WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.639 --> 00:00:09.560 Welcome friends, it's podcast podcasting. Dinho Zaki again, Bryan. 2 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:14.080 They're talking died mom in now bocks on Baby. 3 00:00:20.600 --> 00:00:27.320 Super Game being ambushed. Abort. 4 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:32.359 That's an order they knew, they knew we were coming here. 5 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:34.200 Do you read me? 6 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:36.280 I can understand you're very upset. 7 00:00:36.880 --> 00:00:42.439 You've never seen me very upset. This table was self destructive. 8 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:43.399 Five seconds. 9 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.799 Welcome to a movie film commentary track. My name is 10 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:54.479 Zaki Hassan, and your mission, mister Hall, should you choose 11 00:00:54.520 --> 00:00:57.399 to accept it, is to join me in this conversation. 12 00:00:58.640 --> 00:00:59.320 I accept. 13 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.320 Hey, sweet, oh, I think this thing is gonna explode. 14 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:08.920 Whoa And now cut to us with the you know, 15 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:12.840 Looney Tunes soot on our faces and hair sticking straight up. 16 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:14.400 Oh see, I was going to a darker place. I 17 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:19.359 was like with the wings and a halo, old Zachi. 18 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:25.040 The camera like pans up above the clouds and it's 19 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:27.879 like I should have warned you about that or whatever 20 00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:28.200 you know. 21 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:30.760 And I'm like hitting you with my harp. Yeah, the 22 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:34.000 Captain to Gilligan or Skipper or whatever. 23 00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:41.799 But hey, hey, we are here to talk about Mission Impossible. 24 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:48.079 Yeah, which I recently rewatched before we even really settled 25 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:50.599 on this. It was playing in a theater and I 26 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:52.200 got to catch it again and I was like, man, 27 00:01:52.239 --> 00:01:55.480 this is just such like a cool cracker Jack hest movie. 28 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:58.280 And then when you brought it up, you know, to 29 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:01.120 do as a commentary because we have Final Reckoning coming 30 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:03.200 out in about a week, I was like, Yeah, this 31 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:05.879 is gonna be a great one. 32 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:09.159 The nice thing is, at least for me. I mean, 33 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.080 I had not seen this in a little while, so 34 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:13.800 it did feel somewhat fresh. And I feel like, at 35 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:17.639 this point it is remarkable to be twenty nine years 36 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:21.000 deep into a franchise that is still ongoing as of 37 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:25.599 this recording. Absolute, and let's be real, even if the 38 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:28.879 Reckoning is final to some extent, I don't think it's 39 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:29.919 final final. 40 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:35.360 No, No, I mean it may change in some ways, 41 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:40.039 but this is just such a lucrative franchise for Paramount. 42 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:42.479 To quote Joey Pants, during the making of The Fugitive, 43 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:44.919 they'll pay some other asshole twenty million dollars and have 44 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:46.599 him run really fast. 45 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:50.360 Exactly exactly, and then you know, Cruise will probably become 46 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:54.360 sort of like an elder Statesman figure or something, you know, and. 47 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:56.560 He'll become the Jim Phelps. 48 00:02:56.280 --> 00:02:59.080 Yes, that's right. Yeah, and then he can put chatty. 49 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:06.479 It doesn't do it now? Does it exactly? Exactly? Yeah? 50 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:08.400 But yeah, so we have lots to say about this. 51 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:10.719 I think it's gonna be a fun conversation. Nineteen ninety 52 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:13.599 six is Mission Impossible, directed by Brian de Palmo. Big 53 00:03:13.840 --> 00:03:16.840 big hit when it came out, and obviously the proof 54 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:20.240 of its success is the fact that they are still 55 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:22.240 going three decades later. 56 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:23.159 It is remarkable. 57 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.360 Yeah, so we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, you know, 58 00:03:27.400 --> 00:03:29.560 watch this together. There's only the one cut, So folks, 59 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:31.159 if you're listening and you want to watch along with us, 60 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:32.120 you can certainly do that. 61 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:34.080 You can join us. If not. 62 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:36.919 As always, we'll try to keep the conversation interesting enough. 63 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:43.120 Hopefully that mission Mission it may be the most impossible 64 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:47.919 of all we'll find out. So we're gonna do the 65 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:49.719 usual thing. We will hit plan three. So one two 66 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.400 three plate, Brian, you're ready, I'm ready. Here we go, 67 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:54.560 one two three plate. 68 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:58.759 I feel like I say this every time, but this 69 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:01.680 is one of my favorite movie logos. 70 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.759 The old Paramount, well specifically the nineties Paramount logo. 71 00:04:06.080 --> 00:04:09.800 Yeah, yeah, that's sort of pushing to that beautiful blue 72 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.879 orange sky and then the stars coming in swirling around. 73 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.840 There's just something very cinematic about it. I love now 74 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:16.560 this movie. 75 00:04:16.759 --> 00:04:18.600 I think I mentioned I've not seen it a ton, 76 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:20.879 and yet as soon as the logo came up, I 77 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:25.839 could hear Danny Elfman's music coming in. Oh yeah, yeah, 78 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.319 I think this is one of his best scores. And 79 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:30.680 it was the first time I heard a Danny Elfman 80 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:32.639 score where I was like, that doesn't sound like a 81 00:04:32.680 --> 00:04:33.600 Danny Elfman score. 82 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:37.480 Yeah, because there was that moment. Well, he had pee 83 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.680 Wee and back to School and those definitely are kind 84 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:42.560 of of a piece. But then once he did Batman, 85 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:44.879 it feels like for a couple of years everyone was like, 86 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:47.680 do Batman again. You know, you got dark Man and 87 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.920 Dick Tracy and those are very much in that Batman 88 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:55.759 family or vocabulary. But this I love this score because 89 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:59.079 it does feel like Elfman. But yes, it feels like 90 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:02.560 it's Elfman attacking something else, right. 91 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:08.600 Yeah, Well, the marriage of Danny Elfman with Lalo Schiffrin's 92 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:13.439 iconic Mission Impossible theme is really something special. Like I think, 93 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.160 you know, every movie has some reorchestration of the Mission 94 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:20.560 Impossible theme I think this one might be my favorite 95 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:21.360 out of all of them. 96 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:26.319 Yeah, well, Elfman already leans into a lot of percussion 97 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.839 instruments and things, and the original Mission Impossible theme is 98 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:32.680 very percussion heavy. So yeah, it just feels like a 99 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:33.160 great fit. 100 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.519 Yeah. 101 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:36.720 I mean, I don't know how much we want to 102 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:38.199 get into it just right off the bat, but I 103 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:41.560 mean Ellen Silvestri, yeah, was originally hired to do the 104 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:45.360 score and had done about twenty twenty three minutes or 105 00:05:45.560 --> 00:05:48.480 i'm seeing here of music, but he was eventually taken off. 106 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:51.759 And I have that soundtrack via bootleg. 107 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:57.240 Yeah, I listened to it this morning. Actually, yeah, it's okay. 108 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.839 Right, I had that thought. I was like, I think 109 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:01.279 they made the right choice. 110 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:05.399 Yeah, Like it's fine, but knowing what we wound up with, 111 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:09.800 this feels like it fits much better and adds to 112 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.959 the movie in a more special way. Yep, it you know, 113 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:17.600 being Elfman. It has this kind of frantic sound that 114 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.639 I think fits the jangled energy of this movie. Yes, 115 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:21.240 you know. 116 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:27.439 Yeah, I like this intro sequence as kind of it's 117 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:31.639 an example, it's like a just another mission of the 118 00:06:31.879 --> 00:06:32.920 of the im Force. 119 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.160 Yeah, kind of a cold open. 120 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:41.639 Exactly right, And when we jump into the opening title sequence. 121 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:43.800 What I think is really cool is they preserve something 122 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:46.160 from the old television series, which is actually the films 123 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.639 have continued to do throughout, which is that you have 124 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:54.040 the opening title sequence including scenes from this episode if 125 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.399 you will, your right, minus context, right right, And that 126 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:00.879 was something the original show did. What's really cool is 127 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.959 if you look at the shots that we get of 128 00:07:04.600 --> 00:07:07.879 each of the of the team members in the beginning, 129 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:13.399 it's it's them right before they die. Well, I don't 130 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.000 know if I noticed that, Like, pay attention here, watch 131 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.120 this each of them right here, right before they die. 132 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:20.639 Yeah, you're right. 133 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:21.800 Isn't that funny? 134 00:07:22.399 --> 00:07:24.680 Before getting in the car and the elevator shaft? 135 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:27.160 But you don't know that, right? 136 00:07:27.439 --> 00:07:31.120 No, I didn't think about it. That's really funny. Wait, 137 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.040 so I want to ask you said you haven't seen 138 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:34.680 this a lot. I thought you were going to say recently, 139 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:36.920 but just in general, is this the one? Well I 140 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:38.160 assume too. 141 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:40.160 Is probably two I've seen twice. 142 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:42.920 Okay, yeah, yeah, so you don't come back to this 143 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:43.680 one very often? 144 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.839 I well, So, just to just to lay my cards 145 00:07:47.879 --> 00:07:51.399 on the table, I harbored a grudge against this film 146 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.600 for a long time as a fan of the television 147 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:58.279 series I was. I loved the TV show when I 148 00:07:58.319 --> 00:07:59.839 was a kid. I gone up inside her abay these 149 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:04.759 and this film, which I was very excited for, and 150 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:06.480 I was very excited to hear they were bringing back 151 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:09.160 the character Jim Phelps, who's the who's the lead you 152 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:12.839 know in the series, portrayed by Peter Graves. And when 153 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:17.079 I watched it and the whole thing turned on on 154 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:22.639 making Phelps not just a heel, but really an unrepentant heel, right, it. 155 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:23.600 Really it irked me. 156 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:28.879 Yeah, sure, you know, and so I sort of like it. 157 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.600 It was a tough thing to get past when when 158 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.320 watching this film, and then when it came to the franchise, 159 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:38.000 you know, the second one was so god awful in 160 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:40.480 my opinion, that it was very easy for me to 161 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:42.840 just write off this franchise period. And then you know, 162 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:46.200 I saw the third one with Sean actually an opening 163 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:47.759 day when it came out, and I loved that, and 164 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.440 I was like, this feels like the old series to me, 165 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:53.559 you know, And from then to now I had never 166 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:56.399 looked back, but but this one, you know, I'm at 167 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:57.919 a point now just to be clear, I mean, it's 168 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:00.000 been almost thirty years. I'm saying when I'm at a 169 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:02.320 point now where I'm like, you know what, Yes, he's 170 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:05.440 called Jim Phelps, but in my head he's John Boyd. 171 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.759 It's easier for me to accept this is that asshole, 172 00:09:08.919 --> 00:09:12.519 John Boyd. You know how Billy z Ayine plays Billy 173 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.120 z Aye and Zoolander. It's like, exactly, this is John 174 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:16.759 and so that's what I choose to do. 175 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:19.840 I think that makes sense. Well, yeah, and I can 176 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:25.600 understand because I didn't grow up watching the series. I do. 177 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:27.559 There was a reboot at one point right in the 178 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.000 again the late eighties, right eighties. I do remember watching 179 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.360 that with my dad, so I was familiar with Peter Graves, 180 00:09:32.480 --> 00:09:35.159 and they brought Peter Graves back for that yep, yep. 181 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.200 And I did like that a lot. But I can't 182 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:40.000 say it was I brought that with me into this, 183 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:43.080 so I did just take it at face value. But 184 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.000 I can imagine, yeah, something I'm a little more familiar with, 185 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:49.159 like say Star Trek or something, and they make a 186 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:52.279 Star Trek movie and then Captain Kirk is yeah, like 187 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:55.879 the unrepented villain. Yeah, that would not be enjoyable. 188 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:58.080 That was the example I would use, Like imagine they 189 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.519 did the first episode of Next Year Narration involves Captain 190 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:05.120 Kirk being a trader. You know, people would rightly be upset. 191 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.159 And my thought, and I promise I'm not going to 192 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:09.799 delve into this too much, but my thought was, it's 193 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:13.360 having Phelps. If you have him die heroically handed off, 194 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:17.399 no problem having him be the heel. I'm like, the 195 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:20.159 only people who are gonna like that. The only people 196 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.519 that's going to mean anything to are the people who 197 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:25.200 watched the show and who would know and like the characters, 198 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:26.000 So like, why do that? 199 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.120 Maybe he dies at the hand of a mole exactly. 200 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:32.799 Right, Like like let's say the opening sequence here where 201 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.120 where we think Phelps is dead, Let's say that's his 202 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.840 heroic death, okay, or he he he ends up through 203 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:41.600 the course of it, you know, dying heroically. 204 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:42.039 That's fine. 205 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.559 But yeah, I again, I want to be very clear, 206 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:46.120 I'm past that. 207 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:48.639 Now. Now. 208 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:53.360 This scene here was not they didn't shoot it originally. 209 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.240 This seque is right here. And this is something Emilia 210 00:10:56.320 --> 00:11:00.600 Stevez talked about where Branda Palmas screen in the film 211 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:05.440 for George Lucas, and George Lucas said Oh yeah, it's great, 212 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.679 but but where's your where's your spaghetti scene? Yeah? And 213 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:11.440 by that he meant a scene where you have the 214 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:17.000 characters over and over a meal discussing the plan yep, 215 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:19.240 and they're like, oh, yeah, that's a good that's a 216 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:20.919 good idea. And and this is Brian to Palm that 217 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:22.799 you talked about. It's like back then, you know, it's 218 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:25.360 Steven Spielberg and George Lucas and Seid of Franciscopo. 219 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:26.759 We just get to we just show each other our 220 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:27.919 movies amazing. 221 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:31.360 And I was thinking, I was like, this scene is 222 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.519 so important because it lulls you into thinking, oh, this 223 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:36.639 is our this is our crew. 224 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:40.519 Yes, yes, especially with Emilio Sivez, like a big star 225 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:43.440 being a part of it. Yeah, so which is you 226 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:45.919 know that that happens? Right? There's like the big twist 227 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.120 in Psycho where your main character dies in the middle 228 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.240 and you're like what you know? And then I don't 229 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.320 know many many times it happens a lot. I just 230 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:57.480 baked on all of them, but it's like, oh a 231 00:11:57.559 --> 00:11:59.200 scream was another one that came to mind, where Drew 232 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:02.279 Barrymore is on the poster and she gets killed in 233 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.399 the first several minutes, and so yeah, it's a it's 234 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.519 a good fake out right, thinking that Amelia will be 235 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:10.960 part of this movie, but we're shocked that we could 236 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:12.480 lose everything. We don't know who's safe. 237 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.679 Yeah, it's well, it's pretty the setup is pretty ingenious 238 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.759 because well, first of all, emilias Steveez. That's that's how 239 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:21.039 it was pitched him. It's like, you'll be in the 240 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:23.000 first scene and then we're going to kill you off. 241 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:23.600 Nobody expected. 242 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:26.480 He's like, oh, that's great, you know, which. 243 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:26.679 I love that. 244 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:31.279 But the you know, sort of the the crux of 245 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:35.919 the television series both versions was that the team would 246 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.799 get into their scrapes and you think it's it's a 247 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:42.480 it's a moment of tension or danger, but ultimately they 248 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:44.639 get out of it and you know, nobody in the 249 00:12:44.679 --> 00:12:45.759 im team dies. 250 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:46.440 Right. 251 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.440 I've used the term competence porn before. That's mission impossible. 252 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:51.679 You watch the television show. 253 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:53.639 You know, I should really go back and watch this. 254 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:56.360 I feel like I would love them. You you absolutely should. 255 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.919 One thing I always say is like to me personally, 256 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:03.159 like I I I like it. Starting with season two 257 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.440 because that's when Peter Graves came on, he was on it. 258 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.600 But the seasons two. 259 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.159 And three, you've got you've got Peter Graves as the lead, 260 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:17.519 You've got Martin Landau as as essentially they eat the 261 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:21.279 hunt Master of Disguise character. Okay, Barbara Bain, it was. 262 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:23.559 It was like a great cast during like seasons two 263 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:27.399 and three. Yeah, absolutely worth watching. 264 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.919 Well and while we're still on it with Amelia Stuvez. 265 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:36.679 So he's also uncredited. Yes, right, And apparently I didn't 266 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:40.720 know this, but Tom Cruise appears uncredited and Young Guns? 267 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:45.480 Wow is that right? Apparently? I I, you know, I've 268 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.559 actually never seen Young Guns, but that's not a long 269 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.120 time ago. There's like the Outsider's connection. So you wonder 270 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.960 if they're just kind of buds, yeah in this moment, 271 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:56.080 you know, and just I don't know, doing that for 272 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:59.320 one another. Well I like that, Yeah, me too. 273 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:04.720 This, I mean, this was Tom Cruise's first just straight 274 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:06.600 up action movie. 275 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:08.720 Yeah, which is strange to think about because now they 276 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:11.480 think of him as one of our greatest living action here. 277 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.200 Isn't that interesting? Like at the time, this was sort 278 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:19.399 of this was a lark for Tom Cruise, who was 279 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:23.600 like a very well respected you know, thrillers and dramas 280 00:14:23.639 --> 00:14:29.519 and and hadn't done action movies, but this was his 281 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:30.639 first movie as a producer. 282 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:34.759 Yeah, that's really interesting, right, Yeah. 283 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:39.399 And I think it's it's it illustrates. I mean, the 284 00:14:39.399 --> 00:14:44.000 guy's you know, he's got good instincts in terms of 285 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:45.480 storytelling and whatnot. 286 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:49.080 Yeah, I mean, I think you have some more to 287 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:50.879 add to this, but it sounds like there was some 288 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:55.399 tension between Tom Cruise and DePalma. And knowing what we 289 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:59.320 know now, I mean, Tom Cruise in most cases is 290 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:04.519 a very hands on producer, Yeah, right, possibly even a 291 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:06.279 co director at least when it comes to the mission 292 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.919 impossible films, like a co collaborator in every sense of 293 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:14.240 the word now with mcquarie. Right, Yeah, So it sounds 294 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:17.519 like he was maybe bringing that energy even as early 295 00:15:17.559 --> 00:15:19.360 as this movie. 296 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:23.320 And well, and it goes beyond Cruise and de Palma. 297 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:25.919 You know, you also had a tension between Brian de 298 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.639 Palma and Robert Town who who who Tom Cruise and 299 00:15:30.639 --> 00:15:33.919 Paul Wagner had brought in to rewrite the David kepscript. 300 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:37.360 The kep script is what de Palma wanted to direct 301 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.120 Robert Town, you know, Chinatown, Robert Town. 302 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:40.639 Sure. 303 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:44.360 Obviously having him, you know, in the mix, would sort 304 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.759 of add to the prestige, and so you had he 305 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:50.480 had certain instincts Di Paluma wanted to go a certain way, 306 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:54.720 and oftentimes it was like Cruise was the tiebreaker, you know. 307 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:59.120 But yeah, it is remarkable how this movie did point 308 00:15:59.320 --> 00:16:04.840 the way for the rest of his career. Really, yeah, 309 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:07.919 this is this is what inaugurated the great Tom Cruise 310 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:09.639 running meme, right, I mean. 311 00:16:09.840 --> 00:16:12.320 Yeah, yeah, it really is. I mean yeah it started here. 312 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.080 I mean before this, yeah, I mean you think the 313 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:17.919 younger roles, risky business outsiders, things like that, but yeah, 314 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:20.360 it was, like you said, sort of adult thrillers like 315 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:22.679 The Firm or you know, dramas like Born on the 316 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:26.600 fourth of July, Far and Away, epic kind of stuff. 317 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.159 But yeah, this is what we would. Yeah, this was 318 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:33.360 a shift, a pivot for him a little bit, it. 319 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:38.080 Was, and it it came in a pretty good summer. 320 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:41.200 Like I was, I was looking at this is this 321 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.879 is a memorial Day of ninety six that it came out. 322 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:48.360 This was this was a few weeks after the Rock Wow. Yeah, right, 323 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.639 I think the Phantom was this year maybe, like maybe no, No, 324 00:16:51.799 --> 00:16:53.200 In fact, the Phantom was the same weekend that The 325 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:56.120 Rock came Out's also paramount that one did not do well, 326 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:59.120 by the way, but yeah, yeah, it did well in 327 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:03.120 my heart. Independence Day was this year. 328 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:07.200 Yeah, well, I uh just looking it up. I mean, 329 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:08.960 I have the box office here because I was interested. 330 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.680 So this was the third highest grossing movie of nineteen 331 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:14.079 ninety six. And by the way, Jerry McGuire came out 332 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:17.519 this year, which I had a hard time like putting 333 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:19.359 that in my brain because I remember seeing both in 334 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:20.400 the theater, but they don't. 335 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:23.119 Was that was that in the Fall? 336 00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:26.559 That was in December? Okay? Yeah, but uh yeah, highest 337 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:29.960 grossing movie starting at one was Independence Day, then Twister, 338 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:33.160 than Mission Impossible, Twister, I forgot about that, Yeah, then 339 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:35.759 The Rock, then Netty Professor at five Ransom, which we 340 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.480 bring up sometimes is a lost or not long lost, 341 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:41.680 but forgotten movie that was the sixth highest grossing movie 342 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:43.519 of nineteen ninety six, and. 343 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:46.519 Way down in seventy eighth place the Phantom. 344 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:52.720 Yeah yeah, yeah, but you know what's interesting, this movie 345 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.640 came out it got a sixty five percent Rotten Tomatoes, 346 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:57.519 not that that existed then, but now looking at it, 347 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:00.480 sixty five percent Rotten Tomatoes. Most critics I saw complaining 348 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:02.920 that the plot was too complicated. I remember that, and 349 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.000 it has a B plus cinema score. Kind of interesting. 350 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:10.319 That is interesting. Well, I remember it did well, but 351 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:12.839 I don't I don't know that anyone really loved it 352 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:13.640 when it came out. 353 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:16.799 I wouldn't say that I loved it, but I remember 354 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:18.680 liking it a lot. I thought it was cool. I 355 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:20.960 thought this movie is very cool. It has a really 356 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.880 this movie has a weird energy, right. 357 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:26.839 Well, especially like on its own, but also when you 358 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:28.640 compare it with the other films. 359 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:33.400 Yes, but I mean I mean that lovingly. It's it 360 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:37.440 doesn't feel like a nineties film necessarily. Like there's a 361 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:41.079 weird other worldliness to this movie. I finally, like I was, 362 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:42.680 I was trying to figure out how to describe it. 363 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:46.079 I mean, it's certainly heightened, yeah, and all of them 364 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:48.359 are to a degree, but this one almost reminds me 365 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:53.839 of like an anime, right yeah, well, certainly with. 366 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:55.279 The camera angles and things like that. 367 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:58.319 Yeah, and like the way the drama is executed, and 368 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:00.880 even the action sequence, especially the the train sequence at 369 00:19:00.920 --> 00:19:04.599 the end, there's like a weird, otherworldly, anime esque sort 370 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:06.759 of feel of this movie, yeah, which I kind of 371 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:09.920 I remember loving then and I still love now, which 372 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:13.799 I I do remember, especially when the series turned around 373 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.599 a little bit with three. Yeah, this was thought of 374 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:19.680 as less than but I was always like, I don't know, 375 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:21.279 there's always been a little place in my heart for 376 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:21.720 this one. 377 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:25.119 And uh, my sense is that this one was always 378 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:28.799 fairly well regarded. I don't know anybody who loves the 379 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:34.400 second movie. Yeah, and I'm sure they exist. I don't 380 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:35.920 want to have anything to do with those people, but 381 00:19:35.960 --> 00:19:40.079 I'm sure. I'm sure they're out there. But what I 382 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:43.759 like in it too is the fast and the furious 383 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:44.799 this one. 384 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:46.640 Yeah, that's a great comparison. 385 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.759 This is the fast and the furious of the Mission 386 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:50.680 Impossible movies. 387 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:54.599 Yes, meaning I mean, if you want to yeah, yeah, well. 388 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:58.519 It's it clearly points the way towards the series, but 389 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:04.680 but the stakes are a little smaller, the not all 390 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:09.880 the pieces are there quite yet, and you know, you 391 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:11.079 kind of look at it like, well, this is what 392 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:12.359 got the whole thing started, you know. 393 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:14.920 Yeah. Yeah, the tone is very different than any of 394 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:15.720 the other films. 395 00:20:17.519 --> 00:20:20.119 In this one, they're content to steal DVD players off 396 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:24.839 of trucks and yeah, exactly if you will, the knocklist 397 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:28.279 being the metaphorical DVD player. 398 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:34.920 Metmorical DVD TV sets or whatever you know. Like, by 399 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:37.160 the way, I there's two things I want to say. 400 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:39.279 All right, I'm gonna say this one little factoid because 401 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:41.759 we're talking about moments in time and then we can 402 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.480 comment on what's happening on screen. But h a funny fact. 403 00:20:45.519 --> 00:20:48.880 I saw that this was the last major studio movie 404 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:53.440 to be released on Beta Max video cassette, Wow, which 405 00:20:53.519 --> 00:20:55.440 puts it in a weird moment in time, right, like 406 00:20:55.480 --> 00:20:58.279 it ties it to well, this is all the past, 407 00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:02.519 but like past past, let's say, and this movie is 408 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:04.920 also still tied to twenty twenty five because we're getting 409 00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:07.839 a sequel from it in about a week. So isn't 410 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:08.559 that kind of interesting? 411 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:13.519 It's like a it's like a nexus point in time. Yes, exactly, 412 00:21:13.680 --> 00:21:15.759 the past and the future meet. Yeah. 413 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:17.799 Did you ever, I mean, just because I think it's 414 00:21:17.880 --> 00:21:19.920 kind of interesting, did you ever have a Beta max player? 415 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.279 Or I did not have a Beta Max But but 416 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:24.480 you know, Beta never really took off state side, right, 417 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:27.279 but in Saudi Arabia, I would say Beta. 418 00:21:27.079 --> 00:21:28.119 Was the preferred format. 419 00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:32.319 Yeah, and so we had we had a VHS and 420 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:34.759 it was always harder to get movies on BHS. 421 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:36.960 Oh interesting, My neighbor had a Beta player, and I 422 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:38.839 remember it was like kind of weird because we couldn't 423 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:42.480 swap movies. Yeah, you know, and I was like, right, 424 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:46.640 why are your VHS cassettes like shorter and stumpier and 425 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:50.400 yet better quality. Yes, that's the thing that's the rub, right, 426 00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:55.240 like they were a higher quality. But anyway, so I yeah, 427 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:58.519 I do want to comment on this sequence here, and 428 00:21:58.880 --> 00:22:03.480 I love the I mean, I'm just gonna say it 429 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:05.880 low fi spycraft happening where it's sort of like a 430 00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.680 woman with a perfume bottle spraying some sort of chemical 431 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:11.799 that can you know, on someone's back that can be 432 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:14.480 seen through special glasses so they can keep an eye 433 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:15.839 on him. Like, I love all this stuff. 434 00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:20.039 It's very h when you when you talk about the 435 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:26.119 type of spycraft, it's very feels you know, cold War centric, you. 436 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:28.400 Know, yeah, even though we were a few years removed 437 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:28.680 from that. 438 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:33.039 But this right here, so so we have First of all, 439 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.559 I didn't I forgot how freaking horrifying his death is. Yeah, Emilios, 440 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:39.680 but this is the type of thing like you would 441 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:41.680 never have seen this in the old TV show, right, 442 00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:45.680 they always have these last minute things, and so right 443 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.039 away it's meant to be like this, ain't this, ain't 444 00:22:48.039 --> 00:22:51.440 that anymore? You know, like right here when when Phelps 445 00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:53.960 is like man down, you never heard man down and 446 00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:58.240 mission impossible, right, And I think it's a great way 447 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.000 of shaking up the edges sketch. 448 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:03.039 You know. Yeah, and knowing what we know after watching 449 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:07.160 the movie at least one time, seeing Phelps here just 450 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.519 so cold, so cold, and he's orchestrating this death. You 451 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:13.559 don't know it in this moment, but yeah, exactly, yeah, 452 00:23:13.599 --> 00:23:15.839 and then it's horrifying for this PG. Thirteen movie. We 453 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.599 see the jagged whatever the hell that is, like go 454 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:19.480 right into his face. 455 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:25.799 Oh yeah, he's extremely dead, ded dead. Yeah yeah. 456 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:28.000 Yeah. 457 00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:31.200 This came at kind of a career resurgence moment for 458 00:23:31.400 --> 00:23:34.920 John Voight too, right, because he was in Anaconda right 459 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:38.119 around the same time, and then he kind of found 460 00:23:38.200 --> 00:23:41.559 this vein of just like bureaucratic assholes that he played 461 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:43.200 for the next decade or so. 462 00:23:43.160 --> 00:23:46.359 You know, yeah, because I know they referenced him on Seinfeld, 463 00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.880 you know, the Yeah, that's Urge buys the car with 464 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:51.559 John Foyd's pencil in it or whatever. But I didn't 465 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:54.559 really know who that was. I feel like this is 466 00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:57.400 the moment where I was beginning to like understand who 467 00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:58.079 John Voight was. 468 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:01.079 Yeah, man, I'm with you, but. 469 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:03.160 Yeah, man, they killed Gordon Bombay. 470 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:06.200 No, it is nothing sacred. 471 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.240 I know, what's my teenage self supposed to think? Now? 472 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:11.359 Did you see this in the theater? 473 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:15.440 I did? I remember it very well? Actually, wow, yeah, 474 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:19.359 I remember this and Twister. I don't know why, but 475 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:21.160 those experiences I remember really well. 476 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:25.160 Twister was like the week before this, I think, wow, yeah, 477 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:27.359 I think I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure. 478 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:29.119 Yeah, yeah, did you not? 479 00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:32.000 I didn't see this in theater? You know, I saw 480 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:35.359 this via Well. Corey hebying a listener to our show. 481 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:37.759 He at the time, we went to high school together. 482 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:42.160 He worked at Suncoast Hey Rip, and so he got 483 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.960 me the VIHS tape for Christmas that year. Oh cool, 484 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:46.720 So that was how I That was how I saw 485 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:47.480 it for the first time. 486 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:51.920 Yeah, yeah, I mean that's so. We talked about how 487 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:56.200 DVDs really busted a door wide open where you know 488 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:58.640 it used to be sort of unique at least for 489 00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:02.519 people our age to own many movies, right, And then 490 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:04.880 TVD happened, and that was when I was in college, 491 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:06.960 and it feels like everybody had at least like eight 492 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:08.279 or ten DVDs of something. 493 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.319 That's exactly it, because I when I was in high school, 494 00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:15.400 I already had like a little VHS rack and it 495 00:25:15.480 --> 00:25:19.200 was like my movies. And that was that it's a 496 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.359 weird thing to say. People maybe don't Yeah, that was 497 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.000 not normal for most people because they would just rent. 498 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:28.319 Yeah you know. Yeah, So that's why when you said 499 00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:30.640 it like that, was getting this little feeling inside remembering 500 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:32.599 in ninety six or seven or whatever, how it would 501 00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:35.279 have felt having this would be like, oh, that's kind 502 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:35.680 of special. 503 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:38.799 Like I remember specifically when you're talking about ninety six, 504 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:40.880 I owned The Rock on BHS. I owned the Phantom 505 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.119 on VHS. I owned an Independence Day on VHS. I 506 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.319 owned this on VHS. Yeah. 507 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.440 Yeah, I always think back and kind of chuckle remembering 508 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:51.319 using my allowance to buy The Fugitive when I was 509 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:53.799 thirteen years old, Like what boy was? You know? It 510 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:56.960 like a target with his allowance money buying The Fugitive. 511 00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.319 On BHS because that's so funny. 512 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.440 So now as everything's going down, all the members are 513 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.240 going to be taken out. So I was reading, I 514 00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:07.519 thought this was kind of funny. So this was shot 515 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:10.960 in Prague, yes, and it was a huge logistical nightmare 516 00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.279 lighting all of this. I mean it's oh wow, you know, 517 00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:16.480 two miles worth of riverfront that they had to light, 518 00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:20.400 so they took two weeks to prepare, figuring out how 519 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:23.200 to light it, setting it up. And because they had 520 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:29.839 done such a beautiful setup, apparently photographers, like amateur photographers 521 00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:33.319 just came out and droves because now their city was 522 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:36.240 lit so beautifully, they could take all these unique pictures, 523 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.359 you know, with everything I don't know, so beautifully illuminated. 524 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:42.960 I thought that was like kind of funny, Like what 525 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.519 an opportunity. You know, your city's lit up professionally in 526 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.039 this way that it will probably never be lit up again. 527 00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:51.359 It's like, well, let's go get some pictures. 528 00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:55.559 Oh and right here, as we're watching, you know, John 529 00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:57.799 Voyd just took a header into the ocean. I was thinking, 530 00:26:57.799 --> 00:26:59.839 here's another way this movie is different from what come. 531 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:00.799 It comes later. 532 00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:04.000 You know Ethan Hunt would would Aquaman dove into the 533 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:14.799 water after him. Oh yeah, yeah, Now we have Jesus Hunt. Yeah, 534 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.079 remember in which one was I think it was a 535 00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:20.599 rogue nation right where it's like it's it's Ethan Hunt 536 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:24.079 disguised as the Alec Baldwin character. Yeah, and he's like 537 00:27:24.279 --> 00:27:26.559 Hunt is the manifestation of destiny or whatever. 538 00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.680 Remember that? Oh yeah, yea absolutely, I'm like he's a 539 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:34.240 living manifestation of destiny. 540 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:37.319 I think that's that's what That's what Tom grizz thinks 541 00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:38.319 of eth the Hunt as you know. 542 00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.000 Yeah, by the. 543 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:46.279 Way, that was a beautiful car explosion. It's tricky, right, 544 00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:49.880 like you don't want it to be too big, Yeah, 545 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:51.640 but it's got to be big enough that you believe 546 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:52.680 that the person inside is. 547 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:57.119 A crispy critter. Yeah. I'm sort of like admiring the 548 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.920 craft at least. I feel like now things get plused 549 00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:01.920 in such a way that we were like, oh, that 550 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.319 car exploded, but we also are our brains kind of 551 00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:07.079 realized that that was like an effect. But that was 552 00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:10.359 a real scrappy sort of car explosion that felt all 553 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:13.079 the more dangerous and yeah, for those reasons. 554 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:16.160 Now, Christen Scott Thomas, I'm pretty sure this is the 555 00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:17.359 first movie I saw her in. 556 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:18.799 I'm sure it was for me. 557 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.680 But English Patient was probably a couple of years after this. 558 00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:28.240 Right, Oh was that like six or seven or something? 559 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:33.000 Yeah, it well, it was it was when Seinfeld was 560 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:36.960 still on Yes, yes, of course, So therefore we've got 561 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.039 like a like a two year window. 562 00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.519 I remember watching The English Patient on VHS with my 563 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.960 girlfriend at the time and being like, this is boor 564 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:52.359 that's my memory of it. 565 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:55.000 Well, then that Seinfeld episode really spoke to you. 566 00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:02.880 Yeah. Yeah, And apparently the knife that he sees there 567 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:07.440 is the same knife that we later see Jean Renau has, right, Yes, 568 00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:07.880 that's right. 569 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:11.799 And and and I mean it's really clever because they 570 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.920 lay all the pieces in place where I think when 571 00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:19.079 you're watching it, you're not like, once once the reveals 572 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:21.039 are out there, you're not like, oh, come on, it 573 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:22.519 all pretty well fits, I. 574 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.759 Think, you know. And and there is much more. 575 00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:32.920 Like there's more of a mystery aspect to this movie, yeah, 576 00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:35.039 than than the later ones, which are which are I 577 00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:42.599 think more broadly big stunt filled capers totally and you know, 578 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.640 talking about how you know, it's sort of sort of 579 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.759 the fast and furious connections which I've made those connections before, 580 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.519 because I remember when when we did Dead Reckoning and 581 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:54.839 that came out the same year as the same summers 582 00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.359 as Fast Ten. I was like, these two movies are 583 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:01.160 like it's like a film school assignment where people come 584 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:04.200 back with very different movies, but it's it's the same idea, 585 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.599 you know. Yeah, yeah, I think I said, like I 586 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:08.759 would release them as a two pet called Friends and Family. 587 00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:13.759 That's good because if you're if you're Don Tretto's family boy, 588 00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:15.839 you're you're in like Flynn. And if you're eating Hunt's 589 00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.880 Friends boy, I'll tell you he will manifest destiny on 590 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:20.519 your behalf. 591 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:32.359 Uh. I feel like, uh, man, I had somebody I 592 00:30:32.400 --> 00:30:35.359 was telling you off, Mike. I mean, in researching this movie, 593 00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:38.160 it's just so many fascinating things, much more than I 594 00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:41.279 expected with this movie. I mean, it's funny. I want 595 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:42.440 to talk about the movie, but I also want to 596 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:44.400 talk about the making of the movie. I thought this 597 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.240 was interesting. This was the third movie and final movie 598 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:52.960 that Paramount Pictures developed, uh, having bought from Lucille Ball's 599 00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:58.319 Desilu Productions. Right, so we got star Trek Untouchable, Untouchable, 600 00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:01.160 This is impossible, Like that's just one of those things. 601 00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:04.960 You it's like a little footnote, but a fascinating one 602 00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:05.960 for Lucille Ball. 603 00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:10.720 Yeah. Well, well, and you can see why Paramount was 604 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.039 probably entirely on board with to Palma directing because he 605 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:19.559 did The Untouchables and it was very successful. Right, But 606 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:24.559 it wasn't like hiring di Palma was not a Paramount decision. 607 00:31:24.599 --> 00:31:27.640 It was a Tom Cruise decision. And I thought that 608 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.960 was interesting in and of itself because because Cruz met 609 00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:32.839 Di Palma, I think I think it was while they 610 00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.640 were filming, while he was filming Interview at the Vampire, 611 00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:41.720 which remember all the consternation over that, Like I wasn't 612 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:43.519 I was not familiar with the Interview of the Vampire 613 00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:45.319 at all, or Leastotte and any of that. But I 614 00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:49.559 remember people pre Internet having shit fits over Tom Cruise 615 00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.160 being cast as lastatt Yeah. 616 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:55.680 I might have been a little young and not super interested, 617 00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.079 Like it wasn't in my sphere of interest kind of 618 00:31:58.079 --> 00:31:59.640 a thing. But I do remember that that was a 619 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.400 big like I remember that story, that's right, but I 620 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:03.880 don't have an opinion on it because I still to 621 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.119 this day I haven't seen it either. 622 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:11.240 But he so he meets di Palma. He's having dinner 623 00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:13.319 with Spielberg. I think he meets Di Palma. He goes back, 624 00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:14.920 he watches all of his movies and he's like, this 625 00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:15.599 is the guy. 626 00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.440 Which I kind of get because whatever he's bringing to 627 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.359 this movie, it is here right, like, yes, this is 628 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:23.599 a DiPalma. 629 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:27.759 Scene, is a perfect evocay, Like this is a DiPalma 630 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:28.680 scene right here. 631 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:35.240 Yeah, so so heightened, almost cartoonishly so, but also deliciously so. Yeah. Right, 632 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.720 I gotta admit, I mean, I'm recently catching up on 633 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:41.839 my DiPalma. I just saw Body Double in the past 634 00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.039 couple of years and things like that. But he's I mean, yeah, 635 00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.119 he's got such an identifiable style. 636 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.920 Yeah, And I would say I'm kind of hot and 637 00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:49.599 cold on him. 638 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.599 I remember that from back in the day. Actually, I 639 00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:53.359 kind of remember that. 640 00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.720 Yeah, Like I don't I don't dislike him, but I 641 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:58.519 do think sometimes he gets sort of overwhelmed by his 642 00:32:58.559 --> 00:32:59.759 own sense of style. 643 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.079 Yeah, which I would say is fine with me with 644 00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.680 him if he's working on his own material, right, But 645 00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:08.240 if he were to come in and do an Indiana 646 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:11.480 Jones movie or something, I would be like, yeah, you know, 647 00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:14.720 but I do feel like I'm glad that not all 648 00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.799 the Mission Impossible movies feel like this, but I think 649 00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.839 this is a cool one that we get. 650 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.680 I agree with that, and I think what he brought 651 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.200 to this was obviously good enough to get the ball rolling, 652 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.000 you know, and you know it gave it the momentum 653 00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:34.680 to just keep going. But you also appreciate I think, 654 00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.119 let's see this right here, look at the cantid angle. 655 00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.240 Can't and like in his crotch look, I mean, yeah, 656 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:42.519 we can see his nose hairs, you know. 657 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.519 Yeah, but it's freaking awesome. 658 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.799 Yeah, I think I think this scene is one of 659 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:50.640 the best scenes in the whole movie. And it's not 660 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:52.720 an action sequence per se. 661 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.160 No, it feels like one, but it isn't. Yeah, you know, 662 00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:02.039 the tension is almost comical, but it feels good. Well. 663 00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.559 The great thing to me, like, I've always dug Henry 664 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.400 Cherney as a character actor. I think he portrays such 665 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.800 a unique type. Right yeah again. 666 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:13.320 Just bureaucratic asshole. 667 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.440 He's your man, you know, because yeah, I was in 668 00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:18.599 clear in present Danger of the year before this, but. 669 00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:22.000 So and I haven't seen that in many, many years. 670 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.480 But is he is heightened in that movie as the 671 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.239 performance he's giving in this scene. 672 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.400 Yes, and no, I think he's got a certain delivery, 673 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:35.760 like he sounds like, you know, you go weaving as 674 00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:40.440 Agent Smith. Yes, great comparison, Yes, right, and he's just 675 00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.400 got this presence and I think it tells you something 676 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:43.880 that they were like, no, no, we got to bring him back. 677 00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.039 It took a while, we got to bring him back. Oh, 678 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:48.400 it's just like incredible. Yeah. 679 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.880 It just embodies an archetype, you know. Yeah, So that's 680 00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.440 why I like this scene because it gives us a 681 00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.800 window into how quick of a thinger Ethan is. And 682 00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.719 I think the floating fish tank is a great button 683 00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:02.000 on it. 684 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:02.599 Yep. 685 00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:06.599 And again it's relatively speaking, it's pretty restrained. But watching 686 00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.320 it again, I was like, this sequence is nuts, Like 687 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:10.280 that's that's. 688 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:13.119 A lot of water. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say, 689 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.159 great practical effect. It might not feel as I'll use 690 00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:19.400 my word that people attribute to me. I guess bombastic. 691 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.159 I'm not very conscious of whenever I say that. But 692 00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.239 you know, now you'd go much much bigger. But that 693 00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:31.039 looks very real because it is and also very like, damn, 694 00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:32.800 I wouldn't want to be trying to. 695 00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.280 Stay ahead of that water. Yeah, that's right, it's very cool. Well, 696 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.159 apparently this is what Brian de Palmers said that he 697 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.119 talked to Tom Cruise and he's basically like, you have 698 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.280 to you have to do it in order to make 699 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:45.800 it look. We can't have a stunt man. You have 700 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:49.639 to do it. Yeah, And Cruise is very reticent about it, 701 00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.800 and he was like, I don't know. I'm an actor, 702 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:53.719 I'm not a stunt man. 703 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.639 I know it's weird movie the irony moment, that's right, 704 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:02.320 but you know whatever biopic. 705 00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.639 Yeah, it's oh, it's a Paul McCartney as a kid. 706 00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:07.960 You know. It's like, oh, I just played the guitar, yeah, 707 00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:12.159 and played the bass. 708 00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.159 And so Brian Defalma says, he's like, I think I 709 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.880 I sort of you know, got that ball rolling because 710 00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:21.360 once he did it, he's like, oh my god, I 711 00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:23.719 need to fall off things now, you know or whatever? 712 00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.199 What does that be a building to climb? 713 00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.119 Yeah, I was gonna say Toby maguire and uh, Spider Man, 714 00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:34.719 He's like, the power feels good. Well, I only remember 715 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.599 that because Sean used to do that all the time. 716 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.599 He would always quote that the power feels good. It 717 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:41.519 is from Spider Man. 718 00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.559 Three. Is that what it is? Three? Yeah? 719 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:47.760 Oh man, that's really funny. Yeah, but that one's awesome. 720 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:50.159 And there's like, we got an awesome little lens flair there, 721 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:53.039 you know when lens flairs used to be tasteful and 722 00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.039 sort of accentuate things versus flooding the frame. 723 00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:01.360 But uh, before JJ came in in the third movie 724 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.760 and just just lens flared the living shit out of everything. 725 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.280 But see this kind of stuff here. Now, where's he's 726 00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.840 gotten away? He's used the chewing gum. We should call out, 727 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:12.880 you know, the red light green light thing. FLI up 728 00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:14.679 the fish tank, got away. Now when he's going to 729 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.440 the safe house. I love the low craft or low 730 00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:22.559 five spike craft stuff, you know where it's like breaking glass, 731 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.159 spreading it on the floor, you know, so you can 732 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:27.679 hear someone coming. And I just I don't know, all 733 00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:34.159 this feels possible. I don't mean that that was not intentional, 734 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.679 but like, I want to see spectacular things, but I 735 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.360 also want to see clever things, right, and I enjoy 736 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:42.840 the cleverness of those smaller sorts of things. 737 00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:47.280 Well, it tells you something that in the early goings 738 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:51.559 they were still trying to figure out what this series is, 739 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.599 and I think that's reflected in how different movie one 740 00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:02.199 movie two are. Right, It's it's a pretty wide spectrum, 741 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.159 with each of the first two films on either end 742 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:09.760 of it, you know, right, And I think I think 743 00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.800 that's that's this by the the whole process by which 744 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.880 he tries to find Max and his his web searching 745 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:20.119 is hilarious to me. 746 00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.199 Well yeah, because right he puts in something. I don't 747 00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.119 remember what the first thing is, but it's like three 748 00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.119 hundred results in the entire world. 749 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:38.480 Job three fourteen and it says no results, right, And 750 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:40.880 I'm like, how is that even possible? 751 00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:42.679 You know, isn't that fascinating? 752 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.960 You'd get at least one hundred thousand up front? Half 753 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.000 of them would be pornography. 754 00:38:48.840 --> 00:38:51.199 Right, exactly exactly, you know. 755 00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:54.000 But the idea of like nothing being found is very funny. 756 00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.320 This is this is a very mid nineties view of 757 00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:57.960 what the Internet was going to be like, you know. 758 00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.400 M hmm, yeah, yeah. I mean I doubt I was 759 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.159 even using the internet at this point. I maybe in 760 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:06.320 school maybe. 761 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.199 I think fall of ninety six I started. 762 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:11.440 Yeah, yeah, I don't think I had an email address 763 00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:12.880 until ninety seven. 764 00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:17.360 Yeah, definitely for me ninety seven. Yeah, yeah, but I 765 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:20.280 remember Apple was really leaning. Apple was in like a 766 00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:23.719 down period because this is pre Steve Jobs coming back, Yeah, 767 00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.639 and they needed whatever help they could. So I mean 768 00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:29.639 all the all the you know, laptops or Apple laptops, 769 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:31.920 and I remember all the TV ads. 770 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.039 Oh really, I don't remember that. I was reading about 771 00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.800 it though, Like he's using a model that hadn't even 772 00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:40.079 come out yet, just to show how you know, sleek 773 00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:42.719 and sophisticated their laptops were going to be. So they 774 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.000 had like a different laptop actually operating inside of it. 775 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.079 But it's just funny now because you look at it 776 00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:51.760 and you're like, look at that cinder block it really 777 00:39:55.239 --> 00:40:00.000 but yeah, pretty clever Job three fourteen, Job three fourteen. 778 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.440 Although this whole thing, yeah, him messaging like so many 779 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:11.119 people trying to a needle inside a haystack inside another haystack. 780 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.320 For some reason, it reminds me of like you imagine 781 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.559 all the people getting that email exactly exactly. It reminds 782 00:40:19.559 --> 00:40:23.000 me of the SNL sketch where John Malkovich is the 783 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:25.199 guy from in Line of Fire and he calls the 784 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:25.800 wrong guy. 785 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:28.400 I forget I remember that. 786 00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:30.679 Yeah, he's a little kid. He's like, how did you 787 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.639 feel when Kennedy died? It's this little kid is like 788 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:36.960 Kennedy died. That's so funny. 789 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:38.840 That's a good idea. 790 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.960 It's a funny, funny premise that would mean nothing today, right, 791 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:44.800 but back then, comedy. 792 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.360 Gold see right now? Oh, I guess he's doing different languages. 793 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:49.519 I was gonna say, he's just copy paste this email 794 00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:56.400 instead of writing it like four hundred times. This was 795 00:40:56.519 --> 00:40:58.360 kind of fun. I mentioned I saw it in the 796 00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.199 theater recently. So my friend works at Hairamount and then 797 00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:04.960 the lead up to the final movie coming out, they've 798 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:08.400 been showing every mission impossible at their theater on the lot, 799 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.079 and so yeah, he and I went and saw the 800 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:16.360 first one, this one, and man, what a blast watching 801 00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:18.480 this on a big screen again, Like it's just so, 802 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:22.079 I don't know, it's not something that gets replayed a 803 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.239 lot at repertory theaters. And it is thrilled, very thrilling. 804 00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.880 But yeah, watching it with a crowd was really fun. 805 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.719 And hearing people sort of chuckle at the I don't know, 806 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.760 a nachronistic sort of stuff like this scene. I remember 807 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:36.320 people kind of snickering when Voight walks in no with 808 00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:39.599 the internet stuff the internet. Yeah, but it's just just fun. 809 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:40.719 It's kind of fun. 810 00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:46.320 I like this beat here with with the Phelps car 811 00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.519 where where we realize he's just imagining seeing Phelps because 812 00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:52.440 it allows the moment later when he does come back 813 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.840 for you to be like, wait, is this real? 814 00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:57.840 It is very dreamy, isn't it. Toward the end of 815 00:41:57.880 --> 00:41:59.519 the film, when he's putting it all together and the 816 00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.920 way that he imagining all the grace mind, Yeah, I 817 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:08.559 love that scene. Yeah, so this is kind of interesting 818 00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:12.360 with Claire. I was reading that apparently there was sort 819 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.559 of like a love triangle happening. Yeah, it's even so 820 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:16.360 much as filmed. 821 00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:18.280 You can see it in the trailer. It's in the trailer. 822 00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:21.000 Yeah, I think even in the opening sort of sizzle, 823 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.159 real sort of thing that's happening. There's a moment where 824 00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.280 they're like kissing, okay, and I guess through test screenings 825 00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:30.840 people didn't jive with that, which I kind of agree 826 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.480 with it. It sort of makes them feel like a dirtbag. 827 00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:34.039 I definitely agree with that. 828 00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.760 But it's also it's interesting because at the end of 829 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:42.280 the film, you have, you know, the Phelps character being like, 830 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.000 oh and I knew that he would fall for your 831 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.800 temptation or whatever they said. I'm like, yeah, but nothing 832 00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:49.599 really happens. I don't think you know. 833 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:54.880 No, it's very ambiguous artistic in the final version, right 834 00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.480 where he kind of like she kisses his hand or something, 835 00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.719 and then that's it in crossfade to something else. 836 00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.400 I guess that's meant to be be the the temptation, you. 837 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.840 Know, Yeah, yeah you can. I guess, bring whatever you 838 00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:11.480 want to bring to what happens next. But yeah, so 839 00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:14.000 I was also I mean, going back to the original 840 00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.880 cast of Mission Impossible, they were all invited to be 841 00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.599 in this film, but apparently they were going to be 842 00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:22.159 the characters that populated the opening scene. So it'd be 843 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:26.000 Ethan Hunt with the original cast and they would one 844 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:28.840 by one get picked off, and they were like, yeah, 845 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.559 now we're good. Yeah. 846 00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.559 Well, and that wouldn't have made sense for a couple 847 00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:35.159 of different reasons because by by then, you know, Martin 848 00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:39.599 Landau was substantially older, and it's hard to imagine him 849 00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:42.360 doing the same Master of Disguise stick you know. Sure, 850 00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:49.039 so yeah, I I they wanted Peter Graves to come back, sure, 851 00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:53.760 and he was like, yeah, yeah, absolutely, not, you know. 852 00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.840 But what's interesting is that many years later, once JJ 853 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.320 Abrams came on as not just director for the third one, 854 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.800 but he became co producer for a couple of the 855 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.360 movies there, he said like, I want to bring back 856 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.039 Peter Graves. I want to kind of like redeem his character. 857 00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:14.159 And then, of course Peter Graves passed away a couple 858 00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:19.079 of years later. But I like that he had that instinct. Yeah, 859 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:21.039 you know, because they had done something similar with Star 860 00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.320 Trek right when they did when he did, when Abrams 861 00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:24.480 did his Star Trek movies. 862 00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.760 Oh, let's bring in Leonard Nimoy. Let's honor him and. 863 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.079 Do something similar. I would have liked that as a fan. 864 00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:31.880 I don't know that would have mattered that much. 865 00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.480 But yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, well it's nice. Yeah, 866 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:40.440 someone going in, who's well a story that feels like 867 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:44.320 a little opposite of what you're saying. Apparently, one of 868 00:44:44.360 --> 00:44:46.639 the original directors of a lot of the episodes of 869 00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:50.480 the original Mission Impossible, Yeah, I was asked by Paramount 870 00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.599 to be on set just as sort of a consultant, 871 00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:56.760 and apparently Di Palma spoke with him and was like, hey, man, 872 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:59.920 love the original series, but what we're doing is nothing 873 00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:02.480 like the show and probably just gonna make both of 874 00:45:02.519 --> 00:45:05.519 us uncomfortable having you here. And so apparently the director 875 00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.320 was like, understood, thank you for your honesty, and ya 876 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:09.239 left set. 877 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.480 Yeah, And and that makes sense because because the TV 878 00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:19.480 show excelled at at doing these little episodic, little mini plays, 879 00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.400 you know, right, and and it is different. So I 880 00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:25.920 don't know that that instinct by the studio was very 881 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.000 smart because because somebody like Brian de Palma has a 882 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:32.800 very clear creative sensibility. So so if you hire him, 883 00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:37.239 it's because you want whatever he brings, right right, you know. 884 00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.639 But but that all being said, I I do think 885 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:43.800 De paulm is somebody who benefits from some limitations, sure, 886 00:45:44.519 --> 00:45:46.880 you know, And and I think The Intouchible is a 887 00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.320 good example of that. I've never been a big fan 888 00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:51.039 of Scarface. 889 00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:58.519 Yeah, I have not seen that since my early twenties. Yeah, 890 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:02.280 I don't really remember it super well. But yeah, I 891 00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:03.960 remember it not being exactly my thing. 892 00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:06.639 It's not my thing, and I know people who like 893 00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.239 it a great deal, but yeah, it doesn't really do 894 00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:18.159 much for me. Yeah, yeah, excess a little too much. Yeah, So. 895 00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:21.400 Tell me what you think about this plot. So now 896 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.239 we have I mean, we have a lot going on 897 00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:26.960 at this point, yes, right, where like his team has 898 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.639 been taken out and there's like apparently a mole who's 899 00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.000 working with this arms dealer to sell a knock list, 900 00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:39.159 and now Ethan's been set up, they think it's him, 901 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:41.000 and so he's going to go meet with the dealer 902 00:46:41.199 --> 00:46:44.559 to try to suss out or be called smoke out 903 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:51.039 the true mole. Yeah, is this plot overly complicated? I mean, 904 00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:52.880 and I don't mean that to sound like are we 905 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:56.719 smarter whatever than whatever? But like have movies become more complicated? 906 00:46:56.760 --> 00:46:58.760 I guess is what I'm saying, because I did watch 907 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:02.360 this again weeks ago, being like, Okay, I do remember 908 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.400 this being a little tricky to follow, but I'm really 909 00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.960 going to try to like listen to every word and 910 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.800 see if I can absolutely understand it as it goes. 911 00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:13.119 Do you think it's a little too complicated for its 912 00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:16.960 own good? Or do you think it's it feels about right? 913 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.239 So I'm up two minds. I I I don't think 914 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.280 once once you have the high level, I don't think 915 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:28.480 it's particularly it's you know, it's it's not that hard 916 00:47:28.519 --> 00:47:33.679 to follow. I do think that they try to be 917 00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:36.280 a little too clever by by trying to make it 918 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:37.719 seem more complicated than it is. 919 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:39.800 I I think I one hundred percent agree with what 920 00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:41.519 you're saying, right, yeah. 921 00:47:41.599 --> 00:47:45.280 Because I I what I said before was like way 922 00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.440 back in the day, like like thirty years ago, is 923 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:49.599 when I wash it. I was like, okay, so wait this, 924 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:54.440 and then he's doing that and they're looking for that, okay, whatever, 925 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.559 Like yeah, once, once you put it all together. 926 00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:57.920 It's it. 927 00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.559 It doesn't mean very much. And I I don't I 928 00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:03.480 think that's fine. I think what the Mission Impossible movies 929 00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:07.840 figured out is we don't really care that much about 930 00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:13.159 the thing. Just tell us the thing you're after. Yeah, right, yeah, 931 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.639 And I think you know, the third one is a 932 00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.519 good example where the whole, the whole mcguffin driving the 933 00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:21.719 whole story is this thing called the rabbit's foot And 934 00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:25.320 do we even really know what the rabbit's foot is? Not? Really? Yeah, 935 00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:26.119 And it doesn't matter. 936 00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:26.920 I mean, it's pure. 937 00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:29.840 I mean it's ironic to me because de paulm is 938 00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:34.239 such a student of Hitchcock, and and what Hitchcock figured 939 00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.440 out is it just don't you don't need to go 940 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:39.000 into all of it. Nobody cares. All we need to 941 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.400 care about is that the characters want it yep. 942 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.280 Yep, and that the joy of how difficult it is 943 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:45.840 for them to get it. Yeah. 944 00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.599 So you know, all this stuff and the and the 945 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:51.920 and the job is doing this and it's a lot 946 00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.840 of like it's just it's trying to make you invested 947 00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:56.519 in in it, and I don't. I don't think it 948 00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:58.280 matters a big picture. I don't think it's enough to 949 00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:02.480 distract and to detract from the movie. Yeah, but it's 950 00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:04.519 definitely a lesson the other films learned. 951 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:09.119 I think. Yeah, there is a lot more talking in 952 00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.440 this movie. It moves at a slower pace. And it's 953 00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:14.320 funny because we talk about that often going back in 954 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:19.039 different decades, just people were willing to deal with either 955 00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:24.719 less action or just different kinds of execution, you know, 956 00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:27.159 things that now we find a little disorienting. It's like, well, 957 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:28.960 I don't know, no one seemed to complain in the seventies, 958 00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:30.639 you know, but like it's not how we would do 959 00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:34.920 it now. And I don't remember what this was like 960 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.679 in the nineties. I don't remember finding any of it boring. 961 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.000 And I don't necessarily now, but this is not what 962 00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.360 a Mission Impossible movie would be paced like in twenty 963 00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:44.079 twenty five. 964 00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:47.199 Right, So I can appreciate that it's a little different. 965 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:51.800 You know. I think anybody who's going in expecting to 966 00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:56.800 see Tom Cruise, you know, defying death, might be disappointed. 967 00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:02.760 But I find it charming because of what it led 968 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:08.880 to totally. You know, I think I think this character 969 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:12.079 Max could have been very boring, but you cast somebody 970 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:14.880 like Vanessa Redgrave and she brings kind of this unique energy, 971 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:15.159 you know. 972 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:19.599 Yeah, I was read that it was a written for 973 00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.840 a man. Yeah, and I'm glad that they did what 974 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.400 they did, because, yeah, she has this really interesting energy. 975 00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:29.400 She's got this real sort of sexual, flirty energy, which 976 00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:33.880 is fun. You know, She's just constantly flirting with She's 977 00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:36.239 like in control and flirting with Cruise, and that's just 978 00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:37.119 kind of fun to watch. 979 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:41.840 And she's the she's the mother of the Vanessa Kirby character. 980 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.639 Right, Oh that's right, I forgot about it. Just pretty 981 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:48.039 cool connection. I love this. By the way, again, this 982 00:50:48.119 --> 00:50:51.000 is so sort of old fashioned or something, but it's 983 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.719 just so effective. The tension of this, you know, is 984 00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:56.239 this does this thing have a tracker in it, you know, 985 00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.039 and reading heat signatures. And then we're seeing you know, 986 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.400 he's like you got two minutes and nobody knows if 987 00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:03.559 that's true or not. And then we're seeing these people. 988 00:51:04.039 --> 00:51:07.199 It's kind of like this really sinister looking group of 989 00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:10.800 people in these like plastic raincades. It's like, good, what 990 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:15.320 are they gonna do? You know, coming in suits in 991 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:18.440 plastic rain white plastic raincoats. It makes me think of 992 00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.119 like American Psycho or something like that, that he's about 993 00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:24.880 to go down. But yeah, the tension of that, like 994 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:26.960 can we believe them or not? And then we realize, oh, 995 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.039 they are closing in. Is she going to believe them 996 00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:31.800 so they can get out of there? See? I I 997 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:32.320 think this. 998 00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:37.039 So what what I wasn't crazy about with both this 999 00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:42.199 movie and the second one is that it it was 1000 00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:46.159 it was like the Tom Cruise Show. Uh huh? And 1001 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:49.559 what what I I didn't like that there wasn't really 1002 00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:54.760 a team dynamic, right, Yes, it's it's that's less apparent 1003 00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:56.719 in this It was certainly the case in the second one. 1004 00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.960 Yeah, yeah, which, like you, I think I've only seen 1005 00:52:00.159 --> 00:52:03.280 twice so I remember, Yeah, big moments more than the 1006 00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:04.159 story itself. 1007 00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:05.960 But I watched it in the theater when it came 1008 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.880 out back in back in Uh was it two thousand 1009 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.719 and one or two? I think it's two thousand. It's 1010 00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:13.960 two thousand, okay. And then I watched it again a 1011 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:15.599 couple of years ago, and literally my kids are like, oh, 1012 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:17.360 let's go through all the mintion ipossbles. Not the second 1013 00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.760 one though, that was Oh wow, that's there on their own. 1014 00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:22.960 I'm like, there's no argument for me. 1015 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.440 See, I know what how I would describe it. I'm 1016 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:28.480 curious what your kids would how they would describe why 1017 00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:29.199 they don't like it. 1018 00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:36.320 I I well, all the yeah, all all the the 1019 00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.960 the sort of garish turn of the century excess that 1020 00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.119 typified action cinema at that moment is just like boiled 1021 00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.599 into that movie. It's it's like the the Schmutz that 1022 00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:50.199 you put in your drain to catch everything, you know, 1023 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.400 like the everything in your sinc just ends up there. 1024 00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.199 That's a mission impossible too, in terms of like action 1025 00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:57.960 movie cliches, you know. 1026 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.159 Yeah, yeah, it's like heavy on a Durst screen in 1027 00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:01.360 your face for two hours. 1028 00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.320 You got your Fred Durst screaming, you got your Hans 1029 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.960 zimmer phoning, you got your you got your doves, because 1030 00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:11.239 why the hell not flying at your head? You know, 1031 00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:13.920 you got Tom Cruise hanging from a mountain for whatever reason, 1032 00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:14.159 you know. 1033 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:14.760 And it's just. 1034 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:19.440 And again, I think that movie was very successful when 1035 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:21.360 it came out. Yeah, oh, I mean it was of 1036 00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:23.760 its moment, and the moment was grateful. 1037 00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:25.639 Right, right. 1038 00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.000 And the ironic thing is that the third one was 1039 00:53:28.159 --> 00:53:30.519 not as successful, and so there was a little bit 1040 00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:33.280 of like, oh, it's the franchise dead right, right, and 1041 00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:36.719 and yet and yet Tom Cruise and company they took 1042 00:53:36.760 --> 00:53:38.840 their lesson from. 1043 00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:41.760 From the the. 1044 00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:43.599 Third one in terms of what we want to keep doing. 1045 00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:44.239 Hm. 1046 00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:50.039 So in my opinion, four, five and six is like 1047 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:51.239 peak mission impossible. 1048 00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.480 Yeah, I agree with that. Like that trilogy. 1049 00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:56.880 If I were to say the three to watch, it's 1050 00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:01.079 it's Ghost Protocol, Rogue Nation, Fallout one hund percent, right, 1051 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:05.960 and and you don't get those three without everything that 1052 00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:10.079 you figure out from the previous three. Yeah, sure, so 1053 00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.480 you know that that's how we get here, you know, yep? Yeah, 1054 00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:15.239 But yeah, three. 1055 00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:18.840 Turned Ethan into a little bit more three dimensional of 1056 00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:19.360 a person. 1057 00:54:19.840 --> 00:54:23.199 Yeah right, Well that's kind of the thing, right because Yeah, 1058 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:28.199 because because you know, if you watch the television show me, you. 1059 00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:31.039 Don't know anything about the characters, right other than their 1060 00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:32.800 their role in the in. 1061 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:36.519 The gang, you know, right, And you realize you can't 1062 00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:40.719 really do that in movies and and this one other 1063 00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.840 than Ethan having a mom and an uncle who are poor. 1064 00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.119 Yeah, which I'd kind of forgotten about. Yeah, we do 1065 00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:52.239 get a little glimpse in Home Life, a very little glimpse. 1066 00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:55.039 Yeah, but we don't know anything about him in the 1067 00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:57.679 second one other than he's got just a you know, 1068 00:54:57.760 --> 00:54:59.440 a luxurious mop of hair. 1069 00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:03.800 That flips. 1070 00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:09.800 It is funny to follow his hair trajectory in these movies. 1071 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.360 Yeah, you know, I we haven't as of the recording, 1072 00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.880 we haven't seen the final Reckoning yet, but I was 1073 00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:22.800 a little surprised at how scraggly it looks. I mean, 1074 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:29.079 I'd take it, but being Raims completely looks like Marcel's 1075 00:55:29.079 --> 00:55:32.079 Wallace right here, doesn't he? Right? That little uh what 1076 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:32.599 do you call that? 1077 00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:36.320 The what's that funny expression for the little blow the 1078 00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.119 lip hair? Oh? 1079 00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:40.039 The yeah, what is that called? Yeah, it's got a 1080 00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:42.239 funny name. I can't think of right now. Oh shoot, yeah, 1081 00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.960 isn't that funny, wow, because nobody has them anymore. People 1082 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.719 don't so Patch, well, well so Patch, but there's something 1083 00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:53.039 else esque. Yeah right, but like those those big wrap 1084 00:55:53.079 --> 00:55:56.760 around sunglasses, the turtle neck and the suit. He's a 1085 00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.960 well and this is what two years after pulp fiction 1086 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:01.800 and so help fiction is ninety four? Right, yeah? 1087 00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:04.800 Yeah, So ving Raiams was kind of kind of having 1088 00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:10.440 a moment here. I think I think he's you can't 1089 00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:13.760 you know, you can't imagine him not being in these movies. 1090 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:18.639 Oh yeah, yeah, right, Like that's the that's the fun 1091 00:56:18.679 --> 00:56:21.920 of it here, because because Luther is you know, he's 1092 00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:23.119 an important part of this film. 1093 00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.079 But if he had he not come back, we. 1094 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.360 Would have just gotten on with our lives, right, sure, 1095 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:30.599 but eight movies deep you're like, no, no, Luther is 1096 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:32.320 the heart and soul of this whole operation. 1097 00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:35.239 Yeah. Well, and I thought I had read somewhere I 1098 00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:37.840 couldn't find it in my recent research, but that they 1099 00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:43.599 were going to possibly kill him off, and he was like, nope. 1100 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.079 Yeah for it. I think that was for a fallout 1101 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:45.760 if I recall. 1102 00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:49.079 Oh, okay, so it was later, but yeah, but yes, smart, 1103 00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:50.599 as long as they're going to keep making these things 1104 00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:54.280 be like, insist you be in them. Yeah, but I 1105 00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:57.159 also did read that the reason they went with him 1106 00:56:57.239 --> 00:57:00.000 is because it felt against type for a computer hack, 1107 00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.800 because typically you think of like Seth Green or something 1108 00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:07.400 kind of like a geeky kid, you know, making like 1109 00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:11.880 comic book references and everyone being like come on right, 1110 00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.239 you know, like Dink or whatever his funny name would be. 1111 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.599 You know, like he's like, I'm more as fast as 1112 00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:20.599 I can clink come clink on his laptop. This feels 1113 00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:24.440 like such a different type of hacker, but it totally works, 1114 00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:26.440 and I love it. I can't remember which movie it is, Oh, 1115 00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:29.800 this is the one where he says my conditions are 1116 00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.960 I get to keep my equipment, which I love. You know. 1117 00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:37.800 It's like, yeah, he's a type geek. That makes sense. Yeah, 1118 00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:39.679 but he does feel like he could be the muscle 1119 00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:42.320 also if you needed him too, but he rarely is. 1120 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:46.679 Yeah. Well, and I think well, first of all, the 1121 00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:50.360 thought I had later during this upcoming Seegerther, I was like, wow, 1122 00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:51.760 is he the first man in the chair? 1123 00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:54.199 Right? 1124 00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:55.079 Yeah? 1125 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:55.840 That's good? Yeah? 1126 00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.320 Is that his like a little asterisk in history? 1127 00:57:58.360 --> 00:57:59.840 You know that's funny. 1128 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:04.000 But but you know, obviously Simon Peg comes in in 1129 00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:08.400 the in the third one and you realize, like, like 1130 00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:11.119 that that's what's missing. There's like a Simon Pegg sized 1131 00:58:11.159 --> 00:58:15.079 hole in this movie. Yeah, yeah, kind of right, comic relief. Yeah, 1132 00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:18.880 because like Ethan, Benji and Luther are like they're the 1133 00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:23.760 the core three mm hmm, and and it's like, oh, hey, 1134 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:25.119 that's who we're waiting for, you know. 1135 00:58:25.840 --> 00:58:30.760 Mm hmm. So now we're getting to the signature set 1136 00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:32.119 piece of this film. 1137 00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:36.079 Right, isn't that amazing? This? If anybody remembers anything from 1138 00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:39.239 this movie, it's probably Tom Cruise dangling in this room, right, 1139 00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:43.559 And I wash, Yeah, you don't know, please, I think 1140 00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:44.880 we're gonna say the same thing. I mean it. It 1141 00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:47.079 is absolutely gripping. I mean you lean forward in your 1142 00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:49.920 seat with every with every that you hear. 1143 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:53.519 You know. I think this remains one of the top 1144 00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:56.800 set pieces in the entire series. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, 1145 00:58:56.840 --> 00:59:00.480 And I mean it was thrilling watch this in a 1146 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:06.000 theater again recently, and nobody was making a sound, you know, 1147 00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:09.239 like everyone is like sort of respecting what's happening, holding 1148 00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:12.519 their own breath. It's just so breathtaking. 1149 00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:14.800 The sequence, it's it's well, I would think it's it's like, 1150 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:18.119 it's like the quiet place, nobody even wants to chew popcorn. 1151 00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:20.599 Too exactly exactly, but I love this is one of 1152 00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:22.880 my favorite things. I know, heist movies sometimes can get 1153 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:25.559 a bad rap from I'm gonna call them cynical people, 1154 00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:32.400 But is there anything more fun than someone setting up 1155 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:38.400 the impossible stakes and us watching what they're describing and thinking, well, 1156 00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.639 there's no way our hero can get the thing out 1157 00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.199 of that, but we're about to watch them do it. 1158 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:49.840 You know, that's interesting. I love it. I I those 1159 00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:51.719 are my favorite types of things. 1160 00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:56.599 Yeah. And and here's here's the thing about about the 1161 00:59:56.639 --> 00:59:59.599 sequence in that computer room. The logical part of you 1162 00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:01.599 is like, why would there not be a camera in there? 1163 01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:04.880 That happens to me a lot in films. Actually, yes, 1164 01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:10.719 and you roll with it. Yeah, yeah, but I think 1165 01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:12.239 the genius you don't think about it. 1166 01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:17.280 No, No, in actuality, it's like, well, this this room 1167 01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:19.679 has every precaution known to man, and you don't put 1168 01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.199 a camera in there, but you will allow what's in 1169 01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:26.119 there to be a mystery. Right. Yeah, that's well. I 1170 01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:29.239 thought that a lot during severance because there's a lot 1171 01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:32.639 you know, Oh sure, it's so important what these people 1172 01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:34.800 are doing in there, and they have all this technology, 1173 01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:37.760 but yet they're able to go to so many rooms 1174 01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:39.840 and have these secret convos. And I'm like, really, there's 1175 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:45.400 no cameras anywhere in this mysterious but yeah, but I 1176 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:48.679 love it. It's like, oh, it's you know, temperature controlled 1177 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:50.679 and you can't touch the floor, and like just all 1178 01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:53.719 the things are going to make this difficult. It's just 1179 01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:55.519 it's so fun. It's like, all right, well, let's see 1180 01:00:55.519 --> 01:00:56.039 how he does it. 1181 01:00:56.440 --> 01:01:01.039 Yeah, oh and it becomes yeah, sorry quick. I looked 1182 01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:04.480 up about about uh Luther and dying in this movie, 1183 01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.840 and apparently this is according to Ving Raams, Luther was 1184 01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:10.119 supposed to be part of the im force that dies 1185 01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:13.639 in the beginning of the movie. Uh so fifteen minutes 1186 01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:16.880 he would have been croaked, okay, And and he was. 1187 01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:19.119 Like, why are you kill the only black man? 1188 01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:22.440 Ah? There you go, and and and kudos to him 1189 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:24.239 for saying that, because guess what he got like a 1190 01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:25.360 thirty year career. 1191 01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:32.599 Yeah yeah, and spokesperson for Arby's. So he has an 1192 01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:34.039 extra place in my heart. 1193 01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:38.199 There you go. Remember he was in that Kojak reboot 1194 01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:40.679 that they did remember that oh. 1195 01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:42.719 You saying it is the only thing that makes me 1196 01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:45.719 remember it kind I don't mean as an insult, I 1197 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:49.000 just I can't even way. Yeah, I remember it happening, 1198 01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:54.119 but it obviously didn't make an impression on me. This 1199 01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:58.159 poor guy, this guy. Could you have cast a better person, just. 1200 01:01:58.079 --> 01:01:59.039 A poor schmuck? 1201 01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:02.239 Yeah, you know, but it really does kind of shine 1202 01:02:02.280 --> 01:02:06.199 a light on casting because he doesn't say barely anything. 1203 01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:11.079 But I remember him from this sequence. I remember his face, 1204 01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.840 I remember his expressions, and he's not even doing anything big, 1205 01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.960 but he's the perfect sad, sort of patsy figure, you 1206 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:18.360 know for this. 1207 01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:21.519 You know what's funny is one thing by the So 1208 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.880 there's the knife, so that we see Ethan actually see 1209 01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:26.880 the knife. I remember that kick where Ethan kicks the 1210 01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:30.639 cop backwards that was in all the trailers to make 1211 01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:33.400 you think this was just an action extravaganza, you know, 1212 01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.599 oh oh right, yeah, And it's like, boy, if you're 1213 01:02:36.639 --> 01:02:40.079 going in expecting just just a bunch of backwards kicking, 1214 01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:45.079 you gotta wait four years for the next movie. That's 1215 01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:47.719 really it. But no, no, when I see this guy. 1216 01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:50.719 William Dumlow is the character's name, and he's having a 1217 01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.679 run back across because I'm assuming he's got diarrhea. 1218 01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:54.840 Yeah yeah, And. 1219 01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:56.280 You know, this is where my brain goes. I'm like, 1220 01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:59.039 is there anything worse than having diarrhea when you're wearing 1221 01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:00.280 like a nice suit. 1222 01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.159 Dude, and at work? Right? 1223 01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:04.719 Yeah? 1224 01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:07.159 Yeah, no, seriously, that's what I think about it. 1225 01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.840 I'm like, I'm like, there's like levels of badness, and 1226 01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:13.239 I think diarrhea at work while wearing nice suit that's 1227 01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:16.559 like pretty high on the list of things Zaki does 1228 01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:19.719 not want to experience. Dude, that's yeah. 1229 01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:23.239 Yeah, but you know he could be like I don't know, 1230 01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:27.679 I'm just impressed with where they landed with this guy, 1231 01:03:27.719 --> 01:03:29.719 because he could be a sort of pathetic too. 1232 01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:32.880 Like oh my tummy or something, you know, like running across. 1233 01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:35.239 He could be the guy from from No Holds Barred 1234 01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:39.000 where he's like dukie exactly, Like he. 1235 01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.480 Could be pathetic, but instead we're just like all this 1236 01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:44.400 poor guy. You know, that's the. 1237 01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:48.280 Real reason to hate Claire, to be honest, she's just 1238 01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:50.760 a villain everything. But she she gave my man the runs. 1239 01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:52.760 I know, come on, that ain't right. 1240 01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:56.039 But then yeah, this is like that low fi spycraft, right, 1241 01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:59.039 like putting like a little felt tracker on his suits, 1242 01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:03.360 and she's got the pin that squirts the whatever the 1243 01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:06.039 x lax in his drink or whatever, you know. Like 1244 01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:09.000 I you're right when you bring up the kick and 1245 01:04:09.079 --> 01:04:10.960 it being misleading in the trailers. I guess when I 1246 01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:13.679 think of this movie, I do think of it as like, yeah, 1247 01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.079 action film or whatever it is, but it really isn't. 1248 01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:20.920 It's not. Yeah, it's kind of a thriller, you know, 1249 01:04:21.079 --> 01:04:22.519 like a low key thriller. 1250 01:04:22.559 --> 01:04:25.119 Even now, I will say this movie, along with the 1251 01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.960 original Diehard, gave me a vastly distorted view of how 1252 01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:34.039 big air ducts are and how clean they must be exactly. 1253 01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:37.000 Yeah, dude, this thing is awesome. By the way that 1254 01:04:37.079 --> 01:04:43.280 he lowers to redirect the laser security system, I love 1255 01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:46.000 he just drops it down and immediately it redirects him 1256 01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:48.679 into one solid beam that he can avoid. That's very cool. 1257 01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:53.400 Yep. Well, and that little dudead that takes the screws out, 1258 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:54.119 I love that too. 1259 01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:56.920 Yeah, you know, that feels like something in this day 1260 01:04:56.920 --> 01:04:59.000 and age you could possibly buy. I would like to 1261 01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:02.760 have one of those. Yeah, But here's what I'm talking about, 1262 01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:06.320 where it's just all the different you know, you can't 1263 01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:08.480 make a sound above this decibel and you can't do 1264 01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:11.039 stuff like that. I just eat up. I mean it, 1265 01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:16.239 and it is. It's not super crazy futuristic stuff that 1266 01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:18.239 we're dealing with here. It's like, no, literally, just don't 1267 01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:22.639 make a sound, don't touch the ground. And it reminds 1268 01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:27.000 me of sneakers, you know, where it's Robert Redford has 1269 01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:30.519 to get that box off of a desk. But it's like, look, yeah, 1270 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:33.039 oh yeah. The room has to be a certain temperature, 1271 01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:35.280 so you can't get hotter or colder than this, and 1272 01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:40.159 you can't move, you know, above a really slow stride 1273 01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:43.800 across the room, and yet everybody is coming after you, 1274 01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:47.400 So do that as quickly, move as slowly as possible, 1275 01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:50.760 as quickly as possible, you know. And it's so low fi, 1276 01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:54.159 but it is gripping, you know. Yeah. 1277 01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:58.119 I think this entire sequence here is really a masterpiece 1278 01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:01.800 of sound design. Yes, right, And when you think about it, right, 1279 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.760 the instinct might have been on the part of Danny 1280 01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:09.639 Elfman to give some kind of ominous underscore, Yeah, but 1281 01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.199 I think it works so much better because it's completely 1282 01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:13.519 music free, you know. 1283 01:06:13.679 --> 01:06:16.079 Yeah, it's sort of like a dun dun, duh, huh 1284 01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:17.840 kind of a thing. But yeah, you know we're hearing 1285 01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:21.840 the rope yeap going through the pulley. You know, we 1286 01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:25.320 hear breaths straining to be held. 1287 01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:26.960 It's so good. 1288 01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:31.239 But I think, well, we're talking about this living on 1289 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:34.360 I mean, just the iconography of this room. It's very 1290 01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:37.000 like two thousand and one, you know, like the lights, 1291 01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:40.760 white light, lit up floor or whatever. But it's just 1292 01:06:40.920 --> 01:06:43.039 so memorable. And I feel like there was a cable 1293 01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:47.079 company I don't remember which one that even had like 1294 01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:49.000 a recreation of this on the side of their van. 1295 01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:51.639 And it's like, isn't that funny just to oh, that's 1296 01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:56.159 random called it such a specific scene. Just wow, everyone remembers. 1297 01:06:56.280 --> 01:07:00.880 But it's worth noting that this is uh heavily inspired 1298 01:07:01.159 --> 01:07:05.119 by a sequence in the movie Top Copy. Okay, have 1299 01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:07.840 you heard of that. I've heard of it, Yeah, I hadn't. 1300 01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.800 I So I was just reading about this film, and 1301 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.559 so I watched the scene on YouTube and it is 1302 01:07:13.639 --> 01:07:18.599 this scene like a sweaty guy struggling with a pulley system, 1303 01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:22.159 lowering a person who has to be deadly quiet, having 1304 01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:24.639 to pull something, you know, out of a museum. So 1305 01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:28.000 I mean, it's literally an homage to that sequence, but 1306 01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:29.119 it's uh. 1307 01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:31.840 Yeah, I mean that that's from the sixties, I think, right, yeah, yeah, 1308 01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:35.440 but Peter Ustinov. 1309 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:38.880 Was, yeah, it's very good. But this, I mean, this 1310 01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:40.719 is just taking that and running with it. I mean, 1311 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:44.719 what incredible is this shot from above with our hero 1312 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:48.840 in frame being quiet, quiet, swinging over the guy we 1313 01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:50.800 don't want to see him? Well? 1314 01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:54.400 And I love that, Like you say, like, how can 1315 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:55.599 he not see him? And it's like, okay, but why 1316 01:07:55.639 --> 01:07:57.599 would he look up? Like why would it? 1317 01:07:58.079 --> 01:08:01.840 Right? Yeah, it's like Shawshank right where he walks out 1318 01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:04.960 of the prison wearing or no, he finishes his duties 1319 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:08.519 on his last night wearing those dress up shoes and 1320 01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:10.119 you're like, well, how would they not notice? And then 1321 01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:12.400 Freeman's like, yeah, but how often do you really look 1322 01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:16.000 at I got shoes? Yeah exactly. Yeah. See, now that's 1323 01:08:16.039 --> 01:08:18.039 DiPalma right there. I mean we get that split what 1324 01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:21.760 do you call it, split diopter kind of thing. That's 1325 01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:24.039 what you bring him in for that incredible shot of 1326 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.600 low angle of our sick person with crews also in 1327 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.359 focus way above him in the ceiling. 1328 01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.600 Yeah, that kind of crazy specific tension that di Palma does. 1329 01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:37.199 Stuff. 1330 01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.039 By the way, he's barfing, so he doesn't necessarily have diarrhea. 1331 01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:42.760 But I'm gonna say either way, whether it's coming out 1332 01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.199 from that hole or the other hole, going to be 1333 01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:46.159 doing that in a suit. 1334 01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:49.840 Exactly, I'd love it's just not just the alone, but 1335 01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:53.800 in a suit, it's just somehow makes up wherese he 1336 01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:56.520 got like your top button his buttons. 1337 01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:00.239 Yeah, it's a lot of discomfort. There's a lot of 1338 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.520 layers before you can just unleash, you know. 1339 01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.319 Yeah, you're probably sweaty and cold at the same time. 1340 01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:07.199 Now you gotta wear it the rest of the day. 1341 01:09:08.359 --> 01:09:09.439 That's terrible, you know. 1342 01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:10.439 Yeah. Yeah. 1343 01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:13.600 So I remember this sequence being made fun of in 1344 01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:16.479 a Leslie Nielsen movie and. 1345 01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:18.359 I don't remember that, and I can't. 1346 01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:23.279 I think it was the Spy Hard parody. I don't 1347 01:09:23.279 --> 01:09:26.720 think it was Spy Hard wrongly accused, wrongfully accused, right, 1348 01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:29.119 And I'm trying to see if I had the interest, 1349 01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:32.520 I would look up. But I remember it's he's he's 1350 01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:34.520 being lowered down than he does, like the thing with 1351 01:09:34.600 --> 01:09:37.640 a yo yo, where he's doing all kinds of tricks. 1352 01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:40.479 I don't know, I don't know. I remember that I 1353 01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:44.119 remember that one because it had that Usual Suspects parody. 1354 01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:46.880 Oh dude, that is one of the funniest things I've 1355 01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:49.560 ever seen. Yeah, it cracks me up every single time. 1356 01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:51.079 Man. You know, I wonder if it'd be worth, like, 1357 01:09:51.159 --> 01:09:53.159 knowing what you're getting into, I wonder if it'd be 1358 01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:54.319 worth going back to that and just. 1359 01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:57.640 Well, So here's what I'll say, Leslie Nielsen did a 1360 01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:00.039 lot of shit that if it wasn't naked gun, I 1361 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:02.760 would say, wrongfully accused is on the better end of that, 1362 01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:06.399 the non naked gun spectrum. Okay, okay, So for whatever 1363 01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:10.640 that's worth. Yeah. See, So this, this whole sequence what 1364 01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:14.159 I was saying earlier, is like it kind of illustrates 1365 01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:19.560 the genius of script construction, where it doesn't matter how 1366 01:10:20.159 --> 01:10:23.600 preposterous this room is. Oh it's got a laser this, 1367 01:10:23.680 --> 01:10:26.079 and it does that and all this stuff, right, if 1368 01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:28.720 you just lay it out for the audience, say this 1369 01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:32.760 is what is in there. Yeah, so it doesn't matter 1370 01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:34.760 how science fiction it sounds. You just lay it out. 1371 01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.680 This is what it is, and you are consistent with 1372 01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:40.199 what your character has to get past. 1373 01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:41.279 We'll go with it. 1374 01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:45.960 Mm hm you know, yep, yep, agreed. 1375 01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:51.640 This doesn't feel like for all the tools they have 1376 01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:54.880 available to them, just having a guy like here hold me. 1377 01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:58.199 It feels like, really, you don't have like some sort 1378 01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:00.560 of suction them up or something you can like attached 1379 01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:01.800 the rope to or come. 1380 01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:03.800 On, genre, No, you're a big, strong feller. 1381 01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:08.039 And it's kind of funny too with the mouse or 1382 01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:11.920 whatever that comes up to him. Yep, it does almost 1383 01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:13.720 feel like a Tom and Jerry sort of moment where 1384 01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:17.159 it's just like, wait a minute, what is this like 1385 01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:18.840 mouse doing in this event? 1386 01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:21.840 By the way, you know, what I read is that 1387 01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:26.199 Tom Cruise put coins in his shoes to keep. 1388 01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:29.840 From flipping over. Yeah, the balance wasn't working quite correctly 1389 01:11:30.800 --> 01:11:31.720 with the harness. 1390 01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:33.159 Is that a real thing? 1391 01:11:33.680 --> 01:11:37.039 I every place I went to read about this movie, 1392 01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:39.479 that is a fact that comes up or a trivia 1393 01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:40.239 point that comes like, I. 1394 01:11:40.239 --> 01:11:41.039 Don't understand that. 1395 01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:45.920 I kind of get it because the harness is uh 1396 01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:49.439 not necessarily at his midpoint, so maybe his feet were 1397 01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.239 bringing him down, so you literally just have like a 1398 01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.680 quarter in your shoe. Oh wait, no, I'd see exact 1399 01:11:56.680 --> 01:11:59.680 opposite of what I'm saying. You're right, I do somehow, Well, 1400 01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:01.800 maybe I don't know, he was more top heavy or something, 1401 01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:05.680 and so he just put weight in his shoes to 1402 01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:07.920 sort of see if he's say his shoes were weighted, 1403 01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:08.640 I'll go with you. 1404 01:12:08.680 --> 01:12:10.399 But you say he put coins in his shoes, That's 1405 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:11.319 what I'm not understanding. 1406 01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:13.600 Oh oh, I see, Well there we go. We have technowledge. 1407 01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:16.920 That's the that's the moment there. Yeah. 1408 01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.760 Right, so that Tom Cruise really did that. He actually 1409 01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:24.520 was was dropped and then caught mirror inches above the ground. 1410 01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:28.079 Incredible and keeping his balance right, waving his arms making 1411 01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:29.039 sure he doesn't touch the gring. 1412 01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:30.800 You know it's real because he has a real oh 1413 01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:31.880 shit face right there. 1414 01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:37.760 I mean, that's just it's iconic. Yeah, And like I said, 1415 01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:40.319 I mean watching it again with a crowd recently, I mean, 1416 01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:46.359 this holds up as thrilling as anything that's come out since. Hmm, okay, 1417 01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:49.039 so coins, you know what I wonder? Now? This is 1418 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.920 pretty good to the sweat. The sweat so good, and 1419 01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:55.239 it makes you laugh because it is kind of funny, 1420 01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:57.800 but you're also like, well, don't let it touch the ground. 1421 01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.319 Well, I love that when the drop hits his hand, 1422 01:13:02.279 --> 01:13:05.039 it sounds like somebody falling into the ocean. 1423 01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:09.560 Yes, yes, you know, you know you got to praise 1424 01:13:09.600 --> 01:13:14.640 the editing here too, balancing this guy going back and 1425 01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:18.319 forth between the bathroom and his office to make it 1426 01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:22.039 feel kind of realistic and not dragged out and almost comical. 1427 01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:29.000 That's true, right, I think it's perfectly calibrated. Actually, now 1428 01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:33.079 I just kind of want to watch this. Yeah, I 1429 01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:39.319 remember that. It's like catching the sept that's so good. 1430 01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:42.079 And then I love this too, the sort of the 1431 01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.399 silent getting him out of the room, right when the 1432 01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:47.119 guy looks in. Oh, so we got the dead rat 1433 01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:51.840 back there. Apparently we apparently he took care of it. Yeah, exactly. 1434 01:13:52.119 --> 01:13:55.800 I love that. Yeah, we didn't need to to spend 1435 01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:56.239 time on that. 1436 01:13:56.319 --> 01:13:57.000 We figure it out. 1437 01:13:57.439 --> 01:13:59.279 Yeah yeah, maybe a little too gross. 1438 01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:01.920 But there's not a knife on it. I mean, did 1439 01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:03.520 he snap its little neck or something like? 1440 01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:09.600 That's what that's what it looks like. Yeah, and this 1441 01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:12.960 is where the technology too. I was thinking, like nowadays 1442 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:14.800 you just have like a thumb drive or something. 1443 01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:17.479 Oh yeah, yeah, he's got what like a zip disc 1444 01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:18.119 here or something. 1445 01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:20.960 No, I mean that's an old school floppy, was that? 1446 01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:23.439 Yeah? Zip disc? 1447 01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:31.000 Even watching it, damn it, jumping that knife so close. 1448 01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:32.520 Yeah, that was cool. 1449 01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:38.119 I like that Sean re know, they're looking at each other. 1450 01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:38.760 It's so good. 1451 01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:43.039 And this poor guy, yeah, I mean he gets sent 1452 01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.960 to Alaska for y oh. 1453 01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:53.199 I felt so bad for him. Yeah, that's so wonderful though, 1454 01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:56.079 him coming back to it like the most secure office, 1455 01:14:56.760 --> 01:15:00.279 you know, in the world, and seeing this knife just 1456 01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:03.039 laying on the desk, but like stabbed into the desk. 1457 01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:04.760 That's right, what. 1458 01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:08.079 I mean? 1459 01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:11.199 Yeah, yeah, and then the lasers are back overhead, like 1460 01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:13.600 what just happened? Right? 1461 01:15:15.159 --> 01:15:15.680 So good? 1462 01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:18.199 But yeah, you're right, I forgot about that. They uh 1463 01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:20.279 put him on a desk in Alaska. 1464 01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:20.640 You know. 1465 01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:22.800 I would like to imagine that he met a nice 1466 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:26.800 woman there, you know, and then kind of rediscovered what 1467 01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:29.640 life was all about, and them and their dog walked 1468 01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:33.000 by like a nice icy creek every day and there 1469 01:15:33.039 --> 01:15:36.560 you go. So maybe this is like the best thing 1470 01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:38.000 that ever happened to him. That's what I want to 1471 01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:38.239 go with. 1472 01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:42.159 Well, he is in the Final Reckoning. 1473 01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:44.800 I saw because they put out character posters, right yeah, 1474 01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:47.479 and he got his own poster, and I was I 1475 01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:50.479 like lit up. That was like my marvel, Like you 1476 01:15:50.520 --> 01:15:54.279 know that such and such William Dunlow. Yeah, he's gonna 1477 01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:57.399 be appearing in the next mission. Impossible. Like, I'm so 1478 01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:00.279 excited to see how they use him. That's hilarious, maybe 1479 01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:02.039 because I just I love this sequence so much. 1480 01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:04.359 It'd be funny if I'm the poster. He has like 1481 01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:06.399 an eye patch and a cyborg hand and. 1482 01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:16.279 Oh shit, like what happened? Yes, now you're speaking my language. Man, 1483 01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:19.239 you're getting me like over excited. I'm not going to 1484 01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:19.960 get what I want. 1485 01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:25.199 Oh man, it's so good. 1486 01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:27.199 But yeah, so now Luther is sort of like what 1487 01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:32.199 as they're doing this, like we're stealing what Now, there's 1488 01:16:32.239 --> 01:16:33.960 a lot of faith they got to put in Ethan here. 1489 01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:42.600 This is a good scene, you're right, the close up 1490 01:16:42.640 --> 01:16:45.880 magic scene. Yes, yes, so we have a group, but 1491 01:16:45.880 --> 01:16:48.479 they're not a group. They're not a gang, right, they 1492 01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:51.319 don't trust each other. They don't even all know the plan, 1493 01:16:51.840 --> 01:16:54.760 that's right. So this is a well I guess that 1494 01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:58.000 sort of fits though, with him losing his team, like 1495 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.640 Ethan now on his own, and it's not like he's. 1496 01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:02.319 Gonna no that's what I'm saying. I mean, in the 1497 01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:05.159 context of this film, I don't mind it being sort 1498 01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:09.600 of Ethan centric. Yeah, and again I like that as 1499 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.039 a serious progress as Luther becomes the sort of like 1500 01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:15.439 he's Ethan's best friend clearly, and it's like he's like 1501 01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:16.279 his conscience. 1502 01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:16.840 Yep. 1503 01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:23.439 And I love seeing that. You know, Yeah, we should 1504 01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:25.399 say genre. No. He was having a moment at this 1505 01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:28.840 time too, because yeah, he was just off of Leon 1506 01:17:28.920 --> 01:17:33.079 the Professional yep. And then he I think Godzilla was 1507 01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:36.439 that was ninety eight, a couple of years after this, yep, yep, 1508 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:38.600 and I think we need we need more genre, no, 1509 01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:41.319 I said, I said this during our Godzilla commentary track. 1510 01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:43.960 I think I think he always he always adds a little, 1511 01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:45.800 a little something extra to whatever he's in. 1512 01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:48.159 Yeah, he's a great he's a great flavor, you know 1513 01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:50.119 what I mean, what he brings. 1514 01:17:51.399 --> 01:17:52.800 I'm looking it up. I feel like there's like one 1515 01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:57.640 other huge one Ronan. Oh, Ronan, I forgot about that. Yeah, 1516 01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:00.359 isn't there like some other huge blockbuster he was in 1517 01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:01.039 in this moment? 1518 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:04.319 Looking now, I. 1519 01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:06.520 Mean he's still doing this. Oh he's in the Five Bloods. 1520 01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:07.239 I forgot about that. 1521 01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:09.079 I think we watched that. 1522 01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:13.520 I remember really liking that Five Bloods was good. Yeah, 1523 01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:19.159 around this time, this is interesting. He was the French 1524 01:18:19.359 --> 01:18:20.479 voice of Mufasa. 1525 01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:23.600 Oh interesting, that's kind of interesting. 1526 01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:28.640 Yeah, yeah, I'm not seeing anything, not seeing anything major here, Yeah, 1527 01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:31.520 da Vinci code, that's all later. 1528 01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:32.800 Yeah. Pink Panther. 1529 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:35.640 He's in Pink Panther with Henry Cherney, which I thought 1530 01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:36.279 was very funny. 1531 01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:41.159 Oh funny, Yeah, huh interesting, it's funny. I feel like 1532 01:18:41.199 --> 01:18:46.520 I'm remembering him from more things than I actually do. Huh. 1533 01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:49.159 Anyway, well that's the impression he makes. 1534 01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:52.439 But so I was reading that. Yeah, this magic trick 1535 01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:56.960 was all practical, which kind of makes sense with Tom Cruise, right. See. 1536 01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:58.680 I kind of wish that they would have made that 1537 01:18:58.840 --> 01:19:01.239 a runner for EAT. Then, is every movie he does 1538 01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:03.199 some really stupid close up magic trick. 1539 01:19:05.359 --> 01:19:08.279 Yeah, although I will say this is quite impressive. This 1540 01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:11.720 is and it's cool. They don't cut right right, We 1541 01:19:11.800 --> 01:19:13.279 do the one shot so we can see him make 1542 01:19:13.319 --> 01:19:15.199 it disappear, and then he pulls it out of his pocket. 1543 01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:18.479 I think every movie should just have him. He's doing 1544 01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:21.039 like a random card trick and it's like really obnoxious 1545 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:23.439 at some point, and you see everyone sort of shift 1546 01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:25.279 in their seats like Okay, he's gonna do this for 1547 01:19:25.319 --> 01:19:34.279 like a minute and a half. Yeah, his team. Yeah, 1548 01:19:34.319 --> 01:19:35.920 that would be that would be his thing, that would 1549 01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:40.159 be his EPI kaye mother effort. Yeah, it's like, oh, 1550 01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:41.439 he's about to do the trick. 1551 01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:43.399 Like a trick that you could read from like a 1552 01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:44.159 magic book. 1553 01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:47.720 Yeah. Now, I don't know about you, but first time 1554 01:19:47.760 --> 01:19:49.359 I saw this, I was like Drake Hotel. 1555 01:19:49.439 --> 01:19:54.119 I know the Drake Hotel. Yeah, yeah, those be listening. 1556 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:56.119 It's a very famous Chicago place, you know. 1557 01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:59.199 But I assume most people don't know it. But I 1558 01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.199 just want to real before it passes. I do want 1559 01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:03.720 to talk about this magic trick scene. What I love 1560 01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:10.439 about it is it makes him look cool, yes, in 1561 01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:12.840 a way, because he looks in control when he's being 1562 01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:17.279 questioned by Renault. You know, he's he's in control, and 1563 01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:19.039 he kind of makes him look like a fool. But 1564 01:20:19.079 --> 01:20:23.960 then we reveal that Renault really did have the knucklist, 1565 01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:28.000 which makes our hero vulnerable. So we're sort of like, oh, 1566 01:20:28.359 --> 01:20:30.720 that was close. Like maybe he's not always in control, 1567 01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:33.720 but damn it, he's clever, you know what I mean. 1568 01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:37.039 Like that makes him an interesting hero, unlike what we 1569 01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:40.000 talk about with the like Hobbs and Shaw, where it's 1570 01:20:40.039 --> 01:20:42.439 like not only can I not lose a fight? I 1571 01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:44.760 cannot be punched, you know, more than five times? And 1572 01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:47.319 I got it. It's just like that's not interesting, right, 1573 01:20:48.159 --> 01:20:49.880 But this is I think this is a really cool 1574 01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:54.239 moment of vulnerability and improvisation for our hero. Yeah. 1575 01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:56.920 Yeah, well and this is and I don't want this 1576 01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.079 to just be dogging on the second one. But I 1577 01:20:59.079 --> 01:21:01.119 think that that's the inherent problem there is like, oh, 1578 01:21:01.159 --> 01:21:03.520 you can Hunt. There's not a single thing he can't do. 1579 01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:07.720 Look at him, you know, defy gravity in mid air 1580 01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:11.640 and stuff like that. Right, Whereas, like, to me, the 1581 01:21:11.760 --> 01:21:16.920 quintessential Ethan Hunt moment, in my opinion, is in Ghost 1582 01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:22.199 Protocol where he's climbing. He has to climb the Burg Khalifa, right, 1583 01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:25.600 most people would not see that. But he's like, well, 1584 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:27.800 I guess I gotta do this. And then and then 1585 01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:30.840 he he he needs to get a little high or something. 1586 01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:33.399 He doesn't have enough rope something like that. Yeah, and 1587 01:21:34.079 --> 01:21:37.079 Jeremy renders like, hey, you don't have enough rope or 1588 01:21:37.119 --> 01:21:40.840 whatever he says, and he's just like, no, shit, Yes, 1589 01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:41.720 I remember that. 1590 01:21:41.720 --> 01:21:42.840 That was such a great moment. 1591 01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:47.079 Yeah, like that to me, like that, that's like, you 1592 01:21:47.119 --> 01:21:49.520 know what It's like in the in the Temple sequence 1593 01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:54.039 in Raiders. What what typifies Indie's character is two things. 1594 01:21:54.119 --> 01:21:57.760 Number One, he does the swap out and oops, it 1595 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.279 wasn't enough yep. And now the boulders coming after it. 1596 01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:00.520 Right. 1597 01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:04.119 But then when he's escaping, he jumps across the thing, 1598 01:22:04.159 --> 01:22:07.680 he grabs the vine and he's safe. Oops, except now 1599 01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:10.960 he's falling further yep yep. So in other words, you 1600 01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:15.520 applaud his bravery, but also bro just can't. 1601 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:16.399 Catch a break yep. 1602 01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:20.920 Yeah, and that's why we love Indie, Yes, right, and 1603 01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:24.399 that's what you need. Like Ethan Hunt is doing amazingly 1604 01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:28.800 brave things, but also he's just slightly in over his head. 1605 01:22:29.039 --> 01:22:31.720 Yeah. Yeah, he's a human being. Yeah, he's not just 1606 01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:35.880 stealing and cool as he's yeah, repelling down the talls 1607 01:22:35.880 --> 01:22:37.279 building in the world exactly. 1608 01:22:37.319 --> 01:22:40.479 So it just no shit, that's what makes him relatable. 1609 01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:41.399 Yeah. Yeah. 1610 01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.920 The delivery is so good, yeah, exactly. 1611 01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:49.640 This was a plot point. You brought it up already, 1612 01:22:49.640 --> 01:22:51.600 but that I had forgotten when I was rewatching it 1613 01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:55.600 about his family getting arrested for making him look like 1614 01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:57.560 they were like drug dealers or something. That's right, and 1615 01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:01.159 it's just something kind of funny. I mean, because everyone 1616 01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:03.920 in this movie is kind of, you know, involved in 1617 01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:07.119 something big, you know, like a spy or you know, 1618 01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:09.000 heads of government or something like that. But then just 1619 01:23:09.039 --> 01:23:12.079 to see these two normal people being arrested on the news, 1620 01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:14.720 You're like, oh, the real world, you know, It's it's 1621 01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.039 kind of I like it. It's a good, it's a good. 1622 01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:20.680 It makes sense. It's a pressure point for hunt. 1623 01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:25.239 I mean that all being said, I mean eight movies deep, 1624 01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:27.760 how much do we really know about Ethan beyond this? 1625 01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:31.520 Yeah? I mean he gets a wife right in the 1626 01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:34.520 third one, and she he checks in on her from 1627 01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:36.399 time to time in the later movies. But that's kind 1628 01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:37.039 of it, right. 1629 01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:42.720 Right, Well, and he they separated, that's right, right, because 1630 01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:45.000 because which one was it that she came fallout? 1631 01:23:45.079 --> 01:23:47.600 That's a fun. Yeah, she kind of gives her blessing 1632 01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:48.960 in a way to the. 1633 01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.920 Characters get with Rebecca Ferguson. 1634 01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:55.880 Look, I get it, and then she like looks in camera, 1635 01:23:56.039 --> 01:24:01.119 we all get it. It's fine. We want this free. 1636 01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:12.119 Yeah, yeah, it's good. 1637 01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:15.000 I always do like that. The tracking calls thing too, 1638 01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:16.720 and when you always think they're going to hang up 1639 01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:18.319 in time, but when we they don't. It's like, no, 1640 01:24:18.399 --> 01:24:21.039 he wants us to know where he is. I'm like, oh, yeah, nice, 1641 01:24:23.039 --> 01:24:25.720 but yeah, this this feels very dream like, doesn't it. 1642 01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:26.159 It does. 1643 01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:29.560 But I remember watching this the perstime like, oh, hey, 1644 01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:32.399 Phelps is alive. That's great, that's great. Everybody, Hey, look, 1645 01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:39.039 Phelps is alive. I thank Christ, you know. And then 1646 01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:41.279 you watch this scene and you're like, well, god, damn it. 1647 01:24:43.359 --> 01:24:45.560 I went through a roller coaster of emotions in the 1648 01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:48.159 span of you know whatever. It was three minutes, you know, you. 1649 01:24:48.079 --> 01:24:50.800 Know, see, but this moment is really great. Oh it's 1650 01:24:50.840 --> 01:24:53.359 so good. I love when we see people what they're 1651 01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:56.479 thinking and there's no like harp letting us know it's 1652 01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:59.880 a thought. It just kind of it's punched into the film, 1653 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:02.279 you know, and it's just a real jarring sort of thing. 1654 01:25:02.359 --> 01:25:05.119 But it helps us understand, like, oh, we're in their 1655 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:07.479 mind now. So I like all this stuff here where 1656 01:25:07.479 --> 01:25:10.840 he's picturing. But it is a little dizzy ing, isn't it. 1657 01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:14.600 Where we're like, is this a is he hype hypothesizing? 1658 01:25:15.760 --> 01:25:18.600 Is he has he figured it out? Yeah? 1659 01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:22.279 So so this is the thing right in my My 1660 01:25:22.439 --> 01:25:25.439 sense is that as soon as Ethan saw the Drake 1661 01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:31.039 Hotel stamp. He figured out that that Phelps was the heel, right, 1662 01:25:32.600 --> 01:25:36.920 and so at this point he already knows he's a 1663 01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:37.680 bad guy. 1664 01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:42.680 Right, so he's he he's acting here, right. 1665 01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.399 So so Ethan is like, oh my god, it's Kittridge. 1666 01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:49.720 But obviously we we know Ethan knows it's not Kittridge 1667 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:52.960 because we're seeing his thoughts and it's all Phelps is 1668 01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:53.359 the one. 1669 01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:56.199 Doing it right, right, right. 1670 01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:57.319 But I love it. 1671 01:25:57.399 --> 01:25:59.560 I love that Phelps, you know. 1672 01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:02.239 He's like, Ethan's like, why would Katchers doing Phelps, Like, well, 1673 01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:04.000 he got sick of the government or whatever, and it's 1674 01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:08.640 like it's just it's all him. He's talking about himself. Yeah, yeah, 1675 01:26:08.680 --> 01:26:13.000 you know, yeah, John boyight, you son. 1676 01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:16.439 Of a bitch. I love later when he's like those 1677 01:26:16.520 --> 01:26:20.119 damn Gideons. You know what's funny. 1678 01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:25.920 I say that a lot. Really, if something doesn't go right, 1679 01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:29.600 I'm like those damn gideons, n gideons. 1680 01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:33.600 Yeah. I don't feel like you see it as much 1681 01:26:33.680 --> 01:26:35.520 these days, but it used to be whenever you go 1682 01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:37.880 to a hotel, like any hotel in the nation, there 1683 01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:41.640 would be a Bible in the drawer and it would 1684 01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:43.960 be by this organization. I don't know a lot about 1685 01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:47.960 them even who they are, but the Gideons, Yeah, they 1686 01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:51.279 would pay to have these Bibles just available in every 1687 01:26:51.359 --> 01:26:54.520 hotel room in the US or whatever. And so yeah, 1688 01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:57.960 that's that's how Ethan figured it out. He looks at 1689 01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:02.359 the Bible's that it has u the Drake hotel where 1690 01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:05.359 Phelps said he was recently, so we know that, and 1691 01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:07.000 Phelps even steals bibles. 1692 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:10.439 Where does it end with this guy kind of an 1693 01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:11.520 unholy monster? 1694 01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:20.319 Yeah, but yeah, this is good. I yeah, I love 1695 01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:20.880 I love. 1696 01:27:21.720 --> 01:27:23.840 I don't know what you could call it this trope 1697 01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:26.960 or something. Well what I what I love here is 1698 01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:31.520 that we're following his thought pattern. And then he's like, 1699 01:27:32.199 --> 01:27:35.560 well maybe it wasn't clear, so he like sees both ways. 1700 01:27:35.680 --> 01:27:37.359 I love that. I love that. And look doesn't she 1701 01:27:37.399 --> 01:27:39.760 look at camera here? She looks right at camera. Yeah, 1702 01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:42.399 with the split adapter thing. 1703 01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:48.119 With her come hither gaze. That is pretty cool and chilling. Right. 1704 01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:53.880 Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's why it threw me a little 1705 01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:56.159 bit is because he is still working out some of it. 1706 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:58.640 So we are seeing stuff he knows as fact, and 1707 01:27:58.720 --> 01:28:05.399 some of it he's still trying to yeah, but yeah, 1708 01:28:05.439 --> 01:28:08.760 so literally I remember watching this as a kid and 1709 01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:12.159 just being absolutely horrified, and to this day, I'm so 1710 01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:14.720 you know, people have their whole hashtag not my Luke 1711 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:17.159 thing about the last Yed. I f all them guys 1712 01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:19.520 this here hashtag not my Phelps. 1713 01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:23.760 There is no universe where the character from the TV 1714 01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:26.600 show would ever allow that to happen to his team. 1715 01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:29.920 I mean, obviously it makes for a twist you don't 1716 01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:33.439 see coming. Yeah, but no, I agree with you. I 1717 01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:37.359 think if I had loved the series, if I was 1718 01:28:37.359 --> 01:28:39.399 a fan of the series in nineteen ninety six and 1719 01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:41.000 came into this, I'd be pretty disappointed. 1720 01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:44.760 Yeah, and I think it's and again I should clarify, 1721 01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:47.800 I'm over it. So it's just because we're talking about 1722 01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:51.880 the movie. I think it's irrelevant to this story to 1723 01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:53.840 make him that character. So you just have him be 1724 01:28:54.920 --> 01:29:00.600 again John Voight n Like, it doesn't matter because all 1725 01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:02.399 we need to know is that he was a mentor 1726 01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:04.920 to Hunt and he turned against him. That's all you 1727 01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:07.399 need to make this story work, right. 1728 01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:13.039 You know? Yeah, yeah, but you know, what do you do? 1729 01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:17.960 What are you gonna do? By the way, just while 1730 01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:22.279 they're continuing this conversation. I was reading a lot about 1731 01:29:22.720 --> 01:29:26.600 Cruz Wagner Productions, Yes, right, which was kind of a 1732 01:29:26.640 --> 01:29:27.560 huge thing for a while. 1733 01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:29.720 I for a second, and then they split up for 1734 01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:30.319 whatever reason. 1735 01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:32.600 Yeah. So it was Tom Cruise and his longtime agent 1736 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:35.199 Paula Wagner. They formed a company in nineteen ninety two 1737 01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:38.520 called Cruz Wagner Productions. This was their first movie together, 1738 01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:43.600 and the over the span of that company's life, they 1739 01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:46.880 made like two point nine billion dollars in box office, 1740 01:29:47.279 --> 01:29:51.159 crazy and hugely successful, and they were teamed up with 1741 01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:55.920 Paramount for most of that. What I'm seeing here is 1742 01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:59.720 in August two thousand and six, some in the Redstone, 1743 01:30:00.199 --> 01:30:04.880 chairman of Viacom, he terminated the relationship with Tom Cruise 1744 01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:08.319 over the things he was saying about psychiatry and antidepressants. 1745 01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:11.359 And yeah, because there was a second there where everybody 1746 01:30:11.399 --> 01:30:12.119 hated Tom Cruise. 1747 01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:14.960 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. It's amazing how beloved 1748 01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:18.560 he is again because yeah, there was a real moment 1749 01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:22.319 where the world kind of turned on him. Yeah. 1750 01:30:22.359 --> 01:30:25.439 So my recollection is this and correct correct the timeline 1751 01:30:25.479 --> 01:30:28.760 if you need. But he was out promoting war the world. Yeah, 1752 01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:32.520 and that was when he he was. 1753 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:33.640 He told Matt. 1754 01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:39.119 Lower, like, Matt, you're being glib, right scientology, Yeah, it was, well, 1755 01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:43.560 it was about Brooks Shields talked about post what do 1756 01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:44.039 you call it? 1757 01:30:44.640 --> 01:30:45.760 Postpartum depression? 1758 01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:50.199 Yeah, and so he Tom Cruise criticized Brooks Shields about 1759 01:30:50.199 --> 01:30:52.880 her postpartum depression, which what kind of a weird mad 1760 01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:53.520 lib sentence? 1761 01:30:53.560 --> 01:30:55.560 Did? I just say? Yeah? 1762 01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:57.640 And then he went on the Today Show and Matt 1763 01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:01.640 Lower took him to task and he was like, Matt, 1764 01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:07.079 you're being glib. And in our world circa mid two thousands, 1765 01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:09.720 Matt Lower was the good guy and Tom Cruise was 1766 01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.760 the bad guy. Right, it's a different time. 1767 01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:16.800 Right when we also had couch jumping around here had 1768 01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:20.920 couch jumping, which was before that, I think, yeah, but 1769 01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:22.600 it was a combination of those things. 1770 01:31:22.640 --> 01:31:26.279 And then on top of that, Mission Impossible three underperforms. Yeah, 1771 01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:30.359 so it was like three strikes, you're out. Yeah, but remarkably, 1772 01:31:30.439 --> 01:31:33.680 I mean, you know, Mission Impossible three comes out in 1773 01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:39.079 six and five years later, a ghost Protocol just reinvents 1774 01:31:39.119 --> 01:31:40.760 the joint and is. 1775 01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:42.279 A massive hit. Yep. 1776 01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:45.119 Right, So I mean nobody knows anything. I guess that's 1777 01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:46.199 really the takeaway. 1778 01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:49.279 Yeah, I feel like then it became well, Tom Cruise, 1779 01:31:49.279 --> 01:31:51.000 I don't like this and that about him, but damn it, 1780 01:31:51.079 --> 01:31:53.439 he makes good movies. And now I feel like it. 1781 01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:55.600 You hear that even less, it's just like, no, I 1782 01:31:55.640 --> 01:32:00.119 just like Tom Cruise, like these movies are awesome. Is 1783 01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:02.520 that because, by the way, we should at least acknowledge 1784 01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:08.880 the uh Claire yes, kind of seducing him. I guess 1785 01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:09.399 a little bit. 1786 01:32:09.640 --> 01:32:14.920 That's that's I guess in hindsight, given what Phelps says later, 1787 01:32:14.920 --> 01:32:16.720 You're supposed to be like, oh, she's like trying to 1788 01:32:17.079 --> 01:32:21.279 trying to, yeah, come on to him, but it's so 1789 01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:22.760 clearly one sided. 1790 01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:29.960 Yeah, I mean apparently they did film, yeah, them hooking 1791 01:32:30.039 --> 01:32:33.239 up or whatever. But yeah, the way that in the version, 1792 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:36.000 the final version, yes, it kind of feels like he's 1793 01:32:36.199 --> 01:32:39.079 resistant as well he should be. 1794 01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:42.079 Yeah, she ain't right for you, Ethan. 1795 01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:46.479 Michelle Monaghan is out there waiting, that's right, and. 1796 01:32:48.399 --> 01:32:51.359 Tandy Newton and Rebecca Ferguson. 1797 01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:57.920 Yeah, things are gonna be okay for Ethan Hunt. 1798 01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:00.479 Sorry, I feel like I cut off the thought of yours. 1799 01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:04.279 I'm talking about wrapping up sort of Tom Cruise. 1800 01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:09.039 Yeah, well, just you know the fact this is to me, 1801 01:33:09.159 --> 01:33:12.279 like the fact that movie three underperformed. At no point 1802 01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:15.840 was it a serious thought that like, Okay, we're done 1803 01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:20.520 with these now, yeah, right, let's let's figure it out 1804 01:33:20.520 --> 01:33:22.800 and do better the next one. And I'm like, why 1805 01:33:22.840 --> 01:33:26.960 can't studios do that right, right, like okay, this one 1806 01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:28.840 and do as well. Let's get let's get up to 1807 01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:31.720 bat again and do it again the next time. And 1808 01:33:31.760 --> 01:33:35.720 there's something refreshingly old school about that thinking, mm right, 1809 01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:39.239 like as opposed to you know, the the Solo, the 1810 01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:43.279 Star Wars movie tanks and it's like, all right, just 1811 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.680 shut it all down, boys, you know, sure, sure, sure, 1812 01:33:47.399 --> 01:33:49.760 or just rebooting over and over and over. 1813 01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:52.560 Again, like no like Ninja Turtles, right, like. 1814 01:33:52.199 --> 01:33:55.159 Ninja Turtle, or or you know, yeah, like cause back 1815 01:33:55.159 --> 01:33:56.960 in the day with James Bond, you know, sometimes you'd 1816 01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:58.479 have one that didn't do as well and say, okay, 1817 01:33:58.479 --> 01:34:00.760 well we're gonna be back, We're gonna the next one. 1818 01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:01.079 Will be better. 1819 01:34:01.199 --> 01:34:05.439 Yeah, And that was the way we liked it, damn it. Now, 1820 01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:08.760 this here, this whole sequence which involves the downloading of 1821 01:34:09.319 --> 01:34:12.680 the data, and it takes about about forty seven years for. 1822 01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:16.359 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1823 01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:18.159 I'm just like like people watching this today would have 1824 01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:20.000 no understanding, you know. 1825 01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:21.960 Yeah, yeah, it. 1826 01:34:22.039 --> 01:34:25.840 Just it took a long you know, like I've heard 1827 01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:29.920 tell from people who are around that, you know, had 1828 01:34:29.960 --> 01:34:34.680 they the inclination to access pornography on the internet. This 1829 01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:38.159 is what people have told me. It took a really, 1830 01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:42.520 really really long time. No kidding, That's what I've heard. 1831 01:34:43.760 --> 01:34:47.680 I can't speak to it personally, but you know, people 1832 01:34:47.720 --> 01:34:56.319 I trust have conveyed this information to me. I don't 1833 01:34:56.319 --> 01:34:58.399 even know if things are different now. To be honest, 1834 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:04.560 I would assume I have no idea, but it's you know, 1835 01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:07.199 this is a transferring data. Took a long time. 1836 01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:09.680 That's that's the point that makes I we get well, 1837 01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.319 And I downloaded this movie to my iPad in like 1838 01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.880 a minute, so I mean, yeah, this uh you know 1839 01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:18.560 word dock or whatever they're looking at. 1840 01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.279 You know that that's like it's literally it's like a 1841 01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:22.279 text file. 1842 01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:28.520 Probably less than a megabyte, you know, But it is 1843 01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:30.239 kind of clever because yes, I mean, the whole thing 1844 01:35:30.399 --> 01:35:34.640 was to sniff out the mole. They had to get 1845 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:37.079 this into the enemy and not listen to the enemy's hands. 1846 01:35:37.079 --> 01:35:39.279 So it is kind of fun how they prevent her 1847 01:35:39.359 --> 01:35:40.840 from getting. 1848 01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:44.239 I love that that Luther's got the little jammer there exactly. 1849 01:35:44.359 --> 01:35:46.359 And then of course they have to do it before 1850 01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.239 they enter the tunnel, you know, because. 1851 01:35:49.039 --> 01:35:51.399 So that's the that's the chunnel that it's going into. 1852 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:56.720 Right. Oh, I don't know that was I should? I 1853 01:35:56.720 --> 01:36:01.159 think it is? Right, hold on, I'm gonna find out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1854 01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:03.439 but there's something kind of cool and old fashioned about 1855 01:36:03.439 --> 01:36:04.359 all this, right, Like all. 1856 01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:07.000 This spycraft on a fast moving train. That's fun. 1857 01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:11.600 Yeah, you know, people looking at each other suspiciously. Yeah, 1858 01:36:11.640 --> 01:36:15.000 it's very old school, very very hitchcocky, and so you 1859 01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:19.039 can see why Palma was was intrigued by this. Yeah, 1860 01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:22.039 but I should mention the guy to Max's right, you know, 1861 01:36:22.640 --> 01:36:24.359 her assistant. I was like, I know, I've seen this 1862 01:36:24.359 --> 01:36:26.880 guy before, and you know he's in both of the 1863 01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:33.399 Dune mini series that Sci Fi Channel. I love that 1864 01:36:33.439 --> 01:36:35.600 little moment they had right there. Like a lot of 1865 01:36:35.600 --> 01:36:38.600 times you would see a boss like hurry up, you idiots, 1866 01:36:38.920 --> 01:36:40.680 and it's like he's like, oh, it's working again, and 1867 01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:44.399 she goes ah, like she gets excited. Like it's like 1868 01:36:44.439 --> 01:36:49.600 a sweet little moment between her and her assistant. Makes 1869 01:36:49.640 --> 01:36:50.079 me laugh. 1870 01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:54.560 Wait, did we have like a moment like this in 1871 01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.239 the last film. I was gonna say, well, it's it's 1872 01:36:59.720 --> 01:37:02.439 because because on the train is where Kittridge meets Max 1873 01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:05.760 and then he meets her daughter in the latest one. 1874 01:37:06.119 --> 01:37:09.479 Yes, it's like poetry. It rhymes. See that. 1875 01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:14.079 George Lucas's influence is everywhere. It's like spaghetti. 1876 01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:17.520 One might say, it feels like a Copola thing, like 1877 01:37:17.560 --> 01:37:21.439 if they had had that real sort of Coppola Lucas, right, 1878 01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:24.279 de Pauma Spielberg sort of. 1879 01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:28.439 Yeah, I think to Paalma talked about it's like I 1880 01:37:28.439 --> 01:37:30.640 wish directors did that today. You know, I'm like I 1881 01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:31.039 do too. 1882 01:37:31.159 --> 01:37:34.119 They should, you know, why not? Well they might not 1883 01:37:34.279 --> 01:37:37.720 just have the relationships and just the world has changed 1884 01:37:37.720 --> 01:37:39.000 a little bit, you know what I mean, like the 1885 01:37:41.279 --> 01:37:43.199 I don't know, right, it doesn't feel like it used 1886 01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:45.000 to be that way, or at least when we were 1887 01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:46.720 growing up, it was those people that. 1888 01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:50.840 Gives Those people they were the main directors, you know. Yeah, 1889 01:37:50.840 --> 01:37:53.520 they weren't at each other's throats. They were supporting one another. 1890 01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:57.119 This scene cracks me up because Claire is such a 1891 01:37:57.119 --> 01:38:02.920 freaking big mouth. That's right, because because because quote unquote 1892 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:06.439 Jim doesn't say anything. She's like, so you pretended to 1893 01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:09.399 kill yourself and you're the bad guy, right, and now 1894 01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:12.000 we're going to kill Ethan. Right, if you agree with me, 1895 01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:12.840 don't say anything. 1896 01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:16.720 That's so good. 1897 01:38:16.800 --> 01:38:21.800 Yeah, yeah, now that is a practical effect. Yeah, it's 1898 01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:27.439 pretty good. And and I can't spot the switch from 1899 01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:29.319 from John Boyight to Tom Cruise. 1900 01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:33.319 I mean he's clearly taking something off of his face. Yeah. 1901 01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:35.439 I don't know how they did the that's amazing or 1902 01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:37.479 whatever they did, but it's it's really good. 1903 01:38:38.399 --> 01:38:41.960 It is funny. How like at this stage in the films, 1904 01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:44.439 the mask was like, okay, well if it doesn't look 1905 01:38:44.479 --> 01:38:48.880 like you just don't do anything. Whereas no, no, as the 1906 01:38:49.199 --> 01:38:51.680 movies have progressed, you get Tom Cruise can turn into 1907 01:38:51.720 --> 01:38:53.119 Phillips symour Hoffman. 1908 01:38:53.359 --> 01:38:55.079 Right right right, yeah there, Well you know what, And 1909 01:38:55.119 --> 01:38:56.920 I love the way that it's like, well he's got 1910 01:38:56.920 --> 01:39:00.439 this little clear digital strip on his neck and I'm. 1911 01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:04.239 Like, oh got it, yep, right exactly, that's all I need. 1912 01:39:04.560 --> 01:39:13.000 Okay, yeah, yeah, those damn gideons like I say that 1913 01:39:13.199 --> 01:39:16.720 weirdly a lot, he says it. So it's such a 1914 01:39:16.720 --> 01:39:18.600 fun way. 1915 01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:24.560 Yeah. Shoot, I lost my chain of thought. But anyway, 1916 01:39:24.600 --> 01:39:25.000 that's good. 1917 01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:29.079 Oh but yes, no, it is interesting seeing how they 1918 01:39:29.960 --> 01:39:34.840 continue to incorporate the masks, but they you know, tweak 1919 01:39:34.920 --> 01:39:37.680 the technology a bit. Yeah, Like I remember the one 1920 01:39:37.680 --> 01:39:40.039 where it was in the briefcase and then it's uh, 1921 01:39:40.920 --> 01:39:44.359 sort of like whittling away the material and then it 1922 01:39:44.399 --> 01:39:48.319 stops working. Yeah, that's what I've noticed in a lot 1923 01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:50.720 of the I don't think it happens so much in 1924 01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:53.239 this one, but in the later films it's like, let's 1925 01:39:53.399 --> 01:39:56.800 introduce this really awesome technology, but it always breaks, Like 1926 01:39:56.880 --> 01:40:00.760 I m F has the most unreliable tech tools. 1927 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:05.159 Well between their device is not working and they're being 1928 01:40:05.399 --> 01:40:08.760 like constant moles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is not a 1929 01:40:08.760 --> 01:40:10.199 particularly secure organization. 1930 01:40:10.439 --> 01:40:12.479 You know. That would be a funny reveal in Final 1931 01:40:12.520 --> 01:40:15.920 Reckoning where it's just like who's running this circus? 1932 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:20.840 You know, and it's a monkey with a British accent 1933 01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:22.600 he spins. 1934 01:40:22.279 --> 01:40:24.600 Around in a chair. Yeah, you're referring to me. 1935 01:40:29.039 --> 01:40:31.439 See So so this moment right here, I was thinking about, like, 1936 01:40:31.600 --> 01:40:33.279 you know, you know, why you have Phelps be the 1937 01:40:33.359 --> 01:40:35.960 villain just so that you can have this reveal. And 1938 01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:39.199 then Kittridge says good morning, mister Phelps. 1939 01:40:39.239 --> 01:40:40.000 It's pretty good. 1940 01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:42.279 It's pretty good because and you know, and in the 1941 01:40:42.319 --> 01:40:44.439 show every episode, that's how it would start, good morning, 1942 01:40:44.439 --> 01:40:45.159 mister Phelps. 1943 01:40:45.199 --> 01:40:50.560 So I mean, yeah, if you're gonna do it, Yeah, 1944 01:40:51.560 --> 01:40:54.560 that's a good way to have that, have that. Put 1945 01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:55.159 a button on that. 1946 01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:56.079 Yeah. 1947 01:40:56.199 --> 01:41:01.680 By the way, so Kittridge looking at his like, you know, video. 1948 01:41:01.439 --> 01:41:03.600 Watch his a little Dick Tracy thing. 1949 01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:05.520 It's funny. My mom and I were just talking about 1950 01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:08.119 this where about Dick Tracy and how it's like seemed 1951 01:41:08.119 --> 01:41:11.239 cool but silly, like, oh, well that will never happen. 1952 01:41:11.279 --> 01:41:13.439 And it's like now we literally have those on our 1953 01:41:13.479 --> 01:41:16.119 wrists now, like I can do a video call with 1954 01:41:16.159 --> 01:41:17.039 my mom. 1955 01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:19.439 You're wearing one right now, aren't you. 1956 01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:22.279 Brian, I'm not, but I have one nearby. 1957 01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:24.159 Yeah, it's it's within arm's reach. 1958 01:41:24.439 --> 01:41:36.399 Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. So yeah, I mean it's 1959 01:41:36.439 --> 01:41:39.279 complicated here. You know, this sort of farewell between Claire 1960 01:41:39.279 --> 01:41:43.560 and Ethan here again like knowing what they shot and. 1961 01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:46.079 And Ethan should feel nothing because that's that's what I mean, right, 1962 01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:47.319 Like there's a betrayed him. 1963 01:41:47.600 --> 01:41:50.600 Yeah. Yeah, but there's like a tenderness here. Yeah, that 1964 01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:51.279 doesn't make sense. 1965 01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:56.800 It doesn't quite but like, if anything, Phelps should be 1966 01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:03.319 like like he doesn't even care that his wife is dead, right, Yeah, 1967 01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:06.119 can't blame the Gideons for that. 1968 01:42:09.439 --> 01:42:13.319 I it's funny. I really like this ending. It does 1969 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:16.399 feel different than what we do in most of the 1970 01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:19.439 other movies. And maybe that even just comes because it's 1971 01:42:19.520 --> 01:42:20.640 it's so green screeny. 1972 01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:24.159 It's green screen and CG which you wouldn't nowadays Tom 1973 01:42:24.199 --> 01:42:27.399 Cruise would be flying back and forth on top of 1974 01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:28.399 a train for real. 1975 01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:32.439 Yes, yes, and but I don't I don't mind it. 1976 01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:35.039 I kind of love it. Actually, No, No, I think 1977 01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:35.960 I think it works. 1978 01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:37.960 I mean, the only thing we're holding it against it 1979 01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:39.680 is just it's different from the way it would be 1980 01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:40.479 with these movies. 1981 01:42:40.520 --> 01:42:42.640 Now. Yeah, it tonally feels a little different, but it's 1982 01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:43.439 really thrilling. 1983 01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:47.319 No, well, and I think it's it's a good like 1984 01:42:47.399 --> 01:42:52.000 that's really Tom Cruise doing that. Yeah, And so we say, okay, well, 1985 01:42:52.159 --> 01:42:55.520 yeah he's not actually you know, he's not actually moving 1986 01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:57.920 at two hundred miles an hour or whatever. It's still 1987 01:42:57.960 --> 01:42:59.960 impressive that it's a real guy, it's not a digital 1988 01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:04.560 stunt double. And they they the way they accomplished. 1989 01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:06.359 This is pretty crazy. They used like a. 1990 01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:10.359 Like a skydiving fan. What do you call the parachute fans? 1991 01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:12.039 Is that what those are called? Sure, sure, I know 1992 01:43:12.079 --> 01:43:14.439 what you're talking about. So you could it's enough gust 1993 01:43:14.600 --> 01:43:17.640 that could simulate like you could be over it and 1994 01:43:17.640 --> 01:43:19.880 be hovering in the air and practice skydiving. 1995 01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:22.720 Yeah, exactly so, but it was like set up vertically, 1996 01:43:22.920 --> 01:43:28.159 yeah or horizontally. Excuse me, And this is a lot 1997 01:43:28.159 --> 01:43:28.960 of this is ILM. 1998 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.880 I'm pretty sure. Yeah, yeah, I think I saw. Yeah, 1999 01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:35.159 the VFX supervisor was John Nole. Oh well there you go. 2000 01:43:35.199 --> 01:43:39.560 Then definitely yeah, John Nole. He he of the premise. 2001 01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:39.920 For Rogue one. 2002 01:43:40.079 --> 01:43:43.279 By the way, Oh that was him. Huh that was him. 2003 01:43:43.439 --> 01:43:47.039 Yeah, I remember that that that came internally, but yeah, 2004 01:43:47.039 --> 01:43:47.479 that's cool. 2005 01:43:47.720 --> 01:43:51.159 H So yeah, that that is the chunnel, which is 2006 01:43:51.199 --> 01:43:58.399 the the tunnel between England and UH and France. So 2007 01:43:58.479 --> 01:44:03.520 that makes sense why, like that's the the hard out, 2008 01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:06.119 like they have to get the data before it goes 2009 01:44:06.159 --> 01:44:08.640 into the channel because they're gonna be You're gonna be 2010 01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:10.359 off grid for a. 2011 01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:16.399 While, right right, Yeah, I love the idea, right, like 2012 01:44:16.640 --> 01:44:19.239 he's gonna get away in this helicopter, but then Hunt 2013 01:44:19.880 --> 01:44:22.479 connects the helicopter to the train, so he's forced to 2014 01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:25.439 fly it into the tunnel. Yep. I just I love 2015 01:44:25.479 --> 01:44:27.720 helicopters in general because they're so cool looking. But it 2016 01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:30.239 makes me think of, you know, like Terminator two and 2017 01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:33.600 how amazing it is when it goes underneath that high 2018 01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:36.439 way and it's right, yeah, something really cool about that. 2019 01:44:36.720 --> 01:44:39.399 And of course, yeah, you know, the exterior stuff actually 2020 01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:39.960 look pretty good. 2021 01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:41.199 It's when they get into the tunnel. 2022 01:44:41.560 --> 01:44:44.000 Into the tunnel. Yeah, it's a little taper. 2023 01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:46.920 Realistic, but but you know, I love it. And and 2024 01:44:47.039 --> 01:44:50.359 Danny Elfman is going full Alfman during this yep, you know, 2025 01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:53.479 like really frenzied sounding music, and it's just I don't know, 2026 01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:55.600 this just it really gets my blood pumping. 2027 01:44:56.279 --> 01:44:58.199 Well and and and we said it before, but I 2028 01:44:58.239 --> 01:45:02.159 mean the Shift Friend Mission Possible theme is such a banger, 2029 01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:07.319 and it's so perfectly suited to so many different kinds 2030 01:45:07.319 --> 01:45:08.399 of action sequences. 2031 01:45:08.520 --> 01:45:16.359 Yeah, yeah, you're right, like kind of skulking around, spying whatever, 2032 01:45:16.399 --> 01:45:17.880 you could use it. But you could also use it 2033 01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:20.600 for triumph, yeah, or or. 2034 01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:25.520 Or Garth Algar about about it tas a guy or 2035 01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:28.119 whatever you do. That's right. 2036 01:45:28.199 --> 01:45:29.039 I forgot about that. 2037 01:45:30.920 --> 01:45:35.720 Oh my gosh, I love that movie so much. Also paramounts. 2038 01:45:35.720 --> 01:45:37.079 I guess that makes sense. They probably didn't have to 2039 01:45:37.079 --> 01:45:37.479 pay anything. 2040 01:45:37.520 --> 01:45:44.880 Oh genius. I don't think about that. But yeah, I 2041 01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:46.840 mean that's the thing. Right, So, like the backgrounds look 2042 01:45:46.880 --> 01:45:51.000 a little wonky, but yeah, seeing Tom Cruise literally having 2043 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:55.439 his cheeks flap, Yeah, there is still a palpable you know, 2044 01:45:55.560 --> 01:45:56.960 sense of like peril here. 2045 01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:00.319 That Well, that's what you realize is that is that 2046 01:46:00.399 --> 01:46:03.159 the whole notion of Tom Cruise, you know, quote unquote 2047 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:06.520 doing it for real, which is used as a selling 2048 01:46:06.560 --> 01:46:10.439 point for these theater ones. It's what makes them value added. Yeah, 2049 01:46:10.520 --> 01:46:15.840 because it's something so different from other movies. Right, But 2050 01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:20.279 I think that you know, audience that are willing to 2051 01:46:20.279 --> 01:46:22.479 go along with it. Like I don't think we necessarily 2052 01:46:22.520 --> 01:46:24.760 need that, Like I don't need Tom Cruise to put 2053 01:46:24.800 --> 01:46:25.880 his life at risk. 2054 01:46:26.079 --> 01:46:29.560 If you know. No, But I appreciate it. I appreciate 2055 01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:31.800 the effort. It's nice of him. It's something I've come 2056 01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:36.560 to look forward to. But yeah, in this with this movie, 2057 01:46:36.560 --> 01:46:40.239 I wasn't missing it because I'm just enjoying figuring out 2058 01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:44.600 how he's going to get out of this. By the way, 2059 01:46:44.600 --> 01:46:48.359 I love that moment where Hunt is on the windshield 2060 01:46:48.359 --> 01:46:52.880 of the train and Renault is like inching toward him 2061 01:46:53.399 --> 01:46:56.840 to try to decapitate him with the blade of the helicopter, 2062 01:46:57.039 --> 01:46:59.119 and he's got this look on his face. It's just 2063 01:46:59.159 --> 01:47:02.039 so like almost like blank and almost like. 2064 01:47:03.079 --> 01:47:04.239 What will this? What will this? 2065 01:47:04.359 --> 01:47:06.079 Do? You know? Like he's you know what I'm saying. 2066 01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:08.119 It's like this really kind of dark look on his face. 2067 01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:13.960 It's see I think instead of saying red light, green light, Yeah, 2068 01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:16.560 he should have been like costal Asanya. They don't get 2069 01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:19.359 any Anya right. 2070 01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:22.920 It's a tribute to his fallen in honor of Jack. 2071 01:47:22.960 --> 01:47:23.960 I think that would have been better. 2072 01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:27.920 Could they have cast a better guy for a funny 2073 01:47:27.960 --> 01:47:32.479 face leading to someone passing out? That guy was born 2074 01:47:32.680 --> 01:47:40.560 to play that. This is his moment. Yeah, he looks like, uh, 2075 01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:43.960 you know Wallison Grammet Like he looks like a Watson 2076 01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:47.079 Grammic character. I'm saying this all affectionately. Now I'm feeling 2077 01:47:47.159 --> 01:47:49.640 very bad that I about it. We love Walson Grammt. 2078 01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:54.079 Yeah, yeah, I think I I I can't remember if 2079 01:47:54.079 --> 01:47:56.600 I said this on the show, but but first of all, 2080 01:47:56.640 --> 01:47:58.319 I love the Kid Trich character, so I was glad 2081 01:47:58.319 --> 01:48:00.840 to see him back. But I remember somebody put a 2082 01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:04.680 video together where it was the scene the opening scene 2083 01:48:04.720 --> 01:48:09.439 from Dead Reckoning that that reintroduces Kittridge and you know, 2084 01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:12.680 cause it's kind of a reveal in the in the film, right, Yeah, 2085 01:48:12.760 --> 01:48:18.600 and somebody added the audio from the audience watching Avengers 2086 01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:21.119 Endgame when that is the. 2087 01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:24.439 Hammer, and yeah it is. 2088 01:48:24.680 --> 01:48:26.840 It's so funny because it's like you get this either 2089 01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:28.800 camera slowly moving and then you see it and then 2090 01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:35.039 you hear somebody like no way, and it's just Henry 2091 01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:38.079 Churney sitting on a chair, and I'm just like, I 2092 01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:38.720 love that the. 2093 01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:40.039 Internet allows for that. 2094 01:48:40.479 --> 01:48:44.920 Yeah, something so specifically kooky. Yeah, yeah, it just makes 2095 01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:45.319 me laugh. 2096 01:48:45.840 --> 01:48:48.239 I know. It just I don't know all the shorthands 2097 01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:51.960 we have now, you know exactly. I can't remember if 2098 01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:53.880 we talked about this on mic or off or whatever, 2099 01:48:53.920 --> 01:48:55.880 but I was or maybe it was I can't remember 2100 01:48:55.880 --> 01:48:57.920 if it was you and I even, but I was saying, 2101 01:48:58.119 --> 01:48:59.880 you know, when we were growing up, we used to 2102 01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:03.399 communicate with each other via movie quotes. Yes, that was 2103 01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:06.800 our shorthand Simpsons quotes especially, but no one else did 2104 01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:08.000 and they thought we were weird, Like, how do you 2105 01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:11.520 remember all that stuff? Right? But now with memes and 2106 01:49:11.560 --> 01:49:15.319 gifts and whatever, everybody communicates with movie quotes and pop 2107 01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:17.239 culture moments, and you know what, isn't that kind of 2108 01:49:17.239 --> 01:49:20.680 funny how things have changed? That is? 2109 01:49:20.760 --> 01:49:23.479 Yeah, yeah, I mean that's just the reality we live 2110 01:49:23.479 --> 01:49:23.840 in now. 2111 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:30.520 Yeah. So's he's out until they pull him back in. 2112 01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:31.520 That's right. 2113 01:49:33.960 --> 01:49:35.840 This is kind of a funny concept. I don't remember 2114 01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:37.680 this watching a movie on a plane with your own 2115 01:49:37.720 --> 01:49:38.640 little cassette. 2116 01:49:39.359 --> 01:49:41.800 Yeah, I just assumed it was like a rich people thing. 2117 01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:44.000 Oh, that must he of course he must be in 2118 01:49:44.039 --> 01:49:46.279 first class because it used to be there was just 2119 01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:48.520 TVs hanging from the ceiling and you all had to 2120 01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:51.840 watch the same thing. Yeah, and the TVs were like, 2121 01:49:52.119 --> 01:49:56.359 you know, thirteen inch TVs. It wasn't like it was 2122 01:49:56.399 --> 01:49:59.840 really difficult. It's so true. 2123 01:50:01.119 --> 01:50:04.119 So this is this is like the the the U 2124 01:50:04.159 --> 01:50:05.039 two remix. 2125 01:50:05.199 --> 01:50:05.800 It's not you two. 2126 01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:08.319 It's like a couple of band members from YouTube Dale Die. 2127 01:50:09.439 --> 01:50:11.560 Remember he's the he was the he We just talked 2128 01:50:11.600 --> 01:50:14.199 about him a couple of months ago. He was in Outbreak. 2129 01:50:15.119 --> 01:50:18.079 He's he's like the military guy that that Donald Sutherland 2130 01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:19.000 is shopping all over. 2131 01:50:19.119 --> 01:50:22.800 Oh yeah, wait, who who's he in this? I didn't 2132 01:50:22.800 --> 01:50:25.520 even clock him. He must be one of the one 2133 01:50:25.560 --> 01:50:28.319 of Kittridge's peeps. Yeah, oh well good friend. 2134 01:50:28.760 --> 01:50:33.319 Yeah yeah. This is a remix by a couple of 2135 01:50:33.319 --> 01:50:34.159 the YouTube band members. 2136 01:50:34.159 --> 01:50:34.880 I don't remember who. 2137 01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:38.279 Yeah, but it was like getting all kinds of airplayer. 2138 01:50:38.279 --> 01:50:40.680 I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm. 2139 01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:41.840 Pretty sure they want a Grammy for it. 2140 01:50:43.119 --> 01:50:43.399 Uh. 2141 01:50:44.199 --> 01:50:46.000 Yet, in my opinion, it's still like one of the 2142 01:50:46.039 --> 01:50:47.439 most dated parts of this movie. 2143 01:50:47.880 --> 01:50:50.720 Yeah, agreed, Yeah, it's kind of nineties. 2144 01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:54.720 It's it's less dated than the Limp Biscuit version. 2145 01:50:55.279 --> 01:50:57.520 I love that. He just like not only what was 2146 01:50:57.560 --> 01:50:57.880 that like? 2147 01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:01.439 I don't know why you want to hate? Yeah, kind 2148 01:51:01.479 --> 01:51:05.199 of a thing that feels like a biblical punishment. Honestly, 2149 01:51:07.119 --> 01:51:08.239 we have punished for something. 2150 01:51:08.560 --> 01:51:10.920 But you know what, though, I'm sure in the moment 2151 01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:13.640 I thought it was awesome hearing like these like metal 2152 01:51:13.680 --> 01:51:17.680 guitars playing the Mission Impossible riff, So like, you know, 2153 01:51:18.399 --> 01:51:19.039 I'll accept that. 2154 01:51:19.880 --> 01:51:23.600 Well, well, here's my question of whether you'll accept something. 2155 01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:26.800 Will you accept talking through Mission Impossible too? At some 2156 01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:28.319 point in the near future. 2157 01:51:28.439 --> 01:51:32.000 You know what It's funny because my very very first 2158 01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:34.560 thought is ugh. But on the other hand, I think 2159 01:51:34.600 --> 01:51:35.479 that will be a blast. 2160 01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:40.199 I feel like we've embarked on a series of missions 2161 01:51:40.239 --> 01:51:43.039 now where we'll be popping in with these movies and 2162 01:51:43.479 --> 01:51:46.159 kind of offering our retrospective takes on them. 2163 01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:48.840 You know, I'm into it. I love these movies, so yeah, 2164 01:51:48.840 --> 01:51:51.079 I'd like to a good excuse to go through them 2165 01:51:51.119 --> 01:51:51.520 all again. 2166 01:51:52.199 --> 01:51:57.119 It it it's something that if you would have told 2167 01:51:57.159 --> 01:51:59.600 me in nineteen ninety six that yeah, no, no, thirty 2168 01:51:59.680 --> 01:52:03.000 years later, they're still going to be making these Yeah, 2169 01:52:02.720 --> 01:52:06.199 I I I don't think I would have even considered 2170 01:52:06.239 --> 01:52:09.039 that as a possibility, right with Tom Cruise, and they're 2171 01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:11.079 going to get even better, that's right. 2172 01:52:11.239 --> 01:52:13.479 Yeah, remarkable, you know. Yeah. 2173 01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:19.439 Uh. And and yet I think that they offer something 2174 01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.239 that's sort of unique in in the you know, in 2175 01:52:22.279 --> 01:52:26.239 the in the film industry these days, where it's it's 2176 01:52:26.319 --> 01:52:27.920 just it's unabashed spectacle. 2177 01:52:28.359 --> 01:52:28.560 Yeah. 2178 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:33.399 And it feels like by virtue of the Bond films 2179 01:52:33.439 --> 01:52:37.279 over the last you know whatever. Yeah, since since since 2180 01:52:37.279 --> 01:52:43.960 the Craig era, they've taken a different trajectory. These these 2181 01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:46.439 movies have filled a certain void. 2182 01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:52.199 Yeah, that's a spectacle. You know, you're totally right. I 2183 01:52:52.199 --> 01:52:54.840 can't think of anything else quite like this or and 2184 01:52:54.920 --> 01:52:58.560 if it is, there's sort of a sci fi you know, 2185 01:52:58.880 --> 01:53:01.119 sheen to it or something. Yeah. 2186 01:53:01.199 --> 01:53:03.800 Yeah, that's a good point. They kind of stand alone, 2187 01:53:03.840 --> 01:53:04.640 don't they. 2188 01:53:04.680 --> 01:53:05.279 They really do. 2189 01:53:05.399 --> 01:53:09.399 So you know, whether Tom Cruise sticks around or not, 2190 01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:11.960 and whoever ends up replacing him, if that happens, it 2191 01:53:11.960 --> 01:53:13.920 would be a shame for the series to go away 2192 01:53:13.960 --> 01:53:16.279 because I think I think people are in the mood 2193 01:53:16.319 --> 01:53:17.199 for something like this, you know. 2194 01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:20.840 Yeah, I know the last one didn't perform like the 2195 01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:23.760 most successful ones, but people do still turn up for them, 2196 01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:27.199 and it does seem like people enjoy them. So, you know, 2197 01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:30.079 I don't know, calibrate your budgets a little bit, and yeah, 2198 01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:31.039 hopefully keep making these. 2199 01:53:31.239 --> 01:53:32.840 That's really what it comes down to. I mean, they 2200 01:53:33.159 --> 01:53:34.920 spent just a kajillion dollars. 2201 01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:37.760 That was a weird one because that was a COVID film, right, 2202 01:53:38.039 --> 01:53:39.880 and they had to keep shutting down and starting up 2203 01:53:39.920 --> 01:53:41.560 and shutting down and starting up. Yeah. 2204 01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:44.079 Tom Cruise wasn't having it. He was screaming at folks. 2205 01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:47.800 I remember that. Yeah, right, I'm like. 2206 01:53:47.800 --> 01:53:51.880 The man just wants to save cinema. I know, put 2207 01:53:51.920 --> 01:53:57.239 your mask on you Damn Gideon. Won't you let him 2208 01:53:57.279 --> 01:53:59.239 save cinema? 2209 01:53:59.319 --> 01:54:02.039 He's a good boy exactly. 2210 01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:07.600 But yeah, hey, well those are our thoughts on Mission 2211 01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:09.439 Impossible from nineteen ninety six. So it tell us what 2212 01:54:09.439 --> 01:54:11.319 you think. You can email us at Moviefilm Podcast at 2213 01:54:11.319 --> 01:54:12.800 gmail dot com. You can also hit like on our 2214 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:15.760 Facebook page Facebook dot com slash Movie Film Podcast and 2215 01:54:15.880 --> 01:54:19.039 message us there. As always, please go to Apple Podcasts 2216 01:54:19.039 --> 01:54:20.520 and leave a review, leave a star rating. 2217 01:54:20.560 --> 01:54:22.319 Every little bit helps and we would love. 2218 01:54:22.199 --> 01:54:25.399 To have you show your support for this show. 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This has 2241 01:55:24.359 --> 01:55:27.479 been our movie from commentary track for Mission Impossible. We 2242 01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:28.319 will catch you next time. 2243 01:55:28.359 --> 01:55:35.920 Thanks folks. I staffed, it didn't I those stabbed Gideons