WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:04.960 Weird. 2 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:55.119 We welcome back Midnight. 3 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:57.560 You was Father them Alone's weekly round Up. I am 4 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:00.600 Father Alone and with me as always, it's a miss 5 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.920 Ripley jeans. Say hello to everyone. Ripley, that's what you're 6 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.040 starting with. No, and you're not starting at all. No 7 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:09.480 first pick for you. We've gonna We've got a whole 8 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:12.359 other guest to deal with here. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, 9 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:14.640 you got to welcome a special guest co host to 10 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:17.840 the show. This is technically a crossover Father Maloone's Weekly 11 00:01:17.920 --> 00:01:20.959 round Up, crossing over with Night Mister Walters, a taxi 12 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:26.599 podcast and its host, the the Evervescent. Mister h P. 13 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:28.000 Welcome HP. 14 00:01:29.200 --> 00:01:29.560 Thank you. 15 00:01:29.799 --> 00:01:32.879 I'm just sitting here making my famous sharks Fin soup 16 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:36.000 and listening to Shake, Rattle and Roll, and I'm happy 17 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:36.480 to be here. 18 00:01:36.519 --> 00:01:37.280 Thanks for having me. 19 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:40.719 Oh my god. It's a foretelling. It's a forbearance. It's 20 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:44.560 a harbing joke of things. Yeah, I love it. 21 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:46.560 Trend it around on you. 22 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.239 Now listen, Rip, you don't get first pick. Technically HP 23 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:51.719 is getting first pick here and and I am along 24 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.640 with him. We are starting with a branded new film. 25 00:01:54.640 --> 00:01:56.760 We're gonna be talking about this one, probably for the 26 00:01:56.760 --> 00:01:58.840 majority of the episode. This is probably going to be 27 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.599 a longer episode than usual. Nevertheless, probably worth it because 28 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:06.040 if you hate baby boomers, oh man, you're my people, 29 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:09.360 we're gonna be talking about here. From twenty twenty four, 30 00:02:09.599 --> 00:02:15.120 starring Tom Hanks and Robin Wright and directed by Robert Zemeckis, 31 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:19.400 screenplayed by Eric Roth and Robert Zimchis, from a graphic 32 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:23.120 novel of the same name. I think Roger McGuire was 33 00:02:23.159 --> 00:02:30.520 the original author there anyway, here's the fucking trailer. Hey, Dad, 34 00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:32.960 like didn't meet Margaret's nice to meet you. 35 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:34.159 Margaret, Nice to meet you. 36 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:35.039 Mister young. 37 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.039 Tom sure does find on that. 38 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:45.199 Sure does take a straight, too strong a course to 39 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:46.280 the corner of. 40 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:55.919 Beloved make qun so fast. She hasn't gotten time to 41 00:02:56.120 --> 00:03:09.919 make you Stop time time we your time business is chch. 42 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:18.919 Right. 43 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:29.080 Here is where we want to be. You know, if 44 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:33.639 you like, you could spend the rest of the night here, 45 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:41.280 I could spend the rest of my life here. 46 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:47.759 Stop time. Time we do business is couch. 47 00:03:55.159 --> 00:04:05.960 This was our home. We lived here HP you saw 48 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.360 here I did, and we're both here. 49 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:10.360 You're there and I'm here, I'm. 50 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:11.000 Here, You're there. 51 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:13.960 Oh well, then either way it's better. 52 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.120 Than the movie we just saw. What was your opinion 53 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:18.240 on the movie? Not to not to bury the lead? 54 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:22.399 So I may be in the minority father alone, But 55 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:25.519 I really I always loved the movie Forrest. 56 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:25.759 Come. 57 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:29.639 Like I said, I know that's maybe an unpopular opinion. 58 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.959 Excuse me these days. So I was actually rather. 59 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.800 Looking forward to hear and when I saw the trailer, 60 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:36.920 I figured I knew. 61 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:37.720 What to expect. 62 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:42.639 We've talked about Robert Zemeckis and his sort of flights 63 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:44.720 of fancy. I don't know how else to describe them. 64 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:46.920 His he loves pushing the envelope some. 65 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:49.720 Good and bad ends. 66 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.040 So I was looking forward to it, but I have 67 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:56.839 to unfortunately I did not love this movie. 68 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:58.360 There were I did think. 69 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:00.199 There were some good points and some bad points, which 70 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:03.040 I'm sure we'll go into, but if you're looking for 71 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.639 like a capsule like review from me, it was rather disappointing. 72 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:11.439 Rather when I first saw the trailer and we first 73 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.279 talked about the very first five the Malone's Weekly Round 74 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.079 of You and I talked about the trailer. I had 75 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:19.079 you on the show then, and what I said about 76 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:23.199 it then was it looks like the film version of 77 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.319 Disney's Carousel of Progress, where you would sit in a 78 00:05:26.360 --> 00:05:31.720 theater and they had a on stage, a rotating stage, 79 00:05:31.759 --> 00:05:35.000 where they would show you a house from log cabin 80 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.480 days through the future, but the whole it would the 81 00:05:37.480 --> 00:05:39.800 sets would rotate from one to the other, and animatronics 82 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.519 would act out a scene of that time. That's what 83 00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:45.759 this movie looked like to me now in retrospect having 84 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:49.759 seen it, It's not that, not at all. Instead, it's 85 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.120 what you would see in a museum, like a natural 86 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:57.560 history museum or the Museum of Science, where it would 87 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.399 be this is the life of a home. If you 88 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:04.519 chopped it down even further, if you in fact eliminated 89 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:07.040 most of the Tom Hanks story, and you can have 90 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.279 this playing on a loop in a little theater that 91 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:11.560 you would probably go sit in just to get away 92 00:06:11.600 --> 00:06:14.199 from the crowds that are jamming up all the exhibits 93 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:17.800 at your local kid friendly museum. You're like, oh my god, 94 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:19.560 this the air conditioned in here, and it's quiet. We 95 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:21.519 can just watch this thing. What is this life of 96 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:22.199 a House? I guess? 97 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:22.319 So? 98 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:26.120 Oh, how coincidental that Benjamin Franklin was dropping by that 99 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.839 particular bit of property. Well, anyway, I hope the gift 100 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:29.680 shops open. 101 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:32.839 And I can see in my mind's eye the exhibits 102 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:34.439 you're talking about, where you'd go up to it and 103 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.000 maybe you'd press a button and the button would make 104 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.560 the lighting inside of this exhibit change, and maybe a 105 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.160 recorded voice would say, here's to nineteen fifty kids, and 106 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:44.839 then maybe they play a little bit of Howdy duty 107 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:45.519 and then you know. 108 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.519 But the karauselo progress thing. 109 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:48.920 I kind of had that in the back of my 110 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:52.720 mind when I went in to see this movie. But no, I, 111 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.279 like I said, there were some All the good points 112 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:56.639 that I think we're going to go into are all 113 00:06:56.680 --> 00:07:01.720 technical in nature. There's nothing for me st wise, acting 114 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.199 wise that I can really recommend this picture, which was 115 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:07.360 really disappointing, because these are some fine actors. 116 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:09.800 Let's talk Robert Samkis for just a moment, shall we. 117 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:14.759 Now you mentioned we've talked about it off air a lot. 118 00:07:15.319 --> 00:07:19.639 Robertson Mekis has always been a filmmaker, pushing the technological 119 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:24.800 envelope of what you can do with filmmaking, what you 120 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:27.560 can do with cameras, what you can do with other equipment. 121 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:31.000 Let's do this animated film, and we'll make it look 122 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.040 photo realistic. Let's make a movie about a guy on 123 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:36.279 a desert island and he has to get thin, so 124 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:39.160 we'll film half of the movie. Then we'll go make 125 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:41.759 another movie in the interim while that guy gets thin, 126 00:07:41.879 --> 00:07:44.720 and then we'll finish that movie. Little things like that. 127 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:48.600 And then, of course, as soon as motion capture was 128 00:07:48.759 --> 00:07:51.560 a possibility, he was off to the races. He didn't 129 00:07:51.560 --> 00:07:54.439 even want to make live action films anymore. It afforded 130 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.360 him such a level of control. So it stands to 131 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.160 reason that he would be the guy to make the 132 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.439 movie that the camera is locked down for the entirety 133 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:08.000 of the motion picture, and him finding interesting ways to 134 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:12.519 keep our attention from falling through the floor. Right. But 135 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:15.720 here's what I'd like to ask you, HB, what's the 136 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:17.639 last good Robert Ziemki's film? 137 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:23.480 Ooh, that is a very very good question. Probably Forrest Gump. 138 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.680 I guess Castaway came after Forrest. 139 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:27.839 Okay, so that's pretty good. I agree Castaway is a 140 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.959 good movie. Take that back, and I like what lies 141 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:35.759 beneath That movie got me. I responded to everything they 142 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.360 were doing in that movie speaking of technological innovation, like 143 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:41.919 there's so much wonderful like stuff that, you know, like 144 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.440 the way Hitchcock would innovate with the camera, like Zamecas 145 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:49.639 was like really firing as a filmmaker with that film. 146 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:53.639 I agree, And actually I can't help but agree with 147 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:56.399 you that I'm actually I confess. I pulled up a 148 00:08:56.399 --> 00:09:00.720 list of his credits and yeah, Castaway for me is 149 00:09:00.799 --> 00:09:03.720 the last movie that I can say with any assurance 150 00:09:03.720 --> 00:09:05.879 that I thought was a good movie from Robert Samackis 151 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.039 Bealo Wolf was that right after that Polar Express, he 152 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:14.120 made this movie The Walk, which was a fictionalized telling 153 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:17.240 of that that the story. There's a documentary Man on 154 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:18.879 Wire about the Frenchman. 155 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.000 Who oh, yes, World Trade Center. 156 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:23.679 I saw that in the theater The Walker or. 157 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:27.000 Man on Wire, both Man and Wire was amazing. I 158 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:30.039 loved Man on Wire. I did not think The Walk 159 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:32.360 was necessary. 160 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:33.600 But what have you? 161 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:38.720 Welcome to Marwin, which was another fictionalized. 162 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:42.759 Version of a fucking fantastic documentary. 163 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:47.480 Yes, mar another, Yeah, exactly, another great documentary that they 164 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:50.240 made a movie out of. He did Pinocchio, which I 165 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:53.440 think was that over COVID whatever, over the pandemic, I. 166 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:57.679 Think maybe that sure, And here's the thing. It's completely 167 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:02.320 unnecessary film. I didn't really respond to it all that much. 168 00:10:02.519 --> 00:10:06.960 But the ending is a better ending than Pinocchio, better 169 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:13.120 than the centuries old Carlo calode original Fairies. They have 170 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:16.720 a better ending in this movie. In that movie, it's 171 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:19.600 not good. Don't watch it, but maybe check out the 172 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:20.480 last ten minutes. 173 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:24.120 I agree, I agree, so, but that is stunning to 174 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:26.320 as you dig into this, the fact that we have 175 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:30.480 to reach back some what fifteen years or so to 176 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:35.639 his last excellent, you know, agreed upon excellent movie. 177 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:38.840 When did he do Contact? I'll count contact. 178 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:42.639 Contact would have been nineteen ninety seven. 179 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:45.039 That's almost thirty years. 180 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:47.440 Now. That's a long time, and he's made a lot 181 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:49.480 of movies in the interim, and none of them have 182 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:50.840 been very good or memorable. 183 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.519 Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm going to chalk this one 184 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:59.720 up as another beautiful failure from robertszamachas a plus on 185 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:01.279 AFT as always. 186 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:06.039 But the stunning part for me is the fact that 187 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:11.000 the acting was so overly melo dramatic and just didn't 188 00:11:11.200 --> 00:11:16.240 suit the caliber of actors that were on screen. That 189 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.159 I'm sure a lot of that is down to the writing, 190 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:20.679 but I think a lot. 191 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.200 A lot of that is down to this was a melodrama. 192 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:28.080 But I guess I don't know, it just didn't. 193 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.279 I guess if this movie were made in the eighties, 194 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:36.639 let's say, maybe this style of acting would have suited 195 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:37.480 the material a. 196 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:40.120 Little bit more. But I was and that's I guess. 197 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:41.759 It's part of it is me coming in with my 198 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:45.279 own expectations about what I was going to experience. So 199 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.159 maybe shame on me to a certain degree. But I 200 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.039 mentioned this to you offline. There's this scene where I 201 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.600 knew that there was no saving this movie was There's 202 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:59.120 a scene where Paul Bettany's character is Tom Hanks's father, 203 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:02.440 and he's this bit war veteran who is his dream 204 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:06.200 has been thwarted. It's basically like George Bailey and his 205 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.519 wife has suffered a stroke in the movie, and he 206 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.679 wakes up one night and he has this anguished monologue 207 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.000 about how he had a dream about his beloved Rose 208 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:20.320 and he couldn't reach Sure. And I was so oh Rose. 209 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:23.080 I said to myself, this is Paul Bentany, this is 210 00:12:23.120 --> 00:12:26.240 gangster number one. This guy is a great actor, and 211 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.720 I'm not seeing that here. Anyone could have delivered that 212 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:33.240 monologue with the same over the top histrionics that he did. 213 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:34.000 What did you think? 214 00:12:34.360 --> 00:12:38.519 I couldn't agree with you more, particularly in the context 215 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:42.000 of had this come out in nineteen eighty eight, then 216 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.639 it would be perfectly in line with how the movie 217 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.440 would have been acted then, but which makes no excuse 218 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:53.159 for how it's acted now. And yes, Paul Bentany is 219 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:55.799 terrible here, but guess what, there's a lot of terrible 220 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:59.120 to go around. Let's break the whole movie down. If 221 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:00.799 you haven't seen it yet, if you don't know anything 222 00:13:00.799 --> 00:13:02.240 about it, you ought to know that we're going to 223 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.159 spoil the fuck out of this, So see the movie 224 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.240 and then get back to us. But I mean, look, 225 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:09.399 there's nothing really to spoil. If you've seen the trailer, 226 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.000 you know what's going to happen. It's effectively one camera 227 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:17.440 position from the dawn of Time up until this year, 228 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:21.399 and the majority of the story takes place from let's 229 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.919 say what the twenties, basically the Paul Bettany character that's 230 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:28.960 after the war, so that's the forties. So from the 231 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:32.559 nineteen forties to twenty twenty four, we get the tale 232 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:36.399 of the parents of Tom Hanks, we get Tom Hanks's story, 233 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:39.039 he falls in love, has his own family and raises 234 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:42.120 them in the place. Before that, we get a very 235 00:13:42.159 --> 00:13:47.919 conveniently placed camera for the end of Dinosaurs, we have 236 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:51.600 the extinction level event happened within what will eventually be 237 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:55.759 the bay window of this house. And then here's the thing. 238 00:13:56.279 --> 00:14:00.120 What you get from the trailer is I thought we 239 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.480 were going to fast forward through time and then just 240 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.759 start with Tom Hanks's family. It's not what we get. Instead, 241 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.480 what we get are snippets of the other people who 242 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:15.240 have occupied the house, including the Native Americans that flitted 243 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:18.440 about and looked mystical for a while for a period. 244 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.240 So the way that we go in and out of 245 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:26.840 these scenes is that these little rectangles appear that show 246 00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:30.639 us the other timeline, and then eventually the whole scene 247 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.279 will fade into the other timeline, right. 248 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.440 Which is taken directly from the graphic novel. Though that 249 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:38.120 has to be said, so I was expecting that, and 250 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:41.919 I was anticipating it. But what I will say is, well, 251 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:43.840 let me ask you, have you read the graphic novel 252 00:14:43.840 --> 00:14:46.639 Father alone. I have not, So I did an anticipation 253 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:49.200 of seeing this movie, and it's no shock for me 254 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:52.000 to tell you that it's much better than what we got. 255 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:53.480 It's just because it's easier. 256 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:57.399 The form allows you to do some interesting things that 257 00:14:57.440 --> 00:14:59.960 you can't you just can't convey you have to a movie. 258 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:03.039 You can't have such a fractured narrative. It's already pretty 259 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:06.480 fractured as it is. But in the book you get 260 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:08.639 those little rectangles, and what they do in the book 261 00:15:08.679 --> 00:15:12.200 that they don't necessarily do as well here is there'll 262 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:16.159 be a page where, let's say it's a woman and 263 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.480 a man dancing in the room, but they will have 264 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:22.840 boxes to show in every timeline some sort of frivolity 265 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:25.840 along those lines. So you'll see like the Native Americans 266 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:29.080 doing a dance, people in the twenties, people in the whatever. 267 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:33.600 So it's they're getting to this idea that times may change, 268 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:35.879 but people still do the same kind of things. It 269 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.639 could be nineteen twenty, it could be twenty and twenty 270 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:42.320 so forth. But the thing that I loved most about 271 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:45.080 what the book, the button the book puts on it 272 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:48.600 that they don't get to in the movie, is the 273 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:51.440 book actually goes into the far future. We don't get 274 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.960 any further than let's say, twenty twenty four the modern 275 00:15:54.039 --> 00:15:57.759 day in the movie, right, But in the book there 276 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:02.320 are frames where it's twenty one EE and there's water 277 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:05.960 streaming through the bay window. Then they'll cut forward another 278 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:09.559 two hundred years and there's nothing but water. This idea 279 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:11.960 that eventually, guess what, this. 280 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:13.080 House will be no more. 281 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:16.559 The polar caps will melt, everything's going to be under water, 282 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:19.440 and this will be effectively the end of time. Which 283 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.200 I actually like that aspect of it because it gives 284 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.440 you this idea that isn't so well conveyed in the movie, 285 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:28.759 that is, this is only an infinitesimal period of time 286 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:31.720 that these people are occupying this space and land, and 287 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.559 eventually none of that's going to matter anyway, because it's 288 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:38.559 all going to be water come in the twenty three hundreds. 289 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:41.600 Let's say you don't get that, because effectively the movie 290 00:16:41.759 --> 00:16:46.600 ends with spoiler alert, Tom Hanks's character in Robin White's 291 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:48.960 character coming back to the house in their old age, 292 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:51.919 having a nice moment. That's the end of the movie, 293 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:53.799 So it doesn't go any further than that. 294 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.480 Okay, I'm not shocked to know that these sort of 295 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:01.159 rectangle motif was in comic book. I mean, they're the 296 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:04.799 ones who chose to have one single point of view 297 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.640 for their entire books, so they were obviously going to 298 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.480 innovate in that regard. It's also the technique in the 299 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:13.480 film that made me make the connection of this would 300 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:18.200 fit easily into a museum, just as a this is 301 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.400 how the Life of a house that kind of thing. 302 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.039 It made me think of that. It also was the 303 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:27.359 thing that kept my attention because I thought they were terrific. 304 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:31.720 The problem for me was Zamechas only seemed to be 305 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:36.759 employing them as transitions from timeline to timeline, whereas I 306 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:40.480 wanted something at least what you were describing. I don't 307 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:43.559 necessarily need to see all the different timelines celebrating at 308 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:46.480 the same time, but I would have enjoyed watching two 309 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:50.720 timelines playing at the same time with wholly different things 310 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:53.559 going on, or the same thing or something. It doesn't 311 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.559 ever commit to that it feels like that's going to 312 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.039 be too much of a gimmick as opposed to the 313 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:01.480 fucking whole gimmick of the movie that we're watching. 314 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.599 This movie could have very easily been a theatrical production. 315 00:18:05.640 --> 00:18:09.039 It could have been a play with maybe some projections. 316 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:11.720 I could see them doing the boxes as projections around 317 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.480 the actors. But I actually I was like you. When 318 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.480 I went into this, I was hoping for a lot more. 319 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:20.960 I thought all the other stuff would be preamble to 320 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:24.680 the story of Tom Hanks's family, and that's what I 321 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:26.799 was hoping for, because I knew that it was going 322 00:18:26.839 --> 00:18:28.799 to be a somewhat of a tear jerker, and I 323 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:31.079 was looking I was in the mood for that. I 324 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:35.359 was expecting that, and I didn't get that. Sure, there's 325 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.960 the melodramas high there are moments that are supposed to 326 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:42.160 make you to dredge up those kinds of emotions, but 327 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:46.400 in the end, it just like I said, the writing 328 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.880 and the acting were such that I never got to 329 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:52.119 that emotional place where I felt like Forrest Gump. Even now, 330 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:53.799 when I watch Forrest Gump and it's the end and 331 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.799 he's at Jenny's grave and he's having that monologue about 332 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.240 him and little Forest, call me old fashioned, but that 333 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:02.240 still gets me. There was not a moment like that 334 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:04.680 to be had in this entire film. 335 00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:08.039 You mentioned you're in the minority likeing Forrest Gump. I 336 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.880 like Forrest Gump. I'm on record is loving Forrest Gump. 337 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:13.880 That's I think it's a perfect Robertsonmenka's film. I think 338 00:19:13.880 --> 00:19:16.480 it's the perfect baby boomer film. I think this film 339 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.279 is a pale imitation of that movie. 340 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:22.279 From it it was shocking because it's everybody. It was 341 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:24.799 billed as a Forrest Gump reunion, and that's not what 342 00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:25.559 we got at all. 343 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:26.119 HP. 344 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:29.200 Like you said, did you connect to any character in 345 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:31.519 this movie? 346 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:32.240 Not really? 347 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:36.720 No, Okay, I did. I connected with the couple from 348 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:38.359 the nineteen thirties. 349 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:39.480 Well. 350 00:19:40.920 --> 00:19:46.000 Connected, meaning I'll say this scratch that. I think they 351 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.440 gave the movie its only spark. I will agree with you. 352 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:53.799 There the movie became bright and fun and lively, and 353 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:55.920 it was they That. 354 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:57.799 Part of it I actually rather enjoyed. 355 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:01.680 But the other stuff, the stuff with Hanks's family in particular, 356 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:04.519 was so telegraphed and so obvious that I kind of 357 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:08.279 checked out of that. I should have been identifying, excuse me, 358 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:12.480 with Tom Hanks's character, because he's this artist who had 359 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.119 to make other plans in life to support his family 360 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:15.799 and so forth. 361 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:17.559 But I didn't. But I agree with you. 362 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:20.920 The lazy boy developer and his wife, they were maybe 363 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:22.319 the best part of the whole film. 364 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:24.279 Yeah, the some plot for the nineteen thirties is the 365 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:28.200 sort of bohemian couple and he is an inventor and 366 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:31.519 he's slowly working on this marvelous looking chair. I wish 367 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:34.279 I had that instead of a lazy boy with dials 368 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:41.359 and it spins and little turnstyle type stuff. I agree. 369 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.279 The movie came alive with those characters, and every time 370 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:47.559 they were on screen, I was really happy and connected, 371 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:49.960 and every time they were off screen, I was wondering 372 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.440 where they were because the story that they decided to 373 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:57.480 tell is the most baby boomer bullshit I've ever fucking 374 00:20:57.559 --> 00:20:59.839 seen in my life. And I deal with and ide 375 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:04.079 with Twilight Zone eighty five. But you know what, here's 376 00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:06.720 what the advantage that Twilight Zone eighty five had had 377 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:10.599 on it. It was nineteen eighty five and everyone was 378 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:12.759 coming to grips with the fact that they all bought 379 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:18.000 into a dream that maybe wasn't necessarily theirs. Right, So 380 00:21:18.160 --> 00:21:21.200 here's the story we're getting. That's the story we're telling 381 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:24.680 from this house. There were other stories available. We get 382 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:28.160 glimpses of those stories, each one more enjoyable and interesting 383 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:31.920 than the same old baby boomer. Oh my god, where 384 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:34.480 did my dreams go well, at least I had a kid. 385 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:36.079 Oh I'm dead. 386 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:39.759 It's sad that the biggest marquee actors in this movie 387 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.079 are the things that drag it down the most. In 388 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:46.920 terms of story, we haven't really gotten into the technical 389 00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:47.680 aspects of this. 390 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:48.279 Obviously. 391 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.400 The big thing here is that they've deaged Tom Hanks 392 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:54.920 and Robin Wright. I will go on record as saying 393 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:57.839 I thought that Tom Hanks stuff was fine. I didn't 394 00:21:57.839 --> 00:21:59.960 have a problem with his daging at all. His voice 395 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.200 obviously is not young Tom Hanks, but he's okay. He's 396 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:05.640 good enough to kind of paper over some of that. 397 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.240 But Robin Wright, I thought looked really bad. The aged 398 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.880 It was like this plasticky sheen and a lot of 399 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:16.279 the time they brought her into the hard foreground, so 400 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:20.079 you can't help but see that shiny forehead. And yeah, 401 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:21.400