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<v Speaker 1>See the problem with this bump is you can't step

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<v Speaker 1>over it. You have to let it play. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>pick this, Chris? This is James Penn approved.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, a little Phil Collins on a Wednesday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Camaradie live in STUDIOK happy Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good man. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good? You look a little weathered.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been it's been a while since I've been in studios.

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<v Speaker 3>We had we had kind of had a gap where

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<v Speaker 3>everybody was going every which way the last month or so. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>I thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, but I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna get there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was out of town. We had big twelve media days.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I did the Portland thing, Love Portland, and then

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<v Speaker 2>officiated the wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been well.

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<v Speaker 2>Last time we had you on the show, you were

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<v Speaker 2>starting the eight day journey of keeping a young person

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<v Speaker 2>alive by yourself, which is why maybe the sleep pattern

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<v Speaker 2>has been a little disrupted. So now that you've been

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<v Speaker 2>a single father for eight days, what sort of lessons

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<v Speaker 2>can you bestow upon the people?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you when in doubt, if you are feeling

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<v Speaker 3>like the world is crushing you at the moment. Remember

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<v Speaker 3>that we have the luxury of for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>this thing called streaming, and if you need to breather,

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<v Speaker 3>turn on some very annoying cartoon, which I tried not

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<v Speaker 3>to do, but there were times where you just needed

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<v Speaker 3>to do the the woosaw, you know, and just relax,

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<v Speaker 3>walk away and never have You can never have too

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<v Speaker 3>many bars or snacks, fruit bars, Z bar, kids z bars,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the breakfast bars. It goes a very long way,

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<v Speaker 3>so bars and television.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically Amanda has arrived home, so you have been rescued. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A different I can remember the first time I had

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<v Speaker 2>solo duty when Connor was about Leo's age. There's some anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like there's like, okay, we got we gotta

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<v Speaker 2>make sure this goes well. I always get a kick

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<v Speaker 2>out of, you know, because you reference the screens yep,

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<v Speaker 2>and look, it's just inevitable. Every parent uses it and

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<v Speaker 2>the only people that complain about it are people without children.

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<v Speaker 1>I always got a kick out of like I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was the first person in my friend

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<v Speaker 2>group to become a parent, And I always get a

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<v Speaker 2>kick out of, like advice I would get for my

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<v Speaker 2>single friends that have never had children. It's like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, so cut it out. So the people that

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<v Speaker 2>clutch their pearls over screens simply do not have children.

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I mean, the most humbling life experience, without

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<v Speaker 3>a doubt, is becoming a parent, one hundred percent on

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<v Speaker 3>a multitude of levels. And I had all of my

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<v Speaker 3>preconceived notions squashed into the ground, like the bottom of

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, a shoe at a rusted root concert,

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<v Speaker 3>like just going boom squishing a bug. I guess they

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<v Speaker 3>would they wouldn't squish.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are no shoes allowed. Yeah, sorry, we're all

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<v Speaker 2>in bare feet.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll just go something more basic like pearl jam. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there was once upon a time that was me. And then,

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<v Speaker 3>of course you you get thrust into it and then

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<v Speaker 3>you realize, oh, I just have to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>I can get through the day, and maybe not even

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<v Speaker 3>the day at the next hour, right, maybe not even

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<v Speaker 3>the next hour, the next ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's moment by moment at times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now there's this great Louis Louis c K bid

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<v Speaker 2>saw Louis c K and Ogett called, oh so you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't end up phenomenal? I know that we've got to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, the stuff he did isn't okay. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's still very funny. Yeah, but he has this great

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<v Speaker 2>bid where it's like, yeah, before you become a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, I will show my child the wonders of

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<v Speaker 2>the world and we will always be doing. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you become a parent, You're like, oh my gosh, how

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<v Speaker 2>do I keep it alive? Like that's that's the day

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<v Speaker 2>to day goal, to make sure you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Screwed it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, breakfast parts and television.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy for you, and I'm proud of you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And the weather thing was a bit. I just know

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<v Speaker 2>you're coming off the eight day stretch where you had to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of hang out with Leo and make

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<v Speaker 2>sure everything went well. So welcome home, Amanda. Glad you survived,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, c K. Tomorrow is the opening of the

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<v Speaker 2>summer transfer window in the world of Major League Soccer.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to some college football. Everybody. It's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The Score Act. Please don't ask me, because I have

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<v Speaker 3>no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to talk about the Score Act. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about collective collective bargaining and unionizing and such.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that is stuck in Washington. It is probably

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<v Speaker 2>not going to go through. Matt Brown joined us. Last

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<v Speaker 2>segment we covered all that we're gonna do, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's been interesting. Pablo a couple weeks ago, hops

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. He's like, we're going to sign for

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<v Speaker 2>four players, so we're expecting four players. Kurt's a little

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<v Speaker 2>more tempered, Jason's like everybody's dad. It's hard to exactly

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<v Speaker 2>understand exactly how this is going to go.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you expecting once the window opens?

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple players, what positions, and what do you think it

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<v Speaker 2>means for RSL?

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<v Speaker 3>So, based on reports internationally and based off what I've

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<v Speaker 3>been told, rsel's planning on bringing in two number nine

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<v Speaker 3>one out and out number nine old school throwback center

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<v Speaker 3>forward yep, doesn't necessarily need to beat guys one on one,

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<v Speaker 3>but is there for uh service from the wide area. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Catron swingers exactly. And then another guy, Ruwan Cruz

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<v Speaker 3>who's been at Botafogo, a club that RSL is too

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<v Speaker 3>familiar with because they moved for since Avarino there and

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<v Speaker 3>then your guy uh Elias what was it Ilias manuel Man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>ended up going there after saying he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>come here. So it sounds like those two are either

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<v Speaker 3>done or close to being done. And then if that's

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<v Speaker 3>the case, it's a fascinating decision because clearly that means

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<v Speaker 3>that the club is not satisfied with what your guy,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have many guys, Big Willie goals, Big Willy

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<v Speaker 3>goals has been has been able to to add to

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<v Speaker 3>the mix. I think he has two goals to okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but he has the ability to hold up he does

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<v Speaker 3>but this, but this, but this new guy apparently who

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<v Speaker 3>I think you pronounced his name last week correctly, Victor Olatunji. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>younger twenty five years old, had a decent year at

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<v Speaker 3>Sparta Prague, which is, you know, one of the better

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<v Speaker 3>lower level clubs at a lower level in Europe. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an interesting move. I wonder if it changes how

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<v Speaker 3>Pablo wants to play. I wonder if one of those

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<v Speaker 3>guys will be more tactfully tactically sorry ambiguous, meaning like

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<v Speaker 3>they can play different spots or or if you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Pablo has to change formation. Basically, they're not They're not

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<v Speaker 3>a good offensive team. They haven't been all year. Their

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<v Speaker 3>best offensive player was gone for five weeks and they

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<v Speaker 3>as we saw last week against Cincinnati, they were the

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<v Speaker 3>better team against one of the better teams in MLS,

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<v Speaker 3>but they weren't able to score any goals.

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<v Speaker 2>So go ahead, No, No, I was gonna say, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just looking for this secondary story because we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the old Tony kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the only Tunji kid the true strike? Yes, oh

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<v Speaker 1>he is? Yeah, okay, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I was going to say is, yesterday on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, Pablo referred to the two attacking players as

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<v Speaker 2>a nine and a nine and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so yeah, there's your there's your there's your tactical,

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<v Speaker 3>ambiguous player who can probably step in on the wing

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<v Speaker 3>or play the ten. Because I think while a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people have fallen in love with the idea that

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<v Speaker 3>Diego is a ten, I think he is another guy

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<v Speaker 3>that can just float because of the amount of hard

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<v Speaker 3>work rate that he puts in nice you know, track

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<v Speaker 3>back on defense exactly, and Diego Gonzalbez, outside of his

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<v Speaker 3>winner against Portland just hasn't cut it. Last week, he

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<v Speaker 3>was very bad. He brought a lot of promising attacking

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<v Speaker 3>plays to a screeching hall against Cincinnati. Yes, by you know,

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<v Speaker 3>due to his indecision. So yeah, and nine and nine

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<v Speaker 3>and a half makes sense. But you know, oursel once

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<v Speaker 3>again is banking on the summer transfer window in order

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<v Speaker 3>to put wind in their sales. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>a very dubious ass considering international players who come over

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<v Speaker 3>in the summer do not exactly hit the ground running

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<v Speaker 3>in this league. We talked about that ad nausea.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've seen it here. Yeah, like multiple times. The

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Souit stuff is weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, Like, they bet on a bunch of guys after

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<v Speaker 3>the sale of Andrescomaz. They didn't pan out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's a bunch of swings and misses.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did feel like there were moments with There.

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<v Speaker 3>Were moments, Yeah, but it hasn't been for a very

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<v Speaker 3>long time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And Jason, when I get honest, Jay, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>when I get honest, Jason's it's a good time. He

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<v Speaker 2>essentially said he's been horrible since he came back from Poland.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it's homesickness.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just another example of a guy that signed in

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<v Speaker 2>a summer window and you're like, wait a second, he's

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<v Speaker 2>got some stuff and it just hasn't panned.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, hasn't panned out. Yeah, Diogo, Lachlan Brook your guy,

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta I'll take I'll take Lachlan, my guy, Lachlan Brook,

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<v Speaker 3>who I would imagine it's not long for RSL on

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<v Speaker 3>the crest of the shirt. And Dominic Marxi, who they

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<v Speaker 3>believed the cell of originally was. Look what we just

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<v Speaker 3>did with Andres. This can be your path and conceivably

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<v Speaker 3>it works if you're able to I don't know, put

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<v Speaker 3>everything that you're asked to put in training sessions and

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<v Speaker 3>style of play into into into purpose. But we know

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<v Speaker 3>that it took Andres over a year with Pablo to

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<v Speaker 3>to have everything click. But not every player has the

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<v Speaker 3>pace that Andres has, or like the finishing ability he was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, one of the top assist makers in the

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<v Speaker 3>league last year before he moved. So three swings and

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<v Speaker 3>misses last summer on the wake of in the wake

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<v Speaker 3>of Andres sales, So now you have to wonder you're

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<v Speaker 3>bringing in two guys from from overseas. Can they step

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<v Speaker 3>in and alleviate the pressure from Diego Luna because outside

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<v Speaker 3>of Diego there just isn't much and Xavier Gozo it's

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<v Speaker 3>been good, but he's you watch him, he's still a

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<v Speaker 3>very young kid. You can still tell that he's maybe

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<v Speaker 3>trying to do it all on his own way too often,

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<v Speaker 3>which you know is part of the learning curve. Diego

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<v Speaker 3>was like that a few years ago, which is why

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<v Speaker 3>you know fans were up up in arms because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they were mad that Pablo was starting. I can't even

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<v Speaker 3>remember guys that weren't that aren't even on the team anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Over over Diego, and you know, it takes some time.

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<v Speaker 3>So if if RSL can find a way to get

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<v Speaker 3>these guys in the mix, understanding how Pablo wants to

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<v Speaker 3>play and acclimate it quickly, then they have a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>But like you asked me last week, if if you

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<v Speaker 3>know that that decent run of form, the four games,

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<v Speaker 3>ceiling of this team. The Cincinnati game was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect encapsulation of of who the team is this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Pablo.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I'm trying, I'm trying to think because you brought

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<v Speaker 2>was a spot that Diego did fill, but it wasn't consistent.

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought was interesting because defensively they have been

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<v Speaker 1>So if if if we say.

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<v Speaker 2>They're bringing in the nine, the nine and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, And then they're gonna make an addition to the

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<v Speaker 2>back line. Let's say it's three editions. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that total spend will be? Because we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>this yesterday, I think the Millers have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>is understandably skeptical, skeptical about ownership and their unwillingness to spend.

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<v Speaker 2>For all the promises of the Blitzer Smith group, they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't spend. You know, they did a little here or there,

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<v Speaker 2>but then they ended up selling for a premium and

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think that sits well with fans.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think the spend looks like and

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think the Millers could do during this

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<v Speaker 3>Right it looks to be on the surface right now,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty similar to standard RSL spending practices reports out of Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>Is you know two and a half I think for

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<v Speaker 3>all atun Gi. I don't know if our guy Tommy

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<v Speaker 3>Scoops has has been able to confirm that or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen anything, but that is kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of on part with what RSEL you know buys players

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<v Speaker 3>for like I think Mark Zuk was one five Ish

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<v Speaker 3>Diogo was three, I think, and you know when you

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<v Speaker 3>get for the for the cruise guy coming from Boda Fogo,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a little different because the loan option you don't

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<v Speaker 3>really have to pay all that much, but then you

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<v Speaker 3>can loan with an intent to potentially buy, so they'll

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<v Speaker 3>they'll get a player on loan and then Botafogo his

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<v Speaker 3>club will say if you like him enough, this is

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<v Speaker 3>our price point, and if you want to buy him

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of his loan spell, this is how

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<v Speaker 3>much you have to pay Now. I would imagine that

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<v Speaker 3>will be much higher because of you know, Botafogo is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best teams in Brazil. This kid, by

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<v Speaker 3>all accounts, has promise young player, big stout guy. But

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<v Speaker 3>if they bring in the third player, I would imagine

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<v Speaker 3>it could be within the league, maybe through a trade

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<v Speaker 3>mechanism or if they are going to add a right

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<v Speaker 3>back or whatever. You're not going to necessarily break the

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<v Speaker 3>bank at that position. But all in all, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>if you're talking about money spent, I would be stunned

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<v Speaker 3>if oursel goes over five million this summer transfer window total?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it Rwan Cruise?

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<v Speaker 3>I believe It'swan Cruiser.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, our guy Tommy has nothing on it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>have some info on him in front of me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>big kid twenty four and I think the old Atanja

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jason and Kurt and Pablo have been pretty consistent

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<v Speaker 2>that they're not looking for some quick fix. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to add to the group that could essentially grow together

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<v Speaker 1>I guess these moves would indicate that that's the direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's again, it's it's asking a lot, and

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<v Speaker 3>I would argue too much for two brand new players

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<v Speaker 3>and to come in to gel with guys that they've

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<v Speaker 3>never met, to play in a new country that they've

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<v Speaker 3>never met, to get on those you know flights and

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<v Speaker 3>fly all over the country and get used to the

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<v Speaker 3>the the weather conditions and all those various dynamics that

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<v Speaker 3>you face here versus everywhere. I guess Brazil, you're you're

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<v Speaker 3>you're hauling quite a bit. It's a huge country. But

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<v Speaker 3>like my point is is that more often than not,

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<v Speaker 3>you need all types of international players to be in

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to bring them in in the in

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<v Speaker 3>the true off season in order for them to have

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<v Speaker 3>a full off season with the team. But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>always work out, as we've seen in previous years. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>you just kind of have to take take what you get.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, oursel is they're put they're putting their chips

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<v Speaker 3>in on the attack, which they knew that they had

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<v Speaker 3>to do, so time will tell if it pays off.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your highlight from the MLS Skills Challenge last night?

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<v Speaker 1>What was your favorite moment?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Diego hitting, hitting the hitting the targets.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch it?

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<v Speaker 3>I saw a clip on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, Messy though, MESSI was like, I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 3>this and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not playing tonight either. I mean, I guess, very.

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<v Speaker 3>Very you don't blame him, but it's hilarious that this dude,

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<v Speaker 3>basically and we knew this was going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets to call his own shots like at a

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<v Speaker 3>level that no other professional player maybe in the history

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<v Speaker 3>of sports, has been able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I know this is a false equivalency, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do harken back to the Beckham experiment. Shout out

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<v Speaker 2>ground Wall, Rest in Peace ye great book, by the way, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was tremendously impressed at how much Beckham got it.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew why he was there, right, and so he

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<v Speaker 2>showed up wherever they asked him to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>He showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>You're playing in the All Star Game, you're making this

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<v Speaker 2>road trip. And did he get hurt?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>But and again I know it's a false equivalency because

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<v Speaker 2>Beckham is not messy, because nobody's messy. But you think

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<v Speaker 2>MLS is recouping what they hoped to recoup based off

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<v Speaker 2>of the investment.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great question, I wonder, And this will come

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<v Speaker 3>out probably in the coming years, like what the Apple

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<v Speaker 3>deal really was able to accomplish, if, if anything at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think the returns have been great.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. By all accounts, probably not. But the reality

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<v Speaker 3>is is you're able to sign the best player of

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<v Speaker 3>all time and bring him in. But we talk about this,

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<v Speaker 3>We talked about this damn topic all the time. Is

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<v Speaker 3>soccer going to change in this country because of A

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<v Speaker 3>B C or D? No, it's not. It's awesome. If

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<v Speaker 3>Messi came here, you and I would be like, how

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<v Speaker 3>do we get on the train and go to aff

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe go get some Costa Vita and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy the night question. Yeah that's right, Yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>like it. But it's outside of him making a few

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<v Speaker 3>appearances on PTI every once in a while. Like it

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<v Speaker 3>just it. It was awesome. It is awesome, But it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not going to ever it's going to pale in

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<v Speaker 3>comparison to what Beckham did. I think, just because where

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<v Speaker 3>the league was at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Beckham's continued investment in the league and continued

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<v Speaker 2>involvement in the league and desire to spend time here.

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<v Speaker 1>It it really was.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as the Beckham thing could have worked as

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<v Speaker 2>a game changer, it actually did. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>the league could have milked anything else out of that

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<v Speaker 2>whole situation because he was such an ambassador and he

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<v Speaker 2>was so nice. It was the wildest thing to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to David Beckham, this global superstar, global celebrity.

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<v Speaker 1>His celebrity at the time may have out taste his

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<v Speaker 1>soccer So handsome, good looking dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, weird, high pitched voice, but so nice like when

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<v Speaker 2>he when we had him here, every time he was here,

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<v Speaker 2>he could not have been better the league really better.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact, I told you my story right about at the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and ic these stores by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, shout out Virgin Megastore at the Gateway for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Great great location. I mean, the Gateways making a comeback

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, is it. I'm gonna give it. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna give it to too. They got a cool little

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<v Speaker 3>food cord down there. But yeah, me and David Beckham

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<v Speaker 3>the only people in the Virgin Megastore on like a

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday and just me just being like hey man, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, hey, how's it going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, cool, No, that's rad.

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<v Speaker 2>The kids will never understand the era in life where

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<v Speaker 2>you heard one good song and then had to go

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<v Speaker 2>pay seventeen ninety nine for a CD. It mostly sucked

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<v Speaker 2>that Sadur of Born good song. Spotify would have saved

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<v Speaker 2>me so much money.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good way. That's a good point. We should

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<v Speaker 3>rank our top five underwhelming album purchases of all time

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<v Speaker 3>next week. I will come back. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to think about that one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one. We can even put in a

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<v Speaker 3>little breakout graphic. Top five, you know, top five spans

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<v Speaker 3>top five. Chris, I like it. Let's do top Let's

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<v Speaker 3>do it on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>I I have one answer right off the top of

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<v Speaker 2>my head. Okay, I was in high school and h

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<v Speaker 2>driving home basketball practice. I believe and hold my hand

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<v Speaker 2>from Hooty and the Blowfish came on the radio. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>look at me that way. I'm being vulnerable and honest here,

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<v Speaker 2>my guy. I'm like, I like this song. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go buy a Hoodie in the Blowfish CD.

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<v Speaker 1>And it sucked. It was a bad, bad move.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Hoody and the Blowfish the worst jam band of

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<v Speaker 3>the nineties?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't call them a jam band, please, They're not.

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<v Speaker 3>How about the most the biggest failed attempt at a jam?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's yeah, that's accurate. String cheese incident maybe on

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<v Speaker 2>the list as well. See this is what you do now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all I'm thinking about the top five most underwhelming

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<v Speaker 2>albums of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, final RSL thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do some college football coming up on the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>because you reference, you know, last year summer transfer window,

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<v Speaker 2>three pretty big swings and three pretty big misses. And maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>like we have to be fair, Diego has been better.

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<v Speaker 2>But he could not have been worse. Like if it

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<v Speaker 2>was worse, he probably already would be on his way

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's how bad it was for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Or they can't get anybody to take him.

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<v Speaker 1>Also a possibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it deserves a little more credit for

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<v Speaker 2>the I think it was three years, four years on

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<v Speaker 2>the job as the g.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean we listen. He was there when

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<v Speaker 3>they were basically being run by the league during the

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<v Speaker 3>Deloitte fiasco. He facilitated bringing in guys like even though

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<v Speaker 3>he would eventually become a locker room headache, like Sinceavno

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the most talented players that's ever played.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, like I think right now, I know, I

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<v Speaker 3>know your guy Jason is all about vibes in the crest.

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<v Speaker 3>RSL would take a Sava Reno, right now like, it's not,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no question so and I know they had a

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<v Speaker 3>pass with him because he left, then came back and

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<v Speaker 3>left again. But yes, Elliott deserves some flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the results bear it out. And we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what this new window brings the club. Right now, they're

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<v Speaker 2>still on the outside looking in, but have a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to make the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can make the playoffs, you never know what

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<v Speaker 1>could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting weird on a Wednesday with little George Michael. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't hate it, Chris Camaraddi live in studio, any motivations

435
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<v Speaker 2>with you landing on this George Michael track and you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to a George Michael fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't apologize.

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<v Speaker 3>You asked for eighties music. It's a good one, it is,

439
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<v Speaker 3>and it is part of lots of silly, bad nineties

440
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<v Speaker 3>comedy movies. The first one that comes to mind this

441
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<v Speaker 3>night at the Roxberry, the Roxbury, Like, yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a good I mean, it works.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to tell you this, Chris, but we

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<v Speaker 2>are thirty eight days away from kickoff from the top Fall.

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<v Speaker 3>Where did the summer a go? I'm depressed?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, man, we blink and it's here. We still

447
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<v Speaker 2>have a good few months of warm No, yeah, for.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, but there's I don't know. The summer I feel

449
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<v Speaker 3>like is getting shorter as we get older.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair, okay, But you're going to be on assignment soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Any exciting athletic college football endeavorage you'd like to inform

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<v Speaker 2>us about.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I'm going to be going to the air

454
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<v Speaker 3>Lingis Classic or whatever it's called in Dublin, Ireland for

455
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<v Speaker 3>week zero of college football Iowa State Kansas State, which

456
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<v Speaker 3>is known in some circles as the Pharmageddon Rivalry never been.

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<v Speaker 3>My assignment is to go over and figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>college football is landing in the homeland, even though I

459
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<v Speaker 3>might not look like it. I'm fifty percent Irish.

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<v Speaker 1>Are Irish?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah okay, yeah, so might have to go find my

462
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<v Speaker 3>ancestry somewhere. I'll get to be there for I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's cool, but it's also like going international for three

464
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<v Speaker 3>and a half days. My brain and body will be

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<v Speaker 3>not in a great place.

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<v Speaker 1>Takes a minute to recalibrate, correct.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's that's on the horizon. So yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>talked about thirty eight days. So Utah kicks off I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to be on a flight across the pond much

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<v Speaker 3>earlier than that.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds exciting. I have an aunt who is very

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<v Speaker 2>adapted geneology. If you get me to put you in.

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<v Speaker 3>Touch with her, is does she work for the company

474
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<v Speaker 3>they got hacked?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like every extended LDS family has one or

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<v Speaker 2>two family members that just crush genealogy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, do you have one? I don't, but maybe I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get your aunt's contact info.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you put you in touch with the

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<v Speaker 2>folk who you need to go say hello?

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<v Speaker 3>Do they find them?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>See, like that's where I'm I understand the internet is

486
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<v Speaker 3>awesome but also dark and scary. Indeed, how do you

487
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<v Speaker 3>I guess I'll just have to entrust him. I mean,

488
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<v Speaker 3>there is that one show where they have the celebrities

489
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<v Speaker 3>on and they like they track their their ancestry, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's been like, you know, they get celebrities on and

491
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<v Speaker 3>do all that thing. But I just don't know, like,

492
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<v Speaker 3>who's trying to care about me? But maybe the internet does.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good question. I honestly don't know the method

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<v Speaker 2>behind the madness. But my aunt is insanely organized. Like

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<v Speaker 2>every year at our reunion we do the thing.

496
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<v Speaker 3>She based in Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>She lives in Arizona, now okay, but she rolls up

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<v Speaker 2>for the family reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we sit down and.

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<v Speaker 3>We learn about I Will thank You.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you as obsessed with this astronomer ceo cold Play

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<v Speaker 2>story as I?

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<v Speaker 3>Admittedly when I was in the throes of parenthood solo

504
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<v Speaker 3>last week, I missed it originally, but I finally caught

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<v Speaker 3>on and very funny. Apparently RCEL had a pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>fangag did at their expense last week Listen man can't

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<v Speaker 3>get caught Slipping and Chris Martin, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if if if if he had a if

509
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<v Speaker 3>there's a vendetta in play here, or if he just

510
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<v Speaker 3>saw somebody who looked really happy and was like, I'm

511
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<v Speaker 3>happy for those guys, But I don't.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Know that there was anything militious behind it looked like

513
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<v Speaker 2>a lovely couple experiencing a Coldplay concert.

514
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<v Speaker 3>For about point five seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many incredible angles here, like the fact that

516
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<v Speaker 2>the woman is the head of HR for the company

517
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<v Speaker 2>just makes it. Yes, shout out John Paul Chef's kiss

518
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<v Speaker 2>unless I've missed something because the other thing there was

519
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<v Speaker 2>like a statement that was going around that turned out

520
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<v Speaker 2>to be fake that the Astronomer CEO apparently released, but

521
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<v Speaker 2>then it wasn't his statement, So I don't really know

522
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<v Speaker 2>what the latest is. Apparently he's been fired. The board

523
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<v Speaker 2>got together and was like, this is a bad look.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite part is the woman's husband has said nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kind of obsessed with this dude, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if it's like a get out of jail free

527
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<v Speaker 2>card for him, if he's like free last, free last.

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<v Speaker 3>Or if he's like can I get free Coldplay tickets

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<v Speaker 3>out of this?

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna get paid. The CEO's wife, she's gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>some cash. Never heard is it astronomer astronomer?

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<v Speaker 3>What is the company?

533
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know see is this good for that company?

534
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<v Speaker 2>In the day and age where currency is attention? Is

535
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<v Speaker 2>it actually something that will benefit the company?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe a blip, but I want to say it's

537
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<v Speaker 3>like an AI thing, but maybe I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sad in a way but also very comical in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that that's how they were out it. I

541
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<v Speaker 2>do not have a stomach for cheaters. But you know,

542
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<v Speaker 2>anyway back to college football. So speaking of cheatings, yeah,

543
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<v Speaker 2>talk about a segue where we go back to college football.

544
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<v Speaker 2>We are right around the corner Big ten Media Days

545
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<v Speaker 2>right now in Vegas at Mandalay Bay. Were you asked

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<v Speaker 2>to go to any media days? You were not assigned

547
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<v Speaker 2>any negative How do you get out of that stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Very carefully, I truly would like to know how you

549
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<v Speaker 2>get out of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Luckily, our staff size is pretty decent, and I

551
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<v Speaker 3>work with people who are a lot more famous in

552
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<v Speaker 3>the world of college football reporting, and they know if

553
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<v Speaker 3>they put me out there, I'm just going to draw

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<v Speaker 3>some much attention to myself, you know.

555
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<v Speaker 1>Because that's how you are.

556
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, at Big twelve Media Days, there was a room

558
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<v Speaker 2>allocated to the athletic Yeah.

559
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.519
<v Speaker 3>And Feldman, Yeah, Bruce was there, David Eban was there,

560
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<v Speaker 3>Justin Williams was there. Chris Vanini, who is my guy,

561
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<v Speaker 3>and for a multitude of reasons he for some reason,

562
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<v Speaker 3>people at our company and readers confuse us all the

563
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<v Speaker 3>time because of the slight similarities between the sounding of

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<v Speaker 3>our last name, Camrodnie Vanini. So like, there's been multiple

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<v Speaker 3>times where people have like sent me a slack and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, hey, I have a question about your story.

567
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<v Speaker 3>It's like, Nope, not me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Chris Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's my Italian brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Well let's get him on the show because I read

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<v Speaker 2>what Chris so today. Matt Baker, you know, Matt.

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<v Speaker 3>Good friend of the Good Friend of the program, a

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<v Speaker 3>genius when it comes to open records requests, and just

574
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<v Speaker 3>a very very good reporter. He was hired in the

575
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<v Speaker 3>last year and he's been a terrific ad.

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<v Speaker 1>So really interesting piece today.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I guess it came out yesterday because Sean was

578
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<v Speaker 2>talking about it on his show. Because you know, this

579
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<v Speaker 2>is the time of year where you start to read

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<v Speaker 2>the college football previews, you start to listen to the

581
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<v Speaker 2>college football pods, and you start to get ready for

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<v Speaker 2>the season.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm always reminded how many idiots cover the sport

584
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<v Speaker 1>and how many.

585
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 3>Like idiots cover all sports.

586
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 2>True, but I'm always reminded when I dig back in,

587
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.359
<v Speaker 2>like this media ecosystem actually contains a lot of people

588
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<v Speaker 2>that clearly are pandering to the conference they cover or

589
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<v Speaker 2>the school they cover, and their fans are not media members,

590
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<v Speaker 2>and there's this kind of landscape of Big twelve media.

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<v Speaker 2>That's starting to feel like the way PAC twelve media

592
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<v Speaker 2>felt at the very end. Like John Canzano came on

593
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<v Speaker 2>the show and he was basically outlining his side of things,

594
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<v Speaker 2>and it was draped in this belief that the PAC

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<v Speaker 2>twelve was going to make it, because of course he

596
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<v Speaker 2>covers the PAC twelve. He wants the conference to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>It's better for him, him and his business and his

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<v Speaker 2>substack or whatever he's doing. And I push back on

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<v Speaker 2>the things that he was bringing to the table because

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<v Speaker 2>I just disagree with him. He started yelling at me

601
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<v Speaker 2>that I wasn't listening. I'm like, I'm listening, but you're wrong.

602
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<v Speaker 2>This thing is done. It's dead. You could tell with

603
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<v Speaker 2>all of the horrible decision making that went back all

604
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<v Speaker 2>the way to Larry Scott. And look the first four

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<v Speaker 2>or five years of Utah on the PAC twelve. Larry

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<v Speaker 2>Scott walked on water here because he was the commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>that was part of the decision making process that landed

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<v Speaker 2>Utah on the Big twelve. And then of course George

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<v Speaker 2>klaiofkof they wait way too long to go to market

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<v Speaker 2>with their rights. We know the deal and Gonzano's like

611
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<v Speaker 2>yelling at me that I'm not listening to him. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I am listening to You're just wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing is cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>And I keep hearing this like Big twelve media approach

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<v Speaker 2>to try to spin it like the Big twelve was

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<v Speaker 2>on par with a Big ten in the SEC, which

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<v Speaker 2>it is not in any way, shape or form. Not competitive,

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<v Speaker 2>not on a competitive level, not on a reven generating level,

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<v Speaker 2>not on a national interest level. There's no world where

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve is even close to the Big ten

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<v Speaker 2>of the SEC. And Matt today with a really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>exercise NCAA FBS program valuation projections, I r.

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<v Speaker 3>Tied that for you. Thank you, I seriously did. I

624
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<v Speaker 3>thought like this would be good for Spence.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's exactly why it came up on my feet

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<v Speaker 2>because I follow Mat now, but I didn't prior to

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<v Speaker 2>your retweet. So of the top thirty schools, I already

628
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<v Speaker 2>read the list. But of the top thirty schools, there

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<v Speaker 2>are two Big twelve schools. One is Utah with a

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<v Speaker 2>valuation of five hundred and thirty nine mil. One is

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<v Speaker 2>TCU with a valuation of five hundred and twenty three mil. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the top and you guys know which conferences they're in. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all of these schools are either in the SEC or

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten. Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, Notre Dame in Michigan, Bama, Oklahoma, USC, Tennessee, LSU,

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State, Florida, Auburn, Oregon, Texas A and M Washington Nebraska.

636
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<v Speaker 2>The first team on this list that's not in the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Ten of the SEC is Florida State, who's in

638
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<v Speaker 2>the AC Clemson, Miami, North Carolina all ranked ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>any of the Big twelve schools, which is Utah TCU.

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00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, another piece of evidence as to where

641
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 2>this conference exists in the ecosystem of college football, regardless

642
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<v Speaker 2>of what people who shill for the conference want to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you.

644
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<v Speaker 3>A wise man once said, if you will it, it

645
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<v Speaker 3>is no dream. Oh Walter subcheck. I like the Big Labaska.

646
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 3>I like that.

647
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<v Speaker 1>It's good.

648
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. It seemed like that

649
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:35.079
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of where the conference finds itself. And granted

650
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 3>a couple of years of like astoundingly good football changes this.

651
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 3>If the Big Twelve can get two or three teams

652
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<v Speaker 3>in the playoff in the next three years, I think

653
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<v Speaker 3>maybe you start to, you know, peel back the onion

654
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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, maybe you can weasel your way into

655
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 3>the conversation. But until you do that, ain't nobody going

656
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<v Speaker 3>to be changing the status quo for you, no matter

657
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 3>how much you no matter how much you talk about it,

658
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:06.279
<v Speaker 3>no matter how much the Shills want to just say, like,

659
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<v Speaker 3>I promise this is going to happen. I promise. This

660
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 3>is a big deal. No man, that the powers that

661
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:13.960
<v Speaker 3>be are the powers that be for a reason, and

662
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.680
<v Speaker 3>the Big Twelve has so much work to do. You know,

663
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.319
<v Speaker 3>they have good basketball programs, it's great. But other than that,

664
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<v Speaker 3>the moneymakers football it is, always will be, and it

665
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:27.880
<v Speaker 3>does not bode this conference well that every off season

666
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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be able to go in and be

667
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<v Speaker 3>like throw a dart at the board and be like,

668
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 3>who's going to win it this year? UCF Okay, Houston,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, Utah, sure, b yu whatever, Like that's that's

670
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<v Speaker 3>gonna wa That's the conference is going to be this

671
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 3>way for a while. That's the reality they're facing.

672
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:46.480
<v Speaker 2>BYU's valuation comes in at fiftieth in the country and

673
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<v Speaker 2>ninth in the Big Twelve, but three hundred and six

674
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>million that felt low to me.

675
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Too many extenuating circumstances. It's such a unique place, as

676
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:02.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a at school, so probably not everything

677
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 3>is going to always be publicly divulged. They're not. They're

678
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<v Speaker 3>not subject to public records requests or grammar requests. But

679
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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you. My guess would be that that's

680
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<v Speaker 3>part of the reason why.

681
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and maybe it's a lack of understanding or you know,

682
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:22.599
<v Speaker 2>lack of information to your point, because I think what

683
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<v Speaker 2>Matt did is really fascinating.

684
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<v Speaker 1>Jake ratstath Lands are too lane.

685
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, are you stoked?

686
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:29.039
<v Speaker 1>Sure?

687
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Matt Brown, And Matt's funny guy. He had a funny line.

688
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<v Speaker 2>He said, Jake just left the place where there are

689
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<v Speaker 2>four Jews and hundreds of thousands of Mormons to go

690
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:41.279
<v Speaker 2>to a school where there's hundreds of thousands of Jews

691
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<v Speaker 2>and probably four Mormons.

692
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little bit of a culture shock for our guy.

693
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<v Speaker 3>I think. I mean, the manner in which Jake's b

694
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<v Speaker 3>YU career ended is messy, and it's unique to the school,

695
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 3>but it is it is somewhat like intriguing that we

696
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:01.359
<v Speaker 3>as a as a college football system are so fascinated

697
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.400
<v Speaker 3>where Jake Retzloth is going like Jake was a decent quarterback,

698
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 3>but like he wasn't. This isn't Zach Wilson the year

699
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:10.360
<v Speaker 3>he went number two in the draft. Like Jake was

700
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:12.639
<v Speaker 3>good and Byu was, you know, in the mix for

701
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.760
<v Speaker 3>the conference title late into November. But it's I mean,

702
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 3>Jake has to beat out a bunch of other guys

703
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<v Speaker 3>that Tulane brought in as transfers. I mean, Jake's not

704
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.800
<v Speaker 3>even a transfer, He's a walk on because the portal's

705
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<v Speaker 3>not open.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was kind of a weird dynamic, this whole thing.

707
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<v Speaker 2>They weren't even allowed to contact him go they had

708
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<v Speaker 2>to go through his reps Colorado three hundred and twenty

709
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>eight mil.

710
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>That's eleventh in the Big twelve. Found that kind of interesting.

711
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 3>Ninety nine percent of that is due to Dion for sure.

712
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<v Speaker 1>It is for actually, excuse me, that's seventh in the

713
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<v Speaker 1>Big twelve. It's actually a couple of spots ahead of Byu.

714
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<v Speaker 2>I'm stunned that we have not seen this actually come

715
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>to fruition, where private equity has been infused into college football.

716
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Feels like it's just a matter of time.

717
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 3>I think Greg Sinki was asked about this at SEC

718
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.519
<v Speaker 3>media days or one of the commissioners was recently and

719
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.159
<v Speaker 3>they said, right now, it just it doesn't make sense

720
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 3>for their conference. So if you have somebody publicly saying that,

721
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess we're still a little ways away.

722
00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:15.639
<v Speaker 3>But as we've seen that nothing matters. Everything is up

723
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.800
<v Speaker 3>subject to change. It's going to change. The CSC got,

724
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:23.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, sued into oblivion in just a matter of weeks,

725
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.800
<v Speaker 3>and now they're backtracking on all their stuff. Like at

726
00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 3>this point, I understand why some fans would want to

727
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 3>understand the minutia of at all. But for a lot

728
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:33.800
<v Speaker 3>of fans, my guess is just like, let's just wait

729
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 3>till we line up and kick the ball.

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00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most people, you know, I am interested in

732
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>the mechanisms that makes the sport tick. How many regular

733
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.840
<v Speaker 2>sports fans consumers are interested in those things?

734
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think most people, to your point,

735
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 1>just want Saturdays in the.

736
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<v Speaker 3>Fall, Saturdays in the fall, and just less migraines. Oh

737
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:55.840
<v Speaker 3>how are you doing there? By the way, we're getting there.

738
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<v Speaker 1>You're hanging in exceerin migraine, you got etc. You have

739
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 1>it like in a holster, ready to ready, to access

740
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 1>at any time.

741
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Just throw it out there.

742
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.599
<v Speaker 1>You know who will be the m v P of

743
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the MLS All Star Game tonight?

744
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Are we assuming it's an MLS player or Liga ms?

745
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

746
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say I couldn't name five players, man, no idea.

747
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Can you name one other player and that's not Diego

748
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Luna on the MLS All Star team?

749
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Hey, we got to get roosters in here. Did Chio

750
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:26.519
<v Speaker 1>make it?

751
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

752
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't ask me questions you can't answer. Put me

753
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.559
<v Speaker 2>on the spot like that. Man, Did Aaron Herrera make it?

754
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Do we exclude former rs L player?

755
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 3>No? Just keep bringing up former RSL players?

756
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 2>Dude, I don't watch MLS outside. I watch RSL the

757
00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 2>other night. Uh, nothing was going on, So I think

758
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>I fired up El Classico.

759
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>That was kind of fun. But no, I don't watch

760
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>traffic co Bro.

761
00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 3>Come on, see how dare you? JP is offended.

762
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 1>On several levels. C K will set you. It's good

763
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:01.119
<v Speaker 1>to see about things, man,