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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of Your Wrong

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with Molly Hemingway and David Harsani. Just a reminder, if

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you'd like to email the show, please do so at

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radio atth Federalist dot com. We'd love to hear from you. So, Molly,

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did you watch the opening ceremonies of the Olympics in

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Paris the other day?

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Speaker 2: I did not, and I sort of would have watched

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them even after they were done, but I saw the

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blasphemy and so I just did not feel like watching them,

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so I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Are you an Olympics fan in general, because I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain this, but I was

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a super Olympics fan, Like as a kid, I really

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enjoyed watching the Olympics. I am one of those people

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you hate, you know, a nationalist. I get super into

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the US. I'm a patriot. I know that's noxious for you.

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Speaker 1: So it is good. Nationalists is different. But I don't

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want to get into that. Why are you baiting me?

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I like the USA, unlike other people

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who are anti that. So I would like get into

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winter summer, it didn't matter, totally into it. And then

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I kind of feel like something happened to the coverage

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of it that annoyed me. So instead of it being

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you know, Bob Costas out there talking about the deep

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values of America and how great it was to do it,

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it became this, like everything else, you know, everything woke

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turns to bad things, as a great president once said,

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And it just kind of got annoying to me. And

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so I just got less and less interested that as

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it got less patriotic, I got less interested.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm not a fan of like individual sports

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as them. So listen, I like the Olympics if there

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are people with skates on playing the Soviet Union, Like,

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that's what I like about the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: You stopped liking the Olympics in nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 1: I probably watched it a few other, you know times,

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but I didn't. I didn't feel super invested. Obviously, I

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root for the US, But I will say, and I'm older,

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but I do think that once the Soviet Union fell,

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the Olympics kind of lost that good versus evil narrative

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and storyline that goes on. Sure you can root against

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Gambia or whatever country.

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Speaker 2: Right China red, China is a great country to root

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against if you're an American who loves America.

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Speaker 1: It's like the only time I watched soccer is that

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World Cup. And all my positions and rooting interests are geopolitical,

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you know what I mean. Like I'm like France in Germany,

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who do I hate more here? But I don't know.

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I just can't get into the Olympics. Haven't really been

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into them at all. But so let's talk about the blasphemy.

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My favorite part of that is how all these experts

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and history professors got on to explain Dionysus to me

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and how it was actually a Dutch painting from the

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thirteen hundreds that I'm offended by when clearly it was

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mocking Christians, which I just want to say, yeah, all right,

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you can be offended, but it's so boring already. It

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was boring in nineteen eighty seven when people were putting

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paintings and extrement or crosses. It's boring now, you know

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what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if I agree with that.

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I heard so many people say this, Oh, the real

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sin was not the blasphemy against God. It's that it

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was boring. It is true that it was cliched. It's

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true that it was overdone hundreds of years ago, but

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I still think the reason why it works is because

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Jesus is powerful, and also blasphemy is intended to be offensive.

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It achieves its goal, and it's something to be opposed. Tom.

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I'm not saying do a Charlie hebdo style murder the

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people who are blaspheming or mocking God. I'm just saying

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neither should it be just aay, oh, let's not worry

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about this at all. People should care more about yeah,

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not having this type of thing happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, having written a book about Europe recently, it

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was unsurprising that this happened. And you know, as a

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person who's not you know, religious or anything, I found

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it worrying. But I want to say also just in general,

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and I think I tweeted this, but if anyone really

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wanted to do transgressive art, it would be a figurative

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painting of a heterosexual couple with their three children and

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their dog in front of a split ranch in the suburbs.

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Like that is the most aggressive thing you can do.

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Speaker 2: We need to save this for when I assume we're

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going to talk about the campaign but I'd like to

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actually explore that you are. When I envisioned it, I

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was like, oh, that's kind of shocking, intact family and

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in a happy marriage. Oh shocking. We don't do art

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life like that anymore. Okay, I want to say one

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other things. A lot of people focused on the trans

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send up, you know, the l gbtqy a transcend up

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of the Last Supper plus sorry, but I also thought

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it was interesting the beheading of Marie Antoinette, which I

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also didn't watch, so keep that in mind. But did

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you see that about I didn't apparently like a pretty

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good metal performance, but it involved like delightful send up

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of the beheading of Marie Antoinette, which also seemed like

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maybe France should be revisiting what they did there in

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that Marie Antoinette was murdered by mobs. And I would

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recommend to people to read the letter she writes to

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her sister upont Like immediately before her execution. It is

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so touching and beautiful and Christian and heartbreaking because she

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clearly does not realize that her son is about to

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be killed too, so she's talking about how to help

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them handle their lives and doesn't realize that her son

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is going to be brutally sexually abused and otherwise and

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left for dead. This reminds me that I was talking

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with a friend who listens to Federalist Radio hour, and

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when I was talking about Marie Antoinette and talking about

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that letter, he sent me Charles the First Scaffold speech,

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which is also amazing also you know, wrongly executed monarch

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and talks about his innocence, but also very Christian forgiveness

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and cares about the health of the country. I'm sure

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we'll have people, maybe we'll have people Republicans, anti monarchists

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upset about this. But so we were talking about it

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and he goes, Okay, when you get to the you know,

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culture portion of the podcast, you have to mention that

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we were talking about these things. And he was like, oh,

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you know, say, after you say what you did for culture,

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I'll say, oh, you went to a violent Femis concert

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my friends and I read the last words of murdered

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monarchs just for fun. So I'm gonna know that's my

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culture part.

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Speaker 1: That's a very high brow culture. I'm more lowbrow and

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my cultural taste we're middle brow, middle brow.

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Speaker 2: Did you know speak Oh I shouldn't. I should be

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saving this, but it was the On Sunday, we commemorated

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the anniversary of the death of Johann Sebastian Bach at

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church and it was fun, and so another friend of

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mine and I just listened to Saint Matthew's passion for that.

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We'll save this exciting commentary for later.

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Speaker 1: This podcast does remind me of the French Revolution and

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that you are not you are just doing whatever you want,

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blowing up the order that we discussed five minutes ago.

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These segues are now no longer playing the mob of

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the French Revolution. Well let's start talk. Why don't we

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start with the campaign stuff. I mean, so there's JD. Vance.

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Everyone's talking about a comment or a few comments he

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made about childless cat women. I don't know if that

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was before I think it was before he was elected,

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but maybe he had started campaigning. I don't know. Honestly,

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I don't even really care. I'm just gonna tell you

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I don't think it's a great comment for a politician

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to make, in the sense that I would rather they say, listen,

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we're not gonna I want people to have children, because

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it's this wonderful experience, not really mock people who don't

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have kids or who have chosen a different way, you know.

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But I just don't think it's that important. I don't

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think it's going to change anything. But yet this is

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like the centerpiece of our conversation in politics when we

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have a presidential candidate, nam Kamala Harris, who was taking

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a slew of authoritarian nutso crazy positions that we're not

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even really allowed to explore anymore. Sorry, I'm just venting now,

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you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I agree. I mean, you have to be

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careful with how you talk about fraud issues related to families.

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Jd Vance is a tremendous electoral threat because he prioritizes families, families,

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child bearing, child rearing in a sea of people who

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don't do that. And so they took these comments that

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were made in fact before he ran for office, and

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we're directed not at general populations or even like people

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who seek to have children but are unable to, but

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intentionally childless Democrat politicians who make policy. So it was

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like a pretty narrow group. And really what people don't

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want to talk about is his family friendly policy work,

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which even with your legitimate objections on some of his

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economic policy is kind of a separate issue. Yeah, and

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Kamala Harris, like last Tuesday, is saying crazy stuff and

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they're like, oh, but she issued a statement a few

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days later through an anonymous spokesperson, So you're not allowed

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to talk about the things she said on air repeatedly,

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you know, for fourteen years. And it's insane. The media

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coverage of the Kamala Harris campaign is truly insane. I

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had thought we had reached Every time I think we're like,

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we're at peak debasement, we reach new levels of debasement

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by our propaganda press.

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Speaker 1: Register. Oh sorry, no go, Please like to.

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Speaker 2: Remind people we had a propaganda press that covered up

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Joe Biden's sinility beginning with the twenty twenty campaign, so

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that they could, you know, drag him across the finish line,

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along with a sort of other propaganda operations they ran.

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They they mocked, derided as misinformation or disinformation people who

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talked about that sinility every single day of the presidency

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until the moment of the first debate, at which point

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they all turned on a dime and realized they had

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to get him out if they had any chance of winning.

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In November when I said day, I mean because our

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media are just Democrats, and so they didn't start suddenly

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telling the truth about Joe Biden. In fact, they kind

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of ran an operation against him, using anonymous sources to

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leak things to make him look bad, to have him

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be out. Once they get him out, they replace. And

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the issue there is there's nobody who can take over

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the campaign funds other than Kamala Harris. So we also

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had years of everybody recognizing that in a sea of

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stupid politicians, Kamala Harris was like the top of the heap. Well,

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Mazie Herono is the top of the heap, but she's

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like way up there, and she says idiotic things, and

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she's lazy, and she's mean to her staff, and we

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knew all these things. But then, but then she became

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the only person who can be at the top of

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the ticket, and propaganda press decided that they would just

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completely reinvent her, I mean in like completely illogical ways.

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So when obviously one of the big failures of the

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Biden Harris administration is the border, and since she was

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tasked with the border issues related to Mexico and the

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Northern Triangle, countries, which is where most of the problem is.

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Everyone pointed that out, at which point the media said,

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that's a lie. She didn't have anything to do with

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the border. And then last night they were like, and

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she did a great job with the border. It's like, wait,

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was she in charge or not? Was it as bad

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as the numbers show or it wasn't great? And they're

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just there's like no limit to what they're willing to

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say to help her candidacy.

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Speaker 1: It might be the most embarrassing sycophantic press performance since Obama.

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They're like, nah, she wasn't. Kid says it right here

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in your publication. You called her the borders are. Now

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we fixed that. We went back in time and we

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revised the borders are thing axios and now that is

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no longer in play, and you're not allowed to say

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you'll be fact checked if you call her the borders are,

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which is an informal title that like The New York

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Times has been using for one hundred years, that we've

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know it's not an actual zar like we understand that.

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But they will do this pedantic fact checking that muddies

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the water so they can let you know, they can

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pretend that you know, she didn't have the job she

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did that we all know she did and she didn't

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do it. Basically, they're arguing either a, she's terrible at

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her job and she didn't do anything, or that what

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that she's good at her job, but her name wasn't

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technically czar. It doesn't even make any sense. And they

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did the same thing, by the way, for her fundraising

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for BLM racist rioters, which she did, but you have

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to get the words perfect or they're going to say

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she only fundraised for them, shouldn't actually give them money.

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Speaker 2: And then actually, on that point, Donald Trump said she

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supported the fund to bail out the BLM rioters, and

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he was fact checked as saying that was false because

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she didn't personally give money. She just ran the fundraising operation.

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millions of dollars or personally giving five dollars. You know,

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and one of them is actually much worse, and it's

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the one she did. I want to point out on

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that topic, by the way, that Isaac Arnsdorf who is

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this far far far left propagandist at the Washington Post.

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published the Dobbs decision. And Isaac also happens to be

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married to a Supreme Court clerk the year of the

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woman who was the Supreme Court clerk the of the

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Dobbs decision, and that woman happens to be a pro

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abortion activist. But this guy is crazy, far far left,

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yet the Washington Post publishes his opinion pieces as if

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they were news, And I can't remember what the article

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was about. It was an attack on Jade Vance on

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behalf of his campaign, on behalf of Isaac Arnsdorff's campaign,

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which is the Kamala Harris campaign, and a defense of

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Kamala Harris. And one of the things he said was

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that if I've got the exact thing right, he was like,

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jd Vance or Republicans are saying that Kamala supported the

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defund the Police movement, but that was before she joined

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Joe Biden's campaign and denounced it. So I immediately ask

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him by email and Twitter, like, do you have any

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substantiation for this claim that she denounced it? Now? There

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are two instances of other propaganda press claiming, like in

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a headline, they'll say she denounced it, but then when

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you go down into the actual substantiation for it, it's

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like an anonymous spokesman saying that she doesn't support it. Now,

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that's not true. It's a false claim from the anonymous spokesperson.

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sure that had she come out and said the defund

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the police movement is an attack on the country. It's

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killing black men and women. It's a vile, horrible thing,

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which is what a denunciation would be sounding like, right,

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we would have probably heard about it, right, thanks. So oh,

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all those things she did to support defund the police,

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including you know, condemning additional funds for police, that doesn't

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mean she supports defund the police. That's not a denunciations.

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Speaker 1: To see you soon until then, be lovers of freedom

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and anxious for the fray.

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Speaker 3: Weird how no one's going after CrowdStrike after their transportation meltdown.

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The watched Out on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski.

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Every day, Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and

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the economy and how it affects your wallet. While Pete

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goes after airlines like Delta, no one's saying a word

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about CrowdStrike. Remember when CrowdStrike also said Hillary's server was

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hacked by Russians. Whether it's happening in DC or down

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on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 1: Be informed.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy you brought that up. So The Hill the

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other day had a piece and here's the headline. Harris

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does not support fracking, campaign officials says, and that's it

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political As a headline, Harris campaign pledges she won't ban

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fracking after Trump accusation, which is even more ridiculous. So

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by Trump, when you put Trump accusation in the headline,

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you're intimating that it could be untrue, that it's just

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something that someone is accusing you of, not an actual

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fact that's on the record, that was reported tape in politicum. Right.

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So that is the kind of I love kind of

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deconstructing headlines and the way they talk, because it is

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it's it's sometimes it's very obvious, and sometimes it's more subtle,

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but this is obvious.

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Speaker 2: Let's just take a comparison here. Okay, when the Charlottesville

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thing happened, Donald Trump came out with a statement saying, like,

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racists are evil, this group is bad. There are good

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people on both sides of the issue of whether to

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tear down monuments, which which in my opinion, was by

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the way, way too nice, meaning I don't actually think

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people who tear down monuments are particularly great people. But

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that was his actual statement. A bunch of liars claimed

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that he was saying there were good people who were racist,

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which is not what he ever said. I think he's

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been asked about that roughly. I mean my math could

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be a little bit off, like fourteen and seventy six times, right,

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So they misunderstood, and then they made him talk about

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it that much. Okay. Comlin Harris on the record saying,

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totally want to banfracking. Fracking is evil. I support the

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most radical version of the Green New Deal. All this stuff. Right,

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They have an anonymous campaign person tell a low level

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reporter at a fourth rate publication that she doesn't believe

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it anymore, and everyone says, oh, she has changed her position. Okay, well,

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maybe we can ask her fourteen thousand, eight hundred and

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seventy six times to explain that in detail, and then

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I will possibly believe it. But zero times, like zero,

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really zero?

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Speaker 1: You're so jd Vance has to answer for why he

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said bad things about Trump in twenty fifteen. Constantly. That's

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a big story. Not one person is ever ever gonna

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ask Harris to explain her evolution, not on one issue,

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but almost literally other than abortion, on every single major

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policy position she's taken. I've noticed this, by the way.

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Once a day, someone, either through press release or some report,

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she will walk back a position. No, she doesn't want

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to get rid of private health insurance. No she doesn't

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want to ban meet. No she you know, with the fracking.

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But forget Trump, Let's just talk about Mitt Romney. He

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changed his position on abortion constantly to comport with whatever

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he was, whatever office he was running for. I looked

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it up. They were about three hundred pieces dissecting his

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alleged evolution, questioning his sincerity, asking him to explain himself.

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She can just release a press release and that's it.

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And then now if you say she's pro fracking, you

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Molly Hemingway will be fact checked by the CNN dude

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or someone else, because we've decided that you're just allowed

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to do that. First of all, why should I believe her?

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Either she was insane and has terrible judgment, she was

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a fifty something year old person at twenty twenty, or

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she's a liar and she will do an anything for power.

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But they won't let you frame it that way, or

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they will never frame it that way. So I don't

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even know how to fight back against this. It's Orwellian.

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I think that's a dumb cliche people use, But this

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is Orwellian. When you go back and you change someone's

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history in your own pieces, that's ministry of truth stuff right.

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, that also reminds me of this

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censorship industrial complex issue that reared its ugly head again.

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This is a daily issue that people who do not

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support regime narratives have to deal with, which is widespread

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censorship and manipulation of facts and information by big tech companies.

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And so some people were noticing that if you were

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wanting to look up stories or information on the assassination

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attempt on Trump, it didn't auto fill in Google Search.

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So Google Search is very close to a monopoly, has

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like ninety plus percent of all search, and you could

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type in assassination attempt of and it would You would

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sort of think that the most natural thing to autocorrect

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or autofill at that point would be Trump. No, it

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was like of Reagan or FDR or Truman. And then

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you'd start typing the T, the R, the U, the M,

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the P, and it still would not autofill. And so

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it was a clear ban on finding out information on

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that or a clear limitation on it. And they were like, oh,

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this was not done manually. This was done as part

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of our, you know, regular efforts to forbid you from

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learning about political violence. And it was like a stop

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forbidding me from learning about political violence. It's actually an

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important thing to learn about. And b why was it

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auto filling all the other examples of political violence? Like

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their lie didn't even like they were saying, we're bad

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people who censor speech and information to limit Americans' ability

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to be fully informed people. That was their defense. But

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it didn't even make sense because and it was like,

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not true. It's actually just very specific to Donald Trump,

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because they were filling in all these other things and

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then also, if you like type in Trump to get

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information on Google Search, you get information on Kamala Harris

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and Donald Trump. And even if you get stories on

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Donald Trump, they're all like Donald Trump is the worst, right,

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And the stories on Kamala Harris is like, oh, you

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slay queen, You so amazing. And it's like every single

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part of Search is designed to induce people to vote Democrat.

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And that's also not surprising because like in twenty sixteen,

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the day after the election, you had all the heads

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of Google getting up there and telling their staff, who

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are weeping, We're never gonna let this happen again. We've

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already started deploying AI, you know, to handle algorithm except

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but we're going to really ramp it up. And that

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was eight years ago. And so everything that you get

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on Google, and that's what again, what most people use,

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is designed to induce you to change our mind about

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basic things, where that's trans issues or education issues or

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abortion or politic or other like overt politics things like candidates,

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and it's a huge meddling in elections. We have nobody

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working on this really, Like ostensibly there's a Republican chamber

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in that in Congress, the House that has done nothing

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to protect our elections from this kind of manipulation, even

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while they're like, oh, China and Russia, I mean, yeah,

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China and Russia. What about Google? Like Google is harming

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America with this manipulation of facts and information and widespread censorship.

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And they are a government supported entity, government launched and supported,

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and they're working with the government on censorship. It's just insane.

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Speaker 1: You see all of these books behind me, like ninety

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percent of them are about political violence, by the way, Like

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it's a really important topic and I think people should

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know more about it, not less. Yeah, I don't know.

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I have to say. I try to put stuff in

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myself and I did get different results. So I don't

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know if this is how it works. Maybe it has

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to do with my own searches in the past, the algorithm.

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I don't know how Google works, but.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to make sure people.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say I was a little skeptical,

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but then when the person actually admitted that they had

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done it, I was like, this isn't insane.

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Speaker 2: And also the way to test it is to do

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a private search, you know, where you open up a

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private tab and see and that way it has nothing

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to do with your search history, and that's what other

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people were doing.

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Speaker 1: It just seemed like more work than I wanted to do,

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a little bit more work. Let's talk about it. So

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outside of the Orwellian rema, by the way, my argument

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is this, if Kamala Harris was as exciting and compelling

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and as beloved as they claim, they wouldn't have to

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reinvent her entire history. They wouldn't have to gin up

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this pretend excitement for her. And do you have you

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ever seen I honestly believe there was a lot of

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a bomb eleven the mediate for sure, But I think

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legitimately excited the left. I think for the wrong reasons.

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legitimately and organically spread through the Internet, and I think

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people were excited about him. There is just no way

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that there's nothing that Kamala Harris has done that could

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possibly excite the base other than not being Joe Biden.

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I get that this is a person who can maybe

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speak and walk in all of those things, but I

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just don't buy it. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I feel like our country is full of low information people.

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I'm somewhat surprised we haven't seen more of a bump

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for Kamala given who she replaced, you know what I mean,

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Like they had someone who was very near death seemingly

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running their ticket. It was horrific. He was so bad

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at everything, and you would expect to see a giant

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jump instead of pretty similar race to what it was

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with Biden. And there's also that historical context that I

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think people need to keep in mind, which is Trump

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is up like ten points or more from where he

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was four years ago, and that election turned out to

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be quite close, because you know the way elections are handled,

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so you would I have to assume she's going to

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continue to climb here somewhat. And they've got a convention.

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I think, you know she's smart, she'll pick someone like

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I think it's a smart thing to pick someone like Shapiro,

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the governor of Pennsylvania, to be her running mate. I'm

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a little bit worried that he is so competent that

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he will only highlight her incompetence and you don't want

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to be.

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Speaker 1: You would be a very good pick. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, Pennsylvania.

474
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I mean I just think he would be the pick.

475
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The only reason they won't pick him. Is that if

476
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he you know that he's Jewish and pro Israel, I

477
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:58,920
think would be the only reasons not to pick him

478
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over Mark Kelly is at Mark Kelly in Arizona, who

479
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,000
you know, has these ties with China and all that.

480
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I just don't think that would be very popular in

481
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Michigan and Pennsylvanian places like that, But we'll see. I

482
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:12,880
will say this, though, I do feel like the Trump

483
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,480
campaign had this great moment at the convention after Kamala Harris.

484
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:21,000
They seem a little bit unfocused to me. You know,

485
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there's a like, let's distance ourselves from ROGERCT twenty twenty five. Let's,

486
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,759
you know, try to defend those cat lady comments. Like

487
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,400
they're on the defensive now, it seems to me, And

488
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it's just a sense I get. I don't have any

489
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kind of info to make my case, but yeah, they.

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Speaker 2: Claimed they were ready for it, and there is a

491
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memo from May from top campaign people kind of anticipating

492
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a Kamalaw replacement type thing. So I think they should

493
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have been prepared for it. But they do seem to

494
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be flailing a little bit right now. But that could

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just be that they had to get through the convention,

496
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and now with all these changes, they're going to have

497
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a reset of a certain kind. I think the campaign

498
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,880
has been extremely well run by Chris los Avitus and

499
00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:11,880
Susie Wiles, who are the two people running the campaign.

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But I have two serious complaints. One we already discussed

501
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,000
on the show, which is that they thought it was

502
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:23,319
a good idea to have Tim Alberta, who's a like

503
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,119
ridiculous person, no offense.

504
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,559
Speaker 1: So they just like that, why would he be offended that.

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Speaker 2: You know, works at The Atlantic, and he's very political

506
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,000
in his writing, and he really yearns for like the

507
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days of George w and Mitt Romney, and he hates

508
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,240
Republicans who do not love those people as much as

509
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he does. And so they gave him a ton of time.

510
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,880
They rewarded him for his like anti Republican propaganda by

511
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giving him tons of time to write. I think they

512
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wanted a Gazi profile. I don't know if they got

513
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,160
that or not. I find my life more enjoyable when

514
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,519
I don't read him. But it just showed bad instincts

515
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:14,680
on a whole number of levels. And then the second

516
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,680
thing is Chris los Avitas in particular has been running

517
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,839
this like attack the base, fire on the base campaign

518
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,680
against conservatives who support Trump, and I don't get it.

519
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,839
I actually truly don't get it. And I tweeted something

520
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:33,720
about it earlier this week. And so I have a

521
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ton of people I will be talking to later today

522
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who have insight into it and are very concerned about it.

523
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Speaker 1: And so give me an example of what that coup.

524
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:46,839
Speaker 2: Okay, So if I can just back up a little bit, okay.

525
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,039
Heritage Foundation, for example, is a conservative think tank since

526
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the eighties. They have been developing policy ideas constantly, so

527
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that if a conservative gets elected as president, they kind

528
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of have like they can just like take these things

529
00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:07,039
off the shelf and implement them. Reagan used it to

530
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,960
great effect, okay, and other people have used it, and

531
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,680
it's just kind of what they do. And there was

532
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,400
a period in heritages past where they kind of got

533
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640
a little less good at that. And so they have

534
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,960
a new president, Kevin Roberts, who is like, we need

535
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to we need to really fix the federal government in

536
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the bureaucracy. We are in a crisis in this country,

537
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,480
and so we want to be aggressive and we want

538
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to come up with all these things. So the end

539
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:35,000
result was actually pretty much like what Republicans normally do

540
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or what conservatives normally do. You read it, David, so

541
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you could speak to that.

542
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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like, it's kind of just standard.

544
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Speaker 1: There was nothing in there that could in any way

545
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be considered fascistic or authoritarian. I don't like I didn't

546
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,400
like some of it, and I liked some of it.

547
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:57,759
I think it was I just it was just kind

548
00:31:57,799 --> 00:32:02,960
of like a menu of conservative positions, and I am

549
00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:04,960
heritage has gone in a way I think that I

550
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,200
disagree with them and more and more stuff economically, but

551
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:08,960
I just want to quickly say they went out of

552
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,000
their way to bring in free market types to kind

553
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,480
of rebut on trade and stuff. So it was, it was,

554
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,319
it was. It wasn't a terrible document. I mean, you know,

555
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but you know whatever, And it was.

556
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Speaker 2: Like more than a hundred different conservative groups got together

557
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to work on this, and the people who wrote it

558
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were the people who are in no offense. They're like

559
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:33,200
the good guys in Washington, d c. And there are

560
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,559
a lot of bad guys, you know, a lot of

561
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:36,680
people who are in it for their own political game.

562
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The people who wrote it people I know who were

563
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:40,640
part of writing it. These are the people who did

564
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,680
not lose the ability to think straight when Trump was nominated.

565
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,279
They did not join hysteria after January sixth, like stood

566
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:52,279
by him even during these times, or didn't you know it,

567
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:55,839
didn't join all these efforts to attack it. These are

568
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,119
people who have cared about the conservative movement for decades

569
00:32:59,599 --> 00:33:03,279
and and have the stripes to prove it. And so

570
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,960
what happened is the Democrats who constantly have these radical

571
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policy approaches taken by the most radical groups out there,

572
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like Green New Deal supporting groups or abortion on demand

573
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through all nine months of pregnancy, banning fracking, open borders,

574
00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:26,039
having non citizens vote like these are their policy ideas

575
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that they take. Kamala Harris sits down with these people,

576
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and Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and other people like

577
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that started running a campaign against Project twenty twenty five. Now,

578
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:38,599
if I were Trump, what I would have said, because

579
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,920
it was clear they were going to make a big

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deal about this, I would just say, all Americans are

581
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:47,960
not just able, but welcome to come up with policy

582
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,920
solutions to fix our broken government. And I will listen

583
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,200
to all of them, left right and center, and I

584
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,240
will take the best ideas that people have to offer. Right,

585
00:33:57,319 --> 00:33:59,240
you don't have to embrace it. You don't have to

586
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:00,799
say it's my place, and you could say it's not

587
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:03,400
my plan. I put my plan here, but if other

588
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,680
people want to weigh in, it's America. It's a free country.

589
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You're allowed to do that. And instead Trump or las

590
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Avitas or Susie Wiles, I'm not sure they were like

591
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,199
these people are the worst. They're trying to say they

592
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,280
control Trump. They never said that. They did what they've

593
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,800
always done for decades, which is care about conservative governance

594
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,000
and policy. The media lied about them, Trump being like,

595
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I don't like this stuff about protecting babies, which or

596
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,280
you know, that's too extreme because he bought the left

597
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:37,519
wing media lies, and they just kept going and going

598
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:41,079
and going and going and going. And then yesterday there

599
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:44,239
was some story about Paul Dan's who was like Trump's

600
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was he like a Trump personnel guy, a good guy.

601
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He steps down from the project, and Susie Wiles and

602
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,679
Chris los Avitas put out a statement and they're like,

603
00:34:56,159 --> 00:35:00,960
these reports of Project twenty twenty five's demise our greatly welcomed,

604
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,360
and like, by the way, anyone who claims they're doing

605
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,599
this for Trump, which again nobody's saying apart from the

606
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,920
we're doing this so that any conservative who's elected president

607
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can use our work. There will be hell to pay,

608
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:18,239
or I can't actually do remember exactly what they said.

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00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: Now, I don't remember. I sent it to you.

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Speaker 2: You sent the first paragraph, complained about it to me.

611
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:31,559
I posted, I get, you know, absolutely attacked by all these.

612
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,159
Speaker 1: Trusting I give a quick theory while you look. What

613
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:40,639
if it's Trump who doesn't like anyone thinking that that

614
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:43,320
he can he's being controlled, or someone is telling him

615
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,840
what to do, or someone is laying out his proposals

616
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,000
that he, you know, is tied to. I feel like

617
00:35:53,039 --> 00:35:56,599
Trump doesn't like that, and they didn't like having to

618
00:35:56,639 --> 00:36:00,000
defend someone else's ideas in that way, which makes sense

619
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:03,760
to me. The way you responded to it is perfectly normal.

620
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,079
In a normal campaign, you'd say, listen, I'm open to

621
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:09,079
a lot of these ideas, some of them I don't love.

622
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,639
You know, anyone can send me ideas. But because the

623
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:17,559
media was demagoguing this thing so badly, they were put

624
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,679
on the defensive and having to defend some of the

625
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,159
stuff in there that they had triangulated on or moderated

626
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,920
on for the general and that put them in a

627
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,800
bad spot, and they said, listen, we're just going to

628
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,880
have to attack it now because there's really no other

629
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,960
way around this. I mean, that's what I think happened

630
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,559
behind the scenes.

631
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,039
Speaker 2: So based on my calls already, and I did get

632
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calls from people, let's say, close to the campaign, that's

633
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:41,719
not the case.

634
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Speaker 1: It is.

635
00:36:43,559 --> 00:36:47,039
Speaker 2: They're pointing a finger at someone else. But I want

636
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,639
to kind of continue my calls with people. There were

637
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:51,400
a lot of people, by the way, a lot of

638
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,639
people who sent me notes thanking me for critiquing this.

639
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:58,920
So here's the first paragraph. President Trump's campaign has been

640
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:01,039
very clear for over a year year that Project twenty

641
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:03,559
twenty five had nothing to do with the campaign, did

642
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:06,000
not speak for the campaign, and should not be associated

643
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:09,199
with the campaign or the president in any way. That's fine.

644
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,760
I mean, it's stupid, meaning so defensive, and when you're defensive,

645
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,679
it's lame and it's not trumpy. Second paragraph, second parag

646
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,280
that's what you sent me, and that's what I posted.

647
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,960
The second paragraph is so much worse, So I wish

648
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,199
I would have posted that picture as well, says reports

649
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,559
of Project twenty twenty five's demise would be greatly welcomed

650
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,239
and should serve as notice to anyone or any group

651
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:35,440
trying to misrepresent their influence with President Trump and his campaign.

652
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,639
It will not end well for you. Chris los Avita

653
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,440
and Susie Wiles and Chris los Avita, It's like, Okay,

654
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,960
here's what I want to say about the Trump that

655
00:37:46,039 --> 00:37:48,599
I sort of grew to love. The Trump I grew

656
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:51,519
to love was someone who when the media lied about

657
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,320
his people, he punched them in the face. Not agreed

658
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,800
with them, I don't like. I mean, agreeing with them

659
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,599
is what Mitt Romney does. Agreeing with them is what

660
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:06,519
John McCain did. Agreeing with them is what every disappointing

661
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:10,239
Republican of my life did. Fighting them is what Trump did.

662
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,440
And that's what I loved because I always felt like

663
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,159
when he was fighting them, he was fighting for my people.

664
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And this is not fighting for my people, this is

665
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agreeing with left wing media.

666
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: And then.

667
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Speaker 2: I also think just this basic thing which I admire

668
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:33,920
on the left is that they don't shoot their base.

669
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,559
There's just no reason to demoralize people. So when I

670
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:41,079
tweeted a critique of what they're doing, which was for me.

671
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,760
I just I don't think they need to embrace Project

672
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,280
twenty twenty five. In my ideal world, they would embrace

673
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,119
a rigorous way of rescuing our federal government from its

674
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:55,519
unconstitutional current state. Okay, that's my perfect world. I am

675
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:59,639
not naive. I do not expect the Trump campaign to

676
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:03,480
do that, Okay, but they could just shut up. They

677
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:07,679
could just shut up or like not give fuel to

678
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,119
the enemies of the people who vote for them. And

679
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,199
they're also just spreading lies and disinformation about how this

680
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is a group of people who are trying to sabotage Trump.

681
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,039
Dear listener, as a person in Washington, d C. Let

682
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,880
me assure you that the people who come up with

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that kind of talking point are the ones who are,

684
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:33,320
like historically, have not been very helpful to the former

685
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,760
and most likely future president.

686
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Speaker 1: I am not going to pretend I speak for the people,

687
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,599
for the average man, for the forgotten man. I will

688
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:46,000
say I think this is very insider DC in the

689
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:47,760
sense that I don't think it's going to matter very

690
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,599
much and for the campaign, I just I don't think

691
00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:55,280
anyone cares about Project twenty twenty five except people are

692
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,719
going to vote for Biden already and like to be

693
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,280
paranoid about the world. I get that some people. I

694
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,440
think if they w if Trump wins, everyone's going to

695
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,599
forget that's ever happened. Half the people who wrote that

696
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,400
Project twenty twenty five book or whatever it's called, are

697
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,480
going to be in the administration anyway. Everything will be forgotten.

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00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:18,079
Speaker 2: No, I agree with almost all of that. I just

699
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:23,000
think demoralizing your base is an unforced error. I began

700
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by saying, I think Chris los Avina and Susie Wiles

701
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:28,559
have run an excellent campaign, and I believe that it's

702
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,880
it's been tight. It's been a tight ship. It's good.

703
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna revisit these topics I think

704
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meant for many weeks. And let's one last thing I

705
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,760
wanted to talk about. You wanted to talk about was

706
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Israel's amazing assassination of the I would call him the

707
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,119
political head of hamas in uh Tanye. I don't know

708
00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:54,840
exactly how to pronounce it, but he was killed in Tehran,

709
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which is amazing. I mean, you're talking, you know, yesterday

710
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,679
he was celebrating with all the terrorist leaders, hugging them.

711
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,800
He felt so safe, and Israel blew him up. This

712
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,199
comes a day after they killed one of the leaders

713
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:14,960
of his Bala, which recently murdered twelve Israeli Drew Drew's

714
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,920
children in a soccer field, and I say, if you

715
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,679
don't want to be blown up, don't kill children, don't

716
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,519
rape women, don't kidnap them, and you're going to be

717
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:24,440
completely safe.

718
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: But I want to till twelve hundred. Like music goers

719
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,400
and other Israelis.

720
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: Right, this Israel has been mosad and Israel's capability of

721
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,280
getting it these people has been overrated for many, many years. Yeah,

722
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,519
in the seventies and the sixties, even the fifties, they

723
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:45,960
were really, uh, you know, inventive in the ways they

724
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:48,719
hunted down their enemies and did all kinds of cool stuff.

725
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,320
Everyone remembers and Tebbi and how they rescued those hostages.

726
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,880
But it hasn't been the same for a long time. So,

727
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,280
but it looks like they've ramped up that project and

728
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:58,639
they too.

729
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,159
Speaker 2: Seems like they did pretty well yesterday.

730
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're doing well now. And a lot of

731
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,880
of course the usual people are like, this just escalates things.

732
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,880
Oh yeah, this escalates things. Killing a Hamas leader who

733
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:15,119
were a Hisbola leader by the way, who was on

734
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:18,719
the US Most Wanted list for participating in the Bay

735
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,599
Root bombing in the eighties that killed like two hundred

736
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:21,559
and fifty Americans.

737
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I actually do worry about escalation because escalation

738
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,559
is bad. What annoys me is that all the media

739
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:34,800
reports were saying that this taking out of this guy

740
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,199
worried everybody about how the conflict would broaden. Nobody had

741
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,760
such worry about October seventh, you know, nobody. They moved

742
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,719
on from it so quickly.

743
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,039
Speaker 1: Remember, Ron launched like a thousand missiles at Israel, and

744
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,920
Israel basically didn't even do anything in return. How about that?

745
00:42:53,079 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 3: You know?

746
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: And I do pray for peace in this region, and

747
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:04,519
I do want diplomatic efforts to succeed, and I do

748
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,840
worry about escalation. That's a very bad region of the

749
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,199
world for things to escalate.

750
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,159
Speaker 1: But you know, this is the way to do it.

751
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,679
This is what Donald Trump did when he killed Solomani

752
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:20,599
and Iran threw some missiles at nothing to show that

753
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,320
they weren't going to be pushovers. But they were very quiet.

754
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,559
Speaker 2: After, right, right, And I feel like knowing that Israel

755
00:43:25,679 --> 00:43:29,440
has this capability of taking out this guy in this

756
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,519
small building he was in, has got to put a

757
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:36,519
lot of fear in the hearts of these Iranian leaders

758
00:43:36,639 --> 00:43:40,440
about what Israel could do to them if they escalate.

759
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: You completely. You nailed it. There is about to say.

760
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,159
What Iran sees now is holy crap. They can get

761
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:49,960
to us whenever they wanted to, and most could have

762
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:54,639
killed Iranian leaders whenever they want. They have taken out

763
00:43:54,639 --> 00:43:57,719
many scientists who are working on the nuclear project. They

764
00:43:58,039 --> 00:43:59,480
I don't know if you remember, they stole all the

765
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:04,239
plans for their nuclear their nuclear plans. I forgot what

766
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,079
year that was. So Israel is in Iran and they

767
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,559
can do stuff, but they don't. But I think the

768
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:12,840
Iranian leaders are like, this is pretty dangerous for us

769
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,960
to keep. Hopefully they'll see that, but who knows. Anyway,

770
00:44:16,039 --> 00:44:18,400
I think it's a win for the good guys.

771
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:21,119
Speaker 2: There was just one thing that I had meant to

772
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:23,519
talk about in the campaign thing, which is also that

773
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:26,360
Biden rolled out an attack on the Supreme Court, Oh

774
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,960
my gosh, ruling on things differently than he would like.

775
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,719
And I saw this video of these three members of

776
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:41,079
Congress who are Venezuelan, the Expatsorena, and they were saying,

777
00:44:41,079 --> 00:44:43,320
how this is what Maduro did when he took power.

778
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,760
He did not like that the Supreme Court was enforcing

779
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,039
rule of law, and so he just attacked the Supreme Court.

780
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,800
We have one functioning institution in this country, and it's

781
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,679
the Supreme Court, and the Left is working so hard

782
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,199
to destroy it, and we should be moving in the

783
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,760
opposite direction, like shoring up all the other institutions, rather

784
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,199
than attacking this one. But I also saw a poll

785
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,800
showing that they like to say, oh, nobody trusts the

786
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,159
Supreme Court. Everybody is down on it. But the poll

787
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:13,639
show it's basically only low information Democrat voters who are

788
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:16,840
just consuming Democrat media who have lost confidence in the

789
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,760
Supreme Court. And how could they not, you know, if

790
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,519
they're only listening to MSNBC and you're being given propaganda

791
00:45:22,639 --> 00:45:26,880
designed to make you be open to destroying the court,

792
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:29,639
you know, and you're kind of like the soccer who

793
00:45:29,639 --> 00:45:32,159
falls for that. I'm not shocked by the numbers, but

794
00:45:32,159 --> 00:45:34,719
it's really important for Americans, you know. Regardless. I don't.

795
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,679
I certainly do not like and have been quite vocal,

796
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,079
do not like all the decisions that came out of

797
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:44,039
the Court this year or any other year. But having

798
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:51,559
an independent judiciary is really important. And Democrats open attempt

799
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:54,840
to destroy the Court simply because it is ruling in

800
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,880
favor of rule of law and against some of these

801
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:02,679
like hair brained schemes from the Biden administration is deeply alarming.

802
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,159
Speaker 1: I can't believe i'merus forgot to talk about this because

803
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:09,360
it is for me the most I think the most

804
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,000
important issue right now in my political thinking. That what

805
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,519
they're doing is a million times worse than January sixth

806
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:19,679
in the sense of corroding rule of law. It is

807
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,039
not even in the same vicinity. Every two big dictator

808
00:46:24,079 --> 00:46:27,079
on Earth does this to their court. It's one of

809
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,400
the first things they do, as you mentioned, and also

810
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,960
the polling. Let's not forget so both Harris, Kamala Harris

811
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,039
and Joe Biden said the reason they're doing is this

812
00:46:36,159 --> 00:46:38,639
is that there's a crisis and confidence in the Court,

813
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:40,559
which incidentally, I'm not going to go through it all

814
00:46:40,639 --> 00:46:48,440
they created over decades of misinformation and disinformation. Congress, who

815
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:51,079
is now dictated, is supposedly going to dictate the Ethics

816
00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:54,440
Code to the Supreme Court has a nine percent favorability

817
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:59,199
rating in the Gallup poll. The Supreme Court's at thirty

818
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,280
and by the way, it's up the last two years.

819
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,360
The presidency is less, you know, els is less. Public schools, unions,

820
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:11,440
big business, basically every institution other than the military and

821
00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:16,320
the cops have a lower it's not a favorability ready

822
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,679
to go, oh do trust them? A trust rating? Okay,

823
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,480
So now we're going to have people with far less ratings.

824
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,559
Can you imagine Joe Biden, whose whole family has been

825
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,920
enriched by favor trading and cashing in on their name,

826
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,920
telling the Supreme Court how to act ethically, or Dick

827
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:37,639
Durbin who made money in the stock market, and all

828
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:39,400
these people get rich in the Senate and they're going

829
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,119
to tell the Supreme Court. But they got to dictate

830
00:47:42,159 --> 00:47:43,920
the Supreme courts ethics policies.

831
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: Did you see what Leonard Leo said?

832
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: That was an amazing letter.

833
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,679
Speaker 2: If Democrats truly want to do this, then let's make

834
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:56,760
it government wide. And of course Congress would never accept these, They.

835
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: Would never live by these ethics, the ethics codes they

836
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,519
want to put on the which already follows the Judicial

837
00:48:01,519 --> 00:48:06,679
Ethics Code. All of the supposed you know, ethics problems

838
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,679
of Clarence Thomas and so on. They're just completely concocted

839
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:14,480
by pro public who gets paid by these giant dark money,

840
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:17,519
you know, leftist organizations who want to destroy the judiciary.

841
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:20,719
It is so enraging that the people who say they

842
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,719
want to save democracy are just destroying the only institution

843
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,920
left in Washington who upholds the Constitution in any real

844
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,440
or effective way. So anyway, I yeah, I wrote a

845
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:33,599
very long piece of people interested. It's at the federalist

846
00:48:34,039 --> 00:48:37,000
Democrats promise to save democracy by destroying the Supreme Court.

847
00:48:38,199 --> 00:48:40,119
I go through those pull numbers and so on. Okay,

848
00:48:40,159 --> 00:48:42,599
thank you for bringing that up. I'm going to blame

849
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:44,639
you for throwing me off my game at the beginning.

850
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,039
Speaker 2: I really did mess that up. I'm sorry.

851
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 4: But can we talk about culture now. Of course you

852
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,559
watched anything, I think you should go. I was telling

853
00:48:55,559 --> 00:48:59,159
you before. I find myself watching the same things over

854
00:48:59,159 --> 00:49:01,800
and over again in my life. So I consciously say

855
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,199
to myself, man, I got to watch something new, because

856
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:05,840
what am I going to talk to Molly about on

857
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:06,599
the podcast?

858
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: So I went in, I watched. I didn't know until

859
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,840
recently there were two Ghostbuster sequels made in the last

860
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,760
few years. One was called Ghostbusters Afterlife and the other

861
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,719
was called something Else Stupid about I.

862
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,559
Speaker 2: I watched one of those. I watched one where it

863
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:22,960
was like the kids, Yeah, it was pretty good.

864
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,159
Speaker 1: That one, Yes, it was good. They weren't bad. I

865
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:29,239
was surprised. They were well done. Paul Rudd's in it

866
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,519
like offers all comic relief, the little marshmallow men and stuff,

867
00:49:33,519 --> 00:49:35,440
and there's a lot of what are they called East

868
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:38,559
Easter eggs, you know, the old movie in there. I

869
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:40,679
liked it. I actually thought it was more kid friendly

870
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,719
than the original movie.

871
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: You know it was that would not be hard to achieve.

872
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: It was delightful. So I watched those. There's two of them.

873
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,960
I thought the first one was a lot better than

874
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,599
the second one, but both were fine, And then I

875
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,840
rewatched I think that but I never talked about it

876
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,679
was Venom with Tom Hardy. Have you ever seen it.

877
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:03,719
It's one of these movies that I went. I go

878
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,880
to what's it called Rotten Tomatoes to see what the

879
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,559
ratings are. It's one of those movies where like the

880
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:09,679
critics give it a two and like people give it

881
00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:11,760
a hundred. You know what I mean, Like the people

882
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,440
will watch it. It is so funny and so it's

883
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,000
so bad that it's really good and funny, and I

884
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:19,480
enjoyed it. I was watching Venom because there's a sequel

885
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,280
out and I want to see that. Anyway. Those are

886
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,280
the two movies three movies that I watched.

887
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: So I've been really busy, so I have not been

888
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,039
able to watch anything. But I did remember that I

889
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:33,360
forgot to say something the previous week, which was that

890
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,199
I saw a movie called Last Stop in Yuma or

891
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,000
something like that.

892
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: I don't know.

893
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:45,199
Speaker 2: It small film about a bank heist. Well, it's not

894
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,840
about the bank heist, but it's sort of about a

895
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,239
diner where people who committed a bank heist arrive at

896
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,119
the diner and there are other people at the diner.

897
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,280
It was well done in terms of if I were

898
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,559
making a movie and I wanted to hire a director

899
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,440
or cinematographer, I would hire the people who did it.

900
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,119
But I found the movie itself to be unduly realistic, nihilistic,

901
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,960
and I did not like that about it interesting.

902
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,519
Speaker 1: So it's not a recommend or is it worth watching.

903
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,679
Speaker 2: I use the information I provided to whether you would.

904
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it.

905
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to watch Do you remember when I tried

906
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,239
to get you to watch that Triangle of Sadness?

907
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: Almost?

908
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 2: And I think I was explicit It is not a recommend.

909
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,119
I just want other people to go through what I

910
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,119
went through so that I can talk to them about it.

911
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: Every time I put it up and I'm like, should

912
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,400
I watch this, I'm like, God, this looks so depressing.

913
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,199
I really want to do this, Okay, and I haven't,

914
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,440
but I will. It's on my list. It will be done.

915
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 2: But I do have exciting news. I finished the Bible.

916
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: Is that it you're done, you don't have to read

917
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:55,480
it anymore.

918
00:51:56,119 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: I almost immediately started over again because I loved the

919
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,320
experience much. And this had all happened partly as a

920
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,519
result of me being scared to read Revelation. And I'd

921
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:10,000
always joked that Revelation was a place that I wanted.

922
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,679
It was a place I wanted to go when I

923
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,960
was older, like China like, I don't want to do

924
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,400
it now. I just want to do it when I'm older.

925
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,880
But I am getting older, and so I was ready

926
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,639
to do it, but I wanted to read everything prior

927
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:24,199
to that, and it was it was worth it. I

928
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,480
still don't totally understand it, so I would like to

929
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:31,920
read everything again. I spent way too long doing this.

930
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,920
I could have done this, I would say, in at

931
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,960
least half the time, if not a third of the time.

932
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,239
And I don't know why it took me so long.

933
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,800
I just almost intentionally slowed down once I hit the

934
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,440
New Testament because I was enjoying it so much or

935
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:52,119
something and wanted to process everything. But I cannot recommend

936
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,440
enough reading the Bible start to finish. It has been

937
00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:58,679
the greatest gift for me in this last year, in

938
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,639
three or four months.

939
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: It's just so, that's how long it took. A year

940
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,159
and three.

941
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,039
Speaker 2: I think I started last April and I finished yesterday

942
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:06,719
on the plane.

943
00:53:07,159 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: Do you think reading it again will be a different experience?

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Did you see it in a whole new light?

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Speaker 2: I do. What I like is now I kind of

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understand what I'm dealing with start to finish, and so

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I had so many blind spots that I wanted I

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just wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I like to read books over and over anyway, but

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this one, definitely, I just feel like I'll just keep

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reading over and over and over again. I was wondering

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I had I had in my mind, should I just

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do the New Testament again? Or should I do the

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Psalms and proverbs.

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Speaker 1: I think you got to start at the beginning because

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you have to watch the original or listen read the

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original to understand the sequel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but now I've done it all and I can

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kind of like whenever anyway, I'm really.

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Speaker 1: You know that the Old test and it's a different experience.

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I assume a lot of war and sober and intrigue

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and adult tree and so forth. It is.

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Speaker 2: I think I said this earlier, but when you start

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the Gospel of Matthew, after reading that entire history, it

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just hits so differently when you see Matthew laying out

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the genealogy of how Jesus is the promised Savior. And

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then also I learned so much even in the New

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Testament about I guess I sort of thought when Jesus

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came it was immediately for all people, as opposed to

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a ministry to the Jews. And seeing how it expanded

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beyond the Jews in a dramatic fashion that was also

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very interesting, seeing how the early Church was dealing with

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different problems was very interesting to me. Oh, reading Revelation.

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I was at the cave in Patmos where John received

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the revelation, So that was kind of cool when reading

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it because he even talks about like hearing a voice behind

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him and turning around and you know then I'm like,

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God was there.

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Speaker 1: It was great anyway, it looks like you're about to

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say something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was also interesting to me. The

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difference between you what do you call like Judaism of today's,

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like rabbinical Judaism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was basically there was a reformation after the Temple.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is not the way to end

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a podcast, but I just want to say reading the

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Old Testament, seeing Jesus being the perfect fulfillment of all

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these prophecies and then seeing him be rejected by certain

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people as the promised Savior, and then seeing rabbinical Judaism

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kind of start up a couple hundred years later with

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this new sort of approach.

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Speaker 1: Like it was.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting. And also like if you study like

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Eastern Orthodoxy, which I think has a closer tie to

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ancient Judaism than maybe some Western Christians do, it just

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was very I want to read more about how rabbinical

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Judaism started, what it emphasizes, because it's clearly very different.

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There's such like a continuity from Genesis to Revelation, and

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then you have this like separate thing with Do you

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have any books to recommend for me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I recommended the Paul Johnson's

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History of the Jews as a kind of book for

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people who aren't Jewish maybe to read to understand that that.

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But I do believe rabbinic Judaism has its roots, you know.

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I mean you had the Sadducees and Pharisees already at

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their you know, fighting about what, yes, you know what

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Judaism men, how to how to practice. But also, and

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obviously I'm not a rabbi, I'm just talking about what

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I know. You know, once the Jewish Jewish communities were

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moved from Israel, which happened even before Jesus's time, you know,

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they had to have something they can take with them,

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you know, and that's that that necessitated something different than

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the than the you know, then going to the temple,

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going to the Temple and all that. So again, I

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think his book is amazing. I'm not saying that it's

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you know, uh branded kosher by all rabbis. But I

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do think he gives a great kind of He was

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a religious man, I think he was Catholic, but he

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gives a very secular historical overview of Judaism and I

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think it's excellent. So and this look on Christianity is

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excellent too, history of Christianity. All right, ending on a

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light note again, So it was nice seeing you, Molly,

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and I hope everyone will join us. Oh and if

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you want to reach us, please do so at radio

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at the Federalist dot com.

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Speaker 3: We hope it.

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Speaker 1: Until then, Belows of Freedom Walk, Why am