1 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: And here we go. 2 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Podcast Friday. Today is the nineteenth 3 00:00:31,039 --> 00:00:34,079 day of September, year of our over two thousand and 4 00:00:34,359 --> 00:00:39,679 twenty five. All right, band, okay, okay, okay. So we 5 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:43,280 got a lot we've got especially for a Friday. But 6 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,039 I mean, the Jimmy Kimmel thing is still going big. 7 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:51,520 We'll dig into all of that. We've got a little 8 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,560 bit of the info for you. The Charlie Kirk Memorial 9 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,320 Service will be in Glendale, Arizona, on Sunday. 10 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: But we've got. 11 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Some thoughts about all of that. We've got the government 12 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,840 trying to stay in business. The House passed a continuing resolution. 13 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:14,359 In other words, that's a fancy word for kick the 14 00:01:14,359 --> 00:01:17,519 can down the road. They passed two seventeen to two 15 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,079 twelve in the House of Representatives, and the Senate immediately 16 00:01:21,159 --> 00:01:25,159 rejected it. So no, no, no, no, they've gotten until 17 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,319 the end of the month. So you wait, they'll wait 18 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,239 until the twenty ninth and come up with some sort 19 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:36,840 of solution there. And just some hilarious stuff coming out 20 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,359 of Kamala Harris. Yes, she's got her new book out. 21 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,439 I think it's coming out this next week. And so 22 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,599 they're doing all kinds of leaks on what it says 23 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,319 about this and what it says about that, and there's 24 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:54,920 it's it's actually I find it very entertaining. But let's 25 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,000 let's start with Let's start with Jimmy Kimmel the meeting. 26 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:08,000 First of all, it's fascinating to see the ratings. I 27 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,560 finally got the ratings for late night television and it's exactly. 28 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 I don't think anybody's going to be shocked by this. 29 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:23,639 Jimmy Kimmel's program, Late Night with Stephen Colbert, and The 30 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,960 Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, all of them have been 31 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,680 dropping since two thousand. Well, Jimmy Kimmel has been dropping 32 00:02:33,719 --> 00:02:36,479 since two thousand and what this is I'm looking at 33 00:02:36,479 --> 00:02:44,360 a chart. Fourteen numbers have been coming down for eleven years. 34 00:02:45,039 --> 00:02:49,080 They're down the lowest they've ever been. They get on 35 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,680 a ratings this is from Nielsen, on a rating scale 36 00:02:52,719 --> 00:02:59,080 to get point one six, folks and broadcasting, No no 37 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,479 show can serve with the ratings of point one six. 38 00:03:03,199 --> 00:03:05,879 So let's go over to the Late Show with Stephen Colbert. 39 00:03:06,199 --> 00:03:10,439 He did better than Jimmy Kimbell and CBS has basically 40 00:03:10,719 --> 00:03:14,680 ushered him out. The door in a weird way. His 41 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:18,840 numbers have been coming down since two thousand and sixteen, 42 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:24,599 and that is because Late Night previous to that was 43 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,360 hosted by David Letterman. But since Colbert took over, the 44 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:35,319 numbers have gone just sliding a nice straight No it's gradual, 45 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:37,840 but they've been coming down. He's had a point one 46 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:43,520 point eight miserable, terrible ratings, and then you go to 47 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:48,639 the Tonight Show and the numbers peaked. They had nice, 48 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,639 big boost back in twenty fourteen. That was the last 49 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:58,479 time Jay Leno hosted the Tonight Show. But since Jimmy 50 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,120 Fallon has taken over, the numbers have come down and 51 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,240 down and down, and they're now down to a point 52 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,319 one three, by far the worst of all of the 53 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,360 late night shows, no question about it. And you just 54 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,439 got to look at this and go, all right, I know, 55 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,600 I know, I know. We talked yesterday about the fact 56 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,439 that Jimmy Kimmel keeps poking the bear and the bear 57 00:04:22,759 --> 00:04:28,560 bit back, but it is I would be so embarrassed. 58 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,120 I mean, if I saw those ratings for something that 59 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,120 I did, I would I would back into the boss's 60 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:41,040 office and hand in my resignation. Those are embarrassing bad. 61 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,000 But the whole thing about this which is making a 62 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,720 big ruckus out of it is the guy who is 63 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:51,199 the head of the Federal Communication Commission, the FCC. They're 64 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:56,240 the ones that license broadcasters. And well, I mean there's 65 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Brendan Carr, even Britt Hume. Even Britt Hume put out 66 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:10,120 a tweet saying the First Amendment does not protect performers 67 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:15,560 like Jimmy Kimmel from being canceled by their private sector employers. 68 00:05:16,079 --> 00:05:19,439 But I would have liked the outcome a lot better 69 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:24,800 if the chairman of the FCC had not involved himself 70 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:30,199 in it. That's where the question about the big boot 71 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:36,000 of government stepping on the private sector. I mean, if 72 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:39,439 ABC wanted to keep paying Jimmy Kimmel lots of money 73 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:44,240 to do a show with lowsy, lowsy, lousy ratings, that's 74 00:05:44,319 --> 00:05:48,120 between that's their business, not the FCC. So this guy, 75 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Brendan Carr, is getting a lot of pushback, even Ted Cruz. 76 00:05:53,879 --> 00:05:57,360 You can't get more conservative than Ted Cruz, can you. 77 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:03,920 And yet he is a lawlawyer, and he is absolutely 78 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:10,439 going after Brendon Carr, saying that what he did by 79 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,600 threatening to poll broadcast licenses. I'm quoting Ted Cruz as 80 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:20,759 unbelievably dangerous and compared to some of the rhetoric to 81 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:27,519 mafioso tactics. So yeah, he's obviously I think he says I, well, 82 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,199 I'll quote him. He says, I hate what Jimmy Kimmel said. 83 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,759 I am thrilled that he was fired. But let me 84 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:36,439 tell you, if the government gets in the business of 85 00:06:36,519 --> 00:06:40,199 saying we don't like what you the media have said, 86 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,800 we're going to ban you from the airwaves if you 87 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,680 don't say what we like, this will end up bad 88 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:53,000 for conservatives. This is my point I was making yesterday. 89 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,959 I'll make it again. I've made it for years. Be 90 00:06:56,079 --> 00:07:01,079 careful what you wish for. Don't play chess. Played chess. 91 00:07:02,079 --> 00:07:05,680 Someday there will be a Democrat in the White House. 92 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,319 Don't know when. Doesn't look promising, but they they'll they'll 93 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:13,360 have a Democrat in there someday. And then, how would 94 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,959 you like it if they did this to some of 95 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,800 the Fox personalities. I mean, if they go after Greg Guttfeld, 96 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,560 he's the late night comedian guy now, and that's that's 97 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,839 what's going to happen here. So what I don't like 98 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,720 is I first of all, I'm not a fan of 99 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:35,199 big government. 100 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:36,439 Speaker 3: Uh. 101 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,879 Speaker 2: And so when somebody like Brendan Carr starts shoving their 102 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:46,439 government weight around, it bothers me, bothers brit Hume, it 103 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,439 bothers a lot of people. I mean, if you take 104 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,000 a look, there have been people that had been fired. 105 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,199 I think ABC was the fire the one that fired Roseanne. 106 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,759 She put she put out a tweet that was directed 107 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,839 at Valerie Jarrett, remember her, the right hand woman for 108 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:12,720 Barack Obama. And Roseanne put out some tweet and everybody 109 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,879 was aghast. The government did not step in and tell 110 00:08:17,079 --> 00:08:20,480 ABC to fire Roseanne. ABC did it on their own. 111 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:30,879 Nick Cannon also, he was on that America's Got Talent show. 112 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:35,600 Who does that? I think it's ABC. They fired Nick 113 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Cannon because he had on a podcast which is not 114 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,320 licensed by anybody. He had said something anti semitic on 115 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,440 a podcast, and they said, we don't care. That is 116 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,480 not part of what your work is on America's Got Talent. 117 00:08:54,399 --> 00:08:57,120 It makes us look bad. Now you look bad, so 118 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,120 we're firing you. And he later apologize and did all 119 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:02,919 of that. So, I mean, I could go through a 120 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:08,399 long list of these kinds of examples. But I do 121 00:09:08,519 --> 00:09:13,080 not like the look of this. But when I look 122 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,679 at it from a business standpoint and I see the 123 00:09:17,799 --> 00:09:24,840 pathetic ratings that Jimmy Kimmel has had, I mean, it's 124 00:09:24,919 --> 00:09:27,840 just it's shocking to see that they were even keeping 125 00:09:27,879 --> 00:09:31,600 their job, all of the late don stuff. So will 126 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:36,399 Jimmy fall and be next? I think so. I think 127 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:43,159 that whole era is a thing of the past because 128 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,360 it hasn't been funny, that none of them have been 129 00:09:45,399 --> 00:09:48,879 funny for the longest time, and they've been very political, 130 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,799 and that they used to have good ratings until they 131 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:58,000 decided to become political. So Johnny Carson and Jay Lenno 132 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:03,720 and all that crowd, Nope, it's not working. So Harry 133 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:07,600 anton Over at CNN, the statistician there as this looked 134 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:11,639 at people's attitude toward the US media. 135 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: There are rare points in which I see a piece 136 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,039 of data and it just sort of jumps off the 137 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,919 screen at me, and this is one of them, because 138 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,360 I really just think it tells the entire story. And 139 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:23,960 this is among Republicans. The media is biased and should 140 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,480 be punished. Look at this. Seventy one percent of Republicans 141 00:10:28,519 --> 00:10:31,879 agree with the idea that the media is biased and 142 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:36,840 should be punished. They absolutely Republicans are absolutely loving what 143 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,600 is happening right now to Jimmy Kimmel. Absolutely love the 144 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:42,600 words that are coming out of Brendan Carr's mouth. The 145 00:10:42,639 --> 00:10:46,200 bottom line is that they believe that the media is 146 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:48,879 biased and should be punished. So taking Jimmy Kimmel off 147 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:53,240 the air, if there's government influence there, they're absolutely enjoying. 148 00:10:53,279 --> 00:10:55,559 It's one thing that the idea is okay, Jimmy Kimmel's 149 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,440 being punished by his own company, right, being punished by ABC, 150 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,919 being punished by Disney. But the idea that the government 151 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,679 is influencing it, I don't think that Republicans are going 152 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:05,600 to have much of a problem with it, because take 153 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:08,639 a look here. Republicans already think that the US media 154 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,080 and US news organizations are in fact influenced by government interests. 155 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,279 Look at this again amongst Republicans, look at the sixty 156 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:17,080 four percent. This is again, even before the Kimmel news broke, 157 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:20,480 sixty four percent of Republicans believe that the US media 158 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,440 is influenced by government interests. A great deal. We're talking 159 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,279 two thirds of Republicans. And then you get another twenty 160 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,799 six percent who say are somewhat influenced by government interests. 161 00:11:30,919 --> 00:11:33,919 That totals up to nearly ninety percent, when, of course 162 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,919 you're not just rounding as if you were you ninety percent, 163 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,399 but we're talking about eighty nine percent of the public 164 00:11:39,639 --> 00:11:42,279 of Republicans excuse me, who say that the US media 165 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,799 is influenced by government interests. So no Republicans A they 166 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,200 like the idea that Jimmy Kimmel's being being punished, and 167 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,600 B they're not at all going to be against the 168 00:11:51,639 --> 00:11:53,840 idea that the government might be influencing it, because they 169 00:11:53,879 --> 00:11:57,039 already think two thirds already think that the government is 170 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:00,799 influencing US media organizations a great deal in this country, 171 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,080 chance that Jimmy Kimmel Live returns by the end of 172 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,039 twenty twenty five, it's just a little bit more than 173 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,120 fifty percent, fifty six percent of the last run that 174 00:12:08,159 --> 00:12:09,639 I was able to get. By the end of this month, 175 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,440 it's twenty percent, about a one in five. So at 176 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,600 this point, the prediction markets basically have it as a 177 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,799 coin flip that Kimmel returns by the end of the year, 178 00:12:17,799 --> 00:12:19,240 which I think kind of feels right. 179 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, that was interesting. There's a lot to unpack there. 180 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,360 First of all, I don't think Kimmel's going to be 181 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,200 back by the end of the year. My gosh, that's 182 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,759 just a couple of months away. And the reason why 183 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:33,039 I refer back to again, he got lousy ratings. So 184 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,480 if he's going to come back and have a show somewhere, 185 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:40,919 that's fine, and I work him well, but man alive 186 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,279 that format of late night talk shows, it's just not 187 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,240 working way, especially the way they did it. And Jimmy 188 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,240 has become like I told you he's been back. When 189 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,840 he was on The Man Show, I thought he was 190 00:12:52,879 --> 00:12:56,120 a funny guy. He's a gifted comedian, but he has 191 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,679 buried that gift by just being a political pundit. And 192 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,840 it's too bad. The other part that Harry was talking 193 00:13:02,879 --> 00:13:06,519 about is all these Republicans are so jazzed about the 194 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:10,679 fact that the government is getting involved and they're going 195 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,919 to punish Jimmy. He's being punished. He's not being punished 196 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,039 directly by the government. ABC's the one who's punishing him. 197 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:21,519 But what bothers me about this is what happened to 198 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:27,080 the Republican Party, the party of smaller government and smaller taxes, 199 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,000 less government the better. What are you thinking about that 200 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:37,000 you want more government involvement. Can you remember when the government, 201 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:43,360 Biden's administration was found with their fingers in especially Twitter, 202 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,759 but who knows how many other social media sites telling 203 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:50,360 them what they could and could not print, what they 204 00:13:50,399 --> 00:13:53,159 could post, and what they could not post. The government 205 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:58,200 got involved in social media and social media. I'm sure 206 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,879 they got involved with the online media, with broadcast media, 207 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:08,879 but remember what they did. They censored conservative voices and 208 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,720 now they are theoretically sounds like from Brendan Carr that 209 00:14:13,759 --> 00:14:17,799 he is wanting to censor anybody who disagrees with his 210 00:14:17,919 --> 00:14:21,679 views on the right. That's just as wrong. It's just 211 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,240 as wrong. That's why Ted Cruz is absolutely right. This 212 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,960 is you just don't want the government getting involved in 213 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,519 the media in any way, shape or form. So to 214 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:34,720 be enthused about this, I think is just wrong. So 215 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:40,200 today in Congress they had a vote on one of 216 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:45,000 those proclamations that Congress does on an irregular basis that 217 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:49,399 was basically in honor of Charlie Kirk and saying, you know, 218 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:53,240 he was a good guy and he provided civil discourse, 219 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:59,600 and he just basically a proclamation of the man who 220 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,840 just was assassinated that he was. You know, we honor him, 221 00:15:05,159 --> 00:15:10,639 that's all it is. Well, the vote anyway, you think 222 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:13,679 that it would easily pass, but no, where did it 223 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:19,279 go here the House emotion to honor Charlie Kirk. Fifty 224 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:25,480 eight Democrats said no, no, I'm sorry, And then AOC 225 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:28,360 came out and spoke on the floor of the House 226 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,960 of Representatives, absolutely lambasting Charlie Kirk. Okay, I know you 227 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,799 don't agree with him, that's fine, But isn't it just 228 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,360 a little early. Do you have any decorum about you? 229 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: Well? 230 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:47,919 Speaker 2: The no group was basically led by this guy, Matchwell Frost. 231 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,039 He's a Democrat from Florida, and this is what he 232 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,480 had to say about everything, Charlie Kirk and also a 233 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:58,960 President Trump. He doesn't like anybody, the President and his 234 00:15:59,039 --> 00:15:59,759 lap dogs. 235 00:16:00,039 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: Here in the United States Congress, the Vice President, the 236 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:07,120 FCC chair, the Attorney General, Secretary of State, and congressional 237 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,399 Republicans are implementing a dangerous agenda to punish their opposition. 238 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: Fascism is not on the way it is here, So 239 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,120 not all Democrats are as far far far left as 240 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:25,240 Maxwell Frost, Michael lo Rosa, who is a solid Democrat 241 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,200 former Press secretary for Kamala Harris, says this is going 242 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,679 to bite Democrats. 243 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,519 Speaker 5: Look, it's bad politics, and those are the kind of 244 00:16:34,559 --> 00:16:38,720 Democrats that are really going to jeopardize the good chance 245 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,279 Democrats have of taking back the House next year. This 246 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:47,440 rhetoric asides from desecrating history and cheapening the meaning of 247 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:53,120 really bloody events in our history. You know, my Sicilian 248 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,679 grandparents might have something to say about fleeing Mussolini's Italy 249 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,360 and they would love to talk about sort of what 250 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,440 real fascism is. And we're really cheapening the memories of 251 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,119 those who suffered from Hitler and Franco. It does a disservice, 252 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,440 but it's just bad politics because it doesn't work. Democrats, 253 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,680 the vast majorities are silent. Majority of Democrats rejected a 254 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,160 lot of that rhetoric because they simply don't believe it. 255 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,480 If you want to win the Pennsylvania seventh, the Pennsylvania eighth, 256 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:25,799 or the Colorado eighth which Democrats lost and we need 257 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:27,640 to take back, that's not. 258 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 6: Going to work. 259 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 4: Democrats are just not. 260 00:17:30,079 --> 00:17:35,279 Speaker 2: Buying that message. So Ben Dominic weighs in on the 261 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,319 message ways in on the message that Charlie Kirk gave, 262 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,599 but also the question that I've been asking he responds to, 263 00:17:43,759 --> 00:17:47,839 which is is any going to be Is anyone, even 264 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,839 his widow, going to be able to keep Turning Point 265 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,400 USA alive? Because it seems to me that Charlie Kirk 266 00:17:56,519 --> 00:17:59,880 was a unique individual, and I don't know if the 267 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:03,240 are going to be able to find somebody that can 268 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:07,519 be as influential as he was. Here's Ben dominic Well. 269 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 7: Eric Kirk obviously has the capability and charisma and ability 270 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,720 to speak to these things, but I think that it's 271 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:16,440 going to require a lot more than that. To your point, 272 00:18:16,839 --> 00:18:19,160 not only can you speak the development and when it 273 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,119 comes to the young voters in swing states across the country, 274 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,519 I've had multiple polsters tell me that when you dig 275 00:18:25,559 --> 00:18:28,319 down into the numbers, they believe TPOSA and the effect 276 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,519 that it had on young voters, particularly young male voters, 277 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:35,599 was the difference, the deciding factor in multiple swing states. 278 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:39,599 And you see it particularly in college communities and cities 279 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,359 and towns across the country where you saw these shifts 280 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,920 that were double digits toward the president and toward conservative values. 281 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,839 And I think that that really is not going to 282 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:51,440 be replaced easily by any one person. It's going to 283 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,799 require a lot of people to be brave in this moment, 284 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,759 to stand up and be courageous as Charlie was. And 285 00:18:56,799 --> 00:18:58,279 I think there's going to be a lot of names 286 00:18:58,279 --> 00:19:00,279 that you and I don't even know yet who come 287 00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:02,759 out of this movement that he helped develop over the years, 288 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,839 People who are going to stand up and be brave 289 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,599 as he was. And it's going to take some time, 290 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,559 but I think that they do exist in the existing 291 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,200 part because of the example that he gave to them 292 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,000 on a regular daily basis, one that I think has 293 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:17,960 lost so much for Americans, but is also a moment, 294 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,279 I think where people have to stand up and speak 295 00:19:20,279 --> 00:19:21,039 for their values. 296 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:24,559 Speaker 2: So as they're getting ready to have the big memorial 297 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:29,160 for Charlie in Arizona on Sunday, the question is anything 298 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:34,920 new on the investigation. Law enforcement is apparently going back 299 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,200 and looking so far, they say they haven't found anybody 300 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,000 else that they would charge at this particular time with 301 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:47,680 a crime. Here's Jim Trustee, former federal prosecutor. Yeah, I'm 302 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,759 okay with a motive. Look. 303 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 8: The timeline, though, serves a couple of purposes. Yes, you 304 00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:53,559 look through it and try to figure out are there 305 00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:56,279 anybody else, any other people out there that have some 306 00:19:56,319 --> 00:19:59,720 sort of criminal culpability, And there's a chance that you 307 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:02,680 develop of something there. But you also are just building 308 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:06,559 the tightest case for the most premeditation you can establish. 309 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,000 You want to show that this was a plan that 310 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,519 was painstakingly done because that's going to affect the calculus 311 00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:15,759 for kind of moral blameworthiness during the death penalty trial. 312 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:18,960 So I think that's kind of a huge component here. 313 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,799 And look for the motive. If I'm a prosecutor standing 314 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,640 up in closing argument, I'm holding up a. 315 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:26,039 Speaker 2: Bullet that says, catch this fascist. 316 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,519 Speaker 8: I mean, there's also the absence of any other interpersonal motive. 317 00:20:29,519 --> 00:20:33,359 It's clearly a political assassination. But you've got literally physical 318 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,519 evidence and techt threads that make it abundantly clear, and 319 00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:39,039 no matter how many people try to obfuscate this, that 320 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,480 the motive was to take out a conservative voice that 321 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:44,640 this guy and his boyfriend didn't seem to like. 322 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:51,279 Speaker 2: The ceremony itself on Sunday is being ramped up heavily 323 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,759 by security the facility, the NFL stadium there, which also 324 00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:58,440 is interesting to me. It's going to be at two 325 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:07,319 o'clock Eastern time. It's going up against NFL football on 326 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,960 Sunday afternoon. And I just saw the ratings for the 327 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:15,279 first two weeks of the NFL season that thirty three 328 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,160 of thirty five television shows in the last two weeks 329 00:21:20,599 --> 00:21:23,680 have been the top thirty three of the top thirty 330 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:27,680 five were NFL games. I mean, it's just the NFL 331 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,680 has a huge draw, so we'll see how it turns out. 332 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,400 And it's really not something that you should be thinking 333 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,400 about regarding ratings, but it will have a big crowd 334 00:21:38,519 --> 00:21:42,599 and as a result of that, security is being ramped up. Glendale, 335 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:48,720 Arizona police officer has lays out some of the security precautions. 336 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 9: We're aware of all the situations of the climate, We're 337 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,119 aware of feelings and then things that are being said online. 338 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,240 We just want to make sure that regardless of where 339 00:21:57,279 --> 00:22:01,319 you fall in the political spectrum, whether you're attending to support, 340 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,920 whether you're attending to protest, we want everything to be peaceful, 341 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,480 we want everything to be safe, and we just want 342 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,480 to take care of everyone. 343 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,759 Speaker 2: Nicole Parker, former FBI agent. That doesn't matter why you're 344 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:14,200 going to be there, or they're going to make this 345 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:20,400 a high level, very high level security format, saying that 346 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,920 they would use for a Super Bowl. 347 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,559 Speaker 10: What it means for law enforcement is that there will 348 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:28,599 be droves and droves of law enforcement. President and for 349 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,000 those that are attending, I believe that this will be 350 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:35,519 a beautiful and safe memorial event, which Charlie Kirk definitely 351 00:22:35,559 --> 00:22:39,519 deserves and his supporters deserve as well. So for law enforcement, 352 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,640 it will be treated almost like it's a super Bowl. Obviously, 353 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,839 this is not the planning that goes into a super Bowl. 354 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,839 Super Bowls are literally planned for a year and a 355 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,720 half two years out. But I promise you that every 356 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:53,960 single thing necessary will be there. We're talking things from again. 357 00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:56,440 President Trump is going to be there, Vice President Vance, 358 00:22:56,559 --> 00:22:58,880 much of President Trump's cabinet, So right there you have 359 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,960 the full services of the Secret Service. The Secret Service 360 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,759 will be going in and doing their standard operations. They 361 00:23:04,759 --> 00:23:07,559 will sweep every single nook and cranny of that stadium 362 00:23:07,799 --> 00:23:09,960 leading up to the event, making sure that it is 363 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,000 a sterile and safe environment and it is all clear 364 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:16,359 before anything occurs at that stadium. You will also be 365 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,960 seeing it's like an airport you're going through the airport. 366 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,480 There will be full magnutometers, no large bags, no drones, 367 00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:25,640 no weapons. Expect long lines. You should expect to see 368 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,079 barricades on the streets. You should expect to see street closures. 369 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,200 No drones will be permitted, likely restricted airspace. There will 370 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,880 likely be a retractable roof, which I believe will likely 371 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,119 be closed for safety reasons. You know Super Bowls there 372 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,279 are oftentimes snipers up in the rafters of the stadium. 373 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:45,279 There are snipers inside the stadium, outside the stadium, swat 374 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,839 hostage rescue teams. Every single effort will be made. You 375 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,400 will see law enforcement in uniform. But what you won't 376 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,440 see is there will likely be hundreds of law enforcement 377 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,079 officers in plane street clothes that you don't even know 378 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,759 that they're there, and they will be walking the area 379 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,759 inside the venue outside the venue. This will not just 380 00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:05,519 be restricted to inside the venue, It will be the 381 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,000 entire area if they were having their retractable roof open. 382 00:24:09,319 --> 00:24:12,000 I am very pessimistic about open roof events at this 383 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,039 moment for obvious reasons, because of how Charlie Kirk's life 384 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,240 was taken. I do believe the roof will be closed 385 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,400 but I just think that the key is that you 386 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,519 are going to have people that do not agree with 387 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:24,559 Charlie Kirk that will be out there spewing negative and hate, 388 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,319 and we want to make sure that protesters are not 389 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,880 disturbing the event and they're not creating problems or issues. 390 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,119 On a safety or security level, we want everyone to 391 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,480 get along and to be safe. It will treat it 392 00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:37,839 as if it is everything, and that's what law enforcement 393 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,119 will be doing. And again, what you're not seeing on 394 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,559 the ground level is behind the scenes, there are analysts 395 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,680 right now, intelligence analysts that are doing social media checks. 396 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,920 They're checking for online chat or any sort of potential 397 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,599 threats that they're seeing through the Internet, through gaming, through 398 00:24:52,599 --> 00:24:55,559 whatever resources that law enforcement uses. I won't divulge all 399 00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,680 of those at this time, but they will be making 400 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,559 sure that everything is safe and secure. 401 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: And speaking of dangers, the President came out and said 402 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:09,160 that he is going to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, 403 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,400 and a lot of questions are being brought up about 404 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,319 the fact that, well, who is Antifa? And what the 405 00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:20,200 President also wants to do is zero in on where 406 00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:25,279 are these groups getting their money. I don't know if 407 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,039 you won't find an address for Antifa, you won't find 408 00:25:30,079 --> 00:25:33,240 a building with their name on it. But there's no 409 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:39,880 question that there are regular professional protesters that do make 410 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,559 a living, getting paid by somebody to go out and 411 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,599 to create violence at the very least and certainly disrupt 412 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,079 whatever else is going on. Here's what the President had 413 00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:54,319 to say about Antifa. 414 00:25:55,759 --> 00:25:59,799 Speaker 11: Do you believe that there is a vast terrorist movement 415 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,519 in the United States that people need to be aware of? 416 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,039 And is it responsible for Charlie Kirk's killing, for the 417 00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:07,279 attempts on your life? 418 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,519 Speaker 12: And we'll find out maybe, But in the meantime, we're 419 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:13,720 going to do a big thing with respect to Antifa. 420 00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:15,960 It's a sick group. I've been very, very sick group. 421 00:26:16,079 --> 00:26:20,759 Antifa causes tremendous incitement, and the things they say and 422 00:26:20,839 --> 00:26:23,119 the things they do are horrible. So we're going to 423 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,039 find out. 424 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: Back to Jim Trustee, the former federal prosecutor, on is 425 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,759 there a way to do this under the current laws. 426 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,519 Speaker 8: That's a great question. It's a combination. Part of it 427 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:38,680 is just sending a widespread message to law enforcement that 428 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,200 I want the FBI, that I want the Department of 429 00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:44,599 Justice to care about this as a criminal enterprise and 430 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,759 to look into it and to try to build cases. 431 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,079 But on a practical level, it does a couple of things. 432 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,240 It does make it easier to seize assets when you 433 00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:56,000 identify assets as being associated with Antifa, and it also 434 00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,559 allows you to pursue a material support charge, which we're 435 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,480 used to seeing with like material support of ISIS or 436 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:05,559 foreign entities. But it does allow for another criminal charge 437 00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:08,640 with Antifa. But the rub has always been with Antifa, 438 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,000 you know where's the money coming from. What structure does 439 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:15,200 it have or not have? And frankly, if it has structure, 440 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,400 if it has people paying to bust protesters to different 441 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,279 cities and teaching them how to vandalize cities and tear 442 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,839 down statutes and imprison federal workers in courthouses, all that 443 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,319 stuff lends itself to a rico approach to the racketeering laws, 444 00:27:30,319 --> 00:27:33,039 which I loved and lived with as a prosecutor for 445 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:35,640 many years. So there's a lot of tools on the table. 446 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,240 The question is whether an investigation will show kind of 447 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,119 amorphous spirit of left wing agitators or whether there's actually 448 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,160 some structure to it. 449 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: So what Pentifa sounds like some sort of made up organization. 450 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,880 Here is a woman who actually did undercover work with 451 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,880 Antifa organizations, and this is what she had to say. 452 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,839 Speaker 13: In people with military experience, anti war is a very 453 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,039 big thing for Antifa, so they do hand to hand 454 00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,640 combat trainings. I was just undercover with them in New 455 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,400 York City over the weekend where they had a whole 456 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,200 self defense class where they were teaching people how to violently, 457 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,920 you know, confront the police, but also defend themselves if 458 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,319 they needed to be put in that position. 459 00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:21,799 Speaker 8: Well, it's kind of open, which I think makes it 460 00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:23,720 an avenue that he can actually run down. 461 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,319 Speaker 1: You know. 462 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 8: The question typically is not what's the heart or the 463 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,319 physical heart of the entity, but whether they're operating within 464 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,279 the US, and so whether it's a foreign entity from 465 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,200 the Middle East or not. If they operate in the US, 466 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,680 that gives you the jurisdictional hook. 467 00:28:39,319 --> 00:28:42,359 Speaker 2: I can tell you this much. There's been over the years, 468 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:47,519 I've seen different protests in Midtown Manhattan, and they have 469 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,000 It's what caught my eye many years ago was at 470 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:54,920 the beginning, at the front of the various protests moving 471 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,799 through the city that there are people that you go, 472 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,680 wait a minute, I've seen them before. They were here 473 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,799 for a protest last year or the year before. So 474 00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:08,720 there are professional agitators and they lead a lot of 475 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,400 these protest groups. And there's a lot of people that 476 00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:17,359 feel about the mission, but they're not members of Antifa. 477 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,839 But these people that get them stirred up and riled up, 478 00:29:20,839 --> 00:29:24,279 they're very good at it and they do it professionally. 479 00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:28,039 So the question is who is providing the money to them? 480 00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:31,559 And that is what the government apparently is going to 481 00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:36,079 start looking into to a topic much much less serious. 482 00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:39,839 Kamala Harris's book One hundred and seven Days a number 483 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,039 of days for her campaign, shortest political campaign for president ever. 484 00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,519 We know all of that. And so she's got this 485 00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:50,240 book coming out next week and she's they're leaking out 486 00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,079 all kinds of things, and I find it to be 487 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,720 kind of funny. We find out in the book that 488 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:02,319 Tim Walls was not her first choice, not at all. 489 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,720 In fact, what she said was that she was in 490 00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:10,559 favor of picking Pete Boudha judge, but she said that 491 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,799 she did not pick him because we were asking people 492 00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:18,079 to vote for a gay man in addition to a 493 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,519 black woman married to a Jewish man. And I just 494 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:26,960 took on that isn't Isn't that so Kamala Harris and 495 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,240 primarily the Democrats, this id politics sort of stuff about 496 00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:35,839 are you a man? Are you a woman? What is 497 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,799 a woman? Are you a Democrat or Republican? Okay, fine, 498 00:30:39,359 --> 00:30:41,359 but then you get into this whole thing about well 499 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,400 but wait a minute, but the candidate, I agree that 500 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,960 I don't think America would be very hard for people 501 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,440 to judge to get elected president. He tried, he did well, 502 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,960 but the Democrat Party took over and put Joe Biden 503 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,319 in instead. But it's like a lot of things like that. 504 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,160 I've talked before about Mitt Romney. There's just a certain 505 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,319 percentage of people that are against his religion that therefore 506 00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:13,160 he just couldn't get elected. And I think the same 507 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,559 thing for Buddha Judge. Maybe somewhere down the road, a 508 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,599 gay man can be elected president, but right now I 509 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,400 think it is a handicap. And so she was right. 510 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,880 But the idea that she considered herself a black woman 511 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,200 and that she was married to a jew and is 512 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,160 married to a Jewish guy, that that would dawn on you, 513 00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:35,839 and that's how you pick your president, I don't think. 514 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:41,319 So what about their views? What about their issues, and 515 00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,160 Pete Buddha Judge was asked about this today and I 516 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,839 got to give him credit. He's basically going down the 517 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,279 same path about what about what you can do for 518 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:51,839 the people. 519 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:55,359 Speaker 1: I was surprised when I read that. I just believe 520 00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:57,839 in giving Americans more credit than that. You know, my 521 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,519 experience in politics has been the way that you earn 522 00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:06,079 trust with voters is based mostly on what they think 523 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:08,880 you're going to do for their lives, not on categories. 524 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:12,319 And I wouldn't have run for president. I didn't believe that, 525 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,799 you know. I was right here in Indiana when this 526 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,319 state turned blue for the first time since LBJ, and 527 00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,559 it wasn't Bill Clinton who did it. It wasn't John 528 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,480 Kerry who did it. That happened in two thousand and 529 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,440 eight when Barack Obama was leading a ticket, and just 530 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,759 again and again, my personal experience getting re elected in 531 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:31,680 South Bend and a lot of those things have just 532 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,000 shown me that you just have to go to voters 533 00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:37,039 with what you think you can do for them. That's 534 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:38,559 why I'm here in Indiana right now. We did this 535 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,119 big rally on redistrict think trying to make sure that 536 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,200 we can make the case for politics. That's about the 537 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,559 results we can get for people and not about all 538 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:48,319 these other things. 539 00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: Well, say what you want about Vodha Judge, but he's 540 00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,519 got the right idea that you, as a politician, go 541 00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:57,480 out there and tell people what you can do for 542 00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,400 them and they may actually in turn vote for you, 543 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:08,960 despite whatever personal id you might have. So it was weird. Also, 544 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,359 she in the book also she apparently I don't know 545 00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:17,880 what she's doing, but she apparently trashed Joe Biden in 546 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,759 a big way. She says, there, I am, I'm getting 547 00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:25,559 ready for my big debate against Donald Trump. It's the 548 00:33:25,599 --> 00:33:29,359 biggest moment of my life. And they say Biden's on 549 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,599 the phone and wants to talk to you. She picked 550 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,359 up the phone and he starts complaining to her about 551 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,119 he heard that she was trashing him. He made it 552 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,079 all about himself. And here's the lady trying to get 553 00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:45,640 ready for the big debate with Trump, and what's Biden 554 00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:50,000 doing making it about him, totally distracting her. So she 555 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,960 threw him under the bus, Which makes me wonder, is 556 00:33:54,039 --> 00:33:59,680 Kamala Harris throwing dem I mean, Tim Walls, I'd rather 557 00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:05,039 have Fudhah judged in the goofy Tim Waltz, guy, what 558 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,039 a clown. But I mean, she's throwing all these people 559 00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:11,840 under the bus. Her former running mate Tim Walls, she 560 00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:16,119 threw Biden under the bus. I got the feeling that 561 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,800 maybe she is done with politics and said, I'm not 562 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,639 running for president in twenty twenty eight because if she does, 563 00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,760 she's got a lot of Democrats that are raided ready 564 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,639 to stab her in the back since she is basically 565 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:35,800 throwing them under the bus today. And still some reverberations 566 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,960 from the FED doing their interest rate cut, the first 567 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,519 interest rate cut this year. Here we are in September 568 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,280 and the Fed has not lowered interest rates at all 569 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,360 this year. So now they have and they're expected to 570 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,800 continue to do that according to the market. 571 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: But it's. 572 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: What has happened the interest rates for mortgages. And again 573 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,559 there's no one rate, but Freddie Mack is the survey 574 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,559 every Thursday, and they said the mortgage rate is now 575 00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,480 down to six point two six percent. That is the 576 00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:14,000 lowest since last October. It's still too high. A lot 577 00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,679 of people in the housing market think that until there's 578 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,519 a five in front of that number, markets just kind 579 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:24,199 of prices are still too high. Things are starting to 580 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,519 pick up, but I mean, you really want to put 581 00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:29,400 an engine on the housing market, it's got to get 582 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,119 down into the fives. The other thing about it is 583 00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:35,360 is the spread mortgage rates should be about one and 584 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,320 a half percent over the ten year treasury, and the 585 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,719 ten year treasury is around four just a little over 586 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,760 four percent, so it should be five and a half 587 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,760 percent for mortgages, but it's not, so it's still too high. 588 00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:51,519 Art Hogan, big Wall Street guy, weighed in on the 589 00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:53,239 FED cutting interest rates. 590 00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 6: Well a couple of reasons. I think the biggest of 591 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,800 those reasons is we've been waiting for interust rates to 592 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,639 come down a bit, and the yield on the US 593 00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,920 tenure has moved its way from four point seven dowine 594 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,800 to four percent, so that's a positive for businesses and 595 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,000 business is borrowing. And clearly, the fact that the Fed 596 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,880 is comfortable enough at this juncture to cut their Fed 597 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,199 Funds rate, something we've been waiting for since last December, 598 00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,960 clearly speaks to the fact that they're comfortable enough with 599 00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:24,159 their inflation mandate, meaning they know inflation is above their target, 600 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,159 but are more concerned about their full employment mandate. In 601 00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,639 the labor data that's certainly gotten soff central life. So 602 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,039 I think the market is really celebrating a couple of things, 603 00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:36,800 an artificial intelligence revolution and a favorable interest rate environment 604 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,920 that is just starting. 605 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,159 Speaker 2: So how did the markets today? We set records yesterday, Well, 606 00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:45,679 we set new records today. The Dow new record high 607 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,480 of one hundred seventy two, the Dow at forty six thousand, 608 00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:53,320 three point fifteen, the SMP up thirty two, the NASDAK 609 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,679 up one hundred and sixty, all of those are records. 610 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,920 The price of gold up forty one dollars to thirty 611 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,880 seven nineteen, oil fell almost a buckets at sixty two 612 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,920 dollars and some change. So that's it for today. I 613 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,119 hope you have a wonderful weekend. We'll be back on Monday. 614 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,280 We hope to see you then