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<v Speaker 1>I know it's a different generation, and I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to sound like the past generation is better. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say it's the greatest generation. But it's different

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to adjust now. People grow up in

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<v Speaker 1>different households and people grow up in different ways, and

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<v Speaker 1>I respect that. Not what's right for every child growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in the sixties was right for every child growing

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<v Speaker 1>up in the eighties, and not every child grown up

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties was right for the two thousands and

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth and today. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe there is a sense most people would agree that

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<v Speaker 1>more kids today are a little bit more vulnerable, and

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<v Speaker 1>more kids today are a little bit more sensitive. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the gist. That's a painted with a broad brush,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not always fair, but it sure seems like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We see certain coaches getting ridiculed by members of the media.

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<v Speaker 2>For losing their temperate times.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's okay for you to sit at home and

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<v Speaker 1>throw a chip bowl at the TV because your team

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<v Speaker 1>through an interception. It's okay for you to break a

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<v Speaker 1>television set because your team lost a game seven. But

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<v Speaker 1>if a coach who's actually invested in it gets paid

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<v Speaker 1>for it, is coaching and watching film and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent all that stuff gets angry, you think it's unjustified,

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<v Speaker 1>which always finds me you left wondering what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>are you thinking? There are certain coaches that are almost

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<v Speaker 1>that poster boy for it. Brian Kelly immediately comes to

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<v Speaker 1>mind for people in college football. It was okay for

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban to do that, but it's not okay for

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Kelly. Why because Nick Saban won seven national championships

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian Kelly has not. Tom is always often used

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<v Speaker 1>as an example. I've got no problem with it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I ask you, would you send your son or daughter

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<v Speaker 1>to play for a coach? Would you send your son

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<v Speaker 1>to play college basketball at Michigan State University?

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<v Speaker 2>In a second? Absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the reasons is not because he's got

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and fifty four Big Ten wins. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>because he's got a national championship. It's not because that

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<v Speaker 1>school has a national two championships. It's not because that

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<v Speaker 1>school retired the jerseys of Magic Johnson and Greg Kelser

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<v Speaker 1>and John Restbert and the like. It's because of the

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<v Speaker 1>man who patrols the bench and because of what my

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<v Speaker 1>child is going to learn. Look, I went through this

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of my kids, a few of my

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<v Speaker 1>kids actually who were good enough to play at the

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<v Speaker 1>collegiate level, and I find that refreshing my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said to all the coaches who.

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<v Speaker 1>Were recruiting them, I said, look, how do I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be one of the biggest influences in

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<v Speaker 1>his or her life? How do I know you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the right thing in help Not helping them

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<v Speaker 1>get to a higher level or become an All conference

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<v Speaker 1>player or become a player of the week. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what you're going to do for them to

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<v Speaker 1>make them a better man and.

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<v Speaker 2>Or a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of my daughter's case, so that's what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to That was one of my questions. How long are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to be there, what's your relationship with the

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<v Speaker 1>athletic director, because that matters? And tell me what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do to help my son or my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>become a better person and ready for life more than

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<v Speaker 1>anything else. Not every kid is the same. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Trent's father probably talked to him a certain way, his

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<v Speaker 1>brother maybe a different way. The rules were probably the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but how you went about conveying.

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<v Speaker 2>Those rules might be completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>There are certain people who they're just built differently, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay, not that one way is right or the

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<v Speaker 1>other way is wrong. As when I I was younger,

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<v Speaker 1>if I got chewed out, I could hate. I could

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<v Speaker 1>take it. You know. I remember in football one time

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I did a great thing with a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>roll out on a fourth and one, scoring on a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>raising the football about the two or three yard line,

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<v Speaker 1>staying in holding for the extra point, going to the sideline,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking I was going to get an added boy. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a slap in the ear hole from my Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame coach and he said, don't ever do that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he doesn't. He didn't want me showing people up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you did that today, the kid would file a

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<v Speaker 1>police report. Police would probably look into it. Parents would

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<v Speaker 1>probably side with their child. My youngest son was playing

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<v Speaker 1>hockey one time, and you know we all watch our kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching him on the bench and his coach is

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<v Speaker 1>just chewing his ass out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the coach is red.

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<v Speaker 1>In the face. My son's just nodding. Goes back out there,

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<v Speaker 1>wins a draw, ends up, scoring game, ends I'm driving

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<v Speaker 1>home with him, and I said it just out of curiosity,

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<v Speaker 1>what does the coach say to you? And he said

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to know? I said yeah, And he

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<v Speaker 1>went into this tirade of what the coach was screaming

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<v Speaker 1>in his ear A few f bombs. For sure, wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>demeaning him, but he was yelling at him.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, what did you say back? In my sense

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<v Speaker 2>of I will coach, that's it. It's tough enough to

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<v Speaker 2>take it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that everybody should be or would not that you'd

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<v Speaker 1>always want every coach, but that coach was fine. But

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<v Speaker 1>there was a moment there that was a teaching moment

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<v Speaker 1>that was required. I didn't go to the coach and

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<v Speaker 1>the next day and say, you know, I don't appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you yelling and swearing at my son. My son was

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<v Speaker 1>fine with it. He could handle it. And sometimes, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you like this or not, people need a kick in

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<v Speaker 1>the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Oh my god. I can't believe who would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would subject their kid? When do you consider a child.

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<v Speaker 2>Old enough.

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<v Speaker 1>To be able to take it? Is a high school

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<v Speaker 1>when they can learn to drive. I don't know's that's

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<v Speaker 1>up to you as a parent up to you as

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<v Speaker 1>an individual. I suppose for me it's not a huge

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<v Speaker 1>deal as long as you're not assaulting or demeaning my child.

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<v Speaker 1>I never felt like that was a big deal. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to sit there and all you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do is talk about him negatively and try to

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<v Speaker 1>crush his confidence, then we're going to have a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there is an issue where you see he's

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<v Speaker 1>not giving one hundred percent, you don't think he's giving

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<v Speaker 1>you your attention, the attention that is desired and needed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't think he's doing what's best for the team,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to chastise him, go ahead, because I

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<v Speaker 1>got news for you. It's kind of the way life is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not always fair, but sometimes it requires you to

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<v Speaker 1>push yourself a little bit. There's nothing wrong with that

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned. So what I have my

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<v Speaker 1>son play for time is all You're damn right.

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<v Speaker 2>I would. Well, I've had my daughter play for somebody

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<v Speaker 2>like pat Summit, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were coaches who they force you, they push

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<v Speaker 1>you to be better. I love that. I have never

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<v Speaker 1>been a big Rick Patino fan, but Rick Patino, to

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<v Speaker 1>his credit, in his early seventies, is a disciplinarian. He

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<v Speaker 1>is going to push his players. He has made, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you believe it or not, Saint John's relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how often you are watching college basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're just watching Michigan State or Michigan or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But taking Saint John's to number ten, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Patino has done with this team, it's it's really impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>They're twenty two and four, they're number one in the

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<v Speaker 1>Big East. They are packing Madison Square Garden, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just played Villain, No, not Villanova. They played Creighton over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend and they were down big at the half

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<v Speaker 1>and they came back and won. A lot of it

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<v Speaker 1>is because they started making buckets and they started buying

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<v Speaker 1>more into the system, right. But also a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of that is because of Rick Patino and what he

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<v Speaker 1>told them at halftime. This with some of the salty

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<v Speaker 1>language beeped out, is what he said to his team.

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<v Speaker 2>The game and be a basketball player.

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<v Speaker 3>They did.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time you miss a shot, your game to plays.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't care about your mid shots. Playing defense.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys keep blowing opportunity upon opportunity upon opportunity. You're

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<v Speaker 3>like children with bad things happening. Instead of digging it,

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<v Speaker 3>be tougher, you will. Where is your toughness? Where have

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<v Speaker 3>you guys been raised that you'd so wee nally give

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<v Speaker 3>up putting something that's all right for you? Don't you

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<v Speaker 3>know what diversity about? That's the game one, not the

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<v Speaker 3>game of basketball. You don't get down on things go wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>You're thinking it can comfort your whole life's gonna be adversity,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever dealing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thumbs up or thumbs down on that? Because I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I give it a huge thumbs up. Yeah I do,

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<v Speaker 2>two thumbs up, three thumbs up, whatever, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were down by as many as ten in

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<v Speaker 1>that game and came back and won it. Actually won

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<v Speaker 1>the first one both halves, but came back and won it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the bottom line is, even though it was just

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<v Speaker 1>a one point game at the half, Rick Patino and

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<v Speaker 1>they were up by one, Rick Patino.

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<v Speaker 2>Had that type of message. Now, some people.

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<v Speaker 1>Who might be of a different era, and some people

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<v Speaker 1>who may have been raised differently, would find that very offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it refreshing.

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<v Speaker 1>The word awesome comes to mind, the phrase good for

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<v Speaker 1>you comes to mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that work every time? No, Nope, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>work every week. It's not gonna work every game.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're down at the half, or you're down at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in the game, they would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the half because you're in a halftime scenario there seen

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<v Speaker 1>where you're listening to the coach and he's getting that

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<v Speaker 1>type of captive audience. That's not him on the sidelines

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<v Speaker 1>midway through the second half. That's him at the half

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<v Speaker 1>and his team was up forty to thirty nine, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>at the break. So he's basically saying, even though you're up,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the body language.

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<v Speaker 2>What has happened when they went on the run. When

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to fight back? Maybe there might be

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<v Speaker 2>a parent or two who might be a little offended

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<v Speaker 2>by how were you raised? Where you just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sulk and begin to give up. That might be a

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<v Speaker 2>little offensive to.

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<v Speaker 1>Parents, maybe even me if I were had my child

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<v Speaker 1>playing on that team.

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<v Speaker 2>But the overall message is dead on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's right there, and it's something that I'm sure many

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<v Speaker 1>of those kids will remember and will use moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's an example of emotion working. Don't you think

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<v Speaker 2>I've said emotion can only take you so far. And

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<v Speaker 2>I truly believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>But when that emotion is stirred up, there's something there,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rick Patino was able to deliver