WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.680 You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report 2 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:08.039 a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every 3 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:11.519 thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey, 4 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:15.439 we want to one of those areas thirty one. 5 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.160 Do you wish to find a report of any kind 6 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:17.320 of it? 7 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.640 I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds time areas 8 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:24.960 thirty one? Me neither there. 9 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:30.480 See if it was anybody above us to pass us, 10 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:32.960 Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of 11 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:37.039 golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO. 12 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:39.719 Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. 13 00:00:39.799 --> 00:00:43.600 Yes, I'll just passed over, I go. I don't know 14 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:46.119 what it was, but it's from at least to three 15 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:48.079 thousand feet above us. See, I passed right over the 16 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:48.799 top of us. 17 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:53.479 Ninety one one. 18 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:55.039 You just called up to me be four. 19 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:04.840 They're after staying the airplanes here to God on an 20 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:06.319 unidentified object. 21 00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:10.239 Every liberty four call or calm on an unidentified flying object. 22 00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:19.120 A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share 23 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:24.400 their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had 24 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.519 an encounter, I would like to be on the show. 25 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:47.920 You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. 26 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:53.200 Hello everyone, wherever you're listening from tonight, welcome. I'm Nick 27 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.439 Hunter and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight's guest 28 00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:02.040 is Peter, calling from Sydney, austra. His experiences started in 29 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.680 childhood while living in Lebanon, when he and several other 30 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:09.879 children suddenly found themselves frozen on a rooftop as a 31 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:14.080 silent egg shaped craft hovered overhead. The moment ended with 32 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:18.280 missing time, and years later strange lights began appearing in 33 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:22.039 the Australian night sky, and soon after came a terrifying 34 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:26.919 bedroom encounter involving paralysis and the presence of unknown beings 35 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:32.039 standing beside his bed. Peter is up next, but first, 36 00:02:32.159 --> 00:02:33.960 if you enjoyed a show and you would like to 37 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:37.039 help support the podcast on Patreon, you can do this 38 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.400 for as little as one dollar a month. Head on 39 00:02:39.479 --> 00:02:44.000 over to patreon dot com forward slash UFO Chronicles podcast. 40 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:46.280 You can also find a link in a description of 41 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:50.199 this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now on 42 00:02:50.360 --> 00:03:07.439 with the show. Hello Peterick, Welcome to the podcast. 43 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:10.360 Thank you, Thank you for giving me the opportunity. 44 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:13.960 Thank you, and you're more than welcome and it's great 45 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:17.960 to have you join us today. And you're calling from Sydney, Australia. 46 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:20.919 That's right, the hardest Sydney Australia. 47 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.800 The heart wonderful. Okay, Now, Peter, you have some unusual 48 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:28.360 experiences that you're going to be sharing with us tonight. 49 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:30.680 Would you like start at the beginning, please, sir? 50 00:03:31.439 --> 00:03:35.479 Yeah, sure. I grew up in Lebanon, on a coastal town. 51 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:41.199 It's called check Us spelt Cchuka, and it was on 52 00:03:41.240 --> 00:03:44.960 the coast. My dad was from that town. My mom 53 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:48.560 was from the neighboring town, which was called Unfair, and 54 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:52.919 it's a more historical town then, like all sandstone little 55 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:57.000 houses and so on. My dad's town was built a 56 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.840 lot later, you can see the difference. Town was known 57 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.240 for its fishing and fishermen, and her brother owned a 58 00:04:03.240 --> 00:04:06.120 fish shop. My dad's town was known for its beaches, 59 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.000 so I grew up on the coast, spending most of 60 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:12.080 my summers as a little kid with my brothers and 61 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.840 my cousins, you know, down at the beach almost every 62 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.680 day in summer, and then being brought up on the 63 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.399 best seafood you can get. Because my uncle had owned 64 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:25.519 a fish shop. He'd picked the best part some of 65 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:27.959 the best fish for my mum. So we grew up 66 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.879 running around wild in summer because we'd get three months 67 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:35.319 of school off school in summer and you'd do nine 68 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:37.680 months of school and then three months off, that was 69 00:04:37.720 --> 00:04:40.319 back at that time. And then we'd have Friday off, 70 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:42.519 but go to school Saturday and then have Sunday, and 71 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.920 that was Friday was for the Islamic community, and then 72 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.600 we'd go to school Sunday, so I don't even remember 73 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:51.079 if it was half a day as Saturday, sorry, And 74 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.759 then on Sunday we'd have the day off for the Christians. 75 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.800 And when we had school holidays it was three months. 76 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.000 So I remember one particular day. It was the summer's day, 77 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.519 a sky beautiful, clear, hot day in Lebanone. And when 78 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:06.600 I mean, I'm talking like you know, around forty over 79 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:10.240 forty degrees and we're playing in the street and there 80 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:12.120 was a group of us, me and my friends and 81 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:15.279 my cousins. There's probably about seven eight of us running 82 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:19.360 around and someone, one of the kids, remember it was 83 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:22.680 one of the boys, called out, let's go play on 84 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:25.839 the roof across the road, and he named he mentioned 85 00:05:25.839 --> 00:05:29.079 the family's name, which were which he says in Arabic 86 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:32.759 battel AMoD, which is the house of the Moon family, 87 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:35.639 And that was their second name. If you translated it, 88 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:40.399 it meant moon family. And so everybody started running across 89 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:42.439 the road towards the house. We were just across the 90 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.279 road from it, a straight line right across the road 91 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:47.319 through the gate, you know, through the front yard, up 92 00:05:47.360 --> 00:05:49.639 to the side of the house. As we were running 93 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:51.439 towards the gate, I looked behind me and I saw 94 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:53.600 my cousin. She was younger than me, probably a year 95 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:57.120 and a half or something younger than me, and she 96 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:58.959 was running last. So I let her get in front 97 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.480 of me, and I ran and last. And as we 98 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.839 went up the stairs got to the top landing, there 99 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:08.959 was a security door to get onto the roof. Was 100 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:12.519 a metal, solid metal door, and it was built around 101 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.040 They had a frame built around it, a metal frame, 102 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:17.879 so it sat in that frame. It was bolted to 103 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:23.000 the brickwork, and then it was at the bottom of 104 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:26.120 It was about two three inches off the ground and 105 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.519 you had to step over it to walk onto the roof. 106 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.399 And in the past, any time you ran through that door, 107 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:37.279 whichever kid in front of you pushed it open, it'd 108 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:40.040 swing out. And then it's because of its weight. It 109 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:41.680 didn't that I don't think it had a spring on 110 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:43.319 it to close it back, but the weight of it 111 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.519 would swing back to close. So the next kid would 112 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:48.439 run out and push the door. So as you ran through, 113 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:50.720 one at a time, you'd push the door open, and 114 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:53.639 then it'd swing back every time. So as we ran 115 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:55.839 as they were running through, I saw like two or 116 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:57.839 three of them had already run onto the roof and 117 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:02.000 the door stayed open. It didn't close at all. And 118 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.839 then as my other kids went through, and then I 119 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:07.480 saw my little cousin run through, I was afraid for 120 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:09.399 her that the door's going to swing towards her and 121 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:12.040 knock her out. So I was running right behind. I 122 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:13.920 had my arms out in front of me with my 123 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:17.519 palms out ready looking at the door, expecting this door 124 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.680 to hit me. And I ran passed through and it 125 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:23.160 didn't move. And as I ran through, I remember looking 126 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.040 at it, like turning my head and looking at it, 127 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.519 and it stayed open. It was like some magnetic force 128 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:31.720 was holding this door open. So anyway, I stepped onto 129 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:34.360 the roof and I've taken my gaze off the door, 130 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.319 and I look in front of me and I see 131 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:38.399 all my friends. Every single one of them that was 132 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.600 on the roof was frozen like a mannequin in a 133 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:46.600 shop window. They weren't moving at all, like dead set statues. 134 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:49.360 They were like statues. So I walked up to them 135 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:51.800 and I thought, Okay, it must be a game we're playing, 136 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:53.800 and I'm in because I'm the last one on the roof. 137 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:55.920 So I went up to them and I started tickling them, 138 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.399 you know, around the waist, around the stomach. But I 139 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:00.959 got no reaction whatsoever. And I knew some of them 140 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.439 were a couple of them were very very ticklish, and 141 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:06.360 there's no way they could control, have that much control. 142 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:09.360 So I'm tickling them and they're not moving, and I'm 143 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:11.279 looking at their eyes trying to see, you know, the 144 00:08:11.360 --> 00:08:14.720 crows feet their eyes moving or I didn't see that. 145 00:08:14.800 --> 00:08:16.839 And then when I looked in their eyes, I could 146 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:19.920 see It's like they didn't when I look at someone 147 00:08:19.959 --> 00:08:22.160 in there. I'm talking to them, and you know, you 148 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:23.920 can see a glitter, you can see a glow in 149 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:25.759 their eye. You can see a reflection, or you can 150 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.519 see something. I couldn't see that in their eyes. It 151 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:32.080 was just like they were blank. They weren't even even there. 152 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:35.679 And I moved from one to the other and tried 153 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.519 to tickle them and you know, try to get a reaction. 154 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.120 I thought, one of them has to get one. They 155 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:40.879 can't all be that good at this game, you know, 156 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:43.919 And no one moved. And then I went over to 157 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:45.960 this kid who was probably a year and a half, 158 00:08:45.960 --> 00:08:49.559 two years older than us, and I went to tickle him. 159 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:52.120 And as I went to tickle him under the throat, 160 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:54.240 I looked up because he was taller than me. I 161 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.799 went to reach out and I looked up and right 162 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.639 above us, about thirty meters above us, was this egg 163 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:04.960 shaped object, silver in color. It had a window, like 164 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:08.799 an oval shaped window at the front, not all over 165 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:13.120 the object it was. It covered probably i'd say seventy 166 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.759 five percent off the front. This isn't the whole object 167 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.120 sort of glass. It was a metal object. Imagine an 168 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.120 egg with the pointy side up and tilted at a 169 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.799 forty five degree angle. And I could see this wing screen, 170 00:09:28.200 --> 00:09:30.519 dark tinted wing screen like when you turn your TV 171 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:32.960 off and it's just a dark tint, but I could 172 00:09:32.960 --> 00:09:36.960 see inside of it were two figures. I couldn't see features, 173 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.399 I couldn't see in our colors, but I saw it 174 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.080 like a silhouette of two very thin, very tall beans 175 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:47.080 sitting in this object. And it wasn't It wasn't a helicopter. 176 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.039 We used to have helicopters regularly, a couple of times 177 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:55.320 a week, fly over our town drop propaganda material. As kids, 178 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:57.879 we didn't take note it probably couldn't even read what 179 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:00.559 was on the paperwork, but we liked the colors. So 180 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.240 they'd have pinks and greens and blues and all sorts 181 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.879 of different colors, and as kids would run around the 182 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:08.200 town and see who could collect the most colors and 183 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:11.600 most papers. So we were aware seeing the helicopters go 184 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.440 through with a soldier sitting out the window with his 185 00:10:14.440 --> 00:10:17.960 feet on the landing gear, and people would say, oh, 186 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:21.279 there Israeli helicopters. So we were aware of what a 187 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:24.080 helicopter looked like. We knew what we heard with the 188 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.720 sound of the helicopter and so on. This thing was 189 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.039 no helicopter, didn't have landing gear, didn't have propellers, didn't 190 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:33.840 have any scenes whatsoever. It was just this silver egg 191 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:38.519 shaped looking object with a windscreen, and two figures sitting inside. 192 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:42.120 And as I'm looking up, I could see that these 193 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:45.080 whoever was in this craft, the two beings in the craft, 194 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:48.559 the one that was closer to me, would look over 195 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:50.879 at the other one. The other one, the one to 196 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.879 his left so looking towards me, was always looking towards me. 197 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.320 But the one closest to me would turn his head, 198 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:00.679 look at the other one, and then look at me, 199 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:03.399 turn around look at me. It was like almost like 200 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:06.120 those clowns you see in the surface where you can 201 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:08.320 drop the ball down their throat, and they just kept 202 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:11.159 moving the ads. He just kept looking back and forth, and 203 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:14.799 I got the impression it was confusion there. And as 204 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:17.679 I'm doing that, I see the object drop about five meters. 205 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:20.519 It just all of a sudden just dropped, got closer, 206 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.399 and then it dropped another time, and I thought, oh shit. 207 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.159 You know, I started thinking, is this going to land 208 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:28.679 on the roof? And it could have easily. There's plenty 209 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.240 of room. It was the size of like a VW 210 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:36.200 Beetle VW bug. It could have easily landed on the roof, 211 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.759 not a problem. As I'm looking at this, I know 212 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.159 that they can't see it because they were frozen. Maybe 213 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.679 they could see through their eyes. I couldn't tell you. 214 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.240 But I'm the only one who was looking at this thing, 215 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.639 and I'm the only one who could move. And all 216 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.480 of a sudden, as I'm looking at this and it's 217 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:55.000 getting closer, it drops the second time closer. Bang. The 218 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:57.639 next memory we got, well, next memory we all got, 219 00:11:57.639 --> 00:12:00.919 because we all were awake at that stage downstairs on 220 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:04.600 the bottom floor, on the ground floor, sitting on the 221 00:12:04.639 --> 00:12:08.919 first couple of steps, and some of the couple were 222 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:11.480 standing up. There was you know, three or four standing up, 223 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:14.840 and there was you know, three before sitting down. And 224 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:17.559 the first thing that came out of our mouth is 225 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.480 how did we get here? We started questioning each other, 226 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:22.639 like how did we get here? We were upstairs on 227 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.000 the roof. Not one of us had any inkling what happened. 228 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.960 We didn't know. And as we're talking to each other 229 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:30.840 and asking each other, how did we get here? I 230 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:34.679 don't remember walking down here, we hear our parents outside 231 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:37.320 calling out to us. We hear a couple of parents 232 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.279 calling out. So one of the kids sticks they had 233 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:42.279 out the door and screams, you know, says we're here 234 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.120 to the parents. You know, we're here. We're sitting just 235 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:48.440 sitting inside on the steps. Parents come in and you know, 236 00:12:48.840 --> 00:12:50.799 they were pretty angry, they weren't happy, and they were 237 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.799 questioning us straight away, you know, where have you been? 238 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:55.960 Where were you? What have you been doing? And we're like, 239 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.519 we were up on the roof playing and they're like, no, 240 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:00.519 you weren't. We're like, yeah, we're up on the playing. 241 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:04.519 And whoever the parents were of the children, they actually 242 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:07.039 give them a smack on the butt and say stop lying. 243 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:08.559 Where were you? You know, and you'd get a big 244 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.600 smack on the butt, and even you know us other 245 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:13.519 kids would get a smack on the butt and say, 246 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.279 don't lie. Because it was a close knit neighborhood and 247 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:18.879 as they say, it takes a village to bring up 248 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.639 a child, and that's how it was there. Everybody was 249 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.759 our parent. You know, we're all really close and they 250 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:26.759 could smack you and your parents would pat him on 251 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:28.559 the back for it. They wouldn't get upset about it 252 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:32.159 at all. They were questioning us, and I don't know 253 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:33.799 if they thought we were up to no good. You know, 254 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:36.679 there was like three girls, four boys, and they might 255 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:38.799 have thought we're playing doctors, nurses, I don't know, but 256 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:41.879 they were very, very concerned, and we couldn't understand why 257 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:43.480 they were so angry. And then all of a sudden, 258 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:45.960 one of the parents is saying, you couldn't have been 259 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:47.799 on the roof. And every time one of us said 260 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:49.559 we were on the roof, that's when they'd smack you 261 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:52.519 on the butt. And we said, but we were playing 262 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.639 on the roof. We didn't go anywhere, and they said, look, 263 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.120 we've been looking for you for over two hours. We've 264 00:13:57.159 --> 00:14:00.159 been screaming, we've been shouting, we've been calling out your 265 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.639 names if you were on the roof, and that made 266 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:04.639 them more angry. When we'd say we're on the roof 267 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:06.919 and we didn't reply to them calling out to us, 268 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:10.519 they'd ask, how could you not have heard us? But 269 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.759 we didn't. No one heard. We didn't heart the parents 270 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.600 calling out at all. So we got grounded. We couldn't 271 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:17.240 play with each other for a couple of days. You know. 272 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:21.480 Everybody sort of it happened, you know, and I was 273 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:25.399 the only one who saw things. I don't know if 274 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.200 any of the kids did, I'm not sure, but that 275 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:32.120 was my first experience. Although you know, it sort of 276 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:36.279 was something i've never experienced before in the nineteen seventies. 277 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:38.919 I was born in nineteen sixty four. So now that 278 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:41.679 I mentioned nineteen sixty four being born, and I got 279 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:44.240 to mention this thing that happened when Bill Talker was 280 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:47.759 researching in two thousand and four. He was researching information 281 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:50.320 to write the book Here of the Alien about my 282 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.840 nineteen ninety two experience. He spoke to my parents, and 283 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.759 my mum walked into the room at one stage, and 284 00:14:57.159 --> 00:15:00.039 she said, what's going on, Like, what's this about. My 285 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.279 eldest brother said, oh, he's doing some research about Peter's 286 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:06.080 experience because I had an experience at my parents' house, 287 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:08.240 which I'll get to in a minute. I won't mention 288 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:11.480 anything now, but just quickly mentioned that it had happened there. 289 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:15.120 He said, I was talking about his research in Peter's experiences, 290 00:15:15.120 --> 00:15:17.240 and my mom out of the blue, never heard her 291 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:21.320 talk about this in my life. She said, when we 292 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:23.600 were younger, we used to see these things all the time. 293 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.519 We used to call them flying plates, but our parents 294 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:30.240 and older people would say, no, no, there Israeli spy planes. 295 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:34.120 They put everything down to Israeli spyplanes. My mom said, 296 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:37.960 she said, but there's one particular incident that I remember, 297 00:15:38.440 --> 00:15:40.720 and she said, Peter was twenty two days old, like 298 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:43.799 she remembered how old I was. I was born in April, 299 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.879 so this would have been May. She said that she 300 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.000 was sitting on the bed breastfeeding me at three o'clock 301 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.240 in the morning, and she said, as she's breastfeeding me, 302 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:55.440 she noticed there was a figure in the window looking 303 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:58.399 through and it was like a glass window of fluviored 304 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:02.240 wooden shutter. The wooden shutters were open. And she said, 305 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:05.039 this whoever was in the window, didn't look Middle Eastern 306 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:06.720 at all. And as a matter of fact, it had 307 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:11.200 milky white skin, white hair combed from the side like 308 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.919 over the e almost like a combover. But it wasn't 309 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:16.320 it suited that person. And he had hair, so it 310 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:19.200 wasn't like covering a ball spot or anything. It was 311 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:24.639 just the style and had big blue eyes, very thin features, 312 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.840 milky white skin, and was wearing like a turtle neck 313 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.480 like a skivy, just looking at her. And she made 314 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:34.840 the point to say, he wasn't perving at me, he 315 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:38.080 was looking at my son. He was watching my son. Now, 316 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.559 I was twenty two days old at the time, so 317 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:46.159 way back then something happened. I'm sure family members of mine, 318 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:50.000 you know, maybe parents' grandparents, have had experiences but just 319 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:52.080 didn't know who to how to deal with them, or 320 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:55.759 how to explain it or even talk about it. So yeah, 321 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:59.840 moving forward from that experience in Lebanon, we migrated out 322 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.240 to Australia in nineteen seventy three. So I keep saying this. 323 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.559 When we flew over Australia, I fell in love with 324 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.599 the country just from the air. I just found it beautiful. 325 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:12.519 I grew up in an area called Marrickville, Dulla Chill, 326 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:16.359 and I went to school at it was a Catholic 327 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:21.319 school in Marrickville called Dilasel Marrickville, and had a normal 328 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:24.480 upbringing like any other. You know what They used to 329 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:27.359 refer to us as wog's back then, you know, ethnics, 330 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:31.119 but it was the term was wog, and you know, 331 00:17:31.400 --> 00:17:34.759 we carried that like a badge of honor. It wasn't derogatory. 332 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:37.400 There was even a show on TV, you know where 333 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:40.160 the guy would call his son in law the wog. Yeah, 334 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.319 it was something to be proud of and not take 335 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:44.640 offense to it and be offended, you know. And I 336 00:17:44.680 --> 00:17:49.079 had a normal childhood, finished school and one day I 337 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:51.839 was driving to meet a mate. I left school and 338 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:54.079 got a job, and I drove past the school my 339 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:56.319 mate was going to in Dulla Chill and as I 340 00:17:56.359 --> 00:17:58.839 was talking to him, there was twelve hundred students in 341 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.200 the playground and I saw this girl playing netball, blonde girl, 342 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.720 and I asked him who she was, and he told 343 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:08.079 me her name and said, oh, that's Vivian. And instantly 344 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:10.240 I said to him that that's exactly what I want 345 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:14.079 my wife to look like. And I ended up a 346 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:16.440 week two weeks later, actually a week later, I applied, 347 00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:18.319 and then two weeks later I had the opportunity to 348 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:20.160 go to that school and I did and I lasted 349 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:23.319 seven months there. But I made contact with the person 350 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.359 I went there in the first place for we ended 351 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.279 up after years of doing our own things, seven years 352 00:18:29.359 --> 00:18:32.240 or so after school and did our own thing, you know, 353 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:33.960 and then we got back together and we ended up 354 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:38.480 getting engaged and got married, but married for twenty six 355 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:42.519 years and broke up in twenty sixteen. But in nineteen 356 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:47.079 eighty eight, February fourteen, Valentine's Day, I picked her up 357 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.559 from work and we were sitting down We were sitting 358 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.279 down in my car and I had my back to 359 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:54.839 the driver's door and she was sitting in the passenger seat, 360 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:56.799 had her back to the passenger door, and we're just 361 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:59.839 looking at each other, just talking. We're planning a trip 362 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:04.039 of Queensland the following week. As I was talking to her, 363 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:07.319 I just had this feeling. Something just said to me, 364 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:09.920 look out the window. It was like, you know, not 365 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:11.599 a voice in my head, it was a feeling in 366 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:13.680 my head, like just saying, look out the window, look 367 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:15.960 out the window. And I just tilted my head back. 368 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.359 I had my window wound down. I just tilted my 369 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:20.720 head back, and as I looked up, I saw this, 370 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:27.960 say softball size slightly bigger than a baseball maybe sized 371 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:31.440 ball that was solid white. It wasn't emitting like a 372 00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:33.559 you know, any haze or anything around. It was just 373 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.920 a solid round light, a solid ball, and it was 374 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:42.720 traveling from north to south. And as it moved across 375 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.240 this it was rapidly moving like it caught my attention 376 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.200 how big it was and how quick it was. And 377 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.200 as I'm watching it, I said, we got I said 378 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:51.400 to I, get out, get out and have a look 379 00:19:51.400 --> 00:19:53.359 at this. So we got out of the car, and 380 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:55.799 we're watching this thing and it's moving, and then all 381 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:58.480 of a sudden, it stopped on the Southern Cross at 382 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:02.519 the top star the Southern Cross, and it stopped on 383 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.759 a dime like it was moving rapidly, and then got 384 00:20:04.759 --> 00:20:07.039 to that point above the star and it just stopped. 385 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:09.640 And as we're watching this thing, it hovered there for 386 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.119 a few seconds, and then all of a sudden, it 387 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:15.240 shot this solid beam of light, white beam of light, 388 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:19.039 and I'm talking like solid white light. It shot it 389 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:22.839 down and to the next point on the next star, 390 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:27.279 down on the southern cross, and it appeared at two 391 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.519 places at once. It looked like a dumb bell. It 392 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:32.759 looked like a training dumb bell. And then it disappeared 393 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:36.119 from point A and then where it was at point B, 394 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.880 it shot a beam of light again in a triangular 395 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:41.880 formation to the star on the other side, opposite side, 396 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:45.559 and it was always in a triangular, a perfect triangular formation. 397 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:48.599 It shot this beam of light, appeared at two places 398 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.119 at once, disappeared from point B and it was still 399 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:55.400 you could still visibly see it at point C. Then 400 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:58.160 it shot a beam of light from point C point D. 401 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:01.000 It disappeared at points cz so you could still see it, 402 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:03.839 so it was just my part at the time. She 403 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:06.599 made the comment and said it looks like a war 404 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:09.759 with the stars, and I jumped in and said, no, 405 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:12.160 it looks like it's searching for something, because I thought 406 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.240 that beam of light was a search light. Later on 407 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:18.880 by after doing research and talking to people, I realized 408 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:22.839 that they can travel far vast distances in space and 409 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:26.519 they can leap from one point to another, and I 410 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.000 think that's what it was doing, and that's how I 411 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:29.759 could see it at two places at once. It was 412 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:33.880 traveling so quick, but it did this erratically, like back 413 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:36.880 and forth in a triangular formation, up down, across. You know, 414 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:39.359 you couldn't pick a pattern to it. We watched it 415 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:41.960 for probably on a minute and a half, two minutes almost. 416 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.319 We're just standing there, and I got a cardboard and 417 00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:46.799 I rolled it up, you know, in tunneled my visions, 418 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.920 I can focus on it as we stand in there. 419 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:51.799 It went back up to the top star where it 420 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:54.880 originally stopped, popped there for a couple of seconds, and 421 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:58.039 then just shot straight up into the sky at great speed, 422 00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:00.279 like I couldn't even tell you how fast it was going. 423 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:02.839 And we just looked at each other at the time, 424 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:04.960 and you know, we said to each other, oh my god, 425 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:07.559 that that was like that had to be a UFO 426 00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:10.039 or you know, an object was a man built I 427 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.880 can tell you we thought that in the next day 428 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:17.839 on the news, on the radio, newspapers, especially the local newspaper, 429 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:20.480 we thought, you know, we're going to see many, many 430 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:23.319 people calling and reporting seeing news. Because it happened at 431 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:27.920 eight o'clock and it was clear sky, beautiful night. You know, 432 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:32.160 you you could see everything. I can't understand how nobody, 433 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:35.000 you know what. Maybe people did see it, and just 434 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:37.240 like us, they didn't. I didn't bring up the newspapers 435 00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:39.960 or the radio station and report it. I was hoping 436 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.799 other people would. And maybe other people did see it 437 00:22:42.839 --> 00:22:45.640 and just didn't report it. Didn't bother But you know, 438 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.759 one of the best displays that I've seen an object. 439 00:22:49.400 --> 00:22:53.160 The maneuvers were incredible, the power it showed was incredible. 440 00:22:53.559 --> 00:22:55.839 It was it was just a great sighting to have 441 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:01.160 that sort of started to trigger things because six months 442 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:05.359 later July, I had just moved back home. I was 443 00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:08.160 away from home for five years, lived on my own, 444 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:11.039 met an older woman eleven years older me. She had 445 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:14.039 two kids. For about four and a half years there. 446 00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.319 You know, I went down the wrong track, hung out 447 00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:18.640 with the wrong people and did the wrong things. Whatever. 448 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.319 Didn't do too many, you know, it wasn't like overly 449 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:23.440 bad things, but I'm not proud of some of the 450 00:23:23.480 --> 00:23:26.400 things I did. And so I had moved back home 451 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:29.319 for about nine months. This is nineteen eighty eight now 452 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:32.599 in July, and there was one night where I remember 453 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:35.400 I was sitting down with my dad. I'm watching TV 454 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.759 with him. And because I'd growing up, my dad was 455 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:41.039 never around. He always worked overseas. I hardly knew my 456 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:44.000 dad growing up. My brothers, two older brothers and my 457 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.319 sister probably had spent time with him before he went 458 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:49.720 overseas and started working there. But when I was born, 459 00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:52.119 hardly you know, growing up, I hardly ever saw I'd 460 00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:55.000 see my dad for about two weeks maybe every six 461 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:57.440 months a week or two. He'd come visit and then 462 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.319 shoot off. He'd be there one day, you know, four 463 00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:02.440 or five days later, I'd got come on, where's Dad. 464 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:06.720 He's gone back flown overseas. You know, hardly ever knew 465 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:08.960 who was My first time I met him, I walked 466 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:10.799 in and I saw this guy sitting in our house 467 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.160 on the lounge and I said to my brothers and 468 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.119 see who's that. And I said, that's our dad, that's 469 00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.519 your father. That was my introduction to my dad. I'm 470 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:21.279 sitting down watching TV with him. And as we're watching 471 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:24.400 this TV, it was probably about ten fifteen, got even 472 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:26.759 twenty minutes into this movie, because it was around eleven 473 00:24:26.839 --> 00:24:29.920 quarter past eleven. The movie just started, and I was 474 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.480 just glad to sit there with my dad, just us, 475 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:34.839 my dad and I by ourselves, just sitting there watching 476 00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.640 this movie. He was lying on a three seater lounge 477 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:40.000 and I was sitting on a single seater. Where I 478 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:41.759 was sitting, you could see all the way from the 479 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.680 front door and the back door where areck line of sight? Anyway, 480 00:24:45.720 --> 00:24:48.119 as I'm sitting there, my brother walked out of my room. 481 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:50.480 He was asleep in my room. He walked out of 482 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:52.720 my bedroom, came up to me and said, go watch 483 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:54.720 TV in your bedroom. I want to sleep out here. 484 00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:57.960 It didn't make sense to me, but I thought, okay, 485 00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:01.359 you know, I like my privacy. I'm disappointed I'm not 486 00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:03.279 going to sit you with my dad, but that's okay, 487 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:06.599 all right. So I went and we swapped. He sat 488 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:10.119 down where I was in the same chair, and I 489 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.160 went into my room, closed the door. I sat down 490 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:16.359 on the bed and between the wall and the bed, 491 00:25:16.400 --> 00:25:19.279 I had a little coffee table and on that table 492 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.440 I had a little color to Sheba TV. And as 493 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:25.359 I bent down and turned the TV on, I hit 494 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:27.599 the switch and turned the TV on. I put my 495 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:31.000 hands behind my head. I passed my hand together behind 496 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:33.759 my head, and I crossed my right leg over my 497 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.319 left And as I went to lay on the bed, 498 00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:38.920 I put my head on the pillow. My hands in 499 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.319 my head hadn't even touched the pillow at that stage. 500 00:25:41.640 --> 00:25:45.400 I was just about to lie back and I felt 501 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:49.039 something grabbed me around my ankles and to me at 502 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:51.759 the time, instantly I thought it was someone's hand between 503 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.000 you know, the index finger and the thumb, but it 504 00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.400 could have been some sort of a device. I'm not 505 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.839 too sure, because as soon as I felt something touch me, 506 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.400 grabbed me, I started feeling pins and needles from my ankles, 507 00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:06.359 crawling up through my calfs, up you know, all the 508 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.680 way up my legs, up my torso through my face. 509 00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:12.200 I could feel it tingling my face and then on 510 00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.480 the top of my head. It was like ants crawling. 511 00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:16.440 Well that's how I described it. Back then, it was 512 00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.640 like thousands of ants crawling from my scalp. But it 513 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:22.839 was more like static electricity. So I'm lying in bed now, 514 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:27.119 I'm paralyzed. I can't move. And the only thing luckily 515 00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:29.200 for me, I had my eyes open. And I'd say 516 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.720 if I had my eyes closed, I would have put 517 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:33.400 it down to a dream. I would have put it 518 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:36.759 down to a nightmare and moved on, you know. But 519 00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.799 because my eyes were open, I could see what was 520 00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:42.039 going on in the room, and at the foot of 521 00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.599 the bed, I could see three to four foot tall 522 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.440 being creature. Back then, I'd referred to it as a 523 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.200 creature because it looked horrific. It looked really really frightening. 524 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.720 And yeah, people can say demonic it did. It look robust. 525 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.000 It looked, you know, menacing. And there was this creature 526 00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:03.839 wearing a robe with a hood over its head, and 527 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:06.440 the hood made its head look even bigger, you know, 528 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:12.160 with the hood on its face. It had wrinkly, deprinkly forehead, 529 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:17.559 like I mean deep wrinkles. It had protruding eye ridges, eyebrows, 530 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.720 It had round, deep set eyes. They weren't the big 531 00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.160 black eyes that you would think an Adien would have 532 00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.599 that would round, a little bit of a protruding cheekbone 533 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:32.880 like chubby cheekbones, a wide nose, big lips, you could 534 00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:35.200 see the chin, you know, loose skin in the face, 535 00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:39.960 and it was a big head and it didn't look 536 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.680 friendly at all. So as I'm looking at this thing, 537 00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.960 and I'm thinking, you know, what is this? And I 538 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.319 want to kick I want to you know, I grew up, 539 00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:50.519 I did martial arts and I played sports and that, 540 00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:53.839 so you know, I could handle myself, probably get beat 541 00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:56.480 up doing it, but I could handle myself. I was 542 00:27:56.519 --> 00:27:58.720 trying to get up and fight, you know, I was 543 00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:01.680 trying and I couldn't. I was. And then as I'm 544 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:03.839 doing this with the corner of my eye on the 545 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.599 right side of the bed between me and the TV. 546 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.400 Now with these two other creatures that looked exactly like 547 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.960 the first one at the foot of my bed, hooded 548 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.119 with the hood over their heads, and these beans look 549 00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:20.759 gorilla liked. Honestly, get a gorilla, put a hood over 550 00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:24.279 it with a robe and take a couple of picture's 551 00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:26.799 chest up and you're going to get a pretty close 552 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.720 image to what I saw. So, yeah, they look terrific. 553 00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:34.279 They look looked, you know, brightening. I was petrified. I 554 00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:35.839 wanted to get up and kick and fight, you know, 555 00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:37.720 try and get out of the room. And the more 556 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:40.400 effort that I made to do that, the more drained 557 00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.400 I felt. But I couldn't move it all. As I'm 558 00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.720 freaking out, stressing out. I'm sweating like I mean, you know, 559 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.640 I'm I'm stressing out. I'm thinking this is evil, And 560 00:28:49.960 --> 00:28:51.759 this is what I was thinking at the time. I 561 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.200 wasn't thinking aliens, I wasn't thinking UFO, nothing like that. 562 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.640 I was just thinking, oh my god, this is evil. 563 00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.839 What are these things? Where did they come from? How 564 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.640 did they end up in my room? I'm paralyzed and 565 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:05.720 I'm going to be paralyzed for the rest of my life. 566 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.359 And I tried to call out the family man, look 567 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:10.319 to my dad and my brother who were the closest 568 00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.440 to me in the next room, and I could think 569 00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.240 about their names. I could say, you know, my dad's 570 00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:19.440 might call out Dad, Dad or my brother Sam, but 571 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:21.799 nothing would come out. I could think about it, but 572 00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:26.640 it will no voice box at all. So I'm stressing 573 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.640 out even more now, and I'm petrified, and I'm thinking 574 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.279 I'm going to be in a wheelchair for the rest 575 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:32.960 of my life. My family will get in here in 576 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.799 the morning because I haven't come out of the room yet. 577 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.000 They're going to see I'm paralyzed and i can't speak. 578 00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:41.200 And as I'm thinking that, with the corner of my 579 00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.960 eye on the left side of the bed, I caught movement. 580 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.079 And when I moved my eyes over and looked, now 581 00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:50.240 there's a wardrobe against the wall. They're standing there, and 582 00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.319 then there's my bed. So they were very close to me. 583 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:55.680 One was around my shoulder height and the other one 584 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.079 was on around my waist. The one around my waist 585 00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:02.400 was female. I could see she had bigger chest. I 586 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.920 could tell she was more feminine. Also, they were both 587 00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:09.559 wearing surgical masks. Unlike our surgical masks that are about 588 00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:12.279 four fingers or even bigger in width than that to 589 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:14.519 cover your nose and mouth, these ones that they were 590 00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.640 wearing were like two fingers wide, just over their mouth, 591 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.440 not over their nose. That was the female, she had 592 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:25.160 her mouth covered with the mask. The male, who was 593 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.039 closest to my head and my shoulder, he had the 594 00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:31.200 mask sitting under his chin, so I could see his mouth, 595 00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:34.480 and what I saw was a golden two golden figures. 596 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.559 I'll describe just the one golden figure, almond shaped head 597 00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:44.839 with some sharp edges at the to the face. Two large, 598 00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:46.559 big black guys, and i'll get back to that in 599 00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:51.599 a sect. A long, low ridge nose with nostrils that 600 00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:54.559 are a bit sort of squashed together. They're narrow, and 601 00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.279 they're a little bit higher ridge than the nose is. 602 00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.240 And then just the line for a mouth, if you 603 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.359 just drew it with a pencil. I didn't see like 604 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.400 separate lips. I didn't see teeth or anything like that, 605 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.200 and I just saw if you drew it with a pencil, 606 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:14.119 that's what I saw as a mouth. And the one 607 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:18.599 closest to me. Now, don't forget, I was petrified. One minute. 608 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.799 I was sweating and I was freaking out. And then 609 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:22.920 all of a sudden, as soon as I saw the 610 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:25.599 guy closest to me, the male, and I looked into 611 00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.480 his eyes, it was as if I fell in this void, 612 00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.920 dark void, and look, I think it would sort of 613 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.200 had a hypnotic effect on me. Where as soon as 614 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.880 I looked in his eyes, I started feeling calm, and 615 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:43.079 the next thing that I felt rather than heard. It 616 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.920 was like a knowing, a feeling rather than a hearing 617 00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:50.000 voices in my head sort of thing. I felt sensed 618 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.319 him saying to me, calm down, relax, Calm down, We're 619 00:31:54.359 --> 00:31:57.119 not going to harm you. Calm down, relax. It would 620 00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:00.559 be like the last time. Calm down, relax. And instantly 621 00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.960 I'm sitting there thinking what last time? But I became 622 00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:06.440 completely calm as soon as I looked in his eyes. Look, 623 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.039 I'm looking at my TV screen now, which he's switched off, 624 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.599 and it's pitch black, and it's a bit eerie, because, yeah, 625 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.039 it feels like you're falling in that dark space and 626 00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:21.119 these Instantly I realized that this being knew me better 627 00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:23.559 than I knew myself, as if it's been around me 628 00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.599 all my life. And I assume that's why I didn't 629 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.519 need to wear it covering over his mouth, like not 630 00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.920 concerned about passing diseases or anything or catching anything from me. 631 00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:38.440 So there was obviously some interaction, you know, before him 632 00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.200 saying it'd be like the last time. Not that I 633 00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:44.400 was aware of her, but he indicated that as he's 634 00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:46.440 saying to me, calm down, we're not going to harm you. 635 00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.559 He leans over towards my head and in his hand 636 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.799 I saw he was holding it with three fingers, and 637 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.599 it looked like a tube, a syringe type thing, and 638 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.119 on the tip of it had like an optic fiber, 639 00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:05.279 little thin cable line thing, and at the tip of 640 00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:08.720 that was a little bright light. And as he's saying 641 00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:10.680 to me, calm down, relax, I'm not gonna and I 642 00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.599 became instantly calm, Like I mean, within a second or two, 643 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:18.319 I was completely calm. And that's something that interested Professor 644 00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.680 mac down the track. When he put me under the hypnotherapy, 645 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.000 how quick you know, one second I was sweating and 646 00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.559 freaking out, and then a second later I stopped sweating, 647 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.880 and he was. He had another psychiatrist in the room 648 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.319 and a friend assistant. He made the comment to them 649 00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.119 that the human body just can't do that. You can't 650 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.519 be stressing out, freaking out, sweating and all of a 651 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.119 sudden it just stops in a second, he said, like 652 00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.359 he was experiencing something. So that came later during a 653 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:50.359 hip regret possession. Anyway, Yeah, he's telling me, calm down, relax, 654 00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:51.839 I'm not going to hurt you. And then he puts 655 00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:56.839 this needle looking tube or whatever, flexible little tube towards 656 00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.599 my head on the left ear, higher up on the head, 657 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:03.480 inserted something in. Now I felt pressure. I could feel 658 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.559 that there was pressure going through, but I didn't feel 659 00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:09.280 any pain. It wasn't painful. Two three seconds after feeling 660 00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:12.159 that pressure and knowing like I could tell something pierce 661 00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.400 the skin and went through no pain, but I blacked out. 662 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:18.840 I jumped out of bed. I sprung out of bed. 663 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.119 When I got my feelings back, my movement back. I 664 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.360 had been fighting this paralysis so much, try and move 665 00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:28.079 and I couldn't. Trying to call out and I couldn't, 666 00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:32.079 so when it was over, I didn't know, but because 667 00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.559 I had been fighting to get up. When I got up, 668 00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:36.719 I sprung out of bed. I opened the bedroom door, 669 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.519 went out to my brother and my dad. First one 670 00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.159 that I got to was my dad. He was sitting 671 00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.440 to my left as I walked through the door. He 672 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:45.800 was on the three seat and lounge on them side. 673 00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:48.159 And I walked up to him and I started trying 674 00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.159 to wake him up, Dad, Dad, wake up, wake up. 675 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.599 Wouldn't wake up. I shook him, shook him, couldn't wouldn't 676 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:55.239 wake up, I went and got my brother. I thought 677 00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.800 my dad had a heart attack. I was petrified, and 678 00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:00.719 I went to wake up my my brother and I 679 00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.320 couldn't wake up my brother either, so I started shaking 680 00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:05.119 him and shaking him, and then I slapped him two 681 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:08.039 or three times across the face, and he woke up. 682 00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.320 He came two and the first thing that came out 683 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:13.840 of his mouth and he said it in Arabic in Lebanese, 684 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:17.559 he said, I feel like I've been switched off, which 685 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:19.440 you know, I didn't register with me at the time, 686 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.360 but later on that's what seems to happen to people 687 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.719 around someone being abducted. They can switch you off or 688 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.440 immobilize you and so on. So I said to him, look, 689 00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.039 I can't wake up my dad. I think he's had 690 00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:31.679 a heart attack. So we went and try to wake 691 00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:34.840 up my dad together. We couldn't. My brother said to me, 692 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.079 go get a glass of water. Splashed water on my 693 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.440 dad's face. Didn't wake up. So my dad slapped him 694 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:41.960 a couple of times, really hard to and my dad 695 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.840 woke up. But my dad didn't say a word. He 696 00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.519 didn't ask why you're putting water all over mere? Why 697 00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:49.719 you slapped in me, like, what is wrong with your kids? 698 00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:53.280 You know, nothing, nothing. He just looked at us both 699 00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:57.039 and just turned on his side and just laid down. 700 00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.480 And I thought that was really strange, and we wanted 701 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.039 to make sure he didn't have a heart attack or 702 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:03.679 a stroke or something. But he was fine, just wasn't 703 00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.599 with it anyway. I said to my brother. I asked 704 00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.119 my brother, I said, how long has it been since 705 00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.880 I went into my room you came out here? And 706 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.400 he said, oh, about ten minutes? And I thought it 707 00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.639 was about ten to fifteen minutes, So I thought I 708 00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.679 blacked out in there for about ten fifteen when the 709 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.800 needle went into my head. As we're talking, we looked 710 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:28.280 at the TV screen and it was a blur. There 711 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.039 was nothing. It was like a test pattern on there. 712 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.519 It was a blur for test pattern. And at that time, 713 00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:39.239 TV stations would close two o'clock, three o'clock sometimes and 714 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:41.400 there'd be a picture of Sydney Harbor Bridge in the 715 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.119 Opera House and there'd be a song, you know, my 716 00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.119 city of Sydney, and we were used to that, and 717 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.840 as we're talking, we looked at it. Now, for that 718 00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:50.719 to happen, there must have been over two two and 719 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.519 a half hours that went by because the TV show 720 00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:55.559 I was watching was now over and the TV station 721 00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:58.639 was closed. So I said to my brother, look, I'm 722 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:00.559 going to take a glass of water and I'm going 723 00:37:00.599 --> 00:37:03.119 to put it next to my bed. If that glass 724 00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:05.039 of water is there in the morning when I get up, 725 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.599 this isn't all a dream. Something happened. So of course 726 00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:10.079 I get a glass of water and go put it 727 00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.679 next to my bed to side chest. In the morning, 728 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.239 I wake up, the glass of water is there. I'm like, okay, 729 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.199 something obviously happened. So later on I went to have 730 00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.840 a shower, came out of the shower. As I was 731 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:24.599 drying up, I was drying my right leg and when 732 00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.760 I got down to my shin, it felt like something 733 00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:31.559 had felt like a burn like when I looked at it, 734 00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:34.519 it looked like someone had put a cigarette and just 735 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.880 let it burn into my shin for thirty seconds a 736 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:39.480 minute and then taking it out. And there was this 737 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:46.239 five millimeter circle of about two millimeter indentation with three 738 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:50.880 scoops in there, like in a triangular formation, three dots 739 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.280 sort of thing, not even dots, they were more like 740 00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.719 diamond shaped if anything red draw like red draw It's 741 00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.480 like you put a cigarette there and let it burn. 742 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.000 So it was a bit painful and you know, uncomfortable. 743 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.800 One Life, One Story a podcast about real people and 744 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.199 a single moment, or a series of moments that changed everything. 745 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.400 Each episode is someone sharing a story in their own words. 746 00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:24.000 Sometimes it's tragic, sometimes it's hopeful. These are experiences that 747 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.719 stay with you, moments that reshape how you see the world, yourself, 748 00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:29.480 and the people around you. And if you have a 749 00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.320 story that you'd like to share, email me at One Life, 750 00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.320 One Story podcast at gmail dot com, One Life, One Story, 751 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:39.000 listen wherever you get your podcasts. 752 00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.320 Anyway, six hours later, I went down to pick up 753 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.880 Vivian from work. As I'm driving, she got in the 754 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:54.519 car and the first thing she said to me was, 755 00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.679 what's wrong? Who did you ever fight with? And I'm like, nah, no, one, 756 00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.280 something just happened and I need to talk to someone. 757 00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:03.559 I may as well talk to you. I told her 758 00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:06.280 it happened the night before, explained the whole story to her, 759 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.480 and as I was pointing to my head, I said, yeah, 760 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.039 they inserted something in my head here and when I 761 00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.840 touched it, there was dry blood under my fingernail, and 762 00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.199 she had a look like she could see the dry 763 00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.159 blood on my fingernails. So she's don't give me a look. 764 00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:22.559 She's had a look and she's got The first thing 765 00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:24.599 she said was, oh my god, Gs Peter, you've got 766 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.679 like a doughnut hole in your head. It's inflamed. It 767 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.199 circle you could see blood in the middle. She goes, 768 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.239 oh my god, you know what caused that. And then 769 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:34.000 I went to show her the mark on my leg. 770 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.719 I lifted my jeene leg up and it was still there. 771 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.320 It was a mark. It was like a bullet hole. 772 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.920 But it was no longer red draw. It was completely healed. 773 00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:46.119 But it's still a scar. You can see it's an indentation. 774 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:49.000 It's not like it healed and it's gone. It's there, 775 00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:51.360 it's in your face. I think I might have sent 776 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:53.599 you a photo of it. I'm not sure, but I 777 00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:55.639 couldn't understand how it could have been red raw. And 778 00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:57.599 then six hours later healed. I thought it'd take a 779 00:39:57.639 --> 00:39:59.960 few days at least, if not over a week. But anyway, 780 00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:01.880 she said to me, look, you need to go and 781 00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:04.000 speak to your doctor. So I dropped her off at 782 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.519 her house. Doctor was like five minutes up the road 783 00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.360 from where she lived. I went in seeing my doctor 784 00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:11.239 and there were people in the waiting room. And when 785 00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:13.639 I went to see her in her room and told 786 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:15.920 her what happened, I explained to her, you know, look, doc, 787 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.159 something happened to me. I need to be honest with 788 00:40:18.239 --> 00:40:20.360 you and tell you. I'm not going to sugarcoat this. 789 00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.199 And when I told her the story, she just cracked up, 790 00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:26.760 laughing like I'm in hysterical laughter. And she said, come on, Peter, 791 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:28.719 you probably hit your head on a nail at work, 792 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.280 you know, I said, doctor, why would I She was 793 00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.119 my doctor for ten years. That's something I want to mention. 794 00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:36.360 She was my doctor for ten years. She was a 795 00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:40.440 great doctor, like fantastic doctor. But she let me down 796 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.760 so bad that after that I never went and saw 797 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:45.639 her again. All my friends used to use her because 798 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:48.280 she was such a good doctor. They'd all asked me 799 00:40:48.360 --> 00:40:51.079 to put them in contact with her, and some of 800 00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:54.320 them may still be her patients. I don't know. But anyway, Yeah, 801 00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:56.320 she laughed at me, and I remember saying to her, doctor, 802 00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:58.840 don't laugh at me. If you think I'm crazy, send 803 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.800 me to a psychiatrists, psychologists or something. But theyn't laugh 804 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:04.639 at me. I walked out of that room, and as 805 00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:10.440 I walked into the reception to speak to the secretary receptionist, 806 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.119 the people in there were laughing. They go, oh, that 807 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.599 must have been a great joke you told the doc day. 808 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.519 She was laughing her head off, and I was like, yeah, 809 00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:21.039 only if you knew. And I just walked out really disappointed. 810 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:24.800 So I just had these experiences that I knew were 811 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.199 so real, but I had nowhere the base, and I 812 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:30.159 had nowhere to connect them to. I had nothing to 813 00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.039 compare them to. So I went on a crazy search, 814 00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.000 you know, like called a few people. But in the meantime, 815 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.159 there was a Vivin and I were in the car 816 00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.760 once and we're driving and there was a poster. This 817 00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.440 is near our house. She lived five minutes from my 818 00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:49.400 parents' house walking distance. Basically, we were driving down the 819 00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.599 street near the RSL club in the area, and on 820 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.360 the other side was a poster. There was a black 821 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.000 poster with white writing and it said they're coming. That's it, 822 00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.760 just in white writing, They're coming. And we looked at 823 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:03.480 it and thought, I wonder what that's about. Two weeks later, 824 00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:09.079 same spot, same poster, different riding. They're here. They're here, 825 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:12.320 and we're like, whoa, what is this? You know, who's here. 826 00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:14.639 A couple of weeks later, I pick her up from work. 827 00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.440 We're driving away from her work, you know, and there's 828 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:21.480 it's a busy it's Macquarie Streets that's very busy. There's 829 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.880 a bus shelters there and there was a two or 830 00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:27.239 three buses stopped and as we're at the set of lights, 831 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.639 one of the buses had to take off, and in 832 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:35.920 the bus shelter we saw similar poster, black poster, but 833 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:39.880 instead of riding there was the face of the Communion 834 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:44.280 book cover, the goldish, big eyed aliens that I saw, 835 00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:45.800 the two of them that I saw, the one that 836 00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.000 injected in the needle in my head, exactly the same. 837 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.719 And she saw it before I did, and she was like, 838 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:55.000 oh my god, look at that. And when I looked, 839 00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.159 when I looked back at her, she had covered her 840 00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.239 mouth with her hand. She was like, oh my god, Peter, 841 00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:02.960 that's what you saw. Anyway, we realized it was an 842 00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:08.119 advertisement for the book Communion. And now this was before 843 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.159 we had any kids or anything, so that we at 844 00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:14.800 the time we were just yeah, we're still engaged. And anyway, 845 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:18.960 were trying to find the book, and I got a 846 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:21.760 copy of the book, and she read it before I did. 847 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.519 The book communion I'm talking about, she read it before 848 00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:26.920 I did, and she'd read it on the way to 849 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.039 work on the train, and she'd get to work. She'd 850 00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.760 bring me in the morning and she'd be almost furious. 851 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.880 She'd be like, Peter, this is your story. You've told 852 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.159 your story to someone and they've gone and written a 853 00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:40.280 book about it and they're selling it as their story. 854 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:42.760 This is what you told me, happened to you, the 855 00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.360 same beings, the same this. And I was like, the 856 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:48.079 only person that people I spoke to are you and 857 00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:50.800 my doctor. I haven't spoken to anybody else about this. 858 00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:53.760 And she's like, well, somebody's written a book about it. 859 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:56.599 Maybe your doctor told someone. And I was like, no, no, 860 00:43:56.679 --> 00:43:59.920 I think this book was written before and it's coming out. 861 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.039 I think it was the second edition thing, and it 862 00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:05.280 was advertising for it. Whatever. Anyway, she walked into my 863 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.920 parents' place one day out the front through the front 864 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:10.159 gate and she had the book in her hand, and 865 00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:13.000 I went to take a picture, and actually she was 866 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.039 bringing the book for me to start reading it. She'd 867 00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.360 just finished reading it, and she's pulled the book up 868 00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:19.679 to her face, and I took the photo, and I've 869 00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.000 got a photo. It's a bit blurry, but it shows 870 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.800 the book over her face with the picture of the 871 00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.280 alien on communion, which was funny at the time. But anyway, 872 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.559 I started reading the book, and to begin with, i'd 873 00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.519 read maybe a couple of lines. I couldn't even finish 874 00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.480 a sentence, and I put the book down. I just 875 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.840 couldn't deal with it. I think it was too confronting. Gradually, 876 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:42.039 I started reading a little bit more every day, and 877 00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:43.840 I lead a little bit more at an extra line, 878 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:48.199 forced myself to finish a paragraph, or force myself even 879 00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.480 more to finish a page. Took me about three months, 880 00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.519 maybe just over three months to read that book. And 881 00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:58.000 as I read through it, it was like a checklist, you know. 882 00:44:58.119 --> 00:44:59.760 I could tick a lot of things that I could, 883 00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.159 really but there were a lot of things that I 884 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:04.320 was crossing now thinking na, na, no, like he had 885 00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.960 a shotgun. He was shooting at them that disappear at 886 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.239 peace somewhere else. Since I didn't experience any of that stuff. 887 00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:13.800 To me, they were in control, total control, and I 888 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:17.280 couldn't do anything about it, and I was paralyzed. So 889 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.760 I read the book and then I thought, Okay, so 890 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:24.239 my experiences are that's similar to this. It must be 891 00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.320 UFO alien related. And that's where my search for answers 892 00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:32.679 and my search for you know, thousands of books. I've 893 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:35.639 got over two and a half thousand books in my library. 894 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:39.679 I've read probably ninety percent of them. I've got to 895 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.559 catch up on some reading soon too, And so yeah, 896 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.519 I've got an office now where it's cost me so 897 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.719 much money in my search. And you know, people think 898 00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.800 you do this to make money or whatever. I've lost 899 00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.039 so much money income wise. I'm good at what I 900 00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.079 do in my job, but there's a lot of people 901 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.679 out there who judge you by what you believe, you know, 902 00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.280 and it's cost me. It's cost me a lot over 903 00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.880 the years, I can say that. But anyway, I spent 904 00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.159 a lot of money buying books and anything I could 905 00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:11.800 find on the topic I wanted to collect and have, 906 00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:15.920 you know, So this nine and eighty eight experience sort 907 00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.039 of was a eye opener for me, and I started 908 00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:23.159 making phone calls and I drink people, I drink counselors, 909 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.400 I drink psychologists, you know, and as soon as they 910 00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.920 talked to me for twenty minutes, right, and it'd be 911 00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:30.880 a discussion. You know, this is what we do, of 912 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.400 what we offer. We help these sort of people, but 913 00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:35.840 you know, we talk as soon as I tell them 914 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.559 my story, I could start telling them. But as soon 915 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:41.320 as I'd say there were beings in my room, or 916 00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.239 there were creatures in my room, there was something in 917 00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:46.840 my room physical, they'd be like, oh no, no, we 918 00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:48.480 don't deal with that sort of stuff. Sorry, And they 919 00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.639 wouldn't even try and refer you somewhere else. They'd just 920 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.960 hang up on you. And it pissed me off, it 921 00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:57.360 really did. And I'm thinking, you call yourselves, you know, 922 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.280 therapists and counselors or whatever, and you don't give a 923 00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:03.199 shit about someone that is telling you a story that 924 00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:07.880 you can't relate to or understand. So the last person 925 00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:12.480 I called was a psychologist in Queensland, and I remember 926 00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.039 him listening carefully and at the end he said to me, 927 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.800 I was expecting the same thing. You know, I hang 928 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:19.920 up at the end of it. But he said to me, look, 929 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:22.880 I've been talking a lot of people and they're talking 930 00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.039 about this stuff that you're telling me now, and he said, 931 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:28.239 and I think it's alien abduction or you know UFO 932 00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:31.320 Aian abduction stuff. There's a group in Sydney for me, 933 00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:33.320 and you should get involved with them, get in touch 934 00:47:33.360 --> 00:47:36.199 with them. So I thanked him and whatever. You know, 935 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:37.800 he was the most help out of all of them. 936 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:40.800 I ended up contacting that group and discovered that they 937 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:43.840 were having their first inaugural meeting to name the group. 938 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.559 I attended with two female friends of mine. During the meeting, 939 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:49.159 they said, we're going to name the group. We're going 940 00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.360 to run a competition. You guys name it. The best 941 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.920 name will get prize. There's three books here we want 942 00:47:53.960 --> 00:47:55.719 to give you as a prize, you know. So we 943 00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:01.199 ended up naming the group UFO Research Sydney and they 944 00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:03.119 gave us the book and it was accept that. Everybody 945 00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:06.360 went yet get perfect, nice good name. You know. Someone 946 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.679 female stood up. Her name was Rebecca. I won't mention 947 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.079 her second name, but she was from Blue Mountains and 948 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.800 she said, oh, hang on a minute, it's not fair 949 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:18.480 because you're looking at Sydney here UFO reached at Sydney. 950 00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.280 She goes, it should encompass the whole of New South 951 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:23.519 Wales because I'm in the Blue Mountains. Yeah, and it 952 00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:26.599 made sense. She was one hundred percent right. And so 953 00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:30.559 it turned into UFO Research New South Wales, so instead 954 00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:32.840 of Sydney, it was New South Wales. And I was 955 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:35.039 happy to hand over the books to her, but she refused, 956 00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.239 said no, no, no, you guys did it. It's just 957 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.639 it's good to be for you to accept it and 958 00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.000 allow it and so on. So yeah, it worked out well. 959 00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:44.840 And then anyway, I got involved with that group, and 960 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.400 I was involved for a while. Then I became a 961 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:50.039 committee member, and I remember one day a couple of 962 00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:53.639 people in the crowd at a meeting, public meeting, they 963 00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:56.079 put their hand up and said, oh, you know, I've 964 00:48:56.119 --> 00:48:59.639 had these experiences. I don't know what they are, abduction experiences. 965 00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.519 And straight away they didn't want to know about it. 966 00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:04.840 The committee. All they were happy with is dealing with 967 00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:09.519 flights in the sky reports from the nineteen fifties and sixties. 968 00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:12.559 You know, oh there was a light in Gosford, you know, 969 00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:14.880 twenty years ago, and this is what it did, and 970 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:17.480 so on. They weren't too interested in talking about the 971 00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:21.119 abduction field at all. And I remember sitting in on 972 00:49:21.559 --> 00:49:25.199 committee meetings where some people might send evidence in the 973 00:49:25.239 --> 00:49:27.199 form of a T shirt, say with stains on it, 974 00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.079 and say, look, I had these experiences and they put 975 00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:31.440 this liquid on me, and look at my shirt. It's 976 00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.199 been stained from that. And I've seen a committee member 977 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:36.119 grab that shirt and throw it in the bin and 978 00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:40.440 make the comment, guys, you've got to admit these abductees 979 00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:43.199 are a strange group of people. So I went and 980 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.400 grabbed that T shirt out of the bin and I've 981 00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:48.199 still got it to this day, and I'm talking from 982 00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.920 nineteen early nineties and I've still got it. I thought, 983 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:54.280 you don't throw someone's evidence if you don't want to 984 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:56.400 give it back to him, just mail it back to 985 00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:58.719 the person and say sorry, we can't do anything with this. 986 00:49:59.440 --> 00:50:01.559 So I started to see where they were, you know, 987 00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:04.159 where they their head was about that stuff, and they 988 00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:05.920 just didn't want to take it on board at all. 989 00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:09.280 So during that meeting where people put their hand up 990 00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:12.000 and said, oh, you know, I've had these experiences, committee 991 00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.840 members stand up and says, okay, we'll start abduction group 992 00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:18.480 AIL an abduction group, and Peter Cooury it can be 993 00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:21.519 the coordinator, he can run it. And I remember instantly 994 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:24.280 standing up and put my AAA, hang on. I put 995 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:27.440 my hand out like full stop, stop stop. I said 996 00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.440 to them, I don't know what I'm experiencing. I've just 997 00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:32.440 been told like a couple of weeks ago that this 998 00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:35.639 could be UFO alien stuff. I don't understand what I'm 999 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.239 going through. How am I going to help anybody else? 1000 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.159 And they were like, oh, you probably understand it more. 1001 00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:43.840 You know, you've you've been through it. Okay, So I 1002 00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:49.000 became the coordinator for the abduction group. Now they didn't 1003 00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:50.519 want to have a bar of it. They pushed it 1004 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.000 at arm's length, kept it completely separate from their meetings 1005 00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:57.280 about UFOs and lights in the sky, and every now 1006 00:50:57.320 --> 00:50:59.239 and then they get me to go up and just 1007 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:02.360 report cases, you know, people calling me and telling me 1008 00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:03.960 their story, and they say, I'll just tell them, you know, 1009 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.360 share a couple of stories with us. Anyway, it bawled 1010 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.599 over to the point where Bud Hopkins, he was a 1011 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:14.400 pioneer in the field of abductions, AID and abduction's research, 1012 00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.639 he came out to Australia. I had the pleasure of 1013 00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:21.679 interviewing him before he gave his talk. Colleague of mine 1014 00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.920 interviewed him when he gave his talk. It was all 1015 00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:29.400 about abductions. So these committee members were like, oh shit, 1016 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:32.000 we got to get onto this. We've got to take 1017 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:34.800 control of this. So they tried to hijack the group 1018 00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:37.920 from me, take it over, and they said to me overnight, 1019 00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.639 they said, send us all the information you've gathered, send 1020 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:45.119 it all to us, give us people's contact numbers, everything. 1021 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:48.239 We're going to deal with it. And I was open 1022 00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:51.320 minded to doing it because they were more experienced researchers. 1023 00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:54.199 I thought, I thought they've been around for a while. 1024 00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:58.079 But one of them made a comment and she was 1025 00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:01.440 like vice president of the group. Her and another male 1026 00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:05.039 actually formed it and all that. There was a lot 1027 00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:08.039 of politics involved, but anyway, she actually made a comment 1028 00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:10.400 at a public meeting and said, you know what, if 1029 00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.639 your kids are experiencing this alien abduction stuff, just take 1030 00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:15.800 them down to the Pentecostal church and let them run 1031 00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.000 around the ass and they'll forget about it in no time. 1032 00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:23.079 And I thought, well, great piece of advice. What if 1033 00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.320 the parents don't want to go to church, what if 1034 00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:27.559 they're Muslim, what if they're hind you know what I mean? 1035 00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.280 You can't just tell people go to a Pentecostal church 1036 00:52:31.280 --> 00:52:33.119 and run around the aisles and you'll be great, You'll 1037 00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:36.679 feel great. So there come a time where all come 1038 00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:40.199 to her head. And I decided after a committee meeting, 1039 00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:42.800 I decided that no, I'm not going to give you 1040 00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:45.440 the group handed over to you. I'm actually going to 1041 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.920 go away leave this group. I'm going to start my 1042 00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:50.760 own group. And I went and seen the guy I 1043 00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:53.599 interviewed Bud Hopkins with at eleven thirty at night. I 1044 00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:56.079 dropped by his house on my way home and I 1045 00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:58.039 walked open the door and I said to Mate, that's 1046 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:00.760 it done. Do you want to on board with me? 1047 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.840 And he said hundred percent. We started in the thirteenth 1048 00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.480 of April nineteen ninety three. We started the UFA Experience 1049 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.679 Support Association, which was a nonprofit group, and we were 1050 00:53:10.719 --> 00:53:15.440 fortunate enough that we were inundated with support. We had 1051 00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:20.239 psychologists and psychiatrists, counselors, hypnotherapists, doctors, you know, like we had. 1052 00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:23.480 Everybody wanted to jump on board. It was a good 1053 00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.920 period because we had a lot a lot of support, 1054 00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:30.159 professional support, and we started referring people to do regressions 1055 00:53:30.159 --> 00:53:32.199 and we would pay for some of the regressions, if 1056 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.920 not all, the regressions. We'd pay for all of them, 1057 00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.360 but sometimes we couldn't meet all of us. We'd share, 1058 00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:40.800 we'd go three, we'd pay say seventy five percent, and 1059 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:42.519 they would pay twenty five. Because I didn't want to 1060 00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:45.159 encourage people just to come and waste our money in 1061 00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:48.320 the professionals' time and not input anything out of there, 1062 00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:50.599 like not to cost them anything at all. And it 1063 00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:53.280 wasn't a money making venture or anything. It was shared 1064 00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:57.320 through different researches. It wasn't targeting, sending someone to make 1065 00:53:57.360 --> 00:54:01.320 money from something was never about that. The reason I 1066 00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:05.559 started the support group was to give other people like 1067 00:54:05.679 --> 00:54:08.679 me a venue where they can contact people, talk to 1068 00:54:08.760 --> 00:54:11.679 us and not feel judged. And we never judge. We 1069 00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:14.599 just listened. That's all we did. Our therapy method was 1070 00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:18.519 just listen. Whatever advice they ask you for, if you 1071 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.920 can offer it, If you can't, refer them to someone 1072 00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.400 who can do a bit more work with them. That 1073 00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:26.840 was all it was. And we had a really good 1074 00:54:26.880 --> 00:54:30.079 success rate. I don't think I had you know, a 1075 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:32.280 person come and see us and walk away. God, this 1076 00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:34.800 is bullshit. I don't believe this. You guys are great. 1077 00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:38.239 I'd have couples come in with one of the partners 1078 00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:40.760 having experienced the other one not, and you know what, 1079 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:44.119 lying in bed with someone and they're having an experience 1080 00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:46.719 and they're trying to touch you, or to wake you up, 1081 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.159 or to get a reaction out of you, and they can't. 1082 00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:52.559 You're just gone switched off. And then when you're back, 1083 00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:56.480 you know, you're awake again, you're conscious, and they're telling 1084 00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:58.679 you this story and you go, bullshit, I'm laying right 1085 00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:00.920 next to you. I didn't see any I didn't feel anything. 1086 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:03.679 What are you talking about? I can understand that. And 1087 00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:05.880 we'd have a lot of couples walk in with that 1088 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.000 mindset and I on was having an experience and the 1089 00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:12.119 other one was just totally not wanting to know, not believing, 1090 00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:15.119 and they'd walk out the door and they would shake 1091 00:55:15.199 --> 00:55:17.639 my hand and say, Peter, I came here really angry, 1092 00:55:18.159 --> 00:55:20.800 and I'm leaving with an open mind. You know, I 1093 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.760 will support her, I will do whatever. You know, we'll 1094 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:27.679 come back and attend more meetings. We had Late Line. 1095 00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.079 I was at ABC Late Line or ABC, I mean 1096 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:35.559 not SBS ABC. They did a documentary when John Professor 1097 00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:38.400 John Matt came out to Australia. He lectured at a 1098 00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:41.239 hall where I spoke as well, and they came in 1099 00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:43.760 a couple of days before and filmed the support group 1100 00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:48.119 meeting at my house. And you know, people were saying 1101 00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:50.360 how grateful they were just to have somewhere that they 1102 00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:53.360 can turn to. So I started that and that was 1103 00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:55.800 the first group of its kind in Australia. And I've 1104 00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:57.920 got to say, look, I'm not bragging, but the fact 1105 00:55:58.039 --> 00:56:00.199 is I was one of the first Australians to go 1106 00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:04.039 public and put myself out there and make it. I 1107 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:08.679 was a big target because I'm talking early nineties. We 1108 00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:11.079 didn't have the open minded that we have now in 1109 00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:13.840 the social media that we have now and all the exposure. 1110 00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:18.400 We didn't have the Senate inquiries. If anything, every media outlet, 1111 00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:23.440 from radio, television, newspaper, every time they did a story 1112 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:26.639 on the UFO abduction topic, they would laugh it off 1113 00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:29.400 at the end, snicker and laugh and make it out 1114 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.639 to be a joke. And I remember watching Oprah Winfrey 1115 00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:35.000 Show once John macappeared on there with a couple of 1116 00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:39.199 really credible witnesses. But another show she did was with 1117 00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:44.719 couple who claimed to speak to aliens in their language, 1118 00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:48.440 and they were blabbering and flabbering and making stupid things. 1119 00:56:48.679 --> 00:56:50.960 And you know what, I was sitting here thinking to myself, 1120 00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.719 I could catch them out. No, give me two minutes 1121 00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:55.920 and I could catch these people out and tell you 1122 00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:59.159 they're lying in And Oprah Winfrey after that show made 1123 00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:01.719 the comment she said, I will never ever do another 1124 00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:06.440 show on UFOs. And that's what these idiots do. They 1125 00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:10.320 don't give us credibility, they take away from it. So 1126 00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:13.239 what I would have done if I was Oprah, I 1127 00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:15.960 would have got them to say the sentence and they 1128 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.960 were googling, you know, otle bit, you know, and they're saying, Oh, 1129 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.119 they're going to come and save us, And okay, you 1130 00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:24.840 just said it in their language. Now can you repeat 1131 00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.760 that same sentence, record them and see if the recording 1132 00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.639 plays out the same. And I bet you it wouldn't. 1133 00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:33.199 It'd be just you know, crap going on about bullshit. 1134 00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:37.119 But anyway, that gets to me because the fake people 1135 00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.960 of fraudulent people seem to get more airtime than the 1136 00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:44.960 good people with good cases. Anyway, so we formed a 1137 00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:48.760 support group. We started holding public meetings, started holding film nights, 1138 00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:52.239 and we'd get full houses. There was a stage where 1139 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.400 we'd actually have double the number that we were allowed 1140 00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:57.519 to have there. People would wouldn't mind sitting on the 1141 00:57:57.559 --> 00:58:00.719 floor in the aisles or you know, ask us if 1142 00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:02.840 we can put a second back to back Phil Knight 1143 00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:05.400 or meeting just sow that ain't miss out. So it 1144 00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:09.880 will become pretty popular and dominated the scene in Australia 1145 00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:13.199 for a long time. And it got to a stage 1146 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:19.800 where my business changed, my income changed, and I couldn't pump, 1147 00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:23.719 you know, put money, donate money or whatever to help 1148 00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:24.280 out in that. 1149 00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:36.000 You don't always know you're in a cult. Not at first. 1150 00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:40.039 It feels like truth, like purpose, like home. Then the 1151 00:58:40.119 --> 00:58:43.960 rules change, the world gets smaller, and obedience becomes survival. 1152 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.880 Hidden Cults is the podcast that takes you inside the 1153 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:50.519 world's most disturbing belief systems, from the mass suicide of 1154 00:58:50.519 --> 00:58:53.880 Heaven's Gate to the gas attacks of arms Shinrikio to 1155 00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.280 the fiery siege in Waco, Texas. 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This is in nineteen ninety two now, 1166 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:37.440 and I know I've been rambling on for a while 1167 00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.360 about other things, but this is the most all my 1168 00:59:40.440 --> 00:59:44.400 experiences to me are important. But this is an experience 1169 00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:46.599 that brought it all to the four because of the 1170 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:49.480 evidence that it had. Although the mark on my head 1171 00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:51.840 and the one on my shind from my eighty eight 1172 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:56.360 experience were there as physical, it couldn't be scientifically. Sort 1173 00:59:56.400 --> 00:59:59.960 of chase that up too much. But in ninety ninety 1174 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:05.519 to I was working in May. I was working at 1175 01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:07.960 a friend's house. He got married, he was on his honeymoon. 1176 01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.000 He was my best man at my wedding. Were friends 1177 01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:12.679 for twenty two years, best of friends. He was on 1178 01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:15.320 his honeymoon. I was renovating, helping him fix his house. 1179 01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:19.199 Saved him about, you know, fifty five sixty thousand dollars 1180 01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.280 in building work. And as I was working there, his 1181 01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:25.400 dad wanted me to do work at his house. It 1182 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:28.320 was Duli kipency, which meant the house was stuck together 1183 01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:30.480 with for wall down the middle split in the two houses. 1184 01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:33.960 And he wanted a lot of work done for very 1185 01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:36.840 little money. And I sort of said, it's going to 1186 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.840 cost you six times what you're offering. I can't do it. 1187 01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:41.880 I'm too busy anyway, So he went and got other 1188 01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:44.320 people and told them, oh, Peter was going to do 1189 01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.400 the job for five thousand, I'll give it to you 1190 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.239 for five thousand, five hundred And they started to do 1191 01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:52.440 the job and then realized they couldn't do it, and 1192 01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.880 they went to rend Us. He met render a painted 1193 01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:56.719 wall and the paint kept falling off. So I had 1194 01:00:56.719 --> 01:00:58.639 to go over and show them how to do it, 1195 01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:01.239 prepared it for and fixed it. So I went out 1196 01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.159 of my way to help. And then as I left 1197 01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:07.480 for three days and had to come back and pick 1198 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.320 up my tools and finish one little section. As I 1199 01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.079 walked up the driveway, one of them says to me, 1200 01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:17.800 are you stupid? Like what are you talking about? And 1201 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:19.599 he's like, you were going to do this job for 1202 01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.920 five thousand dollars And I said, no, mate, I was 1203 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.320 going to do that job for twenty five thousand dollars. 1204 01:01:26.039 --> 01:01:28.159 Oh maybe when he told you, you didn't hear the 1205 01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.400 twenty you just heard five. And as I was saying that, 1206 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:34.039 there was a guy that one of the partners, this 1207 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.280 guy's partner that was questioning me, was washing some tools 1208 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:39.719 in a bucket at a tap and he was maybe 1209 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:43.239 about I don't know, eight meters away from me, less 1210 01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:46.280 than ten meters. And as I'm saying, no, mate, you 1211 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:49.639 probably misheard him, I said twenty five. All I see 1212 01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:51.760 is the guy launched a knife at me, and it 1213 01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:54.360 hit me straight in my chest above my heart and 1214 01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.079 wedged in my chest. So I looked at I look there, 1215 01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:58.960 I must see a knife sticking out of my chest. 1216 01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.559 And instead of like I've been concerned to leave it, 1217 01:02:01.679 --> 01:02:03.920 let the doctors pull it out or something, I pulled 1218 01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:07.760 it out straight away, and I threw it on the 1219 01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:11.599 other side of my ute, my tray lane car. I 1220 01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:13.960 threw it over so they couldn't get to it, and 1221 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:17.079 took a couple of steps towards the guy. He picked 1222 01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:18.480 up a shovel. This is the guy who threw the 1223 01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:21.639 knife at me. He picked up a shovel and swung 1224 01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.400 at me, and I blocked it. He dropped the shovel 1225 01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:27.360 and ran from behind. I didn't even see it come in. 1226 01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.519 Another guy he had a long, longer shovel, and he 1227 01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:32.760 just swung it over his shoulder, straight on the top 1228 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:35.880 of my head. Not flat edged, mind you, not at 1229 01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:37.719 the base of you know, like at the flat end 1230 01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:41.079 of the shovel, sharp edged. So I copped that corn 1231 01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:44.079 over that shovel on the edge, right on my head. 1232 01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:47.719 Second hit got me. By that time, I turned around 1233 01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:51.199 and I saw the third swing was the shovel was 1234 01:02:51.280 --> 01:02:52.719 up in the air coming down at me. So I 1235 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:56.800 blocked it, fractured my thumb in the process. He dropped 1236 01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:59.920 the shovel and I grabbed him. I grabbed him by 1237 01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:02.159 the shoulders. I had no strength. My knees went from 1238 01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:04.119 under me. I thought I was going to die. I 1239 01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:06.719 thought my head was I had blood anyway. As I 1240 01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:10.400 grabbed onto his shoulders, like grabbed him by the shirt, 1241 01:03:11.159 --> 01:03:13.159 I felt my knees go and I thought, I can't 1242 01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.159 even throw a punchy go or head butt this guy 1243 01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.559 or anything. I'm just going to drop. And I knew 1244 01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:21.320 it was coming, so he's as I started to drop 1245 01:03:21.519 --> 01:03:23.920 my knees went from under me. He grabbed the top 1246 01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:25.840 of my head and pulled it and when he pulled it, 1247 01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.239 it was like a fountain. Blood just shot out everywhere, 1248 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:31.880 covered me and him in blood. And so one of 1249 01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:33.840 the guys that was with me in laborer, he ran 1250 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.599 in and pushed him away and grabbed him and he goes, 1251 01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:38.679 you you're going to kill him, And the guy says, 1252 01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:41.159 what do you think we're trying to do? Like there 1253 01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.599 was an attempted murder. Anyway, cops get called. I walked 1254 01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.000 down the driveway, I'm on the main road. I'm passing 1255 01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:49.440 out like this, I'm covered in blood. I'm passing out, 1256 01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:53.920 massive head injury and up in the ambulance. Now, when 1257 01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.679 the coppers got there, they diverted some detectives from a 1258 01:03:56.719 --> 01:03:59.079 drug raid. And when they got there, two detectives walked 1259 01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:01.119 up the drive and they said they could see a 1260 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:05.000 die washing red liquid off him what allegedly could have 1261 01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:07.440 been blood. They can't actually say, oh, yeah, it was 1262 01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:09.519 blood because they didn't test it or see where it 1263 01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:11.840 came from. So they said it looked like blood, but 1264 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:13.599 it could have been paint. But he was washing his 1265 01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.719 hands and that was the guy who hit me from behind. Anyway, 1266 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:19.280 I'm in the back of an ambulance, gone to the hospital, 1267 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:21.440 and I'm passing out and coming to and it was 1268 01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:23.719 two females, one driving, one in the back with me. 1269 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:27.119 And I can hear them saying, what a shame a 1270 01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.920 young guy this like, look how young he is, and 1271 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.960 he's a hairline away from death. And that's what I 1272 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.480 could hear. When I'm lucked out, I couldn't speak say anything, 1273 01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:38.079 you know, just listening to this, and I'll come in 1274 01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:40.840 and out of consciousness. Anyway, I get taken a hospital. 1275 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:43.480 They shaved half my head, you know, and they stitch 1276 01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:45.760 me up or whatever. And then two detectives go to 1277 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.719 my wife's my wife's work and pick her up. We 1278 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:51.079 got married in nineteen ninety years, so this is ninety 1279 01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:53.599 two and now we're married for two years. They'd go, 1280 01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:57.159 two female detectives picked her up, and she actually they 1281 01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:59.039 went and spoke to her boss first, and then her 1282 01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:01.920 boss spoke to her, so it was very official. So 1283 01:05:01.960 --> 01:05:04.880 she thought I was dead. She thought, whatever happened to me, 1284 01:05:04.920 --> 01:05:08.320 I was dead, And these female detectives take it to 1285 01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:11.159 see my body, you know, or identify me or whatever. 1286 01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:13.440 So all the way to the hospital, which would have 1287 01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:16.599 been probably fifteen minute drive, She's like, my husband's dead, 1288 01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:18.599 isn't he And they're like, look, we don't know. He's 1289 01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:21.039 badly injured. We don't know where he's at at the moment. 1290 01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:23.840 We haven't been updated. When we get there, you'll find out. 1291 01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:26.280 So she walked in the room expecting to see me, 1292 01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:31.280 you know, probably dead or dying. And that changed our lives. 1293 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:36.159 That incident actually changed our lives. And I remember my 1294 01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:39.320 mate had come back from his honeymoon and he walked 1295 01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:42.960 into the hospital and instead of asking me, Apete, are 1296 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:45.119 you okay? What did they do? You know, I'm going 1297 01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:46.639 to go off. I'm going to smash them. That's what 1298 01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:48.480 I would have done, or said, mate, anyone hurt you, 1299 01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.280 I'm going to go and pay them back. But nah, 1300 01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:53.920 his first question he asked. He didn't even like ask 1301 01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.920 my wife. This was my best man at my wedding, 1302 01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.960 you know, like family. He didn't say to my wife 1303 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:03.639 you are you okay? Do you need anything? You know, Pete, 1304 01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:06.480 are you okay? Nothing? He just walked in and said, 1305 01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:08.440 what are you going to do about my father? Because 1306 01:06:08.480 --> 01:06:11.559 his father was the one that instigated it. All, and 1307 01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:13.960 I said, tell your father to tell the truth, and 1308 01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:16.480 he's got nothing to worry about. So when it went 1309 01:06:16.519 --> 01:06:19.800 to court, my best mate's father stood up as a 1310 01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:23.280 witness and said, I get sand in my eyes. I 1311 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:27.480 go blind. I see nothing in that accent. I see nothing. 1312 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.360 And the magistrate said, I don't accept your version of events. 1313 01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:33.639 I think you're lying. Get out of the court. Remove 1314 01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:36.639 him out of the court. So he didn't even tell 1315 01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:38.840 the truth, you know, and that really pissed me off. 1316 01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:43.719 Since that day, I have not spoken to my ex friend, 1317 01:06:43.960 --> 01:06:46.719 ex best man since that day. We've never said a 1318 01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:49.199 word to each other ever since. I'm not one to 1319 01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:52.039 hold grudges like that. I can't forgive, but there's some 1320 01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:55.440 things that are unforgivable. But anyway, so I was going 1321 01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:59.400 through a lot of health issues, you know, like migrain's headaches. 1322 01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:04.480 I was on medication, painkillers so on. So I wasn't 1323 01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:06.960 working and for three years I didn't work, and it 1324 01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:09.440 puts such a strain. We had just got a mortgage, 1325 01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:13.400 and it puts such a strain on our marriage, you know, 1326 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:16.400 on our life on. But you know, she stuck solid 1327 01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:20.440 at that time, and she'd go to work and we'd 1328 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.960 have to go up to the service station and give 1329 01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:26.239 them a ten dollars silver coin that I had and 1330 01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:28.440 get a ten dollar note so she can pay for 1331 01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:30.679 a train ticket to get to work, you know, until 1332 01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:33.960 we get a next paycheck. Then i'd go by that 1333 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:38.039 ten dollar silver thing back from the service station. Anyway, 1334 01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:41.920 July twenty third, nine ninety two, I get up to 1335 01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:45.079 take my wife driver to the station. I'm not feeling 1336 01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:47.199 sick at all. I'd jump out of bed. You don't 1337 01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:49.199 get out, jump in the car. She jumps in the car. 1338 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.800 We take off. I drive out of my driveway. I 1339 01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:56.199 turned right, heading to there's like four houses, and then 1340 01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:59.199 there's a crossroad and I've got to turn left. As 1341 01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:03.199 I turned left into that street head into the station, 1342 01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:06.599 I started to feel sick. Now, when I say sick, 1343 01:08:06.639 --> 01:08:11.199 I started to feel nauseous. I really wanted to vomit instant. 1344 01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:13.239 It just came up as soon as I pulled out 1345 01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:16.159 on my street. And now the further I got from 1346 01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:20.680 my house heading towards the train station, the more sick 1347 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.600 I felt, and the more I started vomiting. I was 1348 01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:28.479 vomiting liquid yellow and green in color. Sometimes it had 1349 01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:30.840 come out as yellow. Sometimes it had come out as green. 1350 01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:33.760 Look that the drive from my house to the station, 1351 01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:39.239 I reckon four minutes, four minutes at max. I could 1352 01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:41.520 speed a little bit and make it in three. I reckon, 1353 01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:46.239 but let's say four minutes. I must have stopped twenty 1354 01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:48.920 twenty five times on the way. And the further I 1355 01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:53.359 got from home, the more regularly. Like at first, it started, 1356 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:57.960 every say, fifteen to twenty meters, I'll stop and vomit. 1357 01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:01.359 As I got closer to this, it'd be like every 1358 01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:04.920 two meters, or you know, every five meters, i'd stop, 1359 01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.439 move it a little bit a couple of meters, and then 1360 01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:09.920 i'd stop, open the door again, and all this liquid. 1361 01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:13.399 I don't know where it was coming from so much. Anyway, 1362 01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:15.680 i'd dropped her off. She said, look, go home, lie down. 1363 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:18.840 If you still stick, go see your doctor. She leaves. 1364 01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:22.079 I come home, and I'm getting sick. I'm vomiting on 1365 01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:25.000 the way back home. But I noticed the closer I 1366 01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:28.119 got to my house, the less frequent I would stop 1367 01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:30.840 and vomit. And then when I came into my street, 1368 01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:33.520 I didn't have to pull up. I didn't vomit anyway 1369 01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:36.520 in my street, And as I pulled into my driveway. 1370 01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:40.039 I felt fine, so I opened my front door, walking 1371 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:43.560 to my room, getting in under the put the quilt 1372 01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:47.760 over me. And this probably would have been now five 1373 01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:51.079 past ten past seven in the morning, and I'm lying 1374 01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:53.520 in bed. I wasn't asleep. I was just lying there 1375 01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:55.479 and I was thinking about why did I get so 1376 01:09:55.640 --> 01:09:57.560 sick and now I'm not sick anymore? You know, I 1377 01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:01.319 couldn't figure that out. And as I'm thinking that through 1378 01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:05.199 in my head, I felt like something sat on my 1379 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:08.880 bed and I felt indentation in the mattress. I felt it. 1380 01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:11.439 It was no doubt something or someone just sat on 1381 01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:14.880 my bed so caught my attention. I went to sit 1382 01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:16.920 up because I thought to myself, Okay, we don't have 1383 01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:20.199 any pets. When I opened the door, did a cat 1384 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:22.239 sneak in? And I didn't realize because you know, I 1385 01:10:22.239 --> 01:10:24.680 was thinking about this vomiting thing. Maybe I didn't realize. 1386 01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:28.680 So when I sat up in my bed, I expected 1387 01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.079 to be under the quilts, move the quilts off me, 1388 01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:35.279 to sit up and maybe see a cat or a dog. 1389 01:10:35.359 --> 01:10:38.520 Even I don't know the least I expected to see 1390 01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:41.119 what was what I saw. My eyes are open. I 1391 01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:43.159 sit up, and as I sit up, I'm no longer 1392 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:47.000 under the quilt. I'm on top and there's a female straddler, 1393 01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:52.840 mere naked female sitting on top of me, completely naked, milky, 1394 01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:55.319 milky white skin. Not a fault in a skin. I 1395 01:10:55.359 --> 01:10:57.560 didn't see a mole. I didn't see a scratch. I 1396 01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:02.359 didn't see a scar. Perfect skin, milky white in color, 1397 01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:07.800 very very tall, and perfection. Perfection. Her body was just 1398 01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:13.920 perfection anyway. She had a beautiful face, flawless again, whitish, 1399 01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:18.840 flimsy hair. When I say flimsy, I don't mean hardly 1400 01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:21.760 any hair on her. She had hair. It was thick, 1401 01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:25.399 but when you look at the hair itself, it looked transparent. 1402 01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:28.479 It looked see through, It looked That's why I say flimsy. 1403 01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:30.880 You know, it didn't look solid like our hair does. 1404 01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:33.720 It was sort of blowing back, and I compared it 1405 01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:37.399 to Farri Faucet Majors from Charlie's Angels. How her hair, 1406 01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:39.760 you know, sometimes that Chine would be blowing back a 1407 01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:44.239 little bit and whitish in color, blondie white. She had. 1408 01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.359 Her eyes were probably twice the size of human eyes. 1409 01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:50.840 But when she reacted to what I did her eyes 1410 01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:53.560 must have opened bigger, like even a human being. When 1411 01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:55.520 you're shot and you open your eyes, they look bigger 1412 01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:58.319 sometimes I say two to three times bigger than a 1413 01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:00.840 human's eyes. Yeah, because when she was shocked, that did 1414 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:04.920 look like that, but maybe twice, just a bit bigger 1415 01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:08.359 than twice the size. So very large eyes blue in color, beautiful, 1416 01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:12.640 the most beautifulest blue you've ever seen. Her nose, she 1417 01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:15.239 had a longer nose, not a big nose, because her 1418 01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:19.880 face was elongated. She had protruding cheekbones. It was sort 1419 01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:22.520 of thinned in at the bottom of the cheeks and 1420 01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:26.199 then down to a chin. The chin wasn't pointed like 1421 01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:29.640 a witch's chin, but it wasn't wide. It did narrow 1422 01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.640 down a bit to a point to chin. I didn't 1423 01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:37.359 see teeth or anything, but the lips were absolutely perfect lips, beautiful, 1424 01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:41.680 absolutely stunning female. I noticed on the right side of 1425 01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:46.279 the bed, like at my waist level, between my waist 1426 01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:49.479 and my knees, aye around my thigh area. On the 1427 01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:52.520 side of the bed was another female and she was 1428 01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:58.079 Asian looking, darker, skin shorter, and she looked like she 1429 01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:00.239 had a bit of a belly too. At the I 1430 01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:02.640 thought oh, she's pregnant, but the way she was sitting 1431 01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:05.119 it might have, you know, pushed it out a bit. 1432 01:13:05.560 --> 01:13:08.359 She had like a black hair cage boy style cart 1433 01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:12.680 you know, across the forehead, Asian looking skin color. Her 1434 01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:17.000 eyes looked more like human to it than the other 1435 01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:20.159 one did. But I could see a lot of black 1436 01:13:20.359 --> 01:13:22.640 in her eyes. I could just see a little bit 1437 01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:26.520 of whites on either end. Normal face, you know, normal features, 1438 01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:29.840 normal mouth, everything. She was sitting down with her legs 1439 01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:33.399 crossed under, not crossed, but bent behind her. So she 1440 01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:36.239 was sitting down her butt on her calfs, and at 1441 01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:39.600 one stage she was grabbing her ankles, like had both 1442 01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:42.760 hands around her ankles. And at another time I saw 1443 01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:44.920 her she had her hands on her knees clutched. The 1444 01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:49.119 blonde female that was straddling me, I noticed when I 1445 01:13:49.159 --> 01:13:51.279 sat up. When I first reacted to her, and I 1446 01:13:51.359 --> 01:13:54.840 sat up, I went to sit up. I saw my 1447 01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:58.720 astral body, or you could call it my soul. I 1448 01:13:58.760 --> 01:14:01.479 saw it sit up. It just moved and sat I 1449 01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:04.359 saw this transparent image of me, like a glass image 1450 01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:07.640 of me, sit up, and it was between me and 1451 01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:10.560 this female. And I'm looking at this thing. I could 1452 01:14:10.600 --> 01:14:12.399 tell it was an image of me. And then through 1453 01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:14.720 that image, I could see that blonde I could see 1454 01:14:14.720 --> 01:14:16.800 her on the other side, So it was a fully 1455 01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.520 transparent image. But I could tell that was me, you know, 1456 01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:21.920 it was the soul. I don't know. All of a 1457 01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:24.840 sudden I caught up and my physical body and my 1458 01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:28.520 astral body became one again. And the second that happened, 1459 01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.279 she cut the back of my head with both her hands. 1460 01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:34.439 She locked her hands fingers together, cut the back of 1461 01:14:34.479 --> 01:14:37.720 my head and brought me towards her left breast and 1462 01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:40.920 buried my face in her breast. So I put my hands, 1463 01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:44.319 both my hands against her body around a tummy area, 1464 01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:47.840 and I pushed away and I was able to push away. 1465 01:14:48.319 --> 01:14:50.680 Once again, she pushed my face back to her left 1466 01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:53.680 breast and buried my face a bit deeper, like harder 1467 01:14:53.760 --> 01:14:56.520 in there. Tried to push away, tried to push away, 1468 01:14:56.840 --> 01:14:58.239 and then I had to foot use a bit of 1469 01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:01.359 force to pull away. I was able to move back. 1470 01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:04.279 Then the third time she did it, she pushed my 1471 01:15:04.359 --> 01:15:06.920 face in her left breast and just buried my face 1472 01:15:06.960 --> 01:15:10.000 in there. And I tried to push try. She was 1473 01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:12.840 super strong. I could not push away from her and 1474 01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:16.680 my face was buried like, I couldn't breathe. My nose 1475 01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.920 was covered, my mouth was covered. I'm claustrophobic at the 1476 01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:23.119 best of time. Look, I've been through robberies. I've had 1477 01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:25.800 three times. I've had cho guns to my head, one shotgun, 1478 01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:29.119 a revolver, and a pistol at three different times. Should 1479 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:31.239 have been killed, but luckily I wasn't. I think I've 1480 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:34.800 got good guardian angels. When she buried my face the 1481 01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:38.800 third time, I just couldn't breathe. I was struggling to breathe. 1482 01:15:39.319 --> 01:15:42.439 And when it's claustrophobia for me, it hits me quick. 1483 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:44.960 It's not like I can you know, I'll relax through 1484 01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:47.560 a word, I'll meditate it. No, no, no, no, it's 1485 01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:50.600 pretty bad anxiety. So I couldn't breathe. I couldn't push 1486 01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:54.079 away from her. I panicked and while my face was 1487 01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:57.319 buried in there, you know, a breast in my nose, 1488 01:15:57.359 --> 01:15:59.680 in my mouth, and I opened my mouth and I 1489 01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:01.920 just pinched off my teeth like you would pinch with 1490 01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.199 your fingers. There was just a little pinch on the 1491 01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:06.640 skin to let me go, you know, let me breathe. 1492 01:16:07.159 --> 01:16:09.279 And I was still trying to push away, and I couldn't. 1493 01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.720 But as soon as I pinched her with my teeth, 1494 01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:15.279 she let go, and she had this shocked look about her, 1495 01:16:15.319 --> 01:16:17.800 and that's where her eyes opened up and looked massive, 1496 01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:21.880 and she looked over at the Asian looking female, and 1497 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:26.079 there was telepathic communication, instant telepathic communication, and it was 1498 01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.199 he's done me strung. Something's gone wrong. This isn't like 1499 01:16:29.239 --> 01:16:31.680 the last time he's done me strung. Something's gone wrong. 1500 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:34.920 And here I am sitting there, freaking out and thinking 1501 01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:39.520 what last time? What the last time? You know? And 1502 01:16:39.960 --> 01:16:42.000 as I'm doing that, I look at her and I 1503 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:46.359 don't see any mark on her, any blood, any cut. 1504 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:50.479 I didn't see anything where I took that little nip that, 1505 01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:54.279 of course, But as soon as I took a nip 1506 01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:57.399 of you pinched off my teeth and pulled away from her, 1507 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.680 I felt in the back of my throat, poured acid 1508 01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:02.800 down the back of my throat, and it was burning 1509 01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:07.319 like you would not believe. So I had this coughing fit, 1510 01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:10.239 and I'm coughing. But then I'll see I can hear 1511 01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:14.680 them communicating telepathically, and then she turns her attention to me, 1512 01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:19.600 and I get a telepathic download, and it was basically 1513 01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:24.760 things about my marriage future. I knew my marriage was 1514 01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:26.399 going to come to an end at a certain time. 1515 01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:30.880 I was told something about portals being opening in the future, 1516 01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:33.119 twenty five years in the future, which would have put 1517 01:17:33.119 --> 01:17:36.720 it what twenty seventeen, and I think that's when these 1518 01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:40.079 things started happening. Hydro Colida and all this stuff opening. 1519 01:17:40.279 --> 01:17:42.279 Crazy things are happening around the world. That's why we're 1520 01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.439 seeing crazy where they were seeing crazy, crazy sort of 1521 01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:48.920 creatures that were never seeing in our world, and now 1522 01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:52.520 they're appearing and people are seeing them and reporting them. 1523 01:17:52.520 --> 01:17:55.079 You know, I got told this would happen years ago, 1524 01:17:55.279 --> 01:17:57.319 and I spoke about it years ago and said that 1525 01:17:57.439 --> 01:17:59.520 in the future, you know, there will be these portals 1526 01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:02.840 that and it'll bring things into our world that we've 1527 01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:06.439 never seen before. You know, some are good, some are bad. Anyway, 1528 01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:10.039 So I'm getting these coughing fits now, and they're really 1529 01:18:10.079 --> 01:18:13.159 really hurting me. Like the way I'm coughing, it's hurting 1530 01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.880 my throat, it's hurting my internal organs, and that I'm 1531 01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:22.479 heavily coughing. I look up, they're gone, vanished. I didn't 1532 01:18:22.520 --> 01:18:25.279 see them leave. I didn't see them come into the room. 1533 01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:27.399 I didn't see them leave the room. I don't know 1534 01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:29.960 how they got in or out, but just sat there 1535 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.760 for a couple of seconds, thinking what the hell just happened? 1536 01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:34.680 And then I had the urge to use the bathroom. 1537 01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:37.159 But before that, I thought, I'll go in the kitchen, 1538 01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.199 I'll drink some water, eat some lebonese bread, thinking that 1539 01:18:40.239 --> 01:18:42.800 whatever's in there, it'll absorb it. The bread will absorb 1540 01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:45.239 and the water will wash it down. But as soon 1541 01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.399 as I the water went down and hit the back 1542 01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:49.680 of my throat, it was like you added fuel to 1543 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.479 the fire and it just erupted and the coughing would 1544 01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:56.920 non stop for twenty minutes, and every time i'd cough, 1545 01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:00.239 I'd cough for ten to twenty minutes straight. And by 1546 01:19:00.279 --> 01:19:03.680 that time this lasted for three days, and at the 1547 01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:07.319 end of it, my organs, every organ in my body 1548 01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:10.399 muscle was ache insamon. You cough for twenty minutes at 1549 01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:14.039 a time twice and you'll see you'll have how you feel. 1550 01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:17.399 But I did this for three days, and every time 1551 01:19:17.479 --> 01:19:21.079 I wouldn't cough all day, they'd be you know, an 1552 01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.479 hour I wouldn't But once I coughed it'd be a 1553 01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.800 ten to twenty minute cough. Anyway, tried to wash it down, 1554 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:30.119 it made it even worse. Got the urge to go 1555 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:33.000 to the bathroom. Went to the bathroom. And any man 1556 01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:35.479 will tell you when they go to pe, you get 1557 01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:37.680 a build up, then you get release. And as soon 1558 01:19:37.720 --> 01:19:40.800 as I felt the build up, it felt like something 1559 01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:45.680 had slashed my penis with one hundred raizors, like I 1560 01:19:45.680 --> 01:19:50.119 had one hundred slashes, and it was burning so much. 1561 01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:53.159 And when I had a look, I could see there 1562 01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:57.600 were two hairs. One was like half wrapped around and 1563 01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:01.439 one was like an s down the shark. But if 1564 01:20:01.479 --> 01:20:03.720 you grab your fingernail and stick it in your skin 1565 01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:05.760 and your hand, back of your hand or something, and 1566 01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:09.439 you get that indentation, it goes a bit deeper into you. 1567 01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:12.880 That's how they were on my private area. They were 1568 01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:16.039 embedded in. They weren't just hairs sitting there and aren't 1569 01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:18.960 just oh I put fall outer. These were embedded in. 1570 01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:22.439 They weren't going anywhere unless they were removed, either by 1571 01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:25.560 me or by a surgeon. Say so, as I'm in 1572 01:20:25.600 --> 01:20:29.640 the bathroom, I can feel a slashing feeling. It looks 1573 01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:31.960 like I've been cut and then I thought, okay, it 1574 01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:34.840 must be the way these are dug into my flesh, 1575 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.399 you know, So I went to remove them. I started 1576 01:20:37.399 --> 01:20:39.520 to try and remove the one wrapped around first because 1577 01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:42.840 it was a smaller one, and I had tears running 1578 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.800 down my face, my eyes, I was crying. It was 1579 01:20:46.119 --> 01:20:49.800 excruciating pain. It was one of the worst planes I 1580 01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:51.960 felt in that area. And I tell you, I did 1581 01:20:52.039 --> 01:20:54.840 kickboxing and other martial arts. I got kicked in the 1582 01:20:56.119 --> 01:21:01.560 that region and one of my child making devices actually 1583 01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:04.319 swelled up like a bigger than a tennis ball, you know, 1584 01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:07.560 And I've felt pain down there, but it was nothing 1585 01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:11.520 like this. This was just absolute pain. And so anyway, 1586 01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:13.800 eventually got as I was taking them off. Actually I 1587 01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:17.800 had tears running down my face. I was crying. Got 1588 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:20.119 managed to take them off, and straight away I'll put 1589 01:21:20.159 --> 01:21:22.239 him in a plastic bag because I knew the night 1590 01:21:22.279 --> 01:21:25.399 before my wife went to sleep, I had a shower, 1591 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:28.720 I went to sleep, nothing happened between us. We fell 1592 01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:31.720 asleep and that was it. So I knew that these 1593 01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:35.079 hairs had to be from what happened to me that morning. 1594 01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:37.680 So I put him in a plastic bag, put a 1595 01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:39.359 note on it the date at the time. You know 1596 01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:43.000 what happened to females, one Asian, one blonde looking, and 1597 01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:48.359 I just kept them And about nine nine o'clock quart 1598 01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:52.279 a past nine, so I called my wife at work 1599 01:21:53.159 --> 01:21:55.439 and we're talking, you know, for like a minute, and 1600 01:21:55.439 --> 01:21:57.199 then she says to me, who am I talking to? 1601 01:21:58.119 --> 01:21:59.960 I said, it's your husband, Pete, aren't. She goes, I'm 1602 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:05.199 got Pete. I can't even recognize your voice. And I said, yeah, 1603 01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:08.520 I've been coughing. Maybe that's why. And as I'm talking 1604 01:22:08.520 --> 01:22:10.800 to her, mind you, I'd break into out coughing, and 1605 01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:12.720 I'd cough for a while and I'd have to stop 1606 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:14.199 and try and get a word intill it. Just give 1607 01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:17.039 me a few minutes. And I said to her, I said, look, 1608 01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:19.680 I'm going to tell you what happened to me. When 1609 01:22:19.720 --> 01:22:23.199 I tell you relate this coughing fits to her, I'm 1610 01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:26.680 going to tell you. She goes, okay, so she come home. 1611 01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:29.239 What happened. I'm not ready to talk about it yet, okay. No. 1612 01:22:29.319 --> 01:22:33.000 Aries took me three weeks to get the courage. I 1613 01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:35.720 think it was in August around the twenty first or 1614 01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:38.479 twenty or twenty first that I got the courage and 1615 01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:41.079 I did feel guilty. I got to admit. You know, 1616 01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:43.079 how you're going to tell your partner how two females 1617 01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:46.359 in your room appeared and disappeared? You can't explain. One 1618 01:22:46.359 --> 01:22:48.960 thing I did to mention was the blonde towards the 1619 01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:52.920 end or at one stage she touched her stomach and 1620 01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.600 pointed up to the sky. I didn't know what that 1621 01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:59.239 meant at the time, but later on speaking to people, 1622 01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:01.479 and I said, would have been telling you she's going 1623 01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:03.720 to be before she's pregnant, or we'll be pregnant, she'll have 1624 01:23:03.760 --> 01:23:06.479 a child up there, whatever. But I just thought I 1625 01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:09.039 pointed out because down the track it was, you know, 1626 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:12.399 relate to me that way. But anyway, it took me 1627 01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:14.359 three weeks to tell her what happened. When I did, 1628 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:17.800 her reaction just shocked me. She was just so totally 1629 01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:20.720 open minded about it, and she was like Peter. She said, look, 1630 01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:22.560 you drove me to the station. You were sick as 1631 01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:25.079 a dog, you were vomiting all the way. She said, 1632 01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:27.319 there's no way you're going to go home after being 1633 01:23:27.359 --> 01:23:29.880 sick and vomiting and walking at seven in the morning 1634 01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:32.840 and call a girl hookers or some people have accused 1635 01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:36.039 me of calling prostitutes over. Yeah, I've just been vomiting. 1636 01:23:36.119 --> 01:23:37.720 The next thing I want to do is have two 1637 01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:40.800 girls here to kiss and whatever after I've vomited. Oh 1638 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:44.359 my god, I think about that. Some of the explanations 1639 01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:47.600 to explain my story are far more crazier than my 1640 01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:52.199 story itself. But anyway, so her reaction was like, you 1641 01:23:52.279 --> 01:23:55.399 didn't instigate it, you didn't invite him in there. They 1642 01:23:55.439 --> 01:23:57.960 did it. You're a victim. And I never looked at 1643 01:23:58.000 --> 01:23:59.720 it that way. I never thought about it that way. 1644 01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:01.479 And I have a lot of people now when I 1645 01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.319 did podcasts, they comment and they say Peter was a 1646 01:24:04.359 --> 01:24:06.840 sexual assault victim. And I don't know if I can 1647 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:09.359 use the word, maybe I'll use grape instead of the word. 1648 01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:12.239 You know, it was a sexual assault thing and whatever. 1649 01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:17.119 So after discussing it with her, she accepted it moved on. 1650 01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:19.680 You know, it was experienced that I had a couple 1651 01:24:19.720 --> 01:24:25.000 of years later, there were two female producers here and 1652 01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:28.119 they wanted to do a film documentary film about my case, 1653 01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:31.039 and they were in my house talking. I had Bill 1654 01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:33.319 Chalker here as well. He was the one who wrote 1655 01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:36.439 the book Here of the Alien. As we're talking, they 1656 01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:38.840 were more interested in buying these T shirts that I 1657 01:24:38.920 --> 01:24:42.199 had to give to the producers at Channel seven who 1658 01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:45.920 were gonna roll with this film. The T shirt had 1659 01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:49.640 about twenty faces of an alien and it says the 1660 01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:51.920 many moods of an Alien, but it was just one face, 1661 01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:56.359 one expression. It was funny for the time. As we're talking, 1662 01:24:56.600 --> 01:24:59.319 I could one of them just piked up and said, 1663 01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:01.239 you know what, Pete, if this is really happening to 1664 01:25:01.279 --> 01:25:04.159 people and it's a real thing, there should be physical evidence. 1665 01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:07.279 She goes, you know in rape cases, assault cases, and 1666 01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:11.640 that there's always evidence, whether it's blood, skin, hair, semen. 1667 01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:14.359 I said, and I'm glad she said hair, because I said, 1668 01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:16.640 do you want to see evidence, I'll show you evidence. 1669 01:25:17.159 --> 01:25:20.479 I walked, walked into another room, grabbed a sample, walked 1670 01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:23.720 out and showed it to her. And to her she looked, 1671 01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:26.000 oh yeah, she read the note on there. Okay, yeah, 1672 01:25:26.199 --> 01:25:30.079 two hairs in there. Bill Chalker, who's got a scientific background, 1673 01:25:30.720 --> 01:25:33.880 his ears pricked up. Now. Bill had written two books. 1674 01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:37.199 One was The OS Files, released in the nineties, I think, 1675 01:25:37.319 --> 01:25:39.600 and then Hair of the Alien, which was released in 1676 01:25:39.640 --> 01:25:43.720 two thousand and five. My nineteen eighty eight experience is 1677 01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:45.680 in the ODS files. Bill wrote it up in the 1678 01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:48.399 OS files, so he was very aware of my eighty 1679 01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:51.399 eight experience. So he's sitting here and he's like, Peter, 1680 01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:54.760 why haven't you told me about this ninety two case 1681 01:25:54.800 --> 01:25:58.239 with the sample? I said, Bill, my nineteen eighty eight story, 1682 01:25:58.640 --> 01:26:01.319 he's a can of worms. This is something else altogether, 1683 01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:03.840 like and you know, if I didn't have the evidence, 1684 01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:05.800 I wouldn't have gone public with that story because I 1685 01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:08.399 know they're going to sexualize it straight away and make 1686 01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:10.640 out like it's fantasies and so on, fancas in the 1687 01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:14.199 mind whatever. So anyway, I said, yeah, I made it. 1688 01:26:14.359 --> 01:26:16.640 You know, it happened, and this is the samples I got. 1689 01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:18.960 And he was like, okay, you know, let me do 1690 01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:21.399 some work and I'll see what I come up with. 1691 01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:24.560 And it took six years. I got a pall from 1692 01:26:24.600 --> 01:26:26.880 him and he asked me if I was interested in 1693 01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:30.119 having the hair tested, and I said, yeah, sure, I'd 1694 01:26:30.119 --> 01:26:31.960 love to. And I had the other group that I 1695 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:36.000 was involved in. They came and interviewed me and myself, 1696 01:26:36.159 --> 01:26:40.039 my wife, the guy I started, Jamie, his name was 1697 01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:42.720 the guy started the support group with and his partner. 1698 01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.760 We decided we didn't trust that group much, but we 1699 01:26:45.800 --> 01:26:49.279 wanted the case sort of document it somehow by a researcher. 1700 01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:52.600 But we made some minor changes. We didn't mention the hair, 1701 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:55.319 but we noted it. We wrote, we wrote a letter 1702 01:26:55.399 --> 01:26:57.720 and four of us signed it that we would make 1703 01:26:57.760 --> 01:26:59.960 some changes. We won't tell them that the whole truth 1704 01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:02.960 to the story. It was just to have something documented 1705 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.680 to say that, yes, it was looked that. When Bill 1706 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:08.399 called me and said he had a you know, it's 1707 01:27:08.399 --> 01:27:12.399 called the Invisible College APEG, a nominally physical evidence group. 1708 01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:15.760 He had some people work who worked for CSIRO at 1709 01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:17.800 the time, and they were at the tail end of 1710 01:27:17.840 --> 01:27:20.319 the careers, and you know, they were interested in working 1711 01:27:20.359 --> 01:27:23.319 on made and abduction stuff. And he said, these people 1712 01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:25.479 are willing to test your sample if you want to 1713 01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:28.319 take the risk. I said, risk, I know exactly where 1714 01:27:28.359 --> 01:27:30.800 that sample came from. Mate yep, come and take it. 1715 01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:34.000 So they came and took the sample, did some tests, 1716 01:27:34.039 --> 01:27:36.439 came back, took a hair sample from my partner, took 1717 01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:39.319 sample from me, got a couple of phone calls back 1718 01:27:39.399 --> 01:27:44.119 saying that they're finding some really unusual DNA and what 1719 01:27:44.279 --> 01:27:47.520 they basically found there was three stages to the testing 1720 01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:51.319 and they tested the root. Lucky for me when I 1721 01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:55.439 when I retrieved these hair samples, one of the samples 1722 01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:58.880 had a root and it was the very thing flimsy, 1723 01:27:58.920 --> 01:28:00.920 and I assumed it was from blonde. I knew it 1724 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:04.399 was from the blonde. The other hair that was shorter. 1725 01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:07.520 To me with the naked eye, it looked thicker, it 1726 01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:12.800 looked darker, definitely thicker and darker, and I thought it 1727 01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:16.119 was from the Asian female. I thought I got a 1728 01:28:16.159 --> 01:28:20.760 sample from each one. But Bill assures me they looked 1729 01:28:20.840 --> 01:28:23.960 under the microscope whatever, and they reckon it could be 1730 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:26.520 one piece with the other. I said, I can't understand 1731 01:28:26.560 --> 01:28:29.479 that because the pitch I have in my head is 1732 01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:34.439 one was transparent, the other one wasn't and it was darker, 1733 01:28:34.479 --> 01:28:37.359 you know, like I still believe that. And anyway, we 1734 01:28:37.439 --> 01:28:40.640 can't agree on everything, I guess, but yeah, what they 1735 01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:43.760 found was in the root of the hair they found 1736 01:28:44.560 --> 01:28:51.399 the rarest a rare basque Gaelic DNA like blonde, Scandinavian, 1737 01:28:51.520 --> 01:28:56.520 tall blue eyes, fair skin light skin lightish hair, whether 1738 01:28:56.560 --> 01:29:00.680 it was red or blonde or white whatever. They came 1739 01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:03.680 across all this stuff. And then when they tested the 1740 01:29:03.680 --> 01:29:06.279 shaft of the hair, which should have yielded the same 1741 01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:13.279 DNA sequence. They found the rarest Chinese mitochondrial DNA, which 1742 01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:16.640 is like, I think there's like four people on the 1743 01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:19.960 planet or something like that that have something similar or 1744 01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:25.000 close to it. Very rare, very rare. And when I 1745 01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:27.079 spoke about this in nineteen ninety three, I had a 1746 01:29:27.119 --> 01:29:29.439 panel of people experts come out sit down at it 1747 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:32.439 across the table. I sat on a chair across from them, 1748 01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:35.800 and they bombarded me with questions and taking notes and 1749 01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:38.199 so on. And I remember saying to I'm clearly saying 1750 01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:42.079 to them, whoever made these beans made them for a reason. 1751 01:29:42.479 --> 01:29:45.520 And they're like, what do you mean? And I'm like, well, 1752 01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:48.640 I think they were made to breed with us. They 1753 01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:52.239 were made to have babies, you know, to create made 1754 01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:54.640 that comment, you know, just to throw it out there, 1755 01:29:54.680 --> 01:29:58.439 but I didn't realize the implications later. I didn't know 1756 01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:02.239 about cloning, cloning. Wasn't even happy. I think Dolly the 1757 01:30:02.279 --> 01:30:06.319 sheep was cloned. What ninety three and then things started. 1758 01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:10.159 The Aelians claimed to claim the baby. Bill Clinton, as president, 1759 01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:13.239 put a five year ban on human cloning, which I 1760 01:30:13.279 --> 01:30:16.720 think expired a long time before the five years, and 1761 01:30:16.760 --> 01:30:20.760 I think there are clones being made anyway, that's another issue. 1762 01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:23.760 So they found two different DNAs in the one hair, 1763 01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:28.439 which obviously can suggest cloning techniques here. And then about 1764 01:30:28.479 --> 01:30:31.640 six months after they released these results, there was an 1765 01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:36.720 article in a scientific journal that was talking about hair 1766 01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:40.560 implants and splicing the hairs and putting them in and 1767 01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:44.800 so on. And then the scientists were also interested in 1768 01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:48.520 my scoop mark he'll so quickly, and they said to me, 1769 01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:51.079 if it ever happens again, and it's red, draw take 1770 01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:54.560 a swab, you know, take a sample, secure it. And 1771 01:30:54.840 --> 01:30:57.479 they said it could revolutionize surgery if it he'll so 1772 01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:01.199 quick without stitches. And about six months after that, liquid 1773 01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:03.920 band aid come out. And when I first saw liquid 1774 01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:07.039 band aid, I thought, maybe that's not going to help 1775 01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:10.560 you heal quicker, but it'll seal the wound. So all 1776 01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:13.399 this stuff was happening just before things came out. Like 1777 01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:16.680 I was talking about this, not knowing where it was going, 1778 01:31:17.079 --> 01:31:21.119 but just mentioning it. So they found, Yeah, they found 1779 01:31:21.119 --> 01:31:24.600 two different DNAs, one blonde scanner look in the other 1780 01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:27.960 one Asian, the rarest of its kind lineage, and in 1781 01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:31.720 the one hair. And then they did a nuclear testing 1782 01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:34.960 for the hair and they found a c c R 1783 01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:38.439 five gene dilution, which if you don't have that gene, 1784 01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:42.359 you're not susceptible to sexually transmitted diseases or you know, 1785 01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:48.079 chicken pox, measles, HIV. And it wasn't just one deletion, 1786 01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:52.079 there was two deletionions, so it made it more interesting. 1787 01:31:52.720 --> 01:31:55.039 So yeah, it caught the attention of some of the 1788 01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:58.079 scientific community, not everyone, because a lot of people, you know, 1789 01:31:58.399 --> 01:32:01.359 unless it's perief, you dud. And you know what, I 1790 01:32:01.399 --> 01:32:04.479 wish there were enough people out there to pre review it, 1791 01:32:04.920 --> 01:32:07.439 to write it up in a journal somewhere, But it 1792 01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:10.720 did appear in the International UFA Reporter on the front 1793 01:32:10.720 --> 01:32:15.239 page with the case and the DNA testing report, and 1794 01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:17.920 it was one of their best sellers for that in 1795 01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:20.960 the history. I didn't need any of those results to 1796 01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:26.079 prove to me what happened, but it actually strengthened my case. 1797 01:32:26.319 --> 01:32:29.680 It gave me something to ground it in. I had 1798 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:32.760 the courage to go and speak out before the testing happened. 1799 01:32:33.319 --> 01:32:36.479 It seemed that the testing supported my version of events 1800 01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:39.319 that there must have been a noughty looking female and 1801 01:32:39.319 --> 01:32:42.199 an Asian female in my room. Otherwise, how would I 1802 01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:44.880 obtain those hess that the samples, like, where can I 1803 01:32:44.920 --> 01:32:47.279 get it from? You can't go out of Sydney and 1804 01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:50.800 pluck someone's hair and just expect to get really, you know, 1805 01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:54.680 extreme DNA. I didn't need any of that to prove 1806 01:32:54.720 --> 01:32:56.119 it to me, but it was good to prove it 1807 01:32:56.119 --> 01:33:00.159 to everybody else. Since a nineteen ninety two experience, I've 1808 01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:02.399 had a number of others. I had one in ninety 1809 01:33:02.399 --> 01:33:05.159 six where I was taken floated through my mirror in 1810 01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:08.199 my bedroom. My bedroom's two rooms. One has my bed 1811 01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:10.239 in it and the other one has a built in 1812 01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:13.640 wardrobe and on sweet with a bath and so on. 1813 01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:17.159 I remember my partner was lying next to me, and 1814 01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:19.399 I was trying so hard to touch her and I 1815 01:33:19.439 --> 01:33:21.079 couldn't move, and I was trying to move my little 1816 01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:23.960 pinky finger just to touch her. And I could touch 1817 01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:27.159 her shirt, but I couldn't, like Cooke, you know, get 1818 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:31.399 pushed against her and wake her up. And I remember floating. 1819 01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:34.479 And as I was floating up off the bed, like 1820 01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:36.720 I could feel myself like there was an air cushion 1821 01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:39.279 under me and it was lifting me. As I felt 1822 01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:44.479 that I'm looking at the you know, looking ahead, and 1823 01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:46.960 I see out of my mirror, it's like a four 1824 01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:52.600 door glass mirrored wardrobe, floors, ceiling, heavy doors, very heavy doors. 1825 01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:56.800 And as I like I'm looking, I'm closing my eyes, 1826 01:33:56.840 --> 01:34:00.880 squinting and trying to see. I see figures short hooded 1827 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.399 gorilla looking guys. I see a whole bunch of them 1828 01:34:03.439 --> 01:34:06.720 coming through the mirror. And as they came through the 1829 01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:09.319 mirror and started to get closer towards me, I realized 1830 01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:11.399 it wasn't a group of them, it was only three, 1831 01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:14.960 but there was another three reflections in the mirror, so 1832 01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.279 I thought it was a group. As they got closer 1833 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:19.479 to me, one stopped at the foot of the bed 1834 01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:22.600 and one was on either side. So one was on 1835 01:34:22.720 --> 01:34:24.920 my wife's side of the bed and I was worried 1836 01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:27.239 that they're going to do something to her. And one 1837 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:29.600 was on my side between the window and the bed, 1838 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:33.399 standing to my right. And I'm already feeling this air 1839 01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:36.520 pushing and thing like lifting me up. And then I 1840 01:34:36.600 --> 01:34:40.079 start moving forward my feet first towards the other room, 1841 01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:43.319 and there's an archway, so I'm going towards the archway 1842 01:34:43.359 --> 01:34:45.880 through the room, and I'm heading to the mirror, and 1843 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:47.840 I'm looking at this mirror and I can see the 1844 01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:50.920 mirror shimmering as if it was as if it was 1845 01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:52.880 like made of water and you touched it and it 1846 01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:56.239 made it move. I see the first being go through 1847 01:34:56.840 --> 01:35:00.640 and I see like an haaze around him, like his body, 1848 01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:02.920 it was like static around his body. And then he 1849 01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:04.960 goes through, and as he goes through, I see his 1850 01:35:05.079 --> 01:35:08.720 back fade away, and then my feet right behind him. 1851 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.479 My feet go in and as my feet went in 1852 01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:15.000 up to say, just below my knees, halfs went in 1853 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:17.800 my shin just under my knees. I felt like I 1854 01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:22.199 had just jumped in jelly, in a hot jelly, as 1855 01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:24.439 if you had a current running through this jelly, and 1856 01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:26.439 when you went through it, you got buzzed a bit. 1857 01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:28.800 It wasn't a bad feeling, It's just, you know, you 1858 01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:34.039 felt a buzzing feeling. And I went right through, and 1859 01:35:34.119 --> 01:35:36.720 as my body was going through, I was looking. And 1860 01:35:36.760 --> 01:35:39.439 then as I got up to my chest, I looked 1861 01:35:39.479 --> 01:35:42.439 at my face the reflection on my face, and I 1862 01:35:42.520 --> 01:35:45.920 was in total, total, absolute, total shock. Like I could 1863 01:35:45.920 --> 01:35:47.640 see the look on my face. I was like, he's 1864 01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:51.439 going on, you know, crazy, I've gone through to the 1865 01:35:51.479 --> 01:35:55.199 other side. And I don't have a recollection of what happened, 1866 01:35:55.199 --> 01:35:57.640 where I was taken, how long I was taken. All 1867 01:35:57.720 --> 01:36:00.079 I know is I was back in my bed. As 1868 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:01.680 soon as I was back in my bed, I wake 1869 01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:04.399 up my wife and I was like, did you say 1870 01:36:04.439 --> 01:36:06.800 any of that? Did you hear any of that? She's like, NA, 1871 01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:08.920 what happened? I said, Oh my god, I try to 1872 01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:10.520 wake you up. I couldn't wake you up. You know, 1873 01:36:10.640 --> 01:36:12.840 Da da da. That was nine in ninety six. 1874 01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:23.680 Do you have an interest in the paranormal, then you'll 1875 01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:27.560 love the unexnetwork dot com. The AX is your streaming 1876 01:36:27.600 --> 01:36:33.880 audio and video for everything supernatural, strange and mysterious like UFOs, Bigfoot, 1877 01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:37.840 Ghost and so much more from host like Clyde Lewis, 1878 01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:43.039 Whitley Streeber, Michah Hanks, and Christina Gomaz. Visit the unexnetwork 1879 01:36:43.079 --> 01:36:45.399 dot com show page for a complete list of all 1880 01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:48.840 the paranormal programs you'll find on the AX. Be sure 1881 01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:52.479 to follow us on Twitter for updates at ku NXDB, 1882 01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:57.239 follow our Facebook group unex Network, Pie the podcast on her, Spotify, 1883 01:36:57.399 --> 01:36:59.880 iHeart Audible and Apple podcast. 1884 01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:00.960 It's Tide. 1885 01:37:01.359 --> 01:37:03.560 It is the. 1886 01:37:03.239 --> 01:37:05.319 Axe axe Ax. 1887 01:37:11.920 --> 01:37:16.479 There's been other experiences, and there was one that I've 1888 01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:20.880 been speaking about lately that broke me in pieces I 1889 01:37:20.920 --> 01:37:23.840 hadn't experienced. Two thousand and eight, I was in a 1890 01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:26.640 craft and it was a weird looking craft that was 1891 01:37:26.680 --> 01:37:29.520 like a building almost. It was that big. I was 1892 01:37:29.560 --> 01:37:32.520 on this table and I could notice that the walls 1893 01:37:32.560 --> 01:37:35.880 and the ceilings and the floors there was no edges 1894 01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:39.840 to them, there was no corners. It was all blended 1895 01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:43.000 into each other. And I couldn't see any joints, any seams, 1896 01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:46.560 any corners. The table I was on felt like it 1897 01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:50.199 was floating, but I don't think it was. I think 1898 01:37:50.760 --> 01:37:54.159 it was connected blended into the floor, and that because 1899 01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:57.000 I could see another table on the other side, and 1900 01:37:57.800 --> 01:37:59.600 I couldn't see it perfectly because there were things in 1901 01:37:59.640 --> 01:38:02.079 the eight, but I could tell at points where it 1902 01:38:02.119 --> 01:38:04.800 was like blended into the ground, so it came out 1903 01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:07.680 of the floor. I'm lying there and I can see 1904 01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:10.880 to my left a window, or a couple of windows, 1905 01:38:10.880 --> 01:38:13.680 probably two or three windows, one opposite my head, and 1906 01:38:13.680 --> 01:38:16.920 then the other two, say towards my feet, but further down, 1907 01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.640 and then a third one which I could partially see, 1908 01:38:20.039 --> 01:38:25.520 and they were long sort of rectangle windows, black tint, 1909 01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:29.720 heavy black tint, and it could have been It looked 1910 01:38:29.720 --> 01:38:31.399 to me like it was a building because the walls 1911 01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:35.279 were the brightest white, eyes white, cleanest white I've ever 1912 01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:37.720 seen on a building. It looked to me like could 1913 01:38:37.760 --> 01:38:39.640 have been a craft, but it looked like a building. 1914 01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:42.760 As we're moving through the sky before I saw this 1915 01:38:42.840 --> 01:38:46.600 other building where we're moving, and I could see lights 1916 01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:49.960 moving past us quickly. And I'm not I'm not saying 1917 01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:53.199 their planets or anything were up there. I don't know. 1918 01:38:53.239 --> 01:38:55.039 It could have been other objects, but there was a 1919 01:38:55.079 --> 01:38:57.920 lot of them and I could see them going past us. Now, 1920 01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:01.119 whether they were moving in the opposite direction, I don't know. 1921 01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:04.199 But I could see a lot of lights just flashing by, 1922 01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:06.399 were going by, and I could see something going our way, 1923 01:39:06.399 --> 01:39:09.239 heading towards our way as well. We got closer to 1924 01:39:09.279 --> 01:39:12.840 this building that I described with the windows, and we 1925 01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:15.880 sort of banked right up against it, against the window, 1926 01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:18.560 so it was window to window. And the next thing 1927 01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:22.680 I remember, I see myself coming through the roof of 1928 01:39:22.720 --> 01:39:27.239 a building like I could physically. I could see and 1929 01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:30.880 feel that my jaw, my nose went through the ceiling 1930 01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:34.479 first then my eyes my ears, and I felt it. 1931 01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:37.359 And as I looked through and my eyes went through 1932 01:39:37.399 --> 01:39:40.560 and I could see instantly I saw a woman in 1933 01:39:40.600 --> 01:39:43.720 her bed. She should have been in her forties, South 1934 01:39:43.760 --> 01:39:48.000 American or Italian looking. She had black hair just passed 1935 01:39:48.279 --> 01:39:51.560 her shoulders, one too long and not short, laying in 1936 01:39:51.560 --> 01:39:56.680 a bed and looking up directly straight at me, petrified. 1937 01:39:57.079 --> 01:40:00.680 The look on her face was heartbreaking. And every time 1938 01:40:00.720 --> 01:40:02.439 I talk about this, I get upset, and I'm going 1939 01:40:02.479 --> 01:40:05.640 to try not to, but I can't guarantee it. It's 1940 01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:07.960 just it's just an emotional reaction that I have. I 1941 01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:10.960 don't know why, and I've talked about it lately a 1942 01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:13.800 couple of times, and I don't know why. But anyway, 1943 01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:16.800 if it happens, it happens. As I'm coming down, floating 1944 01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:20.159 down towards her, I could see she was panicking more 1945 01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:22.079 and more. The look on her face was more. She 1946 01:40:22.159 --> 01:40:25.319 was getting more and more scared and petrified and panicking, 1947 01:40:25.399 --> 01:40:27.119 you know. But she couldn't move. I could tell she 1948 01:40:27.439 --> 01:40:31.840 couldn't move. And as I got low and closer to her, 1949 01:40:32.319 --> 01:40:35.239 I was right above her bed, and I got to 1950 01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:39.159 a point where I was about six inches from her face, 1951 01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:41.920 and I remember looking at her her face and I 1952 01:40:41.960 --> 01:40:45.600 saw tears run down both sides of the corner of 1953 01:40:45.600 --> 01:40:48.840 her eyes run down and like I mean running, not 1954 01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.279 just that a tear, It was just tears running. She 1955 01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:55.199 was crying and it broke my heart. I remember looking 1956 01:40:55.239 --> 01:40:57.880 at her, inches away from her face and saying to her, 1957 01:40:58.199 --> 01:41:01.960 I am so so so sorry, and I said so 1958 01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:08.960 three times, I am so so so sorry, and bag 1959 01:41:09.119 --> 01:41:13.479 I'm back, I'm back in my bed, I'm okay. And nothing. 1960 01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:15.399 You know, I don't have a memory of anything checked 1961 01:41:15.439 --> 01:41:18.600 sexual happening. All I know is that she was in tears, 1962 01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:23.960 and I felt heartbroken for her, and it really upset me. 1963 01:41:24.640 --> 01:41:27.600 I've had a number of alien experiences, some of them 1964 01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:30.039 are being sectually. I don't care. I can deal with it. 1965 01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:35.119 But this thing, because it was another human and it 1966 01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:38.199 wasn't like she was interacting because she wanted to. It 1967 01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:40.560 wasn't like, you know, we met, we had a date 1968 01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:43.960 and we were doing this. It was just bought onto 1969 01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:48.560 her without her consent, and it really, really to this 1970 01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:52.039 day it breaks me. Now years later, I was reading 1971 01:41:52.079 --> 01:41:54.319 a book. Look, I thought it was Richard Dollar, but 1972 01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:56.560 it could have been David Jacobs, and I am going 1973 01:41:56.640 --> 01:41:58.159 to look and I'm going to confirm it, and I'm 1974 01:41:58.159 --> 01:41:59.880 going to put it out there for people to see it. 1975 01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:03.640 I was reading this book and I remember thinking, oh, 1976 01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:06.039 I don't know. It might have been a threat by 1977 01:42:06.119 --> 01:42:08.279 David Jacobs. And I'm reading and thinking, oh, I don't know, 1978 01:42:08.319 --> 01:42:11.079 a bit flimsy whatever. And then I come to this 1979 01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:14.079 chapter and it had this woman relay in a story 1980 01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:17.079 and it was the story I just told you, a 1981 01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:21.079 man coming through the ceiling, coming down towards her. She's petrified. 1982 01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:24.279 The man hovers above her, inches above her face, and 1983 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:27.520 she's crying. And then she says, the man mouthed to me, 1984 01:42:28.039 --> 01:42:31.479 didn't speak, but mouthed it and said I am so 1985 01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:36.600 so sorry. And that broke me. That just and you 1986 01:42:36.680 --> 01:42:39.079 know what, it could have been some other person that 1987 01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:41.760 happened to, because I'm sure they don't just do it 1988 01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:45.079 to one person and stop. That's it. One way. They 1989 01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:47.319 do it once and never do it again. Could have 1990 01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:50.479 been another person that happened to and they're describing their experience. 1991 01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:53.159 But for some reason, I just felt the connection and 1992 01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:55.239 I thought, oh my god, is this the same person? 1993 01:42:56.119 --> 01:43:00.279 And that here in that side of it really got me. Yeah, 1994 01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:03.720 and it still does. And yeah, so a lot of 1995 01:43:03.720 --> 01:43:05.800 people have said to me, oh, you should go and 1996 01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:07.880 find her, see if you can track it out. No, 1997 01:43:08.039 --> 01:43:10.359 I don't want to do that. But if that person 1998 01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:13.520 was traumatized by that anyway, and do I want to 1999 01:43:13.520 --> 01:43:16.800 bring all that back? And look, people are aware of 2000 01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:20.479 my case. So if the researchers who wrote the book, 2001 01:43:20.600 --> 01:43:23.600 or if the lady hears my story and she hears 2002 01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:26.119 me talk about this and she wants to contact me, fine, 2003 01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:28.880 but I'm not going to chase down someone and you know, 2004 01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:32.000 bring that onto them. You know, I've had other experiences 2005 01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:35.239 that you could call high strangeness. We've had dost in 2006 01:43:35.359 --> 01:43:37.520 our house since the first day we moved in here. 2007 01:43:38.119 --> 01:43:41.439 We bought a house in another suburb and I bought 2008 01:43:41.439 --> 01:43:44.119 it with my brothers, and one day, a couple of 2009 01:43:44.159 --> 01:43:46.560 weeks after we put the deposit, I paid the deposit 2010 01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:49.439 on the house. I'm driving through the street where I 2011 01:43:49.479 --> 01:43:52.560 am now, where I'm living now, and I went into 2012 01:43:52.600 --> 01:43:54.760 a driveway to chuck a utune in a little truck. 2013 01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:58.439 I was driving and I saw a sign. You couldn't 2014 01:43:58.439 --> 01:44:00.840 see the house. It was covered in brush, just bush 2015 01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:02.600 all out the front, you could not see the house. 2016 01:44:03.239 --> 01:44:05.079 And I saw it for sale sign and I saw 2017 01:44:05.119 --> 01:44:07.479 this guy walking out the driveway and I said to him, 2018 01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:09.600 is a house still for sale? And he said, nah, mate, 2019 01:44:09.640 --> 01:44:11.359 I'm going now to the roots. They take it off 2020 01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:13.760 the market. We don't want to sell anymore. I said, look, 2021 01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:16.079 give me a chance. I'll have a look now quickly, 2022 01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:17.920 if you don't mind, and if I like it, I'll 2023 01:44:17.920 --> 01:44:20.760 bring my fiance and we'll have a look. And this 2024 01:44:20.840 --> 01:44:23.239 is in nineteen eighty eight. He was like, yeah, sure, 2025 01:44:23.239 --> 01:44:25.279 all right, come in had a look. You know. I 2026 01:44:25.279 --> 01:44:27.479 fell in love with the place that evening. I bought 2027 01:44:27.520 --> 01:44:30.720 her and her best friend. And as soon as we've 2028 01:44:30.760 --> 01:44:32.520 pulled up out the front, you could not even see 2029 01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:35.479 the house. She said to me, Peter, this is where 2030 01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:37.399 I want to live. It just drew us to it. 2031 01:44:37.399 --> 01:44:39.800 It just called us, basically. So I said to my 2032 01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:42.119 brother's look, keep the deposit on the other house. I'm 2033 01:44:42.159 --> 01:44:44.920 just going to buy my own house. They weren't happy 2034 01:44:44.920 --> 01:44:47.680 about it, but you know, anyway, we ended up buying 2035 01:44:47.760 --> 01:44:51.079 this house. And the first night that we spent here, 2036 01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:55.319 we actually rented the place. And then the first night 2037 01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:58.279 we spent here before we got married, wanted to renovate 2038 01:44:58.319 --> 01:45:00.560 and do some painting and so on. We were sitting 2039 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:02.880 in the in the room i'm sitting in now actually, 2040 01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:05.119 but it was all different. It was archway in another 2041 01:45:05.199 --> 01:45:07.920 room and an archway into the kitchen. It's all open 2042 01:45:07.960 --> 01:45:10.880 planned now. So we're sitting here and this is the 2043 01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:13.920 first night we ever stayed at this house. We here 2044 01:45:14.920 --> 01:45:18.079 like a soldier, like it was only one one person, 2045 01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:21.159 but it sounded like we're wearing heavy birds and just 2046 01:45:21.199 --> 01:45:23.079 didn't give a shit if you were in the house 2047 01:45:23.079 --> 01:45:26.840 and heard them all night. It was like m dumb, dumb, 2048 01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:30.359 heavy footsteps walking and heading towards us. And when it 2049 01:45:30.359 --> 01:45:33.439 got to the archway and it could see us basically, 2050 01:45:33.479 --> 01:45:36.159 or you know, it knew we were there, it stopped. 2051 01:45:36.199 --> 01:45:38.560 You couldn't hear footsteps anymore. And we looked at each 2052 01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:40.279 other and she was like, oh my god, whatever it is, 2053 01:45:40.319 --> 01:45:43.640 it's watching us. It knows we're here. So we thought 2054 01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:46.079 at first when we heard the footsteps, we thought it was, 2055 01:45:46.279 --> 01:45:48.479 you know, a squatter broke in while the house the 2056 01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:51.159 house was empty. I think for two weeks we thought 2057 01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:53.880 someone broke in, you know, they know how to get in. 2058 01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:56.680 Although everything was deadlocked and so on, but there was 2059 01:45:56.720 --> 01:45:58.520 no one in the house at all. So when we 2060 01:45:58.560 --> 01:46:02.439 moved in, we were here for probably two weeks. She 2061 01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:04.279 was cooking something and she asked me to go out 2062 01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:06.960 to the shop and get some ingredients. As I walked 2063 01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:10.800 out the door, two minutes later, she heard footsteps walking 2064 01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:12.840 through the house and she's like, oh, Peter must have 2065 01:46:12.840 --> 01:46:14.880 forgot he's wallet or something. He's come back to get it. 2066 01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:18.840 And as she turns around to see if it's me 2067 01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:22.640 or you know, to see me, she said, she sees 2068 01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:25.800 a guy walk across the hallway, across the archway from her. 2069 01:46:26.439 --> 01:46:28.479 So this guy's walking in the lounge room. There's a 2070 01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:30.800 dining room, and there's in a kitchen, and there's two 2071 01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:35.239 archways between her and this being entity, ghost whatever. She 2072 01:46:35.399 --> 01:46:37.720 looks and she sees a man walk across, and she 2073 01:46:37.880 --> 01:46:40.680 described him. She said he looked like Abraham Lincoln in 2074 01:46:40.720 --> 01:46:44.039 that he had the top hat, he had thick hair, 2075 01:46:44.119 --> 01:46:47.439 he had a beard, he was wearing black, like an undertaker, 2076 01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:50.600 and his coat was had the tail, the long tails 2077 01:46:50.640 --> 01:46:53.399 on the coat. And it walked past and sort of 2078 01:46:53.479 --> 01:46:56.760 looked towards her and kept walking towards a mirrored wall. 2079 01:46:57.239 --> 01:47:00.680 I got home, probably twenty minutes later. I got home 2080 01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:02.439 and I walked in the door, and she was stuck. 2081 01:47:02.600 --> 01:47:04.960 She had her back to the kitchen bench, ch haded, 2082 01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:09.920 her hands glued glued in the kitchen on the kitchen bench. 2083 01:47:09.960 --> 01:47:12.800 She was shaking like a leaf as soon as I 2084 01:47:12.840 --> 01:47:14.800 opened the door, and she knew it was me. She's like, Peter, 2085 01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:17.000 there's a man in the house. And you know, my 2086 01:47:17.159 --> 01:47:20.560 reaction would have been, what man in my house? So 2087 01:47:20.640 --> 01:47:23.319 I wanted to just drag this guy out on the 2088 01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:25.600 street and give him a couple and sort of send 2089 01:47:25.680 --> 01:47:28.439 him on his way. But I searched the whole house 2090 01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:31.720 and there was no one there. I looked under tables, 2091 01:47:31.760 --> 01:47:34.680 in drawers, behind curtains. I did it all, you know, 2092 01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:37.920 just to give her a piece of mind. And funny 2093 01:47:37.960 --> 01:47:40.359 thing though that room there was a mirrrored wall in 2094 01:47:40.359 --> 01:47:43.119 the lounge room and the other wall behind it was 2095 01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:45.920 to a spare room. And when we had our child, 2096 01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:50.680 our first child, Stephen, he would be he had troubled 2097 01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:53.279 sleeping and we had to take him to a place 2098 01:47:53.279 --> 01:47:54.840 for a couple of nights. She went with him, and 2099 01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:57.800 they train knew how to get him to sleep. Properly. 2100 01:47:58.159 --> 01:48:02.560 When he'd be in our room, I could it sleep 2101 01:48:02.600 --> 01:48:04.399 And I was used to start get up for work 2102 01:48:04.439 --> 01:48:06.960 at about five five point thirty, so I'd go and 2103 01:48:07.039 --> 01:48:10.199 sleep in that spare room, and every time, without fail, 2104 01:48:10.279 --> 01:48:13.640 every time I slept there, I'd get scratches or like 2105 01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:18.439 on my legs, on my arms, and couldn't figure out why. 2106 01:48:18.520 --> 01:48:21.279 So whenever I got these scratches, my wife and I 2107 01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:24.319 would walk into that room and dress on that mattress 2108 01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:28.560 like around whether scratches happened. We just to see if 2109 01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:32.359 there's a pin, a needle, something sharp sticking out, and 2110 01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:35.720 you know, when I'm lying there scratching me nothing, we 2111 01:48:35.720 --> 01:48:39.640 couldn't We couldn't find anything. But it always only happened 2112 01:48:39.640 --> 01:48:43.399 in that room. Now, later on we renovated. It's an 2113 01:48:43.399 --> 01:48:48.039 open plan thing now. But twenty twenty, it was first 2114 01:48:48.079 --> 01:48:51.119 of the first twenty twenty, so New Year's Day, New 2115 01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:54.520 Year's Eve, I did a event of fireworks out on 2116 01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:57.560 the harbor and so on, and come home and I 2117 01:48:57.600 --> 01:48:59.760 was sitting here in and I was watching TV for 2118 01:48:59.760 --> 01:49:02.359 all I hyped up, you know, New Year's Eve. So 2119 01:49:02.399 --> 01:49:04.439 it was about four point fifty five in the morning, 2120 01:49:04.520 --> 01:49:07.199 five to five in the morning, and as I'm sitting here, 2121 01:49:07.199 --> 01:49:10.000 I felt I'm sitting in the same spot now, like 2122 01:49:10.079 --> 01:49:13.800 I'm in the exact same spot now, and I felt 2123 01:49:13.800 --> 01:49:18.319 something like acid burn, like it was burning, a really 2124 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:21.159 acidy burn on my legs. I had a look and 2125 01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:24.760 I could see scratches, and I could actually one of 2126 01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:27.359 the scratches. I got a UFO tatoo around my ankle 2127 01:49:27.399 --> 01:49:30.880 on the inside of my right leg, and the scratch 2128 01:49:30.920 --> 01:49:34.520 went straight through halfway through that ufo. It's like a 2129 01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:38.239 cardoony UFO went straight through it. And as I was 2130 01:49:38.279 --> 01:49:41.239 watching it, I could see this scar then this scratch 2131 01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:44.640 moving like going up my leg very slowly, but it 2132 01:49:44.680 --> 01:49:47.399 was moving. So I got my my phone and videoed it, 2133 01:49:47.960 --> 01:49:50.520 and in the video you probably see it moved two 2134 01:49:50.600 --> 01:49:52.840 mill and it stops. I think once it realized I 2135 01:49:52.920 --> 01:49:54.880 was filming or something, it just didn't want to give 2136 01:49:54.880 --> 01:49:57.800 me the evidence. But there was this massive scratch on 2137 01:49:57.840 --> 01:50:02.119 my leg and then up on the inside of my knee. 2138 01:50:02.600 --> 01:50:05.039 I felt burning there and when I looked, there were 2139 01:50:05.079 --> 01:50:09.680 three claw marks scratched down my leg and then on 2140 01:50:09.760 --> 01:50:12.079 the back of my leg. I've got an I've got 2141 01:50:12.119 --> 01:50:16.279 a DNA tatoo. And it's like old. Right on the 2142 01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:19.279 back of my calf, I've got like an old, tattered DNA, 2143 01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:22.840 and then on the sides of it there's strands of 2144 01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:25.560 DNA coming out that look more modern and more clean. 2145 01:50:26.039 --> 01:50:28.520 And then I've got the head of a creature, an 2146 01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:32.199 alien with big eyes. It's like it's DNA new and old, 2147 01:50:32.239 --> 01:50:35.560 forming a new being, you know, a new civilization. My 2148 01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:38.079 scratches went all the way through that, all the way 2149 01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:42.399 up from the my keelees top of my heel, all 2150 01:50:42.439 --> 01:50:45.399 the way to under my knee at the back on 2151 01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:49.319 my calf. Now, that year, my dad passed away, and 2152 01:50:49.359 --> 01:50:52.800 he passed away on my son's birthday, about four point 2153 01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:58.199 thirty in the morning on that same day, twenty first September, 2154 01:50:58.239 --> 01:51:00.399 he passed away. And you know, I did to know 2155 01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:04.640 if that the first of the first twenty twenty having 2156 01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:09.600 this thing happened. So anyway, moving on last year, twenty 2157 01:51:09.640 --> 01:51:13.000 twenty four, my partner is here. This isn't new We 2158 01:51:13.039 --> 01:51:15.840 went out. I didn't work last year for New Years. 2159 01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:17.720 For the first time in so many years, I didn't 2160 01:51:17.720 --> 01:51:20.199 do New Year's Eve. We went out, came back home, 2161 01:51:20.760 --> 01:51:25.000 and we're sitting here and I've just gone, oh, you know, wow, 2162 01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:28.279 it's Bernie. I've got Bernie. And she's sitting right next 2163 01:51:28.279 --> 01:51:30.479 to me, and I put my leg out in front 2164 01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:32.720 of her to check the sea and she's like, oh 2165 01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:35.479 my god, babe, you got scratches appearing. As I'm looking 2166 01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:38.239 at now, I can see scratches appearing on you. And 2167 01:51:38.279 --> 01:51:41.319 you know what. In twenty twenty, I had been working, 2168 01:51:41.359 --> 01:51:43.359 so I was standing up a bit and I thought, 2169 01:51:43.479 --> 01:51:46.960 could it be my legs got a bit inflamed, you know, fluid, 2170 01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:51.239 But it's never happened to me before. Anyway. Four years later, 2171 01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:54.600 on the same day, the first of the first just 2172 01:51:54.920 --> 01:51:58.439 a couple of hours apart, she's looking at it and 2173 01:51:58.439 --> 01:52:00.720 I think she filmed it on her phone, but she 2174 01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:04.760 was watching these scratches appear on my leg. Now, since then, 2175 01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:07.960 I've had scratches on my back. I've had a bite mark, 2176 01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:10.720 which I've got a photo of. It's a bite mark 2177 01:52:10.840 --> 01:52:13.439 on my left should at the back on my back 2178 01:52:13.479 --> 01:52:16.600 of my shoulder. That sort of stuff concerns me a 2179 01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:20.000 little bit more than the alien stuff. I don't know, 2180 01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:22.800 maybe I don't understand it, and anything we don't understand. 2181 01:52:22.840 --> 01:52:25.520 With fear, I've had a lot of people say to me, Oh, look, 2182 01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:28.479 just they're trying to give your heads up on things. 2183 01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:30.720 Just ask them to do it in another way. When 2184 01:52:30.760 --> 01:52:34.840 it happened this year on the same day, I was 2185 01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:37.399 really concerned because my Mum's in a nursing home and 2186 01:52:37.439 --> 01:52:40.039 I'm thinking, oh, no, twenty twenty four is it going 2187 01:52:40.079 --> 01:52:42.399 to be? Is this telling me something's going to happen 2188 01:52:42.399 --> 01:52:46.800 to my mum. So she's still around, thank god, not 2189 01:52:46.840 --> 01:52:49.479 in a good healthy position. You know, she's not doing 2190 01:52:49.520 --> 01:52:53.239 really well. Her conditions pretty pretty bad. She's like a 2191 01:52:53.319 --> 01:52:56.960 log in a little bed that they wheel around. It's 2192 01:52:56.960 --> 01:52:58.960 the only way she gets around. It breaks my heart. 2193 01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:01.880 It's coming to what I'm now where my ex and 2194 01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:05.239 I I have to sell the house and give her 2195 01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:08.520 her fifty percent share. It's a break in my heart 2196 01:53:08.720 --> 01:53:11.920 because I bought this house and paid it off, finished 2197 01:53:11.920 --> 01:53:14.840 paying her off in twenty fourteen, and I thought we'd 2198 01:53:14.840 --> 01:53:16.840 have this house forever. I wanted to give it to 2199 01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:19.560 my kids eventually. But this is the house where I 2200 01:53:19.560 --> 01:53:21.359 had my like my parents' house where I had my 2201 01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:24.159 nineteen eighty eight experience is still there. My brother lives there. 2202 01:53:24.520 --> 01:53:27.399 This one I'm going to end up there's no way 2203 01:53:27.439 --> 01:53:29.359 I can get the money to pay her off, so 2204 01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:31.640 I'm going to have to sell it. It has break in 2205 01:53:31.680 --> 01:53:34.319 my heart that I have to lose the room where 2206 01:53:34.479 --> 01:53:37.640 my ninety two ninety six experience happened. You know, I'm 2207 01:53:37.680 --> 01:53:40.199 going to do my best to try and keep it. 2208 01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:44.199 I was never in the UFO filled for money never. 2209 01:53:44.359 --> 01:53:46.640 If anything, it cost me money out of my pocket, 2210 01:53:47.119 --> 01:53:50.039 and now I'm in a situation where financially I'm not 2211 01:53:50.079 --> 01:53:52.000 in a position to even get a loan to pay 2212 01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:54.439 her off. I've had a lot of injuries and they've 2213 01:53:54.479 --> 01:53:57.359 caught up with me, so I can't do that much work. 2214 01:53:57.960 --> 01:54:01.399 I remember Professor Mack and Hopkins both saying to me, 2215 01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:04.760 it's so admirable for you to start a support group 2216 01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:07.640 to help other people when you're going through the same 2217 01:54:07.760 --> 01:54:11.479 thing and you've had no one help you, and here 2218 01:54:11.520 --> 01:54:14.600 you are setting up a support system to help others. 2219 01:54:15.239 --> 01:54:17.960 And Professor Max said to me another comment he made 2220 01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:19.960 and I'll quote him on this one, May you rest 2221 01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:22.560 in peace. Harvard were trying to sanction him and I 2222 01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:24.399 will giving him a hard time, you know, trying to 2223 01:54:24.880 --> 01:54:28.000 sack him and shut him down and shut him up. 2224 01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:32.640 I remember they had many many judging panels and someone 2225 01:54:32.680 --> 01:54:34.800 to get rid of him. But I remember him saying 2226 01:54:34.840 --> 01:54:36.920 to me, Look, Peter, I'm a tenured professor. I can 2227 01:54:36.920 --> 01:54:39.319 study wherever I like because they cannot say a thing 2228 01:54:39.399 --> 01:54:41.920 to me, he said, But what concerns me? He goes, 2229 01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:44.800 I'm not worried about me. I'm sixty six. I think 2230 01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:46.600 he was sixty six at the time. Because I'm sixty 2231 01:54:46.600 --> 01:54:49.119 six years old, I'm at the tail end of my career. 2232 01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:51.199 I don't care because I worry about you. I worry 2233 01:54:51.239 --> 01:54:54.439 about you so much because you're young, You're coming up 2234 01:54:54.479 --> 01:54:57.239 through this now, and you've got a big target on you. 2235 01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:01.359 And he goes, but if anybody can do Peter Kury 2236 01:55:01.399 --> 01:55:04.000 can do this. I've got confidence in you and that 2237 01:55:04.319 --> 01:55:08.000 just like having Professor Mack's support, I've got Bill Chalker. 2238 01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:10.560 He supports me to the hill. I've met some really 2239 01:55:11.039 --> 01:55:15.239 high profile people in this field that have been so caring, 2240 01:55:15.399 --> 01:55:19.239 loving and giving to me that there's nothing else I 2241 01:55:19.319 --> 01:55:22.159 get out of it. It's the respect and support I've 2242 01:55:22.159 --> 01:55:25.319 got from all these good people who have had no 2243 01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:29.560 reason to, you know, be my friends, or they're just researchers. 2244 01:55:29.600 --> 01:55:32.319 They do a case and they move on, but Professor 2245 01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:35.520 Mack would come over and spend all his free time 2246 01:55:35.560 --> 01:55:38.760 and his partner Dominic at the time, with us. We travel, 2247 01:55:38.840 --> 01:55:41.600 we go places. You know, we loved each other's company. 2248 01:55:41.960 --> 01:55:45.239 Bud Hopkins, he attended a conference and he went and 2249 01:55:45.279 --> 01:55:47.600 sat at my desk and although they wanted to move 2250 01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:49.439 him because he was doing autographs in that and they 2251 01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:52.760 didn't want my group advertising to be shown all over 2252 01:55:52.800 --> 01:55:55.119 the media, and he said, no, I feel comfortable he's 2253 01:55:55.119 --> 01:55:58.680 sitting with. Peter came down to my house. I've had 2254 01:55:59.079 --> 01:56:03.520 multiple international speakers. I had Stephen Bassett from Disclosure. He 2255 01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:07.000 stayed at MAUS for three days and he lectured in 2256 01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:10.399 my lounge room to fifty people about the Disclosure project. 2257 01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:12.439 And you know he made comments back then. I mean, 2258 01:56:12.439 --> 01:56:14.960 I love the guy, but he made comments then that 2259 01:56:15.119 --> 01:56:18.319 in twelve months where this is in early two thousands, 2260 01:56:18.359 --> 01:56:21.800 just after the Twin Tower attacks, because I know he 2261 01:56:21.880 --> 01:56:25.039 was freaking out. He had his car parked outside his 2262 01:56:25.079 --> 01:56:28.159 friend's house and after ninety eleven, anybody who left the 2263 01:56:28.199 --> 01:56:30.720 car more than three days in one area at one spot, 2264 01:56:31.279 --> 01:56:33.520 the government would just tow it. So he was trying 2265 01:56:33.560 --> 01:56:36.319 to ring his strength to organize a key, to get 2266 01:56:36.319 --> 01:56:37.960 the key to his friends, to his frength to move 2267 01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:40.399 his car so that doesn't get it total impounded and 2268 01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:42.600 so on. So yeah, he's given a talk and he said, 2269 01:56:42.680 --> 01:56:45.279 within twelve months, disclosure is going to happen. We're going 2270 01:56:45.359 --> 01:56:47.000 to know the truth. They're going to tell us everything. 2271 01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:50.439 And I remember just interrupting in Saint Stephen. I've been 2272 01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:53.159 holding my breath for a long time. I'm not holding 2273 01:56:53.199 --> 01:56:55.760 it anymore. I've got a breathe, mate. I said, it's 2274 01:56:55.760 --> 01:56:58.079 not going to happen in twelve months. And here we 2275 01:56:58.119 --> 01:57:02.560 are twenty twenty six. Yes, we've had Senate inquiries. Yes, 2276 01:57:02.600 --> 01:57:08.119 we've had whistleblowers, We've had government officials saying yet these 2277 01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:13.279 things exist. We've seen videos where military Air Force released 2278 01:57:13.880 --> 01:57:15.479 I don't know why we need to wait for the 2279 01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:18.840 United States of America to say. And apparently now Russia 2280 01:57:18.880 --> 01:57:23.039 has just released some declassified some of the UFO documents 2281 01:57:23.039 --> 01:57:25.560 over the last few days. So let's see how that unfolds. 2282 01:57:25.880 --> 01:57:29.000 But why do we need America to say to us, no, 2283 01:57:29.359 --> 01:57:33.640 you know this is happening. Okay, it's real, everybody, this 2284 01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:36.079 is what we want to do. That's never going to happen. 2285 01:57:36.720 --> 01:57:38.720 If it's going to happen, disclosure is going to happen, 2286 01:57:38.800 --> 01:57:40.880 it will be on the terms of the aliens. They'll 2287 01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:43.079 be like, Okay, guys, we've had enough of you stalling. 2288 01:57:43.479 --> 01:57:46.000 These people are ready to know. We're going to tell them. 2289 01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:49.560 You know what. I think it might cause a lot 2290 01:57:49.600 --> 01:57:55.479 of friction in society, in religion, in the financial stuff. 2291 01:57:55.600 --> 01:57:58.920 I can see that. But once we get over it 2292 01:57:59.039 --> 01:58:05.079 and understand what just happened, and we realize what's happened, 2293 01:58:05.319 --> 01:58:07.880 I think, Okay, religious people are going to call them 2294 01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:11.520 demons without a doubt. But I'm sick and tired of 2295 01:58:11.960 --> 01:58:16.520 waiting for a government to tell us. In a particular government. 2296 01:58:16.840 --> 01:58:22.520 We've had the French government, Belgium, Mexico, numerous countries that 2297 01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:25.439 have come out and said, yep, they exist, this is 2298 01:58:25.439 --> 01:58:28.399 what's going on. Like look at the Virginia case in Brazil. 2299 01:58:28.520 --> 01:58:31.520 Professor John Mack worked on that, interviewed the kids. Look 2300 01:58:31.520 --> 01:58:34.880 at aerial case, the school with all the kids, you know, 2301 01:58:34.960 --> 01:58:38.640 a couple of hundred kids seeing these craft land beings. 2302 01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:41.680 Get out. Look at Westall in Melbourne, craft lands in 2303 01:58:41.720 --> 01:58:44.199 the school beyond the school, two hundred and fifty three 2304 01:58:44.239 --> 01:58:48.199 hundred kids see it, Teachers takes photos, camera gets taken 2305 01:58:48.239 --> 01:58:52.119 away from them and disappears. And now it's all escalating. 2306 01:58:52.159 --> 01:58:54.159 It's coming out of the woodworks now and there's been 2307 01:58:54.319 --> 01:58:58.239 TV shows made about Westll in Melbourne. There's witnesses that 2308 01:58:58.319 --> 01:59:01.239 are in our older age now and they're coming forward 2309 01:59:01.239 --> 01:59:04.640 about it. Maybe these aliens were doing this for kids 2310 01:59:04.640 --> 01:59:07.159 in schools so they can get it in their heads 2311 01:59:07.199 --> 01:59:11.479 young and get that whole idea spread around. And let's 2312 01:59:11.479 --> 01:59:16.039 face it, with social media, internet, television ads now you've 2313 01:59:16.039 --> 01:59:17.800 got a lot of television ads that are you know, 2314 01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:22.800 UFO alien involvement there, and it's it's just everywhere in 2315 01:59:22.840 --> 01:59:25.720 your face now. So I think as a human race 2316 01:59:25.800 --> 01:59:30.199 we might struggle religiously with it. The religious side will 2317 01:59:30.239 --> 01:59:33.600 probably be the hardest thing to get through. That's when 2318 01:59:33.640 --> 01:59:36.880 it's going to split and divide people into the ones 2319 01:59:36.880 --> 01:59:39.119 who are going to go religiously and the ones who 2320 01:59:39.119 --> 01:59:42.279 are going to go Okay, they're here, let's see what 2321 01:59:42.359 --> 01:59:44.720 they have to offer, and that's what we've got to 2322 01:59:44.760 --> 01:59:47.800 look forward to. People sometimes think that if you've had 2323 01:59:47.880 --> 01:59:51.000 multiple experiences, you're lying. It's the other way with me. 2324 01:59:51.079 --> 01:59:53.479 I think if you've had one experience, you've probably dreamt 2325 01:59:53.479 --> 01:59:57.680 about something. When you have multiple experiences, that's when you're 2326 01:59:57.680 --> 02:00:01.720 having real encounters that doesn't happen just once, doesn't happen 2327 02:00:01.760 --> 02:00:05.039 by accident. And they target people for a reason, and 2328 02:00:05.119 --> 02:00:06.840 they could follow you through generations. 2329 02:00:07.319 --> 02:00:10.000 Absolutely, And you know what, I get a lot where 2330 02:00:10.159 --> 02:00:13.239 someone will share their experiences but kind of leave out 2331 02:00:13.399 --> 02:00:16.960 the ones which are truly bizarre or don't conform with 2332 02:00:17.239 --> 02:00:19.960 other experiences. And I say to them, listen, if it 2333 02:00:20.039 --> 02:00:23.319 happened and you think it's connected, share it without it. 2334 02:00:23.880 --> 02:00:26.000 I guarantee it. You know, there's there's probably someone else 2335 02:00:26.039 --> 02:00:29.079 out there which is also holding back because even though 2336 02:00:29.279 --> 02:00:32.399 UFOs ned in contact is strange in any case, but 2337 02:00:32.560 --> 02:00:35.199 it seems to be a little bit more accepted than 2338 02:00:35.319 --> 02:00:38.560 some of the slightly more bizarre things. But again it's 2339 02:00:39.000 --> 02:00:41.159 it's all part of one giant puzzle. 2340 02:00:41.600 --> 02:00:45.279 Well, it's so something, so new, and we don't understand that. 2341 02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:48.600 Anything we don't understand, we fear. But this is like 2342 02:00:49.159 --> 02:00:51.039 what you think they're going to come in a UFO 2343 02:00:51.640 --> 02:00:54.880 take you, get you through your wall, you're ceiling. However 2344 02:00:54.920 --> 02:00:57.439 they do it to get you in that craft take 2345 02:00:57.560 --> 02:01:01.279 you do things bring you back, and that's it, like 2346 02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:05.159 there's no other things attached to this experience. Of course 2347 02:01:05.199 --> 02:01:08.960 there is. And the more bizarre, look, I was sitting 2348 02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:13.239 here one day and my dog started freaking out. When 2349 02:01:13.279 --> 02:01:16.680 I say freaking out, she just stood on the lounge 2350 02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:19.880 and just looked. She was like a pointer dog, you know, 2351 02:01:19.920 --> 02:01:22.680 those hunting dogs that just when they lock on. But yeah, 2352 02:01:22.960 --> 02:01:25.760 she's looking into my bedroom. And I got the door 2353 02:01:26.279 --> 02:01:31.439 slightly opened, probably about you know, six inches open, and 2354 02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:34.640 my dog's look in there. She come down. She stood 2355 02:01:34.680 --> 02:01:36.560 next to me on the side of the lounge where 2356 02:01:36.560 --> 02:01:39.119 I'm sitting down, but she wouldn't go beyond past the 2357 02:01:39.159 --> 02:01:41.439 coffee table. That was like something was scaring her. And 2358 02:01:41.479 --> 02:01:43.680 my dog was running my room, running back out there 2359 02:01:43.760 --> 02:01:46.199 was something there. So I decided I took a video 2360 02:01:46.279 --> 02:01:48.640 of her how she was reacting. She was so strange. 2361 02:01:49.039 --> 02:01:51.439 And then I took couple of a video and a 2362 02:01:51.439 --> 02:01:54.520 couple of pictures of my bedroom door, and all of 2363 02:01:54.600 --> 02:01:57.760 a sudden, I noticed my bedroom door had opened wider. 2364 02:01:58.439 --> 02:02:01.439 And when I looked at the pictures, my dog was 2365 02:02:01.479 --> 02:02:04.680 standing there like she would not move past the coffee 2366 02:02:04.680 --> 02:02:07.760 table to get anywhere near my bedroom and we're still 2367 02:02:07.800 --> 02:02:09.760 in the lound room. You're halfway in the lound room. 2368 02:02:10.279 --> 02:02:12.600 And as I looked at the photo and I was 2369 02:02:12.680 --> 02:02:15.760 zoomed in, like I could see the door was open 2370 02:02:15.840 --> 02:02:20.159 more and there was an alien standing there, like big head, 2371 02:02:20.279 --> 02:02:23.119 big black eyes, and it had its arm out and 2372 02:02:23.159 --> 02:02:25.800 it was holding the door. So when I was in Canada, 2373 02:02:26.560 --> 02:02:30.399 Luigi Vendtelli was showing me a footage of this lady 2374 02:02:30.439 --> 02:02:34.479 who had a dog that was reacting strangely. Something happened. 2375 02:02:34.479 --> 02:02:36.199 I don't if someone tried to break in her house 2376 02:02:36.239 --> 02:02:39.439 but the lock or she had to break into her 2377 02:02:39.439 --> 02:02:42.079 house because she lost the key, I'm not sure, but 2378 02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:45.000 the door was damaged and the lock was removed, so 2379 02:02:45.039 --> 02:02:47.239 there was a hole in the door, and she said 2380 02:02:47.319 --> 02:02:50.680 her dog was fixated, just looking and I thought, yeah, 2381 02:02:50.720 --> 02:02:52.920 it could be someone perving, you know, our guy walking 2382 02:02:52.960 --> 02:02:55.039 past looking through the keyhole, going oh, yeah, there's a 2383 02:02:55.039 --> 02:02:57.640 woman in there wherever. But she said she'd never seen 2384 02:02:57.640 --> 02:02:59.760 her dog act the way it did. And then when 2385 02:02:59.800 --> 02:03:03.079 she a phone and took a photo through the keyhole 2386 02:03:03.239 --> 02:03:05.399 or through the hole, there was something on the other 2387 02:03:05.479 --> 02:03:08.479 side that looked a bit ailing alike, you know, the 2388 02:03:08.520 --> 02:03:12.000 big eyes, goldish looking in color. I think, so I 2389 02:03:12.039 --> 02:03:14.680 said to him, I've got He goes, please can you 2390 02:03:14.720 --> 02:03:17.479 send it to me. I just want to compare it. 2391 02:03:17.560 --> 02:03:19.640 He goes, I'll do some stuff with it and i'll 2392 02:03:19.800 --> 02:03:22.039 send it back to you. We'll see how that goes. 2393 02:03:22.039 --> 02:03:24.479 He's making a movie at the moment about Bobblaza, and 2394 02:03:24.520 --> 02:03:26.199 that should He told me it should come out in 2395 02:03:26.239 --> 02:03:31.239 America in March. He's not too sure about Australia. He 2396 02:03:31.359 --> 02:03:34.359 even looked at the photo and straight away he said, 2397 02:03:34.560 --> 02:03:37.159 this alien is actually his arms are crossing his holding 2398 02:03:37.159 --> 02:03:39.760 the door, and I'm like, that's what I thought. And 2399 02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:41.479 then he goes, jeez, look how big the head is 2400 02:03:41.520 --> 02:03:43.880 and how big the eyes are. And that's my dog 2401 02:03:43.960 --> 02:03:46.720 reacting to it. That caught my attention. It wasn't even 2402 02:03:46.840 --> 02:03:48.960 me looking and going, oh is that nail? It was 2403 02:03:49.000 --> 02:03:52.920 my dog's reaction. I can send you a couple of days. 2404 02:03:53.119 --> 02:03:56.359 You'll freak out. You'll be like, the dog is onto something. 2405 02:03:56.800 --> 02:03:59.640 It's crazy. That's why there's this high strange and stuff 2406 02:03:59.640 --> 02:04:04.279 that happens. It may seem paranormal, as in ghosts and stuff, 2407 02:04:04.279 --> 02:04:06.359 but it's all interlinked. It's all connected. 2408 02:04:06.640 --> 02:04:09.239 Yeah, absolutely, is it always the same. It's like it's 2409 02:04:09.439 --> 02:04:14.039 like a big giant bubble where all this stuff is incorporated. Now, Peter, 2410 02:04:14.279 --> 02:04:16.640 what I will do is I will make all your 2411 02:04:16.680 --> 02:04:19.079 links available so people can reach out to you, and 2412 02:04:19.119 --> 02:04:22.560 I'd also put links to Bill Chalker's book The Hair 2413 02:04:22.680 --> 02:04:27.560 of the Alien, DNA and Other Forensic Evidence of Alien Abductions. 2414 02:04:28.000 --> 02:04:30.199 There has been quite a bit of testing on the hair, 2415 02:04:30.880 --> 02:04:35.640 possibly without naming any names. Could be further analysis. 2416 02:04:35.199 --> 02:04:38.800 Yes, but as necessarily in the scientists saying there may 2417 02:04:38.880 --> 02:04:41.680 not be much to work with, and if there is, 2418 02:04:41.760 --> 02:04:44.479 it'll only be from the root. You won't get both 2419 02:04:44.600 --> 02:04:47.680 DNA's because it wasn't That sample was from the root, 2420 02:04:47.800 --> 02:04:50.039 not the shaft. But he said to me it was 2421 02:04:50.119 --> 02:04:53.119 closer to the roots. I'm hoping that it was root 2422 02:04:53.199 --> 02:04:56.279 and shaft and they may get the same read out, 2423 02:04:56.319 --> 02:04:58.640 you know what I mean. You know what's funny too, 2424 02:04:58.720 --> 02:05:00.199 A lot of people saying to me, are I bet 2425 02:05:00.239 --> 02:05:02.359 you you don't have the hair. Look, it's been tested, 2426 02:05:02.439 --> 02:05:04.800 it's been put out there, it's in books, everything, and 2427 02:05:04.840 --> 02:05:07.840 people still say, by I don't believe that he's lying 2428 02:05:07.880 --> 02:05:11.039 about the test. Where's the evidence, where's the testing? It's 2429 02:05:11.079 --> 02:05:14.159 in the book, it's all there, the whole procedure. So yeah, 2430 02:05:14.279 --> 02:05:17.560 well we'll just see what happens with this if it's 2431 02:05:17.960 --> 02:05:19.960 with this sample that I have. But a lot of 2432 02:05:19.960 --> 02:05:23.439 people question I where you don't have the hair anymore. 2433 02:05:23.680 --> 02:05:26.199 I'll bet you, you know, like there be derogatory, and I'll 2434 02:05:26.199 --> 02:05:27.720 say no, no, I do have a piece of the 2435 02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:29.800 hair and I still do it. And I didn't have 2436 02:05:29.840 --> 02:05:32.960 that for ten years. Ten years. Bill Chalker had the 2437 02:05:33.159 --> 02:05:36.680 sample with him, and then the sample that they want 2438 02:05:36.680 --> 02:05:39.640 to test now that's in a little tube. The head 2439 02:05:39.680 --> 02:05:42.760 scientist told me years ago, twenty eight years ago. Mate, 2440 02:05:42.760 --> 02:05:44.880 he said to me, I'd put it in my I 2441 02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:47.119 got a little bit. It's in my safe. It's in 2442 02:05:47.119 --> 02:05:49.720 a cool area in my safe. He said. You never 2443 02:05:49.800 --> 02:05:52.359 know in twenty years what we could do with DNA, 2444 02:05:52.800 --> 02:05:54.319 he said to me. At the time, he goes like, 2445 02:05:54.600 --> 02:05:57.680 DNA is in its infancy stage. At the moment, we're 2446 02:05:57.760 --> 02:05:59.760 just crawling with it. We don't know. We have an 2447 02:05:59.800 --> 02:06:02.920 egg started walking. We were hoping that, yeah, this sample 2448 02:06:03.000 --> 02:06:05.840 might create a clone or something. But I don't think 2449 02:06:05.880 --> 02:06:08.720 it's strong enough enough DNA in there to do that. 2450 02:06:08.840 --> 02:06:12.680 But I'm interested to see. But yeah, after twenty eight 2451 02:06:12.760 --> 02:06:16.399 years and many many requests for Bill to give me, 2452 02:06:16.640 --> 02:06:19.119 to get me that sample that was in the safe. 2453 02:06:19.399 --> 02:06:21.760 The scientist forgot about it, kept saying no, no, I 2454 02:06:21.760 --> 02:06:24.159 don't think something. Peter's wrong, and I was like, no, no, no, 2455 02:06:24.239 --> 02:06:27.319 I'm not wrong. And then recently, after I did the 2456 02:06:27.359 --> 02:06:30.960 area fifty two podcasts, he reached out. The scientist reached 2457 02:06:30.960 --> 02:06:34.439 out to Chris Ramsey and sent him a picture of 2458 02:06:34.439 --> 02:06:36.640 the viol and he said, yeah, Peter's right, I found it. 2459 02:06:36.960 --> 02:06:39.319 So there's another thing that backs up my story where 2460 02:06:39.680 --> 02:06:42.840 I make a claim and then he's twenty eight years later, 2461 02:06:43.079 --> 02:06:44.119 it's proven true. 2462 02:06:44.319 --> 02:06:47.000 Absolutely. And I think the important thing is as well, Peter, 2463 02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:49.800 that you know, regardless of how much information we can 2464 02:06:49.960 --> 02:06:53.560 now pull out this DNA, is the fact that the 2465 02:06:53.680 --> 02:06:56.960 scientific community had taken note and are interested. 2466 02:06:57.520 --> 02:06:57.800 True. 2467 02:06:57.920 --> 02:07:01.600 So true, Yeah, wonderful stuff. Now, before we draw this 2468 02:07:01.680 --> 02:07:05.439 episode to a close, what advice would you give someone 2469 02:07:05.439 --> 02:07:08.640 who believes they have had similar experiences to your own? 2470 02:07:08.680 --> 02:07:12.880 Peter min advice to anybody who is having any type 2471 02:07:12.880 --> 02:07:20.359 of experience, paranormal, alien, whatever, Always document your experience and 2472 02:07:20.479 --> 02:07:22.800 only let it go too line not. It's hard sometimes 2473 02:07:22.840 --> 02:07:27.119 to put pen in the paper, but definitely document your experience. 2474 02:07:27.159 --> 02:07:29.880 Do it in point form. That way there's a record 2475 02:07:29.920 --> 02:07:34.720 that your people can always relate to. And please please 2476 02:07:35.279 --> 02:07:38.960 speak out. Don't feel like you know you're going to 2477 02:07:38.960 --> 02:07:43.199 be ridiculed. All that stuff happened years ago. I was ridiculed, 2478 02:07:43.239 --> 02:07:45.359 I was laughed at, you know, people call me crazy 2479 02:07:45.399 --> 02:07:48.560 all that, and there was nothing you could do. So 2480 02:07:48.880 --> 02:07:51.840 all I ask you to do is tell your story, 2481 02:07:52.760 --> 02:07:55.600 hoping that someone will hear it, that will relate to 2482 02:07:55.680 --> 02:07:58.119 it and they will tell their story. And I've found 2483 02:07:58.319 --> 02:08:00.520 since I've done the last few podcasts, so I've got 2484 02:08:00.600 --> 02:08:04.359 so many messages from people saying, oh my god, I 2485 02:08:04.359 --> 02:08:06.199 thought I was the only one going through this, and 2486 02:08:06.239 --> 02:08:08.359 now I realize it's you and there's other people and 2487 02:08:08.399 --> 02:08:09.800 I want to connect with you and I want to 2488 02:08:09.800 --> 02:08:12.600 tell you my story and they have been We just 2489 02:08:12.640 --> 02:08:16.520 need to do that publicly, like get on these forums. 2490 02:08:16.840 --> 02:08:21.479 I'm speaking in July at a meeting in Sydney. I 2491 02:08:21.720 --> 02:08:25.520 usually wouldn't advertise for people, like I wouldn't put but 2492 02:08:25.560 --> 02:08:28.039 I'm going to ask people as many people as I 2493 02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:30.560 can to turn up because people are asking me, where 2494 02:08:30.600 --> 02:08:32.359 can we see you, where can we speak to you? 2495 02:08:33.039 --> 02:08:36.680 I just want people who relate to my story to 2496 02:08:36.800 --> 02:08:40.720 come out and if they've had experiences, just tell it, 2497 02:08:40.840 --> 02:08:41.960 don't hide it anymore. 2498 02:08:42.319 --> 02:08:44.760 And for that event, we put that down below so 2499 02:08:44.800 --> 02:08:46.079 people can pop along. 2500 02:08:46.399 --> 02:08:49.920 Yeah, it'll be the fourth of July one pm at 2501 02:08:49.960 --> 02:08:53.840 Burwood Club. Burwood, it's called in New South Wales, Sydney, 2502 02:08:53.920 --> 02:08:56.640 New South Wales. It's not far from the railway station, 2503 02:08:56.840 --> 02:08:59.760 so easy access. Yeah, fourth of July. I hope to 2504 02:08:59.800 --> 02:09:00.680 see a few people. 2505 02:09:00.760 --> 02:09:02.119 Are wonderful stuff. 2506 02:09:02.159 --> 02:09:02.399 Peter. 2507 02:09:02.640 --> 02:09:04.920 Glad you're start telling your account after all these years. 2508 02:09:05.000 --> 02:09:10.319 Peter. Yeah, it's repetitive. But the beauty about my story 2509 02:09:10.479 --> 02:09:13.399 is from the first day I went public with this 2510 02:09:13.600 --> 02:09:16.760 to now, my story hasn't changed at all. And that's 2511 02:09:16.760 --> 02:09:19.079 what a lot of people have noted and commented on. 2512 02:09:19.439 --> 02:09:22.159 You know, Peter's story has stood the test of time, 2513 02:09:22.840 --> 02:09:25.720 hasn't changed. You know. I'm not here to evolve my 2514 02:09:25.840 --> 02:09:29.319 story and make it suitable for people to me. It's 2515 02:09:29.439 --> 02:09:33.079 just tell my story, keep it consistent and that's that absolutely. 2516 02:09:33.079 --> 02:09:34.960 And I've heard some of your early ones and yeah, 2517 02:09:35.239 --> 02:09:38.159 yours hasn't changed, Peter. I really appreciate you coming on 2518 02:09:38.279 --> 02:09:39.720 sharing it all for our listeners. 2519 02:09:40.079 --> 02:09:41.199 Pleasure. It's a pleasure. 2520 02:09:41.399 --> 02:09:44.039 It's been wonderful meeting you tonight. Okay, take care of 2521 02:09:44.079 --> 02:09:46.359 yourself all right, and we'll speak soon, sir. 2522 02:09:46.520 --> 02:09:49.079 We'll do. Thank you bye for now. Bye. 2523 02:09:49.439 --> 02:09:52.479 Well, that is all for this episode. Keep update and 2524 02:09:52.600 --> 02:09:56.479 connected with the show on x, Facebook and Instagram. And 2525 02:09:56.560 --> 02:09:58.399 if you have an encounter that you'd like to share 2526 02:09:58.479 --> 02:10:03.039 on the podcast, email me at UFO chronicles at gmail 2527 02:10:03.159 --> 02:10:05.760 dot com, or you can reach out to me via 2528 02:10:05.800 --> 02:10:10.920 the contact page on my website ufo Chronicles podcast dot com. 2529 02:10:10.960 --> 02:10:13.600 A big fang it aptera for sharing tonight, and thank 2530 02:10:13.640 --> 02:10:16.520 you all for listening. I will be back next week. 2531 02:10:16.760 --> 02:10:19.960 Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. 2532 02:10:20.560 --> 02:11:00.680 Goodbye to 2533 02:11:16.199 --> 02:11:16.239 A