WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:08.720 Well whiskey coming, Take pain, money, Oh don't. 2 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:15.359 From power Line blog dot com and produced by Ricochet 3 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:20.359 dot Com. This is the Three Whiskey Happy Hour with 4 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:26.039 your bartenders Steve Hayward, John You and power Lines International 5 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:28.879 Woman of Mystery Lucretia. 6 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:30.160 Cat gotta giving. 7 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:34.759 Let that whiskey bloat when you're being in love, down 8 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:41.719 and low. Welcome everyone to this really really super special 9 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:45.560 edition of They're all special of the Three Whiskey Happy Hour. 10 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:48.679 We're all drinking whiskey even though we're in different time 11 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:53.560 zones across the world yet again. John is in an 12 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:57.439 undisclosed bunker in Washington, d C. Steve is on a 13 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:00.240 float in the middle of some Norwegian fume. 14 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.039 Ord j Ord, and I am. 15 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:10.159 Trying to rescue my mouse from Nixy, who keeps I 16 00:01:10.280 --> 00:01:14.359 have cats playing on the YouTube video on another screen 17 00:01:14.439 --> 00:01:16.400 to try to keep her occupied, but it's not working. 18 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:18.359 But you know, she's not leaving my side because she's 19 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:23.560 really worried about those Haitians. So how are you guys today? 20 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:28.680 I think we should. 21 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:34.000 Go ahead, John, I was gonna say, to keep the 22 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:37.680 cat occupied, you should just start showing it pictures of 23 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.319 Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris. 24 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:45.400 She hates Taylor Swift. She thinks Taylor Swift sounds worse 25 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.480 and when she's screaming in the middle of the night 26 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:50.840 in her cat language. So but she has good taste, 27 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:56.079 that's why. So it's been quite a week yet again, 28 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:01.000 and when when the Three Whiskey Happy Hour finally managed 29 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.640 to get together, we actually really like each other, we do. 30 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:06.159 It just seems like we can never find a time 31 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:10.560 that works out for everybody. We are coming very late 32 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:15.599 to debate. Punditry Steve said, it's old news. John wanted 33 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:17.919 to talk about it. I said, I'm splitting the baby 34 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:19.680 because we're not going to talk about the debate. I 35 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:23.879 do believe that one's been beat to death, that poor horse. 36 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:28.159 But it is now five six days after the debate, 37 00:02:28.719 --> 00:02:32.919 and we're seeing some weird fallout, weirder than ever. A 38 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:38.680 people say debates rarely matter. Nineteen sixty the debate with 39 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.120 Trump and Biden probably was very significant, but not because 40 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:45.360 of the topics of the debate, shall we say, but 41 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:52.560 simply because it produced an undeniable truth that Biden was 42 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:55.199 senile and that he had been seen now for a 43 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:56.919 while and all the people who told us that he 44 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:00.879 wasn't we're lying to us. And then, of course they 45 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.039 flipped quite quickly, as quickly as what's the name of 46 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:08.560 that country in nineteen eighty four when the when the 47 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:18.599 war changes sides anyway Oceana And so you know, we've 48 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:21.639 seen plenty of memes about Joe Scarborough and everybody else 49 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:27.199 saying that Biden had to go, that debate mattered. Did 50 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:32.879 this debate matter? Well, we were told, kamala ie, we 51 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:36.800 were told Trump did terribly because he took the bait 52 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.560 and kind of rambled, Except that, as we all know, 53 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:42.800 that's kind of what the way Trump is. He takes 54 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.680 the bait. He's easily offended by what people say about him, 55 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.639 and he rambles. And people have known that since Trump 56 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:53.360 first ran, starting in twenty fifteen, right, I mean, is 57 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:55.280 that anything? Was that news to anybody? 58 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:56.199 No? 59 00:03:56.599 --> 00:03:58.120 No, I can't. I mean I missed the whole thing. 60 00:03:58.520 --> 00:03:59.919 It was three am over here. 61 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.759 But look, I so all I heard about it is 62 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:06.520 not surprised me at all. All these articles you read 63 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:09.199 every day by smart people saying here's what Trump must 64 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:11.080 do to win are completely irrelevant. 65 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:12.719 He's either gonna do what he wants to do or 66 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.120 he's not. He's not going to take our advice. But 67 00:04:15.159 --> 00:04:16.040 that leads to point too. 68 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:19.439 I think John you said in a text chat debates 69 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.720 don't matter except when Joe Biden is one of the contestants. 70 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:26.600 But well, I mean there's a few moments that may 71 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.920 have been important, like Gerald Ford liberating Poland in nineteen 72 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:30.519 seventy six. 73 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:31.680 Things that creates some legs. 74 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:35.360 Reagan's age problem in Debate one in eighty four, which 75 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:39.319 then he squashed in the second debate, Nixon Kennedy. It's 76 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.199 kind of a legend. I think that people say, the 77 00:04:42.839 --> 00:04:45.160 people listen on radio thought Nixon one, but the people 78 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.879 who watchot Kennedy one. I think that's actually probably an 79 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.639 urban legend that no one will throw aside. But the 80 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:54.040 empirical social science literature says the debates really do not 81 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.959 affect the outcome, and I think you can see it here. 82 00:04:57.519 --> 00:05:00.480 And the problem is who judges these debates. The professional 83 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:04.360 pundit class, political scientists. They raided them the way they 84 00:05:04.360 --> 00:05:08.000 were created student papers, and that's not who what. Sixty 85 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:11.319 seven million people watched it, according to ratings, and a 86 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:12.199 lot of people watch it. 87 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:13.639 They don't score it like we do. 88 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:16.480 They they look at the people and you know what 89 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.199 you hear is and they had some focus groups and 90 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.519 they said, you know, Harris didn't really give any answers. 91 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:24.279 You know, Trump was terrible, but Harris didn't impress me. 92 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:26.920 And I know you want to talk about this. I 93 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:30.439 think the whole cats and Dogs in Ohio thing that's 94 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:33.000 got some strange legs, whether it's true or not. 95 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:35.160 And we can say more about that, but that's all 96 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:37.120 I have to say now to open things up. 97 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:39.879 Yeah, let's talk about that in just a moment, because 98 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:41.720 I want to hear what John thinks. He's the one 99 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:43.480 who wanted to talk about the debate. 100 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.399 Mostly because I wanted to hear what you guys thought. 101 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:52.560 I mean, I thought that Trump lost. I thought Kamala won, 102 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:55.519 but it's just a matter of tactics, like winning winning 103 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.399 one battle doesn't mean that she won the war. And 104 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.959 there are these interesting stories I thought that came out 105 00:06:02.439 --> 00:06:05.720 afterwards in liberal places like the New York Times or 106 00:06:05.800 --> 00:06:08.959 Reuters that said that when they did focus groups of 107 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.959 undecided voters in places like Pennsylvania after the debate, the 108 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.319 majority decided to vote for Trump, which I find you know, 109 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.160 amazing And the reason why is it goes to what 110 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:22.160 you both have been suggesting. Everyone knows Trump. He's a 111 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:24.959 you know, he's a known quantity. He acted in the 112 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.759 debate the way he always acts, and Paris. It's a 113 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:33.720 missed opportunity for her because she could have come out 114 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:35.800 and said, I believe in this, this is my plan, 115 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:38.959 this is what I think, instead of you know, I 116 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:40.959 think she almost like gave in too much to her 117 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:44.879 own media stories, which was bake Trump, make him look 118 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:46.839 crazy and then he'll lose votes and you won't have 119 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:49.240 to do anything. It was what is the media is 120 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:51.959 telling you to do? But I think for undecided voters 121 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.720 that's the exact rotten thing to do. So she missed 122 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:57.120 a chance to see to give her plan for the economy. 123 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.879 And so I've been spending time in Philadelphia these last 124 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.240 few days. By the way, she was interesting to see 125 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.399 campaign ads again, I find them very interesting. But my 126 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.519 local TV news station in Philadelphia had a one on 127 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:13.000 one exclusive interview with Kamala Harris yesterday, her first interview 128 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:15.879 by herself for the media, and they picked the local 129 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.720 media market. You know a guy, the interviewer, you know, 130 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:21.800 he's known in Philadelphia, but he's not known nationally. And 131 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:24.160 he asked her, what's your plan for the economy. You know, 132 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:26.879 people say it's tough now with the Flichy Stone, And 133 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.680 she repeated the same story about being raised by her mother, 134 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:34.800 who was a small businesswoman apparently, and never detailed her 135 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:37.680 plan to get inflation down and to get the economy 136 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:42.800 back on track. It's so I think they're engaged. They're 137 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:46.639 maybe solidifying their their farthest base, but they are not. 138 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:49.720 The Democrats are not reaching out to middle of the 139 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:51.199 road under side of voters at all. 140 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:52.120 Yeah. 141 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.399 I have one more thought about that's the whole thing, 142 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.079 which is here's something that Trump didn't do that I 143 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:00.480 think the Harris people were trying to base him into. 144 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:03.120 Remember the Harris team wanted live mic for the whole 145 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.480 debate and not the first whether you might cut off 146 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:07.399 like the CNN debate. 147 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:09.720 And I think what they were hoping was they could. 148 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:12.800 Bate Trump into being rude and nasty and saying something 149 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.319 really off putting about Harris, you know, call her a 150 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:16.120 you know, a b. 151 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.360 Ch or something. Right, he didn't do any of that. 152 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.120 He didn't interrupt her. Adny Olt Ladder. 153 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:22.399 Now, you know, he got caught up in the egle 154 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:23.959 things and all the rest of that, but he didn't 155 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.319 go too far. That would have been a debate moment 156 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:28.439 that would have harmed Trump. I think he could not 157 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:30.959 be in the same way that Joe Biden couldn't be 158 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:32.759 as nasty as we know he can be when he 159 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:34.919 debated Sarah Palin back in two thousand and eight. 160 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:39.440 Right, and just a couple more comments about that, and 161 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.679 then we can we can move on. But number one, 162 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.240 I want to say that Steve and I belonged to 163 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:50.399 a group of mostly squishier Republicans than we are. I 164 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.960 guess is the best. There's a few people that are, 165 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.879 but one of them very I don't want to embarrass 166 00:08:55.919 --> 00:09:01.279 him on this. Quite prominent journalist for Professer wrote an 167 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:05.440 article almost immediately the next morning saying Trump lost badly, 168 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:10.399 this was a triumpher kamala blah blah blah. And I 169 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:13.559 wrote very early in the day back and said, you know, 170 00:09:14.200 --> 00:09:17.240 I am going back to that whole Leslie Stall incident 171 00:09:17.320 --> 00:09:20.799 when Reagan was president. Steve, do you remember this when 172 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.080 they were trying to insinuate that Reagan when he was 173 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:30.919 up for reelection eighty four would would get rid of 174 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:34.039 Social Security, would eliminate Social Security or at least cut 175 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:39.519 benefits to seniors. And they did this whole big leslie 176 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:42.759 Stall did this whole big, you know, expose. But what 177 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:46.879 she did was she went to senior citizen centers for footage, 178 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.399 and she she went, you know, she did all this 179 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:52.159 footage that made it look like the Reagan administration was 180 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:57.159 just so pro old people. And even though the narrative 181 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:01.799 over the top was you know, anti reg and he 182 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:03.919 hates you know, he's going to make old people die 183 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:07.200 in the streets of hunger and so on. But the photos, 184 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:12.080 the visuals were all positive. And I don't remember if 185 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:13.840 it was d for somebody else looked at it and said, 186 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:15.600 oh my god, what a great video. And it turned 187 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.360 out when they showed the video to people without the 188 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.720 sound on, it was one hundred percent pro. 189 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:22.279 So back to the debate. 190 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.159 Do you remember that, Steve, It was kind of a 191 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:26.519 legend a while. 192 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:28.080 But I don't know any of that. 193 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:30.279 But I remember something similar to bears on the point 194 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:32.279 which we have time, I'll tell you, but go ahead. 195 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:35.039 All I was going to say is a couple of days. 196 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:38.600 My argument was, if you're actually not paying a whole 197 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:41.080 lot of attention, which you know, even I do this 198 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.519 sometimes because it's so awful watching those things. You know, 199 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.440 I'm doing other stuff. I'm looking at the TV now 200 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:51.679 and then, and Kamala Harris is just making the nastiest faces. 201 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:55.840 She just looks like she's, you know, applying for the 202 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:59.399 role of Crouella Deville, you know, auditioning for the role 203 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:02.840 of Kuelaville in one hundred and one Dalmatians, and she, 204 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:06.519 you know, they're exaggerated that it's just awful. And so 205 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:09.799 a couple of days after I wrote that, Miranda Devine 206 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.000 and The New York Post said the many ugly faces 207 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:16.480 of Kamala Harris, and I think that that probably played 208 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:20.480 a role. I'm overstating it a bit, however, if you 209 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:26.799 think about Kamala's smug, nasty, refusing to answer any questions, 210 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.480 you know, being called out, and then you add to 211 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:33.200 that the it's it's been beat to death as well, 212 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.320 the bias of ABC, the bias of the moderators, the 213 00:11:37.440 --> 00:11:40.240 bias of the questions that were asked, the bias of 214 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:44.840 them interrupting, the bias of them fact checking Trump usually wrongly, 215 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.960 but never fact checking her people Trump has done as 216 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:53.360 well as he has because he has been persecuted on 217 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.720 so many sides by the DOJ, by the media, et cetera. 218 00:11:57.200 --> 00:12:01.200 I think that the reason that am Alam ding Dong 219 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:06.639 got no bounce is because it wasn't from the point 220 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:09.960 of view of the political triumph. It wasn't a political triumph. 221 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:13.120 You can't say she won the debate because it wasn't 222 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.960 a debate. I mean, geez, wait, if this is what 223 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:18.960 we actually call a debate, how about we just let 224 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:21.480 them get up there like Lincoln and Douglas did. Give them, 225 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:25.440 give them two and a half hours, no moderator, you 226 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:27.360 get this much, you get this much, you get this much, 227 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:30.039 rejoined her. Next time, we do it the opposite for 228 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:32.480 seven times. How many of them you think he could 229 00:12:32.519 --> 00:12:34.840 do Trump could do it. Trump could do it. He 230 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:35.679 could talk for an hour. 231 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:38.039 I mean, now here's Chryla Guild. 232 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.559 That point is, remember that there are a lot of Americans, 233 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:43.000 a lot of voters who really have paid no attention 234 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:43.440 to Harris. 235 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:45.200 They're still getting to know who she is. And if 236 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:47.200 they watched it, I think they didn't like what they saw. 237 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:48.440 They're used to. 238 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:50.960 As you said this, we know Trump's grumpy face and 239 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:53.759 people are used to it, by the way. I think 240 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:55.639 it's one of the things that makes him look commanding 241 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:59.679 to people her They're like, uh, I don't know, but again, 242 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:00.399 but that's. 243 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:01.960 Importance of image of these things. 244 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:05.240 And you know, you opened the door to this, lou 245 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:09.440 Creesia by mentioning eighty four quick quick story, Yeah, you 246 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:11.639 were in trouble here. Not an analogy, but a point. 247 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:14.679 You remember the movie The Day After from the Fall 248 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.559 of eighty three about it was the World War three. 249 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:19.399 That was an out and out anti Reagan propaganda movie. 250 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:21.000 And you know, I went through all the details of 251 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.240 this and research. They were very worried about it, and 252 00:13:24.720 --> 00:13:26.879 it got by the way Super Bowl ratings in terms 253 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.039 of viewerships, like a hundred million people watched it in 254 00:13:29.159 --> 00:13:32.039 nineteen eighty three, and you know, Reagan got to pre 255 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:34.080 screen it and his team and they thought, all this 256 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:35.399 is this thing is really bad. 257 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:38.720 It's really devastating. It's got very a huge emotional impact. 258 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:42.799 But because it was so controversial, ABC practically gave away ads, 259 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:45.720 and when it was broadcast there were ads and you 260 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:47.240 know in me Queen the Gloom and Doom and the 261 00:13:47.320 --> 00:13:50.879 end of the world that's Pepperidge Farms remembers and it 262 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.679 was always sort of happy American, you know, buy bread 263 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:57.039 and you know, by a Chevrolet truck. And they said, 264 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:00.320 when we watched it broadcast, we thought, well, and that's 265 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:02.559 going to remind people what the real world really still is. 266 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:04.399 And it totally blunted the impact of it. 267 00:14:04.519 --> 00:14:06.519 So, I mean, this is actually setting up I think 268 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:09.320 about cats and dogs in Ohio. But still I think 269 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:11.879 this is why it's important how these things look more 270 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:12.639 than what is said. 271 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:18.279 I think that that's true again because the voters were 272 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.200 talking about it are not people like us. They're not 273 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:26.039 people who live and breathe politics, and so of the 274 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:30.919 all of the input makes a difference. You and I 275 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:34.600 John probably don't watch a debate and pay too much 276 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:38.360 attention to visuals like the fact that Trump looks serious, 277 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.679 he might look grumpy. I heard more than one person 278 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:45.120 comment that talking to someone who watched the debate hadn't 279 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:48.440 made up their mind that when Trump looked angry, it 280 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.440 didn't upset them because they were angry too. They're angry 281 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.159 about the price of their groceries. They're angry about the 282 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:57.279 fact that, you know, gas costs more and living costs more, 283 00:14:57.360 --> 00:15:00.799 their wages haven't gone up accordingly, there are angry about, 284 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:03.559 you know, migrants moving. We'll move on to that in 285 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:06.840 just a second. Uh So, when when Trump looks angry 286 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:10.240 while while Hamam and Ding Dong sitting there looking smug 287 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:14.120 and and this whole empathy, I'm the only one who 288 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.759 really cares about you that If any politician, even a Republican, 289 00:15:17.840 --> 00:15:20.320 says that to me, I'm not voting for him because 290 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.120 I'm not interested in them caring about me. I'm interested 291 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:27.960 in them fixing the country. So we're gonna move on 292 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:30.639 to We may as well move on to talk about 293 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:35.559 Haiti Haitian immigrants, because Nixie's asked. 294 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:36.080 How well I have. 295 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:40.480 Unfortunately, a terrible joke came to my mind during the 296 00:15:40.559 --> 00:15:46.360 debate about that, Can I tell it? Yes? So, being Korean, 297 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.759 when I heard they were talking about some immigrant group 298 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:51.360 eating dogs, I was so glad when I heard it 299 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:55.840 was Haitians and not Koreans, being from people who has 300 00:15:55.879 --> 00:15:58.919 been accused of eating dogs and having been a Korea 301 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:02.759 we once didn't I starting to sound like job dogs, 302 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:05.879 love them, don't eat them anymore. That's somebody else. 303 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:13.360 Okay, Well, welcome back, everybody. I want to start off 304 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:15.919 actually with not a not a happy story about the 305 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:21.080 guy whose son was in fact killed by a Haitian immigrant, 306 00:16:21.639 --> 00:16:24.840 an eleven year old boy, and the dad this is 307 00:16:24.919 --> 00:16:31.000 how the left can be so ooh, I don't even 308 00:16:31.080 --> 00:16:34.399 have a right word for it. I mean, this mindset 309 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.440 is not something I can wrap my own brain around. 310 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:43.159 The father gets on, gets in public and says, I 311 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:45.600 wish that my son had been killed by a sixty 312 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:53.240 year old white man. And yeah, because he says that 313 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:58.080 Trump and others are now using his son, making political 314 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:03.919 hay out of his death to bash poor, poor immigrants, 315 00:17:04.079 --> 00:17:07.160 poor Haitian and other immigrants, and that's why we should 316 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.440 been killed by a sixty year old white man. If 317 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:14.119 you think that through the corruption of the mind of 318 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:17.920 the left is so far gone that I don't know 319 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:22.880 how we come back from that. Never mind that logically 320 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.400 that makes no sense in the sense that, you know, 321 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:28.319 why wasn't his son killed by a six year old 322 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:31.720 white man, because generally speaking, as a matter of a 323 00:17:32.359 --> 00:17:35.079 relative to the population, they don't do that sort of thing. 324 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:37.720 They're not barbarians. 325 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:41.319 Well, look, first of all, this guy's probably well he's 326 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.640 probably a partisan democrat and he maybe even you know, 327 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.680 maybe he knows somebody who's part of the democratic establishment. 328 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.480 So all right, and he can make news doing it. 329 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:51.279 But to say it, I couldn't say something like that 330 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:52.720 if you held a gun to my head. 331 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:55.240 Well, I know, but some people, my kids. 332 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.000 Well but here's what the media didn't do is remember 333 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:00.559 the accident wasn't just this one kid car. It was 334 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:02.960 a school bus the person hit, and there are a 335 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.480 lot of kids injured. But what about their parents? 336 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:07.799 What do they think? Do they agree with Trump about 337 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:10.200 this or not? But they won't ask that question. 338 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.240 In other words, this guy's not the only person who 339 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.680 had someone injured by any legal immigrant crashing into the bus. 340 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:19.039 And of course what interesting me about this whole thing is, 341 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:22.680 at first, I you know, a whole cats and box thing. 342 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:24.599 We can I have one thing to say about it. 343 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.039 But the shocking thing to me was, wait a minute, 344 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:29.839 twenty thousand Haitian immigrants were sent to a town of 345 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:31.400 sixty five thousand. 346 00:18:31.119 --> 00:18:31.839 People in Ohio. 347 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:34.960 I mean, it's a staggering number. From anywhere. It could 348 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.480 be twenty thousand Germans, it could be twenty thousand Frenchmen. 349 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.240 I don't care that's a huge number, an influx of 350 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:43.160 people who are you know, income, don't know the language, 351 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:45.680 et cetera. And you think this is not going to 352 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.960 cause difficulties. And that's the astounding thing. And I think 353 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:50.799 this is what so many people are reacting to. 354 00:18:53.079 --> 00:18:53.319 John. 355 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:57.759 What I don't understand is how the federal government decided 356 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:00.680 to move everybody there. So yeah, seems to me that 357 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:02.559 in order to do that, you'd have to have the 358 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:05.920 cooperation of the city. Right, that's because where would do 359 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:08.880 people stay, where would they go to work? I mean, 360 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:16.720 I assume that it's Youngstown, Ohio, right, Springfield, Ohio. It's 361 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:19.720 not like they got up and just were you know, 362 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:23.799 unwillingly deluged by immigrants. I bet there's some kind of 363 00:19:23.839 --> 00:19:29.359 sanctuary city like San Francisco, and probably agrees. So that 364 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:32.119 just goes to my point that Steve saying that, you know, 365 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:37.440 this is probably the reaction of I mean, a father's 366 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.279 totally breathed. Of course, he's sympathized with him, and maybe 367 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:43.359 he wouldn't say or think this, you know, when you know, 368 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:46.640 you know, years from now, but in the midst of it, 369 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:50.799 maybe he's you know, part of as Steve said, the 370 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:55.519 Democratic community to which this is happening, and he wants 371 00:19:55.599 --> 00:19:58.319 to blame someone in a partisan way. He's trying to 372 00:19:58.359 --> 00:19:59.920 blame Trump for it, even though you can't. 373 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:06.119 So I think that's that's the bigger, a more stark 374 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:09.240 picture of the real problem, kind of what you guys 375 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:11.240 have both been saying, And that is the whole thing 376 00:20:11.319 --> 00:20:15.079 with eating cats and dogs. We know that Haitians do that. 377 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:18.000 We know that in Haiti that might be the difference 378 00:20:18.039 --> 00:20:23.279 between starvation and not start not starving to death. 379 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:24.200 You know, it might be. 380 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:28.559 Haiti's just a you can't even call it a third 381 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:32.680 world word that Trump often uses. It's much much worse 382 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:37.319 than that. And anybody from Haiti who was able to 383 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:41.519 contribute anything to that god awful place has pretty much left. 384 00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:44.039 The people they're bringing in now are just you know, 385 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:46.880 they're and they're bringing them in. As you pointed out, John, 386 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:50.440 my understanding, it's hard to tell nowadays, is that that's 387 00:20:50.519 --> 00:20:54.920 actually a fairly republican, small Midwestern town, and this was 388 00:20:55.160 --> 00:21:00.680 just one of those incredibly cynical move by the Biden 389 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:07.200 administration to force Haitians on this town. You know, remember 390 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:11.119 the city manager supposedly denies that any of that stuff 391 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:13.279 is happening. So my guess is that the city manager 392 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:15.559 at least was complicit in it in the way you argued. 393 00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:19.680 But back to the whole idea that I've never seen 394 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:21.799 the left push back as hard as they have on 395 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.400 this whole Haitian thing. And it's not just the left, 396 00:21:24.440 --> 00:21:27.880 it's people all the way to the squishy middle of 397 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.200 the right saying, oh, this is just not true. This 398 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:34.480 is just not true. In some ways, A, it doesn't 399 00:21:34.519 --> 00:21:36.440 matter if it's true or not, because we know that 400 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.319 if they're not actually eating cats and dogs, they're capable 401 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:43.119