Speaker 1: There's Bart, Hi Bart, Good morning, Bart's a Bart's a
Speaker 1: yinser today.
Speaker 2: Picked us up down the Strip district when I was
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I'm not shocked. So he's uh, he's hanging out as
Speaker 1: a yinser. Who And by the way, last night, you mug,
Speaker 1: so yeah, well there you go.
Speaker 3: See the WV you mug. That's that's the way that
Speaker 3: it should be.
Speaker 1: I was, I was looking at what's going on with
Speaker 1: your with your with your kneers getting the big wind
Speaker 1: blowing out Oklahoma State this past weekend. Very very h
Speaker 1: that was a big road wind for for Neil and
Speaker 1: in your knears, sir, you know I I.
Speaker 2: Would prefer to just be happy instead of you know,
Speaker 2: starting the conference undefeated is great. Uh two wins against
Speaker 2: Kansas and Oklahoma State. Who knows if that means anything.
Speaker 2: I don't think Oklahoma State is as good as people
Speaker 2: thought they were going to be. But uh, two and
Speaker 2: I was good. You're now three and two on the season.
Speaker 2: But the problem still remains that those two losses were
Speaker 2: to rival teams, and while pitt maybe looks a little
Speaker 2: bit better than we thought and obviously pretty good, it's not.
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like we're three and two, Like it
Speaker 2: feels like, okay, this is.
Speaker 4: I'm cautiously not even optimistic.
Speaker 3: I'm just cautious, just cautious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dealing it is so So basically the early season
Speaker 1: start for your West Virginia is it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a yellow.
Speaker 3: It's a yellow.
Speaker 2: Plug for the most recent episode of Soccer for US podcast,
Speaker 2: where we potential locations that we would like to see
Speaker 2: the US men's national team play in the next you know,
Speaker 2: year and a half, and one of those I specifically
Speaker 2: shouted out was Pittsburgh because I do think Hinesfield would
Speaker 2: be a fantastic venue for the US men's nation team.
Speaker 2: Women's team has played there before, so I would love
Speaker 2: to see the men's team get there on the better
Speaker 2: half of the.
Speaker 3: State lobbing grenades at rich this.
Speaker 4: Way he started it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I see how this is working now on
Speaker 1: the timeline Pittsburgh, I see how this works. All right,
Speaker 1: So we do have some things to discuss involving the
Speaker 1: US M and T. We'll start there, some injury swaps
Speaker 1: and things like that. Although it was intriguing to see
Speaker 1: the casual photograph of Maricyo Pochettina watching a Los ver
Speaker 1: Dose match at Park.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like, Brud, do you not have anything else
Speaker 1: to do, like go sample the texts in the heart
Speaker 1: of downtown and I'm going he probably does.
Speaker 2: I'm going on, man is probably very addicted to the
Speaker 2: sport and had to go watch.
Speaker 3: I'm going to Parmer to watch me some low dose.
Speaker 4: Hey, I get it.
Speaker 2: You know that's his job as he's supposed to be
Speaker 2: scouting the next wave of US soccer talent and that's good.
Speaker 1: Or maybe he's just scouting the Austin FC gig. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if things don't work out, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, not officially over.
Speaker 2: And I know that that Josh Wolf was talked about
Speaker 2: for the US for the Atlanta team. Yes, a vacancy
Speaker 2: and let's we shall see.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yesterday Pochettino was at Parmer Field watching the
Speaker 1: town take care of Los Verdes four to three and
Speaker 1: an exciting match on the last day of the regular
Speaker 1: season out West. In MLS Next Pro two o'clock tomorrow,
Speaker 1: you get to choose your opponent.
Speaker 3: It's it's picked your partner.
Speaker 1: No Sadie Hawkins or anything like that, but it's picked
Speaker 1: your dance partner tomorrow afternoon at two o'clock and three
Speaker 1: o'clock and we'll talk about that on Wednesday show. But
Speaker 1: the injury swaps, for those that might have missed the
Speaker 1: info that kind of drifted in and out. What happened
Speaker 1: with injury swaps getting ready for this window.
Speaker 2: Well, let me pull it up because I got to
Speaker 2: remember I get the for the right swap. Let's just
Speaker 2: put it that way, okay. So we have the two
Speaker 2: that come in that are important, right, you have Alex
Speaker 2: and Dejas and someone who we all know and love,
Speaker 2: Brendan Vasquez.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Those guys come in because as typical John, we have
Speaker 2: some injuries picked up in the.
Speaker 4: Last weekend before the match.
Speaker 2: So you have again Zendejas, Vasquez and then also Tanner
Speaker 2: Tessaman called in because Faleren Balagan, Johnny Cardozo and Tim
Speaker 2: Weya withdrawn due to injury issues. Weya, I think was
Speaker 2: a little bit of a stretch to call him and
Speaker 2: to begin with, so that's not really a surprise. Also,
Speaker 2: I think he probably has to just set out Panama
Speaker 2: for his now mental health sake, as you know what
Speaker 2: happened the last time he played Panama, and you know
Speaker 2: this is these are good opportunities for specifically Vasquez. You know,
Speaker 2: Baligan coming out means that the de facto starting striker
Speaker 2: is now not playing in this window, so it's an
Speaker 2: open competition to see who can get that starting gig.
Speaker 4: Obviously, you get two matches, one.
Speaker 2: Here at home against Panama on Saturday, and then one
Speaker 2: down in Mexico against Mexico on a week and a
Speaker 2: day from now, So that's a big, big opportunity for Vasquez.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think that Zendejas plays into anything, but
Speaker 2: we are light on the winger depth chart, so he
Speaker 2: probably will see some time. And then for Tanner Testament,
Speaker 2: this is big. Johnny has been the guy that's been
Speaker 2: seen as the backup to Tyler Adams. I think he
Speaker 2: got outperformed last window by Aiden Morris. And now we're
Speaker 2: adding another defensive midfielder ish into this kind of pool
Speaker 2: of who's the guy behind Tyler Adams And this is
Speaker 2: I think a big, big opportunity for Testament, someone who
Speaker 2: will most likely see minutes during the window at a
Speaker 2: big clip.
Speaker 4: Now the other thing here, john.
Speaker 2: The two underlying the underlying I guess narrative is now
Speaker 2: you've got Vascuaz and Zendejas playing against Mexico. Both of
Speaker 2: those guys were eligible to play for Mexico. Both of
Speaker 2: those guys play and Aliga a mekis that's kind of fine.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing Vascas start down in Estadio Kraun
Speaker 2: and putting a goal in like he has done on
Speaker 2: occasion during his time with Monterey.
Speaker 4: That would be really cool.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. And so.
Speaker 1: The palace intrigue rolls on when it comes to the
Speaker 1: national team, I mean when it really in this window,
Speaker 1: and since we have literally a week to discuss this
Speaker 1: leading into the Mexico match coming up on the fifteen,
Speaker 1: I mean, legitimately, what are you looking at? And I
Speaker 1: may end up asking this question again this time.
Speaker 5: Next week, after we've gone through a week of organization,
Speaker 5: getting everybody in staring at things Maricchia Pochattino wearing shorts
Speaker 5: and sampling text mex or what have you.
Speaker 2: I do need to see a good video of him
Speaker 2: trying some like authentic text mex tacos down there in Austin,
Speaker 2: because there's a I can I can verify, testify, show
Speaker 2: photographic evidence of fantastic food truck tacos in the I
Speaker 2: think it's a BP gas station, one of the gas
Speaker 2: right next to the stadium, because right there after doing
Speaker 2: early loaded back in twenty twenty one, and we walked
Speaker 2: across the street to the gas station before heading back
Speaker 2: to the hotel.
Speaker 4: We were saying in the.
Speaker 2: Interstates, So I think, you know, a po Chatino visit
Speaker 2: to a taco food truck in Austin would be great content.
Speaker 2: Put that in the behind the Cress videos.
Speaker 1: But what I'm You've got the craft breweries in the
Speaker 1: UH in the the office park, ye craw S.
Speaker 4: Get him downtown for some live music on Fifth Street.
Speaker 4: I think you get it go.
Speaker 2: I think now is a great timing year to take
Speaker 2: the team out and go see the bat Bat Bridge
Speaker 2: down in as well. A lot of a lot of
Speaker 2: fun excursions they could have. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: need to paddle boarding down the Buffalo, but no, no,
Speaker 2: that I think it's I only don't need to see
Speaker 2: that though.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: But also if they'd gotten in early, it could have
Speaker 1: been at the ACL festival yesterday.
Speaker 4: So that was that was this weekend. It's wrapping up.
Speaker 2: Actually the last when I went into twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: it was the weekend that Austin City Limits was going on.
Speaker 4: That was kind of fun. That was the town had
Speaker 4: a big vibe to it. It was nice.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Uh so you know, looking at looking at that, obviously
Speaker 1: we'll have a week two that's.
Speaker 4: More important than the field, right like that those this
Speaker 4: is what we're saying.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's you, it's your first it's
Speaker 3: your first excursion. And being here in the States, you
Speaker 3: got a little time. I know that you're going to be.
Speaker 1: Spending some x's and o's time and looking at computer
Speaker 1: monitors and making sure that folks are one hundred percent healthy.
Speaker 3: You check with your physios.
Speaker 1: Oh, I gotta go, I gotta sample some text mes
Speaker 1: for dinner.
Speaker 4: Absolutely dotting some brisket down there as well.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, and go watch the True South episode
Speaker 1: and then you'll really get some some intel when it
Speaker 1: comes to Austin, Texas. So now that uh, the U, S,
Speaker 1: M and T is getting into the rhythm of this
Speaker 1: window and MLS is you know, taking the week off
Speaker 1: for the most part. Uh, there's a lot of raffing
Speaker 1: down here that that I want to get into. And
Speaker 1: since we're mentioning Austin. Let's start there with what occurred
Speaker 1: in the lag match involving Biro and Ricky Pooge and
Speaker 1: the the reactions are literally all over the place. I
Speaker 1: mean it is everything from mahors patatas to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Biro needs to be strung up and you know, hung
Speaker 1: from hung from his hung from his sambas. On this one,
Speaker 1: I've I legitimately had to because of the wide range
Speaker 1: of emotion.
Speaker 3: That was attached to this particular tackle.
Speaker 1: I literally have watched this tackle at least two dozen times,
Speaker 1: and I've done the whole Zubruder thing, and I've slowed
Speaker 1: it down, and I wanted to seem because literally you
Speaker 1: have folks who are watching this at full speed with
Speaker 1: the with the gagermee Biro going after Ricky Poos in
Speaker 1: front of the lag bench. The lag bench is looking
Speaker 1: at instantaneous red card. They want you know, they want
Speaker 1: him taken away, you know, by the gendarme and the
Speaker 1: yellow jackets and everything. I literally had to look at
Speaker 1: this thing at least two dozen times to see what
Speaker 1: was going on with Biro and contact and Pooshe and
Speaker 1: everybody's like suspend him.
Speaker 3: Six to eight matches all these kinds of things.
Speaker 1: How did you look at this at full speed and
Speaker 1: then have to slow it down.
Speaker 3: Like I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the best way to look at
Speaker 2: it when you look at not just obviously, I think
Speaker 2: in the moment should be a red card.
Speaker 4: That's a serious foul play.
Speaker 2: I think this is to leave it, leave it, and
Speaker 2: then you add I mean there's the fact that he
Speaker 2: puts his arm up to then try to grab him
Speaker 2: and pull him down. All of those are are absolutely
Speaker 2: in the realm of serious foul play.
Speaker 4: Again because it technically is a play.
Speaker 2: But you know that that is a red card to
Speaker 2: a t that is what needs to be policed in
Speaker 2: this league.
Speaker 4: But I do think that there are This was not
Speaker 4: your typical Oh.
Speaker 2: I went in hard for a challenge, but I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it just needs to be said. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna push for a higher uh penalty. Okay, there's something
Speaker 2: that your friend and the you know, the godfather of
Speaker 2: Atlanta Soccer always molest does not do enough to protect
Speaker 2: its stars. MESSI who gets to do whatever he wants,
Speaker 2: whatever he wants, you know, automatic bids in the Club
Speaker 2: World Cup.
Speaker 4: Despite the be able to play next year.
Speaker 2: This is one of those opportunities to I mean, Ricky
Speaker 2: proache is now that Almadol's not here, the brightest young
Speaker 2: star in the league and arguably the most talented player
Speaker 2: I think in the league, and this tackle was definitely
Speaker 2: a tackle meant to harm him, not a bad tackle
Speaker 2: that he got out of his mind a little bit.
Speaker 3: This seems to not stop on a rush up the
Speaker 3: right hand side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was This was not just poorly aimed, not
Speaker 2: just poorly timed, but this was intentional. And I do
Speaker 2: think that this is an opportunity for the league to
Speaker 2: make a statement about protecting at stars. But also this
Speaker 2: is just an excusable play. This is not soccer and
Speaker 2: you have to tell people that this is This is
Speaker 2: not how we need this league to be.
Speaker 4: The you know where we are not Scotland. We need
Speaker 4: to take.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at this, you look at
Speaker 1: it at full speed.
Speaker 3: And you're you're like damn.
Speaker 1: And then when you look at it slower, and this
Speaker 1: is what I always want to recommend in these situations.
Speaker 1: We see something at full speed, and I know that
Speaker 1: seeing something at full speed in game state and navigating
Speaker 1: that in the moment is one thing. But now that
Speaker 1: the match is over and we can look at things
Speaker 1: after the fact, and then we can gauge what the gagerme.
Speaker 1: Biro looks like he's doing. I mean, Biro is like
Speaker 1: sliding and he's lunging up and the feeder in the air,
Speaker 1: and then and and he barely but he barely makes
Speaker 1: contact with Pooshe Ricky Pooche is trying to.
Speaker 2: Again this is it is so clear, whats are that?
Speaker 2: And then again he reaches up to grab It is
Speaker 2: very clear he wanted to do here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you end up with even as even
Speaker 1: as even as Ricky Pooge is trying to be you know,
Speaker 1: Dick Fosbury here.
Speaker 2: And some people are trying to claim he was diving
Speaker 2: of some sort, and I'm like, yeah, he's diving out
Speaker 2: of the way.
Speaker 3: He's trying to clear the lake.
Speaker 4: When a drunk driver ends up on the sidewalk and
Speaker 4: you're trying.
Speaker 2: To get out of the way from a car accident,
Speaker 2: like that's what was what in the world?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, And so he's still as as Pooge
Speaker 1: is trying to clear Biro, Biro ends up still with
Speaker 1: his legs in the air, with all of the vert
Speaker 1: that Pooge makes he still ends up clipping him a
Speaker 1: little bit in front of the lag bench. You see
Speaker 1: all the the the anger and the waving of hands
Speaker 1: and the consternation and such. But yeah, for me, obvious
Speaker 1: red card. And now it's going to be up to
Speaker 1: Major League Soccer to your point, to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 1: how serious do we go down this road and set
Speaker 1: a precedent or follow up with previous precedent that we
Speaker 1: may not have followed in the past. I think that
Speaker 1: this will be an interesting decision for the number of
Speaker 1: matches for Bureau on a you know, on the back.
Speaker 2: I mean, I do think you're looking at multiple games
Speaker 2: added to the normal.
Speaker 4: Red card suspension.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you he will not be playing again this
Speaker 2: regular season.
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm trying to think Austin is not.
Speaker 3: No, they're below the bar, they're not playoff.
Speaker 4: Contention, so he may not be playing a whole lot
Speaker 4: next season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, you know, we'll we'll see what the league
Speaker 1: looks at there. Uh D Graham has something that we're
Speaker 1: probably gonna I.
Speaker 2: Saw that I did not watch the Royals game. I'm
Speaker 2: really sorry.
Speaker 1: Okay, well okay, so uh so then uh put that
Speaker 1: in put that in a bookmark and then if you can, if.
Speaker 4: I can watch it, I'll answer you on Twitter.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so Dan, if if the the Stainbrook incidents
Speaker 1: are readily available on on the twitters, we'll go back
Speaker 1: and take a peek at that.
Speaker 2: What was I doing Saturday night? I wasn't even watching
Speaker 2: television Saturday night, So that's oh I was Saturday.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the had a game, and I got home and
Speaker 2: uh went to bed because I had a referee soccer
Speaker 2: that morning, and then I refereed soccer the next day.
Speaker 1: So I'm shocked that that that you refed and went
Speaker 1: to bed immediately after you got home.
Speaker 4: But I don't know about immediately, but I did go
Speaker 4: to bed soon.
Speaker 1: There were some moments in the Atlanta United match. I
Speaker 1: know that you and I were going back and forth
Speaker 1: on the two hundred and eighty character app about the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, well and there there was Well you had
Speaker 3: well first.
Speaker 1: And this is what I want to get into with
Speaker 1: with this particular element of it, the the takedown of
Speaker 1: Jamal inside the eighteen, and the the everybody looking at
Speaker 1: it and wanting you know, you know, grabbing and hooking
Speaker 1: and all these kinds of things. Let's walk through Jamal's
Speaker 1: moment and what you as, I know what, I know
Speaker 1: what the fan Bart saw. And that's that's why we
Speaker 1: like to differentiate here in the roughing down here segment
Speaker 1: is like, we know, we know what, we know what Bart,
Speaker 1: the fan was there, anybody saw. Let's break down the
Speaker 1: Jamal tra a moment and walk everybody through it from
Speaker 1: the moment he goes into the eighteen in the corner.
Speaker 2: Well, I think this was an easy one to separate
Speaker 2: fan from UH referee because to me, this was one
Speaker 2: of those where the player, the defender here makes it
Speaker 2: a little too obvious, if that makes any sense, he
Speaker 2: himself no room for interpretation that he was trying to
Speaker 2: foul the attacker. And I actually had one of these
Speaker 2: instances in a game yesterday where I will admit the
Speaker 2: contact was probable, not super hard, not super over the top,
Speaker 2: but like I had it in the game yesterday, a player,
Speaker 2: the defender just his leg is about, you know, as
Speaker 2: outstretched to possibly be while still being on the ground,
Speaker 2: and the attacker trips over him and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: well do it wasn't really contact, and like, you can't
Speaker 2: just stick your leg out, have the player hit the
Speaker 2: attacker hit it and go, well, I didn't mean to
Speaker 2: do that. And that's kind of what this was here
Speaker 2: is it was very clear that the defender, well, I
Speaker 2: don't think it was anything sinister, right, It's not like
Speaker 2: he was trying to foul necessarily, tre.
Speaker 4: He was. Once you put your feet.
Speaker 2: Your legs outside of your body, right, and any coach,
Speaker 2: any good coach, will teach you this. We call it
Speaker 2: diving in or something like that. Once you do that
Speaker 2: for a prolonged period of time.
Speaker 4: Because this wasn't like he just stuck his leg out
Speaker 4: in a trip that made his legs.
Speaker 3: Out for a.
Speaker 2: Good second or two and TI trips over it. That's
Speaker 2: gonna leave you open for a foul. And then if
Speaker 2: you do that.
Speaker 4: In the box, it's gonna be open for a penalty.
Speaker 4: So to me, is it soft.
Speaker 2: It's a soft foul, But it's absolutely penalty kick because
Speaker 2: it's soft because there wasn't a whole lot of like.
Speaker 4: You know, contact in that regard. But it's a foul.
Speaker 2: Right. We see this all the time where you know,
Speaker 2: a guy just leaves the leg out and the attacker
Speaker 2: trips over him, and yeah, it's a foul, and you
Speaker 2: shouldn't do that in the penalty area because if you
Speaker 2: do that in the penalty area, John, that is going
Speaker 2: to be a penalty kick.
Speaker 1: What yeah, I know, strange, all right, So, but there
Speaker 1: were there were others that were looking at the incident
Speaker 1: and they were wondering about the notion of let's say
Speaker 1: the foul is outside the eighteen like it's beyond the
Speaker 1: in line, and then the foul occurs off the field
Speaker 1: of play, separating the idea of possession. Say say Jamal
Speaker 1: turn the corner ball goes over the in line, or
Speaker 1: Jamal goes out of play the grab from from is look,
Speaker 1: happens off the field of play beyond the in line.
Speaker 1: Should does that impact anything? Is there a principle of
Speaker 1: verticality when it comes to the plane and the end
Speaker 1: line extending to to the ionosphere or anything like that
Speaker 1: when it comes to the orchestration of the foul and what's.
Speaker 4: Called uh no, the the.
Speaker 2: If you commit a foul off the field of play,
Speaker 2: right up one of our direct free kick fouls, which
Speaker 2: are charging, jumping, kicking or attempting to kick, pushing, striking, tripping,
Speaker 2: right if you do any of those outside of the
Speaker 2: field of play. The restart is whatever that correlating free kicks,
Speaker 2: in this case direct free kick at the closest point
Speaker 2: on the field of play right so the line basically
Speaker 2: on the field to play. So here that would have
Speaker 2: been if the foul occurred outside the field of field
Speaker 2: of play right in still inside the penalty area because those.
Speaker 4: Lines do still extend.
Speaker 2: If that's you know, the closest point out is inside
Speaker 2: the penalty area, well, then that's the penalty kick. So
Speaker 2: if you are off the field of play in the
Speaker 2: you know you you're you're outside. Say you're a defender
Speaker 2: and yes, you've managed to get your attacker outside the
Speaker 2: field to play and you punch somebody, Well, the restarter
Speaker 2: is a direct free kick from the closest point on
Speaker 2: the field of play, And if you're inside the boundary
Speaker 2: of the penalty area, that's penalty gay.
Speaker 4: So yeah, now that's two players.
Speaker 2: Now, if there's a outside agent or a substitution involved,
Speaker 2: that's different. But for this particular instance, yeah, two players
Speaker 2: going in for a challenge. If there's a foul off
Speaker 2: the field to play, then you take that and of
Speaker 2: that closest point is inside the penalty area, then it
Speaker 2: is a penalty.
Speaker 1: Kick, okay, because there were folks that were saying that
Speaker 1: because that because Ilah's having the foulla cur off the
Speaker 1: field of play, that that was not impacting any kind
Speaker 1: of a call in the gal I mean.
Speaker 2: I'm sure those some of those were the three guys
Speaker 2: who got yellow cards for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and then the subsequent coming together of multiple individuals
Speaker 1: and trying to discuss things with Ismir Pek Midge.
Speaker 2: I didn't think peck Midge had a great game, but
Speaker 2: I thought he handled anyone. There was another one I
Speaker 2: think Elay, I don't know how to pronounce. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: had another one later in the match where he just
Speaker 2: immediately ran up and like said something and he got
Speaker 2: a yellow card immediately.
Speaker 4: So I thought, I thought that was handled.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: You're a and I had this discussion with a coach yesterday.
Speaker 2: You're allowed to have a conversation to ask questions, right,
Speaker 2: needs to be in a respectful manner. And running up
Speaker 2: to the referee with three four ten of your friends
Speaker 2: not respectful and is not in the spirit of getting
Speaker 2: of understanding.
Speaker 4: What the call was. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: And sometimes you have to ask do you want to
Speaker 2: yell at me or do you want to do you
Speaker 2: want an explanation? Because only one of those isn't allowed.
Speaker 2: The other one's going to get you a yellow card.
Speaker 2: And that's what happened here. You know, you had even
Speaker 2: the captain can still get a yellow card when again
Speaker 2: the referee. While we're you know, we should be a
Speaker 2: little bit understanding of emotions of the players. The players
Speaker 2: have to keep themselves in within their emotions. Right, just
Speaker 2: because you're mad at a call that your team got
Speaker 2: a penalty.
Speaker 4: Kick does not give you the right to get up
Speaker 4: in a referee's face and yell at him.
Speaker 2: And again that this did not look to me like
Speaker 2: they're genuinely asking a question.
Speaker 4: About why that was a penalty kick. There seemed to
Speaker 4: be no.
Speaker 2: True intentions of finding information here. They were just mad
Speaker 2: and yelling and they really only have themselves to blame
Speaker 2: because you gave up a stupid red card. Dog So
Speaker 2: it was a little soft, but it was it was
Speaker 2: a foul and it was dog.
Speaker 1: So okay, So let's walk through Niels and Mosquita and
Speaker 1: that moment with dog so ball over the top, calf, Yeah,
Speaker 1: ball over the top. Mosquita is in hot pursuit. He
Speaker 1: gets there first, niless in trying to defend. That's the
Speaker 1: word that I'll use, defend against musketa trying to gain
Speaker 1: possession in his follow through of trying to make contact
Speaker 1: with the ball or whatever the situation is, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to phrase. It makes contact with Mosquita's right hamstring
Speaker 1: on his follow through. So dog so and what else
Speaker 1: comes into play here?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So it's it's dog though, right, especially in this instance,
Speaker 2: he is definitely going through the d's direction headed toward goals.
Speaker 4: Right, he is headed toward goal distance.
Speaker 2: I mean what I think it was a yard outside
Speaker 2: the penalty area. Maybe I forget exactly where, but I mean, look,
Speaker 2: that's close right defenders right, there may have been a
Speaker 2: defender close ish by, I think maybe the I think
Speaker 2: it was the left center back.
Speaker 4: Maybe he possibly was close.
Speaker 2: But then we talk about distance not just to the goal,
Speaker 2: but distance from mosquetto to the ball, and he was
Speaker 2: very much still in control of the ball at that
Speaker 2: point in time. He gets kicked, which is a foul.
Speaker 2: We just went through the direct free kick fouls to
Speaker 2: kicking is one of them. And at that point it's
Speaker 2: either dog so or yellow card. But in this case,
Speaker 2: dog so looked pretty I mean legit again, I think
Speaker 2: it's soft because the foul wasn't like I don't think
Speaker 2: the foul was intended to like stop Musketa from scoring
Speaker 2: a goal necessarily, but he found him and at that
Speaker 2: point it's dogged so and that's just you know, the
Speaker 2: letter of.
Speaker 1: The law here walking walking through it. As I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here and watching, and Nielus is the first person to
Speaker 1: sit there and wave his finger and oh I didn't
Speaker 1: do it. So literally it comes over the top as
Speaker 1: I sit in like I said, I'm playing. I'm playing
Speaker 1: it right now as we're talking about it. But it
Speaker 1: was over the top. Moskeita gets there first. Neelas on
Speaker 1: the follow through once again just basically ends up kicking Mosquita,
Speaker 1: and I mean literally Nilas is not looking. He's looking
Speaker 1: at the ball and he's trying to do the the
Speaker 1: the basket catch over the shoulder and in his follow
Speaker 1: through hits Miskeita. The fact that he doesn't know that
Speaker 1: Mosqita is not there for a double negative makes no
Speaker 1: impact on the call.
Speaker 3: Contact is still contact correct.
Speaker 2: And that's that's the thing here, is that there was
Speaker 2: a foul committed and then we do because of the situation,
Speaker 2: we have to go through the dog the deeds of dogs,
Speaker 2: and I think most of them are met. Again, the
Speaker 2: only one that's a little if he is defenders. But
Speaker 2: I think in this case the defenders weren't going to
Speaker 2: be able to stop the obvious goal scoring opportunity. And
Speaker 2: so I think, again, this is this is a pretty
Speaker 2: straightforward red card when you look, once the deeds of
Speaker 2: dogs are applied.
Speaker 1: You have one fellow center back for Red Bulls who
Speaker 1: is seven yards further away, so like seven yards away
Speaker 1: from the point of contact and behind.
Speaker 3: So I don't think that that player could catch it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so either.
Speaker 2: Again, that's the only one that I see that like
Speaker 2: possibly maybe you could talk about, but it's like, I
Speaker 2: don't think he's again, I don't think he's stopping Musketta
Speaker 2: in his attempt on goal.
Speaker 1: There, you know, So those were I think that was
Speaker 1: the Let me ask you this before we get into
Speaker 1: Mark Geiger in the interview from Soccer America and specifically
Speaker 1: the var element that he talks about.
Speaker 3: When it comes to a player.
Speaker 1: And whether you know captain can come up to you,
Speaker 1: players come together, they try to influence and all these
Speaker 1: kinds of things. When it comes to magic words for
Speaker 1: you and whether I mean there, I'm because, like I said,
Speaker 1: there were some umps in Major League Baseball that's sat there,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I know, if a manager is hot,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let him talk. But the second you start
Speaker 1: talking about my family or you say a magic word,
Speaker 1: then we're done. You can say whatever you want about me,
Speaker 1: but you start talking about my family, then we're done.
Speaker 1: What about magic words for you and and those that
Speaker 1: are around that you have conversations that are a part
Speaker 1: of your circle when it comes to limits of where
Speaker 1: and how far either a captain can go or a
Speaker 1: claud or can go before you start going blackjack dealer
Speaker 1: and every book.
Speaker 2: So my similarly, my my whole thing is you don't
Speaker 2: get to talk about me personally. You can't call me
Speaker 2: an idiot, you can't call you know, you can't curse
Speaker 2: at me. Now you can say that's explicit warning, you
Speaker 2: can say that's bullshit, and I'll go, well, right, because
Speaker 2: I understand again, I'm understanding that people are going to
Speaker 2: be an emotional and I personally like to use colorful
Speaker 2: language as well. But as soon as you talk about
Speaker 2: it at me, that's gonna be the problem. And and
Speaker 2: if you call me stupid, if you call me an idiot,
Speaker 2: if you say I don't know what I'm doing, those
Speaker 2: types of yeah, those are the things that I personally
Speaker 2: don't tolerate, right and especially.
Speaker 4: The what do you you know?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Any anything of that line, you know, like do your job?
Speaker 2: Stuff like that does does send me a little bit
Speaker 2: over too, because I'm like, well, one, I know what
Speaker 2: I'm doing, because I've been doing this for twenty plus
Speaker 2: years of my life. I've also played the sport just
Speaker 2: as long as you coaches have, in some cases a
Speaker 2: lot longer than the coaches have, despite what they want
Speaker 2: to believe, because apparently any coach with a British accent,
Speaker 2: you know, there's more the sport than anyone who's ever existed.
Speaker 2: Bite me playing at a higher level than some of them,
Speaker 2: and playing the sport longer than some of them, but.
Speaker 4: They don't like to hear that.
Speaker 2: You know, There's only been two coaches that I've actually coached,
Speaker 2: that I've actually had on the sideline that I can
Speaker 2: definitively say have a better playing experience than I did.
Speaker 4: And both of those guys played in a World Cup,
Speaker 4: so I concede.
Speaker 2: That to them, right, But most of the coaches, I'm like, okay, great,
Speaker 2: you've played in college.
Speaker 4: Well I got news for you. But you know.
Speaker 2: There are just levels that Again, when you start talking
Speaker 2: about me and questioning my credentials and ability to call
Speaker 2: the match is when we're getting get into a problem.
Speaker 2: You know, some coaches just like to yell. I had
Speaker 2: one of those this weekend where I just know they
Speaker 2: like to yell, and I know that I tuned them out,
Speaker 2: and I know it probably doesn't help necessarily the situation
Speaker 2: all the time. But if I were to go ask
Speaker 2: him to be quiet after every time he yells something
Speaker 2: about ref, you know.
Speaker 4: Ref that's that's about.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't be playing soccer. I'd have to add twenty
Speaker 2: minutes of extra time.
Speaker 4: Right. So at some point, I.
Speaker 2: Fear if he doesn't cross the line of talking about
Speaker 2: me directly or saying bad things about players themselves, that's
Speaker 2: the other thing that I'll get into. But you know,
Speaker 2: as long as you're not talking about me, I can
Speaker 2: let you, you know, yell a little bit cursing though
Speaker 2: I do you know I I will allow players to
Speaker 2: say a curse word out of frustration, but again, once
Speaker 2: that comes into the actual conversation we're having, that's gonna
Speaker 2: be a problem. You know, I gave a yellow card
Speaker 2: to a kid for dissent because you know everything, he's everything.
Speaker 2: Had a question as a foul call, Why was that
Speaker 2: a foul? What do you mean about that?
Speaker 4: How do you do that?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this isn't this. This isn't again fact
Speaker 2: finding missions. This is a form of scent when it's
Speaker 2: after every single time, you know, And and I would
Speaker 2: even try to I tried to explain calls to him,
Speaker 2: and he still was arguing, and I said, okay, well,
Speaker 2: if you're not going to listen to the explanation that
Speaker 2: I gave you, then here's your yellow card. Because this
Speaker 2: is you are more than welcome to ask me about
Speaker 2: why did I call a foul on you? That's fine,
Speaker 2: But when I give the explanation and you continue to
Speaker 2: ask the question, then again you're not on a fact
Speaker 2: finding mission.
Speaker 4: You're just here to argue.
Speaker 2: And Dan, yeah, captains can talk to the referees, they
Speaker 2: cannot do what I think.
Speaker 4: Cornell was the captain at that time. I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the three guys who got a yellow
Speaker 2: card and that thing against Red Bulls, one of them
Speaker 2: was the captain and you cannot run up to a referee.
Speaker 2: Oh it wasn't Fordsburg, Okay, I cannot remember.
Speaker 4: It is Cornell.
Speaker 3: Cornell was a part of it. It was Cornell.
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember who was the captain in the referees
Speaker 2: face and point a finger at him. Even if you're
Speaker 2: the captain, that's not that's not because, for one thing,
Speaker 2: we expect the captains to be the responsible leaders, to
Speaker 2: have a sense of decorum on the field.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: If you don't act like that, then you're no better
Speaker 2: than any of the other players. You're supposed to be
Speaker 2: the responsible one, right and once you stop acting like that,
Speaker 2: then you're going to get a yellow card too. So yeah,
Speaker 2: the captains have the right to talk to the referees
Speaker 2: to ask questions in a respectful manner.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Last topic for this week is VAR and there was
Speaker 1: it was ish discussion was there from Dale Johnson and
Speaker 1: his column this week specifically about impact of a particular
Speaker 1: activity and how it applies to VAR, specifically the virgil
Speaker 1: Van Dijk moment with Mark Gahey compared to Everton and
Speaker 1: sandro Tonali. But Mark gave an interview to Soccer America
Speaker 1: and it discusses VAR and what it is, what it
Speaker 1: is I guess, and what it isn't. And this I
Speaker 1: thought was the key passage here with Mark Geiger quote
Speaker 1: from Soccer America. What's the key to good VAR implementation?
Speaker 1: Geiger quote? The question VARs need to ask themselves is
Speaker 1: not is the decision correct? They're concerned with is the
Speaker 1: decision clearly wrong? Anything that's subjective where you can make
Speaker 1: an argument both ways, that's not for VAR. If the
Speaker 1: VARs are asking themselves the wrong question and trying to
Speaker 1: determine if it's right or wrong, that could delay the
Speaker 1: restart and the process seems much longer. Whereas if you
Speaker 1: can sit there and say, quote, I can see it
Speaker 1: given or I can see it not given, this is
Speaker 1: not a clear error that's not for me, then it's
Speaker 1: a much more efficient process. So I thought that that
Speaker 1: was in interesting that Geiger is having that he believes
Speaker 1: that GOODVAR implementation literally look at it from one hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty degrees. Don't look at it like we're seeing Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I think too much where you have vrs re refereeing
Speaker 1: a play instead of sitting there and asking themselves. From
Speaker 1: Geiger's point of view, is the decision clearly wrong? Where
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times in Major League Soccer
Speaker 1: this year, in these Monday discussions that we have, it's
Speaker 1: not from the Geiger standpoint, is the decision clearly wrong?
Speaker 1: You have too many var decisions sadly where they're going
Speaker 1: is the decision correct instead of the inverse here?
Speaker 4: And I think that is valid.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the issue we get into a
Speaker 2: lot of times with a certain league across the pond
Speaker 2: that things they know how to do, everything is they
Speaker 2: are looking at for them. It almost feels like a
Speaker 2: meat measuring contest who to see which one we can
Speaker 2: get it more? And the reality is we're all team referee,
Speaker 2: whce we put on that uniform, and we need to
Speaker 2: be doing the best we can to support the guy
Speaker 2: in the middle, who, by the way, is making a
Speaker 2: billion decisions to ninety seven, eight, ten, twelve. However, many
Speaker 2: minutes of South Chine is going on.
Speaker 4: Again, it's clear and obvious.
Speaker 2: Error has always been the term used for var not
Speaker 2: clear and obviously not correct, clear and obvious error. And so,
Speaker 2: for example, VAR looking at the dog so on Nilus
Speaker 2: in the Atlanta United game, the referee gave the red
Speaker 2: card on the field, right, that was the on field
Speaker 2: decision that point. The VAR is just looking to make
Speaker 2: sure that the referee did not clearly screw up all
Speaker 2: the d's that are required for dogso and as we
Speaker 2: just talked about, sure, you could make an argument that
Speaker 2: there may be is a defender in the area, but
Speaker 2: that is not a clear and obvious error right for
Speaker 2: the referee in that situation, the referee did not make
Speaker 2: a clear and obvious error by saying, well, that player
Speaker 2: who's seven yards away.
Speaker 4: Is in the play. No, that's that is subjective.
Speaker 2: But I mean we're talking like you need to be
Speaker 2: a couple of yards away, you know, within reasonable ability
Speaker 2: to play, to be involved in active play. And so
Speaker 2: that's a good I think Geiger is spot on. That
Speaker 2: is the issue as we're looking at to say, oh,
Speaker 2: well was he wrong, instead of well, let's almost validate
Speaker 2: that he was right.
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why I think that looking at it,
Speaker 1: there are too many I think we have too many
Speaker 1: instances specifically, Like I said, we talk about here on Mondays,
Speaker 1: where it ends up being looked at from that beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: instead of the one eighty that Geiger is asking that
Speaker 1: var need.
Speaker 3: To look at the situation.
Speaker 2: Now, let's be clear, there is one rule that we
Speaker 2: talk about a lot that is cut and dry, black
Speaker 2: and white, and that is the off side.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I think Atlanta got pailed out I won this past weekend.
Speaker 2: I think he was offside, but you know, maybe Brad
Speaker 2: just stain his goal on occasion.
Speaker 4: He's not twenty five anymore.
Speaker 2: He's a little slower than he thinks. But that was
Speaker 2: a good example of well, let's offside, as he's either
Speaker 2: offside or he's not right. But he is either in
Speaker 2: an offside position or he is not in an offside position.
Speaker 2: Similar to the ball either crossed the goal line or
Speaker 2: it did not right. There's no black and white about that.
Speaker 2: There's no subjectivity to that. So I do think that
Speaker 2: you know, when you're looking at it, especially in the
Speaker 2: Premier League or other leagues where they'd use some tools
Speaker 2: to help them make that decision, that needs to be
Speaker 2: looked at as we're just judging if this is offside
Speaker 2: or not right, but we're not judging, well, is that
Speaker 2: a foul or not?
Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Because again we've talked about fowls are.
Speaker 2: Not necessarily subjective, but they are, you know, a little squishy, right.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you could have a fact and you go, I
Speaker 2: don't really think that was a foul.
Speaker 1: Well, but I mean, what is it that doctor Joe
Speaker 1: says when he when he gives his speeches, It's like
Speaker 1: he comes out with a rule book and he sits
Speaker 1: there and he says.
Speaker 2: Fortunately, ghen, they're not bendable anymore. True because they're all digital,
Speaker 2: but yes, the rules used to be written on paper,
Speaker 2: and paper is bendable, right, And and again, you know,
Speaker 2: for example, I this weekend had a U fourteen girls
Speaker 2: game and a U nineteen girls game. Well, obviously my
Speaker 2: standard of fouls for a U fourteen and a U
Speaker 2: nineteen girls game is going to be different, right, it
Speaker 2: should be. The U nineteen girls are way capable of
Speaker 2: being a little physical with each other and maintaining control
Speaker 2: of not only themselves but the ball and their play,
Speaker 2: whereas a fourteen year olds once someone extends an arm,
Speaker 2: or as a bad example, once someone gets a little
Speaker 2: you know, leaning too far, into someone.
Speaker 4: Well, that's probably going to cause.
Speaker 2: The player to not be able to play soccer in
Speaker 2: a safe manner, and so now we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: call a foul.
Speaker 4: So that's the part that's an example.
Speaker 2: And then you look at end games where well, sometimes
Speaker 2: you know, a little shove is not really a shove.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times do we see that happen
Speaker 2: in the penalty area where guys pulling a shirt or
Speaker 2: kind of pushing each other and then nothing happens, Because
Speaker 2: why are we going to call every single foul that
Speaker 2: happens in a penalty area when it results in absolutely nothing?
Speaker 4: And so that's the thing is you're not you're not
Speaker 4: here to re referee the game, and a lot of
Speaker 4: times we do get into that, you know.
Speaker 1: All right, So to the Premier League in var for
Speaker 1: the last point. Dale Johnson this this week says one
Speaker 1: of our's biggest problems has been managing expectations. A lot
Speaker 1: of that comes down to the lack of information given
Speaker 1: the fans who've been treated abysmally of the past six seasons.
Speaker 1: The drip of information is improving, but it's nowhere near enough.
Speaker 1: One of the issues those who run the game have
Speaker 1: had to grapple with is how to get the message across.
Speaker 1: Simple fact is, no two situations are ever exactly the same.
Speaker 1: Both are judged on the balance of a set of criteria.
Speaker 1: But when one aspect is offered an explanation, fans understandably
Speaker 1: apply that to another situation. Refs know that explaining the
Speaker 1: intricacies of two scenarios puts them in a no win situation,
Speaker 1: so instead we just get a few tweets on X that,
Speaker 1: while better than nothing, lack context. Take this weekend, Van
Speaker 1: Dyke Virgil van Dyke didn't concede a penalty for holding
Speaker 1: in the box because Mark Gayhee wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: able to play the ball. Yet Newcastle were given a
Speaker 1: penalty versus Everton, even though sandro Tonali had no chance
Speaker 1: of being involved in the play before he was pulled
Speaker 1: down by James Tarkowsky. The forensic nature of var has
Speaker 1: led him any changes in the way the game is refereed,
Speaker 1: with pages of guidance to help officials decide when they
Speaker 1: should get involved. This comes down to one word impact.
Speaker 1: It appears only twice in the Laws of the game,
Speaker 1: both times in relation to the powers of the referee.
Speaker 3: And not in.
Speaker 1: Passages about offenses. Yet today it's absolutely crucial in determining
Speaker 1: when VAR sends the referee to the monitor. Impact is
Speaker 1: important for the referee on the field too, but it
Speaker 1: defines the role of VAR in pretty much every subjective
Speaker 1: situation has holding impacted an attacker from challenging the ball
Speaker 1: as a player in an offside position impacted an opponent.
Speaker 1: Yet impact on the play and actions of a player
Speaker 1: are not completely interconnected. The nature of a challenge can
Speaker 1: be the overriding factor, and that was what happened with Tonali.
Speaker 1: So nothing like the Hal nine thousand when it comes
Speaker 1: through the rule book, and I get.
Speaker 2: It, it's hard because you know, in my understanding and
Speaker 2: the only other experience I have truly of like studying
Speaker 2: to be a referee is in volleyball. And I can
Speaker 2: tell you that the volleyball rule book, the USAV rule book,
Speaker 2: is a lot longer than the laws of the game
Speaker 2: because they have a lot more things that they are
Speaker 2: mechanically looking for, whereas in you know, I just read
Speaker 2: the list of fouls, that's all it says, just as these.
Speaker 4: Are the fouls.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah, visus fouls. There you go.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 2: You know, there are a lot more things in the
Speaker 2: earlier the the you know, earlier laws of the game,
Speaker 2: like laws one through like seven that talk about a
Speaker 2: lot of duties, specifically outlining the field and the duties
Speaker 2: of the referee and the var the assistant referees and
Speaker 2: all the players and substitutions like those get a little
Speaker 2: bit more minute, but like.
Speaker 4: A lot of them.
Speaker 2: I mean there's seventeen laws, that's it, and a lot
Speaker 2: of them are pretty short. You know, the throw in
Speaker 2: law is very short, explains what a throwing is and
Speaker 2: what the offenses are, the corner kick, the goal kick.
Speaker 2: Those are all pretty cut and dry laws. But then
Speaker 2: when you get into the ones about.
Speaker 4: Fouls, they just listens. Yeah, they just listen. You know.
Speaker 2: Thousand this conduct are our one whole law of the game,
Speaker 2: Lot twelve, and that's.
Speaker 4: You know it is it is hard to.
Speaker 2: Explain to people who may not be working this, living
Speaker 2: this studying this week in and week out, why this
Speaker 2: foul may not be called and this does. But I
Speaker 2: think that does kind of go back to the point
Speaker 2: Geiger was talking about, is when we're looking to change
Speaker 2: the call versus looking to maybe uphold the call or
Speaker 2: confirm the call. We're going to have these these issues
Speaker 2: where there's going to be some inconsistent.
Speaker 4: And there's always going to be inconsistency.
Speaker 2: We see this obviously in the NFL rule book that
Speaker 2: is pretty for my knowledge, pretty darn detailed and pretty extensive,
Speaker 2: and especially at the NFL level, they are very clear
Speaker 2: in writing an explanation of little things they are looking for, right,
Speaker 2: So that is in an effort to mitigate, right, the inconsistencies.
Speaker 2: The problem was is with soccer because of the nature
Speaker 2: of the game, how free flowing it is. How you know,
Speaker 2: very rarely in football do you have a wide receiver
Speaker 2: going up against the defensive lineman, right, But all the
Speaker 2: time in soccer you have a center back and you know,
Speaker 2: a winger with massive size advantages and very you know,
Speaker 2: depending on who you ask for, very different roles on
Speaker 2: the field. Everyone out there is a soccer player, right.
Speaker 2: The only one person who's not a soccer player is goalkeeper.
Speaker 2: And we're just doing our own little things out there.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's so different than any other sport truly.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Again, going back to volleyball, you have multiple people out
Speaker 2: there who have very different position duties. I mean setters, liberos.
Speaker 2: They have specific rules written just about them, specifically liberos.
Speaker 4: Right, we don't.
Speaker 2: We have goalkeepers, but it's pretty cut and dry what
Speaker 2: a goalkeeper is in cannot do right. No one else
Speaker 2: on the field has special rules written about them, and
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 4: It's just soccer. It just is what it.
Speaker 3: Is, all right. So what's going on with soccer for
Speaker 3: us PO d.
Speaker 2: Well, we are recording tonight about the upcoming friendlies against
Speaker 2: Panama and Mexico.
Speaker 3: You're getting close to a magic number, now, aren't you.
Speaker 4: We are.
Speaker 2: We're going to be at ninety nine after this. After
Speaker 2: we record this episode, the next episode of ninety nine
Speaker 2: and the one after that will be one hundred.
Speaker 4: That'll be fun.
Speaker 3: You're have a party.
Speaker 4: Well, probably not joined US for a few years and we're
Speaker 4: only at one hundred, but yeah, we'll have coverage of.
Speaker 2: The men's friendlies coming up and then the women's friendlies,
Speaker 2: the first friendlies after the Olympics. You know that'll be fun.
Speaker 2: Obviously we have the first friendlies for Pochettino. We will
Speaker 2: talk about the fact. This is the discussion point of
Speaker 2: the podcast US tonight, as the roster doesn't feel that
Speaker 2: much different now with some of the players that got
Speaker 2: called into injury. Maybe, but like we all understand, that
Speaker 2: is injury thing, and it doesn't feel that much different.
Speaker 2: So how do we judge that Pochettino has actually impacted
Speaker 2: this team? That's kind of the discussion point for this
Speaker 2: week's episode, because again, I mean, the roster, as we've
Speaker 2: said many times on soccer for us, is that the
Speaker 2: players are who the players are. This player pool doesn't
Speaker 2: magically somehow change. It's because Pochettino comes in. And yes,
Speaker 2: maybe his eyes and perspective open up a few different names,
Speaker 2: but those were probably names that Burhalter had already looked at.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, I think, you know, I know
Speaker 2: Abby was upset that Caleb Wiley doesn't get called in,
Speaker 2: but well he got called in last camp because Jedi
Speaker 2: wasn't there right well.
Speaker 1: And also Caleb is nursing a knee injury according to
Speaker 1: Liam Russ and your and.
Speaker 4: He's twenty one. How are you getting injured? Man?
Speaker 2: Well, I have this national team. Y'all are supposed to
Speaker 2: be young and spry and fit. Why y'all get injured
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's why he didn't play this past weekend
Speaker 1: or Strasbourg was because.
Speaker 3: He was out with a knee injury.
Speaker 1: And how did I know this because of finanates FNTZ
Speaker 1: dot slash soccer down here where I could watch Lee
Speaker 1: Gun on all the b ns and keeping on. Literally,
Speaker 1: I am watching Strasburg every single opportunity that I have
Speaker 1: during the weekend.
Speaker 4: So I know, yeah, uh, exactly what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, John, you look at it and
Speaker 2: you see I mean, look, even if Caliber were healthy,
Speaker 2: I doubt he's probably in this camp because you got
Speaker 2: Jedi back and you have Christopher Lund, who, by the way,
Speaker 2: looked pretty darn okay in a very bad window in September.
Speaker 2: So uh, you know, sorry, Abby, he's nineteen. My bad
Speaker 2: even better, even better, he shouln't be getting hurt. What
Speaker 2: are you getting hurt for? You're nineteen, You're joint.
Speaker 1: Asking about Geo getting injured and being always injured.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, these guys have made a glass, John.
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh glass Joe.
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Speaker 3: man says.
Speaker 1: So, enjoy the beverage out of your West Virginia University
Speaker 1: mug and we will catch up with you, soume, my friend.
Speaker 1: Don't be a stranger looking forward to EP. All right, y'all,
Speaker 1: enjoy EOD all right, be good,