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And again, thank you so much for your support. Alrighty, so,

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the New York Post piece by Charles Gasparino headlined Trump's

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DOJ found evidence Democrats are skewing crime stats ahead of

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the midterm elections. No, really, nobody would do something like

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that to try to paint a rosier picture in order

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to not suffer the consequences of their policies. According to

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the Peace, officials in President Trump's Justice Department have been

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scrutinizing crime data over the last few months, and they

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have found evidence that Democrat politicians have been skewing crime

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stats ahead of the midterms. Illinois Democrat Governor JB. Pritzker,

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a vocal opponent of Trump's use of federal troops for

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both immigration enforcement and fighting big blue city crime has

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lately touted double digit declines in Chicago crime rates, where

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shootings and homicides on our highways are down sixty seventy

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eighty percent depending on where you look. Which that's a

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quote from Governor Pritzker shootings and homicides on our highways,

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which is a very limited data set. Nor like I'm

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going to take all the homicides in Chicago and I'm

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gonna throw out any of the homicides that occurred not

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on a highway, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand who keeps track of this.

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Speaker 1: Like, I've been following crime data for twenty plus years

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and I have never seen it broken down into a category.

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Speaker 2: Of homicides on highways.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, yes, car crashes like fatalities on highways.

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Speaker 2: Yes, homicides on highways.

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Speaker 1: No, I guess it's like so like, if it's a

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drive by shooting and it's on the highway, then that

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would count. But if it's a drive by shooting on

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like a suburban residential street or something, or maybe in

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the downtown Chicago area not a highway, so that would

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not be counted. Is that the deal? I don't know.

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It's just a really bizarre thing to say. The number

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of felonies in Chicago, not to mention in New York,

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Los Angeles as well as Portland, is declining. Right, you

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keep hearing this, it's all declining. All these numbers are

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dropping well. According to the sources at the DOJ, the

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reason why the numbers are declining is because prosecutors are

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knocking down felonies to something less severe for political reasons.

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Speaker 2: No really.

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Speaker 1: Famous among them is Alvin Bragg, Manhattan District Attorney, who

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has continued to allow violent defenders to plead to misdemeanors

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instead of felonies, even after committing robberies or violent assaults.

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This is what you call juicing the stats. I have

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heard people call it juking the stats as well, but

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I don't I don't know which one is correct. I

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prefer juicing the stats, right, because you take the stat

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and then you just like beat it to a bloody pulp, right,

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wheeze it, you drain it, rather than juking, because like

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juking seems like like a football move, like in order

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to get around somebody, like you juke them, you know,

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which doesn't I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I guess either could apply. I'm down a rabbit. Hole. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: One Trump DOJ source pointed to the recent case of

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David Mazariegos, a sword wielding maniac who was arrested last

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week for the allegedly unprovoked killing of a straphanger that's

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what they call subway riders straphangers.

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Speaker 2: A man named Nicola Tanzi.

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Speaker 1: This maniac attacked this guy, stomping him on the head

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repeatedly outside of a Brooklyn subway station. He killed him,

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beat him to death, attacked him with the sword. Mazariegos,

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the maniac, has a long criminal record, and yet this

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past July, just before his latest ee want to act,

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a New York City judge lowered his bail in an

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assault case because prosecutors did not charge him with a felony,

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instead settling for a misdemeanor.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 1: So, if you knock the charges down from the violent crimes,

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now it's no longer a violent crime. See and it

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shows up in the stat as a misdemeanor, and it's

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not violent anymore. It's only the really serious violent crimes

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that we count. And this guy that murdered the straphanger

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is not an outlier.

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Speaker 2: He is the norm. When the DOJ.

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Speaker 1: Stats are released, they expect this to be in the

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coming weeks. They should be a wake up call for

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the Democrat Party, says Charles Gasparino at The New York Post.

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That's because these big city economies will continue to sour

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as more tax paying residents leave for places that provide safety.

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Of course, the Democrat leadership must also find the necessary

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guts to push back against the policies and policing edicts

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of far leftists like aoc Zoron Mamdani who are ascendant

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in the party. DOJ sources believe Governor Pritzker's recent talking

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points are part of a concerted effort by the National

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Democrats to hide the various forms of blight created by

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their support for police defunding measures, to appease the social

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justice types who believe law enforcement is racist. And finally,

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at the very end of this piece, again at the

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New York Post, Fox Business reporter Tuta lukaj Okay. Anyway,

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this reporter uncovered proof that even the good crime stats

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are actually horrible crunching other data on the NYPD website

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for reported acts of murder, rape, robbery, felony, assault, burglary,

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grand larceny. If you look at the number of reported acts.

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Those numbers rose every year from twenty twenty through twenty

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twenty three. Then the number dropped a bit in twenty

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twenty four, even with the decline from last year. We

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don't have obviously twenty twenty five stats yet, but I mean,

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and the key here is that they were looking at

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the number of reports rather than the disposition of the

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case through the charges.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Knocking down from a felony to a misdemeanor gives you

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this fake idea of what the stat is. But if

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you look at the number of reports, those numbers have

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they skyrocketed. They dropped off in twenty twenty four a

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little bit, yes, but it's still higher than all the

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way back to the year twenty thirteen. That was the

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last year Mayor Mike Bloomberg was mayor, and that marked

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the beginning of the end of Rudy Giuliani's crime crackdown.

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Twenty thirteen. The number so like, that's how high crime

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has gotten in New York City, for example, which brings

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don't know if he's from Ashville actually, because like very

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few people are actually from Ashville, but he lives out

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there and he sort of exploded onto the Twitter verse

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scene during Hurricane Helene a year ago.

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Speaker 2: His name is Matt van Swoll, real name, and.

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Speaker 1: He would do a lot of videography and stuff of

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like the damage. And then he became very disillusioned with

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the local government response. The governor at the time, my

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good friend Ray Cooper, and so he had this sort

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of walk way moment from the Democrat party. He'd always

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considered himself to be a Democrat and he's became very disillusioned.

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And he's got a massive following now on Twitter, formerly

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known as x.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He's got three hundred and sixty five thousand followers now, Okay,

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And over the last few weeks, I want to say,

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he has now turned his attention to the outrageousness of

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what I call our catch and release court system here

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in Charlotte. And it's not just in Charlotte, it's all

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over the place. But we keep proving that, like we

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really are committed to this bit, right. And so he's

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got another case. And so he just he posted some

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of these cases and he just puts them out there,

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and he's got this one.

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Speaker 2: I think this was today, yeah, today, this morning.

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Speaker 1: Herbert Jordan, a Charlotte man who has been arrested fifty

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previous times. That's five oh fifty times, including for allegedly

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assaulting a police officer as well as assaulting women. And

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he has just been arrested again for assaulting a woman

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while out on bond, and he gets arrested again for

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another assault on a female and he was given five

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thousand dollars bond. It's just nuts. Why is this happening?

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How does this keep happening? Well, if you go to

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the Mecklenburg County website mechanc dot gov. In fact, if

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you go to CJS dot mechnc dot gov, CJS criminal

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Justice and Safety, I believe is what the CJS stands for.

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And they've got a nice little write up there about

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the Safety and Justice Challenge. In twenty twenty, this is

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from the county's own website. Okay, In twenty twenty, Mecklenberg

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County was awarded its second grant in the amount of

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one million dollars from the MacArthur Foundation. Now, if that

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name rings a bell, it's because they fund a lot

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of NPR programming and such. It's part of the Safety

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and Justice Challenge that the MacArthur Foundation was part of

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and still is as I understand it, and the money

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is to be used was to be used to continue

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supporting the county's efforts to develop and implement strategies capable

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of positively impacting the main drivers of the local jail population.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get to the root cause.

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, okay, they got Mecklenberg got its second grant.

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In twenty twenty two, the county was awarded another three

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hundred and fifty thousand dollars to ensure recent reforms were sustainable. Okay,

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so they put the reforms in place at the height

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of the fiery but mostly peaceful rioting. They started with this,

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you know, reform agenda. The MacArthur Foundations throwing all this

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money around. Mecklenburg picks up a bunch of grants, probably

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somewhere in the neighborhood of oh here. It is total

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investment in Mecklinberg County so far three point three million dollars. Well,

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what is the MacArthur Foundation buying?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: You don't just hand out this money for no reason.

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To continue safely reducing the jail population. That's the goal.

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To safely reduce the jail population. The county plans to

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implement strategies. Now, there's a lot of pr corporate gobblygook

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in here, okay, but these strategies aimed at addressing system

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and efficiencies, enhancing existing services, providing non jail alternatives for defendants,

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and increasing community engagement in local justice system reform. This

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will include enhancing services provided to defendants pre trial, implementing

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more meaningful first appearance hearings, and improving case processing, and

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partnering with residents to identify and implement community led programs

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and policy interventions. They touted the fact that between twenty

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fourteen and twenty seventeen, Mecklenberg County reduced its jail population

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by eleven percent, but they want that number to be higher.

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They want a further reduction of another seventeen percent.

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Speaker 2: That's the point.

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Speaker 1: That's what MacArthur is funding, a reduction in the number

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of people in the county jail. Does it start making

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sense now as to why people keep getting released with

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Speaker 2: So there is a.

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Speaker 1: Newsletter that has put out uh Liberty Sentinel dot org.

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They do an INTEL bulletin. This thing was published, This

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particular bulletin was published in twenty twenty one by the

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Law Enforcement Intelligence Brief. It is produced by the Law

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Enforcement Charitable Foundation and is delivered to every sheriff and

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police chief in America. Okay, so that's the INTEL bulletin.

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It's like six pages and it's written up at Liberty

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Sentinel dot org and it goes over what the MacArthur

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Foundation is doing. This is from four years ago, what

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the MacArthur Foundation is doing at the local government level.

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I just gave you the numbers. Three point three million

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dollars that's been given to Mecklenburg County Court System and

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they've they've got a whold write up on their website.

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They're proud of this, they're proud.

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Speaker 2: Of the work, doing the work right with the.

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Speaker 1: Goal to clear out the jails. That's the goal. They

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want a reduction in the jail population. And the sort

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of baseline reduction that the MacArthur Foundation proposes is twenty

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five percent. And so while Mecklenberg was clearing out the

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jail population. Prior to twenty seventeen, got jail jail numbers

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down eleven percent. They want it now reduced another seventeen

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percent on top of that, and.

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Speaker 2: How do you do that?

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Speaker 1: Mecklenberg County's Criminal Justice Services and Criminal Justice Advisory Group

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partnered with New York State Psychiatric Institute to create a

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comprehensive implicit bias training for criminal justice professionals, and that

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could be anybody. This training examines how unconscious or implicit

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biases can affect an individual's thought processes and decision making

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in both subtle and overt ways. What's this about the

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disproportionality and disparities at the decision points of arrest, filing charges,

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and booking into jail. In other words, there is an

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overrepresentation of blacks and Hispanics in the jail, and so

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they have a higher number of a proportion as a

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proportion of the jail population than you see in the

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general population. And so therefore that disparity is proof of

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systemic racism. Remember this is from like five years ago.

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This was what the Left was doing in everything. All

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sorts of disparities that you see in outcomes is proof

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of racism. That was their baseline argument. So the MacArthur

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Foundation is going around the country funding these programs, funding

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these trainings and such, and again from this bulletin, dubious

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racial quotas are being used to determine who goes to

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jail and who stays free, and the decisions making it

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possible are happening behind closed doors, funded by big bucks

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from an unaccountable left wing organization in Chicago, with leaders

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tied to radical movements, including one key official tied to

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a movement aimed openly at abolishing police across America. One

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of the key forces behind this disturbing trend is the

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MacArthur Foundation, a tax exempt behemoth with some seven billion

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dollars that is showering huge grants on police departments and

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law enforcement agencies nationwide. Well and as I just read,

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also our court system. MacArthur is buying drastic policy changes

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outside of the democratic process and the reach of voters.

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No kings, anybody, what does democracy look like? Show me

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what democracy looks like? Oh you street chanters yesterday, where

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are you on this? You're okay with all of this?

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You're okay with some unnamed shadowy foundation pumping millions of

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dollars to change policies behind the scenes. They refuse records requests.

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They say, we don't have to give you information. Foyas

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don't matter. Freedom of Information Act requests don't matter to

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us because we're we're a private entity. With the nearly

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two hundred and fifty million dollars spent so far on

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the Safety and Justice Challenge, the point is to reduce

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the number of criminals behind bars in communities across America.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's what this is.

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Speaker 1: So like, I come across this, this initiative, the Safety

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and Justice Challenge, and I do a quick search in

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Mecklenburg and sure enough, there it is three point three

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million dollars that's come into Mecklenburg County from the MacArthur Foundation.

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This is what they're buying. They're buying decarceration. And so

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when we see these stories somebody with fifty arrests, violent

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rap sheet arrests, how is this person getting released over

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and over and over and over again. Well, that would

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be the Safety and Justice Challenge, the implicit bias. See,

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it's not that this person is a danger or a

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threat to his fellow citizens. No, no, no, it's that

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the system is racist against him. That's why he keeps

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beaten up on women. Don't you say it's racism. According

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to the bulletin, this starts from the false assumption, a

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false assumption that is ubiquitous in the MacArthur Foundation's work,

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even beyond its criminal justice programs. This false assumption that

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the reason that people from quote, communities of color are

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arrested and jailed more often is because of racism in

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police and government. But countless studies and reports have pointed

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out the flaw in this thinking, behind the idea that

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alleged systemic racism is responsible for this issue.

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Speaker 2: It is not. It's not like you may have a

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better case to.

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Speaker 1: Make on things like you know, being pulled over more often,

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that kind of stuff, like you know, ticketing and that

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sort of thing, But when it comes to violent offenses,

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like the data is pretty clear here. You got a

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dead body, Like that's a stat like, there's no way,

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there's no way to dress that up as some form

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of systemic racism, you know, changing policy and systems with

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big money rather than through the legislative process and public

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debate is what they are doing. Launched more than five

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years ago, the scheme has more than fifty jurisdictions in

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more than thirty states involved. So when I was a kid,

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my grandpa died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, my

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mom and my dad took care of him as he

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got worse. Forty years ago, there were no treatments and

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not much support for caregivers and family. But things are

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different today because of the work of so many people,

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including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great

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organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a

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supporter for twenty five years. This cause means a lot

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to me. I participate in the annual Walk to end

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Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year,

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and it's called once again Pete's Pack. You can sign

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up and you can join the team and walk with us.

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alz dot org slash walk and then you can search

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at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the

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description of this podcast. Also, I'll be am seeing the

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bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. You can

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go to alz dot org slash walk for all the

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Can you help us get there? Will you walk with me?

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For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments.

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This is why we walk. From the text line driven

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by liberty Buick GMC from the grumpy Major, He says,

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this MacArthur Foundation program is appropriately named. It is one

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hundred percent a challenge to safety and justice. True, it's

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called the Safety plus Justice Challenge.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: It is challenging these things. So they've pumped two hundred

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and fifty million dollars on this safety and Justice challenge

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across the country. Three point three million of it at

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least has come into Mecklenburg County's court system, and they

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are changing policy and systems with this money rather than

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going through a legislative process or public debate. Launched more

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than five years ago, they've got fifty jurisdictions in thirty

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states involved.

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Speaker 2: Already. Over on its Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Page, MacArthur Program Operatives and its partners have defended their

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view that reducing jail populations would not cause increases in crime.

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They say, quote narratives connecting these reforms to rising crime

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rates are misleading and damaging. So again, this goes back

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six years, five six years. That's the window where all

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of this stuff ramped up, right COVID, yes, twenty twenty,

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but more importantly, the fiery but sometimes peaceful rioting that.

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Speaker 2: Occurred after George Floyd's death.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's when the left had a fever for this

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kind of reform. Everybody you know literally literally took a

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knee in the face of these demands, and everybody thought,

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this is why Roy Cooper, my good friend ray, former

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governor of North Carolina, now running for US Senate and

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trying to run away from his Criminal Justice Equity task

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Force that he put together, with the co chairs of

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that task force being the current governor, but then Attorney

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General Josh Stein and Supreme Court Justice Anita Earls, and

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their blueprint that they put together on this task force

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is right in line with the safety and Justice Challenge

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program goals. It's all the same philosophy, the quote reform philosophy,

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and so five years ago they're like, no, no, no, no,

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these reforms they got nothing to do with increases in crime, No, no,

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nothing at all related. We just want to make sure

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that we don't have people in jails. The Criminal Justice

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Reform Schemes goal, it continues, is to reduce over incarceration

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by changing the way America thinks about and uses jails.

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Local judges and law enforcement officials all signed off. Among

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the strings attached to the grants were demands that, under

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the guise of racial justice and equity, more and more

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criminals be released from detention and less people be placed there.

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Despite the ongoing surgeon crime. Local authorities agreed to obey

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the foundation's quotas by ensuring almost twenty five percent less

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people in local jails.

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Speaker 2: It's a quota system.

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Speaker 1: MacArthur has been instrumental in peddling the narrative that American

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police are racist and that law enforcement perpetuates white supremacy.

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The Center for American Progress led a Mayer Plan, for instance,

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called for rejecting outdated tough on crime approaches, claiming that

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being tough on crime was racist because it allegedly has

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a disproportionate effect on black and Latino communities. The MacArthur

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Foundation also showered money on the left wing Brennan Center

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for Justice so it could produce a report. That report

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headlined reducing racial and ethnic Disparities in Jails Recommendations for

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local practice. Right, this is the scaffolding upon which all

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of these reforms, this catch and release philosophy is built.

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Among other debunked left wing talking points taking aim at police,

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the report argued that police supposedly suffer from implicit racial bias. Right.

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That's what the report showed, and that's what the Social

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Injustice Challenge gives Mecklenburg County the training implicit bias training. Ironically,

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despite the MacArthur Foundation's condescending attitudes towards both police and minorities,

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polls show Black and Latino Americans overwhelmingly want the same

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amount or even more police in their communities, not less. Indeed,

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black and Latino Americans, like all Americans, also want criminals

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taken off the streets, rather than allowing them to roam free,

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terrorizing their families, their businesses, and their neighborhoods. Because the

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issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution.

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This is how you destabilize a society, and that's really

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the goal.

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Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening.

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