question is how did
we get here? And how is this sustainable? Particularly, as
I think you expertly noted, you have nations and peoples
in this world that still have an abiding fear and
respect of death, death to their families, death to their nations.
And then you have individuals who, because of their their
twisted faith, they're twisted ideologies, they have no respect for that,
they don't care anything about that. How do you deal
with that effectively? How do we deal with that effectively?
Speaker 2: So I think that you've asked a question that has
two parts to it. You've asked, how did we get here?
And how do we deal with it?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? That is absolutely correct? Because we can't
we can't figure out how we fix this thing, if
there is any if it can indeed be fixed, how
do we make it better? Unless we know how we
got here.
Speaker 2: When I wrote the wake Up Call, I made seven observations,
and I call them observation is because I can't give
you the answers because it's so intense and complex of
the interrelational issues that are going on that have brought
this story forward. And I wrote The wake Up Call
as a story so that people could really plainly read
it and understand the issues that are at hand over here.
And I made seven observations about how we got to
October seventh, and they're multiple different conversations inside of those observations.
But I'm going to tell you that primarily what jumps
out of me right now and what I want to
talk about is sort of the ideological manipulation of the
liberal left. If this goes back, This did not happen
in a vacuum. This is going back seventy five years now, right,
So just real brief history, the East and the West,
they get into this thing, then you end up with
sort of the McCarthyism era that you know, you got
reds under the beds, and then what happens is that
you've got this civil liberties movement. And I bought into that.
I agree with that, Hey, you know, we can't we
can't be you know, paranoid and hauling people off because
accusing everyone of being communists, right, And that's kind of
what happened in that sort of ideological ideological shift around
the sixties, and then it sort of grew into this
sort of liberal movement that carried us into the seventies,
eighties and the nineties, right, and it just got into
this it just got started to get crazy, right, So
it got into this woke type of culture where we
ended up creating, you know, things like acronyms to like
dei for example, and then we ended up in this
cancel culture and it just kind of went so and
I say this in my book that I got a look,
you know, I got a look to the right to
see the left coming. And and what happened is is
that the Arabs, and specifically the Islamic regime of Iran,
and they got support from the Arab nations dates that
supported them. They saw this, they saw this disruption in
this division happening within America, within Western society, and so
what they did is they started funding the liberal left.
And it was, you know, kind of ironic that it
was Columbia University in twenty twelve, upon rationalizing the gift
they had received from Katar and literally the tens of
millions of dollars and for and these countries were buying
seats at universities, and they emphatically stated, this will not
affect the policies and the education of the university. Well,
we all know that went right, and we saw them
at these three university female presidents got up there in
front of in front of a congressional inquiry and said, no,
Jews don't feel unsafe. Nothing should be making Jewish students
unsafe on our campus. And know we see nothing wrong
with this. Well, we know they've all they're all gone now,
okay for various reasons, including finding that one of them
was plagiarism. But they've all embarrassed themselves and shamed their
own the very institutions that we hold as the elite,
elite universities of our of our education, and this all
has to stop. A gain back to how this happened
is that I believe that this radical global jihad movement
actually started to own the liberal left. And I think
that you know what's really interesting is that these liberals
don't even understand who they are themselves. It really amazes
me when I see feminists get up and call hamas
resistance fighters who brutalized and raped women. Yes, and they
call them resistance fighters. I call that cognitive dissonance. By
the way, it's a big dissonance. That's what's happened. So
that's how we got there. We got there through this,
you know, through this thing where where where? And then
and then we we got this through division, through this
division that was going on. Now Iran is and I
want to go back to ran for a second. I'm
jumping around a little bit, but trust me, I'm going
to get to where you need to go around the
puppapmaster here. One hundred million dollars flowing yearly to Hamas
and Hezbala, according to the US State Department estimates. Right,
and the funding and what are they doing. They're funding
rockets that are ragning on Israel. And do they hate Israel? No,
they hate democracy. They're yelling death to America and they're
not shy about it either. Iran's IRGC brags about arming
proxies to wipe out the Zionis entity. And then they
create this thing in nineteen forty eight, around nineteen fifty,
they call this thing called UNRA. Right, UNA is the
United Nations Release Work Association. It's a one point two
billion actually, it is a nearly two billion dollar annual
machine perpetuing what I call the non refugee status of
the Palestinian paid people. Seventy percent of gas population is
still considered refugees seventy five years later. And and and
how they became refugees, that's a whole other story. But
the fact is is that Yuenra, which is supported by
the UN, is a cover up that has enabled Hamas,
that has that has Hamas, that whose employees are proven
to be Hamas operatives, terrorists who have You're talking about
big business and terrorism over here, and this ENRA is
continued to get funded by by by countries all over
the place. It continues to get funded, and it really
is a direct tool of terrorism. And it just boggles
my mind how the money continues to flow to UNRA
even though they've already shown us what they've done, that
that organization is the biggest scam of all time. And
aside from the UN being a big scam, that organization
is the biggest scam. Should be shut down immediately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's subsidizing terrorism. We know that really, and
they've done that for years. So I guess to my
second point, My second question is, and this is. I
know it's a multi part answer. I know it's quite complicated,
and we're not going to get to solve the world's problems,
the Middle East problems and the problem with terrorism in
one podcast for sure. That said, I think one of
the areas that we're trying to fix the problem in
is to stop giving money to these awful organizations. And
that's what you're seeing from the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: Is that.
Speaker 1: A good move ultimately in your estimation, at least a
path forward?
Speaker 2: Sure, you got to cut off the funding. I mean, like,
let's go back to Biden's administration. Okay, not to you know,
they fundled. They released six billion dollars to ran Via Katar,
Hamas's banker, and they basically were paying off for this
idea of diplomacy. Right, this is what their version of
diplomacy was. This was the way through the bank, so
usaid to Gaza top three hundred million dollars alone in
twenty twenty three. Right, this is this is just before,
this is just leading up to in October seventh, and
this is what's crazy, Matt. I got to tell you
for all your listeners that listen to this, and you
can read it in my book, because it's factual, it's
well cited, it's well researched. Three hundred million dollars if
your tax dollars went to Hamas, went to build tunnels,
went to bring in those arms, went to exactly what
is going on right now. I don't believe that anyone
wanted that to happen. As American citizens. You didn't want.
As Canadians, we didn't want to, as anybody our people
didn't want. But this was their diplomacy. This was them
trying to buy peace and prosperity with money. Absolutely cut
off the money, immediately, cut it off. Today Trump has
already done that, and quite rightly so.
Speaker 1: And so we have the left. We have the left
though Israel in this country and now galvanizing elsewhere and
standing up protesting cutting off money to fund terrorist activities.
That's effectively what the Democrats in America are doing.
Speaker 2: I call it real simple, it's called foreign policy fraud.
And like I say, terrorism is big business, and there's
a lot going on in the background that you and
I and you know there is a way above our
pay grade, so to speak. But the fact is is that, yeah,
it's irony and its best I'll tell you, irony. So,
my son Matt is serving on a highway, a stretch
of land inside of Gaza, strip that is used to
bring in humanitarian aid, because of course, all of these
organizations are shouting, we need humanitarian aid. There are people
starving in Gaza. It's a show over there. Here's my language.
And so my son is a soldier with the IDF
guarding the highway that brings that brings humanitarian aid into Gaza.
And why is he guardian because that very humanitarian aid
is tipped off to Hamas operatives who then attack the
convoys and take the goods for themselves to rebuild themselves,
to feed their army. And by the way, if you've
looked at any of the hostage release situations, those guys. Look,
those those guys, those Hamas mass men with their green
berets parading hostages. The most despicable thing I've ever seen,
the most terrible, terrible to humanities, the humanizing situation that
we're dealing with. They look really well fed.
Speaker 1: They do, and of course they're they're there. They're extremely
brave in their masks as well, aren't they.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And and and here's the irony. Okay, the
irony is this. I'm Canadian, right, and our government I
pay taxes, and I pay a lot of toxes, and
I pay taxes to the Canadian government, and the Canadian
government is taking that money and giving it over to Yunra,
who's then providing goods to the Hamas, who can then
be strong enough who can now attack my son. And
so an effect, I'm paying my government that they can
send money so that they can give it to an
organization who wants to kill my boy. I mean, that
is the dissonance of irony at its best. And that's
what's and that's kind of what we.
Speaker 1: End to it.
Speaker 2: Now where do we go from here? Right? And and
sort of how did this? What took place after October
seventh was terrible. It was this tsunami of anti Semitism everywhere.
And it didn't just happen like slowly. It happened immediately,
which tells me that it was planned in advance. Much
of what had happened had taken more than a couple
of years to build. This wasn't something that just happened overnight.
Israel's defenses failed. They didn't expect sophisticated armaments and drones
and hand gliders coming in. They knew about tunnels, they
had built a two billion dollar wall around Gaza to
protect themselves from that. But they did not expect five
to six thousand well trained, military grade terrorists, each of
them carrying a bag of goods for eight days, because
they expected to be going into central Israel and fighting,
and they never expected to come back. This was a
complete Kamakazi suicide mission. Where did they get all that from?
How did they get the training, how did they get
all this equipment? Who gave it to them? Who enabled them?
This is a big part of the observations that I make.
And so while we were trading, while we're being diplomatic,
and why are we're giving money to these people for
humanitarian reasons, we were trading our souls, We were trading
our morality for this prosperity, this diplomacy that prior governments
had thought, Oh, we're going to sit down, We're going
to negotiate with Iran. You don't negotiate with Iran. Iran
is the master of the of the lovers of death.
They're the ones who are funding all this, They're the
ones who are creating proxies. When when we had that
terrible incident happened in New Orleans on January first. That
didn't just happen on its own by a lone wolf.
That was that ultimately came from the syllabus of hate
in the from Iran of preaching this radical type of
jihadis Islam that is now in the backyard of America.
Speaker 1: So Israel, you're Israel, You're saying that that placing hundreds
of millions of dollars on crates, hundreds of millions of
dollars of cash on crates for Iran was was It
was a bad idea the Obama administration, a bad idea
that of course continued into the the Biden administration and
all of that. I mean, there have been some wrong
headed policies in this country on both sides of the
political spectrum, certainly, But man, you want to talk about
policies that were an absolute disregard of national security in
the United States of America, That's what That's what we're
dealing with. Our guest today is Israel Ellis, Middle East expert,
father of an IDF soldier and author of The Wake
Up Call, Global Jihad and the Rise of Anti Seminism,
Semitism in a world gone mad, and this is you know,
this is something that obviously impacts the world. We talk
about it in foreign policy and world politics and geopolitics.
This is something that's very very personal to you. You have,
as you mentioned, a son served in IDF and things.
Let's just call it what it is. The front line
is not Israel, and it's not only Israel in Gaza.
The front line has come to your family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you know, it's been a really tough sixteen
months or so since October seventh, we got the message
that we didn't want to and no parent wants to hear,
and that was you know, hey, you're not going to
hear from me for a while. There's been an attack
in Israel and I've got to do what I was
put here to do. And as we started to uncover
what was happening, and I talk about the story of
my book, and I talk about the people that I've
interviewed and sort of everything that happened that day, Yeah,
that was that was very difficult for us to hear.
But but it just doesn't stop there because you know,
thankfully my son has been discharged. He's a reservist in
in the id F. And along with many many other
wonderful men and women who serve that country.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: They're the they're the frontline of defense for for for America,
for the world right. If Israel falls, the rest of
the world falls to these jiaba, And this is what
people need to wake up to. They need to understand
what's going on. That's kind of the impetus for the
book and what I've written here. But you know, I
was telling you Matt offline just before we started that
they just don't they just doubled down. That's the one
thing about terrorists. You know, the West couldn't fathom Humus
pulling off a nine to eleven scale attack with twelve
hundred brutally murdered and two hundred and fifty people kidnapped.
I think we know all about it because, you know,
we we think that these are just militants, These are
just a Jihadis army there there. You know, what do
they know? How are they how are they going to
come up against Israel's army, in America's army. But the
fact is that they've we you know, we've spent decades
in the West downplaying Iran's proxies despite the billions of
dollars in rockets that have been fired. And this has
all been a smoke screen, smoke screen for these guys
to go ahead and take advantage. And what do they do, right,
They're only remember that their only goal, this is not
These are not people who are out there to enslave.
They're not out there to subjugate. They're not out there
to conquer land and take it over for economic purposes,
whatever the motivation might be to do. So They're there
to kill. That's it. They are there for the purpose
of genocide is their goal. That's it, bottom line. And
when you try to go ahead and negotiate with the
lovers of death using the tactics of the lover of life,
you are going to fail because they are using exactly
that against us. They are using our love for life.
They are using our love for the freedom of speech
against us so that they can come into our cities,
they can come and march in our streets, and they
can go ahead and participate in an anarchy of llowlessness,
laughing at us. And so they double down. And this
week there was a protest. There was a local protest
in and actually in Toronto. There was one New York
and these protesters, these people who are benefiting from America,
who are benefiting from the good life that they've had,
what do they do, these useless idiots. They bring stuffed
animals that fear Bebus was photoed with when he was
kidnapped brutally from his home in his pajamas on the
day of October seventh and brought into gaza. And that
boy was strangled, was strangled with someone's hands. Some gazin
strangled this boy and killed him and killed the baby,
his baby brother, and killed the mother. And what do
these people do. They double down, They come to these protests, taunting,
taunting the families and taunting decent people. They taunt decent
people with these stuffed animals. You know, it's sick, It's sick. Frankel.
So Frankel said it best. And and I'm referring to
the Holocaust survivor and psychiatrists and author Victor Frankel, and
and he said it really, really, really well. He said
that what we're dealing with is we're dealing with a
struggle between the decent and the indecent. That is the struggle.
That's what this is about. And this is what we're
dealing with here, Matt. We're dealing with people who are decent,
people like ourselves, like hopefully and in hard working people
who want to make America great and who just want
to you know, support their families, who want just good
things and love life. And we're dealing with indecent people
right inside of our midst and the police don't have
the legislative abilities to go ahead and to charge these
people with hate. And there is a line that has
been crossed. The line is the insight incitement of hatred,
the infusion of global jihad and the and the and
the radicalization of jihadis. And we need laws in place
in order to stop that because that is what has
brought us to this point, and that is what continues
to bring us further down that path. It is the
syllabus of hate. It is in our textbooks. It is
what people kids are being taught. What what this this
idea of this victimizing these people in you know, in Gaza,
reversing the playbook. In Canada, there's something called a p R.
It's a policy of the Toronto District school Board. It's
called anti Palestinian. What is our stand for? Anti anti
Palestinian violence, and and and and and it's it's terrible.
It's it's reversing the playbook of what happened in the Holocaust,
comparing israel Zionism to Nazism. Is what's on these banners,
as the as the as the hogsages are released and
walked in front of these banners and given little grab bags.
The whole idea of turning around the narrative. We have
to see through that.
Speaker 1: And good Lord, we have we have seen this in
this country, in this country and where you live for
a long time. It's it's the rolling stone sympathy for
the devil coming home to roost. And the lines that
says it at all is every cop is a criminal
and all the sinners are saints. I mean, it's exactly
what Frankel was talking about, this war between the decent
and the indecent. And unfortunately now we have our school
systems in the West indoctrinating indecency.
Speaker 2: There is a search it's not just anti Semitism, and
it just doesn't affect the Jews. It affects everybody because
it starts with the Jews, but it does not end
with the Jews. Matt, and this is what this is
the most important. This is the most important thing that
that should be hable. A takeaway I told you before
the show that I discovered yesterday that someone brought to
my attention a new website that is hunting down IDF soldiers.
They're hunting down soldiers that have that have Canadians that
have become lone soldiers. We call them loan soldiers in Israel,
and there's a website identifying eighty five loan soldiers. But
they're doing it all over the world, and this stuff
is allowed to happen. We governments are allowing this to happen.
And then there are governments who you would think that
should be sympathetic to you know what happened in October seventh,
but they're not Ireland, Spain, Colombia, South Africa. I mean,
it's a world gone mad. Where do you where? Where
does Brazil get off by vilifying Israel's right as a
sovereign country to protect itself. But when you notice is
that all of these countries are run by sort of
left leaning or political structures, and so there seems to
be this thread across all of this that is tied
directly to the Globevigeia and what's going on there. And
I do this all in my book. In my book,
I write sort of the story of what happened after,
you know, leading up to October seventh, what happened during
October seventh, and I talk about it, and I track
the stories of a number of different people who are
affected by October seventh, and I weave through how the
how this terrible event has affected our lives and comes
right to the doorstep of America.
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about the countries that you mentioned left leaning lead countries
and the idea that you know that Israel somehow does
not have the right to defend itself to go after
its enemies, particularly after a September eleventh style plus attack
on its country, and right now the United States of
America is dealing with that as well. The left continues
to insist that America does not have a right to
have borders, does not have a right to defend itself,
and So that gets back to the original question, how
do you deal with that when you have what seems
to be so many people committed to a mad, insane
philosophy or viewpoint on life and nation.
Speaker 2: I think it's a good question. It's a difficult question.
I think it comes down to this realization we in
America and Canada and West society, we are not going
to use violence as a way to fight violence or
to fight this threat, because then we're lowering ourselves down
to their level. We need to use policy. We need
to have the agency to create legislation so that our
police can do what they need to do unimpeded and
without worry about repercussion. That's number one. Okay, So we
got to call hate for what it is. We got
to call inciting hate for what it is. And we
need to create legislation to give the tools to our
lawmakers so that they can go ahead and they can
arrest and they can convict and they can deal with it.
We got to take hard lines. Anyone who comes here
for as a student or comes here on a visa
caught trying to incite hatred, that's it. Visa Cancil, go home,
You're gone. You don't deserve this, you're out of school.
Stuff like that needs to happen. But the other thing,
and this is really really important, is we've got something
that we've created over the last twenty five years, and
that is the syllabus of hate. We've done it to ourselves.
We've allowed the syllabus of hate to metastasize inside of
our universities, inside of our school system and create a
narrative of the left where people are so manipulated into
the cult, into the occult of this jihad that they
actually are convinced and have been brainwashed to believe that,
you know, right is bad. You know this type of
thing is bad. But these guys are resistance fighters. They're good.
And the crazy thing is you've got like communities like
LBGKE two right, You've got the gay community going marching
down street saying, you know, queers for Palaestine. I gotta
love that. That's my best saw because you know, wow,
I mean, America is amazing, Right West is amazing. I
don't care, God bless anybody for their orientation's ability, practice
your religion, live your life, create the type of family
you want. I'm a big believer in that. But you
know here you are. The dissonance is crazy. You're your
marching on the street going queers for Palestine. Well, you'd
last what three seconds in silence like ramaala I.
Speaker 1: Talk about talk about talk about loving thy enemy, I
mean right, that takes you to the extreme.
Speaker 4: So there's a there's a there's an extreme, sort of bizarre,
perverse syllabus of hatred that is ingrained deeply within our
systems and we've allowed it.
Speaker 2: We've got emams coming to mosques that are preaching death
to America. Inside America, We've got we've got terrible things
going on that do not reflect our culture, do not
reflect our values, and do not reflect the morality that
we have fought so hard, that our ancestors have fought
so hard for. So we need to change that syllabus
of hate. We need to actually look at the educational
system at the syllabus and see what is public funding teaching.
How are we using our money to go ahead and
to teach these things to our children who are growing
up and who've got this bizarre sense of entitlement that
they are going to go ahead and they're going to
burn their house down just to prove their point or
that they feel.
Speaker 5: This such this lack of purpose, they feel this lack
of purpose to the sense that they're willing to sort
of eat their nose to spite their face.
Speaker 2: That that that we got to stop that. So I believe,
I believe, you know, I don't believe violence is the
answer whatsoever. But I believe that we need the agency
to provide the tools to our lawmakers and to our
and to our justice system to understand what is hate,
what is inciting hate, and what is radicalization of jihadism
and where does that lead us to? And that's for sure.
You don't get people that decide to run their car
over a whole bunch of people just because they're having
a bad day. That comes from an ingrained, an ingrained
Radicazite radicalization that we allowed to infest itself through our Internet,
through online forums, and through like I say, for the
pulpits of where people are perversing and manipulating religious ideas
and values to go ahead and to manipulate people to
do these things. And then and then further to that
right and further to that, we've got to walk what
our young people are are are are learning and I'm
not talking about taking over the narrative. But I am
talking about the fact that we're you know, in in
in you know, in school systems. We don't We got
to be careful about what it is that we're allowing
in terms of victimizing the Palestinians and the gods of
people by calling the victims, they are not victims, they're murderers.
And so I think it's the syllabus of tolerance. It's
the syllabus. We've got to get rid of the syllabus
of hate out there. Man, we are the most luckiest,
most grateful. I'm not going to say grateful. I'm going
to say we are the most privileged people in the world.
When I go around, I travel all over the world.
And I'm in the Philippines because we have an office
over there, we have a business over there. I'm in Thailand,
I'm in China. I've worked in China for a long time.
We see how people live. I see these worlds in Africa.
I travel extensively throughout the Middle East, and I see
the quality of life of people. And I go to America.
I go there and sure, you know, there are things
that we can all say, the homelessness in America and
things like that is out of control. I mean. But
the privilege and the good fortune that we have of
what we get from living in America by playing by
the rules and by being lovers of life, and by
supporting our industries and supporting our lifestyle and loving life
is incredible. For these people to come in and to
try to destroy that, and we're allowing them to destroy
it right in our backyard. Those encampments that we saw
on those campuses, there just isn't any There's just nothing
you can tell me that rationalizes that. Yeah, and that's
what we got to fix. We got to fix it.
And it starts from the bottom. It starts from the
rungs on the bottom of the educational system.
Speaker 1: I think a good place to start is to condemn
the people who celebrate the taking of babies lives like
we saw with the Bebus family. I mean, to celebrate
that is a cancer in society that has to be
excised or it will kill us.
Speaker 2: You know, Matt, as I was, you know, I've got
I've got a granddaughter, have been blessed. And as I
snuggle her close to my chest and I find her
little sleepy fingers grabbing at the inside of my shirt
and soothing her beautiful cheeks as she stares at me
with her you know, unbelievable dark eyes. I cry and
shudder at the sickening thought of what would I do
if she was with them as she was taken away.
If my daughter, if my wife, if my sister, if
their mother was dragged away from the comfort and security
of her home. And I think about that, what would
I do? How could I live knowing that they were
being terrorized, dragged through the streets of gays, kept in
cages by civilians, starved and who could only imagine the
worst autrocities that were committed to these bodies. And I
see them, we see them the way that they display them.
This is indecent, This is evil, and we have to
tolerate this. And that's exactly what is sort of the
ba the bizarre insanity here, and we should not be
tolerating this, But we have to use our intolerance through
the legal means necessary of the system of the justice system.
And it's the justice system that needs to be revamped
so that the stuff, so that these things are not celebrated.
You're absolutely right. It is amoral, it is It is
the worst thing where people can come to a protest
and to feel the to feel the license to hate
and the way they do, and that's and that's really
it's really a battle between the decent and the indecent,
and we need, as decent people, we need to build
that we need to win that battle. And that's only
going to happen with the agency of incorporating within our
communities a definition of of the of what is right
and what is wrong as part of our social contract.
And we have to read that's social contract. It extends
to Jews, it extends to Christians, it extends to Muslims,
it extends to all law abiding citizens of our country.
And to go ahead and say it doesn't apply to
one particular subset is the downfall of our society. And
so if we want to get over this and we
want to move forward, we got a lot of work
to do in educating people on I guess you've got
to just educate people. But what's right and what's wrong,
it's what we all learned in kindergarten. And I think
that's what we're coming to right now. We're coming to
a place where we need to educate our citizens and
the children, and we got to make sure and we
got to call things like you said, we got to
call it what it is. And you get people who
are going ahead and showing up and celebrating murderers and
celebrating there's got to be consequences to that. There has
to be consequences to every person. Do you know that
there is four hundred and fifty and I'm just going
to talk about in Toronto, Canadas. I know you guys
are us stide, but we're not that different, even though
there seems to be some issues going on lately, we're
really not different. Okay, four hundred and fifty charges were
laid of people who are vandalists, vandalized and who did
unthinkable things in protesting in our streets. Here, it's just
like in the US. No different than in what happened
in Columbia, No different than what happened in Ohio, what
happened in other states. But here I can tell you
the numbers because I know them. Four hundred and fifty
people arrested. Do you know how many convicted?
Speaker 5: Zero?
Speaker 2: Do you know how many convicted in Columbia?
Speaker 4: Zero?
Speaker 2: In New York?
Speaker 1: Zero?
Speaker 2: Do you know why zero means nothing? It's what our
magistrates hold the value of what these people did against
our social contract is less than any value you could
think about it. That is zero, and that is what
we have to change. If we're going to become, if
we're going to fight the indecency, and we're going to
become back to our roots of decency, then that cannot
be zero. We cannot be zero.
Speaker 1: Well, you certainly cannot aid and a bet the people
who have brought us zero as in zero meaning to life.
And that's where we stand in this existential crisis, not
just in Israel, the United States and the rest of
the world. Thanks to my guest today, Israel elis Middle
East expert, father of an IDF soldier, an author of
The wake Up Call, Global Jihad and the Rise of
Anti Semitism in a World Gone Mad. Thanks so much
for joining us, is Reel.
Speaker 2: My pleasure, My pleasure. If I can just tell you
very important the book is available on Amazon. I would
encourage people to please go and read the book, to
get educated by what it has to say, and to
please review it on Amazon. And we didn't discuss this,
but there's a lot of corporate punitive discriminatory action going on.
Amazon has put a freeze on any marketing funds towards
anything related to October seventh, and there's just absolutely no
reason for it. And we got to fight that, and
we got to fight that by getting books about October seventh,
particularly this book and and and to get the ratings
up there and to show Amazon that people are reading
the book, and so we need people to buy it,
to read it, and to review it. I think that
your reader, your listenership is going to really enjoy the
wake up call, not from a sense of enjoyment, but
really from a sense of of of education. I think
that it's a very easy read, and I'd like to
see it's not just it's not for Jewish people. It's
really meant for, you know, a very broad broad spectrum
of the world who could really benefit from the information
and the wake up call. So thank you so much
for having me, and thank you for waking up. Well.
Speaker 1: If any entity news outlet knows what it means to
be basically silenced in the media world, it is the Federalist.
We have been fighting for a long time to bring
the messages, important messages to our readers and to expanded readers.
So we certainly understand the issue with Amazon. You've been
listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm
Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be
back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom
and anxious for the fray