WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:04.559 It seems to be a big foot leaning against a 2 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:05.919 tree in a wooded area. 3 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.199 I have seen plenty of people with big feet, but 4 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:10.599 not bigfoot. 5 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:11.119 Tree mines and brush. 6 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:13.240 You see's about a seven and seven and a half 7 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:16.519 foot tall sasquatch looking back at it, and. 8 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:18.519 It kind of looks like a wolf, but not like 9 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:20.839 a neighborhood dog. Pick these stories for what they are 10 00:00:20.839 --> 00:00:21.480 in hopes. 11 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:24.320 That maybe, like, if it's out there, then show me yeah, 12 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:27.800 and says he might have caught the mythical chup of 13 00:00:27.920 --> 00:00:31.239 cobra creature terrorizing his chickens. 14 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:31.839 Like a grunt and a knock. 15 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:34.520 It's like a oh. I think there's kind of a 16 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:37.039 cultural tendency for people to want to make Bigfoot a 17 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:50.359 quote unquote monster. Welcome to ECBRO Bigfoot Radio, and ladies 18 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:53.119 and gentlemen, I'm your host, Daniel than While. Here we 19 00:00:53.159 --> 00:00:56.520 are back with another episode into the twenty twenty five year, 20 00:00:57.200 --> 00:01:00.200 and uh, you know what, We're starting off really great 21 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:02.640 here because I'm loving the guess that we've got going 22 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:05.560 on here. If you listen and follow the first episode 23 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.840 of twenty twenty five, I really believe you guys are 24 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:10.920 going to low Our next guest tonight. 25 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:14.079 We're going to get into that very shortly, but I. 26 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:16.400 Want to remind everybody make sure you guys are marketing 27 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:19.120 your calendars for the upcoming events in the twenty twenty 28 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:22.879 five year. Of course, the ECBRO is hosting another group 29 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.159 camp out in the month of May. The film project 30 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:29.079 takes place also during the month of May. For those 31 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:31.959 who know about the film series, that will be on 32 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:37.280 YouTube Bigfoot Explorers. So if you're not familiar with that 33 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:40.120 information on that could it also be found on the 34 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:44.359 YouTube channel Bigfoot Zone ECBRO. Or you could go on 35 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:48.040 Facebook and follow all the information and content that Daniel 36 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:51.439 Binoir yours. Truly, there has been updating and posting on 37 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:56.319 all the Facebook pages. Meanwhile, I'm not going to blab 38 00:01:56.359 --> 00:01:59.400 and talk too much further. I want to introduce to 39 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:04.159 you mister John Stasco. He's with us tonight and I said, well, 40 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:06.959 you know, he's got some big Foot stories, he's got 41 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:10.639 some UFO stories, and we we will be getting into 42 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:11.919 talking about some drones. 43 00:02:12.080 --> 00:02:14.800 You guys know about the stories and all the video 44 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:16.400 clips on social. 45 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:19.879 Media and all the talks about the drones you know 46 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.639 that's been going on. We're going to get into a 47 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.000 discussion on that. But before we get into that, first 48 00:02:26.039 --> 00:02:27.199 of all, thank you for joining me. 49 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:27.520 John. 50 00:02:28.680 --> 00:02:31.080 I'm glad to have you on here. This is actually 51 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:32.759 the second time I was looking back on the last 52 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:34.159 time I had you on here, which trox to me 53 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.199 about maybe one year ago. So again, I'm glad to 54 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:40.439 have you back because it's never a dull. 55 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:43.680 Discussion with you. I really love our discussions. But yeah, 56 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:44.479 how are you doing. 57 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:47.680 John, I'm doing pretty good, like I said, just trying 58 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:49.759 to get ready for this big weather we're going to 59 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:51.360 have come in here. I guess we're gonna go to 60 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:52.599 another ice age, right. 61 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:56.319 Exactly. Yeah, from what they're calling. 62 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:01.759 Absolutely Yeah, Like I said, nothing going on here in my. 63 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:08.159 Well. Yesterday I was I was taking my granddaughter's small 64 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:09.960 car to get four tires put on it, and they 65 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.039 had a rush of people going to get tires put 66 00:03:12.080 --> 00:03:14.919 on their car because of this. And of course today 67 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:16.520 I went to a Walmart to get a bunch of 68 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:19.479 food and stuff for the family and everything, and everybody's 69 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:21.080 acting like it's going to be the end of the world, 70 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:24.000 so they're just buying everything. I mean, it's a madhouse. 71 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:26.800 But like I said, this is Western Pa. We get 72 00:03:26.840 --> 00:03:29.319 snow like this. I mean, we had that worse than 73 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.960 ninety three, ninety four, and then back in seventy nine 74 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:34.319 we had a pretty good too, So this is nothing 75 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.759 for me. I really don't care. I don't. 76 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:42.800 Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean I know what happens up north. 77 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.479 I mean, I'm I'm originally from up north too, but 78 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:47.960 you know, I grew up at a young age down 79 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:51.479 here in Virginia and the winner's down here. They've been 80 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:54.680 pretty mild on the most part. I mean, we've seen 81 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:56.719 some good snow down here, don't get me wrong, but 82 00:03:57.479 --> 00:03:58.039 it's a hit. 83 00:03:58.039 --> 00:04:00.719 Or miss, you know. But I ever since I lived 84 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:01.719 in the Shanando. 85 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:04.120 Valley, you know out here, a little bit higher elevation, 86 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:07.719 you're more out in the mountains. So yeah, things are 87 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:09.520 tend to happen a little bit more out this way, 88 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:12.680 in the western part of the state. So so yeah, 89 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.400 I totally get that. Uh, people panic, I don't know, 90 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:16.759 I don't know. I don't know if a lot of 91 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:19.160 understand it, but you know, I guess in a sense, 92 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:21.720 there's all these better to be stationed, sorry, to be prepared, 93 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:23.000 but they shouldn't. 94 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:23.160 Be freaking out. 95 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.000 They should, you know, get things, you know, start working 96 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:29.160 on collecting things, not wiping out the shelves all at once. 97 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:34.879 Exactly, so you don't mind. I wanted to tell you 98 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:38.839 something that happened fairly recently. Uh you know, I've I've 99 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.519 seen Bigfoot a number of times with witness all with 100 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:45.000 multiple witnesses. So it's not just me saying it or whatever. 101 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:47.720 But what was really strange. Let me take the last 102 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:50.639 one first. About a month ago, I take them not 103 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:53.199 even quite a month ago. I took my great grandson 104 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:57.160 Eli up to Washington Park to ride his bike. And 105 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:59.000 there's really nobody else in the park at the time. 106 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:01.439 It was a sunny day, and I go up there. 107 00:05:01.480 --> 00:05:03.920 There's this big round circle about five hundred feet in 108 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.639 diameter and was up paved. So he was learning to 109 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:08.839 ride his bike. So I showed him how to ride 110 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:10.319 the bike and stuff, and then I sat there and 111 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:12.480 watched him go around it and around it and around it. 112 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:14.959 So he come up to me the last time says, look, 113 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:19.319 papap over there. So I looked over and I thought 114 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.040 somebody was sitting behind a tree about fifty yards or 115 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:25.199 so away, and I'm looking at whatever it was sitting 116 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:28.439 behind the tree was wider than the tree, like the 117 00:05:28.480 --> 00:05:30.480 trunk of the tree. But it kept looking from the 118 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:32.480 side to the side like this and look at me. 119 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.439 So my next thoughts was it's probably a hunter or somebody. 120 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:37.639 I don't know, but it was black in color from 121 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:41.240 that distance. Now I didn't have my SUV was about 122 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.560 one hundred feet away, and my been officers were in there. 123 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.360 So I'm watching this thing. It's about that time my 124 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:50.959 wife calls me on my phone. She asked me how 125 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.240 things are going with Eli's it's great, and I told 126 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:55.240 her what we're looking at Because Eli saw it first. 127 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.480 He's nine years old or so, I'm sorry, seven years old. 128 00:05:58.160 --> 00:05:59.560 So she said, John, why do you go to the 129 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.439 car and get an octars? I said, okay, So I 130 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:04.600 got up and walking. As I'm walking, I'm looking. I 131 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.360 took about ten steps. As I'm walking looking what I'm seeing, 132 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:12.000 this thing stood up. Wasn't a bear, about seven and 133 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.439 a half maybe eight feet tall to the most black, 134 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.920 wider than the tree. It turned and walked to my 135 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:22.319 left like a man, and disappeared into the woods. Well, 136 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:23.959 my wife was still on the phone with me. She 137 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:25.920 got a little nervous, so she said, why don't you, you know, 138 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:28.839 watch out for Eli. Get him out of there. I says, okay, fine, 139 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:32.560 Otherwise I went right over. So I go back and 140 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:34.120 took him back to the car and stuff, and that's 141 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.639 all we talked about. The next day it rained, so 142 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.720 there's nothing there I could see except there's a flat 143 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.560 area wherever where it was was sitting on the ground. 144 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.639 So I'm not sure what that was. I can tell 145 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.279 you pretty much categorically it was not a bear, because 146 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:50.720 I mean, bears can walk on her hind legs, of course, 147 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:53.560 but not like a man. You know, their legs are 148 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.720 shorter in the back they get up. This had long legs, 149 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.040 stood up about seven And I'll tell you something else. 150 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.199 When I did walk over there the next day, there 151 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.519 was a limb of the tree maybe seven feet off, 152 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.199 almost seven feet off off the ground. Its head was 153 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:09.040 above that, maybe four or five inches, so it was 154 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:12.199 pretty tall. Now to my knowledge, there's no black bears 155 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.800 that fall in this area whatsoever over seven and a 156 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:17.720 half feet tall. So I'm not sure what it was, 157 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:19.279 and I don't I don't want to say it was 158 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:21.759 a big foot because you know, unless I have proof, 159 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:23.319 because that's the kind of guy I am. I want 160 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:27.279 more definitive proof. Anybody could see something in the woods, 161 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:31.000 and you know they can misidentify whatever. You know yourself, Dan, 162 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:32.879 you go out in the woods, people can see a 163 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:35.360 coyote and think it's a wolf, or they can see 164 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:37.600 a dog and think it's a coyote. That's just the 165 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.120 way it is. People. You have a tendency to try 166 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.079 to put some kind of familiarity into the things they see, 167 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:47.279 or if they don't understand what they're saying, make up anyhow. 168 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.959 So let me let me go digress. Uh, most of 169 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.079 my life in the investigative field for paranormal paranormal occurrences. 170 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:58.399 The early part of it had to do with UFOs 171 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:01.279 and aliens and that type of thing. But back in 172 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:04.160 ninety one, my director at the time I belonged to 173 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:08.160 her group up in Westmoreland County. They knew I took 174 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.360 any kind of case. So he calls me and says, John, 175 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:16.839 He says, we have a bigfoot reported case in McMurray, PA. Now, McMurray, 176 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.439 PA is maybe twelve miles from Pittsburgh, which is a 177 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:23.480 very urban area. I mean even now, so it's even 178 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.519 more so. So. My co investigatator and I went down 179 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.079 and we were on a case for about a year. 180 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.559 But we had some things happening in the meantime when 181 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.279 we were down there. Devon, who is bigger than I am. 182 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.759 I'm six foot four. Devon's sixty six and a half 183 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.360 six hundred and sixty pounds. He's a nuclear engineer. At 184 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:43.759 the time, I was an environmental site supervisor for an 185 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:50.919 environmental company called Etimo out of Cannonsburg. Anyhow, so he's 186 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.720 having boulders thrown at him and he says John, And 187 00:08:53.759 --> 00:08:58.080 we had FM headsets by the way, so he said, John, 188 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:00.480 it's coming your way. So what I did. I shimmied 189 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.799 up a tree and I waited. This is broad daylight, 190 00:09:04.639 --> 00:09:06.720 so I'm about twenty five feet up in this tree. 191 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:08.519 I don't climb trees anymore. I'm too old for that. 192 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:12.240 But anyhow, I looked down. I heard rustling down below, 193 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:13.879 and I looked down and I got some pictures of 194 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.759 these things. There's two sets of green eyes looking back 195 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:19.519 up at So what do you think I did. Well? 196 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:21.360 I shommed down the tree as fast as I could, 197 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:23.799 but by the time I got there, they were gone. Well, 198 00:09:23.799 --> 00:09:26.120 this went on and off. We had we kept hearing 199 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:30.360 howling and noises and things of this nature. By almost 200 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:33.399 a year into the investigation, we were going there every weekend, 201 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:36.600 literally every weekend. Members of our group wanted to come down, 202 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:38.320 but the family didn't want a lot of people on 203 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:40.080 the property and stuff. But you know, we try to 204 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:44.279 keep it down anyhow. I'm in the woods. This is 205 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:47.440 nighttime now, and as I'm walking out of the woods, 206 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:49.759 Devin and other people in that group i'm in and 207 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.720 plus the family to live there. Who's now one of 208 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:55.120 the guys is my one of my one of the 209 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:57.320 guys I trained to be an investigator. He's really doing 210 00:09:57.360 --> 00:09:59.000 a great job. I'll tell you about him in a second. 211 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:04.799 But we saw two juvenile bigfoot between six and seven 212 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:06.720 feet tall, come and follow me out of the woods, 213 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:12.320 two of them. Okay, multiple witnesses, thirteen people saw this. Okay, 214 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.600 now that's about it. But I mean, in my opinion, 215 00:10:16.639 --> 00:10:19.519 they were juvenile bigfoot. Okay, they weren't full size, they 216 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:23.960 weren't fleshed out really you know, heavy, but they were there. Okay. 217 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.120 About a week or so later, I get a call 218 00:10:26.240 --> 00:10:31.679 from Channel two News and they said, John, we've had 219 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:34.960 we understand you the lead investigator for Washington, Green and 220 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.080 Fayette Counties with this group. I mean, I says, yeah, 221 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:40.840 I am. It was Mary rob Jackson from Channel and 222 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:43.639 she said, would you mind if we come down and 223 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:46.480 pick you up and take you to this site where 224 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:49.799 the bigfoot tracks have been found. I said sure. Now 225 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:51.679 I had gone to about twenty below zero with a 226 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:54.720 windshield that night, so they came down and picked me up. 227 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:57.320 Now it's a strange thing is because one of our 228 00:10:57.360 --> 00:11:00.320 dear friends, Ron Howes, lived down below this area, and 229 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:02.480 I took you up there by the way and Ron 230 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:04.679 to show you this area when you were down and 231 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:08.000 visiting me the last time. But we go up and 232 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.720 it's on a church. There's a church atop the hill, 233 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:12.960 and it's there's houses up there now, but back then 234 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:14.639 the only thing was up there was a church. We 235 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:18.919 found two sets of tracks. Okay, Mary Rob, who's about 236 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.559 five week tall, soaking wet, couldn't jump between the two 237 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:25.759 sets of tracks. I couldn't either, and I'm six four, okay. 238 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:29.120 But the first set of tracks was approximately twenty two 239 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.080 inches long. The second set of tracks was almost eighteen 240 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:36.480 inches long. But the strange part about this, there's several 241 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:40.639 things about this. It's really weird. The smaller set of 242 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:44.960 tracks on the right foot was heavier than the left foot. 243 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:46.840 I think I mentioned this the last time I talked 244 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.600 about this, and I have something called a soil compassion device. 245 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.279 I can give you a pretty good estimate of what 246 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.440 something weighs based on the depth of the imprint that leaves. Okay, 247 00:11:56.639 --> 00:11:59.480 what we estimated the weight of that creature on the 248 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:03.480 right or the left foot was was about eight hundred pounds, 249 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.200 but on the right foot about one thousand pounds, which 250 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:09.879 indicated me with carrying something. Now we can speculate whether 251 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.039 it was carrying a young one or a deer or whatever. Okay, 252 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.600 but that's not even a strange part, although it's one 253 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:19.080 of them. We follow those tracks to the edge of 254 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:21.480 the hillside. Now, this town is called Creston Heights, which 255 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:25.759 is above where Ron lives. Okay, we fall it to 256 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:27.840 the edge of the hill where they can overlook the 257 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:30.039 small town. It's a very small town, not very big 258 00:12:30.080 --> 00:12:33.039 at all, more of a patch than anything else. And 259 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:35.840 they squatted down in the snow. You can clearly see 260 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:39.120 their butt prints. To my day, to my knowledge, no 261 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:43.080 one has ever gotten butt prints of a bigfoot, okay, 262 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.000 but there were two of them there. So I'm looking 263 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.840 for tracks further on, no sets of tracks. I'm like, 264 00:12:49.879 --> 00:12:52.679 what the heck? So I'm looking at the tracks again 265 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:54.799 and I had to look a little closer, and what 266 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.039 I saw was whatever of these things are? They walk 267 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:02.720 backwards into their tracks, into the heavy brush and the tracks. 268 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:04.639 Of course you can't see them in heavy brush, a 269 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:09.639 brush on the ground and studs, right, So that, yeah, 270 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:12.360 there's they're an intelligent creature. I'm not gonna say an 271 00:13:12.360 --> 00:13:14.519 animal because I don't believe in animal. I don't believe that. 272 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:16.960 I know I'm when I have people on here, they're 273 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.039 gonna disagree with me, and everybody's entitled to their opinion. Okay. 274 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.080 I'm just telling you what I witnessed and what other 275 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:25.440 people being witnessed. Okay, now the people that accompany me 276 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:29.200 after that, oh, I found hair samples by the way, uh, 277 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:31.679 and we took them to the local university and they 278 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:36.360 came back about two weeks later indicated unknown harm in it. Okay. 279 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:40.039 The hair samples were about twelve to eighteen inches long, 280 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.720 and they were dark brown with reddish tinges, but the 281 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:46.840 hair itself, the follicles of the hair was different than 282 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:52.519 a normal harm in it hair. It's like transparent, very transparent. Anyhow, 283 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:57.159 so let's move on to the next day. The next day, 284 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:00.720 I'm on I'm coming back from that investigation Murray, which 285 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.320 is still ongoing, by the way. I get back to 286 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.639 my houses around midnight and my first wife says to me, John, 287 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.960 the chief of police at California, PA called us, and 288 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.440 they want you to come up to High School Hill. Now, 289 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:15.320 let me explain something about the distance involved. And I 290 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.039 took you there as well, Dan, and I showed this 291 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:21.200 to you. It's maybe three three miles by air from 292 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:25.200 that high school hill to Crescent Heights, Okay, and there's 293 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:28.559 power lines that run it through that area. Okay. So 294 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:30.600 I go up there and on the right side of 295 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:34.879 this hill were twelve police officers and thirty civilians that 296 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:37.480 live in that area. Their lights are flashing on their 297 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:39.639 cars and stuff. And the chief of police name was 298 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:43.759 Charlie Baloney. Okay. Anyhow, I don't know if he's still 299 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:45.840 alive or not. I think he might have moved to Florida. 300 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:47.840 But he was a good friend of my family and 301 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:50.679 my mine. And I said, what's going on Charlie. He goes, 302 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:53.799 look up there, and I showed this to you too. 303 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:55.759 Before off the road, maybe one hundred and fifty to 304 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:58.639 two hundred feet away was a high tension tower and 305 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.000 as I looked, I saw something against the tree. Now 306 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:04.399 it was overcast. There was snow on the snow on 307 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:06.879 parts of the grassy area, but none on the road. 308 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.759 It was very cold the next day, so I start 309 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:11.480 walking up here. Now the only thing I had on 310 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.519 me was a portable spot like called a Q being 311 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.759 with a portable power pack for them because it's five 312 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:19.480 hundred thousand candle power, very bright. And I had a 313 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.240 stun gun on me. At the time. I always carried 314 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:22.960 a lot of money because I worked at the environmental 315 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.879 company at the time. So as I'm walking up here, 316 00:15:25.919 --> 00:15:28.080 I look behind me and the police officers aren't following me, 317 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:30.600 and I says, hey, you guys coming or what And 318 00:15:30.600 --> 00:15:33.559 they says no, look at the size of that blank, 319 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:38.000 blank thing. And I said, you guys got guns. I said, 320 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.759 you guys got guns. I don't have a gun. I said, 321 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:43.799 we're not going to say all right, So you know me, Dan, 322 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:46.759 I'm not I'm fearless about stuff. I don't care. So 323 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:51.240 I figure I'm going to be going I'm in this. 324 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:53.440 I'm in this because i want to know what's going on. 325 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:56.600 I'm not afraid of the unknown. I called myself an 326 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:59.200 explorer of the unknown. By the way, not an expert 327 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:05.399 says they're an expert, right right? Anyhow, So yeah. 328 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:07.480 Not to interrupt, not to interrupt you, but you know, 329 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.200 in a number of cases, and I'm sure you've heard 330 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:14.600 it yourself, where others will direct or or or call 331 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:17.279 you or refer to you as an expert in a 332 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:21.320 particular field. If it was a particular field other than 333 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:24.879 saying like bigfoot, that might be different. Like if they 334 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:27.679 want to call me a wildlife expert, I would appreciate 335 00:16:27.720 --> 00:16:30.240 that more. But when they I've been referred to as 336 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:35.000 a Bigfoord expert, no, that like feels very insulting because again, 337 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:37.120 just like what you said, there's no experts in the 338 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:39.080 bigwick community or cryptid world. 339 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:41.320 But wildlife is a different story. 340 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:43.240 Because I grew up studying wildlife, so you know, I 341 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:46.320 know quite a bit about wildlife, but big Put's a 342 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:46.960 different story. 343 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.639 Or a crypt if you're if you're an expert, if 344 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.919 you know an anatomy or a medical field, or you're 345 00:16:53.960 --> 00:16:56.919 a legal expert. Yeah, you're an expert in those particular fields. 346 00:16:56.919 --> 00:16:59.240 But when it comes to the paranormal, really none of 347 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:02.480 us are experts. It's okay, we're all explorers of the unknown, okay. 348 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.279 And the difference is I want to get let me 349 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:08.000 get back that. I just want to finish this part. 350 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:13.480 So I started walking. When I got closer, I maybe 351 00:17:13.559 --> 00:17:16.319 thirty feet away or so, I smelled it. Okay. Now 352 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:18.480 I was dark out, and I have this powerful spotlight. 353 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.480 I smelled it before I actually saw it, and it 354 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:26.799 smelled like dead animals and dirt and rotten leaves and everything. 355 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:29.319 And then I shined a light on it. Now, with 356 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:32.640 that much light on it, it should have reflected something 357 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:35.519 back on me. But the strangest thing about I noticed, 358 00:17:35.599 --> 00:17:38.079 and this is something that people should put down in 359 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:41.119 their databases about Bigfoot, at least the ones I've encountered, 360 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:45.640 the light was seemed to be absorbed into this creature 361 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:49.119 didn't reflect back at all, which really kind of was 362 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:51.880 weird to me. But I was so in awe what 363 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:55.839 I saw. I mean, look like I said, I'm tall. 364 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:57.920 I'm not sure you know that you've met me? 365 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:00.839 Right, Oh, yeah, I stood it. 366 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:04.799 When when I can, I can reach flat foot at 367 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.160 eight feet exactly. This thing was about two feet taller 368 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:12.480 than my hand. Massive white shoulders. Maybe, Oh, I'd have 369 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:14.920 to say, I'm guessing four feet or more and with 370 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:16.839 almost no neck. 371 00:18:17.079 --> 00:18:17.279 Yeah. 372 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:21.359 No saginal crest like a gorilla. Okay, let's keep this straight. 373 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:24.559 No sagital crest. It was a little bit, but not much. 374 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:29.119 There is no defining genitalia on it because the hair 375 00:18:29.160 --> 00:18:31.599 was so long. The hair was a i'd say a 376 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:35.440 foot to eighteen inches long, okay. The hair was dark 377 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:39.880 brown in color with reddish tinges. The eyes, as you 378 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:42.400 know as wildlife expert, and you are, and I give 379 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:47.240 you that no primeate on this planet has eyeshine. This 380 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:50.480 thing had eyes shine, green eyeshine, the same kind of 381 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:54.000 eye shine that I saw at the place in Murray's. 382 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:55.680 By the way, I think I can mention with a 383 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.279 family's name was the Horseman family. Okay, because now he's 384 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:02.880 the one son, Jeremiah is a good friend of mine. 385 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:04.759 He's the one I trained to be an investigator in 386 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:06.839 a paranormal He lives in Arizona. Now he's doing a 387 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.640 great job out there. I'm so proud of him anyhow, 388 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.799 So I got within. I started walking. Now, normal people 389 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:17.039 probably were run screaming for the lights. I didn't. I 390 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:20.920 walk closer. I got anywhere between thirteen and fifteen feet 391 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:24.559 from this thing. Its arms were slightly crossed, but they 392 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:28.599 were gigantic arms like tree trunks, like literally like tree trunks, 393 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:32.039 legs like tree trunks. The face was and the whole 394 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:36.160 body was covered with hair except around its eyes and 395 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:39.359 around its snows and a mouth, and it looked like 396 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:41.839 hair on the sides. I couldn't see any ears at all. Okay, 397 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:44.559 not saying it didn't have ears, but I couldn't see any. 398 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:49.039 And the skin color was a dark gray in color, Okay, 399 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.640 not black, but dark gray. Now, let me say something 400 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:56.359 about this. On every site I've ever been on or 401 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:59.759