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Speaker 1: Good evening everyone, Welcome back to Discord and Dragons. This

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is the one hundred and fifty fifth episode tonight. You

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probably know some of the things we're going to talk about,

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but hopefully I'll surprise you with some other things. We

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have some wonderful guests here, all from the old Glory Club.

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Tonight it will be a fantastic stream, I promise you that.

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So without further ado, let's go ahead and bring on

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the feature guests for this evening, mister Pete quinn Nonas,

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Welcome back to the channel.

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Speaker 2: Sir, hey is how are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I'm all right.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little under the weather. I had a very

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minor cold over the weekend, but it was nothing to

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sneeze at at puns. But whatever, the winter months start

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getting here and it gets cold and people burn all

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the dust off their heaters, it really messes with me.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: So that plus all of the pollen from the hurricanes

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had had a rough breathe in the last few weeks.

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But other than that, doing pretty good. Thank you for

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asking my friend. Speaking of friends, we also have Hunger

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Merchant back again.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the stream, sir, Oh, it's a pleasure to

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be here.

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Speaker 1: He is speaking of good friends news fist back again,

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Good evening, sir. Hi one last and certainly leased in

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stature as my little co host three of twelve, rounding

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out the crew for tonight.

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Speaker 4: Good evening, sir, Good evening. Oh god, those the salergies

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killing me too.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, it's Hugh. I am having trouble breathing and

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sleeping lately. I am not my best right now. But

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that's fine. We have a show to do. We have

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many lovelies in the chat already. We even have Jason Kona,

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the Nope White Guilt guy here, author of the Go

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Free book that I like so much. He is here

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in the chat. Hello Jason.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: I also see we got scrubs from Dangerfield's channel. Good

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to see you guys here as well. And we got

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some some of the usuals over on Rumble already. We

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are doing good. Now, let's go ahead and bring the

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branding up. Let's get the name plates out. Which interface

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is different now, so it's a little harder to get

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all these open. Give me just a moment, Come on, now,

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where is.

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: They used to make this so easy to do. Everything

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just gets so over engineered. I hate it. Come on.

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Why are you not working? Let's try this? How about this?

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Speaker 3: There we go?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's back to working again. We're gonna

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do now. I want a more blue and purple than that.

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What do we got that'll work? That's good? Okay, thanks

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stream Yards. I appreciate it. All your crap new features

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don't that I didn't ask for and don't want. Did

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you guys know that that stream Yards basically doubled its

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monthly fee and went from twenty five USD to forty

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five USD at a single jump.

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Speaker 2: Who Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I saw that, and

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I'm subscribed to them, but it doesn't I don't think

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it expires until June. But yeah, I'm gonna jump out

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and just stay with Restream. I mean the amount that

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the amount that they want is for a Streamyard is

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like insane.

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Speaker 1: Especially because they don't really offer anything that I need

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or want. It's just they have all these bloated features

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that I have no use for at all, and I

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feel like that's how they're justifying the price increase. Anyway,

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let's not bitch about that. Let's talk about the dragons. Ohh,

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I totally could too, but I don't think the users.

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The listeners want to hear the stream yard users complain.

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Speaker 3: So the dragons, that's what we're here for.

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Speaker 1: The dragons for tonight are going to be fun guys.

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Starting with the Green Dragon, We've got f's for Fred

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and Peanut. The Black Dragon has mail in voter intimidation,

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the White Dragon has y more problems dot dot dot,

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the Blue Dragon has health or wealth, and the Red

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Dragon has basket of garbage. So Pete quanons, you are

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the elder and the best podcaster here, so you have

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the leadership privileges tonight, which mean which means you get

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to choose the topic or pick a party member to

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choose a topic. And the person who chooses the topic

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is the first one who has to answer the dragons

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question after I read from the article. So Pete, what

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will it be first? My friend?

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Speaker 2: Let's do why of our problems? All right?

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Speaker 1: That'll be the White Dragon, all right. Now we go

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to the New York Post Open air sex market is

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exploding in Brooklyn as hookers openly sell themselves along Pennsylvania Track.

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The market of sweethearts has nothing to do, has nothing

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on Brooklyn's CD Pennsylvania Track East New York's notorious open

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air sex market has seen an explosion of scantly planned

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prostitutes in the area near Pennsylvania Avenue, prompting a local

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poll Paul, I'm not a New York art I'm not

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a city, okay, a local politician to plead for cops

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to crack down. His parents are forced to shield their

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children's eyes, and residents wake up to use condoms scattered

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across their condo parking lot. We need the same attention

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to police department is paying in Roosevelt Avenue. Bring it

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out to East New York to help address the issue,

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said city councilman. There's some pictures of some whoas all right.

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The post encounter nearly a dozen skimpily dressed hookers Wednesday

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night standing beside the park City sanitation and semi trailer

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trucks along Georgia and Malta Avenues, bringing sleazy drivers to

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a stop, and even jamming up traffic as they chatted

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up potential johns. You like to hang out, said one prostitute.

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All right, I'm not gonna read the rest of this crap.

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It's just slice the life prostitute crap in a big city.

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I have no desire to readneate that that trect. So

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let's go ahead and move to the White Dragon, which

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is this fierce warrior here the what with us tonight

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is a powerful champion of his rather successful clan. Now

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that he's older and wiser, he helps train the younger

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worms of his clan in ways of draconic power and warfare.

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Part of that is understanding other worlds and their warfare,

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which is what led him to learn about Earth. His

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question tonight is as follows, And this comes to you first,

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mister kuniis what laws, policies, and social practices do you

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think are possible and necessary to heal our culture from

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this sickness.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what's really weird about this is you,

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as you showed those pictures, this is basically what Giuliani

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mayor Giuliani cleaned up. When I was growing up in

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New York, we had a section like that in the Bronx.

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It was called Hunts Point and it ran under a

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lot of it ran into the major Decon Expressway right

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next to trucks like like the tractor trailers like that,

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and the tractor trailers would actually be left open at

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night and they would actually pay whoever had the tractor

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trailer whatever business to do to do their business and

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the tractor trailer. So this is this is just a

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Guliani cleans up New York twenty twenty, rolls around, defund

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the police. Everything goes to hell, and it looks like

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we're reverting back to the seventies and eighties. So there's

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a couple of ways that Juliani cleaned up New York,

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and one of them was something controversial called stop and frisk, where.

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Speaker 1: Oh I remember that. Yeah, the leftoids were big mad

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, libertarians too, Oh yeah, because they're leftoids.

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Speaker 1: But the yeah, pretty much.

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Speaker 2: But what he did basically was if he saw, if

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police saw somebody that they were supposed to, you know,

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who they thought looked suspicious, they would pat him down.

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of innocent people. I think they patted down a lot

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innocent people, so it didn't look like they were racially profiling,

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is what they did. And they basically just had like

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a no tolerance policy. They just threw people in jail,

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through people in jail, through people in jail. That's exactly

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what it takes you need to know tolerance policy. You

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see someone who's breaking the law, even if it's something

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that you would consider be a misdemeanor and maybe even

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a ticket or something, we'll get them off the street

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for a couple hours. People start talking and they immediately know.

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It's like I said, you're not going to get rid

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of degeneracy from your culture. You have to drive it

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back into the shadows and not let it out. So,

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you know, I look at what Juliani did with stop

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and frisk. Also, I mean there was a lot more

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to do with it. The price of everything York just

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skyrocketed all at once because they stopped building, they said,

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and there was no more apartments to build, the YadA YadA,

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so it made it really expensive to live there. But

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just basically no nonsense policing. Arrest, even if it's just

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for a couple hours. If someone spits on the sidewalk,

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take them in and make them sit, you know, sit

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in the cooling cell for two hours, and then release them.

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They're going to go and tell everybody what happened that,

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you know, what happened to them, and the ship is

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going to stop, all right. Anything else, well, I mean,

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we could send them you know, put them in crystals

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and you know, for four or five years or something

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like that. But yeah, I think I think that we've

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seen I remember going to going back to New York. Yeah,

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I left New York and my my family left New

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York in nineteen eighty six. The first time I got

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to go back was in nineteen ninety five, and the

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city was already cleaned up. It was like, you know,

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you went. It went from you don't You're not in

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this area of Manhattan, even midtown Manhattan at midnight, two

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places booming at midnight and cops are everywhere. And you know,

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went to New York, especially during like the holidays, every

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other street there were two cops on the corner, so

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you know, just police presence kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's move to someone else. Who

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else wants to take this question?

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Speaker 4: I really couldn't say it any better because I was

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thinking the same thing and when I saw the question

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and the latter part, the two cops in every corner

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literally gets referred to as as as cops on every

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street corner.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: In fact, Boris Johnson was made famous because he adopted

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the policy of stopping frisk and applied it to London

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and massively reduced knife crime. And this was in like

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just this was in the early two thousands, like two

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thousand and two or so, in the post Blair days

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or towards the end of his relevance. So he ended

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up being a big stick in the butt of the

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of labor over there for that because London was actually

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functional city, a functional and clean city for once, just

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like it became the New York of Europe.

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Speaker 6: Oh, the memories.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you have memories of that times, right, Yeah,

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I've even seen him on the top gear. He was

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he was happy, he was charismatic, stuff like that. But yeah,

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I think what I'm trying to say is you need

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no tolerance policies. You commit a crime, you get thrown

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in jail. Doesn't necessarily have to be the longest time

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in jail, but for a lot of people who are

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normally of law abiding citizens and they don't want no

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trouble throwing, being thrown in jail for a day is

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enough to like sweach off crime forever because it's so embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I know that as someone who's been to jail, Pliny.

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I can tell you it just sucks. It's boring year

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around idiots like it's terrible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I've never been in jail. I've never

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even been pulled over. In fact, I pulled over a

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cop for cutting me off once. I hunked at him

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and he stopped and he was like, what's up. Oh sorry.

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So the closest I have to that is detention, and

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I got angry. I'm really angry because they were doing

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this policy. Were anybody who's leaving the lunch room after

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a food fight was going to get detention? I was like,

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the hell, what am I to do with this?

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Speaker 1: Well? Back to the topic. Is there anything you would

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like to add to what Pete talked about in regards

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to law's practices, social policy, social practices, etc.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The other half to this is cultural change. Obviously,

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parents need to take more interest in their children. They

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need to stop leaving them on the tablets, and they

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need to tell them what's right and wrong. In fact,

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I think Sargon is a really good role model for this.

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From a young he's been very talkative to his young boy,

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and the young boy respects him because instead of he's

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not arbitrary with him. He's not irrational with him. When

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his boy asks questions, he says, he says what it

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is and why, and you know he's very stern about like, okay,

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there's none of that now for this. You know, if

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you start crying on the bus, not now, maybe later,

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not now, though, you know, when you have the respect

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of your child, they'll do what you say. It's actually

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and that ties to rule four of totlve rules for life.

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Don't do anything that make your children hate you, because

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then they'll grow up to be more like you. And

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if you are an upstanding person and you are respectable,

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they will be like you. And I think that's the

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answer to the other half the equation. People need to

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become better. They really do.

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Speaker 1: All right, decent answer, Thank you very much, Hunger merchant

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us fist.

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Speaker 3: If only I had as much faith in humanity as

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of twelve as a as a degenerate med All I

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have to say is we used to be a proper

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country where if you wanted to partake in degeneracy you

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had to fly out to Vegas, you know, and there

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were certain brothels that you can do this kind of

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thing a proper country. Yeah, and yeah, we used to

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enforce our laws in our cities.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if I was emperor, I would designate a

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certain place of red light district and then savagely police

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anyone outside of that area breaking rules.

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Speaker 6: I'm with Emperor Constantine on this.

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Speaker 5: He was the one who basically didn't outlaw a prostitution

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because he said, it's just ridiculous, You're never going to

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do it, and all you're going to do is just

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waste all these resources and stuff like that.

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Speaker 6: I would probably hand out.

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Speaker 3: You can police prostitution, but you can't ban Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Exactly right. I would probably.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you can't stop people from wanting to

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have sex and get high, Like that's just that's always

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going to be a thing.

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Speaker 5: I would hand out licenses to some sort of you know,

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not exactly organized crime or if they were respectable, you

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know what I mean, right, so that you know where

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they are. You'd know who stuff started going wrong in

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the red light district, you'd know exactly who to call.

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You wouldn't have to, you know, and you could call

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them up and you'd be like, look, you e to

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take care of this, or the city's going to come

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down on you really really hard. You have an incentive to,

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you know, make this thing work. And yeah, young and

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heart says you'r Amsterdam. Basically yeah, because all you really do.

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Speaker 6: And however, the problem with saying.

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Speaker 5: You can't wipe this out, no, no, no, is that people

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immediately leap to the same argument with drugs and drugs

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and prostitution go together.

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Speaker 6: Legalizing drugs is very, very.

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Speaker 5: Bad, and I just I don't see how you can

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get around it. I know people are going to do

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it anyway. If you get to liberal on that. I mean,

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perhaps you could do a thing where you know, there's

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a certain area for all the drug os. But I

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think drug use is inherently more harder to police and

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in some ways more harmful than prostitutions. It's quite a

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new phenomena as well. I mean, okay, you can probably

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go back to the Chinese and the opium denz and

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all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But civilizationally speaking, it is a newer problem, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So my general, my general sort of attitude towards vice

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is that you have to give it a place. You

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have to say this is the place for it. Anyone

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doing it outside of that place is going to get

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shut on from a great height and then everybody and

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then everybody knows where the red light district is, right,

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and families don't have to like take their kids through it, right,

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Like everybody knows that's the place where the bad stuff

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goes on, and if there's any of it outside of there,

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then you can call the cops. But we don't even

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have an effective police force in London. This is this

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is many many many steps ahead. You'd need an actual

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white police force and you know, the will to enforce

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the laws that we will already have and all that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I made it go ahead. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: May I ask a question for the rest of you, guys,

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what do you do about the sort of parents that

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are such degenerates that they do bring their kids to

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ship like that, like the Pride parades, execution.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, but just have a lot of crystals, a lot

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of crystals dragon.

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Speaker 3: These dragons love love their crystals. But I just want

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to put I just want to push back on just

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one thing that's fast said, like about the Amsterdam model.

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I mean, first of all, the Amsterdam model, it's none

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of the locals, you know, participate in any of those activities.

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Those are just for the tourists, as anybody from Amsterdam

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will tell you. But it's also like there's I mean,

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even though drug use and prostitution is legalized. I mean,

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as dam is still the drug and human trafficking sex

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trafficking capital of the world, even though those things are legalized.

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That's I don't I don't think that's the right model,

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but that's just my opinion.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Amsterdam is a we I mean, I lived in

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Amsterdam for a while. It's weird.

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Speaker 5: It's a weird place, and I take your point. I mean,

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you could make the sort of argument that Amsterdam has

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become sort of an international red light center.

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Speaker 6: They've you know, red light district. They've been trying to

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clean it up.

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Speaker 5: But you're right, the problem is that there's a ton

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of international organized crime in Amsterdam. I don't know if

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any of you have seen that film Layer Cake, but

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one of the gangsters in there is this like complete idiot.

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You know, he goes to Amsterdam to do coke and

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bang hooker's and he's a complete idiot. And you do

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run into those kinds of people there. So I mean,

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you might say that you'd need a much more strict

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border policy sort of in addition to this, if it

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was any major international city.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, these are the kinds of problems that you know,

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you could you could start with the basic principle and

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just all of the niggli facts on the ground would

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be enough to keep an entire police department engaged. Like

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you're You're never going to find a perfect answer, unfortunately,

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to the interface between a moral idea and how humans

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actually act.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, yeah, I can confirm that all that

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is like what you say, because I have cause contacts

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that are Dutch, that are Dutch slash German slash live

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in the area, and the only the answer is that

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they have the culture to hold it up. It's like

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they have. They are one of the few peoples on

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this earth that can actually uphold, for the most part

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of more libertine slash right libertarian society and actually not

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completely screw everything up. The fact that they don't mostly

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they mostly don't predic in it at all. They have

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a sort of more libertine look on things, but they're

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also very strict with what they allow themselves to indulge in.

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And virtually every other part of the Netherlands is is

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rural traditional, They still court, they they they have all

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sorts of traditions that are lovely. The Netherlands is a

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lovely country. And just Amsterdam, it's just sort of a

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black spot that in Rotterdam where all the apparently their

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migrants are the relevance. So it's very relevant to the

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question obviously, because it's it's what do you need to

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make this work? How can you have any of these

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things where you're you know, your your whole three out

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of four pillars thing going on, and at least one

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of those pillars appears to be culture, and then another

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seems to be policing. I wonder what the other two

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pillars are if if there are.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like if you have a homogeneous society and

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a strong culture that the locals just don't fall into

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those traps. Who would have.

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Speaker 2: Thought, hmmm, big jar.

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Speaker 1: The The only thing that I have to add to

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this conversation, Uh holy, this is for Lomax. Here there

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you go, Lomax. That's what Narken is. You can read

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about it. The thing that I think matters most for

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cleaning up this trash and fixing YMR problems is you

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have to be willing to go without to do what's right,

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and enough people have to be willing to do that

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to clean up the mess. And I don't mean that

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it's like some kind of weird call to war and

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you know, crazy ethnic cleansing stuff. What I mean by

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that is eventually enough people are going to be upset

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enough and at risk enough and angry enough to start

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doing something about it on a local level. Productively, people

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are mad about it and talk about it online now

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and then in some of us are organizing intelligently, like

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the Old Glory Club for example. Many people have made

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go free clubs with the Whitewell being Crew. They're trying

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to clean up their local areas and have more moral,

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clean living influence on the culture around them. It's going

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to take good men getting into places of power and

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doing what's right. We don't even need a new government

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and new laws. We just need men that are worth

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a crap actually implementing the things that we have. And

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I think you'll start seeing a decline in these kinds

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of problems if this is a big if, if we

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start turning off the welfare spigot and stopping the mass

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migration rotating door, because those things decay an identity that

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people are willing to defend and think has value. If

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your state or national or country identity is so devalued

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and so debased that no one cares about it, and

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it's just melting pots, sieven, that garbage in every direction.

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People don't have any reason to care because there's nothing

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there for them. Everyone just becomes this rootless individual that

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only cares about himself. And I think that unless we

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can remedy that, then there's really not much else that

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we can do about out these societal problems. So we

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could sit here and talk about policy and stuff all

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we want, But what it's gonna take, like Pete tells you,

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like I tell you, it's going to take an organized,

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motivated minority to take power and start doing what's necessary

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to clean house and doing what we can to cut

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off the sources of our of our worst problems.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think.

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Speaker 1: So any other input before we move to superchats for

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this question? All right, let's move on then over on entropy.

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We have two things from Melon and we have one

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big thing from Paladin, which we'll get to in a second.

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Melon says, shout for three US dollars, thank you, mellon

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shout out to Hunger for covering mine and twenty other

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dudes lunch the other day at a meetup. He won't

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even brag about it, but I will.

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Speaker 3: Keep hey, keep it on the downlough. Okay, this is

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for the group chat.

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Speaker 1: Another three dollars from Melon. I return home for the

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first time in two weeks, and yet more of my

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Christmas tree farm has been parceled off and staked for

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development billions. I will find a way to stop this.

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I'm sorry to hear that somebody's taken your land like

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I'm confused. That's that's sad. I hope that you get

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compensated properly and they don't just snatch it from you.

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Speaker 4: Government.

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Speaker 3: No, I think the I think the farm and his

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probably not his personal farm, but the one in the area.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got you. I see what you mean, Paladin.

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Why why z interesting fellow that I met at the

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last OGC meet up sends in fifty US dollars. Thank you, man,

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that's a great donation. Deeply appreciate it, he says. I

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say that you need to let the problems run their courses.

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We didn't get here because of a bad mayor people

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need to realize that as a collective they need to

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go back to the fork in the road and take

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the other path. Culture leadership, media will follow. Yeah, that's

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kind of what I was saying, man Like, there's going

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to come a point to where there's gonna be a

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lot of dregs of society, as I mean, even white people.

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God knows, we've got enough enough of those that are

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broken beyond repair. And there's going to come a point

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to where there will be a bottleneck. There will be

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economic hardship, and the people who don't care enough about

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themselves and don't have an identity, they're not going to

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make it. And the people who don't make it through

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that bottleneck, who don't make it through that long winter,

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well we didn't need them anyway. They didn't prepare for

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the long winter, so they starve that kind of thing.

477
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,200
I do think that there is going to be a

478
00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:38,079
necessary culling eventually, just because of quite literally not ironically,

479
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,759
socioeconomic factors. Huck huck. I do think that that is

480
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,960
going to be a culling factor, and I think it'll

481
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,920
mostly get rid of the people that we don't need anyway.

482
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,599
Any other input on that one from you guys.

483
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: Nuts.

484
00:25:54,559 --> 00:25:56,279
Speaker 4: No, nothing is just be with there.

485
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be uh you're going to see

486
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,319
a survival of the fittest come into play for sure.

487
00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: All right, And I'm check the other sites and it

488
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,680
doesn't seem like we have anything else, so we are

489
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:15,519
clear to move on. Well, yeah, because that was from

490
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:18,319
last week. Ook, that's not for now. Okay, all right,

491
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,920
very good, all right, we'll drop that banner and we'll

492
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,799
bring the dragons back up. That was the ha white dragon,

493
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,480
which means we have basket of garbage from the red

494
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:30,640
health or wealth from the blue. F's for Fred and

495
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,200
peanut from the green, and mail in voter intimidation from

496
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,200
the black Pete knonees. You are party leader tonight, sir?

497
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:37,839
What will it be?

498
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:40,599
Speaker 2: Health or wealth?

499
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:54,759
Speaker 1: Health or wealth from the blue dragon? All right, come on, obs,

500
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,160
all right, here we go. This is from zero Hedge.

501
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:06,079
Establishment media says Trump's mass deportations will be an economic disaster.

502
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,359
It's the same tire to debunk to arguments over and

503
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,960
over again from the open borders cheerleaders, legacy media dinosaurs

504
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000
still clinging to the last vestiges of their once vast

505
00:27:16,079 --> 00:27:20,240
prehistoric Kingdom have consistently defended mass immigration and common sense

506
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,799
border security. They claim that America and the West End

507
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,079
general can't survive economically without illegal immigrants and a steady

508
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,920
flow of non citizens from the Third world. Without them,

509
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,799
who will mow Republican yards and clean Republican toilets? Left

510
00:27:32,839 --> 00:27:35,359
us often argue, but is this true? Or do illegal

511
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,359
immigrants actually take far more than they contribute when it

512
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,759
comes to the economy. Well, everyone in here is intelligent

513
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:43,920
and knows these factoids, so we're not going to go

514
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,920
over it. There's no reason to read the rest of this.

515
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,880
This is just a launching off point for something that

516
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,400
I want to talk about with my panel tonight. So

517
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,440
we're going to go ahead and move to the Blue Dragon. Now,

518
00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:58,839
that's the wrong thing. I spoiled the question. The Blue

519
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,039
Dragon with us tonight is a put crossar of his clan,

520
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,759
which is a title given to the greatest visionary and

521
00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:08,759
thinker of the clan. He lives in a huge magic

522
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,519
city of dragons and other creatures that floats high above

523
00:28:11,519 --> 00:28:14,759
his beautiful desert. He spends time learning about about the

524
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:17,960
various complex worlds which show promise along the lines of

525
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,359
technological advancement and ingenuity. His question to us tonight is, thus,

526
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,720
what level of financial hardship and economic decline is worth

527
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,319
ending mass migration and removing immigrants from your nation? Do

528
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,079
you have a limit?

529
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:38,279
Speaker 2: I guess I go first. Huh, well, he did choose

530
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:45,400
the dragon, all right. A lot of the GDP you

531
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:51,240
that they talk about is basically them inviting illegals in

532
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:54,839
here and giving them free money and basically like giving them.

533
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:59,359
I mean, the Haitians in Springfield may as well have

534
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,799
MX black cards from the things I hear that they're

535
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:04,680
buying that, I.

536
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Mean, that's not really an exaggeration because the pictures we see.

537
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,319
They've got brand new smartphones, they've got good clothes.

538
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,319
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand dollars, vehicles on hundred thousand dollars SUVs,

539
00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:17,799
and I hear they're buying guns. So yeah, important army.

540
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,680
But yeah, that's part. That's what you're seeing all this.

541
00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:24,599
You know, it's like, oh, look at how well the

542
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,559
economy is doing. Now. We know that economy is not

543
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:29,599
doing well, but it should be doing It should probably

544
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,559
be in recession by now, and it's being propped up

545
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,160
by money printing and just giving it to people who

546
00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:42,000
are illegal and allowing them to just go ham And

547
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:43,839
you know, people can make the argument, oh well, you

548
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:46,799
know there's there's Native American. You know, there's Americans who

549
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,839
are here. There's heritage Americans who are getting free stuff too.

550
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160
It's like if I have a problem with that too,

551
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,359
but if they need it, I'd rather go to them

552
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,319
than go to some fucking sixty five IQ. You know, Yeah,

553
00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,000
it didn't do from God in set? Yeah in set,

554
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,319
insane person you know forgain voodoo practitioner from an island

555
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,240
that half of it should have been blown up Dominican Republic.

556
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:17,000
It's fine, we need baseball players. So yeah, that's what

557
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:21,240
we see. Look anything, any way we get this fixed,

558
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:24,119
it's going to be painful. There's going to be a

559
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,240
lot of pain for a while getting rid of deporting

560
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:31,920
forty million people. It's going to hurt. But also prices

561
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,839
are going to go down. Price of housing is going

562
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,559
to go down, price of food is going to go down,

563
00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:40,319
the price of get everything all the price the price

564
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:43,119
of everything is going to go down if you get

565
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,319
rid of forty million people. So I see an offset there,

566
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,640
but I think there will be pain. It's just I mean,

567
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,640
if anything. If you're sick, you're you know, you may

568
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,839
have to do something that hurts, you know, in the

569
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,359
in the short term, so that in the long term

570
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,799
you're healthy again. And that's the way I see this

571
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,359
working out.

572
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. I agree with you

573
00:31:06,079 --> 00:31:08,000
on that. Who else wants to take this question?

574
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll jump on that because I don't even think

575
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,480
Pete's right. Okay, it will, it'll it'll hurt, you know,

576
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:19,839
quote unquote for a brief period of time. But it's like,

577
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,960
you know, I come, I cut my finger today just working,

578
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,319
working with a knife, and when I put alcohol on

579
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:30,759
on on the cut, Yeah, fucking hurt. But I stopped

580
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,920
the bleeding and you don't want to get and I'm

581
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,440
not gonna.

582
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:34,799
Speaker 2: Get an infection.

583
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: So it did it hurt, Yeah, but it helped. It

584
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,880
helped way more than it hurt.

585
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: You know.

586
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: I had a tweet months ago like think of the

587
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,119
housing market, like what is the housing market gonna look like?

588
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,839
Because everyone's talking about like, oh, no one can buy.

589
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,799
This is a huge talking point economically, no one can

590
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:56,880
afford a house, which is completely true, completely true, Like

591
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,920
real estate prices are insane. No one can afford a house. Yep,

592
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,240
what how does twenty million people you know, being removed

593
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,880
change that a fucking law? These are low and these

594
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,240
are low income people and Section eight housing? What do

595
00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:16,839
Section eight do? These these people get Section eight housing

596
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:19,960
assistance from the federal government, and what do they buy up?

597
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,759
They buy up all the two bedroom houses, all the townhouses,

598
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:27,880
all the single family houses, all the starter homes that

599
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,279
were all built in the eighties and seventies. They're getting

600
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:34,400
those houses and you're not getting those houses. So remove

601
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,079
twenty million of those people. Well, I think we're all

602
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:39,440
gonna be able to afford houses again.

603
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,839
Speaker 1: Yep, newsis what do you think?

604
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 6: I think?

605
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 5: I think hungers sort of like nailed it. There would

606
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,839
definitely be economic problems. The biggest problem will be that

607
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,880
the mass importation of immigrants had been used to slow

608
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:06,279
the rate of inflation by keeping wages down, and wages

609
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,680
are said to be the main driver of inflation, but

610
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,119
that is in fact a misnomer. Rising wages are the

611
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:17,279
most visible effect of inflation, and that's why it keeps just,

612
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:20,200
you know, going round round around the government. Principal money devalues,

613
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,880
the currency, people's pay declines in real terms, and then

614
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,880
they have to raise the pay now. I think if

615
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,160
we got rid of all the migrants, the insane amount

616
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,680
of money printing would actually be revealed.

617
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,839
Speaker 6: It is only because of.

618
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: Money printing that they can't actually afford to pay people

619
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,039
that live in their countries to do basic jobs.

620
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: Despite that that Kinsey and Nightmare training we're talking about.

621
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, basically, And that's and that's why they're always like, oh,

622
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,240
you know, it's because people are lazy, and it's no,

623
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:56,599
it's it's because a very short time ago, within the

624
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,559
living memory of.

625
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,279
Speaker 6: Many people, you had a situation.

626
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 5: Where one parent could go have a job and afford

627
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:08,760
a nice house, a car, sometimes two cars, two kids,

628
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,880
and go on holiday once a year. And you know,

629
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:17,519
the people are so obsessed by the number. They just

630
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:19,960
they a lot of people just missed the decline in

631
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:24,360
the actual purchasing power of your currency, which has degraded

632
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,920
to an insane level and will just continue to in

633
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,400
grade degrade as long as the current financial system is

634
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,800
in play. But I think if we got rid of

635
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,719
all the migrants, as as hunger, I think we're saying,

636
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,280
or pete, the price of many things would go down.

637
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:49,599
The problem is that the economists that run the West

638
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,840
have basically gotten their mind that the price of anything

639
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,079
going down significantly at any point is ruinous because of

640
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,599
the way you know, of the economic.

641
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,199
Speaker 6: System is leveraged.

642
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 5: This is one of the reasons why they're so against deflation.

643
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:09,320
And so this would be like this would be a

644
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,559
massive shock, and yeah, it would, it would massively change

645
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,239
the economy. But on the other hand, right, you you

646
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,239
wouldn't have to deport them all at once, right, you

647
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,559
could easily take like, okay, so the first thing, just

648
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:22,960
remove all the poll factors.

649
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 6: Okay, so in the UK and the US stop giving

650
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,440
them infinite money and stuff like that. But again, this

651
00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:29,320
is not this is not an accident. Right, Let's let's

652
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,280
not pretend.

653
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: Like, oh, who would have thought that if we left

654
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,079
a you know, huge jar of honey outside it would

655
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:39,559
like attract flies. I mean bullshit, right, they know exactly

656
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:42,840
what they're doing. But yes, if you remove the pull factors,

657
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,639
and then you just sort of increased enforcement, if you

658
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,360
just made it, you know, sort of knowing that the

659
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,199
place wasn't welcome to migrant so you could you know,

660
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,840
gradually sort of like cut the numbers down, although you

661
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,880
might need something bit more drastic. I mean in the

662
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,880
UK this is like a huge, just a massive problem.

663
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,599
We've got a problem here that you don't have in

664
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:06,840
the US because we've got the NHS, which is free

665
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,800
at point of use to well basically anyone at the moment, right,

666
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,360
So we are effectively running an international hospital on a

667
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:18,360
national budget and it is all the actual productive people

668
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,840
who are paying out the ass for it. Obviously, So

669
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,239
so yeah, yeah it would It would be painful, But

670
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,079
I think the greater pain, to be perfectly honest, would

671
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:32,920
be the pain of all the shit libs who would

672
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
have if if, if this was done successfully and if

673
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,159
things got better, they would have to.

674
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 6: Finally admit that maybe not.

675
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 5: Every single person on the earth is the same or

676
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,440
of the same value, and that maybe having a society

677
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,079
where everyone can speak the same language is a good thing,

678
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:52,159
and they would just the coping, seething and bitching we've

679
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:53,360
gone for years.

680
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: I want to address akarment of on Rumble Cool Paladin,

681
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,320
whyby zed get if I get a financial guy in

682
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,039
our shows, you can stop the bleeding that comes from

683
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:11,719
not understanding how the treasury works. Dude, We understand how

684
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,400
the treasury works. Like we're talking about the exploitative usury

685
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,440
of quantitative easing and central banking. Like what we understand it?

686
00:37:18,519 --> 00:37:23,079
Speaker 6: My dude, I think Paladin's got into the m MT.

687
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,119
Speaker 4: Out know all, he's taking cold medication.

688
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 3: How does the treasury help me buy a house? If

689
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,360
another immigrant gets free money and I don't, how does

690
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,559
it help me buy a house?

691
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like that the problem we were talking about first

692
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,599
their Paladin. Even if there wasn't fiat currency and central usury,

693
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,440
if you had a government that was massively importing foreigners

694
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:52,760
and in a hurry to replace its host population, flooding

695
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:55,800
tons of people into an area of finite space with

696
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,880
finite homes, doesn't matter what type of currency you had,

697
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,960
it would still massively increase the value of those homes.

698
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,760
So those are kind of separate issues there. But anyway,

699
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,599
I would love to have a long spurgy economics conversation

700
00:38:11,679 --> 00:38:14,519
with you, because over on Paul and libertarian a cap

701
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:16,760
stuff is what got me started down the pipeline. Anyway,

702
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,199
I think I'm gonna had I think I talked to

703
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:20,199
Pete about that at a function we went to.

704
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,679
Speaker 2: Actually I'm speak a lot. We got to talk a

705
00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:26,159
lot that weekend we did.

706
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: That was one fun man that was that was a

707
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,760
good time. Why don't you take the dragon's question. You're

708
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,079
the only one that hasn't answered it yet.

709
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:38,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the other answers have been fantastic so far.

710
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:40,960
The only thing that that that you guys have really

711
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:44,920
left me with is is that I've heard from one

712
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,119
source it would cost sixty billion dollars to do approximately

713
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,519
based on hiring lots of ice agents and then building

714
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,280
regional centers where they flow towards towards either airports or

715
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the border or wherever. And I don't know what it's

716
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,280
based on, really, I don't know enough. I'm not exactly

717
00:39:04,519 --> 00:39:07,880
a financial bro that I don't know some basic economics

718
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:14,440
I've been studying Austrian economics. Have to agree with the

719
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:16,760
Treasury as well. It does not help in any way

720
00:39:17,079 --> 00:39:22,239
and the destruction of such entities would would cause a

721
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,199
significant amount of deflation considering the destruction of the currency

722
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:31,920
involved if it's destroyed. I have to say. It's Ron Paul,

723
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:35,599
and that caught me down this road as well. I

724
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,199
know I've been I know for a fact, I've been

725
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:41,599
a libertarian since at least when I was fourteen, and

726
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,679
by the time I was fifteen, I was an objectivist,

727
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:48,280
and my relationship with the objectivism is something that's very

728
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,079
close and near and dear to my heart.

729
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: I still to have a long talk with you about

730
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:53,280
that one day. We need to do that.

731
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 4: Oh God, yes, we got to do that, because I

732
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,400
see it as a way to be a big al

733
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,880
libertarian and a big c conservative at the same time.

734
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Speaker 1: And I think you're wrong. That's why I need to

735
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,840
talk about it. But that's a conversation for another day.

736
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Speaker 4: Well it's not for everyone.

737
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Speaker 2: I can help with Paladin's comment. Stormy Waters does a

738
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,320
really Stormy Waters does a really good job of talking

739
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,639
about how basically energy is a greater cause of inflation

740
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,760
than anything else because if you're not manufacturing here you

741
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,280
the level the amount of money that you have to

742
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,679
put into energy like gas and oil and fuel and

743
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:38,639
everything else to transport everything everything around. That increases the

744
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:41,480
price of everything. That's where you're getting it from. I

745
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:44,159
think he says something like it costs like a dollar

746
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:48,159
for every mile to transport by truck, fifty cents every

747
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:51,679
mile to to transport by I forget what the other

748
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:53,679
thing he said, but he said it's like ten cents

749
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:57,599
a mile to transport by ship. So we could be

750
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floating and we have like the biggest river system in

751
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,400
the world in the in the United States. We could

752
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,000
just be transporting things by ship if we were if

753
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,199
we were creating it here, if we were building it here.

754
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,920
So you have to take into consideration that what energy

755
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:21,840
does to the price to consumer price index, It sends

756
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:27,519
things through the roof. Anybody who's yeah, fifty cents. Yeah,

757
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:31,360
someone just said ten cents a dollar by by road,

758
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,960
fifty cents by rail, ten cents by by water, got you.

759
00:41:38,199 --> 00:41:42,039
Speaker 3: And anybody who manufacturing knows this, Like energy is the

760
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most important energy. Energy affects the price of literally everything

761
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in the entire economy.

762
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Speaker 1: And I assume that that's one of the reasons why

763
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as soon as one of the reasons why to stop

764
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,840
all the oil stuff, that's one of the things that

765
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,079
made the economy start getting shittier almost immediately.

766
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons why Palette and saying

767
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,119
that Ron Paul and Elon Musk getting together and talking

768
00:42:04,119 --> 00:42:07,159
about the economy isn't great for the economy because it's

769
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:10,880
not all the Federal Reserve and they're globalists, and I'm

770
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,880
not saying they're globalist because they want global they want

771
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,960
global government. They're globalist because they want global trade. And

772
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,480
when you get global trade, that's when you get the

773
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you're using more energy than you actually need to when

774
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,320
it could just be built right here. Sure, maybe we

775
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,159
may not be able to mine graphite here, We're gonna

776
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:32,239
have to get it from somewhere else. But we are

777
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,000
rich here in so many different things. So when you

778
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:39,719
have these free marketers, you know, these people who are

779
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,280
completely against tariffs, I think tariffs are the worst thing.

780
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,920
I mean, this country ran on just tariffs for a

781
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:49,599
century and it was probably the most prosperous century we had,

782
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:56,119
the nineteenth century where we didn't kill the power you

783
00:42:56,119 --> 00:42:58,639
know where we didn't kill the dollar by sending everything

784
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:05,280
overseas and kill purchasing power by sending everything overseas. Yeah,

785
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:10,039
that's why I left Austrian economics. I put Austrian economics

786
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:12,800
behind me, and now I study people like Friedrich List

787
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,800
and even Alexander Hamilton, because either are the people who

788
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,039
talk about tariffs, and tariffs are the way you keep

789
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:21,960
manufacturing here and you keep energy prices and you keep

790
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,719
the consequences of energy prices down.

791
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Speaker 1: Gotcha. Well, anything else on this topic before we move on, gentlemen,

792
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,079
it's already. I think that means we can move on

793
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,559
because we don't have any paid chats that I can

794
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:42,760
see anywhere. So we go ahead and bring back the dragons.

795
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:53,079
Bring back the dragons, all right. We just did the

796
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:57,440
blue dragon health or wealth, which means we have f's

797
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,440
for Fred and peanut, mail in voter and timidation and

798
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:03,360
basket of garbage. What'll it be next, mister.

799
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: Pete, mail in voter intimidation?

800
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,679
Speaker 1: All right, from the black Dragon, vettegoud.

801
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:14,199
Speaker 2: Black Dragon.

802
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:26,119
Speaker 1: Oh yes, ah, very good, very good, all right, quanobs

803
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,280
work please, thank you leftist groups. This comes to us

804
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,960
from the Federalist. Leftist groups turn to threats to get

805
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,559
out the vote. Maryland's Attorney general is warning the Voter

806
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:44,760
Participation Center to stop sending threatening mailer's to its residents.

807
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:50,920
Growing increasingly desperate in a tight presidential race, leftist groups

808
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,159
appear to be turning to the intimidation game. Just days

809
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:56,320
before the election, The Maryland Attorney General's office is warning

810
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,519
the infamous Voter Participation Center to stop sending mailers to

811
00:44:59,559 --> 00:45:05,159
residents threatening to expose their voting records. Attorney General Anthony Brown,

812
00:45:05,199 --> 00:45:08,000
a Democrat, sent the VPC a cease and assist letter

813
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:12,559
after Marylanders complained of receiving the group's so called voting

814
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:17,960
report card attempting to shame people into voting. We're sending

815
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,440
this mailing to you and your neighbors to share who

816
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,519
does and does not vote in an effort to promote

817
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:26,199
election participation. While we have hidden the name and street

818
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,559
number of your neighbors to protect privacy, these are their

819
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:33,280
true voting records. The mailer warns, we will be reviewing

820
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,519
these records after the election to determine whether or not

821
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:39,519
you joined your neighbors in voting. In a press release,

822
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:43,719
Brown admonished the Voter Registration Activist Group that any action

823
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,840
that intimidates prospective voters, especially on the eve of such

824
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,960
a consequential election, will not be tolerated. It's really gross.

825
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:56,039
The VPC, which bills itself as a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization,

826
00:45:56,159 --> 00:45:58,360
yeah right, we've read that before. With a mission to

827
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,199
help members of the new American majority already register and vote,

828
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,519
has been used as such tactics for the better part

829
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:07,400
of two decades, said Parker Thayer, investigative researcher at the

830
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,320
Capital Research Center. He said the VPC and groups like

831
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,440
it are rarely held accountable. They used the First Amendment

832
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,679
to push their intimidation campaign. Maryland residents aren't the only

833
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,159
Americans that receive threatening voting messages. This particular bullying tactic

834
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,039
to try and intimidate or bully people into voting has

835
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:28,239
been incredibly popular this election cycle. They are told me

836
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,679
in a private interview Friday afternoon from Battleground, Michigan. This

837
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,280
is a tactic of desperation, as they are noted on X.

838
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,760
The leftist group Now This Impact created a website that

839
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,920
shows users how to quote stalk the voting history of

840
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,440
an ex friend or family member and bully them for

841
00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:53,039
not voting. You go to did my Friends vote dot org,

842
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:55,599
put in their name, age range, and place the registered

843
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,400
to vote. A young woman in a video on the

844
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,920
site explains, as an example, my mom and she's actually

845
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:07,119
voted quite a bit. Let's move on now to inaccurate

846
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:12,880
and potentially misleading. The Voter Participation Center was founded in

847
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,280
two thousand and three, starting out as Women's Voices Women Vote.

848
00:47:17,519 --> 00:47:21,840
According to Influence Watch Capital Research Centers nonprofit tracker, The

849
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,039
group initially focused on registering the strongly Democratic leaning the

850
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,719
voting block of single women to vote Today, the group

851
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:33,440
organizes registration of numerous Democratic leaning voting populations. The VPC

852
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:39,639
has long operated in a direct mail campaign targeting unmarried women, minorities,

853
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,679
and millennials, according to Influence Watch, with ties to the

854
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,880
Clinton Foundation, no doubt started by Podesta. Like most of them,

855
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:49,039
the Democrat Party and other leftist groups, the VPC has

856
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,760
faced a litany of criticisms, allegations, and charges about unethical,

857
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,119
even fraudulent practices. In twenty twenty, Fairfax County, Virginia warned

858
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:01,280
voters about an inaccurate and potentially miss leading mailing from

859
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,000
the vp From the Center of Voter Information, the vpc's

860
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,039
sister nonprofit, The group is mass mailing pre filled absentee

861
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:15,599
ballot applications to county voters without their request, and the

862
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:19,320
mailer includes return envelopes to send the application to the

863
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:24,880
City of Fairfax, not Fairfax County. In March, the Alabama

864
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,400
Secretary of State advised residents of a misleading, unsolicited mass

865
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:34,719
mailing of pre filled in voter registration forms targeting Alabama mailboxes.

866
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:39,679
The mass mailings were the products of VPC and CEDVI,

867
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:42,920
and well this just goes on to talk about how

868
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,800
they've been doing this and for years and years and years,

869
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,559
and they barely ever get a slap on the wrist

870
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:50,719
for doing it. So let's move to the Black Dragon. Now,

871
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,159
the Black with Us tonight chooses to keep details about

872
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,960
himself secret that serves the Great Dragon Empire in his

873
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:05,280
own way. He studies our world not just for entertainment,

874
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,000
but to learn about our unique cultural war and all

875
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:10,480
of the oddities which go along with it. He is

876
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:14,039
very curious about this democratic process and wonders how useful

877
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,559
it is for real politic. So here is the question,

878
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,960
And Pete, you chose this one, so it comes to

879
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,320
you first, Right, Okay, do you think we should care

880
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,719
about voting ethics or even voting itself at all? Is

881
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,519
it worth caring about if you're concerned with real politic?

882
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: Actually, the question I've been asking myself lately is does

883
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:44,159
voting matter if you live under our n occupied government? Yeah?

884
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:50,840
Do we voting ethics? I mean, the way to handle

885
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:57,239
the lefts voting voting practices is to do, I think

886
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:02,480
what the Santus did insure Florida. He basically set it

887
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:05,440
up and redistrict the whole thing so that like a

888
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:11,679
Democrat will never win again in Florida. So I mean,

889
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,400
I think it's important. I think voting. I care more

890
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,679
about voting when it comes to state and local, state,

891
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,199
county and local. I think that's where you can make

892
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:27,599
the most difference. Real politique, I mean, real politique is

893
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,920
getting in there and using power, the power that you have,

894
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:37,320
and expanding your power as well. So yeah, I think

895
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,280
that I think we should care about voting ethics only

896
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,840
in that we should meet it, and we should meet

897
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,000
it more force meet it more forcefully, but really concentrating

898
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:50,199
and concentrating where we have the ability to do that,

899
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:53,119
which would be local, county, or even state if you

900
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:54,320
live in a very small state.

901
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:56,679
Speaker 1: M hmmm. I agree with all of that.

902
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,679
Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, who else to.

903
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:02,199
Speaker 1: Take this next? Okay, go ahead?

904
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 4: Well, I mean this is what I've been saying for years, right,

905
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:10,039
you know, support your local politics. That's where it's important. Obviously,

906
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:13,199
in most years the federal elections has been globalst versus globalists,

907
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,760
so it's easy to say that voting didn't matter very much.

908
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,800
Now that we have someone who's shown that he's not

909
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,559
quite part of the establishment. This actually adds some value

910
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:27,519
to it. But of course, Pete, of course I respect

911
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:32,039
what you're saying, and I view the whole situation of

912
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,360
direct democracy voting as antithetical to the American system anyway.

913
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:41,679
There should just be electors appointed and then they vote

914
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,079
for president and that should be the end of it.

915
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,280
There shouldn't be something that's on every every individual's minds.

916
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,719
They have more important things to do than this, and

917
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,440
they shouldn't be deciding it either. They just they just

918
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,960
aren't up to the task. We had a system where

919
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,239
there was at least one level between any any elected official,

920
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:04,800
where you would vote in your local legislature and then

921
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,840
they would appoint they would s collectively appoint to senators,

922
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,679
and that would be that that differentiated it from Congress.

923
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,480
Congress is the only part of our government that was

924
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,480
directly elected, and that's fair enough to have that to

925
00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:20,679
balance out the rest of it.

926
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: I still don't like it.

927
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like it either. I think it actually

928
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:28,679
should go too. It should be they should be appointed

929
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,440
as well. I have no problem with it being based

930
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,440
on population if that's the case, but it shouldn't be

931
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,559
directly There should be no direct elections. People aren't. I

932
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:43,519
love my fellow Americans, but there's just not enough time

933
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:45,280
in a day for them to be up to the task.

934
00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:47,800
It used to be you had to be thirty five,

935
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,719
had to own property, and were the head of your household.

936
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:54,840
And before anybody accuses me of being sort of like

937
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,480
a massagist or anything in.

938
00:52:56,559 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: A household, nobody here's going to do that through what

939
00:52:59,360 --> 00:52:59,719
the hell?

940
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: You can't be more misogynist to me? I have to

941
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,480
hunt women at nights.

942
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: True, I've been taking lessons.

943
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: I literally have to get on all fours in like

944
00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:18,119
hunt a night to be more to be like more

945
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:19,280
misogists than an audience.

946
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,639
Speaker 1: That's some rookie numbers. You're gonna pump those up, son, Yeah,

947
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,079
but anyway, go ahead.

948
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:31,159
Speaker 4: But anyway, the point is that the standards did you

949
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,159
need to be much higher, and it needs to be

950
00:53:33,159 --> 00:53:34,920
people who have a stake in the community who are

951
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,280
actually making any decisions about anything, if anyone at all.

952
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:41,960
So at least the people who are like say, functional

953
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,400
in their community, pick the guy that they know that's

954
00:53:44,639 --> 00:53:47,280
the most qualified for the for the say, the local

955
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,599
position on the and the legislator, and then all these

956
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:53,239
guys who are pillars of these communities can pick two

957
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:58,559
competent senators and fair, Yeah, that's fair. That respects Great

958
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:01,559
Man theory, it respects theatural order, and it respects the

959
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:05,119
part of monarchy that we inherited from the British system

960
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,360
that are actually good. The whole point of a republic

961
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,719
is that it's supposed to be the evolution of a monarchy.

962
00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:15,320
The the head of the executive is supposed to replicate

963
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,159
the prose of having a monarch without many of the

964
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,039
the cons And it's just the fact that we're at

965
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,440
a point where I can I could probably pick a

966
00:54:24,519 --> 00:54:27,559
random boomer and they'd say, oh, the electoral college is

967
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:30,000
out of date, because it's essentially turned into a bunch

968
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,039
of rubber stamps. It's like, well, you're part You're the problem, dude,

969
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:36,719
you're the problem. You are you have not even a

970
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,079
paper thin understanding of our own civics, let alone our history.

971
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: And how open democracy and universal suffrage.

972
00:54:43,639 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 4: Yes, you don't, you shouldn't have. This is evidence that

973
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,039
you shouldn't have any part of it. You're not you're

974
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:53,239
not you're not ready, you're not educated enough, and and

975
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,599
by by no definition of that word, either whether it

976
00:54:56,639 --> 00:55:00,000
is the leftist definition or the real definition of actually,

977
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,480
you know, reading some some goddamn primary sources in history. No,

978
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,519
that's not even in doctrination. Stupid, that's just complete ignorance.

979
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,440
You don't know the civics. I can't. I can't make

980
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,519
any better case than half half of people are below

981
00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:20,400
average IQ in that they shouldn't be involved in politics

982
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,960
in any way. They have bigger things to think about,

983
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,159
like where they're going to get their next meal from

984
00:55:25,199 --> 00:55:27,400
Mommy or Nuggies or something.

985
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,559
Speaker 1: Where they get their next tends.

986
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 4: Exactly. I mean, some of these people are barely trainable

987
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,559
for their work, for their jobs.

988
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: Well, let's hear from somebody else news Field, I saw

989
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,559
you unmute. Is it your turn?

990
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay.

991
00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 5: So people forget a very important aspect of democracy, which

992
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:57,920
is to lessen into group conflict. So you could make

993
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,320
an argument in terms of voting ethics that that it's

994
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,000
is seen to be fair is actually more important than

995
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:09,519
whether it is actually fair. Now, some people might say, oh, well,

996
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:12,159
you know, we should have a monarchy and all that.

997
00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 6: Kind of other stuff.

998
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 5: But the fact of the matter is that the political

999
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,920
formula upon which the West operates at the moment is democracy.

1000
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,000
To switch to another political formula would require some kind

1001
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:24,440
of massive upheaval.

1002
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:25,159
Speaker 6: Upheaval.

1003
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:27,159
Speaker 5: So if we wanted to go to a monarch, for example,

1004
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:30,519
you would need I mean, this is this is Plato,

1005
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,719
Plato and Machiavelli. You know, after democracy, it goes back

1006
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,880
to principality. Out of the mob, someone emerges that can

1007
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,079
take control. Trump is a good example of this. You know,

1008
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:48,079
you need a great man that everyone or most people

1009
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,960
will follow, not because they're told to follow, but because

1010
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:55,199
he's got you know, he's got the thing that people follow.

1011
00:56:55,320 --> 00:57:01,760
So if you want to run a democracy correctly, I

1012
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,559
guess then yes you do need do you need voting ethics.

1013
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,920
The problem is, of course that the managerial state sort

1014
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,599
of overrides this eventually. Right, you can't really run any

1015
00:57:15,679 --> 00:57:19,400
kind of country sort of properly if everyone changes chairs

1016
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,400
every four years. Right, you know, people hate this, but

1017
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,000
it's true. Right, This is what causes the birth of

1018
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,719
the managerial state, because there are some decisions and some

1019
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,360
directions that need ten twenty years, which is one of

1020
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,559
the reasons, by the way that the West has such

1021
00:57:32,559 --> 00:57:35,679
a stick up its us about countries that have long

1022
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:36,639
term rulers.

1023
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1024
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,119
Speaker 1: And that's another thing that I think we even talked

1025
00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:41,400
about together on stream a year or two ago, is

1026
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:47,039
how having this really narrow window of revolving door elected officials,

1027
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,760
it leads to there never being any accountability. And that's

1028
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,920
why people just get in and lie and steal and

1029
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,320
cheat and take what they can get because they know

1030
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,039
they're just going to bounce out absolutely.

1031
00:57:56,119 --> 00:57:58,039
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, look at what's happening with Trump

1032
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:02,079
possibly being elected, right, the most squealing is from the

1033
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:04,840
managerial class because Trump's like, you know, he's going to

1034
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,480
clear them out, or he says he's going to clear

1035
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,880
them out, right, But just believe even the threat that

1036
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,880
the managerial state could actually you know, undergo significant change

1037
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,159
is enough to create this huge chueue and cry. Modern

1038
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:24,639
democracy is essentially picking the I don't know, the cod

1039
00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:26,760
piece for the managerial state, you know what I mean,

1040
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,280
You just you just swap the cod piece out and

1041
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,519
then you jangle it in front of the people and

1042
00:58:29,519 --> 00:58:31,280
you're like, oh, look it's a different cod piece, right,

1043
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,880
you know, throw your exit, throw your exit at the

1044
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:34,719
cod piece, right.

1045
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,639
Speaker 6: Lots lots of people have talked about this.

1046
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,719
Speaker 5: I mean, Scrump did it and made an excellent analogy

1047
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,039
of like, you know, depending on who the leader is,

1048
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,440
you you stick your some against the machine and it

1049
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,280
will be like, you know, order accepted or order denied.

1050
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,159
And since you know, the left is taken over the

1051
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:55,079
managerial state, it's you know, but look if if we

1052
00:58:55,199 --> 00:58:59,639
had like actual proper elections, I don't know. I think

1053
00:58:59,679 --> 00:59:02,599
so many Western societies have become so complex at this

1054
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:05,239
point you need a managerial state.

1055
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 6: To run them. But the current situation that we have

1056
00:59:08,039 --> 00:59:10,440
where the managerial state are essentially.

1057
00:59:10,599 --> 00:59:14,239
Speaker 5: Invisible and unaccountable and take more and more power, leading

1058
00:59:14,239 --> 00:59:16,599
people to be confused where power really lies. I mean,

1059
00:59:16,599 --> 00:59:19,320
this is another big problem. People don't actually know who's

1060
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,320
making the decisions. And this sort of leads into the

1061
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,000
show game of you know, of democracy. Oh it's Boris

1062
00:59:25,079 --> 00:59:27,760
Johnson making the real decisions. That the fuck it is right?

1063
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,639
It's not right, Like it's it's some faceless bureaucrat that

1064
00:59:31,719 --> 00:59:33,960
you've you've never seen and you will never meet. And

1065
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,679
unless you're like a complete politics hard you're you'll you'll

1066
00:59:36,719 --> 00:59:40,400
never know. Yeah, that's all I got to say.

1067
00:59:41,559 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Hunger Merchant, what do you think my friend.

1068
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,119
Speaker 3: I love democracy.

1069
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:51,159
Speaker 6: Aha, m h ironic.

1070
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to be Democracy's biggest supporter tomorrow. Tomorrow is

1071
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:57,920
going to be I'm going to be the biggest supporter

1072
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,639
of democracy because I'm going to for friends and punishing

1073
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:02,239
my enemies.

1074
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: Yep, I think I.

1075
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,199
Speaker 2: Wanted to clear up. I'm not the biggest anti Semite.

1076
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,719
I'm just like a huge pattern noticer.

1077
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1078
01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean those words are kind of synonyms though, pete,

1079
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:14,800
aren't they.

1080
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm definitely the smallest.

1081
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: That was cute?

1082
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Three, that was good? Uh, hunger. Is there anything else

1083
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,760
you wanted to say on the topic, because I have

1084
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,599
some things to share.

1085
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:33,119
Speaker 3: Uh not really, No, democracy is it is what it.

1086
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: Is when it comes to the old real politique taking

1087
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,079
power and doing power stuff. I do think that for us,

1088
01:00:40,119 --> 01:00:43,440
for our friends, for our group, I do think ethics

1089
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,639
matters to us, but we have to be willing to

1090
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,519
deny the benefits of those ethics to people who oppose them.

1091
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,199
That has been a major crutch of people with moral

1092
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:57,119
value on our side of things. Just generally speaking, I

1093
01:00:57,159 --> 01:01:00,480
think that when it comes to voting stuff and voting ethics, well,

1094
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:03,119
we can't just go flip a switch and end universal suffrage.

1095
01:01:03,159 --> 01:01:05,159
That ain't going to happen. I do think that we

1096
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,920
have to be concerned, at least on the local level

1097
01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:12,119
and to some degree larger levels with voting and voting ethics,

1098
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:16,159
because there needs to be, like was said earlier, the

1099
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:19,840
perception of fairness and the perception of the system being

1100
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,480
good and working, because you can't just have unrest and

1101
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:28,159
the common man being completely detached and thinking that anyone

1102
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,840
of any stripe that has any kind of political power

1103
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,599
is a corrupt, evil monster. Once you get to that point,

1104
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,039
you don't really have a civilization or a society anymore.

1105
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,320
You have to rebuild. It's just an economic zone full

1106
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,599
of individual actors, which in many places we are already

1107
01:01:42,639 --> 01:01:45,840
starting to see that become the case. So I do

1108
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,079
think that if we are going to do this real

1109
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:51,519
politic game, and we have been and we start taking power,

1110
01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:54,599
we do have to have at least the appearance of

1111
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:56,920
being the good guys and better than the people that

1112
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,239
we are punishing, or we just become a different kind

1113
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,320
of tyrant for the a man to hate and feel

1114
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,920
no connection to. So what do you how do you

1115
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,119
guys feel about my take on that?

1116
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:05,599
Speaker 3: Is?

1117
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 4: It?

1118
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:08,239
Speaker 1: Is? It not based, Is it not based enough? Is

1119
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,599
it stupid? What do you guys think?

1120
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: But it's interesting I was thinking today about like my

1121
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:17,719
libertarian prior is my anarcho capitalist priors? And you know,

1122
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,960
one of the things that you're taught is that like

1123
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,239
nobody can be trusted with power. They say, oh, we

1124
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,199
got to end the government because no one should have

1125
01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:31,400
that power, which just goes to my theory that libertarianism

1126
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,400
is just a bastardization of Christianity, because that basically is like,

1127
01:02:36,239 --> 01:02:39,599
you know, original sin. Everyone has original sin, but you

1128
01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:42,639
don't have Christ. It's Christianity without Christ because there's no

1129
01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:47,679
one to come in and to you know, to forgive

1130
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:50,719
the sins so that you can have a civilization. So

1131
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,760
you have to You're laying your cards down on the

1132
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,599
table and saying, look, this is what we have to do.

1133
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,079
We have to get rid of the state, and then

1134
01:02:58,159 --> 01:03:01,639
everybody will be forced to deal with each other. And

1135
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:04,519
it's like, well, that's not how this works. If you're

1136
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,039
telling me that, Like, I don't want to live in

1137
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:11,800
a world where nobody can be trusted with power. The

1138
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:16,840
problem is is that they've designed a system, the managerial state.

1139
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,880
The way it's designed with a New Deal regime, and

1140
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:26,159
especially through the moralization of the Nuremberg regime, that you

1141
01:03:26,199 --> 01:03:29,719
don't know who's in charge. You have a complete decentralized government.

1142
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,239
There's five hundred and thirty five people who five hundred

1143
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,239
and thirty four seems to be bought by a foreign

1144
01:03:35,599 --> 01:03:37,559
by a foreign country. I might even call them a

1145
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,360
foreign power because all their power they have they have

1146
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,119
through by stealing from us, and they can be bought.

1147
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,400
But the reason that can happen is that those are

1148
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:53,519
just those people are just out there making decisions, but

1149
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:58,039
they're being influenced by the government's actually being run by

1150
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:04,800
unelected bureaucrat. And what's the solution to that? You know,

1151
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,119
it's like Thomas says. Thomas says, you don't need to

1152
01:04:08,159 --> 01:04:13,360
make America one ten. You just have to the system

1153
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:18,159
is designed so that they can exercise power from the outside.

1154
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,920
You just have to make the system. Revert the system

1155
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,639
back to the way it was. So they can't because

1156
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,199
before that, before World War One, when they destroyed basically

1157
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:33,280
anybody wanting to the idea of monarchy and one man rule,

1158
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,199
they had the ear of power, but they didn't have power. Well,

1159
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,480
now they have power, and we just went through the law.

1160
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:43,760
We just went through a century where basically three hundred

1161
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:49,239
million people were murdered by wars they started or by regimes,

1162
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:54,880
by regimes that they propped up and inspired. So we

1163
01:04:55,000 --> 01:05:00,119
need a we need to dismantle this managerial system. I've

1164
01:05:00,159 --> 01:05:02,639
heard some people out there who are vying for power

1165
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,679
or vying for the ear of power, who are talking

1166
01:05:05,719 --> 01:05:08,159
about that. Don't know that they I don't know you

1167
01:05:08,199 --> 01:05:10,280
can trust them. I don't know. We want to, you know,

1168
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:13,960
because who knows. We're in such a low trust society

1169
01:05:14,039 --> 01:05:16,760
that how do you trust somebody who's saying that that's

1170
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,320
what they want to do. So elect me and I'll

1171
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,800
do that, especially since you know they'll probably just get

1172
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,800
in there and they'll show them the tape of you know,

1173
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,119
Kennedy getting his head blown off from a different direction

1174
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,519
but oh okay, or they'll just show them pictures where

1175
01:05:31,559 --> 01:05:34,800
their family sleeps or something like that, Which is why

1176
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,480
you know, someone like you know, you wish that Trump

1177
01:05:38,719 --> 01:05:42,400
was that guy, because you know, he really has nothing

1178
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,159
to lose at this point, and it would be great

1179
01:05:46,199 --> 01:05:50,239
if he was our you know, Francisco Franco or you

1180
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:56,800
know our you know Pinochet, but the system, the managerial state,

1181
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needs to be demolished and we need to go back

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to the way things were run for one hundred and

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twenty five years in this country before World War One

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01:06:05,639 --> 01:06:10,199
started just tearing everything down and they started exerting all

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their influence over the government.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, I'm not an American, but from my point of view,

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if Trump just stops twenty thirty and cripples the power

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of the UN, that will be a massive w for

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01:06:22,159 --> 01:06:25,960
the entire planet. Just if he gets in, the whole

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twenty thirty thing is basically off. I mean, they'll probably say, oh,

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01:06:29,199 --> 01:06:32,360
we're going to do twenty forty now. But if Trump

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01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,719
actually gets the US economy going lower's energy prices and

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01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,000
was kind of other stuff, all the other Western countries.

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Speaker 6: Are going to be like, wait, wait, why can't we

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01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,039
do that? And you know the.

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Speaker 5: Government will be like no, no, no, no, no, no,

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we can't. You know, we can't do that. It's racist,

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don't you know. It's like Trump. But you know, the

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never underestimate the effect of a good example on everyone

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else that's trying to do bad things.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be It's going to be interesting. Although

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I hope. You know for all my Mira bros.

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Speaker 5: That Trump Trump wins in he significantly improves your country,

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but he will also have a knock on effect on

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the entire West.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it's quite possible. Yeah, all right, well, gentlemen,

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that was good. We have some paid chats to get to.

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01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:16,559
Let's get to those before we move to the next dragon.

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Assuming you guys are done, anybody else have anything important

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to say.

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Speaker 3: Or can we move on? All right?

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01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,199
Speaker 1: We will move on. Over on cash app we have

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Jason Kunna, the no White Guilt guy, and for ten

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US dollars. Thank you so much, Jason, I deeply appreciate it, friend,

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01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,880
He says, you are a force of nature fulk tithe

1216
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,519
and Kip. Well, I appreciate that, Jason. You're very kind

1217
01:07:38,519 --> 01:07:39,760
to me. I think I thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Over on Entropy, we have three US dollars from Eh.

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01:07:46,199 --> 01:07:48,599
I recognize that username, but I don't remember who you are.

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01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,480
For three US dollars, he says, Hunger, great chat this evening.

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01:07:53,719 --> 01:07:54,079
Speaker 3: Pete.

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01:07:54,199 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: I love you, fella. I'm eating a potato pancake for

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you right now. I know who that is, Pete.

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Speaker 3: Pete, I don't know who that is, but potato pancakes.

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01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,639
But potato pancakes are great potato.

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01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I muted for

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01:08:15,639 --> 01:08:17,560
a second. Yeah, I know, I know who that is.

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But yeah, he's speaking. He's speaking on my Polish side

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right now. Is like, now I want potato pancakes, and

1231
01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:27,119
just the only way to potato pancakes is just put

1232
01:08:27,119 --> 01:08:28,920
it in your hand and take a slab of sour

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,079
cream and then roll it up like a like a

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freaking canoli.

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Speaker 6: Stop.

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01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: Potato pancakes and sour cream. That's that's the real ship

1237
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,199
right there. That's that's East European glory. That's good stuff.

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01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,359
Speaker 4: I've never had that. We don't really have any polex

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around here.

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Speaker 5: You miss l That's one of the best things about

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01:08:49,079 --> 01:08:50,760
in Europe is potato pancakes.

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Speaker 6: They kick ass.

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01:08:53,319 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: Well, oops, wrong button. We just did the Black Dragon,

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01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,920
which means we only have two left. We have a

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01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,359
basket of garbage from the red and f's for Fred

1246
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:07,600
and peanut Pequan. One is you are the party leader.

1247
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,159
Do you want to pick the next topic or have

1248
01:09:09,199 --> 01:09:10,560
a party member do the next topic?

1249
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: Hunger? Why don't you pick the next tar? Next target.

1250
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,079
Speaker 3: Let's have fun. Let's do basket of garbage. Okay.

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: Moving over to New York Post, Biden brands Trump supporters garbage,

1252
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:29,960
sparking fury among Republicans as White House tries to cover

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01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:32,600
for him. I so most of you have already heard

1254
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,239
of this daring. I'll just read it real quick. President

1255
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:40,640
Biden branded Donald Donald Trump supporters garbage on Tuesday, at

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the same time as his Vice president and successor, Kamala

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01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,119
Harris tried to pitt herself at the Democratic Party as

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01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:50,039
unifiers and truth challenged closing appeal to voters. The eighty

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01:09:50,039 --> 01:09:53,159
one year old sitting duck president, who has largely been

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01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:57,039
sidelined from campaigning for Harris, delivered the shocking insult as

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he railed against Kill Tony podcast host Tony Hinchcliff's bit

1262
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during Trump's Sunday night rally. During English, the comedian called

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01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:09,319
Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. The only garbage

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01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,520
I see out there is his supporters. Ho ho ho.

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01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:17,119
All right, that's enough of that. We don't need to

1266
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:20,319
read anymore. With that, Let's go ahead and move to

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01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,600
the Red Dragon, which is this badass bella Coast dragon.

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01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 3: Here.

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: I know iv In the Horrible and Chat will like

1270
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,279
this dragon. He likes my Bello Coast dragons all right.

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The Red with us tonight was once known as a

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01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,199
sky Tyrant, a mighty red dragon warrior who commands other

1273
01:10:37,279 --> 01:10:40,399
dragons in the flying war machines of the Empire. He

1274
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,359
served the Empire's battle forces for four hundred years before

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01:10:43,359 --> 01:10:47,000
retiring to be an honored ambassador for his clan. He

1276
01:10:47,079 --> 01:10:50,079
keeps a sharp eye on Earth, and he's learned a

1277
01:10:50,079 --> 01:10:52,439
lot about us in the last few decades. His question

1278
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,359
tonight is about the odd social warfare that we wage.

1279
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,000
Hunger Merchant, this question comes to you first, my friend.

1280
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,199
How effective is the labeling of political enemies with negative

1281
01:11:03,279 --> 01:11:06,880
terms like deplorable or garbage? Do you believe it's a

1282
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,960
tactic which will work for our side of the war.

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01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 3: I believe because the left can't meme, and because these

1284
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:23,960
are humorless, humorless cat ladies and boomers, they have no

1285
01:11:24,079 --> 01:11:25,960
they have no idea what they're doing. I mean, it's

1286
01:11:26,079 --> 01:11:29,439
it's backfired every single time they've done it. Everyone remembers

1287
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:36,199
the deplorables, in Biden's case, specifically, I refuse, I refuse,

1288
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,800
I genuinely believe Biden is working for Trump from behind,

1289
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,680
from behind enemy lines. So he's just helping out his

1290
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,960
good friend Don in the election to take out you

1291
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:55,000
know that. Yeah, the help, but uh do it do

1292
01:11:55,039 --> 01:11:57,039
I believe this this tactical work for our site. It's

1293
01:11:57,119 --> 01:12:00,560
very it's very powerful to to label your enemies. It's

1294
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,039
very powerful to libel your enemies. A lot of I

1295
01:12:03,079 --> 01:12:06,960
mean there's a lot of historical examples of that. I

1296
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,399
mean famously the Nazis were branded by their enemies as Nazis.

1297
01:12:11,159 --> 01:12:16,479
But it works for our side because we turn because

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01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,760
we are the side of truth and humor. We have

1299
01:12:21,039 --> 01:12:23,800
we have Tony freaking Hitchcliff on our side as well,

1300
01:12:24,199 --> 01:12:26,319
so we have all we have all the best comedians

1301
01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:31,640
and very powerful. Yeah, it's it's the humor is powerful.

1302
01:12:32,279 --> 01:12:35,199
When you take your enemy's label and turn it into

1303
01:12:35,279 --> 01:12:39,159
a positive that that's actual, real power. And so that's

1304
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:40,920
why the left camp meet it just it just never

1305
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:41,800
works for their side.

1306
01:12:43,039 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: And also, I mean I do think words are powerful,

1307
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:51,439
Like like we weren't conquered and and turned into these

1308
01:12:52,359 --> 01:12:57,600
self loathing, white guilted consumer drones with with terrorism and

1309
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,479
bombs and guns. It was words, and id is that

1310
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,359
that warped us and made us this way?

1311
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 2: No?

1312
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 3: Well said, so who wants to take this question next?

1313
01:13:10,359 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean when you see something that really, if

1314
01:13:17,159 --> 01:13:21,800
I'm autistic about anything, it's about people using political labels wrong.

1315
01:13:23,039 --> 01:13:26,920
Like when people say that Kamala Harris is Kamala Harris

1316
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:33,560
is a Marxist. Really, that's insulting Marxists. Marxians were some bad,

1317
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:38,199
bad ass pipe pitters, you know who would yeah, personally

1318
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:43,800
put bullets in like hundreds and thousands of people. She's

1319
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,840
just a tool of a foreign She's just another tool

1320
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:47,920
of a foreign power.

1321
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,079
Speaker 3: So she's just a tool period.

1322
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, so I just want people say what,

1323
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,960
figure out what someone is and say it and if

1324
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:03,159
they are, I mean, yep, there it's hard to come

1325
01:14:03,239 --> 01:14:06,439
up with a good term for like, oh, you're owned

1326
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,199
by a foreign power, but that's what it is. I mean,

1327
01:14:09,399 --> 01:14:11,439
the Left wants to play these games where they just

1328
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,800
pick out a stupid word and use it against their

1329
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,560
enemy and then you know, their enemy, their enemy just

1330
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:23,640
adopts it for themselves and it's just dumb. They don't know.

1331
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,880
You say, definitely, the left can't mean because they are

1332
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,960
trying to meme when they do that, but it I

1333
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,600
don't even know how useful this useful it is anymore.

1334
01:14:39,119 --> 01:14:42,319
It's just basically, I mean, we're in the Schmidt, We're

1335
01:14:42,319 --> 01:14:47,279
into Schmidt territory. It's friend enemy, it's a dialectic and

1336
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,239
that's that's where we are. And just the way I

1337
01:14:51,279 --> 01:14:52,680
look at it, there are a lot of people who

1338
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,479
call themselves right wing who I considered be enemies, and

1339
01:14:56,520 --> 01:15:00,439
I consider myself to be right wing, although so many

1340
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,960
people would be like, well, no, you if you believe

1341
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:04,880
in the state, that just means you're left wing and

1342
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:10,640
that's just libertarian, artistic nonsense, yeah, nonsense words, you know.

1343
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, I really don't care about the terms left

1344
01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:16,479
and right at all, Pete. I just care what's right.

1345
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,159
I care what's true, and I care what's good for

1346
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:22,600
my people. I guess that makes me about as far

1347
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,359
right as you can get though by that metric.

1348
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: But I just know that that makes you woke right,

1349
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,199
you know, according according to.

1350
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 1: Something Oh no, no, no, don't bring that crack up.

1351
01:15:34,319 --> 01:15:35,239
Speaker 6: I would just agree with.

1352
01:15:35,279 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 3: You that talk about talking about something that doesn't.

1353
01:15:37,319 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 5: Style it being a Marxist broken crown. Every Bolshevik or

1354
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:47,399
Stalinist pipe hitter. There are a hundred sort of low

1355
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:52,560
information Marxists that just sort of cling to the basic

1356
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,239
summaries of it without really understanding it.

1357
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Speaker 2: But I mean, if they don't understand that they're not

1358
01:16:00,119 --> 01:16:03,000
not a Marxist, it's like someone calling themselves It's like

1359
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,279
someone calling themselves a fascist. Who when you mentioned, you know,

1360
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like Giovanni Gentila, They're like who, So, well you then

1361
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,000
you don't know what fascism is?

1362
01:16:14,279 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then you essentially leave out anyone who is

1363
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,399
an intellectual is the problem. And these are both mass movements,

1364
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,279
so by definition, right, they need to have a mass component.

1365
01:16:24,399 --> 01:16:27,520
So how do you refer to the mass component knowing

1366
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that they are not going.

1367
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Speaker 7: To understand the you know, intricacies I'm going to call

1368
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,800
I'm not going to call some Russian who was on

1369
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:40,760
some Russian who was on the Eastern Front fighting, you know, fighting.

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Speaker 2: The the National Socialist invasion a Marxist because he's out

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01:16:45,039 --> 01:16:49,279
there fight. Yeah, I just I refuse, I refuse to

1372
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:50,960
do that.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point.

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Speaker 6: I think that labeling can be extremely effective if it's

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01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:57,520
done right.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think mark means any Marxist doesn't mean

1377
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,960
anything any more than fascist means anything anymore. Nobody knows

1378
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:09,319
what those terms mean. I mean, it's just all it is.

1379
01:17:09,359 --> 01:17:12,880
It's like I mean, they call I remember talking to

1380
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some fucking boomer in twenty twenty who I told them.

1381
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,279
I said, Joe Biden is like center, He's center left,

1382
01:17:20,279 --> 01:17:20,640
it's all.

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Speaker 4: He's like, no.

1384
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Speaker 2: No, yeah. I'm like he's like, no, he's a communist.

1385
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,399
I'm like, when has he ever called for the season

1386
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,199
and the means of production, you stupid fucking boomer.

1387
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Speaker 4: He's also like rejected being called a socialist of during

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his campaign in twenty.

1389
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Speaker 1: Well, because he's not. Like, it's just it's just objectively

1390
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,920
false to call like this is why in some of

1391
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the I know, I haven't written a lot from my substack,

1392
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,640
but in some of my writings on substack, I talk

1393
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,880
about this, how it's ineffective and useless to try to

1394
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,560
label our political enemies or cultural enemies. Is like Marxists

1395
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,439
or Nazis or communists or whatever those words meant something

1396
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,560
once upon a time. Now it's just mud slinging words

1397
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,399
that have no real connection or meaning in people's minds

1398
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,079
other than what they think that it is from comic

1399
01:18:10,119 --> 01:18:14,479
books and movies and crap whatever the talkie boxmas think.

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Speaker 2: Thomas seven seven seven makes a really good point. There

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01:18:18,319 --> 01:18:21,520
is no third way in the United States. There is

1402
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,000
no third way in the West. You're either a globalist

1403
01:18:24,079 --> 01:18:27,640
or you're an anti globalist. That's it. That's the dialectic.

1404
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,920
You're either anti globalist or your globalist. And free marketeers

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01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:38,239
they're globalists. They're I mean they you cannot have free

1406
01:18:38,279 --> 01:18:42,119
trade with the world and not be a globalist because

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01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,600
then you're gonna have to make the art because a

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01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,439
big part of that is labor, and you want the

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01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,600
cheapest labor. So what are the arguments you're gonna make.

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,359
You're gonna make well. And we need all the legal

1411
01:18:53,359 --> 01:18:56,039
immigration that we can get to bring these sixty five

1412
01:18:56,119 --> 01:18:58,760
IQ fucking fruit pickers over here that are going to

1413
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:04,199
fuck everything up. Yep, there's globalist, there's there's anti globalist.

1414
01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:05,920
There's no third position.

1415
01:19:07,359 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the things that that reminds me

1416
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,039
of one of my first conversations with old Karl Benjamin

1417
01:19:13,039 --> 01:19:15,840
Sargonova Cod many years ago, back in the Facebook days

1418
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,119
of the liberalists. I made a point that left versus

1419
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:22,239
right doesn't matter. Labor and tories don't matter. The real

1420
01:19:22,319 --> 01:19:26,039
dichotomy between people, whether it's a corporate guy or a

1421
01:19:26,039 --> 01:19:28,600
politician or just a regular guy who owns a small

1422
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,800
business or works for a small business, you're you are

1423
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,479
either for your local people and your country first, or

1424
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:39,640
you're of this globalist way of thinking. That's really the

1425
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,640
only dichotomy. That's really the only distinction, And that's why

1426
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,520
I like to go free method. It paints everything in

1427
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:49,119
this nice dialectic dichotomy of terms where you're either for

1428
01:19:49,239 --> 01:19:52,600
us or you're not for us. And that's really the

1429
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,840
dichotomy that matters, not left versus right or national socialist

1430
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:56,880
or communist or whatever.

1431
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, any let's talk about Marxism and you think, hmm,

1432
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:07,119
what is the synthesis of globalism and anti globalism?

1433
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 6: What regionalism?

1434
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, but that's a good answer.

1435
01:20:16,279 --> 01:20:20,079
Speaker 5: So like so to answer the dragon's question anyway. Yeah, Look,

1436
01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:26,359
labeling can be very very effective. This I think Sololensky

1437
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,560
said it better. This is why I would try and

1438
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,720
to find, you know, something like Marxism as a in

1439
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:38,800
a value free way, as a set of political tactics.

1440
01:20:38,359 --> 01:20:41,119
Speaker 6: That can really be used by anyone. You know, what

1441
01:20:41,359 --> 01:20:41,479
is it?

1442
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: You said?

1443
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 5: You name your target, freeze it, and isolate it, right,

1444
01:20:45,119 --> 01:20:49,640
so you So naming is part of that process where you.

1445
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 6: Associate like a certain thing or behavior, preferably a sort of.

1446
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 5: Necessary part of your opponent's political worldview, as a certain

1447
01:21:01,279 --> 01:21:05,640
negative thing, and then, you know, get them to relentlessly

1448
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,399
defend it. And if it's something that cannot be defended

1449
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,880
or is something that is sort of unallowable in the

1450
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:15,960
current thought regime, all the better.

1451
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 6: You waste your opponent's time getting them to constantly explain this.

1452
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:23,399
Speaker 5: Racist is a really, really good example of this that

1453
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,600
the left uses, you know what I mean, because it's

1454
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,199
now come to encompass basically, you know, any kind of

1455
01:21:30,319 --> 01:21:33,319
soft nationalism, being against mass immigration, all these kinds of things.

1456
01:21:34,159 --> 01:21:36,319
Speaker 6: You can make your enemy sort of run around.

1457
01:21:36,119 --> 01:21:38,399
Speaker 5: In circles by just going, oh, I'm not a racist,

1458
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,479
I'm not racist, I'm not racist. And why they're doing that,

1459
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,840
They're not getting their ideas out there. It puts them

1460
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:48,119
on the defensive. Yeah, I think I think it's it's

1461
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:51,680
bound to work. Humans and narrative beings and the way

1462
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,359
that people sort of construct the political world generally speaking,

1463
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:59,359
is through narratives, and the more low information the person,

1464
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,600
the more simple all these narratives, which is why you

1465
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,039
know things like you know, Joe Biden as a communist,

1466
01:22:05,079 --> 01:22:08,439
for example, is popular. You know, person I don't like

1467
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,319
is bad thing a big shook, right like that happens,

1468
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,279
That happens all the time. Yeah, I think, but you know,

1469
01:22:15,319 --> 01:22:17,720
I think you can do it too far. I'm seeing

1470
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,640
this thing in the US selection. It's making me wonder.

1471
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,199
So as a story came out that the UK Labor

1472
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:26,439
Party it sent a bunch of political advisors over to

1473
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:31,159
Kamala's campaign to try and get them to replicate the

1474
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:35,279
victory that they had with kirs Starmer. I don't know

1475
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:39,159
why they thought this would work. Kirstarm was only voted

1476
01:22:39,159 --> 01:22:43,920
in because everyone hated the incumbent so much. And I mean,

1477
01:22:44,039 --> 01:22:47,279
I don't know whether anyway, but one of the tactics

1478
01:22:47,319 --> 01:22:50,840
that Labor was sort of known for using, and also

1479
01:22:51,039 --> 01:22:53,800
failed massively under Jeremy Corbyn, by the way, was just

1480
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,439
guilt tripping people into voting. And I have seen a

1481
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,039
massive slew of these kinds of like things recently in

1482
01:22:59,119 --> 01:23:00,720
the past couple of weeks. It seems to be the

1483
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,680
only message that the Harris campaign has left apart from

1484
01:23:04,239 --> 01:23:06,720
you know, Trump is mustache man and Trump will destroy

1485
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,199
the world. You know, you're a bad person if you

1486
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,800
don't vote. You know, you can vote secretly. You don't

1487
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,600
have to tell your friends, like, don't worry about the

1488
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:20,279
social pressure. So yeah, you've got You've got to be careful.

1489
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:21,840
If you use it too much, you can backfind you.

1490
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,119
Speaker 1: All right, anyone else I want to take this one

1491
01:23:26,119 --> 01:23:27,039
and have something to say on it.

1492
01:23:28,039 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 4: A big shook. I'm literally vibrating here. I think that, Yeah,

1493
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,520
the whole thing with labeling the political enemies, it's genuinely

1494
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,840
really effective with people who already agree with the label.

1495
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,920
I think Trump has mastered this with me coming up

1496
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,399
with all the silly names and whatnot and and reclaiming

1497
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,680
the names that are used against his people. Like news says,

1498
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,359
you've got to do it the right way. You got

1499
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,479
to you got to have an instinct for it. You

1500
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:02,880
have to, you know, have the zegeist for it. I think,

1501
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:07,079
you know, meetball Ron is a great name, right, isn't it?

1502
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,960
It really works? And I think turning around deplorables in

1503
01:24:12,039 --> 01:24:14,720
our little basket of deplorables, Yeah, I'm a bad Yeah,

1504
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,079
I'm a deplorable What of it? What do you want if?

1505
01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:20,159
If you think I'm a deplorable, Yeah, I'm deplorable because

1506
01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:24,800
nobody should should respect you, Nobody should should see your

1507
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,760
judgment as reliable, and no one should treat you with respect.

1508
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,520
Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve any any of that from anyone.

1509
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:35,560
And although that's not gonna work within their circles, it's

1510
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:39,079
certainly going to stick and give us unity. It's not

1511
01:24:39,159 --> 01:24:41,319
about it's it's one of those things that's not about

1512
01:24:41,319 --> 01:24:45,079
reaching outside. It's not outreach. It's about hardening the base.

1513
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: I think.

1514
01:24:46,399 --> 01:24:49,079
Speaker 4: I think that's when it works. You can't use it

1515
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,359
towards your enemies, because your enemies will rejected. It'll just

1516
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,920
be an inside joke at most. That could again be banter.

1517
01:24:56,079 --> 01:24:59,159
That's good within your own group, but it tends to

1518
01:24:59,279 --> 01:25:02,560
not be good for outreach because you can't call your

1519
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,640
enemies a bunch of You can't use at home with

1520
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,640
your enemies. You could use them, you know, for your enemies,

1521
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,920
because you don't expect to work with your enemies even slightly.

1522
01:25:11,039 --> 01:25:14,560
But the independence it might take them off. It's why

1523
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,279
I don't I tend to not resort to it whenever

1524
01:25:17,359 --> 01:25:20,079
I'm talking to someone I don't immediately agree with, because

1525
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,840
you know, being respectful to such people might bring them

1526
01:25:23,079 --> 01:25:25,600
over to my side or might radicalize them in the

1527
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,199
other direction. It's just not a good way to.

1528
01:25:28,199 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 1: Treat people who you actually respect. Agreed.

1529
01:25:35,359 --> 01:25:39,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, anything else contribute?

1530
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's fine, No, it's fine, anything else from anybody.

1531
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 2: I'm I'm ALTI well, I'd just like to call people assholes.

1532
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,079
Speaker 3: It is satisfying, isn't it very satiny? But I just

1533
01:25:52,119 --> 01:25:54,479
wanted to add, sorry, is I do have to balance

1534
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,079
in a little bit. I have OGC chapter business to

1535
01:25:57,119 --> 01:25:57,520
take care of.

1536
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:58,079
Speaker 2: It's a little bit.

1537
01:25:58,119 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 3: It's a little bit earlier. I do have to bounce though,

1538
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:00,920
before you go real quick.

1539
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,399
Speaker 1: Then let me do these paid chats because they might

1540
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:05,960
be for you. Because I saw three more come in

1541
01:26:06,039 --> 01:26:08,800
from Eh. Let me read these from fantastic. Thank you,

1542
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,720
EH for all of these wonderful donations. I appreciate it

1543
01:26:12,359 --> 01:26:14,439
for three dollars, He says, Hunger, I just talked to

1544
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,840
you for like forty five minutes, and then.

1545
01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: Says he doesn't mind. It's eric. Yeah, yeah, oh that's great.

1546
01:26:23,239 --> 01:26:27,159
Speaker 1: Okay, Eh says for three dollars. Again, my ken in

1547
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,439
the North were piled by pills and replied by pills

1548
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:33,920
in despair. These d industrialized areas that are now being

1549
01:26:34,119 --> 01:26:38,199
repopulated by foreigners, it's all just natural. It's all happening

1550
01:26:38,239 --> 01:26:39,079
in a vacuum. Guys.

1551
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:43,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in Pennsylvania. He's in Pennsylvania. That's where my

1552
01:26:44,279 --> 01:26:47,640
mom's family is from Western PA. And yeah, it's just

1553
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:53,640
all getting infested by I mean Haitians and like Charloroi Pennsylvania. Yeah,

1554
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,199
but I mean, if you ask Eric, it's a hell

1555
01:26:56,199 --> 01:26:57,840
of a lot of fucking Pajeets too.

1556
01:26:58,359 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 1: Yep, there's a whitewell being. Guy I talk to who's

1557
01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:03,359
who is from and I don't know if he still

1558
01:27:03,359 --> 01:27:05,039
lives there or not, but I know that his hometown's

1559
01:27:05,079 --> 01:27:08,000
in Northern PA. And he said it's just been wide

1560
01:27:08,039 --> 01:27:11,239
erased like during his lifetime, like it went from a nice, quiet,

1561
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,000
you know, little Christian white town in Pennsylvania to everybody

1562
01:27:15,079 --> 01:27:18,239
worth a crap moving out because someone keeps pumping in

1563
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:22,239
African and Hasian and Asian foreigners and just floods through town.

1564
01:27:22,399 --> 01:27:25,000
And now it's just an absolute crap hole that everybody

1565
01:27:25,079 --> 01:27:28,560
worked that everybody who could lift, and it's just Springfield.

1566
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: Springfield, Ohio is no longer an American city. I mean,

1567
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:37,880
unless they unless they send all of those Haitians out

1568
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:39,960
of there, unless they rip them out of there and

1569
01:27:40,039 --> 01:27:44,000
send them send them back, that's it's just port out

1570
01:27:44,039 --> 01:27:49,119
Prince in Ohio. I mean, that's what it is. I've

1571
01:27:49,119 --> 01:27:52,279
heard is Tenny. Someone told me they said that there

1572
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,680
there's not twenty thousand, there's thirty thousand there and all

1573
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:56,640
the women are pregnant.

1574
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 1: Wow, yep, that's they do last one before, last one

1575
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,600
before Hunger goes in case. It's for in case Eric

1576
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,000
has something to say to you. He says, for ten

1577
01:28:06,119 --> 01:28:07,239
US dollars, Thank you so much.

1578
01:28:07,359 --> 01:28:07,520
Speaker 2: Eric.

1579
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,239
Speaker 1: The leftist idea in this country, in America is we

1580
01:28:11,359 --> 01:28:14,439
are just fungible units, malleable units. There are no differences

1581
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:18,079
between people. That's their obstensable idea. When you scratch the surface,

1582
01:28:18,159 --> 01:28:22,239
you know that it's more sinister. Yeah, I agree, Hunger Merchant,

1583
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,800
thank you for being here, my friend. I hope you

1584
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,520
and the OGC gang has a great knight.

1585
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 3: Have a great night and send those a best always

1586
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:31,359
a pleasure, guys, Have a great night.

1587
01:28:31,319 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: Teck and take no tomorrow. See take your hunger. Best

1588
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,000
guys from that area.

1589
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 3: Hey you guys, have a good night.

1590
01:28:43,239 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Good night hunger. See like everybuddy. All right, and oh,

1591
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,640
we just had something else coming on entropy, Thank you

1592
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:53,119
so much. Stumbling for three dollars says the Brown Dragon

1593
01:28:53,239 --> 01:28:56,560
asks are people getting dumber? If so, is this caused

1594
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,319
by genetics or a combination of drug stibulus and jump food.

1595
01:29:01,399 --> 01:29:04,840
Interesting that you chose Brown Dragon for that one. And no,

1596
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,479
obviously we like Chris and I even covered some of

1597
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,279
this stuff on DD before, and we even did an

1598
01:29:11,319 --> 01:29:14,640
empire of lies about parasites and stuff. I do think

1599
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:16,760
the things that are in us, and the chemicals in us,

1600
01:29:17,359 --> 01:29:19,560
it does contribute to some of the problems that we

1601
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,319
have these days. I do think that. All right, let

1602
01:29:22,359 --> 01:29:24,239
me refresh the other places. Since that took a while.

1603
01:29:24,319 --> 01:29:27,079
Let me make sure I'm not leaving anybody's paid chats

1604
01:29:27,119 --> 01:29:32,079
oot and it didn't think so. All right, now we

1605
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:35,479
are clear to move on. Unless I missed one on

1606
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,960
Rumble sometimes that chat moves quick. Let me scroll up

1607
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,800
and make sure didn't miss a Rumble ramp. Oh No,

1608
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:44,079
I did art and party art and party for two

1609
01:29:44,199 --> 01:29:48,560
Canadian dollars. Thank you, Ardent party two Canadian have two

1610
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,520
Canadian dollars for introducing me to the idea of potato pancakes.

1611
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:55,000
That must have been from earlier. I'm sorry I missed

1612
01:29:55,039 --> 01:30:00,720
that earlier art My bad. All right, let's bring back

1613
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:05,479
up the topics then, And I believe that means we

1614
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,319
only have the one left because we just did basket

1615
01:30:08,359 --> 01:30:11,439
of garbage, which of course means we have f's in

1616
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,640
the chat for Fred and Peanut. And I'm sure that

1617
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,960
everybody knows what this is going to be about, Pete.

1618
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,119
Do you want to be the first one to answer

1619
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:19,640
the question or would you like to pick someone else

1620
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:20,399
to answer that question?

1621
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: Oh, let's get news Fest to do it, all right.

1622
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,039
Speaker 1: News Fist, my man, you get to go first.

1623
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,119
Speaker 6: Uh wait, so when do we went left?

1624
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 4: No?

1625
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: No, we only have the f's for Fred and Peanut.

1626
01:30:31,039 --> 01:30:32,199
That's why I just went right.

1627
01:30:32,119 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 6: To it, all right, Yes, yeah, I'll take that one.

1628
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:35,479
Then ten points.

1629
01:30:37,119 --> 01:30:39,600
Speaker 1: Fans of Peanut the squirrel raise over one hundred and

1630
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,880
fifty grand after beloved pet was euthanized by NY State

1631
01:30:44,119 --> 01:30:47,600
Justice for Peanut. Now, in case no one listening has

1632
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,279
heard of the explosive meme that has been everywhere all

1633
01:30:50,319 --> 01:30:53,960
over the internet since yesterday. This cute little guy right

1634
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,199
here is a TikTok star, or was, I should say,

1635
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:02,359
And where's the picture of the dude this dude and

1636
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:07,239
his wife are. They were using cute little TikTok animals

1637
01:31:07,399 --> 01:31:10,079
and their rescue animals to raise money to have like

1638
01:31:10,119 --> 01:31:14,600
a wildlife range type of thing, and some negative nancy

1639
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,479
called in some kind of threat and without their knowledge,

1640
01:31:20,199 --> 01:31:24,159
these people had a raid on their property and they

1641
01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:28,680
were basically held by state officials for five hours while

1642
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,319
a bunch of fed goons went through their entire property

1643
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,680
looking for a raccoon named Fred and a squirrel named Peanut.

1644
01:31:37,159 --> 01:31:40,720
I don't have a picture up of Fred, but there

1645
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,520
was a raccoon named Fred in the story too. And

1646
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:49,039
they were taken by the federal authorities and instead of

1647
01:31:49,239 --> 01:31:51,560
and they said that they had to test them for rabies.

1648
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:53,720
Well they didn't just put them in a cage and

1649
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:58,039
observe them. No, the Feds, the dirty ass, evil, anti

1650
01:31:58,119 --> 01:32:03,960
white scumbag Feds, killed the squirrel Peanut and the raccoon

1651
01:32:04,079 --> 01:32:08,359
Fred and dissected their brains to test for rabies instead

1652
01:32:08,359 --> 01:32:10,199
of just observing them for a week in a cage,

1653
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,479
and that I find to be absolutely despicable and evil,

1654
01:32:16,039 --> 01:32:19,439
and so I feel bad for Mark and Danniella Longo.

1655
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,479
I feel bad for them, and I feel bad just

1656
01:32:23,079 --> 01:32:23,920
in every way.

1657
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:24,640
Speaker 3: That this happened.

1658
01:32:25,039 --> 01:32:27,159
Speaker 1: So if you want to donate to them, you can

1659
01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:30,479
go find it. They have a GoFundMe and they've raised

1660
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,000
over one hundred and fifty grand now, and I do

1661
01:32:33,159 --> 01:32:35,960
believe that they plan on taking legal action against the

1662
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,359
Feds for this, so they definitely have my support. So

1663
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:42,920
let's go ahead now and move to the last dragon

1664
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,760
of the evening, which is the Green Dragon, which is

1665
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:49,119
this badass guy here, the Green with us tonight is

1666
01:32:49,239 --> 01:32:52,319
a nature guardian of an important nexus of lay energy

1667
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,800
which his clan have guarded for thousands of years. He

1668
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,239
of course appreciates the myriad creatures of nature, including humans,

1669
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,720
and does a want to see unnecessary harm come to

1670
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,520
any of us. That being said, when harm does occur,

1671
01:33:05,119 --> 01:33:07,000
it's best to make your peace with the loss and

1672
01:33:07,119 --> 01:33:10,119
use the experience as best as you can. So Newsfist,

1673
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:15,119
here's the question. Do you think cultural phenomenon like peanut

1674
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:18,399
and harambi are useful for our side? Is there real

1675
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:21,079
value in these things or is it just culture war slop.

1676
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 5: I can't speak about Harambi, that's a little before my time.

1677
01:33:27,079 --> 01:33:33,560
But Peanut, absolutely the reason why this story ignited is

1678
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,439
not because it's a squirrel, but because it's an example

1679
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:41,640
of the overbearing and overweening state, the fact that the

1680
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,560
state has far too much reach into the lives of

1681
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:50,079
ordinary citizens in and everyone. Everyone feels this in the West, right,

1682
01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:54,439
this is a relatable story. Everyone feels at the mercy

1683
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,079
of the state. Everyone feels that the state is partial

1684
01:33:58,319 --> 01:33:59,199
and capricious.

1685
01:34:00,119 --> 01:34:05,039
Speaker 6: One feels that there is no there's nothing.

1686
01:34:05,119 --> 01:34:07,359
Speaker 5: I mean this probably varies from place to place, but

1687
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:11,880
in the UK especially, there's no real feeling that anything

1688
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,840
you do is fully legal, right because if the state

1689
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:16,560
wants to get you, they're going to get They can

1690
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,800
make something up. Oh you said a bad word ten

1691
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:20,760
years ago. Ah you you know you've got this. They

1692
01:34:21,119 --> 01:34:23,800
raide your house and you know, find something right like this.

1693
01:34:24,199 --> 01:34:27,760
This is the general vibe, and people are sick of it.

1694
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,880
I mean, no one, no one really wants to live

1695
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,159
under a tyranny. I mean that that pretty much is

1696
01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:37,439
the functional definition of what a tyranny is. Right when

1697
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:41,119
you feel completely naked in front of the state, that

1698
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,039
you feel that there is there is no justice that

1699
01:34:44,159 --> 01:34:47,760
you as a citizen just you know, the state can

1700
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,720
just do whatever the hell it wants. That really is

1701
01:34:50,079 --> 01:34:54,760
is a tyranny and there is value in this. Interestingly enough,

1702
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,800
tons of people have been tweeting about an arcotyranny in

1703
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,880
relation to Peanut, have been posting we.

1704
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: Need to get the Mariam power of Live's episode on that.

1705
01:35:05,319 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 6: Yes, I've been I've been sub tweeting that at people.

1706
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:11,359
I think that.

1707
01:35:13,359 --> 01:35:20,279
Speaker 5: There's another effect as well that people are wondering again,

1708
01:35:20,319 --> 01:35:23,079
particularly in the UK, but also in the US. Uh,

1709
01:35:23,359 --> 01:35:25,479
you know what what has gone wrong? By by what

1710
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,039
rationale is the state operating? You know, most people are

1711
01:35:29,039 --> 01:35:31,800
sort of starting from this boomer assumption that you know,

1712
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,439
the the state you know, exists for the good of

1713
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:37,119
the people or some other you know, clap trap. And

1714
01:35:37,319 --> 01:35:42,479
until people are disabused of this notion, they're not really

1715
01:35:43,199 --> 01:35:46,199
going to have any way of pushing back because they

1716
01:35:46,279 --> 01:35:48,560
still believe that everything the state does, no matter how

1717
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:51,960
bad it is, is just a mistake. You're you're seeing

1718
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,159
this in the UK, the the government is about to

1719
01:35:55,680 --> 01:36:00,960
completely destroy both the food system and the energy, and

1720
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:03,960
people are going like, h how could they be so

1721
01:36:04,119 --> 01:36:06,600
stupid that it's it's not it's not stupidity.

1722
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 6: I do not believe at this point that it is stupidity.

1723
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,079
You cannot tell me that.

1724
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 5: Someone's like, oh, you know, let's light all the fields

1725
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:19,800
on fire and then be like, oh gee, I had

1726
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,079
no idea that everyone's going to start right. Either we

1727
01:36:23,279 --> 01:36:26,880
are people in government are literally functionally retarded and you know,

1728
01:36:27,399 --> 01:36:30,720
unable to complete a sentence, or they are doing this,

1729
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,039
you know, at least quasi deliberately. So yes, I think

1730
01:36:35,039 --> 01:36:40,279
there is real value in every day representations of the

1731
01:36:40,359 --> 01:36:42,800
overreach of the state. Plus you know how white people

1732
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,279
love their small furry animals, right like, you know, this

1733
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:50,000
was a particularly just white people things story, really, you know,

1734
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,159
And so yes, I think that does help us.

1735
01:36:53,239 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, all right, who's next? You'll take this one next.

1736
01:36:59,199 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 4: I think I think it's gonna be funny if this

1737
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,960
is the thing that that like wins the election in

1738
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,520
the end, Is this like the November slot for like

1739
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:12,359
the memes of the year, peanut wearing little cowboy hat?

1740
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, yeah, I reckon, Sorry, I mean I

1741
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,520
don't know it's something to start of November, mate, something

1742
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:23,560
more crazy what happened to be honest, For.

1743
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 4: All we know, it could be like some politician with

1744
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:30,119
a gun to their head, whatever random.

1745
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,319
Speaker 6: Ship politician does, like a mass shooting or something like that. Sorry,

1746
01:37:33,319 --> 01:37:34,159
I should even say that.

1747
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:39,159
Speaker 4: Jesus, I thought I was giving edgy with the suicide.

1748
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,800
Oh then again, there is that that There is that

1749
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,199
AI gen rendering. You know that that AI generation of

1750
01:37:47,359 --> 01:37:50,399
like November fifth, twenty four, and it's just tons of

1751
01:37:50,439 --> 01:38:00,840
dead people. It's horrendous and ominous. But yeah, I think

1752
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,479
it is useful. I think, like you said, Newsfist, it's

1753
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,079
it's positive because it exposes the state for what it

1754
01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:11,840
is and narco tyranny. It made people naked to the state.

1755
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:17,800
It basically they had their lives turned upside down. In

1756
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:20,920
the five hours that that they were raiding their house,

1757
01:38:21,279 --> 01:38:25,000
they were like demanding to know the wives immigration status. Right,

1758
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:29,960
I don't even understand that. It's just as much as

1759
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,640
I understand the narco tyranny. It's just like this is

1760
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,640
just this is just beyond random. I can only imagine

1761
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:36,359
they did that to just.

1762
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:40,279
Speaker 1: Further out, I have to interrupt you with a hilarious comment.

1763
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:44,439
Oh no, and it's also sad no pe Nut November.

1764
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:51,960
Oh yeah, it was pretty clever, John. That's a good one.

1765
01:38:53,199 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 4: Peanuts out for Peanut.

1766
01:38:58,039 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 2: I think the answer is both. I think it's culture

1767
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,359
warslop and has real value. Yeah, I mean it's something

1768
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:08,159
you can use, but it's it's slop, and slop is

1769
01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:10,319
fine to use. I mean, let's face it, Harambi. The

1770
01:39:10,359 --> 01:39:18,520
whole Harambi thing was slop again. But it's just anything

1771
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:22,920
that it's a narrative and to be able to have

1772
01:39:23,079 --> 01:39:25,479
something to build a narrative around that people care about.

1773
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,479
You know, when when July thirteenth happened in Trump, you

1774
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:34,640
know Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, people were like immediately immediately,

1775
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:37,079
so many people on our side were like two shooters,

1776
01:39:37,359 --> 01:39:41,279
three shooters? Was it a standdown order? I'm like, the

1777
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:46,960
narrative is the press has been talking, has been calling him, Hitler,

1778
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,439
has been calling him, and they took a shot at him.

1779
01:39:51,319 --> 01:39:53,199
If they'll take a shot at him, they'll take a

1780
01:39:53,239 --> 01:39:56,720
shot at you. That was the narrative that everyone should

1781
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:59,319
have ran with. But no, it's there's someone on the

1782
01:39:59,359 --> 01:40:01,880
WaterTower and oh look the bullet came for this way?

1783
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:04,520
Was he How could he be nineteen and not have

1784
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:08,119
any electronics down the road? You asked those questions, but

1785
01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:12,600
not at the moment. Yeah, yeah, right, the right, The

1786
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,920
right is terrible or you know, whatever you want to

1787
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,880
call it. The you know, the anti globalists are terrible

1788
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:23,560
at creating their own narratives. Well, I think we're getting

1789
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,159
I think we're getting better at that. And I think,

1790
01:40:25,239 --> 01:40:28,039
you know, narratives. You know, it was Martin was the

1791
01:40:28,079 --> 01:40:32,159
one who created the whole narrative around they're eating cats

1792
01:40:32,199 --> 01:40:35,479
and dogs and everything. Yeah, and that was just that's

1793
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:38,359
in a non on Twitter who did that? And it

1794
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,920
got it made it all the way to Trump's mouth. So,

1795
01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:45,399
I mean, that's these are the you have to look

1796
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,960
for things that are narrative building, and you know, having

1797
01:40:49,119 --> 01:40:56,920
Marc Andreessen, billionaire was was tweeting Sam Francis's article about

1798
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,880
a narco tyranny yesterday. That's the these are white pills.

1799
01:41:01,239 --> 01:41:02,840
These are things that you have to look at and

1800
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,840
you have to go, Okay, if billionaires are talking about this,

1801
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,760
if billionaires are like you know, if a billionaire is

1802
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:13,359
like if Trump that if if Trump doesn't win, Kamala

1803
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,199
is basically going to put me in jail. Like Musk said,

1804
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:17,800
I don't know if she'll put him in jail, but

1805
01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:22,760
they'll take everything from him, they'll destroy him. Yeah, you know,

1806
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,880
and he has that attitude of he's actually said, they

1807
01:41:26,039 --> 01:41:28,199
killed my son, why did you?

1808
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,560
Speaker 1: That's the right that's the right mindset by the way

1809
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:33,880
he should have that. I want him to have that mindset.

1810
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:39,039
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that you're seeing. What you're seeing in real

1811
01:41:39,119 --> 01:41:41,279
time is something that I've been tracking for about a

1812
01:41:41,399 --> 01:41:47,199
year now, is that billionaires are getting radicalized. And then

1813
01:41:47,319 --> 01:41:51,600
I have friends behind the scenes who are very, very successful,

1814
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:57,239
very wealthy, very in these groups, very intertwined with these

1815
01:41:57,399 --> 01:41:59,239
what you would call at least what we would call

1816
01:42:00,119 --> 01:42:05,159
the modern day robber barons. And they're they're sharing one

1817
01:42:05,319 --> 01:42:10,119
ten memes in their private groups. They're asking people about

1818
01:42:10,399 --> 01:42:14,319
their hedge fund managers, are contacting you a friend of

1819
01:42:14,399 --> 01:42:17,239
mine and asking him, all right, so tell me about

1820
01:42:17,239 --> 01:42:20,880
the USS liberty or asking him tell me about that

1821
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,600
thing that happened in the nineteen forties.

1822
01:42:23,039 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's let's off and go.

1823
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 2: So I think we're doing you know, I think our

1824
01:42:31,079 --> 01:42:34,159
side by putting these things out there turning him into tropes,

1825
01:42:34,199 --> 01:42:37,560
turning him into memes, turning him into it's it's in

1826
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:40,399
the zeitgeist. And once it gets into the zeitgeist of

1827
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:47,279
boomer billionaires, change can be made. Can being the operative

1828
01:42:47,319 --> 01:42:49,760
word there because they're going to fight tooth and nail

1829
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:50,840
to do whatever they can.

1830
01:42:51,079 --> 01:42:56,119
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, I want to address it.

1831
01:42:56,319 --> 01:42:58,079
Speaker 5: Go go ahead, you no, I'm just going to say

1832
01:42:58,119 --> 01:43:00,960
that that's a great point. Never undrest the room, millionaires.

1833
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:02,800
That's a bit of a white pill paint.

1834
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: Well.

1835
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 2: Also also one thing that you have to allow for.

1836
01:43:07,039 --> 01:43:08,880
And I've done this, you know. I used to be

1837
01:43:09,039 --> 01:43:12,640
a hardcore libertarian, a narhoo capitalist. On Amazon Prime right now,

1838
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,119
there is a movie that me and two of my

1839
01:43:14,199 --> 01:43:18,840
friends made, a documentary about a narho capitalism. I was

1840
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,239
that guy, and I changed my mind. I didn't change

1841
01:43:22,279 --> 01:43:24,640
my mind to grift because I lost half of my

1842
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:28,000
income when I did it, you know, so that was

1843
01:43:28,079 --> 01:43:31,279
kind of stupid. I did it because I changed my mind.

1844
01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:35,920
Boomers can change their minds. Billionaires can change their minds.

1845
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,319
Allow people to change their minds, give them a chance

1846
01:43:40,399 --> 01:43:44,600
to change their minds. And I understand the urge of

1847
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:48,960
being skeptical but give it a shot. Marc Andreessen is

1848
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:51,239
one of the most powerful people in the world, and

1849
01:43:51,319 --> 01:43:55,239
he's been sharing telling people to read James Burnham, telling

1850
01:43:55,279 --> 01:43:58,840
people to read books like The Ancient City. He's been sharing,

1851
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:04,479
share ing Sam Francis articles nice saying there are things

1852
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,520
happening behind the scenes. There are things happening that you

1853
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,760
should be white pilled about. It's not going to happen overnight.

1854
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,720
If you think it's going to happen overnight, you're restarted.

1855
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,439
But things are moving and this is this is the

1856
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,960
kind of thing. These are the kind of signals that

1857
01:44:19,039 --> 01:44:22,560
you have to look for if you're hoping to see

1858
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:26,920
things move in the direction, in the right direction. It does.

1859
01:44:27,079 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 5: It does sound a bit like a war in heaven,

1860
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,680
which is what I was speculating about this like a

1861
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:35,359
while back. You know, Yeah, a certain part of the

1862
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:40,039
moneyed elite actually splits off and becomes our guys, Like

1863
01:44:40,119 --> 01:44:41,960
it's it's going to be very very interesting. You know,

1864
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,880
there's being unanimity among the capitol class for quite a while.

1865
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,399
I mean not completely, but sort of, you know, broadly speaking.

1866
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the reasons why what you were talking

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about a minute ago, Pete That's one of the reasons

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I brought that go Free book to our conventions, and

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that's why I like to push the rhetoric of it,

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because I would love of for rich, powerful, old white

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guys to start using terms like anti whitism and anti

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white and white erasure and stuff like. Imagine how powerful

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01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,960
that would be if somebody like an Elon Musk came

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out and was like, uh, you know, this biological white

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erasure of our people because of mass migration has to stop.

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Like just imagine the power of that rhetoric if it

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would come out of the mouths of people like that.

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Speaker 2: Do you find I mean, do any of you follow

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Elon on Twitter?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's tweeted about the Great Replacement.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, he has clearly become radicalized.

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Speaker 6: Like yeah, yeah, he's taking.

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Speaker 2: Fucking South Africa.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've been very dedicated on Elon Musk. I've been telling

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people for years, like, dude, he's on the journey. He

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was a libertarian just a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting there.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be throwing up romansin and what are we

1891
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gonna do?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 1: I think I would keep my comments to myself on

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that one for now.

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Speaker 6: I Tesla bot to like walk around and throw rnes. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Did you say a video going around today of that

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little robot dog that's somebody programmed to follow people and

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call them racial celesti.

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Speaker 4: But the yellow one that's an old one too.

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Speaker 6: That's awesome and of course the women love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw that going around my circles today and

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it gave me a chuckle before we move on. I

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01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:27,760
saw a little our fox friend here she says in America,

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you can't even drink wine on a picnic. That one

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always really got me. I don't know what you're referencing

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because where I live it because remember America is a

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massive place, and public behavior and drinking and drug laws

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are different state to state, county to county. Where I live.

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You can take a cooler beer out to the park.

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Everybody can drink like you can. Like, it's completely legal

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to like carry guns and have booze as long as

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you're like not within I think what is like three

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hundred yards or four hundred yards of a church around

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01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:57,399
here or something like that, or not a church, a

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01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:01,920
church or a school like zone. Stuff on booze consumption

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and firearm and public firearms is very different. All across America.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: You're referencing exactly, but that might have just been where

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01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,520
you visited in America or where you live, because it's

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definitely not like that where I live. You just wanted

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01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:20,960
to comment on that, guys.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, where I live, where I love. If you

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01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,640
if you start yelling at someone about taking a bottle

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01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,840
of wine into the park, you're not going to make it.

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Speaker 1: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 3: It was in New York.

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Speaker 1: That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Upstate New York is usually pretty red. Yeah, but they

1929
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might have to have all them. They couldn't have wine

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on a picnic, who knows they.

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Speaker 1: I've heard from people who live outside of New York

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City in New York States say that it's because of

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the cancerous leadership of the state that makes the laws

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there suck, even though obviously people outside the city are

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more normal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, laws are made to be broken, especially that one.

1937
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Speaker 4: It just makes the people redder and redder and redder

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because they have no control over their own state, and

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then eventually leads into some sort of supermajority in the

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state legislature or something.

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Speaker 1: Hmm, let us pray that leads to something good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to get out of here in eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's just do this.

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Speaker 2: Also, also, he is I asked you a question in

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the private chat. If you're it's right above the yes.

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Speaker 1: No, oh uh no, I am not. I'm sorry. Okay,

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I would like to one one year, but this year

1948
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,039
was not the year. I can't make it. Maybe next,

1949
01:48:41,319 --> 01:48:44,760
no problem, Yeah, all right, over on injury. We'll do

1950
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these before Pete has to go. It's Eric again. He's

1951
01:48:48,119 --> 01:48:50,520
got two more. Oh, we've got Irish Christ the will

1952
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,239
being Warrior up in Canada. We'll do Irish Christ first

1953
01:48:53,319 --> 01:48:57,119
for three US dollars, he says, and anti sim uh,

1954
01:48:58,039 --> 01:49:02,039
I don't understand this, and yeah, that's right. And anti

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01:49:02,119 --> 01:49:05,079
semi is always an anti white first. Hence big Satan,

1956
01:49:05,159 --> 01:49:10,199
Little Satan. The great non white re remigration from North

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01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:15,680
America is the compassionate and moral path to take, considering everything.

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Speaker 2: He means, something that he means something different there, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well thank you for the three dollars. Uh.

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If you're saying you shouldn't hate them, you should just

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repatriate them. I agree with that, with that sentiment, I

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01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,119
am not a hater either. I don't want people to

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like ethnically cleanse or beat up random people because of

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their demographic traits in the street. I do think that's

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very wrong and you shouldn't do that. But I do

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think that repatriation of immigrants is a necessary thing that

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we should do as morally and ethically as possible.

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, Michael Jones says, let's make them Catholics.

1969
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, based uh, Eric, and again for three US

1970
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,520
dollars to so much, He says, the food system in

1971
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,920
the United States is going the same way. Taxpayers are

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01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,720
paying farmers to produce nothing. Inflation works in several ways. Yeah,

1973
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:09,800
there's a lot of messed up stuff with subsidies and

1974
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,680
farming regulations and stuff that I don't even understand, but

1975
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I've heard that it really messes things up.

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Speaker 2: Farmer for yourself. My wife, we ate so much food

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out of the backyard this year. It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Nice.

1979
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you should definitely do that, But I can't wait

1980
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for that to reverse back to paying farmers to make

1981
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:31,600
more and then you know the price is plummeting. Can't

1982
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:38,920
wait for it. American farmers, Yes, American farmers. That's the

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01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:39,760
important distinction.

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Speaker 1: Irish christ I did not mean to impugne upon you.

1985
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,520
My inability to read and understand things is not an

1986
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:49,399
insult to your grammar. You always write very well and precise.

1987
01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:52,520
I know how you are. The fault is mine, sir,

1988
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not yours. Eric, and again for fifteen dollars, thank you, buddy.

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Speaker 5: Is.

1990
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, during the COVID quote emergency Battle, ranchers

1991
01:51:04,279 --> 01:51:07,479
were being ordered to slaughter their herds. Why meat is

1992
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:10,960
a commodity? Perhaps I was saying these things as a libertarian.

1993
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Libertarians that I knew were putting the flag up. Jim

1994
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:17,159
Davidson was saying this, we were ordered to stop commerce.

1995
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Speaker 2: Well, that's yeah, that's something that Stormy Waters talks about.

1996
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He said that we were in They knew that they

1997
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,119
were going to have to print so much money to

1998
01:51:26,239 --> 01:51:29,399
get out of a sovereign debt crisis that they had

1999
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:32,560
to stop commerce. That's that was the reason for the

2000
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,279
lockdowns and everything. And that's one of the reasons why

2001
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:40,079
thick commodities like chickens and herds were so that they

2002
01:51:40,159 --> 01:51:43,560
weren't there too. More money wasn't being used to pay

2003
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:45,159
for them. There was a lot, There was a lot

2004
01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:49,399
about twenty twenty that people don't realize that. You know,

2005
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,760
that was pretty much about money. It was about the

2006
01:51:52,840 --> 01:51:56,560
sovereign debt crisis and printing trillions to send overseas to

2007
01:51:57,039 --> 01:52:00,319
bail banks out again and didn't hasn't it.

2008
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And even though I don't think it was a

2009
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,279
primary reason, it did have a benefit of destroying a

2010
01:52:06,319 --> 01:52:07,520
lot of small businesses.

2011
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, yeah, I think that was on

2012
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:12,000
purpose too.

2013
01:52:12,319 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was on purpose. But I agree

2014
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:14,960
with you. I don't think it was the main thing,

2015
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:16,720
but I do think that was also something that made

2016
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:20,159
them happy for three US dollars. Eric And again, the

2017
01:52:20,279 --> 01:52:23,119
only person that I've heard that said we were ordered

2018
01:52:23,159 --> 01:52:26,560
to stop commerce since Jim Davidson said it in twenty twenty.

2019
01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:29,319
Stormy Waters. Okay, yeah, yeah, back in there agreeing with you.

2020
01:52:30,119 --> 01:52:32,600
Speaker 2: Don't listen to Stormy. I just released two hours and

2021
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:36,359
fifteen minutes with him, and he has a very good

2022
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,239
Warhane knowledge of like tariffs and how they would work

2023
01:52:39,319 --> 01:52:41,840
and how fantastic how we could run the you know,

2024
01:52:42,079 --> 01:52:46,319
and it was a Twitter space. I apologize Twitter spaces there.

2025
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,680
The audio is not always as good, and it's hard

2026
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:51,800
for me to release those because I pride myself. I'm

2027
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:54,920
putting good audio out there, but totally interesting there and

2028
01:52:55,039 --> 01:52:55,880
you will love it. Yeah.

2029
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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, Pete. I love having you here.

2030
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:00,399
I know you have to go, but in the minute

2031
01:53:00,399 --> 01:53:02,039
you have left, why don't you tell everybody why did

2032
01:53:02,119 --> 01:53:03,399
you come? Check you out and what you have to

2033
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,319
offer on your channel? And I just shared your link

2034
01:53:05,359 --> 01:53:05,960
and all the chat.

2035
01:53:08,039 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I my show's not about anything in particular.

2036
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:14,039
Speaker 1: You know.

2037
01:53:14,079 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 2: If I want to talk about If I want to

2038
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:18,560
talk about World War Two, We're going to do twenty

2039
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,560
five episodes on World War Two. If I want to

2040
01:53:20,600 --> 01:53:25,359
talk about you know, London's State and Revolution, We're going

2041
01:53:25,399 --> 01:53:27,840
to read the whole book and talk about it on

2042
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,520
the show. If I just want to have a conversation

2043
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:33,760
with Hunger like I released last week about you know,

2044
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:38,319
politics and culture and Lebanon, That's what I'm going to do.

2045
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,880
So I think the thing is is that I use

2046
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:46,000
it as a means of learning, getting people on who

2047
01:53:46,039 --> 01:53:49,880
can teach me something, and I think a lot of

2048
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,119
people get a lot out of it by being able

2049
01:53:52,199 --> 01:53:55,720
to learn new things. Thomas and I are doing a

2050
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:01,600
series now on the left. Hegelien, Eric Hobbsbaum that most

2051
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:06,079
people don't know about. He's probably the dialectic lincenthesis of

2052
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:11,520
Ernst Nulty for the twentieth century. And you know, people

2053
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,439
are like, I can't. I didn't even know that I

2054
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:17,520
would be interested in this. So trying to do different

2055
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:21,239
things over there. I do three substacks a week, substack videos.

2056
01:54:22,079 --> 01:54:25,680
My substack is Pete substack dot com. And of course

2057
01:54:26,079 --> 01:54:28,920
I cannot leave without talking about the Old Glory Club

2058
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,119
doing amazing things. We're gonna have a stream tomorrow night,

2059
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:37,880
starting a seven thirty Eastern, just seeing what happens through

2060
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:41,560
the night, seeing if there are any meltdowns by by journalists.

2061
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,680
Hopefully journalists seek Canadian healthcare on air. That would be beautiful.

2062
01:54:47,479 --> 01:54:51,039
We're gonna and you know, we're gonna have some fun.

2063
01:54:51,159 --> 01:54:53,680
And also the Old Glory Club, as he has knows

2064
01:54:53,720 --> 01:55:00,600
because she has been and and newsfist. I've been to

2065
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:05,520
our our to our inaugural conference, and we have some

2066
01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:08,319
great people. I think at that conference we probably had

2067
01:55:08,439 --> 01:55:14,119
more doctors and people in law school and lawyers per head,

2068
01:55:14,319 --> 01:55:18,079
per capita, and probably any other conference you'll ever go to.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it was it was impressive. The number of

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successful men and young men that were there is very impressive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So check out the Old Glory Club Theold

2072
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:34,479
Glory Club dot com and if you are interested in

2073
01:55:35,239 --> 01:55:38,960
joining a chapter near you, reach out. If you're interested

2074
01:55:39,000 --> 01:55:43,199
in starting a chapter, reach out. No guarantees. We gatekeep

2075
01:55:44,039 --> 01:55:46,840
and that's something that most people fail to do. I

2076
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:48,479
think it's the reason why our country is in the

2077
01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:52,000
condition it's in. We didn't gate key people coming in here,

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01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:55,640
and foreigners came in here and turned us into a

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01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:56,359
foreign country.

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Speaker 1: So, yep, amen, thank you for being here. Brother. I

2081
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:03,800
hope you guys have a wonderful time on the trip

2082
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,199
going to the thing that I won't name publicly, and

2083
01:56:06,439 --> 01:56:08,760
I hope that I get to see you and your

2084
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:12,000
wonderful missus at the next meetup. And I hope you

2085
01:56:12,039 --> 01:56:14,720
have a very blessed holiday season and send my best

2086
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to her as well.

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Speaker 2: Yep, thank you news Fist, and thank you three of twelve.

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Very nice to meet you, great chatting with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, take care, brother, We'll see you next time. Yep.

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All right, well guys, that was the final dragon of

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the evening.