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Speaker 1: You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every

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thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey,

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we want to one of those areas thirty one. Do

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you wish to find a report of any kind of it?

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Speaker 1: Time areas thirty one? Me neither there. See if it

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was anybody a h above us to pass us, like

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thirty seconds ago, we.

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Speaker 3: Were sending one of golf negative.

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Speaker 4: Okay, OFFI the UFO.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'll passed over, I go.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it was, but it's from at

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least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed right.

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Speaker 4: Over the top of us. Ninety one one. You just

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every liberty four call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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Chronicles podcast. Tonight's guest is Mark in California, sharing his

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strange alien encounters, which began in his childhood. Mark is

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much appreciated. Now on with the show. Good evening, Mark,

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and welcome to the show. Thank you for joining us today.

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And you're calling from California. Now, Mark, you have some

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experiences you're going to be sharing with us tonight. Would

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you like to start a beginning please?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I've been wanting to this first time I've

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ever talked about it, but I wrote it down. I've

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never really like a lot of other people, you know,

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they have a YouTube challeng or something, aliens whatever you

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want to call them. The Other Intelligence told me to

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like write it down. They told me to make a book,

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you know, but I never I just never did it.

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they just gave me a lot of stuff that it

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was all kind of in my mind, you know. But anyway,

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I guess where should I start? I should start where

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When I was younger, off and on, I would I

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didn't really attach anything that I have. This like spiral

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feeling right upon going to sleep, felt like this in

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a half away state, right when you're going out to sleep.

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I remember this low, like corkscrew like twisting feeling where

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you just feel like like really euphoric, like right to

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the center of your chest, and you were just part

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of this chunky spiral that was just going like turn

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really low. You know, you were just the center of

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this giant like a whirlpool, but as if you were

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just turning real flu you know. Just I I used

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to have that feeling like I didn't really know what

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it was, but you know, I kind of remember back

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when I was seven maybe, and then like early teens,

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I would I remember having that feeling, and then I

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remember I was like about fifteen. I mean I remember

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it kind of twice before, but then I remember one

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time when I was like about fifteen, and I wasn't

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even sixteen or seventeen, it was like mid teen. I

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remember one time I thought, yeah, I want to go

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sleep outside. I just had this thought that I remember

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taking my mattress as I slept outside on the edge

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of this field, and I remember that night I had

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that spiral feeling, just like really great feeling where you

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you are part of this quirkscrew just but it was

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kind of like centers right in the center of your chest.

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go up the Willet's grade. It's pretty steep, but you

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hear the trains like rumbling, like you know, they'd be

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like all trains would be chugging climbing the grade. As

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they started going up the grade, it would like kind

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of sneak around. But I remember feeling that vibration like

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think it was connected with the spiral. I remember telling

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my mom, Yeah, I had that spiral film last night,

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you know, and she's saying, oh, you know, it's probably

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just a dreamer. Anyway, So then I played again, probably

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when they finally came. I gotta tell you some other

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other things that happened also. But anyway, so then right

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that same night that when they first came, they put

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remember anything, you know what I mean. So that was

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the one thing. Another time we were planning grapes. This

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is way back. I was like we were fourteen, we're

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the kids. I remember somebody said, yeah, it was there's

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a UFO over there, and all of a sudden, everybody

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thought they saw I didn't see nothing, and other people thought.

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they were running about. My one cousin, Paulus, I asked

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to talk about. Yeah, I remember that one time everybody

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thought we saw Ufo, and you know, other people thought

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there was a flock of birds. But some people wanted

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to believe that they saw it, but you know, they didn't.

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hyped up about somebody saw Ufo, and everybody ran down

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to the end of the field. And it's amazing that

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my cousin Paulus, just last year finally came back and

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he visited and I asked him about what he saw,

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and he's the only one that actually saw anything. But

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he said he saw what looked like a somebody was

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light just kind of like going like flashing. And he

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said it like moved down this one road. He said

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he can see it go between tree, like pine trees,

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so he could see it behind, you know, one pine

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tree and in front of another pine tree. It kind

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of went between. He said. He kind of went back

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and circled around where the lake was and then came back.

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forty five and took off, And I said, are you

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kidding that you saw that? I mean, I didn't find

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it was nineteen ninety three. And when we saw that,

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another thing that happened. I was standing out on the

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porch of this old house, this little red house, when

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because I remember we'd mark how high we were on

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the post of the porch, you know, you see, Oh

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there were small kids, you know, you put your mark.

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their head with a little zig zag electrical going in

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between the antennas, right, So it was like I remember,

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I carved this little alien's head in the wood of

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the post was a little antenna's I kind of thought, wow,

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like somehow everybody would be talking about, you know, a

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little green man.

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fireball go shooting down. I thought it hit the mountain.

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I remember righting up and told my dad, Yeah, it

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was a big fireball crashed in the mountain. I wanted

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to go up and you know, find it. It was

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like just big you can see like a tail. But

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this was like during the day. I might have been

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getting a little bit dusk. I remember this big fireball

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just went like through the big arc. Looked like it

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just landed right down the mountain, you know, I thought.

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still never connected it was, you know, the UFOs or

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not back. I wasn't really that much of a you know,

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it's not weird as kids, but you know, people heard

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this and that about different things, you know, UFO. But

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it was kind of like imagine that kind of like stories. Anyway,

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the other things that happened, Okay, this was one of

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the weird things. Was we were watching Mission Impossible on

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and there's like a little tape recorder and then the

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mission is given here and then the tape recorder goes

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like sho and like melts, you know, it's like smoke

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and it has music. Anyway, we're all watching Mission Possible,

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the twelve. Yeah, we live out on a ranch, you know,

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grow grapes, fun grape ended up starting a winery and everything,

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but you know that was a long time ago before

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everybody's like a commercial break. Everybody gets up, get a

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sandwich or whatever, go to the bathroom. During the commercial,

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I'm sitting there. I'm the only one on the couch

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and it's like big couch. And then and I see

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like what it's like a ghost TV screen. It's like

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in mid air between the brother built this like a

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heath kit TV and it was like in a Plywood.

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screen in between the other screen, and there was like

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three red stripe bands, you know, like when the TV

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is kind of like getting a bad signal, you'll see

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that these stripes going like and they just keep drifting

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up the screen. And as soon as the upper stripe

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goes out off the top, when we'll appear on the

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bottom right, So there's always like was three these red

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stripes that were kind of like static with these stripes

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they were red that were just slowly moving up the screen.

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thought it was like a ghost. But I didn't. I

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should have thought it was weirder than I did. I

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didn't really then. So then right after that, it's like

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just in mid air, but I could see right through it,

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and I just see the other TV behind it, you know,

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whatever was on it. I wasn't really watching the commercial

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of whatever was on it. Then all of a sudden,

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the corner of my left eye, it seemed like it

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was like a room that was downstairs, but it was

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just nothing but a reflection off of the light off

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this tile floor that was like one of these old

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tiles on knowing floors. Then all of a sudden, I

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just thought I saw a room that was down there,

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like a game room where I kind of thought that

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it was a pool to down there, you know, and

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there's like a stairway and there's like a light, there's

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a room down there. But it just kind of peered

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I just well, that happened right after I saw the

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telling my dad, yeah, I saw this Gholst TV screen.

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the floor, you know. But it just was so real

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going to have like a dream class, and everybody said, yeah,

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you know, a dream class. You have your notebook, you

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write down everything you dream, you know. But I just

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had this one image of like a Red Man's Anita tree.

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I don't know if you've ever seen a Man's Anita,

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but when the when they're wet in the bark is

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like just bright red Mansas. They just looked like blood red.

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And I remember Red Man's Anita going like wow, you know,

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just it was just like so real, you know. Other

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than that, I didn't have any dreams that I remember,

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but I just remember that because later on, when they

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were just speaking in dreams and all this and giving

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me all these visions and stuff, I thought that I went,

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my god, you know, that must have been themn you know,

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gave me that Red Manseda dream, because now that was,

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you know, because they can give dreams that are just

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so real compared to just the regular dream. And I thought,

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so that was probably from them. And then I got

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in when I was late twenties twenty eight, and we

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were playing vineyard out in the field and I was

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like the guy digging the holes with a shovel, right,

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because at first they plowed filled up really the super flush,

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so everything's super easy to dig, you know, and just

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like immaculate. It was so easy dig you didn't even

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need to postal you just used the shovel I was.

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I was using shovel digging. It was one day, and

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so I gonna be the shovel digger the next day.

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You know, they have the planters and shovel diggers, and

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you get out there in the morning. It's right nice

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and cool, and you know it's nice when it's weather,

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it's nice and the soil is really nice. Maybe it's

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the next morning. So I have a dream where I

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find this red rock, like a super bright red rock. Anyway,

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I go out there next day and then I'm digging

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and I dig up this pretty sure. Right when I

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found the rock, I remembered the dream. Well, I'm saying,

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but in my mind, I went like, wow, I dream

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you know, I dreamed I found the red rock and

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I found it was so real, So it was like

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it's pre cognitive dream where I found this. It was

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like a big rock and it's pretty big, you know,

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you could fill your whole hand. And I was really

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into rocks, and that was amazing. I thought, amazing, How

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could I dream? But I'm pretty sure when I I

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didn't remember that that I dreamt it until I found

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it later on when they were doing all this other stuff.

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They were like unlocking dream sequences in mid morning, and

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then all of a sudden, you go, oh wow, I

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remember all this stuff. And then you know, you know,

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you remember it from the night before. So I think

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they have the ability to plant the dream and then

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when you remember it, you know that you dreamt that

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the day before or that night anyway. So then there's

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other stuff that happened after they did all their major stuff,

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and I can tell some of those things. And so

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one time I was in the warehouse this laughter. I

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was just blown away by what they did. But there's

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like one of these old radios, like a short waved radio,

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and I was talking earlier that day about I wanted

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to go to Montown to pick up his old car,

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but the guys told me, Yeah, the weather's really bad

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up here. Now. It's like been snowing and it's all

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a rosel icee. You know, you shouldn't come up here now,

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you know, wait till the brother is better, you know,

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and everything's not so dangerous. And so yeah, that was

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kind of on my mind. So a little later, I'm

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on the back of this warehouse and I like this

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old radio. It was like a short wave. I got

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from a rich stale or something, you know. So somehow

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I was like moving, I had the radio in my hand.

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I hear a voice that says it was just like

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perfectly clear. It's like a lady's voice said, yes, the

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time is not right now, but it will be in

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the near future. And then I go, like what he do,

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Like it's coming out of the radio. And then then

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I let it go, what how does this radio work?

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Because it never work before that. I kind of thought,

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you know, it's not plugged in. I go, well, there

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must be like batteries in it. And I open it up.

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There's like no batteries in it, and that really blew

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me away. And I said, my god, you have to

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have sworn. I mean, I know I heard that. I

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heard a voice say that in this radio and it

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was radio didn't work. And another time there's like this

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really loud like just bang in the corner of the warehouse,

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and there's like another lady heard it. She was like

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packing boxes for you know, they fell a wine mail

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order and Yahoo they have and then she goes, yeah, yeah,

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I heard that, you know what was it? And meant

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there's like just just like sound like something was blue

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up and I went back. They're looking like, what the

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heck was that just sounded like this big like tow.

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We went looking, you know, there's nothing there. We thought

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something like blew up, you know, some something floated, but

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there's nothing. There's no evidence of anything. You know. That

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was the weird another weird thing that happened. And then

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another time, this is after they did all the other

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stuff that I could my exploding. Later, I was up

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diving fork lift and on the fork left, just moving

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stuff in the boneyard, you know, like from one place

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to another. And I'm looking in the east and right

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when I you know, there sorcers running and I look

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up and there's like a it looks like a little

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tat can say as the UFO, but it looked kind

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of like melted on one side, like it was kind

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of dark gray, but one side of it looked you know,

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the light if it would refracture and way, it would

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kind of look like it wasn't perfect, you know, And

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I just for like five seconds, i'd see that, and

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I go and then I look down for a second

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and I look back up and it's gone. Anyway, they

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would they would do edge of vision things when I

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would I was all hyped up. And the very day

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where I was just really hyped about it, and I'd

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be riding my bicycle. Out of the corner my eye,

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I would see like a big look like a bird

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flying way off in the distance, like a big bird.

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You see his wings, and then right when I turned

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to look at it, there's nothing there. Right, So they

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can do edge of vision. And it's amazing how that

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on the very day that you're really thinking about and

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you're all excited, like you see that this has happened

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like twice two different times. I thought, Okay, that's what

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they're doing. There was another time I was at Lake

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Minisina when they came. I was like really like attached

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to them like somehow, So when they came, I was

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like crying, what why did you leave? What It's like

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somehow I was bonded with them when I was like

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an infant or no other way to you know, I

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stull you all the signings if when I grew up,

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you know, I remember my grandmother would say, oh, your

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mother has such a hard time with you. You just

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would cry, and then I'd see pictures of me, and

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a lot of the pictures I remember this one scrap book.

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He said, there's Marky here is as usual. He's crying again,

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just mad like for you know, somehow I maybe the

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way I would get attemption. But somehow I had this

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weird scene with my mother where kind of shunned me, like,

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you know, you know, if you're gonna act that way,

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I'm just gonna teach you a lesson that you know,

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you're not gonna get being controlled me by just crying

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and fighting and whatever. Then I said, I think what

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happened was when I was really young, these aliens like

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bonded with me and but even though but somehow they

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remained like repressed. And I've studied a lot of the

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case where they say, oh you're the people have a borderline,

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you know, they get just like a split tikey where

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it's kind of like my trauma to imagine if a

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baby like screams all night. But then I suppose to

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hear these stories, oh they gave you away to the

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na a whole Indians you know, used to work at

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Navaho Reservation where my dad mom were like the doctors

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they wanted to I think it's kind of like if

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you're trying to have a career and raised kid at

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the same time. It's going to conflict, right, so and

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then people go, no, that's your nanny. You know you're

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imagining it, you know, it's all in your head. You're going, yeah, right,

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how's my now nanny coming back? And it's thin air

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claiming their people in a parallel world and all this,

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and I'm crying because I said, you know, kind why

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did you leave? It's the one that came back, this

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being I don't even know who they are. Then you

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just released this feeling and you're like, you know, we're

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the ones that loved you. And I'm just like crying

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because then when they left again after they first came,

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I felt like theyre would say no, you know, come back,

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come back, and I have this abandonment thing where so

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that that's where my case is different than all these

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cases you hear, you know where you know, these aliens

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have no right to message you. You know, you know,

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how's the right to take away your fruit? Will when

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I see people, you know, you hear some of these

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cases where the people are just like bashing the aliens,

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you know, with me, I just start getting mad at

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those people because of such loyalty for the these aliens.

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But yeah, so somehow they instill this extreme dedication, you know,

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even though there is side of fact, and you go

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through all like being really mad and sometimes you get

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mad at them if they but then they you could

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tell that when they developed this talking and it was

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a long story folk foken dreams for like two years

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and then finally they start speaking in as remote images iul.

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I could put it where they would throw images in

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your mind's eye of literally scenes going way back into

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your life or scenes that happened recently in your life.

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And they start speaking in this metaphor as similar to

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a dreams where in metaphor and dreams, but they would

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just take images out of your life and throw the image.

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Then I should go back to the story and try

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to explain. I never even explained the story yet. I'm

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just kind of getting ahead myself. I was kind of

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alcohol all like, and smoke really bad, so I had

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really bad lung coffin kind of like how bad. You know,

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you hear a lot of stories like that. They visit

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people that you know, they got to clean up your

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hack got young kind of mentality, I said. And I

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used to listen to radio station it's called Family Radio

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Stations out of Oakland, Californias. They broadcast like all over

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the world. This one preacher guys like, he knew a

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lot about Bible, numerology and all this. He would like

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compare scripture with scripture and you're just super fanatic. He

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wrote this book nineteen ninety four. You know, he's one

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of these people that's going to predict the end of

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the world. In his mind, he'd take everything literally, you know,

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the world's gonna burn further and heat. It's gonna be

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the end. There will be nothing left. It's just everything's

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gonna burn. It's gonna it's not that is the end.

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But he wanted to set a date when the world's

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gonna burn and when it's gonna end. And so he

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read that book ninety ninety four and he's just preaching

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on about how all the versus line up, you know,

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and he figured out that Christ can they return? And

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do you believe a year of nineteen ninety four? And

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do you belie year is every forty years? He knew

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a lot and I learned a lot about doublicles. The

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way it was written in all the different numbers. You know,

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there's a lot of numerology stuff where they used different

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numbers they and just a lot of stuff where it

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is complicated. It all does fit together. He did make

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a lot of sense. But anyway, then people I listened

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to Open Forum, these people would phone in, you know

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what about people are seeing the UFOs and you just go, no,

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that he believed everything was satan. You know, Satan is

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and you know he said God will not speak. You know,

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the last time God spoke was Pentecost. You know, it

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was thirty years after Christ's death or something like. When

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the apostles were during Pentecost, they would they were supposed

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to have tongues of fire on their head and they

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were being spoken to by Holy Spirit and then it

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says something like, you know, do not but there's all

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these warnings. Do not expect after that. You know, the

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book was closed at Pentagrast. That was it, and God

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will never speak again until the end and anything else

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that's coming from the supernatural. He goes, you can bet

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Satan will accommodate at you very nuturally, It's like everything

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was like Satan, Satan this, and you think it was

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just going about you know UFOs or Satan this. You know,

475
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,720
people's minds are very tricky. He'd go on, have people's

476
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,920
you know, you can't trust what people are seeing. You know,

477
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,400
people's minds are very tricky there. They can imagine things,

478
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,599
you know, and all the same old lodge of people that,

479
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,599
oh you read in them. You know, you heard about it.

480
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:37,519
Next thing, you know, you're imagining, you're seeing this, you know.

481
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,119
And then he goes, but I bet if it is real,

482
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:44,839
it is definitely not God. God does not speak that

483
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,039
is Satan. So he was just everything with Satan, you know,

484
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,920
because the Bible just harps on about just so many

485
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:53,200
demons and Satan because I think you know a lot

486
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,680
of people did view with all that stuff as demonic.

487
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,960
So it's just like, you know, I think the word

488
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,440
demon is more mentioned and the word angel, you know,

489
00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:05,720
or God. But anyway, so there's like a big uh.

490
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,359
The only way to reconcile that you have to say, Okay, well,

491
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,000
God's playing the role of Satan, you know, that's there

492
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,599
if it's gonna work. And then you know, you look

493
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,759
at all the end time scenario and the way that

494
00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:19,599
it talks about and you know what about the words,

495
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,920
you know, God will let Satan loose a little season,

496
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:26,200
you know, in the words God has reins on Satan

497
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,720
and all that, and then the books, you thing where

498
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:30,519
all they go, oh no, the book are you know,

499
00:25:31,079 --> 00:25:33,160
doesn't mean nothing because not about it, but you know that.

500
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:36,200
But people took all that stuff out. They didn't want

501
00:25:36,319 --> 00:25:39,400
it was just too briscade. But in the Old Testament

502
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,880
that talks all about you know, the daughters, the fallen angels.

503
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:46,119
You know, it's in there, how the fallen angels came.

504
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,279
Now you see all these people now on TV, just

505
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,000
like Merzouli and everybody's talking about but they're all talking

506
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:54,960
to the really just people that are afraid. But it

507
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:58,400
doesn't really matter because you know Satan works too, you know,

508
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,400
because it's all about over the fear. You know, you

509
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,400
look out the way it's all designed. So you know,

510
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,359
they're religious people are all, oh, yes, there's something wrong.

511
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,240
You know, they fallen angels are back. Because everybody's finally

512
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,640
believing that all these people are being abducted. There's so

513
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:18,079
many cases going on that you know that it can't

514
00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:21,279
be denied, you know, So it's all finally coming out

515
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:24,400
where the religious people are. But they're still clinging to

516
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,240
the thing that you know, that's not God. God is

517
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:30,160
gonna come and clean house, get rid of off fallen angels.

518
00:26:30,279 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: You know.

519
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they say that, you know, they don't. That's not

520
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,000
how what God does. God doesn't take away your free will.

521
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:39,720
God doesn't have the right, you know, because that's breaking

522
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,160
laws and all that, you know. But anyway, after I

523
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,480
was visited these aliens, they would like speak in the

524
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,759
dreams and they would they would like mix the radio

525
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:52,000
on all night and the TV. I was just so

526
00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,640
freaked out. Anyway, so I started out I was I'd

527
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,839
be reading the Bible because I would just kind of

528
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,880
a sudden, I picked up this one. It's just the

529
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,400
New Testament. It's called the Way Home, just like this

530
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,359
little printing. It was just nothing but the New Testament. Anyways,

531
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,960
I would read a little bit out of the Bible

532
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:08,079
each night. When I was reading it, it would be

533
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,599
like I felt like it was speaking right to me

534
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,599
to start underlining all these verses. It's kind of like

535
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,799
some spirit it was in me that it wasn't really me,

536
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,200
it was taking me on this path. But anyway, so

537
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,960
I was reading the Apostle Paul and Collutions, you know.

538
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,039
But that went on for like a few nights, and

539
00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:24,880
I would be like reading a certain amount each night,

540
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,440
and right, all of a sudden, I'm in collautions right

541
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:30,960
and right at that part remember the late night next

542
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,160
thing you know that these aliens do like a I

543
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,599
go to sleep and I have this super real vision

544
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,960
of like taking off the roof of this building complex

545
00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:45,440
that resembles like a body, a body with like a

546
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:49,599
right arm held up and the head like a square

547
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:53,799
two squares, but resemble like a sacrificial alter. It's like

548
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:56,559
these little cut corners, like you remember the old sacrificial alters.

549
00:27:56,759 --> 00:28:00,640
They would have square, they'd be these old horns each corner.

550
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,839
It starts out, I'm just laying bad. I know, I

551
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,799
was laying in bed, and it's like a super real

552
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,519
vision of imagine that you're like looking out at the

553
00:28:09,559 --> 00:28:13,720
bottom of like a helicopter or a flying saucer or

554
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:16,720
something that's just moving really slowly off of a pad.

555
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,640
All of a sudden, your field of vision is just

556
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,400
you're right there a foot off the ground or two

557
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,400
feet or whatever. And then as it raises up, this

558
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,799
whole building complex slowly comes into view. You know, it

559
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,119
would be like three dimensions you see it. Everything appear

560
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:35,480
like on the peripherial it looks like a hedge over

561
00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:38,480
there these other little buildings, and there's like little corner

562
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:41,640
blocks on all these little, some tight buildings, and I

563
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,880
went like, wow, where is it. I kind of thought

564
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,039
it was some building complex. I didn't really know at first,

565
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,559
But anyway, then the whole picture things like blove and stops.

566
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,359
It just was up like a little ways up and

567
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,640
then it starts over again, as if to say, you know,

568
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,279
get ready, you're not ready for the whole picture, yet

569
00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,119
we're going to do it. It goes up again, and

570
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,960
then it just going higher and hire and all of

571
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,200
a sudden looking down and go like building down there,

572
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,279
and all in my mind I try to remember what

573
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,200
it looked like, and later on it figured out it

574
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:11,400
was like a body, and I took off the roof

575
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,640
of the head that was like a square. And then

576
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000
it just goes all of a sudden, it goes like whoo,

577
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,480
just goes up up up faster and fast, and I'm

578
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:22,920
not super fast, but anyway, prey, soon you see all

579
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,799
these like grid like imagine that whole building would have

580
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,279
just been on one city block, and pretty soon there's

581
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:31,759
like all these other city blocks appearing, but every one

582
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:35,759
of them was like a fluorescent orange, like a little

583
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:39,000
fluorescent orange cube inside it, and everything else looked like

584
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:41,720
city streets. Like imagine you're looking down on a city

585
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:43,680
and all the everything was like just cut up into

586
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,680
this big grid pattern. To see the grid gave like

587
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:49,640
a three dimensional view, right, It gave you like the

588
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,000
feeling of movement, you know, like depth, and it's like

589
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:55,359
one of these video games where anyway, So then the

590
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,000
whole thing just goes way up and I'm pretty soon

591
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,440
I couldn't even see the building down there anymore that

592
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:01,480
I took off of, and the whole thing kind of

593
00:30:01,519 --> 00:30:03,519
goes like roof and just like stops the way that

594
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,960
you'd feel like an elevator stop. Have that light you're

595
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,640
like in your chest, like well, then all of a sudden,

596
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,440
it just remaining from a moment, and then then it

597
00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:16,759
starts going sideways to the south, and you can see

598
00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:19,480
everything moving the way that you would be on an airplane.

599
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,480
You see everything kind of moving slowly. When you look

600
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:24,720
out the window, you go wow, but you can't really

601
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:27,279
feel that you're moving, but you see it. I can

602
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,519
see the grid like slowly moving, and then it starts

603
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,200
going faster and just goes like whoa. Then all of

604
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,079
a sudden, it just goes like whoa. Everything is like

605
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,759
a sling shot. And you just had that feeling like

606
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:43,599
they just did this virtual reality saucer ride and just

607
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,519
super vivid dream. But I knew I was laying on

608
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:48,079
my bed because I remember I was laying face down

609
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,200
on the pillow. And then that later that night, that

610
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720
is being what they would kind of come off and

611
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:57,079
on that music was playing and they would like put

612
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,400
me in this regression where I was crying. I'm crying,

613
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,960
you have right there, you know, kind of like pat

614
00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:07,400
me on the chest and on my legs. You know,

615
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,039
you're good, You're good. Kind of they revert me back

616
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:11,839
like a little infant out of your feet up position

617
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:15,240
like crying. And it was weird. They can like dig

618
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:17,599
out stuff out of your minds. It's like they just

619
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:19,960
they know everything about you.

620
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Speaker 1: I didn't really think I was crazy until it took

628
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,440
a while. Even then, I didn't think about all the

629
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,200
stuff they were doing they were. See. The thing is

630
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,519
when you come and call your just fight and you're

631
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:14,039
like traumatized, I think it's kind of kind of a

632
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:17,400
perfect entrance for them because you're going to face that anyway.

633
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,599
And I think that's what I was like going through

634
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,519
when I was like a baby or something. And then anyways,

635
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,039
then I thought they were like they were making me

636
00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:29,599
like fantasized about different girls I liked. I mean, I

637
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,400
was just and then I thought they were like using

638
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,519
me for extrag and sperm. Then I remember one time

639
00:32:34,599 --> 00:32:37,799
I asked him my father, and I had this thought

640
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,920
that all life is precious. I mean, I just had

641
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,240
this feeling like, you know, they can plant the thought

642
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:47,039
in your head this is what happened, you know, even

643
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:49,400
though they don't let you remember it. One time I

644
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:51,920
was I felt I was crying. You know, I'm just

645
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,920
a Now I don't know, I remember I ate like

646
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,359
the bean and onion sandwiches that night, and I remember

647
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,920
I had cutting really bad, like gas, and I thought,

648
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,440
my god, I felt like I was rude. That they're

649
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,160
probably thinking I'm just the rude. I just kind of

650
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,519
felt like, well, heal, I am being abducted, that you

651
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,240
just feel like emparrassed everything. I was so weird. Is

652
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:16,400
it all happened when? And when they first came. I

653
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,720
remember I would I was really scared and it was

654
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,400
like a knife. I was thinking there was a knife

655
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,880
land by the bed, and I kind of thought, well,

656
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,400
I should hide this knife because somebody might think I

657
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,359
would want to use it. You know, the different things

658
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,480
that were weird when they first I had the spiral

659
00:33:33,599 --> 00:33:35,880
feeling and I'll be closing. I closed my eyes and

660
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,240
they'd be like this gray in my eyes and would

661
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,279
be turning its blue like spatter and these waves in

662
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:44,519
your eyes. And I remember it would be getting blue.

663
00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:46,279
It would kind of move and would it would get

664
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:48,440
really bright blue, and I finally would just get really

665
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:51,759
bright blue, like a spattering in your eyes. And the

666
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:54,440
first that was happening, and then I feel like I

667
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:57,359
was like fluttering. And I remember one time I would.

668
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,359
I imagine in my mind there was like one taller

669
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,680
one that I called G's then those five like shorter

670
00:34:03,839 --> 00:34:07,240
ones of standing by that we're filming, like having sympathy

671
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,440
on me. And they said they came like on three

672
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:13,599
like successive nights, and they there's this being with you know, saying,

673
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,440
you know, we want to help you. You know, we're

674
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,719
instilled this super love that you know, we love you,

675
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,320
and we you just could feel they're just by your side.

676
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,400
They take songs off the radio and I'd be like,

677
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,239
you know, they create a dream and then song that's

678
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,360
playing on the radio will speak to what is in

679
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,960
the dream, you know. Then they can like enhance these

680
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,800
feelings of you know, extreme joy and love. And so

681
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,559
they're like doing stuff where they're glorifying me, and it

682
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,480
was just too maad, you gotta be kidding. I just,

683
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,199
you know, how could how could this be me? How

684
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,960
could I be? You know, because I just felt like nobody.

685
00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:51,840
I just thought this is crazy, Like you know, I

686
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,440
thought they must be like doing this people all down

687
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:57,239
the coast or something. I just can't believe that would

688
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,239
they do just to me. And I kind of felt

689
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,880
like away because I just had like a really like

690
00:35:02,039 --> 00:35:04,679
little self esteem. And if you're like a negative person

691
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,000
and you don't interact weird, you know, people are always

692
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:09,639
like poking at you know, then you know I would

693
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,559
I would snap back. It's kind of like you're overly defensive.

694
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,639
And so I somehow like had a real I wasn't

695
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,559
your average favorite person, and I was kind of like

696
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,920
I was kind of an asshole. But just by acting

697
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,559
weird and then like overreacting, you're being paranoid, thinking everybody

698
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,199
thinks you're a dork. So I used to work at

699
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:30,800
the Red Vice door. I always kind of thought, why

700
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,119
is everybody hate me? I find realized I must act

701
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,880
like a jerk. Away said that they just were porn

702
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,000
on all this kind of suf this is got it.

703
00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:41,199
I just couldn't believe it that, you know, this was

704
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,159
happening anyways. And then I was just like really mad

705
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,119
at my parents. My dad was kind of like alcoholic,

706
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:48,960
and he just because he didn't have a job, and

707
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:51,199
he kind of would take it out on you know,

708
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:53,960
people that don't have their trip together, they kind of

709
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:56,960
become you know, and I wasn't much better. But yeah,

710
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,920
so it's kind of like everybody was just functional, you know,

711
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:03,320
as big as as hard. My dad, you know'd live

712
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,480
having twelve kids and trying to raise the family. And

713
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:09,679
that's how he realized, you know, everybody has their own

714
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:13,039
issues they got to deal with. So then a lot

715
00:36:13,079 --> 00:36:16,280
of stuff happened. But so anyway, yeah, one time there

716
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,960
I was the being is going, you're angry with me.

717
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:24,519
I go, why why? Because all this is said in telepathy, right,

718
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,000
it's just in your head. They're just saying, you know,

719
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,519
you're angry with me. I go why? And then the

720
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,159
thought comes because we tricked you, And I had this

721
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,079
feeling like, wow, yeah, you're right he tricked me because

722
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:36,800
you know here you got here. These guys are coming

723
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,199
out of thin air. It was kind of like my

724
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,199
father in a sense, but it wasn't my father, but

725
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:45,280
to my father had been dad since for a couple

726
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,559
of years. He died in nineteen eighty nine, and these

727
00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:52,840
aliens came nineteen ninety three. My dad had cancer from

728
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,000
smoking and he got throat cancer and they ended up

729
00:36:56,039 --> 00:37:00,840
committing suicide over at the coast. You like, brains out

730
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,800
with a dull bell shotgun. Yeah, but that's what happened.

731
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,760
Yet he didn't want to go through. He knew it

732
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,960
was like terminal, you know, you cop sought off shotgun

733
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,119
in your mouth, you know, because you can reach the

734
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:18,519
trigger obviously, because he had one. Yeah, and then somebody

735
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:20,760
found him floating out in the ocean. But anyway, he

736
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:25,400
had been dead since nineteen eighty nine. Anyway, said it's

737
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,320
being we tricked you. Then I had this film like, well, yeah,

738
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,320
I'm going like, you know, I have power over you guys.

739
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000
You guys tricked me. I should be pissed. Right when

740
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:36,400
I said, and I go, oh, okay, well we're even.

741
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,800
Right when I said we're even, all of a sudden,

742
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,960
the thunder goes because the lightning flash a little bit

743
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,920
before that, you know, the light the thunder will hit

744
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:47,599
a little bit after. Right when I said, okay, we're even.

745
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,119
And then right when I said that, the thunder just

746
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:53,159
went boom. And I just went like a just just

747
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,280
like super scared. I realized later they can make you

748
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,480
feel the fear, you know. I mean they can like

749
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,599
crank it every one of the things they can do.

750
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,639
They can put it max mode, you know, or medium mode,

751
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,880
just like that when they do the full body bathing trip.

752
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,239
Because later on they did you know, going through so

753
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,599
much stuff. They would make me like real live being abducted.

754
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,000
And even though I never had an actual you know,

755
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:19,760
like a lot of people say, oh yeah, the UFO

756
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,039
came outside and I never saw it. They did it

757
00:38:22,119 --> 00:38:24,960
all in like virtual reality and these super real dreams.

758
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:28,199
It's like they can just take everything and create it,

759
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,159
all the dreams that are so real that you don't

760
00:38:31,199 --> 00:38:35,079
need reality. Then they can enhance all the everything, you know,

761
00:38:35,199 --> 00:38:39,239
the emotions. Later they would give me these dreams where

762
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:41,360
they would usually do it when I was like really

763
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,639
just scared. They would do it as a way of saying,

764
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:48,559
you know, hey, you know, face the fear and experience it.

765
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:51,719
So they just make if you had a really scary day,

766
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:54,719
they would make you have it, face it that night

767
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,760
and say, Okay, we're just going to keep on pouring

768
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,440
and on until you just work it out out and

769
00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:03,360
work it over you over. Yeah. So they they can

770
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,559
do the three different variations of the buzzing. Later on

771
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,119
they would do like they can do a real slow

772
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,599
like undulation one, or a medium like or a high

773
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:16,719
one where you're just going like ah, that's amazing. The

774
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,679
whole the whole thing is just because I asked them,

775
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,199
I said, you know, come back, you know, show me more.

776
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:24,079
You know a lot of people say, you know that

777
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,280
when people if you tell them you know, I want

778
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,559
I don't want you to mess with me, they will leave.

779
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,599
In my case, I said, I'm not afraid. I when

780
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:36,639
I had the dreams of being abducted, I was. I

781
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:38,079
would say, no, I'm not afraid.

782
00:39:38,119 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: You know.

783
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: It was one time I went to the library over

784
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,840
the coast. I would go to every library, every bookstore

785
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,119
trying to find anything about UFO. Fell there UFO magazine

786
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:51,840
where it has that picture of the craft down the

787
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,960
hill where the logs are all stacked up. I got

788
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,360
the UFO magazine the library and gave me the Billy

789
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,960
Meyer UFO magazine. I couln't believe it. I'd be looking

790
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,239
for the other book. I found the Edius ef Or

791
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,119
book about abductions. Now I was just searching everywhere, but

792
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,039
she gave me that. I brought that book home and

793
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,000
just a UFO magazine anyway. So then that night I

794
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:17,920
have this dream where I am on that hill in

795
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:22,400
that scene of the next little logs picture, and there's

796
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:25,159
I have this feeling like my body's going whoo. And

797
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:27,360
then all of a sudden, this world it's like a whirlwind,

798
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,039
like just took me right right there. You just feel

799
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:33,199
my whole body're like whoa, they created a dream of

800
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,400
literally oh that picture that I got a photo in

801
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,760
this super real dream. And then I'm being like taken.

802
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,920
I'm like talking to them, take me. I'm not afraid.

803
00:40:43,159 --> 00:40:45,280
I'm not afraid. I want to be taken. And then

804
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,159
I just feel like I'm being taken up in a whirlwind.

805
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,719
And then all of a sudden, my whole body is

806
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,199
like mobilized, laying on the I knew I was laying

807
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,199
on my bad. I'm just going. I'm going. And then

808
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,360
I clinched one of my hands and then right when

809
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,599
I clench it, if I couldn't move. Right when I

810
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:04,239
clinched it, everything goes like whoa, just stop. And then

811
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,039
I hear this like crack behind the TV. I think

812
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:11,000
that's when the poultry guys first came and I went like, wow,

813
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,000
what's that a loud crack behind the TV. Because that's

814
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:17,480
when it first like finally started breakout where they were

815
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:21,320
coming out of my dreams into it kind of blew

816
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,880
me away, like oh my god, now they're like doing

817
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,920
stuff during the day because they never used to do

818
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,800
stuff during the day before. And then that's kind of

819
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,639
the turning point. This went on for a couple of years,

820
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:33,800
whether they were speaking where. Then they started throwing me

821
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,360
these images. I call them remote pieces of your literally

822
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,039
they type pieces of your memory, throw them into your

823
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,800
in your mind's eye. All of a sudden, you have

824
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,559
this flash like, wow, why did I see that from

825
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:46,480
the way back? When all of a sudden just pop

826
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:48,559
in there and out of nowhere, because it just comes

827
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:52,039
out of blue and you know it's not you that.

828
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,920
Then I finally realized, my god, that's them. They're like

829
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,480
taking these little memories of mine. Finally was able to

830
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:01,159
figure out what they're doing. And then you study what

831
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:04,679
is in that scene, and then it's like speaking in

832
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,079
a metaphork way, like you know, that's you using different themes,

833
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:12,000
but they're all basic themes, you know, the waters life.

834
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:15,199
They show me the scene when I was like selling seeds,

835
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:18,159
when I was like a little kid in first grade,

836
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,159
I was you buy these seeds in the back of

837
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,079
a comic book. You try to sell them, and you

838
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:24,480
get a prize, like you know, you want a fishing

839
00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:27,639
pole bicycles, and remember I just only sold a few.

840
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:29,960
They show me the image of like when I was

841
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,119
trying to sell seeds or when I was selling lemonade

842
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:34,480
outside of the road. But what they're saying is you

843
00:42:34,519 --> 00:42:37,119
know you're planting, that is you. So they throw me

844
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,840
different images of h Now, anyway, that's most I wrote down.

845
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,760
I have so many images that take too long to

846
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,639
explain this why I would have to write it and

847
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,639
have it on a link or something, because I couldn't

848
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:52,039
talk about it at all. Some of them are just amazing.

849
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:56,519
They know everything going back, and they can isolate different

850
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,800
and they can flip through everything and say, oh, and

851
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,719
sometimes I couldn't figure out the heck of Matt. And

852
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,440
then later they would throw it again as if to say, no,

853
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,960
you didn't get it. And then sometimes they would literally

854
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,440
come right out and you'd hear the thought, just this

855
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,840
is what it means. Yeah. Then they did this other

856
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,199
really super real dream of the remember that engine astronaut

857
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,840
you see it on the tomb lid, the one where

858
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,000
the guys looks like he's sit in a chair, And

859
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,559
they did that. Why it was super real dream where

860
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:26,280
there's the split fire bark Plug things going like flash

861
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,440
revel and that I saw that. I was so blown away.

862
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,440
I just I regarded everything as like, you know, just important.

863
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,039
But then I realized later, you know, they could just

864
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,199
do this forever. You know, I just wrote everything down

865
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,800
for like four or five years. They did like three

866
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,239
or four five really exciting like abduction dreams. We always

867
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,119
see lights in the sky. You have these dreams where

868
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:50,800
you know, everybody's down in the field and we're walking.

869
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,199
You're saying, wow, look at that, and you're yelling at people.

870
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,880
You know, it's the dream would start like you know,

871
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,039
people are partying. Then it would turn in you know,

872
00:43:57,079 --> 00:43:59,079
there's a ufl in this guy. But the dreams are

873
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,960
so real it's you know, it just was amazing, man.

874
00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:04,760
So what happened was I got kind of myself. But

875
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,280
so then his brother Camping guy kept ranting on about

876
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,199
you know, christ can return nineteen ninety four. I would

877
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,400
listen to open Form and you could never phone in

878
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:16,800
and give your opinion against the guy would like hog

879
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:19,880
the host, Brother Camping, he would like do all the talking.

880
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:22,920
He would just shut the people down that we're trying

881
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,239
to say. Yeah, I think kind of like and he

882
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,800
would not back down that UFOs are not God. There

883
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,039
were demons, and I used to just get really mad

884
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:35,039
at this guy. Like I guess the aliens instilled in me,

885
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,360
like kept speaking and they kind of convinced me in

886
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,519
my dreams and say I ended up sending like twelve

887
00:44:40,639 --> 00:44:45,039
thousand letters to churches all over the US. I get

888
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:47,960
it right about nineteen ninety four, at the beginning of

889
00:44:48,039 --> 00:44:52,960
the Feast of Harvests, like mid September nineteen ninety four,

890
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:56,360
and that was it. Brother camping is a prophecy that

891
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:58,119
you know, this is going to be in the day,

892
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,840
you know, Christ can return. Aliens convinced me like wow,

893
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,440
you know, because I was just mad. I had this

894
00:45:05,039 --> 00:45:08,199
anger anyway from you know, just like a mad kid

895
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,800
when I was younger, and you know, mad at my

896
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,800
mom and dad, you know, because I kind of had

897
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,320
a falling out with them. We had a big family

898
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:18,400
and anyway, so I kind of had that desire to

899
00:45:18,639 --> 00:45:21,960
like attack authority, you know. But the aliens kind of

900
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:24,920
they knew me, like and they said, yeah, we want

901
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,280
you to tell them that you know we are we

902
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,119
are God, and I should the visions they gave me

903
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:32,440
anyway that at one point when they came they said,

904
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,719
I said, how did you get here? You know where?

905
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,199
How did you get here? And they showed me these

906
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,280
three visions that one of them was like a right

907
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,079
right angle, was like a little door that was moving

908
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:44,239
and anyway. They said, you know, we're people in a

909
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,559
parallel world. And then the other one was like a

910
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:48,920
circle with a line down the middle with people on

911
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,320
either side that it looked like people walking in the

912
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,159
park that had just gotten out of church. I thought,

913
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,199
you know, it's kind of like they're dressing their Sunday

914
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,719
best from the nineteen twenties, guys had the top hats

915
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,079
and they he's feather hat here maybe from the eighteen nineties,

916
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,599
like one of the old paintings you see people dressed

917
00:46:05,679 --> 00:46:08,159
up with his picture. There was like a mirror image

918
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:12,760
on either side of this line of people that were

919
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,960
like strolling in the park, and I just kind of seen, oh,

920
00:46:15,199 --> 00:46:17,840
they got a church, you know, they're strolling in the

921
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,920
park and dressed in their Sunday best. And so that

922
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,280
vision happened after that. One of the right angle, the

923
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,440
one with the right angle, was two rectangles connected at

924
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,480
the right angle. That whole spiral spiral thing I got

925
00:46:32,519 --> 00:46:35,559
all into that that you know, the Golden means spiral

926
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,320
has the secret tangle holds the formula for the Golden mean.

927
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,840
You know how the rectangle just keeps on going up

928
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,800
down to infinity. There's like a square and rectangle square,

929
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:47,000
and then the man who brought set and all that,

930
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,719
all that stuff seen in nature. Anybody posted a link

931
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,679
about the sacred numbers, Yeah, then one forty four and

932
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,559
all these numbers hold that all those numbers are actually

933
00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:02,480
in the Bible numerology. It all ties into the nature

934
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,440
of the universe. Remember I told you they could throw

935
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:07,159
these remote images in my mind like boom, just pop

936
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:08,760
them in it. A long time ago, when I was younger,

937
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,679
I was over I was insemities, sitting on a log

938
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,440
reading a book called The Nature of the Universe, and

939
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,840
it's like it's just like a big long cut log.

940
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,039
And I remember I was reading that book by Doyle

941
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:21,800
or something, in the Nature of the Universe. I was like,

942
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:26,320
you know, really young man like teens, And they threw

943
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,840
that image because they can go back different places in

944
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,840
your life and they'll pick different times when you were

945
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,840
in different settings, like when I was in a semity

946
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,320
or when I was skiing, when I was doing that

947
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:39,039
or that, and they will pick out all these scenes

948
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,719
that are speaking metaphoric way, and they will like throw

949
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,119
them to you and you go like wow wow. So

950
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,880
they threw them the image where I sat on that

951
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:49,719
log and read that book Nature of the Universe, and

952
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,239
it means and I used the idea of to harvest.

953
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:54,320
They throw the other scenes of like when I saw

954
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,920
a sickle in a tree, you know, stuck in his

955
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,440
tree up on the mountain. I didn't know, what the heck?

956
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Can they throw me a picture of a sickle grown

957
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:04,920
into a tree? You know? Another time I saw a

958
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,320
picture of the throw men image of the sickle that

959
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,519
was sticking out of a barn, a whole not whole

960
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:12,920
of a barn. When I used to drive by this

961
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:15,400
one old barn. I thought why And they throw me

962
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,760
that picture of a sickle sticking out of a barn.

963
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,840
You know that, you know you finally realize, okay, that

964
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,400
means to harvest. And it's another idea is the idea

965
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,000
of the right angle. Remember I said, I asked, how

966
00:48:26,159 --> 00:48:27,960
did you get here? And they showed me the two

967
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,239
rectangles connected at a right angle. It was like this

968
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,920
little flap like a hinging right at this center of

969
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,199
where the two came together. This little flap is moved

970
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:39,039
and slightly back and forth like it was blown in

971
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:41,920
the wind, you know. So if the flap was shut

972
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,000
all the way and then we so they're saying, you know,

973
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:48,000
we were popping in exposed the other universe intersection. I

974
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:50,400
at a right angle, I think because I was watching

975
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,599
one video, but then the spiral also has something to

976
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,840
do with and I think the way that they're if

977
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,719
when I first asked how did you get here? They

978
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,760
I thought I saw it spinning in a two. It

979
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,639
was like super vague. It's just like almost like a

980
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,960
feeling like wow. So then first I saw that three

981
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:09,320
things first that then the right angle, but that right

982
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,719
angle two rectangles at right angle were returning really slowly,

983
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,760
like counterclockwise. And then I last like five seconds like

984
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,960
a boom that went out. Then the one with the

985
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,960
wall looking down the wall, seeing people on either side,

986
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,119
because that was the biggest heavy decisions. When I said,

987
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:26,480
you know, how where how did you get here? Is

988
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:29,159
that's when the beam was in the room speaking to me.

989
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:31,840
Those were the first three nights thinking they came out

990
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,719
three successive nights, and they in the second night they

991
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,840
I remembered this dream. I didn't remember until mid morning.

992
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,840
I walked through the three levels of this temple, and

993
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,960
I walked with like these three father different father figures.

994
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,840
The first father figure was my boss from the Red

995
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,719
Valley store. He like led me up to it's like

996
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,039
a big plaza that well, the first plaza was a

997
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:59,119
big grass field and a big rectangle, but then we

998
00:49:59,199 --> 00:50:02,079
were over the right, it was like stairs and you look, Oh,

999
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:03,920
it's like a big look at big football field. But

1000
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,360
then we're on the right, there's like these empty planet boxes,

1001
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
like square planet boxes, and I kind of like, wow,

1002
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,119
there's no plant in them. I kind of thought that's weird.

1003
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,840
And then the stairs kind of reminded me of the

1004
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,719
stairs at the courthouse and Yukaya where we live. You know,

1005
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,119
well there's a nearby town. They would take different things

1006
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,000
that you knew and they would implant them in the dream. Right,

1007
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:28,719
so like wow, it's kind of like the courthouse steps.

1008
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,320
You know, we're walking up these steps and then then

1009
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,199
the next level a rectangle pool. My first father figured

1010
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,719
that was walking with me, hold my hand and said, well,

1011
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,280
walk constant might just hold my hand. And then we

1012
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,960
walked up to the pool and there's seven pillars around

1013
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,239
the pool I met, but at the one end of

1014
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,119
the pool it's like a rock waterfall with all these

1015
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,800
water kind of like splashing down. You'd kind of think

1016
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,079
and in the pool looks like a piece of mirror,

1017
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,440
and you kind of think, wow, how's that pool like

1018
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,960
a piece of glass? And that water splashing down there

1019
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,960
is It didn't make sense right then. I thought there

1020
00:51:04,039 --> 00:51:06,159
was like a little lily pad in the center of

1021
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,440
that pool. But anyway, so then there's like seven pillars

1022
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,280
around the pool except for the eighth one would have

1023
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,159
been where the waterfall was. Right, So imagine rectangle with

1024
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,400
a pillar at each corner and then a pillar in between,

1025
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,679
except for the eighth one. They was then the number seven.

1026
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,719
There's like another heavy number. And I remember brother Camping,

1027
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:31,239
we're talking about seven is the number of wisdom. The

1028
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:36,000
seven is like this special number of wisdom. They then

1029
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:38,760
the guy that let's go in my hand. You kind

1030
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,559
of goes like look up there, and I kind of

1031
00:51:40,599 --> 00:51:43,280
look up and they like this Perdre's all these steps.

1032
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,719
You're looking up a pyramid and I'm going like wow.

1033
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,280
And then and then right when I look up, there's

1034
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,559
like this red carpet comes rolling down the steps. But

1035
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:53,519
then I look at it. I look at the carpets

1036
00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:55,960
about there are three quarters the way down or halfway

1037
00:51:56,039 --> 00:51:57,880
down or is coming down. And then I look, I

1038
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,039
go what. I look at the leading end to the carpet, thinking,

1039
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:02,920
you know, it's rolling, but then it kind of looks

1040
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,639
like it's like blood, like rolling like drooping down, kind

1041
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:10,559
of the way a movie theater has the drapes and

1042
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,000
the curtains kind of go like move and they just

1043
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:16,800
like drop. They just look like they're they're not rolling,

1044
00:52:17,079 --> 00:52:20,320
They're just look like they're just like flowing. They just go.

1045
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:22,920
And I kind of went like, oh my god, it

1046
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,159
looks like blood. Right right when I thought it looks

1047
00:52:25,199 --> 00:52:28,119
like blood and the red carpet coming down the steps,

1048
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,480
I just like panic. Now got scared. And next thing

1049
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:33,960
and know, all of a sudden, I was like stand outside,

1050
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,440
not standing at this table. I don't remember walking up

1051
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,320
those steps, and I was standing behind. I'm looking at

1052
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,280
these chairs. There's three chairs, one middle, one on the right,

1053
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,639
one on the left, and then there's another father figure

1054
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:52,400
was there. But anyway, this father figure was a different guy.

1055
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,360
He's like this tall guy that used to be the

1056
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,119
dad of this girl I liked out of the road

1057
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:58,440
valley store. I used to work with their dad. I remember,

1058
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,159
was like really serious, had a real solemn. He's like

1059
00:53:02,199 --> 00:53:05,000
in a white robe. But anyway, he goes, yes, sit down.

1060
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,159
I sit on his vice right. He sits in the

1061
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,199
middle the on the left, but his chair was like

1062
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,719
taller than mine on the left. There's not there's nothing there.

1063
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:15,760
I think. I don't even think there was a chair there.

1064
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,599
There's three candlesticks on the table, and I kind of thought, oh,

1065
00:53:19,639 --> 00:53:22,119
why is there nothing that consumed unbalanced? I caught Oh, okay,

1066
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:25,000
that must be the holy ghost or something. You know.

1067
00:53:25,039 --> 00:53:27,199
I guess there is a number three. They came on

1068
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,039
three nights also because the number three suppose he means trinitina.

1069
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,480
My father's not only ghosts. And it was like because

1070
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:36,599
I learned all the numerology when I listen to go

1071
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,599
brother camping. Yeah, there's three chairs anyway, so then there's

1072
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:42,039
like three cattle sticks. I remember the candles like super bright.

1073
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:45,159
They're going like whoo, just like moving super like slow.

1074
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,719
You know, there's everything was just super bright. And then

1075
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,880
there's this goblet. I remember at one point I looked

1076
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,320
at the goblet and there was like a like a

1077
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,400
shott of light. When you know you turn like pull

1078
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,960
a gob bles certain way, all of a sudden, the

1079
00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,400
light well just like shoot out and reflect out of it.

1080
00:54:01,639 --> 00:54:04,920
I thought I saw like a jewel crystal gl like

1081
00:54:05,039 --> 00:54:08,000
boom and shoot a purple light at me. You know.

1082
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,239
At one point that I looked at the gobblet, I

1083
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,079
remember he kind of like motioned, you know, hear drink

1084
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:15,079
of it or something, but I don't remember drinking it.

1085
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,880
Then there's like a little book sitting sideways on the table,

1086
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,519
and I remember the chair. It was like real soft.

1087
00:54:22,639 --> 00:54:24,119
It's like one of these kind of chairs you sit

1088
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:28,239
in and like air and then you're like slowly go

1089
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,719
like the air like bleeds out or something, and the

1090
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,719
foam just like melts into you know, the shape, and

1091
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,280
it's like one of those kind of chairs. I'm just

1092
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,519
checking out the chair like, and it kind of reminded

1093
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:40,800
me of the chair that was actually in our office

1094
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:44,360
or my brother that they had put the winery. I

1095
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,920
caught that. Wow, it's got the nice oak and everything

1096
00:54:47,079 --> 00:54:49,639
that I remember. The seat was like sleaper Chrissy. When

1097
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,480
I sat in, anybody sat there a moment, and then

1098
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:55,840
the guy we're just real solemn, didn't say nothing. And

1099
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,400
then all of a sudden I get somehow I got up,

1100
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,400
and then all of a sudden, my dad is there,

1101
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,679
the next fill figure, and he goes, yeah, we're going

1102
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,199
for a tour, because my dad used to give people

1103
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,599
a tour, you know, on holidays, and they go up

1104
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:13,480
hunting mushrooms and my dad all hyped up, you know,

1105
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:16,679
you get all like he had a good Cebuary and

1106
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,360
I really like guests and talk party and he's kind

1107
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:21,760
of wild.

1108
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:23,079
Speaker 6: You know.

1109
00:55:23,159 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: He was kind of worked at the Mansion State Hospital

1110
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,840
and they were like taking LSD when l he first

1111
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,320
came out, you know, all these doctors that were out

1112
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,079
of you know, like the Sandos LSD. And yeah, he's

1113
00:55:36,199 --> 00:55:39,480
just his wild me smoking pot and you know, hot

1114
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:42,480
hash and so you know, bet too much of that

1115
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:45,519
party and can mess you up. But anyway, so then

1116
00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:47,360
all of a sudden, my dad is like, yeah, we're

1117
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,559
going for for a tour, you know, and we're taking

1118
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:51,599
a tour. And I turned to the right and get up.

1119
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:54,559
Then so that fire figure is gone, anyway, So then

1120
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:56,239
all of a sudden we turned. I turned the right

1121
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,239
and then I'm looking off a balcony like down to

1122
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,519
where we from. I go like, I had this feeling,

1123
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,559
like you know, you have the film you get when

1124
00:56:03,559 --> 00:56:05,880
you stand on a cliff and you go, oh, that's

1125
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,360
way down here. And then there's like two planner boxes

1126
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:11,920
up on the edge of that dalcon. I thought, wow,

1127
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,599
there's two more planner box up here, but you know,

1128
00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:17,199
there's no plants in them. That was kind of weird.

1129
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,960
There was a planet boxes down there and also on

1130
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:22,800
the bottom level. I kind of thought later that meant

1131
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,719
you know that you are going to be planted eventually

1132
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,039
because the square, see the idea of the cross and

1133
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,840
the right angle, the square that's four that both were

1134
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,639
two world's meat. It's the right angle, you know. So

1135
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,719
then he say, oh, Chris, it's on the cross. That's

1136
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,039
right where the two worlds meet, you know. But anyway,

1137
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:43,880
so then the square is like that means universality. I

1138
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,719
learned all the numerology from that brother Capping guy. Supposed

1139
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,840
he too means church because you know they said that

1140
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,119
pulses went out two by two when you witness the

1141
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,039
thing about witness. Thing is you witness to another person,

1142
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,760
And I think that's similar with the secret acide they have,

1143
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,199
like the door with the pillars on either side of

1144
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,280
the entrance. It talks about the two angels that guarded

1145
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,920
the gate gardener eating their different stories like that. There's

1146
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,039
number two has to do with the two guardians of

1147
00:57:14,199 --> 00:57:17,000
an entrance. Bible that brother Camping was always into the

1148
00:57:17,079 --> 00:57:20,519
number two. Yeah too means church. You know. He just

1149
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:24,119
take different cases where they talk about number two saving

1150
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:27,239
the oil for the wedding fees. And they always use

1151
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,000
different numbers. Yeah, a different story. I can't remember the

1152
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,719
while that they always use new numbers. I turn around,

1153
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:36,000
my dad goes, yeah, come on, we're going out for

1154
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:39,199
a walk. And we go walking down past this little church.

1155
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,079
Is a guy on the right. He goes, hey, how's

1156
00:57:41,079 --> 00:57:43,599
it going now. My Dad's yeah, we're going out take

1157
00:57:43,639 --> 00:57:45,719
a tour. And it's kind of like, you know, this

1158
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,679
is my third father figure on this journey and I

1159
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,440
was following him, and the next thing I know it

1160
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,280
it's like in the Central Valley, we're kneeling down.

1161
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,039
Speaker 2: You know.

1162
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:58,039
Speaker 1: In the Central Value they have these peripheral canals that

1163
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,159
feed the water into the road, and there's like a

1164
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:04,760
little stiphon hose that you you dip into the main

1165
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,039
canal and then you dip it over this little mound

1166
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:11,039
into the rose and then the water fills the rose up. Anyway,

1167
00:58:11,079 --> 00:58:13,400
so the guy goes, come on show, I'll show you.

1168
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:15,360
I did you take this hose? You put it in

1169
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,039
the road, and then and I did it. I remember

1170
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:19,800
I put the hose, feeling like I'm like whoa from

1171
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,960
right when I put the water in the when he

1172
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:23,320
told me, you know, that's how you do it. You

1173
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,079
put the hose from the main canal into the the

1174
00:58:26,199 --> 00:58:29,559
right can feel this feeling like whoa, like turbulence, And

1175
00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:31,760
I went like, wow, I can feel it sucking. I

1176
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,119
remember saying that. And then I remember looking out the

1177
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,239
row and it was just like a silver sword. You

1178
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,320
could just see it look like shimmering, you know, the

1179
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,239
way the water would go a way out the road,

1180
00:58:42,719 --> 00:58:44,280
and when the sun is just right, it looked like

1181
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,800
mercury just going like this, you know, like a pointed sword.

1182
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,880
And I kind of had that feeling like wow, it

1183
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,360
looks like a like a sword just going out there,

1184
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,599
you know. Then I kind of thought that was a

1185
00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:57,239
big heavy symbol. Anyways, then all of a sudden, look

1186
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,760
up and the guy is like left, and I thought

1187
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,840
that was my dad, but I didn't really think. I

1188
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,880
don't know, he's kind of like he was just gone.

1189
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,000
I didn't really think it was him anymore. And I

1190
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:07,519
went like, wow, you know, wait, and I had this

1191
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,199
feeling like, you know, wait for me, and I went

1192
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,719
run after him. And next thing I know, I had

1193
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,440
this feeling like I'm standing behind a crowd of people

1194
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:17,159
that were like in wet white robes. They're all I

1195
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:19,760
see him at the corner of this block of a

1196
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,119
field and he's like waving a he's like up on

1197
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:24,880
a pallet. He's a higher and he's waving like a

1198
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,599
stick across the field, kind of like as that's just

1199
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,360
suggest you know, this will be harvested, you know what

1200
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,039
I mean. Can imagine standing at the corner of the

1201
00:59:32,119 --> 00:59:35,800
field waving like a waving this stick. I was at

1202
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,159
the back of this pack of people. It's like I

1203
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,760
had a graduation and they're all standing there and he's

1204
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,719
waving this ride out in the field saying it's always

1205
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:48,800
going to be harvested. It's like in the Central Valley

1206
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:51,760
That's how I had that feeling at first when we

1207
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,559
were putting the water, and that was that story.

1208
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,920
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1219
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:58,199
Speaker 1: But then later they threw another scene that I remember

1220
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,639
where I was over lakeman see, you know, and the

1221
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,239
same thing. I was standing out at the parking lot

1222
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,079
where everything looks out over the water, where you know,

1223
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:09,079
you could look out over the water, and the same

1224
01:01:09,239 --> 01:01:11,199
kind of scene was happening where there's all these people

1225
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,920
dressed in graduation and the guys standing at the edge

1226
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,639
of the lake and waving the stick and seeing this

1227
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,519
and he's you look way out in the lake surface

1228
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,440
like there was like a city of floating lily pads,

1229
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:27,440
where these towers going like way in the sky like

1230
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,440
a giant looked like giant Christian fish symbols, but way

1231
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:34,960
more skinny that were so high that you see him

1232
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,480
sticking out of the top of the clouds. Everything was

1233
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:42,320
like this pink orange pink just over the lake. And

1234
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,119
then you could barely see out in the lake. It

1235
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:48,800
looked like giant, massive floating lily pads with these massive

1236
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,000
towers and all you can see is just the top

1237
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:54,679
of them, kind of like giant double crescent moons. I said,

1238
01:01:54,719 --> 01:01:58,039
then that was the walk with God thing. I wrote

1239
01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:02,119
it all down to a picture, had numbers that signified

1240
01:02:02,159 --> 01:02:05,559
all the different factors. I think those empty planet boxes

1241
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,199
in that walk was on the lower level when it

1242
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,239
was on the balcony of the pyramid level that I

1243
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,880
think that there was two on the lower level, two

1244
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,599
on the upper level. It's a number two I think

1245
01:02:18,679 --> 01:02:21,480
has to do with the witness because of that man

1246
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:25,400
of Church. They used all these numbers in the whole thing.

1247
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,679
I think that meant since there was no plant and

1248
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,840
I always thought, why is there nothing in those boxes?

1249
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,320
You no plant. It's just like when I took off

1250
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,519
on a sausaer ride that there was a square roof

1251
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,800
too concentric squares, but it was like a alter. Another

1252
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,599
thing is that when that saucer ride took off, it

1253
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:46,079
was like a pillar. It went straight up, like whoa.

1254
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:48,960
So that you can say, okay, that imagine a UFO

1255
01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:52,199
going straight up and then stopping that that's like a

1256
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,760
pillar of wisdom, you know, you can say. Anyway, I

1257
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,920
just look at all the factors and I try to

1258
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,960
see the symbology and everything they did. Anyway, so what happened.

1259
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:03,039
I sent all these letters out to the churches and

1260
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:06,000
I went I even had to go to sacramental libraries.

1261
01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:09,400
I couldn't find enough addresses, and you kind the library,

1262
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,599
and we dug through like every book of every church.

1263
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,159
And I also sent it to UFO groups, every kind

1264
01:03:17,159 --> 01:03:20,039
of science, everything I could. I was trying to get

1265
01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:24,000
twelve thousand done because I spent like seven thousand bucks.

1266
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:27,039
You know, there's not that much considering. I just felt like, Wow,

1267
01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:28,719
this is so important, you know, I just got to

1268
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,519
you know, God wants me to tell the churches because

1269
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:34,480
like I was, I had money saved and I wasn't

1270
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:38,760
super poor. But I wasn't super rich at that time either.

1271
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:41,679
That you know, I had my I sold a lot

1272
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,679
over in Lake County for forty five hundred bucks and

1273
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,000
I paid only five thousands, really cheap. You know Lake County.

1274
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:52,119
It was there still is really man you could get

1275
01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:56,320
sheep lots. I sold that to help finance that. Oh yeah,

1276
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,480
another time I was over there on Lake Mets. You know,

1277
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:00,400
I forgot tell you that. When I was made us

1278
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,719
selled a lot and go there. I was standing on

1279
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,960
the edge of like Mansino and kind of like a trance,

1280
01:04:06,159 --> 01:04:08,039
just sitting there waiting for this guy to show up

1281
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:11,079
on Catamoound. He was going to give me a ride

1282
01:04:11,159 --> 01:04:12,639
or something, but I was going to go to like count.

1283
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,239
Out of the corner of my eye, my left eye

1284
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:20,239
at purple alien's head. I saw what it looked like

1285
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,119
a dome of a head. Somebody took two colors of

1286
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:26,039
purple dark and light purple and was mixing it in

1287
01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:29,039
a pot like spinning. You know, you can see the

1288
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:31,400
two colors like twisting. I saw it first and then

1289
01:04:31,519 --> 01:04:34,199
slowly I see it looks like a bulboush head pier

1290
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,760
and then it drops down right to the eyes to

1291
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,840
write about where the nose would be. And I see

1292
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,079
these two eyes looking at me, and it kind of

1293
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:45,800
looks like my eyes. I go what And I thought,

1294
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,800
I go, what is that like my alien son or something?

1295
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,639
And cause my eyes are kind of like narrow, I

1296
01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:52,920
kind of when I know my eyes looked like the lady.

1297
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,760
I realized, Wow, that's me. And then I kind of

1298
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,559
thought what it meant was that was my passion for

1299
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,599
the cause, for the allience. Because when I'm looking out

1300
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:03,360
over the lake, they use the idea of Lake Medicino

1301
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,119
the body of water as water is life water, and

1302
01:05:07,239 --> 01:05:09,920
they just created all this stuff around this lake Mennicina,

1303
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:14,239
this body of water. So I'm out looking over the lake.

1304
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:16,639
But anyway, it's not a letter to all these churches,

1305
01:05:16,719 --> 01:05:21,360
all the paranormal groups, science groups, like astronomy groups. I

1306
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:29,079
went like different universities and like the religion areas of

1307
01:05:29,239 --> 01:05:33,480
different major you know where their teacher religion and big

1308
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,960
fancy university you know, I college is. I tried to

1309
01:05:37,079 --> 01:05:39,880
like hit every person that thought they were like had

1310
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,119
it all figured out, like oh yeah, we're you know

1311
01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:44,760
you go to the seminary. Yeah, we're studying the Bible.

1312
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,440
We know, we know who God is, we know the mystery,

1313
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,480
and you know all these people they're just so locked

1314
01:05:51,519 --> 01:05:54,159
in there. Two of the amazing things, remember I told

1315
01:05:54,159 --> 01:05:56,599
you that they throw these real remote images. And one

1316
01:05:56,639 --> 01:05:59,679
of the most amazing ones was when I was in

1317
01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:05,199
grade school, the teacher's book, the Red Letter, the history book.

1318
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,800
And for some reason, when she passed, she passed out

1319
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:12,880
of books. She didn't know that somebody had her teacher's copy.

1320
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:16,159
It has all the answers on every page is written.

1321
01:06:16,239 --> 01:06:19,719
You know, there's the answer for this. You know this course.

1322
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,320
You know this is when you give the students, you know,

1323
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,280
test and then the teacher has all the answers. Maybe

1324
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,800
somehow I had that book. I didn't realize that until

1325
01:06:30,679 --> 01:06:33,800
just by accident, I said, like way later in the year,

1326
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,719
I said, yeah, how come my book has all the

1327
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,519
read writing in it. It's like and then all of

1328
01:06:40,559 --> 01:06:42,840
a sudden she realized, oh, you got my book. You know,

1329
01:06:43,519 --> 01:06:46,800
I had the teacher's edition had all the answers. So anyway,

1330
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:49,400
this like in like fifth or sixth grade or something,

1331
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,719
that Mary said, they can the aliens throw me that

1332
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,880
image when I was there and that teacher said, you

1333
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,800
have the Teacher's Edition, and you know, like you got

1334
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:03,079
to answers and so as I'm saying that, that was

1335
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,360
a heavy one and I went like, oh my god, okay,

1336
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,559
and you know, it's like the mystery that nobody knows.

1337
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,480
And then another one that really was a scene that

1338
01:07:12,679 --> 01:07:14,800
was amazing was I we used to go to the

1339
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:17,000
church up by the park when I was a kid,

1340
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,159
had a egg corn and it was like a balcony

1341
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:22,599
or the organ player play up up in the balcony,

1342
01:07:22,679 --> 01:07:24,679
and then sometimes people go up this little stairway in

1343
01:07:24,719 --> 01:07:26,679
the back where you first go in the church, and

1344
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,480
you go up in the balcony. You look down you

1345
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:30,400
see all the people, you know, and I member, I

1346
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,239
was up there and I was like a little kids

1347
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:36,280
just hanging out through the railing of the balcony and

1348
01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:39,760
I dropped the egg corn by accident and it went

1349
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,000
like boom on the ground. I remember, right when everything

1350
01:07:43,079 --> 01:07:45,159
was really silent. I thought, oh my god, and like

1351
01:07:45,679 --> 01:07:47,920
people kind looked like what was that, you know, and

1352
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:51,440
I just you know, sometimes in the church is really silent,

1353
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,320
then then the aliens, so they threw me that image,

1354
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,559
like you know, you drop the bomb on the on

1355
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,639
the church, and oh, well that's the heavy that's a

1356
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:03,679
heavy one. And yeah, so they can like see everything.

1357
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:07,599
Even though I hadn't remembered that in years, they'll go, yeah,

1358
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:09,920
I remember that, and they can just pick it out

1359
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,119
and say that's that's you. And one other thing I'll

1360
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:15,480
tell you really quick. When I was really way younger,

1361
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:17,479
I had a watch and we went we used to

1362
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,319
swim away up on it in the mountains, on this

1363
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,560
in this lake up in Pine Mountain, up by willets,

1364
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,760
and we were kids, like not even like in early teens,

1365
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,960
and we ride motorcycles up there. And I remember I

1366
01:08:29,039 --> 01:08:31,279
had this watch out from my got my she was

1367
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:35,199
actually my fairy godmother, my dad's sister. She gave me

1368
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:37,319
his watch, and I remember it was on this rock

1369
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,479
out in the middle lake. So I took it off

1370
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,039
to go swimming, and I remember it slid off the

1371
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:45,479
rock and he went into the water. It was I

1372
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,880
never could find it anyway. So they throw me that

1373
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,000
scene and what it means miss missing time. I kind

1374
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:54,159
of thought, what the heck is you know that's supposed

1375
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:56,960
to mean? And said I mean missing time. And then

1376
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,520
another time that throwing my watch when we were building

1377
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,880
your and look for me that one okay missing time,

1378
01:09:03,199 --> 01:09:05,239
so that you know they use okay. Then the time

1379
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:09,600
I worked for your David Rate York Factory and Hoppman.

1380
01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:13,960
David Rate's sister is actually Bonnie Rap. You know if

1381
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:18,119
you heard Bonnie Rate, she became pretty famous singer about anymore.

1382
01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:21,479
But anyway, David Rate ran this York factory and I

1383
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,520
remember when I first went to work there. This was

1384
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,840
like right about when my dad died. I remember that

1385
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,920
he had like a stairway that walked up to the

1386
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,119
upper level of the year. It was kind of like

1387
01:09:31,199 --> 01:09:33,720
a UFO would have a not exactly, but you go

1388
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,560
up and then to the right. I remember I walked

1389
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,319
in there the first day and he like shook my hand.

1390
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:40,800
He goes welcome aboard, and he shook my hand, you know,

1391
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,800
the or just shaped like a saucer away. So the

1392
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,760
aliens throw me that image like welcome aboard, like you

1393
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,800
know you're working for us now, right, So I remember

1394
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,399
I said how they can take images and throw them

1395
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,000
and say, you know that is you were. Then in

1396
01:09:55,199 --> 01:09:57,760
the York Factory, there was this one machine called the

1397
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,680
Blue Comet, like his prosker saw. It's like really big

1398
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,279
powerful what you pull the cut, then they throw me

1399
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:07,359
image of that like you know boot comment you're in

1400
01:10:07,399 --> 01:10:10,600
outer space now or something. Yeah, they just they just

1401
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,000
see everything they can. They can see everything you ever did,

1402
01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:17,039
and then they make a big you know, they throw

1403
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:19,600
you the scenes and they say, yeah, you're part of

1404
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:23,399
our group, trying to you know, tell the people or something.

1405
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,239
An I gotta go back to. I just wanted to

1406
01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:29,319
get those out because they have the highlight the remote image.

1407
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,680
Gave all the letters to the post office and got

1408
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,000
a lot of weird letters back saying, you know you're

1409
01:10:35,039 --> 01:10:39,239
dealing with that is not God. You know, that's satan

1410
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,640
that God does not I got this one really good letter.

1411
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 2: I have it.

1412
01:10:44,199 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: I'll have it on the have. Some guy from South

1413
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:52,279
America was visited by a being in his dad's How

1414
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,319
at his dad's house being that was the tall he goes,

1415
01:10:56,359 --> 01:10:58,319
their eyes were too big like this. You know, he

1416
01:10:58,399 --> 01:11:01,119
drew this picture of this being. So I did get

1417
01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:03,840
one really good letter back from It's like a guy

1418
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,840
that knew a UFO group that was all blown away

1419
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:10,560
by being visited by some being anyway, I got that

1420
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:15,520
letter anyways, So then that they're still in contact with me,

1421
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,000
and they kind of like mentor me, and they's it's

1422
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:21,000
kind of like this other little voice says, you know,

1423
01:11:22,239 --> 01:11:24,600
you know, stay away from those if you know you're

1424
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,960
having trouble with certain people or another thing. I went

1425
01:11:28,039 --> 01:11:30,479
to the monastery and I that's a long time ago.

1426
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,680
I told them, yeah, the aliens, they didn't believe it

1427
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,239
was God. And then later that night I see like

1428
01:11:36,319 --> 01:11:39,439
an image of like, you know, the onion dome they have.

1429
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,920
It's like this old Catholic monastery Byzantine. They have those

1430
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,920
big gold onion domes. I see this image of like

1431
01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:52,880
a fist with like a middle finger like uh, sticking

1432
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,720
out like f you you know, like the onion domes

1433
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,720
saying no, we're not gonna we don't buy that, and say, yeah,

1434
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,920
they can like create these little skits in your dreams

1435
01:12:05,399 --> 01:12:09,159
that speak. You know. Some some people say the other

1436
01:12:09,239 --> 01:12:13,600
intelligence is artificial. You know, at first, I always thought

1437
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,279
it was a you know, an actual person or a

1438
01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:20,279
combination of a couplele that. Now that people are saying, oh,

1439
01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:24,000
it's all artificial intelligence is capable of all this, you know,

1440
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:28,439
it's amazing anyway, So that's why I tried. I don't

1441
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,840
know if anybody believed. So Brother Camping finally ended up dying,

1442
01:12:32,079 --> 01:12:34,960
you know, in the mid or two thousand. I got

1443
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,840
a few other letters. There are a lot of letters

1444
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,640
back to people asking for you know, police, support, our ministry.

1445
01:12:40,399 --> 01:12:42,720
Everybody just wants you to send him money. He's like,

1446
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,800
it's like, what it's like, you don't believe that. They

1447
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,840
don't even want to hear your you know. I got

1448
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,920
some letters saying, you know, I feel very sorry for you.

1449
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:56,079
You're please do not you know, underline it, do not

1450
01:12:56,399 --> 01:13:00,359
ever write me again, sign a follower of Jesus rised.

1451
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,560
And then there's like no no return on the envelope,

1452
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,199
Like okay, obviously I can get it right again. I

1453
01:13:07,239 --> 01:13:09,680
don't know who you are, you know. Anyways, I got

1454
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,760
a few kind of really letters, but mostly people didn't reply.

1455
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,840
Oh yeah, one really good one. For like three different nights,

1456
01:13:18,359 --> 01:13:20,279
one night I would wake up and right and I

1457
01:13:20,359 --> 01:13:22,960
would wake up, I'd look out the window. I'd see

1458
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,720
the sun just crusting the hill, the mountaintop, and then

1459
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,680
this thought and then I they did three different things.

1460
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,800
They did a waves, a particle, and they'd say the

1461
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,239
sun is rising, and then I'd see that, I'd feel

1462
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:40,560
like there's I'd see that these waves kind of like

1463
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,239
the way you'd see seaweed on a on a on

1464
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:47,319
a shore, you know, you see seaweed like lapping in

1465
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,239
a pool. He's going whoa kind of waves. And then

1466
01:13:51,279 --> 01:13:54,319
the next morning they did they said the sun is rising,

1467
01:13:54,399 --> 01:13:57,439
and then they then I see what's like a particle

1468
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:01,079
is gonna snowstorm like bombarding, just like kind of like

1469
01:14:01,239 --> 01:14:03,720
fere in a snowstorm. It's night and they're just like

1470
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,479
bombarding into your face and that. So they did this

1471
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,920
on three nights, and they do this exactly. I wake

1472
01:14:09,039 --> 01:14:12,119
up exactly and I'd look out the window and the

1473
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:14,920
sun would just be cracking the top of the mountain,

1474
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,840
and I hear this thought in my head, the sun

1475
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,199
is rising. First they did the ways, and they did

1476
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:23,239
the particles, and then that was pretty amazing. Yeah, Then

1477
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,159
later on I had these other really cool visions. One

1478
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:28,640
of them is like a door with two circles. Imagine

1479
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,880
like a perfect rectangle with two circles. It's like vision

1480
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,000
number nine, and there's like a cross X through each circle,

1481
01:14:36,319 --> 01:14:40,520
so that stands for the two worlds are one, because

1482
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,800
I mean it represent the rectangle's door and the two

1483
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,119
circles represent the witnesses. Then the X, the most ancient

1484
01:14:48,199 --> 01:14:51,199
symbol for God, is a circle with a cross through it.

1485
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 3: What I'll do is mark the link you provided me.

1486
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,399
I'll put that below the episode in the description. Okay,

1487
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,119
so people can go there and read your writings. And

1488
01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:02,399
because there is certainly a lot to go over for

1489
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,079
people to read, there is quite a few pages. When

1490
01:15:05,119 --> 01:15:07,960
you would see the beings, can you describe them all?

1491
01:15:08,119 --> 01:15:08,520
Speaker 1: What you know?

1492
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:09,359
Speaker 3: What do they look like?

1493
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,520
Speaker 1: I never saw That's the thing is, I never saw gray.

1494
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,680
I never saw any beings. Only being I ever saw

1495
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,000
was in my mind when they were visiting me. I

1496
01:15:20,199 --> 01:15:23,560
just I can imagine that that this is what this

1497
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,119
is them stand at the front of my bead. I

1498
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:28,760
was so afraid to open my eyes that I didn't

1499
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,199
want to open my eyes. I never saw any being.

1500
01:15:31,359 --> 01:15:33,840
But when they first were like monitoring, I would hear

1501
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,039
this high pitch beep in my ear. Like other people

1502
01:15:37,119 --> 01:15:39,640
have heard say that, it was like it sounds like

1503
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,239
someone's taking a tuning fork, you know, then you hit

1504
01:15:42,319 --> 01:15:43,720
it and then you move it towards your ear, and

1505
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:44,920
all of a sudden you can hear it go like

1506
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,760
so then they can also do this vacuum like woof

1507
01:15:50,119 --> 01:15:53,880
sounds like in your head. That's kind of I'm wasn't

1508
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,640
sure what that meant that they do that. They do

1509
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,920
that a few times, this high pitch ringing would kind

1510
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,279
of come kind of like who. But then at first

1511
01:16:02,319 --> 01:16:05,239
I didn't really know where that was. And then then

1512
01:16:05,279 --> 01:16:07,880
I finally realized it meant like, yes, you know you

1513
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,840
are being monitored, We're there. Like early on that I

1514
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,640
hear it taught me that I hear on the radio.

1515
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,439
I used to listen to religious radio that said you know,

1516
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,319
the Father knows all, or you know, God is watching

1517
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,680
or something, and right when I would hear that, I

1518
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,119
would hear this ring. But I would hear it right

1519
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:29,600
after a really profound insight, and I go, oh my god,

1520
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,000
that means they're watching. But at first I would be

1521
01:16:32,079 --> 01:16:33,640
hearing that off and on it. I didn't really know

1522
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,039
what the heck what man. Anyway, there was like a

1523
01:16:36,119 --> 01:16:38,159
stage where I felt like really self conscious, like, oh

1524
01:16:38,199 --> 01:16:40,640
my god, you know they're watching, they know everything, you know.

1525
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,439
I kind of felt like, you know, I know everything

1526
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,920
about me, you know, finally just get over that and

1527
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,680
I know everything anyway, because when first they first came,

1528
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,680
I was really just blown away. But I felt like

1529
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,479
I was just walking into trance. I just felt like

1530
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,119
really calm, like wow. I was like really, I tell people, Wow.

1531
01:16:57,159 --> 01:16:58,520
I was like, this was by alliens.

1532
01:16:58,600 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1533
01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:03,039
Speaker 1: The next day I was driving down San Francisco delivering

1534
01:17:03,079 --> 01:17:05,680
some wine. But no big deal. But this is like

1535
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,199
the first three nights they come on through successful nights.

1536
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,039
I was like working during the day and you know,

1537
01:17:11,079 --> 01:17:13,159
because I didn't really work at the winery, then I

1538
01:17:13,279 --> 01:17:15,680
kind of once in a while they'd let me do something.

1539
01:17:16,079 --> 01:17:18,199
But just by chance, I just happened to be like

1540
01:17:18,359 --> 01:17:21,279
driving delivery and wine that day. And it's like I

1541
01:17:21,399 --> 01:17:24,239
wasn't even freaked out. I was just somehow you'd think,

1542
01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:26,560
you know, i'd be all just freaking out, but I wasn't.

1543
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,920
I just felt like I was there's some other spirit

1544
01:17:30,079 --> 01:17:32,520
in me that just made me feel like it's all good.

1545
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,359
Speaker 3: And did they they ever give you any reason why

1546
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,640
they were in contact with you?

1547
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I think it stemmed from they had me

1548
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:45,479
somehow programmed where my mind was a willing participant and

1549
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,479
trying to help help them, you know, like get the

1550
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:54,600
churches on the bandwagon. Yes, yes, those are This is

1551
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,520
back in nineteen ninety three, right, so there's still a

1552
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,000
lot of stuff out there. You know. When the first happened,

1553
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:03,560
I was like so in the dark, about my god,

1554
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,199
what is going on. I just tried to find like

1555
01:18:06,279 --> 01:18:09,840
everything I could, and I just went to every thrift store,

1556
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,640
every books, every library. I just find all these really

1557
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,399
obscure books, like older ones like you know, Jeane Dixon

1558
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,199
and you know, like kind of like a lot of

1559
01:18:19,279 --> 01:18:23,000
weird older New Age writers that channel or like Seth

1560
01:18:23,279 --> 01:18:25,399
and all that, and then all these really weird off

1561
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:29,279
the wall ones like the Peter Herkos, the weird photographic

1562
01:18:29,399 --> 01:18:32,800
Memory guy, and these weird like crazy ones about it

1563
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:38,119
mind of Billy Milligan, all these really weird ones where

1564
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:44,560
there's like possession people that are like borderline possessed by demon,

1565
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:47,640
you know, you know. But then Maunt Velusky and all

1566
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,199
these other stuff going way back into the early nineteen hundreds,

1567
01:18:51,239 --> 01:18:54,680
you know, about nineteen or year two thousand, I went online.

1568
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:58,720
I tried to get every old UFO book they have

1569
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,880
from the fifties. Remember all those contactiefs like Damn Ski

1570
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:09,560
and Manger and Angel Lucci, Daniel Fryd. Just there was

1571
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,600
some really obscure ones, but all those like Major one,

1572
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,359
you know, the Key, Oh and all those kind of

1573
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,359
older ones. There's like so many of them that there

1574
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,359
was like all these really older ones, you know. I

1575
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,840
tried to like get all the real classic so I

1576
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:26,880
have a collection. Remember the Jeffrey mitch Lov had that

1577
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,399
guy the p K Man, the book originally by the

1578
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,560
pee k Man called how to to Space People. That

1579
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,359
guy's name, Oh, Ted, isn't it. That's Ted Owens, Yeah, exactly.

1580
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,039
I have his original book and had like a faith

1581
01:19:41,119 --> 01:19:43,479
on the front with these two the eyes has two

1582
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,479
sets of eyes, have like a weird alien or something. Yeah,

1583
01:19:47,039 --> 01:19:51,079
Like there's second copies. I actually it's really rare. Now

1584
01:19:51,119 --> 01:19:54,039
you got the Silver Bridge, remember the Silver Bridge story

1585
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,359
and the moth the moth Man thing. I have original

1586
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,359
copy of that, the first edition. So I tried to

1587
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,680
collect all these really rares. Luckily they didn't all burn

1588
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,279
down because like big fires came through northern California and

1589
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,840
a lot of people's houses burned. But where I was living,

1590
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:15,000
all my rare books survived. Yeah, I just became fanatic.

1591
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:17,319
You got to like study a lot, right.

1592
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's there's so much material.

1593
01:20:21,119 --> 01:20:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wonderful.

1594
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 6: Mark.

1595
01:20:23,079 --> 01:20:25,239
Speaker 1: I can't get over it. You know, it's been like

1596
01:20:25,359 --> 01:20:27,640
thirty years and I always think about it as like

1597
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:29,920
it's just like change.

1598
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 5: Your life exactly.

1599
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,359
Speaker 3: And sometimes it can be difficult to say, you know,

1600
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,119
over the over the phone. Sometimes it's easier to actually

1601
01:20:37,159 --> 01:20:39,079
have it down in writing. And as you know, as

1602
01:20:39,119 --> 01:20:41,399
you found out, Mark, I really appreciate you coming on

1603
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:42,600
sharing that for our listeners.

1604
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1605
01:20:43,039 --> 01:20:45,079
Speaker 1: I was like kind of all right, thanks so much.

1606
01:20:45,279 --> 01:20:49,159
Speaker 3: You did great. Okay, Mark, take care and we will

1607
01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:52,600
speak soon. All right, Cla enjoyed the rest of your evening.

1608
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:55,760
Bye now, Mark. That is all for today.

1609
01:20:56,079 --> 01:20:59,520
Speaker 5: Keep updated and connected with the show on x, Facebook

1610
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,239
and Instagram, And if you have an encounter that you'd

1611
01:21:02,359 --> 01:21:05,000
like to share on the podcast, you can email me

1612
01:21:05,239 --> 01:21:09,279
at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can

1613
01:21:09,399 --> 01:21:11,600
reach out to me via a contact page on my

1614
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:16,159
website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you

1615
01:21:16,199 --> 01:21:18,680
to Mark for sharing tonight, and as always, thank you

1616
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,479
all for listening. I will be back next week. Till then,

1617
01:21:22,840 --> 01:22:11,119
stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye, mclude