Speaker 1: So, Tyler, do you know, since you are younger and
Speaker 1: far more hip than I am, have you heard have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of Spreen?
Speaker 2: I cannot say I've heard of Spreen.
Speaker 1: Okay, because he's an alleged influencer and has like seven
Speaker 1: million followers on YouTube and started a match in Argentina,
Speaker 1: and now the Argentine Justice Department is raising questions and
Speaker 1: the people's eyebrow about having an influencer with no soccer
Speaker 1: experience starting a match as a as a promotional opportunity
Speaker 1: in Argentina. So yeah, Spreen started.
Speaker 2: I mean, if the club wanted to play, who cares well?
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe the folks that are tied to the juice boxes.
Speaker 1: And that was why I brought it up, because they
Speaker 1: were a large dog at home. They were a minus
Speaker 1: five ninety six, the draw was a plus two to
Speaker 1: eighty one in the composite and the match ended up
Speaker 1: as a one to one draw.
Speaker 3: So you got wink wink, nudge nudge. Had you do?
Speaker 1: How'd you do against the team at the top of
Speaker 1: the table, and you, as the home massive dogs started Spreen,
Speaker 1: a YouTube influencer and played him for fifty seconds before
Speaker 1: you burned a window and you burned a sub I
Speaker 1: don't know how many sub windows you have in Argentina,
Speaker 1: but it was just it was odd to begin with.
Speaker 1: And now when the Argentine Justice Department's kind of sitting
Speaker 1: there going bruh or fam I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was a singular or a plural request, but now we
Speaker 1: have the Argentine Justice Department raising the people's eyebrow over
Speaker 1: starting spreen.
Speaker 3: If you were a dipper TiVo riestro, so that was
Speaker 3: opening kickoff this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the people who are in charge of dealing with
Speaker 2: the monies uh huh absolutely had something to say because
Speaker 2: why in the world does the government need to get
Speaker 2: involved in our quaint, little, not quaint little soccer game.
Speaker 2: Like I've heard of speed, I've never heard of Spreen.
Speaker 2: I almost said Spleen.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what's that for me?
Speaker 1: When I first heard about dude, I'm like, that sounds
Speaker 1: like a body part than an old guy would sprain. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, sprain, I've heard of Spleen, but I've
Speaker 1: never heard of note.
Speaker 2: To be fair, and this is not a knock him
Speaker 2: on the young man at all. I didn't know who
Speaker 2: in the world the influencer was that hit the Golden
Speaker 2: Spike earlier this year in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: You ain't looking at me for that, if.
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, apparently he's doing quite well. I wish
Speaker 2: he would toss some of those those subscribers our way YouTube,
Speaker 2: but I just look some of them, you know, you
Speaker 2: see more than others. I don't know who that guy
Speaker 2: was in, nor do I know who Spleen Spring Spring
Speaker 2: scene is.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh huh uh huh yeah, so I'm hit. No, well,
Speaker 1: I shoot, I have I have not been hip for
Speaker 1: quite some time. Uh but no, that was opening kickoff
Speaker 1: this morning. It was either that or Undertaker modeling the
Speaker 1: third jersey for Genoa.
Speaker 3: That is now.
Speaker 2: That was that was out of left field.
Speaker 1: Well, and I will say this, I'll give Genoa credit,
Speaker 1: uh A for the marketing budget and b jersey's pretty sweet,
Speaker 1: I'll give I'll give him credit for that. Traditionally, for me,
Speaker 1: anything in the darker colors where I can mask spilling
Speaker 1: something that's always a good thing for me. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the the Undertaker modeling Jennaa's third jersey. Rita Aura apparently
Speaker 1: did it last year and so now they have Undertaker
Speaker 1: doing it this year. So it was I was torn
Speaker 1: as to what opening kickoff was going to be. It
Speaker 1: was either going to be Undertaker or Argentina, and I
Speaker 1: went with Spreen and Argentina.
Speaker 2: You had options this morning, for sure. A lot of
Speaker 2: stuff happening over the past twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you ain't kidding, brother, all right?
Speaker 1: So in chat, yes, MLS Monday, How was your MLS Monday?
Speaker 3: After knocking off Messi and friends? How was that? For
Speaker 3: those that have not had the chance to catch the replay?
Speaker 2: I had to spend Sunday with very very minimal speaking
Speaker 2: because I had no voice. I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: seen me lose in my mind along with everybody else
Speaker 2: at the end of that match, and I'll watch along,
Speaker 2: but I yeah, I had I had very minimal voice
Speaker 2: activity on Sunday. So Monday came around, and you know,
Speaker 2: the whole point of that thing's supposed to be an
Speaker 2: MLS Monday show, not just an Atlanta United show. But
Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest story really in soccer this past
Speaker 2: weekend was was what Atlanta did to Messi. And we
Speaker 2: had Steve Cangelosi who called the game on which was great,
Speaker 2: and you know, got some insight from him about the
Speaker 2: game and the series and then also about you know,
Speaker 2: the other matches that are going on, and look, you've
Speaker 2: got that ha ha ha ha kind of mentality about it.
Speaker 2: You got you know, everybody's just kind of reveling in
Speaker 2: the moment, which is really really fun to see everybody's excited.
Speaker 2: And then I think kind of the consensus by the
Speaker 2: end of it was, you know, yes, like Miami is
Speaker 2: out cool. I don't care. I really don't care. As
Speaker 2: an Atlanta fan, I can I can revel in the
Speaker 2: moment and be so happy that it was Atlanta that
Speaker 2: did it. But there are there are still some genuinely
Speaker 2: good fun storylines and games like if you're neutral, Atlanta
Speaker 2: Orlando is a must watch, the Hudson River Darby's a
Speaker 2: must watch, Like you've got some really good games coming up,
Speaker 2: and just because they don't have a guy named Leno
Speaker 2: Messi and it doesn't mean they're not worth watching.
Speaker 1: So and in the West, if Chawk happens, then you
Speaker 1: set up with El Traffico for a possible Western Conference final.
Speaker 2: Yep, there's there's lots of cool things happening. And if
Speaker 2: you if you were on the Messy bandwagon and you
Speaker 2: just happened to still be here after the better team
Speaker 2: knocked him out of the tournament. Go watch these other games,
Speaker 2: because I promise you they'll be much more entertaining.
Speaker 1: Yes, And the the idea, and this is a part
Speaker 1: of the conversation that I've been having involving Messian friends specifically,
Speaker 1: is that when you are built the way that you're built,
Speaker 1: and you are The analogy that I came up with
Speaker 1: was the Loyal and merrymount offense from college basketball, where
Speaker 1: literally it's like, if you have the ball in your
Speaker 1: hands any more than five seconds, you're taking entirely too
Speaker 1: long before you put up a shot.
Speaker 3: Yea. And it is it was so.
Speaker 1: Heavily stilted toward the offense that when you have the
Speaker 1: defense structured the way that you do, then you have
Speaker 1: injuries attached to that defense, then Tata Martine and the
Speaker 1: staff have to and Jorge Teeler they have to be
Speaker 1: imaginative and trying to figure out, Okay, how are we
Speaker 1: going to fill these holes and how are we going
Speaker 1: to try and and you know, cover up all of
Speaker 1: the cracks and the foundation of our defense. And it's
Speaker 1: also the difference in a one off and a best
Speaker 1: of three, because you can analyze what's going on with
Speaker 1: what happened in match number one, the injuries, the Sergei
Speaker 1: bousquetes where he's not available in two busquets ends up,
Speaker 1: you know, being a sub in Matt number three after no,
Speaker 1: he wasn't available, but no, he practiced on the side
Speaker 1: and everything's fine. He's just questionable subterfusion and a decider.
Speaker 1: Who ever thought of something like that when it came
Speaker 1: to player health and identification.
Speaker 3: But it's the difference in a bunch of things.
Speaker 1: Where you find out where I think it's what twenty
Speaker 1: five percent of the cap space for Messian friends is
Speaker 1: toward like a handful of dudes towards the Gulf Stream galacticos,
Speaker 1: and then you've got to figure out how you're going
Speaker 1: to fill those absences, and then figure out defense and
Speaker 1: then best of three. So there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: in play here involving a top seed that if you
Speaker 1: can find a way to be clinical, then you things
Speaker 1: go your way.
Speaker 3: Am I making any sense this early in the morning.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look, I got coffee, so it's helping.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's all.
Speaker 2: It's all coming in loud and clear. I promise what
Speaker 2: you're saying is I'll translate for those that thank you
Speaker 2: couldn't you know, I got it. It was it was loud
Speaker 2: and clear to me.
Speaker 3: The stream of consciousness that's here.
Speaker 2: Translation is maybe don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Speaker 2: You should have a well rounded team. And it's not
Speaker 2: like it was a secret at this point in the
Speaker 2: season that Miami's defense sucked. They you can get in
Speaker 2: behind them, you can you can beat them on counters,
Speaker 2: you can do things to exploit them. We know, and
Speaker 2: we said it last week on here on this show,
Speaker 2: on my show Everything. You get into a game with
Speaker 2: Miami and at some point it's going to start becoming
Speaker 2: a shootout. You just have to score more goals than them,
Speaker 2: because they're going to score. It's gonna happen to go
Speaker 2: and you just got to attack their defense. And then
Speaker 2: for their defense, their defense was so bad.
Speaker 3: How bad was it that in.
Speaker 2: Like the seventy fifth minute, one guy decided to just
Speaker 2: stop playing the game. He just gave up and laid
Speaker 2: down in the middle of the pitch. And then the
Speaker 2: rest of them decided, oh, remember all the fundamentals that
Speaker 2: we learned from the time we're six years old to
Speaker 2: like play, to the whistle. It all went out the window.
Speaker 2: That's how bad that defense was. And Pedro Amador said, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, it was really funny if you if you
Speaker 2: go back and watch Pedro omedor he I'm on our
Speaker 2: watch along. I'm like, oh my god, they're giving him
Speaker 2: so much time to pick out a shot, Like how
Speaker 2: dumb are you? This guy has been a sniper and
Speaker 2: he nailed it again. He he he lines up this
Speaker 2: shot and because of all the craziness right, like nobody
Speaker 2: knows like is he gonna blow the whistle? Like because
Speaker 2: Ivery listens down, Pedro takes the takes the cross and
Speaker 2: then because of the confusion, he just kind of turns
Speaker 2: around and like walks off and it almost looks like
Speaker 2: he called it like Steph Curry or like you know,
Speaker 2: James Bond, and there's an explosion in the background. He's
Speaker 2: just walking away from the explosion, surely because nobody knew
Speaker 2: what was going on exactly. And then Slish so happy
Speaker 2: for that man, especially after what he went through.
Speaker 1: He had to go charging inside the eighteen and the
Speaker 1: trampoline that he got on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, beautiful that was.
Speaker 1: But I think that and I'll give Lanta United social
Speaker 1: media team credit for this. They started calling him Hawkeye,
Speaker 1: meaning amador. Yeah, and I think that that's going to
Speaker 1: stick YEP.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get him to use the meme of Hawkeye.
Speaker 2: I just need them to just pace his face over Hawkeye,
Speaker 2: you know, with the bow taken out, taking out the
Speaker 2: guys and the Avengers.
Speaker 3: But and that was you had playoff.
Speaker 1: You had playoff Jamal who almost had a hat trick
Speaker 1: in six minutes after the slam dunk that hit the
Speaker 1: post that he was second to in the fifteenth, and
Speaker 1: then the two goals in nineteenth and the twenty first,
Speaker 1: and then you had the proposed equalizer but he was
Speaker 1: offside and Ronald had played that particular element of it
Speaker 1: to keep it at two to one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was just I was. I was in
Speaker 3: the press tribunal.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you were probably in the same seat.
Speaker 1: I was in uh rod thirty one, seat fifteen, so
Speaker 1: I was. I was in like the front row of
Speaker 1: the two.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was in thirty two, seat seven, So I
Speaker 2: wasn't that far away from there.
Speaker 3: At least you had something to, you know, to rest
Speaker 3: your back on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I'm sitting there and it's like, Okay, how
Speaker 1: am I going to write this article? And basically I
Speaker 1: pull out I pulled out my tablet and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there and typing moments while I'm trying to figure out, Okay,
Speaker 1: how am I going to write this thing? And I'm
Speaker 1: writing on my tablet at the half yep, But it
Speaker 1: was it was a bunch of it was. It was
Speaker 1: a sold out house, but it was like almost like
Speaker 1: a Laker game or a Dodger game where everybody just
Speaker 1: kind of showed up right before kickoff and then the
Speaker 1: place finally filled in.
Speaker 2: That's what happened when I was down there. It was
Speaker 2: kind of weird, like at opening a before opening whistle,
Speaker 2: I was like, there are empty seats in this stadium
Speaker 2: and then this is messy and it's a playoff game,
Speaker 2: like what are we doing? And then they filled in
Speaker 2: pretty pretty shortly thereafter. But I was I was a
Speaker 2: little surprised.
Speaker 1: But you had a lot of folks who in the
Speaker 1: second half down to one as they well, first off,
Speaker 1: when you had the goal called off side that was
Speaker 1: the equalizer in the first half. Uh, they didn't want
Speaker 1: to hear it. But it's like you look at it
Speaker 1: and you go no, dude was like a full head
Speaker 1: and shoulders off side behind Ronald at the point of impact.
Speaker 1: Then in the second half, as things got more desperate
Speaker 1: and desperate and desperate, uh, when you had I guess
Speaker 1: how do we phrase this?
Speaker 3: The the aggressiveness of inter Miami on the field where
Speaker 3: they did I think whistle.
Speaker 1: I think it was a whistle optional second half at
Speaker 1: points when it when it came to calling foul, whistle optional, yes.
Speaker 1: And the one moment that sticks with me as they're
Speaker 1: chasing after that equalizer is the the late combination where
Speaker 1: I think it was Redondo cleared out Jay Fortune yep,
Speaker 1: literally just forearms, shiver to the back. Jay goes down
Speaker 1: and it's just kind of like nah. And then Messi,
Speaker 1: who never dives, yep. Basically it was a softy and
Speaker 1: he just kind of was like and then oh, whistle
Speaker 1: bang set piece. You know, yeah, you can get all
Speaker 1: the black helicopters out you want. When it came to
Speaker 1: that second half and Messi and friends chasing after that
Speaker 1: equalizer because.
Speaker 3: Nothing was called, and I mean nothing was called.
Speaker 2: I had people in comments and they were like, it's
Speaker 2: so ridiculous. The referees have been in everybody else's pocket
Speaker 2: all season, and I'm like, are you, like, are you trolling?
Speaker 2: Or like, are you actually believe that seriously?
Speaker 3: They were saying that on the watch along No.
Speaker 2: No, no, this was on This was after the fact,
Speaker 2: after it was all said and done, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know that that's even like kind
Speaker 2: of believable by anybody. I don't. I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: actually thinks that you're being serious right now. The fact
Speaker 2: that you can go and and do what you did
Speaker 2: to Brad and I and I heard I heard Jason
Speaker 2: freak out about it in the NonStop Access video. He I,
Speaker 2: I'm surprised he didn't come up swinging, and it looked
Speaker 2: like he wanted to. It looked like he wanted to.
Speaker 2: He came up, and it's it's not just one right,
Speaker 2: Like I understand what Messi's trying to do. He's trying
Speaker 2: to get the ball, he's trying to restart it quickly. Whatever.
Speaker 2: It's that's fine. The fact that Campana comes up and
Speaker 2: just absolutely levels him and it and and it was funny.
Speaker 2: I even said this on the watch a line. I
Speaker 2: was like, somebody's gotta take the clip of him like
Speaker 2: falling continue into the net into a gift because it
Speaker 2: was pretty funny, but Compana, how you get away with
Speaker 2: that with no card at all? Like that should tell
Speaker 2: you all you need to know about the way that this,
Speaker 2: this entire match was reffed whatever. And then Suarez has
Speaker 2: to come in and get his because Brad had had
Speaker 2: bowed up at him a couple of times already and
Speaker 2: they had been yapping off whatever. And I said that moment,
Speaker 2: I literally said it out lasted why. I said, Brad
Speaker 2: is not going to let that go. But I didn't
Speaker 2: realize that the whole team wasn't gonna lie. I was
Speaker 2: hoping the whole team wasn't gonna let it go. I
Speaker 2: was hoping that, you know that you're gonna see some
Speaker 2: retribution in some way, shape or form. And it came
Speaker 2: with the goal I think. I mean, go back to
Speaker 2: game one, right, And I mentioned it when I was there.
Speaker 2: I saw, you know, when Stean Gregerson went down MESSI
Speaker 2: ultimately ended up playing the ball out. Yeah, And it
Speaker 2: was cool, you know, it was It was a very
Speaker 2: sportsman like thing to do. At that point. You had
Speaker 2: two teams at Ad been playing a soccer game, but
Speaker 2: after what you did to Brad in the goal, you're
Speaker 2: not as an Atlanta player, You're not obligated to stop
Speaker 2: that play. You don't have to, And after what you
Speaker 2: just did to my goalkeeper, I'm not stopping. I don't care.
Speaker 2: And you ultimately ended up with basically a training ground
Speaker 2: set piece with one of the best left foots in
Speaker 2: the league. Sorry MESSI to a guy that does not
Speaker 2: like to lose, and he found like a different level
Speaker 2: of up to put the ball on the back of
Speaker 2: the net. And I almost wish that they had gloated
Speaker 2: a little bit more. I wish they had ran up
Speaker 2: to Suarez and got in his face and Compana and
Speaker 2: got in his face.
Speaker 1: Too much time on the clock. You can't do that
Speaker 1: knowing what the situation was. Yeah, if you're not gonna
Speaker 1: get a whistle, then you can't blow up in somebody's
Speaker 1: grill knowing full well that they're gonna want to push.
Speaker 1: And because there was that one scrum just outside the eighteen,
Speaker 1: I want to say where h Jay was a part
Speaker 1: of it, and it ended up it started out as
Speaker 1: a three on one. Then you you end up with
Speaker 1: a couple of Atlanta United players getting in there is
Speaker 1: like a three on three, then it goes to five
Speaker 1: on three. You get that big mess right out there,
Speaker 1: like twenty three or twenty four yards out as Miami
Speaker 1: was chasing after that equalizer too. And so you're seeing
Speaker 1: guys that are standing up for each other, and you
Speaker 1: know that you can't. You can't bow up because if
Speaker 1: the whistle, if you're in a whistle optional portion of
Speaker 1: the match, then you don't know when that whistle optional
Speaker 1: is going to become whistle activated. Yeah, and so you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't take that. You can't take that chance. And
Speaker 1: the way to do it at the end to sit
Speaker 1: there and point up and go scoreboard. You know that literally,
Speaker 1: that's what you end up doing. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 1: were you talking about this moment across by way to
Speaker 1: get to the back.
Speaker 2: Past head our score? It's the little guy.
Speaker 4: D Brad Kazan got thrown into his own goal. Yes
Speaker 4: he did. Now we'll believable after the goal the goal
Speaker 4: will count by messy. Well, there'll be a red card
Speaker 4: in that because Brad was trying to get the ball
Speaker 4: and he was thrown into his neck. There'd better be a.
Speaker 1: Red card because Brad Kazan got he rode into his goal.
Speaker 3: And if that happened the other way, Atlanta would be
Speaker 3: playing with Ted.
Speaker 4: He's going chest to chess with Lucas filings falling, now
Speaker 4: going four head to forehead into Brandt, who's hand. This
Speaker 4: will do nothing to negate the goal. But should there
Speaker 4: be a red card in that for vieland conduct. It's
Speaker 4: Messi's first goal the playoffs. It's a well placed header
Speaker 4: to equalize it too, but Brandt should be furious.
Speaker 1: Messi runs into Brad trying to get the ball.
Speaker 3: That's not it.
Speaker 1: It's the second one from Campana who's just sup pratkas
Speaker 1: Hanne into the buck of the goal and he's gonna
Speaker 1: get away with it because he's.
Speaker 4: Wearing a pink shirt.
Speaker 2: He won't even get a yellow card.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable that moment, that moment, that was it.
Speaker 2: And good for Jason for calling on like it is
Speaker 2: because it was absolute garbage referrering I mean pro and
Speaker 2: I get it, like that's what you're dealing with. I
Speaker 2: hate to be the guy that sits here and talks about,
Speaker 2: oh my god, referees in Miami like it. It's so frustrating,
Speaker 2: But I don't care whether it's intentional or it's like
Speaker 2: some kind of unconscious bias. I don't I don't care you.
Speaker 2: He's exactly right. I had that gone the other way,
Speaker 2: had it been any other team in this league, it
Speaker 2: would have been an instant red card, at least a
Speaker 2: yellow and a very stern talking to the fact that
Speaker 2: you do that and then you walk away blows my
Speaker 2: freaking mind. It just pathetic, pathetic.
Speaker 3: I figured it did more than blow your freaking mind.
Speaker 3: At the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, And I say, father, I know that
Speaker 1: you were trying to curb him.
Speaker 2: And and at the time on a live watch on
Speaker 2: people are staying we're on, They're like freaking out in
Speaker 2: the in the you know, best way possible. My family
Speaker 2: is literally just off camera watching the game as well,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, I need to I
Speaker 2: need to just keep it together, got to keep it together.
Speaker 2: So irritating.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: Pay back is a tasty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, payback is a you know what? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And uh and it was an and it was It
Speaker 1: didn't register to me until Mike said it in that
Speaker 1: particular moment that was Messi's first goal of the series. Yep,
Speaker 1: And that to me was something else that stood out
Speaker 1: because of the defensive game planning that you had from
Speaker 1: Atlanta United, where their clog in the middle, they're making
Speaker 1: sure that that you don't get those runs, you don't
Speaker 1: get the cutback cross, because when the cutback cross did happen,
Speaker 1: you end up with that second goal for Uh, for
Speaker 1: Messi and friends. And then there were other moments where
Speaker 1: they had the shots and they weren't clinical in their finishes.
Speaker 1: You had a couple of slam dunks off of cutback
Speaker 1: crosses that they didn't convert. But the fact that that
Speaker 1: was Messi's first goal in the series, and now.
Speaker 3: There's UH and this is this is rag.
Speaker 1: This is the rags that are talking and the the
Speaker 1: dirt sheets and things like that. Now there was there
Speaker 1: was even a thought floated yesterday in South Florida that
Speaker 1: you bring in Shavy to take over for time Tom Martino.
Speaker 1: Now since they crashed out in the first round of
Speaker 1: the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Why not just keep throwing the money you bring.
Speaker 3: You bring in a.
Speaker 1: You're bringing someone dismissed from Barca to take over for
Speaker 1: someone who coached at Barsa. Literally I looked at that
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, you've got to be kidding.
Speaker 2: We you know, we had the watch along and it
Speaker 2: was it was like a I don't know what you
Speaker 2: want to call it, a dual watch along where we
Speaker 2: were streaming with the battered Herons down in down in Miami, okay,
Speaker 2: And admittedly Danny was outnumbered because watch along Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: some of his cohorts were actually at the game, and
Speaker 2: which is why at the very end, when the final
Speaker 2: whistle finally blows, there are four of us surrounding him
Speaker 2: and he's just staring at a screen and kind of
Speaker 2: like that reverse twenty eight to three disbelief, you know,
Speaker 2: and we're just freaking out. But one of the topics
Speaker 2: of that entire watch along was like that, A, there
Speaker 2: are a lot of Miami fans who are over Tata
Speaker 2: Martine and they want him gone. And that was before
Speaker 2: this game, and so as in Atlanta, you know, fan,
Speaker 2: it's hard to kind of look at anybody hating on
Speaker 2: Tata unless he's involved with the Mexican national team and
Speaker 2: saying well, he's not a good coach. He had rough
Speaker 2: times with the national team. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: I don't know that you can put all of this
Speaker 2: on him, though, like he has no defense, he has
Speaker 2: a defense. He has a guy that decided to lay
Speaker 2: down in the middle of the play in a playoff game. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we can go like coaching, but like, that's just not
Speaker 2: being a good football player at that moment in time
Speaker 2: and doing something really dumb and then your team doing
Speaker 2: something really dumb. Those are fundamentals that are taught when
Speaker 2: you're way way younger than the moment you start playing
Speaker 2: for a professional soccer team like Miami. But yes, I
Speaker 2: could see them moving on from Tata and bringing in
Speaker 2: a guy like Javi. You know, they're gonna go get
Speaker 2: the biggest name possible. Again, that's in the playbook and
Speaker 2: that they don't have cap space to deal with, so
Speaker 2: they can spend as much money as they want to.
Speaker 1: Yes, then they can bring in whomever they wish when
Speaker 1: it comes to trying to do something like that. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: I don't know. You may have heard about this individual
Speaker 1: named Garth Loggerway and Garth had a had an appearance
Speaker 1: on ninety two nine The Game and it was on
Speaker 1: their midday show.
Speaker 3: And we.
Speaker 1: Ran through the quote that Garth had on ninety two
Speaker 1: nine The Game. So look for those that might have
Speaker 1: missed yesterday on a either A ninety two nine The
Speaker 1: Game or here on the morning show. Here's here was
Speaker 1: what Garth said in the conversation on ninety two nine
Speaker 1: The Game quote. You know, he was talking about Rob
Speaker 1: and so Robble's a part of the discussion, and that
Speaker 1: was something that he's been through in twenty sixteen, where
Speaker 1: it was the end of Sigi Schmidt and then you
Speaker 1: bring in Brian Schmetzer, and that that was the the
Speaker 1: Rob Valentino parallel quote. Look, we were not going to
Speaker 1: win anything with that group, with the personalities in that
Speaker 1: locker room and the mentality that we had, we were
Speaker 1: not going to win any titles. And we knew it,
Speaker 1: and so we wanted to maximize the resources that we
Speaker 1: could take out of that group. And that's when we
Speaker 1: moved on from some players dot dot dot. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, we got in we have a chance,
Speaker 1: and now we're taking advantage of it with a group
Speaker 1: that believes in itself and is much better put together.
Speaker 1: And that's a real credit to Rob Valentino and his
Speaker 1: staff and the players. Paragraph we had some folks who
Speaker 1: weren't committed to being in Atlanta long term. It's as
Speaker 1: simple as that, and they were looking for their next move,
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with that. That's part of pro sports.
Speaker 1: There's no emotion behind that. But they didn't want to
Speaker 1: be here long term. So we needed to get guys
Speaker 1: here who were committed.
Speaker 3: End quote that was.
Speaker 1: I mean, Garth has never been one really to pull
Speaker 1: punches when it comes to any kind of appearance or
Speaker 1: interview situation. And so you pulled back the curtain a
Speaker 1: little bit on this season after the in the opening
Speaker 1: round best of three, so we got we got to
Speaker 1: find out what's behind the curtain a little bit when
Speaker 1: it came to this twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 2: I think you know, you look at back at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the season, which was it seems like forever ago, right,
Speaker 2: It seems like it was so long ago. He's literally
Speaker 2: saying what I think a lot of fans saw in
Speaker 2: some ways with certain players. I mean, we all knew
Speaker 2: all Model was on his way out, like we've known
Speaker 2: that for a year and a half before he actually left.
Speaker 2: It was just a matter of which transfer window is
Speaker 2: it gonna be. Yeah, Caleb could have been any time,
Speaker 2: but I don't think there was any question that Caleb
Speaker 2: was committed to Atlanta United. I mean, he he grew
Speaker 2: up here, this is his team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when Chelsea comes at you with eight figures, what
Speaker 1: are you gonna sit there?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Like, well, no, right, I'm dude, I'm taking all that money.
Speaker 2: Let's go. But and then you have Yacamacus, Right, That's
Speaker 2: that's the big one. That's the one everybody kind of
Speaker 2: points back to. And you know, we we would see
Speaker 2: him and talk to him in the locker room, and
Speaker 2: he had his own way of doing things and his
Speaker 2: kind of own way about him. But I think when
Speaker 2: you start coupling in everything that happened around that time, right,
Speaker 2: Like we know he wanted more money, fair enough, I
Speaker 2: get it, but you couldn't stay healthy. And some players,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is what happened, but some
Speaker 2: players just cannot accept the fact that they don't have
Speaker 2: much of a leg to stand on, no pun intended. Yes,
Speaker 2: when you're injured often and you're still asking for money.
Speaker 2: And it's not even like at the time, every minute
Speaker 2: he spent on the pitch was as successful as it
Speaker 2: was the previous year. So you know, he starts looking
Speaker 2: for the extra money. Fair enough, get it, But then
Speaker 2: when he leaves. It takes what was it like a
Speaker 2: week or week and a half before he finally says
Speaker 2: buy to the Atlanta fans. And it's little things like
Speaker 2: that They could mean nothing, but then when you start
Speaker 2: putting it all into the picture, it's like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there was some some stuff going on
Speaker 2: there that nobody is ever going to really know, right,
Speaker 2: Like I've heard things, seeing things that you can't really
Speaker 2: go and say definitively like this is pointing to this
Speaker 2: particular player, but it kind of feels that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you end up with a little bit of A
Speaker 3: plus B equals see, and then you have a moment
Speaker 3: like this in his first press cost.
Speaker 5: Since showed some interest in me, I started following all
Speaker 5: the games. I was all the playoffs, quarterfinals, semi finals, finals,
Speaker 5: every single game, and I think the level here is higher.
Speaker 5: So I was really excited. I wanted to make it
Speaker 5: happened and showed me how much they want me, and
Speaker 5: that was a crucial factor for me to to make
Speaker 5: my decisions. For sure is a team that I think
Speaker 5: he is a level higher than MLS for sure, and
Speaker 5: is a team that is chasing records, a chase trophies
Speaker 5: and it's it's a winner. They tried to win always,
Speaker 5: every single trophy. So for me, I love to work
Speaker 5: for these teams, to play for these teams because the
Speaker 5: expectations are high. Your motivation has to be always there.
Speaker 5: And it's not okay to lose sometimes that's a bad
Speaker 5: thing in MLS that it's okay to lose some games,
Speaker 5: and I hate it.
Speaker 3: It's okay to lose.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 3: It's okay to lose in Major League Soccer.
Speaker 1: I knew there was a reason that I kept that
Speaker 1: in our in my Board morning show. I knew there
Speaker 1: was a reason that I kept that. And then what
Speaker 1: Garth said popped up yesterday on his segment of ninety
Speaker 1: two ninety game.
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah ha, it all came full circle, full circle.
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about it, we broke it down
Speaker 2: back then, but it definitely and it just goes back
Speaker 2: to what I said a minute ago, like you take
Speaker 2: all these individual things that have happened and that we've reported,
Speaker 2: all of us have reported, we've seen over the past,
Speaker 2: you know, year and a half before he left, and
Speaker 2: then take that, like all these are just a little bits
Speaker 2: and pieces that you can put together and say, like
Speaker 2: if they were in a bubble, it'd be like, all right, well,
Speaker 2: that was like a stupid thing to say. But then
Speaker 2: when you have the conclusion here with Garth Loggerway yesterday,
Speaker 2: and then you go back and look at the entire
Speaker 2: tenure of one particular player, there's really one. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's the only player that maybe Garth
Speaker 2: was talking about, but there was certainly, I think almost
Speaker 2: undeniably one player that he absolutely was talking about, and
Speaker 2: that was Yaka Maachas. And he had that kind of
Speaker 2: personality that he was going to affect the locker room
Speaker 2: for better or worse one way or the other. That's
Speaker 2: just how he was, and you hoped it was for
Speaker 2: the better. And I think at times it probably was
Speaker 2: for the better. I think before he left, especially you
Speaker 2: know last season, like there were times where I think
Speaker 2: he he was trying to elevate that locker room and
Speaker 2: build it in a way that only a guy like
Speaker 2: him could, A guy like Joseph Martinez could, you know,
Speaker 2: they have that kind of personality. But I get what
Speaker 2: Garth is saying, like you want people that are committed
Speaker 2: to be in Atlanta. You want and I know Joseph
Speaker 2: said it back then, and Joseph still harbors a lot
Speaker 2: of love for this city. But you want people who
Speaker 2: want to come to Atlanta and it be their Barcelona
Speaker 2: or their Madrid or their you know, Man City, whatever,
Speaker 2: because they believe in what this team is building. And thankfully,
Speaker 2: after this past weekend, Atlanta has another really really big highlight,
Speaker 2: real piece to add to any sales pitch that they
Speaker 2: want to throw out there. We're the ones that beat
Speaker 2: Messi in Miami, and look at the crowd that we
Speaker 2: had in the second game. Look at what it meant
Speaker 2: to everybody in the fans, Like, there's reasons to want
Speaker 2: to come to Atlanta, and you can go out and
Speaker 2: get talent that really really wants.
Speaker 3: To be here because ABC always be cruting, always be cruty.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: That's that's literally what what you can stare at here
Speaker 1: with with a Land United. It was an interesting it
Speaker 1: was an interesting paragraph. It's an interesting two paragraphs from
Speaker 1: growth loggerway. But yeah, to to Tom Russo's point, he says, uh.
Speaker 3: I'd love for somebody to ask him what gave him
Speaker 3: that idea that it's okay to lose here. Ridiculous that, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, it's okay to lose.
Speaker 2: H I mean, I think that's my my only piece
Speaker 2: of that entire press conference that he had, where it
Speaker 2: was if anybody at this club ever gave you the
Speaker 2: idea that it was okay to lose, they're they're wrong,
Speaker 2: first of all. But like I know that, you know,
Speaker 2: folks have their opinions about Gonzale Pinto. I covering him
Speaker 2: for for three years that he was here, I never
Speaker 2: once ever got the vibe that he thought it was
Speaker 2: okay to lose. Admittedly, sometimes the team played like it
Speaker 2: was okay to lose. They were so up and down,
Speaker 2: you know, that is what it felt like. But I mean,
Speaker 2: he would never be okay with losing, and I would
Speaker 2: be extremely shocked if you were to ask either Yacamaccas
Speaker 2: or Paneda today, did those words ever come out out
Speaker 2: of your mouth Paneda and they said yes, I would
Speaker 2: be shocked. I've just there's an implication there coming from something.
Speaker 2: I don't know what, but I think at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, Yacamacus is one of those guys that
Speaker 2: was going to search out what he thought was more money,
Speaker 2: and what he thought was was you know better playing circumstances.
Speaker 1: Well, And I mean I will, I will see the
Speaker 1: argument that sometimes when you're playing three matches in seven
Speaker 1: or eight days, the way that schedule compression is sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to manage your elevens and eighteens.
Speaker 3: And if you just.
Speaker 1: Want to get out of dock with a rotated lineup
Speaker 1: and get out of dodge with a point in a
Speaker 1: difficult situation, I get that. Yeah, sometimes sometimes you've just
Speaker 1: got to sit, you know, sit and take it because
Speaker 1: of your your situation when it comes to scheduling. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could see it from that viewpoint if that's what
Speaker 1: he was talking I don't think that's what he was
Speaker 1: talking about, but I can see that part of an argument,
Speaker 1: if that's where you want.
Speaker 2: To go with it, and that's the only thing that
Speaker 2: would make any kind of sense. And and but you
Speaker 2: you're you're in a position where, like you said, you
Speaker 2: have schedule congestion, you have you know, road trips, you know,
Speaker 2: and and if you look back at like what Atlanta
Speaker 2: had to do here in the playoffs or going into
Speaker 2: the playoffs, the travel is stupid and and it's all
Speaker 2: road games, right, Like, Yeah, at some point you just
Speaker 2: kind of have to say, all right, well we're gonna
Speaker 2: we're still gonna go try and win like that's never again.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, he didn't say it, yacamaugas, but whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're still going to go try and win, but you
Speaker 2: also have to be here. It does again pragmatic mountain
Speaker 2: do I knew? Yeah, yep, and just deal with it
Speaker 2: and and try to come out with something. But in
Speaker 2: no way, shape or form should that ever be translated
Speaker 2: as yeah, let's go not win. Yeah, if that was
Speaker 2: the idea, like save yourself the freaking Plaine trip and
Speaker 2: get some rest and and lose it by default three
Speaker 2: and I'll be done with it. Yeah, that's stupid.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll we'll send We'll send some young'un's up there.
Speaker 1: You can you can sit tight, and we'll just we'll
Speaker 1: send like some academies and you eighteens and sit there.
Speaker 1: It'll be a rotator. You want rotated roster, then that's fine,
Speaker 1: rotated roster. You stay at home and put your feet
Speaker 1: up and get healthy for the game on the weekend.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: It's well, oh uh.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tease and support your programming here, what what
Speaker 1: other fun stuff? Was it like when you grabbed a
Speaker 1: candy man to to talk about everything going on with
Speaker 1: Major League Soccer?
Speaker 3: What was What was the rest of that conversation.
Speaker 2: Like, so a lot of it again was just Atlanta Miami.
Speaker 2: He he kind of talked a lot about the storylines,
Speaker 2: similar to what I said a minute ago, but he
Speaker 2: talked about how, you know the clip is out there.
Speaker 2: I forget his words exactly, but you know there's something
Speaker 2: really really special building in Atlanta with kind of this
Speaker 2: underdog story and it was never supposed to be an
Speaker 2: underdog story, right, but Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Has a brother except for maybe Brad who can handle
Speaker 1: it with his hands exactly.
Speaker 2: But no, we talked a little bit about that, and
Speaker 2: we jumped over to the Jim Curtain News, you know,
Speaker 2: because he has a lot of history with Philly, and
Speaker 2: then of course the Red Bulls and and kind of
Speaker 2: the ins and outs of what's going on up there,
Speaker 2: and that was a really good conversation. Talked about the
Speaker 2: upcoming Hudson River derby and kind of what it could
Speaker 2: play out like, and then we touched on L A
Speaker 2: f C. And Seattle because it's that's intriguing to me,
Speaker 2: and I said this to him that that night. Out
Speaker 2: of the four that are coming up Galaxy, Minnesota to
Speaker 2: me is like the least intriguing understood.
Speaker 3: It's a six seat versus the two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then then you have the Atlanta factor of like,
Speaker 2: but Minnesota could could do what Atlanta just did and
Speaker 2: and really really upset a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Until Yeah, if you get a hot Dane Saint Clair
Speaker 1: then frustrate the uh you know, the killer PE's then
Speaker 1: you could have that moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So we we we talked about everything and Steve
Speaker 2: is great because you know, he he's called so many
Speaker 2: He's one of those very veteran Apple TV announcers who's
Speaker 2: called so many games and so many places too. He's not,
Speaker 2: you know, typically stuck necessarily to one team like a
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of them are.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was just a great chat. It was about
Speaker 2: an hour with him. I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: You know, he's always a good guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Canjy Man and Danny they they really are a good
Speaker 1: pairing that they have there at that Apple TV. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jim Curtin and we have the discussion because of of
Speaker 1: Rich Ransom, one of our A listers who's from Philly,
Speaker 1: and we get to circle back and have the discussion
Speaker 1: about Philadelphia a lot. And according to Jonathan tanne Wall,
Speaker 1: his conversations with Ernest Tanner, Tanner and Curtain they weren't
Speaker 1: seeing on the same page. And I think Jim Curtin
Speaker 1: was looking for a salary increase years those kinds of things,
Speaker 1: and Tanner was just kind of like, no, fam it's
Speaker 1: not going to go. And they had a long discussion about,
Speaker 1: you know, signing a contract extension that didn't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: And so at the end of the day, you take
Speaker 1: your emo librarian that wanders the pitch side there in
Speaker 1: Chester and it's just like, Okay, it's the end of
Speaker 1: an era. I will be intrigued to see where Philadelphia goes,
Speaker 1: but my gut tells me that what they're going to
Speaker 1: do is meeting their financial situation. I think they're probably
Speaker 1: just going to bring Marlon LeBlanc up from Philadelphia Union Too,
Speaker 1: who made it to the last game of the year
Speaker 1: in MLS Next Pro because he knows the guys, because
Speaker 1: he knows the system, he knows all of the young
Speaker 1: talent that's there built through the academy. He's familiar with
Speaker 1: the academy I'm guessing they just promote LeBlanc and turn
Speaker 1: him into the man in charge. That's my gut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that's kind of one of the topics
Speaker 2: we touched on. Of course, everybody at this point it's
Speaker 2: just like Atlanta. Everybody has their own ideas and opinions
Speaker 2: of who it should be or could be or whatever.
Speaker 2: And one of the points that I brought up and
Speaker 2: was talking to Candelosi about was you're kind of in
Speaker 2: a tough situation. Now made it easier if you know
Speaker 2: everything like Tannemwall was saying, happened with they just weren't
Speaker 2: seeing out of eye and it was kind of time
Speaker 2: to end it. But you know, Philly has been that
Speaker 2: team that has been so close. It's it's like the
Speaker 2: commercial with the dollar bill and the fishing pole, like
Speaker 2: you you're so close, almost got it, They just couldn't
Speaker 2: do it. And and so then you take a gamble
Speaker 2: like do you keep the guy that got you that
Speaker 2: close and hope that he can just find that extra
Speaker 2: year to get you over the top, especially when playing
Speaker 2: a team happen to have Gareth Bell doing Gareth Bell things,
Speaker 2: you know, or do you say, all right, we've given
Speaker 2: you enough time, like, we just need something new, We
Speaker 2: need a new voice, kind of like what Atlanta said
Speaker 2: they were looking for, and it's it is very much
Speaker 2: an easier thing to do to bring up a guy
Speaker 2: that has been at least in the system for some
Speaker 2: amount of time, even if it's temporary, and that's what
Speaker 2: they I think that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: According to Tom says that rich Ransom said that he
Speaker 1: believed their style was directed from above. Curtains capable of
Speaker 1: playing differently, but when you're in that four four two diamond,
Speaker 1: then you have dudes that do certain things, you know,
Speaker 1: Then that's where everything is oriented.
Speaker 3: All right, Time to cut the promo. Did I see
Speaker 3: that the mug was Mandalorian? Today?
Speaker 2: It is indeed Mandalorian. Okay, indeed, I was actually looking
Speaker 2: at Kickoff Coffee's website because I'm like, I'm on here
Speaker 2: every Wednesday. Yeah, at some point I need to start
Speaker 2: putting y'all's coffee in my I was just thinking about it.
Speaker 2: I was like, Kyley, you it has been like what
Speaker 2: six months an now or so? Yeah, you've been I've
Speaker 2: had it before.
Speaker 1: It's very good this entire season, and you come leaning
Speaker 1: into the promo. It's like, oh yeah, it's like I'm
Speaker 1: hearing Nelson talking about this thing.
Speaker 2: When y'all first started the promo with it back what
Speaker 2: was it, I think a couple of years ago at
Speaker 2: this point. Now I got a bag and it's really good.
Speaker 2: Genuinely is really good coffee. If anybody has hasn't had
Speaker 2: it yet, like go, gets on me. It really is
Speaker 2: great coffee. As somebody that drinks coffee every day, I
Speaker 2: can tell you it's a very good coffee.
Speaker 1: I'll take your word for it as someone who drinks
Speaker 1: coffee never. As always, my friend, go and save the
Speaker 1: rest of your voice. We actually have a weekend where
Speaker 1: we don't have any kind of MLS playoffs whatsoever. Are
Speaker 1: you going to Central Florida?
Speaker 3: I will be.
Speaker 2: As long as I get credentialed, I will be making
Speaker 2: the trip. So I will be back down in Orlando
Speaker 2: for the second time this year. And I did not
Speaker 2: think it was going to happen. So that's my plan.
Speaker 3: That's the plan. As always, my friend.
Speaker 1: Great to see you to lead things off here and
Speaker 1: our number one on wall passing and Wednesdays, and we'll
Speaker 1: catch up with you soon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it, y'all come see us tonight.
Speaker 1: See seven o'clock there, see midweek you have the MLS Monday,
Speaker 1: and then you have Stars and Spikes on the midweek.
Speaker 3: See we're day side, their night side, they're night outs.
Speaker 2: Maybe you get the best of both worlds.
Speaker 3: Tommy will have maybe recovered from his hangover by now.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I know it's a stretch. And does does Sid's better
Speaker 1: half know what she's getting into?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, okay, just allegedly allegedly. Okay, so I.
Speaker 1: Know because Sid did a thing, and we we always
Speaker 1: congratulate when you do a thing, absolutely.
Speaker 2: And congratulations to the good old Sydney Hunt.
Speaker 1: Yes, and adding to the S and S family with
Speaker 1: doing a thing and showing shiny rocks and photos.
Speaker 3: A right good. We'll see you whenever you want to crash.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
Speaker 3: See, I'll all right, there's Tyler, and Tyler's gonna go
Speaker 3: drink his coffee.