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Speaker 2: My day's going pretty good. Yeah, No, I'm I was.
I was excited to get the Perk boys together. You know,
it's always a fun time for those that understand that.
Speaker 1: Right now, And yeah, that was a set.
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm joking, but no, I'm I mean, I'm excited
to talk about some trailers. One in particular I was
much anticipated for. And yeah, no, I did I skip
that one. Actually, it's funny because yeah, you you such
of me, you know, off Gast and it's like, yeah,
I don't know if you've seen this yet, but you
might not have to, just uh for what's shown there.
But I didn't even watch it, so there you go.
It works out there. I didn't even see it in
the notes in the show notes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sometimes try to, Like I said, I'll say,
sometimes watch the trailers and whatnot before I send them,
but sometimes they don't and I just don't notification followed
season two trailer here and then I'm watching beforecast. Okay,
I'll talk about it because there's a few other news
bits to talk about, but it's one of these things
where like watching like, okay, there's there's nothing really to
chat about here. So yeah, I tried my best, but
you know, somethings fall, you know, in between the cracks.
Speaker 2: So apologies to the followup fans. Did you like the trail.
Speaker 1: Talking about It's just it's just we'll talk about the trailer,
and the trailer's also.
Speaker 2: It's also now I feel like an asshole because I
haven't watched it, and you're like, you don't have to
watch it, But then now you're like, but we all
got to talk about it, so there's nothing.
Speaker 1: Literally, you'll understand why I'm not gonna talk about now
because you know, for the cutout's going to make sure
it's a specific way. But uh uh Uh, it's going
on right. I'm very tired. Twins had a very bad
sleep last night, and there's this theory that they go
to sleep at seven and not eight. It's not we're
not in for a good night, one of those like
kind of up every single hour. Busy day at work,
which is you know usually works, say but it was
just busy. So yeah, no, I don't Uh, I don't know.
So let's hope all this cast is good staying once
we start talking about a lock in, but definitely on
the days we're like Wolf and when like I said,
when Taylor, when Taylor said, oh mission impossible to night,
I was like, oh, yeah, we got one of those.
So probably between either a line Ricky or Gatoray, it's
gonna get broken out. We'll see. But you know, talking
about some Superman, we're gonna talk about some iron Heart
believe or not. They put a trailer out, we got
some Daredevil news, we got some Spider Man rumors, we
got some other trailers talk about. We got Elder, which
I'm very excitedly talk to you about because last week
that news broke but elan ring but I saved because
it's gonna have nothing to add about this. So, uh, Pats,
do you want to bring up the Superman trailer? I
might drop out for a second because my VPN's on,
so I'm gonna turn it off. We're gonna see what happened.
Speaker 2: I think he's gone. I think he was correct. He
is gonna drop out VPS. I am getting the trailer
ready to go. Here, Travis is gonna be back.
Speaker 1: It happened. It's funny because for the first few seconds
it didn't drop, so like, oh it worked. I'm still here,
but no I am, I'm not here, so yeah, there
you go. So uh yeah, mister Pats are obviously this
is we've had. It's interesting because there's been a big debate.
I've not been a part of the debates because, like
I I've somepost I don't mean to sound frank or
mean or whatever, but like, maybe this is a good
episode to do his bread and butter at some point
like who are the most fickle aka annoying fan bases?
And I think I'm not gonna say DC, but I
think Superman's won in general, Like today when I'm talking
to Emily about like, oh yeah, some people don't like
that they use the theme and some people really hate
the trunks and like, to me, there's a difference, like,
oh yeah, I just prefer no trunks. That's fine. But
the people that argue about it are the people that
are so passionately like you can't use the Williams theme
like that, that's in the past when you're all it's
just like, I forget how many people get worked up
about Superman, probably because Superman was not like a touchstone
of my child he was, don't get me wrong. I
read combooks with them, you know, saw many films with them,
like the animation stuff like Justice League. Don't get me wrong,
Like Superman was a part of my childhood, but he
wasn't like one of my beacons. It wasn't my like
you know, inside out, yeah, inside out. When you have
like the core, I can't remember what it is, it's
like fun Land. But like if you were to do
those with comic book characters or just characters in general,
always it's okay. It's like Batman, you got Marvel, which
is kind of I always put X Men at the top, Wolverine,
Star Wars, and then Wrestling. Those are my four right,
So same thing. I've always said this before. People might
hate me I always have it goes Batman then DC.
You know, to me, the Batman brand is above everything
in DC. And there's a lot I love Flash of
Green Lantern, Constantine's cool. Like DC has a lot of
stuff to offer, but the Batman universe alone. So for me,
I guess it's just like that would be a good
brand better because I know it's that in Star Wars.
We know we got those and stuff. But that's why
for me, oh shit, how did this start?
Speaker 2: This?
Speaker 1: How did this start?
Speaker 2: About the just Superman? You know you're you're not as
pat like diet it.
Speaker 1: Thank you. So there's been a big hubbub because obviously
I fall some people in the circuit because you know,
we we have friends that were more in the Snyder
cut thing, and then people that have tendentially met with them.
People have been on vodka streams, so people that were
like in those trenches, right, And not that they're arguing,
just that I've accumulated some of those people along the way.
And there's been a big hubub about like the marketing
or lack thereof of this movie. And we've gone a
teaser trailer which was a wow that was in December, right, Yeah,
because I wasn't here, and then we got that crypto
scene with Minecraft. But there's been a big thing like
there's no marketing, where is it? And they even hired
like the Barbie campaign person that did that marketing, and
everyone's like, look what bar we had and Superman doesn't
have that. So today this is the technically the first
official trailer, So whatever you make about that. But if
you do look, there's lots of like dairy queen meals
coming up, and they're on the hockey side rings all
this stuff. They're playing under the basketball games. But this
is the first official trailer. Uh, Kirkland, what did you
think of this? We're getting more. We actually got some
dialogue the first trailer alvies that we didn't. Yeah, detail
is right, that's what Superman is. All over the NBA playoffs.
I've heard tonight they play the full trailer, which I
imagine if you're watching playoffs and you don't give a
shit about the Superman like five two and a half
minutes and Superman. But uh, yeah, how'd this do for you?
How you thinking? You know, with an instant news media,
let's do you think this is? I know we'll probably
talk about this overall grand scheme of like is this
gonna help or her it? You think more people are interested,
But yeah, what did you think about this trailer for
off See the big one of the most important DCAK
combo movies of all time. I know it's a bad
pressure put on it, but as we've heard many times,
a little bit different because Minecraft ended up being a
hit and Sinners did, so, I think Warren Brothers in
a better spot. But at beginning the year, we're gonna
reports like, hey, Superman bombs, it's over for Warner Brothers,
you know. So I think now they got some cushion.
Minecraft really saved them, But even then they still want
this to be a big hit. So are you more
or less excited or about the same for July eleventh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I could safely say I'm
more excited. I was already super super hyped for this
big Superman release. I feel like I, although I'm not
in those categories of fans of what you were kind
of mentioning there, I still you know, Superman's a big deal.
He's one of the big pillars of just comic book
characters in general, and I think there's just been a
lot of build up to this, just since James Gunn
personally he's got his little fingers in there, like and
just the whole I was gonna say takeover. That sounds
a little extreme, but if he.
Speaker 1: Asked the Rockers a takeover, I was making black at
him and he came right in asked Henry Cavill to
take over. There's a few people that might describe it
that way.
Speaker 2: And there you go. I'll call it the James gun Takeover.
Then of PC with Peter Peter Saffern. Yeah, I can't
forget him that he's like his crypto to James James Guns.
But you know, I just feel like this is a
big event movie. So for that reason alone, like even
without a trailer, I am super excited for this. But yeah,
I know, I think just seeing some good scenes of
David corn Sweat is that his name, yep, Yeah, just
seeing him actually speaking like on screen as Clark. I
feel like I haven't really seen this chap talk too much,
so it's nice to actually hear him for the first time,
like a full length trailer. There's some things in here
that I really didn't love, Like I really didn't love
the interview sequence between him and Lois, Yeah, I don't know.
It just caught me by surprise. I don't know. I've
only seen the trailer the one time, so that's just
kind of like my initial reaction.
Speaker 1: To promote this episode, I used this image and I
said this was Clark taking simple questions from Lois. It's
a picture of John Oppenheimer being interviewed and when it's
like it goes white room and Jason Clark's like, did
you know about the news? Did you pick Kasake? Like
all that stuff, and that's her. Clark felt like that
for a moment where you know, it's I guess he
thought he's getting some softball questions. But I will say
that's been a point of debate as well. I feel
like I'm more in the camp of liking it, so
I'm interested when we get that trailer part because there's
other people like you that have said like yeah, like
a lot of people say like, oh, it don't feel
like Superman. It's like, I don't know, I've seen I've
seen Superman, Yelle, but I'll maybe that you're in that camp.
Speaker 2: I know we'll see I think I'll enjoy it a
lot more when I get the whole scene it just
seemed like it was chopped up and then it would
go from like him just getting more and more extreme,
and it just it seemed like it was happening really fast.
But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: He's a fucking loose cannon just hate vision.
Speaker 2: Choke slamming her as well. Yeah, by the end of it.
Speaker 1: Hopefully not pulling a Joe Goldberg just speared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think beyond that though, Like I pretty
much liked all the other scenes, seeing some more Nicholas
holt Lex Luthor.
Speaker 1: But Denire's over.
Speaker 2: I had to sit here still a Denier. Yeah, I'm
still not sold on it, but he's still not.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Man, he looks so damn good.
Speaker 2: It looks pretty good, but I don't know. I'm gonna
wait and judge the final product when I actually see,
because like, you don't get a lot of him doing
stuff in this trailer. It's just him just in the
Sanctum Sactorum. I guess it's not doctor Strange whatever it's called.
The Oh, I'm gonna get some flag for thank you
Travis for saving me. But you know, the crypto sequence
was fun. I'm excited to see him popping off, and
I like the moments between Clark Kent and his parents,
So excited to see some more stuff like that. But yeah,
I don't know. It's not a perfect trailer by any means,
but I feel like I got the most excited by
just seeing like the date like a reminder of close
for agatin because this is less than two months away now,
and we got some some juice dropping between now and then.
But I am really excited for this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, this was similar to the Fantastic four trailer
where that both of these movies and luckily who knows
how it goes brave than the world kind of did
what I thought was gonna Thunderbolts was a big surprise.
I didn't have much excitement for that of them. Oh,
I like these characters a lot, but the movie I
was like, Okay, let's see end up loving that. And
then both f four and Superman same thing. Like I
might have a Superman my top five for the most anticipated,
but I always said it was more because the intrigue
of what's gonna do and what it's gonna lay out
for both the universe but then also for our like
film universe, and the teaser for both those, I thought, oh, yeah,
this is this is good. There's things I like, things
I was questioning on, but this, this one really sold me.
I Now here's the thing. And this might sound weird.
I think it's a fantastic trailer. I can maybe even
make the case I'll say top fifteen, maybe not top ten,
but top fifteen for like superhero trailers of all time.
But I don't think this is like indicative of the
movie's gonna be that quality, you know, Like I think
this is like there's a lot of great cut together
stuff here. Visually there's some great stuff and then there's
still some other stuff that's just like, man, it's fucking bright.
It's what we talked about. I can't remember, Oh fuck,
cat's where we're talking about. And last of Us where
there's certain there's that one scene where it's like, why
is this so bright? There's some of this in here
where at the same point it's an aesthetic, right, So
I give it that where where it look this has
a look that anytime in the future, whether it's this
movie or a sequel, if we see an image in
this world, you go, oh, that's James Gunn Superman, right,
the same with Mass Steel. Right, you see an image
form Mass Steel, you know right away that's Zack Snyder.
Where to me, if you look at something like Superman Returns,
it's very much like, okay, they're trying to do Reeve,
but it just it's not there. Reeve doesn't count because
it's like you see that, it's like, okay, that's old film,
like you know it's Chrisopher Reeve. But there's some common
movies that don't have that look right, like in my opinion,
like I like, even though there is some level of brightness,
like if you look at like James Gunn's Suicide Squad,
that's one where it's like, okay, I know because the characters,
but it doesn't have like this distinctle like wow, that's
a quite a look. Same thing like Last Year, which
some people say they come this because it's the same cinematographer.
But like The Flash, right, that has that, but that's
maybe in a negative way where you look at like, oh,
that's from the Flash, you know, cause there's some very
iffy visuals there, or even recently like The Batman, where
there's tons of Marvel movies like MC where you would
know whose style it is it's like it's just like
it's gray. Even Thunderbolts, which I love, there's a lot
of gray in that movie where you're like, not all right,
Like I guess this is a choice, but like it
just it doesn't stand out, especially when a lot of
the MCU stuff is gray. It will be interesting. We
won't get anything this year, but like when we see
a preview for Supergirl or clay Face, like, I'm assuming
they're not all going to have this bright aesthetic in
some of the color grading. But at the same time,
you wanted to be like mc where at semi in
the same world. So I'll be curious what happens here.
But no, I thought this was a great trailer. I
think obviously there's like a it's like an insta hype
when you can use that theme. And I'm in the
ballpark where if they didn't use the old theme, I'm
perfectly fine. I'm not gonna fucking crucify them, and I'm
not gonna crucify them for using it. I am in
the camp where I've said, going forward, they should just
bond this And every time you get a new Superman,
sure he used the same theme, but there's always like
a variation of it. And I think, I think this
is great. This is a situation where Logan has seen
no like she's seen no Superman. She does not know
this theme. She saw that teaser I showed her. She
saw the crypto scene twice because once at home and
then once placed on Minecraft and then this and like
an hour after we'd watch the trailer, she was hum
in the theme that's all like iconic and just the
core and not iconic because she knows that's chrisp Reeve.
It's just like it's just like an easy accessible, like
it sticks with you. It's like a very heroic theme.
And I think they've done a good job of like
modernizing it here. It doesn't like feel out of place
if you just set the Reeve theme and put on here. Yeah,
it feels a little odd, but here it works with
whatever John Marthy's doing. I'm liking the story even though,
and we'll talk about when certain scenes come up and
it's interesting. So, Kirkland, what movie is this from? Superman
goes to a foreign country and does something that pisses
the government off.
Speaker 2: That's Man of Steel BVS, right, Sam saying yeah, And
I was close.
Speaker 1: And appears that that's also this movie too right, where
that's a big crux. What movie Kirkland, is there a
whole spiel belt like what should Superman do?
Speaker 2: Who should be the BBS?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and apparently seems like this movie too right, So
that's what's interesting. Where for me, I'm I'm liking the
visuals and I think acting wise, I'm not like Taylor
and Kurkle. No, Holt's gonna kill Broz and Hand's gonna
kill corn Sweat Like no matter what, even if this
is like a six to seven movie, I think their
performances are gonna be like perfect ten to ten maybe
golden geek stuff like that. No, I suppose we don't
need the pis jar from Lex Luthor. We don't need
that and dsins he's watching five Good Grannity's peacht right.
But my thing is it's what is he gripping with
because this inciting I'm gonna say they're showing us Australia.
The inciting instid seems to be okay, great, he goes
to a different country save somebody, and it's tough because
Superman's from America, but he's not representing America, right, And
that is what happened in BVS where Lex has some plan,
he tricks him, he goes to save Lois, and then
there's a whole government here and Ray and the bomb
goes off the piss jar as s pubbs some about
and then there's this whole montage with God, is it
Holly Hunt, Holly Hunter, who does Invisible Woman? I'm I
think that's who it is, Holly Hunter. But anyway, so
the Congresswoman there, there's a whole montage about like does
the world need a Superman? And it feels like we're
kind of covering similar issues. It just feels like the
Zack Snyder one is the very realistic what would it
be like in our world where this is like the
comic book version of it. I'm just surprised that this
is what's happening directly after. This would be different if
it's like, oh, we've had a couple Superman and now
we're hitting those themes, right. But like I was thinking
about this today, you look at Batman, I'd say, Michael Keaton,
Clooney and Kilmer, they're all very much just like a
we're just doing a superhero thing, right, There's not like
big things. But even Keens I'd say like he's like
a punisher looking for vengeance judgment on bad guys, and
he's just killing guys, right, He's there to just murk
and fuck people up. Christian Bale's Batman, it's all about
saving Gotham because even in Dark Night he's like, Yeah,
I can't wait to fucking not be Gotham. Then you me, Rachel,
we're gonna go. We're gonna make a bunch of babies.
Like the second Batman begins ends, it's like he's on
the trajectory to stop being Batman. So you can't say
that he loves being Batman. He's just doing it for
the city. Byes as Batman was all about, like either
redemption in Justice League when he crossed the line or
it was just kind of being driven to a point
that he's passed. Right, he starts killing criminals, getting more violent,
so you see, like what the war in Tarim Batman
and then Passes to Me is like obsession where he
has no desire to be Bruce Wayne at all, Like
we've seen that movie, right, Like he is to me Passings,
Bruce Wayne's the most fucked up of them all. He
just wants to be Batman all the time. He's no
social skills and he's like his whole thing is like
with Riddler and some of the other cops when he says, oh,
I think he deserved it. He's dealing with the morality
like Christian Bale's Batman. I think would want to kill,
like kill the Joker because he's bad, but he never
feels like he's like a murdering machine, right pass and
joke or passing a bat mean you believe he might
snap and he might start killing people. So that's where
there's all these lines, and it's tough with the Superman
like Christopher Reeve and Bran Raff to me are like
they're just the heroes, right, the hope justice in an
American way, and then Man of Steel and Cavil bvs. Whatever.
That whole thing was dealing with like the more realistic
Superman and what does it mean to like, yeah, you
can go save that country, but what if you do
this and it breaks this law or it goes in
at this political party? And I think there's things about
that that are good. I think some writing in those
series failed that concept, but lots of people didn't like that.
So I was very taken aback when it seems like
it's not even like, oh, when we watch the movie,
that's part of the movie. They're selling the movie on
your choices and what you do and are you going
to be a better person or a good person, even
though that means hurting a bunch of people around you,
or hurting your image, or you know, even going against
certain political parties in a way, like I think it's
an algory for that. So I'm very surprised. But I
will shout out, you know, friends, the show his wife's
been on many times, he's been on, and I share
this tweet to you guys with seem Coleberry tweet out
something today where there's the two scenes and it's Metropolis
being attacked right, and in BVS it's a very like
nine to eleven situation where the guy's like praying and
he's very solemn and depressed. And then to the right
there's I can't remember the character's name, but there's some
guy attacking a building and it's like coming down and
then she's like has a phone on, like do it
as self and we'll get there, right. I'm not saying
one is better than the other. I definitely probably lean
more towards the more serious route, but at the same time,
I get what they're going for, right, where they want
to maybe have those big adventures and have it more
accessible with the mainstream. And I'm not saying again people
would do that. There's social media people that would just
there's a fucking of nine to eleven and happen to
be taking anything right. But I think that's I guess
the difference where it feels like they're gonna be tackling
similar issues and themes. Even then Lois knows Superman is Clark, right,
that's in BVS. Lowis nos Superman is Clark. They have
these same conversations about like how far you should go
and what you should do is Superman. So it's it
just feels like there's gonna be similarities. But Saxony is
the very realistic, dark and gritty and this is the
like poppy comic bookie where yeah, you couldn't just have
somebody taken a selfie while there's like hundreds of people
being massacred. And that's what I mean, like, I need
to see this in the movie, but I I want
to see what else there is because if this is it,
I feel like it's kind I'm not gonna say safe,
because I think they're right things to tackle, but it
feels like not as much as a difference of as
I was maybe wanting. And I'm not even saying like, oh,
like this could be bad movie, it could still be good.
I'm just that's not what I thought we were kind
of going for directly right now. So I'm not sure
I ran on a bit there, But if you have
any thoughts on there's some similarities but just very different
obviously package they're in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's totally fair. I feel like for me
it didn't stand out as much because to me, I
just kind of see those as like main main points
of Superman's just story like in general of just like
like you have this godlike figure and of course he
lands in America, but like he's not America's weapon, and
like like I feel like that's obviously wasn't like a
main point of like the Christopher Reeve Superman or or
just like other versions of it more so to like
the recent bvs x Snyder event there. But I still
just see that being like a really really like I
feel like if you don't have that argument, I would
I feel like we would be missing out on something
like like do we just have this this character who's
just we never talk about like the political implications of
just just this godlike figure who's just you know, intervening
with international war events and stuff like that. So I
see where you're coming from. I don't know. I feel
like it didn't bother me too much, but I can me.
Speaker 1: I didn't look at this big oh we're screwed. I
just looked as like just similar.
Speaker 2: To to what just happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's
very fair. And then in terms of like lois like
like knowing Clark already and that being something that's I mean,
like come on that, Like I I assume that that
really that revelation would have happened at some point in
the film, so to get it in the trailer, I'm
I'm totally fine with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm fine. We don't need to do like
every Christopher Reeve movie had she didn't know right and
then she she did, she got her mind wipe. So
I'm fine in this day and age, especially if you
want to do the whole there's no origin and you
want to have them in love like you can't have
a situation where she's like even boning Clark Knton and like,
I don't know that Superman, so like I prefer that
because I think that's a whole that's a whole different
movie which we don't need to retread. But it is
just like that idea of there. And don't get me wrong,
I want I want that from los Lane. I don't
want her just be like, oh gee, Superman, come save me.
Like I like that she was pressing forward. I just
was caught off guard that it's, you know, directly similar
themes in the very next Superman movie again, you know,
And like I said, we'll see what happens. And I
feel I think that's not so much for the general
audience because I think they're gonna make it more palpable
for them, But I feel like for big time comic fans,
I feel like that's a risky wire for James Gunn
to walk on because I don't know if he's gonna
get as deep as it as Zach and crew. And
don't be ever me wrong again, I think there's some
things with that that they didn't pull off correctly, right,
But like I feel like though that was the big
theme in those movies, and they did take a lot
of time where I also don't want them just to
touch on these themes but then don't really get into them.
But at the same time, I don't want them to
cover the exact same round. I really I it's interesting
how we're gonna go. And I don't know, because at
least with Lex, he looks like he's gonna be completely different.
I feel like they're gonna be touching on like a
lot of like Elon Musk trump isms, you know, like
that's a popular thing now with like very rich characters.
And I don't know, because this is trailer. I've seen it.
Combat it if he's the president or not cool to
get to. But at one point they say the president,
they cut to him. I'm like, to me, that means
he's the president, and like, if he's the president, yeah,
to me, that's how I took it. And if he's
a president, that's another like direct like Trump kind of allegory, right,
which we got a lot of those going on. So
super Mike says, reminds me of the comic story where
he renounces his American citizenship to become a symbol of
all earth. I agree, but I don't think there's a
shot that happens in this movie that he literally gets
on a stand and says, I'm not an American, because
that is I just think that creates a shit storm
they don't want I would love it, that'd be super bold,
But I just feel like they in today's day and
age red Eye, thumbnails you gonna to president especially he
has all his friends with Trump, Like I just I
know people might be like, oh, that's separate. It's really not.
It's not when you have like the tariffs being talked about,
and Trump has a Hollywood division with fucking John Voight
and Sylvester Stallone, you know, people that are just putting
out massive hits right now. Right Like that's the thing
where it's just like I don't know if they're gonna
have Superman renounce he's American. I could see him doing
something like that, but like, like, I'm not just American,
I'm he can't say I'm I'm Japanese, but like say
something like its.
Speaker 2: Just the credits, that's like the last shot of the movie.
Speaker 1: I'm Japaneseman. Each country gets a different version of it.
I'm German and then something bad happens, But like, no
I think what you could do is instead of him
renouncing America, he like accepts all of the world and
just like I represent everybody, you know. So that's what
I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, and then that would be something different than
you know, the recent iteration.
Speaker 1: Because they talk about that. That's one thing, like it's funny,
Like I don't think that political stuff is really INBVS
like it is, but it's they get more into it's funny.
Zack Snyer covered more of that and Watchman about like
document hann being American, right and being like, you know,
God is real and God is American. That's a very
like off see al Moore wrote that line or like
other people as well too, but like that got more
into the idea of what happens as Superman is American
a gods. I don't think really I did the American
stuff too much. They touch upon it is more about like, oh,
him being you know, just a god figure. But let's
see here we'll talk about these questions first because just
in case we talk they come up here quickly. They've
given him to you. But I'm sorry, Maddie Saggs right.
Some thoughts on Superman tray looked awesome. I also love
the first teaser we got. I'm someone who's like Superman films,
but I still't have that one I love. I'm hoping
this cann be the first. All that I ask is
how concerned are you about the ideas to set up
a new cinematic universe that actually hurts this film? Everything
looks awesome me, but my favorite stuff seems to be
the most between close and Lark and anticipating in the
eventual friction they'll have a lex. Those three characters are
what interests me, and I'm just hoping we get a
great Superman film story and the three in the center
of it. But I can't help being a little concerned
about the introduction and estabish of the new characters in
the universe. What do you think? And obviously it's been
a big hubbub since this has happened, right because it's like, oh,
you're getting a green lantern and a hawk girl. You know,
I'll shout out to fucking Dina there. Yeah, I'll go first.
Because I said this in the discord, and I've said
this a few times, I'm not worried as of right
now because the pro of this is James Gunn special
these ownensembles, and I really don't think. I think seeing
these superheroes, which apparently there's a rumor their name is
a Justice Gang, because it's like they have a J
and a G in their logo, that's fucking awful. Like
James Gunn, whoever wrote that, like go back to like which.
Speaker 2: It just so force would be better.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. I'll see if we've seen the trailer,
but the logos like a J and a G put
together and some person called them out on threads and
he's like, no, it's not meant to be my initials
and everything like that. I just it's just it's like,
don't respond to these people. Jane's Gunn. But I think
if you look at Guardians Too, Guardian's three those are
examples of that. Those are so many characters. Look at
someone like Sylvester stalloone and Guardians Too. He has two
he's three scenes. He's a scene where he bitches Yondo
off about like kidnapping those kids. He shows Yandro's funeral
and then there's a fun endcred scene. But you still
got like moments and you're understood, like Sylvester Stallone's character
served a purpose for yondu. I think these characters, like
all of them together, I think they have a maximum
of fifteen minutes if that. Like, I really don't thing
is that. I think they're stretching this out just to
be like, hey, there is a bigger universe. But I
I just I'm not worried about because that is what
A Gun's specialties is jumbling a bunch of characters. And
I think Gun knows, like the main character is Superman.
But then I think he knows Lois and Nicholas Holt
like Lex have to be B and C. Like I'm
that just doesn't worry me. I don't think it's gonna
be a situation where like man, they really took away
from the movie. I think it's gonna be like a
segment or two. You know.
Speaker 2: That's my Yeah, I think I'm with you there. Just
judging from what we got on the trailer, I like
when it was happening, I kind of forgot about how
many other characters are in this and then just judging
on yeah, like there wasn't a lot of sequences of
them all grouped together. So I think I'm there with
you that it really won't be that much of them
all together at once. I'm hoping to just kind of
fully enjoy all of them for their little usage, just
so I can be like, yeah, I looking forward to
seeing more of these characters, but uh, yeah, I with
everything that's going on with yeah, like the political situation
with Superman Crypto Lex uh, and then just balancing the
Clerk and Superman dynamic, I think that'll be a lot
more with the focus of the film versus everyone else.
But uh, it was cool to finally see him here.
And then Buddy whatever his name is, the green lantern
with the funny haircuty.
Speaker 1: Gardener Nathan Nathan Fielder, Fuck Nathan and Fillyan.
Speaker 2: I always get those two mixed up Fielder and feel.
Speaker 1: That would be something. I'd love Nathan Fielder as a
fucking green lantern. But all right, let's take our first
ad breaking the Maria Polist trailer and break it down.
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pol upset. We talked about some stuff, so if we've
already hit up on it, we don't need to.
Speaker 2: So here we go. Are you being serious? Subtitles perfect?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd let me interview you as Superman, but you.
Speaker 1: Can pause here. Supposedly the auditions between all the Clark
and Lowis' is were this scene. I don't know if
it's gonna be that like as long. The rumor was
it was like a twelve minute scene, which I actually
wouldn't mind if you tell me, Hey, this is a
twelve minute scene, which to your thoughts when you're like, oh,
it's kind of all quick together and like some of
the actions, I think if this is twelve minutes, it'll
play a lot better. And even though I like it,
because I feel like someone might say, like, oh, Superman's
kind of stupid, why do you get so worked up?
Like wouldn't you think Lowis would ask him these questions?
But one like Superman is kind of I don't know,
like I say, he's dumb, but he's kind of a
boy scout, so he kind of I think I was
always as a pause of outlook. And two, I think
he might think that because Lois is in love with him,
even if she was interviewing Superman, she might kind of
like soft bomb a little bit. But he's probably a
little disappointed that there's all these people around the world
that are saying probably bad shit about him, and not
that Lois agrees with it, but the fact that she's
kind of echoing that must kind of hurt him. So
that's where I think, I hope this is a longer scene.
But yeah, supposedly this is a scene where they how
these two and all the other actresses and actress that
didn't get the role, how they auditioned for it.
Speaker 3: So Reddy Stuart Cronkite, I like that Superman miss Lane.
Speaker 1: Can you go back and play the miss Lane again?
What's this guy? Okay one more time before he says
miss Lane, just close your eyes and hear it and
pretend that Glenn Glenn Powell is playing Superman because he
sounds exactly like Glenn Powell and Theronkite hit it.
Speaker 3: Superman miss Lane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking that's Glenn all right there. He picked up
his accent from fucking Twister. So I can can't secretary
to see that ten thousand times before we see that.
Speaker 2: Can That's funny? My actions? I stopped a war.
Speaker 1: Stopped agle, not maybe in effect you illegally?
Speaker 2: Who's this guy?
Speaker 1: Uh? That's Ultraman? All same, I'd say, don't ask questions
around him. Yeah, I'd say don't ask questions. I think
there's gonna be some more deals with that character that
people don't get up there. For me, I love thee
go back to like he's standing up, so he's getting
worked up, but like already korns, but is like he's
a pretty big guy compared to her.
Speaker 2: Like looking down on her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's already looking down on her when they're sitting.
He's standing up, he's like looking off a cliff at her,
like he's a he's a big boy again, tall Superman
we've ever got, and he's like six or five or something,
so he's gonna look fucking massive. But it's just so fun,
like he has to like stand up. But again, maybe
he's just insecure, right, we don't it's not the origin.
But we also don't know how long he's been Superman.
He's still might be relatively new.
Speaker 2: So yeah, true, But like again, like twenty seconds ago
they started the interview, so it just seemed like we
were really missing some some main substance of this interview.
So I am hopeful that we have a twelve minute piece.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, you know, because Blow starts talking to him
and he just hits shut up.
Speaker 4: The President did in effect, you illegally entered.
Speaker 1: I'm not the one being interviews. Did you consult with
the presidents? Like to me, if he's not the president,
whoever had this trailer? I don't say it deserves be fire,
but at least deserves like a talking to of like
very misdirection. Now, Also we live in the age where
they show the Hulk in the Infinity War trailer fighting
Fantals around the Fanals, and he's not in it right,
so of course could not be that. But I think,
like lex as president, something they've done in the comic book,
I think with the allegory, remember James is a guy
that got fired because he pissed off the right wingers
and they're like, let's go find his old tweets, and
they did, and then he got fired from Marble, like
we know where he stands. And it's it is in
so much media, whether you like it or not, as
far as like the representation of president or government, prime
minister or whatever in power that's going to use power.
But I think for me, the reason I wouldn't mind
it here is also we're gonna law that. But if
we have a guy with tons of power. And then
also the President. I think it makes it harder for
Superman to take down, and it would likely to me
hope that I don't want Lex Luthor caught at the
end of this movie. You know, it's not a people
think he's shady, but I don't want him be in prison.
I don't want him to be you know, I want
them kind of be like kingdin wasn't you know, might
I suppose for Daredevil borning in season one where it's
ramping up, because I imagine Holt's going to be around
for quite a while. So it's like, I feel like
we have plenty of opportunity to catch him, So I'm
kind of hoping this would mean, like, okay, even he
does something like our president, like the President America is
a fucking felon. You know, he's been found guilty and stuff,
but it doesn't matter. Because you're the president. You can
do a lot of things. So I'm down for a Lex,
but I imagine that's what it has to be. But
I love the smug, arrogant look Holt has going on
right now.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, he reminds me of here is
Uh Emperor Drug, Emperor Drugue. You know, he's got more
of a a smirk going on that similar stance.
Speaker 1: Just like him and Christopher Reeve are the same height,
are they? I thought he was a little taller, but
if not, obviously Reeve was a big boy as well too.
So yeah, seemingly acting as a representative.
Speaker 2: Oh yea, he's getting here again. I was going like
full Joe Joe Goldberg. Here, he's gonna get pretty extreme
and more doing Lois's apartment.
Speaker 1: That's right here. You know what the idea of, like
you said, how it escalates. Do you like the idea
of the trailer being kind of for the most part
set around this one scene where it's you know, they
say one thing and that leads to another. Uh Lois
Lane dies in freak accident.
Speaker 2: Yes, because it makes me think that there's a lot
more to that scene, like overall, like I'm a lot
more on the side of believing that it is more
to like the twelve minute uh just time frame. So yeah,
because I just just for what we're getting, it looks
like it's gonna be a really like powerful scene. I
I think it's just the way that it's chopped up.
I guess it's it's warming up on me. The more
that we're going through this trailer here, but yeah, just
just for viewing it, it just seems like, what the fuck
is wrong with this guy? He's just getting so heated
but and doing good child.
Speaker 1: I would question myself in the same situation with people
were going to die Juggernaut from there. I like that
shot actually, and I do things fun I gotta say, yeah,
I gotta send this to Dylan because I don't think
you've seen this. I don't know why, but ever since
fucking Cyborg said Superman in the like the Joss Whedon
cut like every character and the stupents Superman. But I
remember before we got the trailer and they said, oh,
we like to top gun Maverick, and we want the
flying look like that. I'm not saying everything's gonna look good,
but if you go back to the scene of him tumbling,
I really like the look of that eye because I
like it's like it feels like you are there with them.
That's a hard thing to Kirkle loves that building falling down.
This right here, Oh yeah, yeah, I like that. And
I think a lot of these scenes suit which is
so funny, like this streets already bright, but that's that
shows helps bright the suit is because it still wops
in this situation where like, like, fuck, look at that
guy's shirt. You can't see any designs on. Like that's
a bright fucking shot right there. I'm saying this in
like a negative way, like that's that contrast quite high,
but the suit is like a flat Yes it does.
Or Souperman's been flashbanged and this is he's looking like,
and or in the finale last night, you know.
Speaker 2: The door opened. Yeah, I do love the look of
the suit. Honestly, I feel like it's grown on me
a lot more like even though it looks a little baggy,
like like a little it's not even baggy. It's just
like a little loose around the arms and stuff. I
don't know. I'm I'm warmed up all low to it.
And I love the color pop it just yeah, it
stands out in this white background that we have, so like.
Speaker 1: I supposed might be like you condensing a twelve minute
scene into a minute where he's just pissed instantly. I
think the reason they did that because I don't agree
with this completely, but I've seen a lot of because
you know, again talk about the turf wars. I've seen
a lot of people on the other side that don't
like the Zack Snyner films that have been bagging on
that film using this as like, man, we got a
Superman with the personality, right, because that's what Carol did
call's very stoic and when he talked, he was very
you know, he had a a cadence about him that
didn't break. He rarely got He rarely showed big bursts
of emotions, right, So I think this is them trying
to show like, hey, again what I was saying, lots
of themes might be similar, but this our Superman's different.
He is a bit more like like, I know it
gets mean to palm, I'm one way or another, but
like when Stuerman's in the court and the bomb goes
off and then when they go back to Sumn, he's
just standing there like crying, like just just no show nothing.
It's fine. I'm not I'm not four against it, like
I think it's you know, pearls and cons. But I
think they're showing. I think Gun's trying to show like
my Superman wouldn't be that. My Superman would be like
super fucking emotional, like if he's a funny.
Speaker 2: This is Gun Superman.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's freaking any next in this
movie either. I think that's one thing. But I think
that's why they showed him getting upset at Lois is
one to show some drama there, but two to show
he's going to That's how he's a different Superman. He's
gonna have his heart way more on his sleeve, you know.
Speaker 2: And agrees with you there, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think we talked about this when we
first saw the images of him as Clark. This to
me very much in Vokes. Doesn't look like it's gonna
be as powerful as a scene, but this is very Toby.
Spider Man, two civilians, even Spider Man. One civilian's helping
out the hero, right, and that's where they're doing this.
And that's where one thing we said, hey, I'd be
down for if you can capture, you know, some of
that cheesiness of the Toe MacGuire movies, but try to
refine it. I think Gun can do that. And I
do like the idea of because Metropolis has to be
a character itself, and if you can make the people
like Superman's a fucking god, this random guy shouldn't be
helping hm up, but he is right because like he
believes them, and Superman's taking help. So I think there
that's to me with this invoked, was like, oh yeah,
this feels like Toby spider Man, and that to me
is a major pro because I I think Superman kind
of can't have that cheese. You know, if any character
can have that cheese, I think it's spider Man, like
with Hall Dune stuff, and I think Superman. You know,
I wouldn't want this from Batman, but you know, I
think it works here.
Speaker 2: So yeah, no, I totally agree.
Speaker 1: Oh and you hear that transition theme.
Speaker 2: Right there, I'm sorry, that's Superman right there, these flying scenes.
Speaker 1: The combo of be like, yeah, hey, eyes are up there.
That for me feels like animated Superman. Love that. And
then yeah when he again another flying shot, I love this.
This looked great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and normally I like hate these super bright seat just.
Speaker 1: Again that sun that sent his barren down on us.
Speaker 2: Right, this is a full flash bang grenade going.
Speaker 1: When you see this movie, they're gonna recommend you put
sunscreen lotion on, you know, just.
Speaker 2: Going in sunglasses, not three D. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we're
gonna be looking like Oppenheimer, and both.
Speaker 1: The way is details sound effects are awesome. Yet I agreed,
use the engineer just fucking ship up. So also we
know plot point. Look, that's fucking that's aura right there,
kirkle Patzer.
Speaker 2: That's filling right there.
Speaker 1: That's that's great. He should like there should be a
fucking bomble. But uh, also you know a plot point.
Who knows what happens. But Lex is gonna find the fortress, which.
Speaker 2: He always does. We knew it was gonna almost in
every movie.
Speaker 1: Right, Hackman finds it, Spacey finds it, even because there's
no Fortress of Solitude Rellian cattles, but he finds that,
like he goes into the ship where all of supermin
sh it is. So it's like every single movie, Legs
finds the fortress. So part for the chorus, I guess,
yeah fortress, did you? I still want I think it
looks gray to me. Yeah, some highji action for Taylor.
Speaker 2: This shot. You know this is still there. I know
it's still in your somefwhere.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I still really want to know what's going
on in this scene if they just banged it out,
because this is the scene where they're talking and you
know something's going on in the background. Again, it's like,
no one knows what this is, and I don't agree,
but it is something where it is like if it
is a threat, like him and Lowis are taking their
sweet time, so we'll see what happens. I've liked the
theory is where it's actually like Green Lantern people like
doing clean up, like using superpowers, like clean up some
sort of disaster. That's fine because Astrea Man can help.
But later, but if it is like fucking lex Is
popping off with some wormhol destroyment or Cropolis, and he's
just like, yeah, I did like when you did that
thing to be on our second date, you know. Yeah, yeah,
it looks like a lot of those last Oh it's
coming up on the seemingly confirms that this superman can
save his dad from tornado, So that's good. I'm really
excited about it. Seems like both his parents are alive
in this, so sure, why not.
Speaker 2: I love this jacket. Yeah, I don't know about the mask,
but uh, just the colors on the jacket look like
I've never.
Speaker 1: Been a fan of mister Trevik's mask. I think it's
just it's just it's an awkward look. It's a look
that I think only looks cool in comic books, and
even then I don't know, but uh yeah, Jackal was
cool obviously, lots of tech popping off. So yeah, super Man,
my eyes are fucking piercing. Man.
Speaker 2: Who were these individuals? I didn't really know.
Speaker 1: That's been a morpho back there. He some of them
might join the Justice Gang or whatever. But he can,
like I think, change his body in the different elements
and shapes, and I think people will theorize that his
left hand is kryptonite right there, and that's how he's
helping out these people that look like Master Chief.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then this is probably what Sewan gunn.
Are you here?
Speaker 1: Oh of course? Yeah yeah. And there's his wife on
the right to.
Speaker 2: A different character. Hey, I think I would get points
for that. I think I still have your draft.
Speaker 1: I think you do. Yeah, he's an it. That's one
thing if you go back with the suit being as bright.
It's a shot where he's coming up, there's like a
bunch of like dirt or tornado, and you can just
see it. That looks great. I want to make them
a thumbnail, but it's still too small. But yeah, I'm
there's some good or like God, Superman prayer, what should
you want them? Superman? Right? You want to feel larger
than life? And uh yeah. And the I'm wondering what's
gonna happen with the Lex Luthor stuff because I feel
like Lex has always in the movies, at least not
talking Tom books, he's hated Superman because of his power
or because he gets in the way, or even Eisenberg's
it's like a god, like people look at him as
a god, right Luther in this movie describing as an it,
not a person or not a he is very interesting.
It can evoke a lot of things that go on
today with like sexual orientation. I don't know if they're
gonna go that far. I don't think they're going to,
but I think there might be some algories you could
draw to it, just him like kind of saying he's
lesser than a person, or even just some immigration stuff, right,
Like he's like calling him an it. Like to me
that like some it's a simple line, but it's like,
oh that's fucking that's.
Speaker 2: Like grading in a way, right the human Absolutely, yes,
So I took it like he's just like an alien
like he just doesn't belong here, like like we can't
allow this individual to be here. And then yeah, just
just on this shot, this is like something where before
we being off the trailer. This is why I was
so hyped for this movie of it just being a
cinematic experience and like I'm expecting this shot to just
you know, hit on the big screen with the brand
new projector at the extreme theater here.
Speaker 1: On the after he destroyed Lewis's house. Yeah, yeah, no
one questions Superman. I look at his eyes. Man Whole's
eyes are fucking blue. They gotta be like on his
entire Worlds conversation, they gotta be in hants some way.
The contacts are inhances. So he's looking like Brandon Ralph
and Friend Ralph and Super returned. But yeah, I'm excited
for Hole. He's gonna steal this movie. I think I
know it's gear, but like, mister Terrific kind of looks
lame there in my opinion. You got Howker who can fly,
You got Green Lantern who can like float and project
himself with the ring. You know, mister Terrific in like
his techic like chair.
Speaker 2: It's like this game chair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost like a sex chair. Actually, the way his
cross is just like spread out like that, it looks
like it's for pleasure. But still it looks it looks
a little I wouldn't have had.
Speaker 2: Him there in my opinion, like the gynecologist, see, you
know with the ready mister t Yeah, I will not.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for that scene except that nextas going
through it in this movie. So I wonder do you
think that means? Because people would speculate this auto, there's
been different origins as far as where the suit is,
I'm guessing this means the suit's homemade, right, It's not
like a Kryptonian anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be my guess.
Speaker 1: Just way I cleaned your boots, I guess you could
clean her that you like if it came from Krypton. Sure,
But like you know, and I think there's something about
the Supman with them trying to make the more like
a man the people would make sense of, like oh, yeah,
like him, his mom made him this suit, right or
something to that equivalent.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then it makes me hopeful that maybe
we'll see a different version of the suit, like an
early prototype, because I'm always a sucker for different creations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get it, especially if you get two Injustice
League and everything. So I think this kind you see,
it's gonna be lots of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kiss and pop them off.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love this game.
Speaker 1: I like the musage and this was intriguing. When he
goes up, I think, like Town, I don't know what
the fuck that means.
Speaker 2: It's not the way Weir would end it because it's
like super hopeful, like yeah, everyone is too like.
Speaker 1: Usually you usually do that, and then like the dark
music beat happens, but it's it's like the last show
of the movie. He's like dead, you know, So you
have a dog.
Speaker 2: Man Crypto is gonna do so well for just toys
and merch and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Toys merch, I think that's going to getting the kids.
I think with this train that was smart because I
feel like a lot of people recently start doing too
much with Crypto. I think, you know, Crypto's gonna be
in there a little amount, but like and again that's
something where it's like we've never got a Superman movie
with Crypto. The dog look right, So it's just like
that's to me where it's like I'm not as long
as it's not completely awful humor, and usually James couns
good with the animal stuff. It's like, that's something I
would lean on because that does set you apart from
different versions. Is this whether you like it or not,
because oh it's cheesy the dog in the cap. But
it's just like again, I think this movie is leaning
into some more that that cheese. So yeah, details of
those kind of Spiderman like yeah, and then super Bad Mike.
Super Bad Mike says mister mister terrific is cataontically one
of the three smart human beings DCUs. So he's got
that going for him. Oh yeah, he's super smart. I
would try to start. I just don't want to send
his chairs, like what are you doing to me? So yeah,
anything else in this trailer.
Speaker 2: Uh no, No, I like to going through it again,
so hopefully that makes it just uh good signs of
things to come. I am super excited for this film.
It's been a long time coming, and uh excited to
see you just a full film of David Corn sweat
because I don't think that's happened to me yet.
Speaker 1: I haven't twister he's Oh yeah, and you watched did
you watch Pearl.
Speaker 2: Oh is he the movie guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's projections that that transl like dumper and he
realizes she's fucked up and it doesn't know his way.
So yeah, he's popped up here in there, you know. Yeah, So,
and I recommend everybody. I can't remember what the movie's called. Fuck,
it's him and Lucy Boynton. It's a movie where she
can travel back in time using music. And it's not
a big spoiler. It happens in the first five minutes
they were together and he dies, so she's like traveling back,
like reliving the moment she had with him.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, who's in this one?
Speaker 1: Is it Lucy? No, it's Lucy Poynton. It's she was
from Bohemian rap City. You've seen her in other stuff.
Speaker 2: It's like called she just watched this movie.
Speaker 1: It's called like the Greatest Song or the Greatest Playlist
or something like that. But I think it's a cute,
good movie, and he's he's pretty charismatic, and I really enjoyed.
It's a fun comedy romance that's kind of unique, kind
of i'd say, like a Lesser about Time kind of
like that, but still well done. So yeah, so yeah, no,
I'm excited to see July. I think it's gonna be
a very fun review and everything from the movie side
to the business side can't wait to see what happens here.
And yeah, Superman review coming in just to under two months.
Like you said, Curkle, that's kind of nuts when you
think about it. So we will see. You know what
else we're gonna be seeing Ironheart Maybe I don't know,
we're gonna take an abring. We'll find out. We'll be
right back and we're back. So you know, it's funny.
Last time we cast Kirkling, I was talking, I think
it was maybe last times when now we're like, oh yeah,
the Ironheart has set the record for the shortest amount
of time between an MSU project releasing and a trailer
coming out, which you know obviously still the record. I
think it's like just under forty days, orse forty days,
and then you know, I think it was Monday, maybe Sunday.
It was known like, hey, Superman chaw is coming Wednesday,
because I messaged you, Kirkle and I was like, yeah,
if you can move Wednesday, let's do it. So Marvel
and ms you they knew like, oh yeah, Superman's dropping
on Wednesday. And this is to the point where in
our chat usually we share news whatnot. Uh, nobody shared
the Ironheart trailer and Chris message. We have a Marvel
line shot with me, Chris, Brent, and David the new
host and host of the Gimmick. Check out the Gimmick.
I should promote that Gimmick new episode this Saturday with
the boys because I'm busy with Emily's birthday and we
got a barcue going on. So they're doing the podcast.
But then very excited. Season two of GM mode starts
weeks one to five. Very excited. Yeah, every room Lucky
for him. We're starting over so the seasons because there's
new DLC and new stuff they added, so we're gonna
start over and start the same fan but uh, yeah,
I'm I'm excited, but yeah, check out every month. Starting now,
we're gonna do an hour and a half stream of
gmode and do the weeks one to five. But anyway,
so we were like, oh, that's really dumb from the
put a trailer saying Chris he's busy, you know, fucking
he's a principal and the school year, and he's like, oh,
I get probably you know Ifano my man here, but
he's like, oh, I guess they were smart. They didn't
drop that, Like oh no, they still dropped it. And
I even went back in our discord like no one
dropped it. This is not indicative of the quality of
the trailer. It's just indicative of like there's been very
little promotion for Ironheart, and it's just like the day
you're gonna drop the trailers the same day a superhero
where this didn't even make a blip on the radar,
like talk or like the biggest thing I've seen joked
about because Mike brought it up. God, I know his
real name, Dave. I was gonna call him film junkie.
I know he's back. Just you know, that's a SuperH
own name. I know him personally, but he's same thing
as making the jokes. Like the most people I have
talked about is they're priewing this using Coogler's name all over.
Like you see the Ironheart poster, it's like Ironheart produced
by Ryan fucking Coogler, you know, like in the sneak
peak yesterday it was Ryan Cougler and like, yeah, he
is producing this, but like I don't think he directed episodes.
I don't think he wrote episodes. He's just like producing,
which is still gonna be a big role, right, But
it just feels like this. It feels mean to say,
but it feels like the show's kind of dead on arrival.
And I also, I think I said the City last
week where it's just like I think there's a sense
of like, I don't know if I'm ever gonna see
this character ever again after this, you know, And I
think like Marvel knows that, I think we all know
that there's just like a sense of like is this
really like an actual thing, Like are you getting behind
this or are we just waiting five more years and
you're gonna recast iron Man and we're back, right. I
thought this trailer was like good, but like didn't get
me overly excited. I don't think Ironheart needed a direct
spin off right after Black Panther. I just I'm not
excited for this for the real word stuff, but also
for the trailer. It's like, yeah, it just looks like
General Fair. Who knows. I end up really liking Agatha
and obviously Thunderbolts. Like the trailers. I didn't think we
were bad, but they didn't make me super excited, so
maybe this can be that again where my low expectations
can do that. They did reveal that they're dropping the
first three episodes week one, and then the last wee
will go weekly, which I'm kind of happy with because
even here to behind the fourth Wall a geek for us,
we were like, oh, are we gonna review all of
Ironheart or it is just gonna be like a cutout,
because like, I don't know how this show's gonna do.
But with it only being four weeks, like, okay, we
can record retros and stuff around it. So yeah, I know,
if they are trying to promote this, not a good
day to drop this. They shouldn't have dropped this during Superman.
But I thought the trailer was good but didn't didn't
get me less or more excited, just like, yeah, this
is the thing that's happening. I like the actress that
plays Dominic. I think her name is Dominic Thorne or
something like that. I like her. I like Anthony Ramos,
who you know is the bad guy. It twisters again,
ya Ald Aaron Reich. I'm liking more and more as
the years go on, Like he was great and fair
play I really liked him in Oppenheimer, so obviously he's
gone past the black hole that was Solo. But this
did nothing for me as far as moving the meter.
I guess the only thing can say is like, at
least it didn't look awful. That's yeah, I can say.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I think I'm right there with you.
This trailer reminded me of Miss Marvel, and there was
some good stuff in Miss Marvel. I think like the
best thing I could like get out of that comparison
would be I really loved Amon's like performance of Kamala,
and I I did like iron Heart like small appearance
in Wakata Forever. So from what I saw here, there
wasn't any like red flags around the character itself. So
I'm hoping I can just at least enjoy the character
and just kind of the adventure surrounding her. That's kind
of like my best case expectation, and if it's anything
better than that, I think that's a win for sure.
But yeah, it just had it had a certain because yeah,
I think I agree with you. I don't think it's
a bad trailer, but it just had a certain something
to it where it's funny, we're just talking about like
the brightness what the Superman trailer had, Like this had
like a filter on it. But I can't pin on
what it is, but it just in my mind it
makes me think of Miss Marvel, which I didn't think
looked bad like going into it. Obviously, I think it
like steep decline as the season was going on in quality.
I think it just got worse and worse. But I
was at least sold on the trailer, and the trailer
just seems to be that quality, so hopefully it's it's
better than what we got there. And yeah, I wasn't
treat by the villain because the Hood has been just
a big mystery I think since uh.
Speaker 1: Great character. Sorry, great what if episode. I wasn't there
for that review, but that was good stuff there.
Speaker 2: Great Marvel snap card. So I have high expectations for
this character. And I kind of forgot he was the
Hood until he is the obvious Hood on and he's
shooting his gun there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I see down below me. You have the trailer.
Is there something you want to watch from the trailer?
Speaker 2: Just Ryan Coogler, I just wanted to do in case
you missed that. Yeah, he's a big part of this.
Speaker 1: It's a big part of you played me, won't. But
I don't think I have anything specifically.
Speaker 2: I just assumed because the note said iron Heart breakdown,
you know, but I guess it dad.
Speaker 1: But that was before I watched this trail like an
hour ago.
Speaker 2: You know what it's been demoted. It's it's walking the plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like we're talking about it. Plot is okay, she
wants to make some of the iconic. She's getting involved
the hood, who's gonn turn into a life of crime.
She's gonna realize, hey, I shouldn't be doing this, and
then Thedod's gonna like, I don't like that, and then
she's they're gonna fight, and that's what's gonna happen. And
then the only thing I think we've talked most before
Golden there and Rech is like rumored to be playing
Obadiah staying Sun, which is kind of funny because like, okay,
like you know, they look enough like what I was,
we'll see what happened. So has a trailer back up,
like they go they do this whole thing right where
she goes down to this guy's basement and there's all
these weapons and they're kind of making jokes and everythings
like this. I don't know what the fuck's going on.
I've said this for years. They brought back for what if?
Why is this character not justin Hammer? Why is she
not talking to joke? Because the whole joke, I feel
like he's like no, no, no no at the end
with all nern Reich, Okay, sorry, yeah, when it's just
like it's like a bunch of weapons, but they're like
making jokes and he seems like, oh, you know, my
bunker's really hidden, and he says somebot like you being
secretive and they're like, oh what about that? Signs like oh,
there's nothing wrong about like a fun song. Like to me,
he just felt very justin Hammer quote coded, and I
do not understand why. And I know there's rumors he
was supposed to come back for Armor Wards, but Armors
is fucking dead, so it's like that's gone. So it's
just I don't know why. Like between Iron Man two,
now that guy won an Academy Award, you can say
Academy Award winner saw Sam Rockwell is an Ironheart, but
now they are all there and Reich, which who knows,
maybe he wouldn't do it, but Yeah, no, suit looks cool,
be some fun action, but I just feel like it's
this is a situation where we know exactly what to
expect with this show. Maybe it's gonna be like Thunderbolts,
where it's like, oh, this can just be suicide squad, right,
and it was two points, but we got something more.
My worries. Just like I said, here she does some crime,
putting her break off. They fight yet da da da.
It's nice to see some of these nighttime shots in
the trailer though, where you can see stuff, So I'll
give him that kudus as well too, where you can
clearly see what's happening in the action, like this guy,
this is fucking justin hammer, Like look at his whole setup,
you know.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, fair enough, I agree with you. Yeah no,
I I'm a big fan of CGI usage in nighttime shots,
not so much of the daytime shots. So the more
the more, the merrier. I think the first time I saw,
like the images of the trailer of her in the suits,
it looked a lot worse than it did like actually
watching the trailer. So yeah, no, I think it looks
pretty good. And yeah, I don't really have anything else
that it's just here's the fun thing.
Speaker 1: You talk about the suit how much? So it's six episodes,
you don't know the runtime of them all. What is
the percentage of how much she's.
Speaker 2: In the suit, like percentage of the whole show?
Speaker 1: Whole show?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what that would translate minutes wise.
How many episodes is it?
Speaker 1: It's six, Let's say each episode's half an hour, it's not,
or even let's say it's an hour. Well, that's tough
because that goes I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say even less. I was gonna say,
like less than twenty minutes. I think of total runtime. God,
at least like that version of the suit, I could
see her using like gadget maybe you know, yeah, cheap
gadgets there, but to her like fully suited up like
how we saw in that last kind of shot there. Yeah,
I think it's gonna be less than twenty minutes total.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I think it's gonna be a lot of her
using gadgets and trickery and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, which could be fun. You know, we can
not have to hide behind a CGI quality barrier where
if they I don't know, it didn't refine it that much.
It stands out in a log truck setting in a
specific episode. But yeah, we'll wait and see. I'm just
not very high on that one. I'm kind of surprised,
you know we even got this project at the end
of the day.
Speaker 1: Well that was that was back in the day when
they just want a bunch of stuff for Disney Plus.
Right now we're not in that situation.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, plans change. We could could have
just backgrilled it. Wow. I I won't say that until
I see it. You know, maybe maybe we're if I'm
ranking it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what's not getting backgorld is Jessica Jones.
Won't have too much say on this, but yesterday they
confirmed confirm Jessica Jones is coming back for season two
of Daredevil. I feel like we kind of all figured
that was gonna happen, but I think it's smart to
like get it out there. She's gonna be filming, and
I think they'll use her kind of similar as like
Frank when it's like, oh, well we've confirmed, and there's
always like a lot of promotion like hinting or showing
them off, but you don't know how much you're gonna
get him where you're gonna get him, And I think
they're gonna do the exact same kind of roll call
with her, because again, we still't I don't think they've
confirmed that Frank is in season two Daredevil because we
know he is a special, right, maybe he will be eventually,
but I could see there being a world where you're
getting the Punisher in a special and he can't make
it for this show, right, whatever it may be. So
I think it's smart bringing back that character being interesting
to see how they're gonna use her if they could
bring back other Defenders. And I'm very excited because it
got me ten points in the draft because we added
a new category this year if a character is announced
for a project, and lone behold, fucking Kirsten rittergan anounce
for that. So I'm very excited. But you never watched
Jessica Jones.
Speaker 2: Right, No, I haven't. I didn't even watch Defenders, so
I haven't seen any Christian Ritter in the Marvel universe.
So I'm I think it's really cool. I'm a fan
of hers. I feel like I haven't seen enough projects
of hers, but I've like she's an interesting actress where
I haven't seen like anything led by her but just appearances.
And I feel like all of the cameos are just
they singe in my brain, probably just to the quality
of the performance. Yeah, it's breaking bad, not gonna just
popped up a couple of times, and some old ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, given me. No Jessica Jones Red Show for that one,
you know, no season one, that's okay, sure, but that
would be it because season one, you could argue, is
the best show, like best single season on Netflix, Marvel.
It's damn good. Daenne Is Kilgrave is fantastic, It's amazing.
And then season two and three are of nose dives.
Those are tough binge reviews for Dylan and I and
to get through it was yeah, not not good, but
uh yeah no, curious to see what happens going forward. Obviously,
it's great to hear that we're getting this and it's
around the corner, so we'll see. Another thing we could
be getting is so this comes from a sea tears, Scooper,
So we're gonna talk about this, so Spider Man. We
still don't have any more casting other than Sadie sinc
and I thought there was one. Oh, no, they did.
Do you watch The Bear?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, So there's an actress on there the cast. She's
a cook. But the big thing is I can't remember
her name, but she's of Puerto Rican descent and she's
an older woman. So I imagine you know what everyone
jumps to for that casting.
Speaker 4: Uh no, you full of tailor on me. Again, he's
full of tailor on me.
Speaker 1: He's on videos cruising for that's I said. I said
that they last week from The Bear. There's an older
actress that's Puerto Rican that they cast.
Speaker 2: Do you think Puerto Rican female actress, older, late late fifties,
Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican. I'm blanking on the Puerto Rican
part of that description.
Speaker 1: So Miles Morales is part Puertoc, part black. You know,
I'm not gonna say half because I don't know all
his percentages going on.
Speaker 2: So it might be a taylor Field situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, point zero zero zero nine eighth Asian, Sure, Taylor,
But we got that. And so this is from a
sea tier. This comes from you know, take with a
grain of salt, because the scooper even said that. But
we'll see he's been quiet on the front so far.
We got to say, sank we got this one. It's
been said that Ned is coming back, and it's also
been said that Zenda's coming back. But her role has
been compared to the size of Homecoming, so which I'm
fine with. If she's gonna, I don't think she needs
to be in there, but of course she's a big star.
There's ties her and Tom Holmer either get married or
about to be married or are married, depending who what
fucking gossip ragg you see on the internet. But I'm
down for that because I feel like, okay, if you
have to have it in there, user in a small role.
But here's some other tidbits going on. Marvel Studios has
concept of Daniel Wu as Mister Negative. Daniel Wu is
currently the front runner for the role, but no decision
has been made yet. Pang Zong I hope I'm saying
that right. Is the fight choreographer for Spider Man Brand
new Day, best known for his choreography and sung cheap
Daniel Deston. Craton's one condition for taking the film was
getting rid of the multiverse plot and soft rebooting Spider
Man in the MCU. The film will be far more granted,
wishing with an emotional death to It. The other Spider
Man who were originally going to appear in the multiverse
version of this film will be making their returns in
Secret Wars. And then they were asked a question. They
also asked because we'd heard rumors about this being a
multiverse thing, and they said, hey, well, if there was
a story planned out, are we going to get that?
And they said, you would see that kind of sprinkle
throughout Doomsday, Secret War, et cetera. So obviously we're never
gonna know because maybe well, no one like ten twenty years,
that's when they usually get stuff that comes up. But
it's funny the trajectory of this movie when we never
had a director, but it sound like, okay, it's started
off with we're doing like a grounded Spider Man. There
was rumors like Fist was gonna be in there and
Daredevil a bunch of this stuff, and that was like,
I don't know year one, but let's just say like
Act one was that, and then Act two was like,
oh no, it sounds like it's multiverse. We heard like
Andrew's coming back all this stuff, certain films. We've heard
rumors about Defoe and again, this is a sea tier Scooper,
so who knows. But then it's like, okay, now it
feels like Act three, we're back to a grounded movie,
but it's like a different type of grounded because well,
it's more emotional and it's mister Negative and you know,
there's no multiverse aspects to it. So also we've talked
about this. This is probably a dumb question, but just
in case people are listening for the very first time,
how would you feel about a Mister Negative as the
main villain? And Daniel Wood I can't remember. I thought
I looked it up and I'd seen him in something,
but I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I pulled them up and I did not really recognize
any projects.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the rumor going around, Oh I think
did that rumor even say that? But the concept art
if did I say that in that We're Gonna run down?
That there's concept art of them? I think that's where
the room is coming from. That apparently there's like someone
who felt the concept art and it's of that actor,
which doesn't always mean that's the actor that's gonna get cast,
but sometimes that does mean that, Hey, they've had conversations
and it's an idea of what it is. But to
me at least, even if it's just like if there's
fucking to be concept art of any Mister Negative, that
to me hopefully means oh we're doing mister Negative.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm a lot more intrigue.
Speaker 1: Oh there I go, camera goes in out a lot.
Now what's going on?
Speaker 2: He just had drying up? Yeah, the well on that
webcam is it's getting expired. But with mister Negative, I
feel like I'm a lot more intrigued by just the
idea of him being in the project, a little like
more so than the actor pairing. Whoever they get I'm
sure is going to do a fine job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's done a lot like I've seen, Like I
saw a Warcraft, but I couldn't tell you who he was.
I saw Reminiscence, which I liked a lot more with you, Jack,
but I couldn't tell who he was. So yeah, it
seems like he was a bigger start internationally. But like
he's been in fucking eighty four projects, so I'm not
going to question his ability.
Speaker 2: I think he's no green Corn, yeah green Horn, Yeah,
you know, like he's green, he's a greeny. He's new.
Speaker 1: Why did you call him a greenhorn though.
Speaker 2: That's that's what they say, right, A greenhorn.
Speaker 1: Google that for me, confirm and horn spelt like with
like a devil horn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, green horn one word.
Speaker 1: Okay, A good person who's new or inexperienced in a
particular amigo. Okay, I'm no green horn either. That's what
he said to.
Speaker 2: Foggy eighty four projects. You think I'm a green horn,
but no, I think this is awesome. I feel like
I really didn't know anything about mister Negative until like
the Spider Man PS four games. So yeah, I and
and that was a really really intriguing story told around
that character, and then just multiplied by him coming back
in the second game. I thought, I thought, I enjoyed
the character even more. Yeah, So I can only imagine,
you know, if if we're sending for sending for setting
up the story for Spider Man's movie to be around
that character, I'm sure they're gonna do some juicy stuff
on there, because I just kind of got a glimpse
at what is possible around that character and really really
interesting look, really really interesting move sets and just power level.
And I like villains that can be like a like
a classic like mob boss, like like the leader like
like a kingpin of sorts, but then also have cool powers.
And the Kingpin is just that he's you know, like
ninety nine percent muscle or whatever the hell it is,
which which works. He's got a bullet bulletproof framing and
shot in the head and he's fine. But mister Native
is a little bit cooler than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Like I think there's I think I've seen.
I've read some stuff of him, but not massive arc.
So if this does happen, I have a bad backlog
of stuff, like even absolute Batman, which is everyone says
it's a fantastic kind of reboot of Batman. Not reat
a single page. I'm just bad it. Just like I
keep trying to set time aside, but just busy. I'm
hoping after the ten year I can do some stuff,
or not before that, just get outside in the summer
and do some reading. But so I'd like to dive
deeper into the character. But from the things I've have seen,
and then obviously the video game, I'm not saying going
to adapt that one for one because that storyline also
has like a big to do with Aunt May right,
and clearly you couldn't do that here. Because aunt May
has now gone the MCU, so they obviously will do
their own version. But if you can take the skeleton
of that and make it work, like you're talking about like,
oh the mob Boston in that game, that's how it starts.
It's like, oh, guy, that were philanthropist, that does chair
it all work to Oh he's shady criminals? Oh no,
he's like a super villain. Like I think there's a
good it's kind of feels not exact the same, but
like you could evoke kind of the Vulture Is stuff,
Like right away you knew Vulture was like Michael Keane's bad, right,
But that's the same sort of method. I imagine too.
By time this comes out a Daredevil's season two, they'll
probably have fisks somewhat stop so they don't have to
do the whole like what's Spierman doing the no vigilante
zone and what's mister Negative Like they might have it
set up in a way where a Fisk does go
to prisoner get taken down or he's just missing, and
that's our Maybe maybe mister Nagaive would take over, or
maybe they don't care because they've said that before. They
want to separate the shows and movies again made they're
just like, eh, whatever, that's so small franchise stuff. Spier
Man doesn't care. He's gonna give a shit about Fisk, right,
and like realistically, and the way they set up the MCU,
like Speriamn has fought then, I was like, he should
really have no problem with Wilson Fisk, you know, like
he should so pretty easy. So uh yeah, I really
hope this is true. I like all the rumors we've
been pitching mister Nagat for a while, especially before they
did the No Way Home Method. It was okay, we
did Vulture because you haven't done that before. You know,
you got a Scorpion that never became Scorpion, which I'd
like to see. You had Chalker you had and the stereo.
So this follows on that trend before the crossover movie.
Oh we're gonna do new characters that have been done before.
And again we talked about this on the Thunderbolts review.
If what they did was Century, I think you do
something really cool with mister Negative and the effects like
Century and the Void made me believe like, oh, we
could do some fun lighting, you know, colorating technique, stuff
like hopefully. If not, it looks like shit, but I
trust that for century By, Oh, we could do something
really unique here and stand out, because he does have
like a very standout look. You know, that's one good
thing about that villain, so and I think that'd be
good just to go smaller tier. I think there's multiple
threads and that thing. Even the game, right, it's like
they connect on a personal level in the first game
and the second game, and even Miles does right with
that character. It's not just a cutthroat. He's a bad guy,
and I think that's where it helps that he is
similar in a similar elk of Vulture, uh, Doc Hawk,
Green Goblin, you know, not so much Mysterio, because Mysterio,
like they didn't connect, right, he was a fraudster. Sandman
and vandom they were messes. So like I think you
can get back to that classic Spiderman film that many
people love of Oh, you know, there's a heart there.
He's doing bad things, but he can try to save
him one way, or maybe he doesn't. Maybe this experiments
is so fucked up right now he's gone. Maybe mister
Native reflects that, right, and maybe he sees mister Native
doing all these terrible things. He doesn't want to be
like that, and uh yeah, if it's not multiverse anymore,
it makes me really question who Sadie Sinks playing because
if you say it's multiverse, well that's like there's so
much to be playing. Right we talk about like MJ
and Toby's daughter. She could be playing just a different MJ.
She could play Spider, Gwen x Y and Z right, Like,
I guess you could say it could be like a
Gwen Stacy at this universe, but like, I don't see
the casting, but I feel like I'm now and I
don't want to get too excited because she easy could
just be like I don't know, mister natives like adopted
daughter or actual daughter or are they an assist in
Like it could literally just be fucking no character. They're like, Okay,
it's you know, classic MCU. We got too excited, But
like I'm trying not to get hype, but I'm wondering
if Black Cat is in play, just especially because like
we'd heard those rumors before of like oh they're talking
to Sidney sweeen and they're talking to on you to
their Joy, who to me felt very like archetypes of
a black Cat. Where Sadie think I don't think is
that she could prove me wrong. I mean that's what
this will happen here. And it just feels like, okay
if it is more crime based, and to me, if
we're talking about like mobsters and people owing stuff, like
black Cat is like an easy character again in that situation, right,
like of either working for mister Negative or stealing something
from him that he wants back. And that's how Spiderman
gets in the adventure. Like I'm leaning more towards it
could be Black Cat, and that way you can kind
of do like a like it's the perfect sort of
love interest for Tom Holm right now, because if you
throw in Gwen Stacy or another Mary Jane, they kind
of have to like fall in love or something. Where
black Cat the push is always like oh yeah, like
I do have the hats for this girl, but she's
a criminal after all, so I can't really go for it, right,
like his moral compass. So you can have them like
share a kiss, but it's not like, oh my god,
like black Cat kiss Spider Man. He'll never end back
with mj like because clearly they wanted to get back
within day at some point, right, so I just don't
think they want to give a great love, and a
black cat is never the great love. She's the side
chick or the rebound chick. Like she's never the one
that he ends up with. So I'm feeling that. But again,
she could just be fucking limo driver and you know,
oh my god, I stole this ambulant.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was, you know, so it
could very well happen. I don't think she's gonna be
the limo driver. It's set up in like just a
world where I feel like black Cat is like a
likely set up there. But it's just hard for me
to like see her as the black Cat. I feel
like she can play so many different roles in there,
but black Cat. I'm not saying she can't, but it's
just like really really low on the list of pairings
that I would give her.
Speaker 1: It's just something we haven't seen before. Yeah, And it's
because like I think both Sidney Sweeney and a you
Taylor Joy have played like that's called spade a spade.
It's like not a sex pot role, but it's similar that, right,
you have to be very volumptuous, you have to be
very like uh, give off that promiscuous vibe flirtatious, Yeah, flirtatious,
And I'll completely emit my bias here. I think it's
also tough for me that I've like, I started watching
Sadie sing, which she's like a fucking like twelve year
old girl, so it's like that's not what I jumped
to right away where I'm like, oh, yeah, Sadie sinc like,
I'm sure she can seem sex la. Yes, I on
Vodka stream last week where she's like I can never
be like again and people only just fine. But it's like, yeah,
like yeah, the good looking girl. But that's where it's like,
and that's where maybe she's and she hasn't done that,
right She played the fucking maximum stranger things that's not
a sexual role, and I am seeing her and other stuff.
The only thing I've seen her in the Tato Swift
video and then The Whale where the Whale she plays
like a god awful, very mean spirited daughter, so there's
no sex appeal about that either, right, So, and even
then the other thing is it's tough for me in general.
The always counterpoint is like, and we've talked about this before,
MCU is like a very asexual place, like characters don't
act like that in the MCU really like star Lord
did to begin making a lot of sexual jokes, Tony
Stark did at the beginning, but then that kind of
goes away, like I think the Black Cat we get
and maybe that's it too. Maybe actually you know why,
that makes it easier because I feel like the MC
black Cat maybe wouldn't be as sexual and like flirtations
and using sex as a weapon or like bat and eyelash.
There might be some flirtations, but not to the same
degree as what we got on the animated shows with
the comic book, So maybe that's the thing where so yeah,
we just need somebody that's like, has a good attitude
and can have some fun woody band for Tom Holme,
which Tastin could do that, right, she can. I think
she can be like kind of a you know that
person that's very strong, but I could see you're going
toe to toe Tom holl And some quips and everything.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and seemed like.
Speaker 1: The outcast right because Max and Stranger things like that.
She's like in the whale where it's like she doesn't
belong and that is Felicia Hardy right where it's like
she doesn't belong because she's you know, criminal.
Speaker 2: Heart of Gold, so totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, let's take our last ad break and then
we'll be right back. And we're back, so we're gonna
talk about three things are about more just combook stuff,
some more Sperman stuff, So we're talking about Sperman no
war teaser, but also just the images and the news
that came out with it. We got Peacemaker season two trailer,
got followts yeah, season two of course, and then also
we'll save we got no trailer yet, but rumor of
an Elden ring a twin four movies, so we'll put
that all together. Kirkle, when you want to talk about first.
Speaker 2: I mean give me your follow out thoughts. I've been
waiting since we started this cast. You alluded that you
were gonna share your thoughts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got no thoughts. No, it's literally just like
we do because season one of course, because I've never
played this New Vegas obviously people talk about as like
the Crown Jewel, that franchise or just one of the
best games. So after the oh, we need to do
New Vegas stuff. We need do New Vegas stuff. It's
the characters they like walk up in the sciences Las Vegas.
So it's just like I was signed to be like okay,
and then it like pans out just shows them walking
into like a fucking destroyed Vegas. And the news with
this too is like it was that it's coming on December,
which is great because how many shows nowadays does it take,
Like we talked about this last of us Game of Thrones,
like you're looking at minimum two years before you get
a second or a follow up season, right, So it's
nice that we got fault last year in the spring
and now in the December of this year we're getting it.
Oh it's kind of chee because I'm sure we'll bleed
into January. But still I'll take like a year and
year and a half over some of these other shows
that we just takes forever, you know, even and or right,
like when did we talk about that with the REECN
Like when did Andorer start that show?
Speaker 2: And or.
Speaker 1: Of course my last history is andre gin Beach fucking
talk about that last night? Let's see. So not twenty
eighteen Kirkland Disney Plus wasn't even live at twenty eighteen,
twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: Rogue one is what I was thinking that day. But
even then, wasn't that like twenty sixteen?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rogue one was twenty sixteen, and I suppose, yeah,
Stranger Things time between seasons, and obviously it's varies, right,
But for me, I'm like, oh, that's cool, we have
Fault coming right away. And then they confirmed they got
season three that's already renewed. So very excited because fall
Out was a great show. I'm down to get more
in that world. And I think that obviously because the
games of unlimited potentials, but I think it was just
like a fun Hey all you fans that asked about
New Vegas, We're gonna do some of that coming up.
And again I don't know Fault time. I'd love to
actually get in there. I've never played Fault Four's the
only Fault game I'd ever played. Bethessa was like a
like a dark spot for me. Never played an Elder
Elden's Elder Scrolls game either, So like all Bethesda is
very I got Fault four and Starfield, so maybe I'd
like to dip my toes there. Even Oblivion. I hear
people love in the remake. I'm like I'd like to.
I just don't have the time to like bust that
open with death Stranding too, just around the Corner, which
you're playing Cirrika, right, because you beat the first one.
Speaker 2: Since we talked a lout, you got to jump on
Doom Dark Ages first, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's out Tomoral so it's out to night. But
like I'm busy cast and i'm people, you know I
will be playing Doom. I did abandon Dylm like you
guys did on the review. My god, yeah, and Doom
bandas stranding, but uh yeah, you ever gonna catch up
on Fallout? Do you think it's passed you by?
Speaker 2: I am caught up? I am yeah, Shane, I watched
all of season one.
Speaker 1: Okay, he just went on the review, So if I
was on the review, you never watched it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, for sure. I liked it. I thought
it was it was pretty good. It took a while
for me to watch it for like no particular reason.
It was just like we would watch an episode and
then like a week and a half later we watch
the next episode. So I feel like that kind of
makes it a little fuzzy in my mind, just because
it took so long to get through but it wasn't
for any negative reasons or anything. It was just it
was a casual viewing. But uh, I like the characters
in there, and they definitely were able to capture a
lot of the isms of the Fault universe, which is fun.
So I'll uh yeah, I'm not gonna not gonna say
I'm I'm committing to Uh, well, we'll see. I will
watch it eventually.
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, well, and I won I imagine with this one,
because I thought part of the reason you maybe didn't
review it because it was a bench. I don't think
this one will be binge because Amazon usually does that
right where the first show was binge, but then they
usually do like the drop two to three episodes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then weekly so now sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think they're gonna do that again. I
think that's just how Amazon likes to do it. They
like to test that, which I don't know when we're
getting I thought about this the other day. I thought
it was this year. So I'm sure we're gonna get
a fucking announcement any point in me and Kirk and
be like, oh fuck, we don't have the time, but
we will make the time. I thought we were getting
May twenty twenty six. Where's Batman Kikrisaer two?
Speaker 2: You know oooh that's a good question. Actually, I hope
it's early twenty twenty six, but I E I don't
remember hearing any mumblings.
Speaker 1: Let's see. Yeah, no, no specific day, just still in production,
so at least it's still happening. But yeah, I won't
mind twenty twenty six because yeah, at the same time,
look at me, I'm like, oh, I need this show
right away. But it's more just like a podcasting thing,
cause it's already getting filled up because right now in
August we're gonna talk about we got Peacemaker, we got Dexter,
and then we got fuck what also is that? Oh
alien Alien Earth? Finally got a date. But yeah, it's
transitioned into that Peacemaker. We got the first trailer here,
So big week for DC, Big big week for James Gunn.
What do you think this trailer?
Speaker 2: I thought this trailer was great. I thought they yeah,
just captured like the total vibe of what the first
season was for me, for humor wise. I like seeing
our cast all together again and just the interview like
the humor was good for me. So I think this
was just really really solid across the board, pretty much
got the whole James Gunn family in there, Sean Gunn. Oh,
what's her name? Jennifer, Jennifer something, Jennifer something, God.
Speaker 1: What is her name?
Speaker 2: I feel like it's soup Gun. Yeah, Jennifer gun that's
an easy one. They are married.
Speaker 1: They are married?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, no, I I thought it was just
a really really great trailer, and I had so much
fun with that first season, so I'm I'm really looking
forward to this one. This is a Yeah, this is
a good one.
Speaker 1: Jennifer Holland do we forget about that? Yeah? Yeah, I
liked this trailer way more than I thought I was
gonna be. Like I thought that I like ridden Peacemakers
going through right now on the camera side, not that
I had like written Peacemaker off. Again, it had been
a while since it happened. And obviously that's another one
where it's like, go, how is this gonna fit in?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What a weird? And I'm sure James Gun's like, ah,
I fucking love but what do we had? Start to
the DCU where it's a get Creature Commandos and then
Superman and then the next project that's Peacemaker, which I
say some of the effects will go to And I
think that's smart. Right already, like you're see like you
can draw through line to all these as far as
and Creature Commandos. You meet Rick Flagg Senior, right, yeah,
Rick Flake Senior and Supermann he's there hunting down Superman
and then in Peacemaker he's hunting down Peacemaker because he
killed the son, which is funny. It seems like he's
hunting down people and all these projects. But still that's
one thing I'll give him kudos where it doesn't feel
like you have to watch these all but there's a
nice little through line of oh look there's one character.
He's like a nick feary worries in all these projects
so far right, different function, but still you got Guy Gardner,
you got Hawk Girls. So I think that was smart.
Very excited, like we've talked those before, but very excited.
I don't think she's gonna get much time in Superman,
but I think she can get some fun time. And
Peacemaker is Billemer said to see her and like a
complete different role from Dina, which is very emotional, dark
show where this feels like just is gonna be a
good time. And that's why expect for Peacemaker right a
good time. I hope all the gun comedy isms that
he uses in Guardians the Squad and Commandos he gets
all out here, so we don't get that in Superman
the whole you know, Oh my butt's getting bigger? Oh
is that popcorn? I don't need that in Superman. And
don't get me wrong, I'm fucking we tell this vocka
stream and that last week I was on. I fucking
love Tim Meadows, the Ladies Man, one of my favorite
SNL characters, legitmly. I laughed out loud when he did
the whole role call of like okay, Mexicano, you're over
there like titties. And then they're like you go with
the guys, like yeah, but not those fucking names. They're like, well,
what do you expect? Like it's Tim Meadows has such
a good line delivery, Like if anyone's ever seen walk
hard like you do, won't do this shit? Do we?
Drugs are bad for you? What is that? It's oxycon?
It makes you feel the best you've ever felt like,
It's like Tim Meadows. I love Tom Meadows And when
I saw them, There're like, man, what a great addition,
and I'm yeah, I was a good time even then,
Like the other joke that got me, it's a stupid joke.
But when it's just they have this therapist talking, he's like, yeah,
these results show you have like extreme toxic masks, and
Lenny and they switch up it's Harker. It's like, what
the fuck? Like it doesn't make it does because you
kind of they set up like they're talking about Peacemaker, right,
but they're not. It's her. So uh, the trailer to
me maybe because I just kind of like, oh, yeah,
Peacemaker's coming. I had low expectations. Again, I'm very excited.
And the good thing about that is season one, that show,
I think for all of us like overshot expectations. I
all thought, we all thought, oh, it's gonna be a
fun show. But like we said before, that was a
better Secret Invasion than Secret Invasion. Was the whole storyline
they did there. And also, it's gonna be interesting how
they explain Peacemakers getting this universe. They tease at the
end of Ours two peace Makers, so somehow, and they've
talked about there's rumors of these things called like Pocket dimensions.
I'll see the end there when he's like walks his door.
It's not the same scene because you can see a shirt.
It's different. But I don't know, I guess which is
a weird way. It's fine. It's James Gunn's character, and
if they want to make him kind of like the
Deadpool of the MCU or the DCU, that works. Is
even that beginning scene that feels a lot like Deadpool
Maulveren right where he's meeting John Favreau, trying out same
thing as Peacemaker. He's trying out here and what I
loved about that first season, I'm sure they'll do again
here and the trailouts used as a joke and even
then he'll say like, oh, I hear you're talking, But
we know that character will actually internalize it and it
will hurt him a lot that he got denied from
this team because he just wants to be a part
of some right. He's like dead Pool, where he doesn't
want to be a loser. He wants to be up
there on a post or with the heroes, and especially
in season one, he did like help save the world.
So like the fact that he's not gonna be a
part of like the Justice League or the Justice Gang.
This character which I'm gonna try and rewatch season one.
He was a pretty depressed character at times, so I
think that like it's gonna have comedy goal. But sure,
I guess if I don't know what they're gonna do.
If they're gonna make it that our Peacemaker jumps to
universe and kills this Peacemaker to take over sounds outlandish,
but also sounds like something Peacemaker would do because he
is kind of a piece of shit at times. So
I don't know what they're doing, but very intriguing. I think,
great final shot of a Peacemaker going down a piece maker.
And I don't think it is like a dream sequence.
I think it is they got up. You know that
guy was in the DCU. They got to get him
over here for the same stuff to happen. So how
that happens, I don't know, And I think Jameson Gunn
might just do it as like a quick joke happens
episode one. Okay, here's the show. We move on, you
know that's it? So what else do we have? Oh,
Spider Noir, what do you feel about this? Nick yeah,
twenty twenty six. I can't remember if they confirmed the
episode count, not even a date wise, they said you
could watch it in black and white and color. I
don't know if that means the show is gonna go
back and forth like some stuff color, some stuff black
white if you had the choice to. But the whole
teaser was black and white. And if you look at
the costume that is ripped right from the pages and
right from the animated show, it's it's a spot on that.
So how are you feeling about This isn't just like
a picture and an idea we've had. This is something
that it's actually happening and it's coming out next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so interested in what this is gonna really be.
I feel like I knew it was live action, but
like until I saw the trail, like I was scrolling through,
I felt like I had seen like so many different
accounts posts this like little teaser trailer. I'm like, this
is a fake trailer.
Speaker 1: You know, it feels fake.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty notorious for getting caught by these fake trailers,
and I'm like, I'm not I'm not getting caught here.
But I had to watch like a couple different ones,
because of course they had like extended ones that people
just add their own little things in there. But yeah,
I'm just so interested in the uh because like this
is so original from like any other Marvel content that
we've seen, just just the whole idea of taking this
character who's like very stylized and like, in my mind,
it like only really works in unless you're doing like
what is it, like a sin City type like aesthetic
to it like that, or animated, like that's the only
way that this would work. But this, this is kind
of like another tear to it. So yeah, I I
I don't know, like I don't even know what to
expect really going into it, Like I don't know if
there's gonna be a lot of humor in there or whatnot.
So this trailer did a good job at just making
me smell the bait on the hook. You know, I'm
gonna be there no matter what, but I'm a little
bit more intrigued as to just what the possibilities could
be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because I think Clay asses in the discours,
what do you expect from the show, And it's tough
because like anything that's not been Tom Hollans Spider Man
are animated. It's been crap, right, but then Amazon pretty
good track record that I trust that the show's not
gonna be complete crap. I'm sure Amazon has crap, but
I haven't any that I've been interested in that hasn't happened.
So all I'm hoping for, UH is just a good, solid,
just completely separate by itself thing, very much funny enough
in that same vein Spider Man or friendly neighborhood Spider
Man like that, where it's its own universe, and I
don't think it is right. I don't think they're gonna
worry about oh tie to Spider Verse or tied to
like this Spider Man will fight Alto Johnson's Ryano. No,
And they've even said that universe is kind of dead, right,
Like that's I mean, like, just have fun, even if
because I think people theorize there's that guy he's standing
there with the canny kind has like some pointy years
or something. I think people I think they're theorize, but
I think Falter has been rumored to be in the show,
and I think toombs, like, to me, it's one of
these things where I don't care, like put fucking doc
Hawk or Green Golm. I'm not saying I need those characters,
but like, just do whatever you want and be not
beholden to anything else that's going on MSU Animation, Spider
like Spermer, Relag, just do your complete own thing. I
don't need it to tie in X, Y and Z,
and I think they're gonna do that because I just think, like,
what's the point of tying it. It's just just showing
an Amazon like it's Nick Cage, she's playing a Spider
Man type character. Like, just have some fun with it,
because then if it works, then you open up a
whole another door. Right, So that's where I kind of
hope that friend the Neighborhood where Yeah, first I was
disappointed it wasn't the tom oln prequel, but then once
we be like, okay, this is just its own Well
what if it's a multiverse story, cool, and that makes
it better for it. They don't got to fit into
a type box. And yeah, I'm very happy because I
remember we talked about this about like, oh they god
do black and white, right, and even if, like you said,
there's some color, sure, but if there's an option between
color and black and white, I'm not watching a single
episode in color like to me like with like you
can hear Nick Cage just doing like that slight accent
again of like, oh so you got the moxy like
that going on the look to feel like I get it.
I guess if like black and White really scared to
come out and watch the color. But like, I just
think that fits with the point and hopefully the show
is shot like that too, because again, you can take
any movie or project and turn it black and white,
but the best ones are the ones that are kind
of dedicated or at least if it's not the whole project,
many moments or scenes are dedicated to the lighting of
a black and white project, right that's out enhanced saly
like a three D. You can turn any movie three D,
but if it's not film that way, it's not gonna
look as good.
Speaker 2: And we saw that.
Speaker 1: I think that's why three D died, like in the
theaters and stuff, because we got so many just like
shit conversions where it's like, why am I paying an
extra seven dollars for like this doesn't look like three D?
And'm wear in plastic, you know, like it looks very minor.
So that's where it's like, hey, if they went the
extra mile to shoot this to make it look good
in black and white, just like were Wolf by Night.
Absolutely I'm gonna do that. And yeah, I'm I'm excited
for this. Honestly, this was just a teaser. Didn't give
us any story beats or whatnot. This was just more
of like a geez, this thing is real and we're
getting it next year, and uh, very it's bringing a
lot of loves together, like Spider Man, you know you're
a spidy boy. You got Nicholas Skage for tailor. And again,
it just feels like a fever dream type of series
of like, oh, they're actually doing this, Hey, they're doing
an a Spiderman horror Nick Cage. I could believe they're
doing an Inspiman no Our show. Sure, the fact that
Nick Cage is in, it's like, well, what a fucking
while the world we live? And I hope it's good
and I hope we get it in. Yeah it looks
good so far, and like we're seeing them and I'll
just say, yeah, thank you guys for committing to the
bit and just doing black and white, or you know,
at least most of it. Because we talk all the
time you need do different stuff in the comic genre,
and there's not many of that going off, and maybe
a movie might be too risky to do that, right
like oh like Pitching People, Black white movie, but a
series a little less so uh yeah, I can't wait
to see what happens with that. And then finally it's
fun Ellen Ring. Yes, this was announced last week right now,
it's a rumor still in the sea tier a little
higher see tier but now EMC plus here but see
tier where supposedly a twenty four I don't know it's
got the rights or working on getting the rates for
elden Ring and Alex Garland. Who did Ex Makina, who
did the Machinists, who did Men? Who did Civil War?
Who did War Frame? Which I've not seen, uh as
of this year. Maybe I'll get to it. I don't know.
I'm kind of done with war movies right now. But uh, yeah,
obviously that would be a war it's the war frame, Yeah,
Warframes at PS four game back in the day, but yeah, warfare,
you're right, yeah, but uh, what do you think about this?
Because obviously you've now dipped your toes this past year
into some elden Ring. What do you think of a movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it seems like like initially my thoughts are
it's just such a daunting task because it's just such
a massive thing to go into, like the lore, Like
the lore is insanely just just deep. I think in
in that universe and it's very uh, it's not like
it has like a solid straight cannon and like this
is the main story because like in the Soul's universes,
like they usually have like well, there's multiple different endings
and they're all cannon like it's all just different worlds
kind of colliding. Now, I don't think that in order
to tell an Elden Rings story on the big screen
or TV series or anything like that. And there I
go again, like I don't think you need to necessarily
cover the same story that we've already been told through
the video game. Like you could just tell a story
in the world of the Lands Between or even just
other lore of like areas beyond that. You could just
jump into a bizarre world and see some familiar things
and just kind of have like a similar rule set
on how the world is structured. I think just telling
a story in that world, like long way of saying
it doesn't have to be cut for cut what we
experienced in the video game. But just like the world
itself is so massive and to scale and it has
such an interesting, like we've been talking about style so
much tonight, like elden Ring has a very unique style
of just the golden rays of grace, like everywhere you go,
the giant rd trees, which if I'm seeing that on
like on screen, I it better look good because if
it looks like I never saw Warcraft, but I just
picture like that, really that really early two thousand CGI.
Maybe that's too extreme comparison, but in my mind, that's
what it looks like, and that would really take me
out of it, because I think elden Ring is probably
one of the most beautiful looking games I've ever seen.
Maybe maybe just Strandings a little bit above it, but
still it looks gorgeous. And yeah, I love the world.
I love everything that's kind of introduced in that game.
And I'm I'm really open this to this being a thing.
I'm not I'm not in the camp of like, if
you can't do it perfectly, don't do it at all.
But I'm also like cautious, cautious, optimistic. I think because
it can. It can go horribly wrong. It could come out,
it could look cheap, it could look really half assed,
and everyone hates it because it's like nothing like nothing
close to what the original game is at all. But
I don't know. I also think there's many different avenues
that we can go to tell just a really good
story and it doesn't have Maybe it doesn't have to
have that massive scale that the video game has, Like
maybe it could be a more contained story just just
in that world and it could still be really good.
It's never been done before other than just the video game,
so it's it's tough to kind of imagine the perfect
setting for it. But I think someone like Alex Garland,
it's definitely not a negative of having someone like that
attached to the project. X Makin is one of my
favorite movies ever. And then yeah, no, I think he's
got a good track record beyond that, because Machinist that's
like an Oscar movie, isn't it. What even is the
is is that the agri.
Speaker 1: X mock and a machine.
Speaker 2: Then you say them, did you say that you've you've
mixed up.
Speaker 1: Three movies together? So I said X Macana, which all
Dormal Gleason and Oscar Isaac and Elisa the candor, yes
you know miss faspinner cap. And then there's the machinist,
which is Christian. Uh the machine is when Christian Bell
also that weight and he plays the characters.
Speaker 2: And so what did you bring that one up? Then
earlier I.
Speaker 1: Didn't ex Macana. Let's see I swear he said the machinist.
I don't think I did, but maybe maybe all the
ghost throw me a rope here, yeah, ys, go back
to the guy the chair for us, thank you, and
then come back. And then but where you are completely
wrong as you were saying, oh, Adrian Brownie, that's the brutalist,
the brutal. So even if I'm right, even if you're
right about I fucked the machinist. You you brought the
brutalist into this and I didn't bring up that at all.
That's just you put another is at the end of
the movie, like that's the one with Brody.
Speaker 2: Right, Like they're all the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me, I'm in what use of the
camp of like completely do this one hundred percent? Like
there's no I like, okay, yes, there's a negative. They
go and make a shit movie. All that sucks, But
it's like I don't think that like hurts the game.
It's one of those popular games of all time, Like
those Souls games are very popular, right, But they got
someone like myself who I had no interest in that
genre at all, be like, oh, because of this world
I want to experience, And like I said, that's the
top ten game for me. I still got to go
back and finish some stuff and there's DLC. But it's like,
as I've said before, it's just daunting to like you
got to be in that headspace right now. Not but
that movie. What are you as a character? What's your
name again? Yeah? Tarnish like to me, just that concept
of the Tarnish and you're working your way through that world.
You can do whatever you want. You can take the
lore as like guidelines because it's perfect. Like if you're
a good writer, you kind of have can you have
your script? You kind of have like the idea of
what the world is and how it would work, right,
whether it's uh, let's see, oh oh I saw them bo,
thank you bub So Alice Garland who did the Machinist?
Or I said, who did x maka The Machinist, and man,
that's funny. I did say machinists. No, sorry, I meant
to say he did Annihilation with Natalie Portman and a
bunch of other people. So my so I was, we
were both right, and I was, we're both wrong. You're wrong,
bro Brody and I wrote at machinists. But for me,
it's like the the like when you write a movie. Right,
we wrote a drammic chrome. I don't write this all down,
but in my head, I know, okay, this just takes
place in our world, the real world. Here you go.
But if we write a fantasy movie, a sci fi movie,
I would think you have to kind of think about
those rules of the world right where you don't have
to do the one ring because it's all there, the
guidelines there, so like the lowre that stuff, and sure
there's some of the bigger bosses, but like, I just
think there's so many stories you can tell the world
that wouldn't like impact the lore or even need to
use them other than just like, oh that sets up
what the world is, right, Like, I don't think there's
gonn anything that's breaking can because again you alluded to already,
I've heard like elden Ring is the game that is
Soul's you know type Bloodborne type that has the most story,
and it barely has any fucking story. Elden Ring.
Speaker 2: It's it.
Speaker 1: The game is cliff notes because you're not there for that, right,
you're there for the journey of the gameplay, the exploration,
but it's cliff notes the game where it's like, oh,
gives you enough so you're motivated, but then that's it.
You know, you have some great like character interactions, but
as far as story, you can do anything. So for me,
it's just like it's more A twenty four just like buying.
If they get this buying the world, so it's like, oh,
we can tell a story in this world. And again
we were talking like, oh, you don't look like a
warcraft or whatnot A twenty four. Like it's funny they're
doing the Death Stranding movie. They're trying to get into
bigger budget stuff. And to me, if you talk about
ellen Ring, if it's gonna be a movie, a twenty
four is well that they're not perfect. They've had misses,
but they've had tons of great sons stuff we've loved
over the years. And for me, if it's like, Okay,
if they're gonna try to do bigger budget, bigger budget,
bigger but bigger budgets, say that three times fast. Maybe
it's not gonna be like a two hundred million, two
fifty million dollar movie. But at the same time, I
feel like they might take more care with it versus like, oh,
Warner Brothers has elden Ring, and it's like, okay, I
saw they did Minecraft. Now I'm not saying Jason Momo
and Jack Black's gonna be an elden Ring, Like that
would be a whole different situation, right. Minecraft's more kitty
and youth and has more room to play and do
that type of stuff. But with ellen Ring, I want
that shit taken dead seriously, you know, yeah, I want
like every actor and to me the fucking blueprint, And
I think I probably used this for destreating as well.
Is fucking Green Knight, you know, like Green Knight. To me,
that's a movie that has so many locations that yeah, okay,
you can tell they're in Scotland, They're somewhere where it's
like a forest woods, but there's enough locations where like
this looks otherworldly, this looks like does not belong here.
It looks like something out of a mythical story. To me,
it's just like do Green Knight, but just bigger budget
for those locations like the old of that movie, the giants,
like the monsters. You can do that with boss fights,
like just pick some of the Elderring bosses that are
like not as complicated with the heads, Like there's a
couple of them obviously that are like that might break
the budget, but like just be picky and choosier or
create your own one. But that's where for me is
like elden Ring can be the Green Knight that is
the bigger budget, more general audience friendly one of that, right,
But that's the story of these at a mission has
to do something. And again, if you get some of
those creatures or bosses where you're like looking like the
Green Knight, like those effects, like man, that's fantastic, where
lots of other studios, maybe A twenty four does say, Hey,
the main boss in this fuck it, We're not doing makeup.
It's gonna be just a CGI creature. Okay, there's a chance.
But if we get like Universal Disney war as he
knows like probably one hundred percent, like ah, we're just
gonna see GI and and again nothing's bad. We've had
many great CGI characters, but we've also had some stuff
that's been it because they rush these projects. Right, So
if you can tell me, hey, you can get an
Elder and Ring move that looks like Green Night, I'm
pretty much sold. If you keep it smaller scale, just
do Okay, it's a in those movie or in that game,
that map is massive, Like you said, don't do that,
do like a chunk of one part of the map.
Don't do anything else because then what if it's a hint,
Well you can go to the next movie. You can
do that whenever, like, don't do like, don't look at
the map, be like, well we got a Lord of
the Rings this and have like them go to everywhere
in game. No, don't do that, Like just pick certain
areas or slices and do that. So for me, there's
not much failure here. And if you're gonna take a
chance on any of these souls games like Eldon Ring
is the one because it was sold like hotcakes, and
I think people love that and like so there's people
like myself that aren't in that genre that gave that
a chance and really liked it. So for me, it's
it's the one to take a bet on. It feels
like if if A twenty four because one that didn't
fit for me a couple of years agohen we talked
about was like, oh, they're trying to get the Halloween right.
So I'm like, like, I want to see that, but
that felt a little odd. We're like def stranding Elden Ring,
Like these feel like, oh, these are big IP franchises,
but they still fit in the A twenty four warehouse, right,
Like I don't want to be like, oh, yeah, eight
twenty four has got the rights to die Hard. I'm like, well,
I don't know if that's something you know, like or
just name other franchise out there, but A twenty four
elban ring that that goes together pretty well. I hope
it happens. And Garling is a great pick. I've you know,
we didn't do The Machinist, but X Makin is great.
I loved Civil War Man's a very interesting movie. Annihilisha,
I gotta give another shot for war Fair. I've heard
great things about so again, that's not just A twenty four.
You got a really talented director and yeah, so I
hope it happens, and I think there's lots of upside
to it, more upside and down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I think an avenue where they could run
into some problems is if they try to do too
much like right away. Yes, it's like you said, like
they do try to tackle the whole map in their
in their first go around. Let's just start small and
then kind of build it from there, and uh yeah,
I'm optimistic though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll see in the next couple of years
and thing too before we want that's another movie where
maybe get like one star, but I feel like you
don't go out and get like a bunch of names
like you get just like a just smaller tier cast.
And that's where you don't break the budget either. Where
it's like you sell on the name, you sell on
the visuals, the story, the adventure, don't sell on like
Tom Cruise is the tarnish, Like, yeah, don't do that.
You know that'd be sick.
Speaker 2: But I I definitely want to see that. I thought
I'm okay with letting Tom Cruise go away. You know
who I do want to see in there, though, is
funny talking about Green Knight not very kyogan. I I
I'll take him anywhere, but specifically like the King guy
who's also a mission possible fallout and Lane that actor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's collect right, I can't remember. And he's
fucking in what's the Witch movie or the Witch?
Speaker 2: Different guy but also him but also.
Speaker 1: Mean Sean Harper is his real name is Sean Harker.
Speaker 2: Sean something harp Right?
Speaker 1: He is in Green Night, Yeah right, and he's like
the King, Yeah, he's he's a He's a good pick
for the type of movies.
Speaker 2: So especially just like the weird NPCs you come across
and just how they're talking in riddles and you've no
idea what the fuck they're saying. Yeah, like, get someone
with an interesting voice in there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, So well we will see what happens if
we get that movie. If we do, and yeah, here
we go. We've done it. Big newscast this week, Kirkland
Man Iron Art, what.
Speaker 2: Since we're still alive? I was gonna ask you, did
you see the NFL schedule came out? Any spicy matchups
for your your Green Bay Packers. I have the Christmas
game this year against Clay's Detroit Lions, and you know,
they absolutely smacked us at the end of last season,
but Christmas magic in Minnesota. I'm hopeful, Clay, I hope,
I hope you're listening to this.
Speaker 1: No, he still doesn't looked at anything football since the
last playoff game. You know he's he's still he's still traumatic,
he's still hurting. Let's see here. I have not looked
at my schedule. I know the opening game day were
I think we got Baltimore or something like that, But
fucking preseason. Get the preseason here, yeah, I think we
were like on a Monday. So uh no, I'm not
looking much into I gotta start gearing up because I
gotta start planning for uh the draft and everything and
get ready for that se Who I want to keep,
who I want to steal and whatnot? Oh my god,
I get the preces we want to keep.
Speaker 2: We're not keeping a roster of last year.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like who i'd want back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's something Daniels. You know you're gonna be
uh highlighting him pretty early on.
Speaker 1: I just know somebody's gonna take him to spite me.
I real that's what I would trade for. I would hope,
not because you know, I like to do what Tress
told you, but like I fucking got that guy week
three when he was nothing, no height, no nothing. Okay, again,
he was the fucking like number two draft pick, but
still like like no one had him on like that
was a great sleeper pick and I would like him
back just just for the vibes of it. So maybe
I read the wrong skit. Oh no, this is have
I reworked my brain this much?
Speaker 2: Hang on looking like Canadian football or something.
Speaker 1: No, I swear we were let's see, I don't know
where I saw it. We were first in the Ravens.
That makes note. I thought I looked at maybe the
commander's schedule, But no, I don't know. I'm fucking dumb.
I don't know what happened there. My first game, my
first game the season is against the Lions, so I'm
sure we're gonna get kicked. But you know what doesn't matter, Clay,
because I got multiple I was alive for my team
winning as puerol. You know, I don't know if you'll
be able to see that. Say that, Clay. You know
two years ago, you guys have had your best shot.
Aaron Rodgers did in his third third season, you know,
not too bad. But then the next week we got Commanders,
so that's gonna be interesting, my two teams going up
against each other. So yeah, I'm actually pretty happy with this.
All good. We got the Panthers. Fuck yeah, you always
want the pants. I want to be firing the Panthers. Yeah,
I'm pretty happy with the schedule. Actually, I think we
got other than like we got the Eagles, and yet
we do have the Ravens. I'm pretty happy with. I
think we've got a lot of lower tier teams that well,
that are right now. So got anything else to kill time?
Because we're working for Taylor to be in the show.
He doesn't said anything. I told him were ready, but
you know he's off playing high.
Speaker 2: I still haven't accepted that and or is over. That's
kind of uh been a tough pill to swallow.
Speaker 1: Clay Man and the Discord. Do you see these hot
takes he's dropping?
Speaker 2: Yeah he did?
Speaker 4: What did he say?
Speaker 1: Do you say something else tonight? I thought you maybe
he came around the band or whatnot? Here? Uh plug
the gimmick s pubs I already again again already did
that of course, yeah, gimmick. Yeah. This weekend it's David Sbubbs.
They're gona about variety of stuff because last week was
they did a fucking pay per view on Mother's Day,
which was just like paying for me and s bubs
to plan out. So yeah, so they're gonna do that
because on Saturday's Emily's birthday, and yeah, they're gonna cover
backlash quickly, like that's a week old, but Saturday's main event.
S Pub's going to a Saturday Night's main event soon,
so that's gonna be fun, and some other aw predictions.
Then yeah, Gmode, I'm I'm excited to kick these guys
ass again. You know, I don't even want to say
because there was an episode that I did talk about
and spobs can say this. I did talk about my
strategy because I have told the boys my strategy going
into GM mode, and I think a spob's may be
picked up on it because if you watch the last
four weeks of GMO, you can just see the soul
come out of s Pub's body as he realized what's
happening and it can't be stopped. David's just having a
good time. David, this is first simply into GM mode.
He's just like book it's up and having a good time.
He's injuring his whole roster. But I think s pubs accepting, like,
oh no, I can't stop it. But the thing is this,
in season two, there's gonna be some different ways that
we're playing. So some of my strategy is access to
but I did create Kirkland this week, a new strategy.
I've done three plays throughs with it, from yesterday and
then twice today because I don't want to say I
there's certain things, because the thing is there's things that
Sbub's probably saw that I did, but there's things that
I saw that s bubs did, And now I can
plan for said uh said maneuvers and whatnot. And he's
not gonna get me with X, Y and Z again.
So I think I'm ready. I'm ready to be challenged again.
But yeah, come on, suppose David knock me off my
hill here. I think it's gonna be an easy w
so but this time it's different though, because we played
a whole season in a nine hour stretch. This is
we're gonna play five weeks and then we won't be
back to next month, so there's gonna be like before
you get notes, well, yeah, oh, kirkl I got a
whole I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bring it close
to the screen because I don't want suos to peer.
But I got a whole bible. Oh yeah, look at that.
Look how long that thing is. That's what I got
multiple situations planned out for what could happen if David
does this, if sbobs does this, he takes this guy.
Speaker 2: So like, no, I'm sure David doesn't even have notes,
you know, he's just he's.
Speaker 1: Just he's there for the will will of the Gabe,
you know. So we'll see. But I hope you're prepared.
I'm ready to get another w But yeah, so we're
doing two more seasons. So I've won the first one.
See if I can win this, it's just gonna be
hat trick, you know, That's what it's gonna be. Just
gonna be hat trick.
Speaker 2: So ooh, it's fighting words, I think.
Speaker 1: So so still waiting on Taylor. So it's just killing time. Jeez,
what with your camera? What the fuck is going on
in your camera?
Speaker 2: Let's talk about I think it's like a loose loose
cord or something. Okay, it was a cheap, quick purchase
when we were starting to do this remote things during
COVID and then it's a long time ago that we
should have probably should have got a better camera, but
you know, I'm cheap like that.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess it was four years ago because in
twenty twenty you had, uh, let's pull up our favorite
one where that was this camera Actually it was was
it was oh really it was just a different Kirkland
in the room looking like he's part of the Riddler's
Challenge and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But uh, think you're blonde hair there? That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I've tried and to decide what I'm
gonna do with my hair. I'm very con I am
confused and conflicted because going through the GV tenure, I'm
editing some videos together and every like year, hairstyle is different.
And I've seen like the first hair remember when I
started geeking for my start, when we started geek first,
and it was like I had it's all mine. But no,
when I had like just the shave sides and the
slick back hair, I was like, oh, I want to
do that again. Yeah, nope, no, no, John Ham from
Baby Driver, all right, that's what it is. And then
uh yeah, and then eventually I got to that hair
but I still like this hair going on right now,
So there you go, there's there's Taylor there. But yeah,
so I I I have to decide. I think what
I'm going to do though I want to do the
blonde hair again. But I think what I'm gonna do
is I'm gonna wait for us to film a movie
where I could have a character have that. So it's
like a good justification of like I'm doing that, but
then make it a little bit different because you know, ladies,
Joe and as you've heard, we have a roster of
like six actors, so we kind of have to change
our appearances when we do these movies because it's just
us over and over again with hopefully somebody you know,
all these all these people working for free. So that's
where it's like, that's why I think I'm gonna do
it for one role, don't know what character, but that's
when I'll say do it for then and then, but
I do want to do the uh, the slickback care.
But then same thing, I was gonna start to growing
out because I want to do slickback care. But my
as summer's coming up, I don't want the long hair.
Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, it's tough. It's tough with the heat.
Speaker 1: I supposed to don't even say anything. Calmuse he's scared.
See I I asked him if he got any strategies
or anything like that. You know, listen, because he just said,
throw the gimmick again.
Speaker 2: You know. So what the fuck is.
Speaker 1: Taylor talking about?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is there room test for clay or testing? What the
fuck are you talking about? In stream yard? Now? What
is he going off about?
Speaker 4: This is what he does.
Speaker 1: There's no for people's point of view? Let me let me?
Can I share my screen for streamer? I I can't, right,
I don't know what Taylor's on right now? This is
get a little behind the peak of the wall. Here.
There's two rooms Taylor can go. There's the Weekly Geek
where there's the Mission Apossible Fallout one. And he's still
messaging us, being like, well, run do I going? Where's
the test? What's he talking about? What's he talking about her?
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's talking about. I can't even
help him here.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're gonna end this. So we're gonna
help out our friend because he's a fucking he's been
podcasting for ten years still don't know how to get
into some podcast room. Uh thanks everyone listening. Go check
out all the content of the past week. Go check
out like we said, uh gimmick episode, GMO stream, got
Last of Us coming up. We got Cyquist me and
Don't Talking Doom. Next week we'll have I guess yeah
and or funk. That's done, but mission impossible actually fuck like,
Final Reckoning is here. The Final Reckoning is about to
be reckoned.
Speaker 2: The Final Yeah part two, Dead Wrecking Part two.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Yeah, so we'll be back and it
won't be boring.
Speaker 2: Bye bye