Speaker 1: It's nice eyes Dan, I'm telling you eazy Bodon's news.
Speaker 2: Lady Ill thank you very much. I'm Morgan Morgan White Junior,
Speaker 2: been a pound of the BZ fabric since nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: five or so. I am here tonight. I'll be here
Speaker 2: for the next four nights Tomorrow, Friday, Monday, and Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I do my own show on Saturday, beginning at nine
Speaker 2: o'clock this week, and then until further notice the following week,
Speaker 2: I begin at nine o'clock. Donna Helper is my guest and.
Speaker 3: True, it's true. Before we go anywhere else, we have
Speaker 3: listeners who are just the best. Okay, I've had several
Speaker 3: people message me on social media, and I thought of
Speaker 3: it the moment we went to break. Don't you hate
Speaker 3: when that happens. You can't think of something, and then
Speaker 3: we go to break. It's like, oh, yeah, I've got
Speaker 3: the answer. The thing would meet me in Saint Louis.
Speaker 3: The reason that she was sad was her father was
Speaker 3: about to move to New York and she loved Saint
Speaker 3: Louis and she didn't want to move to New York.
Speaker 3: And hence she's singing the sad song and you know,
Speaker 3: just in the end, she doesn't have to move to
Speaker 3: New York. But at the time that was the big
Speaker 3: trauma that she was so sad about having the possibility
Speaker 3: that she would have to pack up, leave Saint Louis
Speaker 3: and move to New York.
Speaker 2: So people in Saint Louis had an opinion that the
Speaker 2: people in New York would look down on.
Speaker 3: Them, a bingo. Like you said, you were right about
Speaker 3: the social class thing, but I could not, for the
Speaker 3: life of me think of the context. And it just
Speaker 3: you know, sometimes that happens. So thank you to Billy,
Speaker 3: and thank you to some of our other listeners who
Speaker 3: messaged us about that. We're monitoring social media. So what
Speaker 3: we're doing, what we've been doing last hour, we were
Speaker 3: doing Christmas songs that mean something to you, or Christmas
Speaker 3: movies or Christmas TV shows, and we got a lot
Speaker 3: of good responses. But while we were doing that earlier today,
Speaker 3: I'm reading the news, preparing to go on with Morgan tonight,
Speaker 3: and I read that Bert died. No, not Burton, Ernie,
Speaker 3: not Burton or any different Bert Bert crocodile, yeah, crocodile.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Burt was ninety years old. And if you have no
Speaker 3: idea what I'm talking about. Remember the movie Crocodile Dundee,
Speaker 3: nothing to do with Christmas. Okay, just change the subject
Speaker 3: for a second. Crocodile Dundee nineteen eighty six. Paul Hogan
Speaker 3: Bert the Crocodile was a real, honest, pieces crocodile, and
Speaker 3: he just passed at the age of ninety. Okay, So
Speaker 3: that set me to thinking how many TV shows and
Speaker 3: movies had an animal as a central part of the cast.
Speaker 3: I'm not just talking like, you know, side here, like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's an animal. I'm talking like almost the star of
Speaker 3: the show. Like when I grew up in the fifties
Speaker 3: and sixties, I remember watching Lassie on TV. Okay, and
Speaker 3: I remember watching Yes, Yes, Rin Tin Tin Yo, Yes,
Speaker 3: and even The Lone Ranger with Hio Silver or oh
Speaker 3: you know, some of you may remember a number of
Speaker 3: movies or TV mister ed a Horse is a horse?
Speaker 3: Of course, of course.
Speaker 2: Spinoff of Francis the talking that was solute basic.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 3: So we can go in either direction. Okay. We can
Speaker 3: either stay with Christmas songs and movies and stuff that
Speaker 3: means something to you, or we can segue over to
Speaker 3: TV shows and movies that featured an animal in a
Speaker 3: prominent role.
Speaker 2: Either was Crockatoo Fred Yeah, Fret the Corockatoo.
Speaker 3: Yep. Remember Doc Tory, which was on from sixty six
Speaker 3: to sixty nine. Remember Clarence Clarence Yan, Yes, oh lordy,
Speaker 3: I remember Claren.
Speaker 2: Rashell Thompson was a human star. Yeah, and the kids
Speaker 2: star later went on to go into Happy Days. Aaron
Speaker 2: Moran at five or six years old. Yeah, on Doc Tory.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 3: Remember Old Yeller nineteen Best Parker, Best Parker And.
Speaker 2: If they want to take you behind the barn dogs,
Speaker 2: don't go.
Speaker 7: Don't go, Oh lordy.
Speaker 3: So we hope we're bringing back some memories for some people.
Speaker 3: Tony he's listening at home, and Tony says hello and
Speaker 3: wishes everyone a happy holiday. Bill Winnaker the same way.
Speaker 3: So if you'd like to call in and talk about
Speaker 3: either of those subjects, we would love to hear from you.
Speaker 2: Let's take Mark from Newton. He's been holding about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: So Mark, good evening.
Speaker 7: Good evening, Happy Hanukah, Donna, Marry Christmas. Morgan. Always love
Speaker 7: hearing both of you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 7: I've been a collector of Christmas music for most of
Speaker 7: my fifty five years of life, and I have some
Speaker 7: obscure ones for you. First off, the gentleman mentioned Scott,
Speaker 7: have yourself a merry little Christmas. I believe I recently
Speaker 7: heard the first lines were supposed to be have yourself
Speaker 7: a merry little Christmas. It may be your last.
Speaker 1: I don't think, having to do with the.
Speaker 3: I heard, not the version I heard either, well.
Speaker 7: That I believe was the that was the original lyrics,
Speaker 7: and they felt it was too much of a downer,
Speaker 7: so they changed it because I guess it may be
Speaker 7: your last referred to the last Christmas in Saint Louis
Speaker 7: before the move to New York, right, but I had
Speaker 7: heard that anyway. Someone mentioned Paul Harvey. I don't know
Speaker 7: if either of you have heard. He has one called
Speaker 7: the Man and the Birds, Oh Christmas Recitation, which is
Speaker 7: pretty amazing. I also think the c. W. McCall, who
Speaker 7: did Convoy, he has a very poignant moving thing called
Speaker 7: Sing Silent Night about all and that they were together
Speaker 7: with their mother. Incredibly moving piece Sing Silent Night by c. W. McCall,
Speaker 7: and also Carry Grant, the actor did one called Christmas Lullaby,
Speaker 7: which is amazing I've heard that.
Speaker 3: By the way, if I can segue back to something
Speaker 3: you said, you mentioned that you had heard that the
Speaker 3: lyrics were kind of dark in their original incarnation. That's
Speaker 3: a story that comes from a guy named Hugh Martin
Speaker 3: who was a friend of Judy Garland's. And this is
Speaker 3: kind of like he heard it from a friend who
Speaker 3: heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that is exactly the case,
Speaker 3: but I do know that, yes, the lyrics were changed
Speaker 3: a couple of times.
Speaker 7: And I believe they said he even Frank Sinatra updated
Speaker 7: some lyrics.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I've heard Franks.
Speaker 3: There are some people who tried to modernize the lyrics
Speaker 3: a little bit because they felt like it it sounded
Speaker 3: too much tied to the movie, and they wanted to
Speaker 3: make it a little bit more contemporary. And that happens
Speaker 3: with pop songs all.
Speaker 8: The time, exactly.
Speaker 7: And one more for you, you might appreciate this. When Donna
Speaker 7: the DJ William B. Williams as a Christmas recitation, I
Speaker 7: believe it's called a World to Grow Up in quite
Speaker 7: a moving recitation. It's kind of like a little Vetchi's
Speaker 7: Christmas book by Becky lamb.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's possible. I vaguely remember hearing something like that,
Speaker 3: but it has been a while, right, fifty.
Speaker 2: Five you're very knowledgeable. Mark. Let me give you a
Speaker 2: compliment at fifty five, you are a very knowledgeable man
Speaker 2: of what came before you. A lot of people don't
Speaker 2: thank you. Pay attention to the history of things absolutely, Dona,
Speaker 2: Donn and I've been doing for our living for years.
Speaker 3: But yep, because we're media historians, but not everyone is.
Speaker 2: And when we see somebody do it, we need to
Speaker 2: call him out and give him credit for that.
Speaker 3: A round up clause to you, sir, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you for the call.
Speaker 7: Always a pleasure, be well.
Speaker 2: Thank you you toobe hy here open line you want
Speaker 2: to call six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
Speaker 2: or eight eight, eight nine to nineteen thirty. We welcome
Speaker 2: you to do so. I'm about to take a break. Gary,
Speaker 2: You'll be next here on night Side Time and temperature
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen twenty nine degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World.
Speaker 1: Nice sights to you on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We are expanding our current subject to go from Christmas
Speaker 2: based media songs, movies, TV, and.
Speaker 3: To Well, you know what else is happening while we're expanding,
Speaker 3: We're getting all of these messages on social media. I
Speaker 3: am so pleased to see that all these nice folks
Speaker 3: are finding out about your show, because no kidding, Live
Speaker 3: live and local radio is a gift and we are
Speaker 3: so glad to spend the evening with you nice folks.
Speaker 3: So Heloda Carter and Heloda Bob and Heloda Aaron, and
Speaker 3: you know, just this is so cool. I love this
Speaker 3: all right now.
Speaker 2: If you know this, Donald, don't answer. But in the
Speaker 2: nineties there were two different TV series that each series
Speaker 2: the lead character had a pet gator, a pet alligator
Speaker 2: live and if you know the two, I don't want
Speaker 2: just the one, I want the both of them. Call
Speaker 2: in six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty or
Speaker 2: eight eight eight nine two nineteen thirty. And here's a hint.
Speaker 2: One was an adult male. One was a teenage.
Speaker 8: Girl saying a word not.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Wooburn and speak to Gary, Gary, happy
Speaker 2: holidays to you.
Speaker 5: Well, I raally ain't working that good, so I won't
Speaker 5: be able to get that question right and I won't
Speaker 5: be able to get the answer. So next time you'll
Speaker 5: tell me the answer, Morgan the animal, There's no question
Speaker 5: the top three. It's got to be Flipper.
Speaker 6: M hm, absolutely, yes, everyone loves the King of the Sea.
Speaker 2: I could keep going.
Speaker 3: But nineteen sixty Ford in nineteen sixty seven NBC.
Speaker 2: You want to know something ironic about Flipper? Tommy No, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Tommy Norton in the original movie, which came on two
Speaker 2: years before the TV series, played Bud. There were two brothers,
Speaker 2: but and Sandy. But they had another person play Bud
Speaker 2: on the TV series and the two brothers with Luke
Speaker 2: Halprin and Tommy Norton. I forget who did which, but.
Speaker 3: I always found that interesting, and I always found it
Speaker 3: interesting that you had mostly female dolphins playing Flipper and
Speaker 3: one male.
Speaker 2: Right like the dolphins for the dolphins. For the dolphins
Speaker 2: that would swim around outside of the Orange Bowl where
Speaker 2: they played back then, was.
Speaker 1: Named Susie yep.
Speaker 2: And in the movie with Jim Carrey, the dolphins name
Speaker 2: was Snowflake.
Speaker 9: Ah.
Speaker 3: There you go. The things we wonder about. I wonder
Speaker 3: how many people realized when they saw Lassie on TV
Speaker 3: that it wasn't the same Lassie all the time, because
Speaker 3: poor Lassie would have had to be three hundred and
Speaker 3: seven years old.
Speaker 2: No, so what else Gary?
Speaker 5: Well, as far as favorite Christmas song itself, what I mean,
Speaker 5: we got all the traditionals, all this that. But as
Speaker 5: Donna says, she's a big Rush fan. We know about
Speaker 5: Bluce Springsteen with his Santa Claus Is Coming to.
Speaker 3: Anta Claus Is Coming into a great song by the way,
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty five, love it right, Well.
Speaker 5: That should be on the radio every day of our lives.
Speaker 5: Is unbelievable. But there's another Christmas song from a rock
Speaker 5: and roll person. Donna knows what I'm talking about, and
Speaker 5: it should be on every Christmas all the time, and
Speaker 5: it's not. And it drives me crazy that it's not.
Speaker 5: You have any idea, Donna.
Speaker 3: I have several ideas, But go ahead, well, yes, no,
Speaker 3: I don't want to guess wrong, and I don't want
Speaker 3: to take away something that you had on your mind.
Speaker 8: So go ahead.
Speaker 3: Billy Squire yep, somebody mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say I love you.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 3: Somebody mentioned Billy Squire a little bit earlier. I've always
Speaker 3: been a Billy Squire fan.
Speaker 5: Now it is when you say Christmas is the time
Speaker 5: to say I love you. It's not a like romantic
Speaker 5: song this that. It's a rock and song.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. When I was in album rock, we always looked
Speaker 3: for songs like that. That's why we liked Santa claus
Speaker 3: Is Coming to Town because it wasn't some wimpy little song.
Speaker 3: I mean, you could play it on album rock.
Speaker 5: And one last note, a buddy of mine invited me
Speaker 5: over for Christmas dinner and so forth. He's a single guy,
Speaker 5: real nice guy, but he's very, very boring, and I
Speaker 5: hate to hurt his feelings, right, So I told him no,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take a pass on coming over and having
Speaker 5: dinner with you or whatever. But then watching some old
Speaker 5: Bonnie Miller reruns.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's Bonnie Miller stupid.
Speaker 5: It was my own little stupid joke.
Speaker 2: Mary Chris was.
Speaker 3: Okay, Happy holidays, Gary.
Speaker 2: Bye bye. Gary's line is now open six four ten
Speaker 2: thirty or eight eight, eight nine, nine ten thirty, And
Speaker 2: we've got time to go to line to and speak
Speaker 2: to Sean in Boston.
Speaker 8: Hello Sean, Hi, how are you? Morgan?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 8: And you I'm doing good. I just wanted to call
Speaker 8: up to make a clarification on the Judy Garland song.
Speaker 8: Two years ago today, the Wall Street Journal had a
Speaker 8: full article on that song, and it was very impressive
Speaker 8: and emotional. It's both a micro level on a macro level.
Speaker 8: The song was written before the movie came out, and
Speaker 8: what it was about was World War Two, and that's
Speaker 8: why the whole song is about like families being separated.
Speaker 8: You know, your next door neighbor, mister O'Brien's kid who
Speaker 8: was fighting in Italy. Your other next door neighbor, mister
Speaker 8: Rizzo's kid was fighting in Japan against Japan and the
Speaker 8: South Pacific. So that's why the lyrics were very melancholy.
Speaker 8: And with that other caller said about the first line
Speaker 8: being harsh, that was accurate, and it was because the
Speaker 8: whole thing was about families being separated at World War Two.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And then I've seen that interpretation.
Speaker 8: Yes, and the movie did change some of the lyrics
Speaker 8: to make it less harsh and melancholy. And you guys
Speaker 8: were close and the movie, what happens is they were
Speaker 8: all moving from Saint Louis to New York. Judy Garland
Speaker 8: gets engaged and then the father does about faith and
Speaker 8: decides to stay in Saint Louis, but Judy Garland and
Speaker 8: her fiancee are still going to New York. So that's
Speaker 8: why it's really sad when she sings it, because she's
Speaker 8: singing it to her younger sister, and the last scene
Speaker 8: of the movie and the younger sisters crying because her
Speaker 8: older sister, Judy is moving all the way to New York,
Speaker 8: so the lyrics double meaning.
Speaker 3: Yes, my recollection. And again it's been a while since
Speaker 3: I've seen it. I thought that she was upset because
Speaker 3: her father had gotten a promotion and they were all
Speaker 3: going to have to move to New York. But if
Speaker 3: I'm misremembering, it wouldn't be.
Speaker 6: The first time it was going to be that way.
Speaker 6: And then none of them want to leave, but yes,
Speaker 6: that I remember, and then he the family persuaded the
Speaker 6: father to stay, but she's still going, so I might
Speaker 6: have had it backwards. But the thing is, Judy Garland's
Speaker 6: going to be in either Saint Louis or New York,
Speaker 6: and the rest of the family was in the other one.
Speaker 8: I believe Judy was going to New York either way.
Speaker 3: It's a really good movie.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's the point. Was in that scene, which is
Speaker 8: a great scene the movie dated I saw it the
Speaker 8: night after I read this Wall Street Journal article two
Speaker 8: years ago today, because it was so impressive. Okay, Judy
Speaker 8: Garland is moving away and the younger sister, Yeah, Judy
Speaker 8: Garland was going to New York because the dialogue was like,
Speaker 8: we'd like to take everything, but we can't put your
Speaker 8: snow people on the train. It's they'll melt. So Judy
Speaker 8: Garland was going to New York, and I believe in
Speaker 8: the rest of the family was staying in Saint Louis.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 8: But the more important, the more impressive thing to me
Speaker 8: was the lyrics captured the nation at that time. Oh absolutely,
Speaker 8: about all the different families during World War two, and.
Speaker 3: Yet it never mentions the war. But that's how people
Speaker 3: that's how people heard it.
Speaker 8: Yes, and I don't remember exactly what lyrics were changed,
Speaker 8: but it changed like four or five lines for Judy
Speaker 8: Garland's version.
Speaker 3: Yep, thank you.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else?
Speaker 8: Sean, Oh no, that's it. I'd say. One Christmas song
Speaker 8: I always loved is when you were taking the input
Speaker 8: for the favorite Christmas song, I always loved the baby
Speaker 8: It's Cold Outside.
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, that was a hit.
Speaker 8: It was a huge change controversial. I started actually listening
Speaker 8: to it more.
Speaker 3: Right, But it became controversial later at the time, in
Speaker 3: like nineteen fifty six. It came out originally in forty nine,
Speaker 3: and then it was a hit again in fifty six.
Speaker 3: And I think.
Speaker 1: People innocence innoce that was.
Speaker 3: Exactly the point I was going to make. I think
Speaker 3: people were a lot more innocent about it. They weren't
Speaker 3: taking it like, oh, this is kind of creepy.
Speaker 2: But with Dean Martin singing it, then people became aware
Speaker 2: of their own interpretation running wild.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I think I think it was very popular
Speaker 8: until the woke police tried to kill it and cancel it.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 3: Yes, and no, people still play it. People still play it,
Speaker 3: people still like it. But you know, you're always going
Speaker 3: to get people interpreting songs in a certain way and
Speaker 3: oh no, no, this is dirty or this is They
Speaker 3: don't we didn't know from any of that when I
Speaker 3: was growing up. I really don't think we did outside.
Speaker 8: And I think the lyrics were a lot more relatable
Speaker 8: back when it first came out because families all stayed
Speaker 8: much closer together, where nowadays families are much more separated.
Speaker 8: But back when that came out, like everyone had their
Speaker 8: uncle down the street.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, brother.
Speaker 3: By the way. In fairness, even back then, there were
Speaker 3: songs that had double meanings, double on tundras, that tried
Speaker 3: to slip things by the sensors, and songs that were
Speaker 3: getting in trouble. And it was when I was an
Speaker 3: album rock. We used to go through this all the time.
Speaker 3: With lyrics. You were always worried about that. The FCC
Speaker 3: would you know, say that this particular lyrics we had
Speaker 3: nothing to do with being woke. This was like nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy and the FCC was upset. So you know, people
Speaker 3: were always complaining about lyrics.
Speaker 8: What winding station were you employed with? You heard you
Speaker 8: mention that to a previous call.
Speaker 3: I was on the air for forty I have a
Speaker 3: four decade career in broadcasting. I was on the air
Speaker 3: in Cleveland, in New York, in Washington, here, in Boston,
Speaker 3: all over the place you name it. For a good chance,
Speaker 3: I was there. But long story better told some other time.
Speaker 2: So Jim a couple of the Boston stations. Well, I
Speaker 2: was on w on my radio at Northeastern. That's where
Speaker 2: her career began.
Speaker 3: Yep. I was the first woman in the history of
Speaker 3: Northeastern University to be on the radio, and I worked
Speaker 3: at a small station in Cambridge, WCS long gone, and
Speaker 3: then I went to WMMS in Cleveland, and then I
Speaker 3: went to WRVR and w l i R in New York,
Speaker 3: WAVA in Washington, DC. Back here to Boston, WHDH, et cetera,
Speaker 3: and et cetera. Inducted into the Massachusetts Broadcasters Hall of
Speaker 3: Fame last year.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was there, and.
Speaker 1: You was there.
Speaker 7: I saw you there.
Speaker 2: I said kind things about you into the microphone.
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that you did that. I really couldn't,
Speaker 3: but I appreciate I would do the same for you.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Maybe who knows but of her backstory
Speaker 2: for you, or.
Speaker 3: You can just google www dot Donnahelper dot com. It'll
Speaker 3: tell you a little.
Speaker 8: More about me now and I'll investigate.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, Happy happy holidays to you and family.
Speaker 5: Much love, all right, thank you.
Speaker 2: Open line six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, eight, eight,
Speaker 2: eight nine to nineteen thirty Jimmy, New Hampshire. We will
Speaker 2: get to you after a commercial the two and news
Speaker 2: here on Nightside. For the time is eleven thirty temperature
Speaker 2: twenty nine degrees.
Speaker 1: It's night side with Dan on WBZZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: We are talking about two things, your favorite Christmas blank
Speaker 2: song movie, TV series and also animals from TV shows
Speaker 2: that you may have loved. I'm gonna go way way
Speaker 2: back and keep it kind of Mardern with these next
Speaker 2: two examples. Data on Star Trek, he had a cat. Yep,
Speaker 2: tell me the name of that cat? Uh not you.
Speaker 2: This is for the whole audience. You tell people, and
Speaker 2: this is for back in our day, the story of
Speaker 2: a horse and the boy who loved him. That was
Speaker 2: what the announcer would say at the beginning of every
Speaker 2: episode of Blank. One word title, four letters in the
Speaker 2: horse's name. Anybody else there remember that TV show? We do,
Speaker 2: Donna and.
Speaker 8: I absolutely.
Speaker 6: Watch it. Watch it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. Let's go to New Hampshire and
Speaker 2: speak to Jimmy. Jimmy. Good evening, Jimmy.
Speaker 8: This is what you say, you're Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Jimmy's having technical issues, so we'll put him back on hold.
Speaker 2: There's another call on line one, and now they're not
Speaker 2: there to.
Speaker 3: Have a song. She's not there. I was also a
Speaker 3: big kid, yes record, I remember the first I remember
Speaker 3: the first song I ever played on the radio. It
Speaker 3: was Tired of Waiting for You by The Kinks nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty five.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 3: First record I ever played on the radio, well, the first.
Speaker 2: The first theme I ever played was Perry Mason because
Speaker 2: that was my opening theme. Let's try Let's try Jimmy again.
Speaker 2: Have you worked out the Kinks?
Speaker 9: Jimmy Hey, can you hear me now?
Speaker 2: Loud and clear?
Speaker 9: Jimmy very good. In nineteen seventy eight, I was working
Speaker 9: for Casta Blanca Records doing promotion in Boston, and I
Speaker 9: walked into Whight with Asscate, not even a press record yet,
Speaker 9: and acecated a song by the village people called why
Speaker 9: mca yep, yep, and Donna, This is Jimmy Drisco Donna,
Speaker 9: if you remember that name at all.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jimmy, I know you very well. You were an
Speaker 3: excellent promoter. Didn't you also bring me kiss? I was
Speaker 3: made for.
Speaker 5: Loving You.
Speaker 9: Exactly.
Speaker 3: The should have been a number one song. Oh that
Speaker 3: irritated me. That should have been a number one song.
Speaker 3: And I'm not even a kiss fan. I mean they
Speaker 3: were always nice to write. I was made for Loving
Speaker 3: You as a classic.
Speaker 9: It was a classic, and now fact. In nineteen seventy eighth.
Speaker 9: That song Hymca went to number one and seven. Let's
Speaker 9: see forty six years later, which we're now, it's again
Speaker 9: number one. Trump resurrected. Where's that campaign song?
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's a really great that's a really great
Speaker 3: issue because a lot of no but a lot of
Speaker 3: politicians they want to use hit records, and the artists
Speaker 3: don't want them to, not because they like the politician
Speaker 3: or not because they don't want to alienate half of
Speaker 3: their audience.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 9: Well, that's it, I mean, you know, and he had
Speaker 9: half the audience and the other half didn't like them,
Speaker 9: so I can imagine.
Speaker 4: But the guy, the.
Speaker 5: Writer of that song was against Trump years, is it?
Speaker 5: But then he realized months later that the thing was
Speaker 5: taking off and sewing again like Gangbusters, and now he endureged.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you something honestly? Can I tell you
Speaker 3: something honestly? And you and I go back years, and
Speaker 3: I'm so glad to hear your voice again. I always
Speaker 3: wondered where you were because whenever I talk about Kiss,
Speaker 3: I always talk about you bring me that song in
Speaker 3: a Manila envelope. Because you knew that if the mom
Speaker 3: when I saw Kiss, it would be like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: we're not playing them. I have no I had no
Speaker 3: idea what the politics were of any of the artists
Speaker 3: when I was a d J. I couldn't have told you, like,
Speaker 3: you know, who did this one vote for or who?
Speaker 3: It never came up in conversation. We only talked music.
Speaker 3: I couldn't have I mean, Bruce Springsteen vote, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We sat and talked for an hour.
Speaker 6: I couldn't.
Speaker 3: It was just music.
Speaker 8: We talked about music, and Jimmy talk about the Villagers,
Speaker 8: you know, Jimmy, Yeah, and then go ahead.
Speaker 2: I almost opened for them. It's a long story, but
Speaker 2: my favorite Village People's song was the Women, which was
Speaker 2: the B side one of their early hits. But I
Speaker 2: just like that song the people. They mentioned most of
Speaker 2: the movie stars from the forties and fifties and the
Speaker 2: repeating line of I love the women who knew they
Speaker 2: were women? And you got obviously the tongue in the
Speaker 2: cheek of the group, But I love that song. Yeah.
Speaker 9: And back in the day, Daughter, when we never saw
Speaker 9: we wouldn't think of the politics, right, I think somebody
Speaker 9: would say, remember the old American dance they break the
Speaker 9: records and some guys, says, I'll giveing it a ten
Speaker 9: because I like the beat.
Speaker 8: Oh, I go.
Speaker 3: It's got a good beat. It's easy to dance too.
Speaker 3: We'll have to talk sometime.
Speaker 9: What city are you and Jimmy, I'm in cham Worthing dancer.
Speaker 9: I'll I'll reach out to you.
Speaker 3: Reach out to me on social media. We go back years.
Speaker 3: It's great to be back in touch with you. We
Speaker 3: need to take some other phone calls, but oh, it's
Speaker 3: just just a delight to hear from you.
Speaker 2: Happy bye bye and Donna give give your information for
Speaker 2: people that want to speak to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can just reach out to me on social media.
Speaker 3: I'm on all of them. I'm on the you know,
Speaker 3: Twitter X, I'm on Blue Sky, I'm on Facebook, I'm
Speaker 3: on Instagram. Or they can just go to my website.
Speaker 3: Www dot Donnahalper dot com. D O n n a
Speaker 3: h A is in applesauce, LP is in Potato e
Speaker 3: R www dot Donnahlper dot com. I answer emails when
Speaker 3: I received them. I'm always happy to hear from people,
Speaker 3: and no joke. Jimmy and I. When I was a
Speaker 3: music director at w h d H in Boston, he
Speaker 3: was one of the record promoters that would come in
Speaker 3: and bring records for me to listen to. So this
Speaker 3: is just a big flashback, and it's kind of cool
Speaker 3: to think back to the days when I was a
Speaker 3: music director.
Speaker 2: So will you were you there in eighty one eighty two?
Speaker 3: I a little bit before that, A little bit before that.
Speaker 3: I left in eighty, left in eighty.
Speaker 2: Because I was there eighty one eighty two. I did
Speaker 2: two year.
Speaker 3: Yah, I had just left in eighty left in eighty,
Speaker 3: but had a lot of fun there was music director,
Speaker 3: worked with just Kine and a whole bunch of other
Speaker 3: really great folks. Knew all the folks over on the
Speaker 3: FM at w COZ. Yes, those were the days.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Pennsylvania and speak to Dave. Dave, thank
Speaker 2: you for calling nightside. Welcome aboard.
Speaker 5: Leaving Morgan.
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, what I'm doing.
Speaker 5: What I'm doing is I'm calling to give Morgan a
Speaker 5: Christmas present?
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, what is it?
Speaker 5: Probably from your grandma? Probably what probably from your grandma?
Speaker 5: I have this idea about scholarships, Okay, okay, And if
Speaker 5: you would put a dollar side of a week, you'd
Speaker 5: have fifty two dollars at the end of the year
Speaker 5: and you could open or start a scholarship for fifty
Speaker 5: dollars for a book fund scholarship, so that would give
Speaker 5: you your scholarship. And I wanted to call tonight because
Speaker 5: I know Nancy's there and Dons there, and I know
Speaker 5: behind every good man there's good women. So they're going
Speaker 5: to put it in your mind, and your mind it
Speaker 5: every once in a while that you should put a
Speaker 5: dollar in your pocket so you get this scholarship that
Speaker 5: you promised your grandma.
Speaker 2: You want to know what, No, I'm gonna say something
Speaker 2: that relates to that. Whatever. The last time there was
Speaker 2: a super duper jackpot, I mentioned that if I wanted,
Speaker 2: one thing I was going to do is start a
Speaker 2: scholarship in Academy Homes where I drew up and we
Speaker 2: moved there in nineteen sixty five with the first family
Speaker 2: to live in Academy Homes, and I was there until
Speaker 2: seventy five seventy six, that I would put up a
Speaker 2: scholarship just for any deserving kids boy and or girl
Speaker 2: that lived in that housing project in Boston, the Academy
Speaker 2: Homes on Kamaloth Avenue, in the name of my mother
Speaker 2: and grandmother. I did want a super duper jackpot. But
Speaker 2: you just made a good point. I don't need to
Speaker 2: do the super duper jackpot. I will do that. I
Speaker 2: will do just what you said, put a bucket two
Speaker 2: together every week. I'm looking at Nancy right now. Nancy,
Speaker 2: that is your responsibility, and make sure I stick to it.
Speaker 2: And come December of next year, twenty twenty five, I
Speaker 2: will donate that money somehow so it gets to Camy Homes.
Speaker 5: Well, you do that. You could do that for some
Speaker 5: kidkets there already who's gone to college and my needed
Speaker 5: for Put the twenty five or fifty dollars whatever you
Speaker 5: have you wanted to split it up to do it.
Speaker 2: Hey, I have a promise you, David, promise you. I
Speaker 2: will do that, and thank you for the suggestion.
Speaker 5: All right, I'm glad. I'm glad you did it. I
Speaker 5: appreciate it. Anything else, I thank you so much. You've
Speaker 5: made many evenings joy and a privilege. I'd like to
Speaker 5: call more often, but I get so wrapped up in
Speaker 5: listbon time goes by.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm here every Saturday. You call once a week
Speaker 2: if you.
Speaker 5: Can, Uh, I would like to, but I said, I
Speaker 5: got all wrapped up and listening and doing a conversation.
Speaker 5: Oh the other thing I wanted to tell you before
Speaker 5: I hang up, real bad body, get out of get
Speaker 5: out of your way, is how about the Hill's sisters,
Speaker 5: Juliette and Haley. Can you get a hold of them somehow?
Speaker 5: I know, I know you mentioned Nanny and the professor earlier,
Speaker 5: but maybe that's an idea for you.
Speaker 2: I will see what I can do. Okay, day, thank
Speaker 2: you for your call. I have to get to you,
Speaker 2: bye bye, all right, and I got to take a break.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be more late than they already am.
Speaker 2: Time and temperature here on nightstide eleven forty seven. I
Speaker 2: am very late twenty nine degrees.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 1: Late Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Roughly about eight maybe seven minutes of show left to go,
Speaker 2: Donna Helpers, Sarah Morgan, and we're going to talk to
Speaker 2: Craig in ohioa state We're Dona once was on the radiollow.
Speaker 4: Yes, he was WMMS yep, and I wanted to make
Speaker 4: a comment on it's a controversial songs. My oldest brother
Speaker 4: had a band and he played at a Catholic school
Speaker 4: where we all went and they played this song, my
Speaker 4: baby does the Hanky Panky.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep. They pulled the plug yep, Tommy James
Speaker 3: and the chondele yep.
Speaker 4: And then my brother came home and he said, Dad,
Speaker 4: My dad went to the priest already called you know,
Speaker 4: it's just a song, Carl, you know, uh, forget about it.
Speaker 4: But Carl thought he was going to be in trouble,
Speaker 4: you know, because of that song.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: But it was just that songs have different meanings.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and everybody that thinks that this is a
Speaker 3: recent problem or wants to try to say that it's
Speaker 3: political or whatever. When I was growing up, there were
Speaker 3: always songs that wake up Little Susie from nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 3: The priests were like, they didn't want Catholic kids listening
Speaker 3: to it because it was a dirty song. I didn't
Speaker 3: hear it as a dirty song. I heard it as
Speaker 3: two kids that fell asleep at the movie theater because.
Speaker 2: The movie was so boring.
Speaker 3: Yes, and there I ah, but they were sleeping together.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, the movie wasn't didn't have much of
Speaker 3: a plot. We fell asleep, Our gooses cooks, and our
Speaker 3: reputation is shot.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: People, Oh, they were outraged that song was banned in
Speaker 3: a number. It was not banned in Boston, that's a myth.
Speaker 3: But there were a number of stations that wouldn't play
Speaker 3: it in the daytime. They would only play it at night.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, why, It's a great song. But so
Speaker 3: this was even going on back then the balls fire.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The funny part about it after that, my brother they
Speaker 4: changed the name with the band to My Sin.
Speaker 7: Hmmm.
Speaker 4: Got a picture of them with it, you know.
Speaker 3: But it was like, but song lyrics all. Elvis Presley
Speaker 3: had a song called one Night and the original lyrics
Speaker 3: were one night of Sin is what I'm now paying for,
Speaker 3: but he had to sing one night with you is
Speaker 3: what I'm now praying for?
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh yeah, and you know what it was talking
Speaker 2: about Elvis. If you listen to the lyrics, the precise
Speaker 2: lyrics and Joe House Rock number twenty seven said to
Speaker 2: number three, the cutest Joe Bird he ever did. Yep,
Speaker 2: I she'll be delighted if you come rock with me.
Speaker 2: Come on and do the Joe House rocking now.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 2: In prison it's all the same sex hell.
Speaker 3: Yep, sure would be delighted with your company.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Hello, yeah, yet prisoner a propositioning prisoner b Yep. When
Speaker 2: I do trivia, I always say, if you didn't know
Speaker 2: any better, what Elvis song would you think? Deals excuse
Speaker 2: me with homosexuality?
Speaker 4: Hello yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But on the cleaner side of things. Blue Christmas by
Speaker 3: Elvis was a great song, Okay, nineteen fifty seven, really
Speaker 3: good Christmas song stands up very well. A lot of
Speaker 3: the older songs don't, but that one certainly does.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, that's a joke there. My brother broke up
Speaker 4: with his girlfriend and we was all singing that song.
Speaker 3: We all, we all had songs like that. So anything
Speaker 3: else we can do for you, you're making some great points.
Speaker 4: Well, I thank you for bringing back that memory of
Speaker 4: uh my baby does a hanky king?
Speaker 2: Oh it was.
Speaker 5: It was a great song.
Speaker 3: But again we were innocent. We didn't think about what's
Speaker 3: the hanky panky? I thought it was a dance.
Speaker 2: What did Tommy James had James and j A. M.
Speaker 2: Yes had a run of four or five years where
Speaker 2: he couldn't keep from making a hit.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, all the songs. Money Money was one
Speaker 3: of my favorites.
Speaker 2: The book and that would have gone to number one,
Speaker 2: and all.
Speaker 3: The money went to all the money went to uh
Speaker 3: good old Mars Levy and the Mob. But that's another
Speaker 3: story for another.
Speaker 2: Day, another story. I'm surprised.
Speaker 3: I remember all kinds of stuff for my DJ days.
Speaker 3: But we'll talk about that sometime.
Speaker 2: What else we get you and I will talk about
Speaker 2: that at lunch, not in front of a hot Michael exactly. Yes, Craig,
Speaker 2: is that about it?
Speaker 4: That's about it, And I thank you and thank you
Speaker 4: for the memories, and thank you for all them great
Speaker 4: sounds on MMS.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for listening.
Speaker 2: Much love to you, Happy holidays. All right, there are
Speaker 2: no more calls, so let's kibb it for a few minutes.
Speaker 2: Of all the radio stations you played, which one brings
Speaker 2: back the most vivid memory.
Speaker 3: Well, that probably would be WMMS, okay, because a lot
Speaker 3: of what happened there. I met so many up and
Speaker 3: coming bands who went on to become famous, okay, but
Speaker 3: at the time they weren't famous. And it was just
Speaker 3: I mean, Charlie Daniels, who is today one of the
Speaker 3: most you know, political he hugged me. I mean, he
Speaker 3: was just so glad that he was getting some airplay
Speaker 3: that it was just like, yep, great song. Great song,
Speaker 3: by the way, But there were so many artists that
Speaker 3: I met back then. Okay. You know where else I
Speaker 3: had some great times was at w r VR in
Speaker 3: New York, which was a jazz station.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: I grew up listening to jazz because my parents liked jazz, okay,
Speaker 3: And when I took that job, a lot of people
Speaker 3: were like, well, you were rock and roll DJ, what
Speaker 3: do you know about jazz. I'm like, you'll be surprised, okay,
Speaker 3: and I show them. Oh my god. I had some
Speaker 3: really great artists on the show, and it was so
Speaker 3: much fun to meet them in person after listening to
Speaker 3: their music for years. And I sometimes I'm just a fangirl,
Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. There are sometimes when
Speaker 3: you're just like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm
Speaker 3: sitting here talking to this person. I have every record
Speaker 3: they ever made and.
Speaker 2: Stoffe here because again news.
Speaker 3: Ah, Okay, Well, thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2: Thank you for helping me spend a great Christmas night.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for having me on on. Hanicah so
Speaker 3: much love to your listeners. Thank you for being such
Speaker 3: a great audience. Everyone, excuse me. My whole day has
Speaker 3: been like that. Yeah, I know, me and just being
Speaker 3: with me chokes you up. Being with me, chokes you up.
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for giving me a perfect outline.
Speaker 3: Happy Holidays, much love, Happy.
Speaker 2: Honikah, much love their those Donna Dan in the control room.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Nancy and Gray. Thank you. I'll see everybody
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Hopefully this little cough will be gone. Time
Speaker 2: and temperature eleven fifty eight twenty nine degrees