Speaker 1: It's nice Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: All Kyle, thank you very much. We are talking about
Speaker 2: bike lanes in Boston, specifically referring to an interesting column
Speaker 2: in Yesterday's Boston Atte written by old friend Brian McGrory.
Speaker 2: Brian wrote a piece entitled is the Boylston Street bike
Speaker 2: lane really necessary? Well, the answer I think is clear
Speaker 2: in the question the once grand thoroughfare now feels like
Speaker 2: a crowded, unkempt, chaotic mess. Yes it does, and that
Speaker 2: can apply to a lot of other areas. Now, Brian
Speaker 2: is no anti bike lane person, per se. I am
Speaker 2: fit that description much more because I think that city
Speaker 2: streets are for automobiles. They are not for bicycles in
Speaker 2: my opinion. But obviously there is a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 2: We have a Czar of Streets in Boston, and they
Speaker 2: are committed to putting bike lanes everywhere I have been
Speaker 2: in recently, been over in Dorchester, Mattapan, Roxford area, and
Speaker 2: a lot of places where they have bike lanes just
Speaker 2: absolutely unnecessary. Brian McGrory writes specifically specifically about Boylston Street,
Speaker 2: which is such a great, great street. It is one
Speaker 2: of Boston's grand You know, grand commercial thoroughfare. So if
Speaker 2: you've been in Boston lately, love to know how I
Speaker 2: feel about bike lanes. If you're in other parts of
Speaker 2: the country, whether you're in a rural town in Ohio
Speaker 2: or you're in a major city in Michigan. We have
Speaker 2: a lot of listeners in a lot of different places
Speaker 2: around the country. I'd love to know also what you
Speaker 2: think about bike lanes. They are a huge problem in
Speaker 2: Boston in my opinion and in the opinion of many
Speaker 2: of our callers. Six one seven six. Let's go to
Speaker 2: a Boston caller and Joeanne is in East Boston. Joe Anne, welcome,
Speaker 2: How are you tonight?
Speaker 3: Good Dan, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing just great. So you're in East Boston. You
Speaker 2: get some bike lanes over there.
Speaker 4: The bike lanes are on the sidewalk because no one
Speaker 4: wants to drive in the street, so they go flying down.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I live on Bennington Street and it's a great you
Speaker 4: know family. Most of the people that live in the
Speaker 4: houses have been here for years, but also there are
Speaker 4: new people with babies and carriages and dogs, and I
Speaker 4: think the worst part is that there's no room for
Speaker 4: all of this. So we were sitting out the other day.
Speaker 4: Let's just tell you quickly that this neighbor of mine
Speaker 4: had her dog and her baby in the carriage and
Speaker 4: this scooter. The scooters are another thing we have to
Speaker 4: contend with, drying down the street forty miles an hour
Speaker 4: and did not slow down, and you know, we yelled
Speaker 4: at him slow down, and he came back and he
Speaker 4: gave us the you know, flipped us off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically one.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No, he came back a.
Speaker 2: Classic guy, A classy guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, really, classic kid. It's a kid.
Speaker 8: It was a kid.
Speaker 4: So it's these kids. And he came back in front
Speaker 4: of my house four or five times. So not only
Speaker 4: are they intimidating when they are on these wheels, but
Speaker 4: you tell them to slow down and they're in and
Speaker 4: they're furious that who do you think you are? But
Speaker 4: the other problem here is I work on Comass and
Speaker 4: I drive to work because I work at MGH, and
Speaker 4: to contend with number one bike riders that can't ride
Speaker 4: bikes and one and number two is that when there's
Speaker 4: a sign that says that they have the right to
Speaker 4: the full lane, that means in and out, weaving in
Speaker 4: and out. There is a red bike signal to stop,
Speaker 4: rarely ever ever obeyed. And you know right where mass
Speaker 4: av and Newberry Street and that new building are. The
Speaker 4: light goes on for the pedestrians to cross, for the
Speaker 4: cars coming from mass Ave to cut over to the
Speaker 4: mass Pike, and for the bikes to go. And I'm
Speaker 4: sitting there watching this, and I mean, no one's paying attention,
Speaker 4: no one. And if you tell, if I tell the
Speaker 4: bike lane, if I tell the bikes, you have a
Speaker 4: red light. Oh my god, you think.
Speaker 2: They believe that they owed many of the bikes on
Speaker 2: the road.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Literally, they don't pay for the roads, the insurance on
Speaker 2: their viehicle, They don't pay sort of any sort of
Speaker 2: like gas taxes to support the roads. But they feel
Speaker 2: that they have a right to do whatever they want
Speaker 2: and they don't comply. Many of them do not comply
Speaker 2: with red lights. And some of them find themselves in situations,
Speaker 2: sadly where they get injured on bikes because they have
Speaker 2: been ready to believe that they are impervious and they
Speaker 2: can do whatever they want. And it's sad every time
Speaker 2: I hear a story about some bicyclist who has been
Speaker 2: hit by a truck taking away. Yeah, yeah, you were
Speaker 2: you thinking? Were you aware of what was going on?
Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't want to say so.
Speaker 4: They're changing Dan, they're changing the signals so you can't
Speaker 4: turn right on red anymore. But that's that's for cars,
Speaker 4: because bikes don't follow that. The other point is, you
Speaker 4: know what's wrong with taking taking some lessons on learning
Speaker 4: how to ride a bike or get a license if
Speaker 4: you want to ride in the street. And I know
Speaker 4: that's not popular amongst any bike but although.
Speaker 2: The bike, the bike riders, the bicyclists want to be
Speaker 2: free to use whatever road they want. They do not
Speaker 2: feel they have to pay anything insurance, any sort of registration.
Speaker 2: And if a bike bike, it has happened to people,
Speaker 2: happens to impact your car, scratch your car, or God forbid,
Speaker 2: take out the mirror on your car, you're in the hook.
Speaker 2: And if you have a two hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 2: five hundred dollars deductible in your automobile insurance, you're gonna
Speaker 2: you're gonna pay for them, and they're just gonna merely
Speaker 2: drive away and you have no way of identified them,
Speaker 2: and I identify them. They have become a very powerful
Speaker 2: political lobby, and they show their strength in Boston and
Speaker 2: in different parts of the city. What I don't understand
Speaker 2: is how people in West Roxbury have allowed Semistry to
Speaker 2: be taken over by bike lanes.
Speaker 4: Well because they need the mayor. So, I mean, the
Speaker 4: mayor would never allow half the things that she's allowing
Speaker 4: in Boston next to her house. So we all say,
Speaker 4: you know, do you want a twenty twenty condo building
Speaker 4: next to your house? N answer would be no. Do
Speaker 4: you want to pop up restaurant next to your house?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: So I mean it's it's just ironic that we continue
Speaker 4: to have to suffer for these kind of innovations that
Speaker 4: go great somewhere else but not in Boston.
Speaker 2: Well, they might be great in the city like Phoenix,
Speaker 2: which has big, wide streets and weather, you know, eleven
Speaker 2: months out of the air at sunny and Phoenix and
Speaker 2: you have a few rainstorms at at different times, but
Speaker 2: it's not Boston, right, not Boston. But guess when someone
Speaker 2: gets elected mayor, they have four years to do whatever
Speaker 2: the heck they want, and she certainly has in terms
Speaker 2: of bikelines.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you, but one more thing. Do you see
Speaker 4: wheelchairs now have any right to the road because they
Speaker 4: can't even get through. And I think that was brought
Speaker 4: up in the Globe, and I think it was on
Speaker 4: your show when you have Flynn on a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago, where they were talking about there's no advocacy
Speaker 4: for anybody that's disabled in a wheelchair. Now it's by
Speaker 4: reserve to bike lanes, but where the wheelchairs.
Speaker 2: Go nowhere, Nowhere. Again, you do not have a wheelchair lobby.
Speaker 2: You have a bike lobby and politicians right lobby to
Speaker 2: political lobbies. That's it's simple. It's as simple as that, Joey.
Speaker 2: Look at what's happened to the restaurant owners in the
Speaker 2: North End. They basically be rolled over by the mayor's
Speaker 2: They said, you don't want to participate, you don't want
Speaker 2: to play and do what we say we will. We
Speaker 2: just roll over you. This mayor's made a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of different constituencies mad whether or not someone's
Speaker 2: going to step up, we will have we will have
Speaker 2: to see. I certainly hope that the mayor does not
Speaker 2: have a free ride because that will only embolden her
Speaker 2: to put bike lanes through people's living rooms. Run.
Speaker 4: I hope I help Flynn runs I hope Flynn runs
Speaker 4: because I'll vote and work on his campaign.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, if that's listening a situation.
Speaker 4: Dan, Dan, if you want to talk about East Boston,
Speaker 4: you call me anytime, because I'm an advocate here and
Speaker 4: I'm constantly, you know, trying to bring attention to not
Speaker 4: blaming people. But let's take responsibility as shared responsibility, that
Speaker 4: we're working together and it's not one section pitted against another.
Speaker 4: But that's what's happening. And I love your show.
Speaker 3: By the way, so well, Joey, thank.
Speaker 2: You so much. Please call more often. I love your calls.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 4: I will do that.
Speaker 2: Take a care to tell your neighbors about night Side.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to sit in front of
Speaker 2: the boob tube and just watch. They can participate.
Speaker 4: I just put it on Facebook. I just call them.
Speaker 4: Than take care, Okay.
Speaker 2: Good night, We'll keep rolling here. The only well, I
Speaker 2: got one line hoping that Joeanne was on six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty and two lines at six one, seven, nine, three,
Speaker 2: one ten thirty. I got Bill and Lexington Paul and
Speaker 2: need him coming up in this room for you. We're
Speaker 2: talking about bikes in Boston. And when The Boston Globe
Speaker 2: former editor Brian McGrory agrees with me, he's not an
Speaker 2: anti bike person. I'm not an anti bike person either,
Speaker 2: but I think it's way out of control. And Brian
Speaker 2: McGrory and Yesterday's Globe on b one above the fold says,
Speaker 2: is the Boylston Street bike lane really necessary? They will
Speaker 2: kill the city of Boston. They will kill the city
Speaker 2: of Boston with bike lanes and all of these people
Speaker 2: who want more and more bikes. There's some bicyclists out there,
Speaker 2: but they are way out numbered by drivers. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 2: car car drivers don't have the lobby that bike lanes do.
Speaker 2: We'll continue the conversation. If you think that Boston needs
Speaker 2: more bike lanes, I'd love to hear from you. We're
Speaker 2: coming back on Nightside. If you're from West Roxbury, way
Speaker 2: in you people have been rolled in rest wa wes
Speaker 2: Roxbury because frankly you don't have any representation in city
Speaker 2: council anymore that represents West Roxbury. Got you basically get
Speaker 2: outnumbered by the progressives in Jamaica. Plane We'll be back
Speaker 2: on Nightside six one, seven, nine thirty only lines available
Speaker 2: Back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: to night side studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: It's funny tonight all of our calls have been from Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: Very rarely do we have a program without any out
Speaker 2: of state calls. We have stuck with local issues tonight,
Speaker 2: primarily these the Steward healthcare crisis here in Massachusetts and
Speaker 2: now bike lanes in downtown Austin. But if you want
Speaker 2: to weigh in from another region of the country, love
Speaker 2: to know if you are infested with the number of
Speaker 2: bike lanes or infected. I'm not sure which word you
Speaker 2: want to use. As we are here in Boston, it
Speaker 2: is incredible ount of pavement in a relatively small city
Speaker 2: like Boston. Physically geographically we're big city, but it's a
Speaker 2: small area. It's only a city that's about five or
Speaker 2: six seven eight miles wide and maybe about ten or
Speaker 2: eleven miles from East Boston down to the lower tip
Speaker 2: of Hyde Park in Readville, and yet bike lanes are everywhere.
Speaker 2: Let's go next to Bill and Lexington. He wants to
Speaker 2: talk about bikes as well. Hey Bill, how are you, sir?
Speaker 10: I'm okay, how you doing.
Speaker 2: We're just great. I don't know if you get a
Speaker 2: chance to get into Boston, but Lifton on what you
Speaker 2: think about Boston's desire for more and more bike lanes.
Speaker 10: I am more all over Boston in the metro area.
Speaker 10: I've been driving for thirty plus years. I've never once
Speaker 10: been like, huh, we need bike lanes. There's so many
Speaker 10: bikes out here, there's between.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the point, you know, when you think about
Speaker 2: the amount of asphalt or or city streets that are
Speaker 2: given to bike lanes and compare that. I mean if
Speaker 2: we were Amsterdam where everybody was in a bike, fine,
Speaker 2: get rid of cars and go to bikes. That's eight
Speaker 2: percent of the vehicles on the road in Boston, and
Speaker 2: an ave given day of are automobiles. But automobiles don't
Speaker 2: have ninety percent of the pavement or the asphalt.
Speaker 10: One hundred percent in the millions of dollars that go
Speaker 10: into painting the bike lanes. And it's not just in Boston,
Speaker 10: it's all around. To go twenty miles out side of
Speaker 10: Boshington and they're painting bike lanes on state roads and
Speaker 10: how many bikes do I ever see on them? One?
Speaker 10: Maybe on a Sunday, not Monday through shadowy Yeah, it's
Speaker 10: it's it's very like, huh, why we wasting got money
Speaker 10: on this?
Speaker 2: Well, we're wasting our money on it because politicians respond
Speaker 2: to political lobbyists, and the bike bicycle lobby has been
Speaker 2: very effective in Boston. They basically have rolled many of
Speaker 2: the political leaders, including Mayor.
Speaker 10: Wou You couldn't have said a better dam And that's
Speaker 10: some big problem in the whole world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think it's going to get better
Speaker 2: anytime soon in Boston in my opinion.
Speaker 10: You can't. You can't be dumbing money at politicians and
Speaker 10: have them both the way their constituents want. You need
Speaker 10: to ask you situents like it's just it is. It's
Speaker 10: kind of crazy. I would like to personally see a
Speaker 10: bike lane built through the CEO of Stuart Healthcare's bank
Speaker 10: account and maybe have some of the bike was staged back,
Speaker 10: some of the money, Like why do you get these
Speaker 10: multimillion dollar bonuses when you you can't produce and make
Speaker 10: money at a hospital.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that if the politicians paid
Speaker 2: more attention and what was going on with Stewart Healthcare
Speaker 2: as opposed to paving paving the road with bicycle lanes,
Speaker 2: we'd all be better, but.
Speaker 10: Hey, better empty. They're all empty. I mean, love you,
Speaker 10: love you if you bike to work. Yeah, like i'd
Speaker 10: be honestly.
Speaker 2: Thanks Bill, appreciate you call. I have a great ongod
Speaker 2: night pleasure all right, right back, got you. Uh, look,
Speaker 2: we can always add a little humor here. But if
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to laugh, you bought to cry. Because
Speaker 2: I think Boston is being really railroaded with this. All
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I got a bunch of open lines.
Speaker 2: Couple of folks drop off, Let's fill them up. Six one, seven, two,
Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I think this is a really important topic. It's going
Speaker 2: to be interesting whether or not we're going to hear
Speaker 2: from any other listener in any other state. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: only Boston that has the problems. Let me go to
Speaker 2: Sandy in West Roxbury, and I suspect that Sandy is
Speaker 2: not thrilled with the bike lane proliferation and Center Street
Speaker 2: in West Roxbury. Hi, Sandy, how are.
Speaker 5: You quite well? Welcome back to Italy.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the two main problems are one that
Speaker 5: most people don't vote. I think in the last election,
Speaker 5: what percent of Bostonians voted because everybodyisms is no point.
Speaker 5: But I think people, I mean I've not met many people,
Speaker 5: hardly any that like may Wou. And the other thing
Speaker 5: about her is you can't get through to her at all.
Speaker 5: I've called several times. She will not take my call.
Speaker 5: I've been approached by several of her lackeys that want
Speaker 5: meetings with me because I've considered a leader because of
Speaker 5: the historical society, and they take copious notes and you
Speaker 5: never hear from them again. You can't disagree with her,
Speaker 5: She'll fire you. And what you said about the city council,
Speaker 5: we have no representation at all.
Speaker 2: You have a city councilor that is assigned to west Roxbury.
Speaker 2: And if west Roxbury doesn't want to get out and
Speaker 2: vote your city councilor. I think also where presents part
Speaker 2: of make complane.
Speaker 5: He doesn't care about what doctory you know? He But
Speaker 5: the thing is you can't disagree with her because if
Speaker 5: he did, and I don't think he does anyway, but
Speaker 5: if he did, I mean she would just you know,
Speaker 5: cold shoulder him. And you know he's doing all these
Speaker 5: things that that she wants. That's how she runs it.
Speaker 5: Mae Andnino, who's the only one I really knew. Well,
Speaker 5: he was so approachable. I mean he show up places
Speaker 5: and you go up and talk to him face to face,
Speaker 5: and his word meant something. If he said he was
Speaker 5: going to do something, he didn't and if he didn't
Speaker 5: like something, he'd tell you right then.
Speaker 2: And Nadia face and Tomnina was a great mayor.
Speaker 5: Well, he cared about the city. She doesn't. She doesn't
Speaker 5: care about at all. Dirty or she's stupid.
Speaker 2: The one thing I know about Tom Minino, and I
Speaker 2: know tom Nino very well, he loved being mayor.
Speaker 5: Yeah he did.
Speaker 2: That was the epitome of his career. He had no
Speaker 2: aspiration to go anywhere beyond mayor, beyond the mayor of Boston.
Speaker 2: I cannot say that about the current mayor.
Speaker 5: Clearly, I think she knows better than anybody. And you
Speaker 5: know that's the whole attitude of the city council.
Speaker 2: But Mayor Wu, I think is counting the days until
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren decides to give up her sendency. Or Eddie
Speaker 2: Marky because she sees herself as Senator Wu in Washington.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, I don't either, but I think that's what her
Speaker 2: aspiration is she is not gonna be she would serve
Speaker 2: two terms if if, if she's lucky enough to be
Speaker 2: re elected, and that will be it. Because she feels
Speaker 2: that from an actual oarial point of view, either Marky
Speaker 2: or Warren are going to have to give up their
Speaker 2: Senate seat and now there'll be a competition. I think
Speaker 2: Governor Healy might be interested in it. I think that
Speaker 2: Joe Kennedy might want to make a comeback. But well,
Speaker 2: we will see.
Speaker 5: But that's what Mayor is looking at. Well, I mean,
Speaker 5: we have a few now, but for the most part,
Speaker 5: they're not strong enough. They don't have the money, and
Speaker 5: they don't you know, they just feel like people aren't
Speaker 5: going to vote. And I think most people, I mean
Speaker 5: I was an avowed Democrat. I think most people wore
Speaker 5: but Democratic Party, you know, isn't what it used to be.
Speaker 5: It's ridiculous, you know.
Speaker 2: Well it's you know, they talk about how we got
Speaker 2: to be We've got to have to have transparency and
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's an autocrat and we don't like authoritarians and autocrats.
Speaker 2: But look what has happened.
Speaker 5: Here is the worst autocrat that I've ever and Kamala
Speaker 5: I mean and and then she goes and steals his ideas.
Speaker 5: That's that's all he's going to do.
Speaker 2: We talked about that, We talked about that last Yes,
Speaker 2: I just joke. I think it's amazing that the vice
Speaker 2: president has become the nominee of the Democratic Party without
Speaker 2: ever campaigning for the job, without.
Speaker 5: Ever the last night that way, Well, I.
Speaker 2: I truly consider it to be miraculous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, what do you call it? The immaculate?
Speaker 5: I mean, the whole thing is a joke. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know what everything they say about I mean, no,
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody likes Trump. It's a person.
Speaker 2: He's at me that The phrase I'm using is the
Speaker 2: immaculate nomination.
Speaker 5: Immaculate nomination. But you know, Trump knows what he's doing.
Speaker 5: He made the country a safer, better place. And Joe
Speaker 5: Biden I don't. I don't know if he's dirty or not,
Speaker 5: but either way, he is stupid. And that's not a
Speaker 5: nice word, I know, But you know.
Speaker 2: It's I think we can we cant that a little bit.
Speaker 2: City We could. We could say that he's lost a
Speaker 2: little off his fastball.
Speaker 5: Well I don't think he ever had anything.
Speaker 2: Well, we could say that too, but we don't want
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 5: He's stupid, right, No, it's a bad word, and I
Speaker 5: feel bad about it.
Speaker 2: We can strike that from the record, Okay, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, but no, the people of the worst, the constituents
Speaker 5: of the country, because I don't see what's happening right
Speaker 5: in front of Well.
Speaker 2: I looked at the voter turnout in West Roxbury. Yeah,
Speaker 2: last mayoral race in city council election, and it's not
Speaker 2: the West Roxbury that I once knew. It's not the
Speaker 2: West Roxbury that used to have, you know, political rallies
Speaker 2: on the night before primaries and the night before elections
Speaker 2: that we come.
Speaker 5: Well, everybody was a Democrat, but it was a good
Speaker 5: thing to be a Democrat in those days. You know,
Speaker 5: all the maze that I knew. But especially Menino listened.
Speaker 5: They didn't impose she doesn't listen at all.
Speaker 2: Not only doesn't she listen, doesn't mayor will listen, but
Speaker 2: Mayor lou Will then enjoys the confrontation she had, the
Speaker 2: confrontation with the North End restaurant owners. And you you
Speaker 2: upset a sufficient number of people, and your road to
Speaker 2: reelection can be tough. But we'll see, we'll see. You
Speaker 2: got to call more often, Sandy, Okay, you got to
Speaker 2: wake some of your people up in West Roxbury, but
Speaker 2: we're awake.
Speaker 5: But you know, it just feels like an uphill battle cliffs.
Speaker 5: She's obleak, terribly oblique, and you can't get you can't
Speaker 5: get through to her, and you can't get through to
Speaker 5: anybody who works for her, because you know, if you
Speaker 5: hadn't minute, can I tell you that when she invited
Speaker 5: me for lunch? Do you have a minute for that?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 5: So one day I get this email, the May wants
Speaker 5: to invite you, and I almost clicked it off because
Speaker 5: I thought it's another one of these zom things. And
Speaker 5: I opened up the dacy, Andy, the May wants to
Speaker 5: invite you to lunch at the old Ale House on
Speaker 5: Center Street and touch and Touch a day please, RSVP.
Speaker 5: So I thought, what is this? So I emailed a
Speaker 5: few people I knew, and they know they hadn't been invited.
Speaker 5: So then I called back and I said, yes, I'd
Speaker 5: like to come, but why was I invited? Well, it
Speaker 5: turns out she invited the presidents of all the associations,
Speaker 5: so they're about fourteen or fifteen of us. So we
Speaker 5: were supposed to get another email, please be there by
Speaker 5: quarter of twelve. The mayor is never late, so by
Speaker 5: quarter or twelve, there's about fifteen of us standing outside
Speaker 5: the Old Aalehouse. And by twelve and by twelve o'clock
Speaker 5: nothing had happened. So I tried the doors and the
Speaker 5: doors were locked. So about ten minutes past, I said,
Speaker 5: something's wrong. I knew it wasn't me because we were
Speaker 5: all there and she wasn't. And so I don't have
Speaker 5: one of those films, but other people do where they
Speaker 5: can check their email. So at the last minute she
Speaker 5: changed the venue and I'm sure she never connected with
Speaker 5: the Old Lalehouse, but at any rate, so it was
Speaker 5: at this place. I won't mention the name because it
Speaker 5: was horrendous. So I got there meeting with the twelve.
Speaker 5: I got there twenty minutes to one, and they stopped
Speaker 5: serving lunch. That had you know, we'd been about a lunch.
Speaker 5: So there are about twelve of us in the horseshoe
Speaker 5: configuration and half the table got served full meal beginning
Speaker 5: to end. I didn't even get a plate. Nobody on
Speaker 5: my side of the table got a plate. Okay, no food,
Speaker 5: no nothing, So I was shaking it this time, I
Speaker 5: was so angry. So she at one o'clock on the dark,
Speaker 5: sa I have to go. I have another meeting. So
Speaker 5: she runs with her eighteen peep. There were more of
Speaker 5: her people than there were of us, And so I
Speaker 5: went up to one of the waiters and I said,
Speaker 5: what's going on? Why did only half the table get
Speaker 5: served or play season? And he said, well, that's what
Speaker 5: they told us to do. And he said, I'll make
Speaker 5: you a plate right now. You'll take it home. I
Speaker 5: said no, no, I wasn't at him, but.
Speaker 2: Well that was pretty poor planning. Hey, Sandy, I'm way
Speaker 2: into my newscast. Remind me I got to take a break.
Speaker 5: Interesting story people point, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Surrounds yourself with bad people, arrogant and incompetent. That's not
Speaker 2: a good combination. Not a good combination. Thanks Andy, talk.
Speaker 5: To you, they ca, thank bye bye.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Kyle, let's get right back to the Coles calls.
Speaker 2: We have full lines. Let's see what everybody wants to
Speaker 2: talk about. Karen and Wisconsin. Karen, you are next on nightside.
Speaker 2: Got any bike lanes in Madison, Wisconsin?
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I've got them behind my house. And then
Speaker 11: they decided to take my avenue and spend a year
Speaker 11: and a half redoing it to put a bike lane
Speaker 11: in when there's one right behind the house, so they
Speaker 11: could call it loop around the lake. You know, it's
Speaker 11: more fun to have water while you bike, So I
Speaker 11: guess we have to go a block back.
Speaker 2: Maybe they should put they should put a bike lane
Speaker 2: through the lake and see how they would do driving
Speaker 2: on their bike lane right through the lake.
Speaker 11: I have more trouble with the trains here. They don't
Speaker 11: put any signals up to tell you there's train coming
Speaker 11: that that.
Speaker 2: Could be a real problem, Tarn. I've seen some of
Speaker 2: those train accidents.
Speaker 11: I saw it coming and there was nothing telling me
Speaker 11: one was coming.
Speaker 8: But I hope that's I do.
Speaker 11: I will just say I wonder how she really likes it,
Speaker 11: because she's got to be she's living right on top
Speaker 11: of West Roxbury. Unless she's only going into Boston proper
Speaker 11: and back, she's living right there outside of Rosie Square. Yeah, roaches,
Speaker 11: you know, right down the street and I hear roach.
Speaker 11: How can people I talk? I don't talk to a
Speaker 11: million people, but I lived there. I know what west
Speaker 11: Roxbury's like.
Speaker 8: I can.
Speaker 11: I can tell you people don't even want to go
Speaker 11: into roads because they've got it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeahangerous. Now center Street. I've been on Center Street.
Speaker 11: I mean, I think that's the roach. I would say,
Speaker 11: I'll see it road.
Speaker 2: Street. Absolutely, that's when I'm back in Boston. That's where
Speaker 2: I go to shop.
Speaker 11: That's and and I can't see how the you know,
Speaker 11: all the restaurants, the things that are still in West
Speaker 11: Roxbury are going to survive with this. And and she
Speaker 11: lives right by the what does she do ride or
Speaker 11: bike to West Roxbury?
Speaker 2: I guess I don't think she gets to West Roxbury
Speaker 2: very much. I think to a nice indoor parking space
Speaker 2: at city Hall. Hey, Karen, I got a run. We'll
Speaker 2: talk soon. Stay safe and stay well.
Speaker 11: I will you too, Dane.
Speaker 2: We're gonna let's let's go down the cape. Larry and Dennisport. Larry,
Speaker 2: welcome next on night Side.
Speaker 10: How are you hi? Dan Taylor?
Speaker 6: So you know we have the rail trail over here,
Speaker 6: and but I want to mention my son is a
Speaker 6: homicide detective in the Boston Police Department and he spent
Speaker 6: quite a few years in the vehicular homicide unit. Here's
Speaker 6: the problem. Cyclists have to obey every rule of the road,
Speaker 6: just like a car does that they don't, well, they're
Speaker 6: supposed to know. Sure, So you mentioned one of the problems.
Speaker 6: So a truck or a vehicle comes up to a
Speaker 6: red light wants to take a right on red, which
Speaker 6: I guess they're eliminating all of those, but in other
Speaker 6: areas you could still do it. But they look to
Speaker 6: the left, no car coming, They take a right turn,
Speaker 6: and the cyclist in his bike lane, which gives him
Speaker 6: a false sense of security. These the red light doesn't matter.
Speaker 6: He goes straight through. It ends up under the truck.
Speaker 6: Whose fault is it. It's always the vehicle. It's always
Speaker 6: the car or the truck's fault. It's a terrible, terrible situation.
Speaker 6: So I'll end it with this one. I still have
Speaker 6: some doctors up in that area, and one of my
Speaker 6: doctors moved to a new office on Broadway in Somerville.
Speaker 6: Have you seen what they did to that one?
Speaker 2: No? I can just imagine in Summerville.
Speaker 6: It must be yeah, same thing. They got those white
Speaker 6: lines and I couldn't even find the entrance into the
Speaker 6: doctor's office. You know what I said.
Speaker 2: They have those stanchions that you have to park outside.
Speaker 6: Right, those white picket fences all along broad So to
Speaker 6: solve the problem, I just found a new doctor.
Speaker 2: Well it's too bad that you have to find a
Speaker 2: new doctor. That is not easy to do in Massachusetts.
Speaker 10: I know, I know.
Speaker 6: But on the rail trail here. You've been on Cape
Speaker 6: Cod right, you know what it's like. They come through
Speaker 6: the rail trail, they get to the crossings, whether it's
Speaker 6: Deepot Street or whatever street it is, they're supposed to
Speaker 6: stop and walk their bike. If they're walking their bike
Speaker 6: in a crosswalk, they're considered a pedestrian. But if you're
Speaker 6: riding on a crosswalk, you're not a pedestrian and you
Speaker 6: don't have the right of way.
Speaker 2: Well, they do some crazy things.
Speaker 6: And again, and I'm an avid cyclist.
Speaker 2: No I understand, No, I know that, But you're a
Speaker 2: responsible Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, you know what the difference is. You know what
Speaker 6: I did. Now, I don't like riding in the roads.
Speaker 6: I switched to my mountain bike and ninety percent of
Speaker 6: my riding is in the gorgeous wooden trails of Cape Cod.
Speaker 2: You know something, You're a wise man.
Speaker 6: Someday.
Speaker 2: Great, dear you boys. Thanks, Okay, we'll talk soon.
Speaker 6: All right, Thanks, all right, Dan, alright, bye bye.
Speaker 2: Good night. Okay, Okay, we'll get one more in here
Speaker 2: before the break. Let me go to in in San Antonio,
Speaker 2: Texas in you were next on nightside.
Speaker 8: Welcome back, Hi, Dan, how are you good? Very good?
Speaker 8: Thank you. This is a pity call. I'm so sorry
Speaker 8: for what's going on. It's really just awful. It's terrible representation.
Speaker 8: The arrogance of it all is astounding.
Speaker 2: Do you have do you have many bike lanes popping up?
Speaker 6: And don't have any?
Speaker 8: And I just hope it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: Well, if you get if you get some progressive city
Speaker 2: councils or god forbid, a progressive mayor in San Antonio,
Speaker 2: you'll you'll, yeah, they will, they will.
Speaker 8: Pop up, whether you like it or yeah, and be crazy.
Speaker 8: I can't vote for our mayor because I live in
Speaker 8: the town, mayor county, but you know, I'm in San
Speaker 8: Antonio and he's been a wonderful mayor. Though Mayor ron Nurrenberg.
Speaker 8: He's been wonderful, but this is his last year and
Speaker 8: the three people that are going to be running at
Speaker 8: this point are.
Speaker 2: Not are not. All you need, well, all you need
Speaker 2: is one, you know, one good candidate who's going to say, hey,
Speaker 2: we're not going to trip the roads over the bicycles.
Speaker 2: That's all. But up here it is in up here,
Speaker 2: it is just wild. I mean, there's more, yeah, bike
Speaker 2: lanes than there are traffic lanes. And if you get
Speaker 2: a chance to rud Brian mcgrory's piece in the Globe yesterday,
Speaker 2: Brian is very progressive on most of these issues, and
Speaker 2: he says in the Globe piece that he's talking but
Speaker 2: at some point you got to say, whoa wait, hold it.
Speaker 12: Stock the quality of life is is really taken a
Speaker 12: down turn to think that they don't even have uh
Speaker 12: handicap accessible. Uh that's terrible. Well I just can't imagine.
Speaker 2: Well, don't come to Boston. Trust me.
Speaker 8: Well, we've had we've had visitors down here and they're
Speaker 8: they're talking about the bike lanes and all the traffic
Speaker 8: that uber and and you're right, and it's very sad.
Speaker 8: It's very sad, and it's.
Speaker 2: Not getting any better, and thank you so much. We
Speaker 2: actually had we have like a bikes are in Boston.
Speaker 2: We have a rats are and a bikes are. That
Speaker 2: says a lot about Boston if you want.
Speaker 8: Who well, you know what your called what your caller
Speaker 8: said about her luncheon with the mayor that that was astounding,
Speaker 8: and see it said something else as well, and uh,
Speaker 8: I can't remember what it was now, but uh it
Speaker 8: was a good call day and us.
Speaker 2: Is a good call as well. Keeping keeping contact with
Speaker 2: you later. Okay, we do have a break. We got
Speaker 2: in on and off, but we're a little bit late,
Speaker 2: so let's go to the break. We're gonna get Michael,
Speaker 2: Laurie and g O w in. I am gonna try
Speaker 2: and I think we can do it back on nights
Speaker 2: out after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios.
Speaker 2: On w b Z News Radio. All right, let's try
Speaker 2: to get everybody in here. We're gonna go next to
Speaker 2: Laurie in Idol. Got the bike lings out Idaho.
Speaker 3: Laurie, Well, no, because there's a sign when you enter
Speaker 3: the city where I live. This says, you know what,
Speaker 3: pedestrians and michaelists bicyclists have the right of way no
Speaker 3: matter what. So it's kind of like back in the day.
Speaker 3: I remember back in the day, Boston was kind of
Speaker 3: the city and said, if a pedestrian drops out of
Speaker 3: the sky and you hit the pedestrian, your fault. And
Speaker 3: so that's that's kind of like, yeah, here the the
Speaker 3: the buckers and the bikers how the right away. But
Speaker 3: everybody seems to kind of respect each other. And it's
Speaker 3: not certainly it's not a huge city. And what we
Speaker 3: do not have is a mayor WU which helps everything. Still,
Speaker 3: it's it's interesting. It just seems like everybody kind of
Speaker 3: gets along and the bicycles do their thing, and they're
Speaker 3: not allowed to ride on the sidewalk. They have to
Speaker 3: ride on the streets. And they have changed parking a
Speaker 3: little bit, so there's some more room for the bicyclers.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so I would think, I mean, so, I mean, so,
Speaker 3: what is what is WU envisioning. I'm guessing there's not
Speaker 3: like a peloton of bicyclists commuting to work every morning
Speaker 3: in Boston and those bike lanes.
Speaker 2: Right no, particularly in the winter when it's snowy, well
Speaker 2: just not No, they've allocated probably twenty five percent of
Speaker 2: the city's street surfaces to the bike lanes and just ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's it's not being used, right, but they don't care.
Speaker 2: Those bike lanes are never going away.
Speaker 3: Wow yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's you'll see them when
Speaker 3: you come back, you know.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 3: And I can admit it. I can envision them. I'm
Speaker 3: familiar with the arion A letter stuff and I just
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine. And everybody who calls, well, I
Speaker 3: might see one bicycles a day in them, and she
Speaker 3: just is not backing down.
Speaker 2: No, no, she's not backing down on anything. And hey,
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. I mean, the bike lanes support
Speaker 2: the bicycles. It's a very powerful lobby. It's as simple
Speaker 2: as that. And it can it can, it can influence
Speaker 2: a city election. And that's that's what she's mean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, you see Lloyd Love You gotta go here.
Speaker 2: I got two more going to try to get in Okaya.
Speaker 3: Good night, welcome back back.
Speaker 2: Thanks thanks so much, Michael and Aiboro. Michael got room
Speaker 2: for you in one more.
Speaker 6: Please go ahead, Michael, me Dan.
Speaker 9: I'm on this website. Senna Street Post construction re routing
Speaker 9: three percent of the time versus point three percent preconstruction.
Speaker 9: But here it's just parking reduced by seven spaces on
Speaker 9: Center and two on Belgrade, and a DA space is
Speaker 9: increased by one, which ridiculous plants add three more. I've
Speaker 9: been over there.
Speaker 13: There's a few spots oddball spots down near Rah that
Speaker 13: famous donut shop that.
Speaker 3: We in Duet in his donuts, right, yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's like ten bucks.
Speaker 2: It's a little more expensive than me. I'm sticking with Duncan's.
Speaker 2: But that's that's just the point of personal preference.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, anyway, and may good but maybe not that good. Okay, right, anyway, anyway, the.
Speaker 9: That area and a couple out of the years with
Speaker 9: the curved.
Speaker 13: Stats to uh become rounded so you can mark the
Speaker 13: side street, they did a thing where the bikes them
Speaker 13: against the curb and they made packing.
Speaker 2: Right. You got to park in the middle of the
Speaker 2: street and you got a hope that you're near a meter.
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 9: Chance of being killed. I'm only cutting off because chance
Speaker 9: of being killed when struck by a driver as curious
Speaker 9: speeds by age.
Speaker 2: About I don't want. I hope no one gets killed. Michael.
Speaker 2: I got to get one more in my friend earlier.
Speaker 2: More time.
Speaker 6: Okay, you why you know why she's getting back in there.
Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm here. Yeah, I'll give you five more seconds.
Speaker 6: Fight the Asian businessman.
Speaker 9: We haven't edity.
Speaker 2: I don't really think so, Mike. I think that's got
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it. Thanks for the call, Geo, Geo,
Speaker 2: you're late.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Dan, Which one doesn't belong We all went
Speaker 7: to Rome, Geo, Dan Ray, Tommy Menino, and Fred schell
Speaker 7: Vuci from MIT who planned the big gig. Which one
Speaker 7: doesn't belong Dan Ray, who went to Rome and failed
Speaker 7: to come back, describing Rome as a walking city with
Speaker 7: bicycles and without cars.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, first of all, Rome does have cars. Okay,
Speaker 2: and I don't know when you were last in Rome,
Speaker 2: but they it is a walkable city. But don't get
Speaker 2: in front of the cars in room, Geo, or I
Speaker 2: won't have you as a caller anymore.
Speaker 7: When you went to the did you go to the
Speaker 7: Trevy Fountain? Of course, cars from the Trevy Fountain.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's that's one area. That's one area of Rome.
Speaker 2: So you're right on Trevy Fountain. But again, Geo on
Speaker 2: the mistake and never in doubt. Buddy, great to hear
Speaker 2: your voice. Gotta go. Thanks J I appreciate it. Okay,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Geo is amazing. What do we got?
Speaker 2: Thirty thirty? So okay, great, we're done Geo early, we
Speaker 2: get have more time. You're a fun caller. We're done
Speaker 2: for the night. I thank Rob. I'll also thank our
Speaker 2: new producer tonight, Dan Tantano did a great job under
Speaker 2: the tutelage of Rob. Back tomorrow night. Everybody. I got
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Speaker 2: You loved them, and I believe you will see them again.
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