1 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,359 Speaker 1: And we are back with another edition of the Federalist 2 00:00:21,399 --> 00:00:24,760 Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the 3 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,359 Federalist and your experienced Shirpa on today's quest for Knowledge. 4 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:32,960 As always, you can email the show at radio at 5 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:37,119 the Federalist dot com, follow us on x at FDR LST, 6 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,479 make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcast, and 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,719 of course to the premium version of our website as well. 8 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,399 Our guest today is Israel Ellis, Middle East expert, father 9 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,880 of an IDF soldier and author of a most compelling book, 10 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,119 The Wake Up Call Global Ghad and the Rise of 11 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:03,159 Anti Semitism in a world Old gone mad, absolutely mad. 12 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,439 No one can attest to that fact more than our 13 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,640 guest on this edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. Welcome 14 00:01:09,799 --> 00:01:10,879 Israel Ellas. 15 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Matt, and thank you for having 16 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:14,760 me today. 17 00:01:15,159 --> 00:01:19,719 Speaker 1: Well, it's a pleasure you have gone through the gauntlet 18 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,680 personally with your own family, and I know a lot 19 00:01:23,719 --> 00:01:31,400 of family members and friends obviously connected to life before 20 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:38,599 October seventh, twenty twenty three, and life after. Things were precarious, 21 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,640 certainly in Israel and for Jews around the world. Before 22 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,560 October seventh. I've got a whole lot worse after that day. 23 00:01:47,359 --> 00:01:52,400 Let's begin there and the ramifications of what we have 24 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:58,120 seen since the horrible terrorist attacks by Hamas, the brutal, 25 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,079 inhumanely inhumane attacks, and the people who have rallied to 26 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,000 Hamasa's side in all of this over the last year 27 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:08,800 and a half or so. 28 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:13,039 Speaker 2: I think it's like the book says, it's the byeline 29 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,840 of the book, a World's gone mad. But mad has 30 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 has a couple of meanings. So mad is sort of 31 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,120 this irrational response that kind of was a tsunami of 32 00:02:23,479 --> 00:02:30,360 of support for these animals who basically just brutalized and 33 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,960 murdered and terrible things. We saw last week what happened 34 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,479 with the bebus babies and what came out of that, 35 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:44,639 brutally killing those those two beautiful babies. So and then 36 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,560 the mad part of it is the world goes mad 37 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:49,319 because it's like, what are you guys doing out there? 38 00:02:49,479 --> 00:02:53,360 How how low can humanity go that you're marching in 39 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,360 the streets, and and you're marching in the streets supporting 40 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,960 these terrorists by calling them resistance fighters. This is where 41 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,319 the world goes mad. But the other meaning of mad. 42 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:08,000 In my book, it's capitalized for a reason of mad. 43 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,719 Political science theorists would know that the last seventy five 44 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,000 years of foreign diplomacy has been based on mad between 45 00:03:16,479 --> 00:03:19,240 enemy states right between the East and the West, which 46 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,439 stands for mutually assured destruction, and mutually assured destruction works 47 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:29,080 as a military strategy when both sides value life. The 48 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:32,360 challenge that we're dealing with over here is that the 49 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,400 lovers of life are dealing with the lovers of death. 50 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:40,560 These guys, the jihadist, embrace death. And this is what 51 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,599 I'm trying to explain what global gihad is. I'm trying 52 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:47,479 to explain that global jihad is a movement. It's a 53 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:52,319 cult that is global. It is not just about Israel. 54 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,199 It's in the backyard of America. And the Jihadis are 55 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,759 the action, are the activity? Are the cult is members? 56 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,360 And what are they embracing. They're saying that they're going 57 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:09,159 to spread this radicalized version of Islam, what I call 58 00:04:09,199 --> 00:04:13,280 the corruption of Koran, of the Quran, and they're going 59 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,399 to spread it at any cost. And it doesn't matter 60 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:21,680 who gets in the way, Jews, Christians, Muslims, any person 61 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 in the street can get mowed down in order for 62 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,800 these guys to make a statement, and they do so 63 00:04:26,959 --> 00:04:32,000 with terror and with fear and with intimidation, and so 64 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:34,800 that that's what mad comes from. But to answer your 65 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:40,480 question kind of, you know what happened after October seventh, everywhere, campuses, streets, everywhere. 66 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,920 Why all of a sudden this explosion, Well it was 67 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,279 like October seventh lit a fuse, But the powder keg's 68 00:04:48,319 --> 00:04:53,720 been building. The Association Defense League attracts a four hundred 69 00:04:53,759 --> 00:04:58,560 percent jump in US anti Semitic incidents post October seventh. 70 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,040 Globally it's worth, yeah, globally it's worth. London saw a 71 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,319 one three hundred and fifty thirteen and fifty percent rise 72 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:12,000 and hate crimes against Jews for the UK police. And 73 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:15,560 I was there, Matt. I was in London about a 74 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,360 month after the attack, and I'll never forget. On November seventh, 75 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:23,560 and I know the date, there was this group of 76 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,639 people with Palestinian flags chanting death to America, Death to 77 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,839 Israel from the River to the Sea, which is a 78 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:36,079 go to mantra of Theirs, which really is really about 79 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,000 genocide of the Jewish people. And they're marching towards me 80 00:05:40,399 --> 00:05:42,319 and I'm just panicked. And what did I do. I 81 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:45,160 took out my camera and I start taking pictures of them. 82 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,240 This is right on Oxford Street in downtown London. And 83 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:51,480 the guy comes up to me, one of the guys. 84 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,480 He says, you take give me your camera. I said, look, 85 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:56,160 give me, give you my camera, and he said he 86 00:05:56,199 --> 00:05:59,959 starts hitting me with his umbrella, and I just stood 87 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,279 my ground and I said, listen, friend, and I'm going 88 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,959 to call you friend because we could be friends, because 89 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:10,920 we're living in a western country. You've been benefiting from 90 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:14,920 Western society. Everything you've got, the mortgage you pay, the 91 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,160 job you have, the opportunities in life, your son, which 92 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,879 was by his side, all of everything you've got. Your 93 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,519 life is benefiting from Western society. We could be friends, 94 00:06:24,519 --> 00:06:27,360 but yet you choose to be my enemy in the 95 00:06:27,399 --> 00:06:31,399 worst possible way. And believe me, if you didn't want 96 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:34,639 people watching you on camera, you shouldn't be doing what 97 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,600 you're doing. So I turned to him and I said, 98 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,800 but that's all going to go away if you touch 99 00:06:38,879 --> 00:06:41,879 me again, and his wife started crying and he walked 100 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:46,759 away from the shameless. The shameless idiot walked away from 101 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,399 the situation. 102 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,959 Speaker 1: That's what I Yeah, that's what I was going to 103 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:52,759 ask you, Israel. How can you be friends with someone 104 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,279 who a first and foremost is beating you about the 105 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,879 head with his umbrella. But bigger than that, he's carrying 106 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,720 a flag and marching for a position that says he 107 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,879 wants to wipe out you and your people, and as 108 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,839 you said, the American people and anybody that gets in 109 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:14,199 the way of their twisted religion. 110 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: You got to read You got to read my book 111 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,759 because I am the I got to tell you I'm 112 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:24,759 an idealist. I was an idealist growing up. I'm a humanist. 113 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:27,240 I want to believe that we can all we can 114 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,839 all live together when we have prosperity and we have 115 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:35,199 goodness that this earth gives us. And the way I 116 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,439 grew up benefiting from all that privilege of the goodness 117 00:07:40,519 --> 00:07:43,160 of what this life can give, I really believe we 118 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,240 can all live together. But I agree it's a little perplexing, 119 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,040 and I feel like I've been betrayed. And I feel that, 120 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:51,000 and that's part of where the book comes from. It 121 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,199 comes from my heart, and it comes from this place 122 00:07:53,199 --> 00:07:56,079 of betrayal because of this life that I've led in 123 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,360 disillusionment and I've look at I'm a political scientists by 124 00:08:01,519 --> 00:08:05,279 academic background. I studied I'm a specialist in Middle East studies. 125 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:10,079 I worked with Palestinian people. I've worked with Israelis. I've 126 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,240 worked with the what we call the Arab Israeli conflict, 127 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:16,480 which I don't believe exists. I'd like to rather call 128 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:19,800 it the Israel or the world Jihadis conflict that's going 129 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,639 on right now. But what we have is we have 130 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:29,279 a toxic mix of radical rhetoric, leftist apologia, and social 131 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:35,399 media amplifying the lies and the Hamas massacre got the cheers, 132 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:39,840 not the condemnation, from way too many people. And it's 133 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,000 made me realize. It's made me wake up and I 134 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,360 wrote the book wake Up Call because of that betrayal, 135 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:51,080 that deep betrayal. I felt from humanity that Wow, this 136 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:56,399 is real, this is happening. This is coming into our backyards. 137 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,960 They are allowed to march in our streets. What buses 138 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:05,279 insanity is that to have the people en camped and 139 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:12,440 Columbia University campus intimidating people openly in Toronto at a 140 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,440 mall in Toronto called the in Center. Police were deployed 141 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,000 to a shopping mall and the protesters were there, and 142 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,639 one protester, mast Hoodlum went right up to a police 143 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,879 offer and said, I'm going to take you six feet 144 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,080 under man. And I'm thinking, what has the lawlessness of 145 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:35,600 anarchy has our world come to? We got to wake up. 146 00:09:36,279 --> 00:09:38,559 We got to wake up because this is only going 147 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,840 to get worse. And so I wrote the book. 148 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,519 Speaker 3: Should we officially shut down the Postal Service? The Watchdout 149 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,519 on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every day Chris 150 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:53,320 helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and 151 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,919 how it affects your wallet. The Postal Service had a 152 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,000 monopoly in the United States and it still couldn't make 153 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,480 money after the email revolution. They didn't change a thing. 154 00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:04,840 Should it be bought out by a big tech firm 155 00:10:04,919 --> 00:10:07,200 like Amazon. Whether it's happening in DC or down on 156 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:08,879 Wall Street, it's affecting you financially. 157 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: Be informed. 158 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 159 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,639 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 160 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: Well, everything you laid out is an absolute existential threat. 161 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:27,360 It's an existential threat to a nation that was built 162 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,519 upon the backs of so many victims, so many heroes, 163 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:39,440 so many victims Israel, that nation is under constant existential 164 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:43,200 threat people of Israel. And as you mentioned, this goes 165 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:47,840 much much farther. You get into all of this in 166 00:10:47,879 --> 00:10:52,279 your book. But I guess the question is how did 167 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,480 we get here? And how is this sustainable? Particularly, as 168 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:06,159 I think you expertly noted, you have nations and peoples 169 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:11,039 in this world that still have an abiding fear and 170 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:14,799 respect of death, death to their families, death to their nations. 171 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:19,519 And then you have individuals who, because of their their 172 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:24,519 twisted faith, they're twisted ideologies, they have no respect for that, 173 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,360 they don't care anything about that. How do you deal 174 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,039 with that effectively? How do we deal with that effectively? 175 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: So I think that you've asked a question that has 176 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,440 two parts to it. You've asked, how did we get here? 177 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,080 And how do we deal with it? 178 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: Is that correct? That is absolutely correct? Because we can't 179 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,159 we can't figure out how we fix this thing, if 180 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,000 there is any if it can indeed be fixed, how 181 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,480 do we make it better? Unless we know how we 182 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,080 got here. 183 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:58,759 Speaker 2: When I wrote the wake Up Call, I made seven observations, 184 00:11:58,759 --> 00:12:01,480 and I call them observation is because I can't give 185 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,519 you the answers because it's so intense and complex of 186 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,759 the interrelational issues that are going on that have brought 187 00:12:08,799 --> 00:12:11,159 this story forward. And I wrote The wake Up Call 188 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,240 as a story so that people could really plainly read 189 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:17,840 it and understand the issues that are at hand over here. 190 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,519 And I made seven observations about how we got to 191 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:28,159 October seventh, and they're multiple different conversations inside of those observations. 192 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:32,600 But I'm going to tell you that primarily what jumps 193 00:12:32,639 --> 00:12:34,440 out of me right now and what I want to 194 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,679 talk about is sort of the ideological manipulation of the 195 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,799 liberal left. If this goes back, This did not happen 196 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,080 in a vacuum. This is going back seventy five years now, right, 197 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,600 So just real brief history, the East and the West, 198 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,600 they get into this thing, then you end up with 199 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,799 sort of the McCarthyism era that you know, you got 200 00:12:54,879 --> 00:12:57,720 reds under the beds, and then what happens is that 201 00:12:57,879 --> 00:13:01,200 you've got this civil liberties movement. And I bought into that. 202 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,200 I agree with that, Hey, you know, we can't we 203 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:08,480 can't be you know, paranoid and hauling people off because 204 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,360 accusing everyone of being communists, right, And that's kind of 205 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,879 what happened in that sort of ideological ideological shift around 206 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:18,799 the sixties, and then it sort of grew into this 207 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:22,440 sort of liberal movement that carried us into the seventies, 208 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,720 eighties and the nineties, right, and it just got into 209 00:13:25,759 --> 00:13:28,519 this it just got started to get crazy, right, So 210 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,679 it got into this woke type of culture where we 211 00:13:31,799 --> 00:13:35,679 ended up creating, you know, things like acronyms to like 212 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,639 dei for example, and then we ended up in this 213 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:41,519 cancel culture and it just kind of went so and 214 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:44,840 I say this in my book that I got a look, 215 00:13:45,039 --> 00:13:46,679 you know, I got a look to the right to 216 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,799 see the left coming. And and what happened is is 217 00:13:50,799 --> 00:13:56,480 that the Arabs, and specifically the Islamic regime of Iran, 218 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,399 and they got support from the Arab nations dates that 219 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,200 supported them. They saw this, they saw this disruption in 220 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,399 this division happening within America, within Western society, and so 221 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,399 what they did is they started funding the liberal left. 222 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:15,039 And it was, you know, kind of ironic that it 223 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,240 was Columbia University in twenty twelve, upon rationalizing the gift 224 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:22,360 they had received from Katar and literally the tens of 225 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,759 millions of dollars and for and these countries were buying 226 00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:31,480 seats at universities, and they emphatically stated, this will not 227 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,399 affect the policies and the education of the university. Well, 228 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,480 we all know that went right, and we saw them 229 00:14:38,519 --> 00:14:43,120 at these three university female presidents got up there in 230 00:14:43,159 --> 00:14:47,480 front of in front of a congressional inquiry and said, no, 231 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:52,240 Jews don't feel unsafe. Nothing should be making Jewish students 232 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:54,720 unsafe on our campus. And know we see nothing wrong 233 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:57,159 with this. Well, we know they've all they're all gone now, 234 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,840 okay for various reasons, including finding that one of them 235 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,279 was plagiarism. But they've all embarrassed themselves and shamed their 236 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,519 own the very institutions that we hold as the elite, 237 00:15:07,919 --> 00:15:11,919 elite universities of our of our education, and this all 238 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:14,080 has to stop. A gain back to how this happened 239 00:15:14,399 --> 00:15:18,600 is that I believe that this radical global jihad movement 240 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:23,480 actually started to own the liberal left. And I think 241 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:26,399 that you know what's really interesting is that these liberals 242 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:31,159 don't even understand who they are themselves. It really amazes 243 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,600 me when I see feminists get up and call hamas 244 00:15:36,759 --> 00:15:41,879 resistance fighters who brutalized and raped women. Yes, and they 245 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:46,000 call them resistance fighters. I call that cognitive dissonance. By 246 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:49,039 the way, it's a big dissonance. That's what's happened. So 247 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,759 that's how we got there. We got there through this, 248 00:15:51,159 --> 00:15:54,279 you know, through this thing where where where? And then 249 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,759 and then we we got this through division, through this 250 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,480 division that was going on. Now Iran is and I 251 00:16:00,519 --> 00:16:02,120 want to go back to ran for a second. I'm 252 00:16:02,159 --> 00:16:03,799 jumping around a little bit, but trust me, I'm going 253 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,799 to get to where you need to go around the 254 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:09,759 puppapmaster here. One hundred million dollars flowing yearly to Hamas 255 00:16:09,799 --> 00:16:13,440 and Hezbala, according to the US State Department estimates. Right, 256 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,159 and the funding and what are they doing. They're funding 257 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,080 rockets that are ragning on Israel. And do they hate Israel? No, 258 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:22,159 they hate democracy. They're yelling death to America and they're 259 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,159 not shy about it either. Iran's IRGC brags about arming 260 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,519 proxies to wipe out the Zionis entity. And then they 261 00:16:31,559 --> 00:16:34,960 create this thing in nineteen forty eight, around nineteen fifty, 262 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,759 they call this thing called UNRA. Right, UNA is the 263 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:43,080 United Nations Release Work Association. It's a one point two 264 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,759 billion actually, it is a nearly two billion dollar annual 265 00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:51,759 machine perpetuing what I call the non refugee status of 266 00:16:51,799 --> 00:16:56,080 the Palestinian paid people. Seventy percent of gas population is 267 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,200 still considered refugees seventy five years later. And and and 268 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,679 how they became refugees, that's a whole other story. But 269 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:06,359 the fact is is that Yuenra, which is supported by 270 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:10,400 the UN, is a cover up that has enabled Hamas, 271 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:15,279 that has that has Hamas, that whose employees are proven 272 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:19,920 to be Hamas operatives, terrorists who have You're talking about 273 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,559 big business and terrorism over here, and this ENRA is 274 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,960 continued to get funded by by by countries all over 275 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,400 the place. It continues to get funded, and it really 276 00:17:32,519 --> 00:17:37,319 is a direct tool of terrorism. And it just boggles 277 00:17:37,319 --> 00:17:40,400 my mind how the money continues to flow to UNRA 278 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,079 even though they've already shown us what they've done, that 279 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:47,200 that organization is the biggest scam of all time. And 280 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,359 aside from the UN being a big scam, that organization 281 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,559 is the biggest scam. Should be shut down immediately. 282 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's subsidizing terrorism. We know that really, and 283 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,119 they've done that for years. So I guess to my 284 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,000 second point, My second question is, and this is. I 285 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:06,160 know it's a multi part answer. I know it's quite complicated, 286 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,559 and we're not going to get to solve the world's problems, 287 00:18:09,559 --> 00:18:12,720 the Middle East problems and the problem with terrorism in 288 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,279 one podcast for sure. That said, I think one of 289 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:20,799 the areas that we're trying to fix the problem in 290 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,960 is to stop giving money to these awful organizations. And 291 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,640 that's what you're seeing from the Trump administration. 292 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: Is that. 293 00:18:29,839 --> 00:18:33,759 Speaker 1: A good move ultimately in your estimation, at least a 294 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:34,519 path forward? 295 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,519 Speaker 2: Sure, you got to cut off the funding. I mean, like, 296 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,480 let's go back to Biden's administration. Okay, not to you know, 297 00:18:41,759 --> 00:18:45,880 they fundled. They released six billion dollars to ran Via Katar, 298 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:50,960 Hamas's banker, and they basically were paying off for this 299 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,400 idea of diplomacy. Right, this is what their version of 300 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,960 diplomacy was. This was the way through the bank, so 301 00:18:58,279 --> 00:19:02,680 usaid to Gaza top three hundred million dollars alone in 302 00:19:02,799 --> 00:19:07,039 twenty twenty three. Right, this is this is just before, 303 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:11,440 this is just leading up to in October seventh, and 304 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,440 this is what's crazy, Matt. I got to tell you 305 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,039 for all your listeners that listen to this, and you 306 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:17,920 can read it in my book, because it's factual, it's 307 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,680 well cited, it's well researched. Three hundred million dollars if 308 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,920 your tax dollars went to Hamas, went to build tunnels, 309 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,079 went to bring in those arms, went to exactly what 310 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,559 is going on right now. I don't believe that anyone 311 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:36,160 wanted that to happen. As American citizens. You didn't want. 312 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,480 As Canadians, we didn't want to, as anybody our people 313 00:19:39,519 --> 00:19:42,880 didn't want. But this was their diplomacy. This was them 314 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:48,400 trying to buy peace and prosperity with money. Absolutely cut 315 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:54,160 off the money, immediately, cut it off. Today Trump has 316 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,839 already done that, and quite rightly so. 317 00:19:57,279 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: And so we have the left. We have the left 318 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:04,599 though Israel in this country and now galvanizing elsewhere and 319 00:20:04,839 --> 00:20:11,880 standing up protesting cutting off money to fund terrorist activities. 320 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,880 That's effectively what the Democrats in America are doing. 321 00:20:15,319 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: I call it real simple, it's called foreign policy fraud. 322 00:20:19,319 --> 00:20:22,920 And like I say, terrorism is big business, and there's 323 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,880 a lot going on in the background that you and 324 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,559 I and you know there is a way above our 325 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:31,720 pay grade, so to speak. But the fact is is that, yeah, 326 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,200 it's irony and its best I'll tell you, irony. So, 327 00:20:36,319 --> 00:20:41,119 my son Matt is serving on a highway, a stretch 328 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,640 of land inside of Gaza, strip that is used to 329 00:20:44,759 --> 00:20:47,680 bring in humanitarian aid, because of course, all of these 330 00:20:47,759 --> 00:20:51,279 organizations are shouting, we need humanitarian aid. There are people 331 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,920 starving in Gaza. It's a show over there. Here's my language. 332 00:20:55,519 --> 00:20:58,799 And so my son is a soldier with the IDF 333 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:05,079 guarding the highway that brings that brings humanitarian aid into Gaza. 334 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,319 And why is he guardian because that very humanitarian aid 335 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:13,559 is tipped off to Hamas operatives who then attack the 336 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,839 convoys and take the goods for themselves to rebuild themselves, 337 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,119 to feed their army. And by the way, if you've 338 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,480 looked at any of the hostage release situations, those guys. Look, 339 00:21:23,839 --> 00:21:27,920 those those guys, those Hamas mass men with their green 340 00:21:28,039 --> 00:21:32,440 berets parading hostages. The most despicable thing I've ever seen, 341 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:37,359 the most terrible, terrible to humanities, the humanizing situation that 342 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,079 we're dealing with. They look really well fed. 343 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: They do, and of course they're they're there. They're extremely 344 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,279 brave in their masks as well, aren't they. 345 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And and and here's the irony. Okay, the 346 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:54,680 irony is this. I'm Canadian, right, and our government I 347 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,079 pay taxes, and I pay a lot of toxes, and 348 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,960 I pay taxes to the Canadian government, and the Canadian 349 00:22:00,079 --> 00:22:03,160 government is taking that money and giving it over to Yunra, 350 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,400 who's then providing goods to the Hamas, who can then 351 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:11,240 be strong enough who can now attack my son. And 352 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:14,440 so an effect, I'm paying my government that they can 353 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:16,319 send money so that they can give it to an 354 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,240 organization who wants to kill my boy. I mean, that 355 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,160 is the dissonance of irony at its best. And that's 356 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,680 what's and that's kind of what we. 357 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,039 Speaker 1: End to it. 358 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,839 Speaker 2: Now where do we go from here? Right? And and 359 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,680 sort of how did this? What took place after October 360 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,799 seventh was terrible. It was this tsunami of anti Semitism everywhere. 361 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:40,559 And it didn't just happen like slowly. It happened immediately, 362 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,960 which tells me that it was planned in advance. Much 363 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,519 of what had happened had taken more than a couple 364 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:49,799 of years to build. This wasn't something that just happened overnight. 365 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:56,200 Israel's defenses failed. They didn't expect sophisticated armaments and drones 366 00:22:56,599 --> 00:23:00,240 and hand gliders coming in. They knew about tunnels, they 367 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,559 had built a two billion dollar wall around Gaza to 368 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:07,920 protect themselves from that. But they did not expect five 369 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:15,279 to six thousand well trained, military grade terrorists, each of 370 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,400 them carrying a bag of goods for eight days, because 371 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:26,079 they expected to be going into central Israel and fighting, 372 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,599 and they never expected to come back. This was a 373 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,359 complete Kamakazi suicide mission. Where did they get all that from? 374 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,960 How did they get the training, how did they get 375 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,000 all this equipment? Who gave it to them? Who enabled them? 376 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,039 This is a big part of the observations that I make. 377 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:46,160 And so while we were trading, while we're being diplomatic, 378 00:23:46,519 --> 00:23:49,039 and why are we're giving money to these people for 379 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:55,880 humanitarian reasons, we were trading our souls, We were trading 380 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,920 our morality for this prosperity, this diplomacy that prior governments 381 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,519 had thought, Oh, we're going to sit down, We're going 382 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:06,400 to negotiate with Iran. You don't negotiate with Iran. Iran 383 00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:10,400 is the master of the of the lovers of death. 384 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,079 They're the ones who are funding all this, They're the 385 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:17,519 ones who are creating proxies. When when we had that 386 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,839 terrible incident happened in New Orleans on January first. That 387 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,480 didn't just happen on its own by a lone wolf. 388 00:24:23,839 --> 00:24:27,119 That was that ultimately came from the syllabus of hate 389 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,680 in the from Iran of preaching this radical type of 390 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:34,119 jihadis Islam that is now in the backyard of America. 391 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: So Israel, you're Israel, You're saying that that placing hundreds 392 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:46,160 of millions of dollars on crates, hundreds of millions of 393 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,359 dollars of cash on crates for Iran was was It 394 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,119 was a bad idea the Obama administration, a bad idea 395 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,000 that of course continued into the the Biden administration and 396 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,200 all of that. I mean, there have been some wrong 397 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,640 headed policies in this country on both sides of the 398 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,559 political spectrum, certainly, But man, you want to talk about 399 00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:15,559 policies that were an absolute disregard of national security in 400 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:18,839 the United States of America, That's what That's what we're 401 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:22,519 dealing with. Our guest today is Israel Ellis, Middle East expert, 402 00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:25,480 father of an IDF soldier and author of The Wake 403 00:25:25,559 --> 00:25:29,599 Up Call, Global Jihad and the Rise of Anti Seminism, 404 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,400 Semitism in a world gone mad, and this is you know, 405 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,880 this is something that obviously impacts the world. We talk 406 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,599 about it in foreign policy and world politics and geopolitics. 407 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,400 This is something that's very very personal to you. You have, 408 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:54,960 as you mentioned, a son served in IDF and things. 409 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,440 Let's just call it what it is. The front line 410 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:02,400 is not Israel, and it's not only Israel in Gaza. 411 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,400 The front line has come to your family. 412 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, where you know, it's been a really tough sixteen 413 00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:13,240 months or so since October seventh, we got the message 414 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:15,400 that we didn't want to and no parent wants to hear, 415 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,960 and that was you know, hey, you're not going to 416 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,640 hear from me for a while. There's been an attack 417 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,759 in Israel and I've got to do what I was 418 00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:26,279 put here to do. And as we started to uncover 419 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,240 what was happening, and I talk about the story of 420 00:26:28,319 --> 00:26:30,279 my book, and I talk about the people that I've 421 00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:34,240 interviewed and sort of everything that happened that day, Yeah, 422 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,279 that was that was very difficult for us to hear. 423 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,000 But but it just doesn't stop there because you know, 424 00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:42,559 thankfully my son has been discharged. He's a reservist in 425 00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:45,839 in the id F. And along with many many other 426 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,160 wonderful men and women who serve that country. 427 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: There. 428 00:26:49,759 --> 00:26:53,599 Speaker 2: They're the they're the frontline of defense for for for America, 429 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,279 for the world right. If Israel falls, the rest of 430 00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:00,599 the world falls to these jiaba, And this is what 431 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,480 people need to wake up to. They need to understand 432 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,359 what's going on. That's kind of the impetus for the 433 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,359 book and what I've written here. But you know, I 434 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,599 was telling you Matt offline just before we started that 435 00:27:10,839 --> 00:27:13,839 they just don't they just doubled down. That's the one 436 00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:18,039 thing about terrorists. You know, the West couldn't fathom Humus 437 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,400 pulling off a nine to eleven scale attack with twelve 438 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,839 hundred brutally murdered and two hundred and fifty people kidnapped. 439 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,279 I think we know all about it because, you know, 440 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,400 we we think that these are just militants, These are 441 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,079 just a Jihadis army there there. You know, what do 442 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,359 they know? How are they how are they going to 443 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,400 come up against Israel's army, in America's army. But the 444 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,880 fact is that they've we you know, we've spent decades 445 00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:49,119 in the West downplaying Iran's proxies despite the billions of 446 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,119 dollars in rockets that have been fired. And this has 447 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240 all been a smoke screen, smoke screen for these guys 448 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,880 to go ahead and take advantage. And what do they do, right, 449 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,559 They're only remember that their only goal, this is not 450 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:04,519 These are not people who are out there to enslave. 451 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,160 They're not out there to subjugate. They're not out there 452 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,880 to conquer land and take it over for economic purposes, 453 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:16,160 whatever the motivation might be to do. So They're there 454 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,799 to kill. That's it. They are there for the purpose 455 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,240 of genocide is their goal. That's it, bottom line. And 456 00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:28,240 when you try to go ahead and negotiate with the 457 00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:31,759 lovers of death using the tactics of the lover of life, 458 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,440 you are going to fail because they are using exactly 459 00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:39,279 that against us. They are using our love for life. 460 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,799 They are using our love for the freedom of speech 461 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,720 against us so that they can come into our cities, 462 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,720 they can come and march in our streets, and they 463 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,480 can go ahead and participate in an anarchy of llowlessness, 464 00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:55,640 laughing at us. And so they double down. And this 465 00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:59,279 week there was a protest. There was a local protest 466 00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,400 in and actually in Toronto. There was one New York 467 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,799 and these protesters, these people who are benefiting from America, 468 00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:09,119 who are benefiting from the good life that they've had, 469 00:29:09,559 --> 00:29:14,599 what do they do, these useless idiots. They bring stuffed 470 00:29:14,759 --> 00:29:18,359 animals that fear Bebus was photoed with when he was 471 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:23,000 kidnapped brutally from his home in his pajamas on the 472 00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:25,880 day of October seventh and brought into gaza. And that 473 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,720 boy was strangled, was strangled with someone's hands. Some gazin 474 00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:34,240 strangled this boy and killed him and killed the baby, 475 00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:37,039 his baby brother, and killed the mother. And what do 476 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:42,119 these people do. They double down, They come to these protests, taunting, 477 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:48,319 taunting the families and taunting decent people. They taunt decent 478 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:55,599 people with these stuffed animals. You know, it's sick, It's sick. Frankel. 479 00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:01,079 So Frankel said it best. And and I'm referring to 480 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:08,440 the Holocaust survivor and psychiatrists and author Victor Frankel, and 481 00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,119 and he said it really, really, really well. He said 482 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:14,400 that what we're dealing with is we're dealing with a 483 00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:20,039 struggle between the decent and the indecent. That is the struggle. 484 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,519 That's what this is about. And this is what we're 485 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:26,200 dealing with here, Matt. We're dealing with people who are decent, 486 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,079 people like ourselves, like hopefully and in hard working people 487 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,640 who want to make America great and who just want 488 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,119 to you know, support their families, who want just good 489 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,799 things and love life. And we're dealing with indecent people 490 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,640 right inside of our midst and the police don't have 491 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:50,799 the legislative abilities to go ahead and to charge these 492 00:30:50,839 --> 00:30:53,839 people with hate. And there is a line that has 493 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,200 been crossed. The line is the insight incitement of hatred, 494 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:02,039 the infusion of global jihad and the and the and 495 00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:06,839 the radicalization of jihadis. And we need laws in place 496 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:09,599 in order to stop that because that is what has 497 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,400 brought us to this point, and that is what continues 498 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,000 to bring us further down that path. It is the 499 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,799 syllabus of hate. It is in our textbooks. It is 500 00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:23,640 what people kids are being taught. What what this this 501 00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:30,240 idea of this victimizing these people in you know, in Gaza, 502 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,960 reversing the playbook. In Canada, there's something called a p R. 503 00:31:35,079 --> 00:31:38,200 It's a policy of the Toronto District school Board. It's 504 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,599 called anti Palestinian. What is our stand for? Anti anti 505 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,559 Palestinian violence, and and and and and it's it's terrible. 506 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,319 It's it's reversing the playbook of what happened in the Holocaust, 507 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:58,000 comparing israel Zionism to Nazism. Is what's on these banners, 508 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,400 as the as the as the hogsages are released and 509 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,839 walked in front of these banners and given little grab bags. 510 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,240 The whole idea of turning around the narrative. We have 511 00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:09,279 to see through that. 512 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,759 Speaker 1: And good Lord, we have we have seen this in 513 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:15,559 this country, in this country and where you live for 514 00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,519 a long time. It's it's the rolling stone sympathy for 515 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:23,839 the devil coming home to roost. And the lines that 516 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:26,920 says it at all is every cop is a criminal 517 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,160 and all the sinners are saints. I mean, it's exactly 518 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,119 what Frankel was talking about, this war between the decent 519 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:39,039 and the indecent. And unfortunately now we have our school 520 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,599 systems in the West indoctrinating indecency. 521 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: There is a search it's not just anti Semitism, and 522 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,319 it just doesn't affect the Jews. It affects everybody because 523 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,400 it starts with the Jews, but it does not end 524 00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:58,640 with the Jews. Matt, and this is what this is 525 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,000 the most important. This is the most important thing that 526 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,960 that should be hable. A takeaway I told you before 527 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,839 the show that I discovered yesterday that someone brought to 528 00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:11,480 my attention a new website that is hunting down IDF soldiers. 529 00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:16,359 They're hunting down soldiers that have that have Canadians that 530 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,599 have become lone soldiers. We call them loan soldiers in Israel, 531 00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:23,559 and there's a website identifying eighty five loan soldiers. But 532 00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:26,240 they're doing it all over the world, and this stuff 533 00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,839 is allowed to happen. We governments are allowing this to happen. 534 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,799 And then there are governments who you would think that 535 00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:36,480 should be sympathetic to you know what happened in October seventh, 536 00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:43,400 but they're not Ireland, Spain, Colombia, South Africa. I mean, 537 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,200 it's a world gone mad. Where do you where? Where 538 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,119 does Brazil get off by vilifying Israel's right as a 539 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,279 sovereign country to protect itself. But when you notice is 540 00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:56,720 that all of these countries are run by sort of 541 00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:01,160 left leaning or political structures, and so there seems to 542 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,319 be this thread across all of this that is tied 543 00:34:04,359 --> 00:34:07,359 directly to the Globevigeia and what's going on there. And 544 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,599 I do this all in my book. In my book, 545 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,480 I write sort of the story of what happened after, 546 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,039 you know, leading up to October seventh, what happened during 547 00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,480 October seventh, and I talk about it, and I track 548 00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:19,880 the stories of a number of different people who are 549 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,119 affected by October seventh, and I weave through how the 550 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,280 how this terrible event has affected our lives and comes 551 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:30,960 right to the doorstep of America. 552 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: Our sponsor today addresses a major concern identity theft. 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Well, you think 575 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,519 about the countries that you mentioned left leaning lead countries 576 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,679 and the idea that you know that Israel somehow does 577 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,519 not have the right to defend itself to go after 578 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,039 its enemies, particularly after a September eleventh style plus attack 579 00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:37,280 on its country, and right now the United States of 580 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:43,360 America is dealing with that as well. The left continues 581 00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,960 to insist that America does not have a right to 582 00:36:48,159 --> 00:36:51,559 have borders, does not have a right to defend itself, 583 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:55,800 and So that gets back to the original question, how 584 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,440 do you deal with that when you have what seems 585 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:04,400 to be so many people committed to a mad, insane 586 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,280 philosophy or viewpoint on life and nation. 587 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: I think it's a good question. It's a difficult question. 588 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,119 I think it comes down to this realization we in 589 00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:21,119 America and Canada and West society, we are not going 590 00:37:21,159 --> 00:37:23,599 to use violence as a way to fight violence or 591 00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,679 to fight this threat, because then we're lowering ourselves down 592 00:37:26,679 --> 00:37:30,480 to their level. We need to use policy. We need 593 00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:34,119 to have the agency to create legislation so that our 594 00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,920 police can do what they need to do unimpeded and 595 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,280 without worry about repercussion. That's number one. Okay, So we 596 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,119 got to call hate for what it is. We got 597 00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:44,440 to call inciting hate for what it is. And we 598 00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:47,760 need to create legislation to give the tools to our 599 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,199 lawmakers so that they can go ahead and they can 600 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,920 arrest and they can convict and they can deal with it. 601 00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:55,679 We got to take hard lines. Anyone who comes here 602 00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:59,519 for as a student or comes here on a visa 603 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,840 caught trying to incite hatred, that's it. Visa Cancil, go home, 604 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,119 You're gone. You don't deserve this, you're out of school. 605 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,320 Stuff like that needs to happen. But the other thing, 606 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,239 and this is really really important, is we've got something 607 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,719 that we've created over the last twenty five years, and 608 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,400 that is the syllabus of hate. We've done it to ourselves. 609 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:24,920 We've allowed the syllabus of hate to metastasize inside of 610 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,360 our universities, inside of our school system and create a 611 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,599 narrative of the left where people are so manipulated into 612 00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:37,840 the cult, into the occult of this jihad that they 613 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,320 actually are convinced and have been brainwashed to believe that, 614 00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:46,920 you know, right is bad. You know this type of 615 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,920 thing is bad. But these guys are resistance fighters. They're good. 616 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,599 And the crazy thing is you've got like communities like 617 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,199 LBGKE two right, You've got the gay community going marching 618 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,519 down street saying, you know, queers for Palaestine. I gotta 619 00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:03,480 love that. That's my best saw because you know, wow, 620 00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:07,000 I mean, America is amazing, Right West is amazing. I 621 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:10,920 don't care, God bless anybody for their orientation's ability, practice 622 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,840 your religion, live your life, create the type of family 623 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,480 you want. I'm a big believer in that. But you 624 00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:21,880 know here you are. The dissonance is crazy. You're your 625 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,880 marching on the street going queers for Palestine. Well, you'd 626 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,880 last what three seconds in silence like ramaala I. 627 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,199 Speaker 1: Talk about talk about talk about loving thy enemy, I 628 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,440 mean right, that takes you to the extreme. 629 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 4: So there's a there's a there's an extreme, sort of bizarre, 630 00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:46,440 perverse syllabus of hatred that is ingrained deeply within our 631 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,920 systems and we've allowed it. 632 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 2: We've got emams coming to mosques that are preaching death 633 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,960 to America. Inside America, We've got we've got terrible things 634 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,679 going on that do not reflect our culture, do not 635 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,840 reflect our values, and do not reflect the morality that 636 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,320 we have fought so hard, that our ancestors have fought 637 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,239 so hard for. So we need to change that syllabus 638 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,280 of hate. We need to actually look at the educational 639 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,800 system at the syllabus and see what is public funding teaching. 640 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,519 How are we using our money to go ahead and 641 00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:26,119 to teach these things to our children who are growing 642 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:31,719 up and who've got this bizarre sense of entitlement that 643 00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:33,719 they are going to go ahead and they're going to 644 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,159 burn their house down just to prove their point or 645 00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:38,119 that they feel. 646 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 5: This such this lack of purpose, they feel this lack 647 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,800 of purpose to the sense that they're willing to sort 648 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,039 of eat their nose to spite their face. 649 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,159 Speaker 2: That that that we got to stop that. So I believe, 650 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,559 I believe, you know, I don't believe violence is the 651 00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:57,920 answer whatsoever. But I believe that we need the agency 652 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,039 to provide the tools to our lawmakers and to our 653 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,360 and to our justice system to understand what is hate, 654 00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:11,280 what is inciting hate, and what is radicalization of jihadism 655 00:41:11,519 --> 00:41:14,079 and where does that lead us to? And that's for sure. 656 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,440 You don't get people that decide to run their car 657 00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:19,880 over a whole bunch of people just because they're having 658 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,760 a bad day. That comes from an ingrained, an ingrained 659 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,079 Radicazite radicalization that we allowed to infest itself through our Internet, 660 00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:32,719 through online forums, and through like I say, for the 661 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,440 pulpits of where people are perversing and manipulating religious ideas 662 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,159 and values to go ahead and to manipulate people to 663 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,880 do these things. And then and then further to that 664 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,360 right and further to that, we've got to walk what 665 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,960 our young people are are are are learning and I'm 666 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,840 not talking about taking over the narrative. But I am 667 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,519 talking about the fact that we're you know, in in 668 00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:59,920 in you know, in school systems. We don't We got 669 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:02,719 to be careful about what it is that we're allowing 670 00:42:03,639 --> 00:42:08,920 in terms of victimizing the Palestinians and the gods of 671 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,760 people by calling the victims, they are not victims, they're murderers. 672 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,599 And so I think it's the syllabus of tolerance. It's 673 00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:18,719 the syllabus. We've got to get rid of the syllabus 674 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,760 of hate out there. Man, we are the most luckiest, 675 00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,760 most grateful. I'm not going to say grateful. I'm going 676 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,719 to say we are the most privileged people in the world. 677 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,679 When I go around, I travel all over the world. 678 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,519 And I'm in the Philippines because we have an office 679 00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:37,400 over there, we have a business over there. I'm in Thailand, 680 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,679 I'm in China. I've worked in China for a long time. 681 00:42:39,679 --> 00:42:42,039 We see how people live. I see these worlds in Africa. 682 00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:46,199 I travel extensively throughout the Middle East, and I see 683 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,760 the quality of life of people. And I go to America. 684 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,400 I go there and sure, you know, there are things 685 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,840 that we can all say, the homelessness in America and 686 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,079 things like that is out of control. I mean. But 687 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,679 the privilege and the good fortune that we have of 688 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,480 what we get from living in America by playing by 689 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,599 the rules and by being lovers of life, and by 690 00:43:08,159 --> 00:43:14,559 supporting our industries and supporting our lifestyle and loving life 691 00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:17,800 is incredible. For these people to come in and to 692 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,639 try to destroy that, and we're allowing them to destroy 693 00:43:20,679 --> 00:43:23,559 it right in our backyard. Those encampments that we saw 694 00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:27,800 on those campuses, there just isn't any There's just nothing 695 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,000 you can tell me that rationalizes that. Yeah, and that's 696 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,079 what we got to fix. We got to fix it. 697 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,360 And it starts from the bottom. It starts from the 698 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,000 rungs on the bottom of the educational system. 699 00:43:38,679 --> 00:43:41,159 Speaker 1: I think a good place to start is to condemn 700 00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:46,000 the people who celebrate the taking of babies lives like 701 00:43:46,039 --> 00:43:51,039 we saw with the Bebus family. I mean, to celebrate 702 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:57,320 that is a cancer in society that has to be 703 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,119 excised or it will kill us. 704 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 2: You know, Matt, as I was, you know, I've got 705 00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:08,760 I've got a granddaughter, have been blessed. And as I 706 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,000 snuggle her close to my chest and I find her 707 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,719 little sleepy fingers grabbing at the inside of my shirt 708 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,159 and soothing her beautiful cheeks as she stares at me 709 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,239 with her you know, unbelievable dark eyes. I cry and 710 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,159 shudder at the sickening thought of what would I do 711 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,639 if she was with them as she was taken away. 712 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,239 If my daughter, if my wife, if my sister, if 713 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,639 their mother was dragged away from the comfort and security 714 00:44:31,679 --> 00:44:34,639 of her home. And I think about that, what would 715 00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,800 I do? How could I live knowing that they were 716 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,840 being terrorized, dragged through the streets of gays, kept in 717 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,599 cages by civilians, starved and who could only imagine the 718 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,599 worst autrocities that were committed to these bodies. And I 719 00:44:47,639 --> 00:44:51,559 see them, we see them the way that they display them. 720 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,480 This is indecent, This is evil, and we have to 721 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,719 tolerate this. And that's exactly what is sort of the 722 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,480 ba the bizarre insanity here, and we should not be 723 00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:08,840 tolerating this, But we have to use our intolerance through 724 00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:13,880 the legal means necessary of the system of the justice system. 725 00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:17,840 And it's the justice system that needs to be revamped 726 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,639 so that the stuff, so that these things are not celebrated. 727 00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:24,079 You're absolutely right. It is amoral, it is It is 728 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,079 the worst thing where people can come to a protest 729 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,360 and to feel the to feel the license to hate 730 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,440 and the way they do, and that's and that's really 731 00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:40,400 it's really a battle between the decent and the indecent, 732 00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:43,199 and we need, as decent people, we need to build 733 00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:45,280 that we need to win that battle. And that's only 734 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,920 going to happen with the agency of incorporating within our 735 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:55,679 communities a definition of of the of what is right 736 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,559 and what is wrong as part of our social contract. 737 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,519 And we have to read that's social contract. It extends 738 00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:04,920 to Jews, it extends to Christians, it extends to Muslims, 739 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,199 it extends to all law abiding citizens of our country. 740 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,519 And to go ahead and say it doesn't apply to 741 00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:19,119 one particular subset is the downfall of our society. And 742 00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,719 so if we want to get over this and we 743 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,039 want to move forward, we got a lot of work 744 00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:27,599 to do in educating people on I guess you've got 745 00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,920 to just educate people. But what's right and what's wrong, 746 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:33,519 it's what we all learned in kindergarten. And I think 747 00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:36,079 that's what we're coming to right now. We're coming to 748 00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:40,639 a place where we need to educate our citizens and 749 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,480 the children, and we got to make sure and we 750 00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:44,440 got to call things like you said, we got to 751 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,639 call it what it is. And you get people who 752 00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:50,159 are going ahead and showing up and celebrating murderers and 753 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,840 celebrating there's got to be consequences to that. There has 754 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,159 to be consequences to every person. Do you know that 755 00:46:56,199 --> 00:46:57,920 there is four hundred and fifty and I'm just going 756 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,920 to talk about in Toronto, Canadas. I know you guys 757 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,199 are us stide, but we're not that different, even though 758 00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:08,039 there seems to be some issues going on lately, we're 759 00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:11,800 really not different. Okay, four hundred and fifty charges were 760 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,840 laid of people who are vandalists, vandalized and who did 761 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,679 unthinkable things in protesting in our streets. Here, it's just 762 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,719 like in the US. No different than in what happened 763 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,519 in Columbia, No different than what happened in Ohio, what 764 00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:29,239 happened in other states. But here I can tell you 765 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,119 the numbers because I know them. Four hundred and fifty 766 00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:33,599 people arrested. Do you know how many convicted? 767 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,159 Speaker 5: Zero? 768 00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 2: Do you know how many convicted in Columbia? 769 00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 4: Zero? 770 00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 2: In New York? 771 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:39,519 Speaker 1: Zero? 772 00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:44,079 Speaker 2: Do you know why zero means nothing? It's what our 773 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:49,880 magistrates hold the value of what these people did against 774 00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:54,920 our social contract is less than any value you could 775 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,920 think about it. That is zero, and that is what 776 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,400 we have to change. If we're going to become, if 777 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,239 we're going to fight the indecency, and we're going to 778 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,639 become back to our roots of decency, then that cannot 779 00:48:07,679 --> 00:48:09,599 be zero. We cannot be zero. 780 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,079 Speaker 1: Well, you certainly cannot aid and a bet the people 781 00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:18,519 who have brought us zero as in zero meaning to life. 782 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,639 And that's where we stand in this existential crisis, not 783 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,400 just in Israel, the United States and the rest of 784 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,159 the world. Thanks to my guest today, Israel elis Middle 785 00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:32,320 East expert, father of an IDF soldier, an author of 786 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,440 The wake Up Call, Global Jihad and the Rise of 787 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,119 Anti Semitism in a World Gone Mad. Thanks so much 788 00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:40,440 for joining us, is Reel. 789 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,119 Speaker 2: My pleasure, My pleasure. If I can just tell you 790 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,480 very important the book is available on Amazon. I would 791 00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:49,760 encourage people to please go and read the book, to 792 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,440 get educated by what it has to say, and to 793 00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:55,440 please review it on Amazon. And we didn't discuss this, 794 00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,719 but there's a lot of corporate punitive discriminatory action going on. 795 00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:05,519 Amazon has put a freeze on any marketing funds towards 796 00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:10,360 anything related to October seventh, and there's just absolutely no 797 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,880 reason for it. And we got to fight that, and 798 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,840 we got to fight that by getting books about October seventh, 799 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,599 particularly this book and and and to get the ratings 800 00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:21,920 up there and to show Amazon that people are reading 801 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,239 the book, and so we need people to buy it, 802 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,800 to read it, and to review it. I think that 803 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,559 your reader, your listenership is going to really enjoy the 804 00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:32,480 wake up call, not from a sense of enjoyment, but 805 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,920 really from a sense of of of education. I think 806 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,079 that it's a very easy read, and I'd like to 807 00:49:38,119 --> 00:49:41,320 see it's not just it's not for Jewish people. It's 808 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,599 really meant for, you know, a very broad broad spectrum 809 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,800 of the world who could really benefit from the information 810 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,480 and the wake up call. So thank you so much 811 00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:53,960 for having me, and thank you for waking up. Well. 812 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,559 Speaker 1: If any entity news outlet knows what it means to 813 00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:04,519 be basically silenced in the media world, it is the Federalist. 814 00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:07,760 We have been fighting for a long time to bring 815 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:15,519 the messages, important messages to our readers and to expanded readers. 816 00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:19,719 So we certainly understand the issue with Amazon. You've been 817 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,440 listening to another edition of The Federalist Radio Hour. I'm 818 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,920 Matt Kittle, Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist. We'll be 819 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,159 back soon with more. Until then, stay lovers of freedom 820 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:45,280 and anxious for the fray