WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:11.880 Hello, and welcome to episode fifty nine of Game Spot 2 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:14.000 After Dark. I'm your host Jake Decker, and joining me 3 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:15.279 this week is Callie Plaguey. 4 00:00:15.359 --> 00:00:16.760 Hello to more. 5 00:00:16.640 --> 00:00:20.600 Hussein, Hello, and MC fixer. How you doing. 6 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:21.839 Hello? Hello. 7 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:24.120 We start to show off with with what we've been playing, 8 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:25.600 but before we do that, we are going to do 9 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:29.600 the Chris from Dayton, Ohio segment. Cue music, Butt Up 10 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:30.320 Up Up. 11 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:33.079 Chris. 12 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:37.320 There it is so Fixer. The Chris from Dayton, Ohio 13 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:40.280 segment is basically an opportunity to introduce yourself. Tell us 14 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:42.439 what you what you play, what games you always come 15 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:45.280 back to, how you got into this industry, and whatever 16 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:46.719 else you find relevant. 17 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:50.119 So with that, this is my moment, right, this is 18 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:53.359 the right, This is my whole The whole moment is 19 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:54.560 right now, right ahead. 20 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:57.359 I mean you already did unlocked, right, so you've already 21 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:58.840 like you've already hit the peak. 22 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:01.960 This is just like no way, no way, I did disagree, 23 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:03.159 totally disagree. 24 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:04.040 Yeah. 25 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.319 Hello, my name's MC fix Off. You guys can just 26 00:01:06.359 --> 00:01:09.239 call me fix Off or fix whatever you want. I'm 27 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:10.879 not call me EMC, So all you got to do 28 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:13.640 is not call me MC. And I'm already gonna enjoy 29 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:17.000 this way more. Yeah, I'm a full time content creator 30 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:20.719 on Twitch and YouTube. Been trying to break into the 31 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:25.840 industry now for about seven years. Typical story, honestly watching 32 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:29.239 content every day. Just thought, well I can do that. 33 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:32.280 Why not I can talk. I've got a personality. People 34 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.239 seem to like me. I'm not sure why, but you know, 35 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:36.920 and I was just like, you know what, let me 36 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:39.079 do this, so one day. I was a musician before 37 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.519 all this, so hence the EMC, but I kept the 38 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:44.079 MC for se oh, which I'm sure you will understand, 39 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:47.280 but nobody else understands SEO, like, just drop the MC. 40 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:50.400 I'm like, if you just typed fixer in on YouTube, 41 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:51.599 you wouldn't find me. 42 00:01:51.799 --> 00:01:54.280 So that's why it's the MC fix of it. 43 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:57.040 Yeah, I used to be a full time musician from London, 44 00:01:57.079 --> 00:01:58.439 who can probably tell from my accent. 45 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:01.280 And yeah, I've just I've been doing this a long 46 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:01.760 long time. 47 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:03.760 I streamed, like I say, four days a week over 48 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.319 on Twitch, eight hours a day, and then I make 49 00:02:06.359 --> 00:02:10.000 a bunch of original content over on YouTube. Let's plays 50 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:13.599 reaction content. I do some tip stuff for streamers streaming. 51 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.520 The worlds blown up as we all know, and just 52 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:20.039 being on the platform for such a long time, you 53 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:22.280 pick up a lot of things of what not to do. 54 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.000 Doesn't make me a professional, doesn't mean everything I say 55 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:29.000 is right, but you know the little eticacies I say 56 00:02:29.039 --> 00:02:32.039 of twitch and what not to do? What to do 57 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:35.000 had to get that little bit of a head start 58 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:37.319 from going from zero to one to one to five 59 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:40.080 to five to ten. And yeah, I also do a 60 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:42.840 weekly Xbox podcast which is probably what most people know 61 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.240 me from, which is called My Xbox and Me. It's 62 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:47.439 been going for about two hundred and sixty weeks now, 63 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:51.280 never missed a week. And that was like the big 64 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:52.800 that was the moment for me. 65 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:53.240 I am. 66 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:54.759 I'm a huge kind of funny fan. 67 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:57.639 A lot of people know that, and I was I 68 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:00.319 saw a hole in the market at the time. Damn 69 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:03.960 snow bite Mike, come on bro help me out here. Yeah, 70 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:05.400 I saw a hole in the market with them, and 71 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:07.759 I was like, my dream was to go and work 72 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:09.759 for kind of funny and I was like, I'm going 73 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:12.240 to start an exports podcast. They've got that. I'm gonna 74 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:15.280 do this and we'll see where we go. Hey, we 75 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:15.599 made it. 76 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:18.520 I'm here. I made it. 77 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:21.280 Have you been on the kind of funny Xbox. 78 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:23.759 You know what, this is a perfect opportunity. 79 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:28.360 You know why not kind of funny. I've been out here, 80 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:30.800 I've done I've done that. I'm helping with meeting greats. 81 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:32.919 I've done video work which you took for your own 82 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:35.479 channel and didn't credit me. I love your Greg Miller, 83 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:37.840 I love you Tim Gays, I love your A I 84 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:41.400 love everybody. You know, I love everybody. But come on, 85 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:42.599 where am I at games? 86 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:46.960 You know what we call a classic London pop off? 87 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.599 This is this is this is how you shout about 88 00:03:50.639 --> 00:03:51.360 ship on road. 89 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:55.240 You look, we had that open conversation before we started. 90 00:03:55.280 --> 00:03:58.240 I feel so comfortable already, so I'm like, I'm out 91 00:03:58.240 --> 00:03:59.680 here sending shots for everybody. 92 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:01.120 This is keep it going, all right. 93 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:03.439 The best part of that was Tomorrow took a huge 94 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:04.680 huff of his VP. 95 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:10.800 I was just gonna ask if you're gonna do anything 96 00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:13.560 really big for the three hundred and sixtieth week since 97 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:17.000 it's an Xbox podcast, But that wasn't much better. 98 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:19.040 I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with you. 99 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.079 I hadn't even thought by it. I take it week 100 00:04:21.160 --> 00:04:23.319 by week as long as I can get a show off. 101 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:25.639 It's what I usually try and do is every fifty 102 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:28.920 episodes we try and have a special guest, being someone 103 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.800 more popular than myself. That's that's especially you are, so 104 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:35.720 that's as easy as that. You're all welcome. Really sixty, 105 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:36.360 you're all welcome. 106 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.600 That's really good tackling on our part to have you 107 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:43.519 on for a PlayStation news weeks. 108 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:46.800 I've got my PlayStation pre ordered, so we're all good. 109 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:48.839 Don't worry. It's just like I say, I saw a 110 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:50.720 hole in the market and that's why I went with that. 111 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:52.399 But I play games everywhere. I'm a game on. 112 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:56.600 You know, before we move on, what are some games 113 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.120 that you always come back to, some games you play regularly, 114 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:00.000 some of your favorite game. 115 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:03.240 Resident Evil two is my favorite game of all time. 116 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:06.279 I'm still in my head deciding with a Resident Evil 117 00:05:06.319 --> 00:05:08.839 two remake is my favorite game of all time. 118 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:11.680 It's so hard that Resident Evil two. 119 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:13.439 There's a special moment in Reside Evil two for me, 120 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:15.759 and I've told this story mayor time, but new audience, 121 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:18.680 let's go for it. The moment was the zapping system 122 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:21.319 where you players Leon and you've got the machine gun 123 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:24.040 in the bag right, and you take this decision to 124 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:27.759 take both, take one, take neither, and I'm like, I 125 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:29.560 was playing that game at a really young age, so 126 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:30.360 shad to my mum. 127 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:31.199 She never stopped me. 128 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:33.680 So I'm not saying nothing else there though, but I 129 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:35.720 remember taking both it ams because I was like, well, 130 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:37.639 I want the machine gun and the backpack, because of 131 00:05:37.680 --> 00:05:39.879 course that's a I want everything. 132 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:40.879 This is what I'm doing. 133 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:42.879 So I went off beat the game, put in my 134 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:46.560 Claire b got to that same moment and it was gone. 135 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:49.920 And that moment sticks in my head so much of 136 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:53.160 a moment where I was like, Wow, video games are 137 00:05:53.240 --> 00:05:56.959 cool and this is a story and this interlinks and this. 138 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:00.240 It was just a magical, magical moment that I just 139 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:02.560 I will never forget. There's that, and then there's Metal 140 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:05.079 Gives Only Too where the colonel tells you to turn 141 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:10.199 off your PlayStation Fish and Mel I literally saved the game, 142 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:13.879 turn off my PlayStation, went outside. I remember this like 143 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:17.240 it was yesterday, and was like, wait a minute, why 144 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:21.000 did I just do that? Like I generally, I remember 145 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:22.759 it and I was like, this is this is ridiculous. 146 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:25.519 And at those moments I was already into games before then, 147 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:28.120 but those are like the two big, big moments to 148 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:30.199 stick in my head and go, this is why this 149 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:32.079 medium is so special and means so much to me. 150 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.519 Kajima played you. I remember in Metal Gear Solid one 151 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:41.000 when god man, this starts calling out games you've played 152 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.279 on your memory card. Yeah, and I was like, I 153 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:45.920 was scared to death and then you had to like 154 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.600 put your controller in port two. I was playing with 155 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:50.519 a friend and we were our mind was blown and 156 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:52.360 we were just like, what is this? And it was 157 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.399 years later too, Like we didn't play it on launch, 158 00:06:54.439 --> 00:06:55.639 we played it a couple of years after. 159 00:06:56.120 --> 00:06:59.560 Yeah, dude, the one for me, my metal gay experience 160 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.120 is the one that Irish sticks out. Obviously I have 161 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.120 all that, but like I was a dirty pirate as 162 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.079 a kid because you know, I couldn't afford games. The 163 00:07:08.120 --> 00:07:10.800 only way I could play games was to go to 164 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.480 We used to have the Sunday Market in Hackney. 165 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.680 Head down there, find the find the lad who. 166 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:18.639 You are from the Ends? Bro? 167 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:23.759 Trust me man from the Ends. I asked very much 168 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:24.160 about it. 169 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.279 I went down to Happey Market, used to have the 170 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:29.879 lad down there. He was this really nice guy, heiring 171 00:07:29.920 --> 00:07:32.879 impaired guy, but like he used to love video games 172 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:36.079 as well, and obviously we used to talk about it 173 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:39.680 because he with his hearing impairment, he loved the. 174 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:42.360 Visual side of it. But he would also. 175 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.319 You know, hook man up with like cops CDRs that 176 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.240 have the entire games on them. So I was like, yeah, 177 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:53.160 I guess coming in the four discs there was some 178 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:55.839 good value for money played. That game got to the 179 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.560 bit where you're told to look on the back of 180 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:00.839 the box to find the code number. 181 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:04.519 To pall Mertal and I was like what I looked 182 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:06.000 at the back of the box and it was like 183 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:12.000 Verbatim supplies the most hearty c drs in the business. 184 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:17.279 What I was like, Ship, this is pre Internet. There's 185 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:19.000 no interno. I didn't have it. I mean Internet was about, 186 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:23.680 but I didn't have that stuff. Yeah, I was like, ship, 187 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:24.399 what do I do? 188 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:26.920 And then I had a brain wave as a kid, 189 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.399 put my shoes on, legged it down to Woolworth's, down 190 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:34.279 the cour down the road where solid It was on sale, 191 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:37.240 picked up that cover, turned it around there it was 192 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.879 the picture of the the codec ran back home and 193 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:42.720 like put it in from that day. 194 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:45.679 The most important part of that story is resting people Walworths. 195 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:48.960 Of course, but not forgot. 196 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:51.759 People used to up into it and jack that picre 197 00:08:51.759 --> 00:08:52.200 mix like. 198 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:54.240 It was my mom would beat me. 199 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:54.480 I was. 200 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:57.440 I never did that ship because they figured it out. 201 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:00.679 They were like, the. 202 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:02.440 Only way that would have been more British is if 203 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:04.240 you had said trainers instead of shoes. 204 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:10.720 Obviously adds fresh creps on. That's all good. Yeah, guys, 205 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:11.120 come on. 206 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:14.080 If I'm if I'm being one hundred percent real, like 207 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:15.399 I'm post some slippers on. 208 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.279 I went down road real quick. It was a quick 209 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.120 one I needed to carry on with the game. 210 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:24.399 Of course, played you as well. 211 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:26.399 Plays everyone. 212 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.320 Having said that, I have purchased Metal Guest solid like 213 00:09:29.799 --> 00:09:32.600 many times since I think Kajima got his money's work 214 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:33.120 out of that. 215 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:40.240 Well. Before we get to the big news PlayStation five showcase, obviously, 216 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:44.080 we are going to talk about what we've been playing. Kelly, 217 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:45.200 Do you want to start this off? 218 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:48.159 Sure? I just wanted to do a quick follow up 219 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:51.919 on Worlds in Club because last time when I talked 220 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:55.399 about it, I was like, Wow, new killing game. I 221 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.399 love don ROPAs so much, and then I played like 222 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:02.559 maybe ten more minutes, and then there was a basically 223 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:04.120 the game is not at all what I thought it 224 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.960 would be, which is very on brand for the creator 225 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:12.879 of don rumpa uh kustak Kadaka. And so I'm still like, 226 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:17.639 it's still got like the weird, surreal creepiness that Donka 227 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.320 Rupa has, but it's a little different. It's actually like 228 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:23.919 more so far. I really got to emphasize so far 229 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.200 because who knows what could change in the next ten 230 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.799 minutes that I play this game. But it's a it's 231 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:33.879 kind of like it's got a very like very anime, 232 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:38.080 like like coming of age nineties kind of vibe. All 233 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.399 of the characters are like middle school students. There's like 234 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.120 the baseball obsessed one and the you know, the heme 235 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.840 whatever character, very very uh anime, but like in a 236 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:54.759 in a really sweet and like there's something sweet about 237 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.440 it too. So I'm still enjoying it. 238 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:57.240 But it's it's. 239 00:10:57.000 --> 00:11:00.480 Definitely I definitely did not sell it correctly last episode 240 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.080 because I only played like half an hour before talking 241 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:03.519 about it. 242 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:07.440 You were kind of expecting it to be unexpected, though, 243 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.039 weren't you, Because Yeah, you were saying that creator likes 244 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:10.960 to do stuff like that. 245 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:14.799 Yeah, I was totally expecting that, and also sparked some 246 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:17.559 conversation in the GameSpot discord about Don Grumpa, which I 247 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:20.120 was very happy to see, So shout out to all 248 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.000 of y'all. And then the second thing I wanted to 249 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:26.759 bring up is just the fifth anniversary of Undertail, So 250 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.799 happy birthday to Undertail. It was they obviously did that concert. 251 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:35.399 It got me thinking about actually talking about like games 252 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:37.200 that like kind of freaked you out with how like 253 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:42.399 prescient they were. Undertail is definitely one of those if 254 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:44.720 you don't know anything about Undertail, cover your ears for 255 00:11:44.759 --> 00:11:47.679 like one minute. But like in the Genocide run, like 256 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:51.720 you'd think, like you'd think it's a really hard run 257 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.159 to do, Like actually gameplay wise, it's very difficult, and 258 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.840 it's also emotionally very difficult. And there's a point in 259 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:01.879 that run where a character says to you, like it 260 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.639 addresses like people who are just watching it rather than 261 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:08.039 playing it like directly, and I was like, I'm playing it, 262 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:11.919 but I'm freaked out still like Toby Fox has got 263 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.480 everybody's number. So anyway, just shout out to Undertail. I 264 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:17.720 didn't think about that until we started talking about games 265 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:21.080 that like where we were like, oh shit, they really 266 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:24.639 like understood what I was gonna do. And then played 267 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:25.519 me by ass. 268 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:26.240 Yeah. 269 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.519 IGN gave that game a ten out of ten before 270 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.399 they were given ten out of tens every other week. 271 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:35.039 Wow, IGN gave I did I gave. 272 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:38.600 The shots are flying? I know I was on the show, 273 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:39.440 but geez. 274 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.279 Everyone, Oh yeah, we know nat Grind's probably listening to. 275 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:47.480 So those are all very good games, well deserving of 276 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:52.120 those scores. Oh yeah, anyway to more. How about yourself. 277 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:57.080 I haven't playing Avengers, which is a absolute steaming mess 278 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:58.799 of a game that I cannot stop playing. 279 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.679 Like I I was playing yesterday. 280 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:05.080 With like a couple of people are friends of the show, 281 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:08.240 Andrew Golfob and Greg Mother. 282 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:12.320 He's like this up and coming YouTuber. 283 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:16.039 It's got like a very like teen high energy kind 284 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:16.679 of vibe to. 285 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.159 Him, relatively amusing, you know. 286 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:23.480 Yeah yeah maybe kinds of kind of amusing kind. 287 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:25.639 Of yeah yeah yeah, but we're playing. 288 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:27.639 We're playing with him, like, and I think we're all 289 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.960 in agreement US three. Like the game is weird and 290 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:35.519 messed up, but also like strangely compelling for people who 291 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:38.919 love that kind of superhero environment or like a into 292 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:41.480 the grind of it, or likely enough to offset how 293 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:45.440 boring the destiny style daily grind stuff can be. And 294 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:47.519 like I'm playing it yesterday and I've been playing it 295 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:49.679 for weeks, and it seems to be getting more and 296 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:52.120 more buggy, to the point where I described it yesterday 297 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:55.200 as like a I call it like a cup of 298 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:59.240 milk in the sunlight. Where as time as time goes by, 299 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:01.519 it seems to more and more gross. 300 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:04.519 And like more and more disgusting. 301 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.120 Though, But like I played it yesterday and it was 302 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.320 like bugging out and I was like, this is but 303 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.320 it's like reach the point where it's entertaining now for 304 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:14.039 me for like how weird it is sometimes like you 305 00:14:14.200 --> 00:14:16.279 spawn and like Captain America is not there, but his 306 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:21.120 shield is, or like Tony Stark is constantly phasing in 307 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:23.279 and out of existence, and you're like, what is going 308 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:26.679 on with this game? Yeah, it's like it's well, it's 309 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:30.399 it's a game that I think has become really good 310 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:33.720 for what I understand how people jump into Destiny and 311 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:35.840 and just switch off and play it. For me, Destiny 312 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:38.480 I played a lot, but not enough to the point 313 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:40.039 where I knew it like the back of my hand 314 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:43.120 and could switch off, like I still needed to pay 315 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:46.759 some attention to like or I always wanted to pay 316 00:14:46.799 --> 00:14:48.919 attention because I felt like I needed to hit shots 317 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.320 and you know, do stuff like that. But with this game, 318 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:54.720 I feel like I can just kind of switch off 319 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:57.039 and I know it now and I'm just hammering buttons 320 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:59.440 and I know exactly where the objective is and I'll 321 00:14:59.519 --> 00:15:01.279 just go there and hit it and then I'm done. 322 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.919 So it's I've been playing mostly that there's not much 323 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:05.720 more to add to it. It is what it is, 324 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:07.120 and yeah, that's pretty much it. 325 00:15:07.879 --> 00:15:10.480 Yeah. I gave it a try last week and I 326 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:13.840 couldn't do it. I was really into the story too, 327 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.200 like all that stuff you said about Kamalakan, but I 328 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.919 like could not play the game. Like I just I 329 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:21.200 had absolutely no interest in playing the game. I got 330 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:24.120 to that whole commission where it's just like a button basher, 331 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.360 and I was like, this isn't this isn't really what 332 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:27.919 I'm looking for, and it was kind of a shame 333 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:30.120 because I do want to see that story through. At 334 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:32.279 some point, I just don't want to play that game. 335 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:35.919 Yeah, it's clearly, like I said this before, like it 336 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.919 feels like a case of like two games, Like it 337 00:15:38.960 --> 00:15:41.759 feels like that they originally made yeah. They made the 338 00:15:41.759 --> 00:15:43.840 Crystal Dynamics game where it was like we're can I 339 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:47.320 tell a story we've come up with, Like I am 340 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:50.000 so convinced now that that game was originally a single 341 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:52.440 play experience where you could on the fly just move 342 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:55.200 between characters and do what you want and AI would 343 00:15:55.200 --> 00:15:57.679 pick up like that's what it feels like, and then 344 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:01.080 they had to kind of like create like these gaps 345 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.759 to fill to put in the games of the Service stuff, 346 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:06.240 and those gaps just turned out to be cracks in 347 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:10.720 the in the long run. And like the the Carmala Khan, 348 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:15.080 like the main story is really really like good, Like 349 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:17.679 it's not perfect. There's a lot wrong with it, Like 350 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:21.000 the characterization is thin for a lot of characters. There's 351 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.600 a point where like Thor just appears and it's like, hey, guys, 352 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:26.399 I've just been around and you're like, what where have 353 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:26.799 you been? 354 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:30.519 That's literally what I said, honestly, Yeah, we spoke about it, 355 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:32.639 and I totally agree with you, which was like for 356 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:35.279 just turns up. He's just sort of they're like, oh, 357 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.240 you're gonna plays me now, Actually I don't want to 358 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:38.480 play as you, so see you later. 359 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:42.000 Literally just flies in from off screen is like I'm 360 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:45.279 here and you're like, what where have you been? Is 361 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.240 like I was helping the commoners on the on the 362 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:51.200 ground level and you're like all right, okay then and 363 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:54.720 then like even yeah, all right, fair enough whatever, and 364 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:57.240 then you don't really get to get any characterization around them. 365 00:16:57.240 --> 00:16:59.639 There's a lot of missed opportunities in the narrative. In 366 00:16:59.679 --> 00:17:03.480 the the multiplayer as well, the writing is very weak, 367 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.480 like very very weak, like the box, the quips, that 368 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:09.960 kind of stuff, they're messed up and like they're they're 369 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:13.480 just so apart from Kamala Kamala's. It feels like they 370 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:15.559 put a lot of effort into Kamala because even her 371 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:19.079 repeated lines are engaging, like and entertaining. Like there's a 372 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:22.319 bit where she asks about Thors like his weird helmet thing, 373 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.599 and he's like, oh, it's for special people, you know, 374 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:27.000 special occasions only, and she's like, great, can I wear 375 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.920 it to prom? And like it's just a really nice moment. 376 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.039 Like every time you hear that, you're like, it's still funny. 377 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.039 It's funny to me. But then like the million of 378 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:37.240 time you've had Nolan North as Tony Stark saying it's 379 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.359 your night inexpensive armor. 380 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:42.960 You're like, shut the hell up, please, or. 381 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:45.920 The other line he says is the cover your eyes kid. 382 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:47.880 I'm like, I don't need to cover my eyes. I know, 383 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.400 look away by that you told me times like. 384 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:53.839 He's yeah, it's just that part of it. But the 385 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:56.279 Kamala Khan stuff is really good. Like if you push 386 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.839 through the single player, it's fun, and it doesn't it 387 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.279 only really kind of forces you into a games of 388 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.880 service thing, like style mission right near the end where 389 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:08.319 it's like we need to collect x amount of items 390 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:10.960 to create x things so we can go and do this, 391 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:13.240 and you're like all right, but by that point, like 392 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:15.319 it takes one mission to do it, and you're like whatever. 393 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.319 And like the story, there's a moment towards the end 394 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:20.599 with Kamala, like the way her story wraps up that 395 00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:21.839 it's really really. 396 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:22.920 Like heartwarming and nice. 397 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.359 It's not interactive, which is annoying, but it happens and 398 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:29.920 you're like, that's cool, and I'm glad it worked out 399 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:31.799 that way, and it's got a heartfelt story in there, 400 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:34.960 so that's where the real meat is. And like the 401 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.640 weird thing is that I'm oddly excited to see it 402 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:39.319 grow and oddly excited to see. 403 00:18:39.359 --> 00:18:40.960 I want to see it do better. 404 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:42.839 I want to They've got a patch coming out today 405 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:44.240 which is supposed to be massive. 406 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:46.039 In fact, they should be live already. They need to 407 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:46.640 go and check that. 408 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:48.759 But it's supposed to be like really big, and they're 409 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:51.920 supposed to address a bunch of issues. And when I 410 00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:53.680 when I learned that they were doing that, I was like, yes, 411 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:55.680 I'm excited to see. I wanted to get better because 412 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.799 I feel like they genuinely have something special here. 413 00:18:58.079 --> 00:18:59.720 I wish they had more time. 414 00:18:59.519 --> 00:19:01.160 To give it like the nips and tucks that it 415 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:03.640 needed to be a more solid experience, and I wish 416 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:06.079 that it had more content in it in the multiplayer side, 417 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.119 But like it feels like they're committed to it, and 418 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:10.880 I feel like if they really do stick with it, 419 00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:13.599 they could have something of a Jugglenall on their hands, 420 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.599 even though that's an ext men's reference, which you. 421 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.519 Know we're never getting them. I totally agree with you 422 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:21.640 everything you said. The thing that frustrates me the most 423 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:23.599 about that game is I feel like like you were 424 00:19:23.640 --> 00:19:26.359 saying the single player, which should have just been a 425 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:27.160 single player. 426 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:29.440 It should have just been a single player story. 427 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:32.440 If they had to do this whole game of service stuff, Okay, cool, 428 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:35.480 I understand the business of it, but that single player 429 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:37.839 is strong enough to keep it as a single player 430 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:40.240 story and let me just drive through. That made that 431 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:44.839 a ten hour experience and then add everything on afterwards. 432 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:47.680 For me, that would have made the experience so much 433 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.319 more fun because the way I played the game, and again, 434 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:52.440 because I stream, I'm sort of picking people up and 435 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:55.559 helping people level going back and forward. When you don't 436 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.240 experience that story, which is main mission, main mission, main mission, 437 00:19:58.240 --> 00:20:01.400 main mission, it kind of los is that value And 438 00:20:01.519 --> 00:20:03.440 that's the game school. That's not my fault at the 439 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:05.680 end of the day. If you allow me to do that, 440 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.279 then that's kind of on you. At least that's the 441 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:09.200 way I think of it. 442 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:12.000 And yeah, and all do you like the RPG stuff 443 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.440 that's laid on top of it feels completely unnecessary when 444 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:16.200 you're looking at a mission and it's like, oh, you 445 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:17.759 know level X, Y Z, and. 446 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:19.079 You're like, well, this is all pointless. 447 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:21.400 It doesn't really matter, like I'm just trying to like, 448 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.640 it ruins the immersion, like would would come on like 449 00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:26.319 get kicked out of the Avengers because she's. 450 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:30.759 Not level AE like that's not that's not how it. 451 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.319 Yeah, And also like I mean this was this was 452 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:36.960 always the thing that gotten the way from me with 453 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:39.559 like Destiny. Not that Destiny has the same level of 454 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:44.160 story to any extent that Avengers does, but like I'm 455 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:49.240 either focusing on the mechanical like doing the thing, like 456 00:20:49.319 --> 00:20:52.480 focusing on the shooting and stuff, and my ability is 457 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.119 or I'm like listening to what's happening. I have such 458 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:59.359 a hard time absorbing story details and doing really intense 459 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:03.559 gameplay stuff, like I have to turn on subtitles on 460 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:06.240 most games that I play in order to like make 461 00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:09.000 sure I'm following along because otherwise I'm just like my 462 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:12.440 brain's just like shoot the gun, like I just can't 463 00:21:12.519 --> 00:21:17.519 do it. So I think it's definitely one of those 464 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:21.480 genres that's still like in a teething stage as far 465 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:27.839 as like how do we gracefully blend these two ideas together? 466 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.279 And you know, I'm not a game developer, so I 467 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:34.200 don't know how exactly, but. 468 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:37.200 I think like for this, I would have loved to 469 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:42.680 see them like like Fixers said, like completely segregate multiplayer 470 00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:46.400 and single player, because you could tell that Christo Dynamics 471 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:48.240 had that single player, They had that vision for a 472 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:50.759 single player, and the games and service stuff kind of 473 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.599 infected it, not infected it, but like forced its way 474 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.119 in there and made the single player a lesser experience 475 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:59.079 or a more convaluent experience. So like, I don't know, 476 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:01.039 maybe it's just me, but I would have preferred if 477 00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:03.279 they were, like, you finished the single player, now there's 478 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:05.839 this endless mode where you can just keep doing stuff 479 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.559 and we're going to keep adding to it, and like 480 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:10.519 this is your your games as a service. 481 00:22:10.680 --> 00:22:12.319 And then they do the same thing again when they 482 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:14.079 bring in the new characters as well. It's like, okay, 483 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.720 a single player, enjoy that story and now go have 484 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:19.000 fun with them with your friends, and then they keep that. 485 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:20.839 To me, we just would have worked so much now. 486 00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:24.079 Yeah, anyway, I guess I'll go next because I've been 487 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.920 playing something that's kind of old now, at least for us, 488 00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:29.640 Jedi Fallen Order, which is a game that I played 489 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:32.039 when it came out and I could not get into. 490 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:34.680 I think a big reason was because I was still 491 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.960 playing Sekuiro and it had a similar combat system, except 492 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:42.000 Sekiro was so much better, So by the time I 493 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.319 played Fallen Order, I was like, this combat is not 494 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.960 doing it for me at all. But I you know, 495 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:51.559 it's been a while. I got it on Steam because 496 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:53.680 EA put all that stuff on Steam, and I was like, 497 00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:56.480 all right, I'll give it a shot. So I started 498 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:58.839 playing it, and I kind of had the same feeling 499 00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:01.480 at first. The first two or three hours, maybe even longer, 500 00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:04.799 I was like, Okay, I mean, it looks great, but 501 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:06.599 I'm still not super into it. But I got to 502 00:23:06.680 --> 00:23:10.039 a point where I really got into it. So this 503 00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:13.200 is like kind of a I don't know, I guess 504 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:15.480 because I was pretty harsh on that game. I'd say 505 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.079 early on episode I don't know, our first couple episodes 506 00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:20.759 when we were talking about it, I was pretty harsh 507 00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:24.759 on it. But having finished it now, I was very impressed. 508 00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:26.680 Like I think a big reason too, is the fact 509 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.480 that it's not nearly as bugy as it was when 510 00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:32.240 it launched. Because I played originally on the Xbox X 511 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:35.960 or Xbox one X, and while it looked good, it 512 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.720 did not run well. I had lots of bugs, lots 513 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.559 of issues. So when you add all that together, like 514 00:23:41.640 --> 00:23:44.519 securo of the bugs, not being super into the story 515 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:47.720 I fell off anyway cut to today or I guess 516 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:51.480 I finished it a couple nights ago. I'm super impressed. 517 00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:55.960 I really enjoyed that game. It's I think you mentioned 518 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:57.519 it at the time too more but it like kind 519 00:23:57.559 --> 00:24:00.640 of made you care about Star Wars again and extent. Yeah, 520 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:04.960 I totally say that. I like, there are moments in 521 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.599 that game that gave me chills, even if somebody who's 522 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.119 not super into Star Wars. But just like the way 523 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:13.000 the story comes together in certain ways, I will say 524 00:24:13.079 --> 00:24:15.319 I won't spoil anything, but it does do that like 525 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:20.279 obnoxious thing where it's like, remember this character will guess 526 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:22.319 what here he is again, and it's like, what is 527 00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.359 his character even doing here right now? Like this doesn't 528 00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:26.119 make sense, Like he doesn't need to be here. The 529 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.279 only reason he's there is just so like people can 530 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:31.519 be like, oh, there he is. There's the guy and. 531 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.480 It's I've not finished it, so I am really hoping 532 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.559 it's j Binks. 533 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:36.519 It is. 534 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:39.440 About Jew Banks. 535 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:43.160 I hate you for this, but every podcast I can 536 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:45.880 jar joll Binks my favorite character in Stall Wars, I 537 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:49.920 will admit, really really. 538 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:53.359 Quickly, can we talk about the jar jar Binks lollipop 539 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.839 that was made as a promotional material and it's jar 540 00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:04.119 Jar Binks face and the lollipop is his tongue. I 541 00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:06.559 have nothing else to say. I just wanted to make 542 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:08.640 sure that all of you know that that's a real 543 00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:09.519 thing that existed. 544 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.799 But yeah, overall, I really like it. I'm excited for 545 00:25:16.839 --> 00:25:18.759 what they do next. Like it seems pretty clear that 546 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.720 Respawn is doing another I don't know, at least Star 547 00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:24.359 Wars Jedi game, because it's what Star Wars Jedi colon 548 00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:29.960 Fallen Order. So I'm totally into whatever they plan to 549 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.240 do next. Like, yeah, I'm bummed I didn't finish playing 550 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:35.680 it at the time. I don't know if it would 551 00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:39.559 have made my top ten lists last year still because 552 00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:41.680 there's a lot of great games last year. But that 553 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:43.960 being said, like, very happy I've went back and finished that. 554 00:25:44.680 --> 00:25:49.319 Other than that, though, I've been playing Splunky two, which is, 555 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.240 you know, just as good as the first one so far, 556 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:53.160 very addicting. 557 00:25:53.680 --> 00:26:00.000 Oh god, you should make that the thumbnail or something, 558 00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:00.960 and then just playing it. 559 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.920 Yeah, for the record, sorry to interrupt, Jake. I showed 560 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.440 everyone a picture of the Jarge Arping lollipop. I encourage 561 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.920 you to Google jar jarpinks lollipop to go along with 562 00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:12.640 this episode and kind of forward. 563 00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:15.000 Worse than I could have ever. 564 00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:18.519 I was having trouble picturing it, but I was. I 565 00:26:18.519 --> 00:26:20.119 imagine it was bad, but I didn't think it'd be 566 00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:20.599 that bad. Yeah. 567 00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:22.400 I thought it would be like Jorjo Binks, like with 568 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:24.440 the tongue coming out like a little frog or something 569 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:29.640 like that. Yeah, yeah, you have to like, this is 570 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:32.359 like a tongue deep. 571 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:33.160 Kiss with job. 572 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:34.839 They're playing tonsil hockey with. 573 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:37.440 This is how you learned to kiss. 574 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.119 Yeah, you use that lollipop for everyone who doesn't know 575 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:41.720 how to kiss. 576 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:42.920 By that lolly, you'll be. 577 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:47.480 A really weird future uh fetish, But it's fine. 578 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:50.279 I love the idea of what in the future being 579 00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:53.160 like my first kiss was within. 580 00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.920 Anyway, it's flunky too, uh is really good. The only 581 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.079 thing I have to say is that the online right 582 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:07.559 now is awful, which is a bummer because that was 583 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:09.279 the big thing I was looking forward to is playing 584 00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:12.880 this online because the original Spilunky only had a couch 585 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:15.160 co op, which was great, and I did some of 586 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:17.400 that and it was a lot of fun. But being 587 00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.119 able to play online just you know, opens up a 588 00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:23.000 bunch of new doors for this, but it is so laggy, 589 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.440 and apparently moss Mouth knows this and they're working on 590 00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:27.279 it and trying to fix it. But right now, if 591 00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:29.119 you plan on getting that game to play with your 592 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.480 friends who are in other parts of the world or country, 593 00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:36.200 whatever it may be, wait because that it's rough. It 594 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:38.759 is probably some of the laggiest. It's one of the 595 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:41.720 laggiest games I've probably ever played. And there's like no 596 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.039 way around it. Like finally we got it working, like 597 00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.880 after we did some weird like configuration, like it's like, okay, 598 00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.359 we can't play with this person because this person's was 599 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.559 too laggy, but the two of us can play together. 600 00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:54.799 And we did for a little bit, but it would 601 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:56.759 only last about four minutes until it would start to 602 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:01.839 get laggy again and someone would get dropped. So keep 603 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:05.079 that in mind. If you have no plan to play online, 604 00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:08.480 then I meant, now's the time. It is. It is 605 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.720 really good, like it is just as good as the original, 606 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.279 at least in my opinion, and it is addicting like 607 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.920 it is once you start a run, it's hard to stop. 608 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.440 I think. So far, my record is like World three four, 609 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:22.559 it's the only time. I've made it out of World 610 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.119 one and we did incredibly well. But yeah, it's good. 611 00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:31.880 But just wait, that's my advice. Didn't you guys have 612 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.319 any plans to play Spelunky any interest at all? 613 00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.599 Yeah, I'm excited to play. 614 00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:39.279 I just I think I'm just finding the time where 615 00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.319 I can sit down and dedicate a bit, Like I'm 616 00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:45.640 between playing Avengers and all the stuff that's been happening 617 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:47.640 this week for work. I just haven't had a moment 618 00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:51.279 to figure it out. I also need to disassemble my 619 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:54.759 PS four and clean it, which is yeah, I'm not 620 00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.039 looking forward to doing that. I've got thermal paced, I've 621 00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:59.720 got all this stuff ready. It should be interesting. 622 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:01.759 Actually going to throw it to you now because it 623 00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:04.359 seems like you've been playing some cold Duty war Zone. 624 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:06.799 Yes, I've been planning a ton of cool Duty wars 625 00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:08.559 on it's my it's my go to game right now 626 00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.359 for streaming. I'm putting like five hours a day and 627 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:14.559 I'm so bad. Honestly, I thought at one point I 628 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:16.960 was getting really good, and then Marvel's Avengers came out 629 00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:19.079 and I played that for a week. 630 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.039 And as soon as you stop playing a shooter, everything 631 00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:22.640 goes wrong. 632 00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.000 I don't know why, I don't know how. It really 633 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.839 does frustrate me. I can't hit my shots anymore. But 634 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.720 we roll with the punches either way, right, That's what's 635 00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:34.880 got to be done. So I've been planning that. The 636 00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.920 new season's okay. I like a few of the changes 637 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.799 they've made. I'm waiting for the new waiting for Cold 638 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.319 Wars to come out, really so we can see how 639 00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.960 it all gets. War Zone is going to be so 640 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.319 messed up when that happens because balancing issues. 641 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.759 I guarantee it. So many op guns. 642 00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:53.799 That's the only thing I hate about war Zone right 643 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.319 now is the shotgun is super op. So you're just 644 00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.519 running into people constantly with shotguns shotgun. You're like this 645 00:29:59.599 --> 00:30:03.359 snipers and like, come on man, this is ridiculous. I've 646 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.640 been planning that, and I've also been playing a game 647 00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.160 called Tell Me Why, which I'm sure you've all heard of. 648 00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.279 I did a spoil the cast with on the my 649 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.720 Xbox in my YouTube channel with my co host Kresh 650 00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:16.880 and Laura Kate Dow and. 651 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.599 That game is such a fantastic experience. 652 00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:23.440 It is one of I love walking simulators and I 653 00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:25.519 hate call them walking simulators. Because I feel like there's 654 00:30:25.519 --> 00:30:27.920 a lot more to them that goes into those type 655 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:31.119 of games, but for the to express what it is, 656 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:33.319 a guess, that's why people would know it. It is, 657 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:38.519 in my opinion, probably the best walking simulator out there 658 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:41.000 right now. This is Don't Lood's best game. In my opinion, 659 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:48.119 Every character you come against, speak to interact with feels 660 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.359 like a real human being with flaws, and they say 661 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.200 the wrong thing, and they don't get everything right and 662 00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:57.319 they try and correct themselves. It is such one of 663 00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.720 those experiences that I wanted to. I wanted to go 664 00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:02.000 into it because I wanted to see where it was 665 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:05.640 like for a trans person, right. That's the stories around 666 00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:09.000 Tyler mainly and his twin sister Allison, and I just 667 00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.880 wanted to wanted to see that whole experience. 668 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:13.359 It's around nine hours long. 669 00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:16.240 I suppose I pushed twelve to fifteen if you're planning 670 00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.599 it a little bit slower than what I did. It's 671 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.720 one of those games it's hard to really talk about 672 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:25.839 without spoiling anything, so I won't say too much. But honestly, 673 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.240 as someone who obviously what does a lot of stuff 674 00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:31.000 around Xbox, Xbox need to go get them so they 675 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.039 can keep producing this type of game for game Pass 676 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:34.079 in my opinion. 677 00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.640 Yeah, Jean Luke talked about it last week. He's a 678 00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.559 big fan of that don't know games and he had 679 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.759 only played episode one at that point, but he was 680 00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.400 speaking very positively about it. 681 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.759 Yeah, I feel like you're onto something with like if 682 00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.400 Microsoft doesn't want to acquire them, or someone doesn't acquire them, 683 00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.240 like having a DOPO that can put out this kind 684 00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:58.759 of serialized game seems like someone is going to figure 685 00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:02.240 out that they need that soon and and grab them, like, 686 00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:05.279 and there's not many options out there now that you know. 687 00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:09.119 Telltale isn't available and around any as much. I mean, 688 00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:11.720 they're back, but you know in what form we don't know, 689 00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.200 but don't know is absolutely killing it with with their 690 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:20.599 like serialized games. So like if if they have game 691 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.720 Pass and they want people to keep coming back, that's 692 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.960 a great way to do it. Give people the episodic 693 00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:28.319 kind of almost like TV show like experience. 694 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.200 Yeah, honestly, I'd be interested to see what they would 695 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.759 do with someone like Microsoft backing them, because I don't know, 696 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.279 if you guys played Vampire, I think that's what it's called, 697 00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.920 Like Vampire. Yeah, that was like an OURPGE that they 698 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:44.960 had developed which kind of came out of nowhere and 699 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.680 was like, I think, pretty favorable, but it was pretty 700 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:51.119 clear that there was some you know, budget constraints that 701 00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.079 were taken into consideration for that game. 702 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:56.640 And Microsoft has flirted with like that kind of I 703 00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.759 mean in a in a very ham fifted way with 704 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.200 to Break and the TV show around that, But that 705 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:04.240 was I feel like overcomitting in the wrong way. 706 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:04.880 They should. 707 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:06.960 I feel like they should take another stab about it 708 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.359 and do it with you know, a video game series. 709 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.200 Yeah, for me, it was when I was experiencing it, 710 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:17.079 it was so it was one of those experiences that 711 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:18.599 I was looking forward to it each week. And I 712 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:22.440 think that's been don't Knowd's biggest floor with life is strange, 713 00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:23.480 Like life is strange too. 714 00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:24.000 We all know. 715 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.799 I think it's a fantastic game, but we were waiting 716 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.559 so long between episodes that you were kind of forgetting 717 00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:32.039 what was going on in the episodes. She's gone back 718 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:34.680 and be like, oh, yeah, you do. I hate you do, 719 00:33:34.720 --> 00:33:36.359 I like you do, I love you. Where we are 720 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.119 it's not fresh in your mind, And I feel like 721 00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:41.519 with tell me why they hit the release schedule. 722 00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.400 It was a week every week for three weeks. 723 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.559 And it was just the and for me, I feel 724 00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.960 like it was the perfect a man I've always felt with, 725 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.559 Like even Telltale Games, the five episodes, you get the 726 00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.039 episode two and three that are okay, and then we 727 00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:56.319 come back up. Same thing happens with Tell Me Why. 728 00:33:56.440 --> 00:34:00.839 Where Episode one I think is fantastic. Episode two is there, 729 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.799 it's still good, but it's not as good as episode one, 730 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.160 and episode three just it does what it needs to 731 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.960 do to finish that story. And yeah, if if you 732 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:13.239 haven't experienced a game like this, it's their best looking game. 733 00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:17.079 I think it's the best writing they've done thus far, 734 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:18.679 and it's definitely worth your time. 735 00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.079 So yeah, I think. 736 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.559 Like really sold me on it, because I think I've 737 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:25.719 talked about before, I've never really been sold on the 738 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.320 Donut games. I think the thing that always turned me 739 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.719 off of Life Is Strange was the dialogue. And admittedly 740 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.239 I'd seen mostly just memes of the dialogue, but I 741 00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:36.079 did play with them and I was like, I can't 742 00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:40.280 do this, But I have been interested in Tell Me Why. 743 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.280 I do like the how they incorporate supernatural elements in 744 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.960 their stories, and I'm really interested to see what they 745 00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:51.239 how they approached this, And like I said last week, 746 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.039 I think it's so cool that they had like an 747 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:57.159 FAQ for people to be like, yeah, we were approaching 748 00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.679 like a difficult topic. Here's what you need to know 749 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:04.280 if your concern if you're concerns, And I thought, like, 750 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.320 that's what a content warning is about, is like making 751 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.159 sure everybody is like informed and knows what to expect 752 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:12.760 going in, not in a spoiler spoilery weight, but just 753 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.639 in like a, hey, is this particular thing that's going 754 00:35:15.719 --> 00:35:18.199 to upset me here should I prepare myself for that? 755 00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:20.639 So I thought that was like a really cool way 756 00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:23.000 to approach that, and that got me really interested just 757 00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:26.440 in kind of be not the story itself, but just 758 00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:28.480 in the game. If that makes sense, I think you've 759 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.199 actually really sold me on it. I really want to 760 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:30.599 try it out. 761 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.119 I can't wait to hear what you think of it. 762 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.880 Honestly, it's definitely it's such a nine hours is nothing 763 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:37.119 in today's games. 764 00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:38.840 When we're all I'm sure we're all the same way. 765 00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.800 It's like someone comes out a hundred experience when I nope, nope, 766 00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:43.800 I'm too busy, I've got too much to do, Like 767 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.639 you start playing Cyberpunk because like the only game I'm like, okay, 768 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.320 you can be one hundred hours, allow it. But yeah, 769 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.800 this game is it's very respectful of your time. And 770 00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:57.519 it doesn't like I say, episode two gets you from 771 00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.000 me to B but episode three picks up. There's never 772 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.679 that loll period like I always felt with the other 773 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:06.280 games where there's a flat and it it drags on 774 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:08.039 for a whole episode because it needs to. 775 00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:10.480 This doesn't have that. It's very much we've had. 776 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.039 A flat, time has passed, we've hailed, but not in 777 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:17.079 a doesn't feel like it's wrong in the story EVA. 778 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:20.920 So yeah, it's cool, awesome. Well with that, let's move 779 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:28.599 on to the topics for this week. All right, So, 780 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:31.639 I think the big thing this week that everyone's talking 781 00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:35.360 about is the PlayStation Showcase, and probably more importantly what 782 00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.440 people are talking about is the price A and B 783 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.800 how the pre orders have been an absolute mess. But 784 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:46.320 before we get into that, just some general information. The 785 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:49.800 price was revealed the disked version of the console, the 786 00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:52.119 disc version, the one with a disk drive, is going 787 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.559 to be four ninety nine and the disc list is 788 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.960 three ninety nine US. Of course I don't know what 789 00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:58.239 it is. 790 00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:03.119 And fifty four hundred and fifty pounds and three hundred 791 00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:04.400 and fifty pounds. 792 00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:05.960 Okay, that's not too bad. 793 00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.119 Yeah, it seems PS three was way more. 794 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:11.639 I remember five. 795 00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:15.199 The bundle I got was six hundred. That was when 796 00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:16.559 I was working at hm B and I had to 797 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.239 get like a staff discount and I was like, get 798 00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:20.159 ripped off, man. 799 00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.840 But it's priced really, really well. 800 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:25.119 This is the first time with consoles in the UK 801 00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.239 where I've gone, as I said openly, though, I'll pay 802 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.280 pounds my max, like, I'll pay five hundred, five hundred, 803 00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:32.639 it comes to four to fifty eight. 804 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:34.760 I was like, Hayley, which is my fiance, We're going 805 00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:38.519 to Nando's. Girls. Don't worry. We've got a hundred pounds 806 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:40.400 to spend as much chicken as you would like. 807 00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:41.760 You could get. 808 00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.800 A lot of nouns. 809 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:45.920 I'll send you, guys. The video of the Mott Bank. 810 00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:49.679 Missed so much. 811 00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.559 Apart from that, I think the other news that kind 812 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.000 of got confirmed, and I think a lot of people 813 00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.599 were expecting, was that it seems like these Triple A 814 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:00.880 PS five games are going to be sixty nine to 815 00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.320 ninety nine. That's not for everything, though. It seems like 816 00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:05.159 Spider Man, I think, is going to come in a 817 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.559 little bit cheaper, and some of these, some of these 818 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:10.280 smaller experience games are a little bit cheaper. To me, it 819 00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.960 kind of looked like maybe these developers are going to 820 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.960 start pricing games in terms of like they're length. Maybe 821 00:38:17.039 --> 00:38:19.679 not length, but like, I don't want to say how 822 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:21.360 much work was put in, but I think we might 823 00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.000 see a bigger range in prices. Like I don't think 824 00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:27.159 every retail game at launch is gonna cost seventy dollars. 825 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.719 It is just me speculating, but that's kind of what 826 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:31.840 I got from it. But I know that is, I 827 00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.559 don't know, kind of kind of interesting. I'm not surprised, 828 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:36.519 but I imagine some people are frustrated with that. 829 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.199 No, I was just gonna say, Tweter, I'll keep the 830 00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:41.559 same energy because I'm sick of it. I'm sick of Twitter, 831 00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:43.159 and maybe you guys have been on Twitter longer than 832 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:45.920 me and dealt with it. But two K comes out 833 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:48.840 right and their game seventy dollars. Twitter is a blaze. 834 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.320 It is a blaze. Everybody hates two K. Cancel them 835 00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.159 blah blah, blah blah blah. I get I like my 836 00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:57.760 Sports Tiles, so I think the developers that developed Sports 837 00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:00.679 Tiles have the short end of the stick. Turnaround time 838 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.400 is the shortest of any game that we probably know of, right, 839 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.880 Twitter goes crazy, PlayStation do it? Okay, I'm happy game 840 00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:11.800 press are going long overdue personally, but I also sit 841 00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.000 in a privileged position like I'm sure some of you guys. 842 00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:16.440 We get sent games so it doesn't cost us seventy 843 00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.800 dollars all of the time. Me every now and then, 844 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:20.639 I have to buy a few games here and there, 845 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:24.519 so it's really hard to talk about like I'm okay 846 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.199 with it being seventy dollars when I'm not. I remember 847 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.159 a couple literally only a year ago, pr only like 848 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:33.920 me now, remember that a year ago when I was 849 00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:36.679 buying every single game before but even maybe not a 850 00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.400 year ago, but before game pass was a thing and 851 00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.599 things like that. Right, So I appreciate I understand games 852 00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:44.880 costs more. I hope this trickles down to the developers. 853 00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:45.079 Though. 854 00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:48.320 It's all well and good. It costing seventy seventy dollars 855 00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:51.320 seventy pounds as well. By the way, it's seventy pound 856 00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.840 for games as well, so that's gone from fifty five 857 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:58.039 pounds to seventy pound. But our dev's gonna get our 858 00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.480 community manager's going to get paid right. Are you going 859 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:04.559 to get paid right? Or are big fat mogul top 860 00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.440 of the range whatever you are? Are you going to 861 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.159 get more rich? Not FMC fixer I sided to say 862 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.679 about it, No way. Me and my Twitter army are 863 00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:13.679 four fans of followers. We're coming for you. 864 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.079 We're not. Please don't find. 865 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.679 I think the interesting thing will be whether it sticks 866 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:24.360 because I mentioned this a couple episodes ago, But this, 867 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:26.880 this is something that tends to happen early in the generation, 868 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.920 like when people are desperate for games and will pretty 869 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:35.000 much buy anything to justify their console purchase, publishers and 870 00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.119 platform holders will generally skew a little higher. And I 871 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:40.440 remember that in the UK at least being the case. 872 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.840 Like I remember when I bought my PS four, like 873 00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.719 Needs for Speed was way way more expensive than any 874 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:49.239 other game had been at that point, and there were 875 00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:50.840 a bunch of other games at the same time that 876 00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.719 were like maybe like ten or fifteen quid a little 877 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:56.239 more higher than usual, And then after a little while. 878 00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:58.719 It was like a couple of months they started to 879 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.760 dip back down and and generally retailers were realizing that 880 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.599 it was too much to ask for for a consistent period. 881 00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:07.440 So I wonder if the same thing is going to 882 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.559 happen where they stop doing that and it dips back down, 883 00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.519 we'll see that singing in the long run, And the 884 00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.039 fact that it's not across the board leads me to 885 00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:19.360 believe that might be the case. If it was like 886 00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.360 a case of they need to be this price, every 887 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:24.440 game would be that price, because it would be so 888 00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.199 only needing to make that statement and say we have 889 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.639 to charge this much because it costs as much and it. 890 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:30.559 Needs to be this much. 891 00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.639 But because they've rolled up and they're like, yeah, we 892 00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:35.159 got this one gown for a bit cheaper. And admittedly 893 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:37.800 some of that is because you know, Miles is also 894 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.079 coming out for previous year and that kind of stuff, 895 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.719 so there's some kind of weird, you know, stuff that 896 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:45.480 they need to do around there. But I feel like 897 00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:48.320 it's also it seems to me like an indication that 898 00:41:48.639 --> 00:41:50.079 this is what they're trying to do to get a 899 00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:53.280 bit more money up front, and then over time, you know, 900 00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:57.239 as retailers start to cut prices, it will normalize back 901 00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.280 down to a decent, more manageable price. 902 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.760 YEA, I will say I'm more open to paying seventy 903 00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.199 dollars for like a Sony exclusive too than I would 904 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:07.599 be for a two K game, just because I know 905 00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:08.920 that I'm not going to get a bunch of micro 906 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.519 transactions thrown at me. Right at least I believe that 907 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.239 two K NBA two K did have micro transactions and 908 00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.519 it was still seventy bucks or it still will be 909 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:21.880 seventy bucks. So like, in that sense, I'm kind of 910 00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:26.039 okay with spending seventy dollars on these games, like especially 911 00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:28.079 something like Demon Souls, which I imagine I will play 912 00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.400 a lot of. But yeah, I kind of like what 913 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:33.559 Timore was saying, Like I kind of like the idea 914 00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:36.039 of more range because I think that's something that people 915 00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:37.880 have been struggling with for a long time, right, Like 916 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.679 there's that argument that's been around for a while, Like, oh, 917 00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:43.760 so I can pay sixty dollars and get like one 918 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.079 hundred and fifty hours from Skyrim, or I can pay 919 00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.440 sixty dollars and get eight hours from I don't know, 920 00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:53.280 like Uncharted or something like that. So it's kind of 921 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:56.280 interesting to see how that how that kind of levels 922 00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:59.320 out in a weird sense, and I should mention that, 923 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.639 like there's no if there's another uncharted that it's going 924 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:03.800 to be cheaper. I bet you that's going to be. Oh, 925 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.320 of course, yeah, because those those games cost so much 926 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:09.280 money to make. But it is like that conversation and 927 00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.239 I think that I think that's exciting in a sense. 928 00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:16.159 Yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting to think about this because, 929 00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:19.039 you know, dealing with reviews, we really don't talk about 930 00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:22.199 the price of a game in reviews. At GameSpot, we'll 931 00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.039 talk about micro transactions, specifically in the context of like 932 00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:29.159 pay to win, but we tend to avoid assigning value 933 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:33.480 to the monetary, you know, price of something because like 934 00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:36.360 I can't tell you what sixty dollars is worth to 935 00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.440 you or seventy dollars is worth to you, so I 936 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:39.960 can tell you whether I think the game is good, 937 00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.039 and then you can decide whether it's sixty dollars or 938 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:45.880 seventy dollars good. So I often don't think about it. 939 00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.039 Fixture you brought up a good point, like we do 940 00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:52.639 often get most of the games that we would need 941 00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:54.760 for coverage, or at least in my case, like any 942 00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.880 game that I necessary not necessarily would want to buy myself, 943 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.719 if I just want to try it out, it's easier 944 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:07.599 for someone like me to get that access, either you know, 945 00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:13.599 through our work channels or like expense it. So to me, 946 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.320 like seventy dollars is a pretty but sixty, you know, 947 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.559 it's a ten dollars difference. I mean, that is a difference, 948 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:20.920 But to me, it's just like, I don't think it'll 949 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.840 be the difference between Oh, I wouldn't have bought that 950 00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.639 game for seventy, but if it's sixty, I'll buy it. 951 00:44:26.760 --> 00:44:29.559 Like I'm it's just hard because money means different things 952 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.239 to different people. And I think we're also like just 953 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:36.159 kind of in a weird situation. So I'm wondering how 954 00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:41.199 that like premium price is going to work out with 955 00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:43.519 you know, the realities of COVID. So there's a lot 956 00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.239 of questions, I think, But I do think I think 957 00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.280 we can all agree that like games are really expensive 958 00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:50.119 to make, and that hopefully. 959 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.159 They're getting more expensive, a lot more expensive. 960 00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:56.239 The one thing that I've been thinking about, it's like 961 00:44:56.360 --> 00:45:00.840 borderline conspiracy because I love to like indulg the conspiracy 962 00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:01.239 side of. 963 00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:03.639 My stuff and we go buckle up, friends. 964 00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:05.360 What if? 965 00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:08.760 What if this is the physical games are a little 966 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:12.199 more expensive so that Sony can push people towards the 967 00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:16.480 digital version, which they are more inclined to discount sooner 968 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:20.239 quicker because they'll see the value immediately return to them. 969 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.320 So if the amazols is seventy, and I think it's 970 00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:25.480 going to be initially at the very least going to 971 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.280 be seventy across digital and physical, but then you know, 972 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:33.320 they start that trend of oh it comes out expensive 973 00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:37.320 seventy pounds or seventy dollars on physical and digital, but 974 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.079 then Sony tends to like after a month discounted down 975 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:44.800 to forty fifty. That would push people or develop that 976 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.840 kind of habit to keep an eye out for digital 977 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:50.280 sales for Sony. So I think that might be a 978 00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:54.039 case because it also means that Sony can do that 979 00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.920 thing where that Nintendo does, where they stick by the 980 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.840 value of their games and never discount in physical cool anyway, 981 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.119 Nintendo just doesn't do that, and it means that you 982 00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.480 know you're paying full price always, So Sunny could be like, 983 00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:11.639 this is what we think it's worth at a physical considering. 984 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:14.920 We have to pay you know, retailers and etcetera shipping 985 00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:17.880 that kind of stuff. Manufacturing costs on digit all work good. 986 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:19.679 We don't have to do that. We can just discount 987 00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.920 that stuff. So perhaps there's a little bit of an economic, 988 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.599 kind of psychological game being played here. 989 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.480 Yeah, I mean, I guess to to kind of add 990 00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.239 to that, I know a lot of people, at least 991 00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:36.880 on Twitter Surprise, were frustrated that Horizon New Down. Is 992 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.199 that what it's called Horizon Forbidden? Well, where I got 993 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:47.760 new Down from Twilight movie is. 994 00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:50.599 A Twilight from. 995 00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:57.920 It's Breaking New Moon eclips and then Breaking Breaking Dawn Saga, 996 00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:00.400 Twilight Saga, Breaking Dawn Part one and Part two. 997 00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:04.760 Crying That's what I'm for, crying new do on Okay, Okay, yeah, 998 00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:06.920 that's what I'm thinking of. But but I know a 999 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.440 lot of people are frustrated because they were like, oh, 1000 00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.039 that game is coming to the PlayStation four two, Like 1001 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.039 I want I want it to look as good as possible, 1002 00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.039 But like that also kind of like brings up this 1003 00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:22.119 issue about like how expensive games cost. Like I imagine like 1004 00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:24.960 a game that did as well as Horizon, like it 1005 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.159 would be tough to get your money back if you 1006 00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.079 just put it on this new console that probably not 1007 00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:31.679 a lot of people are going to get right up front, 1008 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:33.840 or at least not nearly as what the one hundred 1009 00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:37.360 and twenty million PS four consoles that have sold and 1010 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.159 like like that. Just that would be such a risk 1011 00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:43.360 if they only put it on PS five, I imagine. 1012 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.719 But the big problem I have is but they said 1013 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:49.960 there are generational consoles. 1014 00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:51.440 This is what frustrates me. 1015 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.400 Because so when you come out and say things and 1016 00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.239 nobody says anything. I'm on the platform, guys, I get 1017 00:47:58.280 --> 00:48:01.199 to speak. It's like no one says anything. 1018 00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:01.760 We don't. 1019 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:02.679 We don't talk about it. 1020 00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.039 We don't, we don't say old Up a minute, didn't 1021 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.480 you just say the generations? 1022 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:08.559 And this is holding it back. 1023 00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.840 But you're doing the exact same thing, but it just 1024 00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:12.880 doesn't get brought and up. 1025 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.079 It seems strange to me. I don't know why it is. 1026 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.159 I don't know why it is, but we we seem 1027 00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.239 to I remember again, I've been covering Xbox for so long. 1028 00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:24.599 Whenever Xbox fumbled, we were on them like crazy, just 1029 00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:28.840 like me. I remember the Resolution war that was that 1030 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.039 was a thing Xbox have been doing all the things 1031 00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.719 actually for the players, in my opinion, and it doesn't 1032 00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.480 get spoken about as fondly as when PlayStation come out 1033 00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.360 with something, and maybe not directly like because they're very 1034 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.079 good with their word in so I can't really just 1035 00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:48.239 say that. But it's very very obvious to me where 1036 00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:51.039 you're like, hold up, you've you made this statement about 1037 00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:54.119 how generations are important, blah blah blah blah blah, but 1038 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:56.960 now you're going back on that, and I understand, I 1039 00:48:57.039 --> 00:48:57.599 understand why. 1040 00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:59.760 I totally agree. I'm glad honestly. 1041 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.920 It's people are going to get to experience Spider Man, Horizon, Sackboy, 1042 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:06.840 and that's a great thing and they're going to make 1043 00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.920 more money for it. But stick to your word, it 1044 00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.559 seems a little bit shaky to me. 1045 00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:14.519 I think I think there is there's a I think 1046 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.679 that there is criticism of Sony, especially right now. 1047 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:18.840 I think with. 1048 00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:21.199 Sony, the next thing we talk about is going to. 1049 00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:23.599 Has been right now. 1050 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:26.679 It's their kind of like processes that are being critiqued, 1051 00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.599 and in the moment right now, it's like their handling 1052 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:32.119 of revealing this stuff that it seems to be taking 1053 00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.719 the kind of precedent and like focus away from it. 1054 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:37.639 But I think over time there will be a little 1055 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:41.880 more discussion about the way Sony is approaching it. I 1056 00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:46.360 think that the lack of clarity in in what their 1057 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.159 plans are is also kind of making it difficult to 1058 00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:54.440 critique them. Microsoft in their Xbox strategy has been very clear, 1059 00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:57.480 very plain, and when they release the information about something, 1060 00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:00.320 they do it in its entirety around that subject math 1061 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:04.199 Sony has been a bit like strip feeding information, so 1062 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:06.840 the clear picture isn't there. So I don't know about you, 1063 00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:09.280 Like for me, like I feel like I could analyze 1064 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:10.480 this right now and say. 1065 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.840 Something, but tomorrow I could look like an idiot. So 1066 00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:16.679 I think a lot of brands, I mean, like I 1067 00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:17.440 look like an idiot. 1068 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.039 I'm not saying that's what I do because if I 1069 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:20.519 feel like I want to say something, I'll say it. 1070 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.000 I think for a lot of people, they're like they're 1071 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:26.199 not as comfortable like really sticking it to them right 1072 00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:28.960 now because the full picture isn't there, which is like 1073 00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:31.920 it's a classic like marketing strategy, right if you can't 1074 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:34.559 if you don't tell them everything, they can't critique everything 1075 00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.800 you give. So like I think Once we get closer 1076 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:39.880 to launch and it becomes clearer, that's when people will 1077 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.079 start being like, this is not one Well, what do you. 1078 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:46.599 Guys think about the because we didn't mention release date 1079 00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:51.320 which is November twelfth, but only in US, Japan, Canada, Mexico, Aphelia, 1080 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:57.920 New Zealand, Korea For our UK based friends, how do 1081 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:02.400 you feel about that? November nineteenth? Really because that's also 1082 00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:03.320 cyberpunk Day. 1083 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:07.599 I feel like, what the hell we've moved beyond this? 1084 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:09.960 This is this is not a thing that happens anymore. 1085 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.639 This is such a backwards way of doing things, and 1086 00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.599 that's what it's for me. It's just frustrating. So I 1087 00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:18.599 have to now sit around for a week and watch 1088 00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.920 all of you and listen to this fantastic podcast talk 1089 00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.440 about how great the PlayStation is. 1090 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:26.840 Just because I live in a different country. I didn't 1091 00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:27.519 choose to live here. 1092 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:29.559 My mum made me here, like that's what happened, like 1093 00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.480 you know, like it just it just seems so backwards to. 1094 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.880 Me, especially I imagine in your position, right because you 1095 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.199 stream every day and like I'm sure you're trying to 1096 00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:41.119 stream the new stuff and not having the PS five 1097 00:51:41.159 --> 00:51:44.840 for a full week could be pretty maybe not detrimental, 1098 00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:47.119 but like you're still gonna feel like if. 1099 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:50.360 I was bigger, it would be detrimental if I was 1100 00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.079 if I was the tippy top PlayStation coverage guy, and 1101 00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:56.000 I'm in the UK, you must be feeling that really bad. 1102 00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:56.400 I'm sure. 1103 00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:59.000 I'm sure some only will maybe have sorted them out 1104 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:00.360 with the consoles or whatever they do. 1105 00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:00.639 I don't. 1106 00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:02.760 I don't know yet. I'm not I'm not there yet. 1107 00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.360 But for me, it's just frustrating. Honestly, I think it 1108 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:06.599 just seems so backwards. 1109 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.760 Yeah, I think I think I remember being in that 1110 00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.400 position and it was incredibly frustrating. I think it still is. 1111 00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:13.880 But it's also worth tampering that with you know. 1112 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.039 Yeah, in the words of Cark CADB, coronavirus. 1113 00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.760 Shit is real and you know so, like, I don't 1114 00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:27.320 think that's an excuse, but given that the demand for 1115 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.039 it is super high, I think there's also a case 1116 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:33.360 of like they want to really carefully roll out the 1117 00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:36.360 stuff and and redistribute stuff here and there. 1118 00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:37.239 I mean, like it's not easy. 1119 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.320 It's not like you can simply just taken a North 1120 00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:41.760 American unit and move it to Europe. That's not how 1121 00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.400 it works as engineering that needs to be done, but 1122 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.719 in terms of like focus and where where you know, 1123 00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:52.079 where the employees of Sony are like looking and focusing on, 1124 00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:54.599 it could be more beneficial to them to be like, 1125 00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.559 all right, let's do a staggered launch so that we 1126 00:52:56.599 --> 00:52:59.519 can deal with this stuff. It just sucks that, you know, 1127 00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:05.079 America once again gets precedent over every other you know, territory, 1128 00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:06.920 which is a shame because you know, there are places 1129 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:10.199 where you know, Sony is Sony is like the de 1130 00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.880 facto you know, console of of that place. Like you know, 1131 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.360 you look at like Mexico and Spain and that kind 1132 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:19.880 of stuff. They're a PlayStation like nation, like in more 1133 00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:21.360 ways than America. 1134 00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:26.280 Mexico is on that that that November twelfth list. The 1135 00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:29.119 thing that I found curious was Australia because I've always 1136 00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:32.639 understood Australia to be more Xbox focused, Like every Australian 1137 00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:38.199 I know is like like primarily Xbox over PlayStation like 1138 00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:41.440 and I mean I know I know a good amount 1139 00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.599 of Australians, I would say for for the average American, 1140 00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.880 But so that was a surprising one to me, Like 1141 00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.800 Australia over the UK because I I I would say, 1142 00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:52.760 like my impression of the UK is that there's a 1143 00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:59.079 lot more PlayStation So I mean, I yeah, you can't really, 1144 00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:02.159 you really can't discount the effect of COVID on production. 1145 00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:05.920 I'm surprised that, you know, like like we're hitting these 1146 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:09.360 November targets, Like I wasn't entirely confident that we were 1147 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:13.119 going to hit November for these consoles given the year 1148 00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.840 we've had. So that's something it is, like it's just 1149 00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.440 funny because both of them have their confusing things right. 1150 00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:21.239 Like earlier today I had a meeting with my boss 1151 00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:23.599 and I kept saying the Xbox one X and I 1152 00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:29.239 could not stop saying the one X Series X. 1153 00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:31.719 Before we get too off topic here, I do want 1154 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:33.760 to touch on the pre order situation a little bit 1155 00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:37.639 because that was a mess. Like that was that was 1156 00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:38.440 an actual mess. 1157 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:40.800 It was because she didn't get one. 1158 00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:47.079 Sure I got but like they said. 1159 00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:51.360 Pre orders would start today that one. I guess just 1160 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:56.639 one outlet or one uh retailer broke that and all 1161 00:54:56.679 --> 00:54:59.960 of them started doing it. Like I sent my email 1162 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:03.199 Sony being like, hey can I pre order when this 1163 00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:05.360 thing comes available? Didn't get a response. A lot of 1164 00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.400 people just didn't get a response like it is, it's 1165 00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:10.760 a mess like I it's it's wild. 1166 00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:14.239 It's for me again. 1167 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:16.679 It comes down to everything that we've already just spoken about, 1168 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.599 really right, it's just a messaging and marketing. You've got 1169 00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:22.239 to have that stuff on lock, like you can't, you 1170 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:23.480 can't have lenks, you can't. 1171 00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:24.079 But you're right. 1172 00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:26.559 One one retailer goes early. That's what happened over in 1173 00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:30.159 the UK. Game went early and links are being thrown 1174 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:33.639 about everywhere. The Smiths have gone and I'm like, okay, 1175 00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:35.760 I feel so bad. I stayed up because I did 1176 00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:38.679 a reaction to the press conference. But what I know, 1177 00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:40.639 all my friends are in all my friends who work 1178 00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.800 in the building trades, they were in bed by eight o'clock. 1179 00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.320 But they're gonna want to PlayStation now. They have no chance. 1180 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.400 We know how limited these consoles are going to be anyway, 1181 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:51.440 and around Christmas their kids are gonna want them. And 1182 00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:54.079 it's just one of those things around like, oh man, 1183 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:56.039 I feel bad. I've already had people in my dms 1184 00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:58.599 because for some reason, people think I actually have some 1185 00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.480 power around anywhere, which I do not, and they're like, 1186 00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:04.320 so can you get me two PlayStations. I'm like, what 1187 00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:06.559 do you want to buy? I don't work at Sony. 1188 00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.880 What'd you feel about him making PlayStations? Like, but yeah, 1189 00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:11.679 it's just it's it's a shame. It's I think it's 1190 00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.159 a shame for everybody who wanted to try. It should 1191 00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:17.039 have been fair for everybody, not the select few that 1192 00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.599 were awake at the right time and things like that. 1193 00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:24.599 M yeah, I don't think there's much that idea is. 1194 00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.199 The lack of clarity is frustrating, especially given that you know, 1195 00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:30.880 Sony said, oh, you know, we'll give people plenty of 1196 00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:33.239 heads up notice so that they can get prepared. 1197 00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:34.760 And it's like, did you did you give us? 1198 00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:39.400 Because I mean, it's not entirely their fault, because the 1199 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:42.440 retailers kind of like but at the same time, you 1200 00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:44.440 got to you've got to make sure that you're making 1201 00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.199 those arrangements with retailers. Man, Like, you spend a lot 1202 00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:50.880 of time enforcing policies on various other businesses and industries 1203 00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:51.559 around the world. 1204 00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:53.039 You can't. You got to do it for retail too 1205 00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:55.519 if you want to that consistency. 1206 00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:58.320 And yeah, it's pretty much a lot of people feeling 1207 00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:02.000 slighted now, which unfortun has pretty much rained or their parade, 1208 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:04.239 Like they had a good thing going yesterday where everyone 1209 00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.360 was super excited and then getting you know, primed to 1210 00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:12.400 pre order when that time came, and now like some 1211 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:14.320 people would have gone to bed and woken up and 1212 00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:17.559 realized there's no PS fives left to pre order because 1213 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:20.360 they're all gone, and Sony kind of didn't give them 1214 00:57:20.360 --> 00:57:22.840 the heads up, and maybe a fair few of them 1215 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:24.599 will be like, well, I'm gonna go to Microsoft. 1216 00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:27.400 Now, That's what I was just about to ask you guys. 1217 00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.280 Could Xbox I'm not saying I don't like the whole 1218 00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.360 Win thing, but could Xbox do a lot better this 1219 00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.679 gen just by being there, just by being on the 1220 00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:39.880 shelf and having a for in the UK two hundred 1221 00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:44.559 and fifty pounds console that's ridiculously cheap. Could just by 1222 00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:47.320 being there could they do doing a good bit of business? 1223 00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:47.920 I don't know. 1224 00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:49.679 Well, I mean, I don't think it would just be 1225 00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:51.880 the fact that they're there. I honestly think, like we've 1226 00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:54.519 been talking about, their messaging has been so much better, 1227 00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:56.599 not even compared to Sony, but like when you just 1228 00:57:56.599 --> 00:57:59.000 look at how the Xbox One was messaged, like they 1229 00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.639 got off on like every single wrong foot you could 1230 00:58:03.000 --> 00:58:06.360 possibly get off on, and now I feel like they're 1231 00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:08.519 really coming at this strong and they have a good 1232 00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:11.000 understanding of what to do, So I think that is 1233 00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:13.320 going to be in their favorite quite a bit. I 1234 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:16.679 think Sony will probably outsell the PlayStation five, will almost 1235 00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:20.800 definitely outsell the Xbox, but I think starting out it's 1236 00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.559 going to be pretty close. I wouldn't be surprised if 1237 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:26.480 Xbox does kind of come out ahead maybe a little 1238 00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:28.960 bit early on, just because that. I think the big 1239 00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:31.960 thing that Microsoft doesn't really have for it is the 1240 00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:35.480 fact that all of these games, like I'm going to 1241 00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:37.400 play all these games on my PC, you know, like 1242 00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:41.000 I'll get it at a series X because for work 1243 00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:42.960 like to capture, to do all that kind of stuff. 1244 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.199 But if I wasn't doing this, I've said it before 1245 00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.239 on the podcast, I probably would just be playing these 1246 00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.480 games on my PC. But you know, Phil Spencers doesn't 1247 00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.440 care about how many people buy. He just wants people 1248 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:54.280 on game Pass. And I'm on game Pass, so he's 1249 00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:57.039 already got me to an extent. I guess, right, exactly. 1250 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.519 Yeah, I mean I do see a case where I mean, 1251 00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.119 so like if you're looking at the November tenth versus 1252 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.719 November twelfth, I don't think that's like a major difference 1253 00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:09.199 from the average person. But if we're looking at November 1254 00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.159 tenth versus November nineteenth, if I'm someone, I mean, you 1255 00:59:12.239 --> 00:59:16.599 got Valhalla coming out November tenth, If you're really really 1256 00:59:16.639 --> 00:59:20.519 into Assassin's creat if you're not a PC person, like 1257 00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:23.559 you got that's the Xbox is your option for that. 1258 00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:26.760 And then you know, if I'm waiting for Cyberpunk and 1259 00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:29.000 I don't know, I'm getting my my PS five on 1260 00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:30.679 the nineteenth, but I can get my Xbox on the 1261 00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:33.000 tenth and like be ready and if there are pre 1262 00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.559 loads or whatever, that's going to look like like and 1263 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.119 if I'm like day one, I want to play a 1264 00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:41.119 cyberpunk like I do see the case where that might 1265 00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:44.559 be the tipping like the deciding factor for some people, 1266 00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:46.960 because I do think like for the majority of people, 1267 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.760 you're going to be it's just going to be driven 1268 00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:51.280 by what game do I want to play and what 1269 00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:57.000 platform is my friend playing on? So that I mean, 1270 00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:01.320 historically that has been the the decide factor for PlayStation 1271 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:05.840 an Xbox and Nintendo is its own thing, but yeah, 1272 01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.559 I mean I only brought up the the Xbox confusing 1273 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:11.440 naming scheme because I do think I just wanted to 1274 01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:13.880 address fixer what you talked about earlier about like kind 1275 01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.920 of uneven criticism of Xbox and Sony. I do think 1276 01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:19.599 that you see that sometimes, and I think, like I 1277 01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.360 think there is a lot of Sony loyalty that comes 1278 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:24.840 with a lot of those exclusive games, and it really 1279 01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.559 does come down to the games. I think there's you 1280 01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:30.199 kind of have nostalgia goggles. I think definite people definitely 1281 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:33.280 do that with Nintendo and forgive Nintendo for their like 1282 01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:35.719 weird quirky thing. I mean forgive maybe isn't the right word, 1283 01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:39.360 like tolerate some like some annoying things because it's like, 1284 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:43.840 wells Nintendo. I think, you know, maybe it's like a 1285 01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:45.840 canned answer to say it depends on the games. But 1286 01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:51.119 I do think that, like as far as the messaging 1287 01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:54.880 goes for the new Xboxes and the PS five, like, 1288 01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.440 I do think both have had some stumbling blocks. I 1289 01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:03.920 think the name scheme for the series Xbox series series, 1290 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:07.159 and then you know the pre orders for PS five, 1291 01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.119 the staggered launch dates. I mean there's there's some stumbling 1292 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:13.519 blocks for both. So I do think like it has 1293 01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:15.719 to come down to what platform am I going to 1294 01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:17.159 be able to play the game I want to play? 1295 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:20.719 Yeah, And I mean to your point too, Kelly, Like 1296 01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.679 I imagine a lot of people, like if you're not 1297 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:27.400 playing on PC, you probably have like that old Xbox 1298 01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:30.599 like Xbox one s to the original Xbox One, and 1299 01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:33.000 like man to get into the next gen for you know, 1300 01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:36.039 three hundred bucks if you're here, like that's a pretty 1301 01:01:36.039 --> 01:01:38.280 good deal. And especially like you're saying, if you're excited 1302 01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:40.039 for Cyberpunk but you want to play it on next 1303 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:42.559 gen and you can't find a PlayStation, but you can 1304 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.639 find a series suh. I think I may have mixed 1305 01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:47.480 those up at some point. But if you if you 1306 01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:49.360 can find a series s, it's like, okay, well then 1307 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.920 I can. At least I think they said ray Tracing 1308 01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:53.880 is going to be on next gen consoles for Cyberpunk, 1309 01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:55.800 like you can you can be a part of that, 1310 01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.119 which which I imagine is like a big seller for a 1311 01:01:59.159 --> 01:01:59.760 lot of people. 1312 01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:02.679 Yeah, and like specifically with Cyberpunk, I mean, this is 1313 01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:04.679 this is something I have to take into account for work, 1314 01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:06.960 which is why I'm thinking about it. Is the cost 1315 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:09.559 for me to upgrade my PC to a place where 1316 01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.360 I can play Cyberpunk is a lot higher than the 1317 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:16.119 cost to upgrade to that an Xbox or a PS five. 1318 01:02:16.159 --> 01:02:17.920 I mean for me, it's not going to depend on 1319 01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:23.039 the timing necessarily, but like I have a standard PS 1320 01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:26.000 four and I have a standard Xbox, I'm not confident 1321 01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:28.000 I can run Cyberpunk on those. I don't think I 1322 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:32.199 can run Cyberpunk on my PC. So it like playing 1323 01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:35.840 on an next gen console is going to be really 1324 01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:37.960 beneficial for me. And I think when you look at 1325 01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:42.599 the cost to like the cost of entry to play 1326 01:02:42.679 --> 01:02:45.320 a game like that, like top of the line, super 1327 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:52.280 high tech, like really demanding technologically technically, not technologically, I 1328 01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:55.880 do think like, especially if you're in a region that 1329 01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:00.280 isn't getting the PS five on the nineteenth, it might 1330 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.039 be safer to go for Xbox because at least you 1331 01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:03.480 have that buffer if you want to play day one. 1332 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:09.000 Well, we've been talking a long time about the PlayStation 1333 01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.840 where over an hour now, but we still listener questions, 1334 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:15.199 so let's move on to these. If you've got any 1335 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:17.280 questions for us, you can email us at after Dark 1336 01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:20.119 Podcast at GameSpot dot com or you can join our 1337 01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:23.760 discord by dming mere tw more and we'll get you 1338 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:27.159 right in there. But anyway, let's move on questions. 1339 01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:37.559 This is from sketched in inc on discord. Are there 1340 01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:40.280 any games that you played growing up or even recently 1341 01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:42.599 that you got stuck and couldn't figure out what to do, 1342 01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.800 either based on your own error or the games growing up. 1343 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.159 Pokemon Gold was one of the first games I played. 1344 01:03:48.199 --> 01:03:50.880 I restarted my game hundreds of times because I didn't 1345 01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:53.159 realize you had to backtrack a little after catching the 1346 01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.679 red Garrettus. I thought I was playing the game and 1347 01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:57.639 doing something wrong, so I would catch it, defeat it, 1348 01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:00.599 name it, try and ignore it, and would ever progress 1349 01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:02.159 in the game. I was at an age where I 1350 01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:04.519 skipped through the text mostly and therefore never realized until 1351 01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:08.199 recently how to progress in that game. Well that's rough, buddy. 1352 01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:13.360 I remember that red Carrotofs thing being annoying as well. 1353 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:20.559 Yeah, I would say. I remember renting Okarina of Time 1354 01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:24.280 back in the day where we only rented games because 1355 01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:29.000 they're expensive. As we have discussed at length, renting Okarina 1356 01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:30.559 of Time and I couldn't figure out how to get 1357 01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:32.679 the Kochery Sword and then I had to return the 1358 01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:37.320 game and then I never I never beat it until 1359 01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:38.639 it was on three D S. 1360 01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:41.519 I was gonna say. Zelda is probably the big one 1361 01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.000 that stands out for me because like uh sketched an inc, 1362 01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.639 I did not read textboxes. Typically even when I could read, 1363 01:04:48.679 --> 01:04:50.360 I was like, nah, I'm playing a video game. I 1364 01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:52.639 don't want to freaking read, so I'd skip through all 1365 01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:54.960 that uh, and then I just get stuck. But also 1366 01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:57.440 some of the puzzles in that game were like pretty 1367 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:00.679 tough if you're you know, a young kid, So like you, 1368 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.199 I don't think I finished. I think the first Zelda 1369 01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:07.639 game I finished may have been maybe like Oracle of Seasons, 1370 01:05:07.679 --> 01:05:10.719 and then I went back and like finished a lot 1371 01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:11.480 of those games. 1372 01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:13.719 Yeah, Mine, mine's very similar to both of you. 1373 01:05:13.800 --> 01:05:16.639 Mine's Final Fancy and Zelda at any game with reading, 1374 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:20.239 because I'm dyslexic, so reading reading for me, and it's 1375 01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:22.760 something every day that I still struggle with. Reading in 1376 01:05:22.840 --> 01:05:25.599 video games for me is like the worst thing, especially 1377 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:27.960 being a streamer, because I get the anxiety of having 1378 01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:31.599 to read out loud in front of people is even 1379 01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:33.239 worse for me. So don't ask me to read the 1380 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:35.559 next question because I was getting scared I won't. 1381 01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:41.039 Do it, Like I am terrible at reading things. Everybody 1382 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:43.039 listens to this podcast, and you guys know. 1383 01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:45.239 It's one of those things when doing my exbox in me, 1384 01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.440 I've gotten better and it's a skill that you definitely 1385 01:05:47.559 --> 01:05:49.639 learn and if you just keep doing it, you get better. 1386 01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:52.880 But yeah, Zelda Final Fantasy seven again. I've played the 1387 01:05:52.920 --> 01:05:56.280 original maybe seven or eight times, like never beat it. 1388 01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:58.800 Played the remake this year, which is currently my game 1389 01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:02.119 of the Year, and had a magical moment with that 1390 01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.719 game because it was like, I know this, but I 1391 01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.480 don't really know this. So I never knew that Bara 1392 01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:11.039 and Clad hated each other ever because I never read it. 1393 01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:13.719 So they're just two little, two little things that gan 1394 01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:15.519 angry at each other. I can't tell what they're doing. 1395 01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:17.920 I'm not reading it as a as a kid. So 1396 01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:19.840 I was like, when I actually finally played that game, 1397 01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:21.880 I was like, they don't like each other, they're not 1398 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:22.960 really friends like he's been. 1399 01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:24.280 I was like, oh my god. So it was just 1400 01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:26.320 like a whole new experience for me. 1401 01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:28.679 So yeah, I got stuck on literally every game that 1402 01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.239 involved reading Pokemon as well, I remember getting just call 1403 01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:33.880 everywhere like this is frustrating. Why do I even bother? 1404 01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:35.440 Let me go to play FIFA? So I want to 1405 01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:36.880 play FIFA. 1406 01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:38.840 I love to read, so I was always good with 1407 01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:40.440 the ones where they tell you what to do, but 1408 01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:42.599 Zelda doesn't often tell you what to do, especially those 1409 01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:43.039 old of us. 1410 01:06:43.159 --> 01:06:48.840 I was just like, huh, I'm trying to think of anything. 1411 01:06:48.960 --> 01:06:50.360 I can't. I can't. 1412 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:53.400 Nothing comes to mind, mainly because I think I if 1413 01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:56.679 something frustrates me, I quickly leave it before it really 1414 01:06:56.719 --> 01:06:57.159 gets to. 1415 01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:01.719 Like a fiery frustration or like or like really And. 1416 01:07:01.719 --> 01:07:05.960 Usually if I can't figure something out, like it's because 1417 01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:09.320 you know, I generally chalk it up to maybe I'm 1418 01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:11.760 either too stupid or the game isn't designed in a 1419 01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.119 way that kind of makes it clear what I need 1420 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:17.400 to do, and either of those cases, unless i'm reviewing it, 1421 01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:21.960 I'm like, well, I guess this is not for me. Yeah, 1422 01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.960 but thankfully, like it hasn't happened that much. I could 1423 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:28.159 probably think of like some old, like you know, classic 1424 01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:33.960 games that were obtusely designed, like Bart's Nightmare, the Simpsons game. 1425 01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:37.840 I think that's what it's called absolutely horrible game. To play, 1426 01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:41.679 like back in the day's it was so crushingly bad. 1427 01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:43.400 I remember I played it and it made me like 1428 01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:45.360 so upset that I got sick one day. 1429 01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:46.920 I was like trying. 1430 01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:49.360 I was like physically like I was like under the 1431 01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:51.639 weather after playing it, because it was just so obtuse 1432 01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:54.920 and weird and like hard to play and nothing worked 1433 01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:56.320 the way you wanted it to work. And I was 1434 01:07:56.320 --> 01:07:58.840 playing on a Mega Drive at the time or a Genesis, 1435 01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:03.079 and every part of it was infuriating, and I just 1436 01:08:03.199 --> 01:08:04.920 like I got into that thing. I think this is 1437 01:08:04.920 --> 01:08:07.320 where I learned my lesson, where I like got angry 1438 01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:08.480 to the point where I was like, now I'm going 1439 01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:11.000 to do this, and like I did eventually do it. 1440 01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:12.960 But then that's why I learned, Like, is there's no 1441 01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:15.280 point in playing things if you're just annoyed. It's not 1442 01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:17.000 worth it, Like you make yourself sick. 1443 01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:19.880 Next time you review a game that's not good, I'm 1444 01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:22.439 gonna be like, is it bad enough to make you sick? 1445 01:08:22.520 --> 01:08:23.880 If not the score up a. 1446 01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:29.079 Little bit, Yeah, I genuinely it made me sick on 1447 01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:31.359 like the day before EAD as well, which is like 1448 01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:32.399 Muslim Christmas. 1449 01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:35.279 So like I like I was sick there that day, 1450 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:37.079 and there were people are like, what happened? I was like, 1451 01:08:37.479 --> 01:08:39.039 but to nightmare, that's what happened. 1452 01:08:42.399 --> 01:08:45.439 Next question goes from Chase MM eighteen. Hey, my favorite 1453 01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:47.520 podcast crew. Have you guys ever made the mistake of 1454 01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:50.359 reading the comments section on a game review? For literally 1455 01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:53.000 any game on your website? How do you feel about 1456 01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:57.479 some of the insane toxic behavior around around something is 1457 01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:00.840 as simple as giving the game of seven? How do you, 1458 01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:03.039 guys keep yourselves from going nuts or being dragged down 1459 01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:06.840 by negativity? Thank you for all that you do. 1460 01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:09.199 Thank you for the kind words. The answer is, I 1461 01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.039 don't read any of them. 1462 01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:15.279 That's small, very small, that's very interesting. 1463 01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.640 It depends, Oh go ahead, It depends for me. Like 1464 01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:21.520 if it's something I put a lot of effort into 1465 01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:24.039 and it's something I'm excited about, usually I'll read the comments, 1466 01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:26.279 and if it's something I know that people like, it's 1467 01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:29.960 not super controversial. Like I don't do many reviews, so 1468 01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:33.079 a lot of what I do typically isn't super controversial, 1469 01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:35.399 so I'm not too worried. But like if it's something 1470 01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:38.399 that someone like, like if it's a guide or something 1471 01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:40.119 like that, or maybe something that I know is going 1472 01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:42.520 to get a lot of activity. No, I peace out 1473 01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:42.960 so hard. 1474 01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:47.039 I The secret is that I am just inherently controversial 1475 01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:49.319 to some people, so it doesn't matter what I write 1476 01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:53.760 about necessarily. This is like I think I've mentioned this before, 1477 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:55.520 but I want to change my Twitter handle so bad. 1478 01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:59.479 But I'm afraid you to lose my verification because it's 1479 01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:02.479 the only thing that makes Twitter usable for me, because 1480 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:05.479 there's a setting where I can like limit, like there's 1481 01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:09.039 a quality filter for tweets and it just limits, like 1482 01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:11.720 like you can set it so accounts that haven't verified 1483 01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:15.439 their email, you won't see their notifications, uh if they haven't, 1484 01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:17.520 if they haven't set a profile picture, like just stuff 1485 01:10:17.520 --> 01:10:19.520 that like, so I don't see like bots or people 1486 01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:22.640 who've just created an account to harass me. So I 1487 01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:25.199 do what I can to avoid seeing this stuff. However, 1488 01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:28.840 I do see a good amount of it. I don't know. 1489 01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:32.359 To answer the question, I guess, like, like, how do 1490 01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:36.279 you keep yourself from going nuts or getting dragged down 1491 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:38.199 by it? I mean I definitely like I just do. 1492 01:10:38.279 --> 01:10:40.039 I just do get dragged down by the negativity. 1493 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:43.159 Sometimes Mine's very different. 1494 01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:45.079 Obviously, I haven't got a website and we don't do 1495 01:10:45.199 --> 01:10:47.840 like schored reviews. We do have a website, but we 1496 01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:49.720 don't do schored reviews really, and I don't. I don't 1497 01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:52.319 write for the website. I mainly do YouTube content, which 1498 01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:56.800 again it can be assessmole, especially being mixed rice on 1499 01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.840 the internet. Very hard. I've saw of learned. I've got 1500 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:02.800 quite tough skin. It's just the way I was brought up, 1501 01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:04.920 sort of. You have to be in from London, being 1502 01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:08.560 from England, being from a cancer or states that which 1503 01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:10.079 is I think it's like the projects for you guys 1504 01:11:10.079 --> 01:11:10.560 in America. 1505 01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:11.800 I think it's like that sort of thing. 1506 01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:15.279 For me, it's a case of I've learned very quickly 1507 01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:18.159 that I don't listen to all of the good and 1508 01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:21.079 I don't listen to all of the bad. They're both 1509 01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:23.640 neutral because you can get high on your own supply 1510 01:11:23.720 --> 01:11:26.000 a way too much. Where I'm sitting here with you 1511 01:11:26.039 --> 01:11:27.760 guys to see a dream come true for me, right, 1512 01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:29.680 but I have to treat that with the same thing 1513 01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:31.439 as when I do my Xbox in me, just like 1514 01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:34.039 when I've done anything else, because as soon as you 1515 01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:36.840 come up a little bit too much, people are quick 1516 01:11:36.880 --> 01:11:38.720 to drag you down. And as soon as you're a 1517 01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:40.359 little bit. Do you understand what I mean by that? 1518 01:11:40.399 --> 01:11:45.479 The only time I don't have tolerance for stupid comments. Again, 1519 01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:47.399 if you don't like what I say, no problem. If 1520 01:11:47.399 --> 01:11:49.199 you don't like my voice, no problem. If you think 1521 01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:51.600 I'm this, no problem. Like that's not a problem with me. 1522 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:55.119 But when you're racist or just rude for no reason, 1523 01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:57.399 that's when I have a problem. But yeah, I read 1524 01:11:58.039 --> 01:11:59.680 all of my comments. I read as me as my 1525 01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:02.319 tweet as I can. I try and respond even in 1526 01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:05.399 sometime in a passive aggressive way. And by sometimes I 1527 01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:07.239 mean most of the time. Probably I don't see my tweets. 1528 01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:08.600 There's a quality think I didn't even know that. 1529 01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.560 I just get verifact I helped me out here like both. 1530 01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:15.800 But yeah, for me, it's I just try. 1531 01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:18.520 I try to stay very fifty to fifty like the 1532 01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:21.039 goods are the goods are just as good as the bad, 1533 01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:23.479 the bad are just as good, and just keep moving forward. 1534 01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:25.399 And that's very easier said than done. 1535 01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:27.560 I've had I tweeted out the other day, I had 1536 01:12:27.560 --> 01:12:29.920 a bunch of some people jumped in my stream and 1537 01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:32.239 followed me with a bunch of race if races, I can, 1538 01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:35.560 as I tweeted about it and that in that moment 1539 01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:38.520 while you're live is one of the hardest things for 1540 01:12:38.600 --> 01:12:41.199 me to deal with because and my my chat who 1541 01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.760 are my amazing community, they know that something's wrong and 1542 01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:47.640 they literally go fix what's wrong. And I'm like, I 1543 01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:50.720 can't say, just just let me deal with this for 1544 01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:53.640 a second and we'll go on from there. But yeah, 1545 01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:55.520 I totally agree that you get you do get brought 1546 01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:57.800 down by it. We're humans at the end of the day, 1547 01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:00.279 and I think people forget that a lot of the time. 1548 01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.319 Where human beings, we have feelings, We work hard on 1549 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:05.000 a lot of content. At least I know why I do. 1550 01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:07.760 And for me, it's like you cannot like something, but 1551 01:13:07.800 --> 01:13:10.000 you can be constructive about that and not just this 1552 01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:12.000 is really bad or I was gonna swear but I'm 1553 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:13.720 gonna try not to, but you know what i mean, Like, 1554 01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:17.159 it's just it's ridiculous. But yeah, you never you never 1555 01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:18.960 learn to deal with it, but you also do learn 1556 01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:19.680 to deal with it. 1557 01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:20.399 It's super strange. 1558 01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:23.680 I feel like, yeah, I mean, first of all, big 1559 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:27.199 up Council of State boys from the hood, bro, I 1560 01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:30.319 told you, yeah, man, got like beating up on a 1561 01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:31.680 daily to go to the park. 1562 01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.199 To day. Yeah them days, Yeah. 1563 01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:42.560 Yeah, I had eight people living in two bedroom flat. 1564 01:13:42.720 --> 01:13:43.039 Let's go. 1565 01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:48.880 But yeah, that's that's I think Fixa's approaches right, Like 1566 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:51.399 I I do read a lot of it because i'd 1567 01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:53.600 like to. I think like, if you're going to read 1568 01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:56.399 a lot of it, you need to have thick skin. Yeah, 1569 01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:58.760 And I feel like I am someone who does have 1570 01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.960 thick skin, and I can usually take it. 1571 01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:04.319 I generally won't get involved. 1572 01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:06.479 Like if someone calls me out on something or says 1573 01:14:06.479 --> 01:14:08.920 something bad to me, I ignore it. Like I have a 1574 01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:10.840 mottel and I spread it as much as I can. 1575 01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:14.960 See the drama, don't be the drama. Like that's my 1576 01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:17.880 one hundred percent life motto. Don't don't get involved in it. 1577 01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:19.720 Notice it, but don't get involved in it. And the 1578 01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:22.239 reason I say see the drama more recently is because, 1579 01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:24.079 like if you follow me on Twitter, you've seen that 1580 01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:26.960 I've started posting all the racist shit that people say 1581 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:27.640 to me. 1582 01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:30.000 And that's the reason I did. 1583 01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:34.039 That was because I felt like it was important because 1584 01:14:34.079 --> 01:14:36.680 up until this point, for years, anytime I've been on 1585 01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:39.920 a video to stream or anything a podcast, I've had 1586 01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.399 people say you look like a terrorist you or a terrorist, 1587 01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:44.880 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, the usual boring shit. 1588 01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:47.159 And I've always just ignored it and acted like it 1589 01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:49.840 doesn't happen. But lately I've been thinking, like, in not 1590 01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:53.479 actually surfacing that I'm actually sweeping it under the rug 1591 01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:56.479 and showing it, acting like it just doesn't exist, which 1592 01:14:56.520 --> 01:15:00.119 is dangerous for people who might be looking at me 1593 01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:02.960 and you know, look like me and come from my background, 1594 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:06.640 because to them, if they're just using me as like 1595 01:15:06.680 --> 01:15:08.960 an example, it might look safe and they might not 1596 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:10.600 be prepared if they think I want to do this, 1597 01:15:10.680 --> 01:15:13.319 I'm going into this and if they get here, and 1598 01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:16.640 the question, ever is like why didn't anyone tell me 1599 01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:18.720 that it's like this, I probably wouldn't have done this 1600 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:22.640 or I'd been more prepared. That's something that really worried me, 1601 01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:25.840 which is why I started posting the stuff. When people 1602 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:28.319 say that stuff on Twitter or not, because like, it 1603 01:15:28.399 --> 01:15:30.680 was such a back and forth about whether I want 1604 01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:33.119 to post it or not, because I didn't want it 1605 01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:35.960 to be a thing where like, hey, I'm personalist because 1606 01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:41.560 I want sympathy. I appreciate the sympathy, and it does 1607 01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:44.000 generally help, Like it helps in that moment to know 1608 01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:46.560 that there's people out there that feel the opposite and 1609 01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:49.960 will support you, But I don't need that sympathy. My 1610 01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:53.479 main concern was if there are people out there who 1611 01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:56.680 you know, look like us, or not just me and Fixer, 1612 01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.439 but people like you guys as well, who have opinions 1613 01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:02.720 about things and have ideas that they want to, you know, 1614 01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.039 stand up for. They need to know that it's not 1615 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.800 all roses and on the sunshine here. When you say something, 1616 01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.000 you might get attacked and need to be prepared for that. 1617 01:16:11.520 --> 01:16:12.119 Yeah. 1618 01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:16.199 Absolutely, And like I too, like really like I used 1619 01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:19.640 to read comments a lot, and I do read the 1620 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:22.319 replies that don't get filtered out of my Twitter because 1621 01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:25.000 I do want to like see what people think, and 1622 01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:28.640 I do appreciate feedback. But like, for me, it's just 1623 01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:31.359 like the majority of the comments on YouTube are just 1624 01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:33.840 going to be about what I look like. There are 1625 01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:36.520 people who hate me for no reason so like or 1626 01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:39.159 like reasons that aren't true, Like they think something about 1627 01:16:39.199 --> 01:16:43.159 me that's not true. So it's a hard balance to 1628 01:16:43.960 --> 01:16:48.800 find because it's like I do want to see you know, 1629 01:16:48.840 --> 01:16:50.840 I want to improve. I'm always trying to improve, but 1630 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:54.720 I I it's very difficult when it's like the criticism 1631 01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:58.199 is just like you're fat and ugly and also you 1632 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:00.840 uh yeah, I mean like I'm with you to more 1633 01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:02.920 where it's like you want to bring attention to it. 1634 01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:06.560 But the sympathy is also a weird thing because it's like, 1635 01:17:07.239 --> 01:17:09.199 you know, I've just you deal with this kind of 1636 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:14.239 thing your whole life, and it's like, yeah, it sucks, 1637 01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:15.880 but I just want you to know that it happens, 1638 01:17:15.920 --> 01:17:18.159 because like there's this whole other layer of things that 1639 01:17:18.319 --> 01:17:20.920 you deal with when you do when you put yourself 1640 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:24.119 out there that people might not be aware of. But 1641 01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:26.960 the thing that frustrates me is is I sometimes feel 1642 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.840 like I only really get attention when I like tell 1643 01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.359 a guy's mom on him, which, by the way, worked. 1644 01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:35.680 I haven't gotten a single hate message on Facebook since 1645 01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:39.560 that happened, and it's like I'd rather just get attention 1646 01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:40.920 from my work. So you do have to kind of 1647 01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:41.800 find a balance there. 1648 01:17:42.439 --> 01:17:45.279 Yeah, And the thing that people need to know is 1649 01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:48.079 people are not going to be creative or the way 1650 01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:50.239 they hate, like they're so shit about it. 1651 01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:53.560 They're so shit. I like, at least be at least 1652 01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:54.199 be creative. 1653 01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:56.880 Don't you use the same boring shit because you're not 1654 01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:58.039 offending us, you're. 1655 01:17:57.880 --> 01:18:00.600 Just really boring up. Yeah, you do that stuff. 1656 01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:02.760 I'm not saying that people who might be listening to 1657 01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:05.800 this that are out there being haters should do that more. 1658 01:18:05.880 --> 01:18:09.279 But right so, the amount of times that I've seen 1659 01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.000 the same one pop over again, I'm like, at least try, 1660 01:18:13.239 --> 01:18:14.439 like try. 1661 01:18:15.079 --> 01:18:17.680 My thing is also on this, and it's the people 1662 01:18:17.720 --> 01:18:20.399 that listen to this are good people who enjoy this podcast. 1663 01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:23.600 Tell the people on the podcast you don't for me, 1664 01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:26.880 I don't. Maybe I'm small, obviously, I'm just on my 1665 01:18:26.920 --> 01:18:29.439 come up sort of thing, but there is nothing more 1666 01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:32.520 special to me when I see a photo of whether 1667 01:18:32.560 --> 01:18:35.079 it's the screen from a video or someone out of 1668 01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:37.119 me saying you did a great job on this. And 1669 01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:39.760 that's not me asking for it as well. But it's like, 1670 01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:42.560 we get so much negative that you don't get that 1671 01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:43.680 same positive back. 1672 01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:46.640 You don't. It's just you're listening to this podcast. 1673 01:18:46.720 --> 01:18:48.800 Now, you're driving your car, you're doing whatever you're doing, 1674 01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:50.960 and you listen to it. That was a great episode 1675 01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.199 and you're off where If someone doesn't like me, I 1676 01:18:54.319 --> 01:18:56.640 promise you they'd go in to come for me and 1677 01:18:57.039 --> 01:18:57.640 that sucks. 1678 01:18:57.640 --> 01:18:59.359 But yeah, try and keep it both ways, you know. 1679 01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:02.319 Costive, I will say, we do get a lot of 1680 01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:06.840 great feedback, like positive feedback on this podcast, like the 1681 01:19:07.119 --> 01:19:11.359 Discord group. Everyone's like, I think we get a lot 1682 01:19:11.359 --> 01:19:14.239 of good conversations in there, even if they aren't like, Wow, 1683 01:19:14.279 --> 01:19:17.000 the podcast was so good. Like I just liked being 1684 01:19:17.039 --> 01:19:18.720 like the Dungan Ramp thing I talked about earlier. I 1685 01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:20.760 just liked seeing people talking about don Gan raump. But 1686 01:19:20.840 --> 01:19:22.760 that maybe me really happy just because like I had 1687 01:19:22.760 --> 01:19:26.079 mentioned it, so that that does totally help. 1688 01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:29.960 Yeah, the Discord has been great because it does kind 1689 01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:33.720 of offer that like like occasionally we'll get feedback on 1690 01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:36.159 our work there and it's like it's like, Okay, this 1691 01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:39.640 is like genuine legitimate feedback that someone's giving me. It's 1692 01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:42.159 not just like oh this person sucks, you know. It's 1693 01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:47.159 like it's much easier to work with that. But but yeah, 1694 01:19:47.159 --> 01:19:49.680 I will say, like a big thing too, is that, 1695 01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:51.760 Like I remember when I started, I checked the comments 1696 01:19:51.800 --> 01:19:54.960 on every video from like top to bottom, like I 1697 01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:57.720 just wanted to see everything, and I think part of 1698 01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:00.000 it was that, like I don't know if it's necessarily 1699 01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:02.600 that I've built a thick skin, but it's more just 1700 01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:06.079 like I can kind of expect the reactions too, And 1701 01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:08.720 I'm mostly speaking just YouTube comments here. Yeah, I can 1702 01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:11.159 kind of expect the reactions I'm going to get depending 1703 01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:14.399 on things. So it's something I'm excited about. Like I 1704 01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:17.479 still usually check those comments, but a lot of times 1705 01:20:17.560 --> 01:20:22.119 it's like okay, Like, like the way I'm presenting this information, 1706 01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:24.039 I know people aren't gonna like and maybe that's something 1707 01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:25.359 I need to work on. Maybe I need to find 1708 01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:27.399 a better way to present this information, but this is 1709 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:29.520 how I am presenting it in the moment, and I 1710 01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:31.640 know that people are going to be mad about it, 1711 01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:34.960 like I remember doing. Like I've been thinking about doing 1712 01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:36.560 a video on Breakpoint, which is a game that I've 1713 01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:39.000 been revisiting recently and I've been having a lot of 1714 01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:41.239 fun with it. But I know that making a video 1715 01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:43.840 about Breakpoint, no matter what I say about this game, 1716 01:20:44.039 --> 01:20:47.479 is just gonna be a shit show because people hate 1717 01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:50.279 that game and people hate anyone who backs it up. 1718 01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:52.359 Like Mike did a video on it saying like, hey, 1719 01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:54.119 there is I know this game has problems, but there 1720 01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:55.840 is something I like about this game and he just 1721 01:20:55.880 --> 01:21:00.479 got like dogpiled on because of it. So it's interesting, 1722 01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.760 Like i'd say, I would say I strategically look at comments. 1723 01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:07.760 That being said, I see everything on Twitter pretty much, 1724 01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:10.960 even if I don't respond, I see all of that. 1725 01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:14.600 I don't have any quality filters. Occasionally, like I'll tweet 1726 01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:16.800 something and I'll see that more replies thing there, and 1727 01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:19.640 I'll still click on it, and I always and see 1728 01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:21.239 what people are saying and see how mad they are, 1729 01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:23.479 because I feel like sometimes it's just someone cussing about 1730 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:25.520 like agreeing with me, but they said a bad words. 1731 01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:27.720 The Twitter's like, oh this might be you know, yeah, 1732 01:21:29.680 --> 01:21:32.960 so it's tricky. I probably should be better about looking 1733 01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:35.039 at all that stuff so I can take more of 1734 01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:38.640 that feedback into consideration. But it just got to a 1735 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.960 point where it was like I've seen so much of this, 1736 01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:45.319 I know, I kind of know what to expect, and 1737 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:47.319 like the thing I have to clarify too is that 1738 01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:49.239 like I'm not even a big name in this industry, 1739 01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:52.720 you know, like the amount I get is nothing compared 1740 01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:55.039 to the amount Callie gets, the amount to more gets 1741 01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:58.039 the amount like like Lucy gets. 1742 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:02.479 For example, and you as well come on, I mean, 1743 01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:04.960 like that that's an important thing. Like it's hard to 1744 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:08.680 imagine the scale of hate, the way it grows up, 1745 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:11.479 like like this is shooting for the other end of 1746 01:22:11.479 --> 01:22:14.239 the spectrum. Like but like you know, someone like Greg Miller, 1747 01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:18.520 for example, massive name in the industry, you could not 1748 01:22:18.680 --> 01:22:21.359 imagine the amount of shit someone like him has to get, 1749 01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:24.800 like Alana Peers or you know, whoever it may be 1750 01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:27.479 in the industry. Like people who are public faces in 1751 01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:30.319 a way that we aren't. You know, there's people at 1752 01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:33.840 IgM that have the same you know, people at various 1753 01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:37.319 other publications that have the same And it's important to 1754 01:22:37.439 --> 01:22:41.039 recognize that the bigger you are, the more you have 1755 01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.640 to deal with. And like the baseline, you will get 1756 01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.439 shit when you put yourself out on the Internet or anywhere. Really, 1757 01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.399 but like try and remember just because you know, it's 1758 01:22:50.399 --> 01:22:52.159 like what Fixers said, where you show some love to 1759 01:22:52.199 --> 01:22:55.199 the people that you know you appreciate. Just because someone 1760 01:22:55.239 --> 01:22:57.880 like Greg Miller is incredibly successful in a big personality 1761 01:22:58.239 --> 01:23:01.039 doesn't mean he doesn't need the same kind of you know, 1762 01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:04.159 positive reinforcement. Doesn't mean that you know, CALLI or Jake 1763 01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:07.199 or the same for like small people smaller like us, 1764 01:23:07.279 --> 01:23:09.600 Like we're not on that scale anyone. 1765 01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:12.039 Anyway, just show some love. 1766 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:14.479 To people who you appreciate and it will help them 1767 01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:16.640 and it will help offset some of the real And 1768 01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:20.359 the thing is, like, often it's not that difficult. One 1769 01:23:20.439 --> 01:23:23.840 comment is usually enough to offset hundreds of bad ones. 1770 01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:27.399 You could be that one comment, just like think about it. 1771 01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:29.000 I'm not saying like send us that stuff, but I 1772 01:23:29.079 --> 01:23:30.640 just keep that in mind. Like you might think, oh, 1773 01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:33.319 someone's probably telling them, Maybe someone isn't. 1774 01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:35.359 Maybe you could be that person. Yeah. 1775 01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:37.359 One thing I've noticed is that when we put a 1776 01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:39.680 comment on a YouTube video, like if I comment and 1777 01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:43.119 pin it with the game spot account, that usually like 1778 01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:45.319 kind of sets the standard for the discussion. Like, sure 1779 01:23:45.359 --> 01:23:48.159 there'll still be haters, but at least like that comment 1780 01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:51.039 on top, isn't someone being like this person's an ass 1781 01:23:51.079 --> 01:23:53.159 And then it's just a bunch of people piling on 1782 01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:55.359 and giving thumbs down and whatnot. But then the other 1783 01:23:55.399 --> 01:23:59.319 thing too that I want to mention is that, like, 1784 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:01.039 like we put out a video and it gets a 1785 01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:03.359 lot of dislikes or something like that, the thing to 1786 01:24:03.439 --> 01:24:06.000 consider is that like usually the view count is so 1787 01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:07.920 much higher and you have to realize that, like a 1788 01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:10.479 lot of people don't interact with these videos, right, Like 1789 01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:12.359 I don't like the videos I watch on YouTube. I 1790 01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:14.880 almost never do that, not because just because I don't 1791 01:24:14.920 --> 01:24:17.079 think about it. And that's I imagine how most people are. 1792 01:24:17.119 --> 01:24:19.479 That's why you know, videos get like a video gets 1793 01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:21.960 like sixty thousand views and there's like five hundred likes 1794 01:24:22.039 --> 01:24:24.239 or a thousand dislikes or something like that. Like you 1795 01:24:24.359 --> 01:24:27.199 just have to consider that, like a vast majority of 1796 01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:31.039 the people aren't just on their keyboards ready to spew 1797 01:24:31.079 --> 01:24:31.840 hey well they. 1798 01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:33.439 Hey man, enjoyed the content and left they go of 1799 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:35.840 the things that does exactly. Yeah, it's the ones that 1800 01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:38.479 don't have much going on. I'm not I'm not dissing 1801 01:24:38.520 --> 01:24:41.479 all of y'all. But they've got time to write that 1802 01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:43.319 mainful comment, they've got times to drop that. 1803 01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:44.920 Disc lab, they've got time to do all that. 1804 01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:46.840 The rest of us, we're just trying to work and 1805 01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:48.520 get on with life and enjoy great content. 1806 01:24:49.239 --> 01:24:51.479 Yeah, we've been going on for quite a while. We 1807 01:24:51.479 --> 01:24:53.560 have one more question. I think we can just knock 1808 01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:55.640 this question out super quick and then we can close 1809 01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:59.039 out this last one. Is Kevin from West Hartford, Connecticut. 1810 01:24:59.079 --> 01:25:01.239 He says, hey, after our crew, when we look back 1811 01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:03.199 at this generation of consoles, how do you think they 1812 01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:06.880 will be remembered. Let's keep it short, fixer. Do you 1813 01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:07.560 want to start with this? 1814 01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:13.560 Xbox had no exclusives. That's how I remember the Xbox One. 1815 01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:16.439 The best exclusive went to say, Sounds Overdrive. 1816 01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:20.479 Huh, I know it to more is gonna say, but 1817 01:25:21.399 --> 01:25:21.920 go ahead. 1818 01:25:22.279 --> 01:25:24.039 It was the generation that gave us the greatest game 1819 01:25:24.039 --> 01:25:24.920 of all time, Blood One. 1820 01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:29.720 There we go, Kelly. 1821 01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:30.439 Uh. 1822 01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:32.760 For me, I think of it more in terms of 1823 01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:35.680 like what was popularized, and I would say that was 1824 01:25:35.720 --> 01:25:40.159 like the game as a service, definitely souls like becoming 1825 01:25:40.960 --> 01:25:43.600 you know, it's emerging into a genre of its own right, 1826 01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:47.640 and so that that is what I think about. I 1827 01:25:47.640 --> 01:25:49.880 think we had a lot of issues this generation with 1828 01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:52.439 you know, pain points I guess is probably the better 1829 01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:57.000 term for with loop boxes and micro transactions. So there 1830 01:25:57.000 --> 01:25:59.960 were a lot of growing pains as we emerged in 1831 01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:05.920 to kind of like a new, more online, more living 1832 01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:09.239 style of game. So that's that's my thing. 1833 01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:16.920 The generation that gave us Garleton a bathtub. Yeah, yes, anyway, 1834 01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:19.399 that's been episode fifty nine of Games About after dark. 1835 01:26:19.439 --> 01:26:21.239 Thank you all so much for listening, and thank you 1836 01:26:21.239 --> 01:26:24.239 guys for joining me before we go. CALLI where can 1837 01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:26.000 people find you? What are you working on this week? 1838 01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:27.800 And what's your Twitter handle? 1839 01:26:28.840 --> 01:26:31.520 You can find me on Twitter at inky do gico 1840 01:26:31.720 --> 01:26:33.640 I n k I d o j I k k 1841 01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:38.640 oh I am you know. I continue to just work 1842 01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:43.239 on reviews, getting ready for some you know, the for 1843 01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:45.720 everything to hit. I mean, this summer has just been 1844 01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:49.560 kind of like relentless, but unrelenting maybe it is a 1845 01:26:49.560 --> 01:26:53.479 better word, but like just planning out how this, uh this, 1846 01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:55.399 these launches are going to go, so a lot of 1847 01:26:55.439 --> 01:26:58.079 background stuff two. 1848 01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:02.000 More I am on Twitter at two more age and 1849 01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:03.439 what am I doing? Because it should be a new 1850 01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:05.960 episode of Generation next up by the time you watch 1851 01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:09.600 this or listen to this. Sorry, we're talking about Sony again, 1852 01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:11.760 So if you want another deep dive into that, have 1853 01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:13.840 a look beyond that. 1854 01:27:14.039 --> 01:27:17.800 I cannot even remember what I'm doing. I'm doing perhaps 1855 01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:19.640 too much fix it? 1856 01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:20.399 How about you? 1857 01:27:20.399 --> 01:27:23.000 You can find me at mc fix or on Twitter 1858 01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:26.239 and everywhere else at mc fix off se O baby 1859 01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:27.760 s O. Honestly, I just want to take a moment 1860 01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:29.319 say thank you so much for having me like this 1861 01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:31.720 is a dream come true. It's a bucket list moment. 1862 01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:34.920 Anyone who's trying to jump in this industry to be 1863 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.840 on this platform with you guys is fantastic, So thank 1864 01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:42.319 you for giving them the opportunity. I hope body's okay, But yeah, 1865 01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:47.000 you can find me everywhere at MC fix off, YouTube, Twitter, Twitch, 1866 01:27:47.199 --> 01:27:48.079 There you go, I'm there. 1867 01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:51.720 Yeah, shure up, show up to the to the Lads stream. 1868 01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:54.439 It's good stuff. I've watched a few of them and 1869 01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:58.159 it's always fun. Yeah, good community as well. Plus London 1870 01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:00.720 Boy has got to represent got sport boy. 1871 01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:05.920 You can find me at jacob Deck and hopefully this 1872 01:28:06.079 --> 01:28:10.119 weekend a video about where the hell splinter Cell is 1873 01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:12.600 should be up by me. I have done a lot 1874 01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:16.720 of research, done a lot of ranting about where my 1875 01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:19.920 boy Sam Fisher is, So hopefully that makes it this weekend. 1876 01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:22.840 If not, it'll be early next week. Apart from that, 1877 01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:26.159 we should have another cyberpunk lower video going up this 1878 01:28:26.279 --> 01:28:28.680 weekend and it is about the gangs of cyberpunk. So 1879 01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:32.199 after you've seen the stream tomorrow or I guess the 1880 01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:35.039 streams already you've already seen it, you can check out 1881 01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:37.760 this lower video about the gangs for a deeper dive, 1882 01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:48.119 and that's it. See you next week, Bye bye.