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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I'd like to

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welcome the show Jennifer Rose.

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Speaker 2: Hey doing Jennifer, I Alex, I'm doing really well. Thank

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you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. I

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am intrigued with your story. I mean, I love all

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the intuitives that come on the show because they all

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have different journeys, some similarities, but all different journeys to

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get to where they are as a professional doing this

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out in the open and not in the corner of

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a cult bookstore somewhere, you know what I mean. So

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so let me ask you. Can you take me back

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the first moment that you knew spirit was speaking to you.

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Because for everybody who doesn't know who you are, you

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are a psychic medium, right, so you do speak to

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the dead or to people on the other side, and

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you're as an intuitive so you can get messages and

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things like that. So can you explain when was the

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first moment you started saying hey, something is a little

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different here.

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Speaker 2: Very good question. Even when I was a little girl,

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I did know I was intuitive, and in that time period,

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no one really believed me. So I just kind of

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kept it quiet. But I had an awareness that I

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sort of knew things, you know, and so I just

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kind of kept that quiet. And I wasn't one of

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the children seeing a lot of spirits, but I did

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have spiritual experiences that I can look back on now

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and go, oh, wow, that was spirit, you know. I

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just as a child, you don't know what that is.

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You just feel something, feel this, you know, amazing, you know,

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love and light come over you, and like, oh, that

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was spirit visiting me. And so I had a few

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of these things along the way happened. And I was

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always interested in anything metaphysical from the time I was little.

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So if there was anything on TV, I was drawn

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to it, you know, like a moth flame. And as

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a teen, I was over at the metaphysical bookstores, you know,

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looking at the crystals, looking at the books, you know,

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having little readings with the psychics who were working there

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and things like that too. And so I just I

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just kind of kept that part of me, not completely quiet,

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but just kept but I kept it. I didn't completely

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deny it, and it just wasn't until later in life

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that finally the calling came. It's almost like the light

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switch came on and said it's time, and I'm like, okay, scary,

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but okay, let's go.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you, just from your own

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personal perspective, when you were getting those readings in the back,

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because I mean, I've I've had readings in the back

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of a Metaphors bookstore, and I'm curious how accurate were they?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Did you I mean did you could you go back

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and go, oh, she was really good or was it like,

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oh god, this is just a gypsy? Uh? You know

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what I mean? So what did you What was your

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Speaker 2: That they were all they were all good that I

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I would I would say most of them were very good. Yeah, really,

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and and they did validate me, you know, and and

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my abilities too, and helped me with other life stuff

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that was happening at the time. And so I can

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look them back and say they actually were good.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a good Because I mean as a young

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as a young man, I mean psychics and mediums and

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all that stuff were embedded in my culture and the

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Cuban culture. So I was always searching out psychics. But

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I was always searching out psychics because I was afraid

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of what was going to come next. Yeah, but it

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doesn't sound like that you were just exploring. You were

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trying to get validation. Yeah, anybody ever? Did anyone ever

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tell you about what you're doing?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Did any of any of the psychics that you spoke

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to before you became a professional psychic?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, not that I remember. Not that

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I remember, so that wouldn't have been until later when

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I was already developing and got it. I do remember

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one of my teachers was in trance. We were in

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a physical mediumship circle at the time, and the spirit

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helper who came through him was did let me know, like,

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lots of people. And I'm like okay. And so I

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just knew I wanted to be a medium, and I

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didn't know all of these other things would come forth,

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like the trance and the teaching and the shows and

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all of this. So it's been a big surprise, but

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a fun journey, really hard journey too. But yeah, so

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I didn't get that inkling that something that this big

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was going to show up for me.

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Speaker 1: Now, when you say trans, are you talking about channeling

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or what does that mean exactly?

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I trained for that almost from the beginning as well too,

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So trans in channeling, I kind of use them interchangeably.

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Everybody's a little different in how they like to describe it.

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There's just different levels from inspired speaking into deep trance

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where you barely remember anything and there's a very very

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strong control with you, you know what I mean, Like

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very strong blending is what the word I was using

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for that too, And I really enjoy doing it though.

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Speaker 1: So is it like, so, as an example, is it

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Whoopy Goldberg and ghost where a spirit actually comes into

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your body or is it just like channeling, you're the

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voids and your Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just allow my awareness to go farther

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and farther out of the way, and so I allow

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for a blending to take place, but they're not going

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in your body. They're just kind of merging with sort

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of your energy. If you want to be really accurate.

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energy will get pretty kind of dense, like this big

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heavy blanket that kind of comes over you. So if

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you're going into a deeper level trance and then you

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just practice lighting, your own self fall away. So you

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have to have a lot of trust and spirit world

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to be able to do that. Many people they use

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the word channeling when they're talking about connecting with say

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angels or interdimensional beings, things like that, that would be

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more common with that word, but you're channeling your channeling,

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So it's really the same thing. It's just some people

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section it often trances speaking means guides and loved ones

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and channeling means interdimensional beings and things like that. Masters, yeah, yeah,

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And so the real difference is how deep you get.

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and automatic writing, and then you can go deeper and

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deeper and deeper tour you barely remember anything that's happened.

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Speaker 1: So so so when you're a trance medium, are you

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basically channeling a loved one? So Uncle Bob I always

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use Uncle Bob I have an uncle Bob, but Bob

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is my default spirit. Uh So if uncle if you

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and I are having a session and Uncle Bob shows up,

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does Uncle Bob kind of go through you and then

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speaks to me directly? I'm just curious of how it works.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so when you're when you're in trance and a

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loved one is connecting as they would be speaking to

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you as if it were them. It wouldn't be me

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being kind of the translator like with mental mediumship. You know,

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I'm like, your uncle Bob is telling me this. He's

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showing me this, So that's different. But they would actually

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just be streaking speaking directly to you as them, and

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so you would want, you know, enough enough of their

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essence to come through and so that you would feel

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very confident it was that, if that makes sense. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, so in other words, it wouldn't be you're not

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translating anymore. I'm actually having a conversation.

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Speaker 2: With exactly Uncle Bob.

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Speaker 1: So it is a version of of Whoopy Goldberg, but

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without the possession.

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Speaker 2: If you will, like Bob's energies. Yeah, that's not it.

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Speaker 1: You're I've never Yeah, they got a lot of things

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right in that movie. They got a few things off

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with it, but so so it's just you are having

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a direct cause. So that's interesting because I that's that's rare.

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Speaker 2: It's not at least Yeah, it's not as common. Yeah,

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I have worked with that before. But most common would

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be like spirit guides. That's probably the most common when

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it comes, especially if you're in the mediumship world. That's

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most common of what's expected. I do both, like I

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get angelic frequencies quite a bit, and I have had

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some ets show up for me as well too, so

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and sometimes it's a collective, so I don't I don't

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have a preference. It's like whoever is here that would

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like to communicate. I'm just I come with my open

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heart and say you're welcome and let's do this.

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Speaker 1: And so it's not a lot of people. Yeah, So yeah,

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would would be concerned about, you know, darker injuries or

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like who's who's coming through you all that stuff. And

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from my understanding, my experience is that you either have

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your own kind of spirit team, like as bouncers at

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the door kind of protecting you on the other side,

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only allowing certain things to come through. So by the

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time they get to you, you have a you feel safe.

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Speaker 2: I've just never had anything bad ever happen like that too.

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good teachers that taught me about the spirit world and

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that helped me. So I didn't come in there with

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a lot of like fear and pre existing belief systems,

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and so that can change your experience whatever your belief

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systems are too. So it's just never been an issue

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for me too. So yeah, and everything that comes through

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is just love. So sometimes people will say who do

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you channel? And it doesn't really matter. Is the identity

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like I sometimes I'll desire to just kind of love.

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not as important as the experience that you're having, the

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feeling and the atmosphere. Do you feel the do you

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feel the opening of your heart, do you feel the

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love of the spirit world kind of embracing you. Do

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you feel your own soul starting to recognize the words

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and saying, yeah, that feels right, that's that's the cult thing.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's yeah. Now when you when you started

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to do this professionally, what did your family think? What

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did your friends think? You know, was it always like, oh,

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it's Jennifer, she's the weirdo. That makes sense, you know.

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How does it work out to work?

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surprised and to try to be as supportive as they

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that I believed. So now, like with family, we just

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there's different levels of belief systems there and we just

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respect each other. It doesn't bother me, Like I have

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no desire to change any of my family members to

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think a different way, Like that's their journey, and so

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we just respect each other as we are and that

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say that my old friends rejected me. It was just

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my life. My life changed and went in a new direction,

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and you know, they gradually just kind of fade away

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over time. So yeah, a lot of new new friends,

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new circles, and but I love it. I love I

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love the community that we're all building together and meeting

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new people like yourself. So that's it is a lot

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up or a spiritual background growing up?

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then we just kind of stopped. And so I'm kind

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of grateful for that because it didn't you know, it

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didn't put more conditioning into my awareness that I would

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have to say unravel or let go and those kinds

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of things too. So I'm kind of grateful for that

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that that didn't happen, because I know that's been really

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hard for people who have left their organized religion, you know,

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where it's Catholicism or something else, and it's it's a

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lot of work to heal that and sort of let

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go of of what they were told into something new

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and the unknown of that, if that makes sense. So yeah,

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I'm grateful that I didn't put that in my basket

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as a soul coming down. I didn't say let's have

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a trauma that was my best.

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the shopping cart, in the shopping cart exactly. So when

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you so explain to me your process of when you

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are seeing or when you're communicating to the other side,

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is it a clairvoyance, is a clear audience all the claires?

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Do you see? Obviously you say you don't see Uncle

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Bob walking around. Is it a hearing or is it

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a truly just a channeling?

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Speaker 2: It's everything. So at this point, all my players just

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work together. So it's you know, I'm seeing and feeling

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and sort of hearing things all at the same time,

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and that's just so it comes out pretty quickly. I

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don't smell and taste as often as I feel, see

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and hear or no, But yeah, they kind of all

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work together over time for me, and then I have

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awareness there's a shift in the atmosphere, and it's just like, oh,

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someone's here, And it's pretty quick now. But I've been

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doing it for a long time so and I've worked

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mostly, yeah, yeah, mostly. So there's objective and subjective clairvoyance,

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and so objective is when you literally can see spirits

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outside with your eyeballs, and that's pretty rare. Some people

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can see shadows on walls and things like that. You know,

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But most of it is subjective. It's in my mind's eyes.

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So it's kind of like having this movie sort of

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playing and it comes out. But anyone can do it.

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a red apple in your mind, that's your curarevoyance. The

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only difference is spirit would put the red apple in

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there for you instead of you imagining it. That's only difference.

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Speaker 1: How do so how do you? And I think this

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is the biggest problem with people trying to open up

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their own abilities. How can you tell if the apple

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is you putting the apple there, or if some or

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the spirit world is putting the apple there? Because it's

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very confusing. Unless there's a booming voice or you know,

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the voice of God or some something that's so outside

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of you, then you could go obviously yeah else, But

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most of the times it's just your own voice.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And mediumship happens in the imagination part of

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your mind and your brain, So that's the biggest question everybody.

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And eventually you just know. Eventually you get to trust yourself,

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your connection and spirit world more and more and more.

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That where you just know and you're just so in

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the flow, there's nothing else kind of competing with it too.

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It's better to say it and be wrong than not

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say it and have been right and missed an opportunity

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to learn the sort of learn the difference, if that

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makes sense. So there it is possible that your own

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mind can filter information and add information in, especially if

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you're trying to figure out what you're getting. So once

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that part kind of comes in, then it can be

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your mind wants to help a little bit, so over

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time you'll get better and better and better at this.

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not trying to mess up your reading. It's just trying

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to help. It helps. Also if you can learn to

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feel the energy, learn to feel the power of the

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spirit world, and so then you feel the shift in

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the atmosphere, you feel the emote. They usually can make

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you feel a bit emotional as they come close because

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it's a very loving frequency that they come in with.

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And so that helps too. And you maybe you get

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some tingles or something like that too, so that can

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help give you some reassurance that it's happening. But it's

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it's practice. It just got to keep practicing with people,

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get their yeses, get their nose their I don't knows,

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and keep going and eventually that muscle gets stronger and

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stronger and stronger, just like your body's muscles get stronger

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with practice too.

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Speaker 1: So h it does it does with you? With you,

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and I know with your your your channeling or trans

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medium ship, did you have to kind of build up

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your nervous system to handle those energies coming in because

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from what I understand, if you're just a fresh trans medium, uh,

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and then you know, a very powerful energy comes through.

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Let's say an ascended Master Jesus walks in and wants

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to channel through you. It's a heavy not heavy, but

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it's a very powerful energy and your your nervousness physically

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might not be able to hand it. You have to

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kind of build up a tolerance. Is that the way

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it works with you a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit, I can say that that I'm more accustomed

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to it now that I've gotten used to it, so

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I could say that's true. Grounding is really important. We

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all talk about that, that's really important. But I do

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know that when power gets intense, we can go into

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fear and create stories about it too, And so that's

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when your nervous system actually gets to be feeling maybe

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a little unsafe or uncertain too. And so I also

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know that sometimes when that power comes in, people tend

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to hold their breath and then it gets more intense.

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So I was just saying, just relax into it. So,

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especially if you're practicing with trance and your helpers coming

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a little closer, a little closer, I recommend practicing it

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that way, a little bit closer, a little bit closer,

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and then keep just relaxing into it, just relaxing into

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it as it gets a little bit more intense too.

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They're not there to harm you, and they're very aware

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of what's happening too, so they know you're safe. It's

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more of like what our minds are doing to interpret

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the energy versus what's actually happening my lens.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I know a lot of other psychics and mediums.

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A lot of times they get woken up in the

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middle of the night because Uncle Bob wants, like, you're

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gonna talk to me, and Uncle Bob wants to talk

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to me, so the night before they're like, hey, I'm here,

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and you're like, dude, I'm trying to sleep at three

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o'clock in the morning. Is that something that happens to

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you and do you have a close sign or is

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it not something that really bothers you?

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Speaker 2: That doesn't That's never really been a big problem for me.

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not from like someone's loved one. Random loved one's bothering

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me too, And I feel the energy all the time.

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So there's no I'm closed. I'm open. I'm always open,

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but I'm not afraid of always being open. I don't

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want to close my channel. But I've been through so

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much transformation that I'm always connected to it. I'm always

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aware of it. I'm just in different levels of how

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much Jennifer I feel myself. They're going to give it

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so yeah. So, but those things can happen to people,

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and it may be different than what people are thinking

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of it. It may be just trying to give you

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a lesson in setting a boundary. Maybe that's hard for

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that person, it's hard for a lot of people, and

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so it may happen literally just to give you a

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lesson and learning to send a set a boundary. But also,

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especially newer mediums, are very curious, so they have a

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hard time letting go of a spirit connection, and so

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they carry it with them and they go, oh, that

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Grandpa's followed me from my development circle all the way

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home and it's still talking to me. It's like, because

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you're super curious and you kind of like it, and

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that's okay because Grandpa's not gonna hurt you.

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Speaker 1: But you know me, let me ask you with with

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spirits on the other side, our past loved ones. To

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my understanding, all all lifetimes are happening at the exact

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same time. So the past there is no past. There's

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no future on the other side, which makes our head hurt,

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makes our head hurt.

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Speaker 2: I love it, I love it. I love the Prince sauce.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, like, wait a minute, what's going on here?

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So I always I always like to ask the question

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from your point of view, Uncle Bob, Right, he's wearing

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the Uncle Bob suit and mask and character, so that

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spirit is playing that character. But Uncle Bob at the

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exact same quote unquote time is also in ancient Rome,

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also in ancient Egypt. Also you know, in the highlands

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of Scotland right now, also you know, working with Cleopatra

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or whatever. And then also in the future somewhere else,

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all living at the exact same time, which again hurts

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my head to think about. And if we understand that

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there's a higher self or an over let's say, or

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the higher self, and that higher self or over soul

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is kind of fragments of it are in all of

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these experiences. So a fragment of the over soul is

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Uncle Bob. Then why is Uncle Bob still hanging out?

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If it's like we're getting into the weeds here, So

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why is Uncle Bob hanging out as Uncle Bob when

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he's obviously not in this reality. What's the purpose of

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it other than maybe to help me connect with him

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At a certain point, will Uncle Bob just not be

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around anymore when everyone who knew Uncle Bob is gone?

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And if that's the case, what happens to celebrities who

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people know about for sometimes hundreds if not, like Alexander

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the Great Cleopatra, like are they still hanging around? So

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I'm asking you very deep, hard questions here, So do

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the best you can.

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Speaker 2: I love this stuff, though the weeds, the weeds you

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get my mind, or I love the turning your mind

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into a pretzel thing. So I was given a pretty easy,

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simple answer. And so because people always want to know,

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is my grandma going to get reincarnated and I won't

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be able to talk to her anymore? That's that's people

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get very worried about that. And so the way it

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was shown to me is if you think of a

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chain with a bunch of links on it, right, You're

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one of those links, and all of the other links

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are the other lifetimes. Okay, but you're still your link.

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And so when you move in consciousness into spirit world,

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that essence of you and your link, it does change

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because you lose parts of your personality that were more egoic.

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So to say, I don't like using that word because

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people bash it so much, but it's one that we know.

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And so, but you become more of your full essence.

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You know, you and your higher self are sort of

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like remerged together, but you still are your little link,

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and that link can continue to go on and expand

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and do whatever it wants or chooses to do via

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the soul of it. Right, and now you're also linked

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to other people and their lifetimes, and so now you

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have this big web of links, of interconnected links. But

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energy is not limited. It's limitless, and we're beyond energy

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where consciousness or love or light and even beyond that.

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You can't put it into words. It's the it's the

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can't find a word for what that is. But it's

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continually limitless. So there's no running out of energy for

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souls or to make new lifetimes. It just keeps happening.

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That makes sense. So we could always find uncle Bob,

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and Uncle Bob will come in. Now we can get ancestors.

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They come in. Sometimes they're less evidential. Most people can't

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validate information about them because they don't know them unless

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they've done genealogy and had stories told to them from

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the great grandmother and things like that too. So it's

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less common, but it could happen, and you could you

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00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,920
could connect with, uh, say, a celebrity. Less common, but

477
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,160
it could happen. Right, And so I think uncle Bob

478
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,359
even though he's a we've made him up for now,

479
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,359
but someone's got an uncle Bob. Well, we'll continue on

480
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,160
into spirit world and we won't lose him. We can

481
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,559
still find him. So but why why would he keep

482
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:30,759
hanging around? Because the spirit world and the physical world

483
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:36,599
are not separate, never were. Yeah, they're they're they're integrated

484
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,680
together and constantly communicating with it. So but we look

485
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,799
at it and we think of it like it is separate,

486
00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:44,440
but yet it's right here, all at the same time,

487
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:48,000
happening at once. So I know that cause that guess

488
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,359
little mind BENTI But if the more we can think big,

489
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:57,400
think limitless and expansive, then we can start to wrap

490
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,119
our minds around that just a little bit and and

491
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:02,559
kind of get there. Is that helpful?

492
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really nice. I love I love the idea

493
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,079
of the Lynks. That's a really interesting But now I'm

494
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:11,559
going to complicate things even more.

495
00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go.

496
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:18,319
Speaker 1: Parallel lifetimes happening at the exact same time. So in

497
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,400
another lifetime, you're interviewing me, and you have another show

498
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,359
and I'm and I'm a psychic medium and that show

499
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,839
because who knows and vice, So it's those I understand

500
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,240
are literally almost and not almost, they are endless variations.

501
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,519
So my and Police, I'd love to hear your thoughts

502
00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:40,559
on this. From my understanding is that Alex and Jennifer

503
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,920
are both. These are the characters. Now within these characters,

504
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:50,440
we are going to experience as many infinite lifetimes as

505
00:27:50,519 --> 00:27:55,039
these characters doing different things. So in parallel lifetimes down

506
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:58,400
the road, I might be an absolute tyrant and horrible,

507
00:27:58,519 --> 00:28:01,799
horrible soul person and whatever, and then the other one

508
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:05,240
on Mother Teresa or you know, an ascended master and

509
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:10,160
and everything in between. All so both extremes and experiencing

510
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,119
all and all, but within this character, within the Alex character,

511
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,960
in the Jennifer A character. Is that makes sense to

512
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,440
you from your understanding.

513
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: Of the of the other side, it makes perfect sense

514
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,119
to me because we're talking about infinite awareness and expansion

515
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,319
where anything is possible. We're going beyond beyond. Yeah.

516
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,559
Speaker 1: Right, So then what we just talked about Uncle Bob,

517
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,680
Well then there's infinite versions of Uncle Bob who have

518
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:40,160
interacted with different versions of us in multiple different lifetimes.

519
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:45,079
My head is just starting to burst on so all

520
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,279
of everything I'm saying makes sense to you, right.

521
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but your Uncle Bob still matters to you,

522
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,039
regardless version your your version of Uncle Bob is still

523
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,400
connected to you. It's still there's a bridge of love

524
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:05,759
and it matters. So even when we talk about this

525
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,720
in this very multi dimensional way, like the little Us

526
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,000
still matters too. We're telling a grand story altogether, really

527
00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:17,759
big one.

528
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:22,119
Speaker 1: So in many ways, when you said that, the first

529
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:24,559
thing that popped into my head. I'm a filmmaker, so

530
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:28,200
I'd use movie references all the time. Yeah, I'm assuming

531
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,000
you're familiar with the movie Citizen Kane, that classic film.

532
00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: I have not watched that one.

533
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,839
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have. It's okay, it's a tough watch, but

534
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,279
it's a classic film and it's a very legendary movie.

535
00:29:40,839 --> 00:29:44,359
And it was about basically Hurst. It was like a

536
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,359
clone of you know, William Moyle, Randolph Halsted, the big

537
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,599
tycoon from the early nineteen hundreds, and he had this

538
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,599
huge master, bigger than life, everything, but it all came

539
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,119
down to one thing. And for spoiler alert, if no

540
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:01,200
one's seen the nineteen twenty seventh movie or whatever it is,

541
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,279
at the end of his life he said one word.

542
00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:07,759
It said Rosebud, and the entire movie we're trying to

543
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:10,319
figure out what Rosebud is, and they're investigating it and people

544
00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:12,599
are trying to find out what the hell does that mean.

545
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:16,039
He was such a big, grandiose, bigger than life character,

546
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:18,400
but he said Rosebud. And at the end of the day,

547
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:23,559
it was about his sled. His sled was called Roseblood

548
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:26,440
that his parents gave him. So I'm illustrating what you

549
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:29,119
just said that like all this huge thing, but for

550
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,960
you it's Uncle Bob. For him it was Rosebud. So

551
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,440
something really small is what we cared about as a soul,

552
00:30:34,519 --> 00:30:37,359
and that's what we stay connected to regardless at the

553
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,519
end of our life. It's Rosebud.

554
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 2: In many ways, it's beautiful.

555
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't that beautiful. We'll be right back after a

556
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:52,279
word from our sponsor, and now back to the show.

557
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: It is. It is. It's so beautiful, it's so magical and.

558
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,079
Speaker 1: Yees.

559
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,599
Speaker 2: So even there's other versions of us, like this version

560
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:09,759
is still here, it still has presence, it still matters,

561
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,519
It matters to us. It's love.

562
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,799
Speaker 1: That's what I always tell people in regards to all

563
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,279
of this work into intuition, trans medium shift, channeling, all

564
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,279
of it. I go, look, is it. What are they saying?

565
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,880
What is the message exactly? I don't care how they

566
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,920
do it. They can sing and dance, have a clown

567
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,240
nose on and have you know shoes that squeak. What

568
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,240
is the message that is coming through? And is it

569
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,440
hitting you? It's helpful? How does that make you feel? Yeah,

570
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,599
that's it positive, uplifting? Does it open your heart? Do

571
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,480
you feel the expansive shift in the atmosphere? Right?

572
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:47,759
Speaker 2: That's how you know?

573
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: So, Jennifer, let me ask you, yes, why do you

574
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,400
do this work? Why do you do this work? What

575
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,400
is the driving force behind doing Because it's not easy work.

576
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,279
And even in today's world, which is a lot more

577
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:02,279
acceptable to have these kind of conversations in public and

578
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:04,359
not in the back of the whole books, not in

579
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,279
the back of a cult bookstore, it's still difficult work

580
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:10,319
to do and you still have a lot of barriers

581
00:32:10,359 --> 00:32:14,119
and things like that generally speaking, that psychics and mediums

582
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:16,000
go through. Why do you do the work?

583
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: That's a great question. Well, I do love it. I

584
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,759
love all aspects of it. And it's it's not what

585
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,680
I do though, it's it literally is intertwined with who

586
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,839
I am and what I am like it's it's the

587
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,519
I and the me at the same time. And so

588
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,599
I'm it's like I'm writing a wave and I know

589
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,160
I'm writing it and it's okay, and I like it.

590
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,599
And you know when I connect in you know, a

591
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,960
mediumistic way especially, and I feel so beautiful because the

592
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,920
love is so pure. You know, the angelic rems is

593
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:57,039
as well to it. Just it's hard to explain, but

594
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,359
and it's very fulfilling to know you've helped people and

595
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,279
that you've changed them in some way in a positive way.

596
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,400
You know, to see the look in their eyes when

597
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:10,880
the healings take place, or they brighten up because they've

598
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,799
gotten to make that connection, or you've given them the

599
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,480
proof that they needed to know their person was okay

600
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,079
and not just okay, but that this is real, like

601
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,960
the afterlife is real, and what that does for them

602
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,400
and triggers it ignites something in them as well too,

603
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,319
which is really cool. A lot of people get readings

604
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:33,759
and then you know, fast forward, they decide they want

605
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:36,640
to start development because they want to build their own connection,

606
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,240
and it just goes on and on and on. So

607
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,039
it is very hard work. I work very hard. I've

608
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:45,960
been through lots of transformation, which is very difficult, very

609
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,799
painful to go through. And there there's definitely been hard days.

610
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:54,640
There's always times where mediums want to quit and give up,

611
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,759
but that's usually when you're about to level up. When

612
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:02,440
that happens too, Usually once you've kind of opened that

613
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,880
door and walked in, you don't get to go back.

614
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,279
It just doesn't work that way. You don't have that

615
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:11,079
kind of free will. So it just, you know, it's

616
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,000
like you're working for the divine now, kind of put

617
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,719
it that way.

618
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: A tough bought. So that's a tough boss to quit from.

619
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:26,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly too. So I'm fortunate that, you know,

620
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,119
being in california's pretty open minded here, and so if

621
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,719
I tell a random person what I do, I don't

622
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,960
get a lot of negativity from people. And I'm intuitive,

623
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:39,000
so I can kind of know okay not okay, you know,

624
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:40,079
so that helps me.

625
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:44,159
Speaker 1: You feel it out, you feel it out exactly, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

626
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,639
What has spirit taught you about love that you didn't

627
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,239
know before?

628
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: What a funny question. I say that because you're you're

629
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,320
tuned in right now. So and that's one of the

630
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,440
reasons why you're asking that question is when when I

631
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,320
first started my development. So we're going back like ten years.

632
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,760
I remember I was walking my dogs and I had

633
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,960
just gotten around the corner and I had this thought

634
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,239
come into me, this question come into me, and I

635
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,599
was like, spirit, world, show me more about love, like

636
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,440
I know this and this about love. I knew I

637
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,400
was a loving person and I love my fan, my

638
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,119
friends and so forth. But I'm like, and I got

639
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:29,440
this image of a diamond and all the multifaceted aspects

640
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:32,599
of love or like as diamond, just so many kinds

641
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:36,559
to learn about. And I realize now that it wasn't

642
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:39,320
necessarily the me questioning it as much as it was

643
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,960
the higher self kind of putting that thought into my

644
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,840
awareness of what was about to happen, what we were

645
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,840
going to do. And so I talk about love all

646
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,079
the time, and my friends call me the Queen of Love,

647
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,440
so they just know me that way, you know. And

648
00:35:54,519 --> 00:35:57,760
so it's kind of become my reputation, I guess. And

649
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,159
so the answer would just be so much more and

650
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:09,119
it's endless too. So much of our experiences, Alex that

651
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:14,119
we can't understand, somehow all find their way in this

652
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:19,320
interconnected web of questions of why and who and what

653
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,400
and how they all find their way back to love somehow.

654
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,320
So we can look at things and go, that was

655
00:36:25,119 --> 00:36:27,679
so bad or that was so hard, and I get it,

656
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,960
and I probably would agree with them. But if we

657
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:34,880
start to unravel the story, we see connections that were

658
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,760
made through this tragedy or through this hard time that

659
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,280
we went through, and how love found a way to

660
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,239
show up in all of these little places. Just if

661
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,599
you notice them, you go, oh, it was there the

662
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,119
whole time, and how did it change you? Do you

663
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,800
know more love now? Do you feel more love now?

664
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,280
Do you appreciate more? Do you have more gratitude? Do

665
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,840
you see people on a deeper level and you did before?

666
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:05,679
So there's there's so much more to it. It's it's

667
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:09,440
hard to put into words. But that's kind of been

668
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,239
part of my I guess that was part of my

669
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,800
story that was meant to be told, you know. So

670
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,400
my my astrology chart is all about love to.

671
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: Love I mean, and but.

672
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,559
Speaker 2: But I'm also aware there's so much more and that

673
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:31,440
scares me a little bit. The little me gets a

674
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,599
little scared because I'm like enough lessons.

675
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: Girl, Oh, I know that feeling and I'm like, listen, listen,

676
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:45,039
can you just give me a minute before you throw

677
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:45,559
me back in?

678
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, exit exactly.

679
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, then a question I get

680
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,280
asked all the time. Why do good things happen? Why

681
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,039
do bad things happen to good people? It's a big

682
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:03,559
question that so many and I'm sure that is something

683
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:05,800
in your line of work that people ask, like, I'm

684
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,559
a good person on this and that, why did this happen?

685
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,199
Why did this person die? Why did all of these

686
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,559
kind of things? What answer do you have for them?

687
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:16,199
Speaker 2: I know this question very well, and I've had I've

688
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:19,360
had many, especially in the earlier days, arguments with spirit

689
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,159
world like why did you do that? Why did you

690
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,559
do that? Did you do that? And I would I

691
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:29,360
would even be like, Okay, so somebody passes away in

692
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,639
a remote area and no one ever finds them or

693
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:34,880
knows what happened to them? Right, how do you how

694
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,360
do you explain that? Right? And the answer I get is, well,

695
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,039
you're thinking about them right now, you're caring about them

696
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:46,519
right now, you're questioning about them right now. Well look

697
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:49,760
what you know, you're loving them right now by even

698
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,800
asking the question.

699
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: Okay, YadA, YadA YadA, fight it was they were right.

700
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: You know they were right too. I don't have all

701
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,719
the answers. There are things that I see happening. They're very,

702
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,920
very troublesome to me. And that's not wrong because in

703
00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:17,639
the feeling of the troublesome in the in the that's

704
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:22,320
that's really violent. What's happening over there, that's really concerning.

705
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,199
What's happening in that is a desire to improve it,

706
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:30,400
to make it better in some way. So even in

707
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,079
the even in the questioning, even in the disagreeing, it

708
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:38,000
shows that your heart is saying, can't we do better?

709
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:41,960
And so that's why I say we can accept that

710
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,519
there is a mystery. We live in a realm of duality.

711
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:47,880
We don't have all the answers. We can accept that

712
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,320
we learn a lot from our experiences, even the ones

713
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,559
that us suffering and suffering has a place. It does

714
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:59,840
teach us things. And why why, source, Creator, God designed

715
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,280
it this way? I don't know that. But you know,

716
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,719
through the pressure, you know, through the suffering, you come

717
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,400
out different, You come out or ever changed and transformed,

718
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:15,480
and usually have greater awareness as well too. And so

719
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:18,519
there can be gifts in the suffering, and sometimes the

720
00:40:18,639 --> 00:40:21,960
lesson in it is can you find the gift in it?

721
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:26,559
Can you find love where its seemingly absent? You know?

722
00:40:26,639 --> 00:40:29,599
Can you find grace in a place that looks very

723
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,599
unholy and evil? Even? You know that takes a lot

724
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:38,559
of pulling out of your own soul and tuning into

725
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:45,800
the power that exists of the divine too, And you

726
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,599
can say we can do better. Because we can do

727
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:58,320
better drives evolution, it drives ascension. It's saying the frequency

728
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,280
of oneness, I can touch it, I can taste it,

729
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,519
I can feel that, I can sense it, and we

730
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:10,079
can move closer to that. We can do better. So

731
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:12,760
it's okay to want to change it. It's okay to

732
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,360
want improvement, okay to have an opinion about it.

733
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:20,039
Speaker 1: I'm noticing that when you're speaking a lot of times

734
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:22,280
you're looking up into the left or up into the right.

735
00:41:22,599 --> 00:41:24,920
You are you connecting with spirit as you're doing that,

736
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,559
and they're kind of telling you what to say and

737
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:28,440
then yeah, or are suggesting.

738
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,679
Speaker 2: So it's not that they're suggesting, it just flows through me.

739
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,639
So yeah, So when I do that a lot that

740
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:39,519
that's letting you know that I'm being inspired i'm channeling it. Yeah,

741
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960
channel it just happens. I'm not like, oh, I'm going

742
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,440
to start channeling for Alex. It's just it just happens.

743
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,199
Speaker 1: So when you go into so when you go into

744
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:51,880
a channeling state, you're constantly like turned off, Like I

745
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,599
know a lot of channels like that. They're just like

746
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,199
hold on yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, oh yeah, yea yeah,

747
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,119
and they like their spirit guides or whoever they're channeling,

748
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,119
just starts. You ask a question and they wait for

749
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:04,280
a second. This is what and they do They they

750
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,199
look up to the left, they look up to the right.

751
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,679
It's really interesting. Yeah, but they tell me they're always

752
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:13,320
connected as opposed to other channels I know who like

753
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:15,880
and I got to I have to get into and

754
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,519
yeah and then there and then someone comes through. So

755
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,960
you're the one that's always always connected.

756
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:25,079
Speaker 2: So yeah, I wasn't asking for it. It just happens for me.

757
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,920
That's that's how it is for me. Now when I'm

758
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,719
working mediumistically, I may I may say wait a minute,

759
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,760
let me, you know, let me lock in what I'm looking,

760
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:35,440
let me see what I can get for you to

761
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,840
see if they'll answer that question. And if I'm working

762
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,679
in a deeper trance then I'm and I'm really just

763
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,760
going out. My eyes are going to be closed, and

764
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,519
I'm I'm trying to move my awareness way out, way

765
00:42:46,559 --> 00:42:50,719
into the back so that another awareness can come in

766
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,400
and kind of merge with my essence too. But it all,

767
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,679
it's all good. It's just different ways of doing the

768
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,559
same thing. I just don't put like ones better than

769
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:05,800
the other, you know, It's just it's all different ways

770
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,199
of working.

771
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is the one you prefer?

772
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: I don't really have a preference, so, but I'm very

773
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,039
used to doing working this way. So I love talking

774
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:18,159
about these things. But I am aware that, like the

775
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,159
what's coming through me that I am connected at the

776
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:24,519
same time. And so before we even got on this,

777
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:26,559
I was I was just sitting for a few minutes,

778
00:43:26,599 --> 00:43:28,280
and I was like, there's a lot of spirit in

779
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,000
the room. So I knew. I knew, like, Okay, it's

780
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,119
gonna be fine. I'm not alone.

781
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: So why do you So, why do you think there

782
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,719
was a lot of spirit in the room. Is that

783
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,440
spirits that because you were speaking to me, or is

784
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,480
because of this the show, or because if they're just

785
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:46,320
there for you. I'm just curious.

786
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I wanted to just take a few minutes

787
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,119
just to kind of get into a stillness a little bit,

788
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,599
because you know, you're you're getting ready, you're doing this,

789
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,400
taking care of your dogs, all this kind of stuff, right,

790
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,519
and it want to be in a few minutes, and

791
00:43:56,599 --> 00:44:00,280
so in that few minutes of stillness, then you're you

792
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,039
don't have any distractions, right, So then I'm very aware, like, oh,

793
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:12,559
there's the energy in my space right now? Is palpably full?

794
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,519
I'll say it's very full. Now. There's always energy in

795
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:22,000
this space, but it's extra full, so which makes me happy.

796
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: Good. So did uncle Bob? Did Uncle Bob show up

797
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,719
last night and say, hey, I got I got a

798
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,519
message for Alex.

799
00:44:28,199 --> 00:44:29,639
Speaker 2: No, there is no uncle Bob.

800
00:44:30,079 --> 00:44:33,159
Speaker 1: Sorry, there is no uncle Bob. So there's.

801
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,559
Speaker 2: Somebody said an uncle Bob somewhere. There's probably many of them.

802
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:42,599
Speaker 1: There's a few Uncle Bob's in the world. I'm sure.

803
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,199
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

804
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:48,599
Speaker 1: Now in the time that you've been doing this work,

805
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,039
you know you kind of kid you joked a little

806
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,480
bit about like, yeah, it's a lot more acceptable now

807
00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:55,840
to have these conversations. I'm sure when you started it

808
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,920
wasn't as easy. Again, if you were in California that

809
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,880
whole time, you probably will the place. But we'll be

810
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:10,159
right back after a word from our sponsor. And now

811
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,440
back to the show. Even here in Austin, you know,

812
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,440
in Austin's also where all the weirdos hang out, so

813
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:19,679
and artists and stuff, So everyone's a little bit more

814
00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:25,840
accepting here than the rest of the state. But I've realized,

815
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,800
just in the short time I've been doing this work

816
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:33,599
about five years now, how much people are awakening and

817
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:35,960
a lot of the concepts and topics that we're talking

818
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,679
about are becoming mainstream where the term channeling is now

819
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:45,119
in the lexicon. People are like always using the word channeling. Intuitive.

820
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,320
People are fascinated with mediums and ghost hunters and all

821
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,719
that kind of stuff that happens. But all that was

822
00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:57,840
it started it basically in the late eighties, I would say,

823
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,960
and in the nineties where a lot of this stuff,

824
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,159
the Sylvia Browns, the John Edwards, those people kind of

825
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,000
popularized ands and James Van Prague and these kind of

826
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:11,039
people popularized it. Why do you think so many souls

827
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:16,440
are awakening now versus the last thousand years that we've

828
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,360
been hanging around the planet. You know, in the Middle Ages,

829
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,199
nobody was going you know, love it was the general

830
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,039
leader who were not doing that back then.

831
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's very interesting because there was this explosion

832
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,639
in mediumship in the mid mid eighteen hundreds for about

833
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,480
for about one hundred years, and that was because of

834
00:46:36,519 --> 00:46:39,280
World War One and World War Two, and it started

835
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,960
out to be more physical mediumship, so people were going

836
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,639
to seances and playing with scareboards and things like that

837
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,199
before movies came around and made it all scary and

838
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,239
all of that. It's just not it's just not scary.

839
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,480
It's just But then when the war happened, then there

840
00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,280
was a shift into mental mediumship and then that became

841
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,840
the main focus because the need was to communicate loved ones.

842
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,679
So those mediums were working twenty four or seven. I

843
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:05,519
don't know how they did it under a lot of scrutiny,

844
00:47:05,639 --> 00:47:10,599
you know, especially over in Europe too. You know, there

845
00:47:10,679 --> 00:47:14,119
was one medium that was even put in jail under

846
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:16,960
the Witchcraft Act, which I think has changed now, right,

847
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,639
Like that actually happened, and then there was this quieting

848
00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:22,960
period fifty sixty seventies, and then the New Age movement

849
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:26,400
kind of came up and so then this sort of

850
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,840
explosion of mediums that's happened in the last like ten

851
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,760
to twenty years, it's pretty fascinating too, but it definitely

852
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,559
is pointing to this like acceleration, this sort of like

853
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,320
bigger awakening that's happening, people coming more online. It's a

854
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,119
good thing. And we see there is a lot of

855
00:47:48,159 --> 00:47:52,559
conflict right now too. So I do believe, especially if

856
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,840
you look at things astrologically, it kind of matches up

857
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,320
to where we are. You know, the age of Aquarius.

858
00:47:58,679 --> 00:48:01,920
Now we've got this Uranus Gemini for seven years. I'm

859
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,760
not in astrologer, but I have of astrology reference. And

860
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:11,400
so things are just getting very fast, very electric, very

861
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,599
full speed ahead, very in tune and online. And so

862
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,599
with this sort of ascension process that we're having, there

863
00:48:18,679 --> 00:48:24,719
is a need for a lot of souls to be

864
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,639
able to amplify the energy. So if the goal is

865
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:30,719
now to lift us out of this density at least

866
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,559
not as dense as we were, into a higher frequency

867
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:39,400
where it's we're not seeing quite as much of the

868
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:44,199
destruction and the darkness so to speak that we are now,

869
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,199
then there is a need for people to be able

870
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,199
to hold the power, amplify the light as I've been

871
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,679
understanding it too. So that means the mediums, the healers,

872
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,000
the twin flames, the even athletes because they can hold

873
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:01,920
a lot of energy and power, so they may be

874
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:05,639
there unconsciously being part of this process too, and it's

875
00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:09,039
like they're amplifying the light or amplifying the grid, the

876
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:12,199
earth grid, so to speak. And this is all energetic

877
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,320
and metaphysical and fun stuff too, but that's helping the

878
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:22,159
process as well too. But it's it's fun, it's fascinating,

879
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:26,559
it's beautiful. I really want to see positive change. I

880
00:49:26,599 --> 00:49:29,400
really want to see it. My heart hurts to see

881
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,480
things that are happening in the world, and I understand that,

882
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:37,440
you know, there are reasons beyond our comprehension. I really

883
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:39,079
want to see it in my lifetime. I want to

884
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:40,760
see great expansion.

885
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, so with I mean, obviously I don't know

886
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,280
if you've done this or not, but have you tuned in,

887
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:52,519
even just for yourself out of curiosity of like, what's

888
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:54,639
going to happen at the end of the year, Well,

889
00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:57,639
what's going to happen in the next two to three years?

890
00:49:58,119 --> 00:49:59,960
You know, I've heard of a certain date that will

891
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,000
a lot of things will shift. I hear that. My

892
00:50:02,119 --> 00:50:04,920
personal understanding is that we're going through it just seems

893
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,119
like since I mean since twenty twelve, things have been

894
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,199
slowly building up. Yeah, but man, the second hit twenty twenty,

895
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,239
all hell broke lose, and every year it's been more

896
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,519
insane and more insane and more insane as we keep

897
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,079
I don't know where we're going, but we're going into

898
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:25,039
this place that I hear that there's going to be

899
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:27,880
a turning point where like, Okay, now we've gotten to

900
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,679
a point where we can't take this anymore. We have

901
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,320
to go the other way. What's your understanding of where

902
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:32,800
we're going?

903
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,519
Speaker 2: Twenty thirty seems to be a big deal. A lot

904
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:37,679
of people are talking about twenty thirty, so, which is,

905
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,480
you know, just like three and a half more years away,

906
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,119
and we really do, but we're already seeing a big

907
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:49,360
breakdown in things in systems, and a lot of people

908
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,639
are waking up and seeing the world very differently than

909
00:50:51,679 --> 00:50:54,719
they did before, which is causing I would say a

910
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,280
second existential crisis like we had during COVID that was

911
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,679
a big existential crisis level and now we're having it

912
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,599
again because people didn't know it was that bad. They did,

913
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,440
they thought they were crazy people things like that. They

914
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,000
didn't know that. I didn't even to be honest with you.

915
00:51:13,039 --> 00:51:15,320
But what I have, so I'm going to give you

916
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,559
the positive, the positive news. What I've gotten is that

917
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:21,840
once this, you know, what we might call the dark

918
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:32,119
Ages are have had their time. What follows the dark

919
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:37,199
Ages a renaissance. So we're moving into a renaissance. What

920
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,159
does that look like? I'm getting chills all over. And

921
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:43,280
so we remember we're in the age of Aquarius. Are music, dance,

922
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:49,119
beauty creation. So you destroy a tower, you build it

923
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,639
up bigger, better, more beautiful too. And so I think

924
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,360
that's one thing that people can focus on is definitely

925
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,760
keep an eye on what's happening, because if we don't

926
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,760
look at the destruction and we ignore it, it doesn't

927
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,159
get a chance to transform. You have to look at it.

928
00:52:08,199 --> 00:52:10,280
You have to put illumination and light onto it and

929
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,360
be aware of it. And that's hard to do. We

930
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,039
don't want to look at bad, scary things, right, So

931
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:17,960
we have to do that, but also hold the light

932
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,239
of the future, which is we're moving into a beautiful

933
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,239
new expansive state of creation, right, And so I think

934
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,039
anything that people can do that is creative is going

935
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:36,639
to be really positive too. So use it cooking, basket weaving,

936
00:52:36,679 --> 00:52:39,360
I don't care what it is. If it's creative, that's

937
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,679
you're putting your moving into the future. You're you're feeding

938
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,760
a positive flow future of the renaissance too. And then

939
00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:51,760
keep working on yourself because you change the world when

940
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,920
you change yourself. So when you when you integrate with

941
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,159
your soul or higher self, whatever you want to call it,

942
00:52:57,199 --> 00:53:01,519
and do that that inner work, and you know, heal

943
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:05,400
your patterns, integrate your parts, let go of trauma, those

944
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,039
kinds of things like that, you make a big impact

945
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,119
in the whole because it's it's like the butterfly effect too.

946
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,880
And you amplify your own power, you amplify your own light,

947
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,880
so you have more to give, more love to give,

948
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,400
more life to give too. So that's really important and

949
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,519
that's more doable. You look at the world and go, I.

950
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: Can't what, So where do I start? Where do I start?

951
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 2: You start with you? You start with you. Every day

952
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,199
do a little something that helps you to grow and mature.

953
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,239
And some people they don't want to do that scary.

954
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,000
It's scary to look inside. But we have to. We

955
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:43,760
all have to, we all have to do our part.

956
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:46,159
Makes a big difference, it really does.

957
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: Would you do you believe that a lot of the

958
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,360
turmoil and chaos that is happening in the world is

959
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,280
because people are not willing to look themselves in the

960
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,639
mirror and do the work themselves. And I'm talking about

961
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:04,199
all leaders around the world, companies, religion, medical, politics, all

962
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,719
of them have not really sat with themselves and exactly

963
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,159
the tough questions. Do you agree?

964
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So from a kind of a union psychological perspective,

965
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,000
it's definitely like a reflection. You know, the outside is

966
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:20,360
kind of a reflection of the inside too, of this

967
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,079
you know, fragmented psyche, right, and it has to become

968
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,639
whole again, right, And so then what people are doing

969
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:31,480
instead of behaving from a space of wholeness, which is

970
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,079
their true self, which which is light, which is love,

971
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:40,119
then there's all of these sort of protective mechanisms that

972
00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:44,719
come out and then cause destruction and manipulation and things

973
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,239
like that too. You see it in relationships, you see

974
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,599
it in people's self talk, and you see it on

975
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:53,800
a global level as well. So from that, from a

976
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,159
psychological perspective, I see a lot of children and adult

977
00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:03,719
bodies with way too much power because because everything they're doing,

978
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,599
you know, they've got power, they've got knowledge or intellect perhaps,

979
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,239
but the way that they're using it is because they're

980
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:17,360
not an integrated being or they would not behave that way.

981
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:21,880
It's there's the playground where everybody's acting like children and

982
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,440
they're unconscious of their behaviors to a certain extent, and

983
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,880
then there's this other place where people know who they

984
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:33,320
are and they behave accordingly with more love and compassion

985
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,000
and understanding of themselves and others.

986
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: And so.

987
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:42,599
Speaker 2: The more we get in this space, the more people

988
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:44,920
come over here that start to take over, you get

989
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,400
kind of a critical mass. So yeah, when it's very concerning,

990
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,440
when you've got children and adult bodies running the show,

991
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,480
that's a little bit scary to.

992
00:55:55,599 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: Round the world, So around the world everywhere.

993
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,079
Speaker 2: That is why, Yeah, that's why what we can do

994
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:05,400
for ourselves does make a difference. And that's the most

995
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,960
amount of freedom and autonomy and sovereignty you're going to

996
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:10,320
feel is from the inner work. It's not from forcing

997
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,679
other people to do it how you want. Them to

998
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:16,400
do it. It's just and you know, having the courage

999
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,320
to look inside, deal with yourself, grow yourself, mature yourself,

1000
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,360
and then your reality around you will start to change.

1001
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,760
But you're giving a gift to humanity as well.

1002
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: As a collective. Are we basically marrying the macro journey

1003
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,920
of humanity's consciousness is a mirror of the individual's journey.

1004
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:46,480
Because I don't know about you, but things have to

1005
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,840
be really bad in the life, especially early on in life,

1006
00:56:50,199 --> 00:56:52,440
that things get so bad that you are forced to

1007
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,360
leave the job. You're forced to release the work because

1008
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,679
you becomes so unbearable that you're like, I have to

1009
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,239
do something because I didn't listen to the forty five

1010
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,199
other times that they were trying to whisper, Hey man, move, move,

1011
00:57:03,519 --> 00:57:06,679
get out, get out, okay, all right? Then boom and

1012
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,119
it just keeps using. Is that what's happening to humanity

1013
00:57:09,199 --> 00:57:10,519
right now as well? We're going through that.

1014
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's just sometimes that's what it

1015
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,360
takes so much pressure before you finally have this awareness

1016
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,880
that go, well, I haven't been able to change any

1017
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,119
of this stuff around me, or it keeps repeating over

1018
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:26,320
and over and over again, I'm seeing these patterns and

1019
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,119
then you realize the only thing you can do is

1020
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:30,400
change yourself, and that just you have to come and

1021
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:33,559
come to grips with that reality. But you can definitely

1022
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:37,000
see a reflection of that too in sort of the

1023
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,159
like you said, the macro and the micro too.

1024
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: And so.

1025
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:43,519
Speaker 2: I still have hope. I have a lot of hope.

1026
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,400
I really do. I think we can do something really

1027
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,199
good as a collective.

1028
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: You know what I've been seeing too. And I'm noticing

1029
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,679
this shift in awareness in multiple industries. But one that

1030
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,039
I I'm very passionate about his food, especially here in

1031
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:06,639
the West. Yeah, it's it's atrocious what they do with

1032
00:58:06,719 --> 00:58:08,599
our food system. It's absolutely chocious.

1033
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1034
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: But what I'm noticing now is products coming out that

1035
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:20,000
say in the label three ingredients, four ingredients. They're literally

1036
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:22,480
promoting like, we have no more crap in our stuff.

1037
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:26,119
We have no red forty or BE five or this

1038
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:28,920
this thing that is known to cause cancer twenty years

1039
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,480
down the line. People are starting to be aware of that,

1040
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:37,480
and the industry is shifting because they're like, oh, oh oh, row,

1041
00:58:37,559 --> 00:58:40,280
the party's over. We gotta we gotta shift. But I'm

1042
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,000
noticing have you noticed that as well, not only in food,

1043
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,400
but in other religion and medical field and Hollywood, for

1044
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,159
God's sake, what's going on there?

1045
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a fun question because I'm really into that,

1046
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,280
you know. I'm into like nutrition and things like that too,

1047
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,360
and I truly believe that we have to take care

1048
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,880
of our physical So I know, sometimes in the spiritual

1049
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,480
land people look at their body like it's impeding where

1050
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:10,760
they want to be or who they want to be,

1051
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,119
Like I just want to go home. I don't want

1052
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:14,480
to be in this suit kind of thing too. And

1053
00:59:14,519 --> 00:59:16,960
it's like, but your body is conscious as long as

1054
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,239
you're attached to it, right. Your cells are very intelligent,

1055
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:25,039
like little computer systems, right, And so if we're not

1056
00:59:25,159 --> 00:59:27,599
taking care of it, we're going to have a really

1057
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:33,639
hard time being happy because your hormones and your nutrients

1058
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:35,920
and all of that affect your mood. They affect your

1059
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,000
brain and things like that too, and so it is

1060
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:43,159
very concerning. Now, you know, California can be more health conscious,

1061
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:45,920
especially along the coast, So that makes me very happy.

1062
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:48,880
So there's more availability of healthy food. I go to

1063
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,679
into grocery store and I'm just like, oh my god.

1064
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:54,480
Sometimes when I look at the boxes and the bottles

1065
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,719
and the bags, because I know there's nothing good in

1066
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,760
it for anybody in there, and there's a lot of

1067
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,599
it still, and I'm just like, but I'm like, I'm

1068
01:00:02,599 --> 01:00:06,360
in the vitamins and peptides and biohacking and all of

1069
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,679
this stuff. But I'm happy that there is a container

1070
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,320
of that now that's being explored by people that there's

1071
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:18,079
other ways of living a better life. But living a

1072
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:21,039
better life also includes loving yourself enough to try to

1073
01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:23,960
take better care of your health the best that you can.

1074
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,679
But your mood is going to be really affected by

1075
01:00:26,719 --> 01:00:31,039
what you're eating, what you're taking, how well you're sleeping,

1076
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:34,719
how well you're managing stress. That matters to its very mind,

1077
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,920
body spirit approach to But you're right, there's so much

1078
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,440
change in awareness. That's a good thing.

1079
01:00:43,159 --> 01:00:45,639
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1080
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:53,440
and now back to the show. It is a good thing.

1081
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,480
There is much more awareness about things and things that

1082
01:00:56,519 --> 01:00:59,559
we might have not been aware of before. We're being

1083
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:02,519
forced to be aware of them. Whether it be political,

1084
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:05,239
whether it be medical, whether it be our food system,

1085
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,360
whether it be our religions. Even a lot of cracks

1086
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,079
have been popping up over the last twenty or thirty

1087
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:15,760
years in organized religions as well. Where do you see

1088
01:01:16,639 --> 01:01:19,239
all of these systems that are I mean you mentioned

1089
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,159
ear these systems are crashing down and we're literally watching them.

1090
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:26,000
We're seeing companies go down, We're seeing you know, industries

1091
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:30,079
shift dramatically. Where do you see all of this going?

1092
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:31,559
And how much longer do we got to be on

1093
01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:32,280
this roller coaster?

1094
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:40,559
Speaker 2: That's a good question, you know. Again, I really do

1095
01:01:40,639 --> 01:01:42,800
feel like we will move into a renaissance. It's just

1096
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,719
there's sort of a question mark of how long it's

1097
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,119
going to take. And that might be and that might

1098
01:01:48,159 --> 01:01:50,960
be up to us too, But right now, like things

1099
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,800
are moving pretty quickly. I don't know if people can

1100
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,920
handle it much faster energy than we're already experiencing. To

1101
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,599
a certain extent, life is always going to ups and

1102
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:03,679
downs and crazy twisted turns and and when's it going

1103
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:07,239
to end? And I'm like, it doesn't always that life

1104
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,800
is just that way. You want to You want to

1105
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,079
get to this point where it's like all peace and

1106
01:02:11,159 --> 01:02:14,599
calm all the time. You might get bored with you.

1107
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,960
We came here to tell stories and create and have

1108
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,280
all of these these this diversity and contrast if you

1109
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,639
want to say too, but I do believe that things

1110
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,599
you you can't actually have more more freedom to manifest

1111
01:02:29,639 --> 01:02:31,800
in your life if you've done a lot of inner work,

1112
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,519
and that's where the magic really will really start to happen.

1113
01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:38,880
So it's about living. It's about truly living, not just existing,

1114
01:02:39,079 --> 01:02:43,400
but living fully and consciously with effort, trying to make

1115
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,760
this time that you have here the best it can be.

1116
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:48,239
It's a lot of work because it's you have to

1117
01:02:48,239 --> 01:02:49,639
take care of your mind, you have to take care

1118
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:51,400
of your body, and you have to be a tay

1119
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,519
tense in your soul your spirit to so so it's

1120
01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:58,440
a lot of work too, but it is worth doing.

1121
01:02:58,519 --> 01:03:00,519
If if you're like I, really you just want to

1122
01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:05,320
be happy, Well, here you go Step one. Where are

1123
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,360
you going to? Where you're going to start? You know?

1124
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,559
Speaker 1: If so, let me ask you, if someone is feeling

1125
01:03:11,639 --> 01:03:17,000
disconnected from spirit for whatever reason, what advice do you

1126
01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:20,119
have for them where they should where should they begin

1127
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:22,960
to start to try to connect the spirit again and

1128
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,800
that spirit like to you, even their own spirit, like

1129
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,559
just spirit in general.

1130
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,239
Speaker 2: The first answer is we're always connected to spirit. It's

1131
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,840
just some people can't perceive it, they can't feel it

1132
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,840
and experience it for themselves. But the disconnection in itself

1133
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,199
is an illusion. So that's that's the sort of the

1134
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:45,760
metaphysical answer. So even when somebody has been uh, you know,

1135
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,840
had in a spiritual awakening, but now they're in the

1136
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,280
dark night of the soul, you know, they're having a

1137
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:56,599
psychic experience of extreme loneliness and disconnection, including from spirit,

1138
01:03:56,679 --> 01:04:00,760
including from God, like they feel totally isolated, but that's

1139
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,159
not what's really happening is allusion, right, And then once

1140
01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:08,000
you and then once you're done with that psychic experience,

1141
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,440
you move into complete connection where you know, like I said,

1142
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,639
little flower pedals the most beautiful thing you ever saw,

1143
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:16,760
and you feel just you know, so we were experiencing

1144
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:21,880
different ends of the spectrum of connection and disconnection in

1145
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,719
our human spiritual reality. Now, to answer your question, what

1146
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,760
can somebody do? Start by taking five minutes to sit

1147
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:38,360
quietly and just sort of notice your thoughts, notice the energy,

1148
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,079
notice the space, just to kind of find out where

1149
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:42,760
your awareness is. Are you in the future, are you

1150
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,480
in the past, And that's not wrong, it's just where

1151
01:04:45,519 --> 01:04:48,119
are you with it, no wrong or right? Where are you?

1152
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,400
When are you? And then just kind of bring it

1153
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,639
back into the now. Sometimes even just finding a focal

1154
01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:57,320
point in your body, like I might try to put

1155
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,199
all my awareness into this space in my heart art

1156
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:04,880
and to where I'm not actually having thinking happening. Right.

1157
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:06,880
You might only be able to do it for five seconds,

1158
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,880
but that's the start. So then you started to be

1159
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,639
able to uh slowly become aware of the thoughts. Right,

1160
01:05:15,679 --> 01:05:17,559
So you have to kind of practice with your mind

1161
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:20,559
a little bit. We a lot of a psychics and

1162
01:05:20,599 --> 01:05:23,079
meetings sit in the power. So we learned to kind

1163
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:25,719
of find a focal point of light, we expand it

1164
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,119
really big and bright. That opens up our awareness so

1165
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:31,400
that is easy for stpeer to kind of touch the

1166
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:34,960
energy or touch the power, and we are more receptive

1167
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,440
to it. So I highly recommend people learn how to

1168
01:05:38,639 --> 01:05:40,239
sit in the power and just imagine you've got this

1169
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,320
little inner light and it gets bigger and bigger, bigger

1170
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,960
to your you know, spilling up the room, even blending

1171
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,960
into the natural world outside and just become this big

1172
01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:52,719
light you know that you're immersed in too. And start

1173
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:56,400
with five minutes. Do it consistently. It works really really well.

1174
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,880
Go out and go out in nature through the birds,

1175
01:06:01,519 --> 01:06:05,199
you know, see the colors, feel the wind on your face.

1176
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:09,760
They're simple, easy things to do, but they actually do

1177
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,599
work really well.

1178
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Speaker 1: If someone listening has just lost somebody and they are

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afraid of oh god, what happened to Uncle Bob, what

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happened to Grandma May? And I, what would you say

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to them? I'm sure you've had that conversation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I would explain to them if you know,

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if obviously, if I'm a medium, if I'm working mediumistically,

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you know, and I could connect with our loved one

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and give them some evidence of who they were so

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that they were recognizing them and then be able to

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give like a healing message. That would work really well too.

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But I would explain to them, you know from from

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my lens that life is continuous. It's just a different,

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different experience. So it's a it's a less physical or

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01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,800
non physical experience. Uncle Bob just isn't in this body anymore.

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Uncle Bob is everywhere and with you all the time.

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You never lose that connection. It doesn't go away. It's

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you know, but he's everywhere. That's the truth.

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Speaker 1: Too, right, he is everywhere and he is nowhere. Yeah,

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it's all but yet none. It's like, yeah, it's very brutally,

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very bruce ly, very bruce ly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, it's one eleven right now as we as

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we say that too. But when you hold on to

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the love like that love that that person has, you know,

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that's the bridge. So just never never lose the love,

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never lose the connection. But like I said, the link

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in the chain continues. The link doesn't just recycle into

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01:07:55,239 --> 01:07:57,920
a new link. It continues, and then the links just

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01:07:58,039 --> 01:08:00,599
keep growing and growing. The chain just gets bigger and

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01:08:00,639 --> 01:08:05,559
bigger and bigger. It's expansion, it's infinite, it's endless, it's unlimited.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned one eleven, which I understand as angel numbers.

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Other people call it like a linementer, other things like that.

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It happens to me every day, four to five times

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a day. I don't look for the numbers. I get one, one, one, two, two, two, three, three, three, four, four, four,

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five f five. I get all of these numbers and

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the weirdest, weirdest places. And it's been happening.

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Speaker 2: More and more lately.

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Speaker 1: What is that Your understanding of what that is and

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,479
what is spirit trying to tell me. I know each

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number has a specific energy or specific tag, but just

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curious from your point of view, if you could tell

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01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:47,399
me what I'm why is it happened to me? And

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then obviously that will help other people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly too. And I think you know, the

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numbers were more focused on like how a numerologist would

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,800
describe them. That was that's how it's mostly been, and

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01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,840
then it kind of the angel numbers came around sort

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,439
of later later in the story too, but it does

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01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,279
make it fun too, So I think there were some

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01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:14,079
practitioners that kind of maybe changed it to angel numbers,

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But it doesn't really matter. All that matters is that

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you're noticing the synchronicity. My awareness said, look at the clock.

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I looked at it on eleven while we were talking

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,119
about that. So while we were having that conversation, that

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01:09:27,199 --> 01:09:31,600
gives us some validation of what we're speaking of, that

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the number showed up. I agree with you. Less important

1233
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,880
than what it means is that it happened, right, And

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01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,359
so that means you're aware of synchronicity. You're aware that

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there's more than the physical realm, and you're now part

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01:09:46,199 --> 01:09:49,680
of it. And it's being you're being reminded of it consistently,

1237
01:09:50,239 --> 01:09:52,279
and that's magical too. So it's like I was like

1238
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:56,600
to say, the sign itself is a little miracle. What

1239
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:01,479
it means great, but or who gave it to you? Great?

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01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:03,800
But the fact that it happened, I just don't want

1241
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,399
to forget that part, because we forget that it happened,

1242
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,279
you know, we don't pay attention to the fact that

1243
01:10:08,279 --> 01:10:10,520
it happened. And then we go, what does it mean?

1244
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,880
What does it mean? We wait, it just happened. Though

1245
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,159
it happened. Like, let's let's keep that little spark first

1246
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:17,920
and then won't worry about that. Now, let's say you're

1247
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,760
thinking about Uncle Bob and then you notice the clock

1248
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,920
is his birthday. There's a good chance that was Uncle

1249
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,479
Bob that was making that happen.

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01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,239
Speaker 1: Is busy boys, Yeah, I.

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01:10:30,279 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 2: Know, all right, we love this Uncle Bob. Now let's

1252
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,920
say you're let's say you're in you're having a hard

1253
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,439
day or something like that, and then you notice some

1254
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,359
a license plate that says, you know, love or something

1255
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,439
like that, or you notice the numbers. It's it's kind

1256
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,960
of like we're here, You're okay, Like we're here you're

1257
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,199
not alone. You know everything is going to be okay.

1258
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,399
So that's really nice as well too when those things happen,

1259
01:10:56,079 --> 01:10:56,319
is it?

1260
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,399
Speaker 1: Is it similar when you're in a car and you're

1261
01:10:58,399 --> 01:11:01,479
thinking about something in a song lyric shows up and yeah,

1262
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,880
like that's happened to me. Like I've been in a question,

1263
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,560
A question, A question. I get in there like everything's

1264
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,399
gonna be all right. I'm like, son of us, I know, Yeah,

1265
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:12,279
isn't that crazy?

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01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? And it can be spareworld, But I can also

1267
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,439
going to be your own higher self and doing that

1268
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,119
for you too. I don't I don't like to take

1269
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:20,439
away the power of our own higher self, like that's

1270
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,119
your first guide, your ultimate guide is your higher self

1271
01:11:23,319 --> 01:11:27,720
or the big G up there right. Two. But here's

1272
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,039
what's fun is now, Let's see, Let's say you're on

1273
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:32,880
the car and you see that you're in your car

1274
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,079
and you see that license plate. Right at that time,

1275
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,840
everything had to go right in your day synchronized to

1276
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,279
get you to that synchronicity. Right, I was just having

1277
01:11:44,279 --> 01:11:46,840
a conversation yesterday. It was is so super cool. So

1278
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,800
that means you could I find your keys or you

1279
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,239
forgot something you had to go back in. You know,

1280
01:11:52,279 --> 01:11:55,840
you stub your toe, you're like, ah or whatever happened, right,

1281
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,600
but you ended up in the car at the right

1282
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,920
in the right place, at the right time. So that

1283
01:12:02,039 --> 01:12:05,159
lets you know you're part of something really big and magical. Now,

1284
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:07,039
on top of that, the other car that had that

1285
01:12:07,119 --> 01:12:11,279
license plate, that person's day had to be perfectly synchronized

1286
01:12:11,319 --> 01:12:13,439
to get on the road at that time. For you,

1287
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,359
that's big right now. All the other cars they couldn't

1288
01:12:18,399 --> 01:12:20,800
get in the way either, So like that had that

1289
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,039
had to pay attention to. So think about how much

1290
01:12:24,199 --> 01:12:30,680
intelligence it takes to make that happen for that one event,

1291
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,039
all for you.

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01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 1: It's just that one little thing, for that one person.

1293
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,399
There's eight two billion people on the planet all for you.

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Speaker 2: That's love.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful. To Jennifer, Where can people find out more

1296
01:12:46,199 --> 01:12:47,640
about you and the amazing work you're doing.

1297
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,199
Speaker 2: My website is medium Jennifer Rose dot com and I'm

1298
01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:55,279
over on Facebook and Instagram and YouTube as well, so

1299
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you can find me there.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, and do you have any final messages for the audience?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. The one thing that I did feel like

1302
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,479
wanted to be spoken of a little bit too is

1303
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,279
that there is a there's a second awakening. So for

1304
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:14,720
people who've already been on this road for a while too,

1305
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,680
it's so wonderful to get connected to these other realms

1306
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,920
in the other and different forms of spirit and things

1307
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,239
like that, and to the point where we want to

1308
01:13:25,239 --> 01:13:29,319
stay there all the time, you know. And and because

1309
01:13:29,399 --> 01:13:32,840
human life just seems so boring and meaningless or something

1310
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,159
too or maybe even hard, but that can be a

1311
01:13:35,159 --> 01:13:39,199
form of escape too, or avoidance to But there is

1312
01:13:39,239 --> 01:13:41,840
a second awakening that happens where finally you make peace

1313
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,079
with that, you make peace that you've got to go

1314
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:48,960
on being human, and then but you decide to make

1315
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,800
it the best that you can for yourself and for

1316
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,720
each other. So the second awakening is like really embracing

1317
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,680
humanity and wanting to make a difference in it, you know.

1318
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:01,960
And though the spirit world is so fun place to

1319
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,640
play around, and it is it's quite a quite a

1320
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:10,279
spiritual playground too, but then really putting your presence and

1321
01:14:10,399 --> 01:14:15,439
your energy and your focus here too, having a balance

1322
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:20,119
because it matters. We all matter, Our human parts matter too,

1323
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:23,479
and at the end of the day, every human if

1324
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,720
every human being felt like they mattered and felt safe

1325
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,880
the world would be completely different than it is right now.

1326
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:35,680
So sometimes you got to start there too too. And

1327
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,680
in these kind of busy, crazy times, the other thing

1328
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:43,000
that's been coming through is just keep going. Just just

1329
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:46,399
keep going. Things are going to happen. You're gonna lose something,

1330
01:14:46,399 --> 01:14:49,039
We're gonna stub your toe, You're something's gonna happen, is

1331
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:50,800
going to go wrong. A lot of things are also

1332
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,680
going to go right. You just keep going, trying not

1333
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,079
to get too bogged down by it. Just keep going.

1334
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,680
It all comes around in the end, everything finds a

1335
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,479
way of working itself out. And this just keep moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer, it has been an absolute pleasure talking to you.

1337
01:15:06,399 --> 01:15:07,199
Speaker 2: You're so sweet.

1338
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 1: I love your energy. Thank you, Thank you for helping

1339
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,199
awaken the planet. My dear appreciate you doing my part.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Alex. Really appreciate this time with you.

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.

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