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<v Speaker 1>Sorry in British Columbia, sits just north of the Canada

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<v Speaker 1>United States border. It was named after Sorry in England,

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<v Speaker 1>and was incorporated in eighteen seventy nine, when it was

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<v Speaker 1>little more than scattered farms, logging camps, and dense forest.

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<v Speaker 1>But as Vancouver's population exploded in the decades that followed,

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<v Speaker 1>Surrey became the natural destination for family seeking more affordable

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<v Speaker 1>housing and open space. By twenty fourteen, it was home

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<v Speaker 1>to nearly half a million people. It had become a

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<v Speaker 1>patchwork of neighborhoods, ranging from industrial zones to quiet suburban enclaves,

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<v Speaker 1>where families sought the promise of safety and community. South

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<v Speaker 1>Surrey in particular had long been considered one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more desirable areas, tree lined streets, worn and three gated

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<v Speaker 1>communities where houses sat behind manicured lawns and tall fences.

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<v Speaker 1>The area around Crescent Road was especially quiet, a network

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<v Speaker 1>of called the Sacks, where the only regular sounds were

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<v Speaker 1>the hum of lawnmowers in the summer and the rustle

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<v Speaker 1>of leaves in the autumn. It was the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood where an unexpected knock on the door was unusual

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<v Speaker 1>enough to be noteworthy, and on the morning of the

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<v Speaker 1>tenth of December twenty fourteen, just after noon, Joan Cook

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<v Speaker 1>heard that knock. She opened up her front door to

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<v Speaker 1>find a woman standing on her doorstep, a woman that

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't recognize. The woman's breath stank of alcohol. Her

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<v Speaker 1>words came out frantic, disjointed, tumbling over each other in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that made it hard to understand what she

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<v Speaker 1>was saying. She said she had crashed her car. She

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<v Speaker 1>said her baby was dead. She said to call nine

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<v Speaker 1>one one. Within minutes, emergency vehicles descended on the quiet

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<v Speaker 1>called the sack. Neighbors emerged from their homes, standing on

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<v Speaker 1>porches and peering through windows, trying to understand what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>On their straight Officers approached the vehicles stuck in the

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<v Speaker 1>ditch at the end of the street. The trunk was open,

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<v Speaker 1>and what they found inside was worse than anybody could

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<v Speaker 1>have ever imagined. In the autumn of twenty and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>eight year old Tagan Aaron Batstone was a third grader

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<v Speaker 1>at Rosemary Heights Elementary School in Surrey, British Columbia. Her

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<v Speaker 1>teachers and classmates new as a girl who seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>radiate kindness, the kind of child who made friendship look effortless.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who knew Tagan described her as possessing an uncanny gift.

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<v Speaker 1>She had this remarkable ability to make everyone she met

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<v Speaker 1>feel better about themselves. Tagan had been born in white Rock,

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<v Speaker 1>British Columbia, on the twenty seventh of June two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and six. White Rock was a seaside city just south

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<v Speaker 1>of Surrey, known for its long pair and the massive

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<v Speaker 1>white boulder that gave the town its name. For the

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<v Speaker 1>first years of her life, she lived with both her parents,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa and Gabe Batstone. Her father, Gabe, was the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of a Vancouver based tech company, a position that required

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<v Speaker 1>frequent travel and long hours. It was the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>job that meant early flights, late nights, conference calls from

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<v Speaker 1>hotel rooms, and weeks away from home. Her mother, Lisa,

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<v Speaker 1>worked for some time as a whale trainer at the

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<v Speaker 1>Vancouver Aquarium, but by two thousand and eight, when Tagan

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<v Speaker 1>was just two years old, the march had fractured. Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>gave divorce two years later in two thousand and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>The separation carved Hagan's childhood into two distant geographies. Her

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<v Speaker 1>primary home was with her mother in South Surrey, in

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<v Speaker 1>a gated community. It was the type of neighborhood where

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<v Speaker 1>people waved at each other from driveways but rarely knew

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<v Speaker 1>what went on behind closed doors. Neighbors would later remember

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa as super friendly and Tagan as a child who

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<v Speaker 1>was always playing outside with her friends. She rode her bike,

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<v Speaker 1>she played games. She was by all appearances, a happy child,

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<v Speaker 1>and indeed Lisa seemed to be adapted well to being

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<v Speaker 1>a single mother. On a photography website, she wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>love was being a single mom nearly twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>seven and loving every single second, even the freaking exhausting

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<v Speaker 1>ones he he taken is worth it. By the post,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed as though Lisa was embracing the chaos of parenthood.

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<v Speaker 1>In another post on her social media she wrote, I

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<v Speaker 1>love being a step at home mom and take but

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<v Speaker 1>Tagan's life extended far beyond British Columbia's borders. Four times

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<v Speaker 1>a year she would board a plane bown for Ottawa,

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<v Speaker 1>where her father had relocated after the divorce. There waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for her were two brothers, an eight year old stepbrother

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<v Speaker 1>and a two year old half brother. Gbe had remarried,

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<v Speaker 1>and his new wife, Stephanie, embraced Tagan as fully as

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<v Speaker 1>her own children. The blended family dynamic could have been complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>but by all the counts it wasn't. Tagan adored her

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<v Speaker 1>brother's and they adored her. During those Autoa visits, Taken

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<v Speaker 1>blended in seamlessly, as if she had always been there.

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<v Speaker 1>She played with her brother, and she helped with the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>She attended their school events and sat at the dinner table,

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<v Speaker 1>and became, for those precious weeks, a constant presence in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. Her father would recall that she was a

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<v Speaker 1>big sister in every sense of the word. There had

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<v Speaker 1>been communication problems between Cabe and Lisa, however, the kind

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<v Speaker 1>that crept in after divorce, when two people who once

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<v Speaker 1>shared a life now shared only a daughter and the

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<v Speaker 1>logistics that came with her. They enlisted the help of

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<v Speaker 1>Vancouver based family counselor Michael Elderman. Gabe later said that

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<v Speaker 1>he was pivotal in creating a strategy for meaningful communication

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<v Speaker 1>that included emails once a week to discuss plans and childcare.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in Sorry, Taken, through herself, went to life with

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<v Speaker 1>the same enthusiasm that she brought to everything. She loved

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<v Speaker 1>to play tennis, she performed gymnastics, and she loved to run.

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<v Speaker 1>She and her mother, Lisa, were familiar faces at White

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<v Speaker 1>Rock Baptist Church. Pastor Fey Puddikumbe described Hagan as an affectionate,

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<v Speaker 1>vivacious little girl, loved by everyone who knew her, the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of child who sat attentively during services. She participated

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<v Speaker 1>in Sunday school. She loved her dog, bat and her

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<v Speaker 1>cap beans. In December twenty fourteen, just a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>before Christmas, Gabe had traveled to Surrey to spend a

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<v Speaker 1>few days with his daughter. The city would have been

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<v Speaker 1>decorated for the holidays by then, light strung across storefronts,

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<v Speaker 1>wraiths hanging on doors, the kind of season when everything

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<v Speaker 1>feels hopeful. On the eighth of December, Gabe took his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter taken to school. It was a routine morning breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>getting dressed, the drive through familiar streets. It stopped at

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<v Speaker 1>the dentist appointment first, that made their way to Rosemary

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<v Speaker 1>Heights Elementary. Gabe walk taken to her classroom. He later said,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the steps down the hallway holding her hand.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, she always loved to hold hands. It was

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<v Speaker 1>such a small detail, the kind of thing apparent might

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<v Speaker 1>not even notice in the moment. Just another morning, Just

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<v Speaker 1>another walked on a school hallway. But it was the

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<v Speaker 1>last time. Gabe then returned to Ottawa, back across the country,

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<v Speaker 1>to his other children, to his work, to his life

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<v Speaker 1>over there. He had no way of knowing those would

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<v Speaker 1>be his last moments with his daughter. Taken. After Gabe

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<v Speaker 1>arrived back in Ottawa, he received a text message from Lisa.

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<v Speaker 1>It read, it seems you rather I just disappear. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think it was out of the ordinary. Gabe and

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa had a contentious relationship, and cryptic, passive, aggressive messages

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<v Speaker 1>had become part of that pattern. It was the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of text that could mean everything or nothing, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>her mood that day. So Gabe filed it away mentally

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<v Speaker 1>and moved on with his evening. The next morning, just

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<v Speaker 1>after four am, Gabe received an email from Lisa. The

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<v Speaker 1>timestamp alone was unusual, four am on a school day.

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<v Speaker 1>It said that Tagan had the flu and wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>going to school, and Gabe had no reason to doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that children got sick. But somewhere across the country, in

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<v Speaker 1>the darkness of that early December morning, something had already

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<v Speaker 1>gone terribly wrong. Around four hours later, Pastor David Hogan

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<v Speaker 1>at White Rock Baptist Church received a strange email from

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Batstone. It read Jackie is evil and she killed us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too late now I'm broken. He knew exactly who

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<v Speaker 1>she was referring to. A Few months earlier, Lisa and

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<v Speaker 1>another church member, Jacqueline Joseph, had a falling out. They

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<v Speaker 1>had been scheduled to host a new life group, wherein

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<v Speaker 1>members of the church gathered to study the Bible, but

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<v Speaker 1>something had fractured between the two women, and Jacqueline got

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<v Speaker 1>off contact with Lisa. Lisa didn't let it go. She

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<v Speaker 1>continued to text her messages that grew increasingly hateful and nasty.

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<v Speaker 1>aware of the falling out when Jacqueline showed him the messages.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that she didn't feel comfortable around Lisa anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>The pastor decided it would be best if Lisa didn't

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<v Speaker 1>attend the group. He was trying to keep the peace,

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<v Speaker 1>to put some distance between the women, but Lisa didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take that decision well. She texted when John ages, I

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<v Speaker 1>pray he doesn't have to experience what Tagan is from

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<v Speaker 1>adults at this church, it was pointed and bitter, a

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<v Speaker 1>mother wielding her child as proof of injury. After that,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Intagan stopped attending church altogether. But now Pastor Hogan

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<v Speaker 1>was staring at the strange email from Lisa. Jackie is

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<v Speaker 1>evil and she killed us. It's too late now I'm broken,

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<v Speaker 1>He later recalled. It had a tone of finality to it,

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<v Speaker 1>so we became concerned for Tagan's well being, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had every right to be concerned. Shortly thereafter, a woman

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<v Speaker 1>living in a quiet called the sack Off Crescent Road

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<v Speaker 1>heard a knock on her front door. It was late

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<v Speaker 1>morning on the tenth of December two thousand and fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>John Cook opened the door to see a woman she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't recognize standing on her doorstep. The woman's stank of alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>Her words came out frantic and disjointed. She said she

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<v Speaker 1>had crashed her car, that her baby was dead, and

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<v Speaker 1>to call nine one one. Joan didn't hesitate. She called.

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<v Speaker 1>Within minutes, emergency vehicles descended on the quiet street. Constable

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Cuckerran was the first officer to arrive. She saw

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<v Speaker 1>the vehicle immediately, a car with its back half stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in a ditch at an awkward angle, as if some

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<v Speaker 1>one had lost control or given up trying to drive

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<v Speaker 1>it properly. The trunk was open. She approached cautiously, the

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<v Speaker 1>way officers are trained to do so when a scene

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense. Yet, as she got closer, she saw

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<v Speaker 1>after the scene was processed and documented. Lisa was ordered

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<v Speaker 1>and it was already clear who had killed her. Her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa started talking at Peace Arch Hospital, where she had

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<v Speaker 1>of our waves, unprompted and unstoppable. She kept repeating, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to die, please, there's nothing to live for.

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa spoke with several psychiatrists when she was there, each

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<v Speaker 1>conversation adding another piece to the horrifying puzzle. She said

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<v Speaker 1>that she and Tagan had been having a campout in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room the night before. It was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa said that she kept waking up throughout the night.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, taking looks so peaceful sleeping, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted her to be with Jesus. She said that she

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed a knife and held it over her daughter as

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<v Speaker 1>she slept, but she said she couldn't bring the knife

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<v Speaker 1>down on her. Something stopped her. Whether it was love

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<v Speaker 1>or fear or the last shred of conscience, no one

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<v Speaker 1>would ever know. Instead, Lisa said she got a plastic

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<v Speaker 1>bag and then held it over Takan's face. Lisa said

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<v Speaker 1>she had killed her daughter to protect her from her father,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also said she had killed her because she

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever darkness Lisa believed lived inside her own mind, according

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<v Speaker 1>to Lisia, she planned on taking her own life so

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<v Speaker 1>that she could die with her daughter. She said she

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<v Speaker 1>tried to suffocate herself by wrapping two plastic bags around

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<v Speaker 1>her head and securing them with duct tape, but she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't go through with it. The survival instinct apparently was

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<v Speaker 1>stronger than her resolve. She claimed she planned on dropping

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<v Speaker 1>her dog off at a sitter and then going somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>to take her own life, but she got the car

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in a ditch and a stranger opened their door,

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<v Speaker 1>and suddenly police were there, and it was too late

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<v Speaker 1>to finish what she'd started. On several occasions, Lisa mumbled,

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<v Speaker 1>you win, Gabe. The words were chilling in their implication

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<v Speaker 1>that this had been at least in part about Gabe,

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<v Speaker 1>about hurting him in the most devastating way imaginable. After

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<v Speaker 1>some time at the hospital, Lisa was transported to the

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<v Speaker 1>police station. She was taken into the interrogation room, where

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<v Speaker 1>her confession continued. The detectives asked her what she had

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<v Speaker 1>used to some mother her daughter. She replied a bag

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<v Speaker 1>before she fell out of her chair and curled into

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<v Speaker 1>the fetal position on the floor, crying. After some time,

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<v Speaker 1>she explained further, I just grabbed the bag from under

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<v Speaker 1>the cupboard. I needed the pain to end. She said

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<v Speaker 1>that Tagan looked so beautiful and peaceful, before adding I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't want her to have to live with what

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<v Speaker 1>I have to live with. Lisa Bathstone was charged with

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<v Speaker 1>the second degree murder of Tagan. She didn't say a

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<v Speaker 1>word when she appeared in court, but she was crying.

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<v Speaker 1>Her defense attorney Craig's Sout requested a psychiatric assessment. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very serious concern. Miss Batstone's mental state is

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<v Speaker 1>very fragile. Without an assurance that she's fit to stand trial,

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<v Speaker 1>this can't proceed any further. It was soon discovered that

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa had struggled with her men health since she was

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager. The problems weren't new, they had been there

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<v Speaker 1>for years. Looking beneath the surface of the cheerful social

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<v Speaker 1>media posts, and the friendly waves to neighbors. She was

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<v Speaker 1>involuntarily hospitalized in twenty twelve after she attempted to take

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<v Speaker 1>her own life. Taken temporarily went to live with her father, Gabe,

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<v Speaker 1>in Ottawa, but once Lisa was released, Taken was sent

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<v Speaker 1>back to live with her. Gabe was worried. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think that Lisa was capable of looking after Taking, he

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<v Speaker 1>worried about her safety. He tried to get custody of

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter, but his request was declined, so the court

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<v Speaker 1>sent Taken back to Surrey, back to the gated community,

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<v Speaker 1>back to her mother. After Lisa was arrested, detectives executed

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<v Speaker 1>a search warrant at her home. They came across four

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<v Speaker 1>letters that offered an insight into her state of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>They had been clearly written after Taken was killed. In

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<v Speaker 1>those rs between the smothering and the knock on Joan

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<v Speaker 1>Cook's door, one read I can't believe I took my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter's life. Another part read I deserve to go to

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<v Speaker 1>jail or institution plus death penalty. Another was found on

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<v Speaker 1>top of a garbage can, which read I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Two others were discovered attached to a closet door. One

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<v Speaker 1>read you win, Gabe, the other you broke me. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the letters read that Lisa had suffered relentless mental

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<v Speaker 1>and emotional abuse. She also complained about how Gabe was

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<v Speaker 1>putting Tagan first. Daily, she continued writing, I tried because

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<v Speaker 1>Tagan deserved better. I just couldn't imagine leaving here and

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<v Speaker 1>leaving her to Hymn. I loved her to the moon

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<v Speaker 1>and back, and now she's in no pain. The letters

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<v Speaker 1>painted a picture of a woman who believed she was

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<v Speaker 1>simultaneously a victim and a savior, someone who had convinced

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<v Speaker 1>herself that killing her daughter was an act of love

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<v Speaker 1>of protection, that taking Tagan's life was somehow better than

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<v Speaker 1>letting her live it. The news of the tragic discovery

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<v Speaker 1>and the arrest of Lisa spread rapidly through Surrey and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>People were stunned. The gated community where Lisa and Tagan

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<v Speaker 1>had lived was quiet, in the way that neighborhoods get

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<v Speaker 1>when something unspeakable happens behind one of their doors. One

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<v Speaker 1>local woman, who has not to be named, said, Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>has always been a loving, devoted mother to her daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone who knows Lisa is so shocked because she was

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<v Speaker 1>a single mom whose life revolved around Taken in every way.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the refrain that would echo through the community

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<v Speaker 1>in the days to come. People couldn't reconcile the Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>they knew, the super friendly neighbor, the woman who posted

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiastically about loving motherhood with the woman now standing accused

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<v Speaker 1>of killing her own daughter. Tigan's father, Gabe, was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>distraught across the country in Ottawa, he was processing the unthinkable.

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<v Speaker 1>He posted on Twitter, life will never be the same

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<v Speaker 1>after losing my daughter to murder, Our family courts and

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<v Speaker 1>thus we all failed. He said that he wasn't able

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about his daughter without sobbing. He also posted

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<v Speaker 1>photographs of Taken and a link to a video he

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<v Speaker 1>had made six months earlier. It was a photo slideshow,

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<v Speaker 1>a collection of moments from her short life. One photo

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<v Speaker 1>contained the caption Taken will not be me, she will

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<v Speaker 1>be better than me. Gabe made the video for an

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<v Speaker 1>international campaign called Girls twenty under the title Father's Impowering Daughters.

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<v Speaker 1>The campaign was created to encourage g twenty leaders to

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<v Speaker 1>invest in girls and women now. The video stood as

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<v Speaker 1>a haunting testament to a future that would never arrive

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<v Speaker 1>Gabe spoke with the media and said he hadn't yet

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<v Speaker 1>told the boys about Taking's death. His sons didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>yet that their sister wasn't ever coming to visit again.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that Grave councilors were going to help him

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<v Speaker 1>deliver the news. He also asked for privacy, but said

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<v Speaker 1>he hoped to speak more publicly about Taking in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I don't want her to ever be forgotten,

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<v Speaker 1>and the next day Gabe spoke further. He called for

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<v Speaker 1>law reform when it came to custody cases. The grief

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth of December, hundreds of people gathered for a memorial

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<v Speaker 1>for Taking at White Rock Baptist Church. Pastor alis Andre

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<v Speaker 1>addressed the congregation and said, to be clear, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a celebration of life, pink, white, and purple balloons sat

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<v Speaker 1>alongside matching arrangements of flowers. They sat at the front

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<v Speaker 1>of the church, surrounding frame photographs of Taken, images of

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<v Speaker 1>a smiling girl with her whole life ahead of her

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<v Speaker 1>frozen noine time. People stood before a microphone and shared

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<v Speaker 1>fond memories of Taken. Pastor Putticumb said the first thing

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<v Speaker 1>Tagan did when she got to church was run and

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<v Speaker 1>give certain people hugs. I was fortunate enough to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the recipients of those amazing hugs. The children's

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<v Speaker 1>program coordinator at the church, Lisa Strue, said Tagan was

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute delight and she blessed our livesin His maternal grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Hamilton, was there, along with the number of her classmates.

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<v Speaker 1>Barry later said that his daughter was so remorseful and

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<v Speaker 1>so sorry for what had happened. He said that Tagan

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<v Speaker 1>was his daughter's only reason for being. He said, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>that knew Taken and new Lisa knows that she was

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best mother in the world and this never

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<v Speaker 1>ever would have happened if she had been in the

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<v Speaker 1>right frame of mind. According to Barry, bipolar disorder ran

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<v Speaker 1>in the family. He said that he had been visiting

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter in jail and that he loved her unconditionally.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a good mom. He said. The words were

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<v Speaker 1>complicated and painful, a father defending his daughter even as

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<v Speaker 1>his granddaughter lay dead. It was the kind of situation

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<v Speaker 1>where love and horror existed in the same place, where

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<v Speaker 1>family loyalty collided with unspeakable tragedy. A few days later,

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<v Speaker 1>it was announced that Lisa had received a full psychiatric

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<v Speaker 1>assessment and was confident to stand trial. Her defense attorney

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<v Speaker 1>said he was content with the finding. Lisa was ordered

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<v Speaker 1>to remain held at a psychiatric hospital. Her father, Barry, commented,

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<v Speaker 1>she needs to be in an environment where she can

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<v Speaker 1>build up her strength and confidence. Her defense attorney remarked

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<v Speaker 1>that Lisa was suffering from severe depression. The case continued

415
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:43.599
<v Speaker 1>to move through the court slowly. Months past seasons changed.

416
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<v Speaker 1>The first anniversary of Tagan's death approached. Before that one

417
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>year mark arrived, gab and his family established a national

418
00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:57.720
<v Speaker 1>nonprofit advocacy organization. They named it Tagan's Voice, and it

419
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>was focused on driving policy and procedural changes across federal

420
00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and provincial boundaries to prevent violence against children. Gabe said

421
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>he was pushing the federal government to appoint a national

422
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Children's Advocate whose focus was on the well being of children,

423
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>not the financial aspect of childcare. He said he also

424
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>wanted to see children have legal representation in custody cases,

425
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 1>their own lawyers, their own voices, independent of their parents' battles.

426
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 1>He felt that Tagan had been let down by the

427
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>courts when they returned her to her mother's care after

428
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:36.319
<v Speaker 1>her suicide attempt. It was the kind of change that

429
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>came too late for taking, but perhaps Gabe hoped it

430
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:44.119
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be too late for someone else's daughter. The murder

431
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.319
<v Speaker 1>trial began on the fourteenth of November twenty to eighteen,

432
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 1>nearly four years after Takan's death, four years of legal maneuvering,

433
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 1>psychiatric assessments and a father waiting for answers, four years

434
00:29:58.279 --> 00:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of a community trying to make sense of senseless The

435
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 1>courtroom was filled with family members and friends. Members of

436
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 1>White Rock Baptist Church were there as well, a show

437
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>of support that spoke to the complicated nature of the case.

438
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Faiputticum was now retired as a pastor, but she said

439
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>we're here to support her. I think it's important that

440
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.359
<v Speaker 1>people know that it was a statement that would sit

441
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>uncomfortably with some supporting a woman accused of murdering her child,

442
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 1>But for those who knew Lisa before that December morning,

443
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>the woman in the courtroom seemed like a stranger wearing

444
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 1>a familiar face. During opening statements, Prosecutor Fatima Negetale led

445
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:43.039
<v Speaker 1>out the central question whether Lisa had intended to kill

446
00:30:43.079 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 1>her daughter. She stated miss Batstone made a decision to

447
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.759
<v Speaker 1>kill her daughter. It was the prosecution's belief that Lisa

448
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>had killed Tagan despite Gabe, not out of love, not

449
00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>out of protection, not because of mental illness, out of

450
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 1>a desire to hurt him in the most devastating way imaginable,

451
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>to take away the purse and he loved the most.

452
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>The courtroom got to hear about Lisa's behavior in the

453
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.880
<v Speaker 1>lead up to the murder, including her falling out with

454
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Jacqueline Joseph at the church. The defense said that Lisa

455
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>felt as though she had been let down and ostracized

456
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.519
<v Speaker 1>by the church. This only added fuel to her mental

457
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>health problems. They said she was spiraling, isolated, unraveling, and

458
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>no one had seen it. In time. The court got

459
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.119
<v Speaker 1>to hear Lisa's comments after her arrest, wherein she confessed

460
00:31:43.119 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 1>to killing her daughter. One psychiatrist testified she said she

461
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:52.400
<v Speaker 1>had killed Tagan despite her ex husband. They also got

462
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:54.759
<v Speaker 1>to see the four letters that were discovered in the home.

463
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.759
<v Speaker 1>You win Gabe, you broke me. Each won a piece

464
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 1>of evidence, suggesting that this was as much about him

465
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>as it was Tagan. The prosecution then called on Gabe.

466
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 1>It was the first time he had seen Lisa since

467
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Teagan's death, the first time they had been together in

468
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>the same room in four years. He didn't look at

469
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>his ex wife as he took to the witness stand.

470
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.319
<v Speaker 1>He testified about the loving relationship he had with his daughter.

471
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:28.079
<v Speaker 1>He described the sometimes acrimonious and combative communication and costaly

472
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.839
<v Speaker 1>battle between him and Lisa. He spoke about the weekly

473
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.279
<v Speaker 1>emails they had, the structured communication that was supposed to

474
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>keep things civil, but he said that in the lead

475
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 1>up to Tagan's murder, Lisa was bombarding him with texts,

476
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 1>phone calls, and emails. He said they were sent at

477
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>such a rate that it would have been impossible to

478
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:52.519
<v Speaker 1>reply to all of them. Lisa's defense questioned Gabe on

479
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.039
<v Speaker 1>the type of language he used with Lisa, especially after

480
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>she tried to take her own life. In twenty twelve,

481
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 1>defense attorney Tony Passiana asked if he told Lisa she

482
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:08.319
<v Speaker 1>had abandoned taken by trying to kill herself. He also

483
00:33:08.359 --> 00:33:13.119
<v Speaker 1>asked Gabe if he had ever mocked Lisa's intelligence. Gabbe

484
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>said he couldn't recall, before adding, I think she took

485
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 1>opportunities to make my life more difficult. He said he

486
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.119
<v Speaker 1>had noticed changes in Lisa's tone in the month's leading

487
00:33:23.200 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>up to take It's murder. Something was off, something was building.

488
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>It was revealed during trial that while Lisa had been

489
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>very open and described in detail what she had done

490
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to take in that night while in the hospital, when

491
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:40.799
<v Speaker 1>she was interviewed by forensic psychiatrist Jeannette Smith in February

492
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and May of two thousand and fifteen, she seemingly couldn't remember.

493
00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Smith said to the court she maintained that she

494
00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:53.359
<v Speaker 1>had no recollection of smothering her daughter, no or little

495
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>memory of the actual offense. She said that this raised

496
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:01.039
<v Speaker 1>red flags for her around the reliability of Lisa's statements

497
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>during their interviews. She told the court that Lisa was

498
00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 1>likely unable to know that her actions were morally wrong,

499
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 1>but it was apparent that she knew they were legally wrong.

500
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>In other words, Lisa understood she would face consequences, She

501
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:20.159
<v Speaker 1>just didn't believe in her mind that what she had

502
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.679
<v Speaker 1>done was morally wrong. In later interviews, Lisa had said

503
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that she heard a voice telling her you have to

504
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:31.599
<v Speaker 1>save her, you have to protect her. However, Lisa never

505
00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:36.159
<v Speaker 1>mentioned this voice during early interviews. It wasn't until the

506
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>next year that she claimed she heard a voice. Another

507
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>contradiction came when Lisa told the doctor that she didn't

508
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 1>hold any anger towards Gabe, yet when she was first arrested,

509
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>she kept blaming Gabe for what had happened. She said,

510
00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you win, Gabe, over and over again. The suggestion was

511
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>clear Lisa had killed Tagan to get back at Gabe,

512
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.400
<v Speaker 1>but later decided to try for an insanity defense to

513
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 1>claim she heard voices and had no recollection of the murder,

514
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>to reframe her actions as something she couldn't control, couldn't remember,

515
00:35:11.559 --> 00:35:18.039
<v Speaker 1>couldn't be healthfully accountable for. Prosecutor Macpherson said Lisa's hallucination

516
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>was perhaps directed at giving the impression to the assessing

517
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>forensic psychiatrist that she had been psychotically ill at the

518
00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.559
<v Speaker 1>time of the offense, and therefore eligible for a finding

519
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of not criminally responsible on account of mental disorder. In

520
00:35:33.800 --> 00:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>other words, the voices might have been invented, the memory

521
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>loss might have been strategic, and if that was true,

522
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>then Lisa Batstone had killed her daughter with full awareness

523
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of what she was doing and had spent years trying

524
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to construct a defense that would absolve her of responsibility.

525
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 1>After that, the defense began their case. Yes. Lisa's defense

526
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>team said that her level of intoxication may have limited

527
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>her ability to gauge the consequences of killing Taken. They

528
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 1>said that, combined with borderline personality trades, significant levels of

529
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:18.360
<v Speaker 1>depression and a cloud of stressors, these factors raised thoughts

530
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that Lisa had the intent to kill. The defense also

531
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>suggested that Lisa had acted in an altruistic motive, in

532
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>a distorted belief that she was saving or protecting Taken.

533
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>It was the mercy killing argument that a mother, however misguided,

534
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.239
<v Speaker 1>however ill, believed that she was doing the right thing.

535
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>On the seventh of December twenty fourteen, three days before

536
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:48.079
<v Speaker 1>Taken was killed, Lisa had brought a three liter box

537
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>of wine and six mixed drinks please find the empty

538
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:56.199
<v Speaker 1>box of wine when they searched her home on the tenth. However,

539
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:58.559
<v Speaker 1>the defense admitted they didn't know how much alcohol she

540
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.039
<v Speaker 1>had drunk before killing her dog. They couldn't say if

541
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:05.079
<v Speaker 1>she had consumed it that night or over several days.

542
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>The uncertainty was part of their argument that the exact

543
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 1>state of Lisa's intoxication remained unknown. That was their entire case.

544
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>During closing arguments, they said that Lisa fell asleep after

545
00:37:18.480 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>killing Taken, and that she had memory problems, both consistent

546
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:28.199
<v Speaker 1>with excessive alcohol consumption, a blackout, perhaps a woman so

547
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 1>intoxicated she couldn't form the intent necessary for murder. The

548
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>prosecution fought back. They said that Lisa intended to kill

549
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Taken and had done it to Spike Gabe. The letters

550
00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>proved it, The hospital statements proved it. You win, Gabe,

551
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.320
<v Speaker 1>The words of a woman who knew exactly what she

552
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 1>was doing, and why. The judge ultimately found Lisa Badstone

553
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>guilty of second degree murder. In announcing the verdict, she said,

554
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 1>the whole of the evidence points to only one inference,

555
00:38:02.280 --> 00:38:06.159
<v Speaker 1>when the accused smothered her daughter, whatever the motive, the

556
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 1>only possible inference is that her intent was to end

557
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Tacan's life. It was deliberate, it was purposeful, and it

558
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.519
<v Speaker 1>was murder. Lisa returned to court on the twelfth of

559
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 1>June twenty nineteen for the sentencing phase. She was facing

560
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 1>an automatic life sentence with no chance of parole for

561
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>at least ten years. The question was how many years

562
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:34.199
<v Speaker 1>beyond that minimum the judge would impose anywhere from ten

563
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.440
<v Speaker 1>to twenty five years before Lisa could even apply for parole.

564
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Gabe stood before the court. He tearfully said that a happy, empathetic,

565
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.360
<v Speaker 1>sensitive and loving child was taken away from the world

566
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>for no reason. He said the worst part was seeing

567
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the impact on Tagan's two brothers, who now lived with

568
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 1>profound grief. He said, the first questions that they asked

569
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>shortly after her murder and many times since, offer a

570
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:07.199
<v Speaker 1>glimpse into their shattered innocence and raw emotional pain. Why

571
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.239
<v Speaker 1>is my sister in the ground when other kids have

572
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>sisters at school? Is Tagan's mommy going to kill me too?

573
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Those questions were devastating children trying to make sense of

574
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Speaker 1>something that made absolutely no sense. A little boy wondering

575
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 1>if he was next. His wife, Stephanie, said that her

576
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:29.559
<v Speaker 1>oldest son had lost his ability to be a child

577
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:34.519
<v Speaker 1>because Lisa took his sister, his best friend, and his childhood.

578
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Lisa was given the opportunity to speak. She read from

579
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.679
<v Speaker 1>a prepared statement and said, I would give anything to

580
00:39:42.679 --> 00:39:46.159
<v Speaker 1>go back and change what happened that day. She cried

581
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 1>as she said she woke up each morning to an

582
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:53.880
<v Speaker 1>excruciating nightmare, and I don't know what happened. She apologized

583
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to Tagan's father, stepmother, brothers, and all who knew and

584
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>loved her. She then said said Tagan loved all of you,

585
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>and I know you loved her. I'm so very sorry.

586
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.119
<v Speaker 1>The words hung in the courtroom. For some, they may

587
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:14.039
<v Speaker 1>have seemed genuine. For others, they came far too late.

588
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Lisa Batstone was then sentenced to life in prison without

589
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of parole for fifteen years. In announcing the sentence,

590
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:28.159
<v Speaker 1>the judge said the killing was intentional, It involved choices

591
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and decisions, It involved effort. Miss Batstone's actions were purposeful

592
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and goal directed. She never wavered from that goal. The

593
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:42.320
<v Speaker 1>judge also said that although Lisa was suffering from depression, anxiety,

594
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and borderline personality disorder. Her mental issues did not significantly

595
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:51.719
<v Speaker 1>diminish her moral culpability, she said. Tagan relied on her mother.

596
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>She trusted her more than anyone for good reason. Her

597
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>mother took care of her. Her mother was her safety net.

598
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Her mother was her protect her until the end. That

599
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a parent could kill their own child rocks the foundation

600
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of societal values. When it's for a selfish reason, as

601
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:14.239
<v Speaker 1>it was here, it's all the more shocking. The message

602
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>was clear. Mental illness might explain, but it did an excuse.

603
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Lisa had made a choice. She had held that plastic

604
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.519
<v Speaker 1>bag over her daughter's face and held it there until

605
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 1>she stopped struggling. In the end, Lisa Batstone would serve

606
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>a life sentence, but it would be much less than

607
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:40.159
<v Speaker 1>fifteen years. On the first of January twenty twenty four,

608
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>just over four years into her sentence, Lisa was found

609
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>dead in prison. The cause of death was never disclosed,

610
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 1>but one can only assume it was suicide. The same

611
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.679
<v Speaker 1>escape she had attempted that December morning in two thousand

612
00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and fourteen, finally completed behind prison walls. Gabe said afterwards

613
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 1>that a significant burden had been lifted with her death.

614
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>He said, we no longer faced the daunting prospect of

615
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:11.199
<v Speaker 1>her potential release, an event that would have posed an

616
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>undeniable risk to other innocent children. The safety of our

617
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>family and community from a convicted child murderer is now assured,

618
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>bringing a substantial relief amidstar enduring grief. There was no

619
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 1>victory in her death, no celebration, just the cold certainty

620
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that the woman who killed Tagan would never walk free,

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<v Speaker 1>would never have the chance to harm another child. Well

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<v Speaker 1>that is it for this episode of Morbidology. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for listening, and I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>say a massive thank you to my new supporters up

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<v Speaker 1>on patroon Bean Karen, Angie, Gwen and Sarah. The link

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<v Speaker 1>to patron is in the show notes if you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to join. And I upload Adfrey in early release episodes

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<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes, and I also send out some merch

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<v Speaker 1>along with a thank you card. I also do bonus

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of Morbidology Plus that aren't on the regular podcast platforms,

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<v Speaker 1>and these are also available over on Apple subscriptions for

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<v Speaker 1>those who like to listen there. Remember to check us

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<v Speaker 1>out at morbidology dot com for more information about this

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<v Speaker 1>episode and to read some true crime articles. Until next time,

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<v Speaker 1>take care of yourselves, stay safe, and have an amazing week.

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<v Speaker 1>Tump
