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Speaker 2: What's up, good people? Touchdowns and Tangents? Back here Sunday
Speaker 2: Night Special Edition. Been off a few weeks, recharging, getting
Speaker 2: work done, doing what we do on PD camerio, and
Speaker 2: he is, can't it been? Yeah, A lot of the
Speaker 2: ship has happened in the past few weeks. NFL training
Speaker 2: camps are now in session. I believe almost all the
Speaker 2: camps are in session. I think either by Monday because
Speaker 2: the last day, but right now it's mostly rookies and
Speaker 2: camp veterans are slowly reporting.
Speaker 1: Drove by the boat the other.
Speaker 2: Day that shit was cracking. They had a line all
Speaker 2: the way around the corner. But overall, that's in the
Speaker 2: past few weeks.
Speaker 1: A lot's happened.
Speaker 3: A lot of people got paid, somebody retired, he's already
Speaker 3: out for the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Where do you want to start.
Speaker 3: Well, the Jets, actually, well today the Chiefs. They locked
Speaker 3: up George Carloftus on like a four year, ninety two
Speaker 3: million dollar contract.
Speaker 1: Sheesh. Let's see the Jets paid.
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardener, who I think he got like four years
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty five million, and Gary Wilson got
Speaker 3: like four years, like one hundred twenty million or.
Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, he's not ninety million guaranteed, Wilson did.
Speaker 3: So you lock up both your two first round picks,
Speaker 3: your cornerstone pieces, your best corner, your best receiver.
Speaker 1: You know, you got Justin Fields. TJ. Widde up more
Speaker 1: money than his brother ever got his whole career.
Speaker 2: Yeah, four years, one hundred and twenty three million. Three
Speaker 2: I thought it was three years, one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: three million. It's the most ever for a Deefson player. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's right. Uh, Let's see who else got
Speaker 2: locked up. Well, it wasn't the Lions. Mike Williams retired,
Speaker 2: which was cutting out the big story this week. Many
Speaker 2: people thought he was going to come back. He had
Speaker 2: resigned with the Chargers, after two seasons away, people were
Speaker 2: kind of looking at him as that deal number two
Speaker 2: receiver across from mccuckie. But yeah, what do you think
Speaker 2: any I know, we had some jokes, but serious seriousness.
Speaker 1: Dude broke his neck and came back to school.
Speaker 3: Still ended up being the first round pick and played
Speaker 3: eight years, had two one thousand yard receiving seasons, and
Speaker 3: when he was healthy, he was a legit deep threat
Speaker 3: who was out here making herculean catches because his qbs.
Speaker 3: Qbs were gonna knock the hell out in games, and
Speaker 3: he was really stretching out for the ball thirty yards
Speaker 3: downfield getting blasted sometimes. I mean, yeah, Herbert's a good QB,
Speaker 3: but like sometimes you throw your receiver into a hospital bed.
Speaker 2: We don't talk about that enough that qbs are like
Speaker 2: really leaving the receivers all right, Other niggas that's been
Speaker 2: going on this week. There's been some new Jersey reveals.
Speaker 2: I know, everyone was kind of making jokes about the
Speaker 2: Chargers saying they got that mustard yellow, they got that
Speaker 2: big bird testame Street three. Andrew Whitworth compared it to
Speaker 2: when the Browns last word.
Speaker 1: Yellow in that Super Bowl run where they lost.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, what do you what do you what did
Speaker 2: you make of some of the uniforms that you saw
Speaker 2: this past week?
Speaker 1: Charge the Saint drop uniforms to the Chargers once were cool.
Speaker 1: I like the Navy helets. I'm glad they finally got
Speaker 1: those bags. Yeah, the Chargers can really get in their
Speaker 1: bag when they want to.
Speaker 3: Everybody else is like, you're not just you're not really
Speaker 3: revealing in the uniform.
Speaker 1: It's just an alternate that you could probably wear this year.
Speaker 2: So it's like it's rare somebody changed it, Like the
Speaker 2: Saints didn't really change up their whole uniforms game.
Speaker 1: It's still black and gold, you know, but it is
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 2: And shout out to Donnica Sue this she retired last week,
Speaker 2: called it the career.
Speaker 1: I think after what thirteen seasons something like that.
Speaker 3: Yep, and the chip and he said I should have
Speaker 3: been paying more than Matt Stafford since I was drafted before.
Speaker 1: I was the next first round pick A lot of time.
Speaker 1: Oh pro damn near won the Heisman.
Speaker 3: Seventy one, act should have won the Heisman. Got screwed
Speaker 3: by Texas and the reps, and.
Speaker 2: I think I'm black balled out the League for a
Speaker 2: little bit, for sure, because teams didn't want to pay him.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to pay him teammate or anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually did exactly what you wanted him to do,
Speaker 2: which is be a Offens's worst nightmare, and you got
Speaker 2: mad when he crashed out.
Speaker 1: All right, you want to move on to college football? Wow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: one thing the Commander signed von Miller.
Speaker 2: I was obviously saving that for a touchdown and turnover.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, all right, Yeah, let me uh,
Speaker 3: let me play some stuff.
Speaker 1: So I was at.
Speaker 3: I was at Mount West Media Day in Vegas this
Speaker 3: past week. I talked about what I'll say, what happened
Speaker 3: to me on the way.
Speaker 1: Back on my.
Speaker 3: But at the pleasure of interviewed a bunch of Mount
Speaker 3: West coaches and players. I'm not gonna play all the
Speaker 3: interviews because it's a lot of interviews, but place some
Speaker 3: poortant ones, like first new coming coach into the Mount
Speaker 3: West for Freendsnoe State, Matt dis He was formerly the
Speaker 3: head coach at North Dakota State.
Speaker 1: He took a linebacking coach job at.
Speaker 2: SC last season, and now he's the head coach at
Speaker 2: Fresnoe State. So here's about here's a conversation I had
Speaker 2: with him second ship. It's not let me connect, that's
Speaker 2: who mm hmm, it's broadcast Kenny.
Speaker 4: That on.
Speaker 7: H right now it right o.
Speaker 1: Be connected? Coach? Good?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 1: How how's it been now.
Speaker 2: You go from a USC now you're a friend of state.
Speaker 2: How's the field being a full time head coach? Again?
Speaker 6: It's been good?
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: You know there's a different demands, you know, when you're
Speaker 8: an assistant coach or a coordinator, you have this is
Speaker 8: your process weekly. When you're a head football coach, it's
Speaker 8: a little bit different, but it's been It's kept me busy,
Speaker 8: that's for sure. Trying to make sure from a staff standpoint,
Speaker 8: from recruiting, fundraising, you know, there's a lot of irons
Speaker 8: in the fire.
Speaker 6: These days, but keeps the energized.
Speaker 8: That keeps you moving every day and there's something to
Speaker 8: get done. And we're only but surely continue to improve.
Speaker 2: Obviously, you know, since you're familiar with the California market,
Speaker 2: I was recruiting band.
Speaker 6: How is it you know.
Speaker 2: When you see guys we're going to be from Juco
Speaker 2: just high school kids and maybe one another the radar,
Speaker 2: how is it? You know, handling this recruiting base at
Speaker 2: Fresnel State.
Speaker 8: Well, we were a little bit behind going into the
Speaker 8: class of the class of twenty six, you know, because
Speaker 8: we got in you know, part way. But I think
Speaker 8: we've done a really good job to pain traction in
Speaker 8: the state of California. I believe having been at USC
Speaker 8: the previous year gave me some contacts, gave me some
Speaker 8: people that I could lean on, that I could trust
Speaker 8: through this process and kind of understanding how West Coast
Speaker 8: recruiting is different than Midwest recruiting, where I spent the
Speaker 8: majority of my career.
Speaker 6: So, you know, I think the experience.
Speaker 8: At USC was tremendous, you know, for me, especially as
Speaker 8: I took a head coaching job on you know, the
Speaker 8: West coast here.
Speaker 6: But our staff does a great job.
Speaker 8: I think high school coaches, I think high school administrators
Speaker 8: are super excited and that Fresno State is emphasizing the
Speaker 8: State of California education program on campus. So it seems
Speaker 8: like wherever I go, whatever high school I visit, there's
Speaker 8: either a teacher, there's an administrator that has a Fresno
Speaker 8: State degree, and I know those people are super excited
Speaker 8: to see the red and white backun buildings.
Speaker 2: As a feel known like you still can lean on
Speaker 2: you know, North Capron State, just all your Midwest ties.
Speaker 6: Well, we've tried to do that a little bit.
Speaker 8: If you look at our recruiting class, you look at
Speaker 8: some of the recruits that we brought in in the
Speaker 8: class of twenty five, you'll see young men from Chicago,
Speaker 8: young men from Omaha. You know, we'll have a little
Speaker 8: bit of a Midwest flair. But again it's we're Fresno State,
Speaker 8: the Ford, Paul, the v It's a national brand.
Speaker 6: And so I think we can utilize those areas.
Speaker 8: As secondary and I'm gonna repeat secondary recruiting areas with
Speaker 8: our primary area being the state of California.
Speaker 2: How the alumni based kind of reached out to you,
Speaker 2: tapped in and just let you know, okay.
Speaker 8: You know, one of the things that we've tried to
Speaker 8: create when we got when I say we are staff
Speaker 8: and myself on campus is a former players you know, organization,
Speaker 8: and we call it the BFL. It's something that's kind
Speaker 8: of grown some legs of its own and rapidly expanding.
Speaker 8: But we want our former players, we want them to
Speaker 8: know that they're the foundation of our program. We wouldn't
Speaker 8: be where we are without them. We've got them back
Speaker 8: to practice. We had a spring tailgate. We'll have a
Speaker 8: couple of different functions during the season. We have a
Speaker 8: coffee with the coaches during fall camp where we invite
Speaker 8: just former players back to come to practice, to watch
Speaker 8: and to see. You know, within about one hundred mile
Speaker 8: radius of Fresno, there's four hundred former players. We want
Speaker 8: those players to know that they're still an integral part
Speaker 8: of what we do and who we are.
Speaker 2: And for asking like Gingry, he talked about how much
Speaker 2: like I'm an impact you had.
Speaker 6: We talk about a man. Eric.
Speaker 2: So when you look this linebacker group, the d L group,
Speaker 2: Corey former was you look at the defense, how juiced
Speaker 2: up where they were? You know when you first got
Speaker 2: to meet them.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you know, I don't know how
Speaker 8: juice stuff. They were hurt, but hopefully they were excited
Speaker 8: to know that, Uh, you know, they had a head
Speaker 8: coach that had defensive background. I think having been at USC,
Speaker 8: you know, I know that there's a lot of conversation
Speaker 8: Eric Gentry and Corey. Eric Gentry and DJ Lafitte, who's
Speaker 8: a former sc player. Eric knows a lot of the
Speaker 8: guys that are on a roster, especially those guys that
Speaker 8: come from the Lost the Greater Los Angeles area, and
Speaker 8: so I know that they were in communication by Hey,
Speaker 8: who is this guy coming from that? See, Eric's a
Speaker 8: tremendous football player, Super excited, can't wait to see what
Speaker 8: he does see and in the Big Ten this year.
Speaker 8: But you know, I'm excited about the young men we
Speaker 8: have on our roster right now and seeing if we
Speaker 8: can get them to continue to get a little.
Speaker 6: Bit better every day.
Speaker 2: Which in regards to just I would say the seniors,
Speaker 2: they have some customs that they want to continue. What
Speaker 2: are you trying to bring as far as you know, customers,
Speaker 2: whether to be dating back to North Akota State wherever,
Speaker 2: and how are some of the younger guys kind of
Speaker 2: stepping up in leadership positions.
Speaker 8: Right, you know, going back to some of the traditions
Speaker 8: and maybe things that are unique to Fresno State. We're
Speaker 8: going to try to hang on to as many of
Speaker 8: those as we can, because again, this this program has
Speaker 8: had tremendous tradition over the years, dating back to Coach Sweeney,
Speaker 8: the Pat Hill, coach Tedford all did a tremendous job,
Speaker 8: and so I want to make sure that that still
Speaker 8: operate within the footprint of what Presno State football is.
Speaker 8: But from a day to day operational, you know, and
Speaker 8: maybe practice plan practice format. There might be some some
Speaker 8: some things that I bring to me from previous stops
Speaker 8: that kind of incorporate their way into it. But I
Speaker 8: don't think our fan base isn't going to see anything
Speaker 8: just significantly different.
Speaker 9: We're still gonna look like the Bulldogs. You got a
Speaker 9: chance to talk to coach Tedford.
Speaker 6: I almost like used to coach Tedford.
Speaker 8: Until Kalin de boor all were extremely helpful along this
Speaker 8: process because I was investigating this job as.
Speaker 6: I was kind of getting my feet on the ground.
Speaker 8: They were all great resources for me and still continue
Speaker 8: to be great resources.
Speaker 6: Appreciate all of them.
Speaker 2: What does success look like for you this season, even
Speaker 2: just a day to day routine, It's as long as.
Speaker 8: We continue to get better, challenge our football team in
Speaker 8: final games. If we all can get one percent better,
Speaker 8: we'll be thirty seven times better.
Speaker 5: By the eight questions that are transcribed, bro I just
Speaker 5: wanted competitive business ability to execute, and.
Speaker 6: We can do those two things and buy into the process.
Speaker 6: That we've kind of said three days old, Bro, I
Speaker 6: think our.
Speaker 8: Process is going to guarantee victory, but we'll guarantee that
Speaker 8: we're competitive every seven thanks coaching.
Speaker 2: Yes, in regards I was the seniors. They have, you know,
Speaker 2: some customs that they want to continue. What are you
Speaker 2: trying to bring as far as you know customs, whatever
Speaker 2: you dating got.
Speaker 5: How's that state? Whatever we played play the podcast. We
Speaker 5: haven't talked about football, you know, going back.
Speaker 8: To some of the traditions, maybe things that are unique
Speaker 8: to Fresno stable as many of those as we can, because.
Speaker 5: Again this program is that you're having your content ready
Speaker 5: to cut up. Sweetie, you're playing a whole one episode
Speaker 5: podcast one.
Speaker 8: Bro going to make sure that that still operate within
Speaker 8: the footprint of.
Speaker 6: This special Bro and maybe practice playing practice format.
Speaker 8: There might be some some some things that I bring
Speaker 8: to me from previous.
Speaker 6: Stops that you have like one hundred different whole thing
Speaker 6: fan bases.
Speaker 9: And you got a chance to talk to Coach Tefford
Speaker 9: and I'm just like you used to Coach.
Speaker 2: Talked about being a grandfather.
Speaker 1: How does that kind of wide.
Speaker 6: In your world view?
Speaker 1: This is Navy's coach. By the way, this is.
Speaker 2: Formerly he was a coach at Navy for a long time,
Speaker 2: he was like U LA and now just changels the
Speaker 2: state in the second year, coach Ken.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of.
Speaker 2: Changed you and how does it help you kind of
Speaker 2: relate to your players on an even deeper level?
Speaker 10: I think being a grandfather, I definitely believe I've become
Speaker 10: better as a head coach because I listened more.
Speaker 11: It's not you know, my way of the highway.
Speaker 10: I feel like in years past, I was really strong, strong,
Speaker 10: infirm on my views.
Speaker 11: It is my way of the highway. This is how
Speaker 11: we're doing things, and you know there's no varying from me.
Speaker 6: Well, now I'm a little bit more.
Speaker 11: When I talk about rules, I'll tell him the way.
Speaker 6: Can we're doing this because of this?
Speaker 11: With doing this because of this. In years past, I
Speaker 11: would just listen to roles.
Speaker 10: Here, the roles and either you buy that bite or
Speaker 10: you're not on the team.
Speaker 11: Where now it's like, okay, we do this because of that.
Speaker 6: And there are times now why I listen to.
Speaker 11: Things where guys come to me a coach, I can't.
Speaker 6: Make it because of this. I have this going out of.
Speaker 10: My family or something's going with this and I feel
Speaker 10: like I'm a lot more venient and compassionate that way.
Speaker 10: Part of it, I feel like is being a grandfather.
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, six granddaughters and one guy'sone on a.
Speaker 2: Way, just just be a little.
Speaker 10: Bit more patient as a grandfather. So I coach coach Judge.
Speaker 11: Who's wisby a Navy and then he.
Speaker 10: Most recently was at Miami with the Dolphins, and he's
Speaker 10: all my staff.
Speaker 11: Now some of the things I do now he kind
Speaker 11: of looks at me like is this.
Speaker 6: The same guy?
Speaker 11: You know, because I've changed in some stuff.
Speaker 10: But I think it's just as you said, just about
Speaker 10: my perspective and stuff.
Speaker 1: What you talked about being a grandfather.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna play well quick one from uh
Speaker 3: you And I was these new head coach Dan Mullen.
Speaker 2: Coach your players swear about the athletic the academic.
Speaker 1: Advisors that you have. So how much has the cast
Speaker 1: has that been for you recruiting?
Speaker 6: It's huge obviously.
Speaker 12: I think I think the comfort uh Weddlely their crew,
Speaker 12: all our academics have do an unbelievable job, uh you know,
Speaker 12: and he has the experience of landscape, I mean the
Speaker 12: run and my expectations of academics and I, you know, showing.
Speaker 6: Up here at UNLV.
Speaker 11: I love that.
Speaker 4: I said, Hey, Roland, it was like my wife the
Speaker 4: first team meeting, like you to get after every I said, well,
Speaker 4: I said, to be honest with Janius, guys in this.
Speaker 6: Room won eleven games last year with a three point
Speaker 6: two GPA. The other have I just recruited.
Speaker 12: I don't really have much to get so, uh, you know,
Speaker 12: everything's kind of headed in the right direction.
Speaker 4: I think one of the great things as the coach
Speaker 4: com inside, I have to taken over programs where you
Speaker 4: had to commit and there were a lot of academic
Speaker 4: issues within the football team to get fixed.
Speaker 6: And I showed up here and.
Speaker 1: We're done.
Speaker 4: That's been handled, and so I think that aspect of
Speaker 4: we were pretty blessed to have an athletic academic support.
Speaker 6: Uh doing unbelieva.
Speaker 11: What's the best part for you just being in the state.
Speaker 2: Of Nevada, being at arn V. What's some of the
Speaker 2: coolest things you've had a chance to do since.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 12: I mean I love I mean, there's so many I
Speaker 12: still got I mean, I love being.
Speaker 6: Here here in Las Vegas. I can't wait gets helping.
Speaker 6: Year one is such a world, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm trying to lads, it's whenever you take
Speaker 4: over a program, it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 6: To breathe until February.
Speaker 4: But next February I get to breathe by right, and
Speaker 4: you're getta be like, Okay, we've made it through year one.
Speaker 4: Like I know how I know how the program works.
Speaker 6: I know all the different things.
Speaker 4: But I mean when you get to the shows, the restaurants,
Speaker 4: I mean I hiking, I can't wait. I even out
Speaker 4: on the link.
Speaker 6: Medi get on a boat. I'd even get a boat
Speaker 6: and get out there on the lake. I want to
Speaker 6: go check that out. I haven't gone for wheeling out
Speaker 6: in the desert. I haven't been to the ver Dan.
Speaker 4: There's all this, I mean, all the different things I've
Speaker 4: gotten seen awful lot.
Speaker 6: Of the city.
Speaker 11: I gotta get out and just see our shrounding area.
Speaker 6: There's so much for me too.
Speaker 12: And try to lay all the golf courses right and
Speaker 12: the other on my number one courses.
Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna pass up with pilos, but I want to
Speaker 4: give them that opportunity to.
Speaker 6: I think all of.
Speaker 4: That, to just enjoy everything that that in the city of.
Speaker 6: Las Vegas has got.
Speaker 3: Actually gonna play a Boise State head coach Spencer Danielson.
Speaker 6: So obviously you come up.
Speaker 2: With historic season, gent rush your f like three thousand
Speaker 2: yards pretty much. You lose Andrew Simpson, but you lose
Speaker 2: all that talent, but you have even more depth and
Speaker 2: experience up front.
Speaker 1: How or how some of those guys in those positions
Speaker 1: stepped up.
Speaker 6: I think every year is a new year, all right.
Speaker 13: I mean, you got last season, so proud of our team,
Speaker 13: Thank you Jesus for all the things we're able to
Speaker 13: accomplish as a team. The second that season was over,
Speaker 13: it's a whole new team. Even our guys that are
Speaker 13: still there, they're gonna be different.
Speaker 6: Players than they were a year ago.
Speaker 13: So guys that we've lost either a graduated or left
Speaker 13: in the transfer.
Speaker 6: Portal, they're not a part of our team anymore.
Speaker 13: We need guys to step up and grow and develop
Speaker 13: and really excited about our team this offseason and how
Speaker 13: they've been able to do that.
Speaker 6: That's where this summer I've called it.
Speaker 13: The edge as at the edge, because that's something to
Speaker 13: prove every single day.
Speaker 6: Nobody cares what you did last year. We've been picked
Speaker 6: to win the.
Speaker 13: Mountain West fifteen straight years and haven't always done it.
Speaker 6: So last year, thirteen of the.
Speaker 13: Top twenty five fools named in the preseason end of
Speaker 13: the season unranked.
Speaker 6: So what you've done in the past.
Speaker 13: Doesn't matter all about what you're gonna do going for
Speaker 13: noting for our players, not even for our team. And
Speaker 13: so that's our biggest push right now with forty whatever
Speaker 13: days to kickoff.
Speaker 2: How important is Nate Potter to this This team obviously
Speaker 2: legend and in case he talked about.
Speaker 13: Him the winningest offensive lineman in college football history too.
Speaker 6: Don't get that twisted. But no, Nate Potters.
Speaker 13: So we gad together Boise State in twenty seventeen. One
Speaker 13: of the best teachers I've ever been around, a relentless worker,
Speaker 13: connects very well with the team, and our offense is
Speaker 13: in great hands. I mean, he's got a phenomenal schematic mind,
Speaker 13: sees the game in a way that is very special
Speaker 13: and not only schematically, but brings a mentality to our
Speaker 13: offense that is going to be very excited.
Speaker 6: He's earned it.
Speaker 13: He was the co offensive coordinator last year, really integral
Speaker 13: in our run game from creating it to implementing it
Speaker 13: and now having his hand on the entire offense with
Speaker 13: a with a.
Speaker 3: Lot black man to integrate the NFL and he the
Speaker 3: University of Reno, Nevada alum. So that's kind of great
Speaker 3: African American history. Like UH coach cho and Nevada. He's ah,
Speaker 3: he's up on the culture and I respect that and
Speaker 3: he's he's built. Even though Nevada hasn't had a winning
Speaker 3: record in a minute, the culture he's built and with
Speaker 3: all these coaches in the Mountain West have the same
Speaker 3: thing in common. Yeah, they may not have the record
Speaker 3: they want the first couple of years, but that year
Speaker 3: three something clicks at all their programs Hawaii, something clicked
Speaker 3: and now they're they were like one game with being
Speaker 3: BOE eligible, they got just like a whole foundation.
Speaker 1: That's why I love about the Mountain West.
Speaker 3: It's like it doesn't matter what team is there, that
Speaker 3: underdog spirit is there and they build a culture.
Speaker 1: They're just like great teachers.
Speaker 3: It's always a great time talking to all those dudes,
Speaker 3: even the players, like the Air Force guys were cool
Speaker 3: to talk to. One guy's going into the space pro
Speaker 3: in the space program, which is kind of wild. When
Speaker 3: you think about it, like he's playing tight end playing
Speaker 3: football at air Force. Then once he's done an Air
Speaker 3: Force he's going to the Space program.
Speaker 1: So you know, cool stuff.
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, I'll drop some more interviews closer to
Speaker 3: the season because some guys. Some of these guys dropped
Speaker 3: a lot of good game just on you know, life
Speaker 3: and in general and what. Like one dude, there's just
Speaker 3: like a defensive tackle for San Diego State. He's bowled
Speaker 3: like three perfect games. He like he was talking about
Speaker 3: bowling down to a science. He's like, I don't know
Speaker 3: how people throw really hard. I was like, what do
Speaker 3: you mean by that? He was like, I don't get
Speaker 3: how people can throw twenty miles an hour. Now mind you,
Speaker 3: I want to throw a bowling ball twenty seven miles
Speaker 3: an hour. But that's because I was trying to throw
Speaker 3: that shit as hard as hell. He's like it's in
Speaker 3: the wrist, Like there's certain dudes the way they bowl.
Speaker 1: Like he's like a legit bowler.
Speaker 2: I think his average is like two seventy or some
Speaker 2: crazy shit, Like he's an insanely great bowler and he's
Speaker 2: just playing the tackle at San Diego's date. So like
Speaker 2: all these dudes like Chubbah Party Rock Perty's little brother golfer.
Speaker 2: He says he's better at golf than his older brother Brock.
Speaker 2: But and they said he the coach. He is a
Speaker 2: great athlete.
Speaker 3: So you know, we got Big ten media day next
Speaker 3: week Tuesday to Thursday, so that'll be fun and interesting.
Speaker 3: Couldn't go to Big twelve this year because lost my
Speaker 3: ID ten days before I was supposed to go, which
Speaker 3: kind of chaps my ass a lot, and it'll probably
Speaker 3: just bother me forever, but eventually I'll get over it
Speaker 3: one day. But hey, we got Mound West and mightn't
Speaker 3: be covering a UNLV home.
Speaker 1: Game to start the season next month, so we shall
Speaker 1: see that she was wild.
Speaker 2: I just saw some of stuff at every Fire with
Speaker 2: barbiee sauce and raw chicken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just fucking wild.
Speaker 3: Bro Yeah, they did some crazy ill some of the
Speaker 3: it's hilarious. Yeah, next segment.
Speaker 2: All right, Kenny, you alluded to it earlier, but von
Speaker 2: Miller signed with the Washington Commanders. He's gonna wear number
Speaker 2: twenty four. U signed a one year deal. That's Shayn
Speaker 2: turnover turnover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you working?
Speaker 3: Yes, only I'm only bro, who really is a linebacker
Speaker 3: one of the greatest pass rushes ever. Like, we've gotten
Speaker 3: out of control with We've gotten out of control with
Speaker 3: these jersey numbers. Like why it's just grown ass trench
Speaker 3: player wearing twenty four. Imagine if Vidavey was wearing twenty
Speaker 3: two or seven, you'd be like, hold on, Doug aesthetically,
Speaker 3: what are we doing right now?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? This is not the game I loved.
Speaker 2: Twenty four is like a Hall of Fame number, Like.
Speaker 3: Like Lattimore should be wearing twenty four. Why is von
Speaker 3: Miller wearing twenty four?
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty four Fields of rodom. It's disgusting and it
Speaker 1: makes me feel uncomfortable. But I think forty two would
Speaker 1: be okay, forty two is fine. I think football wise
Speaker 1: is a touchdown though linebacker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, football is like if they're gonna get anything, if
Speaker 2: anyone's gonna get anything out of him, it's commanders, and
Speaker 2: the commanders continue to get some betteran buying, so he's
Speaker 2: already their best.
Speaker 3: Passions what they had had a couple of former Raiders, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that R and Key. I think when Dante Fowler lead
Speaker 3: the team attacks, Yeah, Cleveland faral thing he had like eleven, right,
Speaker 3: yeahte Fowler junior or senior.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's a great time they got,
Speaker 1: just like wearing twenty four is disgusting.
Speaker 2: The Seahawks cut Noah fu says eight point nine million
Speaker 2: touchdown or turnover.
Speaker 3: Touchdown because it's not like they was gonna throw him
Speaker 3: any He should.
Speaker 1: Tay with the Dolphins. Go to the Raiders, go to
Speaker 1: the Commanders.
Speaker 3: Go to the team where they have a young quarterback
Speaker 3: and they need a tight end. I wouldn't say go
Speaker 3: to the Cowboys's knocking at the ball, but no fan
Speaker 3: is still playing.
Speaker 2: It's still a touchdown because Seattle's low key where tight
Speaker 2: tight ends.
Speaker 3: Go to die, no retired ends go to block. Mm hmm, Well,
Speaker 3: I said Luke Wilson. Well said.
Speaker 1: Zach Miller. All Right, the last one, uh, the last one.
Speaker 2: Jawan Jennings requested a trade touchdown turnover. Yeah, that's a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They're not throwing you the ball, chief, You just a blocker.
Speaker 3: You're in a transit. You're number three, you're a lifetime
Speaker 3: number three. You're Jason levant.
Speaker 1: Dog.
Speaker 2: You saw how long it took for them to trade Deebo.
Speaker 2: They trade him, traded him after he was damn near
Speaker 2: fat and washed. See what they're doing a you. You
Speaker 2: really think they're worried about your contract? You really think
Speaker 2: they're worried about trading you. It's more catchers for kidle
Speaker 2: bro anything. They're just trying to If anything, they're mad
Speaker 2: the Bengals worked out their receiver situation because they would
Speaker 2: have tried to flip you for Trey Hendrickson in a second.
Speaker 1: They definitely tried to flip him for a third.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, you might just buckle up, try to
Speaker 2: bowl out this year and maybe get a big deal
Speaker 2: next year. Because he already got paid. He's not getting
Speaker 2: so why does he want another deal? He probably want
Speaker 2: to get traded because that receiver room is shipped. No,
Speaker 2: he said he wants another deal or trade. I don't
Speaker 2: think he got paid yet.
Speaker 1: Bro. They gave him an extension. Yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: only gave him like one or two years.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying, he's not gonna get a mega car.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna get a Jacobe Meyers deal.
Speaker 2: That's probably the goal. You probably should have not signed
Speaker 2: that extension. Then you can hit the free market like
Speaker 2: everybody else. Songs cats be playing their cards.
Speaker 1: Wrong with these deals.
Speaker 3: Once you get traded, you know what they call you.
Speaker 3: They just called you a problem gonna.
Speaker 1: Like Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 2: All right, And so this was a weird viral internet thing.
Speaker 2: But forty nine ers oh Ie Ben Drew moss Is
Speaker 2: tapped in with brock Lestern's daughter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta take her tansit on that.
Speaker 3: It's a super that is gonna be the greatest offensive
Speaker 3: line prospect. Also gonna be in next Joe Thomas just
Speaker 3: amazed that like none of sables DNA really got through,
Speaker 3: like facial DNA. Somebody said, like the body, like the
Speaker 3: like she got her mom's body and then she got
Speaker 3: her dad's physique and her dad's face.
Speaker 1: So once said that kid's gonna come out benching three
Speaker 1: point fifty.
Speaker 3: That kid gonna come out with contracts from every major
Speaker 3: from TKO, WWE, college football, wrestling, boor fighting.
Speaker 1: He might be the next super soul, all right, next one.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Graham was part of a rowing team that set
Speaker 2: a world record for the most miles road in the
Speaker 2: Atlantic Ocean. Something like that. You gotta take her attention
Speaker 2: on Jimmy Graham as a rower.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham should be doing cool shit. Good for him.
Speaker 2: He really not letting y'all define him in his career
Speaker 2: because honestly, he was probably like ten years ahead of
Speaker 2: his time.
Speaker 3: He literally sacrificed himself so Mark Andrews could get paid
Speaker 3: for sure, and Travis Kelsey, let's just keep it a
Speaker 3: being if you have sixteen touchdown catches, if you have
Speaker 3: sixteen touchdown catches, like Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Graham was putting up stupid numbers for sure, Like.
Speaker 2: It's just in saying, yeah, he couldn't block that great,
Speaker 2: but it didn't matter because he ran a four or
Speaker 2: five to one, damn near four to four.
Speaker 1: At six six dunking on you.
Speaker 3: He was putting up antony ogates number and they just
Speaker 3: didn't stick to that. They just stuck to him being that.
Speaker 3: That's when, like everybody tried to make him something he wasn't.
Speaker 3: That's why it's like, Damn, I wish would have never
Speaker 3: went to the Seahawks. Raiders could have used you.
Speaker 2: It is what it is. Definitely, you know, I wait
Speaker 2: for him. Anything else you want to add before we
Speaker 2: move on to fair fade.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So.
Speaker 3: Jamar Stewart, the Bengals first round pick, is still onside
Speaker 3: and he hasn't even reported to training camp.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They said there's no way he's gonna go back to
Speaker 1: Texas and then.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit out the whole year. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I don't know enough about him to
Speaker 2: know he's gonna last if he sits out a whole year.
Speaker 2: But I do know that the Bengals organization always got
Speaker 2: contract issues, so I hear him. I just feel like,
Speaker 2: ultimately and may end up costing him more in the
Speaker 2: long run if he's not out there playing, they're really
Speaker 2: counting on him. He was really supposed to be a
Speaker 2: catalyst for that revamped defense. Yeah, speaking of revamp defenses,
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Levi, the de tackle for the
Speaker 2: Lions with towards a cl you just got signed too.
Speaker 2: That wasn't the taker Tangent. I was just saying that, So,
Speaker 2: do you have a digger danger?
Speaker 1: Oh for the Bengals thing?
Speaker 2: No, in general? Uh, yeah, that's what I was asking.
Speaker 2: He said, you had one more?
Speaker 1: Now I just had something to add.
Speaker 2: I don't know, all right, their fade first up up,
Speaker 2: she Rice is facing five years probation, thirty dayls of
Speaker 2: jail time and potentially a multi game suspension.
Speaker 1: Fair fade. I don't know if I can talk on
Speaker 1: this one, so I'm not well. I'm gonna say it's fair.
Speaker 2: Hopefully he can serve his time and get back to
Speaker 2: his career, because he was looking at having a really
Speaker 2: promising career and then between this and the injury, it's
Speaker 2: looking a little grim. But still he's still health of
Speaker 2: a player, so we'll see what happens once he gets
Speaker 2: his legal situation right. Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl halftime show
Speaker 2: is nominated for four Emmys.
Speaker 1: Fair or fade? Fair? It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Imagine someone dissing you and then sub dissing you in
Speaker 2: front of the world, and then getting an award from
Speaker 2: a bunch of critics for it, and.
Speaker 3: Then you see like a bitch and make it worse
Speaker 3: crazy then you say UK rappers are better than American rappers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's all the way fair. Because it's
Speaker 2: on TV. Super Bowl is the biggest moment of TV.
Speaker 2: There was so much reaction and commentary and behind the
Speaker 2: the behind the lines that yeah it should why not.
Speaker 2: The only time I'm picking the UK over America is
Speaker 2: if you stick a g muskets no is if you
Speaker 2: stick a G in the middle shout out to UGK.
Speaker 1: See what I did there? Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams got a barrass tattoo this week after all
Speaker 2: the offseason rumors and speculation and bullshit that was surfaced,
Speaker 2: double down on this commitment for the team that drafted him.
Speaker 1: Fair faid.
Speaker 3: It's like at some point we stopped learning how to
Speaker 3: properly cover number one overall picks. I haven't heard a
Speaker 3: single fell I haven't heard a single story on all
Speaker 3: that on Cam since he got drafted number one overall.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard a goddamn thing about Cameron.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Sorry, I'm just narrating your killer Williams. Okay,
Speaker 2: NBC with a cat zest ad libs. Wait, you're trying
Speaker 2: to sound like who cat zest ad libs Cat Williams
Speaker 2: at cat big Cat Cat? Are you talking about like
Speaker 2: cat Cat from Carl Anthony tails?
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, Okay. I was like, oh hi, no, I
Speaker 1: was just saying you.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, I don't understand the
Speaker 3: oppression you're making right now, Like what are you saying?
Speaker 1: It didn't click?
Speaker 2: Oh ship, you're making fun of Carlson. These sounds it's
Speaker 2: not basketball season though. Shout out to the w NBA
Speaker 2: chest season though, it's kind of always jesty season. I
Speaker 2: guess let's talk. He ain't outside people talking about it.
Speaker 2: People aren't outside bathing, like they're not bathing probably when
Speaker 2: they leave the house.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I like the little politically correct beer.
Speaker 2: You you fake the cutback and then got back to
Speaker 2: your block, and I see what you did.
Speaker 1: See what you did there?
Speaker 3: I saw the whole. I just had to lead you
Speaker 3: towards it. Leads you towards it, so I could just
Speaker 3: show you where I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To go, you know, all right, man? Anything else you
Speaker 2: want to say? Trying to close out the show.
Speaker 3: A lot of guys got paid and a lot of
Speaker 3: guys didn't. The moral story is nobody listened to that
Speaker 3: fucking justin b problem. Shout out to the Clips and Tyler,
Speaker 3: the creators dropping the album Don't Touch the Glass dropped
Speaker 3: on the twenty first Can't Wait. Shout out to the
Speaker 3: dudes who are just aren't corny, because like, for real,
Speaker 3: what about the UK do you like? Besides MF Doom?
Speaker 3: It's like, quick, what about UK rap? Have you ever
Speaker 3: listened to?
Speaker 1: Done?
Speaker 2: You got a lot of dramatic pauses, but the show
Speaker 2: was fire, so I'll just let it go. I generally
Speaker 2: wanted an answer this was like your best rant in
Speaker 2: about six years. Thanks, but I said that like three
Speaker 2: weeks ago too. So yeah, pick and choose when I
Speaker 2: want to hire suck.
Speaker 1: Can I go? Yeah, I pick and choose when I
Speaker 1: want to restore the feeling?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 2: Man, Well I'll just say this, uh shoot, shout out
Speaker 2: to fucking EA Sports for once again telling me the
Speaker 2: same fucking game for sixty dollars. Man, you guys, how
Speaker 2: you guys have me calling a fucking rico charge is
Speaker 2: insane For generations, you guys have been robbing my money. First,
Speaker 2: it was fucking quarters in the couch, my birthday money.
Speaker 2: Now you're just taking Now you're just taking my fucking
Speaker 2: freelance money. You're taking my tax ride off money. And
Speaker 2: you know it. It's basically the same game as last year.
Speaker 2: There's like some subtle changes. AI is a little bit better,
Speaker 2: but it's basically the same fucking game once again. If
Speaker 2: you dig, I'm gonna keep buying this shit like man,
Speaker 2: you're wrong, all right, So do better? Add some more,
Speaker 2: Add some more, ship to Road to Glory. People really
Speaker 2: fucking hate the High School for some reason. I haven't
Speaker 2: really fucked with it. The thing you will ever do
Speaker 2: in your fucking life. Think about the hardest level of
Speaker 2: Super Mario Bros. With no memory card. It's harder than that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, outside of that, I went to Las Vegas
Speaker 2: last weekend when my boy Max, my family was out there.
Speaker 2: We met them out, met up with them, went to
Speaker 2: Summer League. It's a great time. It's like my twenty
Speaker 2: three year going to Summer League. I went on the
Speaker 2: roulette table, lost on the roulette table, is what it is.
Speaker 2: It was good time. Glad it's over. Trying to stay
Speaker 2: sober these next few weeks before a football season. But
Speaker 2: outside of that, man excited for the youth football season.
Speaker 2: My offensive line is coming together for the OCI Trojans, so.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 2: Anyways, It's touchdowns and Tangents TDS underscore Tangents on Twitter
Speaker 2: and Instagram, touchdowns at tangents dot com.
Speaker 1: We are out peace. Peace. Nobody listens to that. Justin
Speaker 1: Bie