Speaker 1: Dirty hands means Quean theology. Ken you gig. What's going on?
Speaker 1: All my local guys and gals and long distance pals.
Speaker 2: We're back, We're back.
Speaker 1: We've got another good episode line up for you guys.
Speaker 1: And this is a man that I found through YouTube
Speaker 1: and seen on a short back in the eighties. He
Speaker 1: had a very epic debate with the three College Professor atheists,
Speaker 1: and he's best known for me as the Times Face
Speaker 1: and Matter guy. I just love that. That just actually
Speaker 1: inspired me to start digging and looking into the Bible.
Speaker 1: So I'm really pleased to talk with Kent Hovine today
Speaker 1: to Steve go ahead and line us up here.
Speaker 3: Well, he's a Young Earth creationist, established the creation science,
Speaker 3: established creation science evangelism in eighteen I'm sorry in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty nine, and dinosaur a ventureland in Pensacola, Florida in
Speaker 3: two thousand and one. My favorite thing that I've noticed
Speaker 3: with doctor Hovan is all the willingness and the the
Speaker 3: energy that he brings to debates. And I just absolutely
Speaker 3: love seeing a strong Christian man that is not wanting
Speaker 3: to back down from anybody, and that is an inspiration
Speaker 3: to all of us. So we really appreciate. It's great
Speaker 3: to have you here with us.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for having me. Love doing this.
Speaker 3: Well, justin why don't you go ahead start us off
Speaker 3: and we'll kind of jump from there. And this is
Speaker 3: a free flowing program. We just kind of go with
Speaker 3: the flow and if something hits you, strikes you, let
Speaker 3: the Holy Spirit guide it and we'll kind of go
Speaker 3: from there.
Speaker 1: Aymen, Well, I guess one thing I definitely want to
Speaker 1: talk about with you on here is creation and the
Speaker 1: Big Bang. So with a Christian worldview, what is your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Big Bang? And someone that is a
Speaker 1: believer in the Big Bang with an open mind willing
Speaker 1: to talk, how would you approach them?
Speaker 4: It really goes back to the basic question how old
Speaker 4: is this earth? If you go to Genesis chapter five,
Speaker 4: it tells us clearly that Adam was one hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty when his son was born, and then his son
Speaker 4: was one hundred and five when his son was born.
Speaker 4: So I made this chart showing all the dates right
Speaker 4: from Genesis chapter five, from before the flood and then
Speaker 4: after the flood you pick up at Genesis eleven. It
Speaker 4: gives the ages, I mean, it gives all the numbers
Speaker 4: it's easy. The Bible dates add up to the earth
Speaker 4: being six thousand years old and being created in six days.
Speaker 4: So if someone says I'm a Christian but I believe
Speaker 4: in the big Bank, I say, well. God wrote on
Speaker 4: a rock with his finger the ten commandments for Moses
Speaker 4: in Exodus chapter twenty. In those ten commandments, God said
Speaker 4: to the Jews, I want you to honor the Sabbath,
Speaker 4: because in six days the Lord made heaven, the earth,
Speaker 4: the sea, and all that in them is well, then
Speaker 4: there's no big bank. If he made everything in six days,
Speaker 4: then he made everything in six days. It has to
Speaker 4: be He made the plants on day three, and the
Speaker 4: sun on day four, and the birds and bugs in
Speaker 4: pollinate the plants on day five, so the days have
Speaker 4: to be normal days later. In Matthew nineteen four and
Speaker 4: Mark ten six, Jesus said the creation of Adam was
Speaker 4: the beginning. Well, it was Jesus live. Was he stupid?
Speaker 4: Those who believe that the earth is billions of years old,
Speaker 4: and many Christians do, and I think they love the
Speaker 4: Lord as much as I do. I just think they've
Speaker 4: been brainwashed by the stupid evolution religion. The earth is
Speaker 4: about six thousand years old. God made it in six days.
Speaker 4: That's the only way it works. There are so many
Speaker 4: symbiotic relationships where certain animals require a certain plant, or
Speaker 4: certain plants require a certain insect to pollinate them. There
Speaker 4: are millions of what are called symbios, the symbiotic relationship.
Speaker 4: They could not have evolved separately. So I believe the
Speaker 4: Bible is literally true, scientifically accurate. God made everything in
Speaker 4: six days. The Bible also clearly teaches nothing died until
Speaker 4: Adam sinned. Man brought death into the world Romans five.
Speaker 4: So if man brought death into the world, those are deseasion.
Speaker 4: The earth is millions of years old. Do they have
Speaker 4: death before sin That's a serious theological problem, if nothing else,
Speaker 4: certainly a historical problem. There's no reason to say the
Speaker 4: earth is more than six thousand years old unless you're
Speaker 4: trying to accommodate somebody who believes in evolution. No reason,
Speaker 4: no sense accommodating them. That very stupid didn't happen at all.
Speaker 4: Nobody's ever seen a cow produce a non cow, or
Speaker 4: a dog produce a non dog. There is zero evidence
Speaker 4: for evolution. We've been offering it for a long time
Speaker 4: we're building a Christian camp in Lenox, Alabama. Good luck
Speaker 4: finding that on a map. Great North Sicola, seventy miles
Speaker 4: and it's free. Come on down to see our camp. It's
Speaker 4: one hundred and forty acres. It's amazing. Visitors small over
Speaker 4: the world. So no, I disagree strongly with the Big Bang.
Speaker 4: Big bang is a big dud according to them. Let's
Speaker 4: see I got it right here. The big Bang. Let's
Speaker 4: say he started with all the matter in the universe
Speaker 4: being squeezed into a dot smaller than a period on
Speaker 4: a pay Here it is time, space, matter all began
Speaker 4: with a big bang. In a fraction of a second.
Speaker 4: The universe grew from smaller than a single atom. That's
Speaker 4: pretty tiny.
Speaker 5: My question would be, if say space is a vacuum,
Speaker 5: how do you compress something in a vacuum?
Speaker 4: Right, I tell atheists, I'll give you one hundred dollars
Speaker 4: if you can compress a cup of water into a
Speaker 4: dot the size of a period on a page. Water
Speaker 4: can't be compressed. You want to put squeeze the whole
Speaker 4: planet in there. It's just plain stupid, tell him, I said, So, let's.
Speaker 1: See which one thing too that you know? They always
Speaker 1: talk about the science. And one thing that I've just
Speaker 1: found fascinating a few years ago. Are you familiar with
Speaker 1: the work of Mark Armitage. He found the Nino soft
Speaker 1: tissue from Cali University.
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think I've ever met Mark, but I've
Speaker 4: read some of his stuff, and that finding soft dinosaur
Speaker 4: tissue fits right in with the Bible teaches the flood
Speaker 4: was about forty four hundred years ago. No, animals don't
Speaker 4: fossilize un us. They're very quickly and so the only
Speaker 4: reason we have fossils at all. And Tennessee, where you
Speaker 4: guys are, is loaded with fossils. There's a place up there,
Speaker 4: maybe you can find it in central Tennessee. It's a
Speaker 4: seam about ten feet thick of petrified clams like this
Speaker 4: in the closed position, petrified closed clams. There are millions
Speaker 4: of them in that one seam up there in central Tennessee.
Speaker 4: When a clam dies, it opens. How do you get
Speaker 4: a petrified clam in the closed position? You have to
Speaker 4: bury it alive. How do you get them in Tennessee?
Speaker 4: You got to have a worldwide flood. The Bible says
Speaker 4: that the end of time Tewod Peter chapter three, the
Speaker 4: Scoffers would be ignorant of the creation and the flood.
Speaker 4: They don't understand what the creation was like. They don't
Speaker 4: believe in a flood, and it says they're ignorant of
Speaker 4: the coming judgment of God. But it's coming, whether they
Speaker 4: like it or not.
Speaker 3: True story, true story.
Speaker 4: Justin go ahead, which I followed.
Speaker 1: You work for a while, and I just I love
Speaker 1: your sense of humor, you know, and that's an acquired
Speaker 1: pace for some people. Some people just don't have a
Speaker 1: good sense of humor. But I love how you give
Speaker 1: us the facts and you cut up and have a
Speaker 1: good time and you show I just love your teaching style,
Speaker 1: which has been quite abrasive. You're no stranger to controversy
Speaker 1: on the internet.
Speaker 4: I trought high school of fifteen years and it destroyed
Speaker 4: my brain completely. So I love humor. You're right far
Speaker 4: as controversy, there's no controversy. I'm right, they're wrong. End
Speaker 4: of story.
Speaker 2: I love it. That's a lot that.
Speaker 3: AH going for. Well, actually, you go ahead. You got
Speaker 3: a couple more. You got some more slides. Let's keep rolling.
Speaker 4: Oh, I have eighty thousand slides. You don't want to
Speaker 4: go through all my floes.
Speaker 3: Just so you know, I got all night, So let's
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have the blood work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jesus said the creation of Adam was the beginning,
Speaker 4: and nothing died until Adam sinned, and the dates had
Speaker 4: up to about six thousand. I've been going through on
Speaker 4: my YouTube channel, which is Genesis Baptist Church on YouTube,
Speaker 4: probably forty different ways to prove the earth cannot be
Speaker 4: billions of years old. It just cannot be. If I
Speaker 4: told you this Bick ink pen was nine thousand years old,
Speaker 4: well it'd be easy to test my claim. You could
Speaker 4: find out, Hey, the ballpoint pen wasn't invented until eighteen
Speaker 4: eighty eight. Oh, well, then this pen has to be
Speaker 4: made after eighteen eighty eight. Oh, plastics weren't invented until
Speaker 4: around World War Two. It's made out of plastic. You
Speaker 4: just limited. You just disproved my five thousand year claim
Speaker 4: with two scientific facts. Then you could say, hold it
Speaker 4: says on here it's made by Bick Corporation. Bick in
Speaker 4: France didn't become a company till after World War Two
Speaker 4: nineteen forty six, so I could prove sientifically this pin
Speaker 4: is built later than nineteen forty six. I have no
Speaker 4: idea when it was made, and I don't care. But
Speaker 4: it's not millions of years old, and it's not five
Speaker 4: thousand years old. And if you look at the Earth
Speaker 4: and they say, look at these rocks, this rock is
Speaker 4: ten million years old. Wait, wait, wait, there's all kinds
Speaker 4: of ways to prove it cannot be. The Moon is
Speaker 4: going around the Earth. I think everybody agrees with that.
Speaker 4: But the moon's getting further away. We're losing the moon
Speaker 4: an inch and a half a year. Okay, that means
Speaker 4: it used to be closer. Yeah, well how much closer
Speaker 4: can you bring it before that starts to become a
Speaker 4: problem because if the Moon is closer, the gravity is stronger.
Speaker 4: It's called the inverse square law. If you half the distance,
Speaker 4: you take that fraction one half, lip it over and
Speaker 4: square it, it's four times the gravitational pull. If you
Speaker 4: brought the moon into one third the distance, it's nine
Speaker 4: times the gravitational pull. They've done all the math on this, say, guys,
Speaker 4: the Earth Moon system cannot be more than one billion
Speaker 4: years old. You go back a billion years and the
Speaker 4: organ collapses. Well, then why are we telling the kids
Speaker 4: it's four point six It's not possible. The saink Pin
Speaker 4: is not five thousand years old, and the Earth is
Speaker 4: not four point six million years old. The Sun is
Speaker 4: up there burning. Go take a look at it. It's
Speaker 4: burning five million tons of fuel every second. Well, that
Speaker 4: means it used to be heavier. If you go back
Speaker 4: in time, if you go back a second, it was
Speaker 4: five million tons heavier. How far back can you go
Speaker 4: before that becomes a problem because if the Sun is heavier,
Speaker 4: it starts having more gravity, starts attracting everything in. You
Speaker 4: cannot have the solar system more than a few thousand
Speaker 4: years old. And I go through on my seminar part one.
Speaker 4: You can get them all on doctordno dot com. Creation
Speaker 4: Seminar Part one is a whole bunch of different ways
Speaker 4: to prove the Earth is not millions of years old.
Speaker 4: The Age of the Earth. Seminar Part two is about
Speaker 4: the Garden of Eden. Why did they live to be
Speaker 4: nine hundred? Why don't we live to be nine hundred?
Speaker 4: We'll be talking about that tonight on my channel. Genesis
Speaker 4: Baptist Church. Part three is all about dinosaurs, reptiles, never
Speaker 4: stop growing, never well, the Bible says before the flood came,
Speaker 4: the people lived to be nine hundred. What would happen
Speaker 4: if a lizard could live to be nine hundred and
Speaker 4: never start there to be that's the age of dinosaurs.
Speaker 4: Nothing died before Adam Sin Satan is a liar. He's
Speaker 4: using God's own creatures to turn people away from God,
Speaker 4: and we are sick of it. At Dinosaur ventry Land,
Speaker 4: we're going to undo the damage or die trying. So
Speaker 4: come on down. We have twenty five cabins you can
Speaker 4: stay and everything's free. So it's a gravel pit somebody
Speaker 4: bought and gave to us seven years ago. Nothing here
Speaker 4: but mud, but it's amazing. The only thing we warned
Speaker 4: people about is we have well water, which is the
Speaker 4: best water in the world. But I taught biology for
Speaker 4: fifteen years and we like to warn people if you
Speaker 4: drink well water, your babies will be born naked.
Speaker 2: That's weird.
Speaker 3: I'm not used to that.
Speaker 5: I mean, the thing is we have well water, and
Speaker 5: both of my boys were poor naked, so I mean.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's true, all right, I do have a go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes he is much worse.
Speaker 4: There was an Indian one time drank four gallons of
Speaker 4: iced tea that night he drowned.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I'm gonna have to remember that one.
Speaker 3: Now. One of my favorite things about my dad was
Speaker 3: a big fan of you. Actually, he was a big
Speaker 3: fan of a lot of uh Young Earth creationists. He
Speaker 3: was a big Young Earth creationists as well. But really
Speaker 3: one of the things that like you brought up was
Speaker 3: a lot it hassened with the dinosaurs. So what I
Speaker 3: think is really important, and you kind of brought that up.
Speaker 3: Everything was you know, created. Everything kind of goes along
Speaker 3: that line. But the one thing I always have a
Speaker 3: question of, and it's truly a question, is like things
Speaker 3: like like a tyrannosaurus or even things like I mean,
Speaker 3: you can go and say something that's not that like
Speaker 3: a mosquito. Some of these things, in my opinion, the
Speaker 3: way I've always thought of it, they're the result of sin.
Speaker 3: You know, if you think if something is carnivorous and
Speaker 3: was attacking people, or if you know, obviously you know,
Speaker 3: if Adam and Eve were naked in the garden, mosquitos
Speaker 3: would not have been fun if they had been part
Speaker 3: of that. I think something I just kind of always
Speaker 3: assumed that was something kind of one of the repercussions
Speaker 3: of our sin.
Speaker 4: Well, that's one option. There's another way to look at it.
Speaker 4: God made everything perfect. Mosquitoes are heat sensing insects. They
Speaker 4: can sense in the dark your body heat and zone
Speaker 4: in on you. Okay, if you are injured at any
Speaker 4: place in your body, if you sprain your wrist or
Speaker 4: sprain your ankle, that part of your body is warmer.
Speaker 4: You can pick it up on a thermograph. The hospitals
Speaker 4: have those. They take a picture and say, oh, you've
Speaker 4: you've sprained your ankle or your frain your knee. Well,
Speaker 4: there's a we have a there's a center here. I
Speaker 4: got one, I think on my waist I normally carry
Speaker 4: around here. It is right. We have these little zappers
Speaker 4: electric spark. If you get bit by a mosquito or
Speaker 4: a bumblebee or an ant, you simply spark it and
Speaker 4: it neutralizes the poison. It's going instantly. If you can
Speaker 4: bit by a rattlesnake, we take something bigger, like a spark, plug,
Speaker 4: wire off a chainsaw, a lawnmore, but a high voltage,
Speaker 4: low average spark will neutralize the poison. It just works.
Speaker 4: Missionaries in the jungle carry a little stun gun, they
Speaker 4: get bit by something's happen, don't Just theoretically, what if
Speaker 4: God made the rattlesnakes with a poison that's not poisonous,
Speaker 4: but they can sense where you're because, by the way,
Speaker 4: when you spark spark it, it straightens out the molecule,
Speaker 4: whether it's hemo toxic or neurotoxic, and makes it your
Speaker 4: body can digest it. It's a protein. So what if
Speaker 4: the heat sensing organs on the rattlesnake and the mosquito
Speaker 4: were to sense when somebody's injured themselves and say, oh, here,
Speaker 4: I help you, and they were putting in a protein
Speaker 4: to help take away the problem. What if they had
Speaker 4: a good use before the fall. I don't know, something
Speaker 4: to can consider. It sure beats the idea that all
Speaker 4: the mosquitoes in the world came from a dot of nothing.
Speaker 3: No, I one hundred percent agree. I just I just
Speaker 3: always kind of like I said, that's just the idea
Speaker 3: that our sin brought certain things or changed them into
Speaker 3: something that was a nuisance or a problem. And that
Speaker 3: actually brings one other question. I've asked this to a
Speaker 3: couple other people, and everybody has different opinions. If we
Speaker 3: go into Job, and a lot of people talk about Job.
Speaker 3: Some people want to make it metaphorical when we talk
Speaker 3: about Behemoth or Leviathan. I've always took in that, especially
Speaker 3: if you look through the chapter before and it's talking
Speaker 3: about ostriches and other animals like this, and then it
Speaker 3: goes into you know, look at Behemoth, who I created
Speaker 3: with along with you, and you know, it goes through
Speaker 3: and it pretty much describes like a brachiosaur. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's pretty much it sounds like a syrupod. And then
Speaker 3: the interesting part though, is when it goes to Leviathan.
Speaker 3: It never says that he created Leviathan. It says he
Speaker 3: created Behemoth. But Leviathan, it says, and then look at Leviathan,
Speaker 3: you know, and all the terrible things about Leviathan. And
Speaker 3: I always kind of thought of that as that same thing,
Speaker 3: like Leviathan maybe was the result of sin. It wasn't
Speaker 3: something God created because it wasn't good. It was the
Speaker 3: result of some sort of sin, something that came out of,
Speaker 3: you know, the fall of man. And I think that
Speaker 3: that when they talk about Leviathan in Revelation, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like saying, you know, comparing God to a lion.
Speaker 3: You see that. You know there's others actual lions, but
Speaker 3: you know the lion of Judah is just referring to
Speaker 3: another person. If does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I think though that God said behold now Behemoth,
Speaker 4: he would not tell him to behold behemoth if he
Speaker 4: could not behold behemoth. This animal, whatever it is, was
Speaker 4: with him at all. The it says, which I made
Speaker 4: with thee God made everything in six days. All through
Speaker 4: the Bible that talks about dragons. See the word dinosaur
Speaker 4: wasn't made up till eighteen forty one, So the King
Speaker 4: James Bible sixteen eleven. They would not use a that
Speaker 4: wasn't invented. They don't have the word computer in the
Speaker 4: Bible either. Okay, So the word dragons is mentioned in
Speaker 4: the Bible a whole bunch of times and flashing them
Speaker 4: up on screen here the dragons, the dragons, the dragons,
Speaker 4: and says Job was a perfect man. He feared God
Speaker 4: and hated evil. He had seven sons and three daughters,
Speaker 4: and a bunch of sheep and cows and everything else,
Speaker 4: and it all got stolen from him. Job probably lived
Speaker 4: shortly after the flood, because Job has had ten children
Speaker 4: that were grown up and all died, and then he
Speaker 4: lived long enough to have ten more children and saw
Speaker 4: his great great grandsons from his second family. So the
Speaker 4: guy's got to be living a couple hundred years, probably
Speaker 4: when they back when they lived to be four hundred.
Speaker 4: If you look at the chart after the flood, there's
Speaker 4: a couple generations of people living to be four hundred.
Speaker 4: To get on the screen here, so I think Job
Speaker 4: lived during that time, and Job was out plowing and
Speaker 4: Savians came and stole all the stuff. Okay, you can
Speaker 4: read Job for yourself. But then God said to Job
Speaker 4: in chapter forty, le me call up there real quick.
Speaker 4: God said, behold, now be heemoth, which I made with thee.
Speaker 4: Let's see I get this is part of my seminar
Speaker 4: part three. Okay, Joe, God's talking. I believe Behemoth is,
Speaker 4: like you said, a brachiasaurus. That's my theory, now, Leviathan,
Speaker 4: I believe it's probably the t rex. And let's see
Speaker 4: the darkness the light. Get up here.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm making you jump around. I apologize.
Speaker 4: Well, no, this is all part. There's the brachia sore
Speaker 4: has the long front legs, and the cetasaur has the
Speaker 4: long back legs uh and patosaur. So I believe it's
Speaker 4: there's my blonde desaurce. Yeah, you have to talk to
Speaker 4: work on a slow Okay, it says, behold behemoth, which
Speaker 4: one lady said, you tell a lot of blonde jokes,
Speaker 4: and I'm blonde. I said, okay, I'll talk slower, which
Speaker 4: I made. I'm blonde too, okay, which I made with
Speaker 4: the eats grasses an ox. So whatever this animal is,
Speaker 4: he could eat grass. Secondly, his strength is in his loins,
Speaker 4: his navels, in the forces in the navel of his belly.
Speaker 4: The biggest strongest part on him is his belly. People
Speaker 4: say elephants have a big belly. True, hippos have a
Speaker 4: big belly. Bracy Sauce had a big belly. He's got
Speaker 4: a big belly. Go to see. Anyway, his tail is
Speaker 4: like a cedar tree. Well, have you ever seen an
Speaker 4: elephant's tail?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Would that remind you of a cedar tree?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, okay, not like a cedar tree. Neither is
Speaker 4: a hippo tail. Okay. There has to be a Brachya
Speaker 4: saurce or something like that. So it says his bones
Speaker 4: are like bars of iron. We got a big bracy
Speaker 4: sor towbone in our science center. So I believe by
Speaker 4: the time of today, most of the dinosaurs have been exterminated,
Speaker 4: either by man's hunting they called them dragons and killed
Speaker 4: them off, or they simply could not live long enough
Speaker 4: in the new climate. Before the flood, the people lived
Speaker 4: to be nine hundred. Now after the flood it dropped
Speaker 4: off to four hundred, and then two hundred and then
Speaker 4: one hundred. We cover on my videotape number two what happened?
Speaker 4: What was the garden of Eden like? What was different?
Speaker 4: Why did they live to be nine hundred? The answers
Speaker 4: right in the Bible, and today nobody, very few make
Speaker 4: get to one hundred. So before the flood, I think
Speaker 4: it was common you were just you waited till your
Speaker 4: hundred to start looking for a wife and house near
Speaker 4: a grade school. Yeah, yeah, you can wait. Oh, I agree,
Speaker 4: I'll do that today. Forget the great school. You won't
Speaker 4: need it.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, I agree, one hundred percent. And that's one
Speaker 3: thing that always bothered me is if you go into
Speaker 3: most Bibles and you look at the section of job
Speaker 3: where it talks about behemoth, and it says, you know,
Speaker 3: tail like a cedar tree, like you said. And if
Speaker 3: you go down to the little subtext on the bottomy,
Speaker 3: you know it'll have it marked and say go check
Speaker 3: the margin here and it will say possibly an elephant
Speaker 3: or a hippo. And it just I've always looked at
Speaker 3: it just like shook my head because it makes absolutely
Speaker 3: no sense. So I just I agree with you one
Speaker 3: hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Well, amen, the problem see the two Peter Chapter three,
Speaker 4: The Bible said, the scoffers are going to be ignorant
Speaker 4: of how God made the creation, what was it like?
Speaker 4: And they're ignorant of the flood, and they're ignorant of
Speaker 4: the coming judgment of God. That judgments coming soon were
Speaker 4: headed for royal trouble on planet. Or see the original Creation.
Speaker 4: If you read the account carefully, it says, I see
Speaker 4: this part one TV. I got so many slides it'll
Speaker 4: take me a while. But if you watch my video
Speaker 4: number two, the Bible says there was water above the firmament. Well,
Speaker 4: that's not there today. The original creation had water above
Speaker 4: the air. It says in verse number chapter one that
Speaker 4: the birds fly in the firmament, so it tells us
Speaker 4: the firmament is the atmosphere, and there used to be
Speaker 4: water above the atmosphere. Well it's not that way today.
Speaker 4: What happened, Well, something changed. The original creation had water
Speaker 4: above the firmament, let's see right here there it did,
Speaker 4: and water under the crust of the earth. Most of
Speaker 4: the floodwater came when the fountains of the deep broke
Speaker 4: open and the water underneath gushed to the surface. That
Speaker 4: water gushing out along the cracks. I think the earth
Speaker 4: cracked up an eggshell and it's still cracked up today.
Speaker 4: It's what the fault lines are. But this I get
Speaker 4: up to where I want to be. This original creation
Speaker 4: was just very different than what we see. This canopy
Speaker 4: of ice that used to be overhead it's talked about
Speaker 4: in my video number two. That would be shattered and
Speaker 4: because super cold ice is magnetic, it would be dumped
Speaker 4: on the north and south pole. I believe the ice
Speaker 4: caps shortly during the first part of the flood, the
Speaker 4: ice caps were huge. It would take four hundred years
Speaker 4: for that to melt back. So when Noah gets off
Speaker 4: the arc, the ice caps were still clear down to
Speaker 4: Kansas City, Missouri, And that means the oceans were smaller
Speaker 4: because there's a lot of water trapped at the north
Speaker 4: and South pole. Here's the original creation slide number, slid
Speaker 4: number two fifty eight DV two five eight enter. So
Speaker 4: there was a crystalline canopy above the atmosphere that was
Speaker 4: to protect them. A couple inches of ice ten miles
Speaker 4: up would increase air pressure at the surface, making breathing easier,
Speaker 4: making it possible for larger insects to live. See insects
Speaker 4: breathe through their skin, So they're limited on how big
Speaker 4: they can get based upon how much air pressure there is.
Speaker 4: And if you increase the air pressure, you can get
Speaker 4: bigger insects. Well, they find fossil grasshoppers two feet long,
Speaker 4: where's the grasshopper today? Two feet long? They find fossil
Speaker 4: dragonflies with three foot wingspan. They don't have those today.
Speaker 4: Almost everything was bigger before that flood came because I
Speaker 4: think because of the greater air pressure because of that
Speaker 4: canopy that used to be overhead. That would also block
Speaker 4: out UV light, and a lot of the aging process
Speaker 4: we have is because of the ultraviolet light. The wrinkles
Speaker 4: of the skin and stuff like that that would all
Speaker 4: be stopped. It would increase air pressure like an inflatable building.
Speaker 4: The canopy of ice might have been held up by
Speaker 4: air pressure or by the magnetic field. Your super cold
Speaker 4: ice is magnetic air pressure. We talk about all that.
Speaker 4: You can float a train off the railroad tracks with
Speaker 4: magnets magnetic levitation. It's called pumpkin floating on super cold
Speaker 4: ice is magnetic. I don't think anybody understands physics argues
Speaker 4: about that one. So this canopy of ice being magnetic,
Speaker 4: when it gets shattered, it would get sucked in and
Speaker 4: dumped on the north and South pole. So there were
Speaker 4: huge ice caps going all the way down to Kansas City, Missouri.
Speaker 4: And watch my video number two for much more on that.
Speaker 4: I get pictures of it here somewhere, and that's where
Speaker 4: after the flood, when Noah gets off the arc, the
Speaker 4: continents are bigger and everything's connected. You could walk anywhere
Speaker 4: in the world today if you lower the oceans a
Speaker 4: couple hundred feet oceans average twelve thousand feet deep. I'll
Speaker 4: show you here. If you lowered the oceans a few
Speaker 4: hundred feet, you could walk anywhere in the world. The
Speaker 4: English Channel between England and France, you know, thirty miles wide,
Speaker 4: only like fifty feet deep from here to the back door.
Speaker 4: So lowering the oceans a few hundred feet connects everything
Speaker 4: at an atheists tell me one time, he said, well,
Speaker 4: how did the kangaroos get to Australia? He said, they hop?
Speaker 4: And so how they get everywhere? He said, we're about
Speaker 4: the ocean. I said, well, if the ice caps were bigger,
Speaker 4: cleared down to Kansas City like we know they were,
Speaker 4: they would take hundreds of years for that to melt back.
Speaker 4: And they find animals frozen standing up like mammos, had
Speaker 4: to be frozen quickly, like a giant snow dump of
Speaker 4: four hundred below zero snow. So if the ice caps
Speaker 4: are bigger, I'll show here between Vietnam and Australia. If
Speaker 4: you lower the oceans one hundred feet, they're connected. There's
Speaker 4: what's called a continental shelf around all the continents. The
Speaker 4: oceans have two parts to them, the deep part called
Speaker 4: the abyss and the shallow part called the continental shelf.
Speaker 4: They're all over the world. The whole world has continental shelves. Well,
Speaker 4: if you lower the oceans are twelve thousand feet deep,
Speaker 4: take two hundred feet out, which is nothing out of
Speaker 4: twelve thousand and now everything's connected. So that kangaroos walked,
Speaker 4: they probably had a couple hundred years everybody did to
Speaker 4: walk all over the world. You could get any where
Speaker 4: you wanted. Here you go, right there, Vietnam, Australia, kangaroos.
Speaker 4: There you go. England and Ireland and Scotland would all
Speaker 4: be part of France. If you lowered the water just
Speaker 4: one hundred feet, well, that make the British upset. Wouldn't
Speaker 4: have to put up with the French. But you can
Speaker 4: see the continental shelf between Alaska and Russia. It's sixty
Speaker 4: miles wide, but it's only about sixty feet deep. If
Speaker 4: you lowered the oceans by increasing the ice caps, this
Speaker 4: is the beach way out here. I think as the
Speaker 4: ocean's filled in from melting ice over the next couple
Speaker 4: hundred years, it would get deep enough to spill over
Speaker 4: into the Gulf of Mexico and probably Carvada Canyon and
Speaker 4: fill up the Gulf of Mexico, Pensacola Bay, Mobile Bay.
Speaker 4: They're only seven feet deep. So I think the Bible
Speaker 4: says the scoffers are ignorant of the creation and the
Speaker 4: flood and That's exactly what the problem is. If you
Speaker 4: understand what the original creation was like where the water
Speaker 4: came from for the flood, and understand that what the
Speaker 4: flood did, it all makes sense. God's word is absolent true.
Speaker 4: The continental shelf would have been. Now it's submerged in Pensacola.
Speaker 4: You can go out one hundred miles before it gets
Speaker 4: a hundred feet deep. Okay, wild that was that was
Speaker 4: the beach line way out there. So anyway, too long
Speaker 4: on that question, but go ahead, next question.
Speaker 2: What with that?
Speaker 5: You know, you hear the the global warming and whether
Speaker 5: or climate change. They say that we're still coming out
Speaker 5: of an ice age, so that would still.
Speaker 2: Agree with what you're saying.
Speaker 4: You know, the ice caps, you know, the ice caps
Speaker 4: shrink and grow and shrink and grow, but they're they're
Speaker 4: pretty stable. They might be shrinking more if the ice cap,
Speaker 4: if the ice caps keep melting, it's going to raise
Speaker 4: the ocean level. Right. The only people worried about the
Speaker 4: only people worried about that are the ones that live
Speaker 4: on the beach.
Speaker 2: That's that's what I was getting.
Speaker 4: I'm in Lenox, Alabama. We're three hundred miles, three hundred
Speaker 4: feet above sea level. I'm praying for global warming. We
Speaker 4: want to have beach front property right here and let it.
Speaker 2: That'd be pretty nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're at twelve hundred feet about, so we're safe. Well,
Speaker 3: i'd like to know a little bit about Obviously, you
Speaker 3: have really gotten into you have dinosaur land. You got
Speaker 3: the nickname doctor Dino, which honestly i'm a little jealous of.
Speaker 3: I kind of wish i'd have gotten that name. Kind
Speaker 3: of take us down a little bit of that path,
Speaker 3: how you got that name, and just a little further
Speaker 3: into the I guess some of the Young Earth Creation's
Speaker 3: ideas on dinosaurs.
Speaker 4: Well. As far as the doctor Dino, I've earned three
Speaker 4: doctor's degrees and have an honorary one, but I tell
Speaker 4: people I can't afford them mal practice insurance, so I
Speaker 4: don't use the title much. So if they don't want
Speaker 4: to call me doctor, that's fine. Call me. Can't call
Speaker 4: me bubba, call me hey you. But when I finished
Speaker 4: my first doctor's degree must have been nineteen ninety, I
Speaker 4: don't remember now. Back then before first invented typewriter, and
Speaker 4: so the kids started calling me doctor Dino because I
Speaker 4: preach on dinosaurs all the time. I think God should
Speaker 4: get the glory for his creation, and I think dinosaurs
Speaker 4: are amazing, and Satan is using those creatures to turn
Speaker 4: people away from God. Yes, get a five year old
Speaker 4: any place in Tennessee, show him a dinosaur and say, kid,
Speaker 4: what is this? That's a dinosaur? When did dinosaurs live?
Speaker 4: That kid will say millions of years ago. Before they
Speaker 4: can even read, they're already brainwashed. Christians have really dropped
Speaker 4: the ball on this topic. We've let the devil have
Speaker 4: God's creatures, and the devil is using God's creatures to
Speaker 4: spread his religion. I'm sick of it. I'm gonna do
Speaker 4: something about it or die try it.
Speaker 5: My thing is if they can I mean by saying
Speaker 5: the dinosaurs are that old, then they take creation away
Speaker 5: and then you can be like, well, if you know
Speaker 5: that's wrongly in the Bible, what else is it. It's
Speaker 5: almost like their avenue of trying to debunk God, which
Speaker 5: is what the devil's goal is.
Speaker 6: Obviously, Well, the Bible claims to be perfect. That's quite
Speaker 6: a claim, right, I agree with it. Every word, every
Speaker 6: word of God is perfect.
Speaker 4: The first thing Satan did in the Garden of Eden,
Speaker 4: he came to Eve he said, Eve, yea hath God said.
Speaker 4: The first thing he did was to question God's word.
Speaker 4: It's interesting. Then he said you shall not surely die.
Speaker 4: So first he questioned God's word, and then he denied
Speaker 4: God's word, said Eve, God said you'll die, No, you won't.
Speaker 4: He's lying. Now Eve's got a choice. Am I going
Speaker 4: to believe him or him? Okay? Third thing he said
Speaker 4: was Eve, if you eat off that tree, ye shall
Speaker 4: be as God's whoa I get to be God? Yeah?
Speaker 4: And ever since that day, Satan has been offering this
Speaker 4: dumb idea that man is improving, progressing and where he's
Speaker 4: started off like an amoeba, and we're getting bigger and
Speaker 4: better and stronger and smarter, and someday we're going to
Speaker 4: be God and sail around the universe and discover new
Speaker 4: life farms like Star Trek. People ask me all the time, hoping,
Speaker 4: do you think there's intelligent life on other planets? I
Speaker 4: say no, I troughd high school fifteen years. There's not
Speaker 4: much intelligent life on this planet.
Speaker 3: That's true, and it's only getting worse.
Speaker 2: Is not common, it's getting worse.
Speaker 4: Way they Yeah, you used to come to Alabama, see
Speaker 4: the way they drive down here.
Speaker 3: We proud obviously, I mean we're we're in the same space.
Speaker 3: I definitely do not believe in evolution, but I'm starting
Speaker 3: to believe in de evolution because of our society and
Speaker 3: everything the way it's going well.
Speaker 5: And it's like what your dad said about the mutations,
Speaker 5: nothing gets better over time. No, and then he we
Speaker 5: had we had him. I guess he is the first guest,
Speaker 5: wasn't he?
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, I thank you was.
Speaker 2: But he's talking about.
Speaker 5: The how many mutations it would have to take just
Speaker 5: to change a couple.
Speaker 3: Things just unbelievable, and the time frame.
Speaker 2: It was like, what do you say, one mutation per second, just.
Speaker 3: You know, for one cell. I mean it's it's INCOMPREHENSI
Speaker 3: there was.
Speaker 5: The world ain't old enough for what they say for
Speaker 5: everything they're mutated.
Speaker 4: I mean, first place, nobody has ever seen a single
Speaker 4: good mutation. That all the mutations are harmful or useless.
Speaker 4: And if you had a good one, would you have
Speaker 4: to have two of them over the opposite sex in
Speaker 4: the same place at the same time, except in San Francisco,
Speaker 4: So how you're gonna get babies out of this? Okay?
Speaker 4: And nobody's ever seen a good mutation, then according to
Speaker 4: the theory, something has to evolve a little better than
Speaker 4: the rest. All the rest of them have to die
Speaker 4: or it doesn't work. This is Adolf Hitler one O one.
Speaker 4: Hitler thought the Germans that were the superior race. They
Speaker 4: had evolved further and it really was their duty to
Speaker 4: kill off everybody else who wasn't blonde haired, blue eyed.
Speaker 4: Blonde haired, blue eyed. He thought they were the superior race,
Speaker 4: which is stupid, but that's why he did what he did.
Speaker 4: You can really I cover in video number five the
Speaker 4: Dangers of evolution. This theory is not only dumb, it's dangerous.
Speaker 4: We teach the kid they're an animal, and then wonder
Speaker 4: why are they acting like animals. When they came and
Speaker 4: arrested me two thousand and six, they came with a
Speaker 4: swat team, I said, arrested me for structuring. I didn't
Speaker 4: know what that was. I did not quit a crime
Speaker 4: and they knew that. But the policeman told people searching
Speaker 4: the house, they said, get every DVD number five you
Speaker 4: can find. That's the one they wanted to take out
Speaker 4: of circulation, The Dangers of Evolution. Well they missed the master.
Speaker 4: We still make copies of it. I want to read
Speaker 4: why they arrested me? Check that DVD out. This theory
Speaker 4: is just stupid. It's dangerous.
Speaker 3: One agree now jumping and this is I have to
Speaker 3: touch on this because this is probably how we all
Speaker 3: know you best. And I don't know if you know
Speaker 3: where I'm going with this, but one of the things
Speaker 3: that of one of your debates that you had when
Speaker 3: people talk about where does God come from? Or where
Speaker 3: did God come from?
Speaker 2: And you have.
Speaker 3: Probably one of our core foundational elements of Christianity in there,
Speaker 3: when we say God is outside of space, time, and matter,
Speaker 3: and it's such a profound thing. If you can't accept that,
Speaker 3: then you the rest of it isn't going to make
Speaker 3: sense to You have to understand that God's outside of
Speaker 3: those things. And you brought up the best analogy I've
Speaker 3: seen with anybody saying that is you know, whether it's
Speaker 3: it's Bill Gates. I think you might have said, it
Speaker 3: made the computer, but he's not inside the computer. Right,
Speaker 3: the computer works. He was outside of it. He made something,
Speaker 3: but he's not inside the computer. I just think that
Speaker 3: that's such a profound idea that people tend to forget.
Speaker 3: People don't understand that God is. We often try to
Speaker 3: put God in a box. We want to say, well,
Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense, so we're going to say God
Speaker 3: can only do this, or God can do this, that
Speaker 3: we want him to follow our rules of physicality, of physics,
Speaker 3: of everything, but he's outside of those rules. And I
Speaker 3: think that was I mean, that's probably the strongest argument
Speaker 3: there is, because everything else kind of feeds off that.
Speaker 4: Right. Well, I tell people the question is invalid. If
Speaker 4: I asked you answer this question, why are elephants orange?
Speaker 4: What would you right?
Speaker 2: They're not orange?
Speaker 4: They're not orange. The question is no good. So just
Speaker 4: the question five words, where did God come from? Four
Speaker 4: of those words are invalid. Where involves distance of location.
Speaker 4: What if God is everywhere? He's already everywhere? Well, then
Speaker 4: you can't say where'd he come from because He's always
Speaker 4: been everywhere? Where? Did? Did involve time? Past, present, future?
Speaker 4: Where did God's What if God's already in not only
Speaker 4: all places, but all times, God's already standing at your funeral?
Speaker 4: Where did God come? Involves distance? Again, from involve distance,
Speaker 4: God's outside of time space matter. We're the ones that
Speaker 4: are stuck in time space matter, and there been many
Speaker 4: times I wished I could go back just five seconds
Speaker 4: to undo the dumb thing I just Did you ever
Speaker 4: ever thought that before? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah. So God is not locked in time we are.
Speaker 4: God's not locked in space we are. God's not locked
Speaker 4: in matter we are. And someday we're going to be
Speaker 4: liberated from all that, get a whole new body, and
Speaker 4: we're going to get to see Heaven the way God
Speaker 4: says it. I think it's going to be great, but
Speaker 4: I don't think. I don't think our human brain can
Speaker 4: I can hold it. Now. That's why I told the
Speaker 4: guys in the debate. If you type in where did
Speaker 4: God come from? By caent Hoven, it's got over six
Speaker 4: hundred million views. Now, where did God come from? The
Speaker 4: question is invalid. He didn't come from anywhere. He's always
Speaker 4: been there. And I told those guys, I said, if
Speaker 4: the infinite God would fit in my three pound brain,
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be worth worship. And that's for sure.
Speaker 3: I don't want to get too big of a head
Speaker 3: on those views, because I think one hundred thousand of
Speaker 3: them at least were me. Because I've watched that so
Speaker 3: many times. I love that that's just such a good
Speaker 3: way of putting it. I guess a big part of
Speaker 3: this and part of what we do. You know, we
Speaker 3: are founded. You know, obviously this is a biblical podcast.
Speaker 3: We're diving into God's word. We want to jump into
Speaker 3: those areas that are difficult for people. You know, we
Speaker 3: want to peel back the layers. We're past the milk,
Speaker 3: we want the meat, you know what I mean. We
Speaker 3: want to get into things. But I think a big
Speaker 3: part of what we're going through right now in our culture,
Speaker 3: and you see you said that with Satan, Satan's using
Speaker 3: you know, the glory of God's creation against us. He's pulling,
Speaker 3: he's trying to use the same things that should prove
Speaker 3: the Bible true as and he twists it, he manipulates
Speaker 3: it into something evil. But I think it's important that
Speaker 3: we kind of keep going forward and in ways where
Speaker 3: we're trying to strengthen the church, we're trying to strengthen
Speaker 3: those people around us. We're trying to give them the
Speaker 3: tools to fight against this enemy that's that's always coming
Speaker 3: at us. When we talk about Satan, we talk about
Speaker 3: all the evil forces that are out there, the demons, everything.
Speaker 3: So I guess one thing.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: Let's I guess to break this down a little bit,
Speaker 3: what's a couple of things that you think people should
Speaker 3: have in their tool about when somebody walks up to
Speaker 3: them and atheist walks up to him and says, why
Speaker 3: should I believe in God? Why should I? Why should
Speaker 3: I think that you're right? Because most of those people
Speaker 3: are always questioning. They want answers, they just don't like
Speaker 3: the answers they get. So what's something that we can
Speaker 3: have in our tool belt that we can use to
Speaker 3: combat that?
Speaker 4: Well, it depends on the person. This happens to me
Speaker 4: every day, you know. I try to approach it where
Speaker 4: are they at and meet them where they are and
Speaker 4: lead them from there. If you can start off like
Speaker 4: different evidence is that the Earth is young. If you
Speaker 4: can say, hey, the moon is moving away from the Earth. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that means it used to be closer. Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: the scientists have done all the math on that say
Speaker 4: it can't be more than one billion years old. Oh
Speaker 4: you take away time. I use the illustration. Time is
Speaker 4: their pacifier. I got them pasifiers right here. Time. If
Speaker 4: you take away time, If that doesn't work, use more
Speaker 4: time in their mind. Time can fix everything. Ask an evolutionist,
Speaker 4: how did it amba turn to a human? They'll say, well,
Speaker 4: give it enough time, stop right there. What if you
Speaker 4: don't have time, Oh, then it can't happen. And so
Speaker 4: that's one way is to approach that from the scientific perspective.
Speaker 4: Another is from the logical perspective. If I told you
Speaker 4: nobody made this ink pen, this ink pen made itself,
Speaker 4: there's only two choices. Somebody made it or nobody made it.
Speaker 4: Nobody's thought of a third choice. Well, go look at
Speaker 4: the world. Either somebody made it or nobody made it.
Speaker 4: If you got a third choice, I'd like to hear about.
Speaker 3: It, I'd see if somebody made it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'd made it.
Speaker 3: That is that eight pen is not even remotely close
Speaker 3: to as complex as one cell in your body. So
Speaker 3: that's the I mean, that's the part where people just
Speaker 3: get lost in that. And that the time thing I
Speaker 3: think I can't remember. I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: Dad that said that that that when you it's like
Speaker 3: putting off going to a junk yard and throwing a
Speaker 3: stick of dynamite out there and a perfectly restored nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty nine Dodds charger just boom, ready to go drive
Speaker 3: off the lot. That's actually more plausible than imagining that
Speaker 3: we came from nothing, because of how complex our body is,
Speaker 3: how complex you talk about, our brain is the most
Speaker 3: complex thing on this planet. What we're able to do
Speaker 3: because of what God's given us, that we're able to
Speaker 3: reason these things out, to to dive into His word
Speaker 3: and and and take all this and and the worst
Speaker 3: part about this is that we're wasting the best gift
Speaker 3: that we have. I mean, not just us as a people,
Speaker 3: but as a whole, as a country, as a world.
Speaker 3: We're wasting that gift that God gave us. And it's
Speaker 3: that to me. I mean, listen, I absolutely love this.
Speaker 3: I love the joking around, I love how light hearted
Speaker 3: this is. But my gosh, you know, in the end,
Speaker 3: it's it's really sad how many people are not going
Speaker 3: to be there with us. And like you said, God's
Speaker 3: standing at my funeral already, and it's really sad that
Speaker 3: he won't be standing at everybody's.
Speaker 5: And with the with the whole create you know, created thing.
Speaker 5: I can't remember the guy's name, but he he's got
Speaker 5: some YouTube videos and he goes to these campuses and
Speaker 5: he talks to people who you know, he asked, you know,
Speaker 5: are you a Christian?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. And he has a book and they've.
Speaker 5: Got pictures hummingbirds, mountains, and he says, do you you know?
Speaker 2: And it's kind of like, did this book make itself?
Speaker 5: No, somebody obviously, you know, through the pictures, you know,
Speaker 5: made the book. And he says, saying that the world
Speaker 5: just happened, would be like the colors just fell out
Speaker 5: of out of nowhere onto the paper that was somehow created,
Speaker 5: and the colors fell on that paper that somehow miraculously
Speaker 5: looks just like the image of an animal or you know,
Speaker 5: the scenery whatever. And then words or scribbling lines that
Speaker 5: made letters fell onto the paper that made words in
Speaker 5: proper grammar numbers.
Speaker 2: On each page. Yeah, And a couple of them were
Speaker 2: like just blown by it, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, actually a couple of them probably were confused because
Speaker 3: some of those words got messed up though, and it
Speaker 3: says evolution is a fact, so it probably threw them
Speaker 3: off that way.
Speaker 5: But I just thought that that little the guy who
Speaker 5: does that, you know, I've seen that before, pretty durned
Speaker 5: cool too.
Speaker 2: Hell, And it's like where I was in the military.
Speaker 5: It's like you throw a hangarnade, like you're saying, and
Speaker 5: you know, throw a bomb into a junk yard.
Speaker 3: Nothing gets back.
Speaker 5: It's it's nothing but chaos and destruction after an explosion. Yes, nothing,
Speaker 5: nothing is left in order at all.
Speaker 4: You might you might be talking about Ray Comfort from California.
Speaker 4: He's a good friend of mine. He does stuff like that,
Speaker 4: go to universities and ask some things about books and things.
Speaker 4: It does a great job. I asked aatheis, I say,
Speaker 4: is your brain a result of random selection of chemicals
Speaker 4: for no reason over billions of years? They said, well yeah,
Speaker 4: I'll say, well, how can you trust your thoughts? Maybe
Speaker 4: your brain's got some chemicals scrambling in there by the
Speaker 4: way there does so if your brain is truly if
Speaker 4: evolution is true, you could not possibly even think about
Speaker 4: it because your brain is just a random collection of
Speaker 4: molecules floating around in there.
Speaker 2: How would you have any any thoughts at all? If
Speaker 2: it was just wild?
Speaker 5: And my thing also is, look look at it. We
Speaker 5: are the only say species.
Speaker 2: That build anything.
Speaker 5: You know, A beaver builds a damn okay, cool, but
Speaker 5: he don't he don't cut boards or cut limbs down
Speaker 5: to perfect sizes. There's no other animal as they would
Speaker 5: like to call us animals, because you know, we come
Speaker 5: from a rock or whatever.
Speaker 2: That can do anything that we do.
Speaker 5: So we're obviously set apart and created different than everything
Speaker 5: else on the planet, or else we'd have planet of
Speaker 5: the Apes. And then and then I'm talking about apes.
Speaker 5: It's if we come from apes. You know, they say
Speaker 5: there's an ape and and we slowly progress through.
Speaker 2: All these stages to humans.
Speaker 5: Well, there's still apes. So where's the in between? If
Speaker 5: there's still apes here? Should they not have died off
Speaker 5: because we've advanced? And if that's the case, where are
Speaker 5: they still here? If that's not the case, where's the
Speaker 5: in between? And then that just blows that out of
Speaker 5: the water.
Speaker 4: That's what they've been looking for, is what they call
Speaker 4: the missing link. A missing train is missing. There's no train.
Speaker 4: We're not connected to the apes.
Speaker 3: Wasn't it a pilt down man that they made out
Speaker 3: of a extinct pig tooth or something? Was the whole
Speaker 3: thing they had for that? I think, if I'm correct, we.
Speaker 4: Cover a bunch of that also on my video number
Speaker 4: two about the so called cave man. There's people today
Speaker 4: living in caves.
Speaker 2: Oh, they live in caves in Afghanistan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't have to. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And when.
Speaker 5: It goes, I can't remember if it was you talking
Speaker 5: to this professor or whatever or somebody else, but they're
Speaker 5: talking about like your cells. They can't discern a worm
Speaker 5: cell in a microscope from a human cell in a microscope,
Speaker 5: you know whatever, because I'm not a scientist, but no,
Speaker 5: not at all. I can fix it, Jeep, I'm not
Speaker 5: a scientist. And it's it's like, okay, I look at
Speaker 5: it this way. So so you you look at cells
Speaker 5: a selling a worm or a selling a well or
Speaker 5: sell in humans. If they still look the same under
Speaker 5: a microscope, all you have done is discovered how God
Speaker 5: created things. That's how he created life. It doesn't mean
Speaker 5: we came from the same like we used to be
Speaker 5: a worm or us worm and us used to be.
Speaker 2: Muddy water. It's all it to me. It's like.
Speaker 5: It's just the building blocks of life that we're just
Speaker 5: getting now, getting the technology to be able to discover.
Speaker 4: Well, and if there are similarities between us and worms,
Speaker 4: and there are, what does that prove? Does that prove
Speaker 4: a common ancestor or could that prove a creator?
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 4: I think you'll just discover nearly all bicycles and motorcycles
Speaker 4: and cars and trucks have a metal in them called iron.
Speaker 4: Does that prove they're related or does that prove that's
Speaker 4: a good building material to build stuff out of?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Well, God would have created us in the most optimal way.
Speaker 3: He would have created everything that was perfect at the time.
Speaker 3: He would have created the most optimal way that he
Speaker 3: possibly could.
Speaker 4: I I mean if we didn't have if we didn't
Speaker 4: have similarities, we could only eat each other. But see,
Speaker 4: you can eat cow meat which ate grass, and all
Speaker 4: the molecules can turn into human molecules now because we
Speaker 4: have similar structures, similar molecules. Otherwise we couldn't digest anything
Speaker 4: but other humans that yeah, the brown cow can eat
Speaker 4: the green grass and give the white milk and I
Speaker 4: drink it and get the blonde hair. That's that's amazing
Speaker 4: to design.
Speaker 3: It's not evolution, No, it's unbelievable. I just it's one
Speaker 3: of those things I think you have to really sit
Speaker 3: there and and just it kind of goes back to
Speaker 3: what I said before. But I mean I look outside,
Speaker 3: I look at the process of say photosynthesis, and say,
Speaker 3: how could something like that happen on accident. And the
Speaker 3: way that you said it too is that you know,
Speaker 3: this is created prior to the sun, So I mean,
Speaker 3: if it's created, well, it couldn't have gone too long
Speaker 3: without the sun because that's the whole process that God
Speaker 3: put in place. So you see how everything kind of
Speaker 3: falls into place, how it has to be created, and
Speaker 3: it's just an amazing It's a system within a system
Speaker 3: within a system, and if one of those systems fails,
Speaker 3: then that then you'll see that everything the way that
Speaker 3: it's created was perfect. And obviously things have are have
Speaker 3: strayed from the perfection. But as you see that, everything
Speaker 3: kind of lines up that we all need that other
Speaker 3: part of you know, we need oxygen to breathe, you know.
Speaker 3: But the amazing part is fish can breathe that octygen underwater.
Speaker 3: And then all these different things that that God put
Speaker 3: into place that just couldn't have happened by accident. There's
Speaker 3: absolutely no way. So anyway, I don't want to hold
Speaker 3: you up all night, my friend. I believe me, I
Speaker 3: would have you on here probably until a lot don't
Speaker 3: know tomorrow. I would just let you let you go.
Speaker 3: I just appreciate your time so much, But why don't
Speaker 3: you let everybody know where they can find your books?
Speaker 3: Any info on you?
Speaker 4: All right? Our website is doctor Dno dot com. Dr
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Speaker 4: I'm Extension three. Call me anytime. I take calls. All
Speaker 4: the time, I take a lot of calls. My daughter
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Speaker 4: to help people. The Bible is the word of God.
Speaker 4: I tell people it's going to hit you in two stages.
Speaker 4: When you study all the scientific facts, you're going to say, man,
Speaker 4: the Bible is right. And then about a week later
Speaker 4: you're going to say, oh no, the Bible's right. That's
Speaker 4: going to change everything about my lifestyle. I asked an
Speaker 4: atheist one time. I said, suppose you decided to accept
Speaker 4: the fact that God made the world and the Bible
Speaker 4: was true. If you decided I'm going to believe the
Speaker 4: Bible is true and God is real. Would that change
Speaker 4: your lifestyle? He said, that would change everything. I said, so,
Speaker 4: have you chosen to believe there's no God because you
Speaker 4: have evidence for that? You believe in evolution because you
Speaker 4: really have evidence, or because you like the idea of
Speaker 4: their not being a god. He was quiet for a second.
Speaker 4: He said, I believe in evolution because I'm horny. Yes,
Speaker 4: every male of every species understands that one. But it
Speaker 4: doesn't mean there's no God. Come on now, crazy, There's
Speaker 4: a God. He made the world and he's going to
Speaker 4: be the judge one day, and you better get ready
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Speaker 2: But we love it free.
Speaker 4: So that's all.
Speaker 3: We'd love to come down and I think that's going
Speaker 3: to be our plan here in the future. Is that
Speaker 3: come down and visit you guys.
Speaker 4: It's an honor to be on your program. Guys, come down.
Speaker 4: We'll put you on my program when you come down
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Speaker 4: give you a tour. Don't forget about the well water though.
Speaker 4: Your babies will be born naked and bring the family down.
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Speaker 3: Thank you again, my friend. We really appreciate you coming
Speaker 3: on and I got a feeling we'll be talking to
Speaker 3: you again real soon.
Speaker 4: Sounds great. Keep up to good work guys.
Speaker 3: You too, my friend. Thank you so yah.
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