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Speaker 4: I listen to that show intro every day and I
Speaker 4: have for really the last I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's been the same. I feel like I took the
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Speaker 4: So really the same exact intro has been in place
Speaker 4: here for me for seven years or so, and it's
Speaker 4: just routine now. I mean, it goes in one ear
Speaker 4: out the other every day. But I had somebody, you know,
Speaker 4: compliment the show intro the other day and that, and
Speaker 4: that reminded me, you know what, that is a pretty
Speaker 4: good show intro. If it's not broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 4: Over time. You usually update those things and change it.
Speaker 4: But I feel like the clips that you hear as
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Speaker 4: very fitting with what this show actually is. We don't
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm trying to think of the order of
Speaker 4: those clips, and I'm not gonna have you replayed again.
Speaker 4: But you know, as far as context, the one at
Speaker 4: the very end, who's the kid here?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: That was added back in twenty sixteen because at that time,
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how old I sound, if
Speaker 4: I sound my age, which is thirty six, or if
Speaker 4: I sound a lot younger, if I sound older now,
Speaker 4: but I remember at the time, you know, I was
Speaker 4: twenty gosh in twenty sixteen, that was eight years ago.
Speaker 4: I was twenty four years old. So I wasn't like,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I was younger than John is
Speaker 4: right now, and I still think of him as this
Speaker 4: young pup. What are he twenty six now? Seven twenty seven? Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you just said a birthday not long ago. So
Speaker 4: we used to occasionally get people to call and be like,
Speaker 4: who is this kid on the radio because they never
Speaker 4: had any live local sports on at noon on seven
Speaker 4: ninety so we kind of just leaned into it, like
Speaker 4: who's who's this kid?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? And now I'm not really a kid?
Speaker 4: You know, I can still play one on the radio
Speaker 4: and I enjoy doing that, but maybe now it can
Speaker 4: still fit because you know.
Speaker 3: Like, am I the kid child's play?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: No, you're.
Speaker 4: I mean you're I feel like you bring more maturity
Speaker 4: than your age, if that makes sense, Like and I'm
Speaker 4: and I know a lot of people probably tell you that,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know if I take it for granted,
Speaker 4: because it's not like if you were somebody that At times,
Speaker 4: I mean, I never think of you being as as
Speaker 4: you know, I don't think of you being nine ten
Speaker 4: years younger than me until there's a comment or there's
Speaker 4: a conversation going on where you know, throughout something you said,
Speaker 4: I realize, oh yeah, he wasn't even born then, Like
Speaker 4: I remember things that John wasn't alive for, or there's
Speaker 4: things that were really you know, you know, memorable to
Speaker 4: me when I was younger, or even just like a
Speaker 4: younger like a teenager, that he was a baby. So
Speaker 4: you know, you are you know, don't make him sound
Speaker 4: like an old and old.
Speaker 3: You're an old soul.
Speaker 4: I think that's probably the best way to describe it, right,
Speaker 4: You're not some old geezer, but yeah, you're an old soul.
Speaker 4: And I mean that as a compliment. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: used to think about mixing up the intro every now
Speaker 4: and then, but I'm glad I haven't given that thought
Speaker 4: in a long time because again, I think it still
Speaker 4: pretty much fits with what.
Speaker 3: We do here every day, which if.
Speaker 4: You're here with us right now, then you must enjoy
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Speaker 4: So how however you're listening, wherever you're listening, we appreciate it,
Speaker 4: even those of you that, of course, you know, listen
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Speaker 4: saying that, I'm sure I've just invited somebody to send
Speaker 4: in a complaint. But the no music on the podcast
Speaker 4: like that, they.
Speaker 3: Just took it for what it you know, that's the
Speaker 3: way it is for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just realized that, like that's I mean, what
Speaker 4: are we going to do. However, I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 4: not gonna do it, and I'm and I would never ask.
Speaker 3: You to do it.
Speaker 4: But I kind of feel like we could. We could
Speaker 4: throw music in there and nobody would notice. It's one
Speaker 4: of those things that like, yeah, we wouldn't want to
Speaker 4: be the show that's like, oh, why are you guys
Speaker 4: putting music? Yeah, well, I mean you're you're the company man,
Speaker 4: so you're not going to go against company rules and
Speaker 4: I would never ask you to do so. But like
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like that was a little bit overblown,
Speaker 4: if that makes sense, Like there was probably some kind
Speaker 4: of a legal lawsuit kind of thing put out there. Actually,
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Speaker 4: we can no longer play, we can no longer include
Speaker 4: music that is that is you know, own yeah, copy
Speaker 4: copywritten music in the podcasts.
Speaker 3: And you may think.
Speaker 4: To yourself, well, like everybody does that, Well no, no, Uh,
Speaker 4: no shows that that that are under the iHeart umbrella
Speaker 4: are allowed to do that anymore. And it's actually, you know,
Speaker 4: I know some people who work in bigger markets than
Speaker 4: this one that have like you know, tweeted out to
Speaker 4: their listeners how mad they are at their at at
Speaker 4: their employer meeting iHeart because like that was a huge
Speaker 4: part of their show.
Speaker 3: We don't really fall into that.
Speaker 4: But obviously there are some things that if podcast listeners
Speaker 4: only listen to the show that way, like, they may
Speaker 4: miss out on some context because sometimes the music that's
Speaker 4: playing is in fact fitting to whatever we're talking about.
Speaker 4: But my guess is that there was some kind of
Speaker 4: a somebody probably played like a song in its entirety
Speaker 4: or something, and you're not really supposed to do that.
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure how you can get, you know,
Speaker 4: in trouble for it. But all it took was like, hey,
Speaker 4: corporate sending out something to everybody in every market. Hey,
Speaker 4: we can't do this anymore when it comes to podcasts,
Speaker 4: and you know that's why we're in this position.
Speaker 3: But you know.
Speaker 4: What that means is that you should maybe try to
Speaker 4: check out some of the show live if you can.
Speaker 3: I mean, if not. I totally get it, but.
Speaker 4: I you know, I just realized that as soon as
Speaker 4: I was mentioning our podcast listeners that I guess they
Speaker 4: finally just accept it. Hey, sorry, we can't include the
Speaker 4: music in the podcast, but it's you know, numbers are
Speaker 4: still pretty good, so it hasn't scared people away as
Speaker 4: far as those who listen. So you know again, I'll
Speaker 4: repeat however you're listening, wherever you're listening, we thank you.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: We are loaded today and I don't have any guest schedule.
Speaker 4: I thought about reaching out to some of our regulars,
Speaker 4: but I've decided to move those folks.
Speaker 3: Down the line. We usually are much more.
Speaker 4: Guest heavy on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and that that needs
Speaker 4: to be the case today, So you guys can certainly react.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you how you can do that coming up
Speaker 4: here in just a moment. I'm pretty sure a lot
Speaker 4: of you already know, but if not, I will make
Speaker 4: sure you have all the info needed. If you want
Speaker 4: to ask a question, make a complaint, maybe you want
Speaker 4: to insult you make fun of me, or maybe you
Speaker 4: want to give me a compliment. Whatever you want, we'll
Speaker 4: give you the option to do exactly that. But we
Speaker 4: obviously have to start with last night, and that was
Speaker 4: the first exhibition game for Pat Kelsey here at Louisville,
Speaker 4: as they took care of business in a major way,
Speaker 4: knocking off Young Harris one oh six to fifty nine
Speaker 4: in a game where they made twenty four to three pointers,
Speaker 4: which of course would have been a program record. We
Speaker 4: had the postgame show last night, and I try not
Speaker 4: only on the football postgame shows, but the basketball ones
Speaker 4: as well, to give you the next day sort of
Speaker 4: a condensed version or maybe you know, some added thoughts,
Speaker 4: some belated thoughts, because when we start these postgame shows,
Speaker 4: I mean it's as soon as the game ends, so
Speaker 4: as the time we get it at the time we
Speaker 4: get it rolling, I'm I'm usually kind of collecting my thoughts,
Speaker 4: kind of forming an opinion, kind of forming which which
Speaker 4: way I want to go and which you know, which
Speaker 4: opinions I want to share first. Now, last night, I
Speaker 4: mean the game was over by halftime, so I had
Speaker 4: a pretty good idea of of what I wanted to
Speaker 4: do and really just make it about how refreshing this is.
Speaker 4: I mean, you saw a team out there that played hard.
Speaker 4: They clearly have an identity they are, I think a
Speaker 4: reflection of their coach, and that's a good thing. We had,
Speaker 4: you know, a situation for the last couple of years
Speaker 4: where I think at times these guys were a reflection
Speaker 4: of the guy on the sideline or the guys on
Speaker 4: the sideline, and that wasn't a good thing. So overall,
Speaker 4: I mean, you won one o six to fifty nine,
Speaker 4: and this team was fun to watch. I mean, I
Speaker 4: think the way you saw them play is certainly going
Speaker 4: to be the way they want to play every night
Speaker 4: out Now. There's gonna be teams that are going to
Speaker 4: be much I mean, let's be real, every team you
Speaker 4: play the rest of the way, maybe outside of Spalding,
Speaker 4: who's who, they're not in town. They live here, they're
Speaker 4: down the street, but they'll be here at the Young
Speaker 4: Center on next Monday for the second exhibition game. So
Speaker 4: everybody that you're going to play outside of these two
Speaker 4: exhibition opponents is going to be able to challenge you
Speaker 4: in a way that that you know, young Harrison Spaulding won't.
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is they're going to
Speaker 4: try to take away the three point line. They're gonna
Speaker 4: try to slow it down they're gonna, you know, they're
Speaker 4: gonna dic they're gonna try to dictate things much more
Speaker 4: than young Harris did. And maybe young Harris did try
Speaker 4: to dictate style of play, that kind of stuff, keeping
Speaker 4: Louisville from getting in what they wanted to do, and
Speaker 4: maybe they just weren't effective at it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, But.
Speaker 4: Hard to not be super impressed with what you saw,
Speaker 4: and it's hard also not to compare it to what
Speaker 4: was here the last couple of years. And I don't
Speaker 4: remember talking a whole lot about it yesterday, but I'm
Speaker 4: sure it probably came up at some point as we did,
Speaker 4: of course talk basketball as we were getting set for
Speaker 4: the first of exhibition game. But I wanted to just,
Speaker 4: you know, not think about the last two years and
Speaker 4: not really find myself comparing every little thing that Pat
Speaker 4: Kelsey and his group in the way they're doing things
Speaker 4: to what we had in the Kenny payinnair.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to do that because I just, I mean,
Speaker 4: I just didn't want and nobody really wants to go
Speaker 4: relive that, of course, I mean, who would, right, It
Speaker 4: was disastrous, We all know that, and we did it
Speaker 4: for longer than we needed to. But seeing everybody last
Speaker 4: night doing the same, you know, doing what I was
Speaker 4: trying not to do. And at the time it was
Speaker 4: hard for me. You know, I was watching the game
Speaker 4: at home with my wife and my kids, and obviously,
Speaker 4: you know, my son's just old enough now to where,
Speaker 4: like you know, he knows their rain in threes and
Speaker 4: he's losing his mind. He's having fun and he's enjoying it.
Speaker 4: But every little detail about Louisville last night I was
Speaker 4: I was impressed with. I mean not to say they're perfect.
Speaker 4: I mean, clearly I can find some things that potentially,
Speaker 4: when you play much better teams like we might need
Speaker 4: to be worried about. But like last night, it wasn't
Speaker 4: really about that. It was just knowing you're It was
Speaker 4: the visual confirmation that you are in a way better
Speaker 4: place than you than you were previously. And we all
Speaker 4: knew that, but last night was a chance to see it.
Speaker 4: And I know they played in the Bahamas, but a
Speaker 4: lot of people probably didn't watch those games. I'm sure
Speaker 4: many did, but you know it's a little different. It's
Speaker 4: you know, it's not at the Yump Center, right, It's
Speaker 4: not after these guys have practiced together for for many,
Speaker 4: many weeks and months. So you know, last night, the
Speaker 4: visual confirmation, it was, it was awesome, and everybody enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: But I could tell I wasn't the only one seeing
Speaker 4: every little thing and comparing it to what we had prior. Example,
Speaker 4: the bench, I mean to see the energy from everybody
Speaker 4: on the bench, all eleven staffers that are there, either
Speaker 4: on the bench or behind the bench. I mean, they're
Speaker 4: into it as if they're about to check in the
Speaker 4: game at any moment. And look, some of those guys
Speaker 4: are because they clearly are going to play a lot
Speaker 4: of guys if they can meeting players, but every staff member,
Speaker 4: I mean the intensity, the energy. They're all on the
Speaker 4: same level, the same wavelength, if you will, when it
Speaker 4: comes to their enthusiasm and to really just being locked in.
Speaker 4: And you know, that's one of many things again that
Speaker 4: stood out to me last night, and I realized just
Speaker 4: scrolling through Twitter listening to people in the postgame show
Speaker 4: that were either calling or texting, like it's almost impossible
Speaker 4: not to do it. I think it's I think it's
Speaker 4: it's human nature. And it reminded me of something that
Speaker 4: that we've talked about before and This may sound like
Speaker 4: a reach, It may sound crazy to some, but I
Speaker 4: believe it. Coaching changes are like breakups or divorces. They are,
Speaker 4: I mean they're not, but they are especially you know,
Speaker 4: for for for most transactions, if you will, whenever you
Speaker 4: move on from one coach to another, you're not single
Speaker 4: for a while, getting your life together and you know,
Speaker 4: resetting things emotionally, maybe trying to you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 4: maybe a bad breakup or a divorce puts you in
Speaker 4: therapy for a few years and you kind of got
Speaker 4: to reset and start anew to where if you end
Speaker 4: up finding somebody five years after your divorce, maybe you're
Speaker 4: not thinking about your your previous partner as much because
Speaker 4: you've had a lot of time. Well that's not how
Speaker 4: this works unless you have like an interim coach, and
Speaker 4: we we actually have had some interim coaches for a while.
Speaker 4: You know, you had David Patchett for a year, you
Speaker 4: had Mike Bgeze for half a season, so I guess
Speaker 4: we have been there. But this time around, you went
Speaker 4: straight from Kenny Payne and that disaster to to Pat Kelsey.
Speaker 4: So you know, when you don't really I mean, you
Speaker 4: go from one to the other. I think it's again,
Speaker 4: it's it's you can try to tell yourself not to
Speaker 4: draw comparisons, but it's almost impossible, I think. So it's
Speaker 4: not like people are oneing to go dance on the
Speaker 4: grave of those that advocated that Kenny Payne was deserving
Speaker 4: to be here, not only as long as he was,
Speaker 4: but maybe longer than he was. But it's it's impossible
Speaker 4: not to to find yourself, you know, looking at every
Speaker 4: little detail. And maybe it's not every little detail for
Speaker 4: you guys like it is me. Maybe it's just, hey,
Speaker 4: the energy from from the from the players on the floor,
Speaker 4: the effort, the clear identity that they have and a
Speaker 4: clear you know, plan for how they want to play.
Speaker 4: It was just it was awesome, you know. And look,
Speaker 4: they won one oh six to fifty nine, and it's
Speaker 4: not a real game. They're gonna face much tougher competition.
Speaker 4: There's gonna be games where they don't make twenty four
Speaker 4: threes and shoot it forty three percent from downtown. But
Speaker 4: there's also gonna be games where they do make twenty
Speaker 4: plus threes. I think, just because that's how this team
Speaker 4: is built. So, you know, I don't know how much
Speaker 4: I really learned about this team that I was surprised by,
Speaker 4: because again, it's hard to really know what you're learning
Speaker 4: whenever you're playing that type of competition. I mean, last
Speaker 4: night was really similar to what we saw in the Bahamas,
Speaker 4: to be honest with you, but it felt more real
Speaker 4: because there were fans that were there in attendance. We
Speaker 4: had a postgame show. I mean, it's October. You know
Speaker 4: you're about to play a real game coming up here
Speaker 4: in two weeks, and in a little bit over two
Speaker 4: weeks you're gonna have a game against the number twelve
Speaker 4: team in the country, and that's the Tennessee Vall. So
Speaker 4: a nice way to get things started for Pat Kelcey
Speaker 4: last night. I kind of feel like we've had at
Speaker 4: least I have mentioned like three different times that we've
Speaker 4: gotten the Pat Kelsey era started. And I guess technically
Speaker 4: it started the day he got hired BEFO, we're going
Speaker 4: to be real here. I mean, he became your coach
Speaker 4: at that time, and then you had, of course him
Speaker 4: putting the roster together. Obviously they played some exhibition games
Speaker 4: in the Bahamas. Louisville Live was you know, the first
Speaker 4: time you got a chance to show up at the
Speaker 4: Young Center and see Pat Kelsey there. Obviously not a
Speaker 4: game or anything like that. And then last night was
Speaker 4: your first exhibition game. You'll have another one, but the
Speaker 4: actual first real game that counts for Pat is in
Speaker 4: thirteen days as they take on Morehead State. So if
Speaker 4: you guys have thoughts and things you want to share
Speaker 4: as far as what you took away from last night
Speaker 4: or whatever, you can certainly do that. I just you know,
Speaker 4: I wanted not to even bring up the previous two
Speaker 4: years at any point, but again, I felt better about
Speaker 4: my situation. And you know, it's not like I have
Speaker 4: real trauma. I mean, it's I mean, I should stop
Speaker 4: saying PTSD because there are people who truly suffer from
Speaker 4: PTSD from like, real life awful things. Kenny Payne was
Speaker 4: a real life awful thing for all of us. But
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's sorts and it's over. You know,
Speaker 4: if that's the worst thing that ever happens to us,
Speaker 4: then you know it's still suck and it would still
Speaker 4: be something terrible.
Speaker 3: But you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So good vibes for Louisville Hoops, no doubt about that.
Speaker 4: And hearing Pat Kelsey talk last night. I mean again,
Speaker 4: maybe that's not a little thing, because I kind of
Speaker 4: feel like it's it's it's not a little thing. I
Speaker 4: feel like it's something that we probably will pay more
Speaker 4: attention to than than we ever have. Right because when
Speaker 4: things were so bad, and you would listen to Kenny
Speaker 4: at any moment, rather it be a presser getting ready
Speaker 4: for a game, his radio show, press conferences after the games,
Speaker 4: like you would, you would hear him and it would
Speaker 4: make you feel worse. And you know, Pat Kelsey ends
Speaker 4: up losing some games that we feel like he shouldn't lose.
Speaker 4: We'll still pay attention to what he says, but like
Speaker 4: you know, results matter. But right now, last night, for
Speaker 4: and his postgame presser, I feel like it was another
Speaker 4: like it was another opportunity to to, you know, take
Speaker 4: advantage of what this fan base is. Man, we're crazy.
Speaker 4: We will, in fact, like get excited about you talking
Speaker 4: about how awesome it was for you to experience the
Speaker 4: Young Center for the first time.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: Little things that we used to just take for granted
Speaker 4: that wouldn't really be on your radar at all, are
Speaker 4: now on your radar at every turn because we didn't
Speaker 4: have it for a while and we realized how how
Speaker 4: how you know how important the little things are. And
Speaker 4: I want to give credit to there's a Twitter account
Speaker 4: State of Louisville that put together a little montage here,
Speaker 4: and it's just comparing quotes from Pat Kelsey's press conference
Speaker 4: last night to things we heard in the first couple
Speaker 4: of years and I mean in the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: And it's I.
Speaker 4: Mean it's these are all quotes from Kenny that you
Speaker 4: probably remember that made you want to rip your hair out.
Speaker 4: But you know, like and again with Pat last night,
Speaker 4: it was nice to hear him go into detail and
Speaker 4: talk about like you can tell this guy is like
Speaker 4: he's he's gonna work his tail out, He's gonna succeed here,
Speaker 4: He's gonna die trying.
Speaker 3: That's what it seems like.
Speaker 4: And that is what you would expect for somebody who
Speaker 4: is in this position coaching the Louisville men's basketball program.
Speaker 4: But you know, we didn't we didn't have that previously.
Speaker 4: But this is about a minute in fifteen seconds, and
Speaker 4: I thought it was worth hearing.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: This is I don't know who put it together for them,
Speaker 4: but the Twitter account is State of Louisville and I
Speaker 4: thought it was really really well done.
Speaker 5: What I inherited was broken.
Speaker 2: And I really appreciate the guys here at the Young
Speaker 2: Center that busted their tail to try to get the
Speaker 2: water right in the locker.
Speaker 5: Room more than I could ever tell you. It was broken.
Speaker 2: They operate with excellence, as does our administration.
Speaker 5: It wasn't just basketball. It was broken beyond broke awesome.
Speaker 2: You know. I think the crowd really really appreciate how
Speaker 2: we're playing. And guys were playing hard at heck, they're
Speaker 2: sharing the ball or banging shots. It was exciting.
Speaker 5: They brought the fight we didn't. I can just tell
Speaker 5: you we didn't come to a fight. It was a fight,
Speaker 5: and it was the.
Speaker 2: First time I heard the young roar what do they
Speaker 2: call it in Augusta National, the Tiger roar, the young roar,
Speaker 2: I'm down for it.
Speaker 5: We didn't have the tyst that he wanted, so he
Speaker 5: didn't know if he wanted to play.
Speaker 2: I loved, loved those two walk ons at the end
Speaker 2: of the game putting their teeth on that loose ball
Speaker 2: over there in the corner, and our bench just went nuts.
Speaker 2: That speaks to culture.
Speaker 5: That's what young people do.
Speaker 2: So number thirty five had one hundred and eighty seven
Speaker 2: free throws last year, Number twenty at one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty one, and number twelve had one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2: Like that's off the charts.
Speaker 4: So again, like that hearing those clips back to back.
Speaker 4: I mean again, if you ever needed confirmation of like
Speaker 4: the little it may not have registered to you last
Speaker 4: night the past Kelsey just reeled off how many free
Speaker 4: throws in total? Three guys who played for Young Harris
Speaker 4: last year attempted like, you know why he knows that
Speaker 4: because he's he's a basketball sicko. I mean, he's obsessed
Speaker 4: with this and that's why. And that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: You need somebody like that around here, somebody who's going
Speaker 4: to succeed or die trying. Somebody that may, in fact,
Speaker 4: you know, sacrifice their health and their well being because
Speaker 4: they love this so much. And that's not fair that
Speaker 4: that sounds, you know, a little dangerous, but hey, like
Speaker 4: this job is for everybody, and you know, unfortunately, I
Speaker 4: think we've we've always known that, but we really learned
Speaker 4: that the hard way with the previous regime. But exciting times,
Speaker 4: no doubt, we got a lot to get to today.
Speaker 4: I mean, how about Lamar Jackson last night? Pretty scary,
Speaker 4: pretty scary for the rest of the NFL. That guy's
Speaker 4: got two MVPs already, and and he got better. He's
Speaker 4: gotten better. He's playing the best football of his young career.
Speaker 4: And I can say young career, I think, I mean,
Speaker 4: he's been in the league a while again, already has
Speaker 4: two MVP trophies in his trophy case. But like, if
Speaker 4: he continues to get better, or if he just stays
Speaker 4: the way he's playing right now, that's a dangerous thing
Speaker 4: for the rest of the NFL. And it does kind
Speaker 4: of seem as if the conversation about Lamar nationally has
Speaker 4: shifted to where, all right, if anybody's out there claiming
Speaker 4: this guy is not one of the best things we've
Speaker 4: seen out there, then.
Speaker 3: You know you need help.
Speaker 4: And look, I know he hasn't won a Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: and clearly he's hit a level and he's been at
Speaker 4: this level for a while that in the eyes of
Speaker 4: some without that Super Bowl ring, he'll look like somebody
Speaker 4: who has yet to get it done, has yet to
Speaker 4: really leave his mark on the NFL, which is nonsense,
Speaker 4: but you know what, that's just how it works. But
Speaker 4: right now, we'll see. I mean, this Ravens team, they
Speaker 4: look better than they've ever looked with since Lamar's been there.
Speaker 4: I mean, Derrick Henry, the thought of the Titans letting
Speaker 4: that guy walk, Jerry Jones and Dalla Now we don't,
Speaker 4: we're good. I mean, he's still really, really special and
Speaker 4: you put him in Lamar Jackson together. That's again, that's
Speaker 4: scary for everybody else. All right, we didn't. I mean
Speaker 4: I was pretty much just you know, crying and dealing
Speaker 4: with Louisville's lost to Miami and just the three losses
Speaker 4: in mid to late October. It's you know, it's a
Speaker 4: gut punch. So you know, we'll get back into that
Speaker 4: today if you guys won. I mean, louisll is back
Speaker 4: in action on Friday against Boston College. But what I
Speaker 4: wanted to get to today is the college football playoff race.
Speaker 4: Not like we're going to break down bracketology or anything
Speaker 4: like that, but maybe playoff race isn't the right way
Speaker 4: to describe it.
Speaker 3: But I feel like we're in a really rare spot here.
Speaker 3: We're in the middle of October, late October.
Speaker 4: Honestly October twenty second, and I don't think we know
Speaker 4: who the best team or maybe even the best two
Speaker 4: teams are in college football, and that feels rare. We know,
Speaker 4: I mean, the national champion is likely going to come
Speaker 4: from one of those that's in the elite tier, right,
Speaker 4: one of the usual programs that finds themselves competing for
Speaker 4: a national championship. But as far as who you would
Speaker 4: say right now is the best team in college football,
Speaker 4: I don't know who you would even like. I think
Speaker 4: you could make the case for a handful of teams,
Speaker 4: but you could also, you know, you could also make
Speaker 4: the case against some of those teams, right, like Bama
Speaker 4: if they win the national championship at the end of
Speaker 4: the year. I mean, I'm not predicting it, but like,
Speaker 4: can we say that we'd be stunned? I don't think so.
Speaker 4: You know, Georgia obviously they went in and knocked off
Speaker 4: Texas and they looked good doing it, but they've also
Speaker 4: been vulnerable this year, more so than they really have
Speaker 4: ever been under Kirby Smart at least, you know, since
Speaker 4: they got on such a great run there. Obviously, Oregon
Speaker 4: is the number one team in the country now, but
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if they look like a
Speaker 4: team that you can claim, well, you know what, if
Speaker 4: they keep playing the way they're playing right now, nobody's
Speaker 4: beating them. So it's kind of fun to be honest
Speaker 4: with you. Now, there are still what seven undefeated teams
Speaker 4: right now? I'm sorry, there's ten undefeated teams, and I
Speaker 4: thought y'all who did a really good job of breaking
Speaker 4: down each of those undefeated teams as far as you
Speaker 4: know they're most likely loss if they get one, and
Speaker 4: really a good look at the strength of schedule, which
Speaker 4: I think will tell the story about you know how
Speaker 4: some of these teams are in fact undefeated, because I
Speaker 4: think there's teams with one loss that I would put
Speaker 4: ahead of nearly every undefeated team if I'm being honest
Speaker 4: with you. So we're loaded, as mentioned, so stick around. Also,
Speaker 4: I don't know what I can add to it, but
Speaker 4: how about Mark Pope's car running out of gas this morning?
Speaker 4: I mean, you trust a guy to take over your
Speaker 4: program that doesn't know when he's got to fill up
Speaker 4: the gas tank? I mean, I mean he wouldn't televise
Speaker 4: the Blue White scrimmage fans who you know, don't have
Speaker 4: enough money to pay hundreds of dollars for tickets. They
Speaker 4: couldn't even watch the Blue White game. Now, this guy's
Speaker 4: running out of gas on his way to work, could
Speaker 4: be could be uh troubled in Lexington before you even
Speaker 4: actually get to see him coach a game. I mean,
Speaker 4: you do what you want, but I'd be concerned if
Speaker 4: I was you, if I was a Kentucky fan. So
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson last night sensational. I mean, there have been
Speaker 4: three games in the NFL in the history of the
Speaker 4: league where a quarterback threw for five or more touchdowns
Speaker 4: and on fewer than twenty five pass attempts while also
Speaker 4: running for fifty yards fifty or more yards. And you
Speaker 4: know who's done all three of those, Lamar Jackson. So
Speaker 4: five or more touchdowns on fewer than twenty five passing
Speaker 4: attempts and also ran for over fifty yards. That's only
Speaker 4: happened three times. Again, Lamar has done it every single time.
Speaker 4: And that's not really like, that's not that crazy of
Speaker 4: his status because at this point, like everybody knows just
Speaker 4: how rare he is. But you know he's also had Yeah,
Speaker 4: when you look, when you look at just the most
Speaker 4: most games, take away the rushing component and just look
Speaker 4: at passing touchdowns. As far as the most games with
Speaker 4: five or more passing touchdowns and zero interceptions, Lamar has
Speaker 4: done it five times, which matches Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 4: And the only guys that have done it more is
Speaker 4: Tom Brady and Drew Brees have done it eight times.
Speaker 4: So you know that's Lamar. You know, clearly we're looking
Speaker 4: at a statistic that only factors in passing touchdowns without
Speaker 4: an interception. So the company within that impressive group is
Speaker 4: I mean, it's elite guys that you know clearly he
Speaker 4: would say, are great passers. And you know, Lamar, I
Speaker 4: used to be a little little sensitive to this because
Speaker 4: it was ridiculous for people to claim that he couldn't
Speaker 4: throw the ball like he wasn't. Like I mean again,
Speaker 4: it's still it's still thrown out there every now and
Speaker 4: then as a joke, and I get why people do it,
Speaker 4: but like, you know, not bad for a running back.
Speaker 4: And really, Lamar, you know, saying that after one of
Speaker 4: his NFL games many years ago, whenever he like he
Speaker 4: has done many times, put together a really good game
Speaker 4: and it really wasn't just because of his legs. He
Speaker 4: was out there throwing dots you know, he made the
Speaker 4: line pretty good for a running back, and like that's
Speaker 4: that's clearly you know, something people still mention from time
Speaker 4: to time. But I hated even acknowledging anybody who would
Speaker 4: claim that he'd be better off moving positions, because what
Speaker 4: that did when he came out of college, it said
Speaker 4: that you just didn't watch him. And that's not to
Speaker 4: say that like you know, I mean to me, it
Speaker 4: was quite literally people who just knew that he put
Speaker 4: up crazy numbers and they saw the highlights where he's
Speaker 4: making guys look ridiculous because they can't tackle him, and
Speaker 4: those things are impressive. That's a huge component to what
Speaker 4: Lamar does. But like you know, you didn't watch him
Speaker 4: in college if you felt like he needed to be
Speaker 4: at a different position, if you thought he just wasn't
Speaker 4: good enough at quarterback because you didn't trust his arm
Speaker 4: as far as the consistency and the accuracy, I disagree
Speaker 4: with you, but that's a different conversation. People who claimed
Speaker 4: that he needed to be at a different position just
Speaker 4: didn't watch him. Because if Lamar Jackson, let's say he
Speaker 4: was I don't know, maybe this is a little bit
Speaker 4: of a stretch. I was going to say, let's say
Speaker 4: he was half the quarterback he is as far as
Speaker 4: his arm and what he can do there, I still
Speaker 4: feel like he'd be better off to be your quarterback
Speaker 4: and just be a guy that you lean on his
Speaker 4: ability to run more than you do anything else. But
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe if Lamar, I mean, Lamar is
Speaker 4: such a gifted specimen as far as athleticism, electrifying speed
Speaker 4: that like I feel like you you know, if you
Speaker 4: wanted to put him elsewhere, you may find that he
Speaker 4: could be pretty good at, you know, at doing a
Speaker 4: lot of different things just because of how gifted he
Speaker 4: is as an athlete. I mean, there's a reason Bobby
Speaker 4: Patrino put him as a kickoff returner the first day
Speaker 4: he practiced, and there's also a reason why his mother
Speaker 4: called Bobby Patrino to make sure that never happens again.
Speaker 4: Right after that practice and the rest is history. He
Speaker 4: became a quarter He's clearly a quarterback. And you know,
Speaker 4: look at him now and when you look at you know,
Speaker 4: those that have have had you know, I mean again
Speaker 4: you can you know, we don't need to just run
Speaker 4: through all these stats and numbers because it's probably something
Speaker 4: that Louisville fans who follow Lamar.
Speaker 3: Are pretty familiar with.
Speaker 4: But like any any type of argument that like he's
Speaker 4: not everything, he's you know, he's proven to be as
Speaker 4: far and again like the proof has been there. Like anybody,
Speaker 4: anybody that would try to downplay his success in the
Speaker 4: NFL right now, meaning what he's already accomplished and the
Speaker 4: way he's playing right now, I mean, it would be
Speaker 4: such a force. You know, there are people who used
Speaker 4: to be in the group of all right, you know,
Speaker 4: they're going to try to, you know, take a different approach.
Speaker 4: They're going to try to be Devil's advocate and counter
Speaker 4: those who are talking about why Lamar is so great,
Speaker 4: And even those people can't do it now because he's
Speaker 4: playing the best football of his life and that's a
Speaker 4: scary thing for the rest of the NFL. And there's
Speaker 4: a lot of football to be played, and I think
Speaker 4: Lamar is clearly the MVP right now as it stands,
Speaker 4: but again, a lot of football to be played, and
Speaker 4: I think it will be harder for him to get
Speaker 4: another one unless he keeps doing exactly what he's doing
Speaker 4: right now, because there will be people that claim.
Speaker 3: Okay, we want because rather it be NFL.
Speaker 4: NBA, MLB, and I don't know as much about MLB,
Speaker 4: but like Lebron, James quite literally should have been the
Speaker 4: Most Valuable Player award winner in the NBA for like
Speaker 4: a decade straight. I mean he would bounce from team
Speaker 4: to team and take a team that was terrible and
Speaker 4: they would then be in contention to win the National Champion,
Speaker 4: to win the NBA title, like he proved year in
Speaker 4: and year out for a good stretch of his career
Speaker 4: to be the most valuable player in the league. And
Speaker 4: it wasn't even close. But they don't give it the
Speaker 4: same guy every year. And once you've won the won
Speaker 4: an award once, to get it a second time, you
Speaker 4: really have to go above and beyond where you already were,
Speaker 4: kind of like the Heisman Trophy, Like I don't think
Speaker 4: anybody will ever win the Husman twice again, don't think
Speaker 4: it'll happen. And if it was going to happen, it
Speaker 4: probably would have happened with Lamar, to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: So you know, like he needs a super Bowl, there's
Speaker 4: no there's no doubt about it. But he could not
Speaker 4: win a super Bowl and maybe not even win you know,
Speaker 4: maybe not even get to a super Bowl. And at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, like he could, he could
Speaker 4: stop playing right now, and he still would be looked at,
Speaker 4: in my opinion as one of the best quarterbacks to
Speaker 4: ever play as far as what he can do out
Speaker 4: there and what he's accomplished, you knowtically on an individual basis.
Speaker 4: And yes, despite his team's you know, his team not
Speaker 4: being in the Super Bowl since he's been there yet,
Speaker 4: and that's not something to completely ignore. But it's not
Speaker 4: like they're terrible, I mean, and again, this would be
Speaker 4: a real punch to the gut and I kind of
Speaker 4: fear that this may play out this way, but like
Speaker 4: who knows, Like let's say Lamar keeps doing what he's
Speaker 4: doing for the next few years, but yet they never
Speaker 4: make it there.
Speaker 3: You know why.
Speaker 4: It's probably because they're going to keep running into the
Speaker 4: current dynasty in the NFL, which is the Kansas City Chiefs,
Speaker 4: and like that would be it'd be a tough pill
Speaker 4: to swallow. But you know what happens in sports.
Speaker 3: There are many.
Speaker 4: Greats that probably would have collected a ring or two,
Speaker 4: but they happen to run into you know, Jordan and
Speaker 4: the Bulls in the nineties.
Speaker 3: So we'll see how it plays out. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of football left.
Speaker 4: But Mahome's still being looked at as an MVP like
Speaker 4: candidate right now. Like I mean, it's ridiculous, I get it,
Speaker 4: but it's based off of, you know, like what he's
Speaker 4: done in his career, which he's special. There's no doubt
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes is one of the best quarterbacks we've ever
Speaker 4: seen in the NFL. He could stop playing today and
Speaker 4: I think we'd still say that now. I believe he
Speaker 4: is absolutely benefiting from having a really good coach and
Speaker 4: Andy Reid and you know, a really good tight end
Speaker 4: in Travis Kelcey, and also you know Chris Jones. Let's
Speaker 4: be real, that guy's elite defensively, so, but you could
Speaker 4: say that about a lot of guys, right like Lamar
Speaker 4: early on in his career really benefited from a Ravens
Speaker 4: defense that was that was elite. So you know, that's
Speaker 4: that's part of it. But currently, let's look at some
Speaker 4: stats here, because this is like again to say that,
Speaker 4: you know, to tell somebody who thinks Patrick Mahomes should
Speaker 4: be an MVP candidate, to tell them that they're ridiculous,
Speaker 4: Like that's a ridiculous thing to say, right because he's Mahomes,
Speaker 4: He's he's a legend already, But like, shouldn't it be
Speaker 4: based off of, you know, like what you're doing, like
Speaker 4: what kind of like not just winning, but like what
Speaker 4: you're doing statistically, because right now you've got Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 4: who's again right now if you just go look at
Speaker 4: like the you.
Speaker 3: Know, the the odds.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's co front runner, or he was until
Speaker 4: Lamar went off last night and put together maybe the
Speaker 4: best game of his season. But Patrick Mahomes right now
Speaker 4: is sixteenth in the NFL and passing yards completion percentage
Speaker 4: he's eighth, and for touchdown passes, he's tied for twenty first.
Speaker 4: He has the same amount of touchdown passes as Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4: And he actually is tied for first with interceptions. I
Speaker 4: need to look that up and see if maybe that's
Speaker 4: an old stat but he has the same amount of
Speaker 4: interceptions as Gardner Minshew. So you know, Mahomes is great overall.
Speaker 4: Nobody would tell you differently, but like, why is he
Speaker 4: still viewed as somebody that is in the mix for
Speaker 4: the MVP with those numbers? Yes, his team's undefeated, but like,
Speaker 4: there are a better candidate. I mean, if the MVP
Speaker 4: is an overall award that doesn't go to specifically, you know,
Speaker 4: it doesn't have to be an offense or a defense
Speaker 4: guy can be one of either. Chris Jones is a
Speaker 4: better candidate for that award this year right now than
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes's. So with all that said, you know, I
Speaker 4: know there's going to continue to be talking about, well
Speaker 4: is everything's going to get a Super Bowl and we're
Speaker 4: just gonna have to live with that, and maybe some
Speaker 4: can deal with that better than others, better than me,
Speaker 4: because like it just triggers me a little bit because
Speaker 4: there are still people that will claim that if he
Speaker 4: doesn't get a super Bowl, then like the rest of
Speaker 4: his career is just, yeah, he's pretty good. He was
Speaker 4: all right, Like, no, you're watching somebody that is really
Speaker 4: there's no comparison. That's not to say he's the best ever,
Speaker 4: because I'm not saying that, but like the comparisons to
Speaker 4: Mike Vick aren't even accurate anymore. Like he's better than
Speaker 4: Mike Vick was and it's been proven, and there's still
Speaker 4: some people that I think that hesitate to say that,
Speaker 4: and you know, I don't know why, but I used
Speaker 4: to go from last night's first exhibition game, Pat Kelsey
Speaker 4: and his team putting on a show, draining twenty four
Speaker 4: to threes, dominating the opponent like you're supposed to do,
Speaker 4: and then turning on Lamar Jackson on Monday Night football
Speaker 4: and watching him, you know, do his thing. All right,
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Speaker 4: All right, so we've had a couple of different folks,
Speaker 4: A couple of different people mentioned the attendance last night
Speaker 4: at the at the game, and one person kind of mentioned, Hey,
Speaker 4: I know you don't want to talk about attendance, but like,
Speaker 4: how do we get it better?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: And it's not that I don't want to talk about it,
Speaker 4: because like I get that that is still something that
Speaker 4: is going to come up with fans, like, hey, do
Speaker 4: you think we'll have a great crowd, because crowds matter, right,
Speaker 4: Having good attendance is important for your games. I think
Speaker 4: there's context that should always be considered when you talk
Speaker 4: about attendance, because I think you can have a good
Speaker 4: team that is playing a lousy opponent that you've never
Speaker 4: heard of on a random you know, on a Saturday
Speaker 4: at noon in football, or on a Wednesday at nine
Speaker 4: pm in basketball, and the people not going doesn't mean
Speaker 4: that they're out on your program, your coach and the
Speaker 4: players and the current direction of where things are going.
Speaker 4: It's just people don't go to games like they used to.
Speaker 4: There's just not as much of an incentive to say
Speaker 4: that you were there. And I mean, you know, like
Speaker 4: last night, there were three different people that that I saw.
Speaker 3: One on Twitter.
Speaker 4: A couple of people texted in a screenshot of like
Speaker 4: what it would have cost them with fees to go
Speaker 4: to last night's game against Young Harris and it wasn't cheap.
Speaker 4: Now a lot of it's really just with stupid ticketmaster
Speaker 4: fees man and there are some other resell ticket reselling
Speaker 4: sites that that that you can get around that much
Speaker 4: of a of a of an expense to you know,
Speaker 4: have them email you a barcode, which is just insane
Speaker 4: that they're able to do that. But like, I just
Speaker 4: don't blame anybody who decided not to go because they
Speaker 4: didn't want to. I mean, it would be nice to
Speaker 4: be there to see Pat Kelsey coach this team on
Speaker 4: on the sideline for the first time, but like, I'm
Speaker 4: sure there's people that said, Hey, it'd be a different
Speaker 4: conversation if everybody's like, yeah, I'm out, I don't want
Speaker 4: to go again. You need good attendance, You need a
Speaker 4: good crowd. But I just, I mean, I think there
Speaker 4: was a reason last night there was no I mean,
Speaker 4: it'd be really rich if Pat Kelsey in his first
Speaker 4: postgame press conference to call out the lack of attendance,
Speaker 4: but he would never do that. But he did highlight
Speaker 4: the noise and those that were there, how much they
Speaker 4: were into it whenever you know, this team was draining
Speaker 4: threes and forcing Young Harris to call a time out,
Speaker 4: Like that's the way he should look at it. And
Speaker 4: I'm sure he knows going in that it's been such
Speaker 4: a long time since the Young Center had really good
Speaker 4: crowds for basketball, because you know, the obvious what the
Speaker 4: program has been in a terrible spot, and that's not
Speaker 4: something that you can just expect to have everybody come
Speaker 4: back for when you're playing an exhibition game in October
Speaker 4: against a team nobody's heard of. So that's not you know,
Speaker 4: there wasn't really a I guess the question more so
Speaker 4: is like how to you know, I don't know, I
Speaker 4: mean as far as how we can get to a
Speaker 4: point where you play that exhibition game last night and
Speaker 4: get a crowd of twenty thousand people there or you know,
Speaker 4: not that much, but maybe right around there. Like, I
Speaker 4: don't know if that's possible. I mean, I guess technically
Speaker 4: it's possible, But I think you could be coming.
Speaker 3: Off of.
Speaker 4: A really good debut season for Pat Kelse where they
Speaker 4: made the tournament and got all the way to the
Speaker 4: second weekend. And if in a year from now, they're
Speaker 4: coming off of that successful first season and they're playing
Speaker 4: young Harris again and it's on a Monday night at
Speaker 4: seven o'clock in mid to late October, you'll probably have
Speaker 4: more people there than you did last night. But the
Speaker 4: scenario where with these games you have a full crowd
Speaker 4: or close to it, it's just not realistic and it's
Speaker 4: not needed.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Again, you'd like for everybody to be there, but that's
Speaker 4: not That's just not how it is anymore. And it's
Speaker 4: not just Louisville, like it's not. I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: know what Kentucky's gonna have for their crowd against Wesleyand
Speaker 4: do they play tomorrow?
Speaker 3: I think that's I don't know when.
Speaker 1: I think it is tomorrow.
Speaker 3: It's not tonight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they play soon here coming up in their first exhibition,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure they'll have a decent crowd. I mean,
Speaker 4: it wouldn't shock me. But you know, if there are
Speaker 4: a bunch of empty seats wouldn't shock me either. I
Speaker 4: don't think it means that their fan base isn't pleased
Speaker 4: with with Mark Pope. It's just people, you know, and
Speaker 4: they've had their share of games with a bunch of
Speaker 4: empty seats too. I mean, of all the things we
Speaker 4: do that that's really petty, And that's really what makes
Speaker 4: this rivalry what it is a lot of pettiness. I mean,
Speaker 4: there's there's a lot of things that make it what
Speaker 4: it is. But you know, it's so obvious we make
Speaker 4: fun of our rival for things that we would defend
Speaker 4: our program for I if the shoe was on the
Speaker 4: other foot. And it's so consistent, it's so childish and
Speaker 4: it's so petty. But that's that's what a rivalry is.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's not that I you know, let
Speaker 4: me let me clarify, like I'm not telling you, hey,
Speaker 4: we can we should never talk about attendance.
Speaker 3: But it's just I don't see.
Speaker 4: It as a red flag issue the way a lot
Speaker 4: of other people do. And I just can't relate to
Speaker 4: those that are, you know, their experience as a fan,
Speaker 4: rather it be watching on TV or being at the game,
Speaker 4: if their experience is worse because of some empty seats,
Speaker 4: Like I just again, I you know, I just can't relate.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: If you end up having a really good team this
Speaker 4: year and we get to February and nobody's going to
Speaker 4: games and it's you know, you got ten thousand people there,
Speaker 4: then you know, maybe that is maybe there is a
Speaker 4: conversation to be had as far as like, hey, what's
Speaker 4: going on? Why don't people go anymore? But as far
Speaker 4: as last night, even with all the good stuff going on,
Speaker 4: even with all the momentum with Pat Kelcey, I think
Speaker 4: this fan base is clearly supportive of this guy and
Speaker 4: believes he can get this thing turned around. But that
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that everybody who has that mindset that is
Speaker 4: very supportive and excited, they all didn't have to be
Speaker 4: there last night. I mean, it's that's you know, that's
Speaker 4: the way I see it.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm sure others disagree. All right.
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Speaker 4: football as they try to avoid another loss here on
Speaker 4: the road at Boston College, a game they certainly should win.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's kind of back to that Virginia
Speaker 4: vibe where you don't really have a whole lot to
Speaker 4: gain by winning. But man, a loss would be I mean,
Speaker 4: he'd be the worst law. You'd no longer be able
Speaker 4: to say that everybody that's beach is a good team
Speaker 4: if Boston College beat you, because I don't think they're
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