Speaker 1: Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.
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Speaker 1: came out red, covered in hair from head to toe
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Speaker 5: US readers, politicians, teachers, lecturists.
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Speaker 4: is being run by unbelievably sick people.
Speaker 6: That chasm between what we're told he's going on, I'm
Speaker 6: what he's really going on.
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Speaker 4: like we all know what's what happened to them now,
Speaker 4: and no one's.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to another episode of Nephelum Death Squad. Uh.
Speaker 4: We have a very exciting episode. I know. I say
Speaker 4: it's exciting because.
Speaker 2: I know that Top and I are personally excited.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I know that a lot of our fans have
Speaker 2: probably heard us bring this up ad nausea at this point.
Speaker 2: I think we might have mentioned this gentleman maybe in
Speaker 2: the past five episodes alone. And I know that you
Speaker 2: guys were talking off air about how much his work
Speaker 2: has this interesting overlay over the things that we're discovering
Speaker 2: Top and I as we go through this show. So
Speaker 2: I am David Lee Corbo aka the Raven. This is
Speaker 2: Top Lobster, and we are finally joined today by mister
Speaker 2: Jerry Marzinski. Mister Marzinski, would you mind introducing yourself a
Speaker 2: little bit to the audience and letting them know where
Speaker 2: they could find your work.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm a retired licensed psychotherapist with over thirty five
Speaker 6: years of experience and working with thought processes of the
Speaker 6: psychotic and criminally insane and some of the most volatile
Speaker 6: psychiatric institutions in the nation. I've held positions as second
Speaker 6: lieutenant in the Arizona Civil Air Patrol, assistant scout master.
Speaker 6: My formal academic training comprised as a BA in Psychology
Speaker 6: from Temple University, master's degree in rehab Counseling from the
Speaker 6: University of Georgia, in two years of PhD studying a
Speaker 6: psychology program. I'm the co author of an amazing journey
Speaker 6: into the Psychotic mind, breaking The Spell of the Ivory Tower.
Speaker 6: And I've been on the front lines of mental health
Speaker 6: for a long time and I've seen, I've seen what's
Speaker 6: going on, and it's it's a friggin joke what they're doing.
Speaker 6: This drug infused a merry go round of the mental
Speaker 6: health system that doesn't cure anybody or anything. It's making
Speaker 6: these the psychiatric mafia and big pharma billions of dollars
Speaker 6: a year. It's crazy what they're doing.
Speaker 5: Now, Jerry, just to jump straight into it, you think
Speaker 5: they're doing this for money or other like more nefarious purposes,
Speaker 5: because obviously your work kind of goes from scientific to
Speaker 5: like right into supernatural in the occult and a better
Speaker 5: question for you. Was that a shock for you when
Speaker 5: that first happened, because I can imagine most people who
Speaker 5: are going into the like the education field, especially to
Speaker 5: become a doctor. You're very like literary what's in this book?
Speaker 5: Taking that very serious? My wife is an r N,
Speaker 5: so like I know how that kind of mind operates.
Speaker 5: And then to be confronted with what you were confronted with,
Speaker 5: what's that?
Speaker 7: What's that like for you?
Speaker 6: Oh? When I realized that the voices that schizophrenics were
Speaker 6: hearing were actually entities, it was a major shock. You know,
Speaker 6: I actually shut down for a day when when when
Speaker 6: that happened, and and then being threatened by the voices
Speaker 6: was a it was another another shock because I didn't
Speaker 6: want to believe that these voices were hall you know,
Speaker 6: were entities. Now, when I when I first came out
Speaker 6: of graduate school, like everybody else, I believe that these
Speaker 6: things were hallucinations because that's what the book said, you know,
Speaker 6: all the psychology books, all the Yeah, the voices schizophrenics
Speaker 6: are or hallucination. When I got onto the front lines,
Speaker 6: things took a very different turn. When I when I
Speaker 6: could see what's happening with my own eyes, you know,
Speaker 6: and when I first started at Central State Hospital, which
Speaker 6: was the largest psychiatric hospital on the planet at the time.
Speaker 6: There were ten thousand patients there when I got there,
Speaker 6: it was like a sea of mental illness. But for
Speaker 6: somebody who was an adrenaline junkie and interested in abnormal psychology,
Speaker 6: it was for me, it was like a candy store,
Speaker 6: you know, a strange candy store.
Speaker 5: So you can see, I can see the type of
Speaker 5: person you are now, Jerry, because my wife, immediately after graduating,
Speaker 5: she went into the er and described it much like
Speaker 5: you describe it. But I'm like, I asked her, why
Speaker 5: do you keep going back there? And it's kind of
Speaker 5: like I did. There's something about it. They like the
Speaker 5: people that work there and retire from there. She no
Speaker 5: longer doesn't, thank god, But there's something about that that
Speaker 5: draws a certain personality type.
Speaker 7: So I'm noting that.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I spent ten years working in the big
Speaker 6: hospital ers in the last ten years in my formal
Speaker 6: work before I went into my own private practice, and
Speaker 6: it wasn't boring. It wasn't ever boring. There was always
Speaker 6: something happening. So for an adrenaline junkie, it's one of
Speaker 6: the places to be. But when I got to this
Speaker 6: large state hospital, you know, I noticed that the voices
Speaker 6: that these schizophrenics were hearing weren't what I thought they were.
Speaker 6: I mean when they say they're hallucinations, and that's all
Speaker 6: they said in the psyche books. Oh yeah, they're hallucinations.
Speaker 6: And you think of a hallucination is something that's crazy
Speaker 6: and random and makes no sense, you know, it's just
Speaker 6: all over the place. No, it wasn't like that at all.
Speaker 6: When I first noticed was that these schizophrenics were carrying
Speaker 6: on long, involved, coherent conversations with their voices. They were
Speaker 6: conversations and arguments, and they weren't at all random or
Speaker 6: like word salad. I mean, they were perfectly coherent. So
Speaker 6: what it sounded like was if you're listening to somebody
Speaker 6: talk on the telephone and you only can hear one
Speaker 6: side of the conversation. So I could hear these guys
Speaker 6: conversing with these voices and responding to them, but I
Speaker 6: couldn't hear what the voices were saying, So that struck
Speaker 6: me as odd. Another thing that struck me as odd
Speaker 6: was nobody in that entire hospital was interested in what
Speaker 6: the voices were telling. These people nobody. I mean, here's hundreds,
Speaker 6: many hundreds of staff there. I mean the place sprawled
Speaker 6: over I think it was over three thousand acres they
Speaker 6: had assigned to that hospital. There were over two hundred buildings.
Speaker 6: And I never saw anybody curious about what those voices
Speaker 6: were telling these people except me. And I'd asked all
Speaker 6: the psychiatrists I worked with. I asked psychologists. I said,
Speaker 6: what you know, what are the voices, what are they
Speaker 6: telling these people? And they would just say, well, they're hallucinations,
Speaker 6: which is what they were taught in college. That's where
Speaker 6: they taught in medical school. But they haven't done any
Speaker 6: research on them whatsoever. It's just like the arrogant psychiatric
Speaker 6: mafia and big pharma have you know, like the high
Speaker 6: priests of ancient Egypt have just come out and go,
Speaker 6: we hereby declare that the voices are hallucinations, because we
Speaker 6: say so without animal research into it whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Is there a fear from the clinical side of things
Speaker 2: that communicating with or not necessarily communicating with but entertaining
Speaker 2: the die.
Speaker 4: What's the dialogue about?
Speaker 2: What are they communicating about that that somehow feeds into
Speaker 2: what they would consider an illusion? Uh And that it
Speaker 2: could further progress or further spiral the situation. So it's
Speaker 2: really almost a liability aspect where I guess the practitioner
Speaker 2: wouldn't want to be liable for, you know, increasing the delusions,
Speaker 2: and so you know, by that virtue, then these are
Speaker 2: just that doesn't matter what they're saying, what the conversations
Speaker 2: are about, their strictly hallucinations and let's continue forward.
Speaker 6: That's exactly right, and that's what the moron say that
Speaker 6: that's not the truth of the matter at all. Okay,
Speaker 6: And I got called up twice by psychiatrists for asking
Speaker 6: patients to tell me what their voices were telling. And
Speaker 6: that's exactly what I was told the first one. The
Speaker 6: voices don't like people asking about them, and so they
Speaker 6: will steer people away from from those that are asking
Speaker 6: about them, or they will act up because they don't
Speaker 6: want to. They want to be seen as part of
Speaker 6: the person's psyche, as part of their their thoughts stream.
Speaker 6: And that's what's so dangerous about them, because they sound
Speaker 6: just like the person's the thousands of thoughts that run
Speaker 6: through a person's head every day, except the content is
Speaker 6: very different, you know, the intention is very different. But
Speaker 6: if it's schizophrenic. I've I've talked to several of them.
Speaker 6: They ask they're curious about what the voices are as
Speaker 6: I was, you know, and they would ask the voices,
Speaker 6: what are you? Who are you? And the response was
Speaker 6: we are you. They want them to believe that those
Speaker 6: voices that they're hearing are coming from them and belong
Speaker 6: to them. If they believe that, they will turn into
Speaker 6: the voices and be psychotic. You know, it's a very
Speaker 6: dangerous situation once those voices start, because they sound just
Speaker 6: like the thousands of other voices that the person hears.
Speaker 6: Said every day, we all hear a voice in our
Speaker 6: head talking to us all the time, now everybody does.
Speaker 6: The question is never asked who's listening? You're hearing that voice,
Speaker 6: but who's listening to it? And how much of it
Speaker 6: is true? Well, there's another layer when it comes to schizophrenia.
Speaker 6: Those voices sound just like the thousands of voices that
Speaker 6: are running through your head every day. I mean that
Speaker 6: they sound the same. They have access to the person's memory.
Speaker 6: They can pull up every rotten thing that that person's
Speaker 6: ever done and rub it in his face until they
Speaker 6: turn them negative. So what they are they're parasites. They
Speaker 6: have to turn the person emotional state negative before they
Speaker 6: can take the energy. Now that's another thing that psychiatry
Speaker 6: doesn't see either, that there's a one to one correlation
Speaker 6: between these the voices coming and the person's energy being
Speaker 6: drained to nothing. And they don't just hit schizophrenics.
Speaker 5: Are you talking about like physical energy or something like loosh?
Speaker 6: Well loosh, now you can look at it as loose,
Speaker 6: but it turns into physical energy because these guys can't
Speaker 6: even get out of bed. So I've talked to a
Speaker 6: number of them that you know that they've had an
Speaker 6: appointment in the morning and they were so drained after
Speaker 6: a night of being attacked by the voices they couldn't
Speaker 6: even get out of bed. So these things are feeding
Speaker 6: off of these people. And like I said, they don't
Speaker 6: just hit schizophrenics. They they control them more than they
Speaker 6: do most people. But they hit us all. So you know,
Speaker 6: you might have been walking down the sidewalk one day
Speaker 6: and then some guy irritates you or something, and here's
Speaker 6: this thought comes into your mind to beat the crap
Speaker 6: at him, or whack them up the head with a
Speaker 6: baseball bat. Or you might be standing on a bridge
Speaker 6: and you go, I wonder what it would like to
Speaker 6: be the jump? Or why don't you just turn into
Speaker 6: oncoming traffic? Those kind of thoughts, they don't come from you.
Speaker 5: You.
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, Emmanuel Swedenborg says, none of your thoughts
Speaker 6: come from you. You decide what thought you want to
Speaker 6: attend to.
Speaker 5: Let let me propose something to you. There's a cliff
Speaker 5: in California. I believe it's called suicide cliff.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: They found out, well, people would go there, they'd stop
Speaker 5: at this gas station, and people that weren't suicidal, a
Speaker 5: lot of them would just commit suicide. But the engineers
Speaker 5: and scientists or whatever found out that something about the
Speaker 5: h the acoustics, the acoustic resonance of this cove that
Speaker 5: people were in, it would it would draw them like
Speaker 5: it would want it would make them want to commit suicide,
Speaker 5: or at least have these thoughts. Have you ever thought
Speaker 5: about some like just geographical locations, acoustics frequencies that would enhance, uh,
Speaker 5: the ability for these entities to come through fast, or
Speaker 5: perhaps like the really bad ones hang out there, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like why would this be happening?
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I've heard of something similar. They
Speaker 6: called it the dog's suicide bridge. I think it's in
Speaker 6: the UK, you know, where dogs just leap off of
Speaker 6: that bridge to their debts and nobody can explain why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some sort of a we were talking
Speaker 2: to a guest and we got onto the track of
Speaker 2: infrasound and how some animals can emit such a low
Speaker 2: frequency that it actually causes a feeling of dread in
Speaker 2: human beings, and that sort of mirrors this experience when
Speaker 2: people have a maybe like a sleep paralysis experience, there's
Speaker 2: often this sort of vibrational almost an electric buzzing, a
Speaker 2: sensation that's accompanied with a tremendous feeling of dread. And
Speaker 2: so we went down this interesting path about how various
Speaker 2: frequencies can produce different emotional states, but very high dramatic
Speaker 2: emotional states. For example, the fact that you would never
Speaker 2: experience that level of dread that you would in a
Speaker 2: sleep paralysis episode with some sort of you know, shadow
Speaker 2: entity that these people describe. Oftentimes, that feeling of dread
Speaker 2: simply never manifests itself in waking life, in any other situation.
Speaker 2: And so whatever these entities operate through, it often seems
Speaker 2: like they could sort of evoke high level emotional states,
Speaker 2: whether it's rage or sadness or fear right, and you're
Speaker 2: talking about how these things they will put you to
Speaker 2: your lowest and feed off of that energy. There's sort
Speaker 2: of a reciprocal event taking place where they can make
Speaker 2: you feel that way and then they feed off of it,
Speaker 2: and it's a cycle, and then they do this essentially
Speaker 2: until they drain you. But doctor Marzinski, I do want
Speaker 2: to mention to you, and I wanted to get your
Speaker 2: thoughts on it. I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this.
Speaker 2: I talk about it often on my show. My aunt
Speaker 2: is a schizophrenic and multiple personality disorder, and she has
Speaker 2: had a lot of very un canny experiences that I
Speaker 2: think I find maybe the rest of my family is
Speaker 2: uncomfortable talking about sort of things like precognition. She seems
Speaker 2: to have an ability at times, or at least there
Speaker 2: are anecdotal stories where she knows something seemingly like insignificant
Speaker 2: that is about to happen and then does take place.
Speaker 2: And it's never like groundbreaking, you know, but she does
Speaker 2: seem to have like this little uncanny window into future events.
Speaker 2: And like I said, They're never like big tremendous events.
Speaker 2: They're seemingly insignificant, but she does seem to know them.
Speaker 2: Sometimes she also has this experience where she will smell
Speaker 2: a sort of a sulfuric smell, and then this is
Speaker 2: her cue that some entity is around.
Speaker 4: She calls it the devil.
Speaker 2: But the way that she smells it, or the way
Speaker 2: that she describes a scent is often the way that
Speaker 2: other people who have experiences run ins with various entities.
Speaker 2: And we're talking from you know, someone who is sort
Speaker 2: of a victim of like a demonic encounter that they
Speaker 2: find very difficult to explain, but oftentimes it will say
Speaker 2: that it was first caught onto as far as their
Speaker 2: sense is by a smell, a sulfuric smell, something rotten,
Speaker 2: a company with a sulfuric smell, And also people who
Speaker 2: experience cryptids, interestingly.
Speaker 4: Enough, will also describe a very similar smell.
Speaker 2: And my aunt she also has this these events where
Speaker 2: she's been able to find things. For example, like she'd
Speaker 2: be in the care of another aunt of mine, but
Speaker 2: she'd know exactly where to find.
Speaker 4: Sort of gold.
Speaker 2: So if my aunt had stashed away her jewelry for fear,
Speaker 2: that my schizophrenic aunt was going to find it and
Speaker 2: do something. She'd know where to find it, and you know,
Speaker 2: she claimed that it was basically the voices that told her,
Speaker 2: but nobody was willing to really have those conversations with her.
Speaker 2: It was just very short lived. You know, Oh the voices.
Speaker 2: You know, I would overhear it as a child. Oh
Speaker 2: how did she find the gold?
Speaker 4: I thought you hit it? I thought you hit your jewelry.
Speaker 2: She said that the voice has told her where it was,
Speaker 2: and then there's no explanation for that, and people find
Speaker 2: that very uncomfortable. I know in your work, this is
Speaker 2: something that you've come across. Maybe I'm speaking out of
Speaker 2: school here, but I do believe you've described things as
Speaker 2: precognition and also the ability to find things that otherwise
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have been able to. And I wonder maybe
Speaker 2: if you could talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Well, first of all, multiple personality and schizophrenica are
Speaker 6: two very different things. Okay, multiple personality, it's like they
Speaker 6: are actually different objective, different person So one personality could
Speaker 6: be violently allergic to shrimp and another personality and that
Speaker 6: same person could eat shrimp and not be affected. At all.
Speaker 6: I mean, so it's that big of a difference. These
Speaker 6: are individual personalities. Schizophrenia is a different thing.
Speaker 5: Is that like an actual physical reaction to shrimp or
Speaker 5: would it just be a psychosomatic.
Speaker 6: No, No, it would be an actual physical allergic reaction
Speaker 6: to shrimp. One person breaks out and hives one personality,
Speaker 6: the other personality can eat trimp fine, and there's no
Speaker 6: reaction whatsoever in the same body. So it's a totally
Speaker 6: different phenomena than schizophrenia. Schizophrenia that it started out, I mean,
Speaker 6: it means split mind, that's what it means. But it's
Speaker 6: characterized by these entities. These voices that the psychiatric mafia
Speaker 6: insists are hallucination, but they know stuff. I mean, I've
Speaker 6: talked to especially meth addicts, when they run out of myth,
Speaker 6: the voices would tell them where to go and when
Speaker 6: to be there, and some stranger would show up with myth.
Speaker 6: Had one prisoner tell him a watch out for this
Speaker 6: guy over here, he's going to assault you, and a
Speaker 6: day or two later that happened. So they know stuff
Speaker 6: that the person himself doesn't know, and they use that
Speaker 6: to get their claws in the person. Like we'll see
Speaker 6: we can do this for you. And once they get
Speaker 6: your trust, then they got you. You know, they're they're
Speaker 6: feeding off you. They are parasites, and the voices never
Speaker 6: say anything good. It's always bad stuff. It's like, you're
Speaker 6: no good, You're rotten, you're ugly, you're stupid, nobody likes you,
Speaker 6: you're you know, every rotten thing that you could think of.
Speaker 6: Those voices tell these people, so they really bring them
Speaker 6: down in the dumps. And once they once they get
Speaker 6: them down there, then there's a one to one correspondence
Speaker 6: between the voices coming and their energy disappearing. So these
Speaker 6: things are parasites and they feed off of all of us,
Speaker 6: not just schizophrenics. You start thinking a negative thought, you know,
Speaker 6: and you ask yourself, well, where does that come from?
Speaker 6: I mean, where where does your thoughts stream come from?
Speaker 6: It wasn't there when you were born. You know, where
Speaker 6: do thoughts come from? I mean, nobody's ever dug into
Speaker 6: a person's brain and found the thought in there. So
Speaker 6: your brain is like a radio, a radio receiver. It's
Speaker 6: turned to its certain frequency. The schizophrenics are turned to
Speaker 6: a very low frequency, and the voices want to keep
Speaker 6: them there, so even if they try to, you know,
Speaker 6: do these what do they call them? These where you
Speaker 6: repeat a positive phrase or something like that, the voices
Speaker 6: turn it back for me mantra or something like that.
Speaker 6: The voices turn it back down. Okay, so you ask yourself, well,
Speaker 6: where do thoughts come from? That's never addressed by psychiatry
Speaker 6: or psychology. Neither is any spiritual matter. We're all spiritual beings.
Speaker 6: That's completely ignored by psychiatry and psychology. You know, the
Speaker 6: big pharma treats us like biological machines. Those drugs that
Speaker 6: they're dishing out are for the most part, very toxic,
Speaker 6: especially the antipsychotic drugs. They brought your brain out with
Speaker 6: long term use, and they lie about it, you know,
Speaker 6: they they won't tell the patient how dangerous these drugs are.
Speaker 6: Anti psychotic drugs are some of the most dangerous drugs
Speaker 6: used in medicine today. And when they found out.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to interet, but my aunt she would actually
Speaker 2: neglect her medication. So when she was on her medication,
Speaker 2: she you know, you could have a conversation with her,
Speaker 2: but the way she described it was like a sort
Speaker 2: of a dulling effect, almost as if these sy are
Speaker 2: like sedatives. It's like we can't really identify the problem.
Speaker 2: We can't solve it, we can't fix it. And so
Speaker 2: let's dismute, yes, exactly, And so they so negative, Yes,
Speaker 2: and that was so negative for her that she would
Speaker 2: rather have the the the experience of multiple personalities, uh,
Speaker 2: than to be on the on the medication. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it's like a terrible band aid that is not
Speaker 2: at all addressing the actual issue.
Speaker 4: We just sedate them, that's right.
Speaker 6: And and the side effects are awful, they're just god awful.
Speaker 6: And and they don't even tell the person the worst
Speaker 6: of them. You know, they'll they'll tell them, Oh, it'll
Speaker 6: blurry your vision, that there will be sexual dysfunction, you'll
Speaker 6: feel a little, you know, drugged up, you'll be a
Speaker 6: little groggy. Uh, you know the common side effects they'll
Speaker 6: tell the patient, but they won't tell them, Hey, with
Speaker 6: long term use, it's gonna rot out your brain. It's
Speaker 6: gonna write out your central nervous system, it's gonna wrote
Speaker 6: out your peripheral nervous system. They don't leave it. They
Speaker 6: don't put any of that out. They don't tell them
Speaker 6: about the act can and the nervous disorders that it causes.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, at the state hospital and
Speaker 6: some private hospitals, that's all they know to do is
Speaker 6: to drug these people. So when these side effects, these
Speaker 6: these nasty neurological side effects start, they'll give them another
Speaker 6: drug to sedate them more so they're not feeling the
Speaker 6: side effects from the anty psychotics, so that their their
Speaker 6: brain is continually being rotted out. There's permanent neurological damage,
Speaker 6: and they're giving them stuff like, oh, what is a
Speaker 6: kogenan to mask that that that neurological damage. Now these
Speaker 6: people are and they know they're not curing anything. They
Speaker 6: know it. They're not curing anything. They're taught in college
Speaker 6: that this is all there is. You know that these
Speaker 6: drugs are all there is. There's a number of different
Speaker 6: energetic therapies coming out right now that we'll deal with
Speaker 6: most psychological problems that the big pharma and psychiatry and
Speaker 6: psychology don't want you to know about. One of which
Speaker 6: is the mase energy method. You know, it's invented in
Speaker 6: Australia and it will handle most psychological problems and get
Speaker 6: rid of them, cure them in a couple of sessions,
Speaker 6: just like that.
Speaker 7: What exactly is it is it like a frequency machine.
Speaker 6: It's an energetic therapy. So your your thoughts are energetic,
Speaker 6: your your your memory is energetic, your feelings are energetic,
Speaker 6: so your memory is energetic. So it will go in
Speaker 6: there and it will it will defuse the traumas that
Speaker 6: caused these problems. It's great with depression, that's great with neurosis,
Speaker 6: it's great with anxiety, it's great for uh kind of PTSD,
Speaker 6: most common psychological problem. It's having a little bit of
Speaker 6: more trouble with what's schizophrenia because those voices are different entities.
Speaker 6: But it will remove the trauma that they feed off of.
Speaker 6: So even though in a lot of cases it won't
Speaker 6: completely cure schizophrenia, it'll make it a lot better, you know.
Speaker 6: And then once you educate the person as to what's
Speaker 6: actually going on that this isn't a biochemical imbalance as
Speaker 6: the big farm and made up. That was a complete fabrication,
Speaker 6: this biochemical imbalance crap. First, they started off blaming the mothers, say, oh,
Speaker 6: mothers did something wrong and that's why the kids are
Speaker 6: becoming schizophrenics. But everybody could see that the mothers were going, no, no,
Speaker 6: we didn't do anything wrong. Look, I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: we were great parents, and the kid became schizophrenic anyway,
Speaker 6: So what they had to do was boost it up
Speaker 6: into an area where people couldn't see or verify what
Speaker 6: they were saying. So then they started with this genetic garbage.
Speaker 6: Oh it's a genetic disorder, and they're still touting that,
Speaker 6: and even today there's still there's still touting that and
Speaker 6: it's been proved completely wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So skar Barzinski, is there a correlation that's been
Speaker 2: found between childhood trauma and schizophrenia.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a correlation between all kinds of trauma and schizophrenia.
Speaker 6: You know, there's usually with schizophrenics you'll find uh severe physical, emotional, uh,
Speaker 6: psychological abuse, sexual abuse. It's there. I mean, virtually all
Speaker 6: psychological problems are caused by some kind of trauma. You
Speaker 6: can be linked to some kind of trauma and that Mace.
Speaker 6: Mace does great about getting rid of those things. You
Speaker 6: want to know more about it, There's a website is
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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm definitely gonna check that out.
Speaker 7: Let me let me ask this.
Speaker 5: I mean, when I you know, I'm like, I'm more
Speaker 5: of a political guy, or at least I was, and
Speaker 5: then I started to figure out the kind of like
Speaker 5: energy energy stuff and this, you know, conspiracy minded stuff.
Speaker 5: And when I look at like certain events nine to
Speaker 5: eleven COVID a huge one. These are trauma events and
Speaker 5: in my opinion, most likely done on purpose to feed
Speaker 5: on our.
Speaker 6: War.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh that's a huge one.
Speaker 6: All the worst that they constantly keep running.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just demor I called it demoralization before, but
Speaker 5: now I'm thinking just straight trauma. And it kind of
Speaker 5: does make sense if if you are let's say, like
Speaker 5: a lower vibrational entity that is in charge of this
Speaker 5: large apparatus called the government, and you kind of wanted
Speaker 5: to produce more ways for other entities to get into
Speaker 5: your general population of three hundred million plus people. And
Speaker 5: then you combine that with anti psychotics, which is what
Speaker 5: you were just talking about, and it's I feel like
Speaker 5: that creates the world we have today where you're taking
Speaker 5: like half the people off the grid. Then the other
Speaker 5: half you're trying to drive them to insanity, you know,
Speaker 5: the ones that you haven't doled down. Then there's a
Speaker 5: small remnant of us who are kind of seeing through
Speaker 5: the bullshit and still have our minds about us. You know,
Speaker 5: as of right now, man, this is it doesn't look
Speaker 5: very good.
Speaker 6: No, that's exactly right. Matter of fact, we've identified some
Speaker 6: twenty three patterns that these voices run. Okay, Now, the
Speaker 6: deal is, if they're running fixed, repeatable, you know, non
Speaker 6: variable patterns, they can't be hallucinations, which which the psychiatric
Speaker 6: mafia is insisting, with no research into the matter whatsoever.
Speaker 6: They're just declaring that these things are hallucinations. And what's
Speaker 6: in interesting is that these patterns that these psychotic voices
Speaker 6: run are the same patterns that we're hearing over the
Speaker 6: television every day from the mainstream media right now, and
Speaker 6: I'll run through some of them for you. Negativity. The
Speaker 6: voices are consistently, persistently negative. They don't say anything good.
Speaker 6: You turn on the television and it's constantly bad news.
Speaker 6: This person died, that person died, people shot, these many
Speaker 6: people died in the wards, all bad news being broadcast
Speaker 6: constantly all the time. The voices are anti religious. They
Speaker 6: can't stand the twenty third song, they can't stand the
Speaker 6: person going to church, they can't stand them reading the Bible.
Speaker 6: They can't stand them talking to preachers or being anywhere
Speaker 6: around the priest. What hallucination would do that? You know,
Speaker 6: why aren't they if they're a hallucination, why aren't they
Speaker 6: all over the place. Why aren't some positive? Why aren't
Speaker 6: some negative? Why aren't some neutral? Why aren't they all
Speaker 6: over the place like regular hallucinations. They're not. They're consistently negative.
Speaker 6: And you can see this for yourself. Anybody who works
Speaker 6: with these people, anybody who has a schizophrenic family member,
Speaker 6: can see this for themselves. You can see these things
Speaker 6: for yourself. They foster and create negative emotion. They don't
Speaker 6: ever say anything good to the person. It's all bad stuff.
Speaker 6: They're creating that negative emotion because that's what they feed
Speaker 6: off of, and then their energy level drops once these
Speaker 6: are voices attack them. There's a one to one correlation
Speaker 6: between being attacked by these voices and their energy being drained.
Speaker 6: So they're parasites, and they're not just hitting schizophrenics, they're
Speaker 6: hitting all of us. Know, any negative thoughts you have
Speaker 6: about yourself or anybody else is put into your head
Speaker 6: by the dark side. Your brain is actually like a
Speaker 6: radio receiver. You decide what show you want to listen to,
Speaker 6: you know, and if you're tuned to the negative stuff,
Speaker 6: that's what you're going to get. So these things are parasites,
Speaker 6: and people who are schizophrenics need to understand that these
Speaker 6: voices are feeding off of them. They're not there to
Speaker 6: help them, you know, They're there to drive them crazy
Speaker 6: and suck their energy. They get louder when ignored. I
Speaker 6: remember at the State Hospital one day I was in
Speaker 6: with a psychiatrist and patient. The patient was complaining about
Speaker 6: the voices, and the psychiatrist said, Oh, they're just hallucinations,
Speaker 6: just ignore them. So I called that guy in a
Speaker 6: week later, and you know, I didn't know anything much
Speaker 6: back then, and I said, how's that working for you?
Speaker 6: You know, when you ignore the voices, what happens? He said,
Speaker 6: it's not working at all. They get louder. And that's
Speaker 6: a consistent thing. You can talk to all of them.
Speaker 6: If they try to ignore the voices, the voices get louder.
Speaker 6: They will not be ignored. Okay, they foster self destructive
Speaker 6: or self defeating behavior. They're always putting these people up
Speaker 6: to sabotaging themselves, to getting themselves in trouble, to getting
Speaker 6: themselves thrown in jail or prison once they get them
Speaker 6: thrown in prison. And the prisons have become the state
Speaker 6: hospitals now since they closed all the state hospitals, so
Speaker 6: they're putting all the schizophrenics in there now, and they're
Speaker 6: being abused and threatened and terrorized by some of these
Speaker 6: other gangster inmates. And then when they're sentence it's up,
Speaker 6: they release them with two weeks of medicine and fifty
Speaker 6: bucks and said, okay, you're free. They're in much worse
Speaker 6: shape than they ever went in there on. So the
Speaker 6: prisons are generating worse and worst criminals. You know. I've
Speaker 6: seen them release people that I knew would kill somebody
Speaker 6: in six months, but their sentence was up. They're done.
Speaker 6: And rehabilitation in the prisons is a joke. It used
Speaker 6: to exist back, you know, ten or twenty years ago.
Speaker 6: They used to have rehabilitation programs. Now they have virtually nothing.
Speaker 6: And the private prisons are even worse. They're just holding tanks.
Speaker 6: They don't do anything, they don't do any kind of treatment,
Speaker 6: they don't do any kind of groups. They're just frigging
Speaker 6: stagnant holding tanks for these people, you know, and they
Speaker 6: pay off the legislators and go, oh yeah, we can
Speaker 6: keep your people in prison for cheaper than anybody else
Speaker 6: because they don't do anything for them. They're just sitting there,
Speaker 6: rotting away. So the voices demand the attention of the victim.
Speaker 6: You know, they maneuver for increased control over the victims,
Speaker 6: just like the government does more and more control all
Speaker 6: the time. They gaslight their victims. Government's good at that.
Speaker 6: They manipulate perception. Government's good at that. Now, one thing
Speaker 6: they do have, they have complete access to the schizophrenic's memory.
Speaker 6: Because these are energetic entities, they can go in there
Speaker 6: and they can pull up every rotten thing that person
Speaker 6: ever did and start rubbing it in their faces. You
Speaker 6: remember when you did this, Remember when you heard this?
Speaker 6: I remember when you did that, And that generates negative
Speaker 6: emotional energy. Also, they've ound stuff like the person forgot
Speaker 6: about ten years ago. They brought it up.
Speaker 2: So doctor Marzinski does this this correlation I find really interesting,
Speaker 2: And I'm glad you brought this up again because I
Speaker 2: had written it down you mentioned it earlier. Right, them
Speaker 2: having access to the memories and sort of throwing past
Speaker 2: trespasses in the victim's face, right as a manipulation tool,
Speaker 2: and so it's I guess it demoralizes them, it gives them,
Speaker 2: you know what, it's going to produce more negative energy,
Speaker 2: there by more control over the victim. And this reminds
Speaker 2: me very much of you know, we could just look
Speaker 2: to the Exorcist film where uh, and there's plenty of them.
Speaker 2: They've made this movie ad nauseum over and over again,
Speaker 2: and there's always the the uh. The person who's been
Speaker 2: possessed by this entity has somehow the ability to recall
Speaker 2: something about Let's say, for example, the priest who is
Speaker 2: praying over them, trying to exercise the demon. Suddenly this
Speaker 2: person turns to them and knows a thing that they've
Speaker 2: done in the past and wields it against them in
Speaker 2: this moment.
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. And I recently had.
Speaker 2: A guest on my other show and he was talking
Speaker 2: about he made a church in Alberta, Canada, and there's
Speaker 2: a really big drug issue out there and he was
Speaker 2: trying to help, you know, remedy this. And one of
Speaker 2: the things that he would see is these people who
Speaker 2: were on drugs. From his perspective, he felt like they
Speaker 2: were possessed. And you know, but once again, this line
Speaker 2: right between mental illness and demonic possession, and the way
Speaker 2: that he's describing them to me is very accusatory. So
Speaker 2: even at the lower stages of really rampant drug use,
Speaker 2: often a user will turn very negatively towards anybody who
Speaker 2: would interact with them and use sort of accusatory language.
Speaker 2: And at its highest stages, where it really drug abuse
Speaker 2: really looks like high level mental illness really looks like
Speaker 2: demonic possession, there is a lot of this, uh, sort
Speaker 2: of mirrored interaction between all three of them, where the
Speaker 2: common thread is this accusatory nature. And it got me
Speaker 2: thinking about I'm not a biblical theologian by any means,
Speaker 2: but I just have.
Speaker 5: To say, Satan is the accuser.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, so boom through through all of these things,
Speaker 2: that's the common line, Satan the accuser. And you can
Speaker 2: see this behavior across all of these And then that
Speaker 2: right there, obviously is something that human beings have been
Speaker 2: struggling with since our inception. Uh it's you know, it's
Speaker 2: in our book and uh and to me that jumps
Speaker 2: out as a really important piece of this puzzle when
Speaker 2: you start to ask the question why is this it's
Speaker 2: a common threat does that resonate with you.
Speaker 6: At all, that resonates right one hundred percent. And the
Speaker 6: worst drug out there is myth. You know, I've seen
Speaker 6: more prisoners go psychotic on myth than any other drug
Speaker 6: out there. I mean, it's a very dangerous drug. The
Speaker 6: prisoners called it the devil's drug. When I was working
Speaker 6: psych in the prison system, they'd start off and, you know,
Speaker 6: feel great, they felt like Superman, they didn't sleep, they
Speaker 6: got a lot done, felt wonderful, and then when they crashed,
Speaker 6: it was awful. And then they started hearing the voices,
Speaker 6: you know, telling them rotten things about themselves, and they go, oh,
Speaker 6: that's just a loucination. It'll go away. And when they
Speaker 6: came down, it did, and it might have gone away,
Speaker 6: and maybe another twenty times or thirty times or something,
Speaker 6: and then one day it didn't. They were psychotic, as
Speaker 6: psychotic as anybody in the psychiatric hospital. It makes people
Speaker 6: crazy and they stay crazy. It doesn't go away, you know.
Speaker 6: So if they start hearing voices and it doesn't go
Speaker 6: away within six months, there's a very good chance they're
Speaker 6: going to be psychotic for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 6: Meth is a very, very dangerous drugg You know, it
Speaker 6: opens you up to these these negative entities like no
Speaker 6: other drug out there. And it's coming across the border,
Speaker 6: you know, blessed by our government at this time. By
Speaker 6: the time you know, it's just it's just it's just
Speaker 6: coming by the truckload over the border. It tells you
Speaker 6: something about our government at the present time. Yeah, Rittlin.
Speaker 6: You know they're putting they're putting more and more kids
Speaker 6: on Ritlin. I mean they got they got tens of
Speaker 6: thousands of kids on Ritland now and maybe even more.
Speaker 6: I have the statistics somewhere, but uh, you know, and
Speaker 6: they move on, they move on from that. I asked
Speaker 6: prisoners who were put on Rittland as kids, Well, you
Speaker 6: were feeling as good as you you had in a
Speaker 6: long time. You're able to concentrate. Why did you keep
Speaker 6: taking more and more myths? Their answer was, I don't know. No,
Speaker 6: they they've they've they're drugging kids at an enormous rate
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 2: Timarzinski, was that something that you saw with meth users
Speaker 2: was that accusatory nature? Because I also feel like there's
Speaker 2: something that happens when people get addicted to really hard drugs,
Speaker 2: like meth and things like that, where anybody who seeks
Speaker 2: to help them is somehow turned into the enemy. And
Speaker 2: so when I think of like the accusatory nature, I
Speaker 2: also think of that. Was that something that you saw
Speaker 2: particularly with myth That's what.
Speaker 6: I saw with meths and I saw with schizophrenia. You know,
Speaker 6: the voices are telling the person that anybody who's trying
Speaker 6: to help them is their enemy, you know. So that's
Speaker 6: that's particularly difficult for moms and dads who have schizophrenic
Speaker 6: kids because they don't realize that. They don't for the
Speaker 6: most part, they don't realize that those voices are entities
Speaker 6: trying to take over their kid. And the worst thing
Speaker 6: they can do is allow them to sit in their
Speaker 6: bedrooms by themselves listening to the voices. Yeah, but the
Speaker 6: voices make it so miserable for the parents that a
Speaker 6: lot of times they just give up and say, yeah,
Speaker 6: go sit in your room and leave us alone.
Speaker 7: It's an epidemic. Jerry.
Speaker 5: Let me let me tell you a story about a
Speaker 5: guy that we just spoke to, maybe even last episode.
Speaker 7: I don't remember.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 5: He went on a journey similar to what you're talking about,
Speaker 5: using a drug and looking for answers from the other side.
Speaker 7: The drug was mushrooms.
Speaker 5: But what the story turns out that he told us
Speaker 5: is that he did make contact with entities from the
Speaker 5: other side. But they've been giving him advice, and it's
Speaker 5: been exactly the opposite of the tree that you just described.
Speaker 5: With the schizophrenic entities. They're giving him advice, they're helping
Speaker 5: him with diet, they're helping him with life stuff. They're saying,
Speaker 5: don't work this job. Go here, And he came on.
Speaker 5: He's fully convinced that he's communicating with him. And another
Speaker 5: overlap there was he was taking a lot of mushrooms
Speaker 5: to contact these things. Whenever they decided they would give
Speaker 5: him a nudge, Hey, we want to talk, get the mushrooms. Now,
Speaker 5: he says he doesn't have to anymore.
Speaker 2: He got to I would like to also toss in there.
Speaker 2: They were pushing him, oddly enough, this is the only
Speaker 2: time I've ever heard this, pushing him towards Jesus and
Speaker 2: the church. And now he's an avid church goer, praise
Speaker 2: on a regular basis, has an incredibly healthy lifestyle, has
Speaker 2: improved by almost all metrics, and I've just never heard
Speaker 2: any any of these entities that you would contact through
Speaker 2: drug use. And I'm certainly not advocating it for anybody,
Speaker 2: and I don't believe he did either. He even said
Speaker 2: that specifically, he said, don't do this because it's you know,
Speaker 2: intense and horrifying in many ways, I suppose. But I've
Speaker 2: never heard anything point the user towards Christ, towards the church.
Speaker 4: That was very interesting.
Speaker 6: Well, I've heard some of these voices do that. Now,
Speaker 6: this is the first time I've ever heard of a
Speaker 6: positive outcome, because what they do in most cases, they'll
Speaker 6: start out positive, you know, like I'm a spirit, I
Speaker 6: can I know stuff that you don't. I can help
Speaker 6: you out, I can tell you where you lost, that
Speaker 6: kind of stuff. And once they hooked them, then they
Speaker 6: turn on them, you know. So they want to get
Speaker 6: them hooked and believing that they're this is a positive
Speaker 6: entity that can help them out from the other side,
Speaker 6: like their guardian angel or Christ or something like that.
Speaker 6: Once they get them believing in them, then they turn
Speaker 6: on them and ravage them. So this is a this
Speaker 6: is the only case, what you're telling me, It's the
Speaker 6: only case I've ever heard where something like that came
Speaker 6: through except for me that sess material or something like that.
Speaker 6: It's very very rare. Usually it's the other way around
Speaker 6: where they'll tell them, oh, I'm Christ or I'm a
Speaker 6: positive spirit, I can help you out, and then they
Speaker 6: turn on them. So you've got to be very careful
Speaker 6: with that because they want to get your trust, and
Speaker 6: once you let them in, then you've given them permission
Speaker 6: and then you can't get rid of it. It's very difficult.
Speaker 5: That's a hermetic principle. Would you in your studies, like,
Speaker 5: what's the because there has to be some kind of solution, right,
Speaker 5: People aren't just left out to dry, and medication is
Speaker 5: not one of them.
Speaker 7: What have you seen?
Speaker 6: Well, the first thing that people need to realize is
Speaker 6: that these aren't hallucinations and that these toxic drugs to
Speaker 6: psychiatrists are feeding these people aren't getting rid of anything.
Speaker 6: They're they're just you know, like you guys said, they're
Speaker 6: they're major tranquilizers. All they do is dumb them down.
Speaker 6: They don't cure anything, and neither do there any depressants
Speaker 6: or any anxiety age. They're all they're doing is drugging
Speaker 6: the brain. So the first thing they need to understand
Speaker 6: is that these things are entities. They are not hallucinations
Speaker 6: that they are not the person, that the voices they
Speaker 6: hear in their head do not belong to them. They
Speaker 6: come from these entities, and they're marked by usually negative
Speaker 6: stuff about the person themselves or people around them, and
Speaker 6: their intent is not the same as the intent of
Speaker 6: the person themselves. That's the first thing that has to
Speaker 6: be done. And the mainstream media, the big pharma they're
Speaker 6: making over four billion dollars a year on antipsychotic drugs.
Speaker 6: They don't want this information out. They're not trying to
Speaker 6: help anybody. They're not trying to cure anybody. They're trying
Speaker 6: to sell drugs. That's all they want. They could care
Speaker 6: less whether they work or not. And they've got the
Speaker 6: entire and race under their thumb. The entire Western world
Speaker 6: is believing their bull craft. Oh yeah, we're the only
Speaker 6: only people who can treat schizophrena. We're the mental health
Speaker 6: specialist of the world, you know. And you look at
Speaker 6: you look at their their you would think that schizophrenics
Speaker 6: have a suicide rate of three to five times higher
Speaker 6: than the norm population. You would expect that from schizophrenics.
Speaker 6: Psychiatrists also have that same number of suicides they're they're
Speaker 6: virtually identical to that of the schizophrenics, three to five
Speaker 6: times out of of the normal population. These are the
Speaker 6: people who are running the mental health system in the
Speaker 6: United States, not only the United States, all over the
Speaker 6: western world. They're curing nothing.
Speaker 5: They're they're also they're also making the most contact with
Speaker 5: these entities. If this is radiation, you know, and someone
Speaker 5: was like just green glowing and the doctors are sitting
Speaker 5: there next to him, it's like, you're going to get that, dude,
Speaker 5: especially if you don't know what you're dealing in, which
Speaker 5: is like one of the most important things in life
Speaker 5: in general. This is this whole thing is very spiritual.
Speaker 5: If you don't know that it's spiritual, then you're going
Speaker 5: to be like, I don't know trust the plan with Q,
Speaker 5: or you're gonna be like, I'm gonna go over here
Speaker 5: and cut my dick off. Because people said, so you
Speaker 5: got no, you're flying blind, and most doctors are.
Speaker 6: It's bah, that's exactly right, exact, and that's why doctors,
Speaker 6: especially psychiatrists, are attacked by their patients more than virtually
Speaker 6: any other doctors. And I remember seeing that when I
Speaker 6: got to Central State hospital psychiatrists were always getting slugged.
Speaker 6: You know, it was more than psych nurses, It was
Speaker 6: more than psychologists, counselors. Their assault rate was virtually identical
Speaker 6: to that of attendants who are working twenty four hours
Speaker 6: a day on the wards with these psychotic people, you know,
Speaker 6: and they were I think they were a little bit
Speaker 6: afraid of these people. So they didn't want you irritating
Speaker 6: them at all because you couldn't ever predict what they
Speaker 6: were going to do, So they didn't want anybody asking
Speaker 6: questions that would irritate the voices. So look at you
Speaker 6: look at the overall. So here's psychiatry, the psychiatric mafia,
Speaker 6: and big pharma saying we're the only people that can
Speaker 6: treat mental illness. We're the experts. You look at what
Speaker 6: they're doing. I mean, in the last year, there was
Speaker 6: forty nine thousand, two hundred people in the United States
Speaker 6: committed suicide in two thousand and two twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6: That's almost fifty thousand people killed themselves in the United
Speaker 6: States alone. And this is with more anti psychotic and
Speaker 6: psychiatric drugs than have ever existed on the planet in
Speaker 6: the history of mankind. And this is happening year after
Speaker 6: year after year after year. So what's the what's the
Speaker 6: report card on these guys? You know, I'd give them
Speaker 6: an f You know, the CDC reports one hundred and
Speaker 6: thirty two people in the US kill themselves every day,
Speaker 6: with more psychiatric drugs on the planet than ever before ever.
Speaker 6: You know, So only fifty fifty thousand people died into
Speaker 6: Vietnam War that lasted ten years, and you got fifty
Speaker 6: almost fifty thousand people killing themselves every year, year after
Speaker 6: year after year, taking these friggin antidepressant drugs that don't
Speaker 6: work worth a crap and make them feel like crap.
Speaker 6: The MAS energy method could handle this, they could, They
Speaker 6: could fix these people, but they won't. They won't promote it. Yeah,
Speaker 6: between two thousand and twenty eighteen, the suicide rates increased
Speaker 6: thirty seven percent. They're going up and up and up
Speaker 6: every year. They're going up, and according to the CDC,
Speaker 6: the US suicide rates have reached the highest level since
Speaker 6: World War Two. And this is with more psychiatrists and
Speaker 6: psychologists being in existence than ever before. You know, does
Speaker 6: this look like it constitutes an effective mental health system?
Speaker 6: It's garbage. It's a drug fuel drug merrygo round that
Speaker 6: just goes round and round and round. I've seen it
Speaker 6: in the private psychiatric hospitals. I've seen it in the
Speaker 6: state hospitals. I've seen it in the mental health centers.
Speaker 6: They bring these people in, they milk them for all
Speaker 6: the insurance they got, They fill them full of these
Speaker 6: toxic psych drugs with nasty side effects. They release them.
Speaker 6: Six months later, they go off these drugs, they can't
Speaker 6: stand them anymore, they go psychotic again. They go back
Speaker 6: to the hospital, and the merrygo round goes around again,
Speaker 6: fleecing them for you know, eight to ten thousand dollars
Speaker 6: every time it spins. And then they complain about the
Speaker 6: medical costs in the US being out of control. I
Speaker 6: would give the psychiatrists and this western mental health system
Speaker 6: and f a solid F minus. They're they're worthless, so
Speaker 6: they're more than worthless.
Speaker 5: See I disagree, Jerry. I'd give them an A plus
Speaker 5: because if you're looking at something like this, it doesn't
Speaker 5: appear like like you said, the correlation between psychologists, mental
Speaker 5: health psychologists and suicide is on like a consistent level
Speaker 5: spiking up together. I was like, Yeah, if I wanted
Speaker 5: this to look this way I would keep building this
Speaker 5: medical system if I there's no At this point, there's
Speaker 5: so much evidence, like we'll talk about the COVID vaccine
Speaker 5: or whatever.
Speaker 7: There's so much evidence.
Speaker 5: Where it's like it's clearly dangerous, clearly bad, but they
Speaker 5: keep pushing it, almost as if the desired outcome is
Speaker 5: you know what they're at. So, yeah, a plus for
Speaker 5: these guys for doing whatever evil shit that they're doing.
Speaker 2: For executing an effective plan, what a wonderful medical aspects
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 6: Yeah, an effect of delea Terius plan to destroy the
Speaker 6: human race. They get an eight pause for that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're drugging down.
Speaker 6: The entire population of the Western world.
Speaker 4: I mean, the everybody's on SSRIs.
Speaker 6: That's right, and that don't work. They're making again, at
Speaker 6: fourteen billion dollars a year selling those, and fourteen billion
Speaker 6: for anti psychotic drugs. We're talking billion, not million billion.
Speaker 2: And then when you take out therise, it's actually causing
Speaker 2: people to have psy psychotic events.
Speaker 7: Man, guys, the Nazis won World War two. This is
Speaker 7: the exact World War Two.
Speaker 5: They're in contact with some kind of entities and they're
Speaker 5: actually in control of this government that's doing this that's
Speaker 5: the only way that any of this shit makes sense.
Speaker 7: Otherwise there the government hates you.
Speaker 2: There's an aspect of this that I really want to
Speaker 2: talk about, which is the fact that this entire time,
Speaker 2: schizophrenia and diseases that are are you know, mental health
Speaker 2: diseases that are like it, are often described as hereditary,
Speaker 2: and that would need to be completely revamped through this scope.
Speaker 2: When I was younger, I explained to you that my
Speaker 2: aunt has these issues. And I actually was in her
Speaker 2: presence one day. I was very young. I was a
Speaker 2: toddler and she was This is before I think she
Speaker 2: was fully diagnosed, and we would just kind of thought, like,
Speaker 2: you know, she's a little bit off. She had a
Speaker 2: weird request yet she asked for me to grab her
Speaker 2: the silverware drawer. So I go to grab her the
Speaker 2: silverware drawer. I'm maybe five, and strange request. I managed
Speaker 2: to pull it out of the drawer, you know, the
Speaker 2: entire thing, and I'm walking down the hallway with it
Speaker 2: and I suddenly hear a voice. I hear a woman's voice,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like it doesn't come from my ears.
Speaker 2: I knew this even as a child. I didn't hear
Speaker 2: it with my ears, but I heard it very loud
Speaker 2: and clear, just within my own head, but it was
Speaker 2: distinguishable as not my own voice.
Speaker 4: This was a woman's voice.
Speaker 2: She was monotone, not angry, not happy, none of that.
Speaker 2: And she told me as very matter of factly, that
Speaker 2: I was going to drop the drawer, and suddenly everything
Speaker 2: became sort of distorted and like I got vertigo. I
Speaker 2: would say, yeah, like vertigo, and I dropped the drawer
Speaker 2: and the noise of the drawer snapped me out of it,
Speaker 2: and my aunt was furious, and it was a whole thing.
Speaker 2: But because of that event, I was worried for my
Speaker 2: entire life that I was going to be schizophrenic. And
Speaker 2: I became aware peripherally of this idea that there is
Speaker 2: sort of an age marker twenty six to twenty nine
Speaker 2: or something like that. If it doesn't manifest itself by
Speaker 2: then you're good. So honestly, I didn't talk about it
Speaker 2: for a long time until I got over that hump,
Speaker 2: and you know, nothing ever happened.
Speaker 4: Since everything's good. I'm now thirty three years old.
Speaker 2: But hereditary is not the way that we should be
Speaker 2: looking at this situation.
Speaker 6: It's not that they haven't found any evidence of herreditor. Well,
Speaker 6: what they have to something called familiar spirits to run
Speaker 6: in the family. Okay, so they the schizophrenic creates the
Speaker 6: conditions in the child or family member for these entities
Speaker 6: to move in. You know, there is no genetic marker
Speaker 6: for these things. That's been disproven. There is no biochemical imbalance,
Speaker 6: which is what they're still teaching in the universities. I mean,
Speaker 6: psychiatrists are still graduating thinking that schizophrenics due to a
Speaker 6: biochemical imbalance in the brain that was made up in
Speaker 6: the in the seventies, I think by Eli Lilly when
Speaker 6: they came out with prose. They needed something to explain
Speaker 6: why they're anti such or their antidepressant drug had an effect,
Speaker 6: so they go, well, it must be some kind of
Speaker 6: chemical something. So they made up this chemical imbalance and
Speaker 6: they're still selling it today even though it's been disproven
Speaker 6: over and over.
Speaker 4: The same actual studying.
Speaker 2: Right, there's no like in order to prove that there's
Speaker 2: a chemical and balance of the brain, you would almost
Speaker 2: need to have a sample of a brain, and I
Speaker 2: would imagine, I mean, you know, I'm clearly no chemist
Speaker 2: or biologists, but you would need to do something on
Speaker 2: a physical level to determine what the normal levels of
Speaker 2: you know, cortisults or and there's been no studies that
Speaker 2: were conducted like that that showed any.
Speaker 6: And that's one of the first Yeah, that's one of
Speaker 6: the first things I noticed when I went to work
Speaker 6: at the State hospital. They never gave any kind of
Speaker 6: test to determine what was out of balance or by
Speaker 6: how much ever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, if there's a biochemical balance, how
Speaker 6: come they're not given some kind of lab work. Why
Speaker 6: not some kind of EEG or EKG or some kind
Speaker 6: of tests to determine what chemicals are out of balance
Speaker 6: by how much? And they're still not doing it, even
Speaker 6: though they'll tell you it's a chemical imbalance. You go
Speaker 6: to your psychiatry, you ask them, how do you know
Speaker 6: it's a chemical balance? What's out of balance by how much?
Speaker 6: They have no idea. I mean, it's just like throwing
Speaker 6: a dartboard. Well, we'll start with this drug and then
Speaker 6: we'll see how that does, and if that doesn't work,
Speaker 6: we'll try another one. We'll try another one. They'll just
Speaker 6: go around the whole circle of drugs until they find
Speaker 6: one that seems to work. The best. They have no
Speaker 6: idea what the chemical balance so the brain actually is.
Speaker 7: They don't know, they don't know anything.
Speaker 5: It's incommon bull crap. They did this to my wife.
Speaker 5: She uh, she had she had to get some shot.
Speaker 5: I forgot what it was, uh for a virus that
Speaker 5: she's already had to work in a medical setting and
Speaker 5: this is.
Speaker 7: Just vaccine stuff.
Speaker 5: And she goes, well, I've actually had this virus, so
Speaker 5: I probably have tighters to it. Can you check my
Speaker 5: tighters before you just jab me up with whatever? And
Speaker 5: they're like, the fuck are you talking about? Just take
Speaker 5: this shot, like there's not even a thought. And they
Speaker 5: couldn't measure this very easily with a blood test, so
Speaker 5: something else is a little more obscure from the brain.
Speaker 5: They're like, we're not gonna do that shit, just like whatever.
Speaker 2: When I was when I was a kid, I was
Speaker 2: diagnosed with ADHD. This is how they diagnosed me. They
Speaker 2: brought me into an office at the therapist whatever it was.
Speaker 2: They sat down with me and my mother. I'm like, maybe.
Speaker 4: Dude, this is unbelievable. They looked at me and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: checks out.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sitting there with my mom and the therapist
Speaker 2: or the psychologist.
Speaker 4: I'm not too sure which one actually oversees this.
Speaker 2: Hands me a packet of math problems, and I think
Speaker 2: I was maybe like twelve or eleven, and he hands
Speaker 2: me a packet of math problems, sits me down, tells
Speaker 2: me to complete them to the best of my abilities.
Speaker 2: While that's happening, he's discussing me and my performance in
Speaker 2: school with my mother in front of me, which is
Speaker 2: very distracting. So I'm listening to what they're talking about,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying my best to fill out my inability
Speaker 2: to complete the packet to whatever standard that they expected
Speaker 2: me to be able to complete. It was enough for
Speaker 2: them to put me on adderall. And so for my
Speaker 2: I think I would have been thirteen years old, that's
Speaker 2: eighth grade. For my eighth grade experience, I was on
Speaker 2: adderall for a majority of that year based off of
Speaker 2: just anecdotal stories about my inability to focus in class
Speaker 2: and then my inability to finish a math packet in
Speaker 2: a timely fashion while they talked about me in front
Speaker 2: of me.
Speaker 4: That was how I died and then essentially put me
Speaker 4: on meth.
Speaker 5: Jerry, is this applicable like to if we're to create
Speaker 5: another Nuremberg trial. Like I don't want to implicate you
Speaker 5: in it, but like, man, there's so many people guilty
Speaker 5: of just that story right there is baffling.
Speaker 7: They're like, hey, kid, we're going to ruin your.
Speaker 5: Life if you don't do these math problems within this
Speaker 5: certain amount of time, and then they just go ahead
Speaker 5: and do it.
Speaker 6: Let me, let me tell you how bad it actually is.
Speaker 6: And these are old stats. These are very old stuts. God,
Speaker 6: these are from twenty seventeen. It's much higher right now.
Speaker 6: In twenty seventeen, more than seven point two million kids
Speaker 6: have been put on psychiatric drugs. Okay more than it's
Speaker 6: like six hundred and twenty over six hundred and twenty
Speaker 6: two thousand that these children are under the age of five,
Speaker 6: under the age of five on these major psychiatric drugs.
Speaker 6: Over eighty thousand are on ADHD drugs, which leads to
Speaker 6: meth in a lot of cases. Over thirty eight thousand
Speaker 6: of these kids under the age of five are on
Speaker 6: antidepressant drugs. Here's the side effects of antidepressant drugs. Nausea,
Speaker 6: weight gain, trouble, sleeping, dry mouth, blurb, vision, dizziness, anxiety, headache, diarrhea, constipation,
Speaker 6: sexual problems, fatigue, tremors, increase, swelling, lower alcohol content, bleeding,
Speaker 6: lower sodium levels, vomiting, restlessness, muscle cramps, and seizures. And
Speaker 6: they're putting these kids on these antipsychotic on these antidepressant drugs,
Speaker 6: and you want, does this help anything?
Speaker 2: Does are the maybe these effects that I experienced, these
Speaker 2: side effects that I experienced, I would imagine that they
Speaker 2: line up with meth. So what I experienced three things
Speaker 2: definitively was dramatic weight loss, loss of appetite, and increased irritability.
Speaker 2: And so that year I got into an incredible amount
Speaker 2: of fights. I actually had to go to the Scared
Speaker 2: Strap program in order to graduate.
Speaker 4: From middle school into high school.
Speaker 2: And to me, that sounds like I imagine methaddicts are
Speaker 2: pretty irritable, and I also see them getting very thin,
Speaker 2: and they don't seem to be focused on eating very much.
Speaker 6: No, So you know what, what's somebody who really has ADHD?
Speaker 6: You give them Writtlunder admiral and they fall asleep. It's
Speaker 6: the exact opposite. So you were misdiagnosed and they kept
Speaker 6: you on an amphetamine as a kid for that month
Speaker 6: of time. So get the amount of kids that are
Speaker 6: on anti psychotic drugs over eighty five thousand kids or
Speaker 6: on anty psychotic drugs. These and drugs I was telling
Speaker 6: you're about to destroy the person's brain. So they're rotting
Speaker 6: out the brains of little.
Speaker 7: Kid A seventeen.
Speaker 6: That's in twenty seventeen, and it's much higher.
Speaker 7: Now, imagine right after COVID that spike Jesus.
Speaker 6: Christ over three hundred and eighty nine thousand any anxiety
Speaker 6: drugs which are addicted. These are kids, don't these people
Speaker 6: have no morals whatsoever. I mean, it's incredible with this.
Speaker 2: The root of this is to get children to adhere
Speaker 2: to a failing public schooling system. Right, this school system
Speaker 2: is broken, The general public schooling system across the US
Speaker 2: is broken in so many different ways.
Speaker 4: Children are not finding it to be engaging.
Speaker 2: It's not fruitful, They're not they don't want to be there. Right,
Speaker 2: This is essentially many children describe it as prison. Right,
Speaker 2: this is a pseudo prison system. And because your child
Speaker 2: will not bend to the rules and adhere to the
Speaker 2: system properly, then you go to a medical profession you know,
Speaker 2: who says put your kid on myth.
Speaker 5: It's almost like one government institutional system that is a
Speaker 5: failure or a complete success feeds the other. Like in
Speaker 5: the education system, we can talk all day about what's
Speaker 5: wrong with it. I homeschool my kids because I don't
Speaker 5: fuck with that stuff. But it's like, yeah, it's a
Speaker 5: failure done on purpose to feed the next thing. Almost
Speaker 5: it's it's disgusting, it's it's it's horrific. I mean, they
Speaker 5: want to, they want to, They want you dead, and
Speaker 5: they want to have sex with your children. And they
Speaker 5: think it's funny. Is what constantly comes in my brain
Speaker 5: whenever I think about this.
Speaker 7: They think it's funny.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the duplicity is incredible, especially with their DSM. This
Speaker 6: the Bible of it's the bible for psychology and psychiatry,
Speaker 6: the Diagnostic, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, completely
Speaker 6: made up. All these mental illnesses are completely drained up
Speaker 6: by this. This this panel of psychiatrists that meets every
Speaker 6: couple of years, and they just make these things up.
Speaker 6: They vote them in and they vote them out. You know,
Speaker 6: it's it's a complete work of fiction. There is no
Speaker 6: test to test for any of the mental disorders in
Speaker 6: this group. In this book, and it looks impressive. You
Speaker 6: open it up and here's all these numbers and subcategories,
Speaker 6: and it looks like some scientific thing. It's far from it.
Speaker 6: It's a joke, you know. It's it's a series of
Speaker 6: behaviors that these people have pathologized. So you know, every
Speaker 6: single one of the more than two hundred and ninety
Speaker 6: six psychiatric disorders in the d s M five and
Speaker 6: later have been completely made up. The list of fabricated
Speaker 6: mental disorders appear to be increasing astronomically with each edition
Speaker 6: of the d s M. They make more of them
Speaker 6: all the time. They have to use these these categories
Speaker 6: to charge insurance companies. You know, in nineteen fifty two,
Speaker 6: the DSM list at one hundred and six psychiatric disorders.
Speaker 6: In nineteen eighty there were two hundred and fifty six
Speaker 6: of them. D SM five lists two hundred and ninety seven,
Speaker 6: and they appear to be fabricating more with every edition.
Speaker 6: You know, there are two thirds of the psychiatrists on
Speaker 6: the board that are making these things up are associated
Speaker 6: with big pharma. They're getting kickbacks from big pharma. Not
Speaker 6: one of these two hundred and ninety seven medical disorders
Speaker 6: has a defining lab test or any other kind of
Speaker 6: tests to diagnose what these things are. There are no
Speaker 6: blood tests, there's no lab tests, there's no X rays.
Speaker 6: These are just classes of behaviors that are made up
Speaker 6: by psychiatrists and voted to be a mental disorder.
Speaker 2: I think what's worse right now too, is that talk
Speaker 2: about a layup for the pharmaceutical industry and the medical
Speaker 2: apparatus that surrounds it, is that we are now in
Speaker 2: this epidemic of I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 2: noticed this. I notice it constantly people who are more
Speaker 2: than happy to self diagnose. There's like sort of a
Speaker 2: cult of personality that's developed around relating to or you know,
Speaker 2: claiming to.
Speaker 4: Oh that's like, I.
Speaker 2: Can't tell you TikTok is inundated with This is how
Speaker 2: to know that you have ADHD. Not only that, this
Speaker 2: is what if you have this going on in your
Speaker 2: life or that going on, and it's some of the
Speaker 2: most benign inconsequential things that they'll go this means that
Speaker 2: you have ADHD, or this means that you have that
Speaker 2: people are there is a sort of a reward system,
Speaker 2: a cultural reward system set up around self identifying as
Speaker 2: having a mental illness. This is something that I've noticed,
Speaker 2: like is rampant as somebody who was diagnosed when I
Speaker 2: was a kid.
Speaker 4: I find it horrible to just hear this.
Speaker 2: There's almost a it's almost become a fat well that
Speaker 2: you think an accurate way to put it.
Speaker 7: What's that called?
Speaker 5: Is it Munchhausen syndrome where you have a proxy?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well you have a someone abducted and then eventually
Speaker 5: they start to defend you, they start to defend their
Speaker 5: abductor or abuser.
Speaker 2: It's kind of ring. Yeah, it's a leach. Trolls in
Speaker 2: the chat actually just said it's social contagion. I think
Speaker 2: that is a that's what it's become. These obscure, hard
Speaker 2: to diagnose, no no no tests, no background for it,
Speaker 2: no actual evidence that there's a chemical imbalance. These things
Speaker 2: have become social contagion. And that is I mean, we're
Speaker 2: not only are we one? If it's only US? And
Speaker 2: I believe, where do they film Lord of the Rings?
Speaker 2: Not Australia, there's another place.
Speaker 4: I forget what it is. There's only to New Zealand.
Speaker 2: New Zealand and the US are the only two countries
Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's changed since I learned this.
Speaker 2: That actually advertise for pharmaceuticals, and so this is a
Speaker 2: payday for You're doing the work of these know, pseudo intellectuals,
Speaker 2: these these medical professionals who would be diagnosing. You're doing
Speaker 2: it for them, and you go to them and you go, well,
Speaker 2: now it's not well. I saw a commercial and the
Speaker 2: commercial said, if you experience ABC and D, you may
Speaker 2: be you know, you may have this disease and may
Speaker 2: be eligible for this medication. Now it's not even that.
Speaker 2: Now it's happening for free. Nobody has to pay the advertisers.
Speaker 2: TikTokers are doing it.
Speaker 4: It's on social media.
Speaker 2: These people who aren't even paid by the industry are
Speaker 2: telling you that.
Speaker 7: This s Yeah, they got the whole roll in there.
Speaker 5: Exactly, mister Marzinski, there's a great question here in the chat.
Speaker 7: I just wanted to ask you this.
Speaker 5: They said, thoughts on Christians using the name and authority
Speaker 5: of Jesus to cast out demons. There are many videos
Speaker 5: of this deliverance online and it's compelling. And one of
Speaker 5: the episodes I was listening with Tony Merkle Guy had
Speaker 5: a sleep paralysis entity on him. He like mumbled the
Speaker 5: Lord's Prayer, and he said it was similar to throwing
Speaker 5: a flash a flash bomb in the room of how
Speaker 5: the entity reacted to him, just like exactly right way,
Speaker 5: that's exactly right.
Speaker 6: I've seen it over and over again. They can't stand
Speaker 6: the twenty third song. It's like burning them with a blowtorch,
Speaker 6: you know, they Psalm ninety one. They can't stand. They
Speaker 6: can't stand going to church.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: I did a little study on that once when I
Speaker 6: was in the state hospital. If the voices were very weak,
Speaker 6: the person went to church, they shut up, they didn't
Speaker 6: say anything when they got in the church. If they
Speaker 6: were moderate strength, they would just babble on so the
Speaker 6: person couldn't hear what the preacher was saying. They're very strong,
Speaker 6: they would they would drive them out of the church.
Speaker 6: They jump in there and they would run out. But yeah,
Speaker 6: why would a why would a hallucination be anti religious?
Speaker 6: Why would they react so vehemently to the twenty third song?
Speaker 6: I had one patient to describe. He said that they
Speaker 6: react to the twenty third song like worms thrown on
Speaker 6: a high frying pan. And several several others of them
Speaker 6: have affirmed that they can't stand the twenty third song.
Speaker 6: Why would a hallucination do that? Why would a hallucination
Speaker 6: be consistently negative? Why wouldn't it be random, Why wouldn't
Speaker 6: it be all over the place. I mean, these things,
Speaker 6: if they're running patterns, they can't be hallucinations. That's all
Speaker 6: there is to it. There's a pattern to them. Something
Speaker 6: is holding them to that pattern, something is proliferating that pattern.
Speaker 6: The psychiatry just doesn't want to hear it. Neither does psychology,
Speaker 6: even though you know those those those those traits, those
Speaker 6: aspects that I read you about. That's what they're doing,
Speaker 6: is you know, the voices are energetic entities. What they're
Speaker 6: doing is like if you've got a magnet, a big magnet.
Speaker 6: You can't see that magnetic field. You can't hear it,
Speaker 6: you can't feel it, you can't taste it, you can't
Speaker 6: touch it. For all practical purpose for you, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 6: So you get a bottle of iron filings and you
Speaker 6: put it on top of that magnetic field. Now you
Speaker 6: can see the outline of the magnetic field. Those patterns
Speaker 6: that I was really reading to you, and we only
Speaker 6: read maybe ten of them, there's twenty three or more.
Speaker 6: Those are the iron filings for these schizophrenic entities. That's
Speaker 6: the that's the operational definition, that's what they are, that's
Speaker 6: how they operate. And what psychiatry is trying to do
Speaker 6: is like pouring thorizine on top of a magnetic field
Speaker 6: and expecting it to dissipate that field. You know, it
Speaker 6: doesn't work. These are energetic entities that are not physical.
Speaker 6: They don't respond to physical drugs. What they're doing is
Speaker 6: dumbing down the brain, so the whole body just becomes numb.
Speaker 6: You know. These people are just zombies and it's ridiculous.
Speaker 6: And the number of different mental illnesses that they make
Speaker 6: up every year is is I mean, look at some
Speaker 6: of these malonillness. Mathematics disorder is one of the ones
Speaker 6: that are in. You don't get you don't do mathematics,
Speaker 6: you don't like mathematics. You've got a mathematics disorder. Probably
Speaker 6: one of the first ones that got the worst case
Speaker 6: of that. Caffeine intoxication disorder. You don't you drink too
Speaker 6: much caffeine. Oh, you've got a caffeine intoxication disorder. Kids
Speaker 6: that are fighting with each other they're diagnosed sibling relational disorder,
Speaker 6: sexual disorientation, disturbance, or homosexuality. Another one. Here's Florence syndrome,
Speaker 6: being overwhelmed by the beauty such as Florence Italy. The
Speaker 6: symptoms are feigning in dizziness. The treatment is any depressant drugs.
Speaker 6: Honest to God, this is garbage that these people are
Speaker 6: coming up with. Paris syndrome. Japanese patients experience this visiting Parish.
Speaker 6: So in Bell syndrome. I think they had in there
Speaker 6: for a while. This is you put ten on them
Speaker 6: in a room and you give them a semi complex diagnosis.
Speaker 6: You're not going to get the same diagnosis from them.
Speaker 6: It's completely subjective.
Speaker 5: You said that they're saying homosexuality is a disorder because
Speaker 5: they can't figure out why. What do you think about
Speaker 5: this the whole transgender thing that's happening here, because that
Speaker 5: has a very high suicide rate as well, and it's
Speaker 5: also one of these things where wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 5: most of these people are having a I mean, clearly,
Speaker 5: you're having a second dialogue in your head right.
Speaker 4: Something is telling you, and it's telling you that you're
Speaker 4: not good enough.
Speaker 2: The way that you are right, and so it kind
Speaker 2: of matches that that characteristic there as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you look at that in the normal, average
Speaker 6: day person with their thoughts stream, how many of them
Speaker 6: in our normal thoughts stream are hearing stuff like that?
Speaker 6: You know, oh, you're not good enough. You just that
Speaker 6: thought stream that you're listening to all day long, every
Speaker 6: day he is telling you stuff that you already know.
Speaker 6: It's telling you bad stuff about yourself. But who's the
Speaker 6: one listening? If you think that thought stream is you,
Speaker 6: who's listening to it, it's not you?
Speaker 4: Are you tying?
Speaker 5: The more the more you like feed into it, the
Speaker 5: larger you open this portal for maybe more things to
Speaker 5: come in.
Speaker 7: Or do you think some people.
Speaker 5: Are susceptible to I guess we talked about the familial
Speaker 5: the familial thing where they might be more susceptible to
Speaker 5: the same entities or similar ones that are affecting their
Speaker 5: family or perhaps even psychologists that are around this. They're
Speaker 5: constantly physically around these other people. You might be you know,
Speaker 5: just being spoken to or you know, touched by these things.
Speaker 5: Maybe there's something about the six feet that they were
Speaker 5: doing during COVID, right, like everybody's thinking six feet away,
Speaker 5: keep your demons on that side of the room. Your
Speaker 5: demons on that side of the room.
Speaker 6: Well, that was part of the separation thing, and the
Speaker 6: psychotic voices do the same thing, you know, to stay
Speaker 6: away from me. I'm going to lock myself in my room.
Speaker 6: I don't want anything to do with you. I don't
Speaker 6: want to talk to people, I don't want to do anything.
Speaker 6: So separation is one of the things that they're after.
Speaker 2: Doctor Martin, we're coming to this hour and a half point,
Speaker 2: and I really do think it would be appropriate to
Speaker 2: discuss we discuss Psalms twenty two, right, and how these
Speaker 2: these voice for identities? Oh okay forty three.
Speaker 4: Oh twenty three, that's what I my mistake.
Speaker 2: What have you found in your practice that actually works
Speaker 2: for and I imagine it's not a cure, all right,
Speaker 2: you're not going to find a solution necessarily, but clearly
Speaker 2: the pharmaceutical industry has failed us miserably.
Speaker 4: Is there anything in.
Speaker 2: Your experience that will actually yeah, really right? What is
Speaker 2: it that will alleviate these experiences for these folks?
Speaker 6: What the first one we talked about earlier. They have
Speaker 6: to realize that these what the psychiatric mafia is telling
Speaker 6: them is a lie. You know, then what the pharmaceutical
Speaker 6: industry is telling them is a lie. These voices are
Speaker 6: not hallucinations, their entities, they're parasitic entities. They're putting bad
Speaker 6: thoughts in your head to to create the negative lower
Speaker 6: vibration so they can feed off of you. You know,
Speaker 6: if you had if you had a leech on you, you
Speaker 6: wouldn't just sit there and look at it. You'd want
Speaker 6: to get rid of it. The voices get furious. When
Speaker 6: I was working in the emergency rooms, you know, the
Speaker 6: patients that I felt I could trust, I would tell
Speaker 6: them what the voices were, and that helped them immensely.
Speaker 6: Now then they realize it's not them, it's something outside
Speaker 6: of them. Because the voices, when the prisoners would ask them,
Speaker 6: who are you? What are you? The voice would say,
Speaker 6: we are you. They want you to believe that they
Speaker 6: are you, that they're part of your thoughts stream, that
Speaker 6: you're going nuts, and they are these these these voices
Speaker 6: you hear in your head are actually you. They're not.
Speaker 6: There's got to be a separation that's got to be done. First.
Speaker 6: The second thing to realize is that they're liars. They
Speaker 6: lie about everything. They don't tell the truth about hardly anything.
Speaker 6: You know, ninety eight percent of what they tell people
Speaker 6: are lies. So, Sherry, my co author in this book,
Speaker 6: if you want to know more about this stuff, you
Speaker 6: know how we came to the conclusion, you can go
Speaker 6: get this off Amazon. You can get it off our
Speaker 6: website at Jerrymarzinski dot com. There's a lot more information there.
Speaker 6: But Sherry came up with the idea that, well, she
Speaker 6: cured herself this way is by every time the voice
Speaker 6: has told her some bull crap, she say that's a lie.
Speaker 6: That's a lie. That's a lie, and ninety eight percent
Speaker 6: of the time it was a lie. Okay, So if
Speaker 6: you don't believe what they're saying, they can't get you.
Speaker 6: You know, they have to they have to get you
Speaker 6: to believe what they're saying. Those are two things that
Speaker 6: can be done.
Speaker 7: Jerry, there's a lot more.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry when you're telling your patients this like how
Speaker 5: to how what's not just a success rate? But I
Speaker 5: can imagine this could get really tricky for these people,
Speaker 5: especially if if you're at like a low energy level
Speaker 5: and you're telling something like I'm on to you, there's
Speaker 5: probably gonna be some kind of a fight, and.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there's a fight going on there. There's a
Speaker 6: fight going on all the time because at some level
Speaker 6: the person realizes that they're being pulled in a direction
Speaker 6: they don't want to go. That the only time there
Speaker 6: might not be a fight is the ones who believe.
Speaker 6: So did another study, and what these people believe. The
Speaker 6: ones who believe what psychiatry is telling that these are hallucinations.
Speaker 6: There's nothing they can do about them except take their
Speaker 6: toxic medications. They're the ones that are the worst off.
Speaker 6: They're the ones that are least likely to succeed. Then
Speaker 6: there's a middle group that are going, well, I don't
Speaker 6: know what they are. I'm not sure what they are.
Speaker 6: They haven't made the decision that they're hallucinations, you know.
Speaker 6: And then there's the third group that the group that
Speaker 6: has the most chance to succeed are the ones that
Speaker 6: realize that these voices are not them, they're not who
Speaker 6: they are, they're coming from somewhere else, and that they're
Speaker 6: the enemy. They need to be fought against because what
Speaker 6: they're trying to do is take more and more control
Speaker 6: over the person constantly, and if they can get you
Speaker 6: in prison in a negative environment like that. That's a
Speaker 6: hog truss. The prisons are a hog troughs for these things.
Speaker 6: You can feel it soon as you walk in the door.
Speaker 6: I worked eighteen years in the psychology department of the
Speaker 6: Major's State prison, and you could feel it soon as
Speaker 6: you walk in the gate. It's just like, oh, you know,
Speaker 6: the prisons don't cure anything. They're graduate schools for criminals.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, this is all a
Speaker 2: form of we're experiencing spiritual warfare. And if you're not
Speaker 2: aware that you're engaged in warfare, well, then you cannot
Speaker 2: mount a defense or an offense or anything.
Speaker 4: You're just victimized.
Speaker 2: You're just a sitting duck, right, And so I could
Speaker 2: see that as being the most integral, the most important
Speaker 2: aspect of all this is to switch the mindset over
Speaker 2: from being a passive victim of your own psychology and
Speaker 2: into a much more proactive mode of you're actually being
Speaker 2: influenced by something that's not yourself. And I think that
Speaker 2: that is also it probably if you can accept that
Speaker 2: comes with this really high level of vindication, right, because
Speaker 2: previously you've been told on every level that this is
Speaker 2: just you.
Speaker 4: There is no validity to this.
Speaker 2: This doesn't exist actually except for in your own mind,
Speaker 2: when I imagine for these people, this feels very real. Uh,
Speaker 2: And so it's a level of self betrayal, right to
Speaker 2: have to come to terms with the fact that this
Speaker 2: is just a hallucination. That is incredibly demoralizing, you know,
Speaker 2: because then you now have to operate from a playing
Speaker 2: field of my perspective is incredibly faulty and unreliable. I
Speaker 2: cannot trust my own senses or myself and it's isolating
Speaker 2: and it's demoralizing. And to turn and say, no, something
Speaker 2: is happening to you.
Speaker 4: This is very real.
Speaker 2: You're being influenced by something that does not have your
Speaker 2: best intentions and in fact is uh, you know, waging
Speaker 2: war against you has to give back an incredible amount
Speaker 2: of agency to these Yes, yes, and it does.
Speaker 6: So I've had people contact me if in my private
Speaker 6: practice that you know, they they said, once I found
Speaker 6: out that it wasn't me, that was enough. I could
Speaker 6: handle it from there. Wow, you know, it's it's incredibly
Speaker 6: liberating for them to know that it's not them. Because
Speaker 6: we're taught from the time where kids that every thought
Speaker 6: that comes into your mind belongs to you, and that's
Speaker 6: far from the truth. And Manuel Swedenborg, Christian mystic, says,
Speaker 6: none of your thoughts are yours. They come in either
Speaker 6: from heaven or they come in from hell, and you're
Speaker 6: the ones who chooses which ones you're going to pay
Speaker 6: attention to, and that the schizophrenic voices want to keep
Speaker 6: you tuned to the negative ones. You know, they increase
Speaker 6: your paranoia. They tell you people are after you, that
Speaker 6: you know they can they have Some of them have
Speaker 6: incredible power. You know, they can do bad things. I
Speaker 6: could feel them when I was working in the ear.
Speaker 6: I couldn't see them. I couldn't I couldn't hear them.
Speaker 6: Before I could feel it was like this icky, electrical, cold,
Speaker 6: electrical energy. There was no other feeling like it. You know,
Speaker 6: when they were really mad at me, I could really,
Speaker 6: I could really feel it. It was a little spooky,
Speaker 6: but yeah, they you know, the first time I saw
Speaker 6: they were running these patterns, you know, real quick. So
Speaker 6: what I started doing was throwing monkey wrenches into the patterns.
Speaker 6: When I was working in the in the state prison
Speaker 6: because in the state hospital, I couldn't experiment much because
Speaker 6: if they told the psychiatrists I was threatened. I had
Speaker 6: to keep a real low profile in the prison. I
Speaker 6: had a group of prisoners around me all the time.
Speaker 6: It would tell me in real time what the voices
Speaker 6: were saying, so I could try all kinds of stuff
Speaker 6: with them. So I do all these experiments. I say, here,
Speaker 6: try this, come back in a week and tell me
Speaker 6: what happened. That went on for years, close to eighteen years,
Speaker 6: and I'd find all these things that would mess up
Speaker 6: their patterns. And then one day they started coming in
Speaker 6: and going the voices don't like what you're doing. They
Speaker 6: don't like they don't like you, they don't want us
Speaker 6: come in here. They're telling me not to come here,
Speaker 6: to blow it off, that you're crazy, you're stupid, don't
Speaker 6: come here. And I found that interesting. One after another
Speaker 6: would start saying, the voices don't like you, they don't
Speaker 6: like what you're doing. Then one day one guy turned
Speaker 6: around in the doorway and he said, you realize what
Speaker 6: you're doing is dangerous, don't you and messing with the voices.
Speaker 6: And I just looked at him. I'd never thought about it,
Speaker 6: you know, I've went, well, they're stuck in their heads.
Speaker 6: They can't come out and get me. They're stuck in
Speaker 6: their heads. But I listened to it. I mean I
Speaker 6: kept it. I kept it in the back of my
Speaker 6: mind because it was it was so odd. I mean,
Speaker 6: he just turned around as he was about to leave.
Speaker 6: He looked me straight in the eye and he goes,
Speaker 6: you realize what you're doing is dangerous, don't you? And
Speaker 6: I'm just stared at him, like, no, I hadn't considered that.
Speaker 6: So that same guy came back a few weeks later,
Speaker 6: without a without a pass, knocked on my door in
Speaker 6: the site department. He said, the voices want to talk
Speaker 6: to you. Now. That had never happened before. I'd never
Speaker 6: spoken to them directly. It was always the patient would
Speaker 6: tell me, the voices are telling me this, this is
Speaker 6: what they're saying, and then I'd tell him, well, go
Speaker 6: tell him to stick their head in the toilet or whatever.
Speaker 6: I mean, it would go that way. They never spoke
Speaker 6: to me directly and this guy and I asked, this
Speaker 6: guy said they want to talk to me personally. He said, yeah,
Speaker 6: they want to talk to you personally. And that kind
Speaker 6: of took me aback. This is where my denial system
Speaker 6: completely collapsed. I mean, it was already in shambles because
Speaker 6: I had overwhelming evidence that these things were they were entities,
Speaker 6: they weren't hallucinations. But I kept denying it. I didn't
Speaker 6: want to see it. I didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to I didn't want to go there,
Speaker 6: you know. So I kept pushing it off and pushing
Speaker 6: it off, and oh, it's something with their subconscious. So
Speaker 6: I invited this guy in and we both sat down,
Speaker 6: and I said, Okay, what do they got to say?
Speaker 6: And these words came out of his mouth. You have
Speaker 6: no right to interfere with our way of life. Boom,
Speaker 6: My head just exploded. It was like, so they are entities.
Speaker 6: They aren't something. They they are separate entities in this
Speaker 6: guy's uh And this guy went, that wasn't me.
Speaker 5: That was then, Yeah, wasn't a threat, like you have
Speaker 5: no right? Or are they just like were they complaining?
Speaker 6: Like well, it's it blew my mind. I mean I
Speaker 6: shut down the office. I didn't see anybody the rest
Speaker 6: of that day. It was like my denial system had
Speaker 6: completely collapsed, you know, And it took me a few
Speaker 6: weeks to kind of kind of shake that off. But
Speaker 6: I knew at that point that these were entities. They
Speaker 6: weren't hallucinations, they weren't some figment of the subconscious mind.
Speaker 6: They weren't some you know, made up bull craft. That
Speaker 6: they were actual entities that could think and could speak
Speaker 6: and could could reason to some degree.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: So that didn't that didn't stop, you know, it just
Speaker 6: it just shook me up really bad. I mean, it
Speaker 6: shook me up. Now I'm dealing with entities. But I
Speaker 6: didn't have any map, any cognitive map of where I
Speaker 6: was going, or the territory I was entering into, or
Speaker 6: or what the roadmap was. It was just complete and
Speaker 6: unexplored territory. I had no idea where I was going,
Speaker 6: and there was nobody to talk to. I couldn't talk
Speaker 6: to anybody about any of this stuff. I had to
Speaker 6: keep it to myself. And there were times I felt
Speaker 6: like I was going crazy. So the next big thing
Speaker 6: that happened to the same guy. I was reading a
Speaker 6: book called The Voice of Knowledge by Miguel Ruis. I mean,
Speaker 6: anybody who's interested in mental health ought to read this,
Speaker 6: and it was talking about these things being entities, parasitic entities,
Speaker 6: and I called this, Uh, this guy back in again.
Speaker 6: It was weeks later, and I started, I said, I
Speaker 6: want your opinion of what what this guy had to say.
Speaker 6: And I had a paragraph to kind of highlighted. And
Speaker 6: I did that all the time. I would bring stuff in.
Speaker 6: I would I would ask schizophrenics thousands of questions about everything.
Speaker 6: I mean constantly. I was asking you questions, and you know,
Speaker 6: they trusted me, and and Jerry was getting a lot
Speaker 6: of information.
Speaker 5: He would have been a great podcast. You messed up, man,
Speaker 5: this is a number.
Speaker 6: Well, you know what I do have transcripts. I have
Speaker 6: word to word transcripts. We can do that another time
Speaker 6: to actually take you there. But what happened this time
Speaker 6: was the same guy that that warned me, you know,
Speaker 6: what you're doing is dangerous. I said, I'd like your
Speaker 6: opinion on this. This this shaman is saying these things
Speaker 6: are parasitic entities. You know I didn't I didn't say
Speaker 6: that at the time, but I'd like your opinion this.
Speaker 6: I started reading it, and when it got to the
Speaker 6: point where it actually spoke about these voices being parasitic entities,
Speaker 6: he got glazed over. He sat there just like, uh,
Speaker 6: a zombie. You know, I'd looked up at him, and
Speaker 6: I'm like, what do you think? And he's just staring
Speaker 6: at me. And then I heard this, this this crackle
Speaker 6: over up behind my head. It was like it sounded
Speaker 6: just like a electrical welding torch, you know that kind
Speaker 6: of crackle. Was a loud electrical crackle, and it exploded
Speaker 6: right from behind my head, and I'm like, what you know?
Speaker 6: Was like, what the hell's happening? And then I hear
Speaker 6: it jump to the wall on my right hand side
Speaker 6: and it's crackling loudly, and I'm staring at the wall
Speaker 6: where the noise is coming from. But I was afraid
Speaker 6: to take my vision off of this guy because I
Speaker 6: was thinking he's going to attack, so I pushed my
Speaker 6: chair against the wall just in case he does, so
Speaker 6: I could kick him off. Because all they had was
Speaker 6: female guards in the medical unit at that time, they
Speaker 6: would have been useless in a fight. So I'm switching
Speaker 6: my attention between him and this crackle, and it's going
Speaker 6: up my right hand office wall like crack crack, crack,
Speaker 6: crack crack. I don't see anything, I don't smell anything.
Speaker 6: I just hear it and it's very loud and it's pursued,
Speaker 6: and I'm swinging my attention between him and this crackle.
Speaker 6: It goes up to the top of the ceiling and
Speaker 6: then starts cutting over the ceiling to the left, over
Speaker 6: to the left wall. So I could see the patient
Speaker 6: and I could see that, I could hear the crackling
Speaker 6: at the same time I couldn't see anything. But it
Speaker 6: went on for a good minute or two. I mean,
Speaker 6: it wasn't just brief. It just kept going on and
Speaker 6: on and on. And then it started coming down the
Speaker 6: left hand wall, right for me because I was up
Speaker 6: against the left hand wall, and it jumps into this
Speaker 6: rubber made trash can to my left, and it's crackling
Speaker 6: in that trash can. And I bend over and I
Speaker 6: look and there's nothing in there that they didn't make
Speaker 6: Horder had cleaned it the night before. It's completely empty,
Speaker 6: and this thing, whatever it is, is crackling in there,
Speaker 6: but I don't see anything, and I'm like blown away.
Speaker 6: I'm like, what the frick is going on? And I'm
Speaker 6: like blown away. And then this guy slowly gets up
Speaker 6: and he goes, uh, gotta leave, and I'm like, sees,
Speaker 6: you go get the hell out of here, man, You know,
Speaker 6: like you know, I was just so relieved to see
Speaker 6: him leave the office and walk down the hall. So
Speaker 6: after he'd left, I searched the walls. I mean, is
Speaker 6: there any burn marks? Is there any evidence of what
Speaker 6: I just heard? Of course, I couldn't tell anybody about this,
Speaker 6: you know, there's nobody I think I was a nutcase.
Speaker 6: So after I sect the walls, I didn't see any
Speaker 6: burn marks or any evidence that anything had ever happened.
Speaker 6: I walked out into the hallway and I started looking
Speaker 6: at all the doctors and nurses offices. Nobody was in there.
Speaker 6: There was no cause for this. Yeah, and I'm just
Speaker 6: completely blown away. I mean I didn't see anybody the
Speaker 6: rest of that day. I just closed my door and
Speaker 6: canceled all my appointments, and my mind was just warped.
Speaker 6: And it took me three or four months to get
Speaker 6: enough courage to call this guy back, you know, and
Speaker 6: I eventually did it. He looked good when he came
Speaker 6: through the door. I thought he'd be a wreck. I
Speaker 6: thought he'd be a total wreck, you know. And I
Speaker 6: told him that, I said, you look good. He goes, Now,
Speaker 6: I've been doing what you told me. I haven't gotten
Speaker 6: rid of them, but I'm able to hold them off
Speaker 6: to a certain degree, you know, so they haven't taken over,
Speaker 6: but I haven't gotten rid of them. And I said,
Speaker 6: I said, well, sit down, I want to ask you
Speaker 6: some questions. I said, you remember the last time you
Speaker 6: were in here, did you hear that crackling noise? He goes, yeah,
Speaker 6: I heard it, And he said, but I'm surprised you did.
Speaker 6: And I said, you know, what the blazes was that?
Speaker 6: And he said, that's them. I said them, who the voices?
Speaker 6: He goes, yeah, they were the voices. And I said, well,
Speaker 6: what the dickens were they doing? He said they were
Speaker 6: trying to sceer you off, and I said they did
Speaker 6: one hell of a job of it, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 6: we talked a little bit more, and you know, that's
Speaker 6: the first time I've ever experienced anything like that. And
Speaker 6: I was shooken up because it's like I have cognitive
Speaker 6: map of where this is going and where is this going?
Speaker 6: So I said, you look, you looked really strange when
Speaker 6: you left my office. I mean, you look like a zombie.
Speaker 6: I said, what were the voices telling you at the
Speaker 6: time you got up and left my office? He said,
Speaker 6: they were telling me to go get a shank and
Speaker 6: stick it in your gut, and I'm thinking, oh, he
Speaker 6: wouldn't do that. I've been working with him for six months.
Speaker 6: He wouldn't do anything like that. He's an okay guy,
Speaker 6: although he's a little strange. He wouldn't do that. And
Speaker 6: I said, well, why didn't you do it? And he
Speaker 6: said I couldn't find one, and nobody would give me one.
Speaker 6: They have warped my head, and I'm like, going, where
Speaker 6: is this going? I don't have any map of this territory.
Speaker 6: I don't know what this is. It's like entering. It
Speaker 6: must have been like when Columbus sailed for the New
Speaker 6: World or something. I mean, it was like, where am
Speaker 6: I going? And I couldn't talk to anybody about this.
Speaker 6: There was nobody to ask, there was nobody to talk to. Finally,
Speaker 6: maybe a few years later, that my co author for
Speaker 6: the book. You know, i'd known her for ten years before.
Speaker 6: I started telling her one day about a patient I
Speaker 6: was working with, and she goes, oh, I know all
Speaker 6: about that. I heard voices when I was a young woman.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, I can't believe it. So I started
Speaker 6: hammering her with all kinds of questions that only somebody
Speaker 6: who heard the voices would be able to answer. And
Speaker 6: bam bam bam, one after another, one after another, she
Speaker 6: answered those questions. There was no doubt that she had
Speaker 6: experienced the voices, and she's one of the most spiritual
Speaker 6: people I've ever known. For Sherry Sweeney, my co author,
Speaker 6: and the book An Amazing Journey into the Psychotic Mind.
Speaker 6: And then I had somebody I could finally talk to
Speaker 6: about the voices. She understood, you know. So I couldn't
Speaker 6: talk to my wife because she'd go, oh, no, no,
Speaker 6: the other you shouldn't be poking into thatswer, these psychotic colors,
Speaker 6: and why I don't do that on this band. So
Speaker 6: I couldn't talk to her. I couldn't talk to, you know,
Speaker 6: my psych friends because they didn't believe in that. They
Speaker 6: all believed that the voices were hillartinations. I had nobody
Speaker 6: to talk to for years, and there were times like
Speaker 6: this where I felt I was actually going crazy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: It was very very isolating, very very lonely place to be.
Speaker 5: Wow, well, Jerry, we're coming up on time here, and
Speaker 5: let me just say something to you. I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: obviously younger and way less educated than you. But I
Speaker 5: feel like all that craziness that you felt is going
Speaker 5: to be.
Speaker 7: Obviously, it's going.
Speaker 5: To be fully redeemed, if not already in your eyes,
Speaker 5: as we get to the times of like you know,
Speaker 5: things will be as they were in the days of Noah,
Speaker 5: this sort of stuff that were quickly coming upon this
Speaker 5: time where people are I feel like people are waking
Speaker 5: up and also realizing this from from your point of view.
Speaker 5: They're seeing what you saw twenty thirty years ago. And
Speaker 5: unfortunately it wasn't your time back then, but I feel like,
Speaker 5: unfortunately it might be our time. So thank you for
Speaker 5: like coming on. And this is just a fact. I
Speaker 5: feel like I could talk to you for another five hours.
Speaker 5: But it's what a fascinating subject. Then, like what you're
Speaker 5: doing to kind of enlighten the people listening and just
Speaker 5: anyone who can hear what you're saying of what is
Speaker 5: going on today and how how much is proliferated and
Speaker 5: where we're headed and perhaps a way to battle it,
Speaker 5: you know, I think that's the most important thing.
Speaker 6: Well, people can go to my website at Jerrymarsinski dot com,
Speaker 6: then go to articles. There's things that they can do
Speaker 6: themselves there. Okay, now, don't forget about Mace. I mean,
Speaker 6: psychiatry should be replaced by this Mace energy method. I
Speaker 6: mean it actually works, and it works quickly, and it
Speaker 6: actually solves and gets rid of psychological problems. Again. There's
Speaker 6: the website is www dot Mace energymethod dot com. Backslash
Speaker 6: about backslash. There's Mace therapists there, including my self.
Speaker 5: This will be I'm gonna if you could send me
Speaker 5: the links I think you might have already. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: put this in the in the description to all the
Speaker 5: videos so people can just go and click, because I
Speaker 5: know people are lazy typing stuff in, but this it's important.
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll send it to you.
Speaker 7: Thank you, I appreciate.
Speaker 6: Okay, guys, thanks for thanks for having me on. Maybe
Speaker 6: someday in the future we can we'll go through those
Speaker 6: transcripts so you can actually see what these conversations between
Speaker 6: what what the system considered criminally insane patience and myself
Speaker 6: looked like. It's fascinating stuff.
Speaker 5: I would be great love to Yeah, thank you again,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna I'm gonna let you get out of here.
Speaker 5: Man David anywhere. Anything you want to plug before we go.
Speaker 2: No jes Thank you for your time, doctor Marzinski. This
Speaker 2: was genuinely a pleasure, a dream come true.
Speaker 6: Okay, send me, send me a life when you have it. Guys,
Speaker 6: all right, we'll do.
Speaker 7: Thank you. Have a good day. Guys, we'll see you.
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