Speaker 1: Good evening everyone, Welcome back to Discord and Dragons. This
is the one hundred and fifty fifth episode tonight. You
probably know some of the things we're going to talk about,
but hopefully I'll surprise you with some other things. We
have some wonderful guests here, all from the old Glory Club.
Tonight it will be a fantastic stream, I promise you that.
So without further ado, let's go ahead and bring on
the feature guests for this evening, mister Pete quinn Nonas,
Welcome back to the channel.
Speaker 2: Sir, hey is how are you doing?
Speaker 3: Oh? I'm all right.
Speaker 1: I'm a little under the weather. I had a very
minor cold over the weekend, but it was nothing to
sneeze at at puns. But whatever, the winter months start
getting here and it gets cold and people burn all
the dust off their heaters, it really messes with me.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So that plus all of the pollen from the hurricanes
had had a rough breathe in the last few weeks.
But other than that, doing pretty good. Thank you for
asking my friend. Speaking of friends, we also have Hunger
Merchant back again.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the stream, sir, Oh, it's a pleasure to
be here.
Speaker 1: He is speaking of good friends news fist back again,
Good evening, sir. Hi one last and certainly leased in
stature as my little co host three of twelve, rounding
out the crew for tonight.
Speaker 4: Good evening, sir, Good evening. Oh god, those the salergies
killing me too.
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's Hugh. I am having trouble breathing and
sleeping lately. I am not my best right now. But
that's fine. We have a show to do. We have
many lovelies in the chat already. We even have Jason Kona,
the Nope White Guilt guy here, author of the Go
Free book that I like so much. He is here
in the chat. Hello Jason.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: I also see we got scrubs from Dangerfield's channel. Good
to see you guys here as well. And we got
some some of the usuals over on Rumble already. We
are doing good. Now, let's go ahead and bring the
branding up. Let's get the name plates out. Which interface
is different now, so it's a little harder to get
all these open. Give me just a moment, Come on, now,
where is.
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: They used to make this so easy to do. Everything
just gets so over engineered. I hate it. Come on.
Why are you not working? Let's try this? How about this?
Speaker 3: There we go?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, it's back to working again. We're gonna
do now. I want a more blue and purple than that.
What do we got that'll work? That's good? Okay, thanks
stream Yards. I appreciate it. All your crap new features
don't that I didn't ask for and don't want. Did
you guys know that that stream Yards basically doubled its
monthly fee and went from twenty five USD to forty
five USD at a single jump.
Speaker 2: Who Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I saw that, and
I'm subscribed to them, but it doesn't I don't think
it expires until June. But yeah, I'm gonna jump out
and just stay with Restream. I mean the amount that
the amount that they want is for a Streamyard is
like insane.
Speaker 1: Especially because they don't really offer anything that I need
or want. It's just they have all these bloated features
that I have no use for at all, and I
feel like that's how they're justifying the price increase. Anyway,
let's not bitch about that. Let's talk about the dragons. Ohh,
I totally could too, but I don't think the users.
The listeners want to hear the stream yard users complain.
Speaker 3: So the dragons, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1: The dragons for tonight are going to be fun guys.
Starting with the Green Dragon, We've got f's for Fred
and Peanut. The Black Dragon has mail in voter intimidation,
the White Dragon has y more problems dot dot dot,
the Blue Dragon has health or wealth, and the Red
Dragon has basket of garbage. So Pete quanons, you are
the elder and the best podcaster here, so you have
the leadership privileges tonight, which mean which means you get
to choose the topic or pick a party member to
choose a topic. And the person who chooses the topic
is the first one who has to answer the dragons
question after I read from the article. So Pete, what
will it be first? My friend?
Speaker 2: Let's do why of our problems? All right?
Speaker 1: That'll be the White Dragon, all right. Now we go
to the New York Post Open air sex market is
exploding in Brooklyn as hookers openly sell themselves along Pennsylvania Track.
The market of sweethearts has nothing to do, has nothing
on Brooklyn's CD Pennsylvania Track East New York's notorious open
air sex market has seen an explosion of scantly planned
prostitutes in the area near Pennsylvania Avenue, prompting a local
poll Paul, I'm not a New York art I'm not
a city, okay, a local politician to plead for cops
to crack down. His parents are forced to shield their
children's eyes, and residents wake up to use condoms scattered
across their condo parking lot. We need the same attention
to police department is paying in Roosevelt Avenue. Bring it
out to East New York to help address the issue,
said city councilman. There's some pictures of some whoas all right.
The post encounter nearly a dozen skimpily dressed hookers Wednesday
night standing beside the park City sanitation and semi trailer
trucks along Georgia and Malta Avenues, bringing sleazy drivers to
a stop, and even jamming up traffic as they chatted
up potential johns. You like to hang out, said one prostitute.
All right, I'm not gonna read the rest of this crap.
It's just slice the life prostitute crap in a big city.
I have no desire to readneate that that trect. So
let's go ahead and move to the White Dragon, which
is this fierce warrior here the what with us tonight
is a powerful champion of his rather successful clan. Now
that he's older and wiser, he helps train the younger
worms of his clan in ways of draconic power and warfare.
Part of that is understanding other worlds and their warfare,
which is what led him to learn about Earth. His
question tonight is as follows, And this comes to you first,
mister kuniis what laws, policies, and social practices do you
think are possible and necessary to heal our culture from
this sickness.
Speaker 2: Well, this is what's really weird about this is you,
as you showed those pictures, this is basically what Giuliani
mayor Giuliani cleaned up. When I was growing up in
New York, we had a section like that in the Bronx.
It was called Hunts Point and it ran under a
lot of it ran into the major Decon Expressway right
next to trucks like like the tractor trailers like that,
and the tractor trailers would actually be left open at
night and they would actually pay whoever had the tractor
trailer whatever business to do to do their business and
the tractor trailer. So this is this is just a
Guliani cleans up New York twenty twenty, rolls around, defund
the police. Everything goes to hell, and it looks like
we're reverting back to the seventies and eighties. So there's
a couple of ways that Juliani cleaned up New York,
and one of them was something controversial called stop and frisk, where.
Speaker 1: Oh I remember that. Yeah, the leftoids were big mad
about that back in the day.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, libertarians too, Oh yeah, because they're leftoids.
Speaker 1: But the yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2: But what he did basically was if he saw, if
police saw somebody that they were supposed to, you know,
who they thought looked suspicious, they would pat him down.
And they patted down a lot of people, a lot
of innocent people. I think they patted down a lot
innocent people, so it didn't look like they were racially profiling,
is what they did. And they basically just had like
a no tolerance policy. They just threw people in jail,
through people in jail, through people in jail. That's exactly
what it takes you need to know tolerance policy. You
see someone who's breaking the law, even if it's something
that you would consider be a misdemeanor and maybe even
a ticket or something, we'll get them off the street
for a couple hours. People start talking and they immediately know.
It's like I said, you're not going to get rid
of degeneracy from your culture. You have to drive it
back into the shadows and not let it out. So,
you know, I look at what Juliani did with stop
and frisk. Also, I mean there was a lot more
to do with it. The price of everything York just
skyrocketed all at once because they stopped building, they said,
and there was no more apartments to build, the YadA YadA,
so it made it really expensive to live there. But
just basically no nonsense policing. Arrest, even if it's just
for a couple hours. If someone spits on the sidewalk,
take them in and make them sit, you know, sit
in the cooling cell for two hours, and then release them.
They're going to go and tell everybody what happened that,
you know, what happened to them, and the ship is
going to stop, all right. Anything else, well, I mean,
we could send them you know, put them in crystals
and you know, for four or five years or something
like that. But yeah, I think I think that we've
seen I remember going to going back to New York. Yeah,
I left New York and my my family left New
York in nineteen eighty six. The first time I got
to go back was in nineteen ninety five, and the
city was already cleaned up. It was like, you know,
you went. It went from you don't You're not in
this area of Manhattan, even midtown Manhattan at midnight, two
places booming at midnight and cops are everywhere. And you know,
that's another thing that they did. They put when you
went to New York, especially during like the holidays, every
other street there were two cops on the corner, so
you know, just police presence kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's move to someone else. Who
else wants to take this question?
Speaker 4: I really couldn't say it any better because I was
thinking the same thing and when I saw the question
and the latter part, the two cops in every corner
literally gets referred to as as as cops on every
street corner.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: In fact, Boris Johnson was made famous because he adopted
the policy of stopping frisk and applied it to London
and massively reduced knife crime. And this was in like
just this was in the early two thousands, like two
thousand and two or so, in the post Blair days
or towards the end of his relevance. So he ended
up being a big stick in the butt of the
of labor over there for that because London was actually
functional city, a functional and clean city for once, just
like it became the New York of Europe.
Speaker 6: Oh, the memories.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you have memories of that times, right, Yeah,
I've even seen him on the top gear. He was
he was happy, he was charismatic, stuff like that. But yeah,
I think what I'm trying to say is you need
no tolerance policies. You commit a crime, you get thrown
in jail. Doesn't necessarily have to be the longest time
in jail, but for a lot of people who are
normally of law abiding citizens and they don't want no
trouble throwing, being thrown in jail for a day is
enough to like sweach off crime forever because it's so embarrassing.
Speaker 1: I know that as someone who's been to jail, Pliny.
I can tell you it just sucks. It's boring year
around idiots like it's terrible.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean I've never been in jail. I've never
even been pulled over. In fact, I pulled over a
cop for cutting me off once. I hunked at him
and he stopped and he was like, what's up. Oh sorry.
So the closest I have to that is detention, and
I got angry. I'm really angry because they were doing
this policy. Were anybody who's leaving the lunch room after
a food fight was going to get detention? I was like,
the hell, what am I to do with this?
Speaker 1: Well? Back to the topic. Is there anything you would
like to add to what Pete talked about in regards
to law's practices, social policy, social practices, etc.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The other half to this is cultural change. Obviously,
parents need to take more interest in their children. They
need to stop leaving them on the tablets, and they
need to tell them what's right and wrong. In fact,
I think Sargon is a really good role model for this.
From a young he's been very talkative to his young boy,
and the young boy respects him because instead of he's
not arbitrary with him. He's not irrational with him. When
his boy asks questions, he says, he says what it
is and why, and you know he's very stern about like, okay,
there's none of that now for this. You know, if
you start crying on the bus, not now, maybe later,
not now, though, you know, when you have the respect
of your child, they'll do what you say. It's actually
and that ties to rule four of totlve rules for life.
Don't do anything that make your children hate you, because
then they'll grow up to be more like you. And
if you are an upstanding person and you are respectable,
they will be like you. And I think that's the
answer to the other half the equation. People need to
become better. They really do.
Speaker 1: All right, decent answer, Thank you very much, Hunger merchant
us fist.
Speaker 3: If only I had as much faith in humanity as
of twelve as a as a degenerate med All I
have to say is we used to be a proper
country where if you wanted to partake in degeneracy you
had to fly out to Vegas, you know, and there
were certain brothels that you can do this kind of
thing a proper country. Yeah, and yeah, we used to
enforce our laws in our cities.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, if I was emperor, I would designate a
certain place of red light district and then savagely police
anyone outside of that area breaking rules.
Speaker 6: I'm with Emperor Constantine on this.
Speaker 5: He was the one who basically didn't outlaw a prostitution
because he said, it's just ridiculous, You're never going to
do it, and all you're going to do is just
waste all these resources and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: I would probably hand out.
Speaker 3: You can police prostitution, but you can't ban Yeah.
Speaker 6: Exactly right. I would probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you can't stop people from wanting to
have sex and get high, Like that's just that's always
going to be a thing.
Speaker 5: I would hand out licenses to some sort of you know,
not exactly organized crime or if they were respectable, you
know what I mean, right, so that you know where
they are. You'd know who stuff started going wrong in
the red light district, you'd know exactly who to call.
You wouldn't have to, you know, and you could call
them up and you'd be like, look, you e to
take care of this, or the city's going to come
down on you really really hard. You have an incentive to,
you know, make this thing work. And yeah, young and
heart says you'r Amsterdam. Basically yeah, because all you really do.
Speaker 6: And however, the problem with saying.
Speaker 5: You can't wipe this out, no, no, no, is that people
immediately leap to the same argument with drugs and drugs
and prostitution go together.
Speaker 6: Legalizing drugs is very, very.
Speaker 5: Bad, and I just I don't see how you can
get around it. I know people are going to do
it anyway. If you get to liberal on that. I mean,
perhaps you could do a thing where you know, there's
a certain area for all the drug os. But I
think drug use is inherently more harder to police and
in some ways more harmful than prostitutions. It's quite a
new phenomena as well. I mean, okay, you can probably
go back to the Chinese and the opium denz and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But civilizationally speaking, it is a newer problem, of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So my general, my general sort of attitude towards vice
is that you have to give it a place. You
have to say this is the place for it. Anyone
doing it outside of that place is going to get
shut on from a great height and then everybody and
then everybody knows where the red light district is, right,
and families don't have to like take their kids through it, right,
Like everybody knows that's the place where the bad stuff
goes on, and if there's any of it outside of there,
then you can call the cops. But we don't even
have an effective police force in London. This is this
is many many many steps ahead. You'd need an actual
white police force and you know, the will to enforce
the laws that we will already have and all that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I made it go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 4: May I ask a question for the rest of you, guys,
what do you do about the sort of parents that
are such degenerates that they do bring their kids to
ship like that, like the Pride parades, execution.
Speaker 2: Definitely, but just have a lot of crystals, a lot
of crystals dragon.
Speaker 3: These dragons love love their crystals. But I just want
to put I just want to push back on just
one thing that's fast said, like about the Amsterdam model.
I mean, first of all, the Amsterdam model, it's none
of the locals, you know, participate in any of those activities.
Those are just for the tourists, as anybody from Amsterdam
will tell you. But it's also like there's I mean,
even though drug use and prostitution is legalized. I mean,
as dam is still the drug and human trafficking sex
trafficking capital of the world, even though those things are legalized.
That's I don't I don't think that's the right model,
but that's just my opinion.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Amsterdam is a we I mean, I lived in
Amsterdam for a while. It's weird.
Speaker 5: It's a weird place, and I take your point. I mean,
you could make the sort of argument that Amsterdam has
become sort of an international red light center.
Speaker 6: They've you know, red light district. They've been trying to
clean it up.
Speaker 5: But you're right, the problem is that there's a ton
of international organized crime in Amsterdam. I don't know if
any of you have seen that film Layer Cake, but
one of the gangsters in there is this like complete idiot.
You know, he goes to Amsterdam to do coke and
bang hooker's and he's a complete idiot. And you do
run into those kinds of people there. So I mean,
you might say that you'd need a much more strict
border policy sort of in addition to this, if it
was any major international city.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, man, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, these are the kinds of problems that you know,
you could you could start with the basic principle and
just all of the niggli facts on the ground would
be enough to keep an entire police department engaged. Like
you're You're never going to find a perfect answer, unfortunately,
to the interface between a moral idea and how humans
actually act.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, yeah, I can confirm that all that
is like what you say, because I have cause contacts
that are Dutch, that are Dutch slash German slash live
in the area, and the only the answer is that
they have the culture to hold it up. It's like
they have. They are one of the few peoples on
this earth that can actually uphold, for the most part
of more libertine slash right libertarian society and actually not
completely screw everything up. The fact that they don't mostly
they mostly don't predic in it at all. They have
a sort of more libertine look on things, but they're
also very strict with what they allow themselves to indulge in.
And virtually every other part of the Netherlands is is
rural traditional, They still court, they they they have all
sorts of traditions that are lovely. The Netherlands is a
lovely country. And just Amsterdam, it's just sort of a
black spot that in Rotterdam where all the apparently their
migrants are the relevance. So it's very relevant to the
question obviously, because it's it's what do you need to
make this work? How can you have any of these
things where you're you know, your your whole three out
of four pillars thing going on, and at least one
of those pillars appears to be culture, and then another
seems to be policing. I wonder what the other two
pillars are if if there are.
Speaker 3: It's almost like if you have a homogeneous society and
a strong culture that the locals just don't fall into
those traps. Who would have.
Speaker 2: Thought, hmmm, big jar.
Speaker 1: The The only thing that I have to add to
this conversation, Uh holy, this is for Lomax. Here there
you go, Lomax. That's what Narken is. You can read
about it. The thing that I think matters most for
cleaning up this trash and fixing YMR problems is you
have to be willing to go without to do what's right,
and enough people have to be willing to do that
to clean up the mess. And I don't mean that
it's like some kind of weird call to war and
you know, crazy ethnic cleansing stuff. What I mean by
that is eventually enough people are going to be upset
enough and at risk enough and angry enough to start
doing something about it on a local level. Productively, people
are mad about it and talk about it online now
and then in some of us are organizing intelligently, like
the Old Glory Club for example. Many people have made
go free clubs with the Whitewell being Crew. They're trying
to clean up their local areas and have more moral,
clean living influence on the culture around them. It's going
to take good men getting into places of power and
doing what's right. We don't even need a new government
and new laws. We just need men that are worth
a crap actually implementing the things that we have. And
I think you'll start seeing a decline in these kinds
of problems if this is a big if, if we
start turning off the welfare spigot and stopping the mass
migration rotating door, because those things decay an identity that
people are willing to defend and think has value. If
your state or national or country identity is so devalued
and so debased that no one cares about it, and
it's just melting pots, sieven, that garbage in every direction.
People don't have any reason to care because there's nothing
there for them. Everyone just becomes this rootless individual that
only cares about himself. And I think that unless we
can remedy that, then there's really not much else that
we can do about out these societal problems. So we
could sit here and talk about policy and stuff all
we want, But what it's gonna take, like Pete tells you,
like I tell you, it's going to take an organized,
motivated minority to take power and start doing what's necessary
to clean house and doing what we can to cut
off the sources of our of our worst problems.
Speaker 3: That's what I think.
Speaker 1: So any other input before we move to superchats for
this question? All right, let's move on then over on entropy.
We have two things from Melon and we have one
big thing from Paladin, which we'll get to in a second.
Melon says, shout for three US dollars, thank you, mellon
shout out to Hunger for covering mine and twenty other
dudes lunch the other day at a meetup. He won't
even brag about it, but I will.
Speaker 3: Keep hey, keep it on the downlough. Okay, this is
for the group chat.
Speaker 1: Another three dollars from Melon. I return home for the
first time in two weeks, and yet more of my
Christmas tree farm has been parceled off and staked for
development billions. I will find a way to stop this.
I'm sorry to hear that somebody's taken your land like
I'm confused. That's that's sad. I hope that you get
compensated properly and they don't just snatch it from you.
Speaker 4: Government.
Speaker 3: No, I think the I think the farm and his
probably not his personal farm, but the one in the area.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I got you. I see what you mean, Paladin.
Why why z interesting fellow that I met at the
last OGC meet up sends in fifty US dollars. Thank you, man,
that's a great donation. Deeply appreciate it, he says. I
say that you need to let the problems run their courses.
We didn't get here because of a bad mayor people
need to realize that as a collective they need to
go back to the fork in the road and take
the other path. Culture leadership, media will follow. Yeah, that's
kind of what I was saying, man Like, there's going
to come a point to where there's gonna be a
lot of dregs of society, as I mean, even white people.
God knows, we've got enough enough of those that are
broken beyond repair. And there's going to come a point
to where there will be a bottleneck. There will be
economic hardship, and the people who don't care enough about
themselves and don't have an identity, they're not going to
make it. And the people who don't make it through
that bottleneck, who don't make it through that long winter,
well we didn't need them anyway. They didn't prepare for
the long winter, so they starve that kind of thing.
I do think that there is going to be a
necessary culling eventually, just because of quite literally not ironically,
socioeconomic factors. Huck huck. I do think that that is
going to be a culling factor, and I think it'll
mostly get rid of the people that we don't need anyway.
Any other input on that one from you guys.
Speaker 2: Nuts.
Speaker 4: No, nothing is just be with there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be uh you're going to see
a survival of the fittest come into play for sure.
Speaker 1: All right, And I'm check the other sites and it
doesn't seem like we have anything else, so we are
clear to move on. Well, yeah, because that was from
last week. Ook, that's not for now. Okay, all right,
very good, all right, we'll drop that banner and we'll
bring the dragons back up. That was the ha white dragon,
which means we have basket of garbage from the red
health or wealth from the blue. F's for Fred and
peanut from the green, and mail in voter intimidation from
the black Pete knonees. You are party leader tonight, sir?
What will it be?
Speaker 2: Health or wealth?
Speaker 1: Health or wealth from the blue dragon? All right, come on, obs,
all right, here we go. This is from zero Hedge.
Establishment media says Trump's mass deportations will be an economic disaster.
It's the same tire to debunk to arguments over and
over again from the open borders cheerleaders, legacy media dinosaurs
still clinging to the last vestiges of their once vast
prehistoric Kingdom have consistently defended mass immigration and common sense
border security. They claim that America and the West End
general can't survive economically without illegal immigrants and a steady
flow of non citizens from the Third world. Without them,
who will mow Republican yards and clean Republican toilets? Left
us often argue, but is this true? Or do illegal
immigrants actually take far more than they contribute when it
comes to the economy. Well, everyone in here is intelligent
and knows these factoids, so we're not going to go
over it. There's no reason to read the rest of this.
This is just a launching off point for something that
I want to talk about with my panel tonight. So
we're going to go ahead and move to the Blue Dragon. Now,
that's the wrong thing. I spoiled the question. The Blue
Dragon with us tonight is a put crossar of his clan,
which is a title given to the greatest visionary and
thinker of the clan. He lives in a huge magic
city of dragons and other creatures that floats high above
his beautiful desert. He spends time learning about about the
various complex worlds which show promise along the lines of
technological advancement and ingenuity. His question to us tonight is, thus,
what level of financial hardship and economic decline is worth
ending mass migration and removing immigrants from your nation? Do
you have a limit?
Speaker 2: I guess I go first. Huh, well, he did choose
the dragon, all right. A lot of the GDP you
that they talk about is basically them inviting illegals in
here and giving them free money and basically like giving them.
I mean, the Haitians in Springfield may as well have
MX black cards from the things I hear that they're
buying that, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, that's not really an exaggeration because the pictures we see.
They've got brand new smartphones, they've got good clothes.
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand dollars, vehicles on hundred thousand dollars SUVs,
and I hear they're buying guns. So yeah, important army.
But yeah, that's part. That's what you're seeing all this.
You know, it's like, oh, look at how well the
economy is doing. Now. We know that economy is not
doing well, but it should be doing It should probably
be in recession by now, and it's being propped up
by money printing and just giving it to people who
are illegal and allowing them to just go ham And
you know, people can make the argument, oh well, you
know there's there's Native American. You know, there's Americans who
are here. There's heritage Americans who are getting free stuff too.
It's like if I have a problem with that too,
but if they need it, I'd rather go to them
than go to some fucking sixty five IQ. You know, Yeah,
it didn't do from God in set? Yeah in set,
insane person you know forgain voodoo practitioner from an island
that half of it should have been blown up Dominican Republic.
It's fine, we need baseball players. So yeah, that's what
we see. Look anything, any way we get this fixed,
it's going to be painful. There's going to be a
lot of pain for a while getting rid of deporting
forty million people. It's going to hurt. But also prices
are going to go down. Price of housing is going
to go down, price of food is going to go down,
the price of get everything all the price the price
of everything is going to go down if you get
rid of forty million people. So I see an offset there,
but I think there will be pain. It's just I mean,
if anything. If you're sick, you're you know, you may
have to do something that hurts, you know, in the
in the short term, so that in the long term
you're healthy again. And that's the way I see this
working out.
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. I agree with you
on that. Who else wants to take this question?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll jump on that because I don't even think
Pete's right. Okay, it will, it'll it'll hurt, you know,
quote unquote for a brief period of time. But it's like,
you know, I come, I cut my finger today just working,
working with a knife, and when I put alcohol on
on on the cut, Yeah, fucking hurt. But I stopped
the bleeding and you don't want to get and I'm
not gonna.
Speaker 2: Get an infection.
Speaker 3: So it did it hurt, Yeah, but it helped. It
helped way more than it hurt.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I had a tweet months ago like think of the
housing market, like what is the housing market gonna look like?
Because everyone's talking about like, oh, no one can buy.
This is a huge talking point economically, no one can
afford a house, which is completely true, completely true, Like
real estate prices are insane. No one can afford a house. Yep,
what how does twenty million people you know, being removed
change that a fucking law? These are low and these
are low income people and Section eight housing? What do
Section eight do? These these people get Section eight housing
assistance from the federal government, and what do they buy up?
They buy up all the two bedroom houses, all the townhouses,
all the single family houses, all the starter homes that
were all built in the eighties and seventies. They're getting
those houses and you're not getting those houses. So remove
twenty million of those people. Well, I think we're all
gonna be able to afford houses again.
Speaker 1: Yep, newsis what do you think?
Speaker 6: I think?
Speaker 5: I think hungers sort of like nailed it. There would
definitely be economic problems. The biggest problem will be that
the mass importation of immigrants had been used to slow
the rate of inflation by keeping wages down, and wages
are said to be the main driver of inflation, but
that is in fact a misnomer. Rising wages are the
most visible effect of inflation, and that's why it keeps just,
you know, going round round around the government. Principal money devalues,
the currency, people's pay declines in real terms, and then
they have to raise the pay now. I think if
we got rid of all the migrants, the insane amount
of money printing would actually be revealed.
Speaker 6: It is only because of.
Speaker 5: Money printing that they can't actually afford to pay people
that live in their countries to do basic jobs.
Speaker 1: Despite that that Kinsey and Nightmare training we're talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, basically, And that's and that's why they're always like, oh,
you know, it's because people are lazy, and it's no,
it's it's because a very short time ago, within the
living memory of.
Speaker 6: Many people, you had a situation.
Speaker 5: Where one parent could go have a job and afford
a nice house, a car, sometimes two cars, two kids,
and go on holiday once a year. And you know,
the people are so obsessed by the number. They just
they a lot of people just missed the decline in
the actual purchasing power of your currency, which has degraded
to an insane level and will just continue to in
grade degrade as long as the current financial system is
in play. But I think if we got rid of
all the migrants, as as hunger, I think we're saying,
or pete, the price of many things would go down.
The problem is that the economists that run the West
have basically gotten their mind that the price of anything
going down significantly at any point is ruinous because of
the way you know, of the economic.
Speaker 6: System is leveraged.
Speaker 5: This is one of the reasons why they're so against deflation.
And so this would be like this would be a
massive shock, and yeah, it would, it would massively change
the economy. But on the other hand, right, you you
wouldn't have to deport them all at once, right, you
could easily take like, okay, so the first thing, just
remove all the poll factors.
Speaker 6: Okay, so in the UK and the US stop giving
them infinite money and stuff like that. But again, this
is not this is not an accident. Right, Let's let's
not pretend.
Speaker 5: Like, oh, who would have thought that if we left
a you know, huge jar of honey outside it would
like attract flies. I mean bullshit, right, they know exactly
what they're doing. But yes, if you remove the pull factors,
and then you just sort of increased enforcement, if you
just made it, you know, sort of knowing that the
place wasn't welcome to migrant so you could you know,
gradually sort of like cut the numbers down, although you
might need something bit more drastic. I mean in the
UK this is like a huge, just a massive problem.
We've got a problem here that you don't have in
the US because we've got the NHS, which is free
at point of use to well basically anyone at the moment, right,
So we are effectively running an international hospital on a
national budget and it is all the actual productive people
who are paying out the ass for it. Obviously, So
so yeah, yeah it would It would be painful, But
I think the greater pain, to be perfectly honest, would
be the pain of all the shit libs who would
have if if, if this was done successfully and if
things got better, they would have to.
Speaker 6: Finally admit that maybe not.
Speaker 5: Every single person on the earth is the same or
of the same value, and that maybe having a society
where everyone can speak the same language is a good thing,
and they would just the coping, seething and bitching we've
gone for years.
Speaker 1: I want to address akarment of on Rumble Cool Paladin,
whyby zed get if I get a financial guy in
our shows, you can stop the bleeding that comes from
not understanding how the treasury works. Dude, We understand how
the treasury works. Like we're talking about the exploitative usury
of quantitative easing and central banking. Like what we understand it?
Speaker 6: My dude, I think Paladin's got into the m MT.
Speaker 4: Out know all, he's taking cold medication.
Speaker 3: How does the treasury help me buy a house? If
another immigrant gets free money and I don't, how does
it help me buy a house?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like that the problem we were talking about first
their Paladin. Even if there wasn't fiat currency and central usury,
if you had a government that was massively importing foreigners
and in a hurry to replace its host population, flooding
tons of people into an area of finite space with
finite homes, doesn't matter what type of currency you had,
it would still massively increase the value of those homes.
So those are kind of separate issues there. But anyway,
I would love to have a long spurgy economics conversation
with you, because over on Paul and libertarian a cap
stuff is what got me started down the pipeline. Anyway,
I think I'm gonna had I think I talked to
Pete about that at a function we went to.
Speaker 2: Actually I'm speak a lot. We got to talk a
lot that weekend we did.
Speaker 1: That was one fun man that was that was a
good time. Why don't you take the dragon's question. You're
the only one that hasn't answered it yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the other answers have been fantastic so far.
The only thing that that that you guys have really
left me with is is that I've heard from one
source it would cost sixty billion dollars to do approximately
based on hiring lots of ice agents and then building
regional centers where they flow towards towards either airports or
the border or wherever. And I don't know what it's
based on, really, I don't know enough. I'm not exactly
a financial bro that I don't know some basic economics
I've been studying Austrian economics. Have to agree with the
Treasury as well. It does not help in any way
and the destruction of such entities would would cause a
significant amount of deflation considering the destruction of the currency
involved if it's destroyed. I have to say. It's Ron Paul,
and that caught me down this road as well. I
know I've been I know for a fact, I've been
a libertarian since at least when I was fourteen, and
by the time I was fifteen, I was an objectivist,
and my relationship with the objectivism is something that's very
close and near and dear to my heart.
Speaker 1: I still to have a long talk with you about
that one day. We need to do that.
Speaker 4: Oh God, yes, we got to do that, because I
see it as a way to be a big al
libertarian and a big c conservative at the same time.
Speaker 1: And I think you're wrong. That's why I need to
talk about it. But that's a conversation for another day.
Speaker 4: Well it's not for everyone.
Speaker 2: I can help with Paladin's comment. Stormy Waters does a
really Stormy Waters does a really good job of talking
about how basically energy is a greater cause of inflation
than anything else because if you're not manufacturing here you
the level the amount of money that you have to
put into energy like gas and oil and fuel and
everything else to transport everything everything around. That increases the
price of everything. That's where you're getting it from. I
think he says something like it costs like a dollar
for every mile to transport by truck, fifty cents every
mile to to transport by I forget what the other
thing he said, but he said it's like ten cents
a mile to transport by ship. So we could be
floating and we have like the biggest river system in
the world in the in the United States. We could
just be transporting things by ship if we were if
we were creating it here, if we were building it here.
So you have to take into consideration that what energy
does to the price to consumer price index, It sends
things through the roof. Anybody who's yeah, fifty cents. Yeah,
someone just said ten cents a dollar by by road,
fifty cents by rail, ten cents by by water, got you.
Speaker 3: And anybody who manufacturing knows this, Like energy is the
most important energy. Energy affects the price of literally everything
in the entire economy.
Speaker 1: And I assume that that's one of the reasons why
as soon as one of the reasons why to stop
all the oil stuff, that's one of the things that
made the economy start getting shittier almost immediately.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons why Palette and saying
that Ron Paul and Elon Musk getting together and talking
about the economy isn't great for the economy because it's
not all the Federal Reserve and they're globalists, and I'm
not saying they're globalist because they want global they want
global government. They're globalist because they want global trade. And
when you get global trade, that's when you get the
you're using more energy than you actually need to when
it could just be built right here. Sure, maybe we
may not be able to mine graphite here, We're gonna
have to get it from somewhere else. But we are
rich here in so many different things. So when you
have these free marketers, you know, these people who are
completely against tariffs, I think tariffs are the worst thing.
I mean, this country ran on just tariffs for a
century and it was probably the most prosperous century we had,
the nineteenth century where we didn't kill the power you
know where we didn't kill the dollar by sending everything
overseas and kill purchasing power by sending everything overseas. Yeah,
that's why I left Austrian economics. I put Austrian economics
behind me, and now I study people like Friedrich List
and even Alexander Hamilton, because either are the people who
talk about tariffs, and tariffs are the way you keep
manufacturing here and you keep energy prices and you keep
the consequences of energy prices down.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Well, anything else on this topic before we move on, gentlemen,
it's already. I think that means we can move on
because we don't have any paid chats that I can
see anywhere. So we go ahead and bring back the dragons.
Bring back the dragons, all right. We just did the
blue dragon health or wealth, which means we have f's
for Fred and peanut, mail in voter and timidation and
basket of garbage. What'll it be next, mister.
Speaker 2: Pete, mail in voter intimidation?
Speaker 1: All right, from the black Dragon, vettegoud.
Speaker 2: Black Dragon.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, ah, very good, very good, all right, quanobs
work please, thank you leftist groups. This comes to us
from the Federalist. Leftist groups turn to threats to get
out the vote. Maryland's Attorney general is warning the Voter
Participation Center to stop sending threatening mailer's to its residents.
Growing increasingly desperate in a tight presidential race, leftist groups
appear to be turning to the intimidation game. Just days
before the election, The Maryland Attorney General's office is warning
the infamous Voter Participation Center to stop sending mailers to
residents threatening to expose their voting records. Attorney General Anthony Brown,
a Democrat, sent the VPC a cease and assist letter
after Marylanders complained of receiving the group's so called voting
report card attempting to shame people into voting. We're sending
this mailing to you and your neighbors to share who
does and does not vote in an effort to promote
election participation. While we have hidden the name and street
number of your neighbors to protect privacy, these are their
true voting records. The mailer warns, we will be reviewing
these records after the election to determine whether or not
you joined your neighbors in voting. In a press release,
Brown admonished the Voter Registration Activist Group that any action
that intimidates prospective voters, especially on the eve of such
a consequential election, will not be tolerated. It's really gross.
The VPC, which bills itself as a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization,
yeah right, we've read that before. With a mission to
help members of the new American majority already register and vote,
has been used as such tactics for the better part
of two decades, said Parker Thayer, investigative researcher at the
Capital Research Center. He said the VPC and groups like
it are rarely held accountable. They used the First Amendment
to push their intimidation campaign. Maryland residents aren't the only
Americans that receive threatening voting messages. This particular bullying tactic
to try and intimidate or bully people into voting has
been incredibly popular this election cycle. They are told me
in a private interview Friday afternoon from Battleground, Michigan. This
is a tactic of desperation, as they are noted on X.
The leftist group Now This Impact created a website that
shows users how to quote stalk the voting history of
an ex friend or family member and bully them for
not voting. You go to did my Friends vote dot org,
put in their name, age range, and place the registered
to vote. A young woman in a video on the
site explains, as an example, my mom and she's actually
voted quite a bit. Let's move on now to inaccurate
and potentially misleading. The Voter Participation Center was founded in
two thousand and three, starting out as Women's Voices Women Vote.
According to Influence Watch Capital Research Centers nonprofit tracker, The
group initially focused on registering the strongly Democratic leaning the
voting block of single women to vote Today, the group
organizes registration of numerous Democratic leaning voting populations. The VPC
has long operated in a direct mail campaign targeting unmarried women, minorities,
and millennials, according to Influence Watch, with ties to the
Clinton Foundation, no doubt started by Podesta. Like most of them,
the Democrat Party and other leftist groups, the VPC has
faced a litany of criticisms, allegations, and charges about unethical,
even fraudulent practices. In twenty twenty, Fairfax County, Virginia warned
voters about an inaccurate and potentially miss leading mailing from
the vp From the Center of Voter Information, the vpc's
sister nonprofit, The group is mass mailing pre filled absentee
ballot applications to county voters without their request, and the
mailer includes return envelopes to send the application to the
City of Fairfax, not Fairfax County. In March, the Alabama
Secretary of State advised residents of a misleading, unsolicited mass
mailing of pre filled in voter registration forms targeting Alabama mailboxes.
The mass mailings were the products of VPC and CEDVI,
and well this just goes on to talk about how
they've been doing this and for years and years and years,
and they barely ever get a slap on the wrist
for doing it. So let's move to the Black Dragon. Now,
the Black with Us tonight chooses to keep details about
himself secret that serves the Great Dragon Empire in his
own way. He studies our world not just for entertainment,
but to learn about our unique cultural war and all
of the oddities which go along with it. He is
very curious about this democratic process and wonders how useful
it is for real politic. So here is the question,
And Pete, you chose this one, so it comes to
you first, Right, Okay, do you think we should care
about voting ethics or even voting itself at all? Is
it worth caring about if you're concerned with real politic?
Speaker 2: Actually, the question I've been asking myself lately is does
voting matter if you live under our n occupied government? Yeah?
Do we voting ethics? I mean, the way to handle
the lefts voting voting practices is to do, I think
what the Santus did insure Florida. He basically set it
up and redistrict the whole thing so that like a
Democrat will never win again in Florida. So I mean,
I think it's important. I think voting. I care more
about voting when it comes to state and local, state,
county and local. I think that's where you can make
the most difference. Real politique, I mean, real politique is
getting in there and using power, the power that you have,
and expanding your power as well. So yeah, I think
that I think we should care about voting ethics only
in that we should meet it, and we should meet
it more force meet it more forcefully, but really concentrating
and concentrating where we have the ability to do that,
which would be local, county, or even state if you
live in a very small state.
Speaker 1: M hmmm. I agree with all of that.
Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, who else to.
Speaker 1: Take this next? Okay, go ahead?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean this is what I've been saying for years, right,
you know, support your local politics. That's where it's important. Obviously,
in most years the federal elections has been globalst versus globalists,
so it's easy to say that voting didn't matter very much.
Now that we have someone who's shown that he's not
quite part of the establishment. This actually adds some value
to it. But of course, Pete, of course I respect
what you're saying, and I view the whole situation of
direct democracy voting as antithetical to the American system anyway.
There should just be electors appointed and then they vote
for president and that should be the end of it.
There shouldn't be something that's on every every individual's minds.
They have more important things to do than this, and
they shouldn't be deciding it either. They just they just
aren't up to the task. We had a system where
there was at least one level between any any elected official,
where you would vote in your local legislature and then
they would appoint they would s collectively appoint to senators,
and that would be that that differentiated it from Congress.
Congress is the only part of our government that was
directly elected, and that's fair enough to have that to
balance out the rest of it.
Speaker 1: I still don't like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like it either. I think it actually
should go too. It should be they should be appointed
as well. I have no problem with it being based
on population if that's the case, but it shouldn't be
directly There should be no direct elections. People aren't. I
love my fellow Americans, but there's just not enough time
in a day for them to be up to the task.
It used to be you had to be thirty five,
had to own property, and were the head of your household.
And before anybody accuses me of being sort of like
a massagist or anything in.
Speaker 1: A household, nobody here's going to do that through what
the hell?
Speaker 2: You can't be more misogynist to me? I have to
hunt women at nights.
Speaker 1: True, I've been taking lessons.
Speaker 4: I literally have to get on all fours in like
hunt a night to be more to be like more
misogists than an audience.
Speaker 1: That's some rookie numbers. You're gonna pump those up, son, Yeah,
but anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 4: But anyway, the point is that the standards did you
need to be much higher, and it needs to be
people who have a stake in the community who are
actually making any decisions about anything, if anyone at all.
So at least the people who are like say, functional
in their community, pick the guy that they know that's
the most qualified for the for the say, the local
position on the and the legislator, and then all these
guys who are pillars of these communities can pick two
competent senators and fair, Yeah, that's fair. That respects Great
Man theory, it respects theatural order, and it respects the
part of monarchy that we inherited from the British system
that are actually good. The whole point of a republic
is that it's supposed to be the evolution of a monarchy.
The the head of the executive is supposed to replicate
the prose of having a monarch without many of the
the cons And it's just the fact that we're at
a point where I can I could probably pick a
random boomer and they'd say, oh, the electoral college is
out of date, because it's essentially turned into a bunch
of rubber stamps. It's like, well, you're part You're the problem, dude,
you're the problem. You are you have not even a
paper thin understanding of our own civics, let alone our history.
Speaker 1: And how open democracy and universal suffrage.
Speaker 4: Yes, you don't, you shouldn't have. This is evidence that
you shouldn't have any part of it. You're not you're
not you're not ready, you're not educated enough, and and
by by no definition of that word, either whether it
is the leftist definition or the real definition of actually,
you know, reading some some goddamn primary sources in history. No,
that's not even in doctrination. Stupid, that's just complete ignorance.
You don't know the civics. I can't. I can't make
any better case than half half of people are below
average IQ in that they shouldn't be involved in politics
in any way. They have bigger things to think about,
like where they're going to get their next meal from
Mommy or Nuggies or something.
Speaker 1: Where they get their next tends.
Speaker 4: Exactly. I mean, some of these people are barely trainable
for their work, for their jobs.
Speaker 1: Well, let's hear from somebody else news Field, I saw
you unmute. Is it your turn?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay.
Speaker 5: So people forget a very important aspect of democracy, which
is to lessen into group conflict. So you could make
an argument in terms of voting ethics that that it's
is seen to be fair is actually more important than
whether it is actually fair. Now, some people might say, oh, well,
you know, we should have a monarchy and all that.
Speaker 6: Kind of other stuff.
Speaker 5: But the fact of the matter is that the political
formula upon which the West operates at the moment is democracy.
To switch to another political formula would require some kind
of massive upheaval.
Speaker 6: Upheaval.
Speaker 5: So if we wanted to go to a monarch, for example,
you would need I mean, this is this is Plato,
Plato and Machiavelli. You know, after democracy, it goes back
to principality. Out of the mob, someone emerges that can
take control. Trump is a good example of this. You know,
you need a great man that everyone or most people
will follow, not because they're told to follow, but because
he's got you know, he's got the thing that people follow.
So if you want to run a democracy correctly, I
guess then yes you do need do you need voting ethics.
The problem is, of course that the managerial state sort
of overrides this eventually. Right, you can't really run any
kind of country sort of properly if everyone changes chairs
every four years. Right, you know, people hate this, but
it's true. Right, This is what causes the birth of
the managerial state, because there are some decisions and some
directions that need ten twenty years, which is one of
the reasons, by the way that the West has such
a stick up its us about countries that have long
term rulers.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing that I think we even talked
about together on stream a year or two ago, is
how having this really narrow window of revolving door elected officials,
it leads to there never being any accountability. And that's
why people just get in and lie and steal and
cheat and take what they can get because they know
they're just going to bounce out absolutely.
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, look at what's happening with Trump
possibly being elected, right, the most squealing is from the
managerial class because Trump's like, you know, he's going to
clear them out, or he says he's going to clear
them out, right, But just believe even the threat that
the managerial state could actually you know, undergo significant change
is enough to create this huge chueue and cry. Modern
democracy is essentially picking the I don't know, the cod
piece for the managerial state, you know what I mean,
You just you just swap the cod piece out and
then you jangle it in front of the people and
you're like, oh, look it's a different cod piece, right,
you know, throw your exit, throw your exit at the
cod piece, right.
Speaker 6: Lots lots of people have talked about this.
Speaker 5: I mean, Scrump did it and made an excellent analogy
of like, you know, depending on who the leader is,
you you stick your some against the machine and it
will be like, you know, order accepted or order denied.
And since you know, the left is taken over the
managerial state, it's you know, but look if if we
had like actual proper elections, I don't know. I think
so many Western societies have become so complex at this
point you need a managerial state.
Speaker 6: To run them. But the current situation that we have
where the managerial state are essentially.
Speaker 5: Invisible and unaccountable and take more and more power, leading
people to be confused where power really lies. I mean,
this is another big problem. People don't actually know who's
making the decisions. And this sort of leads into the
show game of you know, of democracy. Oh it's Boris
Johnson making the real decisions. That the fuck it is right?
It's not right, Like it's it's some faceless bureaucrat that
you've you've never seen and you will never meet. And
unless you're like a complete politics hard you're you'll you'll
never know. Yeah, that's all I got to say.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hunger Merchant, what do you think my friend.
Speaker 3: I love democracy.
Speaker 6: Aha, m h ironic.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be Democracy's biggest supporter tomorrow. Tomorrow is
going to be I'm going to be the biggest supporter
of democracy because I'm going to for friends and punishing
my enemies.
Speaker 1: Yep, I think I.
Speaker 2: Wanted to clear up. I'm not the biggest anti Semite.
I'm just like a huge pattern noticer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean those words are kind of synonyms though, pete,
aren't they.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm definitely the smallest.
Speaker 3: That was cute?
Speaker 1: Three, that was good? Uh, hunger. Is there anything else
you wanted to say on the topic, because I have
some things to share.
Speaker 3: Uh not really, No, democracy is it is what it.
Speaker 1: Is when it comes to the old real politique taking
power and doing power stuff. I do think that for us,
for our friends, for our group, I do think ethics
matters to us, but we have to be willing to
deny the benefits of those ethics to people who oppose them.
That has been a major crutch of people with moral
value on our side of things. Just generally speaking, I
think that when it comes to voting stuff and voting ethics, well,
we can't just go flip a switch and end universal suffrage.
That ain't going to happen. I do think that we
have to be concerned, at least on the local level
and to some degree larger levels with voting and voting ethics,
because there needs to be, like was said earlier, the
perception of fairness and the perception of the system being
good and working, because you can't just have unrest and
the common man being completely detached and thinking that anyone
of any stripe that has any kind of political power
is a corrupt, evil monster. Once you get to that point,
you don't really have a civilization or a society anymore.
You have to rebuild. It's just an economic zone full
of individual actors, which in many places we are already
starting to see that become the case. So I do
think that if we are going to do this real
politic game, and we have been and we start taking power,
we do have to have at least the appearance of
being the good guys and better than the people that
we are punishing, or we just become a different kind
of tyrant for the a man to hate and feel
no connection to. So what do you how do you
guys feel about my take on that?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 1: Is? It not based, Is it not based enough? Is
it stupid? What do you guys think?
Speaker 2: But it's interesting I was thinking today about like my
libertarian prior is my anarcho capitalist priors? And you know,
one of the things that you're taught is that like
nobody can be trusted with power. They say, oh, we
got to end the government because no one should have
that power, which just goes to my theory that libertarianism
is just a bastardization of Christianity, because that basically is like,
you know, original sin. Everyone has original sin, but you
don't have Christ. It's Christianity without Christ because there's no
one to come in and to you know, to forgive
the sins so that you can have a civilization. So
you have to You're laying your cards down on the
table and saying, look, this is what we have to do.
We have to get rid of the state, and then
everybody will be forced to deal with each other. And
it's like, well, that's not how this works. If you're
telling me that, Like, I don't want to live in
a world where nobody can be trusted with power. The
problem is is that they've designed a system, the managerial state.
The way it's designed with a New Deal regime, and
especially through the moralization of the Nuremberg regime, that you
don't know who's in charge. You have a complete decentralized government.
There's five hundred and thirty five people who five hundred
and thirty four seems to be bought by a foreign
by a foreign country. I might even call them a
foreign power because all their power they have they have
through by stealing from us, and they can be bought.
But the reason that can happen is that those are
just those people are just out there making decisions, but
they're being influenced by the government's actually being run by
unelected bureaucrat. And what's the solution to that? You know,
it's like Thomas says. Thomas says, you don't need to
make America one ten. You just have to the system
is designed so that they can exercise power from the outside.
You just have to make the system. Revert the system
back to the way it was. So they can't because
before that, before World War One, when they destroyed basically
anybody wanting to the idea of monarchy and one man rule,
they had the ear of power, but they didn't have power. Well,
now they have power, and we just went through the law.
We just went through a century where basically three hundred
million people were murdered by wars they started or by regimes,
by regimes that they propped up and inspired. So we
need a we need to dismantle this managerial system. I've
heard some people out there who are vying for power
or vying for the ear of power, who are talking
about that. Don't know that they I don't know you
can trust them. I don't know. We want to, you know,
because who knows. We're in such a low trust society
that how do you trust somebody who's saying that that's
what they want to do. So elect me and I'll
do that, especially since you know they'll probably just get
in there and they'll show them the tape of you know,
Kennedy getting his head blown off from a different direction
but oh okay, or they'll just show them pictures where
their family sleeps or something like that, Which is why
you know, someone like you know, you wish that Trump
was that guy, because you know, he really has nothing
to lose at this point, and it would be great
if he was our you know, Francisco Franco or you
know our you know Pinochet, but the system, the managerial state,
needs to be demolished and we need to go back
to the way things were run for one hundred and
twenty five years in this country before World War One
started just tearing everything down and they started exerting all
their influence over the government.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I'm not an American, but from my point of view,
if Trump just stops twenty thirty and cripples the power
of the UN, that will be a massive w for
the entire planet. Just if he gets in, the whole
twenty thirty thing is basically off. I mean, they'll probably say, oh,
we're going to do twenty forty now. But if Trump
actually gets the US economy going lower's energy prices and
was kind of other stuff, all the other Western countries.
Speaker 6: Are going to be like, wait, wait, why can't we
do that? And you know the.
Speaker 5: Government will be like no, no, no, no, no, no,
we can't. You know, we can't do that. It's racist,
don't you know. It's like Trump. But you know, the
never underestimate the effect of a good example on everyone
else that's trying to do bad things.
Speaker 6: It's going to be It's going to be interesting. Although
I hope. You know for all my Mira bros.
Speaker 5: That Trump Trump wins in he significantly improves your country,
but he will also have a knock on effect on
the entire West.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's quite possible. Yeah, all right, well, gentlemen,
that was good. We have some paid chats to get to.
Let's get to those before we move to the next dragon.
Assuming you guys are done, anybody else have anything important
to say.
Speaker 3: Or can we move on? All right?
Speaker 1: We will move on. Over on cash app we have
Jason Kunna, the no White Guilt guy, and for ten
US dollars. Thank you so much, Jason, I deeply appreciate it, friend,
He says, you are a force of nature fulk tithe
and Kip. Well, I appreciate that, Jason. You're very kind
to me. I think I thank you for that.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Over on Entropy, we have three US dollars from Eh.
I recognize that username, but I don't remember who you are.
For three US dollars, he says, Hunger, great chat this evening.
Speaker 3: Pete.
Speaker 1: I love you, fella. I'm eating a potato pancake for
you right now. I know who that is, Pete.
Speaker 3: Pete, I don't know who that is, but potato pancakes.
But potato pancakes are great potato.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I muted for
a second. Yeah, I know, I know who that is.
But yeah, he's speaking. He's speaking on my Polish side
right now. Is like, now I want potato pancakes, and
just the only way to potato pancakes is just put
it in your hand and take a slab of sour
cream and then roll it up like a like a
freaking canoli.
Speaker 6: Stop.
Speaker 1: Potato pancakes and sour cream. That's that's the real ship
right there. That's that's East European glory. That's good stuff.
Speaker 4: I've never had that. We don't really have any polex
around here.
Speaker 5: You miss l That's one of the best things about
in Europe is potato pancakes.
Speaker 6: They kick ass.
Speaker 1: Well, oops, wrong button. We just did the Black Dragon,
which means we only have two left. We have a
basket of garbage from the red and f's for Fred
and peanut Pequan. One is you are the party leader.
Do you want to pick the next topic or have
a party member do the next topic?
Speaker 2: Hunger? Why don't you pick the next tar? Next target.
Speaker 3: Let's have fun. Let's do basket of garbage. Okay.
Speaker 1: Moving over to New York Post, Biden brands Trump supporters garbage,
sparking fury among Republicans as White House tries to cover
for him. I so most of you have already heard
of this daring. I'll just read it real quick. President
Biden branded Donald Donald Trump supporters garbage on Tuesday, at
the same time as his Vice president and successor, Kamala
Harris tried to pitt herself at the Democratic Party as
unifiers and truth challenged closing appeal to voters. The eighty
one year old sitting duck president, who has largely been
sidelined from campaigning for Harris, delivered the shocking insult as
he railed against Kill Tony podcast host Tony Hinchcliff's bit
during Trump's Sunday night rally. During English, the comedian called
Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage. The only garbage
I see out there is his supporters. Ho ho ho.
All right, that's enough of that. We don't need to
read anymore. With that, Let's go ahead and move to
the Red Dragon, which is this badass bella Coast dragon.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 1: I know iv In the Horrible and Chat will like
this dragon. He likes my Bello Coast dragons all right.
The Red with us tonight was once known as a
sky Tyrant, a mighty red dragon warrior who commands other
dragons in the flying war machines of the Empire. He
served the Empire's battle forces for four hundred years before
retiring to be an honored ambassador for his clan. He
keeps a sharp eye on Earth, and he's learned a
lot about us in the last few decades. His question
tonight is about the odd social warfare that we wage.
Hunger Merchant, this question comes to you first, my friend.
How effective is the labeling of political enemies with negative
terms like deplorable or garbage? Do you believe it's a
tactic which will work for our side of the war.
Speaker 3: I believe because the left can't meme, and because these
are humorless, humorless cat ladies and boomers, they have no
they have no idea what they're doing. I mean, it's
it's backfired every single time they've done it. Everyone remembers
the deplorables, in Biden's case, specifically, I refuse, I refuse,
I genuinely believe Biden is working for Trump from behind,
from behind enemy lines. So he's just helping out his
good friend Don in the election to take out you
know that. Yeah, the help, but uh do it do
I believe this this tactical work for our site. It's
very it's very powerful to to label your enemies. It's
very powerful to libel your enemies. A lot of I
mean there's a lot of historical examples of that. I
mean famously the Nazis were branded by their enemies as Nazis.
But it works for our side because we turn because
we are the side of truth and humor. We have
we have Tony freaking Hitchcliff on our side as well,
so we have all we have all the best comedians
and very powerful. Yeah, it's it's the humor is powerful.
When you take your enemy's label and turn it into
a positive that that's actual, real power. And so that's
why the left camp meet it just it just never
works for their side.
Speaker 1: And also, I mean I do think words are powerful,
Like like we weren't conquered and and turned into these
self loathing, white guilted consumer drones with with terrorism and
bombs and guns. It was words, and id is that
that warped us and made us this way?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Well said, so who wants to take this question next?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean when you see something that really, if
I'm autistic about anything, it's about people using political labels wrong.
Like when people say that Kamala Harris is Kamala Harris
is a Marxist. Really, that's insulting Marxists. Marxians were some bad,
bad ass pipe pitters, you know who would yeah, personally
put bullets in like hundreds and thousands of people. She's
just a tool of a foreign She's just another tool
of a foreign power.
Speaker 3: So she's just a tool period.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well yeah, so I just want people say what,
figure out what someone is and say it and if
they are, I mean, yep, there it's hard to come
up with a good term for like, oh, you're owned
by a foreign power, but that's what it is. I mean,
the Left wants to play these games where they just
pick out a stupid word and use it against their
enemy and then you know, their enemy, their enemy just
adopts it for themselves and it's just dumb. They don't know.
You say, definitely, the left can't mean because they are
trying to meme when they do that, but it I
don't even know how useful this useful it is anymore.
It's just basically, I mean, we're in the Schmidt, We're
into Schmidt territory. It's friend enemy, it's a dialectic and
that's that's where we are. And just the way I
look at it, there are a lot of people who
call themselves right wing who I considered be enemies, and
I consider myself to be right wing, although so many
people would be like, well, no, you if you believe
in the state, that just means you're left wing and
that's just libertarian, artistic nonsense, yeah, nonsense words, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I really don't care about the terms left
and right at all, Pete. I just care what's right.
I care what's true, and I care what's good for
my people. I guess that makes me about as far
right as you can get though by that metric.
Speaker 3: But I just know that that makes you woke right,
you know, according according to.
Speaker 1: Something Oh no, no, no, don't bring that crack up.
Speaker 6: I would just agree with.
Speaker 3: You that talk about talking about something that doesn't.
Speaker 5: Style it being a Marxist broken crown. Every Bolshevik or
Stalinist pipe hitter. There are a hundred sort of low
information Marxists that just sort of cling to the basic
summaries of it without really understanding it.
Speaker 2: But I mean, if they don't understand that they're not
not a Marxist, it's like someone calling themselves It's like
someone calling themselves a fascist. Who when you mentioned, you know,
like Giovanni Gentila, They're like who, So, well you then
you don't know what fascism is?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then you essentially leave out anyone who is
an intellectual is the problem. And these are both mass movements,
so by definition, right, they need to have a mass component.
So how do you refer to the mass component knowing
that they are not going.
Speaker 7: To understand the you know, intricacies I'm going to call
I'm not going to call some Russian who was on
some Russian who was on the Eastern Front fighting, you know, fighting.
Speaker 2: The the National Socialist invasion a Marxist because he's out
there fight. Yeah, I just I refuse, I refuse to
do that.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 6: I think that labeling can be extremely effective if it's
done right.
Speaker 2: You know, I think mark means any Marxist doesn't mean
anything any more than fascist means anything anymore. Nobody knows
what those terms mean. I mean, it's just all it is.
It's like I mean, they call I remember talking to
some fucking boomer in twenty twenty who I told them.
I said, Joe Biden is like center, He's center left,
it's all.
Speaker 4: He's like, no.
Speaker 2: No, yeah. I'm like he's like, no, he's a communist.
I'm like, when has he ever called for the season
and the means of production, you stupid fucking boomer.
Speaker 4: He's also like rejected being called a socialist of during
his campaign in twenty.
Speaker 1: Well, because he's not. Like, it's just it's just objectively
false to call like this is why in some of
the I know, I haven't written a lot from my substack,
but in some of my writings on substack, I talk
about this, how it's ineffective and useless to try to
label our political enemies or cultural enemies. Is like Marxists
or Nazis or communists or whatever those words meant something
once upon a time. Now it's just mud slinging words
that have no real connection or meaning in people's minds
other than what they think that it is from comic
books and movies and crap whatever the talkie boxmas think.
Speaker 2: Thomas seven seven seven makes a really good point. There
is no third way in the United States. There is
no third way in the West. You're either a globalist
or you're an anti globalist. That's it. That's the dialectic.
You're either anti globalist or your globalist. And free marketeers
they're globalists. They're I mean they you cannot have free
trade with the world and not be a globalist because
then you're gonna have to make the art because a
big part of that is labor, and you want the
cheapest labor. So what are the arguments you're gonna make.
You're gonna make well. And we need all the legal
immigration that we can get to bring these sixty five
IQ fucking fruit pickers over here that are going to
fuck everything up. Yep, there's globalist, there's there's anti globalist.
There's no third position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the things that that reminds me
of one of my first conversations with old Karl Benjamin
Sargonova Cod many years ago, back in the Facebook days
of the liberalists. I made a point that left versus
right doesn't matter. Labor and tories don't matter. The real
dichotomy between people, whether it's a corporate guy or a
politician or just a regular guy who owns a small
business or works for a small business, you're you are
either for your local people and your country first, or
you're of this globalist way of thinking. That's really the
only dichotomy. That's really the only distinction, And that's why
I like to go free method. It paints everything in
this nice dialectic dichotomy of terms where you're either for
us or you're not for us. And that's really the
dichotomy that matters, not left versus right or national socialist
or communist or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, any let's talk about Marxism and you think, hmm,
what is the synthesis of globalism and anti globalism?
Speaker 6: What regionalism?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, but that's a good answer.
Speaker 5: So like so to answer the dragon's question anyway. Yeah, Look,
labeling can be very very effective. This I think Sololensky
said it better. This is why I would try and
to find, you know, something like Marxism as a in
a value free way, as a set of political tactics.
Speaker 6: That can really be used by anyone. You know, what
is it?
Speaker 2: You said?
Speaker 5: You name your target, freeze it, and isolate it, right,
so you So naming is part of that process where you.
Speaker 6: Associate like a certain thing or behavior, preferably a sort of.
Speaker 5: Necessary part of your opponent's political worldview, as a certain
negative thing, and then, you know, get them to relentlessly
defend it. And if it's something that cannot be defended
or is something that is sort of unallowable in the
current thought regime, all the better.
Speaker 6: You waste your opponent's time getting them to constantly explain this.
Speaker 5: Racist is a really, really good example of this that
the left uses, you know what I mean, because it's
now come to encompass basically, you know, any kind of
soft nationalism, being against mass immigration, all these kinds of things.
Speaker 6: You can make your enemy sort of run around.
Speaker 5: In circles by just going, oh, I'm not a racist,
I'm not racist, I'm not racist. And why they're doing that,
They're not getting their ideas out there. It puts them
on the defensive. Yeah, I think I think it's it's
bound to work. Humans and narrative beings and the way
that people sort of construct the political world generally speaking,
is through narratives, and the more low information the person,
the more simple all these narratives, which is why you
know things like you know, Joe Biden as a communist,
for example, is popular. You know, person I don't like
is bad thing a big shook, right like that happens,
That happens all the time. Yeah, I think, but you know,
I think you can do it too far. I'm seeing
this thing in the US selection. It's making me wonder.
So as a story came out that the UK Labor
Party it sent a bunch of political advisors over to
Kamala's campaign to try and get them to replicate the
victory that they had with kirs Starmer. I don't know
why they thought this would work. Kirstarm was only voted
in because everyone hated the incumbent so much. And I mean,
I don't know whether anyway, but one of the tactics
that Labor was sort of known for using, and also
failed massively under Jeremy Corbyn, by the way, was just
guilt tripping people into voting. And I have seen a
massive slew of these kinds of like things recently in
the past couple of weeks. It seems to be the
only message that the Harris campaign has left apart from
you know, Trump is mustache man and Trump will destroy
the world. You know, you're a bad person if you
don't vote. You know, you can vote secretly. You don't
have to tell your friends, like, don't worry about the
social pressure. So yeah, you've got You've got to be careful.
If you use it too much, you can backfind you.
Speaker 1: All right, anyone else I want to take this one
and have something to say on it.
Speaker 4: A big shook. I'm literally vibrating here. I think that, Yeah,
the whole thing with labeling the political enemies, it's genuinely
really effective with people who already agree with the label.
I think Trump has mastered this with me coming up
with all the silly names and whatnot and and reclaiming
the names that are used against his people. Like news says,
you've got to do it the right way. You got
to you got to have an instinct for it. You
have to, you know, have the zegeist for it. I think,
you know, meetball Ron is a great name, right, isn't it?
It really works? And I think turning around deplorables in
our little basket of deplorables, Yeah, I'm a bad Yeah,
I'm a deplorable What of it? What do you want if?
If you think I'm a deplorable, Yeah, I'm deplorable because
nobody should should respect you, Nobody should should see your
judgment as reliable, and no one should treat you with respect.
Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve any any of that from anyone.
And although that's not gonna work within their circles, it's
certainly going to stick and give us unity. It's not
about it's it's one of those things that's not about
reaching outside. It's not outreach. It's about hardening the base.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 4: I think that's when it works. You can't use it
towards your enemies, because your enemies will rejected. It'll just
be an inside joke at most. That could again be banter.
That's good within your own group, but it tends to
not be good for outreach because you can't call your
enemies a bunch of You can't use at home with
your enemies. You could use them, you know, for your enemies,
because you don't expect to work with your enemies even slightly.
But the independence it might take them off. It's why
I don't I tend to not resort to it whenever
I'm talking to someone I don't immediately agree with, because
you know, being respectful to such people might bring them
over to my side or might radicalize them in the
other direction. It's just not a good way to.
Speaker 1: Treat people who you actually respect. Agreed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anything else contribute?
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's fine, No, it's fine, anything else from anybody.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm ALTI well, I'd just like to call people assholes.
Speaker 3: It is satisfying, isn't it very satiny? But I just
wanted to add, sorry, is I do have to balance
in a little bit. I have OGC chapter business to
take care of.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit earlier. I do have to bounce though,
before you go real quick.
Speaker 1: Then let me do these paid chats because they might
be for you. Because I saw three more come in
from Eh. Let me read these from fantastic. Thank you,
EH for all of these wonderful donations. I appreciate it
for three dollars, He says, Hunger, I just talked to
you for like forty five minutes, and then.
Speaker 2: Says he doesn't mind. It's eric. Yeah, yeah, oh that's great.
Speaker 1: Okay, Eh says for three dollars. Again, my ken in
the North were piled by pills and replied by pills
in despair. These d industrialized areas that are now being
repopulated by foreigners, it's all just natural. It's all happening
in a vacuum. Guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in Pennsylvania. He's in Pennsylvania. That's where my
mom's family is from Western PA. And yeah, it's just
all getting infested by I mean Haitians and like Charloroi Pennsylvania. Yeah,
but I mean, if you ask Eric, it's a hell
of a lot of fucking Pajeets too.
Speaker 1: Yep, there's a whitewell being. Guy I talk to who's
who is from and I don't know if he still
lives there or not, but I know that his hometown's
in Northern PA. And he said it's just been wide
erased like during his lifetime, like it went from a nice, quiet,
you know, little Christian white town in Pennsylvania to everybody
worth a crap moving out because someone keeps pumping in
African and Hasian and Asian foreigners and just floods through town.
And now it's just an absolute crap hole that everybody
worked that everybody who could lift, and it's just Springfield.
Speaker 2: Springfield, Ohio is no longer an American city. I mean,
unless they unless they send all of those Haitians out
of there, unless they rip them out of there and
send them send them back, that's it's just port out
Prince in Ohio. I mean, that's what it is. I've
heard is Tenny. Someone told me they said that there
there's not twenty thousand, there's thirty thousand there and all
the women are pregnant.
Speaker 1: Wow, yep, that's they do last one before, last one
before Hunger goes in case. It's for in case Eric
has something to say to you. He says, for ten
US dollars, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Eric.
Speaker 1: The leftist idea in this country, in America is we
are just fungible units, malleable units. There are no differences
between people. That's their obstensable idea. When you scratch the surface,
you know that it's more sinister. Yeah, I agree, Hunger Merchant,
thank you for being here, my friend. I hope you
and the OGC gang has a great knight.
Speaker 3: Have a great night and send those a best always
a pleasure, guys, Have a great night.
Speaker 2: Teck and take no tomorrow. See take your hunger. Best
guys from that area.
Speaker 3: Hey you guys, have a good night.
Speaker 1: Good night hunger. See like everybuddy. All right, and oh,
we just had something else coming on entropy, Thank you
so much. Stumbling for three dollars says the Brown Dragon
asks are people getting dumber? If so, is this caused
by genetics or a combination of drug stibulus and jump food.
Interesting that you chose Brown Dragon for that one. And no,
obviously we like Chris and I even covered some of
this stuff on DD before, and we even did an
empire of lies about parasites and stuff. I do think
the things that are in us, and the chemicals in us,
it does contribute to some of the problems that we
have these days. I do think that. All right, let
me refresh the other places. Since that took a while.
Let me make sure I'm not leaving anybody's paid chats
oot and it didn't think so. All right, now we
are clear to move on. Unless I missed one on
Rumble sometimes that chat moves quick. Let me scroll up
and make sure didn't miss a Rumble ramp. Oh No,
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Canadian dollars. Thank you, Ardent party two Canadian have two
Canadian dollars for introducing me to the idea of potato pancakes.
That must have been from earlier. I'm sorry I missed
that earlier art My bad. All right, let's bring back
up the topics then, And I believe that means we
only have the one left because we just did basket
of garbage, which of course means we have f's in
the chat for Fred and Peanut. And I'm sure that
everybody knows what this is going to be about, Pete.
Do you want to be the first one to answer
the question or would you like to pick someone else
to answer that question?
Speaker 2: Oh, let's get news Fest to do it, all right.
Speaker 1: News Fist, my man, you get to go first.
Speaker 6: Uh wait, so when do we went left?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, we only have the f's for Fred and Peanut.
That's why I just went right.
Speaker 6: To it, all right, Yes, yeah, I'll take that one.
Then ten points.
Speaker 1: Fans of Peanut the squirrel raise over one hundred and
fifty grand after beloved pet was euthanized by NY State
Justice for Peanut. Now, in case no one listening has
heard of the explosive meme that has been everywhere all
over the internet since yesterday. This cute little guy right
here is a TikTok star, or was, I should say,
And where's the picture of the dude this dude and
his wife are. They were using cute little TikTok animals
and their rescue animals to raise money to have like
a wildlife range type of thing, and some negative nancy
called in some kind of threat and without their knowledge,
these people had a raid on their property and they
were basically held by state officials for five hours while
a bunch of fed goons went through their entire property
looking for a raccoon named Fred and a squirrel named Peanut.
I don't have a picture up of Fred, but there
was a raccoon named Fred in the story too. And
they were taken by the federal authorities and instead of
and they said that they had to test them for rabies.
Well they didn't just put them in a cage and
observe them. No, the Feds, the dirty ass, evil, anti
white scumbag Feds, killed the squirrel Peanut and the raccoon
Fred and dissected their brains to test for rabies instead
of just observing them for a week in a cage,
and that I find to be absolutely despicable and evil,
and so I feel bad for Mark and Danniella Longo.
I feel bad for them, and I feel bad just
in every way.
Speaker 3: That this happened.
Speaker 1: So if you want to donate to them, you can
go find it. They have a GoFundMe and they've raised
over one hundred and fifty grand now, and I do
believe that they plan on taking legal action against the
Feds for this, so they definitely have my support. So
let's go ahead now and move to the last dragon
of the evening, which is the Green Dragon, which is
this badass guy here, the Green with us tonight is
a nature guardian of an important nexus of lay energy
which his clan have guarded for thousands of years. He
of course appreciates the myriad creatures of nature, including humans,
and does a want to see unnecessary harm come to
any of us. That being said, when harm does occur,
it's best to make your peace with the loss and
use the experience as best as you can. So Newsfist,
here's the question. Do you think cultural phenomenon like peanut
and harambi are useful for our side? Is there real
value in these things or is it just culture war slop.
Speaker 5: I can't speak about Harambi, that's a little before my time.
But Peanut, absolutely the reason why this story ignited is
not because it's a squirrel, but because it's an example
of the overbearing and overweening state, the fact that the
state has far too much reach into the lives of
ordinary citizens in and everyone. Everyone feels this in the West, right,
this is a relatable story. Everyone feels at the mercy
of the state. Everyone feels that the state is partial
and capricious.
Speaker 6: One feels that there is no there's nothing.
Speaker 5: I mean this probably varies from place to place, but
in the UK especially, there's no real feeling that anything
you do is fully legal, right because if the state
wants to get you, they're going to get They can
make something up. Oh you said a bad word ten
years ago. Ah you you know you've got this. They
raide your house and you know, find something right like this.
This is the general vibe, and people are sick of it.
I mean, no one, no one really wants to live
under a tyranny. I mean that that pretty much is
the functional definition of what a tyranny is. Right when
you feel completely naked in front of the state, that
you feel that there is there is no justice that
you as a citizen just you know, the state can
just do whatever the hell it wants. That really is
is a tyranny and there is value in this. Interestingly enough,
tons of people have been tweeting about an arcotyranny in
relation to Peanut, have been posting we.
Speaker 1: Need to get the Mariam power of Live's episode on that.
Speaker 6: Yes, I've been I've been sub tweeting that at people.
I think that.
Speaker 5: There's another effect as well that people are wondering again,
particularly in the UK, but also in the US. Uh,
you know what what has gone wrong? By by what
rationale is the state operating? You know, most people are
sort of starting from this boomer assumption that you know,
the the state you know, exists for the good of
the people or some other you know, clap trap. And
until people are disabused of this notion, they're not really
going to have any way of pushing back because they
still believe that everything the state does, no matter how
bad it is, is just a mistake. You're you're seeing
this in the UK, the the government is about to
completely destroy both the food system and the energy, and
people are going like, h how could they be so
stupid that it's it's not it's not stupidity.
Speaker 6: I do not believe at this point that it is stupidity.
You cannot tell me that.
Speaker 5: Someone's like, oh, you know, let's light all the fields
on fire and then be like, oh gee, I had
no idea that everyone's going to start right. Either we
are people in government are literally functionally retarded and you know,
unable to complete a sentence, or they are doing this,
you know, at least quasi deliberately. So yes, I think
there is real value in every day representations of the
overreach of the state. Plus you know how white people
love their small furry animals, right like, you know, this
was a particularly just white people things story, really, you know,
And so yes, I think that does help us.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, all right, who's next? You'll take this one next.
Speaker 4: I think I think it's gonna be funny if this
is the thing that that like wins the election in
the end, Is this like the November slot for like
the memes of the year, peanut wearing little cowboy hat?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, yeah, I reckon, Sorry, I mean I
don't know it's something to start of November, mate, something
more crazy what happened to be honest, For.
Speaker 4: All we know, it could be like some politician with
a gun to their head, whatever random.
Speaker 6: Ship politician does, like a mass shooting or something like that. Sorry,
I should even say that.
Speaker 4: Jesus, I thought I was giving edgy with the suicide.
Oh then again, there is that that There is that
AI gen rendering. You know that that AI generation of
like November fifth, twenty four, and it's just tons of
dead people. It's horrendous and ominous. But yeah, I think
it is useful. I think, like you said, Newsfist, it's
it's positive because it exposes the state for what it
is and narco tyranny. It made people naked to the state.
It basically they had their lives turned upside down. In
the five hours that that they were raiding their house,
they were like demanding to know the wives immigration status. Right,
I don't even understand that. It's just as much as
I understand the narco tyranny. It's just like this is
just this is just beyond random. I can only imagine
they did that to just.
Speaker 1: Further out, I have to interrupt you with a hilarious comment.
Oh no, and it's also sad no pe Nut November.
Oh yeah, it was pretty clever, John. That's a good one.
Speaker 4: Peanuts out for Peanut.
Speaker 2: I think the answer is both. I think it's culture
warslop and has real value. Yeah, I mean it's something
you can use, but it's it's slop, and slop is
fine to use. I mean, let's face it, Harambi. The
whole Harambi thing was slop again. But it's just anything
that it's a narrative and to be able to have
something to build a narrative around that people care about.
You know, when when July thirteenth happened in Trump, you
know Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, people were like immediately immediately,
so many people on our side were like two shooters,
three shooters? Was it a standdown order? I'm like, the
narrative is the press has been talking, has been calling him, Hitler,
has been calling him, and they took a shot at him.
If they'll take a shot at him, they'll take a
shot at you. That was the narrative that everyone should
have ran with. But no, it's there's someone on the
WaterTower and oh look the bullet came for this way?
Was he How could he be nineteen and not have
any electronics down the road? You asked those questions, but
not at the moment. Yeah, yeah, right, the right, The
right is terrible or you know, whatever you want to
call it. The you know, the anti globalists are terrible
at creating their own narratives. Well, I think we're getting
I think we're getting better at that. And I think,
you know, narratives. You know, it was Martin was the
one who created the whole narrative around they're eating cats
and dogs and everything. Yeah, and that was just that's
in a non on Twitter who did that? And it
got it made it all the way to Trump's mouth. So,
I mean, that's these are the you have to look
for things that are narrative building, and you know, having
Marc Andreessen, billionaire was was tweeting Sam Francis's article about
a narco tyranny yesterday. That's the these are white pills.
These are things that you have to look at and
you have to go, Okay, if billionaires are talking about this,
if billionaires are like you know, if a billionaire is
like if Trump that if if Trump doesn't win, Kamala
is basically going to put me in jail. Like Musk said,
I don't know if she'll put him in jail, but
they'll take everything from him, they'll destroy him. Yeah, you know,
and he has that attitude of he's actually said, they
killed my son, why did you?
Speaker 1: That's the right that's the right mindset by the way
he should have that. I want him to have that mindset.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that you're seeing. What you're seeing in real
time is something that I've been tracking for about a
year now, is that billionaires are getting radicalized. And then
I have friends behind the scenes who are very, very successful,
very wealthy, very in these groups, very intertwined with these
what you would call at least what we would call
the modern day robber barons. And they're they're sharing one
ten memes in their private groups. They're asking people about
their hedge fund managers, are contacting you a friend of
mine and asking him, all right, so tell me about
the USS liberty or asking him tell me about that
thing that happened in the nineteen forties.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's let's off and go.
Speaker 2: So I think we're doing you know, I think our
side by putting these things out there turning him into tropes,
turning him into memes, turning him into it's it's in
the zeitgeist. And once it gets into the zeitgeist of
boomer billionaires, change can be made. Can being the operative
word there because they're going to fight tooth and nail
to do whatever they can.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, I want to address it.
Speaker 5: Go go ahead, you no, I'm just going to say
that that's a great point. Never undrest the room, millionaires.
That's a bit of a white pill paint.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Also also one thing that you have to allow for.
And I've done this, you know. I used to be
a hardcore libertarian, a narhoo capitalist. On Amazon Prime right now,
there is a movie that me and two of my
friends made, a documentary about a narho capitalism. I was
that guy, and I changed my mind. I didn't change
my mind to grift because I lost half of my
income when I did it, you know, so that was
kind of stupid. I did it because I changed my mind.
Boomers can change their minds. Billionaires can change their minds.
Allow people to change their minds, give them a chance
to change their minds. And I understand the urge of
being skeptical but give it a shot. Marc Andreessen is
one of the most powerful people in the world, and
he's been sharing telling people to read James Burnham, telling
people to read books like The Ancient City. He's been sharing,
share ing Sam Francis articles nice saying there are things
happening behind the scenes. There are things happening that you
should be white pilled about. It's not going to happen overnight.
If you think it's going to happen overnight, you're restarted.
But things are moving and this is this is the
kind of thing. These are the kind of signals that
you have to look for if you're hoping to see
things move in the direction, in the right direction. It does.
Speaker 5: It does sound a bit like a war in heaven,
which is what I was speculating about this like a
while back. You know, Yeah, a certain part of the
moneyed elite actually splits off and becomes our guys, Like
it's it's going to be very very interesting. You know,
there's being unanimity among the capitol class for quite a while.
I mean not completely, but sort of, you know, broadly speaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the reasons why what you were talking
about a minute ago, Pete That's one of the reasons
I brought that go Free book to our conventions, and
that's why I like to push the rhetoric of it,
because I would love of for rich, powerful, old white
guys to start using terms like anti whitism and anti
white and white erasure and stuff like. Imagine how powerful
that would be if somebody like an Elon Musk came
out and was like, uh, you know, this biological white
erasure of our people because of mass migration has to stop.
Like just imagine the power of that rhetoric if it
would come out of the mouths of people like that.
Speaker 2: Do you find I mean, do any of you follow
Elon on Twitter?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's tweeted about the Great Replacement.
Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, he has clearly become radicalized.
Speaker 6: Like yeah, yeah, he's taking.
Speaker 2: Fucking South Africa.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been very dedicated on Elon Musk. I've been telling
people for years, like, dude, he's on the journey. He
was a libertarian just a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's getting there.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be throwing up romansin and what are we
gonna do?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 1: I think I would keep my comments to myself on
that one for now.
Speaker 6: I Tesla bot to like walk around and throw rnes. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Did you say a video going around today of that
little robot dog that's somebody programmed to follow people and
call them racial celesti.
Speaker 4: But the yellow one that's an old one too.
Speaker 6: That's awesome and of course the women love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw that going around my circles today and
it gave me a chuckle before we move on. I
saw a little our fox friend here she says in America,
you can't even drink wine on a picnic. That one
always really got me. I don't know what you're referencing
because where I live it because remember America is a
massive place, and public behavior and drinking and drug laws
are different state to state, county to county. Where I live.
You can take a cooler beer out to the park.
Everybody can drink like you can. Like, it's completely legal
to like carry guns and have booze as long as
you're like not within I think what is like three
hundred yards or four hundred yards of a church around
here or something like that, or not a church, a
church or a school like zone. Stuff on booze consumption
and firearm and public firearms is very different. All across America.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what.
Speaker 1: You're referencing exactly, but that might have just been where
you visited in America or where you live, because it's
definitely not like that where I live. You just wanted
to comment on that, guys.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Yeah, where I live, where I love. If you
if you start yelling at someone about taking a bottle
of wine into the park, you're not going to make it.
Speaker 1: Here's the problem.
Speaker 3: It was in New York.
Speaker 1: That's the problem.
Speaker 2: Upstate New York is usually pretty red. Yeah, but they
might have to have all them. They couldn't have wine
on a picnic, who knows they.
Speaker 1: I've heard from people who live outside of New York
City in New York States say that it's because of
the cancerous leadership of the state that makes the laws
there suck, even though obviously people outside the city are
more normal.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, laws are made to be broken, especially that one.
Speaker 4: It just makes the people redder and redder and redder
because they have no control over their own state, and
then eventually leads into some sort of supermajority in the
state legislature or something.
Speaker 1: Hmm, let us pray that leads to something good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to get out of here in eight minutes.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, let's just do this.
Speaker 2: Also, also, he is I asked you a question in
the private chat. If you're it's right above the yes.
Speaker 1: No, oh uh no, I am not. I'm sorry. Okay,
I would like to one one year, but this year
was not the year. I can't make it. Maybe next,
no problem, Yeah, all right, over on injury. We'll do
these before Pete has to go. It's Eric again. He's
got two more. Oh, we've got Irish Christ the will
being Warrior up in Canada. We'll do Irish Christ first
for three US dollars, he says, and anti sim uh,
I don't understand this, and yeah, that's right. And anti
semi is always an anti white first. Hence big Satan,
Little Satan. The great non white re remigration from North
America is the compassionate and moral path to take, considering everything.
Speaker 2: He means, something that he means something different there, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well thank you for the three dollars. Uh.
If you're saying you shouldn't hate them, you should just
repatriate them. I agree with that, with that sentiment, I
am not a hater either. I don't want people to
like ethnically cleanse or beat up random people because of
their demographic traits in the street. I do think that's
very wrong and you shouldn't do that. But I do
think that repatriation of immigrants is a necessary thing that
we should do as morally and ethically as possible.
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, Michael Jones says, let's make them Catholics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, based uh, Eric, and again for three US
dollars to so much, He says, the food system in
the United States is going the same way. Taxpayers are
paying farmers to produce nothing. Inflation works in several ways. Yeah,
there's a lot of messed up stuff with subsidies and
farming regulations and stuff that I don't even understand, but
I've heard that it really messes things up.
Speaker 2: Farmer for yourself. My wife, we ate so much food
out of the backyard this year. It's amazing.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you should definitely do that, But I can't wait
for that to reverse back to paying farmers to make
more and then you know the price is plummeting. Can't
wait for it. American farmers, Yes, American farmers. That's the
important distinction.
Speaker 1: Irish christ I did not mean to impugne upon you.
My inability to read and understand things is not an
insult to your grammar. You always write very well and precise.
I know how you are. The fault is mine, sir,
not yours. Eric, and again for fifteen dollars, thank you, buddy.
Speaker 5: Is.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, during the COVID quote emergency Battle, ranchers
were being ordered to slaughter their herds. Why meat is
a commodity? Perhaps I was saying these things as a libertarian.
Libertarians that I knew were putting the flag up. Jim
Davidson was saying this, we were ordered to stop commerce.
Speaker 2: Well, that's yeah, that's something that Stormy Waters talks about.
He said that we were in They knew that they
were going to have to print so much money to
get out of a sovereign debt crisis that they had
to stop commerce. That's that was the reason for the
lockdowns and everything. And that's one of the reasons why
thick commodities like chickens and herds were so that they
weren't there too. More money wasn't being used to pay
for them. There was a lot, There was a lot
about twenty twenty that people don't realize that. You know,
that was pretty much about money. It was about the
sovereign debt crisis and printing trillions to send overseas to
bail banks out again and didn't hasn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And even though I don't think it was a
primary reason, it did have a benefit of destroying a
lot of small businesses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, yeah, I think that was on
purpose too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was on purpose. But I agree
with you. I don't think it was the main thing,
but I do think that was also something that made
them happy for three US dollars. Eric And again, the
only person that I've heard that said we were ordered
to stop commerce since Jim Davidson said it in twenty twenty.
Stormy Waters. Okay, yeah, yeah, back in there agreeing with you.
Speaker 2: Don't listen to Stormy. I just released two hours and
fifteen minutes with him, and he has a very good
Warhane knowledge of like tariffs and how they would work
and how fantastic how we could run the you know,
and it was a Twitter space. I apologize Twitter spaces there.
The audio is not always as good, and it's hard
for me to release those because I pride myself. I'm
putting good audio out there, but totally interesting there and
you will love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what, Pete. I love having you here.
I know you have to go, but in the minute
you have left, why don't you tell everybody why did
you come? Check you out and what you have to
offer on your channel? And I just shared your link
and all the chat.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I my show's not about anything in particular.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: If I want to talk about If I want to
talk about World War Two, We're going to do twenty
five episodes on World War Two. If I want to
talk about you know, London's State and Revolution, We're going
to read the whole book and talk about it on
the show. If I just want to have a conversation
with Hunger like I released last week about you know,
politics and culture and Lebanon, That's what I'm going to do.
So I think the thing is is that I use
it as a means of learning, getting people on who
can teach me something, and I think a lot of
people get a lot out of it by being able
to learn new things. Thomas and I are doing a
series now on the left. Hegelien, Eric Hobbsbaum that most
people don't know about. He's probably the dialectic lincenthesis of
Ernst Nulty for the twentieth century. And you know, people
are like, I can't. I didn't even know that I
would be interested in this. So trying to do different
things over there. I do three substacks a week, substack videos.
My substack is Pete substack dot com. And of course
I cannot leave without talking about the Old Glory Club
doing amazing things. We're gonna have a stream tomorrow night,
starting a seven thirty Eastern, just seeing what happens through
the night, seeing if there are any meltdowns by by journalists.
Hopefully journalists seek Canadian healthcare on air. That would be beautiful.
We're gonna and you know, we're gonna have some fun.
And also the Old Glory Club, as he has knows
because she has been and and newsfist. I've been to
our our to our inaugural conference, and we have some
great people. I think at that conference we probably had
more doctors and people in law school and lawyers per head,
per capita, and probably any other conference you'll ever go to.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was it was impressive. The number of
successful men and young men that were there is very impressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So check out the Old Glory Club Theold
Glory Club dot com and if you are interested in
joining a chapter near you, reach out. If you're interested
in starting a chapter, reach out. No guarantees. We gatekeep
and that's something that most people fail to do. I
think it's the reason why our country is in the
condition it's in. We didn't gate key people coming in here,
and foreigners came in here and turned us into a
foreign country.
Speaker 1: So, yep, amen, thank you for being here. Brother. I
hope you guys have a wonderful time on the trip
going to the thing that I won't name publicly, and
I hope that I get to see you and your
wonderful missus at the next meetup. And I hope you
have a very blessed holiday season and send my best
to her as well.
Speaker 2: Yep, thank you news Fist, and thank you three of twelve.
Very nice to meet you, great chatting with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take care, brother, We'll see you next time. Yep.
All right, well guys, that was the final dragon of
the evening.