Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Constance Radio.
Speaker 2: The big story today, the only really big story today
Speaker 2: is the election of an American as the two hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty seventh Pope of the Roman Catholic Church, Pope
Speaker 2: Leo the fourteenth.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Anyone who predicted it. Maybe someone can tell me they
Speaker 2: predicted it, But no one who I know who predicted it.
Speaker 2: I never thought there ever would be an American elected pope.
Speaker 2: Now I realized that this is a different sort of American,
Speaker 2: someone who was born here, educated here, and has spent
Speaker 2: much of his time as a priest and as a
Speaker 2: bishop in Peru and in Rome. But he is still
Speaker 2: an American. I was watching ABC News tonight, ABC World
Speaker 2: News tonight and they had he has two brothers who
Speaker 2: were I think he's the youngest the family. Actually, one
Speaker 2: lives in Florida, one lives in Chicago. Your reaction, and again,
Speaker 2: your reaction may very well be predicated by who you
Speaker 2: are and your experience. We had, Oh, we had a
Speaker 2: tough call from Peggy and West Roxford. Her family had
Speaker 2: suffered so much. Harvey Silverglay talked last hour about how
Speaker 2: this is a generational switch for the Catholic Church generational
Speaker 2: and a young pope who is a disciple of Pope Francis,
Speaker 2: who has appointed eighty percent of the cardinals who elected
Speaker 2: this young pope. And again young pope sixty nine years
Speaker 2: of age. It's all relative, okay, it's all relative. If
Speaker 2: you're sixty nine these days, you're too old to be
Speaker 2: a baseball manager, but you're young and you're considered young
Speaker 2: as a pope.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: So I just want to hear from you on this one.
Speaker 2: We have full lines. We're going to get to everybody
Speaker 2: as quickly as we can.
Speaker 3: Next up, Joe was in Chelms.
Speaker 2: For Joe, We're going to just start it right off
Speaker 2: and talk to as many folks as possible. Your reaction
Speaker 2: to this historic.
Speaker 4: Day, Yeah, hey Dan, Hawaiia, like your question was, was
Speaker 4: just an important day for you, and see it was
Speaker 4: very first of all, hope you're doing well. We've met
Speaker 4: each other before and BC is actually in Hawaii right now.
Speaker 4: He just got there. But on the top of your hand.
Speaker 3: Where yeah, where I'm sorry, your son is? Where?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 5: BC?
Speaker 4: BC from North Chalunce for our friend. Oh yeah, why
Speaker 4: visit his son of the nave?
Speaker 2: So oh okay, Okay, I know who you're talking about
Speaker 2: BC now, like, yeah, probably most of the time he's
Speaker 2: in Erie, Pennsylvania, So I wasn't you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So this meant a lot to me. And I'll
Speaker 4: tell you I was home today one of the get
Speaker 4: stuff done around the house. I saw the news that
Speaker 4: you know, President Trump had the big announcement on the
Speaker 4: trade deal, so I had the TV on and then
Speaker 4: the news also said they were anticipating maybe an announcement.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what I liked. While you say
Speaker 4: you're an imperfect Catholic, I think we all are right.
Speaker 4: But I've been going to church more lately and been
Speaker 4: finding peace with that. But I'll tell you I had
Speaker 4: chilled seeing the smoke. And you had mentioned Cardinal Dolan earlier,
Speaker 4: and he's actually a family friend and my uncle, my
Speaker 4: namesake uncle taught him years ago and he's his mentor
Speaker 4: since past. Yes, he's now since path And the last
Speaker 4: time I actually saw Cardinal Dolan, he came up from
Speaker 4: New York to be at the funeral, being the type
Speaker 4: of good guy that he is and family friend. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I met him years ago at the American College, visiting
Speaker 4: my uncle in Rome. And he actually ran the American
Speaker 4: College and my uncle was teaching with him back where
Speaker 4: they you know, in Rome when they first met.
Speaker 3: Was your uncle a Catholic priest? Was your uncle a
Speaker 3: Catholic privis?
Speaker 4: Yeah, out of a small order based out of Walthame.
Speaker 4: And that's the Sigma Teeing priest that is now not
Speaker 4: the Fisal Center is now shut down. It's new high school.
Speaker 4: There not another story.
Speaker 6: Another thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a big fan of Cardinal Dolan. I think
Speaker 2: that he represents what is best about the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2: He has a great ability to communicate. If you ever
Speaker 2: talked to him, tell him. I'd love to have him
Speaker 2: join us some night on the show, just to just
Speaker 2: to let people listen to him. I mean, he talks theology,
Speaker 2: but he doesn't talk as a theologian. He talks about
Speaker 2: it as somebody would talk from one human being to another.
Speaker 2: And that's a special gift in my opinion. And I
Speaker 2: hope you can identify with what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely do. I follow him on Instagram and
Speaker 4: it really is. He just teaches, what if there's a
Speaker 4: special Day of the Saints or what ever happened, and
Speaker 4: he's got he's pretty well schooled in it's a nice
Speaker 4: little bit of uh.
Speaker 3: He's primarily a communicator.
Speaker 2: I think about you know, Cardinal Sean, who we had here,
Speaker 2: who seemed to be terrified of the media, just terrified.
Speaker 2: I remember one time I was at a it was
Speaker 2: an auction. It was a fundraiser for the Merry and
Speaker 2: Brett food pantry over in Dorchester, and Cardinal law was
Speaker 2: there up on the stage and I was the auctioneer,
Speaker 2: and so I had a cut off Bill Belichick autographed
Speaker 2: sweatshirt that someone had donated through Belichick, and we're going
Speaker 2: to raise some money. I mean, we're talking about a
Speaker 2: couple of thousand dollars. And so I looked over and
Speaker 2: I realized that card was sitting there. He didn't look
Speaker 2: particularly comfortable, but I said, cardoal came here for a second,
Speaker 2: I need someone to model this. He wouldn't put it on,
Speaker 2: but I had him sort of hold it up behind me,
Speaker 2: and I think we got a couple of grand for it.
Speaker 2: So that was the most I think that's the most
Speaker 2: fun he's had in a while, in my opinion.
Speaker 4: So for a split second dance today, I went so
Speaker 4: when I figured it was gonna be a while before
Speaker 4: the pulpe came out to Falcony and be up point.
Speaker 4: Who would have ever thought? Although, because I know Cardinal
Speaker 4: Dolan and I know he's well respected, bot of me
Speaker 4: was like, oh wow, I go back out dropping some
Speaker 4: grass seed in the backyard. I come back in and
Speaker 4: I see American pope. I got goosebumps even thinking about it.
Speaker 4: I thought I was gonna know the pope.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you last night I was talking with
Speaker 2: Tom Groom and I said that I'd love them to
Speaker 2: see to uh, you know, pick an American pope.
Speaker 3: My favorite was was Cardinal Dowan.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I did not know even of whom Cardinal pre
Speaker 2: vote was or is and now he's Leo the fourteenth.
Speaker 2: So uh But I said, but I don't think they'll
Speaker 2: have a pick an American pope. So I was wrong
Speaker 2: on two points. One I did it, and they didn't
Speaker 2: pick Cardinal Dolan Joe years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One last thing is so the odd thing you know,
Speaker 4: it's not Cardinal Dolan family friend. I did look him
Speaker 4: up though, in the pope Leo. You know Robert Francis
Speaker 4: free Will. He did go to the angelicam College, So
Speaker 4: I would I'm sure my now past uncle, my namesake,
Speaker 4: I'm sure he knew him and probably even taught him.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what if I were you, what
Speaker 3: I would do.
Speaker 2: If I were you, I would send him a nice
Speaker 2: congratulatory note and mention your uncle, and I would be
Speaker 2: stunned if you didn't get a personal letter back.
Speaker 6: I will, and I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 2: Please keep me posted, because I think that those sorts
Speaker 2: of letters, when the congratulations and I don't know if
Speaker 2: you ever you know we were instructed by my uncle
Speaker 2: and put his name down there at the Angelica College,
Speaker 2: I think that's the sort of note that they weed
Speaker 2: that stuff out, you know, the note that says, oh,
Speaker 2: congratuate relations, I'm delighted for you, okay, But when this
Speaker 2: personal connection, that stuff will get to him and you'll
Speaker 2: get an answer from it. And I want to get
Speaker 2: a phone call back from you when you get that
Speaker 2: and you can read it in the air.
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks Joe.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 3: This year we did the We did.
Speaker 2: A brunch the other day, so uh a week and
Speaker 2: a half ago on Sunday, and it was a big event.
Speaker 3: We had a one hundred and seventy eight reservations.
Speaker 2: It was unbelieve we had two seatings at this restaurant
Speaker 2: in Westwood. So I'll keep you posted, I promise, and
Speaker 2: please sayhead a BC for me.
Speaker 5: Okay, thanks man, thank.
Speaker 4: You and shouts lightning.
Speaker 3: We will do that.
Speaker 6: She was there.
Speaker 3: You would have met her if you if you'd gone
Speaker 3: to the brunch.
Speaker 6: I know he was the head of the brunch.
Speaker 2: I think they came to see her, not to see me.
Speaker 2: Thanks job, Thank you much. One line six one seven,
Speaker 2: quick break, coming right back, got the lines. Only line
Speaker 2: is six one seven. Your reaction to the appearance today
Speaker 2: the election of an American is pope, which I never
Speaker 2: thought would happen. Now, if you're going to tell me
Speaker 2: that you knew it was in the in the cards,
Speaker 2: that's okay. I'm not gonna believe you, but you can
Speaker 2: tell me that back on nights out after this.
Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling here, trying to get as many people
Speaker 2: in as quickly as possible. Look at all sorts of reactions.
Speaker 2: Terry down to the Cape, Terry on Cape Cod, welcome back.
Speaker 3: How are you tonight?
Speaker 7: I dare nice to talk to you. Congratulations on your
Speaker 7: little colleague. By the way, you'll keep you with a
Speaker 7: smile and aspling in your step.
Speaker 2: Caroline, Happy grand baby, Caroline.
Speaker 7: Yes, I thank you for your kind words. A National
Speaker 7: Nurses Day that was really great.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: A good friend reminded me of that day, but I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have forgotten it anyway.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Terry.
Speaker 7: I am pleasantly surprised of a new Catholic first time pope.
Speaker 7: May God bless his ministry from the get go. It'll
Speaker 7: be interesting to see if this revitalizes the Catholic Church
Speaker 7: in America. I think that it has potential and in
Speaker 7: a real good way. I have real good feelings about it.
Speaker 7: I think they have a lot of healing and a
Speaker 7: lot of things to change. And I do believe that
Speaker 7: post Francis Pitt his success or before and kind of
Speaker 7: gave him an internship in Rome. Well my minutia, and
Speaker 7: that's all I have of knowledge here. Instead, Pope Princess
Speaker 7: choose him to actually interview new cardinals that were up
Speaker 7: for appointment by the Pope. So he got to meet
Speaker 7: all of these people, interviewed them, and he kind of
Speaker 7: groomed them.
Speaker 2: Grooming, of course, is a bad word these days.
Speaker 7: Tom Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think what you were basically saying is he probably
Speaker 2: uh introduced himself in a nice way to a lot
Speaker 2: of the people who turned out to be the electors.
Speaker 3: Ironically.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, But I think that the Pope trusted his
Speaker 7: abilities to have him be his successor and delemann internship
Speaker 7: in it. Well, he was still able to do it.
Speaker 3: I think you're right.
Speaker 8: It's brilliant.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting because although this pope, the new Pope,
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time in Peru, he is still.
Speaker 3: A native born American and.
Speaker 2: There's always been sort of a weary relationship between the
Speaker 2: Vatican and the American Catholic.
Speaker 8: Church always yeah and uh.
Speaker 3: And so this, uh, this is at least a truce.
Speaker 3: And uh.
Speaker 2: I never thought I would see an American pope in
Speaker 2: my lifetime. And I suspect you we are. So let's
Speaker 2: hope I agree with you.
Speaker 7: I was hoping for Cornel Dolan. I seem yeah, I
Speaker 7: was phenomenal.
Speaker 2: The word I used for him is he's he's garrulous.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's wonderful. He's so effusive and and he
Speaker 2: seems to always have a smile on his face, and
Speaker 2: he can he can preach but he doesn't do it.
Speaker 7: To preaching children. He's been so chosen for what he does,
Speaker 7: and he's so perfect. Got it really New York.
Speaker 2: If he was in another city, maybe it wouldn't work.
Speaker 2: But in New York it absolutely works. Terry, Thank you
Speaker 2: so much. Won't be too long before we'll see one another.
Speaker 7: Summer's absolutely Do you have a wonderful night, Dan. I'm
Speaker 7: glad I got my voice back so I could call you.
Speaker 3: You sound great, You sound great.
Speaker 7: Thanks, took too soon, Jenny, Bye bye, Dan.
Speaker 2: By bye. We'll keep going here. Gonna go to Bernie
Speaker 2: up in New Hampshire. Bernie, appreciate your patience next time.
Speaker 5: Night Sacer right ahead, say thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3: Dan, Thank you for calling it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so real quick.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I was was Roman Catholic. I remember going up Yo
Speaker 5: Leins for my alt the boy outfit my mother in
Speaker 5: my eye, and my mother was just so proud, you know,
Speaker 5: he was just so proud. No, And then I went
Speaker 5: to a small college, top school in uh East Boston,
Speaker 5: Tom Savio. It was run by Jesuits, so it was
Speaker 5: run by Jesuits, so I was familiar with the discipoint
Speaker 5: of the Jesuits.
Speaker 6: And it gave me a.
Speaker 5: Good, good foundation for my wife, you know, and that
Speaker 5: always stuck with me. And I remember sitting with my
Speaker 5: mother watching the folk come to Boston. She was so proud.
Speaker 5: And the only thing is she died last June and
Speaker 5: passed away. And I think she would have been so
Speaker 5: proud of having an American vote. But the second part
Speaker 5: of what I'm calling is I just believe, like like
Speaker 5: he both Princess like, as a president, well pick some
Speaker 5: Freme Court justices to influence his beliefs and what he
Speaker 5: wants to go through. I believe that's what Both Princess did.
Speaker 5: He set up to keep his because we know, we
Speaker 5: know the scandal all that, and Francis acknowledge that he
Speaker 5: acknowledged it. It was a terrible thing. And and he's
Speaker 5: and he's trying to include all other people into the
Speaker 5: church and revitalizing He's at the importance of the American Church,
Speaker 5: and it is very important and Catholicism, it's influential, it's
Speaker 5: very financially supportive. And although I think that he thought
Speaker 5: this as being able to revitalize the Roman cap with
Speaker 5: church in this country.
Speaker 6: And it's a good day for our country.
Speaker 5: It's a good day. Even though we, like you said,
Speaker 5: he's he's a dual citizen, it's still it's still an honor.
Speaker 5: He's an American and he understands the what what what
Speaker 5: the church bases to go forward. And I think it's
Speaker 5: a good day. That's my opinion.
Speaker 3: No, I agree with you. I coul occur with everything
Speaker 3: that you said.
Speaker 2: And I do think that this might be the moment
Speaker 2: in time which the timing is right.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 2: I remember and John Paul second became pope, people said,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's the first non Italian pope in
Speaker 2: in a long long time. And uh, the church had
Speaker 2: now spread out and picked a non Italian. And then
Speaker 2: they've followen up with Benedict who was from Germany.
Speaker 3: Uh and uh.
Speaker 2: And the next was the Francis who was from I
Speaker 2: call it South America. People will call it Central America.
Speaker 2: I still call it South America. And now from the
Speaker 2: United States. I was actually thinking that we might have
Speaker 2: seen the pope from Asia or Africa. Uh, and that
Speaker 2: will probably be the next point. I think that the
Speaker 2: church they thought about being the universal Church.
Speaker 5: I think that is now trying to live up to
Speaker 5: that reputation. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: Thank you as always for your calls, uh and for
Speaker 2: your support of this program, and thanks for joining us down.
Speaker 2: It was the important point you made and there's nothing
Speaker 2: I could disagree with there, that's for sure.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, you sir, have a good night.
Speaker 3: Thanks Bernie. Keep us in touch with your son. Okay,
Speaker 3: tell us.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're doing go ahead, Thank you, thank.
Speaker 3: You, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: You would take a quick break here, we're a minute
Speaker 2: or so early. I don't want to short change anyone,
Speaker 2: so if you're on the line, stay there. We'll get
Speaker 2: to you fairly quickly. I promise I have two lines open,
Speaker 2: so the next three calls will be Joe, Inn, Tina,
Speaker 2: and Alex in that order, and then Room at six
Speaker 2: one seven, two, five, four ten thirty and at six
Speaker 2: one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Your perspective, and
Speaker 2: I would love to hear from non Catholics too, or
Speaker 2: even people who are agnostic, are atheists, feel free. It's
Speaker 2: a My audience spans the country and we span all
Speaker 2: sorts of religions and non religions as well. If you're
Speaker 2: up in Canada, love to hear from me as well.
Speaker 2: Let's join this conversation. Coming right back on night Side.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Fas bats, I want to say in the springtime or
Speaker 2: baseball bats. Okay, let me go Nick to Joe Ann
Speaker 2: and Waldam. Joe Anne, welcome. You are next on night Side.
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the elevation the election today of Pope
Speaker 2: Leo the fourteenth.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hi, Dan, Yeah, I was surprised, Charlot. It's wonderful. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: I never would have I was trying to understand the
Speaker 2: name as it was being read in Latin. I was saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: good luck with that, Dan, the Latin that didn't hang
Speaker 2: with you after.
Speaker 3: All these years. Yeah, it was like whoa.
Speaker 2: And and you could tell that the anchor people didn't
Speaker 2: understand that either. And wow, And when you realize in
Speaker 2: a second it was it was an Americano. It was stunning,
Speaker 2: just stunning, it was.
Speaker 10: It was.
Speaker 9: Yeah. I was watching the whole thing too. The crowds
Speaker 9: were amazing, the people.
Speaker 2: They came out of nowhere. I mean, yeah, but again,
Speaker 2: it is Rome. Okay, I guess you know, I guess.
Speaker 9: Well, And a lot of that is probably in the
Speaker 9: you know, a lot of the people were in the Vatican.
Speaker 9: It's what a mile you know, mile wide.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2: It's it's more listed in acreage, that's for sure.
Speaker 9: Right, right. But yeah, I won't say I was disappointed,
Speaker 9: but I was hoping, you know, he spoke Latin, Italian
Speaker 9: and Spanish. I was hoping he'd say a little something
Speaker 9: in English.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I think that he intended not to do
Speaker 2: it that way because I think that he did not
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 9: Be too American.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I think he wanted to be, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: the the universal representative of the church.
Speaker 9: Right right. And you said you saw his brothers, I
Speaker 9: did too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was on on channel five.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I forgot which channel.
Speaker 3: It was, Jedi five. Well maybe they were on the others,
Speaker 3: but the one I saw was on five.
Speaker 2: And there was one guy in Florida and the other
Speaker 2: guy was still living in Chicago, and I guess they
Speaker 2: keep in touch and.
Speaker 3: All of that.
Speaker 9: He said they speak every week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounded like a pretty normal family.
Speaker 9: Which, yeah, and he was the youngest. But the the
Speaker 9: one of the brothers said when they were kids, remember that,
Speaker 9: when they were kids, he said, oh right, that.
Speaker 2: They would be said they'd be playing cowboys and Indians
Speaker 2: or whatever, and or and the soldiers.
Speaker 9: He was playing priest he wanted to be a priest.
Speaker 9: And they'd set up the ironing board was the altar,
Speaker 9: and uh yeah, he said. We'd sit there and he'd
Speaker 9: pretend saying, man. Yeah, when he was a little kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just you wonder, you just wonder what is
Speaker 2: meant to be? But yeah, they were very nice people.
Speaker 2: It struck me as a really nice family. They must
Speaker 2: have been brought up very well and kind of old school,
Speaker 2: because obviously they were.
Speaker 3: He was the youngest.
Speaker 2: He was born in nineteen fifty five, so his older
Speaker 2: brothers probably were well also baby boomers sometimes born after
Speaker 2: World War Two. And I'm sure that if you went
Speaker 2: back and talked about his parents, I'm sure that they
Speaker 2: were just typical, typical couple who met in Chicago or whatever,
Speaker 2: and they had three boys in their family and that
Speaker 2: was it. And one of them turns out to be pope.
Speaker 2: What a long shot? Who would have expected that?
Speaker 9: Yeah, like you, I never dreamed they would pick an American.
Speaker 9: But I think God is at work. Well, I pray
Speaker 9: that wonderful pope.
Speaker 2: That's what the church says. I mean, I've I'm old
Speaker 2: enough to remember this.
Speaker 3: This is my seventh pope.
Speaker 2: Okay, during that same period of time, we probably have
Speaker 2: had close to a dozen presidents, so you know pope's
Speaker 2: the presidents can only last eight years. Francis he lasted
Speaker 2: twelve years. Benedict had eight years, which was considered a
Speaker 2: short term. John Paul the Second he lasted twenty seven years,
Speaker 2: twenty seven years from seventy eight to two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: His predecessor was there only a month. Paul the sixth
Speaker 2: was there for fifteen years. John the twenty.
Speaker 9: Third was there for five years, and Past the twelfth.
Speaker 2: Before that was there for twenty one years. So they
Speaker 2: get different periods of time. And let's see, let's see
Speaker 2: what this gentleman can do. Joey and I gotta keep
Speaker 2: rolling here always great, dear your voice, Thank you so much.
Speaker 9: Yeah, great, mine, thanks, thank you, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Let me go next to Antina in wunsokt Rhode Island. Tina,
Speaker 2: you are next, and love to know what you think
Speaker 2: of what transpired today.
Speaker 8: Well, all I know is what happened today was for
Speaker 8: me personally, I was so extremely happy and elated. And however,
Speaker 8: listening to your program and what you were saying about
Speaker 8: what it meant to an individual when John Pope Paul
Speaker 8: the second became pope, and I am Polish American, my
Speaker 8: whole family is Polish. That was the happiest day of
Speaker 8: my life.
Speaker 6: It was Wow.
Speaker 8: It was And at the time that he became the
Speaker 8: Polish Pope, Pope Poland really needed him and and the
Speaker 8: Polish Pope was on the world scene, and he helped
Speaker 8: to elevate Poland and the Polish people, and he also
Speaker 8: helped to bring down communism along with Ronald along with
Speaker 8: Ronald Reagan. So I'm trying to compare the significance with
Speaker 8: this new American Pope. Now, I don't know if this
Speaker 8: new American Pope, if he's going to have the same
Speaker 8: kind of love relationship that Cardinal Voytiwa had from crack
Speaker 8: while Poland and then he beat the Cardinal and then
Speaker 8: he became the Pope. I don't know if the intensity
Speaker 8: will be there, But I think that this is what
Speaker 8: the American people need, and he will be able to
Speaker 8: at some point come and visit America. I'm dying to
Speaker 8: hear him speak English. I haven't heard him speak English yet,
Speaker 8: so that's how I'm relating to the whole situation. And
Speaker 8: Cardinal Boy, you were from Poland. When he became the pope,
Speaker 8: he just turned he turned, he turned away communism. He
Speaker 8: elevated Poland and the people of Poland. So let's see
Speaker 8: if this new pope will will will do something good
Speaker 8: for the United States of America, and maybe he will
Speaker 8: elevate this country to maybe bring more people into the church.
Speaker 3: That would be that would be the hope.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Maggie Haberman for The New
Speaker 2: York Times and I'm trying to find it, uh, today
Speaker 2: said something about Trump's reaction. Let me see if I
Speaker 2: can find this. She was on with Jake Tapper on CNN,
Speaker 2: and she was somewhat surprised, according to her that I
Speaker 2: don't know, Uh, I can't find it here.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: It sounded as if she was saying that that Trump
Speaker 2: was very uh engaging today and uh maybe maybe maybe
Speaker 2: he will calm down some of his rhetoric in his
Speaker 2: relationship with the new pope. That was what Habrid said.
Speaker 2: Habrin is no fan of Donald Trump, as you know,
Speaker 2: but that's that's if I can find that, I'll give
Speaker 2: you a little bit more of that. On the other
Speaker 2: side of the break. Fair enough. Thanks thanks Tine, appreciate
Speaker 2: your call. Always great to hear your voice.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you, Dan, have.
Speaker 3: A great night.
Speaker 2: Let me get one more in here before the break.
Speaker 2: Ron is in Weymouth. Ron, You're next time nightside. Your
Speaker 2: reaction to the election of an American pope today.
Speaker 11: Well, I was, of course, I'm a practicing Catholic, Moman
Speaker 11: Catholic brother. I was surprised, but I was very elated,
Speaker 11: you know. And I don't think people realize that a
Speaker 11: pope is considered one of the world's most powerful people.
Speaker 11: And why because, you know, due to the extensive diplomatic, cultural,
Speaker 11: and spiritual information influence. You know that he has on
Speaker 11: what one point three billion Catholics are there, but also
Speaker 11: those outside the Catholic faith. And I don't think some
Speaker 11: people realize that he ripped in the Catholic religion. He
Speaker 11: rips sents a direct line back to Jesus, the second
Speaker 11: person of the Trinity, and not to go into the
Speaker 11: religion directly. But it does resound in that the papacy
Speaker 11: has been very politically active throughout history, you know.
Speaker 3: Well it was.
Speaker 2: It was criticized during World War Two, whether or not
Speaker 2: Pope Pius the twelfth did enough at the height of
Speaker 2: Hitler's reign, and he was criticized for that and all
Speaker 2: of that. But yeah, let's this. I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's an influential position. It's kind of a
Speaker 2: little bit like Switzerland that it has relations with lots
Speaker 2: of countries and even now has relationships relationship with China,
Speaker 2: which a long time it didn't. So you know, let's uh,
Speaker 2: let's see how this transpires. Uh, it could be that
Speaker 2: that if Donald Trump was smart. Uh uh he Well,
Speaker 2: this is what I just found. This was from MSNBC Today,
Speaker 2: New York Times Maggie Hagerman. Haberman flags Trump's signed he
Speaker 2: wants an end to fighting, said New York Times reporter
Speaker 2: Maggie Haberman, who's a critic of Trump, said President Trump's
Speaker 2: praised for newly elected Pope Leo the fourteenth as a
Speaker 2: sign he's trying to tamp down his constant brawling. Speaking
Speaker 2: to CNN's Jake Tapper on Thursday Today, Haberman said Trump's
Speaker 2: warm compliments for the new pope in a Truth Socials
Speaker 2: post where he said it was a great honor for
Speaker 2: our country to have the first American Pope, who he
Speaker 2: said looks who he looks forward to meeting. Was a
Speaker 2: shift in his previous tone towards the Vatican. I think
Speaker 2: that Trump is trying not to be in conflict with
Speaker 2: everyone as much as he was before, Haberman said, noting
Speaker 2: the Magi leaders feud with Pope Francis dated back to
Speaker 2: the twenty six sixteen elections. So b's a sign that
Speaker 2: maybe Magie Maggie have Haberman, who is no fan of
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, might see something that others haven't seen and
Speaker 2: who knows where this might leave.
Speaker 11: That's true, and I did hear. I had heard part
Speaker 11: of that on TV on the I don't know what
Speaker 11: share it was, but you know, Trump did a favorable
Speaker 11: explanation of how well it was that the Pope was
Speaker 11: elected and he was an American. But I think he's
Speaker 11: trying to, like you say, not stay in the too
Speaker 11: much of the religious section because he's he's definitely not
Speaker 11: a Catholic. I don't think I think he's a part
Speaker 11: of them, but he's trying to keep it together where
Speaker 11: he does approve of it.
Speaker 3: He's also you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: He's also the president of the United States that probably
Speaker 2: has seventy million so I don't know what the Catholic
Speaker 2: population is in the US, so he has to be
Speaker 2: respectful of other people's religions as well.
Speaker 5: I don't know about the US.
Speaker 11: I think it's one point three billion in the.
Speaker 2: World, one point three one point four billion worldwide. I'll
Speaker 2: figure out the Catholic population in the USA. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: about seventy million, I think, but I'll have that number
Speaker 2: on the on the other side of this break.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, thanks Ron.
Speaker 11: Well, thanks thanks for taking my view, and have a
Speaker 11: great night, good night.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: One line at six one seven, two, five, four to
Speaker 2: ten thirty and two lines at six one seven, nine
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. I'll be back with the number
Speaker 2: of Catholics in the United States. My guess is seventy
Speaker 2: to seventy five. We'll see what way up what I
Speaker 2: find out. Coming back on night Side. Got a couple
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Speaker 2: Just it's a math and the estamates are about twenty
Speaker 2: percent of the Catholic population is Catholic. That would work
Speaker 2: out to about sixty six million, so that's pretty close
Speaker 2: about twenty percent of We have about three hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty million people in the country. Six thirty one line
Speaker 2: there and I got a couple of lines at six one,
Speaker 2: seven ninety. If you have not called before, you were
Speaker 2: welcome to join the conversation. We're looking for your reaction
Speaker 2: to the election of the first American pope. I don't
Speaker 2: know that there'll be many more American popes because I
Speaker 2: think they will move that on or around. And I
Speaker 2: think that we've seen in recent years Argentina, we've seen.
Speaker 3: Germany, Poland. Uh.
Speaker 2: It kind of broke the string of the Italian popes
Speaker 2: which had dominated the Roman Catholic Church for so long.
Speaker 2: Join the conversation. Let me go next to Alex and hebri. Hey, Alex,
Speaker 2: welcome next on nightside.
Speaker 6: Hey, how you doing what in the motion of the moment?
Speaker 6: You know it's uh, we invigorated my faith, you know.
Speaker 6: You know, I went to parochial school, went to Merrimack,
Speaker 6: was educated by Augustinians. Have a fondness for them, for
Speaker 6: their connection to the Hispanic community in the Merrimack Valley,
Speaker 6: and you know, had my older sister call. She was
Speaker 6: in tears. I was you know me, you see what
Speaker 6: I look like And I looked at the bouncer, was myself.
Speaker 2: Alex, you're you're a friend of many years. I've missed you.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for calling in tonight. By the way,
Speaker 2: I'm told that Merrimack College, which is Augustinian, gave this
Speaker 2: new pope an honorary degree back in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: I was on one of the broadcasts tonight. I was
Speaker 2: unaware of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that they did. And you know, he's a lot
Speaker 6: As an Augustindian. I reflected on those guys that touched
Speaker 6: my life, those priests, and rateful to every one of
Speaker 6: them has been there and uh, you know these last
Speaker 6: five years of brokenness as the people. And I'm hoping
Speaker 6: he's a uniter. He invigorated something in me, not just
Speaker 6: as an American, as a Latino, and you know, the
Speaker 6: great to hear in Spanish, but to hear to see
Speaker 6: you know what. You know, I was watching the TV,
Speaker 6: you know, I work from home now and to hear
Speaker 6: that they picked up prope and you know, yeah. My
Speaker 6: line went out, the one up for three years taking
Speaker 6: it in high school and to hear the name and
Speaker 6: they said Provos. So I called French Canadian, but then
Speaker 6: they said in American.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what sounds like he might have sound
Speaker 2: like he might have been a provo defense been for
Speaker 2: the red Wings or the maple leafs somebody.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Jacques Provos. You know, just the tears came out,
Speaker 6: you know, relatives called the first being my oldest sister
Speaker 6: in Florida, and uh, you know, I I've lived long
Speaker 6: enough in life. I thank the guy upstairs. Is you
Speaker 6: know that I've seen, you know, after five hundred years,
Speaker 6: to see the first non Italian pope, the first German pope.
Speaker 6: Uh it was Polish, Yeah, yeah, the first Polish folk
Speaker 6: to see the first pope in Latin America. That was
Speaker 6: something because at that time I worked for the for
Speaker 6: the for the federal government, and just to see the
Speaker 6: tears amongst my Fellolatino co workers and to see the
Speaker 6: first American pope to be told for years, you'll never
Speaker 6: see this, They'll never you know, we'll never get this
Speaker 6: because the world's are raid. But you know, to see
Speaker 6: a cubs fan. You know you ain't gonna help them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I was joke. I was joking
Speaker 2: with someone today. I said, you know, there aren't too
Speaker 2: many Cardinals who were club fans. You know, obviously, Cubs
Speaker 2: and Cardinals are are bit like Red Sox and Yankees
Speaker 2: in the National League. If you root for the Cardinals,
Speaker 2: there's no way you root for the Cubs. Is so
Speaker 2: close geographically, in such a long tradition, going back to
Speaker 2: Stan Musal and ear any Banks. Hey, when when this
Speaker 2: guy born, when the Pope was born. In nineteen fifty five,
Speaker 2: Ernie Banks was breaking in as a shortstop with the
Speaker 2: Chicago Cubs.
Speaker 6: Yeah, mister Cubb himself.
Speaker 3: You got it.
Speaker 6: You know, what a what a what a great day.
Speaker 6: Still can't get over it, Alex.
Speaker 2: So he's so great, so great to hear your boy s.
Speaker 2: Don't be a stranger, man, I miss you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I won't.
Speaker 6: I won't. I just got out of my own, uh
Speaker 6: Jordan Hudson situation. So thank God Almighty on free at last,
Speaker 6: Free at last.
Speaker 3: Okay you and Belichick? All right, thanks, I gotta talk
Speaker 3: to him soon, Okay, Yeah, Douc subsensed it to him. Thanks, Alex.
Speaker 3: Good night.
Speaker 2: Let me go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, you're gonna
Speaker 2: wrap the hour for us, Go right ahead.
Speaker 3: I saved you some time.
Speaker 10: Oh thanks Dan. Yeah, I was surprised, and I'm kind
Speaker 10: of a falling away, falling away Catholic, but I was
Speaker 10: really surprised when I heard the news.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 10: Now the august Augustinian is this is this? Uh go
Speaker 10: back to like four fifty eight d the uh Saint
Speaker 10: Augustine from Hippo is that the guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be the guy.
Speaker 10: And that's the guy was the founder, that's the founder. Yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: he was a party He was a party animal, and
Speaker 10: then he and then he uh and then he was
Speaker 10: uh you know, and then then he and then he
Speaker 10: uh became a good guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well I don't think that uh, that Pope Leo was
Speaker 2: ever for a party animal, even when he was building
Speaker 2: over if you get my trick done, Yeah, but I
Speaker 2: think let me just I'm looking. I heard that reference today. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's sounds about right to me. Saint Augustine of Hippo, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember that reference. Let me get this real quickly
Speaker 2: here for you, and we'll we'll make sure that we
Speaker 2: got the date down correctly. Yeah, let's here we go. Uh,
Speaker 2: what is the the year here? Let me see here
Speaker 2: real quickly. Uh, that's a book they're pulling up. They're
Speaker 2: all ads here. He was a philosopher three fifty four
Speaker 2: four thirty, so yeah, he was the fifth century. I
Speaker 2: guess you would say, fifth century.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the guy.
Speaker 10: Well, listen, I wish I wish him. I wish him
Speaker 10: the best. I wish the Catholic Church the best. And uh,
Speaker 10: you know he could do. He's gonna have to crack
Speaker 10: the whip, okay to uh to uh the uh faithful
Speaker 10: here in the United States. I think if you compare
Speaker 10: the Catholics in the United States to Catholics around the world,
Speaker 10: I think that uh, like uh from just my experience
Speaker 10: then that they take their religious they take the religion,
Speaker 10: Catholic religion more serious in other countries than we know.
Speaker 2: And we have a lot of distractions here, okay, and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, there's been a lot of things that have
Speaker 2: taken away. Uh you know, soccer games on Sunday mornings,
Speaker 2: when parents had to make a choice did they take
Speaker 2: the kids to church or did they take the kids.
Speaker 3: To There's a lot of that.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff going on in this country
Speaker 2: and a lot of the other countries. The religious service
Speaker 2: would be the highlight of the weekend.
Speaker 3: Bill, great point. Let's see if anyone follows up on that.
Speaker 10: I gotta run for a quick story, Dan.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, if you want to hold on, Bill, I'll take
Speaker 2: it on the other side of the eleven. But I'm
Speaker 2: red flat up against the news. Okay, stay there, I'll
Speaker 2: catch pick you up on the other side. Leave them there,
Speaker 2: we'll be back right after the eleven. I got some
Speaker 2: wide open lines here. Let's light them up, folks. I'd
Speaker 2: love to take this baby right at home. Here your
Speaker 2: thoughts on what happened in Rome today. It is a shocking,
Speaker 2: a positive shocking story. Back on night Side after this