WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:00.880 Breaking cards. 2 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:03.839 She's a streamer, a model, and an entrepreneur and the 3 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:06.599 queen of Digital Hustle, the one and only. 4 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:09.839 Amorates Heay, things have happened to me. You were very 5 00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:12.599 welcome and excited to have a convoy with you. I 6 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:14.039 have heard all about. 7 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:16.160 You, but I wanted to know the personal, the private 8 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:18.359 talkcact that needs to be on this couch. 9 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:21.399 And we're doing a first episode here at the w Lounge. 10 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:23.399 I'm excited to have you as my first guest, so 11 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:27.079 we want to know all about the juicy details about business, 12 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.000 the branding, the late night dms, and the real woman 13 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:31.160 behind the camera. 14 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:32.960 So let's get into it. 15 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:36.799 How did you start becoming this big entrepreneur that you 16 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:37.280 are today? 17 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:39.840 Well, I used to do more cosplay stuff like a conventions. 18 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:44.240 So thinks about twenty sixteen that Twitch actually had this 19 00:00:44.799 --> 00:00:47.799 section called Creative Section, okay, and they were trying to 20 00:00:47.799 --> 00:00:50.960 get cosplayers or artists to come and join that and 21 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:53.039 you got to fast track your way to partner. So 22 00:00:53.320 --> 00:00:55.719 before that it was gaming only and you could you 23 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.200 had to have five hundredent current viewers okay to become 24 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:00.320 a partner on Twitch. But with Creative I had at 25 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:02.679 one hundred and since I already had Instagram and a 26 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.760 Facebook following for cost but I was like, well that 27 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:07.959 seems pretty easy to do, and so I joined and 28 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.439 the thing within like six months, I was partnering on 29 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:11.120 there and. 30 00:01:11.079 --> 00:01:14.760 Then and that kind of said, is that something that 31 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.480 you just always gravitated, that you liked dressing up and 32 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:19.519 you like had these certain characters that she wanted? Like 33 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:22.439 did someone kind of guide you into those kind of 34 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:24.319 things or is it something that you just off the 35 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:26.640 bat just knew that you were into it, and you're like, 36 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:28.519 let's make a business of it, because some people just 37 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:30.359 do it for fun, some people do it for hobbies, 38 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.480 some people whatever. And I think, like, what I think 39 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:34.640 is fascinating about you is how much in your lane 40 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:36.959 that you just took control. Especially there's a lot of 41 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:39.159 men in this industry where it's like having a woman 42 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:41.560 kind of pioneering those things is really fascinating. So I'd 43 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:43.640 like you to give a little insight of how that 44 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:44.359 kind of happened. 45 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:46.599 Oh, I got into COSP when I was in high school, 46 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:49.239 so I'll just go in conventions with friends. And then 47 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:51.560 I saw like a lot of girls on Instagram think 48 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:53.599 at the time, like Jessica, Me Green, other big names 49 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:56.920 were like making waves doing cost play stuff, and I 50 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:59.079 was like, well, might as well create my own Instagram 51 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:00.599 and see where go from there. 52 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:02.480 And so once I started. 53 00:02:02.200 --> 00:02:05.439 Streaming, I made costumes while I played games, so I'd 54 00:02:05.439 --> 00:02:07.280 been like a tracer cossplay and then I would play 55 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.080 Overwatch in it. And that's kind of like my content 56 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:12.560 at first, and then over time they introduced like the 57 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.120 IRL categories and it kind of just went into a 58 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:17.400 variety streamer instead of just creative. 59 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:19.120 So you kind of broke the envelope with that. 60 00:02:19.199 --> 00:02:21.039 You kind of found loopholes of kind of being in 61 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:23.240 your own niche like we were. You kind of nervous 62 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:25.000 maybe at first to test the waters, and maybe you 63 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:27.080 think that you'd be banned because now you know days 64 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:29.759 there's certain things that you can do from these platforms 65 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:30.840 that you get banned if you. 66 00:02:30.759 --> 00:02:32.840 Have such hard work that you put behind from your 67 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:35.280 viewers and stuff, or being wiped out to be really 68 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:35.879 critical for. 69 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:38.159 Someone, Yeah, I definitely got to be more of a concern, 70 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.800 like the bigger that I got, because you know, at first, 71 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:41.599 it's just fun. 72 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:42.159 It's like a hobby. 73 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.360 You're not really making that much money from it, But 74 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:46.560 as it becomes your career, it definitely you take a 75 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:48.960 lot more serious and try to be more cautious for sure. 76 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:53.400 So what were you doing before? Causeway you say like 77 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:54.639 this obviously is something that. 78 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:56.879 She probably didn't know that it would becoming blossom into 79 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:57.960 this huge business. 80 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.199 And success that it's been. But what were you doing? 81 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:01.840 Did you have like your regular jobs? 82 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.960 Like what was Amrith before Amareth became this big idea 83 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:05.919 woman that you are. 84 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:09.599 Well, I actually had my own, uh business for character parties. 85 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:13.680 So we'd do like you've always been like role playing 86 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:14.439 type of situation. 87 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.680 Yeah, exactly, So we do superheroes or princesses and do 88 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:20.199 like make a Wish Foundation visits at the hospital, so 89 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:22.960 get a little bit of like a profit in the charity. 90 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:23.719 Yeah. 91 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:27.360 Is there a particular costume or something that sh role 92 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:28.800 that she liked to play more than others so that 93 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:29.879 she'd done more frequently. 94 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:33.199 I think Ariel has been always my favorite. 95 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:34.879 Is it just because of the hair, Well, it's a 96 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:37.159 I think it's the fin I like to swim, and 97 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:38.520 so it's fun because. 98 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:39.879 The kids were just like, oh my gosh, you're Mermaid. 99 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:41.960 Then you get paid you know, and I'd be able 100 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:43.879 to COSPA that conventions too for a while. 101 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.080 So what would you give advice to some streamers out 102 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.800 there now developing, you know, their careers and stuff about 103 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:50.919 building their empire. 104 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:55.199 It's tough now, it's so saturated and I'm sure you 105 00:03:55.240 --> 00:04:00.039 know that too, and the algorithms are much less forgiving. 106 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:01.680 To females, you know. 107 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:04.759 So I think right now that if I were gonna 108 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:07.479 start today, I think the move would be TikTok and 109 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:11.199 then post the same content if you can, Instagram reels 110 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.520 and YouTube shorts, just like do all three at once 111 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:17.519 and grow from there. Because now with Twitch and I'm 112 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:19.199 on Kick right now, but it's kind of the same thing. 113 00:04:19.399 --> 00:04:22.240 Like the live streaming platforms, they don't have any discovery 114 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:24.360 and they're so saturated that no one will ever find 115 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.439 you unless you build up a brand somewhere else first. 116 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:30.439 Okay, So basically because of the saturated market, it's more 117 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.279 like working and building your brand before you even kind 118 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:34.079 of tap. 119 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:35.879 Into those Twitch and Kick type of thing. Yah. 120 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:38.439 Definitely, how did you kind of bust down the doors 121 00:04:38.480 --> 00:04:40.360 to like get where your growth. 122 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:41.199 Of your community is? 123 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:45.040 I think back when I started, you know, twenty sixteen, 124 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:48.000 Twitch wasn't nearly as saturated as it is now, so 125 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.240 my method was just always being online and if everyone 126 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.480 else logs off, I'm your only option if you wanted 127 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:55.360 a girl creator, because there wasn't as many as there 128 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.680 is now. So that actually really helped me out is 129 00:04:58.759 --> 00:04:59.959 the fact that it is a male dup. 130 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:00.639 It's space. 131 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:02.360 Okay, So you kind of were just like, I'm here, 132 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:03.959 I'm not going anywhere, and mm. 133 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:05.639 Hm take me as it is, turn me off, I'm 134 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:06.360 still gonna be here. 135 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:07.000 Yeah. 136 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:07.800 How hard is. 137 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:09.920 That to kind of like dedicate your kind of like 138 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.439 whole life to stream. Do you feel at first in 139 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.959 the beginning, did you feel kind of nervous that people 140 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.120 would be in receptive of what you're doing or did 141 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:20.040 you just kind of not care and was like we're 142 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:21.000 just gonna figure it out. 143 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:21.519 Uh. 144 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:23.439 I didn't really care, cause for the most part, I 145 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:25.160 kind of did what I would do anyway if I 146 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:28.240 wasn't streaming, so like making costumes for playing games or 147 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:29.639 painting or whatever. 148 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:30.240 It was. 149 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:32.319 So it's like if I can do that with the 150 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:34.519 camera on and someone's gonna pay me to do it, 151 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:35.279 sounds good to me. 152 00:05:35.680 --> 00:05:38.720 So like pushing boundaries. Do you like to do that? Yeah, 153 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:41.000 I did like to do stream the hot to meta. 154 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:43.639 I think that was a huge year growth, So let's 155 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:44.360 talk about that. 156 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:46.279 But that's kind of like what your biggest pushback was 157 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.839 and kind of like making you this big splash no 158 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:51.160 pun intended of like how you you know, made your 159 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:53.160 mark on what was being the loophole of what we 160 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:57.240 spoke of earlier, how you could get away with displaying 161 00:05:57.240 --> 00:06:00.240 your assets of how yeah they are yes exact. So 162 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.639 how did that whole like idea come about? How did 163 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:05.000 you even figure out the loophole thing? And like, again 164 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:07.079 we talked about nervousness a little bit about the pushback 165 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.279 in the career part, but how did that whole like 166 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:10.759 thing can happen? 167 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:16.560 Well? I think part of it was luck because COVID, 168 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.240 I think everyone kind of grew who was an influencer 169 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:23.560 at the time. But I started doing pool streams outside 170 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:27.560 I think the year before COVID and I think it 171 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:28.480 was twenty twenty. 172 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.199 I saw some girls do hot tub. 173 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:33.920 Streams, you know, specifically, not just the pool so it's 174 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:37.120 much more like intimate setting, and I thought, well, that 175 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.560 would be a good idea. But the problem is, you know, 176 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.279 they were in Cali with there's nice weather, but text 177 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:44.279 as you have humidity and the mosquitoes. 178 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:47.079 And cicadas so loud. So I decided, I'm gonna bring. 179 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:51.040 That hot up, are you. Yeah, They're in this nice, nice, 180 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:52.800 little like outdoor set and like, I'm gonna bring the 181 00:06:52.839 --> 00:06:54.879 hot tub inside. And that's kind of what started the 182 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:57.399 wave of girls bringing their hot tub indoors. They're in 183 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:58.160 control of the lighting. 184 00:06:58.240 --> 00:06:59.920 Yeah, they see you can even. 185 00:06:59.759 --> 00:07:04.079 Have the d Yeah, And so that kind of became 186 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:05.319 the new thing. 187 00:07:05.319 --> 00:07:06.000 I guess. 188 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:09.079 And that was great until they decided to make a 189 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:12.600 section just for hot tum without with like hardly any 190 00:07:12.639 --> 00:07:13.759 discovery and business. 191 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:15.759 Where is my cut? No advertisers? 192 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:17.959 Yeah, so that kind of was the death of the 193 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:20.240 Hot to Metal was moving it into its own section, 194 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:22.759 kind of shadow band from the rest of the site. Mmmm. 195 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.279 They're just always trying to shit, you know, be shady 196 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:28.319 somehow or another. Yeah, can't win too much, non win 197 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:29.000 too much. 198 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:31.920 So you took this career of yours and you made 199 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.040 into something that's you know, people look up to, and 200 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:36.879 you made into not only that, but a. 201 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:39.639 Business outside of your creators. Can we talk a little 202 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:40.199 bit more about that. 203 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.160 What kind of business endeavors did you kind of go 204 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.079 after after making such a lucrative amount of money with 205 00:07:46.160 --> 00:07:46.800 being a creator. 206 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.600 Well, I have to really have like my own business 207 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:51.959 that I run directly, but I do invest in a 208 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:53.040 lot of businesses. 209 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:53.480 That's a business. 210 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:55.360 Yeah, Like, you know, investments is a big thing that 211 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.079 a lot of people don't tap into. I think like 212 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:00.000 our financial literacy in the US is not as big 213 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:02.800 because it should be. Yeah, you know, there's plans everywhere there. 214 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:06.120 We're not in Texas anymore, honey, but you'll twill it. 215 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:08.040 True. 216 00:08:08.959 --> 00:08:11.879 Yeah, Like I started investing in gas stations. 217 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:13.399 They get a lot of press at the time. 218 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.560 It's just a good, you know, little investment that kicks 219 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:20.199 back money and is also very advantagous to taxes cause 220 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:23.680 you can take the total amount spent on the buildings 221 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:25.839 and take it from your total income for the year, 222 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.079 and now you have like a new lower income on paper, 223 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:29.759 so they can have less taxes to pay. 224 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:33.799 Essentially, So, were you always a like a business business 225 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:36.759 savvy woman or did you have somebody kind of guide 226 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:38.240 you into like a business manager? 227 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:40.240 Like how did you cause most people they're. 228 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:42.159 Making all this money we're at young ages whatever, and 229 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:44.360 some people just blow it, and I think that that's 230 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.480 really cool to see, Like the creators now is like 231 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:48.840 invest your money. Maybe you may not know, but like 232 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.559 thousand the times to know where It's like, if we 233 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:52.559 didn't know something, we should research it, we should learn 234 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.759 about it, we should find people that are not jops. 235 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:57.240 Specifically said help us, cause I feel like, you know, 236 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:00.279 asking for help. Sometimes people think like, oh, this ego 237 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:02.320 where it's like, honestly, that's the strongest thing I think 238 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:04.080 someone can do, is like I can't do this, so 239 00:09:04.679 --> 00:09:05.320 help me do this. 240 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:05.960 Right. 241 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:10.240 I consider myself very lucky because I was not financially 242 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:13.639 savvy at all before it became a streamer. But I 243 00:09:13.679 --> 00:09:17.000 actually got married before I became a streamer too, And 244 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.120 my husband actually does have this background in finance, okay, 245 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.679 but even his background wasn't nearly as like a complex 246 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.240 as we've built our like financial investments together. 247 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:33.080 Now the base us it was of like educated at all. 248 00:09:33.399 --> 00:09:35.120 Right, Yeah, so we've had a lot of help from 249 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:37.720 accountants and you know, just like friends who in this 250 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:38.559 in the industry. 251 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:39.080 Because when you. 252 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.159 Say gone by, like you own a gas station, that's 253 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:42.519 like you were like how do you do that? 254 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:43.039 You know what I mean? 255 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.360 But it's cool to like know the ins and outs 256 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:47.039 of like what you said, like you put this towards 257 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:48.039 this and this is what you. 258 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:48.720 Can kind of get. 259 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:50.960 Yeah, it's kind of an uncharted space. 260 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:53.600 I guess having all this like money randomly come up 261 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.639 from the internet still a new phenomenon. So I think 262 00:09:55.639 --> 00:09:58.080 most creators don't really know quite what to do with 263 00:09:58.120 --> 00:09:59.440 it either, for sure. 264 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:01.279 And that's I think also the most important about like 265 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:04.080 the literacy part, is making your money. 266 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:05.519 Make it's like money. 267 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.679 Off itself instead of coming you know, because sometimes we 268 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:09.879 don't know what you know, these creator spaces of how 269 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:12.279 long that's going to last and right what that's going 270 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.240 to do. And that's like the important part of investing 271 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:17.200 not only in your brand, but in the life beyond brand. 272 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:19.840 Definitely, and especially for girls, because we kind of have 273 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:23.799 like what society uses an expiration date, you know, like 274 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:25.919 where there's gonna be less people who are attracted to 275 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.320 you over time, and if attraction is like the main 276 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.480 frunts of your working and you've got to invest your. 277 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:32.919 Money, because I think that's a myth that I feel 278 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:34.960 like that is also I feel it's a misconception. 279 00:10:35.080 --> 00:10:36.559 I do believe it to a point. 280 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:39.000 But I also feel like, look at all the markets 281 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.200 and like things of everyone, like there's a Golden Bachelor now, 282 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:42.759 like there's others. 283 00:10:42.799 --> 00:10:44.039 There's a lane for everybody. 284 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.799 Where there's things like just because you get old doesn't 285 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:48.960 mean you're not attractive. So it depends on where you 286 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.279 want that you know, to go, or to like your 287 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.679 legacy compares, or like where you're going next. But I 288 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:57.360 feel like I've always like, hey, when people trying to 289 00:10:57.360 --> 00:10:59.200 protect it're like, well, when you're getting older, your fans 290 00:10:59.200 --> 00:10:59.399 are not. 291 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:00.639 I'm like, no, there's let me. 292 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:02.679 There's still gonna know what I think booty that care 293 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.000 is gonna shake, maybe not as much and maybe not, 294 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:08.559 but it's like, you know, at this point, I'm having 295 00:11:08.600 --> 00:11:10.159 a statue of the ask them where they can just 296 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.320 go a praise to the booty. 297 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:15.440 It doesn't matter what we look like anymore. AI is 298 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:17.960 getting better, you know, better and better. I love it. 299 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.440 I want to know what is a misconception about streaming. 300 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:25.159 We talked about the business. 301 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:27.600 It talks about how successful and like things growing up 302 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:30.600 to like the boundaries you push, like the doors that 303 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:33.840 you've opened for other creators, which as yourself, what. 304 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:36.879 Is a misconception that you think is talked about most 305 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:40.759 about streamers. I think that it's easy to become a streamer. 306 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:44.120 Yes, I think it's easy to press live, but I 307 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:46.679 think it's hard to grow an audience. M I think 308 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.000 the job itself, if you describe it to somebody, sounds 309 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.519 really easy and it's really easy to do, but to 310 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:53.840 be able to make a career out of it is 311 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:54.600 the hard part. 312 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:55.960 Okay, that's fair. 313 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:59.080 I feel like, again, even with the dedication of like 314 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:00.879 some of the streamer for you, I feel like it's 315 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.519 so much even though like I have sex on camera, 316 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:05.600 you being a streamer, I feel like it's more kind 317 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:08.440 of almost a basive because you're streaming majority of your 318 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:10.919 day and it takes a lot of like that out 319 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:11.480 of like. 320 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:13.799 What you're doing. So you bring them along, which. 321 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:15.159 I feel like is the cool part because you kind 322 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.440 of like go through life with your fans whose are 323 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:20.799 like your streaming community. So I think like it's like 324 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:22.639 when people think like, oh, it's just so easy just 325 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:24.759 turn the camera on, where it's like no, like you 326 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:25.960 may have real life moments. 327 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.279 You might have a bad day, like you're human. 328 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:29.879 There's all these things whatever, but you kind of have 329 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:32.639 to like not necessarily push it aside. And I don't 330 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:34.840 know exactly if you show that to you know, those things, 331 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:36.720 but you're humans. So it's like I think that that 332 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:39.279 part is I think maybe the hardest part where it 333 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.600 would be like it's that's why it's not easy, because 334 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:43.879 it's like you're giving a personal in. 335 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:47.360 Yeah, that's a big problem that streamers typically face. Is 336 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.440 it the more they're live, the more risky it is 337 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.639 to be canceled over something they said taking out of 338 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:53.519 context or had a bad day or whatever. 339 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:54.519 How do you handle that? 340 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:56.879 Do you do you give the rawness or do you 341 00:12:56.960 --> 00:12:58.279 kind of hold back and be kind of a little 342 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:00.320 bit more peacy because of this cancel could sure that 343 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:01.559 we live in these days. 344 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:04.600 I figure I'm already not brand friendly, so I don't hold. 345 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:07.440 Bad Okay, yeah, oh okay, you know it's like I 346 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.559 know that you're you're not from Texas, but you live 347 00:13:09.559 --> 00:13:10.080 in Texas? 348 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:14.399 Correct? Both both? Okay? What part of Texas? Houston? Okay? 349 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:16.679 I was like you have that Texas like drawback where 350 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.200 it's like we have the we give a fuck, but 351 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.039 we don't give a fuck because it's like it take 352 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:21.480 me as. 353 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:24.320 I am or why where I'm at? Yeah, I think exactly. 354 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.720 So how do you deal with burnout? 355 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.879 Because being a creator, like a Sweet said, you're streaming constantly, 356 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:32.240 you have this like kind of fan base to kind 357 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.759 of like that's just you're like have to do it, 358 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:37.399 but it becomes almost like you have to do it. 359 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:39.120 It's like your life and you're streaming. How do you 360 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:39.840 deal with burnout? 361 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.639 I think burnout for people is often just like a 362 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.799 bad perspective on reality, at least in the social media space. 363 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:48.080 Like I understand the office space, but when people are 364 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:50.879 like able to just travel, like live stream and like 365 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:53.159 do whatever they want to essentially play games or whatever, 366 00:13:53.200 --> 00:13:54.879 and they're like, oh, I'm so burnt out, it's like 367 00:13:55.039 --> 00:13:58.399 they've forgotten what reality is like for most of the world, 368 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.559 who still has to go to a job, they hate it. 369 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:02.519 It's like that you have the opportunity to do anything 370 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:04.919 you want and get paid for it. You're essentially getting 371 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:07.720 paid time off every day. The fact that anyone would 372 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:10.639 even utter I'm burned out from that type of lifestyle 373 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.399 is crazy to me. So I personally don't really have 374 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.000 burnout there are days where it's like, uh, I don't 375 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:17.200 feel good, I don't want to be on camera. But 376 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:18.960 I wouldn't call that burnout. I would just call that 377 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:19.919 not feeling well. 378 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:23.559 So acts, So would you say that, you know, you're 379 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:26.559 kind of I feel like it's not a and I 380 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.480 get that what you're saying, I feel like is there. 381 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:30.240 How do you, in a sense, I guess you don't 382 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:32.480 have a burnout? How do you stay grounded within the 383 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:34.759 work that you do to continue to enjoy it like 384 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:35.000 you do. 385 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.919 I think it's again just a perspective thing, knowing that 386 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.799 there is an expiration date at some point, if not 387 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:45.679 to like it's online in general, just how lucrative it is, like, 388 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:47.679 for instance, I have a kick deal right now, right 389 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.039 even so, like my time that I spend live stream 390 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.840 will not always be worth in like the dollar amount 391 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:54.559 that it is when you contract. 392 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:56.399 Okay, yeah nice. 393 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.480 How do you handle relationships with fans the fact that 394 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:02.279 you're streaming all the time. Have you ever had an 395 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.639 interaction with fans that have kind of maybe crossed some 396 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:07.120 lines because you do give so much. 397 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:10.679 Yeah, there's definitely some parasocials out there who think that 398 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.759 they know you even though that they they don't at all, 399 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.639 right y, I think some people forget that when they're 400 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.080 watching a stream, the streamer can't see you. It's not 401 00:15:19.120 --> 00:15:22.919